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ASS Alliance Open for Sign Ups or Double Elimination has Been Eliminated · Archons Corner

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I'm an husband. I'm an husband. Hello, this is Josh with Ghost
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Galaxy and you're listening to the podcast The Dreams of Electric Sheep our CON's corner.
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All right, what's going on everybody? I am the one, the
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only, the w oh okay I joined here by We actually have all the
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misfits today. We have Big Zoo, we have Sick cor Oh that's me.
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Yeah, that's guys. We got our resident PhD Doctor sheep Rop,
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the ewokst of Ewoks Ewok Jr. Hello, Key Borge community and the tallest
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and the tallest pick me southerly off. Lots to go over today, tons
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of stuff. Let's start it out with our big event, ASS Alliance shape
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tell us about as science. We have an ASS Alliance coming up. So
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ASS Alliance. I do not agree with this name. I want it stated
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again and again putting on an event. Why do you not like the Anti
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Survival Sealed Alliance? Yeah, I am fine with Anti Sealed Survival Alliance.
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So then appreciate the acronym. No, I don't appreciate. I don't appreciate
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an acronym just tasteful. It's like any other acronym. It's just three words.
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Three letters tell us when our audience can come get some ass. How
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do we fill up those ass alliance? I'm so sorry, key forgers over
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here come. So I have twenty four pre release kits right the bullbox,
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three packs and fancy chain track random ready to go to our listeners and whoever
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else wants to sign up. Forty dollars entry gets you that pre release pack.
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Check out the posts to the Google set. It has all kinds of
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prizes. We got lots of prizes. They even have the chance to win
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a box of mm oh pretty good prizes and a jersey and an AC jersey's
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up for whoever wins the event. So it's all kinds of cool prizes available
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and then a customized AC jersey. Yes where September tenth, at one pm
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We're gonna play and our alliance format is you're gonna have your nine or your
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three decks nine houses to pick from. You build one, you build an
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alliance, you play it, and if you win your game, you've got
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to survival style lose one of your three if you win or lose your game.
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If you win your game, you have to give up one year three
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pods called pods. So if I win, so if I win, I
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lose a pod. Yes, that's why it's called anti survival. Should have
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read the rules a little better. Speaking of jerseys, jerseys are in so
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if you order the jerseys, talk to Flag down Ewak cross Ewak. He
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will be in Roseville this weekend handing them out, So if you ordered one,
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that's where they'll be. I have them. They're looking good. I
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wore well. I brought it in on Tuesday, and I did not get
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the respect I need from my locals, thank you sheep. But they still
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they look great, so I'm excited to pass them out to everyone. See
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him on, So make sure you join our ass alliance and get your shirt.
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If you order one, we will more than likely be doing I don't
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know if we're gonna do another batch another run. We might go with a
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different company. Jr's fit him perfectly. Damn you, JR. I don't
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know why yours fit perfectly. Mine did not, but you know it is
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what it is. I think once you get to the bigger sizes, they
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kind of went a little crazy. So all right, two l Oh play
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style two l Oh is here. I'm gonna leave this one to Z since
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he is the most excited about it. Hallelujah, Halleluluja. I can't add.
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The hallelujah is that if you're doing them, no, we gotta do
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them. Everybody's good. You could keep going. We are so thankful that
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this is happening. I will say it again, hallelujah. This is Z's
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segment. So yeah, I have been pretty much shouting from every rooftop I
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can find in every four of my gain saying how horrible double eimination is and
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it's just not a thing used in anything where you know, people that know
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what that they're doing run events. So with lots of feedback, Gigi has
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decided to change away from double elimination events starting right now. So Suckers said,
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at some point, you don't think anything will change until twenty twenty four,
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and I said, I would not stop screaming about this until it changed.
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So here we are. Thank thank you, But this needs to be
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said, thank you Gigi for responding before this Vault Tour season is over,
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because it was horrendous to play in and I know that there's already tis of
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that. I won't make it to a top eight anymore as a result,
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but just thank you that we're all able to play key forage and we have
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that one person or you know, very very few people who are going to
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have buy so listen. Yes, so here, here here's my here's my
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here's my redeeming statement. Here. How many people showed up to Alliance for
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KFC? How many people were talking about right now? It does? Well?
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It does? And just let me finish my thought. I don't remember
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what it was. I think it was something like twenty was at KFC for
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Alliance? Yes? No, maybe so it was more than that. Uh,
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bad podcasting, bad podcasting, doom scrolling. I don't remember how many
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were if you know when the chat, let us know how many were at?
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What numberre you looking for? How many Alliance players were at KFC?
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Why? Oh, okay, that was early? That was that was probably
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the biggest tournament that there's been for Alliance. And how many showed up in
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face for a segment? No, how many showed up? How many showed
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up in Philly? So there was like I think it, I think it
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was. I know it was under thirty. I thought it was like twenty.
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So we've had two really poor show outs for Alliance. Yeah, that
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is still a thing. What would make me think that they'd go, yeah,
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this is a bad thing and not just trying to keep playing out double
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elimination and being like, no, this is perfectly fine. Everything's fine here
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now. But they didn't, and we need to give them credit for that
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because it was a bad player experience. They're getting a lot of feedback.
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Ze thank you for going ahead and shouting it from the rooftops, and thank
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you Gigi for making it right, because yes, Swiss has some issues,
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but the end result is people want to play games and those issues can be
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modified or issues. Does Swiss have read this sweet article that is there are
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there are some with yours about them on our cast, so we Swiss?
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Yeah, we are aware, but it's not he doesn't listen to this.
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I don't. I don't listen to this ship show. Are you kidding?
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The sweared are is very live tonight. Yes, to the point, the
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tournament style is changing. It is not Swiss, it's not Double elimination is
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actually something that is a little new. All of us here are super thankful
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that it is happening. Yes, it is going to be a different player
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experience. There still is going to be a point where the certain number of
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people will be awarded day two inside the Swiss bracket, well the Swiss like
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brackets, so those people will graduate and then the remainder will play through.
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Now I said way along, so like the initial suggestion we said wasn't match
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exactly with this two LL format, because as I said, there was going
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to be some kind of like weirdness where Breakers come into play in my original
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suggestion, and that's going to happen here, and they found a different way
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to approach that which should mitigate the number of feels bad per event or like
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possible feels bad because at some point Breakers is going to determine an X one
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that would be eliminated based on strinth the schedule, which is part of the
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swist, so that we'll get to see in Minnesota this weekend, in Seattle
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next weekend. But in the end, as I said in my post,
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as I said on the cast, one or two feels bad's moment per event
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is a hell of a lot better than eighty five feels bad experiences in every
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event, because that is that's where we were. So yeah, I am
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very appreciative that they changed in the middle of twenty three and not waiting to
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twenty four which is very heads up on their part. So I'm looking forward
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to enjoin and having fun in the rest of the Vault season. I actually
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am with JR. I know he like briefly alluded to this. This actually
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does hurt my chances the top cut moving four, but I think it's a
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net gain for the entire Key, for its community, and that's fine if
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I don't make top cut. I've been two tons of Vaults and not make
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top cut. And guess what, I continued to go the tons of Vaults
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because it was a fun, enjoyable experience and I look forward to having a
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great time in Minnesota whether I make Day two or not. I thought you
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kept going to get number one on the pointless ranking system. That was not
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my motivation. That is just where I went up. I played more than
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everybody else. She we don't talk about Bruno round here, okay, but
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he he is the longest stustrating number one player in the world. It will
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it will never go away. Man, three years, three years running number
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one, and I still got I did actually get as to answer me,
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answer me, and they are giving me jet shit. Thank you for your
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I feel like I need a button that's just as Jr. Saying thank you
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for your donation. Every time there's a cussoord, I guess it was.
