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Top 10 Breakout Candidates for 2025-2026 (Part 2) · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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So today we're gonna be doing Part B some call it Part 2 of
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in mind? We're going to go on like a like
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a brief chef on call strike like.
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We're already kind of on a strike.
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Tossed dress or else Josh drafts, especially Nicole in the
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1st. Round.
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Pharrell Josh gets his baby to get fantasy advice.
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So. 1st I'm trying to get him to sleep through the night and then
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we can deal with the fantasy advice.
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Yeah, good point. Sounds good, so let us begin
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with #5. Like baby before we get #5.
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Thank you, Kevin. Alright, with #5 we've got the
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big quarterback, QB Quinton Byfield, 22 years old centre on
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the Los Angeles Kings, projected to be line 2 and power play.
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One question mark. The question, that's a big
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question. Mark it is.
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It's a big question, Mark. I like it.
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It's a great pick. I think this makes a lot of
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sense for him in this spot on this list.
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Absolutely. The one thing I don't love about
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LA in general is that they don't score like they're middle of the
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pack of goals for team. So obviously for someone who I
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think we're primarily relying on value wise being his points,
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that's where I'm just like, OK, well, they don't score that
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much. They're middle of the pack, You
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know, they're they're not like Tampa Bay or Winnipeg or or
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Washington of last year's Vegas, you know, that's one thing.
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But I love it. I'm a big fan of his and I think
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he will take a huge step forward.
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The eye test, amazing. He looked so good last year and
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hopefully second-half Fiala and him can both become all year.
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Fiah. Field.
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I have mixed feelings about by field.
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I feel like if you guys haven't listened to part one, part A
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already, go take a look at that. But I mean, our first of the top
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ten was Morgan, Geeky, Perfetti, Leo Carlson, Lafreniere and
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Slavkov start the top 10. But I think honestly, I'd have
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Biofield behind Slough and Laugh.
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I think I'm higher on both of those guys and by field and just
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because I think I'm more secure with their deployment in the
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lineup, I think it's gonna be have a better chance of keeping
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it and on a higher volume offence than Byfield is.
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But nonetheless, we saw him break out completely the
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second-half of last year. I mean, not a complete breakout,
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but we saw a couple months of him having good production with
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Kevin Fiala. The question is just can you
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keep that going this year, first of all?
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And does his deployment get even better on PPU one?
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Because that's the big question. I think.
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I mean, Josh and I spoke about it on Tiktok, actually, so you
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guys should go take a look at that.
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But on that P1, it's gonna be Fiala, Kopitar, Kempe and
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Defender, right? It's probably gonna be Brutally
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Your Brand or Brent Clark. So there's one spot left, and
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they were running with Kuzmenko last year.
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Do we think Byfield overcomes that guess that spot?
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That's the biggest question, I think.
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Yeah, I think that's kind of been a common topic with a lot
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of these guys on this list, right?
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Is are they going to finally take that power, play one spot
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because that's such a massive boost to value?
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It's similar to we're talking about last year in the last
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episode where that power play one spot is such a boost in
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value. But regardless of that, we think
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both Byfield and Laferney are going to take a step forward
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from last year. The power play one would just
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make it a much bigger step forward.
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So I do think Byfield gets it eventually.
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I think they probably start with Kuzmenko there.
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But The thing is that there's a lot of pressure on LA this year.
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They've lost Edmonton in the first round four years straight.
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Obviously that's more of playoff issues than regular season
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issues, but you can't just flip a switch in the playoffs.
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You have to start good and habits and building up good team
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chemistry and whatever, like early in the season.
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So I think when you've got a player of this pedigree who's
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shown that he's taking a big step towards the end of last
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year, it'd be a shame to lose out on his full potential for a
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guy like Kuzmenko who just picked up for scraps and you're
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not really attached to it all. And also like to add on to that,
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I think we saw, I mean, listen, Byfield was I feel like far from
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a hit in terms of like draft prospect, like he kind of
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struggled the first couple of years of his of his career.
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So now the fact that he finally put it all together and had a
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great season, I think they want to build on that.
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He's also the successor to Anzac Kopitar, like Kopitar doesn't
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have many years left, right? And besides that, I mean, they
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have filled to know who he's not A1C on a team, right?
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He can be a 2C at this point of his career, probably more of a
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3C. But Byfield, the next guy up,
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and I feel they want to set him up for success.
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So I think they have to do what's best for the team and
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give him some more opportunity. Yeah, that's a really good
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point. Cause to think long term and not
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just this season. And Kopitar has like Max 2 years
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left. I think this might be his last
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year. I think he might have I'm, I'm
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not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but he's definitely
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got Max 2 years left and by fields of the future guy.
