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Episode 313: Air - Part 2 & 3 (SG-U 1.02 & 1.03) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode three hundred and thirteen, Talking Stargate
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  Speaker 1: Universe used to say that is it was the first
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  Speaker 1: time I've said it. Last week we just sort of
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  Speaker 1: rolled fright in sgu Air Part two and part three.
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  Speaker 1: We are covering if you've just joined us on for
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  Speaker 1: the for the Universe adventure, are we.
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  Speaker 2: Coming to the universe? That's going to get all?
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing we do.
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  Speaker 2: Cross Air part one.
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  Speaker 1: There was so much to unpack in just the first
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  Speaker 1: third of this extended pilot that we covered at all
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  Speaker 1: in one podcast last week, and a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 1: other like previous Stargate stuff, Future Stargate. It was a
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  Speaker 1: it was a big chat last week and get Air
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  Speaker 1: parts two and three. Yeah, I coming at you.
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  Speaker 2: I should mention I forgot Actually you do your little
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  Speaker 2: thing in then all.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Mitch, You're made and then we go Brandon mate
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  Speaker 1: pots and pants.
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  Speaker 3: Pots and pans Hey, hey, I should have mentioned it
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  Speaker 3: last week, just for anyone who was curious. The broadcast
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  Speaker 3: version of Air Part one, two and three is two
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  Speaker 3: hours and three minutes. The extended version is two hours
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  Speaker 3: and twelve minutes. Episode one ends at forty minutes and
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  Speaker 3: fifty seconds where cardogoes, But where did they go in
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  Speaker 3: the extended version?
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  Speaker 4: Was that the cutoff? That's the cutoff, that's income here. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and that was it.
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  Speaker 3: The end of episode one in the extended version is
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  Speaker 3: forty two minutes and thirty so there's only another sort
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  Speaker 3: of two minutes added to that.
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  Speaker 2: The end of episode two.
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  Speaker 3: Ends at one hour twenty two minutes in the broadcast
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  Speaker 3: version and one hour twenty nine minutes in the extended version.
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  Speaker 3: The end of episode two is obviously just before as
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  Speaker 3: they all walk through the stargate, and then episode three
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  Speaker 3: opens up with.
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  Speaker 2: Them on the desert planet.
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  Speaker 1: That was a great ending for that for that second episode.
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  Speaker 3: That smug can look on Russia's face he looks back
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  Speaker 3: at Young. What that was weird though, is why don't
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  Speaker 3: they just send heaps of people? Yeah, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're all running short of air. There's infinite
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  Speaker 3: air planet. Everyone just go and walk through the stargate
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  Speaker 3: and just stand by the star blower, just go the
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  Speaker 3: ship and just blow air back through.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know I actually thought of like with that work.
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  Speaker 1: We know that we know that stuff can come through.
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  Speaker 3: But you see he's just like just like getting their
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  Speaker 3: getting their jackets and just like rushing showing me to
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  Speaker 3: sails and just rushing back from the Stargate.
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  Speaker 4: Can they go back through an open worm? Oh, he's
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  Speaker 4: already dead. So what happens in this episode? Lieutenant sorry,
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  Speaker 4: Senator Alan Armstrong gone, he's dead and he can't breathe.
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  Speaker 4: They have to get off and go find some special
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  Speaker 4: sand and the scrubbers.
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  Speaker 3: Should have Gavin. He's still in that still just in
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  Speaker 3: the show allowed in. I mean, we preserve nicely in them.
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  Speaker 4: Let him out? Do they know they do? It's in
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  Speaker 4: a dial They don't do anything special. They're just a
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  Speaker 4: bit of dialogue.
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  Speaker 3: Later on, I do want to say a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of trivia for you for airpart two. If you're watching
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  Speaker 3: the extended version, the trivia I read was the final
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  Speaker 3: appearance of Gary Jones in the Stargate franchise. That's bullshit,
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  Speaker 3: but for now, because we've got the new show coming.
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  Speaker 2: Nice he's not right back. At some point, if Giro
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  Speaker 2: and doesn't get involved.
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  Speaker 4: Gary's not back, you're in trouble mate. Any you could
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  Speaker 4: ruin the rest of the show. But if Gary's not
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  Speaker 4: in it, they go after.
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  Speaker 1: You eventually and they're like you know, whatever team it
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  Speaker 1: is and whatever answers they're searching for, there's only one
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  Speaker 1: man that might be able to help. And they go
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  Speaker 1: on the you know, they knock on the door and
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  Speaker 1: there's just like just a horde of women, you know
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  Speaker 1: from the strip clubs and so all the chevrons. You
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  Speaker 1: can hear having a party in the back. But Gary Jones,
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  Speaker 1: Walter answers in like a dressing gown and car slippers
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  Speaker 1: and car. He's got his combat CARDI gat on yeh,
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  Speaker 1: but like only underwear. He doesn't have long yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: they ask him and he like goes through and he's
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  Speaker 1: like he's just kept all the archives. He's like, what's
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  Speaker 1: keeping it here for something? Nobody has any respect for history,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And he's just like he's kept the ship.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be the guy that gets the mission.
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  Speaker 3: Say for me what I want I want the Cold
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  Speaker 3: Open to be. It's it's it's Walter. He's standing in.
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  Speaker 2: The car park of Cheyenne Mountain with his little box
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  Speaker 2: of gear. He's just been fired. Ah, and he's and
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  Speaker 2: he's looking at his.
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  Speaker 3: Car park and he goes, it took me ten years
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  Speaker 3: to get this car park. I had it for fifteen,
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  Speaker 3: I'll miss you, and then he just walks off into
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  Speaker 3: the sunset.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's in Washington now, yeah, stepped up, stepped up
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  Speaker 4: in the Pentagon or less parking available?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think he would have had to have given
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  Speaker 2: up his car park at Cheyenne Mountain?
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  Speaker 1: Then he'd a transport guy anyway, I reckon if you're
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  Speaker 1: in a place like Washington.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean when he goes back to Shane, if
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  Speaker 3: he ever has to go back to Shyane Mountain, does
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  Speaker 3: he have to reapply for his car?
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  Speaker 2: It's probably still there. He's beaming in with Hernil.
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  Speaker 3: He leaves just park there all the time. No one
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  Speaker 3: can take it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, look, actually, just very quickly because I went
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  Speaker 1: to touch on this guy last week and it has
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  Speaker 1: to do with I don't know his name. Now that
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about Walter, I will just recap the guy
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  Speaker 1: that was the Walter of Vicarous. Oh yeah, just trying
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  Speaker 1: to overinvolve himself, like you know, Chevron four encoded, Chevron
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  Speaker 1: four locked, is that correct? Walter never felt the need
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  Speaker 1: to do this. Walter was like Chevron for encoded, Chevron
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  Speaker 1: five encoded, Chevron falls on the move. We can can
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  Speaker 1: see it mane, it's spinning, it's making a lot of noise,
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  Speaker 1: like stop making yourself sound more important Walter Ewy's place.