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I gotta be fair to ask it was not asthey, it was actually ft
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and they did finally answer me and said f asthma d same thing. So
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I will say that Europe and the rest of the world still seems to be
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dealing with quite a bit for key Forge. So my heart goes out to
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everyone there. No, they're not. They have nothing. They're dealing with
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nothing still, dude, That's that's why I'm saying they're not in a good
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spot. Okay, so how could you be that softy about something you don't
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even have because everyone else has it and it doesn't feel left out. But
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anyway, they should be happy over there because every single one of them has
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the option to move to the United States. Okay, well this is really
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sing. All I was trying to say is that all of our European vaults
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that are going to happen, you will have our new to l O standing
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for two losses in your out. You'll have that system in place instead of
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going ahead and needing the double elimination. So that is a huge win that
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you never got to suffer and again, thank you Gigi for making it right
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and allowing us to be able to try something different. I'm giving them.
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It's all about looking at the positive. What is the positive that is there?
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I'm gonna get shut again this week. We're not going to go and
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that we should be moving to Europe so we can avoid the woe meta.
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M hmm, No, because I've seen the sales there there. The woe
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decks are moving there too, like you can't escape it. Yeah, they're
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gonna get all the wood woe decks because that's just how this works. Haven't
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you looked at any other the decks. It always becomes the Italians who get
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like just straight fire in their cases for whatever reason. Well, no,
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Dick Rowland's gonna buy every tiny plus that woe deck that goes on sale and
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then provide it to everyone in Europe so they have it. Before we move
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on to two llo. There's not actually much to talk about this. We'll
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have a lot more to talk about after we see it to run next week
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next week's cast when we report on that. But they did actually, if
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you're really interested in, like what I was talking about is how the breakers
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work. They did a really good job making a graphic that clearly kind of
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shows that as I recently tried to explain what too double elimination and what swiss
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was on a Facebook post. There's a lot that it goes into, actually
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like educating people about tournament formulas, and they're like their drill down article,
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which breaks down the entire two LLO tournament style is a very very well made.
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It was probably one of the better explanatory things I've ever read regarding tournament
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structures. So I appreciated reading that. It was fun to see the time
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and effort to get that right because I know exactly how much time and effort
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that takes. It is very hard to playing that stuff. I like seeing
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their full employee list. Sorry you came in ninth, Josh. I actually
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didn't know about this, uh this article till this moment because this article hit
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when I was super out of it being sick. So now I just clicked
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through. This does look pretty cool. Yeah, there these two graphics that
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they made are really good as far as wait a minute, there's nine employees
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at Yeah, how you think they're just making up stuff? I think this
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Will and Scott are like, I mean, they gotta they gotta go on
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the rancor. Well, we know Janet's number one. It's always like R
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Jason is that Jay Power? Like they just he won so many things,
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they just put him up there. He's just on he's on the staff honorary
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employee board of Directors. Now poor Josh is going ahead and listing over in
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the background here, Yeah, I know that you you've made nine, but
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you're at least a solid eight in my heart. So yeah, man,
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hey, but but if you, if you run second number a little bit
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better, we could probably bump that up to seven a little bit a little
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bit, I mean, like they could actually run it instead of just let
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it be over there in the corner like a Pokemon lead. So I didn't
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wonder with this new format with if if this will naturally cause more traction there.
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I don't know, right, because one of the things that we talked
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about, like when we're into the live is I think what you're saying,
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like, because as there it's a double elimination. You know, when people
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are going to hit events. Because we ran Live as a survival style,
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we knew mathematically when people dropped out, we could actually fire other events.
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So like, I want something actually else on top of second number. On
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event day like Saturday, they should have another event you could pay for to
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play in, starting around on like two o'clock or something. They will have
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enough players away from gig to make money. What yeah, we should just
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ask for our cut now. Well, so they'll definitely be able to run
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sealed pods easier at game Center because game Center can sell us backs, where
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the whole thing at had the other vaults is weird because of their weird distribution
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contract. Great, yeah, I mean we bought decks at Philly. Yeah,
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we definitely did and that, but it's just they didn't give their palette
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so that it was all awkward, right, stick it to ASTHMA day and
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they're stupid contract. Where do they get Like like legitimately you could run like
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a twenty to forty percent arc on events starting at three o'clock that would go
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four rounds of normal Swiss and like give the top four another Master Vault deck
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or something like. People would pay five to ten to the plane an arkind
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event that's very easy to set up, very easy to run, and it
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mostly maintains itself. Yep, But join us next week where we rank all
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the gg staff members, just just staying I figure out if these people are
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even read. Well, Janet's number one, I didn't see her on a
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list. Everybody Janet always exist. Yeah, she probably doesn't, but you
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know, maybe that's why she doesn't answer emails. Yeah, we can weird
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story, but yeah, I think we should rank them all. I forgot
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to add Jeremy on my listings last time, and I think we'll just keep
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it that way. How could demand the legend, the myth, the legend?
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Jeremy number five in the rankings? But all right, Z score website
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suddenly tell us about the website. Yeah, things are going well with the
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website. I don't know what do you want me to say. I don't
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know it's on the sheet. I thought this was your segment. No,
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this is probably what you watch. Just added. No, you want to
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tell us about the website. What do you know that we don't we have
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a Z score website. It is live, guys. I mean honestly,
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this was not me. But the end result is there's been a lot of
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time. Wait wait, wait, wait, it is definitely not live.
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This put us in. I didn't put this on the sheet. I did
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not either. This is marketing solid progress towards dropbetter dot cards, becoming a
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live website. You will all be able to come to enjoy. Look forward
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to that in a future cast next. Al Right, see, we've done
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so much work on the backside. I know it's so much more than that,
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though. Yes, we were talking about Yeah, hate you guys,
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all, every one of you. I mean you were the one right in
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the list. I don't know why we added that on it. So you
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all right, predictions nationals predictions. Yeah, hey, guess what our GG
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staff when I had to input out information about gen Con today? Perfect timing.
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So article, say, Matt, was a whole team effort. So
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what you're telling me is y'all failed as a conglomerate. Got it? Article?
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That was a good That was a good article. That was a good
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article. Good we were talking about me, I know, we were talking
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about the two elo for gen Con, the Genkin results released today, and
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that really helped us with our information because you know, AC is all about
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data and having precise information. We're about making up numbers and get of it.
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All right, what do we got, guys? Ark on Field?
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All right, so yep z you go, Okay, the actual percentage for
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woe. Arc on engin con was thirty five percent, coming in kind of
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high, but not as high as my crazy prediction. I had forty five.
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Draft score is the winner from the show at thirty three percent, two
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points off. Good Elf was right behind him at thirty two, and I
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think I Jr. And me were the most wrong, being at forty five
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and twenty What are these random numbers in our ship? Wait? Wait wait
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wait yes, yeah, the numbers that are in our sheet don't match the
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numbers you are saying. This is all you're you're looking at the l You're
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looking at the next of it. You have to scroll down from wow because
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it's the last one, all right, Yeah, m M. We had
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some percentages. We were predicted for the m M percentage in the field because
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it used to be the meta king. Actual was only twenty one percent,
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so it's actually fallen quite a bit. A lot of us did lower predictions
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because we boosted whow up, wookey, you win it you yeah, two
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points off. I'm lucky. I was right, I know, and that
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leaves, of course, forty four percent as the remaining field drazz again within
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two you're ye. So at some point I feel like the largest percentage is
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going to be Whoa. Maybe it'll be in Minnesota, maybe it'll be in
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Seattle, but I think, I mean surely by September events, we're gonna
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see the Whoa take take the lead here. So what I what I actually
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saw that was really interesting from this infograph was called the Archives dropping all the
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way down to twelve percent. That was a big change, in my opinion,
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from what I saw at Philly. So the difference between Philly to gen
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Con huge drop in what I was seeing for called the Archons. Not only
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did it drop at twelve percent, like we know four of those decks our
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Galaxy, Fraud, Donovan, and Minity, that might be the twelve percent
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I was gonna like, it's not that like Coda dropped down to a low
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percent. It's basically if you're not playing a deck that has won something top
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tier, not playing Coda, how was a waste? Till at nine point
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one percent, apologist was there was there a Jenka in the Archon field?
