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Ep. 279: The Buffalo Food Plot Methodology with Grant Woods · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon in this episode number two and
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  Speaker 1: seventy nine, and today in the show, I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: be joined by doctor Grant Woods to discuss a new,
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  Speaker 1: more ecologically friendly methodology for planting food plots that mimics
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  Speaker 1: how vast herds of buffalo and the native grasses of
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  Speaker 1: the Great Plains co existed to create one of the
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  Speaker 1: most bountiful ecosystems on the planet. All right, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx
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  Speaker 1: and today I'm joined by Dr Grant Woods. And if
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  Speaker 1: you're not familiar, Grant is one of the foremost experts
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  Speaker 1: on deer and habitat management for wildlife. He's a wildlife biologist,
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  Speaker 1: he is a consultant, and he's the host of Growing
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  Speaker 1: Dear TV, which is an online video series which documents
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  Speaker 1: all of his work improving and hunting his proving grounds
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  Speaker 1: property in southern Missouri and then consulting with with other
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  Speaker 1: landowners across the country. And you know, I've been a
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  Speaker 1: fan of grants for a long time now. I followed
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  Speaker 1: a lot of what he's been doing, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to have him on the show today because he's one
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  Speaker 1: of the first people with a significant voice within the
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  Speaker 1: hunting space to embrace a new, more ecologically friendly and
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  Speaker 1: productive method for managing and planting food plots, and something
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  Speaker 1: that recently I've gotten really excited about. Uh, with many
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  Speaker 1: of the good things, I guess in my life, this
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  Speaker 1: was this is an idea that was actually turned on
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  Speaker 1: me by my wife. It was about a year ago,
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  Speaker 1: just a little over year ago, I guess. It was
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  Speaker 1: when she confronted me about how I was planting my
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  Speaker 1: food plots. I had just been out on this property
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  Speaker 1: and I was trying to control this plot that just
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  Speaker 1: got overcome with weeds, and it was really frustrating. I
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  Speaker 1: was talking about all the different chemicals I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: spray on it, and how many times I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to do it um and she was She just
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  Speaker 1: kind of looked at me, She's like, why are you
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  Speaker 1: doing that? Why are you spraying all this poison out
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  Speaker 1: there on this place that you talked about you care
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  Speaker 1: about so much, you know. It seemed to her a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, uh, I don't know, a little bit backwards,
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  Speaker 1: and I just told her, well, it's just just what
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  Speaker 1: you gotta do. There's no other way. And in her
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  Speaker 1: own special way, she told me that that was kind
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  Speaker 1: of a bullshit excuse. She said, there's gotta be a
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  Speaker 1: better way. Don't be lazy, figure it out. And at
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  Speaker 1: the time I didn't really like it. And I still
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  Speaker 1: went and I used those chemicals because I had to
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  Speaker 1: get the job done, I thought, Um, but it kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuck with me. You know. She had a good
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  Speaker 1: point there, as you know, as is the case, we're
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  Speaker 1: probably you and me and many other people like us. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I care immensely about the natural world, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the earth, the environment, whatever you wanna call it, the
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  Speaker 1: animals and plants, water, the air, all this stuff. These things, Um,
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  Speaker 1: they are responsible for the most incredible special experiences in
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  Speaker 1: my life, right hunting and fishing and being in the outdoors.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these are the things that that get me
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  Speaker 1: up in the morning and keep me going all day. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So because of that, I've tried as much as possible
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm treating you know, these places
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  Speaker 1: and these things with respect and with care and speaking
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  Speaker 1: up for when I can. Um. But my wife kind
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  Speaker 1: of made a fair point that maybe some of the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that I was doing, um, which in my mind
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  Speaker 1: was was trying to help wildlife by playing food plots,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I was doing some some not so good stuff
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  Speaker 1: to get there. So so I got researching. I started
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  Speaker 1: looking into it earlier this this late winter, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: late winter, early spring, and started trying to better understand,
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  Speaker 1: you know, number one, understand what I had been doing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, conventional agricultural practices. What you know, what's the
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  Speaker 1: rationale for doing that? And are there any downsides to it? Um?
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  Speaker 1: And if there are downsides to it, are there alternatives?
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  Speaker 1: And the long story short on that is that yes,
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  Speaker 1: there are a bunch of downsides to the conventional way
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  Speaker 1: of doing things, unbeknownst to me. And I'm just starting
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  Speaker 1: to learn all about this stuff now. But unbeknownst to me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, aggressively tilling the soil, frequently, spraying herbicides, loading
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  Speaker 1: up on synthetic fertilizers, all this stuff in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different ways is damaging to soil and water and
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  Speaker 1: plants and animals, and um, you know, I've been doing
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  Speaker 1: that and I didn't really realize that at the time,
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  Speaker 1: but it does turn out that there are some other
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  Speaker 1: ways to go about it, that that isn't the only way.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying, you know, it's horrible to people
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  Speaker 1: do that stuff, but maybe there are some better alternatives.
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  Speaker 1: And I figured, if I knew they're alternatives, I should
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  Speaker 1: probably explore them. So that's what I've been doing, lots
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  Speaker 1: and lots of reading, lots of watching videos, start to
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  Speaker 1: talk to people about these different ways to go about it,
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  Speaker 1: and and there really are some cool ways of doing this.
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  Speaker 1: So there's some things within the traditional agricultural world called
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  Speaker 1: what other people are calling read genitive or restorative agriculture,
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  Speaker 1: in which people are successfully planting crops without disking them
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  Speaker 1: all up, without tilling it all up, without spraying all
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  Speaker 1: these herbicides and secticides, without dumping all these synthetic chemicals
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  Speaker 1: and fertilizers into the ground, and and they're doing this
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  Speaker 1: in a way that is, you know, first, it's better
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  Speaker 1: for the environment, it's better for the wildlife. It's also
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  Speaker 1: much less expensive in the long run because you're not
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  Speaker 1: dumping money into all those things. And at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: what they're finding is they're producing just as good, if
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  Speaker 1: not better yields. Um. So that's that's big news. And
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  Speaker 1: like the food world, but from a food plot perspective,
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  Speaker 1: it makes a whole lot of sense too. And and
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  Speaker 1: that's where Grant Woods comes in because as I was
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  Speaker 1: doing all this research, I ran across some of the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that Grant's been talking about, which he calls the
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo method of food plotting, which is essentially his take
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  Speaker 1: on this regenerative agg process and how he applies it
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  Speaker 1: to deer and wildlife food plots. So that's what we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about today. Uh, Grants going to walk us through
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  Speaker 1: his ration and the science behind and the how to
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  Speaker 1: for his buffalo food plot methodology, this system that he's
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  Speaker 1: developed that mimics the Great planes and how they are
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  Speaker 1: grazed by vast ards of buffalo to create this immensely
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  Speaker 1: healthy and productive food source for wildlife and um man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really excited about it. It's really interesting stuff. I've
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  Speaker 1: never personally gotten this into agriculture and food and planting,
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  Speaker 1: um but but this kind of is a different way
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  Speaker 1: of looking at it. That's that's particularly interesting. So in
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  Speaker 1: the meantime, we should probably just get to our chat
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  Speaker 1: with Dr Grant Woods. All right with me now is
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  Speaker 1: Dr Grant Woods of Growing Dear TV and Grant. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure and a treat for me to
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  Speaker 1: get to catch up with you. Um. So, first off,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time to do this. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for the opportunity Mark. Yeah, and and and as
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  Speaker 1: much fun as it is just to chat with you
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  Speaker 1: about what's going on in the proving grounds or what's
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  Speaker 1: new with me over here. Um, I'm particularly excited for
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  Speaker 1: this conversation because I personally have gotten really interested and
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  Speaker 1: just kind of started learning a little bit about some
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  Speaker 1: different ways to approach managing forage and producing food plots.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been doing a ton of reading over the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks to kind of learn about this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I've gotten maybe more excited than I've ever been
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  Speaker 1: about the kind of food plotting work I might be
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  Speaker 1: able to do on the properties where I can do that.
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  Speaker 1: And as I was diving into all this stuff about
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  Speaker 1: about a new way of producing food plots, a more
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  Speaker 1: ecologically friendly way and maybe more productive way. As I've
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  Speaker 1: been diving into all this, your name keeps popping up
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  Speaker 1: and your resources kept popping up and and I said
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  Speaker 1: to myself, well, I'd love to catch up with Grant
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  Speaker 1: and I'd love to learn more about this stuff. So
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  Speaker 1: it was a great way to have these two worlds collide.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, and that's kind of what I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: talk about, Grant. Is the system that I've heard you
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  Speaker 1: refer to as your Buffalo food plot system or methodology. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess before we I into what exactly that
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  Speaker 1: is and how to do it, I guess I'm really
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  Speaker 1: curious to understand what was your inspiration for trying to
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  Speaker 1: go about putting together food plus system that's different than
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  Speaker 1: the normal conventions out there. How did this idea spark
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  Speaker 1: for you? Yeah, it's really a long history that led
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  Speaker 1: to a pretty short change or short story. So I've
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  Speaker 1: I've been incorporated as an I'm a consulting biologist. I
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  Speaker 1: just didn't really like the university system. So in June
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  Speaker 1: we're celebrate twenty nine years have been incorporated, and I've
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  Speaker 1: literally helped landowners from New Zealand to Canada and every
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  Speaker 1: state that has white tails in between, and in food
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  Speaker 1: plucks a big part of what I do. And guys,
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  Speaker 1: I started disking and sol tests and fertilizer and herbicide
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  Speaker 1: and kind of what I now called maximum input, but
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  Speaker 1: worse than that, I only focused on what was above
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  Speaker 1: the ground by this plants growing more tons, or deer
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  Speaker 1: really eating this one, or you didn't like this one
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  Speaker 1: too well or whatever. As I kind of moved through
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  Speaker 1: my career, my wife Trace and I went to New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand to work with deer farmers short story, and they
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  Speaker 1: were drawing these really funky broadly plants we all now
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  Speaker 1: know as brassicas, not just turn ups with many different
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  Speaker 1: species in Nebraska family and and I actually brought some
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  Speaker 1: of them back and planted them on a project I
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  Speaker 1: was doing in South Carolina for a couple of years
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  Speaker 1: and noticed a bit of a weight gain and some
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  Speaker 1: other factors moving really quickly, and NAT turned into the
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  Speaker 1: company Biologic partnered with Mossy Oak. They were great partners,
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  Speaker 1: still really good friends with them, and designed all those
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  Speaker 1: blends for several years and just had an opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: sell my shares to Toxic. We're still buddies. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to stuff mark meetings more than I
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  Speaker 1: was being a field ballogist, and I'm a field ballogist
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  Speaker 1: at heart so did that. And then here at my
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  Speaker 1: place in Missouri, we've got a few acres of food
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  Speaker 1: plots and like every other guy, trying to save money
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  Speaker 1: and you know, not put quite so much in them
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  Speaker 1: and have better fraud to track more deer, blah blah blah,
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  Speaker 1: And just realized that plowing, planting whatever wasn't the best
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  Speaker 1: it could be. And about that time I started reading
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of the ad guys kind of what you're
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  Speaker 1: doing now, I'm trying find a better way, and come
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  Speaker 1: across some guys and North Dakota all the way down
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  Speaker 1: to Florida that we're using what they call regenerative agg
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  Speaker 1: or regenerating the soil, improving the soil, and I I
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  Speaker 1: kind of talked improving the soil. Men should go to
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  Speaker 1: the feeding and gets another buggy load of M P
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  Speaker 1: and K and spread it on your pots. And these
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  Speaker 1: guys were talking about looking at natural systems, and I
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  Speaker 1: do a lot of native halftab management, prescribed fire, tumber
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  Speaker 1: stand improvement, whatever, and replicating what was going on for
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  Speaker 1: forage crops anyway in the native prairie. And that just
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  Speaker 1: rang a huge bell with me because and and she's
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  Speaker 1: twenty now. So several years ago, Uh, I had my
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  Speaker 1: oldest daughter when she was about three, and my wife
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  Speaker 1: Tracy in Yellowstone. I was actually teaching some summer courses
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  Speaker 1: they're back in the day, and we watched a huge
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  Speaker 1: herd of bison and buffalo getting ready across the Yellowstone
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  Speaker 1: River and there was a little calf standing right in
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  Speaker 1: the front and there's hundreds of bison behind. They're getting across.
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  Speaker 1: My little daughter scream and daddy goes say, but goes say,
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  Speaker 1: of course, you know it had been in the death
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  Speaker 1: of DA didn't go out there. And uh. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, the cat made across the river just fine.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a biologist by training, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sitting there going, huh, you don't cross here much because
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  Speaker 1: that many bison crossing this river would have massively eroded
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  Speaker 1: banks and just scarred land. And it wasn't that way
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  Speaker 1: at all. It was vegetation. And where the bison had
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  Speaker 1: went was pummeled to the ground. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hundreds have heard of bison when you know fiftd pounds
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  Speaker 1: on average, I'm guessing here two thousand pounds on average
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  Speaker 1: whatever cows, gas bulls and where they walked they you know,
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  Speaker 1: in group, not a single one. They pummeled that vegetation.
