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Aging Boldly as a Woman Leader: Authentic, Active & Ageless with Patty Sibbach and Kathy Anderson-Martin · Loud & Lifted

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  Welcome to Loud and Lifted. I'm your host Betsy
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  Hamm and today I'm thrilled to share the mic
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  with two women who live and lead with unstoppable
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  energy. Patti Sebach and Kathy Anderson -Martin.
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  Patti and Kathy are a dynamic duo with decades
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  of experience in corporate strategy, nonprofit
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  leadership, women's health, and athletic coaching.
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  They're known for bringing real talk, real tools,
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  and real impact to every stage they step on.
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  Their signature message is something we could
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  all use. Become a triple threat. authentic, active
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  and ageless. In this conversation, we explore
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  how to show up as your truest self, stay physically
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  and mentally active in every season of life and
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  rethink what it means to be ageless. If you ever
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  felt the pressure to slow down, dim your light
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  or play small, you're going to want to hear this.
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  Welcome to Loud and Lifted. Patti and Cathy,
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  thank you so much for being here. Thank you.
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  Happy to be here. Love it. Thanks, Patti. Awesome.
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  I feel left out that I'm not in the same room
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  with you guys. So I apologize. I got to work
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  on my setup that I could have three people in
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  the same room. So we'll do that maybe when you
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  guys come back. But happy to be here today with
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  you guys and wanted to start off by first, if
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  you guys could sort of introduce yourself and
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  talk about your background and why you two are
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  here together. Well, that's a, that's a lot,
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  but keep it brief, keep it brief. That's right.
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  I'm Cathy Anderson Martin and I worked, graduated
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  from Penn State and worked many years in corporate,
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  the corporate world, sales, sales manager, national
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  account manager. And I know Patty's going to
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  say, oh no, she's going to tell a heart story,
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  but I am. But within 10 days of 2000, my husband
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  and I were waiting to adopt. I found out I had
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  a heart condition I never knew I had. We got
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  the call to adopt our daughter and then she had
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  the same heart condition. That all happened within
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  10 days. And I share that because that blew up
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  all my plans. got me into a second career in
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  the nonprofit world. And that's what I've been
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  doing since we adopted our second daughter thereafter.
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  And a lot of similarities between the corporate
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  world, nonprofit, a lot of pivots and changes,
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  and even still today doing a lot of those changes.
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  So that's a little bit my background and where
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  I am professionally and personally being a wife
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  and mom and all those things certainly changes
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  a lot of things as well. So I told the heart
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  story, Patty, which she's always like, is you
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  telling that again? I do. last night, I said
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  you have a heart of gold. Yeah, so that's very
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  nice. A Teflon patch on it. True story. Okay,
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  I like that. Hey, that's recorded. So now everybody
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  knows that you definitely said that. So yeah,
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  awesome. Hi, Betsy. Patty Sibach here. As you
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  know, fellowship, Pittsburgh University grad,
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  I attended university athletic scholarship. which
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  really helped me get my college education. Spent
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  most of my professional career in health and
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  wellness, pharmaceutical sales, more so diving
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  into women's health. In 2020, I pivoted full
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  -time into our personal training studios, which
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  are called Precision Training Concepts, where
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  we do one -on -one personal training, as well
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  as corporate wellness and fitness. Opened up
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  a membership -based facility when we moved up
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  to Perry County, a very underserved area. And
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  we just feel, my husband and I feel as though
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  we have a gift of fitness. You know, it came
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  easily to us, doesn't come easily to everybody.
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  And we want to give back as much as we can. of
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  us got together was Cathy, do you want to share
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  that story? Well, of course she will. Yes, I
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  will absolutely share that story. I know we can
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  give her a shout out with this, but we've been
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  friends for a while, but when I was working at
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  the Salvation Army Harrisburg we met and so it
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  was more than a decade ago or so 15 years ago
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  or so and became friends. We're very different,
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  have a lot of differences, a lot of commonalities
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  as well, but a few years ago, five or six years
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  ago, Patty, there was a lot more. of me than
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  there is right now. And Patty said to me, you
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  have to Cathy invest in your health. And while
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  I was always that person who went on the New
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  Year's diet, lost weight, and then regained that
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  plus 10 more pounds by Christmas. And you're
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  like, how did I gain 70 pounds? I realized I
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  needed to make what Patty said that you have
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  to invest, but it is an investment in your health.
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  And then that affects every other part of your
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  life. So that really I've transformed my health
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  and I give her credit. And now, like you say,
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  it's on tape for helping me. Now the only thing
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  big on her is her personality. I don't know.
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  We're not used to complimenting each other like
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  this. I know. And again, this is recorded, so
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  I know that you said these nice things. It goes
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  on forever. Right. And the way that we're together,
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  Betsy, is Cathy already said it. We're very different.