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Not that I saw. I heard of a Jenka being played in the Archon
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field, But I don't perfect track. I'm gonna go back and check my
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notes. But I actually thought I had played ones. I do need to
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look at that what was interesting to me. So when we look at sixty
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six, I know some people are like, ooh, you only got sixty
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six. Please please, please please know that gen Con was capped, so
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that was a capped events. There were seventy five tickets that were sold.
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We did have seventy five If I'm okay, that's a whole different section.
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Well, but I think it's relevant because when people are looking at it as
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you know how many different individuals. Yes, it was less than the vaults,
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but it was a capped event, so seventy two. It did sell
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out for our coon, but then we had sixty six players that actually showed
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up, So keep that in mind. It was restricted. It wasn't a
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matter of that. It was just an open field that you could take as
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many people as possible. All right, moving on, move into the top
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eight for our con. We had a prediction for Woe MM and other.
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The actual wodex was three sol and me hit it on the head three boo,
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which is actually a pretty strong conversion right too, because if you look
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at thirty five percent of the field was well and then three eights of you
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know, thirty eight percent is the ARCon So that's actually pretty solidly represented as
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far as you know transitioning as far as going up, that was pretty cool.
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MM was two in the top eights, two on the cast here and
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JR. Hit that perfectly. You're the only one that said too, and
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you got it right on the notes. Good job in that leaves three as
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the others, and they, I believe were what Coda and Worlds Collide were
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that it was. Actually it was Donovan, Fraud and Shock those were the
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three others in Wolke and Draft Corpse said exactly three. Yay for Wilkeie Draft
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car Yeah. And we didn't ask this for Minnesota, but we asked what
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the winning set would be. Wookie and me not only said the World's Collide,
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we named the winning deck. Yeah, Jacq was our winner of the
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ARCon National champion. I do think that Corey played, Yeah, Jack is
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very very well and Nova played amazingly well, So congrats on the US national
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win. I do think that Corey also played very very well, and I
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would have liked to have seen a little bit more up for grabs outs because
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they both qualified as soon as they made one and two. But I don't
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know. I just thought in that matchup, that's the wo deck stood a
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little better chance than it ended up firing out. But oh I didn't,
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not at all. Again, that's where it's very very it's very very interesting
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matchup. So I think there were other decks in the top eight that would
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have beat Chock, but I do think they were like three decks in the
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top eight the head zero chance to beat Chock, especially at the best of
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three, and that just happened to be one of the ones that fed up
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there. All right, we have the number of people that showed up for
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our con. We had a prediction on this. The maximum was seventy two.
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We in the end found out, so we have two winners for this.
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The actual was sixty six, but it was actually kind of sixty four,
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So Wookie you, I'm giving you a win for perfection even though it
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didn't end at sixty four. Four. All right, So here's what happened.
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Seventy two people bought tickets to gen Con National Championship parkon sixty four of
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them showed up and registered for the event before the event started, so it
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was at sixty four. They then accepted two walk ups who could buy into
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the event because they had open slots. So I'm giving Wookie for the actual
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perfect on the nose sixty four because that is the exact number of people that
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showed up, and then after you account for the sixty six added Jr.
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Would have been the closest at sixty seven. So I'm giving y'all a shared
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victory here. Yeah, shared victories about that came out, so and then
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the rest of us, we're actually I was a little close. I was
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the next. I was at sixty nine, and then draft Wars Sheep and
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now we're way off. Why did they say drafts like who people are gone?
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I think he was thinking there's too much to do with the con.
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Maybe people just want to go see things. Yeah. I did have a
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great time doing various things. Was at gen Con. It was my first
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gen Con. One of my favorite things was getting COVID. That was the
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best, you know, core experiences. That's lively. That's the take home
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bag. That's we did. We did have a great time going out after
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we will have to we'll have to talk about that support. Yeah. Unfortunately,
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gen Con did hit its largest amount of individuals who showed up for gen
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Con, which was seventy thousand people. Well, but you saw some people
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with masks, and it is something to be aware of. So I appreciate
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anyone who did feel sick, who stayed home where kind of went elsewhere.
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Clearly that did not happen if everyone clo but everyone didn't, but still some
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people did, and so that's what's unfortunate. But for anyone who's secret and
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we were just stop licking things when he goes around places, like, if
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we could just get him to stop doing that, I think he'd be fine.
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I thought I got COVID from that sheep we rode. That's where I
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thought I got I did not have COVID at gen Cone. None of the
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one we were riding. Which one the white sheep or the black sheep?
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I thought the white one. Okay, I guess it was a black one,
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as there was a black one. That one happened at night that was
29:22
actually the black one. Was actually the white one, but after everybody touched
29:26
it, a turn black. So they're in different locations. There was a
29:30
lot of drinking. It probably rode there followed us. Oh my goodness.
29:33
Probably all right, I think this next one is the most interesting thing.
29:37
Let's go into alliance oh, actually, one thing before we get that,
29:41
how many you're stoking? You're stoking this book? I know how the most
29:45
interesting Come on, No, no, I want. I just wanted to
29:48
know real quick because we have a really good chart and it would make for
29:52
bad radio if I didn't say how many vault Master decks showed up? Two
29:56
are con Oh none? No, not a one? Huh anyways, not
30:00
like a real set guy. It's tournament legal and okay, and it showed
30:10
up. I was t t what was there? ADT deck there at one
30:15
point five? It's clearly the better choice. And wat Masters yeah, and
30:22
even up prison was known to have one of the top bault Masters decks that
30:26
we know of, was there, yep, and chose not to play it
30:30
and chose not to play it Aliance. The data was kind of weird.
30:36
We actually can't know if our percentage predictions were correct whoa MM or other because
30:42
we don't have data on that. We have. Thirty eight point five percent
30:48
of the decks played were unknown. I have no idea why they went because
30:52
play styles went down? No, okay, So so see I actually thought
30:59
about this early ELI, and I'm not one hundred percent sure, but my
31:03
guests as to why it's unknown is because the cards that would be in there
31:08
could have like if if they have cards, they could have fallen into multiple
31:11
different sets. I don't honestly know to be one set. I see it
31:18
as the same as well. And I think he's saying like, because Eddie's
31:21
in, well, are sorry? Eddie is in winds of Exchange and it's
31:23
in mass mutations, So there was no way to determine what set that.