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  Speaker 1: They trampled it into the ground, and they journated and
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  Speaker 1: defecated a bunch. But they've been doing that forever in
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  Speaker 1: that area. And if you've ever seen a beautiful meadow
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  Speaker 1: and yellowstone, it's incredible for its fertile soil, beautiful in
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  Speaker 1: a tough environment. And that really got me thinking along
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  Speaker 1: with these other guys talking and writing about how rich
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  Speaker 1: native prairies were. The remaining few acres excuse me, Naty Praier,
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  Speaker 1: we had and I do a lot of prescribed fire here.
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  Speaker 1: We've cut about tunered acres of red cedar that just
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  Speaker 1: was dense. You couldn't see why I hunt do anything.
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  Speaker 1: We cut it, left in the place, didn't haul it off,
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  Speaker 1: greate thing and burned it. And the state botanist and
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  Speaker 1: I went one of these areas and only spent a
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  Speaker 1: few hours and like all day, you know, looking everywhere
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  Speaker 1: we could. We spent a few hours and identified a
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  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy six different species of native grasses and
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  Speaker 1: fords flowering plants. Fords A hundred and seventy six, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's rainforest diversity on an old south facing rocky slope
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  Speaker 1: and the Ozart Mountains Branson, Missouri for y'all to don't
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  Speaker 1: know the other arts. So I leave by Branson, Missouri,
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  Speaker 1: steve really rocky country, and I'm thinking, how can this
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  Speaker 1: native habitat be so productive and so beautiful? Lots of
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  Speaker 1: wildflowers bloom met and so productive, and it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: putting all us all together. It was a result of
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  Speaker 1: me terminating that vegetation. In this case, it wasn't buffalo
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  Speaker 1: trampling and it was wildfire, but kind of terminating it
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  Speaker 1: all at once and having tremendous species diversity, plant species diversity,
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  Speaker 1: let alone, as I've learned later, all the beneficial insects
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  Speaker 1: and that aasty word bacteria in the soa. So my
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  Speaker 1: place is so rocky. Fortunately, in hindsight, I've never disc
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  Speaker 1: a food plot here in seventeen years. I don't own
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  Speaker 1: a disc. I've never owned a disk here. Everything has
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  Speaker 1: been a no TELL drill. I couldn't afford one at first,
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  Speaker 1: so I rented one from the county. Most counties across
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  Speaker 1: America have an n RCS office and they rent no
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  Speaker 1: TIL drills if you don't know that, and later just
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  Speaker 1: because boy, when you go to rent a drill of
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  Speaker 1: its planting season and other people are trying to get
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  Speaker 1: the drill, so we end up purchasing one. We have
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  Speaker 1: one now for our own convenience of planting when we
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  Speaker 1: want anyway, So I never disturbed the soil more than
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  Speaker 1: just a little slot where seeds are dropped in. If
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  Speaker 1: you're familiar with the no til drill, there's no till
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  Speaker 1: that You're just making a slot and seed drop in.
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  Speaker 1: And at first I was terminating that vegetation, whatever it
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  Speaker 1: weeds or the pass drop, whatever it's her beside. And
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  Speaker 1: then I figured out what the buffalo didn't use her
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  Speaker 1: to side, And I did some reading online and I
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  Speaker 1: worked with a grouping notes called URTP Outdoors. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not engineering at at all, folks, I'm a logic brained biologist.
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  Speaker 1: Don't ask me to change your spark plugs or do
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. And but they are great at that.
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  Speaker 1: So I asked them to make me what I called
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  Speaker 1: a still buffalo. Know they branded it called the Goliath Cripper,
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  Speaker 1: But to me, I wanted to replicate those buffalo going
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  Speaker 1: across the Naty Prairie. So it's a basically like a roller.
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  Speaker 1: It's but rather than the flat world where it's got
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, six or seven inch metal flares that
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  Speaker 1: are designed or all the way around about eight inches apart.
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  Speaker 1: But they're not straight across it like you might think.
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  Speaker 1: They're at a a almost like a triangle if you
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  Speaker 1: older a slope one for on the other. So if
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  Speaker 1: you can imagine this over voice, when the back of
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  Speaker 1: one flayer leads the ground, the front of the next
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  Speaker 1: player is already touching the ground that way, it's not bouncing.
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  Speaker 1: If this was just like a comb if you will,
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  Speaker 1: and everything's in a row, as your tractor pulled it
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  Speaker 1: with any speed at all, and it was hit miss
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  Speaker 1: hit miss, hit miss, and start bouncing off the ground.
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  Speaker 1: And I wanted this to break at these stems of
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  Speaker 1: the vegetation. Not breaking ap just crimp. It's called a crimper.
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  Speaker 1: Crimp it about every eight inch or so. Because if
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  Speaker 1: you stop the circulatory system of a plant or your
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  Speaker 1: arm or whatever, it's going to die, you're terminating it.
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  Speaker 1: So we went from using really candidly a lot of
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  Speaker 1: round up two or three times a year, so now
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  Speaker 1: we buy literally maybe about a tenth or what we
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  Speaker 1: used to and we don't use it maybe once maybe
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  Speaker 1: twice a year. And explain line a minute. So if
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  Speaker 1: you would imagine this that's got the inspiration, that's just
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  Speaker 1: a thirty thousand foot overview, then we'll get into it.
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  Speaker 1: We've got like right now we're doing this, right now
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  Speaker 1: are standing fall crop which had cereal grange, you know, wheat, ryo,
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  Speaker 1: oats whatever. In Braskas. I've always got some brassas in there.
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  Speaker 1: I know the benefits of them, Samani clovers and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. And there maturing now that most people across
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  Speaker 1: America were seeing the wheat heads or the cereal right
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  Speaker 1: heads or the old heads starting to form. If you
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  Speaker 1: squeeze them between your thumb, there's probably a little moisture
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  Speaker 1: coming out. That's called the doe stage, and plants in
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  Speaker 1: that stage are producing seeds die really easy. They're very
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  Speaker 1: easily terminated. So we take our crimper to steal buffalo
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  Speaker 1: and we pull it behind a tractor and it's cramping
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  Speaker 1: the stems on average about every eight inches, maybe a
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  Speaker 1: rock that skips since every sixteen or something. But it's
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  Speaker 1: breaking that stem, that's not cutting it. Because like if
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: you cut grass that grows back. Right, like cut your yard,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: it goes back. If you cut wheat until it d
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: really mature, it will try to grow back and compete
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: with the next crop you're going to plant. So we
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: use this cramper to replicate a her to buffalo. I'd
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: rather have buffalo. Some people use cattle to do this,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: but I'm not running electric fence all the time, folks,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: So I've got to use something mechanical. Uh, and trample
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: down if you will. It's cramper, trampled down the vegetation
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: and terminated. And then I started thinking about the Great
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Prairie more and get learning from bag people, and we
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: would terminate it and then take our no childrill through there.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: But if we didn't drive the same way, the crimper
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: had been pulled and bogged up a little bit. Right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: You're you're getting vegetation in the cultures and the you know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: in the disk, and it's bogging up. And I took
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: it a little bit of skill. So start thinking about
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: and a lot of see needs on the prairie. A
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: lot of the plants on my bedding areas here make
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: seed before I burn, and so they're falling to the
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: ground down in the duff I used to describe fire.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Those seeds are not consumed in the fire usually. Now
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: they're setting on pretty much bare or at least exposed soil.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: It's not truly supposed because there's a big root system.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Fire only does from the ground up, done new thing,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: blowed ground um, and those seeds germinate really rapidly, but
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: they fail in a natural system before that vegetation was terminated.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: So I started playing with my blends back in the
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: day's of biologic Now I just do it for fun.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I started playing with my blends and coming up with
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: with food plot blends cool season winter crops, fall crops
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and warm season summer crops. Uh, that would mature about
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the same time, or fifty buffalo system, if you will.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And so now I drill. I take my no till drill,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: and I plant in that standing fall crop right here
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: at my place. Now it's been on the food plot.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: It's four to six ft tall. I'm six ft one,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and it's at my head top in some plots, and
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I'm driving my tractor planting into luck. To a stranger,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: might look like a weedy miss. My guys, you're putting
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: seeds in that jungle, and I let Right now, I'm
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: planning soybeans, and I let the soybeans germinate. This freaks
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of people out and get about four inches
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: tall in the second leaf stage, and they don't take
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: a lot because they're so young, they don't have to
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: have a nuch of nutrients. And son, you know they're
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: gonna grow. And about the time before inches tall, I've
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: already planned it. I've planned through standing crops, so there's
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: never a chance for erosion wind or water erosion. And
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: listen to this, hunters, there was always food out there.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I never cleaned the table my annual cobra. I got
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: bucks head down on annual cobra right now, and I'm
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: so pleased with the ant of growth. I'm already sin
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: because they've had food all year long. There was never
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: a day, not one day, there wasn't food my food plots.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I never disked, I never telled, I didn't kill it
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: with the herbicide. There was always food two and sixty
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: five days out the year. That gives you incredible ant.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Bear dirt doesn't feed any critters or any hoof critters anyway.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: So and then after I've drilled and my feedlings are
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: up three four inches. I take my steel buffalo to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: crimper to be live cripper and run right over that crop.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Because now the seedheads on last falls crop planted last
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: August here are so mature that dies real easy. And
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: while I run the crimper over, yeah, I'm running not
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: already these beans for inches tall. And the first time
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you do it, you're going, oh my gosh, it's painful. Yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: but those plants are so young and pliable. They just
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: popped back up, like driving across grass in your yard
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and your wife goes, I can't believe you put those
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: tracks in the yard, and two days later you can't
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: even tell where you drove. Just plant stand back up.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Came away with young soybeans. So I wouldn't do this
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: over a foot and half tall soybeans at all. But
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: young soy beans are so appliable. Other young crops the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: same way, so appliable. They just stand backed up. And
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: now what I've done, just like the buffalo, I've created
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: this three to four inch thick mulch laying on the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: drowned And there are many any wonderful features of moults
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: that could never be accomplished when you plow the soil.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Never one is and and I didn't think about this
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: until I learned, and I don't think a lot of
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: guys think about it. It keeps the soil cool and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: warm so here. I planted soybeans on April tenth this year,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the earliest I've ever started planning by a month, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: right after it wasn't because I thought, well, guys, it's
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be warm spring. And I don't you know, the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: farm's almanac and the National Weather Service, they don't never
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: see him to get this up right, and showed up
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: two days after I planned, it got below forty degrees
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: three nights in a row, and two thos had a
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: real code range, like, oh my guys, I've messed up.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be replanting those and those fields are beautiful
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: right now, beautiful beautiful. I planned about two and twenty
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: thousand soybeans per acre. I never planted by weight, Folks,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I don't say, well, I plant fifty two pounds breaker,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: because soybean seeds, even if you're using the same varriday
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I everyone knows I work with the eagle seed. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: plant their beans. But even even see or any varriety
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: if you've got a really wet year, to each individual
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: bean pod would be bigger. You got a really dry year,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: it will be smaller, and that makes the difference going
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: through your seed meter. So it's not fifty pounds of
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: beans is the same from year to year. Year. You
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: want to look at the seed count on the bag,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and a lot of folks I don't think, no this
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the federal government regulates. So for example, corn is always
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: sold at eighty thousand kernels. They sell by kernel count
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: eighty thousand kernels per bag. If you're buying a legal
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: bag at corn in America, it has eighty thousand kernels
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in it. It may weigh thirty two pounds and may
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: weeh forty one pounds, may weegh fifty pounds. Being on
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the Briday, corn soy beans must be sold at a
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty thousand seeds per bag. The weight will change,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: but it's always one hundred forty thousand seeds per bag.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: So I do some simple math, come up with how
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: many pounds I need to plan to get two hund
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: twenty thousand. I'm planning that a little bit of a
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: high rate because you know you're gonna be eaten some
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: groundhogs are gain some ravage, are going some after the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: first month. I want to end up with a good population.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm planting a pretty high rate. I've pulled
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: it him for right over those beans, and I've now
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: got this motion. They're just like much in your garden.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: There's almost no chance for a weed to grow. It's
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: under four or five inches of mulch. And then that's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: just one thing. It cools the soil and it's hot.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: And I've done this test, We've published it. I have
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a pretty high dollar infrared gun that measure's temperature. I
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: can point it at your forehead, pointing at soil, point
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: at a car, and we all know it can be
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: a pretty nice sentified degree day outside stun's been shining
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit. You lean up against a dark colored
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: vehicle and you about burn your hand. Well, that's the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: solar energy being collected by that dark color. The same
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: is true, exact same is true on the soil you've got,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you know, a brown, and on where you are, you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: maybe a black. You're lucky soil. And that's so I
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: from Wally heat Up. I was amazed last summer on
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a day and the morning, about nine am. That was
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: seventy two degrees here and I took my gun out
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and listen to this this, folks, this is amazing. There was
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: a little place where I turned the corner and my
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: tractor tire and pushed all the multiway. So the soil
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: is bear I try to never have bear soil for
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: many reasons. But the soil is bear by deal. Look
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: turn and at nine am that soil the surface of
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the soil was a hundred and thirty two degrees. This
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: is published. You can see the video on top of
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the mulch close by. You know, I'm talking eight inches away,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: not across the field, eight inches way, so exact, same wind, xact,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: same son, everything the same on top to mulch, which
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: was a light ground. You know it's dead vegetation, thinking
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: about dead grass. Dead vegetation been late in a month,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: really light brown, bleached out. It was in the eighties.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Right beneath that mulch. Just take your fingers spread apart
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: real quickly shined the gun on there, for it can
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: start heating up with seventy two degrees seventy two in July.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Now I want now, I want to share some data.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: This is not my data. This is from my big
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: research university, Okay. At seventy degrees soil tempation, we're talking
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: surface soil tipasure. At seventy degrees, it's the ideal temperature
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: for most plants to grow. And on the moisture in
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the soil is available to the plant. None of it
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: is being lost to what's called evapo transporation or evaporate.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Now the soil at ninety degrees soil temperature, plant growth
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: definitely slows. It's stressed. Remember top of my soil without
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: protection was a hundred thirty two degrees. At a hundred degrees,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: just only fifteen percent of the moisture in the soil.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: We can't arrogate food clots, most of us can only
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: is available for plant growth is lost through evaporation. Evaporation
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: at a hundred and thirteen degrees soil temperature surface, some
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: species of bacteria start to die. Now mostly is all
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that's good year. It was dog on bacteria. You know,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: bacteria kind of has a bad name. Uh, bacteria like
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the human body. Yeah, we we have we get six
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: from some bacteria, but we're covered every gainst by bacteria.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Never believe some cent kilar product folks. And I'm not
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: talking any brand that says kills hunercent bacteria, because if
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you did, and you bathe the next stuff, you would
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: die in a matter of minutes. We have to have
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: bacteria on our body to live. Same with plants. There's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: thousands of positive species of bacteria, beneficial species of bacteria
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: for everyone bad. And if you manage your soul right
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: by the way, the good ones will swamp out the
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: bad rooms to take care of it. You don't have
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to use any chemicals. At a hundred thirty degrees a
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: hundred and the moisture is lost, and a hundred forty
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: degrees also, bacteria dives. You go from soil to dirt.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: It's just chemicals down there. That's why keeping that soil
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: temperture moderated it's so beneficial. So I'm in an area's