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So they've got to make the right decision for the future.
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Yeah, I mean, they signed Corey Perry, so they're gonna lose in
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the Stanley Cup Finals. So there's probably is shaping
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up to be competitors last year. The one thing I'll say is that
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probably of everybody on our list from both part A&B, he has
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the biggest volatility because he doesn't really have the back
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hats to back it up. So I think that he can really
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just not exceed what he did last year or literally get like 90
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points. Like there's like a 40 point,
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you know, swing one way or the other and I won't be surprised.
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Yeah. And also just to clarify, so
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Kopitar did say that he's not seeing a contract extension and
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his contract ends this year. So I think this might be his
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last year, in which case, you know, the whole by field future
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centre, Let's set him up is a big story there.
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Is always going to be the one seed this year.
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They're not gonna be here last year, play on the fourth line,
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but they wanna give him definitely opportunities to be
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good and I think people one is the perfect chance to do that.
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Do we pick like, just out of curiosity, do you pick Leo
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Carlson or? Quinton, I was just thinking
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that I was about to ask actually.
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So you're learning well, just. Student that's still a
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grasshopper. That's a good.
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One, I think I'm going with Byfield though, I really like,
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it's tough because you always have that bias, right?
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When you have a guy on your team during the period where he
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performs really well and then you always remember the good
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feeling associated with that. So I had Byfield towards the end
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of last year and he really was popping off, you know,
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obviously. Think about Jackie dropped.
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Him. Yeah, and Jake is in the
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opposite boat where he had Leo Carlson not that causing
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necessarily popped off, but he was solid and Jakey liked having
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him, you know, so I'm sure he has more attachment to Carlson,
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but but trying to keep that bias aside, I just think Byfield this
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just further along in his development exhaustion is so
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he's look long term who might be the better one maybe probably
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Carlson, but and this year I'm going by field.
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Yeah, I'm going by field as well.
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Yeah, Yeah, I think so. So I wonder if there's going to
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be like an ADP discrepancy though.
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I feel like Carlson's gonna go lower, so maybe you'll also be
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happy. Yeah, See, I do think Byfield is
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probably gonna have a better year, though.
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But which will kind of return on their value ADP wise going into
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next season because of their performance?
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I don't know. I feel like Byfield will end up
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getting drafted around like 8:00 to 10:00-ish.
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This year, that's fair. I see that.
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Would you rather have a Quentin Byfield or Gabe Vilardi?
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I love gay polarity, I think. I think I gotta go with my boy
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Gabe. I'm just more excited to see
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what Bayfield can do. This is just one of those like
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all enjoy watching it more if I. Have, I think, I think Mayfield
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has some category coverage in his in his profile.
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Like, it's not, yeah, he's not gonna get straight zeros like
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Gabe Vilardi, but. Hey Gabe Vilardi will get you
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the exact amount of shots for the amount of goals he scored
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that game probably. Watch people already leave the
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league Goals this year 150. First, yeah, alright, let's move
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on to the top 4, which I think this is like a tier starting
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from here on out for the top four.
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I think there's a tier above. Can I do it?
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And I'm really excited about these.
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Kevin set us up. #4. At #4 Another guy I had the joy
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of owning towards the end of last season.
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Dylan Holloway, 23 years old on Saint Louis, the subject of an
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offer sheet last offseason. Left wing line 2 power play.
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One to think that he used to be on the Oilers is wild, right?
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Like what? What could have been?
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If they don't screw that up, I think they could have won the
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cup last year. But does he have, you know, the
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breakout that he did at the end of last season, You know, those
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last few months of Saint was just being insane?
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Does that happen to Holloway if he's on Oilers?
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No, he would have been capped for sure in terms of his
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deployment, but I think he still would have provided a lot of
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good depth to the Oilers they could have really used.
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Because I mean, listen, we're, we're banking on a huge breakout
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this upcoming upcoming season, but he kind of low key broke out
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a little bit towards the end of last season where.
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It was high key if you. Were it wasn't too low key over
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a point per game. He will point per game and
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almost a triple triple. He was one of the best bangers
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in in the entire league last year.
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He was like, exactly, he said. Almost a triple, triple.
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That's extremely rare. Do you expect more of the same
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this year on Saint Louis, or do they keep their hot streak
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going? Do they kind of like, you know,
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regress a little bit and it kind of stagnates through the year?
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Well, let's just say this in terms of his overall like a
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season like how he did yeah, he he had on the season he had .8
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points per game, 2.3 shots and 2.15 hits, which is already
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really good right? And he only really turned it on
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in the last let's say post Four Nations when the Blues went on
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their insane run. So that just shows how
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absolutely absurd he was in that last stretch.