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  Speaker 3: You know, maybe that's the line of dialogue that blows
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  Speaker 3: Brennan's entire argument out of the water. Is the whole
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  Speaker 3: difference between a seven chevron address, an eight chevron address,
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  Speaker 3: and a nine chevron address is we don't just encode
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  Speaker 3: the chevrons. We lock them and then we engage when
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  Speaker 3: we encode the next one. Yeah, and that's how they
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  Speaker 3: managed to do it. I said, that's why it's a code.
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  Speaker 3: I think because it's encoded.
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  Speaker 1: He's not willing to accept.
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  Speaker 4: It's a good argument in this show for those who've
• 6:27
  Speaker 4: never seen the show before. We blame everything bad about
• 6:30
  Speaker 4: Stargate on Robert C. Cooper, correct, And everything good about
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  Speaker 4: Stargate we blame on Brad Right.
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  Speaker 2: We credit credit Brad Right. Why because it's fun?
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  Speaker 3: Yes and Airpart one, two and three written by Robert C.
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  Speaker 3: Cooper and Brad Right.
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  Speaker 1: There should we do it for the first one that
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  Speaker 1: felt good?
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  Speaker 2: Unemployed, he's not getting a fly on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: He's not getting.
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  Speaker 2: He's not getting he's not getting to fly to London?
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  Speaker 1: Is he you're.
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  Speaker 3: Right, mate, cup of Tina Muffin and not being invited
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  Speaker 3: to the writer is roote.
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  Speaker 1: I read your filming for two years. You got any No,
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  Speaker 1: not even in two years. You can't can't find a
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  Speaker 1: spot for me.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know, I'm a Greek director. I'm the
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  Speaker 2: Woody Allen of Stargate.
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  Speaker 1: People.
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  Speaker 2: When I'm around, they just want to do better when
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  Speaker 2: I'm around.
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  Speaker 1: The idea that that video that announced where they're all
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  Speaker 1: they're all like zooming in and then like as they
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  Speaker 1: wrap it up, all right, guys, we're heading into production soon,
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  Speaker 1: thanks very much, fans, And as like they start disappearing,
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  Speaker 1: he pops up. He's like, guys, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't they do here Ryan Reynolds do that for something
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  Speaker 3: with like Deadpool or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't there?
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  Speaker 2: Probably maybe your past or something like that. I can't remember,
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  Speaker 2: but no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: My thing.
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  Speaker 3: My thought is Roberson Cooper was sitting at home watching
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  Speaker 3: that live stream at his computer with the with the
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  Speaker 3: glam light on, waiting to get his like invitation to
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  Speaker 3: the Zoom meeting and it just never came.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I like surprise.
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  Speaker 2: Oh maybe maybe I gave him the wrong email.
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  Speaker 1: So I trust that that hadn't come up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still at Yahoo, asks Jeeves.
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  Speaker 1: Are you is Zira? Is there a little issue? That's
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  Speaker 1: that's Riley.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's actually he is one of the three
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  Speaker 4: characters that I actually feel bad for for getting lost
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  Speaker 4: in space and never coming back. The other two for me,
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  Speaker 4: TJ and second Lieutenant James interesting. I don't know why
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  Speaker 4: they're They're the only people that actually care about I think, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think TJ's TJ is the one that I care
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  Speaker 4: about the most.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think she seems the most competent. She seems the
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  Speaker 3: most old school Stargate in a way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she does.
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  Speaker 3: Like I could see her being on Atlantis or being
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  Speaker 3: on Cam Mitchell's team or something like that. Like I
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  Speaker 3: could see that Lieutenant Scott is a weird one, and
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned it a little bit last week.
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  Speaker 1: I really really.
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  Speaker 2: Want to like him.
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  Speaker 3: I really want to like Lieutenant Scott, but I can
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  Speaker 3: never quite get there.
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  Speaker 2: Like Brian J.
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  Speaker 3: Smith, I love that actor. He's really really good. Greed, No, No,
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  Speaker 3: that's Jamal. I thought you were saying you're only going
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  Speaker 3: to say the character's names.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but I just want to specify.
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  Speaker 2: Like Brian J.
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  Speaker 3: Smith, I really really like something that I always thought
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  Speaker 3: was weird is and this is kind of putting a
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six lens on it.
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe what could have been a.
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  Speaker 3: Better way for his character is because we get a
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  Speaker 3: flashback in here where he's supposed to be sixteen, he doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: He looks thirty where he says he's sitting in church
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  Speaker 3: with his with his priest saying I've knocked up a
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  Speaker 3: sixteen year old girl, and I'm like, he supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be sixteen as well, And then in order to commentary,
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  Speaker 3: he's like, yes, I'm supposed to be sixteen, so.
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  Speaker 2: You shouldn't have mentioned her age.
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  Speaker 1: Then this fifteen year age. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So he mentions that his parents died in a car
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  Speaker 3: crash when he was young or something like that, and
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  Speaker 3: he was raised by the priest who then killed himself
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  Speaker 3: with alcohol.
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  Speaker 2: Because because Scott was a Disappointmentcaucott was his appointment.
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  Speaker 3: Scott was a sex pest because he knocked up a
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  Speaker 3: girl at sixteen when he was supposed to take the
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  Speaker 3: cloth or whatever he called it about it.
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  Speaker 2: He was going to become a person or on the
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  Speaker 2: or on the curtains, on the side of the cinema.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, that's that's a real story from
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  Speaker 3: someone I knew.
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  Speaker 2: That worked in the cinema.
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  Speaker 1: I've worked in cinemas. I would appreciate it if you
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  Speaker 1: didn't do that. What are they watching?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, mate, some of the Cuman Centipede. So then you
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  Speaker 3: we sort of cut forward and there's this whole kind
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  Speaker 3: of thing where obviously Scott hasn't really learned his lesson
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  Speaker 3: because he's a sex pest with Lieutenant James. He's you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's given the impression that what they're doing is wrong,
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  Speaker 3: where I don't really think in that situation it would be.
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  Speaker 2: It is for someone who grew up in the way
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  Speaker 2: that he grew up, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: But just the way that they're hiding it when it's
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  Speaker 3: like they could be in a relationship because they don't
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  Speaker 3: like prior to be getting on Pegasus when they were
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  Speaker 3: hooking up peg on Icarus Bace, she didn't report directly
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  Speaker 3: to him, so there wasn't a chain of command issue
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  Speaker 3: like there is with Carter and her ear where they
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  Speaker 3: couldn't be together because of that. I feel like they
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  Speaker 3: could just be in a relationship, but he's giving off
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  Speaker 3: kind of these boy vibes and a.
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  Speaker 2: Bit of a sex pest.
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  Speaker 3: He's obviously kind of quickly because then and Mitch, I
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: guess you might have seen a little bit of it
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  Speaker 3: here at the end of episode three where suddenly now
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  Speaker 3: he's working on Chloe and there's kind of this thing
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  Speaker 3: between Chloe and Scott as well, even the.