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: really rocky soil, it's we're pretty prone to drought. We
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: can get a toomuch rain and five days later so
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: they can kind of dry out there. But since I've
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: started having this martial layer down, my plants can go
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: through much more of a drought than they used to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and not show any sign of stress. Because I'm conserving
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: soil moisture. It's not about getting more moisture. I can't
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: control the weather. I can't irrigate. It's about using the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: rain and the snow that we get and saving it
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: on site for when I do need it. And that's
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: why we all learned the seventh grade bology right, swamps
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and prairies and whatnot. They used to act like a
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: big spun range and then let it out as plants
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: or springs or whatever needed it. But when we disc
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: all the time that huntson that goes away, a hundson
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that goes away. So once I was kind of learning
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the biology or science behind that, I really started doing
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: more into this and my message. So my first step
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: was keeping the soil covered as many days out of
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: year as possible, many days out of years as possible,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And that got me pretty much out of herbside game.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Now I still use some herboside uh in my little
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: small what I call hide old food plots. You know,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: maybe a quarter acre, you know, a half acre pin one,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you are basically a hunting plot. Right, You've got a
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: little high go. Maybe it's a couple of yards from
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: bigger food plot. You call it a stage in area.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: You can get there, not alert deer, and the deer
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: can move on to the big food plot. Now you're
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: not alerting them when you get out of stand little
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: highe old food plot. I plant those two. They're great
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: hunting strategies, but deer used them first, right because they're
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: very secure there, and so they eat all the fouds
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to ground. I'm not building up a muties layer. Since
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not building up a mute layer and the deer
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: eating the vegetation, I don't have a canopy. Weeds are
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: gonna grow. Weeds are just nature's way of saying this
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: soil must be covered to be healthy. Nature doesn't diffriate, shape, differentiate,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: excuse me, between a weed and a soy bean, or
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a wheat or a braska. It just says I want
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the soil covered because that's looks healthiest for the soil.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm kind of erosion and moisture law. So weeds
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: are gonna grow, and there's weed seeds everywhere, folks everywhere everywhere.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Seeds are viable in the soil, some of them for decades,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: some of them for more than a hundred years. I
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: don't care what you do to soil, and I'll give you.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Perfect example, I used to panty to all the deer
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: at Callaway Gardens, big fancy golf place just out of Atlanta, Georgia,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and the family makes some choices were poor big golf
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: courses there. He's like legalized poaching right arount night with
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: spotlight shooting deer to eating up all the pansies and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: zelius and stuff. And and they let one golf course go,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and and golf courses if you don't know this, get
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: more herbicide and secticide, fungicide, whatever side do you want
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to talk about, than anywhere more than actilous, because the
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: guys keep it looking perfect, and it takes a lot
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: of synthetic inputs to keep it looking that way a lot.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: And let one golf course go that spring that fall
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: when we started collecting, a nice way of saying legalized
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: poaching collecting deer. That golf course was eight feet tall
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: in ragweed and all kind of even nasty weeds and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: ragweed because they hadn't been pining all those chemical inputs.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: And nature will cover the soil somehow, It will cover
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the soil. So I figured out that covered the soil
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: was good. And I started learning that not all back
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: too is bad like most of us. A talktor is
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: really good. Back to your soil again. Remember I spent
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: most of my career looking at above the ground. Now
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I'm about focused onlats below the ground, because that's that
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: determines how well above the ground does. Can you expand
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: on why soil health matters and what that translates and
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and I think you're probably about together before I interrupted you,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But also what makes healthy soil? I know there's a
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: whole lot going on underneath or you've alluded to it,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: but um, but I mean I would love to hear
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: better understand the why. Okay, yeah, so soil health is
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: obviously you know, soil level and bloil a lot of it,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and it matters because you know, again the natyve prairies.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Where does everyone want to dear hunt? Right? I look,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: if we're honest, Iowa, Kansas, Indiana, the big prairie states
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I live in. Others aren't melansinsuf Timber And it's my
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: home and I love it. But I should do like
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a week and hunting out in Kansas every now and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: then make me feel like a better hunter and see
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: bigger dude. So those states are banking on are using
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: what was developed for hundreds of years by buffalo and
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: wildfire and tremendous plant diversity, creating healthy soil and healthy soil. First,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the appearance should look like really rich chocolate cake. Really
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: rich chocolate cake is moist and has a lot of structure,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: has all the pores in it. It's not just like
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: solid flour. There's space in between, there's pores. It's kind
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: of light and fluffy. That's exactly what good quality, healthy
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: soil should look like. It's dark, and it's dark, folks,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: not because of where you are on the planet that
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: stay live dark because of the amount of carbon content.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: And every time we disc or till soil, we allow
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: massive amounts of carbon to go into the air. You
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: probably heard about carbon and the arena or he start
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of nasty email. I'm not a great
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: big you know, global climate change, carbon summits, whatever, whatever,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I'm mistaking the facts that when you tell carbon leaves
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the soil by huge quantities, and carbon is the number
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: one element of plant life. Everyone talks about nitrogen, phosphor fascium,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: carbon out system, plants dead period that day, Um, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: have found my soils went from kind of a light
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: tan about the color of a wooden turkey pop call
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to chocolate. And that space in between is critical for
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the right amount of air and water to infiltrate the soil.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Infiltrate the soil again saving water, not counting on the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: rain next week, because we know sometimes during summer that's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Saving the water we get the soil
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: is actually a little spongy, and it's got the right
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: amount space for roots to work really well and for
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: he's beneficial. As I talked to or your bacteria single celled,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: multi cell organisms and then the ever critical man and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I tell folks this and they just they think, no, boy,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: that woods guy even idiot. I kind of went from
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: a deer manager listening to folks to an earthworm manager
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: because earthworms, I mean, this is so serious, right, earthworm
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: are the most important thing for building healthy soil. I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: want to just share a couple of numbers with you.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: And this research is out of Penn State, but it's
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: been redone by bunch of universities. You've got a pretty
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: healthy earthworm population. You think about earthworms are work, you
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: know they're working twenty four seven three sixty five and
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: they winter the working deeper, warm and moist, are working
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: pretty shallow. They errate the soil. They decompact to soil.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: No tractor can ever fracture or reduce soil compaction as
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: well as earthworms don't. Actor's gonna touch every inch. If
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: you've got a tiller, you flock the top watch six
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: eight ten inches. But now you've got your tiller set,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: but right below that you're making tremendous compaction. And I'm
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: gonna tell everyone how to prove that to your cells,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: because it may not believe me. The standard test is
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: you get a half insteel robbed like a piece of
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: reed ball or something, something that's solid on the end,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: not hollow like a type, and you're just putting your
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: weight off. You just kind of leaning on and pushing
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: on it. You're not standing on one hand or something.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: And it should go through the soil just fine. And
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: when it just all of a sudden stops and you
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: didn't hit a rock, that's your hard pain layer and
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: it will always be just an inches. Toube blow where
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: you disk or where you till, like a rhodo killer.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: And the reason is think about a tractor moving forward
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and it's pulling that implement behind. So the physics are
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: such that a lot of the way the tractor is
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: being transferred to that implement. And on a disk, the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: disc is you know, eight inch quarter inch wide, so
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: tremendous amounts of weight are being applied to that very
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: thin space, and it absolutely compacts the soil blow words
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: working so it earns the top, releases a bunch of carbon,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: kills all soil structure kills it. You took something that
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: was loose and now you grind it up and it
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: just settles. You actually can shrink soil. You can reduce
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: to height the soil by killing it. And then also
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: by the way, we're talking about earth worms, when you
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: do that, you kill millions of millions of earth lumps.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: You grind them up, makes a little bit of fertilizer,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: but not as much if you've got them breeding, making
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: more eth lerms and pooping all the time. That's why
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I never feel I almost refused to help any client
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: that tells anymore, because I know so much better. I'm
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: talking lines like I go work on their land. So
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a typical earth worm population can easily easily pop out
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: to not be crude. Two tons a poopy year prayer
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: two tons. Now, if y'all are sitting at home and
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: you google stuff mark right now and you want to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: buy vermic culture, vermic culture is very expensive fertilizer, this
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: worm food. There are farms that do nothing but collect
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: worm food in big troughs and sell it as vermic
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: culture for playing people either farmer, big scale farmers or
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: eat a house plant people. And it's right now about
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: fifteen dollars for two or three pounds. And just think
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: you've got a healthy earthling population as you can get
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: two tons, and that's the logan or more of that
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: applied break or just by letting the worm suitor thing
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: walk to wormsy decomposing plant material goes back to that
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: buffalo or the crimper laying vegetation down, not when you
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: disc it in. You old farmers talked about green manure
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and you disc it in the soil, well, then he's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: got so much air going in here with it that
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that green manure breaks down really quickly. When you lay
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the multi layer down with a crimper or i e.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Buffalo trampling it, it decomposes really slowly, which prevents weeds
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: from German eating and slowly makes worm food all summer long.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: The worms will come up, grab a little bit e
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: piece of the decomposing vegetation, take it down in the
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: soil and eat it. They're varying the mults for you
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: at just the perfect speed. And this is so amazing.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Now you have the world's best, perfect, perfect slow release fertilizer,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: and the worms are doing it for you. In species
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: of bacteria too, they're doing it for you. And in
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: another factor we've you've probably heard of tea or compost,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: molt molting compost and the tea that's the water that
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: drips off that. Some people raise one little home compost
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and they catch the water come out of bottom, put
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: that on their plants and they grow amazingly. Right, you've
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: got this multi layer on top of the ground. If
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: it doesn't rain and it's dry, your plants don't need
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: much fertilizer because they're not growing because there's lack of moisture.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: The rains a little, they grow a little, range a lot,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: they grow more. You've got this must layer on top
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and when the rain goes through it, it takes minute
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: amounts of nutrients m P n K and all the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: trade mentals down into the soil. If it doesn't rain,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: it doesn't release any nutrients. If it rains a lot,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it releases more nutrients. This is the perfect time release fertilizer.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: No system can be better, no manmade system can be better.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And you can do it in the food pot. That's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: what amazes me. So at my place, literally I wish
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: we were showing graphics here my soul test. So it's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: like I'm in the middle of eye, but most of
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: my fields are at the high are very high level
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: of all nutrients. I pay for a fourteen way nutrient
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: test every year. I test every food pot for research purposes.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: And I haven't added any line, any fertilizer, synthetic or
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: organic like poltry litter in six years. No expense, no
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: attractive time, no paying the contract or, no buying the product,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: no running order soil and compacting it. More time to
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: turkey hunt, more time to mushroom hunt, more time to
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: fish because I don't have to spread any line or
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: fertilizer at all. Now my plans to do it, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: let's go ahead. Sorry, I was gonna say. Now there
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: might be people here in this and they're thinking, well,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: that's all great, and good quality soil sounds like a
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: good thing to have, etcetera, etcetera. But they might be
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: wondering what does this mean for the deer and the wildlife?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Does good soil quite to anything else? And I've I've
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: heard you say that plants are the ultimate nutrient transfer agents,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and I've heard you talk about how how good soil
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: equals good food equals a law Hunters are interested in
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: which is healthier and or larger deer, maybe a better attraction.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Does all this stuff that we're doing to the soil,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: maintaining moisture, improving organic matter, etcetera, etcetera, does all that
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: lead to better outputs for wildlife too? Yeah? Absolutely, I
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: want to face there's just one last thing. If you're
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: getting a starter system and you've been using mpn K
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: or synthetic inputs, it's like an addiction to your soul
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: and you can't stop all once. So I advise people
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: all the time. If you've been doing that, that's fine,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: we all learn that's that's awesome. Reduce your synthetic inputs
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: by twenty don't do it all at once, because you
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: don't have the bacteria to earth worms to build up,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and it takes those populations of the wall built. So
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: if you're doing it, do a soul test the first year,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: apply hunt get a good base. Second year, apply seventy
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: five cent. Not about old soil tests of new soil.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Test because your soul is changing. Third years, you know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: drop it, knock it down by twenty cent a year
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and wean off. Otherwise you will not like the results.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Healthy soil is full of not just the nutrients, but
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: all the micro nutrients, not just the mpn K, all
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the micros because these billions, and I want to paint
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a picture here. If you have healthy soil, you're feeding
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: these bacteria, protozoa, earth worms, beetles, other critters the equivalent
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: of about the weight of two elephants a year per acre.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: That's why I said, you can't go this all once.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be mulch on your soil. You've been disking,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: you've been adding n think whatever. And when you have
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: a really healthy soil life, we're gonna call it all
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the earth turns, bacteria everything below the soil. They're consuming
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: about the weight of two elephants a year, and they're
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: getting that from plant matter and really deep rocks. Maybe
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: mi place is not very deep, some place to ten deep,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and they're breaking down that rock and bringing those nutrients
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: to the surface. If you've seen, and almost everyone's seen,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: this tree growing out of a solid rock buffalo, how
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: they cut or something. You're going, man, how does that
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: tree do that? It's doing up by these things I'm
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: talking about bacteria living there helping that tree break down
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the rock and converted to a usable form for the tree.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: When you have really healthy soil, you have healthier plants. Everyone,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: almost everyone has watched a deer sniff acorns, passed one,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: eat one, walk twenty ft into a bean field and
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: eat a leaf here e leaf, here e leaf here.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Only cattle just staying there need everything in front of them.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Wild animals are very picky feeders, and most scientists believe
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: they sense either through light refraction into their eyes, smell,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: a combination of both, whatever which plant leaves are healthier.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: So let me take that step further. You've got a
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: one acre soybean field, they eat every dog on plant
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: and leaf and stem out there. You're in Iowa and
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: you've got a forty acre bean field or forty acre
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: bean filled here eat the edges, of course, because they're
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: sensing opinion predations around at nighttime. They're feeding all over
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: that field, your feet not in the middle, and they're
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: eating one leaf at a time, going to the next
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: best leave. So you grow the biggest deer where they
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: can be extremely selective feeders on the high quality vegetation.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I'll be the first to admit of one acre food
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: plot is never as good as a forty acre bean
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: field because on forty acre bean field they don't have