31:30
Okay, what did I say? I meant to say worlds collide, but
31:34
I don't know what I see. I have no efforts through how you would
31:38
not know what percentage of decks were what? But they're little here? Does
31:45
say thirty eight point five percent is unknown? So maybe thirty eight point five
31:48
percent was vault Master. I don't know. I think, audience member,
31:53
do you have any insight for me as to why we would have because I
31:57
mean, it is the largest number that is on this list too, which
32:01
is a little alarming for a LISS. Further confounding that they know like how
32:06
many cards came in because we have Alliance data for card use. I don't
32:13
know how you would not like have that data and not have I don't think
32:16
any of the Alliance data is probably fully accurate. Right. The counts are
32:22
based off of the decks. They do know that we're registered, okay,
32:28
so on registered decks are just not really accounted for. That would be my
32:34
guests on what's going on there. I yeah. But so basically all of
32:38
that we don't know. But we can talk about the top eight Alliance as
32:42
far as what they were, and we can also tell how many people played
32:47
Alliance, yes, which we didn't predict on that, but it was thirty
32:55
nine. We had thirty nine players in the end that played Alliance, which
33:00
is I think that is many from Yeah, I think that's I think that's
33:04
actually the highest amount that I have seen for Alliance from KFC from Philly and
33:09
then here for gen Con, which is I mean, so there's a couple
33:14
of reasons why I see that as being higher. I think that it was
33:17
a separate day from Arcons. You could play an ARCon at gen Con and
33:21
one day and you could play an Alliance on a different day. Unfortunately,
33:25
a couple of us who did qualify for top eight for ARCon did choose to
33:29
back out. I'm gonna tell you, I had an Alliance deck. I
33:31
was looking forward to it, but it was really awkward. No, you
33:37
didn't. It was in my house. Well, technically I brought a backup
33:40
deck even for that Z. So yes, yes, I know that you
33:44
had left the other pod there. I was so confident in you making ARCon
33:49
I didn't even bring that shit. Okay, so you're not bringing a deck
33:52
for for Minnesota either. For me, I'm just gonna go ahead and well,
33:58
I mean, if if that worked last time, we just gotta repeat
34:00
it, right, Okay, Anyway, he doesn't understand where I'm following.
34:05
But for Alliance here, I think the idea for two separate days is really
34:10
good for all of our international individuals who are running their nationals. Just give
34:15
access to people to be able to have another top two that can make it
34:19
two worlds. As someone who made Top eight, it was a little bit
34:23
of feel bad because if I play an Alliance, I have a chance to
34:30
ruin someone's day, ruin a teammate's day, or if I get all the
34:36
way to the ends, then not be able to play in both of them,
34:39
and I'm gonna keep someone else out. It was not a there was
34:43
nothing to be gained by playing an alliance, and so a couple of us
34:46
play an alliance plump. Well again, I like alliance. No, I
34:53
disagree about that. It's just it's not there is no win win on that
34:59
scenario. So Sheep Nova and I did Drinking Man, and then there was
35:04
just no way I was going to play useful key Forge. Okay, well
35:07
I did not go ahead and commit to that. I could have played,
35:09
but I just it's it didn't seem right, and so it was easier to
35:15
back out. So, yes, you would have seen a few more individuals
35:17
three that could have potentially been higher. But I like the idea of it
35:22
being on a different day. I think that brings some more individuals just to
35:24
play key Forts. Is a different way of playing key Forts. Not everyone
35:28
enjoys it, I hear you, Sheep, but some people do. And
35:32
for those individuals who are passionate about it, you know, I think about
35:38
Sydney, I think about Jay, I think about some people who are very
35:45
very vocal about it. It is a different format, so I like that
35:51
it is available. That may not be the stance on all of the ac
35:53
cast here, but we had thirty nine individuals and what ended up happening from
35:59
here because I think some of the data for even the top ten cards was
36:01
interesting. And what other sets showed up? That's you? Uh, yeah,
36:13
I'm here. So we're talking about the Alliance next. Ye all right?
36:20
So yeah, we have the top eight, the top eight for woe.
36:25
Some people had four prediction the actual there were two WOW decks in the
36:30
top eight for Alliance. I was the only one that said too, So
36:32
I'm not sure where I pulled that number from, but I got it.
36:37
So as far as MM goes, there was also two several of us that
36:42
said too for MM, Sheep, Wookie, and Elf. Good job on
36:45
that in that put four others, so we were actually getting quite a bit
36:52
of non MM non woe in the top AOA ended up winning that unknown set.
37:01
Uh. None of the unknown set made a topic crushing it. That
37:07
was not the way to go. Stay away from unknowns. Don't don't choose
37:09
that to bring to the vault usally for Alliance. And then we had oh
37:16
this got mixed in the ark On data the number of DT decks in ARCon
37:21
Wait, what was the winning set in an alliance? Oh, the wedding
37:23
set in the Alliance was actually away and Sheep was the only one to put
37:29
it sheep for all the wrong reasons he was betting on. I don't think
37:35
it was the person you thought it would be. But uh, well,
37:39
how do you how do you feel about this bookie? Because what's your card
37:43
made it? And you just lit up like a firework man? My card
37:47
made it? What do you mean? Oh? Yeah? What? What
37:50
was a key important part of this Awa Jenca build? I won't say it.
37:54
I don't know because I don't I didn't know of the depression arts of
38:00
the forest. Ah, it was like that. Yes, it was so
38:08
dumb, love it, but it did. It did keep people who did
38:15
not have hard are It allowed that deck to just be able to do what
38:20
it wanted to, which was forged three keys in a turn and build up
38:23
to that point. Yeah, Jay Power made top table yet again and was
38:30
not able to overcome I think it was O two like his double double loss,
38:36
and he also lost to the same deck in the double elimination Day one.
38:43
So like as at the moment, the only three losses I've ever seen
38:46
Jason have in OP is to that deck. I'm a little disappointed that none
38:52
of the none of the alliance links work. Maybe it's just me and maybe
38:58
I got to refresh my cookies out there. Ghost never mind, I'm gonna
39:00
say because for a while there I was on like I would click Alliance and
39:04
it would just load and load and load and load. But now it's working,
39:07
so it just takes a while and we are unable to see the top
39:13
Alliance deck. I guess it's got all the pods in there, so you
39:17
can, Yeah, you're picking the pod and you're looking at it from pod
39:21
right, but like if you look, okay, so Aviator's deck just has
39:23
logos, mars and teams. You have to pick the pod almost every other
39:28
one. Oh I see there's another one on here. It doesn't do it.
39:30
So at that pod, click on the Alliance. I understand how to
39:35
do it, Like you click on the pod, like this is the logos
39:37
pod from this deck, Like we know why that was. Like while we're
39:40
at the event, some of the master vaults weren't sinking with their friends and
39:45
they were just having them show that they had their friends in their list,
39:50
that their pod was in their friends list, and the day they did that.
39:53
So the ones that are separated are because of that, and the ones
39:57
that are Alliance is because they were actually able to do it. We know
40:00
they're working on that. That's part of the new basketball ownership. There where
40:07
did we leave off? Are we on DDT decks? I did actually see
40:12
that someone would bring a dark tidy zec and predicted one. There was one
40:16
person that brought a DT deck in ARCon. I don't think there was any
40:22
intellance. So is it one divided by sixty four? Is it? There
40:25
was actually one in both so had two point six percent. So technically the
40:31
way we did this last time, Wookie is the winner because there were two.
40:38
There were two manx played because there were two events and one was played
40:44
in each Et des ARCon. It was this was just I was robbed.
40:53
I was robbed for one. We did it, but yeah it was Wookie.
41:00
It was the actual winner. Two total dark targets. I'm really upset
41:06
I lost the next one. I thought I nailed this number, but and
41:09
then yes, I added up the total number of infurnaces from both events,
41:13
just like we did with for Philly. The number of infurnaces played between all
41:19
key Forge decks was added up to thirty four. When she hit on the
41:23
money good, I feel like price is right that I just went over by
41:29
a penny, and I am really really sad about this. This is salty
41:34
over here. Jr's right there at thirty five, I was way low drast
41:37
course, forty five draft, I thought you sent and furnaces, we're gonna
41:44
be played. Nine people are gonna show up, and they were just gonna
41:50
play with all of every decades. Was like, forty nine people are gonna
41:57
play it. Every deck will have every deck as it in furness all this
42:00
all day, baby, oh baby, even though that thirty three of them
42:06
are whoa, that's just a lot of legacy. A legacy man's right is
42:14
that chain deck that's the unnamed set, and they are not allowed to take
42:20
a win for the next category. Everyone else gets the win. You get
42:25
the win for the next all right, we said double elimination or not,
42:30
and it was I was wronged, but I love no I think I went
42:37
on this. I said gen Con was too soon. But after jen Cons
42:40
the next vaults, it will be a different system. I feel robbed in
42:45
our predictions that are coming up because I already filled out my information and some
42:50
individuals in the cast, not naming people did it after it was announced that
42:55
it was already done. So and I don't I know who you are.