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  Speaker 1: Very first scene where Eli walked in and saw in
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  Speaker 1: the ship and she was very cute and gorgeous. You
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  Speaker 1: get it, Yeah, absolutely get it.
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  Speaker 3: And this is I guess, like I was saying before
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  Speaker 3: with the the twenty twenty six of it all is
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  Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, Brian J. Smith came out as gay,
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  Speaker 3: so he was he was gay in his personal life
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  Speaker 3: while this show was being filmed.
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  Speaker 2: He just wasn't out. He wasn't he wasn't an out actor.
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  Speaker 2: So that way, yeah, well that way baby pours up.
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  Speaker 3: So I wonder if you know, and this might be
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  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty sixth version of study is. I often
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: I think about it and I go, well, would it
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  Speaker 3: have not been a more interesting story to tell if
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: he was knowing? Now, obviously the writers didn't know that
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: about Brian J. Smith when when he was in the
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: show but the idea that he was a closeted military character.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know when donas don't tell was repealed in
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: the United States military.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot to look that up.
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  Speaker 3: But though I don't know whether you could be openly
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  Speaker 3: gay in the military in two thousand and nine.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel like the fact that he was hiding.
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  Speaker 3: Hooking up with Lieutenant James, I almost think that would
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  Speaker 3: have been more interesting if it was a gay relationship
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  Speaker 3: that they were hiding in the mid military because of
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: don't ask, don't tell in the military. But also that
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  Speaker 3: could have thrown back to he was in gay relationships
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  Speaker 3: when he was being raised by the priest, and that
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  Speaker 3: would have been looked for, frowned upon by the church.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you mean?
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  Speaker 3: No, sorry, that doesn't happen in the church, mate, not
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  Speaker 3: for a while. Yeah, so yeah, I'm just not sure
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  Speaker 3: if that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, obviously I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Applying modern day knowledge to what happened then, But I
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  Speaker 3: just feel like maybe that's one of the reasons I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't sort of relate to Scott in a way because
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  Speaker 3: it just didn't it didn't feel I don't know, there
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  Speaker 3: was just there was nothing there, like at least with Grea,
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  Speaker 3: I actively don't trust him because that actor is so
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  Speaker 3: good at sort of making me feel uneasy.
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  Speaker 2: And Russia is the same.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, like we said, TJ is just this
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  Speaker 3: ball of sunshine that's under so much stress now.
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  Speaker 2: And no one cares.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody cares, nobody cares. And she's like, I'm medic, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not a knocktor, trying to tell everyone and they're like, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: you're sweet. Yeah yeah, yeah, just shut.
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  Speaker 2: Up and fix it. We need you to. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And technically she's in she could be in full command
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  Speaker 3: if she wanted to do, because as the chief medical.
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  Speaker 1: Officers, she could be pulling.
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  Speaker 3: She could say you are unfit to lead, and she
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  Speaker 3: could just start knocking people out until.
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  Speaker 2: She's the one in charge, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I think she wants that she wants to go home. Yeah,
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: she wanted to go home before they even came here.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, So that's why I feel bad for her.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: So, and Camille does grow on me, but I think
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: that's more because I love MiG Na so much. Camille
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: is very grating to begin with and tends to insert
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: herself in there.
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  Speaker 4: A lot, same as Weird, right, similar from the similar
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: character like traits slightly grating and annoying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but see as far as we're as far as
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: we're aware that, you know, Camille Ray isn't the greatest
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  Speaker 3: negotiated that Earth has ever had.
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  Speaker 4: Mate, So she's she's overqualified if anything, to be a
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: You should see some of thing she can do in
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: this series will blow your mind.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Can you imagine? She's awesome?
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine being as smart and, like you said,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: overqualified as Camille Ray is. To the point where you're
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: part of the Ioway, You're ready in on the biggest
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  Speaker 3: secret the world now has because so many countries are
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: involved in it, and you're working in HR.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like damn, Like damn, Yeah, I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: I think I didn't understand why they needed a HR
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: person on the cast originally, like the first time? Why
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: that makes sense today?
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like they just they wanted someone who was
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: a civilian with some kind of authority, so they they
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: made her part of the Ioway. Yeah that's fine, but
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: but HR, of all things, I'm like, really like, does
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  Speaker 3: that mean there was a HR person on Atlanta and
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: there was a HR person and the SG in the
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: SGC as well, because Icarus Base, like it's essentially the
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: same as like an Alpha site or you know, Stargate
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  Speaker 3: Command or are there only HR personnel when there's civilians working.
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  Speaker 2: With maybe military.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know which of us, Craig, if there's he
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: knows of HR people in the military, who knows.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: We could google it, but we're not gonna.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Holy Holly who a few weeks ago, now, yeah,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and she wrote to us, she said, I'm so far behind.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you finally googled something, and like, that's
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: so far in our rearview mirror because she is so
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: far behind like ten, fifteen, twenty episodes or whatever. But
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, we did that for you. Yeah,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: we googled it. Never again, never again.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: No.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: It's funny when you were talking about last week and
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you said, oh about Rush and if we're gonna we're
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: gonna be negative to him and judge him on the
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: actions that he made, Well, then we've also got to
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: apply that to Daniel Jackson from the movie because it's
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: very similar where he sort of overstepped he's reached a
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: little bit, going oh, you'll be able to sort it
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: out once we get there.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: He just wanted to go.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to go. I just want to go.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I want my life's work to mean something.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so we get some rush and then not
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that that's not that exactly where they end up in universe,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: but like the next step is they also end up
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: on a desert planet where they're just walking around trying
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: to find what is the next thing that we're looking
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I just kind of like enjoyed those parallel fun facts.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: So that planet that was shot in White Sands in
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: New Mexico, it's a military base. The second time only
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: in the entire Stargate franchise to this date that has
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: been filmed outside Vancouver, the first time being a couple
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: of episodes ago with Vegas in Atlantis.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: That was the first time they filmed outside of Vancouver.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Shit, wow, that desert If it looks familiar to you
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: at all, It was used in Transformers two, jar Head,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Tank Girl, and Young Guns Too, starring one Amelia along
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: side Colonel Telford's Phillips LDP.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Wow. I I get what you guys meant you were
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: teasing towards last week in the best we could do,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Like do we need an entire episode? Yeah, Desert plan,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I think for the first time, like after the for me,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: just yeah, watching it from my initial watch through the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: two episodes of them lost in space, they're freaking out.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: They don't know that, you know, whether the ship's gonna
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: disintegrate first, whether they're gonna kill each other. They end
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: up stopping, you know, like they're trying to gate off.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Don't do that because we're gonna hang on. If I'm right,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: It's like really just making this up as you go along,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Like again, what do you know that you're not telling
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: us until after the fact. We get to this place
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, okay, maybe if it was a
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: different terrain or environment. The fact that it was a desert,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it was like, okay, there's literally nothing in every direction,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and do we need to see people slowly losing their
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: mind because of dehydration? Like that feels almost like what
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: would be a filler episode in season five of SG one,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: as opposed to like almost the first establishing episode of
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: this new galaxy that they're apart.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: It's an emancipation, I would say, it's you know, they