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: to eat any disease plants, insect and pack the plants.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: They're just picking the very best leaves. They're eating the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: very best. But on a one acre food plot that
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: had n p n K, there's a lot of petroleum
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: products in mp n K synthetic fertilizer versus a natural
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: healthy fertilizer. There's no doubt which one is more palatable.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: And this is shown an all kind of text and
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: a really easy one. It's called a bricks b r
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: i X test. That major is a real simple major.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I have a bridge meater we use on our phone. Majors.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: This sugar content of plants. Do you have a sweet tooth?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: We all know that the sugar the more sugar CONTENTA
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: plan is usually the healthier it is you want to
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: have deer to just I mean, man, they're just men.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: They can't wait to get in that food plot. Have
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: really healthy plants, and healthy plants require really healthy soil.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: If you're putting a bunch N P and K made
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: off of patrolling products out there, what do you think
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: your plans tastes like? Now there? Deary, deary, sure they do.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't really like sushi, But if I'm
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: the last guy on the boat and all that's left
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: of sushi, I'm gonna eat sushi. And that's kind of
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: way deer are too. So yeah, on my place, my
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: deer are bigger. I'm in the Ozart Mountains just north
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: of Branson, Missouri. A lot of people been to Branson. Uh.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: My property is split by two counties, Stone named appropriately
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: in Kaney County Stone and Taney County. Our record for
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: both counties combined recorded Now not all deer recorded, I
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: granted when at but like hunters, like the brags, a
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: lot of deer are. Our record in all of the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: records keeping for these two counties is a hundred and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: thirty one inch pop and young no booden crocketts. None.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: You think if they're killing a lot of booden crocketts,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: somebody would have recorded one over time back when I
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: used to be really popular. Our best deer tag, not
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: our best deer grown, our best deer tag. There's a
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: hundred seventy three inches. We produce multiple hundred fifty inch
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: deer every year. We slam the rest of the county.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not bragging. We've improved our soil or deer really healthy.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: More phones for dough. I cannot kill enough dose here.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I have really healthy deer. We struggle to get our
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: dear population back in check and we shoot it. We're
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: not like, well, we're gonna wait after about to start
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: killing dose. We tag every day we can, from September
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: or fifteenth from boat season opens for January fifteen coses.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Our deer herd is extremely productive because we have very
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: healthy soil perfect. I mean, the testimonies extremely clear. And
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: some of the farmers I know they're using regenerity bag
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: or the buffalo system. Good Nou's great and something. You know,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of my farmers are really busy. They don't
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: take a lot of time to hunt. Man The bucks
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: are producing an amount of pheasants a producing that quality.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Those pheasant a's and the survival rates are incredible. There's
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: no doubt about folks. Another way to look at this
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: is most estaments believed by the researchers that really study
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: this stuff. There was about sixty million buffalo just to
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: the Great Prairie. You know, there were woods and buffalover
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: in South Carolina, Tennessee. They're in Buffalo and every state
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: literally not now, of course, sixty million buffalo in the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Great Prairie. That's way more than we have cattle right
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: now on feedlocks. There's no question how productive soils can
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: be if they're managed as they were meant to be managed.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm going more times per acre of higher quality
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: food with less inputs. Big cost savings. I imagine the
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: long run with that, right, big big cost savings. Now,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: you know trasing, I did get a no till drills.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: That's a big hit. But you think about over time,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: no herbicide, no fertilizer. Must guys, you know, if you've
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: got an ag or two food pot, no, you're not
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: really justified here. What you might do is give it
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: two or three buddies and buy a smaller drill so
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: you can share the costs and have it when you
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: want it. Like I'm starting to see a lot more
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: people do that. Uh, but for me an the amount
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: of food pot acres I manage. Man. Yeah, the drill
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: is paid for itself many times over by the cost saving. Yeah. Yeah,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: So we're we're reducing costs, we are retaining moisture, we're
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: improving the quality of the soil. All these different things
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: beneath the surface are leading to a much higher quality plant,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: which leads to healthier deer. And you're doing all this
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: kind of in in step with how nature design things
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: to be, So you're having all these other larger kind
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: of ecosystem benefits to the to the to the rest
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: of the wildlife around there too. I'm sure that there's
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: some benefits to a whole slew of different species. From
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: everything I've read and from everything I've heard you say,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: this seems like an absolute no brainer if we're willing
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: to get past like the normal status quo, if we're
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: willing to say, Okay, yes, that kind of worked in
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the past, but this seems to be a just a
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: much more holistically better process to go through. Um. Some
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: of my next questions then are and you've you've alluded
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: to little bits and pieces of this as we go along.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: But I'd like to talk start from this from the
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: very beginning and walk through each step, And that is
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: how do I actually do this? And that's the question
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I'm asking right now because I want to start doing
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: this now. I've got a couple of food plots planted
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: on a property that has been you know, managed conventionally.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Right I've typically just ran. I've got one perennial food plot,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: but the other two are our annuals. So basically it
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: goes to weeds in the spring and summer, I spread
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, try and knock them down, and
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: then in August I plant some kind of fall blend
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: of of of cool season crops. But I want to
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: stop doing that now. So right now I've got a
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: couple somewhat barren chunks of dirt with the beginnings of
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: some weeds starting to grow. What would you if we're
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: gonna do this and start the buffalo method, how would
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I start it and walk me through each step from
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: from today if you could? Okay, so let's start today.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: We're talking springing and being really candid. Most soils in
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: America are degraded. Therefore they're very weighty and nutrient core.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: So step one is I'm gonna take a soil test
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: and just see Ryan, and I want to see you know,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: nitrogens have streaming ballatole. May I add that above every
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: acre on the planet are more than thirty tons of
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: nitrogen in the air. The air we breathe is over
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: sevent nitrogen. Now, nitrogen would kill us, but fortunately our
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: body is created to breathe it in and excelled out.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: None of them stays. Nitrogen has a three way bond.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: It's extremely strong and our lungs can't break it, so
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: it goes in and goes back out. But when I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: learned that I had thirty tons of nitrogen for free
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: in the air, and all I had to do is
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: make sure always had some lagoons in my blends summer
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: and fall, I can put that nitrogen soil and not
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: pay for anymore nitrogen. Grant is a happy camper and
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: that's what I have not And then when you build
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: organic matter this mulch on top, it's stores nitrogen better
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: than any of the system non demand. So I'm out
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: of nitrogen bid business. Period. You're starting with let's just say,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: let's call wall is degraded. Soil has probably been disclogue
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: at lower earth worm population. By the way, folks, an
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: easy test when you're starting, take your shovel. Nothing beats
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: boots on the ground. Nothing normal science beats boots on
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the ground out in your food pot. Just think us
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: innag shovel or some people called a spade. Pop you
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: over a big shovel ful of dirt and see are
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: there holes in there? You can tell earthrum channels are lazy,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: or there holes in there where earth lums are. And
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you should be seeing if the soil's moist, not you know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: in a big drought, but it's pretty moist. And a
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: shovel fool you should find a minimum of five. And
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: like last year, in one sollfool here in the olds
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: are mountains, folks, we found thirty six earth looms three
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: dozen and one shovelful three dozen. And really, honestly, when
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I bought the place, I couldn't flip enough ROMs and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: find enough firms to take my kids fishing. Literally Now
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I got three dozen that day anyway, in one shovel fool.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: And it's not uncommon to find ten or so on
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the shovel fuel every time I go out there. So anyway,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: if you're not seeing earth worms, so we know we're
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: starting the ground zero. That's just a really easy indicator
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: of billions of beneficial species about tree, and I do
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: mean billions. If you've got that, you may want you
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: gotta do a soil testing. If your soil test results
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: come back very low, you probably kind of want to
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: add a little n PNK to first year. Now you
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: make a decisions, man, amnest solely committed to the buffalo system.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna add of what's recommended for that crop.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: And by the way, when you do a soil test,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: always tell the lab I'm gonna plant soybeans, dr I'm
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: playing a cereal grain blend or whatever. Because recommendations differ
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: by the crop you're going to plant, so you tell
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: them what I do. I say, I'm know plants soybeans,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Gonna plants soybeans every summer, or at least something in
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: the window soybeans, and I plant small grains in the fall.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: So I get two recommendations I sold to us once
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: a year. My next step is if I've got a
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: bunch of noxious weeds, out there. I'm not just talking ragged,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: but you've got some bad stuff, maybe horse nettle or
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: pig weed or something like that. You're gonna have to
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: control that with herbicide. You're compensating for decades of mismanagement.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: You're not just gonna start all at once, so you're
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be probably the first year or two maybe use
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: a little herbicide. So I'm gonna plant my first if
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I'm planning starting this in the springtime, you know, once
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: my first crop almost always is round up ready soybeans.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: So if I have a weed column, I can get
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: on top of it and not let more weed seeds
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: develop in that top little bit of soil profile. I'm
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: going through the still that i've got, but I'm not
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: disking the soil period period. I'm gonna rent a no
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: til drill. I'm gonna purchase a no tell drill. I'm
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: gonna get the buddy and you know, buddy up on
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: the nochel drill. Some deer coops now or buying the
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: no ChIL drill for the co op, which I think
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: is an awesome system. I'm not using no til drill,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: and that does minimal soul disturbance. Unless the soil start healing.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: We can't kill the soil by disking. Disking always degrade
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: soil period always. Did you know the average solos per
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: acre in Awa is about five thousand pounds per year.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: That's the most valuable consona of any farming. You can
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: google these folks. That's the most valuable thing the farmer
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: owns is a soil, not as tractor, not as silos,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: not as barns. It's a soil that keeps him in business.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: And they don't treat it that way. Okay, soil box.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to control existing weeds, maybe there's fescue.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're starting with a pastor that's real tom and
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: food practice. I'm going control those existing weeds with the herbicide,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to drill right into that terminated vegetation. Man,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Sorry I started to interject, but really quick question on
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: that front before we dive too much further on the
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: drilling side. What if what if there just isn't a
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: way to get a drill. I don't I can't afford it.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have buddies. I can't get one
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: from the NRCS office because they're they're all booked out.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I've heard a few people talk about ways to kind
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: of implement this with broadcasting and some other alterations. Can
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: you speak to that at all? Sure? Yeah, I had
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: actually had that email question this morning from a guy
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: in Michigan. UM So, hey, Daniel, if you after listen,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about again. Um So, a lot of
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: people like that. You know, they got a two acre
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: food pot, or they got you know, on one acre
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: idio food pot on the back of the forty acres,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: but they're tired to see an evosion their food plot.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: What I wrote to Daniel was, I understand that's very realistic,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: and I've been there myself trace and I started with
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: thirteen acres. I have been there. Um, what you can do.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: You're still going to use her beside, even with the
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: backpack sprayer or you know however you're getting it done
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: for with or sprayer or whatever, and you're gonna terminate
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: that crop. And if there's a lot of duff on
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the ground like an o cow pass your big weaedy
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: mess or whatever, when you terminate it, the standing vegetation
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: will shrink up. That's that's a non issue. Son will
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: go right through if you've got years and years of
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: duff on the ground. That's good spreadilizer, but be you
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: either have to dis that the first time to get
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: rid of it, or use prescribe fire. Very careful when
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I say use firefolks, that doesn't mean drop a match
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: and letlon hatch. It means you've got a plan um
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna remove that duff with fire. Fire will
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: allow nitrogen to volatilize, but all the rest of the
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: mentals just go right in the dirt. You're not losing anything.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: So uh, you can remove that duff. And the reason
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: you have to remove duff is you need your seed
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: to make good contact with the soil. If the seed
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: is caught on top of duff and it gets warm
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and wet and germinates, it's unlikely it will get a
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: root in the soil through the duff in time for
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: it to start getting in ergy in and it dies,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: it starts to death. So we've got to have seed
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: to soil contact to get the system started. And in
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: that case, I'm certainly planning around up pretty soybeans so
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I can keep the weeds at bay. And then it
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: was fall time. It's really easy for me to broadcast
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: my fall blend of you know, cereal grains bras because
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I like the brity. I liked at least eight species
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: in the blend, not less than eight. There's a lot
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: of reasons for that. Uh. And not like eight different
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: brieties of wheat. I'm talking eight different types of plants,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: eight different types of of of general. Uh. And I
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: broadcasting the soybeans because now they're weed for either around
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: up brading. And I've got a clean seed bed and
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the secret that makes this work and it can't be violated.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: This is the one short set people always want to take.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Do the work, schedules and stuff. I get this. You
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: have to uh broadcasts the seed right before or during
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a rain. If you don't, a lot of seed will
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: die of either desiccation or you will be shocked at
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: how many rodents and I mean, you know, not just squirrels,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: All the rodents and birds eat seed. And what percentage
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: of the seeds A will remove in a five day
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: waiting period for it rains and they'll see its Germany astonishing.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I harvested a turkey two days ago, not bragging it
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: all right off the roots called him off. The rus
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: come in boom dead ring up the house cleaned him
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: and his crop had a you know, a half of
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: a handful of soybean seeds. Where that rascal been digging
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: in my food plot getting soybean seeds out. Pritters eat seed,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: they love seeds. And you spread, you know whatever, fifty
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: pounds break or on top the ground, and you think, well,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: no one's gonna know. I tell you, They tell their buddies.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: The squirrels start calling all their buddies, and no people
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: running out there till a cheaps full of soybean seeds.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: So do not plant unless it's gonna rain the next
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: day or sometime real soon, or it's raining right then
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: as much of the plant before a rain and after
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: a rain for and also the raindrops get it to
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: soil with a lot of force, a splash, a little
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: dirt up on the seed. It helps to germinate even more.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: And do you need to do anything even if even
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: if we're talking about the spring planting right so before
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: in the fall planting, you've got the standing crop from
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: the summer that you can then use um. But what
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: about the first planting, So you mentioned we're gonna have
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: to use herbicide to get that stuff killed off. But
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I'll just use my example um to make it simple.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: So my situation right, there's some weed growth, but there's
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: definitely open soil still. So I'll go in there and
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I'll terminate the weeds um at some point here soon
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: kill off the weed growth. But then I want to
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: get my summer, my warm season crop growing now. But
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I want to do it without my usual disking and
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: then call to packing all that in So how would
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I go? I'll just go about broadcasting with with that rain?
