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NBA Show | October 29, 2025 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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Speaker 1: Fall systems don't clear the lift. Welcome back everyone to
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Speaker 1: the Wednesday edition of the NBA Show. Got a nice
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Speaker 1: seven game slate on tap with the seven pm to
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Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern slide. But before we go game by game,
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Speaker 1: before I go to the chat, gotta bring in my
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Speaker 1: guy Matt. After a huge night last night, getting second
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Speaker 1: place in the three K tournament last night, how are
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Speaker 1: you feeling if you're coming up a big win and
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Speaker 1: really just a huge month over the last couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks or so, You've just been crushing it in multiple
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Speaker 1: different sports.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it, man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, coming off a nice night last night, changed my
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Speaker 3: core last minute for anyone who was in the discord,
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Speaker 3: I posted in there, and I changed it on the site.
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Speaker 3: Not like my core did like was special at all,
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Speaker 3: but the pieces.
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Speaker 2: Around it were really good and my cor did enough.
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Speaker 3: So with that last game busting and honestly, I was
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Speaker 3: asleep because I knew I didn't have any pieces and
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Speaker 3: was just hoping to wake up to a game that
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Speaker 3: honestly turned out what it did. I saw Harden, I
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Speaker 3: saw this today, had twenty eight Fantasy points at half
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Speaker 3: and finished with twenty nine. Something crazy like that. Only
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Speaker 3: one assist in the game, so yeah, those guys were
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Speaker 3: a little bit lower on than I thought, but still
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Speaker 3: had ownership and any other game scenario, I think I
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Speaker 3: get passed the bunch, so feel lucky. But that's you know,
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Speaker 3: them's the breaks in dfs. You got to take them
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Speaker 3: when you get them.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, good night. Excited to get back.
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Speaker 3: At it tonight with on Wednesday slate usually a bunch
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Speaker 3: of games, no different tonight. We don't have the last
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Speaker 3: three games, but that makes for an exciting night slate,
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Speaker 3: which I know you're gonna be in on.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, potentially. We'll see how how the main slat's
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Speaker 1: going first. But yes, I like that they got rid
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Speaker 1: of those last three games in the night. I think
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Speaker 1: it's three games of the night, so, like you said,
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Speaker 1: but I don't I really don't understand why they had
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Speaker 1: that was so annoying last Yeah, eight pm game two
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Speaker 1: for no apparent reason at all. It's just kind of
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Speaker 1: a weird, weird schedule for them. Yeah, say, what's up
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Speaker 1: with some people in chat? Max? What's up? Man? Jason
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Speaker 1: got winslotting here, Nate's back again. I guess the NHL
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Speaker 1: is taking a little night off I got a guy,
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Speaker 1: Nate d big Ed what's up? Ed Evan, how's it going?
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Speaker 4: Man?
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Speaker 1: Juice Para Bay as always, Ranger had a big night
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Speaker 1: in NFL. I believe he's had a big NFL and
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Speaker 1: NBA last week or so. So congrats to you men.
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Speaker 1: Kid Lyden's in here, Scuoder McGavin extractz sub squids Do
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Speaker 1: we know what that means? But with sub squid? Aaron Asthmus,
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Speaker 1: Ricky Rose, what's going on? Lutra dead? Ny Steel, Avery's Ebala?
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Speaker 2: All right?
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Speaker 1: Before we go game by game, I want to get
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Speaker 1: you your opinion on the slate as a whole. Get
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Speaker 1: a kind of interesting one really, just Yokich up top
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Speaker 1: as a spend up option, nobody. We don't have the SGAs,
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Speaker 1: the Giannis Is, the Wemby's on the slate. So what
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Speaker 1: are you thinking from a build perspective on tonight's slate.
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Speaker 3: It's a little bit weird at first glance, because as
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Speaker 3: you mentioned, we don't have like a ton of spend
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Speaker 3: up options. We do have Jokic, but like that's it.
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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis is slightly over ten k, but after that
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Speaker 3: we don't have anyone. There is a good amount of value,
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Speaker 3: and there's a loaded mid tier, so not exactly sure
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Speaker 3: like what the optimal roster construction to build is yet
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Speaker 3: I think kind of I'll have a clear approach when
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Speaker 3: we get done talking. But yeah, like just in starting
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Speaker 3: to write this slate plan and stuff, spend up options
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Speaker 3: are at a premium, Yolkic being like really the only
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Speaker 3: elite send up option you want. There is a ton
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Speaker 3: of value though, and there's a bunch of really good
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Speaker 3: plays in the mid tier. So excited to hear what
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Speaker 3: you have to say. What do you think about this late?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think that there could be some value
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Speaker 1: that's going to open up and potentially even in one
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Speaker 1: of these first two games. But we obviously have the
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Speaker 1: indie value, so I think that it does make Jokic
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Speaker 1: kind of a priority spend. But like you said, the
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Speaker 1: mid tier is pretty solid tonight. And I was just
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Speaker 1: kind of looking through some of the perfect lineups on
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Speaker 1: line Star, which is a pretty cool thing that they have,
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Speaker 1: and I was kind of surprised to see last couple
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Speaker 1: of slates. There have been some highly correlated teams that
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Speaker 1: are winning these big tournaments we had, you know, to
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Speaker 1: Night to Go. I believe was the the Suns and
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Speaker 1: the Jazz game where you needed like five or six pieces,
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Speaker 1: and then last night was the Wizards and the Sixers.
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Speaker 1: So I think that I don't want to go too
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Speaker 1: overboard with it, but I could see having a little
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Speaker 1: bit more correlation within my lineup tonight, within the mid tier,
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Speaker 1: because it does look pretty strong. Yeah, will definitely get
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Speaker 1: a better feel for it as we get closer a lot,
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Speaker 1: because this game, the first game of the night, does
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Speaker 1: have some value that could potentially open up some things. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm on Pacific time over here in sunny California where
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Speaker 1: it's I guess Indian summer is going on. It's probably
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Speaker 1: like eighty two degrees right now. It's pretty warm.
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Speaker 3: But I'm also a line star guy, so nice to
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Speaker 3: hear that you're on that as well. I've been using
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Speaker 3: them forever. I don't like use their projection as like.
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Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's great to look for the perfect lineup stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's jump right into this first game.
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Speaker 1: Here we have the Orlando and heading into Detroit. I
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Speaker 1: think this game does have some decent fantasy appeal right
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Speaker 1: aft the bat. I think that these are two pretty
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Speaker 1: underperforming teams in general, but defenses mainly. These have been
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Speaker 1: the strong points of these teams last couple of seasons.
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Speaker 1: The defense has been really good for both of them.
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Speaker 1: And then the Magic, you know, kind of having a
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Speaker 1: revamped offense with you know, adding Desmond Band and trying
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Speaker 1: to figure that out. They've been playing a lot faster
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Speaker 1: than there we've been accustomed to see them with Poulo
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Speaker 1: and Franz, which have been good to see. Then Detroit,
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Speaker 1: I mean, Kid's gone up to really really slow star,
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Speaker 1: but I think that could be a bounce back spot here.
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Speaker 1: We do have questionable tags on the Piston side which
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Speaker 1: could change some things with Sar Thompson question both in illness,
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Speaker 1: Kris Lavert and then Marcus Sasser all questionable. I would
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Speaker 1: think that if a Sar misses, then Ron Hollowin's going
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Speaker 1: to slide into the starting lineup, but they could do
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Speaker 1: something weird. I think that would probably make the most sense,
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Speaker 1: but we'll have to see as we get more information
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Speaker 1: leading up the tip. What do you sing in this game?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I agree with you. Like from a thirty thousand.
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Speaker 3: Foot view, I think this game is really appealing from
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Speaker 3: a DFAs perspective, that said, this isn't the only game appealing,
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Speaker 3: so when you look at some of the other games
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Speaker 3: that are appealing, I don't think this is like the
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Speaker 3: top game on this slate, but I do think there's
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Speaker 3: some pieces certainly worth mentioning that are wildly in play
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Speaker 3: in all fourmats. I think Orlando looks better than Detroit
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Speaker 3: just from the onset. Paolo and Franz still very affordable
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Speaker 3: price tags. You know, Polo has been kind of the
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Speaker 3: band in my existence on every slate he's been on
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Speaker 3: so far. I haven't played him in his Monster ones
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Speaker 3: I have and his disappointing games. He's got upside at
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Speaker 3: this price tag though, and the same thing for Franz
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Speaker 3: and one thousand dollars cheaper. I think this is probably
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Speaker 3: where these guys should be priced. So you're not getting
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Speaker 3: like massive deals on either of them, but they just
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Speaker 3: go along in that sentiment that the mid tier on
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Speaker 3: this slate is really good.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: Outside of that, I think you can play Bane, but
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Speaker 3: you know, I think Franz and Powelllo would be the priorities.