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: they had a real code of honor when it comes to.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: What they did in this episode.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: How so that was the other Catherine Powers episode thoughts Tarriot, Yeah,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I just I don't think we need a whole episode
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: on that planet, especially because the spoiler it for you,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I guess, Mitch is the opening of the next episode
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: is it's kind of just cold open and they're all
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: just sitting in.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: The the mess, like the mess that they find on Destiny,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: just having kind of like a jovial laugh as they're
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: eating their slop and stuff like that. It's a very
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: sort of calm, chill, and I think it kind of
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: is a way to set up what the the status
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: quo kind of is before the next emergency.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I just feel like we needed that in this episode.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like a three episode opener
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: was just and like we were saying last week, it's
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: we needed we did more of the first episode Ekeerospace
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, and less of.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like episode one should have been spread
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: out over the two episodes and then two and three easily.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, we get I guess we get the good
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: hero moment with Senator Alan Armstrong.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: That could have run parallel with instead of us having
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: to go to a planet to find the line that
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: we need. We could have found that on the ship,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: or that could have story or that could have been happening.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, I I like the desert stuff. It was
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: just felt like it just dragged on a bit, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: maybe it was I guess it's edited and designed that
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: way because like, yeah, it's going to take ages to
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: find this stuff and they're going to get dehydrated. Ya,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: And there's every possibility in an alternate reality where they
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: did do a vert of that. We're sitting here going
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: it just felt rushed, like it could have done it,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: you know, so it's a catch twenty two sort of scenario.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: It was funny, I think, because they they're telling us,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and also it looked like the lighting had change, and
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: then later on, where not much time had passed, the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: lighting was exactly the same as it was when they
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: first got to the planet. So it was obviously just
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: you know, shot at different times. But they were telling
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: us how long this is taken. We may as well
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: turn back now, and then as as Russia had a
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: good point, there's no point going back the same way
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: we came, Like, we may as well go around at
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the very least just to cover some different territory. But no, Well,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: we've been here for way too long. We've got to
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: get back, blah blah, blah blah. And then they move
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: on to like, see how long we got left? Nine hours?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Are you joking? It's only been three and like you're
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: already complaining. I get that you really only want to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: almost leave it five hours and give yourself more time
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to get back because of how much you know, how
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: much dehydration fatigued and a sort of set in. But
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I guess the fatigue of watching the desert it's probably
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: amplified by the fact that you've got a handful of
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: characters in the narrative saying we don't need to be
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: here anymore, let's go to another planet. And it's probably
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: seventy percent of the audience that they're watching going, yeah,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I agree, let's get let's get somewhere else.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: It also Young says, well, there's no point for us
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: to not stop working here, but they don't. What can
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: they do? Yeah, they're all they're all dying from asphyxiation.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: So it's like I was saying before, like why don't
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: they all just go to that planet, even just for
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: the air, because then that would have preserved the air
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: on the ship longer because they wouldn't have been breathing that.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And you know, I always go like I questioned myself
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: a lot about why Senator Armstrong had to sacrifice himself.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, he was dead on his feet anyway, he
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: was definitely going to die because he needed his meds
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: and his meds ruined, like yeah, they were blood thinners needed. Yeah,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: and he had internal bleeding. So I get that was
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: a nice hero moment for him. He was able to
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: sacrifice himself for his daughter. And yeah, plus.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: They couldn't afford it. It's like it's like.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what was his name, the T two guy? Yeah,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Robert Patrick, Robertatrick.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the couldn't afford him for the series, so he
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: had to he had to go out.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've already got Robert Carlisle, so yeah, we'll
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: go with that. But I just couldn't help but thinking,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: all right, can't we close the corridors around the shuttle
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: or couldn't we use a like a tape that a
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: stick to a keno and lift up and press that
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: button to shut the shuttle? Like why did it have
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: to be a person just because Rush said someone has
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: to go in there and sacrifice themselves.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: That is not the only option. What is it with
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: ancients and dead band switches that had to do underwater?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: It's exactly what I was thinking.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like those like, Okay, that problem itself
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: probably could have been handled differently, but just the idea
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: of watching Okay it was Rush, but like watching a
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: handful of characters sit there going all right, well, we
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: needed to up ranking people based on their skills and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: technical know how because if we need to start culling,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: we need to get rid of the most useless people.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: And that It's like man like.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: See, if you think that's dark, it just gets darker.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that is quintessential stargate for me, that that
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: argument in this Chloe, He's like, how can you sacrifice anyone?
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: And Rush has a great point, yes, And I guess
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: you would talk about it from the military point view.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: He's like, politicians, your dad ask military members, these guys
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: to sacrifice themselves every day exactly, and then she had
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: nothing to stand on them.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like my dad, my dad don't. He's like, hey, Chris,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: blew up. We lost a lot of people, many of
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: them I knew very well. And she's like, I'll bet
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: they were all ranked different importance levels. He's like, as humans,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: all irreplaceable, and they kind of left it like that.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, hey, just as people.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: And that's why I.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Don't think that Rush is the like he's meant to
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: be an antagonist.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: But I believe that when he said yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Because because he's sort of understanding the entire scope. In
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the same way that McKay was a lot of time
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: ten steps ahead, Rush is the same he's trying to explain.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: We're in triage right now, you know, like if we
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: don't do something here in two and a half hours,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: we're all dead. So yeah, you don't want to you know,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: in the same way triage is you treat the patients
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: that you can save. In a situation, if you've got
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: one person bleeding from the leg and one person bleeding
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: from the head, you go, well, I can't actually save
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: that person bleeding from the head. I'm going to save
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: the person bleeding from the leg. Or someone's got to
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: scratch on their arm. They go, you're fine, you go
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: and sit down while I try and save this person's life.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: There was nothing they could do to save Scooter Shooter.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: So you know that that's where that's where Rush was at.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: And then there was that other great line he had
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: when he had to go at Scott, when he was saying, well,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: you're just you're just repeating jargon that you've heard make
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: to make people feel feel.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Pressume that's something you meant to say.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: They teach you an officer school to tell people who
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: don't know any better.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Rushi is just like, I'm not here.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Because even when Young sort of regains consciousness and they're
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: going to try dialing back to Earth and Rush that's
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: like the most you see him lose it and he's going,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: I've thought of that, And then Young says, well, the
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: people have to at least see us trying, and he's like, oh,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: so you're going to kill us all for the sake
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: of morale, And it's like they're both right in a way,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: you know, like if if Young didn't at least make
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: the make the try, we'd all be going, why didn't
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: they at least try?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: What what's the harmon?