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  We're very different people. Our interests are
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  different, but there are some definite common
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  threads that we found, that we live our lives
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  on. And from that, we've really created a platform
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  that we feel as though we've been able to educate
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  other women, other men as well, but on that.
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  And so many women, and I think we fell into this
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  maybe at some point, feel like they need to be
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  all things to all people as opposed to being
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  who they are and authentic with who they are.
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  Right, right. We just spoke earlier before we
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  went on broadcast here that sometimes you set
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  yourself up for unrealistic expectations and
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  you feel as though you're going to be a failure
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  in everything because you can't give that 100
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  % to all those avenues in your life. And because
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  of that, you know, what we reiterate is that
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  authenticity, you need to be authentic with yourself.
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  And so let's dig into that a little bit. So when
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  you say the word authentic, we throw that around
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  a lot, right? Like, what does that actually mean?
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  And how does somebody show up being their authentic
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  selves? Well, it means that if you look up the
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  definition, it means being true to oneself, your
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  values and personality. And that is You know,
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  while it sounds simple and we could probably
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  all pull that definition off the cuff, it's more
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  difficult to live in practice when we're trying
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  to be all things to all people. However, yes,
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  however, there's a big but to this. And I use
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  the word respect. You still need to be respectful
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  to others and you can be as well as being authentic
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  to. Right. So we've presented and we share about
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  the importance of being and living authentically.
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  But that also doesn't that doesn't mean you cancel
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  out other people and say, I'm just going to do
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  this to heck with everyone else. Like, I'm just
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  going to leave my family and my kids, whatever,
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  because I want to go, you know, Rome, South America.
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  You still have responsibility and there are still
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  things and we want to communicate that because
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  we believe strongly in that. It's not a license.
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  Right. Absolutely. And then how do you, you know,
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  if someone's struggling with being authentic
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  and it's sort of, you know, people talk about
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  balance, especially with women, which I hate
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  because we're not balancing anything, we're juggling.
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  So sometimes you have to prioritize work and
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  sometimes it's your kids and, you know, everything's
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  just kind of up in the air at times and you're
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  just trying to get things done. So how do you
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  go through that and be authentic and have that
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  balance of respect? Because I get it. It would
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  be amazing to say, you know what, I'm good. I'm
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  just going to go on a two week vacation, see
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  everybody, you know, I'll be back. You know,
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  how do you give advice on being able to do that
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  and be productive, essentially? Well, I think
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  some of it when we present and share, we use
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  our real lives and as examples, you know, I think
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  so. I'm one of those people I don't do well with
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  20 page manuals or 50 page manuals. I like to
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  hear other people's stories and how that and
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  what's relatable. So we share a lot of that.
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  We found that with ourselves. There are certain
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  things, you know, when I was my kids were marching
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  band, I was like. What is the least I can do
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  to put a check mark beside my name to help me?
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  And I say that because I just realized I felt
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  like I needed to contribute, which I did. But
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  I don't. That's not my kind of thing. And they're
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  different things. When my kids were little, I
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  kind of backed away from the workforce, work
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  part time a little to be with them. In my case,
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  that's OK. That that was my choice. It's not
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  everyone's choice. But to give myself freedom
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  and others, that's my choice. And you've had
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  other different. I have. I mean, Where I was
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  at 40 was nowhere near where I thought I was
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  going to be at 40 or even 45. Because she's now
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  45. I'm staying at 40. 42. I was wondering where
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  she was going with that. But where I thought
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  I was going to be in life, I felt like a big
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  fat failure. because I was trying to juggle a
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  career and trying to juggle raising kids and
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  being a perfect neighbor and a perfect wife and
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  perfect employee. And none of those cups were
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  filled to the rim. I felt like a constant failure.
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  I had a failed marriage. And that's tough. That's
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  tough. So to answer your question, how do you
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  deal with that? You have to put what's most important
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  at that stage in your life first. And I think
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  what we've found is where we are in life now,
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  because we've had so many years of corporate
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  life and business ownership, you can still, I
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  use the word pivot, but you can still embrace
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  other opportunities. We're in our second half.
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  You can tell we're not slowing down. Right. And
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  the word I use frequently is grace. You give
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  yourself grace. You give grace a lot of times
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  to other people, but you have to give grace to
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  yourself. I was way too hard on myself. Way too
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  hard on myself. And then how did you get past
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  that? How did you adjust and be able to take
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  a step back and realize that you maybe need to
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  recalibrate certain areas of your life, but to
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  give yourself grace? For me, I... had to come
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  back to what was most important. And at that
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  point in my life, it was my children. And I had
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  to think, what kind of example am I showing them?
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  Were they going to be more impressed over the
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  fact that I have this wonderful career and so
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  forth? Are they going to be more impressed that
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  I'm with them? And I can always go back to work.