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So I think that even though that last stretch was probably, you
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know, way too high for for what we could expect season long, I
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think it averages out to him being easily like point per game
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and then 2.5 shots, 2.5 hits, something like that, which is an
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amazing player. That's like, if that's, you
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know, you're getting that going in, that's drafted in the top
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three rounds, obviously. 34 rounds.
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Obviously you don't know that, which is why it may not happen
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and like the whole name thing, right?
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He does not like the one of the household game yet, just yet.
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But but I think there's a lot, a lot of value to be had here.
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I'm. Sure there are.
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There are amazing coaches who are horrible for fantasy, and
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then there's coaches who are Top Gear coaches that also really
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support their players. And Montgomery coexisted with
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Pasternak being like. Everyone used to coach Pat and
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they got rid of him and Boston was still the worst team in the
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league. Crazy.
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I like, you know, that year I'm looking at the Bruins.
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Pasternak got 113 points, Marshall got 67 and 73.
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Like, you know, point per game plus players.
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Obviously we're not expecting a Pasternack type performance
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points wise, but Holloway is definitely gonna be a huge part
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of the Blue success this year because of how good of a coach
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he is. I think they're going to take a
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step forward and definitely be a top team coming out of the West.
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I don't even necessarily think they have the roster for it.
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I just believe that they're they're coached by the guy.
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I think he's probably the best coach in the NHL and they have a
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good enough roster to support it.
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And for bangers, I mean, I think this is a stellar, stellar pick.
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Do you take him or switching to call?
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Him for sure. Yeah, I actually call has been
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kind of like the the the bar set for like bangers because he's
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been, he's a double, double every year and he hovers around
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as well point per game. And if you're in Pimm's banger
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leagues as well, he's also like a Unicorn for that.
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But we kind of see, I feel like every year he he doesn't hit his
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ceiling or what we expect, even though he's giving you the
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category coverage. So I feel like every year he
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gets less and less appealing, but all the way might be.
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Yeah, I have a good one. I have a good one.
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This is for both of you. This is particularly for Josh,
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because I feel like he loves all the way and he's low on this
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following team. Do you take Holloway or
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Ovechkin? Holloway, no question.
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I would also think wow. Actually a spoiler for next
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week's episode of Biggest trap players, but I've got a certain
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certain all time goal scoring leader.
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On that list. I wonder who it could be?
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Jake, you're taking over you over Holloway.
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I think so. Interesting.
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Crazy. What is he gonna chase this
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year? There's just something about
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like a team that literally like feeds you productivity like but
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they. Feed them towards the goal and
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the goal is passed. He hasn't scored 1000 goals.
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Yeah, it does need to be fed the whole year to hit 1000 though.
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Said whatever. It is Jiggies 100% getting over
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next year. I know it's rough to around
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3:00. So Holloway isn't.
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Oh man, imagine a team with Holloway, Slomkowski and Brady's
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Chuck. That's what dreams are made of,
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yeah. That's.
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That's I can't wait for us to do more draft content.
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That's going to be. Nice, I know it's.
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Gonna be already OK, we're getting carried away.
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Yeah, yeah, OK. I wanna, I wanna, yeah.
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I was gonna say I wanted to end this with, I feel the only thing
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that could potentially hold Holloway back is if the lines
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get scrambled too much and he's not allowed to be physical on
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his line anymore. Because I feel like they don't
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have any set lines. Like when I look at their
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lineup, it's they have I think 5 or I would say 5 pretty solid
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wingers that could end all interchange between line 1-2 and
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three. So we're just kind of ends up
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where he's going to play. I I feel like they're going to
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find a way to get the most out of them.
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So I'm not too worried, but that's like the only way I see
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that this doesn't work. Out, yeah, I think that makes a
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lot of sense. But I think to Jake's point,
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Montgomery is one of those coaches that I trust with having
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my fantasy players on their team and.
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They figured it out last year so they should do the same This.
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Year. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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So. So yeah, very high on Holloway.
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Just before moving on real quick, I wanna get to the point
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where we choose another player overhaul away.
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So what about? I don't know, Kevin, do you have
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a good one? Let me think, OK, who's who's
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gonna? Jason Robertson.
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Holloway. Josh too, I guess.
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I think I go Holloway, which is I feel it feels crazy.
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I feel like we're two years all too low on Robertson right now.
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No, we're not. Yeah, I'm not.
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I'm not as low on him as Kevin is, but but yeah, I'm super high
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on Holloway. OK, what's Holloway?
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I I think I'd go all the way through.
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Natures. Allowed I.
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He loves you. Just was gonna say it.
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He just, but I was like nothing. He's obviously gonna say
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anything. There you see that?
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Yeah. So that's my split the
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difference there. OK, I'll no Marin.