43:00
I know who you was before. Now this is before the announcement came up.
43:05
This was for gen Con, not not not Roosevelt, No, no,
43:08
but what we're gonna get to Roosevelt. Yeah, I filled mine out
43:12
before all the announcements too. It was the first one, all right,
43:15
winner for our con alliance. The actual was Nova predicted as we mentioned earlier
43:22
by Wookie and me, the alliance was Aviator. Nobody predicted Aviator. So
43:31
Jason led a bunch of people down who had the most wins out of everything?
43:39
Did you total that up or not? No? I'm not doing that
43:43
all right. E Walk is the only one that can answer the next one
43:45
though. There was three predictions on what percentage of games for Ewalk wins time.
43:52
So all of you are horrible, My love hunt you all down.
43:59
I know you take notes on every game you played. How many of them
44:04
went to time? How many games did you play? All right? Round
44:07
number one I did not play. There were only four players. There was
44:12
a way time for tech issues. Round number two I did not go to
44:16
time. That was a three zero win against storm Strong. We then had
44:21
to report games to hqu because of issues of tech a little faster. We're
44:27
not looking for the recap. How many games went to a good tide thirty
44:31
three, fifty five or seventy five? Just give us the number one,
44:38
one one, and how you started here? Wait, only one game month
44:45
of time. It's amazing two two and there was one by and another Realm
45:01
that I didn't play, So that would have put us at two out of
45:05
seven. So two out of seven is twenty eight percent, so that I
45:09
win. I was the closest at thirty nicely Dodd twenty eight point five.
45:19
I would also like it known that, uh, in this time, whoa
45:23
was one of those factors whoa whoa? Games go along man, So there
45:28
was nothing else and there's nothing else can do. There is no factor.
45:34
We were in a casual setting yesterday and I was about to call for a
45:37
judge, and I would have responded, simmer down over there, simmer I
45:43
bet the deck was in English. I have the judge. You sit down,
45:50
all right, So now we can discuss our Minnesota predictions without people tainting
45:54
each other's. Yeah, and for the first time we have I So I
46:02
averaged up the Patreon's submissions. So if you want to get in on some
46:08
predictions, you can join our Patreon group and then you get to predict in
46:13
advance with the rest of us. There's other things coming too, so you
46:16
should totally do Patreon. Hint, hint, n nice as some money,
46:24
all right, all this stuff is I love she now. So we got
46:32
the rcon field. So while predictions draft cords at forty I wish I would
46:42
have known this because now I feel I feel like my predictions way low.
46:45
If your numbers don't even add up to like the right number, wookie,
46:50
that's not true at all. But oh wait till we get to the next
46:53
one. Oh I was probably I wasn't paying attention or I got knocked by
46:58
a kid. All right, Draft cords at four twenty percent? Wow,
47:00
twenty five percent, I'm am forty percent other one hundred and five percent,
47:05
one hundred and five percent of players. It couldn't actually add up to one
47:07
hundred okay, brownding guys. Sheep is at twenty five percent, well,
47:15
twenty five percent, mm, fifty percent other that's the same. I are
47:21
you sure you took these right? Because me and Sheep have the there's a
47:23
lot of people who have the exact same numbers here. I had to round
47:27
down though drafts, so we had the champs the number this time. So
47:30
it's better if we talked about Wow at a time, So because me because
47:34
Sheep aren't the same twenty five percent. Yeah, So what was interesting on
47:38
WOE is draft scores z Ewok and Elf all came in at forty percent for
47:44
WOE, and then Sheep and Wookie are at twenty five percent. So our
47:50
patreons are at thirty eight percent. That's their based on the choices, so
47:52
like they are closer to the cast, and Sheep and Wookie are the outliers.
47:58
So so Wokeie, she are you going with twenty five percent? Sound
48:02
time? I did not put much thought into my random clickings. Also,
48:09
I wanted a number that was in between the radio picks you put in there.
48:15
When when I'm going with high, it's Bennesota. They're gonna be bringing
48:22
AOA in coda. That's just how I feel. Minnesota locals are swinging the
48:30
curve, That's what I'm saying. Oh for m and basically all of us
48:34
at twenty five percent. The patreons came in at twenty seven percent or average,
48:38
so we're all spot on that is gonna be about a fourth of the
48:40
field. What I think is interesting is Woe is increasing in MM is decreasing
48:46
there, and that is a big shift in the meta. Will it happen,
48:53
that's our prediction, and then yeah, the others, we've got a
48:55
big rain from twenty five all the way to fifty. Sheep and Woke.
49:00
You're at the high end. Jr. Is at the low end. In
49:04
our audience is well, not our ace, but our Patreons are saying thirty
49:07
eight percent for the other I think they're all gonna be vault maaster decks.
49:13
Man. I think our audience is gonna pats are gonna Patreons are doing well
49:19
here man, all right, our guns? How many Woe decks? Big
49:24
top eight everybody? Yep, we're gonna blame it on the on the Rhona,
49:34
hey, including Patreon Drazz you want a head and we're off on the
49:38
last one last for gen Con. So I think that it's gonna be your
49:43
day, Like Woe was just not going to show up except for two decks.
49:47
I'm liking this, will see it happens. Yeah, I thought they
49:51
went for oh never mind Ark. I was looking to aline my bed Well
49:59
the for MM, we've got a couple this spirit's votes, sheep says only
50:06
one MM mix top eight Sheep, you're clicking randomly there again, a lot
50:14
of coda, lots of coda, lots of lots of Yeah, like you
50:21
guys on MM are all getting scared away by woe So well, I think
50:24
the thing I remember two is right, like Nationals is a big deal,
50:30
right, but you have to have people. I think there's a lot of
50:31
people who are willing to spend the money for a vault tour as opposed to
50:35
willing to spend the money to go to gen Con. That's a big like
50:38
what I mean, what is it class to go to gen Con? A
50:40
couple of grand right now? And what does it take to go to doesn't
50:47
toss a couple of grand to go to gen Con? It's you're sharing,
50:52
it's it's you know, three hundred bucks for room. It's a hundred bucks
50:58
there, and you're gonna be gonna be out of a thousand bucks really quick.
51:01
Okay, but I was really there were a lot of Canadian players bringing
51:05
coda, so I think that might also towards But then, like, what
51:08
does it really cost to go to a Vault tour. The Vault tour is
51:14
about a hundred bucks cheaper on hotel. You're not paying to get in,
51:22
you're paying seventy five bucks, right, but don't you didn't You have to
51:24
pay the seventy five dollars for Nationals too, even after ten dollars on top
51:29
of seventy five for gen Con. So you're it's a little bit cheaper to
51:34
go to a vault if you're if you're assuming you're flying to both, the
51:39
costs are not that far off. No I put. I put going to
51:44
gen Con was about seven hundred to seven fifty jet for the vaults, it
51:49
came up just above five hundred, so between five and six. Never mind
51:55
that that way I thought, I thought I've spent, and so I have.
52:00
Again I like to keep track of that information. Well, that's because
52:04
you also choose to go out and spend a lot more money on food at
52:07
genn than we do at vaults. It is a restriction on you know,
52:12
food and other items that are there yet, so that will fluctuate. But
52:15
yes, there's some costs there. So we went through MM pretty much.
52:20
The rest of the cast is saying two MM. Yeah, along with our
52:24
patreons and draft course three mm going big and if I'm over here in our
52:31
ac live show, it looks like Josh is going with thirty seven percent.