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  I mean, I'm still work. I had to. I had to as
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  a single mother at one point. But I just knew
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  that. I can always go back to something. I'll
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  never have that moment with my kids again. And
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  you're the same way with that. And I share that.
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  I say that heart story because I look at that
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  was before my life, before and thereafter, because
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  I had a condition that as a doctor said, when
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  you had symptoms, it was too late. So when you
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  realize that any day I could have dropped over,
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  I had a congenital heart defect, every day is
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  that much more precious and positive. And certainly
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  my faith, and I know that's with you as well,
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  you know, there's so many things that we, it's
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  major on the majors, not the minors. And we all
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  get caught up in stuff. But is that really important
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  at the end of the day? Right. Oh, I love that.
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  That's awesome. When we speak, we'll have women
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  coming up to us afterwards saying, boy, I really
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  resonate with Cathy. Or then others will be like,
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  boy, Patty, I really resonate with you. I've
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  had the same struggle. So it's really nice that
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  we have the balance of our life experiences to
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  share with audiences of, wow. And asking that
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  same question, how did you survive this? How
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  did you not only survive? but how are you now
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  thriving from it? Thriving. Absolutely. No, I
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  love that. And I love the second half, right?
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  That you're saying that now you're thriving and
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  the second half, you guys are not slowing down.
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  I feel like you're both all over the place doing
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  amazing things. started yet. You know, I was
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  thinking the minor on the minors before we went
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  on the air here. She's like, your hair and I'm
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  going quit fluffing your hair. And she's like,
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  you need to fluff your hair. And I'm like, quick.
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  And then hey, Betsy. Fluffing her hair, fluffing
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  your hair. But that's kind of that minor on the
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  minors. And you know, there might have been a
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  point in our life that that was us. You people
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  get hung up on those kind of things. Now to us.
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  That's hilarious. That's our differences. But
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  I think back to, you know, when I first first
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  especially met you, Kathy, you know, is that
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  the Salvation Army and you would you'd be emceeing
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  Shoestrite and you were very good at being not
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  very good because it's who you are being authentic,
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  right? Like you sit up there, you can make fun
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  of yourself. You could be like, oh, I'm Patty's
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  twin. I could, you know, like you just were very
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  good about putting yourself out there and laughing
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  at yourself. And I mean, that was what makes
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  you so relatable is the fact that like I can.
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  It's confidence. You know, you have to have a
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  certain level of confidence, not arrogance, but
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  confident. Well, and I think also, you know,
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  when we do this presentation, that the first
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  point is authentic, but then the second part
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  is active. And we go into because I mentioned,
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  Patty helped me change my health. And if you
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  don't have a healthy body, mind and spirit, it's
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  hard to be authentic. Because if you're miserable
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  within your own skin physically, that creates
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  a whole lot of other challenges. So that goes
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  into it, certainly from her background, but I
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  learned that because we say, oh, you know that,
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  but it's so important. Let's dig into the active,
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  because I think that's so important, and I know
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  that's a big part of your platform is being active.
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  So what does that look like? What does that mean?
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  I mean, you just started to touch on why is that
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  so important? Well, again, when Patty said invest
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  in your health, I lost 50 pounds, and I've kept
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  it off first time ever versus all the yo -yo
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  dieting and so forth. So it's more than just
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  losing weight. When I did that, I went, I mean,
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  I stopped taking medications. I went from pre
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  -diabetic to normal. I don't take, you know,
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  my everything changed as far as my health. And
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  that even changed, not that I was depressed and
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  so forth, but it changes everything when you
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  feel good. It feels good to feel good. And it's
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  hard to be authentic when you're miserable within
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  your own skin. So that was my change of life,
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  and because of my health, it changed so many
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  other things. And we see it every day in our
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  studios, Betsy, where individuals have spent
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  their lives focusing on other things that mattered,
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  or what they perceive mattered most in their
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  lives. We're given one body in this world. And
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  you got one chance. It's one car. If you were
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  given the opportunity to own one car in your
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  life, how would you take care of it? Right. And
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  that's your body. And as Cathy says, yes, it's
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  physical, but we know that physical activity,
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  what we eat. really is just a part of your total
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  being. It's how you act, how you sleep, how you
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  treat others, how you perform in your job, how
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  you perform as a parent, a spouse. You know,
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  the list goes on and on and on. And it all starts
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  with how you treat yourself both from a physical
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  component and from a nutritional component. And
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  from that, we've created giving wellness. So
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  because of Patty and the impact and things that
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  we did just kind of organically, you know, we
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  created this eight and people asking me, how'd
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  you do that? How'd you lose weight? What happened?
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  You know, and it's really it's healthy habits,
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  right? There's no magic formula. We're not going
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  to say go take medication or anything else. I
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  want to do what's good and sustainable, sustainable.