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No, you gotta take Banaron. You gotta take.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. As much as I feel like I'd enjoy
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having Holloway on my team more, Nielander's the right choice.
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No, you gotta take Nylander. Nylander OK, that's a good one.
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Stop. Yeah, that's.
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That's a good bar. Cool, let's move on.
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And Connor? Kyle.
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Connor. You gotta take Connor.
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OK, I was the Connor heater last year.
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I know I was like Connor Truth or you guys were both Connor
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haters. You both thought nature was
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better than him. Philip Forsberg.
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This is a good one because it's actually the same archetype.
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You gotta go for spring though, as much as I.
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Love all the way. Yeah, I just like the shots are
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just too good. I think it's, I think that's
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what it is. Let's go to #3.
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Yeah. Why Johnston?
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No. OK, number. 3 was.
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All right Matt and #3 we've got 20 year old Matt Fay Michkov of
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the recently freed Philadelphia Flyers line.
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One power play, 1 left wing. And by freed I mean that
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Tortorella is gone. They are now roster able again
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in fantasy. That was really funny.
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That was that was a really. Good one, but thing is free.
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Yeah, Tortorella give Matt face sock.
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That's killer. Oh my God, that's.
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So that's where all your Harry Potter fans out there not
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sponsored. You're funny.
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OK, I feel like I'm a little bit more hesitant than both of you
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guys on this one. But I mean, listen, I know he
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was one of the highest prospects.
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I know the Habs didn't take him in the drafts, which we were all
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disappointed about. But I don't think if you wanted
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to come to the house, to be honest, I think it was Philly or
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bust for him. I don't, I don't know what his
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healing is like. Is his ceiling a point per game?
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Is it higher than that? Is he three shots per game?
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No category coverage, right? So it's just about how
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talismanic he can be for this really.
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Squad does kind of in the middle of a I was gonna say rebuild,
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not not. It's like it's like a retool I
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guess. No, I think it's a full rebuild.
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They've committed to being garbage for a bit.
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I think here's the thing which surprised me actually looking at
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a statement last year, I considered him a huge let down,
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right? Obviously the whole Tortorella
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thing, obviously he's a rookie, you know, and he actually had a
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relatively good season. But in terms of fantasy, I
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consider him a let down. By looking at his production
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last year, he was .8 points per game, which is super reasonable.
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Tossed in he, I think he was getting around like 2 point
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something shots. Like that's a reasonable player
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to have on your roster. It's not exciting, you know, So
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that's on a Tortorella team. He's now been freed.
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He's got another year under his belt, and he's this super highly
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touted prospect. He's gonna be given all the time
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and all the tools to do what he needs to do.
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I'm seeing him cracking a point per game easy and I see him
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getting about three shots a game and I see him getting decent
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power play points as well. Would you rather have a hammer
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connect you? I take Michkov.
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Ooh, that's spicy that I'm going connect me for sure.
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I feel like he's just the guy on Philly and he's reliable year
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in, year out. The thing I like about
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connecting is shorties, which Michael will get, but if you're
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in a league like most leagues that don't count that, I think
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Mitch got stealing his way higher.
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I still feel just like Mitch Kov is is young and still has to
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round out his game and and be more of a two way player.
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Like you can obviously be more way more offensive minded, but
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you still gotta be able to contribute on the defence a
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little bit. Well, how about this?
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First of all, you're going, you're getting rid of Tordella,
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so he's not gonna force Mitch. Gov It's always.
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Blocks of yeah, he won't be benched, he won't be forced into
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this. Like, you're not playing well
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defensively, alright, you're not gonna get any offensive time.
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But also when you're a team as bad as Philly's gonna be next
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year and you're kind of quote UN quote actively tanking, who
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cares about defence? Let the young guys flourish and
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have a good season. Let them develop.
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You want to learn how to play properly though too right?
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Yeah, alright, just go do your thing and never learn how to do.
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No, you work on it with him, but I don't see him getting punished
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for having defensive lapses, and I see them letting him run
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pretty free offensively, so I think he's gonna have a great
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season. The only thing is I don't, I
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don't, I don't expect this Philly PowerPoint to be one of
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the best in the league. You know what I mean?
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Like I can see them being like a bottom 10 power plant.
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It's just not be like one of those power plays that gets you
21:04
a lot of production. Yeah, but a bottom 10 power play
21:06
where Mitch Koff touches every goal is still pretty solid for
21:08
Mitkov. For sure, for sure.
21:10
I think, I think the the ceiling like best case scenario,
21:13
everything hits properly. I think he can do what Marco did
21:15
last year. I feel that's kind of like.