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: So he's right, but Rush is also right because it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: like it's like you're going to fail.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And then luckily that whole scenario was taken out of
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: their hands because then Destiny started dialing the sand planet itself,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: so it kind of took that argument away, which I thought.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Was yeah, which I thought, Oh, that's actually handy because
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: at least people from the outside can see, oh maybe,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: oh they're dialing the starget, they're trying to get us
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: free or trying to help us, so they're actually doing.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Something's happening, something's happening for momentum.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think it's just too is for
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a first time or in someone who's been a fan
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: of Robert Carlisle for a while, I would have only
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: seen a handful of his works. But when I and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I've known that he's been in this show for fifteen years,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering why he's in this in a way, like
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: considering the choices that he'd already made in his career
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: up until twenty what eleven was this? Yeah? And nine eleven, Yeah,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: up until two thousand and nine, I'm like, why is
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: he jumping onto the second spin off of a sci
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: fi franchise because of the character and that's the man.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Then I'm watching this, I'm like, oh, no, this is
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: complex shit going. This character is interesting.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: They let him.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know whether they were starstruck by the fact
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: that they could get someone like Robert Carlisle. But in
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: the commentary they were saying the notebook and pencil that
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: was Robert Carlyle's edition.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: He wanted to do that.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: The legionnaires where he put the little handkerchief on his
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: head before he put the cap on, so he had
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: the thing.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Covery's neck, that was Robert Carlos Jackson.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: The music when he in the first episode when he
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: goes into like, oh't know, you see the flashback where
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: he goes into the room and he pulls out the
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: photo of his wife and has a cry while the
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: music is playing. He suggested that music because the backstory
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: that he added into that is he made his dead
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: wife a violin player, and that's why he's obsessed with
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: opera music because that was the music that she would
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: play on her violin. Whatever he's doing, Yes, So he
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: added all that backstory to the character and then makes
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: all these choices that, yeah, makes Rush such a compelling
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: character because, yeah, from one sentence to the next, you
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: don't know what he's doing. I did reference it in
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: last week's episode. I think it's only in the extended version,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: but There's a point where Eli and Rush are talking
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: in kind of the command room, and Eli turns on
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: the keynot and starts recording him.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Did you see that part, Brendan.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Where he was doing like we're fearing for our lives
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: on ye, my heart beating all that.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: That sort of stuff, And then he says this little bit.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: If I could find a way to send all these
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: people hold safely and then return with a properly skilled
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: team to pursue this mission as intended, why wouldn't.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I want to do that? I don't know now.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: The subtext of that is p Eli turning on the keno.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Rush was talking quite bluntly about his motivations and things
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: like that, and then Eli thinks he sneakily turned on
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: the keno. But after Rush says all that, he then
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: tells Eli to turn off the keno, so Rush knew
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: he was being recorded. So that speech where he's saying,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: why would I want all you unqualified people here? Why
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: wouldn't I want a qualified team?
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: You like, yeah, this mother is playing chess? Did he
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: really want?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Did he really want an unqualified group of people here
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: so that he could boss them around to get what like?
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Had he gone with a fully you know, skilled team
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: with Telford, would Telford be the one being sit down
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: and shut up, mate, You're not in charge here. But
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: because of this situation now and obviously because Rush went
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: and had his little secret conversation with O'Neil and has
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: come back.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: And told everybody he's in charge, it's like, yeah.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: You know, and the fact, but I feel like him
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: in lies as soon as the colonel gets up, it's like, yes,
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: game on, Yeah, yeah, I mean, he's such a complex
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: character and that's why Carla.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Took on the role that I think so yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Well, according to him, Cooper and Wright approached him about
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: it and his agent said, look, I got to tell
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: you they got we got this Stargate thing. And he's like,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: I was aware of it, but I'm like, there's no,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: that's not damn my I said, read the script, and
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: he read the script.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, okay.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Which because one of the one of the things I've
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: always remembered about Robert Cartle, like again, I watched the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: full Monty was the first time I ever saw him,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and I was ten years old when that movie came out,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and it was just like, oh, this is fun. The
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: next thing I would have seen him in was as
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a villain in a Bond film and opposite Pierce Brosn
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and like, yeah, a bit of a yeah, a bit
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of a complicated villain there, but like doesn't get as
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: much screen otherwise Marl. And then it was a couple
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: of years into Harry Potter, which was kicking off in
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: two thousand and one, and it just had like every
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: British actor ever, you know, anyone that had a name
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: in Britain, British acting. You're in there and someone must
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: have asked him and he goes, I wouldn't be in
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that fucking shape. And I know he's not British, but
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he he was.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm not Britain. Oh no, that's Ireland, isn't it.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Sorry he's not from England, but he was. He's like,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. That's that's kind of like that
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: shaky sort of shit, Like I dig all that. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: don't think there's a bad Harry Potter film, Like actually,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: really at that franchise, there are weaker ones, but I
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: think they're all pretty solid. And he was like, I
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. Then he
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: went and did that Ergon Fantasy movie, which was a
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: pilot of shit, and I'm like, so you chose that
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: over Harry Potter.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: But it's like he just chooses based on his characters,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: like he did that Once upon a Time?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Was it called yeah.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: The series rumbles.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Rump still right? Yeah, she was super a mate. He
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: did an incredible job in that, and.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: That would have been so good, like right off the
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: back of sgu then because that would have kicked off
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: in like oh was it? I thought it was or
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: overlapped because that I remember watching that. Yeah, like you know, weird.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: When Sarah moved up to Brisbane was twenty ten and
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I remember watching it in that house in the early stages.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: But he's he's a fun little across the universe time
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: stamp for you, Mitchell. This show ends and you and
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I met the following year.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eleven to twenty eighteen. It was Once upon
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: a Time?
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah that's meant like he he he's
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: he's turned down what now seems like, oh my god,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you could have been a part of a multi billion
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: dollar franchise. And I wonder what character they sought him
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: out for, because I mean that's pretty fun. Yeah mole,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that's not Yeah, like that would have been I'd love
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to see him take on that. But yeah, to get this,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I wonder, like that's what I would have expected.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: They go, hey, we've got this, this sci fi show
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and him, like wouldn't have thought so.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: He could have been a good Lucius Malfoy too, that's true.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I I appreciate what they've given such to
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: work with and probably in turn, what he is, what
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: he how he improved that role I reckon, you.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Know, like that's why I think I'm more shattered that
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: it didn't get a third or fourth season just.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: For Robert Carlis.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and yet like to be fit like the the
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: last five episodes of season two, this show found it.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Did he really found it?
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: It was building, the actors knew their characters, you know,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: it was it just it found it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: It found its vibe.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm already worried about that as the first time,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and like I went into Atlantis knowing that it got
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: canned maybe before its time, but certainly like okay, we
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: end it, we're going to do a movie, and and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the movie never happened. So it was gonna feel anticlimactic.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: And yet I got to the finale and I said
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: to you, I would love to see more, but I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: don't feel like, oh my god, I've literally gotten half
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the story. You've left so much you know, open and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, I don't like.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: The only downside with the with the last episode is
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: they could have that could have happened at the end
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: of any season.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, like it feels.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Like the end of any I was just written as
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the one hundredth episode.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah it fell, Yeah, it felt like that. But the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: fact that I didn't get another episode of that show,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not like, are you serious? Like I feel four
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: more years is left on the table. Where is this
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: already now? Again? The fact that only last two years.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: But based on what you guys are saying, and even
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: just when it comes to Robert Carla, I'm already bracing
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: for the fact that I'm going to get to the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: end of this year, the end of this two season
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: run of this show, and go, oh what the it's pretty.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: We could see here for an hour and you could
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: throw out scenarios of what you think happens over the
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: next forty episodes.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, if you had asked me give
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: it for one example, I don't know what I would
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: tell you. I don't know what I could. It's you know,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: like even when we're first following Scott around the planet
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: and he's just seeing all the yeah, and then what.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: The desert sprite?