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Do I need to roll over it? Do I need
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: to do anything else to get that first one? Going
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: rolling hills to call to packer, hilps, get seed to
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: soil contact matches it down. If you have that available,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: that's great. If you don't, I have. I have buddies
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: that you know do this all time. They don't, And
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: typically what they do is they depend on the quality
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: of soil where they are. They plant one point five
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: the two times the mouse seeds. So if what if
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: your planting equals fifty pounds breaker, plant seventy five two
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: hundred pounds breakers and seed is cheaper than you know
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: other other ways of getting this done. So so you've
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: got to increase at planting rate when you're broadcasting to
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: get enough seed germinating, and it won't be a it's
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: not gonna look like an eyeba field where guy uses
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: a twenty thousand planner a hundred thousands or planner to
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: make it happen. You just accept that and go one. Okay.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: And so in the summer you're you're typically planting it
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: sounds like straight soybeans for that warm season. But but
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: is that not true? Do you sometimes do a summer blend? Yeah?
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I do. Uh, if I'm starting off and I know
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: weeds are gonna be an issue, I'm planting straight round
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: a pretty soy beans, I'm planting negle seed soy beans boom.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: And I still do that on some of niplots. Is
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: like said, the smaller plots where I know I'm gonna
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: have weeds because they're deary to cannot be off and
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I don't get in the multi layer built up because
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: all the browse pressure in there. I'm planting a round
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: up ready soybeans so I can control weeds and keep
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: that seed based down because if I don't disk, I'll
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: get on top to weeds. Those weeds. Weed seeds, if
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: you think about are very small. Pig Weed is you know,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know millions of millions of seeds per pound,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: where soybeans are like been on the branden you get
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: three thousands of seeds per pound. I mean there's a
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: massive difference. Ragweed is very small. Every weed seed there's
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: a problem in food blocks that I'm aware of, has
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: a very small seed. So if it's very very deep
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: in the soil and you don't disk, it's too deep
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: for it to germinate, they're still there. They're just they're
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: just they're not gonna be able to grow. They're not
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: gonna get enough sun to pull them out of soil.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: So that's another part of just getting on top of weeds.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: In a couple of years, you're not disking, you're not
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: putting any new weed seeds on top. So I'm gonna
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: do that in the summer. I'm not getting established by terminating,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: making sure I bear soil, whether I have to disc
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: or it's just like you said, You've got weeds, but
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: not a bunch of mult built up. And then in
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: the fall, I'm gonna have the soybeans standing there and
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: they're weed for you, because I could use black pisade
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: on top of them, and if I have to, by
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the way, folks, I always rather use a herbicide at
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: least common her besides like black State, then I would do.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: It does way less damage to the soil, way less,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: way less damage to the soil. And then in the fall,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna broadcast my fall cool season blend right
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: on top of the beans. And if I'm using this system,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: I want a little bit earlier mature and beans. So
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: if you're north you might use like Ego Seas Northern
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Manager blend. You know, you don't want to plant a
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: being to taste forever to mature and it's green until
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: the first frost, because then you don't have enough daylight
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: reaching the soil or your for your crop to germinate,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: your fall crop to germinate unless you're disking into it now.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I plant eagles really late maturing being because I love having,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you know, beans that are green and productive until the
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: hard killing frost to hunt over because dear, you know,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: dear love soybeans more than anything, so I love that.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: But if I've got a really good stand with closed canopy,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I drilled right through there I drew my fall Blend
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: right through there because I want something drawing as many
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: days out of a year, and with my drill, I
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: only damage about fift beams. So I end up with
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: the perfect foot plot. I've got the fall greens and
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: dear love on one days, I've got the pods or
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: high energy that love on code days, I've got the
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: perfect foot pot. There's no food plot better in my
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: mind then one that's about half pods and half greens.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking side by side, I'm talking all together.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I love that. That's my favorite plot, most productive to
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: hunt by far. And you mentioned, sorry, you mentioned a
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: little bit earlier ago, the fact that you really like
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: diversity in those in those plots, and you mentioned that
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: you it's at least in the fall blends you're trying
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: to make sure eight different, completely different species. Um. I
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: guess now I might be a good time to explain
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: why that is. Yeah, so different plants need different minerals.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: They all need conder same but all in favorite one
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: like for example, bucket really likes phosphorus. Phosphorus is huge nanodevelopment.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Just you know, sunflowers taking a lot of different trades
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: mentals out of ground, and they have a massive root
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: base that becomes organic matter because I'm never disking, So
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: when those roots decomposed, they become worm food. And the
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: next route, the next plant can just follow those roots,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: and if it's a successful route, it obviously found moisture nutrients.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: So I want to go down that same path again.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: It's okay to have a blend in the summer if
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: you're not having a big wheat issue like some of
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: my fields are now. So I've got what I call
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: the summer buffalo blend, which is primarily soy beans, but
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I've got some sunflowers and buckwheat and other stuff mixed
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: in with them to give me that diversity. Different plants
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: will have different size roots. Some have a single big
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: bulb like a turn up or something. Serry has a massive, big,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: real fine root just builds a big, massive bowl mass
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: in the ground. Wheats kind of in between um turnips.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: You know, if you think about turnips in that bulb
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and the and the deer don't eat the bowlb. That's
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: just a giant, slow released nutrient package for the next crop.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: I took a picture of your day. I had a
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: new soy being seedlaid about an inch tall right next
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: to a turnip bolb. That plant will skyrocket because there's
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: that turnip bulb decomposes that story beings. They're going to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: give it to me, give it to and give it
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: to me. I mean, it's just you know, it's a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: perfect solwaies fertilizer. Again, and and so, different plants grow
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: roots to different depths. Minerals kind of stratify sometimes some
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: are available at different depths, and other soft pretensive settle
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: about eighteen to twenty two deep. Uh So, and again
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I learned this from natural habitat on my land, where
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I cut seaters, planted nothing, and have tremendous native vegetation.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: There's always diversity. The only place I can think of
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: in nature, I'm not talking man alter, just the true
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: natural ecosystem that's kind of a monoculture plants speaking, not
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: quitter speaking, is a salt sea marsh where it's a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: really harsh environment. Everywhere else I'm talking natural here, not
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: a pine plantation or something, has a lot of diversity,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: because that's the way our system works best. In these
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: summer blends you're looking for. Uh you mentioned different diversity,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: and species will give you the different depths and roots structure,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: which is going to help you build up that soil.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: It's gonna help you deliver the nutrients to the next crop.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: But then also you mentioned biomass, so that's that's getting
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: different amounts and in structure and stuff above ground so
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: that you get that thatch when you knock that down
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: and you plant your fall blend, that's what helps you
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: get that that's covering right. Well, let's talk about that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: thatch or multiple bit. So if you plant a pure
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Egyptian wheat or soldiums today and grass and you can
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: get ten twenty tons per acre literally, Now deer don't
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: eat that, so don't get off side of folks. It's
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: not like the magic being deer food pot. We all
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: look for the magic being I found it yet. But
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: you can build a lot of biomass doing that if
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: you're playing a high seed depty bit. Let's remember some
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: basic seventh grade signs, and there's a nasty word. I
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: don't want scarline off the photo synthesis. Plant leaves are
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: the world's best solar collectors. No man has ever build
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: a solar panel is efficient as they leave, nor will
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: they ever so in a food pot blend. I don't
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: have you know, a crop a monoculture ten feet call
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: like Egyptian wheat. I've got some plovers down low. I've
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: got some buckwheat mid. I might have a you know,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: a big soil being up high because no monoculture catches
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: the sun. And I don't want to waste any because
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: sun is the source of all energy for all life
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: period and it's doing that through photosynthesis. Photosynthesis, you don't
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: have to remember see six A twelve or six and
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. Just thinking about this, it's taking carbon
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: dioxide a waste product, and water and making clean oxygen
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: O two and carbon. Remember, carbon is the most important
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: element to plant life, to any life. Human bodies are
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: primarily carbon, and that carbon is converted through photosynthesis and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: really cool things in plant leaves and about. Depending on
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: the species of plants, so don't quote me on this,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: it varies. But on the unaveraged fichu cent is called
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: leaked out or plant exu dates coming out of plant roots.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: It's putting in the soil. That's how we turned soil black.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: This is so cool, and listen to this. This is
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: this is kind of deep science. I'll be real light
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: on this, but the microbes and the soil that I've
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: been talking about, the soil life that is so beneficial.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: They can't photosynthesize, so the plant. It's always an economic exchange.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care where you go, folks, socialism won't work.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not being political. There's always an economic exchange. Plants
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  Speaker 1: are trade in these microbes carbon, and the microbes are
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: given the plants whatever nutrients they need that they rolled
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: from a rock or you know, soil or whatever. There's
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: an exchange going on seven blow to soil. The science
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: gets really deep, and I don't want to going deeper that,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: but it is the most interesting science in my career
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: I've ever studied by far by far and it's fascinating
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: how to soil works together with these microbes. Remember, the
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Great Pairie was never fertilized except for buffalo pooping on it.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Never fertilized, and the buffalo got that from what they're eating.