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Speaker 3: And then I'm with you with Kid like he has
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Speaker 3: been really disappointing so far to start the year, averaging
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Speaker 3: slightly under forty Fantasy points per game. You're talking about
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Speaker 3: like a ten K player. You just can't have that.
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Speaker 3: But his upside didn't just vanish and then air, so
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Speaker 3: like it's there somewhere. This is a good spot. I
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Speaker 3: could see this game being competitive, high scoring, and at
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Speaker 3: very low ownership. I am interested in a bounce back
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Speaker 3: from kid. I'm well aware that how he's playing, you know,
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Speaker 3: he just hasn't gotten there, and that's well within the
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Speaker 3: realm of possibilities here, But so is the upside he's
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Speaker 3: not getting ownership. I like Caden tournaments tonight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree with you there. I would say
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Speaker 1: on the magic side, I kind of have the most
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Speaker 1: interest in Desmond Baine here, just the way that the
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Speaker 1: Pistons normally played defense. They've been a team that takes
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Speaker 1: away a ton at the rim, and I just think
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Speaker 1: that it's a pretty good price site for Bain. His
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Speaker 1: usage has held up, you know, considering he's competing with
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Speaker 1: Paulo and Franz. But yeah, I agree with with the
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Speaker 1: guys in chat. It's really just been really tough to
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Speaker 1: figure out if it's going to be a polo of
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Speaker 1: Frans Night there's a lot of kind of negative comments
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Speaker 1: around Paula right now that he may have peaked as
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Speaker 1: a player.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's yeah shooting.
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Speaker 2: Someone was comparing him, I can't remember who was.
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Speaker 1: Comparing Josh Smith. Yeah, yeah, which is not like it's
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Speaker 1: not a terrible comparison. Josh Smith was flying back in
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Speaker 1: his day. But Paulo is supposed to be a franchise
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Speaker 1: changing player and he's just not gotten better at shooting
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Speaker 1: the ball.
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 1: It's a huge part of the You can't rely on
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Speaker 1: mid range to win basketball games anymore. I've seen it
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Speaker 1: from the Kings and they look terrible.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It's a good price tag for Polo. Matchup could get
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Speaker 1: a lot better as well if a star were to miss,
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Speaker 1: although I think Asar would be on Franza, then Tobias
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Speaker 1: would be on Pollo. Tobias did just give up a
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Speaker 1: pretty big game to Jaylen Brown, So there's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of upside for Polo for sure at this mid
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Speaker 1: eight point five k price tag. But I kind of
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Speaker 1: like Bange the most here a little bit, just kind
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Speaker 1: of taking the ownership into account and the matchup for him.
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Speaker 1: Then agree with you on Kid. I mean, he's underwhelming
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Speaker 1: right now, but this should be a pretty good spot
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Speaker 1: for him to bounce back in a pretty big way.
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Speaker 1: The Magic have been a team that gives a lot
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Speaker 1: of volume to on ball scores their bottom four in
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Speaker 1: ISO and then always are a pretty big pick and
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Speaker 1: roll funnel defense. And I kind of think it's a
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Speaker 1: sneaky better spot for Kid if a Star were to miss,
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Speaker 1: and the reason being, Asar just provides no floor spacing
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Speaker 1: and it shrinks the floor, like we talked about it
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Speaker 1: years past, right point, Yeah, I mean, he's just he
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Speaker 1: can't shoot, and it's just it clogs up the pain,
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Speaker 1: clogs up the floor. You can't have Duran and Nasara
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Speaker 1: Thompson and Kate on the floor together. It just doesn't
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Speaker 1: really work. So I think taking him out and adding
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Speaker 1: in a Ron Holland or whoever else they might put
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Speaker 1: in just to get a little bit more floor spacing
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Speaker 1: would be a plus for Kid here. So yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think that's one we got to keep an eye. And
10:22
Speaker 1: I also think that if a Star would have miss
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Speaker 1: and we do get word that Ron Holland is starting,
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Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a tough spot to avoid.
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Speaker 3: I totally agree with that even with a lot of value,
10:31
Speaker 3: like I think he'll stand out. And you see Aaron
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Speaker 3: Rasmus saying Carter best DK value in the game.
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Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's not a sexy play at fifty four hundred, like,
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Speaker 3: and I don't know if his price point is gonna
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Speaker 3: fit like how I'm building tonight, but I'm fine with
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Speaker 3: playing him. He's probably too cheap, so I think Wendell
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Speaker 3: Carter fifty four hundred is at least worth a mention.
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Speaker 1: Fine with it, definitely all right. That takes us into
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Speaker 1: another game. Two pretty competitive some commerce teams. I would say, Boston,
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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what they end up doing towards
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Speaker 1: the end of the season, but Cleveland's gonna be one
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Speaker 1: of the top saints in the league.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: This one kind of looks like more of a defensive
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Speaker 1: battle for me. These two teams have been playing a
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Speaker 1: really solid defense this season and are known for their defense.
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Speaker 1: I anticipate Boston is going to get a little bit
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Speaker 1: worse as the season progresses, but right now they are
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Speaker 1: playing pretty good. I don't know if I see this
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Speaker 1: game hitting in a really big way. Where we're going
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Speaker 1: to need players from this game. It would obviously change
11:31
Speaker 1: if we do get word that Josh might not is starting,
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Speaker 1: because that's going to be a pretty solid value. Played
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Speaker 1: really well last game as they were asking to play
11:38
Speaker 1: a lot more on ball defense last game, which they
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Speaker 1: might do again here against Donovan Mitchell. Is anything really
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Speaker 1: standing out to you on either side of this game?
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Speaker 3: I don't like this game at all from a DFS perspective.
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Speaker 3: I like it from a real life perspective. And speaking
11:52
Speaker 3: of which, since I don't like this game from the
11:54
Speaker 3: DFS perspective, I don't have much to talk about. I
11:56
Speaker 3: got a huge bone to pick with you. I was
11:59
Speaker 3: watching the show either yesterday or the day before, heard
12:02
Speaker 3: you talking about the Eastern Conference, and you just casually
12:04
Speaker 3: slipped in that, yeah, it'll either be Milwaukee or New
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Speaker 3: York coming out of the East. What happened to my Calves?
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Speaker 3: I mean, what happened?
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Speaker 1: I definitely overlooked them. I do think that they'll they'll
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Speaker 1: be up there, for sure.
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Speaker 2: I mean they lose consistently, but the.
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Speaker 1: Easts, yeah, for sure. If there was ever a time
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Speaker 1: for one of those teams like the Knicks or the
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Speaker 1: Calves to break through in the US it's got to
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Speaker 1: be this year.
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Speaker 3: I agree, But obviously I'm just kidding with a bone,
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Speaker 3: you know, playing around. As far as from a DFS perspective,
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Speaker 3: I think you're kind of grasping its straws to go
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Speaker 3: to this game just so many other much better spots,
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Speaker 3: And to your point at the beginning about like wanting
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Speaker 3: to get more correlation, that just limits the amount of
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Speaker 3: other spots you can get to. And I just don't
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Speaker 3: really see this game as one I'm dying to play
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Speaker 3: at all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, there's some guys that are projecting his
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Speaker 1: decent values in this game with josh Mine Jalen Tyson.