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm like, we're we're on this galaxy. We've
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: never been to on a planet that's got even just
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the way that they lay they you know, with the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: filters and made the sky look a little bit of
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a different color rather than just walking around a desert
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: with the blue sky. It was like things just looked
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit different. It felt a little bit more alien,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: even though it was just another desert planet that I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even know the first thing as far as making
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: a prediction for this for this show, so that that that, yeah,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's going to feel a little bit.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: Do I think of the FTL as opposed to hyper
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: hyper space? Oh?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Either the way kind of just sort of drill and
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: just wisps and I like the effect.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: The effect is really cool, but it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Kind of reminds me of was it the Return in
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Atlantis where they when we meet that ancient ship and
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: it's traveling at like point.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Nine no no no no no no no no no,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: yeah that's true.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this is traveling obviously much much
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: faster than that. But which yeah, I'm kind of I
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: don't mind it, but I'm like, why we like hyperspace
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: is stargate it's perfect. You don't you don't mess with
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: relativity at all. Yeah, you know that's part of the FTL.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: I guess doesn't either, but they don't really explain it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: That's what I mean about the tech stuff.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was wrong with that?
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: It was wasn't wasn't it cool enough that What I
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: did like with this so is they brought back that
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: effect like if you remember when the first time at
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: the end of the season one of s g one
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: where we gate aboard the attack that we don't.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Know it's a hattack and then t looks like prepare
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: for rapid acceleration, and then there's that the phasing look
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: that they of the we have that now you see
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: that when we go in and out of FTL, you
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: get that the effect again, which I kind of I
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: have missed. So but yeah, it's it's a much more
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: kind of peaceful, organic kind of way.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: That it travels through. It doesn't give you. Yeah, it doesn't.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: It doesn't feel as aggressive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Like though, we got a little cameo of Major Davis
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: came in when he took Chloe to go and see
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: see her mum. Obviously that mum we saw only a
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: few episodes ago. She was the perfect mate for Woolsey
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: in that Atlantis episode, and then she was the one
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: that got murdered with Cam Mitchell. That's right, same actress,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: the genie from an out of the lady, that's right.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I loved when t J drug Telford in Young's body,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: give you something for the pain. She just knocked his
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: ass out, And then the way she was so sassy
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: to like he offsider.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: She was just like, yeah, I want I want, Yeah,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I want Young to be able to wake up in
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: a body that still works, which is well yeah, and
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: she has the right to do that, yeah yeah.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: And it must with your Like if you think about
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: if your TJ in that situation, like as an audience,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: we're seeing Telford in his off sider chick, but TJ
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: is seeing Young and Chloe.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that must that would with me, Like if.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting here with YouTube right now, and there's actually
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: other people controlling your bodies right now. In a recent Lincoln,
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I'm a prick to you, and it's like, and then
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: when you guys come back, it would be hard for
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: me not to keep being a prick to you.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: And and you guys did well. Actually that was the episode.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I think it was only you here, Maddie, but talking
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: about the body swat one with Keller in uh yep
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: in SGA.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, same technology.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I said that I liked it the way
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that this episode did rather than just having juill State
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: walk around and acts differently because she's a different character,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: which you do see a lot, you see both. But
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I appreciated in this that we saw this new actress
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: play Keller or you know, play sorry, play herself, but
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: in Keller's you know, to everyone else, it was Keller's body.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: And then you were like, oh, yeah, well there's something.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: There's something that comes up in SGU And then here
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: we are in bang and yeah in episode three, and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm bracing. I mean, it's weird enough anyway,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: having these conversations, like you just said, but for the
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: mother to have this strange woman rock up to her
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: house and tell her that her daughter is her, but
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: she's in another galaxy somewhere out in the universe. And I'll,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: by the way, your husband's dead. Yeah. Like, as an audience,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that doesn't seem so weird because we're seeing.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Chloe, we're seeing the actress.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: She's seeing some other woman, and I wonder she sit
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: there like I just like drowned.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: And there's a cool thing. It's a blink and you'll
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: miss it. And that's what I was worried about for
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: these episodes, because obviously we said before you're you're known
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: to be seventy thirty sort of doing the washing or yelling,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: yelling at the kids, whatever it is.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I was worried you would you would miss.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Things like that, you know, and be confused when there's
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: body swaps and stuff going on. But there's a great
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: moment where when Chloe is sitting down on the couch
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: like in her home, you see her reflection in the
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: glass coffee table and it's the other actress. So you
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: see the other actress in the coffee table, but then
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: it's Chloe sitting there.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Like, as an audience member, be like, just believe her already,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: you can get over this, Like there's no way you
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: would ever believe it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: And that's what I did, Like that line you talked
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: about it last week, but the idea of the wife,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the mother saying to like some other military officer, like
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: she's yelling at him maybe Davis, Yeah, oh sorry, yeah,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: yeah it's Davis.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he got in a promotion by the way, Yeah.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe just refer to you know what I mean. Like
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: he's just like, I just like, what this, Colonel Davis?