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  Speaker 1: There was no synthetic inputs. And you can do it
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: in a two acre food plot. You don't have to
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: have the millions of acres a great prairie. And it
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen overnight because your land has been degraded by
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: pass practices. We didn't know any better. It's not say
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: anything bad. I'm just before I've added tons of synthetic fertilizer.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't know any better. But you don't have to.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's an option you don't have to,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: and so feeding these microbes by the photosynthesis. So one
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: reason I like a blend. I've got a low growing
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: plant or maybe two or three, a medium growing plant
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: maybe two or three, and a higher growing plant. They
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: all have different plant leaf sizes and plant leave structures,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: and the leaves may come off, you know, kind of
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: a wrecked or sticking up or flat or sideways. Those
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: are all made so they can catch every bit of sun.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I want shade down to soil level, keeps it cooler.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not losing any moisture to evaporation. That one rain
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: can last me a month, you know, past don't take much. Guys.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: If you could get twenty inches of rain a growing season,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: but you just got at a quarter inch of a week,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: every week you got a quarter inch or what they
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: depend on where you live and how long growing season is,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: it'd be awesome. No one would complain, right, never, No farmer,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: deer gate, but that never happens. So farmers are a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: gate because they're not storing soil, water, soil, moisture, and
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: food plotters go. I spend all this money on seed
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: and fertilizer. Now it's a drought, and that dog on
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: food plots a slick as a pool table out there.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: You don't have to live that way. There are better ways.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: So we experienced a wicked drought here last summer at
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: the provement grounds my place, a wicked drought and deer
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: pretty much eight most things to the ground, except in
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: my electric fences where it's protecting some bean pods to
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: you know, late season hunt to make sure they didn't
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: need a too ground in a wicked, wicked drought. I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: had beans over four ft tall producing a gada pods.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just an accutive estimate, probably forty fifty bushels breaker
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: a great crop of bean pods. And when I opened
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: up those fences this last winter, talked about a deer magnet.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: So you can store moisture and you can get there's nutrients.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: There's plenty of nutrients everywhere. I want to I want
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: to share something here. You're not being too deep and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: soil recently there was a conference. There's a guy who
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: owns the soil ABB. He mainly does to Western States,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: so a lot of us A probably aren't going to
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: use this lab. It's a good lab, real high quality
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: soil ABB and uh. And he was kind of fighting
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: this reginity back then. We're talking about here because I mean,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: he's he's a soil scientist. He's all about MP and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: K And I'm not knocking the guy Tollways, a brilliant
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: guy and a really smart firmer. And this lady, this
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: brilliant scientists from Australia has been doing some great work
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: in Australia about improving soil health. I mean they you know,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: they don't have all rules. America has Nakan spraining her
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: beside test deicide thun Decide or whatever down there. Her
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: soul has really gotten degraded, yields her way way down.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: It's a national concern down there. And she's talking about, well, sir,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: how much fospterus is in your soil? Orders it on
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: the soil test it says available phosphorus, not fosterus phosphorus.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: That's that's now any form that plants can use the
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: phospterus report of a fertilizer bag is toxic to planets.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: It has to go through a change before plants can
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: take it up. Literally, So he's he's told her, I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: got you know what he said, eighty pounds break or whatever? Said, No, no, no,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I want to know the total osperus in your soils.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: He whipped out his nap gun. You dust stuff, and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: you can tell he's got now that can't be biting me,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: does it again? Well, about ten thousand pounds breakers now,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: ten thousand pounds breaker if that was available plants, it's
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: not now. But if it wasn't available, if you had
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: to write microbes doing this and stuff going on, how
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: many years could you go without Ferdi lives these ciphers
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: and ciphers and well, I don't know if sure, but
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: my grandkids would certainly never heard lives, never, not one time.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: These nutrients are into soil, folks, but we've killed the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: soil alive that makes it available to the crops. So
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: is this right for everyone? No? Man, you got to
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: corderate the food plot, and you're taking your lawnmower and
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: the garden tiller out there and get them something green
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: to go shoot a deer over man, I've done that.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: More power to you. That is awesome, awesome. I want
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: everyone involved with the soil because I think just an
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: understanding of soil and gardening or flower pots is really
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: healthy for mankind because you're just at it more respectful
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: of what it takes. But if you have the time
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: or the inflammation, or you're in the co op and
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: you get it, you know, have an opportunity improving soul health.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Not the first year, but over time will significantly reduce
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: your tost food plots, which what I've done here proven
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: now it's that cost savings. I've taken not much but
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: a few acres a year, added more food pots. I
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: kind of got a food pop budget. My wife Trace
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: and I, you know, tind of talk about act over time.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: As I have less inputs, I can make another acre
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: too the food pots and we all have more food pops, right,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: more places to hunt, hanging stand So over time does
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: this work. Absolutely. There's some really awesome examples in in
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: the egg side of taken the towallan desert down to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Mexico to if you've ever hunted coupas deer down to anything.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's I don't know. I'm gonna guess here,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: sad you sent bear dirt showing a few cactuses and
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: safe brush plants and whatnot to lush seeds of grass
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: for cattle, and their cattle are gaining weight like crazy
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: by doing it differently than grandfather did. And it's kind
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: of the same way about us and my I grew
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: up on a farm, folks. I had pulled a disc
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: of blue million miles, thinking I was doing good work.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: But it just takes an open mind and learning a
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: little bit more and replicating nature. So some people say, well,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: that's a different traditional act, and I say no. I
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: say the Buffalo hence I nade, not the Buffalo system.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: And the Great Prairie, the richest soil is known on
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: the planet, folks. Before man got there and really messed
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: up a few acres of native soil. We have left
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: in the prairie. Scientists go during test and it is shocking, shocking.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Now rich it is. I call that traditional act. And
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: I call maximum maximum till each and maximum synthetic input
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: conventional act, because that's the convention of what we're doing
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: these days. But even in Illinois, I work in Illinois,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: line I was dritten then. And I've just noticed the
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: past two or three winners used to like called Illinois
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: the lands of chisel plow. Everything was chisel power. Ever
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: win it. I've worked for Greg Ritz there and a
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: bunch of other people, you know, and there's like, now
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I grow a bit bigger, dear, And I said, Greg,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: you've got a timberland. Greg, this is on great show,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: so I'm not speaking minds back. Greg put this on
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: his on television show. Your timberland is mature, cannot be forest.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: There's nothing, not much going underneath it, and all the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: agg land surrounding you that's so lush and so productive.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: In the summer it is as bald as my head.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Five months out of the year, there's no cover or
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: food for deer or turkeys. If you want to grow
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: bigger deer. We got velts some food plots that have
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: food twelve months out of year because deer, deer can
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: store a lot of fat, and they do all through
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: the Midwest and grow some awesome deer. He We all
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: know the juries and a lot of my buddies are
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: are growing awesome deer. U the conventional aglays think about now,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm really good friends in market Arry and I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: talked to minder back at all been friends for decades.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: But they've got some really good food plots too. Right
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: when those when those agg fields are gone, and they
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: leave a fair amount of bean standing whatnot. But when
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: the neighbors agg fields are gone, they got some one
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: food in the neighborhoo it of course they're growing great
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: deer because they got food all winter along. Mark would
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: not have it where his dear did not have food
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: all winter along. And I'm busting all kinds of county
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: records and doing great. But I've got high quality forage
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: year round. And if I dis like in the fall,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: let's just think about this. I disk in the fall
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: right for a hunting season and get my fall food
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: plots ready. But I feel good. And everyone kind of
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: does this on Labor Day. Labor Day, and let's load
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: up tractor, gonna make food blots rightful deer season. And
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I turn on my ground from some kind of forage
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: weeds or whatever to bar dirt. There's a difference with
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: dirt and soil. Why do I just tell my dear,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: no food here, go somewhere else. And so I disc
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: maybe I disc implant the same day. It's two or
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: three weeks before there's enough food growing there to really
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: attract the deer. He might little get a little green
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: fuzz in the first week, but you're not providing any
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: tonnings for a while. Why do I just tell my dear,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: he's deer season and you need to go feed somewhere else.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: You're not welcome here. I call that cleaning the table,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: and so here we never cleaned the table like so
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: right now, I've got a clovers in my fall blend,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: and until my soybeans get big enough to run the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: crimper over them, my deer eating on clover right now.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: And this is another cool thing. How many y'all planted
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: soybeans or something really lush like that? You plant an
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: anchor and men, you go out there, maybe a week later,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: you got pretty good germanation. Oh man, it's gonna be
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: an awesome ye year. You go out there, three weeks later,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: it's lip high because a dear aid everything. I don't
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: have that big issue with that anymore, because now I've
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: got a four foot tall fall crop after being a
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: greenhouse over my young soybeans, and a deer eating the clover.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Because deer don't like to stick their head all the
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: way down in that foot toall clover where they can't
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: see smell, or here the boga bear coming up behind them.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: And it's it's like a little mini greenhouse where my
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: soybeans that lets them get a good root system going
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: a good start, so deer vows isn't as much as
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: an impact. I got a question about that a little
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: bit great. You mentioned how you're now planting right into
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: the standing um, into the standing summer crops. I'm talking
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: to the fall. Now you've you've your own here soybeans
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: or your soy bean blend with other things, and it
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: sounds like a really important thing is if you're gonna
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: have that blend be in addition to soybe's, you want
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: to make sure it's the lagom so it fixes a
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: lot of nitrogen into that soil, which essentially your natural
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: fertilizer for your fall blend. But you mentioned that you're
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: not fully terminating it until after you plant right to
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: get that greenhouse effect. What if I'm what if I'm
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: going to do the broadcasting thing though, Yeah, okay, in
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: the fall, all I do is drill through my standing beans.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: I never terminated. Never, I'm gonna let the beans drill,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: go ahead and ripen and make full pots. I want
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: them to ripen and make full of pots. And if
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I broadcast and I feel a broadcast here, let's say
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: I got again on these smaller plase, so did derate
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: to top off the beans, I got some weeds in
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever. I might spray that plot and then either
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: drill or broadcast my fall seed right into that plot.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm still even a lot of our beans are left,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: and it's warm up on plant here in mid to
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: late August and on when I've got enough so a
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: moisture I want to plant. Everyone should plant their fall crop.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: And there's at least forty five to sixty days before
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: a really hard frost, so you've got some time to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: girls some tunny or some bile mess to feed deer
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: and for your next year, but more importantly to feed deer.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: So I don't terminate anything in the falls unless I
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: got a lot of weeds, and I might use a herbicide.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: I only primp in the spring, and you can get
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: you can get enough sunlight down to to get that
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: stuff to Germany, even through standing beans and stuff like
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: that or is that just not matter, because again, no
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: it does. If it's a really thick crop and I
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: drilled through there, about half the beans are going to survive,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: the other half are laying down. I'm getting sunlight, gotcha.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: And if I broadcast, I'm not broadcasting into a really
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: full stand because I know it would shade out and
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't get a good fall crop started. I planted
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: the eagle, I play an eagle. I'll just tell you
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: exactly what I plant. I either plant eagles, whilfe managers,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: wind Order Group seven, uh, big fellows, and those rascals
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: stay big green leaves until the first hard frost, which
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: is awesome for Maxtionalum chileoni feeding deer. So that's not
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: so good for getting the fall crop established. So I
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: just drill. If the deer didn't need him real hard,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I drill right through there, and I knock about half
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: of them down. Someone will stand back up, some of
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: them won't. And I have about a roughly a half
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: a crop of beans, and I have a full crop
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: of my fall blend coming on. Can you describe what
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: that fall blend is in detail? Because from what I understand,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: you're not only trying to pick you know, attractive forage
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: blends for feeding the deer during the fall and winter.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: But I also understand that you're trying to plant things
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: that will be there the next spring, right to keep
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: this cycle going. So can you describe what those all
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: kind of describe in general? Not just I'm hiding. I
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: don't have any magic secrets or anything. I don't tell
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: any seed or anything like that. It's because I changed
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: as I learned more. I change every year. So let's
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: take this, I think a more accurate way. I'm probably
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: gonna have one to three and probably two to three
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: small grains youre rye oats and wheat, and I'll probably
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: have a bit more ride than the others because it
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: grows taller, makes more bio mass, and puts more roots
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: in the soil. And check this out, folks. So I'm
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: not I'm just telling you here, rye has the lieopathic qualities.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Big word. Let me break it a little simple for you.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: You probably noticed on a walnut tree to grass don
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: grow too well. If people don't like walnut trees and
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: yard because grass and grown well, that's because walnuts put
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: out a toxin that keeps other plants from growing so
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: they can get all the moisture nutrients to their cells.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: When you terminate rye, a lot of species of serial
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: rye and does the same thing, it won't hurt us
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: the way being or corn buckweed or even a big
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: two over seed. It's just not that strong. But as
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: we talked earlier, pig weed, rag weed, a lot of
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: these weeds have extremely small almost like pollen floating through
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: the air side seeds. It will work on this. One
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: of my big weed control features is when these plants
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: brastes that's have a different set but also a lily
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: path in qualities. So I'm gonna have some some sereal grains,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: including a cereal rye and some type of Braski in
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: my blend to help control weeds. In addition to feeding deer.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a clover too. I'm always gonna have annuals,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: not perennials. I've become a huge fan of annual clovers
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: because I used to maintain a lot of premial clock
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: perennial cover plots, and I've written a lot about this
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: and showed it on video and whatnot. But in reality,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I'll learned over time, guys, those are expensive, and they
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: take a lot of herbside and fertilizer to keep going.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: It's tough to keep the weeds of a premial clover plot.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: And if we're all on us, then you may be
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: a little better Northern Nichigan or something. But for most
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: of us, you know, let's say from Awa south uh,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: we have some hot drive periods here and almost every
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: summer and our clover you won't die, but it'd be dormant.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: It's not feeding anything, and I need I need food
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: out there at three and sixty five days a year
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: to go to Big Sandner's and the most turkeys I can.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: So I found that a really strong annual clover in
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: my fall blend works perfectly. So a regular clover pot
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: is really strong from when the tempertures start warming in
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: the spring they got the moisture until maybe June, may
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: depend on how the moisture and the heat goes that year.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Does dormant, are not very productive through all summer and
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: may or may not pick up in the fall late
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: fall once the temperature school and we get some moisture.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: That's a bunch of months in there. I didn't feed anything.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: So you can have just a couple of acres of
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: clover can outside your proper or less. And when it's
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: really productive, man, it outgoes the deer. They can't eat
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: it fast enough. I'm sure y'all have seen this. And
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: when it's dormant, I don't care if you got five
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: hundred acres of clover, it's not feeding anything. But when
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: I went to the annual clover in my fall blends,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: the fall buffalo blends, I call them because they worked