52:36
Well he's gonna hedge his bet there twenty five mm ten coda. Do you
52:40
think code is going to be higher than that? In twelve percent Away,
52:45
that's the one that really so there will be a AOA deck. No,
52:49
I think I think CODA will be a lot higher than that in Away is
52:52
going to be minimal. Sixteen percent World's glide and zero percent DT. Yeah,
52:57
it's always there's alway is one DT. There's always somebody, there's always
53:01
some apologists. Was like, this was a great set, best set.
53:06
A nine year old hunting won't beat it, So somebody's got to go to
53:12
jazz core. Have you ever thought about just playing DT genius? There are
53:20
certain cards. I know you guys joke about this, but there are certain
53:22
cards that really do line up very very well against woe. The end result
53:29
is the coal complete deck I have not seen to be able to be competitive,
53:34
but maybe it'll be an alliance. I'm just kidding it won't be anyway.
53:40
What do we got for? I actually remember I forgot I was going
53:43
to go the other way. You're right, Jr. More people should bring
53:47
dark tidies to vaults. Trying. I'm trying, guys, really buy more
53:52
DT, show up to the vaults with it. This is the going.
53:57
Now, you bring your O D T best set ever, bring him to
54:01
the vaults. This is the route we're headed. Really, they bring a
54:06
different wind con There's no question about it. It is different. Blinding ah,
54:12
okay, they have lose cons jazz. How did you How did you
54:17
feel with your deck that, frankly is a very very solid deck. Was
54:22
it something that you felt great going and facing no comment? It was all
54:35
right? I felt that slap right through the screen there you got. All
54:38
right? All right, I'm going straight to how many people we think are
54:42
showing up. Our patrons are saying ninety six, I'm at eighty. What
54:47
are you guys at? I said one on Hondo. I'm gonna go high
54:53
one twenty one guys, one twenty one. That would be a twenty two
55:00
person gain. Drags is right at what we had. Wookie's a little over
55:05
Philly, sheep, sheep, why's so low? Why's seventy five? Because
55:10
you're in the central area, that just had gen Con, so a lot
55:15
of people are only going to travel to one event. I didn't I think
55:20
it. It takes a little bit of a hit in that Minnesota was shifted
55:24
from days. I do think that's the central time zone area actually has a
55:30
pretty solid gaming group. I think that'll be high. I do think that
55:35
looking at this number one twenty one is going to be high for us.
55:37
But yeah, I'm also I'm also optimistic that we can get more. I
55:43
think that this will be our largest Vault tour that we're going to see.
55:47
And the only other question is will Vegas. Vegas has an easy access point,
55:54
so that's the other one. I do think that Minnesota or Vegas are
55:57
going to be the twos, will be bigger. Man, I didn't factor
56:01
what she just said it and he proves a really good point that like,
56:05
yeah, well, I like mine at eighty was low because of the double
56:09
elimination for but now that it is gone, I will I should have actually
56:15
liked. But is that people haven't pivoted fast enough? Right, that's why
56:21
you have enough time? Is that enough time? No more d or no
56:23
more double elimination? Now I'm gonna go. Yeah, thanks Sheep. I
56:29
think Sheep might be right. See, I think the audience or the Patreons
56:34
are gonna win. Yeah, I think is gonna be right. All Right,
56:38
Alliance totals? How many are gonna play in Alliance? I said nineteen
56:44
again nineteen. No, I think it's gonna be higher. I I've seen
56:50
a lot of people on TCO playing Alliance. There are you think a ton
56:54
of people are gonna be at this thing? Thirty eight plus one twenty one
56:58
is like one hundred and sixty. Yeah, I'm good with this. That
57:00
would be awesome for our game. And so I'm gonna be optimistic and we're
57:04
gonna go ahead and have a lot of people show up. We're excited that
57:07
we're going to the two l O and yeah, we're gonna have some good
57:10
numbers. I mean, hey, I'm all for it. You scre what
57:17
you got it's twenty five. Draft Screw will be one of them. Now
57:22
he's no longer playing our kind. He's actually gonna go to Alliance. I
57:25
don't think that's false. So he can get beat by the one dt tych
57:32
Sheep, Do you really only think fourteen are going to show? Yeah?
57:37
Less than Philly? Okay, Okay, I'm at a solid a lot.
57:44
I'm straight percentages off Philly is what my numbers I like. I like Sheep's
57:49
numbers like Sheep's numbers look sound and solid like I Actually I really like them.
57:52
I think I think he might. I don't like them. I want
57:55
those numbers to be much bigger. Well, if we're if we're going with
58:00
who's right, I think she be pretty. I think that I think you're
58:05
going to be closer to the drazz alf range in twenty five twenty six.
58:08
And I say that because I think there are some really big, die hard
58:13
fans for Alliance. I think that people have seen and the chance and the
58:20
chance so well, but the chance to winning I think East Coast is that
58:29
no. No. I think that people after Philly have seen that the numbers
58:35
like you brought more people into Alliance. Some people switched last minute, but
58:38
now people have had some chance to practice. I've seen more people on tco
58:43
going ahead and playing Alliance. I think that there's going to be more Alliance
58:46
individuals than we saw it Philly. I will stand behind agree that a smaller
58:52
advertised field, because everyone knows they're only nineteen people, it is a lot
58:59
easier to make top eight if you're facing thirty people versus one hundred, So
59:05
I think that will take people. Anyone that was trying to feel out the
59:09
meta might have an idea of what they're gonna be up against actor Philly and
59:14
gen Con. Yeah, they should bring their da all right, Alliance Field,
59:25
Oh wait, we haven't gone through everybody yet. Ze I think thirty
59:31
Oh did you say yours? I didn't hear you. Yeah, I always
59:34
right above Jazz at twenty six percent people twenty six yeah, yeah, twenty
59:39
six people, sorry, twenty six people in my bed. Yeah. Alliance
59:44
percentage for WHOA most of us are twenty five percent with Sheep me Wookie Jr.
59:51
Thet'll start to the people that don't think it's twenty five percent. So
59:52
we're talking Alliance. WHOA your ass? You're at forty at l fifty fifty
1:00:00
percent of WHOA Alliance. I do think fifty percent of Alliance is gonna be
1:00:04
wholly first first insists good answer. I'll give you what he is. I
1:00:15
don't know what's good, but so I do think that some folks are,
1:00:21
you know, looking at the results of Philly and saying, hey, I
1:00:23
could do Alliance and I think they're gonna go to WHOA to do that.
1:00:29
I think they're gonna say, hey, I can get lots of lots of
1:00:31
pips out of Whoe, and there's lots of fun cards in Woe, and
1:00:37
I'm gonna go for alliance. While I think that's what's gonna happen. Do
1:00:42
you think this is gonna be a bunch of people looking on decks of key
1:00:45
forage and going, oh, this is a forty pot and this is a
1:00:47
thirty pot and this is this pod? Yeah? I think so and them
1:00:52
is that a lot of those are gonna add because a lot of your token,
1:00:54
your token makes a difference in your pod. I don't know if I
1:00:58
do not think. So what do you think? All right? What do
1:01:00
you What do you think? Sir? So? The reason why I'm going
1:01:02
for fifty percent, right is Woe Alliance is easier to build than any other
1:01:07
set because the day Alliance was announced, all of the past sets are already
1:01:12
overpicked. Right, they're overpicked for our kind in the first place, and
1:01:15
now people are digging into individual pods, right, so those have been gone
1:01:21
for a long time. So anyone looking to build an Alliance is on an
1:01:24
equal playing field with Woe because the whole meta hasn't exactly been established yet.
1:01:29
So I do think you're going to see a fifty percent very good answer.