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  Right. So we created giving wellness, which is
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  an eight week healthy habits challenge to help
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  others find a kind of focus on those things,
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  whether it's fruits and vegetables, less sugar
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  movement. and all of the things that we've had
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  over 200 people. Over 200, we are now promoting
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  it to a corporate environment because companies
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  are finding, obviously it's a win -win, right?
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  You have a healthier employee. It's a healthier
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  employer. You go into the whole... insurance
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  claims, that sort of deal. It's not only that,
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  but think about the way the workforce is now.
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  It's very disconnected. We're virtual, right?
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  So we have employers coming to us saying, I want
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  my employees to connect better. Do you have a
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  way for it? Yes, we do. In a friendly challenge
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  with accountability, developing sustainable,
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  healthy habits for them. And in addition to after
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  an eight week program where they're able to have
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  these sustainable eating better. movement, there
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  is an additional give back to a nonprofit of
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  their choice. And that's why the name giving
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  wellness to yourself and others. And you know,
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  it's a win win all the way around. I am now a
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  spoke model. Congrats. I have put myself at the
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  level of being a before and after. I'm like 17
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  magazine before and after, or Glamour's do and
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  don't with my eyes crossed out. Well, and Betsy,
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  going back to what we were seeing before, the
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  fitness came really easy to me, right? And I
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  said, I'm a big believer that everybody's given
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  gifts. That's my gift. I know how to help others
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  get healthier. She's very empathetic. Kathy's
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  very empathetic to it because It wasn't easy
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  for her. Sure. And a lot of people can relate
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  to that. Right. Right. I mean, yeah. Yeah. You
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  know, I, I love to walk and I walking has become
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  my stress reliever versus why he's on the porch
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  every evening. I mean, I had both, but yeah,
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  it's a balance. Trying to, you know, be the giving
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  all the spoke. But you know that and being outside
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  and it's amazing. And I was the first person
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  when I started to say, I'm never gonna want vegetables.
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  I'm never gonna want... you do things change
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  your habits and you but you just have to do it
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  right right and it's like you said it's nothing
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  crazy it's nothing like right now from the beginning
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  yeah if you told me you have to go buy this special
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  food i'm out yeah i quit right well you know
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  it's so funny i've always been into health and
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  and wellness and and being active but i think
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  you know in my 20s it was more like how i looked
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  right like it was just about like oh i need to
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  lose five pounds i have to wear a bathing suit
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  it was very physical like that i would be focused
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  on and then i think just as i I got older and
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  realized that was also like a stress reliever.
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  And, you know, to go to yoga or go to the gym
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  or go on a run like made you feel better. And
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  now it's like older, like in your 40s and you're
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  like, oh shit, like I have to. about like lifting
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  weights more and you know, not getting off your
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  process and eating better and looking especially
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  at the older generation who has so many health
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  issues and whether it's high blood pressure or
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  cholesterol, whatever it is that there's things
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  that we can be doing now to not have to have
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  you know, this not great lifestyle in the future.
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  It's funny how that sort of changes as you get
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  older, at least for me where it's like my why
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  my reasons and but I enjoy it right like to your
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  point, I enjoy working out and it makes me feel
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  better. But it's just finding what you can do.
• 18:18
  and what's sustainable, because I think that's
• 18:20
  probably one of the biggest things you see. I
• 18:22
  mean, we're all guilty of it at some point where
• 18:24
  you get on, whether it's a fad diet or a crash
• 18:27
  diet or some crazy exercise regimen, that's just
• 18:30
  not sustainable. So it's like finding that, that
• 18:33
  thing, right, that's sustainable and know that
• 18:35
  you might have a bad day or a bad, bad weekend,
• 18:38
  but it's okay. Like just move on and get back
• 18:41
  on track. So I think we get so focused on being
• 18:44
  a hundred percent and that's, that's not going
• 18:46
  to happen. You're going to have to balance. You
• 18:48
  can still have wine and cheese on the porch too,
• 18:50
  but maybe after your walk. And you nailed it
• 18:53
  too. It's find your why. Right. We talk about
• 18:55
  find your why and that varies for everyone. And
• 18:59
  also you also hit on the point where your, your
• 19:03
  reasons do change every time your fitness evolves
• 19:06
  over your decades. And I think us coming from,
• 19:08
  you know, we've worked. over 40 years in, in,
• 19:14
  uh, I'm surprised you didn't say she's older,
• 19:16
  but she is, she's older, but that's beside the
• 19:18
  point. A year and a half. And it does. So what
• 19:23
  the good news is it's never too late. It's never
• 19:25
  too late to have healthier habits. And we talk
• 19:29
  about exercise. We don't even use the word exercise.