21:17
That would be. Insane that that would be insane
21:19
if everything his like he's you know, he's like damage off level
21:23
prospect and it all hits. I think maybe that's his
21:27
ceiling, but I think point per game is probably the bar to set.
21:30
I take the under on that though. Jake, do you have anything to
21:33
chime in if you're not? Really quiet thinking about this
21:36
one. This is like a this is an
21:37
interesting one to me because like obviously for a bangers
21:40
league, like you're not getting anything anything in the back
21:45
and I kind of know what you guys mean, but by like you wanting
21:50
him to develop like a full kind of all-encompassing defensive
21:54
game as well. But you know, there are there's
21:58
a whole different dynamic to a centre versus a winger.
22:01
Hmm, if you're a centre, you need to have that.
22:05
And I agree with Josh when he's saying, you know, like, let's
22:07
just let the players do their thing and develop the skill of
22:12
this guy. I mean, there's a world that I'm
22:14
not saying he's gonna turn into Ovechkin.
22:15
That's, you know, nearing impossible at this point.
22:18
But he's 20 years old. And I think that they want him
22:21
to get really good at what he's good at.
22:23
So for me this can be. A good.
22:25
Point A 75 to 85 point Season 4 Mitch Kalvi wouldn't be
22:29
surprised. Granted, there may not be great
22:33
for Philly as a team if they want to actually develop him
22:36
defensively, but I don't think that's it.
22:37
I think it's like we picked this.
22:39
They got so lucky, you know that right?
22:41
Like you're. Supposed to be Bedard.
22:42
Was it? Was it luck or was it just like
22:45
he was telling teams not to draft him?
22:46
Because no, that's that's what it is.
22:48
But they got lucky that he was telling teams that.
22:50
It wasn't even that that he it was he had a like a contract of
22:54
sorts in the cage L that he was able to get out of sooner than
22:57
expected. That's why he fell.
23:00
Otherwise they would have gone second.
23:02
There was a lot of, I think teams were talking to him and
23:04
seeing like, hey, are you interested in playing for us?
23:07
And if they weren't? There definitely.
23:09
Wasn't good vibes. They weren't gonna waste their
23:10
first round pick. On him definitely was an aspect
23:13
of him forcing his way to Philly.
23:14
I don't know what his connection in Philly was, why specifically
23:17
that, but that was part of it. But also there's obviously the
23:19
KHL aspect like Jake mentioned. I mean, similar reason why
23:21
Demidoff fell to the Habs at 5, right?
23:23
Yeah. Yeah, but don't love, I think I
23:25
think also just had more of like an easy out.
23:27
But for for Mitchell, I remember specifically it was like this
23:30
guys locked like on his team in Russia for the next few years
23:34
even. Even so though, if he did
23:37
electively choose Philly, that's an even better sign to me for
23:41
his fantasy production. Yeah, like, sure, he may be a
23:43
little bit of a problem, but like if he goes out there and
23:46
just destroys like that's all we care about his fantasy managers.
23:49
So I really think that point ceiling, at least of the guys we
23:52
mentioned so far, it's look really his ceiling is 100, not
23:57
gonna hit that. I think he could hit 90 and I'd
24:00
be elated. And even 80 would be really,
24:02
really great. I have him and I always, you
24:05
guys always talk in like actual points.
24:07
I'm always in per game mode. That's all I care about is
24:09
always like the future where from wherever we're taking off
24:12
and I have him at 1.1 points per game this season.
24:15
Can I give you guys would you rather?
24:17
Yes, hello. Which cover Robertson.
24:21
He loves this Robertson. Give you an answer.
24:27
OK, so honestly, we brought up Robertson a lot and I'm just
24:30
gonna quickly explain my thoughts on him.
24:33
Robertson is is a really good bar, but with Rantanen, I really
24:36
don't know what to expect for him this coming year.
24:38
So it's like, are they gonna have two dynamic forces?
24:40
I don't know, but I think Dallas is gonna score like 30% more
24:45
goals than Philly so I'm gonna probably go with Robertson in
24:50
case he gets that back. It's a much safer bet as well
24:53
with a higher floor. But yeah, I'll say Roberts in.
24:56
There, I'm going Robertson too. I think Kevin, you're, you're
24:58
too low on him. And I'm very, I'm very excited
25:00
about Mitch off, but I don't think Albertson's one more super
25:03
low. Mishka or Mitch call?
25:10
For sure. 7. Mitch Gov.
25:15
Michkov. What about Michkov or Peterka?
25:18
Michael what? Yeah, you.
25:21
Yeah, you actually. Like the Hymen ones actually
25:24
like decent because I don't, I don't know.
25:26
I mean, we're getting into a lot of tangents with this, but Hyman
25:29
was a hitting beast in the playoffs.