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: with the buffalo system. Man, it comes on when clover
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: is gonna go great, late fall or late winter, early
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: spring it's producing tons. Is about the time it's starting
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: to rain. Is when my soybeans are coming on, which
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: are much more drought hardy and heat tolerant. So I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: for me you personally here, I'm out of the premial
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: clover plot. I'm gonna have an you clover to in
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: a blend. I'm gonna have some cereal grains in a blend.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a brassica in the blend and maybe too,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: maybe like a rasih and some type of turn up
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: or a wave, but a rape it's just a non
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: boat producing turn up. And I'm probably gonna have a
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: broad leaf in there, which will probably die at the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: first frost, and maybe a buckwheat or something like that.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: So I've got all these different root structures. Plants are
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: pulling way different minerals out of soil. So when they
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: are termite either consumed by deer, because it's like feeding
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: your deer, multi videment either consumed by deer or it's
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: terminated on the plot, and and putting those nutrients right
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: back at the surface for new new plants that to
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: have an introng route. You have all the nutrients you
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: want twenty inches deep, but your crop will start to
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: death before it gets route to them. So I'm what
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: I'm doing what's called mining or recycling nutrients. I'm taking
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: nutrients from the deep, bringing them up to the surface
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: for either critters to consume or to decompose and be
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: released on the soil surface so they can start working
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: the way back down through the soil for different depths
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: of the different plant roots. That makes sense, And and
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: so then you've got this diverse blend of carefully selected
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: foragers that they grow that fall. You're feeding your deer,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: You're enjoying some great hunts over it. You're making sure
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: these are healthy deer heading into the winter, now closing
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: out the cycle or the cycle begins again the next spring. Now,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: in my in my example scenario, now I've got a
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: fall crop that's been on these food plots. Now it
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: sounds like what you're doing is and you're you're crimping
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: terminating that whatever has come back the next spring. Right,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: So can you just describe can you close it out
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: with what happens that next spring, now that you do
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: have something that's across all the food plots. If I
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: don't terminate in the spring, I'm not worried about in
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: the fall at all. Right, My, my soy beans or
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: even sometimes whatever I got out there is not going
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: to produce an st seed unless you've got way more
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: food plots that you've got deer, and very few of
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: us have that for eagles. Seeds to become a weed,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: and a weed is is to plant growing. We don't
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: want it. So, you know, a sunflower is almost never
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: a weed. But if you let a sunflower seed go
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: to a full head, that makes you know, hundreds or
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: thousands of seeds and all of a sudden they come
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: up when you're trying, you know, a hundred of them
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: come up and to square a foot. Nothing good is
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: gonna grow there. It's just too much competition. So I
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: really don't like plants volunteering. It seems like, well, I
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: can say so much money. But Southerners get this. You
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: almost never count on a volunteer pine stand to pay
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: your kids way through college because that pine tree is
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: gonna put off so many cones and seeds, is too
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: thick or too thin, and none of the woods really productive.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: That's why people plant pines on certain spacings to maximize production.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: The same thing with food, pop seed, same thing. So
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna plant crops in the summer that there's just
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: no we're deer gonna eat them on plant and stuff
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: designed for deer to eat, and they may get big,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: but the deer brows and enough, like soybeans, they make
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: pods that the deer don't eat, but sometimes they're in
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: the winter or a deer, turkey, a squirrel, a dove,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: whatever's gonna eat those things. I'm not worried about valling
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: tira soybeans. I don't think anyone really is, unless you're
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: a nag farmer and you're worry about two soybeans in
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: the middle of a turn at the cornfield or something
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: uh in my winter crop with all the cereal grains
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: you know, common ones are cereal rye, not rye grass,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: cereal rye, oats, wheets, those are all common our braskets.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: If you've ever let a brasket go to seed, those
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: little rassles make one bulb and forty million sea. I'm
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: exaggerating thousands of seed per plant, and they're very viable
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: seed if you let them get hard. So right now
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: my braskets have that little two insulung spike looks like
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: a pea, but much smaller, ten or leven seeds in there.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Before those things are black and hard. I'm terminating with
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: the crimper. That's why I terminate in the spring eight
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: to get enough sunshine for my soybeans, real good and beans.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: So don't have a bunch of volunteer coming up at
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: the wrong time of year. You don't want wheat or
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: rye or oats drawing in the summer competing with your soybeans.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: That would be that would not be good. So I
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: want to terminate that fall crop in the spring to
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: give my spring crop ample room to g oh without
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: weed again, a weed, it's just a plant growing at
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: a place you don't want it to grow. So, like
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: you know, if you've got marked four rows and your
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: rabbit patch, it's a really good thing. You've got multiplour
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: rows in your food plot or in your wife's garden
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: or somewhere, it's a really bad thing. It's a weed
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: or a good thing. Come on where you are. Um,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: So I terminate in the spring. I brought a full cycle,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: and and I'm and I'm drilling and and folks, some
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: people ask me, well, you know how you break that
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: bean cycle. I've been plant beans in the same plot
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: here it's equivement grounds for sixteen years in a row
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: and still growing great beans. And and the magic there
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: is I've always got a fall plot, and it's a
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: very diverse fault plot. And I may have diverse through
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: the beans. I may or may not, but I've got
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: a very diverse fall plot. So I am rotating crops.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: So I'm just doing it faster than some people do.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: I'm rotating. I've got that eight way plus wind in
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: the fault. It's really working on the soil and different
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: root depths and nights and structures and different chemicals being
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: again excluded out of root tips. I'm rotating every year
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: twice a year. Now, what if in this scenario we
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: make it to the spring and we want to terminate,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: But what if we don't own a crimp? How can
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: I keep the basic um tenants of this principle without
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: a crimp? You can terminate with her beside. I'm I'm
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: not anti herbside at all, guys. Should you know helps
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: feed a bunch of people right now, But I think
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: we're moving to systems worldwide where they may not be
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: as important. Um. But so I want to use I'm
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: not anti herbside. I want to use the least amount
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: I have to purchase for many reasons. Hey, you know
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: you're putting chemicals in soil. We can't deny that and
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: be it's expensive and see it's time consuming to put
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: on the ground. So if you can terminate with herbside
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: small flox, I do this myself. You use a backpack sprayer.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: So we've come up with and pass it on our
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: TP A little foot primper and the folks. If you
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: want to train for l cunting, this is the tool.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: It's a like a Tuba sig. It's not It's like
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: a Tuba six about I don't know, three or four
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: ft long and got a couple of anger arms on
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: the bottom. There's much more sciences than that. And I'm
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: just kind of painting the picture in a rope and
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: you just you put one foot on there and you
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: use the rope to pick it up moving forward six
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: and just step down and your weight becomes a crimper.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: And I use this in my small food plots where
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: I don't have time to get the tractor in order.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: Back in the roods, I can't get the tractor too
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: And on my small plots, I broadcast seed and then
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: I crimped the existing vegetation with that foot crimper. And
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend this for a ten acre field because
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: unless you're a really good athlete. But small small fields
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: even I can do. And it's a tremol. They're a
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: great tool. And that's that's a that's avail for seller.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: That's just a prototype thing you were using. No it
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: is no, no, no. They took it and improved it
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: and changed it, and this stuff better. And you know,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: they have Heaven for sale. I don't even know the price,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: but they have for sale. Mine my prototype is not
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: near as good as what they have, but yeah, we've
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: had done on the show, and I especially like it
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: again from a little ideo food plots where it's either
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: can't or seeing convenient to get attracted to. Rather than
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: disc it up, I can just broadcast in a net
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: standing crop and then using my foot crimper to going
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: there and mash down the mulch. Yeah, that makes a
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: lot of sense. Now I've heard some other people um
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: mo instead of crimping, and if they don't have a
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: big crimper, they've done kind of what you just describe,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: but then they mow to get the vegetation down and
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: to form a you know, a greenhouse effect over that
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: seed to get to Germany. Is there any downside to
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: doing that or what are your thoughts on using that
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: as an option? Yeah, that would be so simple and
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: I would love to do that if it were could
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: be simple. But every mower I've used, I mean I've
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: used Clell Moore's and I've got the bush Hawk talk
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: More and whatnot in my lawn mower, they don't throw
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: the mulch out the clean pattern. So if you remember
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: earlier we were talking about soul temperature, I'm not aware
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: of anymore. To just lays it down like a crimper does.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: And then a lot of weed species, the grass weed species,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: you know what they're going back. You can't. You cannot
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: mow Johnston grass out of existence. You know, it's just
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: not going to terminate as good Mowing cutting of plants
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: is not the same as breaking the whole plants reflect
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: toward system, and it's spending all this tergew trying to
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: heal those breaks. So a couple of factors. One, you're
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: not gonna get an even spread. A multich just gonna
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: be really thick in some places, which will shade out
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: your crop, and no much in other places, which allows
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: that soul to heat up and kill the beneficial bacteria
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: and evacuate a lot of moisture. So you know, if
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: you've got a more that just lays it down perfect,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: that would be ideal. I've yet to find that more.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: Hey crimpers, you know, I was raised on a farm.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: Hey crampers, whatever day, you know, there's a reasonably rate
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: because hey, crimpers don't put it in the right place
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: all the time. So I don't think mowing is as
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: good of option. Okay, So that's that's the process, I mean,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: that's the cycle. The only other question I guess I
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: have about the process is when it comes to using
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: a drill, if if we can find a drill, if
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: we can share a driller, rent one or whatever um,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: At least me personally, it seems a little intimidating. That's
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: an implement I've never used. It seems like a little
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: bit more involved, a little bit more to it than
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: just dragging a you know, disk behind my fore wheeler.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: Do you have any just do you have any advice
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: or tips for things to think about when using a
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: no tail drill for the first time, or just anything
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: we should be thinking about. Yeah, you know, they're they're
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: really not the two things too. I mean, besides the
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: normal mechanical stuff you could have a mind mind doesn't
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: have any tires. Minds a three point hits model, which
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: I really like. It makes turning. I equate a cool
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: type drill and the three point hits to a regular
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: more in a zero turn more. When we got rid
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: of our regular more in which zero turn more. Right,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: now spend half the time moreing the yard. It's amazingly faster.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: And when you've got the pool type, you've got high
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: drolly cses and not more parts to break or slow
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: you down and you pull up, and you gotta back up.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: You gotta get it just right within a few inches
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: where the three point hits. You just back up or
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: you want to drop it and go. There's no highdrolly
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: cses the right thing to break. It's much simpler, much
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: much simpler. Hey be. The only thing to use in
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: the drill, no matter which type of drill you use,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: is calibrating, and you want to calibrate every year because again,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: steed size is very you know it, maybe a wet
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: year in boded corn and soybeans, seed, octwolber or whatever
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: is really big, and the next year it's really drying
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: and really small. So even if you're planting the exact
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: same products, you still want to calibrate so you're planting
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: the right amount of seeds breaker not too many so
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: they outcompete, and not so few that you get weeds everywhere.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Uh And and different drills calibrate differently. I will just
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: share with you. I have a genesis and it's really cool.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: Let's got a little seed tray, So all I do
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: is turn to all drills and have some contact with
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: the ground and that drives. If you will the seed meters.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: So as that wheel on the ground turns, it knows
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: faster and slower, how fast to turn the seed meters,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: how much seed to put out. So you turn your
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: your your drive will if you will x amount of times.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: I do the math and do a hundredth of an acre.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: It's really simple. Most drills have dis published the manual
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: to turn it twenty two times or cree five or whatever.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: And I put my seed in the drill, and the
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: justice has a little seed trade. You just turn over
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: and catches all seed. Others you gotta put a tarp down, boild,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: a drill or something to catch it, turn it and
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: just stimulate planning a hundred hundredth of an acre and
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: then wait seed and it should be a hundred If
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: you want to plan a picky pounds breaker, then you
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: know it's a Catholic pound or a hundredth of that.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: And you just adjust your seed meter up or down
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: and calibrate it. That is absolutely toughest thing about using
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: any drill. You just calibrate. And why wouldn't you want
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: to calibrate because with this you get a well things
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: are ever perfect, but an almost perfect planting versus well,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not a broadcast, and we've all done this. You
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: put it in your broadcast, eat on a four wheeler
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: or over the shoulder model you're seeing and you're doing
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: you're feeling good, and you get halfway through the plot
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: and you've either used all your seed or you have
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: to use never much. We've all done it. I've done it. Yeah,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: we've all done it. And with the with the drill,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: you know, you get never perfect, but an almost perfect
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: stand at just the right spacing. All that stuff. And
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: some people use old chord planners, which is fine, but
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: most of old pod planners are like on thirty inch
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: rows or twenty four inch rows. Just think about this.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: Now you got all that sunshine coming down and causing
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: weeds to grow that was made that way because of
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: the sides of the combined head. It's never good plant biology,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: do that. Never. I plant mine at seven half intros.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: I plant all my species at seven half intros, and
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: you're planting the same amount of seeds breakers, so they're
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: still spaced out. But if you think about it, so
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: being a third intro and really competing with each other's
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: side to side. Now I've got equal spacing and they
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: pull them a canopy quicker and keep the sun from
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: it and sol that allows weeds to grow and that
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: young little seed and seeding when it first grows, you
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: know it has a really small root system. Well, when
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: you're on thirty intros, you got all that down in
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: the middle with fertilizer or linement on or whatever that
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: the plant can't utilize, but on with every seven half intro,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: which means it has to reach three and a half inches. Man,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: in just a week or so, they're tapping all that ground.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: Nothing's going to waste. So seven half intros are really
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  Speaker 1: really good. If you don't know turf grass and they
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: want to get coverage really quick is usually turf grass
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: triels are usually three inches. They're planting every three inches.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: And also if you beings one more thing, if you
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: put all your beams ont row, it is super easy
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: for that old nanny dough to walk down the row
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: and by the top off every one. I mean literally,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: there's been studies on this. But when you're in steven
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: Atkins row, she's got to work a lot harder and
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: probably won't consume quite as many of your seedlings before
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: they have a chance to get up and survive. That
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: amount of brows pressure. I guess I'm gonna be testing
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: testing these theories soon, hopefully learning how to use a
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: tool like that, and I'll report back in the in
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: the coming months. And if I haven't been able to
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: figure out how to properly calibrate and do these things,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: but it sounds like something I should be able to
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: figure out, hopefully with a little bit of fiddling. Um,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: it's easy, It's easy, it really is. So how if
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: we do this, if we implement a system like this, when,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: at what point and in what way can we measure success,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: whether that be success as far as improving the soil
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: or the greater habitat provements and or dear, how do
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: you look at success with something like this, and when
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: do you start trying to quantify that in some way?