• 19:31
  We talk about movement or find the movement that
• 19:33
  you like. When we go into schools or organizations,
• 19:38
  we don't teach that to five -year -olds or 70
• 19:40
  -year -olds. And you know, when we talk about
• 19:42
  this, what you do as a woman, as a wife, mother,
• 19:45
  friend, has a ripple effect on the people around
• 19:48
  you. And we talk about that, setting an example
• 19:51
  for your kids. We just, my husband and I, we
• 19:54
  went on a cruise last week with my 78 year old
• 19:56
  mother who was inspired by Brian and Patty. She'd
• 19:59
  been overweight my whole life, lost 60 pounds.
• 20:01
  And she went on the cruise with us, kind of a
• 20:03
  bucket list thing. She could not have done that
• 20:05
  years ago without changing her health. So it's
• 20:08
  not just a matter of losing weight or looking
• 20:10
  better. No matter how do you want to live, right?
• 20:13
  What kind of example are you being for your kids?
• 20:16
  Not just with health, but all of these other
• 20:18
  things. Confidence, living authentically. You
• 20:20
  can't expect your daughters to be authentic and
• 20:23
  healthy if you're not. You were just talking
• 20:26
  yesterday about birthdays, how some people love
• 20:28
  birthdays and how other people hate birthdays.
• 20:31
  We love birthdays. Because we're not dead! Me
• 20:34
  too! I agree! I totally agree. If you don't have
• 20:37
  a birthday, you're dead! All right, that's in
• 20:43
  our presentation, so we just get excited. We
• 20:46
  were so professional up to that point. I know.
• 20:51
  I spoke to a group at a recent college, and the
• 20:53
  kids seemed not disinterested, and I'm, you know,
• 20:56
  30, 40, 10 years older than they are. And I said,
• 21:00
  you know, I know you're thinking you're never
• 21:01
  going to be big to be my age, but if you don't,
• 21:04
  you're dead. So plan accordingly. Yep. No, I
• 21:08
  agree. I'm a big fan of birthdays. I totally
• 21:10
  agree because you're right. The alternative is
• 21:12
  you're dead. Sorry, I had to get that off. All
• 21:16
  right. All right. Continue. Yes. Next question.
• 21:19
  No, no. You're good. So just one more thing about
• 21:21
  being active. So if someone's listening to this
• 21:23
  and they're like, wow, I really need to get my
• 21:25
  act together. You know, I'm in my 40s or 50s
• 21:27
  or whatever age. What's like, how do you how
• 21:29
  do you get started if you just are in a rut and
• 21:31
  you're not sure how to get the momentum at least
• 21:34
  to start headed in the right direction? If someone
• 21:37
  is clueless and doesn't even know where to begin,
• 21:40
  consult a professional. Consult a credible professional
• 21:43
  health and wellness. And then don't set these
• 21:47
  lofty goals. We've had clients come in where,
• 21:50
  hey, I'm going to go climb Mount Kilimanjaro.
• 21:53
  That's not really a realistic goal to set first.
• 21:57
  So set smaller, attainable goals. And then once
• 22:00
  you achieve those, go on to the next goal. It
• 22:02
  may be just, you know what? I'm going to go for
• 22:05
  a walk after dinner tonight. Yeah. I love that.
• 22:09
  Go ahead. I was just going to say, I mean, my
• 22:11
  journey, I lost average that losing my weight
• 22:14
  a half a pound a week. That was over, you know,
• 22:17
  to lose 50 plus pounds. Fun fact, now she has
• 22:22
  a streak of, well, the end of, well, soon it'll
• 22:26
  be three years that I've walked every single
• 22:29
  day, 10 ,000 plus steps. Oh my gosh. I know,
• 22:33
  and I work at that. But little things along the
• 22:35
  way, I mean, I worked, worked with our team are
• 22:38
  here and like little goals, like, okay, every
• 22:41
  morning you seem to eat pretzels for a snack,
• 22:43
  why don't you have a piece of fruit instead?
• 22:45
  You know, so and little things, because if you
• 22:48
  told me here's all this plan, again, 20 page
• 22:50
  plan, I couldn't do it, but I could do one little
• 22:52
  thing at a time. And then that adds up to big
• 22:55
  things. Yep, I love that. It's just like everything
• 22:57
  else. I think sometimes people get paralyzed
• 23:00
  because they get overwhelmed by trying to be
• 23:02
  up here when it's like, no, just start here.
• 23:04
  It's like everything else. Just take some baby
• 23:05
  steps and head in the right direction. I call
• 23:08
  that paralysis by analysis. You look at it too
• 23:11
  much and then you do nothing. Yep. Everything.
• 23:15
  Or you're like, I'll start next Sunday. And then
• 23:17
  it's Monday. And then you're like, oh, I mean,
• 23:18
  I'll start next Sunday. Like, just start tomorrow.
• 23:20
  Like, it's OK. You know, I just said that today.