25:30
He didn't necessarily do that in the regular season.
25:32
So we'll see if he can keep that up.
25:33
But that's something very interesting to.
25:35
Look at Mitch Calvert Cofield. Coffield.
25:38
Coffield Oht Wait wait, why was that so crazy?
25:41
Hymen got 44 points in 73 games last.
25:44
Year no human had an awful season last season, but I think
25:47
is he's gonna be line one power play one on the Oilers and he
25:50
had a really good playoffs before his injury.
25:51
So I think he's gonna bounce back, but but yeah, anyways,
25:55
let's move on to. Lucas, Raymond.
25:58
Raymond. Raymond Yeah, Not you're naming
26:01
guys who like are like what Michkov we want him to get to,
26:04
but they've already kind of. Proven it but I feel like Mitch
26:06
cover ceiling is probably a little higher.
26:07
Yeah, yeah. But he's also like much earlier
26:10
in the development, whereas Cofield and Raymond, I seen as
26:12
like they're the finished product at this point, but like
26:14
right about to hit their prime. Mitch goes like a year or two
26:16
out of that. Type of prospect that could hit
26:18
his ceiling sooner than these other guys did.
26:20
Yeah, yeah, this to me isn't it like an amazing, amazing pick
26:24
for the upside in fantasy points.
26:26
But I'm expecting Gabe Vilardi back hats over here, hero.
26:31
I love you already. Yeah.
26:34
So, so depends how you structure your team, but I mean like,
26:38
yeah, it's it's a pretty risky pick for bangers in.
26:41
My view. Because the point stealing could
26:43
be nothing. No, we're moving on to the.
26:45
Next yes #2. All right, the top 2 numerate
26:51
numero dose is a 20 year old Connor Bedard of the Chicago
26:59
Blackhawks centre line one power play 1.
27:02
I wonder if people are gonna be surprised that he's on our
27:04
breakout list. I was surprised.
27:07
I know, right? We don't.
27:08
I feel like you think a guy this caliber, this level of prospect,
27:12
he's already been in the league like 2 years.
27:14
You kind of feel like he's already quote UN quote broken
27:16
out because he gets drafted so high on name value.
27:19
But I don't think he's had a full breakout season.
27:21
Yet he hasn't had a season that's point per game yet.
27:24
That's a breakup. Absolutely shocked me.
27:28
Yeah, it's I'm pretty sure he got the exact same amount of
27:32
points as Mitch called last year.
27:34
That's crazy. That's not good for you, for
27:36
Bedard. No, it's not OK.
27:38
Sorry. Michael got 63 and 80.
27:40
Bedard got 67 and 82. I mean, this is what happens
27:43
when you're a winger for most of the season.
27:46
Is Nick Felino no shape to Nick Felino?
27:49
He's honestly he was a banger category stud for face appliques
27:52
too, but I don't think you want. Him towards the Chicago
27:56
Blackhawks organization for so shamelessly tanking and not
27:59
surrounding their talent with any other talent.
28:01
I know. Yeah, I I mean, it's not like
28:05
they have Bureau Topsy's, OK, they've.
28:08
Got now? Believe you're forgetting your
28:10
best friend? No, I.
28:14
I'm just gonna say don't Call My Name.
28:16
Don't Call My Name. Don't call.
28:17
Me lead up. Let me lead up to the true pride
28:22
and joy of the Chicago Blackhawks.
28:23
Ryan Denado, of course. I just don't think that this is
28:28
still an elite company. Nevertheless, Bedard is a year
28:31
older and this was supposed to be a generational talent.
28:37
I think he was touted like that. I think like you said, Jackie,
28:42
like he's not necessarily surrounded by the highest
28:44
talent. I feel like they have a lot of
28:45
mid level wingers, like line 2, line 3 wingers to play on line
28:49
one. I'm actually kind of excited for
28:51
Donato. I feel like that was the only
28:52
thing that was the only bright spot last year that they had
28:54
some sort of connection and chemistry together.
28:57
So the fact that they resigned Donato?
28:59
Because everyone expected to be gone at the deadline.
29:03
Stayed where he has success and and got paid because I don't
29:06
know if he's at that level of success anywhere else.
29:09
And I think that's the only silver lining that I feel like
29:11
finally. But it has a has some sort of
29:13
consistency and he can like take this step up.
29:16
And I've also been hearing some nice things about Frank Nasser,
29:21
who's line two. Yeah, I've heard it's quite the
29:23
1-2 punch they got going on there.
29:25
And maybe that means that the power play clicks more.
29:27
Yeah. I mean, he was the one who
29:29
almost ended the half season, remember in.