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. There's one indicator that I had to
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: pick one, it would be a utilization cage, which is
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: just simply some structure wire basket, wire cylinder that keeps
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: deer from browsing. Let's say a three foot circle or
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: four foot circle. Plants. I don't like the small ones
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: because the deer's adult deer's tongue is about eleven inches long.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: So if you got a twenty in circle or reached
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: all the way through the after hungry and need ever
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: being inside of it, or whatever crop you got. So
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: I put a utilization cage literally in every food plot,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: big and small. And I'm looking at the plant growth
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: inside versus outside, which tells me a lot. You know,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: if it's three times tall were inside the gates versus outside,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: I got too many deer and not enough food. And
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: if there's no weeds inside where I'm shading it out
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: and a bunch of weeds outside, you know, I've got
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: some other issues going on. So that's really simple. I
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: look at dear body weights every year, and there's a
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: lot of factors. Okay, what did the neighbors have planet
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: I'm in an nery, or there's zero. When I say zero,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: I've never seen a grain beIN a silo. There's nothing
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: like that for counties around me. I'm in timber country,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: so acorns are factor. I might having really heavy acorn
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: crop and body weights maybe up a little bit in
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: the later season, not to early season. But I look
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: at that. I look at average chantler size and a
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: really good indicator of how you're doing it. Your soil
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: is before you start this, go out there with a
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: shovel at random places, floppy a couple of shovelfuls of
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: dirt over and see if there's wormholes or worms. Again,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: when the soil's got some moisture. If you do this
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: in julyne hadn't rained the two months, the worms are
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: down there six feet deep and you're not gonna see them.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: But you know, an average screen day, you go out
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: there in whippelow soil over CPC signs earth worms. Or
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: if you got really good or for populations like I do,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: you start seeing their droppings would be like a little
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: teeping piles on top to soil. That's when you know
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: you're getting there. I mean, that's all incredible fertilizer. When
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: you have so many worms, you're making droppings on top
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: to soil, you are growing some crops. If you want
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: to get little more sophisticated, you can always take sporage
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: samples and send it to any good lab. I use
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: waters Agg in Kentucky W A. T. E. R. S
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: Agg dot com and I can send them some leaves
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: and they're telling me the nutrient value of the leaves,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: so you can measure a lot of way days. But
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: for most of us that are dear guys, are utilised
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: are utilization cage showing us the difference of inside and outside,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: and a shovel can tell us an awful lot when
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: you when you pull a root up or you shovel
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: a root up, are you getting a lot of root
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: growth or is it really shallow and compacted and and
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: your telexes roots do down a few inches where that
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: hards on is and in turn sideways they turning nine
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: needs your angle. Then you've got a real hard pan
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: and you probably need to plant some radishes or something
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: with a really strong root system to bust that hard pan. Yeah,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's really helpful and and
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: pretty easy to follow. Yeah, I think I said earlier
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: in the in the podcast when the best thing you
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: can do is have boots on the ground and go
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: out to your fields. Don't just plan them and come
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: back and hunt over them, you know later, go out
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: there and see what's going on. Are you are your
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: cobra plants making a lot of big boons or the
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: booms look kind of puny um, you know, Or are
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: your beans making a lot of pods or they all
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: browsed off is the is the the annual small grains
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: wheat Ryoh are are they brows about? Lipie and Jane work?
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: You know, just kind of some common observations will let
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: you know how you're working. Yeah. And the best test,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: of course is for you Mark especially this takes a
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: little bit more time, So don't suggest a lot of
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: people do this. But you conventionally agg teal and maximum
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: input on a part of your plot in the buffalo
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: system on the other part, and watch it the first year.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: I can tell you convinceal ag we went. I'll promise
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: you that. Uh, but watch it for three years, and
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: also watch how much money you're spending on each part
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: and how much time. That's uh, it's really really, really intriguing.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: And like I mentioned at the top, just over the
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, as I kind of discovered this
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: idea and then just start diving into the literature and
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: the articles and and all the different things out there,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: it's it's the most excited I've been about new habitat
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: related work because it just seems to it seems to
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: make a whole lot of sense, both from from the
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: goals that you can accomplish with it and then just
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: like the way you go about it, which just seems
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: like much more in sync with the natural way and
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: much healthier for the whole place. And I always like
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: to think that when we as hunters always talk about
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: how we are you know, some of the very very
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: first and greatest conservations out there, and we do a
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: whole lot of things that that benefit the wildlife and
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: wild places around us. But but sometimes I feel like
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: some of these conventional practices have been damaging stuff. I mean,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: you talked about the damage done to the soil and
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: how that it really is the foundation for all the
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: rest of the fauna and floor out there. So I
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: feel like this is a way to kind of plug
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: a couple of those holes in our in our processes
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: out there and the ways that we can be good stewards.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: So so I'm just really excited. I really appreciate taking
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: the time to walk me through all this. And uh,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: I guess my last question would just be for me
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: and or anybody else out there who is interested in
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: learning more about this stuff. Um, I guess number one,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: where can we learn more from you? And then number two,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: do you have any recommended books or other online resources?
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe where we could learn more about regenerative our culture
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: or any of the bigger picture stuff. Yeah. Great, great questions.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: I stepping over here and get some books on myself.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: When you said that, I buy them on and read
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: a bunch on this. I'm really into it. Um, you
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: can learn about it, not a matter of fact, our
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: current episodes all about this. You can just go to
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: growing deer dot com and you know YouTube, Roku, Apple
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: tv probably anywhere to streams you can find us, or
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: just go to our website go one deer dot com
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: and there's episodes in past years or current wines all
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: about this. Uh, there's some great books out there. I
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: want to start by saying that a couple of organizations,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: uh that are really awesome. And these some of these
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: are government's supported, so you know, it's kind of your
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: tax dollars at work here, but they're doing some great work.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't say that a lot about a lot
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: of government agencies out there, uh, but uh, one of
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: them that I read a lot and care on is
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: is s A R E. S A are easy acronym.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: You can google this, you find it and it's Sustainable
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: Agriculture research and Education in this group just does an
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: incredible job and they don't ask for anything from US
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: land managers and return. There's all kinds of books and publications.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: A lot of them are available for free as a download.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: I like to read a book holding by the hand,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: so I think the most princy book I ever bought
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: from was like ten or fifteen dollars. I think it's
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: really good. A great book, A really great book that
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: goes over these principles, probably even in more detail. Is
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: A Soil Owner's Manual, A Soil Owned Owner's Manual by
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: John stick Up s t i k A. He was
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: a soil scientist in North Dakota. John stick To s
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: t i k A. He had a long career and
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: man he made a lot of observations from going from
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: native pastures out there, I mean original prairie to maximum
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: till it's too people trying to regenerate and restore those
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: and you know, a long career of watching these changes
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: and becoming to believe himself. It's a small book of
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: about eighty pages, and it's an I give that book
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: to people. It's just a a great book for people
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: who want to learn about this. Uh. The Rodale Institute
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: the Rodale Institute, which is I'm getting me to spell
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: that for you, and I don't want to butcher, so
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna look in here and see, oh is
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: uh R O d a l E. R O D
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: A l E is a nonprofit farm started thirty plus
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: years ago by businessman in Pennsylvania that was concerned about
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: the nutrient quality of foods. Were eating nutrient quality foods.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure all your listeners know a lot of
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: people think a lot of the major diseases we're facing
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: in critters and certainly humans because of our nutrient poor
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: food for example, And I bet some of your listeners
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: may not know this. Common crops like broccoli and spinach
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: are forty or more less in nutrients in the same
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: crop thirty years ago. What we do to deplicate soils.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: There are oranges grown now that have zero vitamin suit
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: totally to to depleted soil, synthetic fertilizer, er whatever. Uh,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: we're not eating as a nation. You may be eating
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: the same amount of calories, but you are not getting
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: the same amount of minerals that your parents got. Unless
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: you're a you know, an organic gardener. You know you're
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: you're raising your own. So folks, what I do, literally,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: I buy thirty some ub species of garden plants. There's
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: no magic to this. I just go to the store
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: and start loading up my buggy, put all the five
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: yallon bucket, mix it all together, put it in my
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: no til drill and drill some strips right in the
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: middle of my food pop right in the middle. There's
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: no magic to this. It's I mean, there's melons and
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: squash and several times the beans of peaks, and some
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: of the work, and some of them don't. Some of
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: them I never see. And uh man, it's a garden.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: It's a weed free garden. And the only thing I
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: do is drill it one day, and then about midsummer
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: start picking produce and bring it in the house. And
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: you know, you can buy an acre or seed pretty
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: cheap when you're buying in that volume. And and all
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, your wife really likes food plot and
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: so it's a it's of course, deary, whatever we don't eat.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: So it's a great thing. And I put them all together.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: This is a little rows of carrots and tomatoes like
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: you know in your parents guard that you had to weed.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: I mixed them all together, all of them, playing them
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: all together and just let whatever comes up come up.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: It's it's incredible. Yeah, there's some great resources out there.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: Those just a couple of easy ones that are good
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: starter ones. The s A r. E Institute online, they've
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: got all kinds of great information. Excellent. Well, Grant, I
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: can't tell you how helpful this has been. And and
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: you mentioned the most recent episode that you guys have out.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: I took a look at that as well just before
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: we chatted, and that was a really great visual um
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: supplement to I think what we talked about here today.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: So would highly recommend anyone out there definitely go watch
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: that because it will really illustrate what Grant has walked
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: us through as well as UM. Like you mentioned, Grant,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: you have a whole lot of past videos. I saw
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: that on YouTube. You had a playlist that had all
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: the day for episodes over the years you've done that
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: we're related to this. You put them in a Buffalo
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: Food Plot Systems playlist. If you want to go back
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: and look through the archives of growing to your TV.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Your team there did a great job of organizing them
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: all there so you can see the different things you've
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: done over the years and how your system has progressed. Um,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: and I found that really interesting too. So this is
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: really really interesting and I appreciate you, Graham, thank you.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: I want to say just one last thing and do
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: what I do. Just go to YouTube and uh, you know,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: search on regenity bag or cover crops and those keywords
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: and one tip on ad I've been doing this for years,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: but I would watch like two thousand and seventeen, two
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen and four because we're all learning all
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: the time. So even stuff I thought about this in
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, I may have changed my mind or
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: done differently. So there's thousands out there. So I just
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: watch some more current Once you get the most current
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: information and offer it a little bit to apply to
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: your food plot situation and have fun with it. Great,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: great advice. Well, I'm gonna be putting all this into
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: action this year. I can't wait to see how it goes.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: And I'll keep you posted, Grant, and uh, I'm sure
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: it's gonna help. Mark. Thank you for the time to
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: share with your audience, and I look forward to hearing
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: about your project. Sounds a good plan and that is
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: a rap UM, hopefully you guys enjoy this one as
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: much as I did. As you can tell, UM, I'm
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: just really personally intrigued by this stuff. Like I mentioned
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: up to the top, UM, nothing against conventional methods of agriculture,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: like there's a place for that, I know, And I
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: also know that I don't know everything, so I'm just
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: figuring this out myself. UM, but I'm at least intrigued
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: and excited about the opportunities to maybe, in some small way,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: do something a little bit differently than might be positive.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: So if you guys know more, if you want to
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: share me your experiences or insights or different opinions, I'd
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: love to hear that too. UM. I'm just all for learning,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: and I think this is gonna be a great opportunity
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: to do so. So until next time, thank you for listening,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: thanks for being a part of this community, and until
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: next time, stay wired to hunt the Broken Book to
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