• 23:23
  I was on the cruise. I gained three pounds on
• 23:26
  the cruise, which I was shocked that it was only
• 23:27
  three pounds. However, in the past, it would
• 23:31
  have been like, oh, I gained weight. I might
• 23:32
  as well just keep it going until I might as well
• 23:34
  eat the doughnut today. Well, I eat the doughnut.
• 23:37
  Look, heck, I might as well get fries for lunch.
• 23:38
  Oh, what the heck. I'll go get. Now I'm like,
• 23:41
  okay, I gained three pounds. And I go back to
• 23:43
  the habits like in giving wellness that made
• 23:46
  me successful because I know I'll repivot and
• 23:49
  then go back, recalibrate. We were at an awards
• 23:52
  luncheon yesterday and I looked over, I was very
• 23:54
  proud of her. You know how you have the plate
• 23:56
  and then have the dessert in front of you. It
• 23:58
  was a lemon cheesecake. I'm like, whoa. I ate
• 24:02
  two bites of the crust. She only had two bites.
• 24:05
  That's good. She was going like this, and so
• 24:08
  that kind of helps. But if you have someone that
• 24:09
  followed you around smacking food out of your
• 24:11
  hand, that would be helpful too. It helps, yeah.
• 24:13
  She throws her trash on your plate, yeah, whatever.
• 24:15
  That's costly, so. That's hilarious. That's awesome.
• 24:19
  That's great. Well, so the last piece, which
• 24:21
  you kind of touched on, is if you're not dead,
• 24:23
  you're alive. You're celebrating birthday, so
• 24:25
  talk to me about being ageless and what that
• 24:27
  means to you. Well there again, so many times
• 24:30
  we say, oh, I can't do that. I'm at this age
• 24:33
  whether you're young like oh I'm this age and
• 24:35
  then you get older like I can't do that. I'm
• 24:37
  a perfect example. I'm 59. Oh, I said it wine
• 24:44
  and I'm not dead but Just recently, I changed
• 24:49
  what I'm doing, stepped back down from my full
• 24:53
  -time job, still doing some, but opened an LLC
• 24:56
  to do some things, consulting, and even things
• 24:58
  with giving wellness and so forth and speaking
• 25:01
  that I've always wanted to do. I would have probably
• 25:05
  said in the past, I'm 59, I'm getting close to
• 25:08
  retirement. No, I'm just, um, ageless is, you
• 25:12
  know, there's still opportunity and to change,
• 25:14
  not to be irresponsible. It's not like I said,
• 25:16
  I'm going to go cash in all my money and move
• 25:18
  to Tahiti, you know, without a plan, but to make
• 25:21
  reasonable choices to do things that I more want
• 25:24
  to do the same you did with going to full time
• 25:27
  with your businesses. I think if you are active,
• 25:29
  it's easier to be ageless. You're filling yourself,
• 25:34
  your brain's working, you're firing on all cylinders.
• 25:36
  It's like, what can I do now? I don't want to
• 25:38
  slow down. I don't want to slow down. People
• 25:40
  at our age are retiring, really looking at their
• 25:43
  retirement plans and thinking, when can I cash
• 25:45
  out? When can I stop? I don't want to slow down.
• 25:49
  You know, I don't want to slow down. It's more
• 25:50
  making, being able to make choices of things
• 25:52
  maybe you want to do more. Smart choices. Right,
• 25:54
  right. choices that makes sense. And we're at
• 25:58
  a point where we know that we have gifts that
• 26:00
  we need to be sharing with others. And that includes
• 26:04
  from the workplace environment, from a health
• 26:06
  and wellness in place environment. So, and you
• 26:09
  know, it helps to go through life having a sense
• 26:11
  of humor and being able to laugh at yourself.
• 26:14
  You said that earlier and others. And I think
• 26:17
  that's something we say we have a lot of differences,
• 26:19
  but we also have the same basic attitude, like
• 26:22
  don't sweat the small stuff. You can sit in it
• 26:26
  for a minute, but then move on. It's okay to
• 26:29
  be down, just don't stay down. That's very true.
• 26:34
  And have a friend who says, if you don't stop,
• 26:36
  I'm going to punch you in the head. That's kind
• 26:39
  of what we feel. Violence kind of goes a long
• 26:41
  way, so that's fine. We won't allow each other
• 26:45
  to stay down. I love that. And find that accountability
• 26:50
  person in your life. I was going to say. That's
• 26:53
  kind of ageless. I spent way too many years of
• 26:55
  my life trying to be with certain people or not
• 26:59
  that I don't respect or I'm cordial with people,
• 27:02
  but surrounding myself with those people who
• 27:04
  make me a better person and vice versa. I can
• 27:07
  remember younger in my career, I felt like, boy,
• 27:09
  I just didn't fit in. I thought differently.