1:01:34
We'll see what happens on MM. We kind of got a same kind of
1:01:38
story. Most of us are going twenty five percent of the field will be
1:01:42
MM for Alliance, So our only detractors from that are the Patriot of the
1:01:47
thirty three and Jr. You're the only one on the cast that's not going
1:01:51
twenty five percent MM for Alliance, So why forty dare? While I was
1:01:57
expecting a few more individuals on kind of that build with the enhancements and pips,
1:02:01
and I hear what is there for Woe, But at the time I
1:02:07
just want ahead and leaned into those enhancements and pips, trying to be able
1:02:10
to mimic and follow kind of that win Con of lots of enhancements. I
1:02:16
do think that after gen Con you're going to see an increase in AA.
1:02:22
I mean, we had already expected Genka there, but I do anticipate after
1:02:28
seeing gen Con that these numbers will be a little bit more distorted. Two
1:02:34
weeks is kind of like a super early pivot though for want, It takes
1:02:37
time, it is, but the end result is I think a lot of
1:02:42
people have been pushing and what I am seeing as frankly berserker, warrior and
1:02:50
scholar tokens showing up consistently in woe. So I do think woe is going
1:02:53
to be higher, and I think MM will take a drop. I think
1:02:58
the other is going to be a high amount of a away that's going to
1:03:00
be trying to push, so little little adjustment, but that's just what I'm
1:03:05
seeing. And the others lined up around forty or fifty or Patreons coming around
1:03:09
thirty. Elf comes in at twenty five. You already explained why because of
1:03:14
his woe is higher the Twitter person should come from. So take us through
1:03:20
the top April Alliance, Wookie all right, top eight for Alliance. Most
1:03:25
of us are thinking two. Well, then the rap me and sheep are
1:03:32
thinking three. Well, well, I'm sorry, Elf, you're thinking four.
1:03:36
Well, that lines up with his fifty. Yeah, I'm going to
1:03:40
statistics here. I went with three. Well, I think I'm kind of
1:03:46
pivoted and turned just thinking, well, has got some good stuff. People
1:03:52
are digging it right now, and that's just kind of how key Forge players
1:03:57
play key forge. I pivoted away from my number and then number went back
1:04:02
to change it. But sheep, why did you say three? Woll because
1:04:09
it was a number? Okay, perfect a number? Go ahead, all
1:04:17
right, sheep and okay, do we still have sheep? Yeah, I'm
1:04:24
here because well and first you're like, because it's a number, and then
1:04:28
you went into something. No, no, I didn't. Okay, it's
1:04:31
it's just like whoa align stuff. That's the kind of numbers were seeing.
1:04:39
I don't really see it changing. Okay, I'm at ballpark. Yeah,
1:04:45
im, I'm majority of the cast said three, Alf said two, and
1:04:49
I as well said I'm sorry. Sheep said to Alf, Yeah, so
1:04:57
I'm I'm continuing the same theme. Just go matching my previous essential of what
1:05:03
I thought. Right, So I went he failed half woe and then split
1:05:08
between MM and other steps tune two. He's just matching that ship was to
1:05:14
a number, now to to is not a number? Okay, perfectly lazy,
1:05:20
I'll be honest. Everything else pretty much everybody said three, except for
1:05:26
myself. I said two. Obviously, that makes my math correct, and
1:05:32
I'm guessing elf as well. Elf as well said too, that makes his
1:05:35
math correct. All right, number number of in furnaces. We only do
1:05:44
it in furnaces. We don't want to do any other card we do,
1:05:46
we'll switch if the other one drazz core thirty. Actually that's not a bad
1:05:54
guess now I've yeah, I mean I forget, forget why fair enough sheep
1:06:04
twenty eight. The we're all pretty closest. This is again straight math based
1:06:13
off of reduction in you're just previous results. So the real question and much
1:06:21
change in this part of the meta because a lot of the decks that we
1:06:27
see that we saw it Philly, that we saw at gen Con, is
1:06:30
it really going to change? I don't know about that question. I think
1:06:33
that wow. So that's why I'm the lowest of this group. So I
1:06:39
think I already won this one right here. I think it's going to be
1:06:44
more. Wow. Well obviously more those LA legacy networks aren't as prevalent.
1:06:51
Yeah, I did Crisis rated you at one over yep. Patreons are going
1:06:59
with thirty five, just a little over thirty five. The Patriots in JR.
1:07:05
Was right board. Yeah. So again, the thing that's a little
1:07:09
tricky on this is in furnaces, you the decks that we see in furnace.
1:07:13
We often see multiples in and you're combining both Alliance and Archon. Yeah.
1:07:19
I think that's where it gets a little bit row. Well, I
1:07:21
think your prediction actually lines up with your player count, like correct that you
1:07:28
said, come, thirty five is gonna win the number of players I said,
1:07:33
come, I think twenty five for sure. Now looking at the data
1:07:38
from UH from gen Con, I actually thought that EDI showing up as frequently
1:07:43
as it did was a really interesting card. Did you guys did that jump
1:07:47
out at anyone else? Or was that got commented in the server like that
1:07:50
was super surprising and so was uh. This wasn't the fuddle the kelp Minder
1:07:58
being already top four. It just shows how many fish will we were in
1:08:01
the field. Well, what is mind eddie as confusing? To be honest.
1:08:06
Two draws, that's just such. That's a card that you know,
1:08:10
if there's four of them, that's a that's gonna be a like a solid
1:08:13
you're gonna be able to do stuff with it, right, Yeah, because
1:08:15
it's too drawn and capture right with kelt minder or a keltminder yet Yeah,
1:08:19
so I mean to draw that's good capture, that's you know, Okay,
1:08:26
not bad, We'll take it. Let's go into winners. Are corn An
1:08:30
Alliance, Drazz car fully shilling, was Z in Sydney, yepent shilling,
1:08:39
Sheep appreciate Sheep's the outlier with sig Fig, but then he just went with
1:08:44
Sydney. That's because I don't know everybody else playing Alliance for sure. Oh
1:08:48
okay, that's that's very fair. Mine's already busted. Thanks Jason. I
1:08:56
went with Sheep and Jason will not be coming Ze, Sheep and Sydney.
1:09:04
Yeah, I'm most confident about my picks that I've ever been. Jare is
1:09:11
my favorite with X rays. Tray does X ray Blinky for still, I
1:09:17
don't know nobody's seen him come out of his cave in months. Elf is
1:09:23
going with Z and that we have a terrible case of gout for Alliance.
1:09:29
It just never fires. Well, no, no, no, something to
1:09:33
the effect that if you're playing Alliance, you're already not winning. No no,
1:09:36
no, it's it's it's all about the friends you made along the way,
1:09:40
right, Okay, got it? That is not what I thought.
1:09:43
That been and our patreons showing a lot of support for she love for sheep
1:09:53
m even without Jason, like don't be not Played, Sydney won the vote
1:10:00
as far as the Patriots pots submit this thing, so it was actually quite
1:10:05
a few people submitting. I feel this is just a popularity contest and she
1:10:11
just loved for well, sheep just grows. Well, it's so similar demeanor,
1:10:15
opposite thing. Yes, we keep sheep around so that people can truly
1:10:25
appreciate it. One hundred percent correct and that's the it for our predictions.
1:10:32
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1:11:04
We're only paying Southerly in the grilled cheese sandwiches. Saul from Slow isn't he
1:11:11
in school? It's like ramen and a plastic bottle of vodka. It's gonna
1:11:15
be up to you to upgrade him to Swiss cheese and meekness ramen not not
1:11:21
only that, I just forgot dress Court said. Dress Court said something,
1:11:27
and I was gonna play off of it, and I forgot my plastic bottle
1:11:30
of plastic bottle of vodka. Yeah, I was gonna be like, it's
1:11:33
the vodka that burns on both ends. Oh so this is a segue to
1:11:40
talk about ass Alliance again. Alliance, don't forget to sign ups play with
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Southerly, my history stilling mmmmm, joint Southerly in his ass burning with ass
1:11:56
Alliance. She's gonna win. I don't know. That's a bad one.