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Speaker 1: We'll obviously see what the starting lineup looks like. I
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Speaker 1: don't really know if I want to go to Jalen
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Speaker 1: Taxon here, just because I think that the Pacers are
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Speaker 1: going to be much much better and there's way more
13:06
Speaker 1: just offensive usage to go around for those guys. But
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Speaker 1: I'll say I don't mind Dovin mitchellin tournaments. He's been
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Speaker 1: really good in his career against Boston since he's come
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Speaker 1: over to the Cavs, averaging about, you know, just under
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Speaker 1: fifty four draftings points per game versus Boston over the
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Speaker 1: last three seasons. Obviously this is a different team then
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Speaker 1: he's facing back then, but if anything, the roster is worse.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no Drew Holliday. I don't really think
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Speaker 1: that their pignoral defense is gonna be as good as
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Speaker 1: the numbers say right now with the MIAs Kaida and
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Speaker 1: all those other guys that they're gonna be thrown out there,
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Speaker 1: like Luca Garzel, like he should should be able to
13:38
Speaker 1: put up a pretty solid scoring night. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if there's enough upside on this type of slide though,
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Speaker 1: but I would say that he's probably the best spin
13:46
Speaker 1: up in the in the in this game for sure,
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Speaker 1: and then between like Jalen Brown, Derek White and Pritchard,
13:51
Speaker 1: I do prefer Pritchard right now is kind of starting
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Speaker 1: to show the upside that he had last season, but
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Speaker 1: now in the starting role. So I think that he's
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Speaker 1: going to be my favorit option on the Celtics because
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Speaker 1: he should be guarded by Donovan Mitchell in this game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, And to your point about Mitchell, like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: he's been really good against Boston and also like with
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Speaker 3: the Cavs being so good in the regular season and
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Speaker 3: then flaming out in the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: I think you got to pick your spots with Mitchell
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Speaker 2: this year.
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Speaker 3: I think a big game hunting with him, and this
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Speaker 3: is a big game against Boston. So yeah, like I
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Speaker 3: get that he's over priced for his median projection, but
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Speaker 3: like it's not all about median projection, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure, there's you got a factor in
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Speaker 1: the upside. I just want to see if this game
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Speaker 1: is nationally televise. I don't know if it's going to be.
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Speaker 3: I was realizing last night with the game on NBC
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Speaker 3: last night the Knicks Bucks, that there are so many
14:42
Speaker 3: more games on national TV this year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty pretty crazy. I like that they
14:47
Speaker 1: did the Prime deal. I kind of like watching. I mean,
14:50
Speaker 1: the stream is way better than it was over on YouTube.
14:52
Speaker 1: The only thing, I don't know if you can do
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Speaker 1: this or not, but you can't have like the four
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Speaker 1: games on it once. I'm just gonna have to get
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Speaker 1: four TV, I guess. Yeah. So this game is a
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Speaker 1: nationally televised so you do get some longer timeouts, which
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Speaker 1: should help Mitchell from a playing time perspective. And I
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Speaker 1: do agree that's kind of something you got to consider
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Speaker 1: with it, Like those are just the intangible things you
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Speaker 1: can really add into projections, is like the narrative behind
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Speaker 1: the game. So he could play hypothetically more minutes and
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Speaker 1: I to boost up his ceiling. Next game is definitely
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Speaker 1: one I think that we're gonna have to have some
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Speaker 1: interest in. We got the probably the worst team in
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Speaker 1: the league in the Brooklyn Nets, facing off against the Hawks,
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Speaker 1: who I don't think are you know, they're okay? But
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Speaker 1: this game should definitely play faster. Hawks do like to
15:37
Speaker 1: play a lot faster paced than normal. I haven't really
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Speaker 1: shown that pace this season. And then the Nets are
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Speaker 1: dead last and transition defense by five more points than
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Speaker 1: the next closest team, which is the Hawks, So there
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Speaker 1: is some upside for both these teams. Hawks are dead
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Speaker 1: last and rim defense. Nets are bottom four and rim defense,
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Speaker 1: and they allow the second most threes per game. You
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Speaker 1: can honestly close your eyes and pick somebody on the
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Speaker 1: Hawks and they're probably going to be in a really
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Speaker 1: good spot here. The downside is this game does have
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Speaker 1: some potential blowout, but it seems like Vegas kind of
16:08
Speaker 1: expected to stay closer than usual. I'm not sure exactly
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Speaker 1: the reason why it could be because of these probable
16:15
Speaker 1: tags not being one hundred percent healthy. Maybe christops one
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Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy. But either way, Hawks should win this
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Speaker 1: one pretty handily. But if it does stay close, this
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Speaker 1: is kind of one of the games that I was
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Speaker 1: alluding to about adding some correlation because Kim Thomas and
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Speaker 1: Michael Port Junior are coming in with a good amount
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Speaker 1: of ownership and they project pretty well across the industry.
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Speaker 1: Those guys are not getting there if this game isn't close.
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Speaker 1: I think that it kind of makes sense to pair
16:41
Speaker 1: those guys up with one of the main pieces on Atlanta.
16:44
Speaker 1: For me, Jalen Johnson is the guy that kind of
16:46
Speaker 1: sticks out in a really big way. He's always been
16:48
Speaker 1: a guy. I mean, I'm a huge Jalen Johnson guy
16:51
Speaker 1: for sure, but always like playing him against weak transition
16:54
Speaker 1: defenses and weak rim defenses, and the Nets definitely check
16:58
Speaker 1: off both of those boxes. I was looking back at
17:01
Speaker 1: some of his numbers against the worst transition defenses in
17:04
Speaker 1: the league last year, and I think you had some
17:07
Speaker 1: massive games against Washington, like fifty plus in each game,
17:09
Speaker 1: and then a couple of mid forty pointers, which would
17:12
Speaker 1: be okay at is probably see definitely need the fifty
17:15
Speaker 1: plus here, but he's definitely a guy that kind of
17:18
Speaker 1: sticks on a pretty big way for me. For Atlanta,
17:20
Speaker 1: what are you seeing in this one?
17:22
Speaker 3: So I'm a little bit torn because we see this
17:24
Speaker 3: eye to eye. I think that Atlanta is just too
17:28
Speaker 3: expensive for their median projection, but I do like their
17:31
Speaker 3: upside in a competitive game. And then Brooklyn is a
17:35
Speaker 3: classic and you see like one or two teams like
17:37
Speaker 3: this season.
17:38
Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't, but this year they're the team where these.
17:41
Speaker 3: Guys are priced and I'm talking about camp Thomas and
17:43
Speaker 3: Porter Junior really where in non competitive games, which is
17:47
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of their games, they're too
17:49
Speaker 3: expensive and you just can't play them because they're not
17:51
Speaker 3: going to get full run and they're going to be
17:53
Speaker 3: really disappointing. But in competitive games they're way too cheap.
17:57
Speaker 3: And that's evidence like in their game logs has two
18:00
Speaker 3: games of twenty or under Fantasy points and two games.
18:03
Speaker 2: Of forty four or more.
18:05
Speaker 3: So if you're telling me this game is competitive against
18:07
Speaker 3: Atlanta here, he's too cheap at like sixty six hundred
18:10
Speaker 3: or whatever, sixty eight hundred, you know, could easily hit
18:14
Speaker 3: forty plus fantasy points projects really well at that price
18:16
Speaker 3: point getting love, and I'm with you, like, there's no
18:19
Speaker 3: way that you know these guys are getting there in
18:22
Speaker 3: a non competitive game. So if it's competitive, I don't
18:25
Speaker 3: think it's competitive because it's like a lower scoring slug past.
18:28
Speaker 3: It's competitive because both teams are scoring a ton, and
18:31
Speaker 3: that means you're probably gonna want some Atlanta. I'm talking
18:34
Speaker 3: myself into and you've kind of got me on the
18:36
Speaker 3: Jalen Johnson piece. Trey Young is too expensive. I'm cool
18:39
Speaker 3: with Porzingis, but like he's not really like the piece
18:42
Speaker 3: I'm talking about or that we're talking about as far
18:44
Speaker 3: as like an uppaced matchup goes. I think he would
18:47
Speaker 3: be the second piece I play from Atlanta. But I'm
18:49
Speaker 3: in on Jalen Johnson here, and I like the two
18:51
Speaker 3: nets players, Porter and Thomas, and I think playing all
18:55
Speaker 3: three of them together makes sense.
18:57
Speaker 1: So I assume you have it ranked as Jalen KP
19:00
Speaker 1: and then Trey in terms of the spend up guys
19:03
Speaker 1: for the Hawks.
19:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I struggle to get to Trey at ninety
19:06
Speaker 3: one hundred with Jalen Johnson healthy. Yeah, you know, I
19:09
Speaker 3: could see just like playing a game stack of this
19:11
Speaker 3: game where I would want Trey, but he is the
19:14
Speaker 3: third piece for me.
19:15
Speaker 2: How about yo?
19:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of I think I agree with you there.
19:18
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of I don't know, man, Trey has
19:21
Speaker 1: been really tough to pinpoint. He had a pretty like
19:24
Speaker 1: good statistical game last time out with seventeen assists and
19:28
Speaker 1: still only put up like fifty one draftings points. Right,
19:32
Speaker 1: and he is just shooting the ball awfully right now.
19:34
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy was known to be like a
19:36
Speaker 1: three point shooter coming to the league. I believe he's
19:37
Speaker 1: shooting like twenty percent from three point range to start
19:41
Speaker 1: the season, hasn't made more than two in a game,
19:43
Speaker 1: but he does have the double double to fall back on.
19:45
Speaker 1: So if you can say that he gets to his
19:47
Speaker 1: like median career three point percentage, which might be in
19:50
Speaker 1: like the upper thirty percent range, then we're talking about,
19:53
Speaker 1: you know, him getting close to sixty DK points, which
19:56
Speaker 1: would be great at his price tag. But I do
19:59
Speaker 1: think that the matchup is a little bit tougher for him,
20:02
Speaker 1: just schematic wise. Under Jody Fernandez, the Nets have always
20:05
Speaker 1: been a team that tries to take away pick and
20:07
Speaker 1: roll and they'll they'll definitely put two on the ball
20:09
Speaker 1: at times, so if anything, like he's gonna have to
20:11
Speaker 1: get hot from deep, like scoring off ball, or just
20:14
Speaker 1: have a really really big assist output game again, which
20:17
Speaker 1: I think is for sure possible. Didn't want to overlook Nikkekle.
20:22
Speaker 1: Alexander Walker has been playing like thirty minutes off the
20:24
Speaker 1: bench in pretty much every game this season, and Anyako
20:28
Speaker 1: Congo as well have been playing really good off the bench.
20:30
Speaker 1: Quinn Snyders talked about those guys basically being extra starters,
20:33
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be tough for I don't know, like
20:37
Speaker 1: I guess everybody on the Hawks, but for those guys,
20:40
Speaker 1: and like Dyson Daniels and Resa Shane particular, like nobody's
20:43
Speaker 1: gonna be running away with the minutes in a really
20:45
Speaker 1: big way, so it makes it tougher to get to
20:46
Speaker 1: the tertiary guys. For the Atlanta pieces, I think that
20:52
Speaker 1: covers everything in that game. Yeah, I think that'll be
20:55
Speaker 1: everything in that one. I'll go over to the next one,
20:58
Speaker 1: which I would say is another very appealing game, as
21:01
Speaker 1: most Bulls games are. Surprisingly, the Bulls are undefeated right
21:05
Speaker 1: now and playing really good team basketball. Top two ranked defense,
21:09
Speaker 1: which I think is kind of a little smoking mirrors.
21:11
Speaker 1: This is not a team that's really built to have
21:13
Speaker 1: great defense. They've just been getting very lucky with other
21:16
Speaker 1: teams not scoring on them. But they are giving up
21:20
Speaker 1: a ton of points at the rim and they play fast,
21:22
Speaker 1: so it's always a really good spot to look at
21:24
Speaker 1: for a game environment. And then the Kings talked about
21:27
Speaker 1: them alat yesterday, kind of talked a lot of smack.
21:29
Speaker 1: I just don't really like the way that this team
21:31
Speaker 1: is built. Just got a lot of guys that do
21:33
Speaker 1: the same thing, a lot of guys that need the
21:34
Speaker 1: ball in their hands, and a lot of guys that
21:36
Speaker 1: love taking mid range jumpers, which is just a losing game.
21:40
Speaker 1: But this is a good spot, I would say, with
21:42
Speaker 1: the pace up and then matchups for guys like Sabonas
21:45
Speaker 1: and I think Lavigne is actually in a decent spot.
21:47
Speaker 1: And then obviously if Russell Westbrook gets another start, he's
21:50
Speaker 1: going to be pretty tough person to avoid at four
21:53
Speaker 1: point five K. So yeah, I think this is a
21:56
Speaker 1: game we're going to have to look to. But what
21:57
Speaker 1: is standing out to you from this one?
22:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this game definitely stands out from a DFS
22:03
Speaker 3: perspective again, but it's not the only one. Already talked
22:05
Speaker 3: about a couple others that look good, and there's some
22:07
Speaker 3: other ones after this one. From the Sacramento side. It's
22:11
Speaker 3: tough to like want to lock in anyone from Sacramento
22:15
Speaker 3: ever when they're healthy. That said, Westbrook, if he's starting again,
22:19
Speaker 3: his price tag looks really good, you know, coming off
22:21
Speaker 3: that Monster game last night, and then Sabonis for me,
22:24
Speaker 3: I know, Wardo just said in the chat he's not
22:28
Speaker 3: fully healthy, and I don't know, maybe he's not. That said, like,
22:33
Speaker 3: his production has gone up every game, his minutes have
22:37
Speaker 3: been fine, in a.
22:39
Speaker 2: Good spot against the Bulls.
22:40
Speaker 3: Lack of spend up options across the slate, I have
22:44
Speaker 3: some interest in Sabonis. I'd rather get to ad at
22:47
Speaker 3: a little bit more, obviously Jokic, but like this game
22:51
Speaker 3: is appealing. So just like we talked about the Brooklyn
22:54
Speaker 3: Atlanta game, I think you could overstack this game for sure.
22:56
Speaker 3: Certainly pieces from Chicago we like. Sabonis is my face
23:00
Speaker 3: piece of Sacramento outside of Westbrook, but Westbrook at forty
23:03
Speaker 3: five hundred, presuming he's starting, looks like a really really
23:06
Speaker 3: good value.
23:06
Speaker 2: Play.
23:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on Sabonis. It is a good
23:09
Speaker 1: spot for him. Don't think that BC is a very
23:11
Speaker 1: good defender, and he should be able to get all
23:14
Speaker 1: that he wants to run the basket. The thing that
23:16
Speaker 1: is keeping me off of him, like he's not getting
23:18
Speaker 1: the assist. They've really changed his role and that obviously
23:21
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense when you got guys like Schroeder, Russ, Levine,
23:25
Speaker 1: Damar who all need the ball in their hands. They're
23:27
Speaker 1: not really running the offense through Sabonis as much anymore.
23:30
Speaker 1: So he's losing that triple double upside that made him
23:33
Speaker 1: such an appealing fantasy option last season. But that being said,
23:36
Speaker 1: he is still pretty cheap for the talent that he
23:39
Speaker 1: provides and for the matchup. So I'm with you. I
23:41
Speaker 1: think that he's in a good spot here. I like
23:45
Speaker 1: Matest buzellis a pretty good bit here that I just
23:47
Speaker 1: don't really think that the Kings have very many good
23:50
Speaker 1: winging defenders and he's playing, you know, low thirty minutes,
23:53
Speaker 1: and I think this could be a spot where we
23:55
Speaker 1: see an uptick in rebounds. They've been really going away
23:58
Speaker 1: from Jalen Smith and going with Patrick Williams as a
24:00
Speaker 1: small ball five, which I think that will help Matas.
24:03
Speaker 1: In those minutes said they overlap together, so he's probably
24:06
Speaker 1: my first or second favorite option on the Bulls. I
24:09
Speaker 1: like both him and Trey Johnson a pretty good bit here.
24:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Matas.
24:13
Speaker 3: I think the big games coming for him, but I
24:16
Speaker 3: also like Vouch and Giddy. Uh Man, I don't really
24:20
Speaker 3: want to chase Vouch, but he's been productive.
24:22
Speaker 2: This is a good spot eighty three hundred and then Giddy,
24:24
Speaker 2: same thing.
24:25
Speaker 3: And I think that the reason these guys, I don't
24:27
Speaker 3: want to say stand out, but at least are in play.
24:29
Speaker 3: It's just because there aren't a ton of good spend
24:32
Speaker 3: up options. So these guys fall into like the mid tier,
24:36
Speaker 3: but they project as like high end mid tier plays
24:39
Speaker 3: on a site where they won't be hard to get to.