• 27:12
  I thought differently. I wanted to go about it
• 27:14
  differently. I was a hard worker. And I'm like,
• 27:17
  gosh, am I in this alone? I would say to women
• 27:19
  out there, Your tribe's still out there. Don't
• 27:23
  give up. Don't feel like you're still behind
• 27:25
  your people right there there and they're looking
• 27:27
  for you, too I love that. And I talk about circles
• 27:30
  all the time because I think you have to have
• 27:32
  a really good circle. And a lot of us have different
• 27:34
  circles, right? You might have one that's from
• 27:36
  like your neighborhood friends or, you know,
• 27:38
  high school friends or whoever it is. But it's
• 27:40
  having those circles of people who are going
• 27:42
  to cheer for you, maybe smack you up against
• 27:44
  that head if you need it. You know, when you're
• 27:46
  when you're thinking negatively or just need
• 27:48
  to get out of the funk that you're in. So I think
• 27:50
  that's so important. And it could be one person.
• 27:52
  It could be five people. But you have to have
• 27:54
  that tribe, that circle who is going to be there
• 27:56
  to support you. but also sometimes nudge you
• 27:59
  when you need that too. And be authentic with
• 28:01
  you too, right? To have those authentic conversations.
• 28:05
  Right. You know, one of my favorite words is
• 28:07
  perspective. And I think working in the nonprofit,
• 28:09
  like at the Salvation Army, that came into play.
• 28:12
  Things that I thought were the end of the world.
• 28:14
  And then you see people struggling more. It's
• 28:17
  not that big of a deal. It's not life shattering.
• 28:20
  There certainly are life shattering experiences
• 28:23
  and circumstances, but most things we get ourselves
• 28:25
  all worked up about. aren't that big a deal.
• 28:28
  Right. Yeah. No, that's very good. So it's finding
• 28:30
  the right people to be around with and finding
• 28:32
  something that you love to do, you know, kind
• 28:34
  of going back to the fact of saying that you
• 28:35
  guys are not anywhere close to retiring. It's
• 28:37
  because you love what you do and you found your
• 28:40
  purpose and you enjoy doing it. So it doesn't
• 28:42
  probably feel like work when you get to choose
• 28:44
  what you're doing and you're making a difference
• 28:45
  and working with each other. Oh, yeah. Sometimes
• 28:49
  it's really, really hard. It's really hard. You
• 28:53
  might need a new coworker or whatever. You know,
• 28:55
  and again, I have two daughters, you have kids.
• 28:58
  We have four weddings in the next couple. We
• 29:01
  have one, but I have daughters, 25 and 23. And
• 29:06
  I see, and I see myself in them and a younger
• 29:08
  thing. But again, I want a model for them. And
• 29:10
  I know the struggle that's natural parts of life,
• 29:13
  but to say, Hey, this is not a big deal. This
• 29:15
  is not something to focus on. And, you know,
• 29:18
  look at the big things and enjoy every moment
• 29:20
  of what you're doing. Right. What would be your
• 29:24
  big takeaway for your kids? Like if you could
• 29:25
  instill, I mean, saying one thing is kind of
• 29:27
  hard, but like sort of one perspective for your
• 29:29
  kids and as they've, or that you try to instill
• 29:32
  since your kids are older, but just something
• 29:33
  that you hope that your kids take away. I just
• 29:36
  said to you, I said, boy, it's a nice feeling
• 29:39
  when your kids are using your words and wisdom
• 29:42
  to you. And when one of the phrases I would always
• 29:50
  say to them, And there's going to be moments
• 29:52
  in life. It's not if, it's when, right? Something's
• 29:55
  going to happen that you're not going to agree
• 29:56
  with. That's going to happen. You know, when
• 29:59
  things go wrong, just don't go wrong with them.
• 30:01
  Stay the course, right? Get back on course. It's
• 30:05
  going to happen. The waves are going to hit the
• 30:07
  ship. And the thing I always said to my girls
• 30:09
  today is do what's right and smart. You know,
• 30:13
  there are certain things that are right and wrong,
• 30:15
  and you always want to do what's right. The second
• 30:17
  thing is, do what's smart. There's some things
• 30:20
  that aren't necessarily right or wrong, but it's
• 30:22
  stupid. So don't do stupid, do smart. Do right
• 30:30
  things for the right reason. and my girls will
• 30:35
  laugh, but that's kind of I gave them seven things
• 30:37
  to look for in a voice and say we're in fifth
• 30:40
  grade and they get my one daughter would call
• 30:42
  me and go mom on a date and say he ordered appetizers
• 30:45
  number five so you know that's a whole story
• 30:48
  but um you know you have to do it again even
• 30:51
  keep it fun with your kids if you're always harping
• 30:53
  and i know you and your kids they call you every
• 30:55
  day oh well adult kids you know you have to my
• 30:59
  chops yes well of course i thought of you at
• 31:03
  least I think that speaks to her relationship
• 31:05
  with her kids. And that's what you want. Your
• 31:08
  adult kids are fun, but you build that all through
• 31:11
  their lives. Nice. That's great. All right. I'm
• 31:14
  going to end with a quick lightning round. So
• 31:16
  just, I did not tell you guys this ahead of time.