1:12:00
I'm sorry, I mean, I'm clean. I'll go back. I'll go
1:12:04
back in my corner. Why do we even need like, I mean,
1:12:09
I understand why we have prizes, right, but like the ultimate prize here
1:12:12
is obviously the title of ass Champion. I should go on the jersey's champion
1:12:19
as champ our comes quarter on the back for your name and just a fast
1:12:24
champion. Well a C family, and it is that leaving a C.
1:12:30
I will see you all at Minnesota. And it was a good run.
1:12:33
It was a good run. I don't think we could do a c ass
1:12:35
chair. I don't know, I wouldn't let you might be a bridge too
1:12:41
far, that's true. Brighter and brighter it, let's see, that's yeah.
1:12:47
We don't want to associate a C with shenanigans, know what, we
1:12:54
would never But yeah, that's that cleans the sheet this week. Another job
1:13:00
well done, gentlemen, and thank you to all the patreons who did submit
1:13:03
their predictions. Obviously, once we get the results back from Gig in their
1:13:12
article, we'll go through it again. We'll have a ton of fun with
1:13:15
it and next week we rank Gig in place, so that'll be fun.
1:13:18
Should we put that on me only only if a Gig employee agrees to brank
1:13:25
us. Let's fine, what do you mean? Odd shit, I'm number
1:13:29
six? Suddenly he's not even technically on the show. He is, I
1:13:34
mean he's here, he's here, one of the last. Too much.
1:13:41
I'm just saying he's on a trial version. Should we send that out to
1:13:49
all the I think yours have a trial version? Two? Yeah, I
1:13:54
think we should send that out to all the to all the Gig staff.
1:13:57
Be like, Frank, your your accret and we should see what happens.
1:14:00
There's eight how many of them? Nine? Eight? Or nine. They
1:14:05
had nine. Because all right, Josh, I'm gonna go ahead and need
1:14:11
either some email addresses or some Discords accounts because I'm sending this form out.
1:14:17
I need to know, all right without doing our hopes for the so oh
1:14:26
yeah, yeah, yeah, what are we hoping for from the weekend?
1:14:31
They are bars off with your your positive vibe, all right, So I'm
1:14:36
hoping that we're gonna have another great turnout. You can see from my numbers
1:14:40
that I'm looking for big, big, big numbers. And we have reason
1:14:43
too. I mean with two llo now being in versus double Elimination and long
1:14:48
byes, come play play key Forge. We can then go out at night
1:14:53
and we can have some drinks, can have some food and just talk key
1:14:57
forage. I really love the key Forge community. You are looking to kill
1:15:00
drazz Corps. I well, I am very very this is what's kept me
1:15:06
in this game. I love the community, and so I'm yeah, I'm
1:15:10
looking forward to the weekend. I'm looking forward to not being there at ten
1:15:13
o'clock, still fighting to be able to try and make top eights. It'll
1:15:15
be done one way or another, and I'm looking forward to enjoying a beverage
1:15:19
and just some time with the fellow key Forge players out there. So I
1:15:25
love the new two llo style. I love the chance that we're gonna get
1:15:28
four bolts mastered decks. I think that it's going to be a great time,
1:15:33
and there'll be some different people who are in at Philly and at gen
1:15:36
Con. So if you see me, come hit me up. And again,
1:15:40
if you got a jersey, definitely come at us. Hit me up
1:15:43
because I have your jersey and they look really snazzy, so hopefully you can
1:15:45
get a nice photo with everyone there. But we're gonna have a great time
1:15:49
regardless of how the tournament itself turns out. I'm just gonna play some key
1:15:59
for not not get screwed. You were not screwed. I'm always getting screwed.
1:16:08
Well that's between you and missus Chip. Who else is going? Else
1:16:16
are you going? I'm not going, but I am hoping to get a
1:16:23
dress core experience page for an episode. Also, I'm going. I'm going
1:16:29
to keep saying my wish, my hope is the same that I've been saying,
1:16:33
other than you know, death to double elimination. But that has happened,
1:16:36
so thank goodness, that has happened. Thank you Gigi ho Lujah,
1:16:42
hallelujah, hollide lujah. My main thing does kind of piggy back what they
1:16:47
are was wanting to just enjoy the community as part of that. I want,
1:16:54
I want there or hope there are other events simultaneously with the main event,
1:17:00
just other ways to engage it. I heard lots of positive feedback about
1:17:04
the Pick Your Token Sealed event I didn't get to play in Sunday of gin
1:17:09
Con, like that's being there or another ARCon events while after a certain amount
1:17:15
of people are eliminated, or bring back one of the team events that we
1:17:17
used to have that could be running Sunday when the Championship is going on like
1:17:21
we used to do. Those kinds of things being happening concurrently with the main
1:17:28
events were big Drawl, especially the team thing and the token thing was really
1:17:33
cool. So I'm hoping to see more of the things to do for the
1:17:38
eliminated players. I hope to not be eliminated, but with the rise of
1:17:42
low I'm probably gonna find myself in the Kicks, got my assick my Woke
1:17:45
club pretty soon. But so that is my hope for the Faults going forward,
1:17:51
that we can continue to see additional things to do during the main events
1:17:58
as Proper Feel continues to grow. Yes, look at more more of what
1:18:04
we will get on our soap box later with Sealed. But yes, Josh,
1:18:12
please bring back team events if you don't know what they are A team
1:18:18
events were so much fun. I think they were just so great. Team
1:18:23
events were awesome. Every Sunday we had a team event at all of alts
1:18:27
at some point and it was so talked about and look forward to side thing
1:18:30
to do. I mean it, capping capping the week end off with the
1:18:34
team event was just awesome because even though no matter where you placed throughout the
1:18:40
weekend, you had a good time, but you had a good time in
1:18:42
team events. Yeah. We even had Josh on our team once else on
1:18:46
not you're Josh, but like Josh Massey, the former op FFT And that
1:18:53
was fun. Ye is that? Yeah? That's everybody. Yeah, yeah,
1:18:58
that's everybody. So yeah, I'm I'm sad about not being able to
1:19:02
go. I want to come to a birthday party. Yeah sure, although
1:19:09
we want you to be the gift of plague. So if I had already
1:19:15
paid to go and I'm sick and couldn't go, that actually probably be even
1:19:19
worse. So yeah, yeah, so we would have just put your head
1:19:25
in a fish bowl. Super just coming a full just just a wall.
1:19:30
Hazards run with a mask, an encounter suit, yeah, the counter suit,
1:19:35
maybe a mirror. Shehell has a matt suit. Kids are draft scars
1:19:43
now, Dracar the one creature that has no text? Can I go ahead
1:19:49
and carry a laptop and draft scores head is just there so he can play
1:19:55
and he'll tell me how to be able to move walk around with face time
1:19:59
through your phone. M absolutely, But that's gonna do it for this week.
1:20:04
Make sure you sign up for the ass Alliance event, make sure you
1:20:09
check us out over on Patreon, and make sure you're checking us out all
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1:20:16
are great. You don't like my memes. I think they're fantastic, right,
1:20:24
I mean, I'm working with what I got here, You know what
1:20:26
I mean I'm saying. So that's gonna do it for us this week.
1:20:30
We'll see you all next week. Happy forging everyone, May the Forge be
1:20:36
with you. I love the love them, I love the kid, I
1:20:58
love the subtle, I love the stick on I love the floor of I
1:21:03
love to watch on I love the pick on me. I'm going to Jake,
1:21:09
I said, cause I'm al