24:41
Speaker 3: So I like the Atlanta Brooklyn game more if it
24:45
Speaker 3: stays competitive. But I think that game is more likely
24:47
Speaker 3: to not stay competitive, So I think this game is
24:49
Speaker 3: a little bit safer in that regard.
24:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean the Kings, they're they're not
24:53
Speaker 1: really a bad scene, like, they have a talented roster.
24:56
Speaker 1: I think that they if they were in the game
24:59
Speaker 1: against okay See last night with with a chance to win,
25:02
Speaker 1: so they definitely could keep it close. I don't think
25:04
Speaker 1: that's kind of concerning for me, especially first the bonus
25:06
Speaker 1: is the back to back, you know, coming into the
25:08
Speaker 1: season with the hamstring injury, which is a little little
25:11
Speaker 1: worri sum. But I agree, I think that they have
25:12
Speaker 1: a better chance of keeping it close.
25:15
Speaker 3: My only concern there, and kind of the counter to
25:17
Speaker 3: what I just said is they like blew their wide
25:19
Speaker 3: last night and okay See trying to win that game
25:22
Speaker 3: and they did not. And it's not like they're a
25:24
Speaker 3: great team. I do think that they have talent all over,
25:26
Speaker 3: but to your point, I don't think they're built correctly.
25:28
Speaker 3: So the Bulls are playing well, like I could see
25:31
Speaker 3: the Bulls winning this game handily, but it's not enough
25:33
Speaker 3: of a concern, Like the Bulls are not good enough
25:36
Speaker 3: where I'm concerned about it.
25:37
Speaker 2: Talent wise, I think these teams are similar.
25:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the homecoming game for Zach Lavine as well,
25:44
Speaker 1: if you guys want to buy into all right, but
25:49
Speaker 1: the next game we got is the Indie and Dallas game,
25:53
Speaker 1: So a lot of value coming from the Indie side
25:55
Speaker 1: in this one. Obviously with all the injuries, I'll I'll
25:58
Speaker 1: list them off real quick. But yeah, obviously know Haler
26:02
Speaker 1: Burndon done for this season with the achilles, Andrew dem
26:05
Speaker 1: Hardy gonna be out for a few more games, didn't
26:07
Speaker 1: really say when he's gonna be back, and then kind
26:09
Speaker 1: of a open timetable for Benick Matheren, Obi Topp and
26:12
Speaker 1: who did get injured last few games. And then for
26:16
Speaker 1: the MAVs, they're gonna be without Derek Lively, Daniel Gafford,
26:18
Speaker 1: and then probably Brandon Williams, who got arrested this morning
26:21
Speaker 1: on marijuana charges at the airport, which is kind of
26:24
Speaker 1: crazy that that's still happening now. But yeah, while that's
26:29
Speaker 1: a conversation for another time for sure. Also, there's a
26:32
Speaker 1: probable tag on Anthony Davis with the achilles. He's had
26:35
Speaker 1: so many injury designations with the achilles. I would definitely
26:41
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. I don't think he's gonna
26:42
Speaker 1: get downgraded, but I would not be surprised if he does.
26:44
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's very I don't want to say
26:48
Speaker 1: he's very injury prone, but he has been in the past,
26:50
Speaker 1: been pretty healthy the last couple of seasons. I definitely
26:54
Speaker 1: want to keep an eye on there. So the indie value,
26:57
Speaker 1: What are you thinking here? Because I think that there's
26:59
Speaker 1: kind of a a lot to talk through. Don't really
27:02
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do with the starting lineup. They
27:04
Speaker 1: very well could change it. I think Jay Huff was
27:06
Speaker 1: in their last game, but they could swap him out
27:08
Speaker 1: for Tony Bradley. We probably could see ray J. Dennis
27:12
Speaker 1: start here. But they did also call up Mac McClung,
27:15
Speaker 1: so we gotta kind of swartz through a lot in
27:17
Speaker 1: this game.
27:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, Indiana kind of starts and ends with Pascal.
27:22
Speaker 3: Seat not ends, but it starts. And really that's the
27:24
Speaker 3: main piece to talk over is Pascal because kind of
27:28
Speaker 3: like the Brooklyn guys. In the two competitive games India
27:30
Speaker 3: played this year, he has smashed sixty plus Fantasy points.
27:34
Speaker 3: In the non competitive game, he was awful eighty four hundred.
27:38
Speaker 3: He's getting a lot of ownership. As he projected across
27:40
Speaker 3: the industry, I could see him being a core piece tonight.
27:44
Speaker 3: Do you feel similarly about him starting there?
27:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree. I mean it's gonna be this
27:49
Speaker 1: is really tough to overlook his role that he's had.
27:52
Speaker 1: He's basically running the point guard role. Led the team
27:54
Speaker 1: in touch time, in assist percentage last game, and I
27:57
Speaker 1: mean the spread is closed six points for a team
28:00
Speaker 1: that's gonna be without all their guys, essentially like Vegas
28:05
Speaker 1: is expecting this game to be closed. So I think
28:06
Speaker 1: that he's probably the first guy you look to in
28:10
Speaker 1: in instinglentry. Now when it comes to like large field stuff,
28:14
Speaker 1: you could probably make the case to get away from him.
28:16
Speaker 1: I think that he probably comes in a little bit
28:19
Speaker 1: higher than whatever his projected ownership is, which we have
28:22
Speaker 1: it at twenty. It's going to be more than that,
28:25
Speaker 1: I would imagine.
28:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seeing him higher at other places, so I
28:29
Speaker 3: do think it will be higher than that. And I
28:31
Speaker 3: do like this game, like Dallas is not good Indiana.
28:34
Speaker 3: It's decimated, but like they're are, like Dallas is just
28:37
Speaker 3: not good. So as favorites, I'm never trusting Dallas. Won't
28:40
Speaker 3: be surprised if Indy wins this game. So I think
28:43
Speaker 3: Indy certainly keeps it close as far as the value goes.
28:46
Speaker 3: I do think we have to wait on the starting lineup.
28:48
Speaker 3: But the one guy that I think is gonna look
28:50
Speaker 3: really really good no matter what is ray j A
28:54
Speaker 3: thirty eight hundred has been productive. He's projected right now
28:57
Speaker 3: at some places to be the highest honed player on
28:59
Speaker 3: the sleigh. I get it, thirty eight hundred projecting. Well, Uh,
29:05
Speaker 3: he looks really really good here. I do think that again,
29:08
Speaker 3: to your point, we have to wait and see what
29:10
Speaker 3: this lineup looks like.
29:11
Speaker 2: Matt McClung throws a big wrench and do it.
29:13
Speaker 3: Ben Shephard also looks good, but his price tag is
29:15
Speaker 3: bumped up a little bit. I kind of want to
29:18
Speaker 3: take a wait and see approach with Indy.
29:21
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that Ben Sheppard gets sim ownership heading into
29:23
Speaker 1: the slay because I just don't think that he's very
29:25
Speaker 1: good and he's definitely not a point guard. So if
29:28
Speaker 1: people want to play him, play him by all means,
29:30
Speaker 1: like give me Jarris Walker and ray J Dennis all day.
29:34
Speaker 1: I also think that yeah, Jerriss, I mean I think
29:36
Speaker 1: Jerris is great, like he's sorry about him. Yeah, he's
29:40
Speaker 1: such just such a better play than Ben Shepard in
29:42
Speaker 1: my opinion. I mean Jarris's they kind of ran him
29:45
Speaker 1: a little bit more as like an on ball guy
29:47
Speaker 1: in the second unit as well, which you're gonna have
29:49
Speaker 1: to do, Like when Sea Awkom's off the court, and
29:51
Speaker 1: especially if ray J is starting and they kind of
29:53
Speaker 1: stagger him away from them, that leaves nobody in the
29:56
Speaker 1: second unit that could actually handle the ball other than
29:58
Speaker 1: Jeris Walker a little bit. So I think that there's
30:01
Speaker 1: kind of some sneaky upside for him even coming off
30:03
Speaker 1: the bench.