29:31
Yeah. And when we played the Hawks and
29:33
the second to last game and there was that whole debacle
29:35
with the shootout goal where he scored it, but then the refs
29:38
called it off and then they called it.
29:39
Yes. Yeah, they have that.
29:41
Yeah, Yeah, No, but but he's he looked really good towards the
29:44
last season. I agree.
29:45
I think Chicago is still gonna be a very bad team.
29:47
You know, he's like Jackie said, it's not like he got that much
29:50
talent, but it's more like the combination of Bedard getting a
29:53
year older and a lot of the other young, like guys like good
29:55
prospects on the team also getting a year older.
29:57
So I think that's this is one of those cases where not much has
30:00
necessarily changed in the in the situation other than just
30:03
another year of experience under their belt.
30:05
When you have a person with this level of projected talent and
30:09
who is clearly the entire plan for the future of this
30:12
organization for the 1015 years, yeah, then you know, every year
30:16
that gets added on is a big difference.
30:20
Do you guys think he breaks a point per game this year?
30:22
Like that's this is the year, right?
30:23
He's gotta, yeah. I I was shocked he hadn't done
30:25
it already and I think this is definitely the.
30:27
Year. I think the biggest question
30:28
though, that makes him elite as his shot.
30:30
Volume, yeah, I agree. But he's been pretty good.
30:32
He's hovered close to three shots a game.
30:34
And for me, that's my bar for like someone that I count their
30:38
shots as a plus. If they're three plus shots,
30:40
then that's like great under them that that's like kind of
30:43
my, my threshold. This is a contract year, right?
30:47
This is his third year. That's pretty huge too true.
30:51
What do you guys think about that whole the whole idea of
30:53
drafting players on their contract years?
30:55
Do you think that's more just kind of like people overthinking
30:57
in terms of fantasy players? To be honest, like we know
31:00
Bedard's getting another contract that we know he's gonna
31:03
get paid a lot of money. He's the future and the face of
31:06
this franchise. If he gets in the 60s again out
31:09
of 82 points. Like if he gets like a .8 to .85
31:13
points per game or or lower. I mean, how much is it going to
31:16
make 7? Like you know what I mean?
31:20
If he puts up 90 points, that can be 11.
31:23
It's a pretty big difference. So in general, I'm not huge on
31:28
the contract year analysis. I don't think it's, I think it's
31:32
almost like you're spending too much time looking into it for
31:34
nothing. But this is a rookie contract
31:38
for a guy with this level of talent.
31:40
Like, I think it's just, it's like a, it's more of a cherry on
31:44
top than anything foundational, but I'm pretty, pretty excited
31:48
to see what Bidard's gonna do. And like, you know, it's, it's
31:52
not many players that hit almost three points per game in their
31:55
final year in the WHL, HL. I mean, this is ridiculous.
31:58
He dominated in the World Juniors.
32:00
It's just when you got to the 23 points and seven games in the
32:06
World Juniors, it's not that's crazy.
32:09
That's actually unheard of. It just can't be replicated at
32:12
the NHL level of course. But I guess the only fear with
32:16
him is if they tank and then get McKenna and their cousins and
32:21
that's kind of cool. But like.
32:24
Hello, Sir. OHS.
32:31
All right, before we before we move out to number one, I do
32:33
want to hit you with a couple would you rathers though you.
32:39
Get Every day we stray further away from God.
32:43
OK, who would you rather? Connor, but daughter Elias
32:46
Patterson. Patterson.
32:50
I'm going with Garden and I'm actually I'm very excited to
32:52
draft Peterson when everyone else is low on him.
32:54
But but I think Bedard. OK, interesting.
32:58
I like like just quick reasoning on that.
33:01
I just like Vancouver surrounding squad better right
33:05
now. That's not to say that I don't
33:07
think BAR could succeed. He's #2 for a reason.
33:09
But you know Brock Besser, like and who else is like.
33:14
They're the colour. OK, wait, what about?
33:17
What about Bidart or Seth Jarvis?
33:23
The dogs gonna get more points but Jarvis has great back hat.
33:27
Well, has very solid. Back Jarvis does it all.
33:29
The shorties and yeah, he kind of just like touches every
33:32
category. Jarvis is Florida Centre right
33:34
now. Yeah.
33:36
Like if he's a centre, I mean that's the centre.
33:38
Right wing eligibility for the final.
33:40
Leagues that like we all, I think you've all come to agree
33:44
with me that anyone on a rod team sucks for fantasy, but
33:47
Jarvis has somehow avoided that. Curse drivers and all.
33:50
Who are the two guys that always make it happen?
33:51
Yeah, alright, let's touch on. Number one, all right, the
33:56
moment of truth, the moment everyone's been waiting for and
34:00
the moment that is not going to shock anyone because this guy is
34:03
amazing. We've got Big Mac Celebri 19
34:07
years hold on the San Jose Sharks.