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Too much pressure otherwise, Yeah, and says to him, you know,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: fix this, And Chloe's like, it's not his fault. She's like, no,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you shut up, you go and get this done. And
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you I know that, and if you don't do this,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell the public everything I know. And
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this seems like even before I really
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: knew the importance of what Chloe was to Shooter, and
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I guess his importance in the whole thing. And I'm like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: just the fact that two people in the same family
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: know the same secret, Like how much pressure does that
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: put on the rest of the family. And then it's
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: not like Chloe has to go up and go, hey,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I know you don't know me. It's actually your daughter.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I'm in the body of someone else. To explain that
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: quick history. Here's in Daniel Jackson tapes. Yes, I'm going
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: to come back. By the way, it's me. Your husband's dead.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: You still have to believe, like she clearly knew a lot.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: And then she's like, only after that, I'm gonna tell everyone.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, if you're a bit of an alcoholic and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you already threatening, like, why have we trusted you already
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: in the past.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: To me, my little head canon is that as soon
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: as Shooter found out about it when he became governor
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: or whatever he was.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I think he immediately when told.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: His wife about it, of course, and then I think
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: that's when he got Chloe to become his aid, speech writer,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: whatever it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Is, so that people trust.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: So that he could get hurt cleared, so she could
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: find out about it as well.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: That's my head cannon.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Is fair enough.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: He just couldn't keep his mouth shut about it. He
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: ever shares.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering how it all gets explained because he has
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a role in the government and he's okay. He might
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: have been gone for a week or two but after
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: a while it's going to be noticeable. And then what
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: do they do about? Well, the daughter, And it's like
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: even if you go, well he had he die, and
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: it's like, where's his daughter? She's not around, Like it's
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that's a very complicated absence or duo explain away, he's.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: The governor of California.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: The governor of California has just died under mysterious circumstances,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: and his daughter.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Hasn't been seen. Where is he He's.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Going to get some kind of public funeral that only
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: his wife is going to be out and his daughter's not.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: This is two thousand and nine. Island were still raging
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, so he's probably Yeah.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Did you hear I saw a bit of trivia.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Just as a side note the other day they were
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: saying with the whole Greenland Netherlands thing that's going The
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: last time Greenland on the Netherlands sold any land to
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: the United States was Denmark is when they sold on
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: a bunch of islands that included Epstein Island. Much you've
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: every bit of this, So before we go, I just
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know why, but young walking around using his
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: gun like his rifle as a cane. I thought was
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: a really cool, like utilitarian kind of way, Like I
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: wonder if they're designed specifically for that reason, like the
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: reason that the stocks can you.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Know, so they have that you know, that extra function.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: And then just because it seems so like present and
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: it's just every American, but when Grea hands Eli the
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: handgun and he just points and goes, I have a gun.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh god, it's genetic. It's really genetic,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: isn't it? Feeling like the power I'm wielding, Yeah, is crazy.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm money. In a couple of episodes, I
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: keep getting surprised at what Eli is, Like, I think
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I just expected this boy to get to go into
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: this show and like everybody's military or everyone's invited to
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: be part of them, like you know, or has credentials
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: enough to be welcomed on, whereas Eli's just like very
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: much member of the public and he just happened to
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: do something incredible and then just gets brought in and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: and gets neo but just played a video like zero pressure.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing. If if he was female, he'd
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: be a mery suit, you know, yeah, clearly, but it's
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: super smart.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: But he's a chubby white guy who plays video games
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: and all the all the sci fi knows like, well, no,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: well he's got a crush on Chloe.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: He's not interested at all.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: She to me is actually the one that seems the
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: most superfluous in terms of anybody that's in the main cast.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Like you look at all the military personnel, even you
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: know Camille ray Is and Iowa Hrper, Like it's like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: where did they come up with like a senator's daughter
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: to be like another part of the main car.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, that's that's a really interesting choice. I
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: always like, what does she bring?
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: When I first see Chloe, I'm like, classic baby, basic bitch.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: I almost like almost the scene she becomes something, Well,
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: her character development is.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Quite Yeah, it gets out, it gets out of the
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: shadow of her parents and stuff like that, becomes her
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: own person. But yeah, I almost kind of wanted that
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: the scene that we were talking about before, where Russia
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: is kind of like ranking everybody. I want her to
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: be like careful Chloe, because one up from your father
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: is you in terms of who's the most useless person.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: With that like weird choice is what seemed like weird choices.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Now this feels so much more to Again is the
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: first time I'm looking at this, and again, I'm only
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: watching one pilot, just in three parts, so it very
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: much is this one story. It just feels like it's
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: it's planned so like Chloe, it's like, oh, we got this.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: You know, she is just the daughter of this other guy.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, you come into the writer's room. Okay,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: we've got a governor and we've got his chief aide
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: who's his daughter, and we're going to kill one of
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: them and he killed the daughter. No, we're going to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: kill the governor. Why, well then we can't afford him
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: what she well, she's nothing yet, but we're we're gonna
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: make her something, you know, Like I get that's you know,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: character development, but it just there's so many bits of
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: even just the crumbs from the first ten minutes of
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: episode one, laying down platforms for I guess twists and
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: character reveals that I don't think I'm going to get
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: for ten, fifteen, twenty episodes. We might even get some
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: stuff until season two. It just feels like they've just
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: got ideas of what they want to do with these characters,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: as opposed to you could take season three of SG one,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: and this is not a slight on SG one at all,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: but it's just a different type of TV issue made
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: at a different time. You could watch half of that
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: of that season out of order and it wouldn't really
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: change any thing. You know, it was just bad Guy
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the week, and occasionally there's stuff to build and across
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: on the overall narrative, but it's not like this where
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: it is a different show and it is about it
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: an ensemble more than just like three or four characters,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: and they're just planning for the future.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: And I think that's another reason why this show probably
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: didn't have the viewership that it that it did at
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: the time, because very much that we spoke about with
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: fascape and things like that, it's like, you miss one episode,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: you got a lot of catching up to do, like
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: you all kind of and back then, when you're dealing
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: with syndication, you don't you didn't have streaming.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Services instant gratification.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: You had to wait, you know, seven months for the
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: DVDs to come out and then remember which episode you
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: hadn't what, And by then you're like, you're not watching.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: The rest of the season because you're trying to catch up.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: You're only getting those little previously on and yeah, just
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: on the just on the Chloe thing, just to close
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: off on that is what I was really happy with
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: is in these first few episodes, I very much thought, oh,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: she's just here as a love interest for Scott. That's boring, really,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: But they didn't go down that cliche route. Obviously they
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: explore that, but she's more than that. She's more than
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: just you know, a female like you know, I feel
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: like there's in you know, Stargates done it a lot before.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, the female character has to be attached
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: to a man in some way, whereas, yeah, with Chloe,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: they kind of they kind of try and move away
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: from that and give her her own agency, and yeah.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Would be attached to a man.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Though we look at Carter was always at like it
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: was always the will they won't they?
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: You know, Til was like never attached to it. There
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: was no will they won't they?
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: With Till we do find out at a certain point
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: he was married at some point, but he's not defined
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: by his relationship, whereas Carter was Taylor and John was
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: always the will they won't they kind of thing.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: And I guess with with who's that Taylor?
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: And in those first couple of especially the season one
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: see like the pilot, Yeah.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot of will they won't they?
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of sexual tension between those.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Two second what James, what's.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Her second lieutenant?
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: How is second lieutenant lower than.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: You're the first lieutenant and then you're the second lieutenant?
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Is that like in a way it was a bit
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: unfair on her career because she she just could have
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: been the girl that Scott is having sex with when
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: we introduced to him, and we never see her again.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: But the fact that she is it's almost like again
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: just the way that some viewers look at that, it's like, well,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: she's she's having to come back from being the girl
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: that was having sex at the start, and she almost
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: has to earn her place as opposed to Scott Gun. Well,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: he's just a bro. He was having sex and now
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: he's got a gun and he's kind of leading this joint.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: He's trying to you know what I mean, Like he's
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: already like we're looking all right, yeah yeah, whereas her
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh whatever, you were just trying to hang
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: on to this bloke. Like she's she's already having to
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: work her like crawl out of this hole that she
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: was written into as were introduced to her, where it's
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: like no, no, no, if you missed that first scene, they
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: kind of have equal respect away, like whereas they both
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: are introduced at the same time having sex.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: And in that sex scene, she's like, don't go down't
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: go and he's sorry, sorry, babe, he's in the opening credits.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: She's not.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: She's against somehow he's able to get past that a
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: lot easier, and there are female listeners probably going, yeah,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: that's what we've been saying. Yeah, this sort of shit's been.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Going on because obviously, like Lieutenant James is very much
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: into Scott, but Scott's already by the end of this episode,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: he's already getting touchy feely with Chloe, you know. Meanwhile,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Scott's waiting and her quarters going with is this guy?