30:05
Speaker 3: Goes to hop in there real quick. I also think
30:07
Speaker 3: there's some sneaky upside with him defensively. He was such
30:09
Speaker 3: a defensive stunt coming out of Houston, like monster defensive stats,
30:15
Speaker 3: and that's still in there, and like when he's on
30:17
Speaker 3: the court, that's always in play. And I think that
30:20
Speaker 3: kind of combined what you said and that he's got
30:23
Speaker 3: big upside at that price.
30:24
Speaker 1: Deck for sure. Yeah, that's a great point that you made.
30:27
Speaker 1: They need size in this matchup, even you know with
30:29
Speaker 1: Lively Gafford, this starting lineup for Dallas is still huge
30:33
Speaker 1: with Flag and PJ and Andy Davis out there. Yeah,
30:36
Speaker 1: so they're gonna need some size for sure. I would
30:39
Speaker 1: definitely keep an eye on what they get what they're
30:40
Speaker 1: gonna do with the front court because it has been
30:43
Speaker 1: Jay Huffs starting. But I think that they're gonna go
30:45
Speaker 1: with Tony Bradley here, and that would make him a
30:48
Speaker 1: pretty solid option. Like, if he's playing twenty eight to
30:50
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes, that's gonna be a really tough spot
30:53
Speaker 1: to get away from. But then you do get a
30:55
Speaker 1: little bit of leverage if you go with Jay Huffs.
30:57
Speaker 1: I would definitely be Max one of those two guys. Actually,
31:00
Speaker 1: hold on, I might be wrong there. Are they having
31:03
Speaker 1: Isaiah Jackson come off the bench? Yeah, he is projected
31:06
Speaker 1: to come off the bench here. Yeah, I would probably
31:09
Speaker 1: say Max one of Bradley and Jackson, potentially Jay Huff
31:12
Speaker 1: as well, depending on what they do in the starting lineup.
31:14
Speaker 1: But yeah, for sure a spot you're gonna need to
31:17
Speaker 1: decide on some value. And then on the Dallas side,
31:21
Speaker 1: I assume you have a good amount of interest in Ad. Yeah.
31:24
Speaker 2: I like Ad a lot.
31:25
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's unfortunately or fortunately or whatever
31:29
Speaker 3: right now, but yeah, he should just really eat against
31:31
Speaker 3: this front court and in a game I think is competitive. So,
31:35
Speaker 3: you know, he hasn't been great this season. He's been
31:39
Speaker 3: better than Caid, He's more expensive, he's been more consistent,
31:42
Speaker 3: you know, averaging like somewhere around fifty Fantasy points per game.
31:46
Speaker 3: Haven't seen the monster upside, but it's coming. So he
31:49
Speaker 3: projects decent, his ownership is stable, It's not that high
31:54
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing across the industry. So yeah, I like
31:57
Speaker 3: AD quite a bit here. I think this game has
32:00
Speaker 3: Like I don't think on paper it looks as good
32:03
Speaker 3: as a couple of the other games we talked about,
32:05
Speaker 3: but I do think the upside is there here in
32:07
Speaker 3: a game I expect to be competitive, so playing like
32:09
Speaker 3: a d Pascal and then some of the Indiana value
32:13
Speaker 3: looks appealing to me.
32:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean you could even toss in
32:16
Speaker 1: like PJ. Washington and D'Angel Russell, we're both project pretty decently.
32:20
Speaker 1: I think dlo Is is pretty good at five point
32:23
Speaker 1: three K. Just the Couber flag point guard minutes have
32:26
Speaker 1: not gone as good as they should have or probably
32:30
Speaker 1: that they wanted to want them to do, and Deal
32:32
Speaker 1: kind of provides something that they don't have in the
32:34
Speaker 1: starting lineup. So I think that he's pretty good.
32:38
Speaker 3: And we're subbing out flag like late in that game
32:40
Speaker 3: offense defensive d lo So I'm totally with you, Like,
32:43
Speaker 3: I think DLA at that price is pretty pretty affordable
32:46
Speaker 3: and has upside there.
32:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, Flag's not listed on the injury report, but he
32:50
Speaker 1: didn't have a shoulder injury in that game. He's probably
32:52
Speaker 1: fine because he's young and not on the injury report,
32:55
Speaker 1: but definitely something to keep an eye. And then PJ.
32:57
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna have to play it to He's
32:59
Speaker 1: probably gonna be at worse matching Sam's minutes because they're
33:02
Speaker 1: going to have him on Siakam. But there was a time,
33:05
Speaker 1: like a couple of games ago, where he played thirty
33:07
Speaker 1: nine minutes and Jason James Kidd was like, we need
33:09
Speaker 1: to play him more. I don't know how many more
33:10
Speaker 1: minutes you can give him, but definitely a guy that
33:12
Speaker 1: can get there just off of minutes alone. All right,
33:16
Speaker 1: next game on the slate, we've got my Utah Jazz
33:18
Speaker 1: at home against the Portland Blazers. This game should be
33:21
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I like these teams, obviously, I
33:23
Speaker 1: like my Jazz, but I think Portland is a pretty
33:25
Speaker 1: fun watch right now. I love the addition of Drew Holliday,
33:29
Speaker 1: and I think that Jamie Grant has been playing great
33:31
Speaker 1: off the bench. You gotta stud and Denny Avdia really
33:34
Speaker 1: good center and clinging. And then Shaden Sharp to Monty Kamara,
33:37
Speaker 1: two young guys. I'm really really high on the We're
33:41
Speaker 1: gonna see the Jazz get into a lot of shootouts here.
33:43
Speaker 1: Their offense looks so much better, and I don't think
33:46
Speaker 1: that their defense is very good. They were the worst
33:48
Speaker 1: transition defense in the league last season, but had been
33:51
Speaker 1: better in the first few games this season. Did give
33:54
Speaker 1: up a good amount versus suns last year, but they're
33:56
Speaker 1: gonna be a team that gives up a lot of transition,
33:58
Speaker 1: a lot of three pointers because the Walker Custer is
34:00
Speaker 1: a really good rent protector. And then they're also a
34:03
Speaker 1: team that can turn the ball over a ton. Chanty
34:06
Speaker 1: George has been playing great. But still think that this
34:09
Speaker 1: is a really young team with a lot of issues.
34:12
Speaker 1: But I still think that they can keep things competitive.
34:15
Speaker 1: As for Portland, they're playing pretty good defense, which is
34:17
Speaker 1: no surprise, you know. Adding Drew out there to play
34:20
Speaker 1: more on ball on the Don mc clingan manning the middle,
34:23
Speaker 1: They're going to allow Drew to play a lot of
34:25
Speaker 1: one on one defense, which is what Boston did last year,
34:27
Speaker 1: which kind of led to some pretty big, pretty big
34:30
Speaker 1: output for some lead handlers. So I don't think it's
34:32
Speaker 1: the worst spot for the Guards for the Jazz. Yeah,
34:35
Speaker 1: I think that this game is another one that's got
34:36
Speaker 1: pretty sneaky shootout potential. We did just see the what
34:39
Speaker 1: could happen in a game like this when the Suns
34:41
Speaker 1: and the Jazz went to overtime and you had pretty
34:44
Speaker 1: much six guys you needed from that game? Is there
34:46
Speaker 1: anything that is sticking out to you from either side
34:49
Speaker 1: in this one?
34:50
Speaker 3: I'm like totally aligned with you on this game. In totality,
34:54
Speaker 3: I think this game has massive, sneaky upside.
34:57
Speaker 2: Price tags are going to.
34:58
Speaker 3: Keep people away, and like, I don't think there's one
35:02
Speaker 3: guy that I can sit here and say, like, looks
35:04
Speaker 3: great from a medium projection price tag standpoint, but like,
35:09
Speaker 3: how do you not like, look at Drew Holliday at
35:11
Speaker 3: under seven K with how he's playing Shade and sharp
35:14
Speaker 3: with upside, And then obviously you look at the Utah
35:18
Speaker 3: side with George Keyante, George Walker Kessler and man Lauri Marketen,
35:23
Speaker 3: like he has been so good to start the season.
35:26
Speaker 3: You don't expect what he did last time. But man, like,
35:29
Speaker 3: I think he's way under projected across the industry. His
35:34
Speaker 3: price tag is up, and I don't think like this
35:36
Speaker 3: production is going to continue, but in a game I
35:39
Speaker 3: think is competitive under ak really low ownership. I'm in
35:43
Speaker 3: our market in here. How do you feel about him?
35:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree. I think that this is probably one
35:48
Speaker 1: of the tougher matches for him, just because I think
35:50
Speaker 1: that Kamara is a elite wing defender. But there's a
35:54
Speaker 1: good chance that Laurie has just taken a huge step
35:56
Speaker 1: forward and they're kind of just saying, fuck it, We're
36:00
Speaker 1: not going to tank anymore. Let's just play these play
36:02
Speaker 1: our main guys a lot of minutes. So I do
36:04
Speaker 1: kind of agree. I kind of I talked to a little
36:07
Speaker 1: smack him, thinking that his price tagle last game was
36:09
Speaker 1: a little bit too expensive for the upside that he had,
36:13
Speaker 1: and he put all that to rest. You know, had
36:15
Speaker 1: a huge game fifty one points first since karmelone, which
36:19
Speaker 1: was just a great game to watch for sure. But yeah,
36:21
Speaker 1: I kind of agree. I think that these guys might
36:23
Speaker 1: just be a little bit underpriced. If Will Hardy is
36:26
Speaker 1: going to run them out there for heavy minutes. The
36:28
Speaker 1: guy that I like the most on the Utah side
36:30
Speaker 1: is going to be Kiante. Though I obviously respect Drew
36:33
Speaker 1: Holliday as a defender, but like I mentioned that he's
36:35
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna leave him on the island and Kiante's
36:38
Speaker 1: Loki had one of the better roles for point guards
36:40
Speaker 1: this season. I believe he leads the league in touch
36:43
Speaker 1: time per game, and he does have a pretty solid
36:46
Speaker 1: pick and roll game with Walker Kessler, which the Blazers
36:49
Speaker 1: are a little bit subper right now. So I think
36:51
Speaker 1: it's a pretty sneaky good spot for Kyante. I think
36:54
Speaker 1: I like him a little bit more than Lori, but
36:56
Speaker 1: I do have Laurie ahead of Kesser. But I like
36:58
Speaker 1: Kessler a lot too. I mean, he's just he's adding
37:01
Speaker 1: so much to his game this season, adding some three pointers,
37:04
Speaker 1: improving as a passer as well, So I think he's
37:06
Speaker 1: kind of in play regardless of matchup.
37:09
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I do think this is another one
37:11
Speaker 3: this Like, I don't think this has the variation that
37:15
Speaker 3: the variables I should say that that Brooklyn Atlanta has.
37:17
Speaker 3: But I do think this is a game where like,
37:19
Speaker 3: because all these guys, you know, for how they're projected
37:25
Speaker 3: right now, probably are a little bit overpriced. I could
37:28
Speaker 3: see playing a lot of them together. I personally think
37:31
Speaker 3: some of them are underpriced based on how I'm projecting them,
37:34
Speaker 3: but based on the industry's projections, I think they're playing
37:37
Speaker 3: some of these guys correlated. It makes a lot of
37:39
Speaker 3: sense and you don't even need like the monster ot
37:43
Speaker 3: game you got with Phoenix in Utah last time out.
37:45
Speaker 3: Just a really competitive game where you're seeing big minutes
37:48
Speaker 3: from the Utah guys and the Portland guys. So definitely
37:52
Speaker 3: in play for me. I don't know if I like
37:54
Speaker 3: it more than some of the games we talked about earlier,
37:57
Speaker 3: but it's at least on that level.
37:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would probably put it behind Atlanta in Brooklyn,
38:03
Speaker 1: but it is probably and probably Indian Dallas too, but
38:06
Speaker 1: I would probably have it even or a little bit
38:09
Speaker 1: better than Sack in Chicago. I think right there with
38:12
Speaker 1: you there. Yeah, awesome. I didn't want to look over
38:15
Speaker 1: the the uh what's called the Portland side though, because
38:19
Speaker 1: I do think that there is some good upside on
38:22
Speaker 1: guys that aren't really getting a lot of ownership. I
38:23
Speaker 1: think Drew is in a great spot here, just it
38:25
Speaker 1: could be a game where he gets He's always a
38:28
Speaker 1: guy that's going to add in the purple stats, but
38:29
Speaker 1: I could see him getting like three or four steals
38:31
Speaker 1: here as well, and then putting him over forty DK points.
38:34
Speaker 1: So I think six point ak pretty goodt tack for
38:36
Speaker 1: him in the role that he has. I think he's
38:38
Speaker 1: second on the team in touchdown first and assist percentage,
38:40
Speaker 1: so looks pretty good there. Same thing for Klingon. I
38:43
Speaker 1: think that he's just a highly talented center that can
38:46
Speaker 1: get it done in any matchup. Do you prefer Kessler
38:48
Speaker 1: a little bit more just I think his minutes are safer,
38:51
Speaker 1: and then Straden Sharp, Denny and Grant and honestly Kamara
38:54
Speaker 1: I would honestly all put in play here as well.
38:57
Speaker 1: Denny is their best player, their most talented player for sure,
39:01
Speaker 1: a little bit too expensive, I would say, just sharing
39:04
Speaker 1: the ball with all these guys. I do like Shandon
39:06
Speaker 1: Sharp to have a bounce back game here, though he's
39:08
Speaker 1: shooting the ball really poorly, but last year had a
39:10
Speaker 1: breakout season Offensively. Jazz are such a poor three point
39:13
Speaker 1: defense and are going to be a really bad transition defense.
39:16
Speaker 1: So two spots, I could see Shandon Sharp really putting
39:19
Speaker 1: up a big scoring number. And then I think Grant
39:22
Speaker 1: is a guy that's going to be projected poorly and
39:25
Speaker 1: overpriced for his role coming off the bench, but he's
39:27
Speaker 1: their best three point shooter, so I kind of like
39:29
Speaker 1: him if anything takes some props two and a half,
39:31
Speaker 1: I think is what I'm seeing on Grand The Oak's
39:33
Speaker 1: pretty good man.
39:34
Speaker 3: I think that the reason Portland is not getting a
39:36
Speaker 3: lot of love is because they've got so many guys
39:39
Speaker 3: and you're not sure who to choose from.
39:41
Speaker 2: For me, it's true how it at the top of
39:44
Speaker 2: the list.
39:45
Speaker 3: And I think everyone else like I'm with you, like
39:48
Speaker 3: this is a benefit of when you're playing one fifty
39:51
Speaker 3: sets like you are, you can get to all these guys.
39:54
Speaker 3: As someone who's playing three lineups, I think tonight Holliday
39:58
Speaker 3: is very likely the only guy I get you from poor,
40:00
Speaker 3: not because I don't like those other guys, just because
40:02
Speaker 3: they don't look better than so many other spots on
40:04
Speaker 3: the slate.
40:05
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent agree there. That's
40:08
Speaker 1: why it's got a good little thing going here, with
40:10
Speaker 1: me being the one fifty guy and you having a
40:12
Speaker 1: tighter player, Bulls, that's a good little, good little deal.
40:15
Speaker 1: We've got. Appreciate the kains word kind of words, Josh,
40:20
Speaker 1: appreciate that a lot. Next game, last game on the slate,
40:24
Speaker 1: we got the game that is most likely to blow
40:26
Speaker 1: out with the Pelicans heading into Denver, and the Pelicans
40:29
Speaker 1: look like the worst team in the West and probably
40:31
Speaker 1: the second worst team in the league behind the Nets
40:33
Speaker 1: right now. And this is team is just a train wreck.
40:35
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're going to do. Is Zion
40:37
Speaker 1: it's gonna I think they probably got to get rid
40:39
Speaker 1: of him, but yeah, I mean they're giving up everything defensively,
40:43
Speaker 1: giving up a ton of threes right now. The room
40:44
Speaker 1: defense is and probably always will be a below average
40:48
Speaker 1: room defense with the current roster iteration that they have.