34:09
The youngest player made. Up that nickname centre line one
34:12
power play 1. I mean McDonald's.
34:17
I don't know how you haven't gotten on this yet, you know,
34:19
but but yeah, so I mean this is a no brainer.
34:23
He's unreal. Last season already he had .9
34:27
points per game and 3.4 shots on goal per game as a rookie,
34:31
unlike the worst team in the league.
34:33
I think he was a second-half like league winner last year
34:36
because of how much he turned up and I think his shot volume was
34:40
just exactly it was it was just insane.
34:43
It was I think he was shooting over four shots a game for
34:46
Stressed during the season as well.
34:48
I think this year he's set up with better talent around him,
34:50
more consistency. I think the Sharks are just very
34:53
young and more offensive driven. They're defence is awful.
34:58
So I think it's gonna be a lot of games that they need to claw
35:00
back into, which means that maybe.
35:02
They're seven, six games. Yeah, exactly.
35:04
So I see a lot of good things ahead for celebrating this year.
35:09
The San Jose Sharks were dead last in goals, 4 per game, last
35:14
year 2.54. That's not gonna happen again.
35:17
This year, no, they're. Despite that, Celebrity was at
35:19
.9 points per game exactly at a league bottom.
35:23
Yeah, it's elite. He's gonna get, I would say, a
35:27
safe 1.2. Yeah, this year.
35:31
And I think you guys think he cracks, you think he's four
35:34
shots on goal per game. I think I think he gets like a
35:36
3.83 point 9. Like I think it's gonna be like
35:39
right around there. I think, I mean, listen, if he's
35:41
putting a 1.2 points, giving four shots a game, like no
35:44
matter whether he gets like 4 face offs or 8 faceoffs, he's
35:47
going to be a top two or three round pick.
35:49
Like we spoke about it on on Tiktok actually, so go check it
35:52
out. But Josh and I debated, you
35:54
know, celebrity and Jack Hughes, like, that's the kind of
35:56
conversation that he's in right now, I feel like.
35:59
Yeah, I, I love this kid. And I mean, he played in the, I
36:03
also saw like after the season ended, you're seeing all these
36:06
clips from the IIHF world champs and he's playing with Crosby and
36:09
MacKinnon and he looks like he slots right in.
36:11
And, you know, that's great. Just mentorship for him over the
36:14
summer. He's got his buddies Eckland and
36:17
Smith, who are also taking another step next year.
36:19
They're all getting a year older with another year under their
36:21
belt. They got Klingberg to be an
36:23
offensive defenseman for them. Who's going to run their power
36:25
play? Like I feel like Eckland is a
36:29
great pairing for him, another young winger, and then you pair
36:32
that with a veteran winger on the other side with Toffoli.
36:35
I think it's just like the perfect combination for.
36:38
San Jose is doing everything for celebrity that Chicago failed to
36:42
do for Bedard. Yeah, yes.
36:45
Yeah, that's that's the biggest reason why I think he's a clear,
36:48
clear #1 here. And I think not only him, all
36:51
these players are gonna take a huge step up.
36:53
They're gonna be middle of the pack for our goals, 4 per game
36:56
and probably one of the worst. Well, they just don't have a
37:00
good decor. We expect Oscar Off to be good,
37:02
at least for the Shaw volume perspective, but I don't think
37:04
they're gonna win many. Games.
37:05
No, they're gonna be. Laughing, yeah, they'll be
37:08
trailing. They have to score.
37:09
I mean that's the best recipe for a top offence to middle of
37:14
the tier offence and that's going to be so great in 63
37:17
points and 70 games as a rookie is nuts.
37:19
Would you rather have Celebrity or Nylander?
37:22
Celebrating. Celebrating for me as well.
37:28
Ah, you know what? I'm gonna go celebrity just
37:30
cause for the vibes. Thought of that.
37:33
Alright, let's do two more quick and more bro.
37:36
Alright, celebrity or no, that's not good enough.
37:41
Phillip, celebrate your brat. Solid rainy.
37:46
OK. Celebrate your rantanen.
37:52
OHS. That's crazy.
37:55
If Brandon was on Colorado, this wouldn't even be a conversation.
37:59
I'm going to Rantanen. Yeah, last one.
38:02
Celebrate your take, Thompson. Celebrating.
38:06
Give me tage. I think taking the score, I
38:09
think scores 50 goals this year. Wow, I gotta go with the.
38:14
And then we gotta wrap. It up in the machine.
38:17
Alright, that's the difference. I'm going to go around it on the
38:19
previous one too. Alright, thank you everybody for
38:21
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