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: And like it's my nine pm dicking hour? Like where
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: is he? And also how like he's talking?
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: How is he's got blue balls?
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Like he got he literally got pulled out in the
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: middle of having.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: A James's thirty seconds earlier before the scene started.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: He was done. He just going through the.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Motions he's got blue balls, but he's got a red
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: face from the sunburns, like he.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Never finished that. And then like they've went through like
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: they're on a spaceship, the train one through, like he
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: had no time to like take a piss, let alone,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: go and finish off himself, or go into another room
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: with James. Then all of a sudden he's like with
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: old love and it's like, hey, what's up? And I'm like, really,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you don't. You still haven't got like an inkling, you still.
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: Haven't got too much information never mind.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: On this podcast.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: All right, Well, I think it's time to say goodbye
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: to one of our great characters, Senator Alan Armstrong.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Oh god, how many of these are we going to do? Well?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: He's dead. So the last one, one of the great
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: characters is my owner and welcomes.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: To say goodbye to Senator Alan'mstrong just one of the
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: absolute great characters stargute.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: What is going on? We are on an ancient spaceship
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: and what that means is that we're gonna star gang
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: to get us all back home. To consider that word
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: you're working on it, sir?
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Where is doctor?
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Just just shut up for a second.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: You talk to Yeah, sitting obvious skills feeding in back here.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Help to thrust these people calm, don't patronize my.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: Son, Sir, We're venting Anistel from the damage shuttle as
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: it stands.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Where he says, if we don't get it closed, we've got.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Just over now.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Someone's got to go in there. Close this door.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: My father's not in his room, Greer Senator Armstrong. He's missing.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: He may be headed away, by the way.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Just give me a little more time.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: I don't have much.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Street.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Look, it was a long cone payoff. Calling him Tuesday
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: last week.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: I like, Maddie said the punchline of the joke to.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: See you next yea. That helped.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: But here i was like, I literally the happy Gilmore
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: song and I'm like, oh, yeah, what is this song
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: called together? They're like Juesday's God. I'm like, oh, why
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: did I not see that coming when you said that? Seriously?
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: What is wrong with me? But he's like, see you
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: next Tuesday, and I'm like, yeah, that's the beginning and
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the end of the Friend's playing forty Yeah, I love.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: The air ends on this, you know the this record
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: drop of this you know Maudland song about don't forget
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: to Breathe and meanwhile.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: You end on Tuesday.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I don't like any of the songs because
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: you'll notice in this series, especially the season one, there's
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: a lot of montages, needless kind of things happening.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll see it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: So I'm just adding my own songs.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: What's that horrible medical show, Gray's Anatomy?
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: A lot of those, A lot of those episodes I
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: feel like ended with just like that said Scrubs, because
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: they did the same thing. Yeah, we'd end on like
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: a montage over music.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some of them feel like they're five minutes. It's
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: not a lot. They play the whole song, and they
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: had that in Breathe.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: They played the whole song except sizz Have you ever
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: seen the Rain?
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they nailed that.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Actually, you mentioned something maybe in the group chatter the
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: other day, but something about San Francisco, and you like,
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: maybe it was in a voicemail you sent me, and
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: you like sang the song san Francisco, San France. Like that,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: I think you're telling a story of when you're in
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: San Francisco or something like that. And then the at
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: the end of episode one of Star Trek staffleet Academy.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: When they land in San Francisco, they play the they
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: play that song?
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Did they?
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: It feels like it was worth bringing up.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was happy for a three. But that's that
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: was last week.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I was last week.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: That's part one. Part you restart at the end of
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: each podcast.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: I'm allowed three stargates, sorry, three Star Treks, three Gilmore girls.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I thought we'd left that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, just we all be fine in the way
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: to bring goodmore gels into this, I guess Chloe does kind.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Of look like Rory.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: On paper, don't you. Charus Base is a bit of
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: a freak show. Like on paper it's his military outpost, but.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: In like, in reality, it's a freak show. Rules are optional.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: How could you not feel like that? Well, a different plan.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Condoms are clearly optional.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Obviously, then I have them and I'm meant to have sex.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: So what do we do?
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Well, anyone tried the cream pie, and they've tried the cream.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Pieter comes in, where's my client?
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's that guy that start the chef guy. Yeah,
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Jeffrey boy Chapman. Yeah, unbelievable.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is weird.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Also to name a base after a tragedy where they
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: fly too close to I mean it was Prometheus, someone
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: else it was? It was Icarus and Abides I think
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: was the It was a Christ and Dadalus, wasn't it. Yeah,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: so yeah, it is weird to name a base after
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: that and then looked like a son.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some foreshadowing. God damn it.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Should we just named this one Paradise?
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I did?
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: I think there is a justification there for the whole
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: cast being kind of cuckoo because they've been spending all
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: this time on Icarus base. And let's not forget the
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: bases tapped into a rich vein of Nacuada. Is an aquadria, sorry,
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: is a substance known to warp your perception seed paranoia.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Because Jonas's mentor guy went went nuts from the naquadria.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: Yes, so I wonder does that? I mean, no one's
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: murdered anyone yet, that's what's off the staircase by themselves.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Maybe in that episode, maybe that's also what gave Lieutenant
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: James Thos banging double d's mutation, just just the radiation
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: banging double ds.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: To be honest, when you're like, oh, she's from a
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: few other things, and I like pulled her up on
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: IMDb and there's a couple there.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: That are just like Julie Benson. Yeah.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Ah, it's too many twizzlers for us in the studio,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Red Vine, Red Vine shout out to our your mouth
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: us listeners will be back to talk about darkness right
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: episode four.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Myled Friends, which written by Brad Right, directed by Gone
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: but not Forgotten Peter Delaware.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Oh you're kidding me, Yeah, joking, Nah shit, When it
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: was the last time we saw him.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Season nine or ten of SG one.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Wow, really yeah, when you come back for that, not
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: that I can remember, not for those last two seasons.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: I thought that would No, he left heft the last
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: season Sanctuary.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Hell. And what I also like with our numbers, guys,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: because the part one, oh sorry, Part two, Part three
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: today is that next week's three fourteen, and it's episode four.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: That's going to stick around for a while. Then, yeah,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: good stuff.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I just like that. But I'm making the graphics up
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: and it's just you know, trying to like.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: You're welcome, delicious.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Good on you guys. You're always thinking about me, captain. Otherwise,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I hate causing problems in the record, and I go ah,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Future Mitch is going to hate that. And then three
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: weeks later I sit down and edit it and I go,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: are you right? I hate it? God damn.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Pat Mitchell hates scoring issues in the record. Leading up
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: to the record, future inferment is probably get
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Into geek, get into the gate, get into gate stargate,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: and send me some maass bring