40:50
Speaker 1: I just don't think Missy is that good of a
40:52
Speaker 1: rim protector. So I could really see this game getting
40:55
Speaker 1: ugly quickly for the Pelicans. Makes it tough. Like if
41:01
Speaker 1: Yokich is not playing his full rotation, can he do
41:05
Speaker 1: enough to get there in three quarters? I would say
41:07
Speaker 1: probably yeah, Like he's done it multiple times in his
41:09
Speaker 1: career and in the same matchup averaging a triple double
41:12
Speaker 1: against the Pelicans. But I'm kind of I don't know,
41:15
Speaker 1: I'm very interested in Jamal Murray right now, just he's
41:19
Speaker 1: really turned it up. I don't know, if you saw
41:22
Speaker 1: the stat about like his October numbers over the last
41:26
Speaker 1: two seasons versus now. But he was averaging like fifteen
41:28
Speaker 1: point eight points per game in October over the last
41:32
Speaker 1: two seasons, and right now he's at like thirty plus.
41:34
Speaker 1: I think that this is just a really, really good
41:36
Speaker 1: spot for him. But I mean, you can't really deny
41:39
Speaker 1: that Denver all around as a team are going to
41:41
Speaker 1: be in a good spot here. I doubt you're going
41:44
Speaker 1: to get to any Pelicans within your single intry three
41:46
Speaker 1: max stuff. But is there anything else that you're seeing
41:48
Speaker 1: that I'm not?
41:49
Speaker 2: I love Jamal here.
41:50
Speaker 3: He might be my favorite player on the shape on
41:53
Speaker 3: the slate. I heard someone say he finally came into shape.
41:56
Speaker 3: I was just about to say he's healthy under eight k,
41:59
Speaker 3: averaging almost fifty Fantasy points per game. When he looks
42:03
Speaker 3: elite here in all formats, you worry less about the
42:07
Speaker 3: blowout with him over Jokic because he's seventy eight hundred
42:10
Speaker 3: where Yokic is full priced eleven to five. That said,
42:14
Speaker 3: you know, Denver plays with their food sometimes, and New
42:17
Speaker 3: Orleans like especially if Zion plays like they could be
42:22
Speaker 3: competitive here, at least competitive enough for Jokic to get
42:24
Speaker 3: full run. If he's in, He's the only guy I
42:28
Speaker 3: would even think about if I'm playing Jokic. I think
42:32
Speaker 3: that adds to the appeal of playing Zion because it
42:34
Speaker 3: goes to the premise of if it's close, you know,
42:37
Speaker 3: you obviously need New Orleans to get there, and Zion
42:39
Speaker 3: is the guy who will do that. If he's out,
42:42
Speaker 3: I'm interested in going back to Fears because he was
42:44
Speaker 3: so chalky last slate. Obviously let us down, let a
42:48
Speaker 3: lot of people down, didn't get a price increase. He
42:51
Speaker 3: shot a ton ball in his hands, a ton He's
42:54
Speaker 3: still only forty five hundred and even in a blow,
42:57
Speaker 3: I think he'll get run, So I like him. If
43:00
Speaker 3: Zion's out, and I think you can go back to
43:02
Speaker 3: Trey Murphy kind of in the same premise you would
43:04
Speaker 3: play Zion. We're like, if it's competitive, it's gonna be
43:07
Speaker 3: Trey Murphy. You as a big game, so it'd be
43:09
Speaker 3: the same guy as Fears and Murphy. I don't think
43:11
Speaker 3: their priorities. I love Jamal and then Yolks Jokic.
43:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could not agree more there. I do like
43:17
Speaker 1: the Trey Murphy call. Decent matchup for him. He's kind
43:20
Speaker 1: of been ice cold to start the season shooting the
43:22
Speaker 1: ball as well. But I think that this could be
43:23
Speaker 1: a spot where if the game is close, he's probably
43:26
Speaker 1: a big reason why surprisingly leading the Pelicans and potential
43:30
Speaker 1: assists just kind of add more upside to his game,
43:32
Speaker 1: doing a little bit more than he was in the
43:34
Speaker 1: past couple of season as just like an off ball guy. Yeah,
43:38
Speaker 1: so I definitely definitely could see him having a pretty
43:41
Speaker 1: solid night here. We've got our Nuggets insider. Triskett says
43:44
Speaker 1: that Nuggets don't take bad teams seriously. Yeah, definitely agree there.
43:49
Speaker 1: That would be kind of the ideal spot if you
43:51
Speaker 1: are playing at Jokich or Jamal where the game is
43:53
Speaker 1: like twelve fifteen points, they're going back and forth a
43:56
Speaker 1: little bit and they never get really poled just because
43:57
Speaker 1: it's kind of close. But not.
44:00
Speaker 2: Denversus bench always stinks.
44:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they definitely I like what they did this offseason.
44:07
Speaker 1: But for sure, I mean they if Kim Johnson's out,
44:10
Speaker 1: that does hurt their death a little bit because it's
44:12
Speaker 1: not it's not great like Joe val is an upgrade
44:15
Speaker 1: to what they had last year. Bruce Brown is a
44:17
Speaker 1: little bit of an upgrade, but although he's probably not
44:20
Speaker 1: the player that he once was, but Tim Hardway Junior
44:22
Speaker 1: I think is a solid bench piece. But yeah, it's
44:24
Speaker 1: not great by any means. So those non Jokic minutes
44:27
Speaker 1: could go pretty poorly. So I definitely think that you'd
44:29
Speaker 1: want Zion to be in which it sounds like he
44:32
Speaker 1: will be if you're if you're playing like a joker, Jamal, Yeah.
44:37
Speaker 3: To your point, though, it is better than it's been
44:39
Speaker 3: in years past. I do also really like the additions
44:41
Speaker 3: and subtractions they made here, and I see Avery as
44:45
Speaker 3: zavala is asking Murray or Lowry one hundred dollars apart.
44:49
Speaker 3: I like Larry a lot here, but for me it's
44:52
Speaker 3: I mean, Murray might be my favorite play on the slate.
44:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm with you on that one. Just
44:58
Speaker 1: double checking on chatsea, I I really missed anything, but yeah,
45:02
Speaker 1: we got through this one pretty quickly. Nice little seven
45:04
Speaker 1: games late tonight. I don't know if you've got any
45:07
Speaker 1: closing thoughts here, otherwise I'll get us out of here.
45:11
Speaker 2: Uh No, I don't leave this enough time.
45:13
Speaker 3: I got a box of Frozen Tops cards to open
45:17
Speaker 3: with my three year old daughter, So fun stuff over here.
45:20
Speaker 1: Awesome, sounds like a great time. Hopefully you pull.
45:22
Speaker 2: Some some good time one on one.
45:25
Speaker 1: There you go. Now, I'm not the card guy, but
45:27
Speaker 1: I know we got a few guys. Our guy, Penseac
45:29
Speaker 1: is a pretty big into the cards. I don't know
45:31
Speaker 1: if he reached out to you, but I know we
45:33
Speaker 1: got some some big card guys in the discord. But yeah,
45:38
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. Everyone. Good luck tonight and I'll
45:42
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow night. I believe we got an eight
45:45
Speaker 1: pm stream for the Saber series. We kind of touched
45:49
Speaker 1: on mine not a little bit at the top of
45:51
Speaker 1: the show. If he's starting, gonna be pretty good, but
45:53
Speaker 1: would not be surprised.
45:54
Speaker 2: If he's not.
45:54
Speaker 3: Certainly, Yeah, I just at four K. Also, like he's
45:59
Speaker 3: got a twenty five percent price increase. Yeah, I can't.
46:03
Speaker 3: I'm not interested there, Like he got their last game,
46:05
Speaker 3: but I don't think he's gonna be a guy that
46:08
Speaker 3: like I think this is the peak of his pricing.
46:10
Speaker 1: Personally, I think I agree with you there. This is
46:12
Speaker 1: a different matchup too, Like you know, I don't think
46:15
Speaker 1: we're gonna be getting a double double from him.
46:16
Speaker 2: Again.
46:17
Speaker 1: They were playing New Orleans, so it's a different spot here.
46:19
Speaker 1: I'd probably be off of mine, not even if he
46:21
Speaker 1: is starting. Let let everybody else chase the big game.
46:25
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it. Good luck everyone, See
46:27
Speaker 1: you guys on Friday back with Hamwich and then tomorrow
46:30
Speaker 1: night for the same series.
46:31
Speaker 5: See you later still.
47:03
Speaker 4: And as mother and STI