• 31:18
  I think you'll be fine knowing the two of your
• 31:19
  personalities to see what you come up with. One
• 31:23
  habit that keeps you authentic. I have the same
• 31:26
  routine every morning. I get up, I take a walk
• 31:29
  with the dogs and the husband. I mean, not necessarily
• 31:31
  in that order. And I do a little devotional.
• 31:34
  We have breakfast and I kind of do a little quiet
• 31:36
  time and devotional every morning. That keeps
• 31:38
  me kind of focused on what my day is. Every morning.
• 31:42
  Nice. I mean, the first word that comes to my
• 31:44
  mind is fashion. I don't ever... Fashion. Perfect
• 31:48
  for you. I never want to look like a dud out
• 31:53
  there. I always want to put my best face forward.
• 31:58
  You do. You do a great job at that. But I'm not
• 32:01
  going to comment. All right. Favorite way to
• 32:04
  stay active outside the gym? Walking. Walking.
• 32:08
  I love to walk. I love to be outside and walking.
• 32:11
  I like to be with my animals. She has goats.
• 32:14
  She has goats. Wow. That's fun. All right, a
• 32:19
  woman who inspires you with her ageless energy.
• 32:22
  It's my grandmother. I loved her my whole life.
• 32:25
  She passed away a couple years ago. Ironically,
• 32:27
  she started a business, her own restaurant, at
• 32:29
  age 58. And that kind of gave me, she wanted
• 32:33
  to do that her whole life. So when I was toying
• 32:35
  with what I was going to do, I'm like, this is
• 32:36
  what grandma did and now that's what I'm going
• 32:38
  to do. I didn't know when she was alive, but
• 32:42
  I know now it was my mom. And it wasn't a physical
• 32:45
  energy that she had, but it was a spiritual energy.
• 32:48
  There wasn't a day that went by that she didn't
• 32:50
  pray for our family and wish us the best. And
• 32:52
  I've kind of rewarded the family as well. That's
• 32:56
  very important too. I love that. What's one thing
• 32:59
  you'll never apologize for? My high heels. Again,
• 33:03
  it's back to fashion. Back to fashion. She's
• 33:06
  authentic. I know. I wear sensible shoes. My
• 33:09
  values and my defense of those values. That's
• 33:13
  good. Let's do that. One more to describe each
• 33:15
  other. We've already said it numerous times on
• 33:18
  this broadcast for Kathy. It's definitely authenticity.
• 33:21
  I'd say the same thing. And that's probably our
• 33:24
  common denominator. Yeah. Our values, but also
• 33:27
  being real. I mean, we can laugh. She can make
• 33:29
  fun of my shoes. I don't care. I can make fun
• 33:31
  of her eyelashes. I don't, she might care, but
• 33:35
  you know, that again, majoring on the majors,
• 33:38
  not the trivial one. Well, this is great, ladies.
• 33:42
  Thank you so much for being here. I appreciate
• 33:43
  that. And I love the authentic, active, ageless,
• 33:46
  triple threat. And if people want to connect
• 33:48
  with you, where can they find you? They can find
• 33:50
  us, I guess, on LinkedIn. They can email us.
• 33:53
  We do giving wellness we work together on. If
• 33:56
  you want to do that individually or as a group
• 33:58
  or a business, we've been speaking and sharing
• 34:01
  more. So if you need a motivational moment with
• 34:03
  your women's group, whatever, you can contact
• 34:05
  us, one or the other of us. PTCfitness .com is
• 34:09
  our website where you can also get to the giving
• 34:11
  wellness. Great. Thank you. And we will link
• 34:14
  all that on the Loud and Lifted website as well.
• 34:16
  So we'll have that all available. So thank you
• 34:18
  so much for being here. I greatly appreciate
• 34:20
  it. Thanks Betsy. Betsy, it's been an honor.
• 34:23
  Patty and Kathy, thank you for reminding us what
• 34:25
  it means to live fully, authentic in who we are,
• 34:28
  active in mind and body, and ageless in spirit,
• 34:31
  no matter what age. Here's my challenge to you
• 34:33
  listeners this week. Pick one way to be more
• 34:36
  authentic. one way to stay active, and one way
• 34:38
  to embrace your ageless energy. It doesn't have
• 34:41
  to be big, it just has to be intentional. If
• 34:45
  today's conversation lifted you up, share it
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  episode of Loud and Lifted. Until next time,
• 34:52
  keep showing up bold, bright, and absolutely
• 34:55
  unstoppable.