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How Do We Begin the Path of Self-Realization? · Inspiration and Transformation

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Speaker 1: Welcome to inspiration and transformation from the banks of the
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Speaker 1: Gunga with Sadvi Bagwadi Saraswati, an American Sonyasi living at
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Speaker 1: the parmarth Nikotan Ashram in Rishikesh, India. Sadvi is President
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Speaker 1: of the Divine Shakti Foundation, a charitable organization bringing education,
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Speaker 1: vocational training, upliftment and empowerment programs to women and children.
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Speaker 1: Sadvi is also Secretary General of the Global Interfaith Wash
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Speaker 1: Alliance and director of the world famous International Yoga Festival.
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Speaker 1: Joined the musics of an American Sanyasi as Sadvi shares
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Speaker 1: the wisdom and teachings of her Guru, His Holiness Pujiaswami
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Speaker 1: Chidnant Saraswatiji.
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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to inspiration and transformation from the holy banks
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Speaker 2: of the Sacred gung A River in the land of Rishikesh, India.
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Speaker 3: How do we.
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Speaker 2: Embark and follow that path of discovering the truth of
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Speaker 2: who we are, of discovering the soul of self realization,
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Speaker 2: God realization, soul realization. You begin right here, right now.
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Speaker 2: You begin where every minute that you say to yourself,
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Speaker 2: I am and you fill in that blank with something
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Speaker 2: that has to do with your physical body, that has
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Speaker 2: to do with a role you play or an emotion
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Speaker 2: you're having. That every time you say that to yourself,
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Speaker 2: that you come back and you say, not this, not this.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: So, if you say, oh, I'm so angry or I'm
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Speaker 2: so frustrated, or I'm so happy, got an a on
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Speaker 2: the exam, had a great pizza dinner, I'm so happy,
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Speaker 2: say to yourself night eighty, not this, not this. I
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Speaker 2: am not the body that's happy from eating pizza. I
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Speaker 2: am not the ego that's happy from an exam score.
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Speaker 2: I'm not the ego that's angry at this or frustrated
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Speaker 2: by that. I'm not the chemicals or electricity in my
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Speaker 2: brain that gives me a pattern that we call anger
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Speaker 2: or sadness or happiness. Every time you say something like
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Speaker 2: I am successful or don't you know who I am?
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Speaker 2: I am or the opposite, I am worthless, I'm lazy,
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Speaker 2: I'll never achieve anything. Anytime you say anything like that,
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Speaker 2: any eye statement like that, just say eighty, not this,
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Speaker 2: not that. I am not my job, I am not
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Speaker 2: my role, my title, my bank account, my story, whether
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Speaker 2: I consider myself a big man or nobody. Either way,
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Speaker 2: I'm not that. It's just a story. It's a story
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Speaker 2: my egos, concocted based on information from the outside world,
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Speaker 2: based on experiences. But it's not who I am, because
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Speaker 2: I existed long before I decided I was a big man,
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Speaker 2: or long before I decided I was a nobody. I
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Speaker 2: existed long before I was angry or frustrated, long before
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Speaker 2: I had the pizza dinner that made me happy, long
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Speaker 2: before I was anything that you could fill in after.
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Speaker 3: I am.
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Speaker 2: So just whenever you find yourself saying I nathi eathi,
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Speaker 2: not this, not this, and slowly, slowly, slowly, that awareness
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Speaker 2: will bless them and do it as a meditation. It's
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Speaker 2: a beautiful meditation, and you just go through, one by one,
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Speaker 2: all of that which you are not, not the clothes
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Speaker 2: you're wearing, not the skin, not the blood, not the bones,
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Speaker 2: not the organ. Right, you do it very slowly, one
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Speaker 2: by one. I am not the clothes I'm wearing. I
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Speaker 2: am not the skin beneath the bones, and you go layer.
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Speaker 3: By layer.
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Speaker 2: Until and you stay with each one until the mind says, yeah,
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Speaker 2: like I know that, I get that, I know that
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Speaker 2: is true, not just I'm repeating it like a month AA.
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Speaker 2: But I actually know it is true. I know that
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Speaker 2: I am not my blood. I know that I am
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Speaker 2: not my organs, because see, I donated a kidney, but
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Speaker 2: I'm still here. I didn't cease to exist or I
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Speaker 2: got a kidney transplant, but I didn't become a different person.
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Speaker 2: I had my appendix removed, didn't lose myself. So I'm
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Speaker 2: not my organs. I'm not the bones, I'm not the blood.
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Speaker 2: And then you get into the the cells of the brain, right,
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Speaker 2: I am not my neurons. Obviously, I'm not gray matter.
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Speaker 2: I'm not white matter. I'm not the chemicals inside the
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Speaker 2: vesicles the end of each neuron. I'm not the electricity
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Speaker 2: that runs down the axon of the neuron causing the
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Speaker 2: vesicles of the chemicals to be released. It's not who
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Speaker 2: I am. I'm not chemistry. I'm not serotonin. I'm not
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Speaker 2: norepin effort. I'm not dope. I mean, these are just
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Speaker 2: chemicals in my brain. But if I'm not them, then
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Speaker 2: it means I'm not my thoughts. Means I'm not my emotions.
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Speaker 2: It means I'm not my memories. All of that which
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Speaker 2: takes place in the brain happens because of chemicals and electricity,
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Speaker 2: So not that. Then I'm also not my thoughts, not
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Speaker 2: my emotions, not my identification, not my personality. I'm nothing
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Speaker 2: that can be altered chemically or physically. So anytime you
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Speaker 2: think I am that, ask yourself, if I were really
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Speaker 2: drunk or I were on drugs, would I still that
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Speaker 2: things still be the same. And if the answer is no,
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Speaker 2: then it means, well, all you've done is altered your chemistry, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean, how many people under the influence of something
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Speaker 2: say that was not me.
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Speaker 3: I don't know who that was.
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Speaker 4: That was not.
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Speaker 3: Me, meaning.
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Speaker 2: That which I said, that which I did is not
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Speaker 2: the way I normally think of myself. But all you
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Speaker 2: did was change chemistry. So just as you were not
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Speaker 2: the new person who was under the influence, similarly you're
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Speaker 2: not the old person because that's also just chemistry. It's
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Speaker 2: just chemistry without the additional intoxicants anything that would change
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Speaker 2: if you changed the brain structurally, so you have a stroke,
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Speaker 2: a hemorrhage, a brain injury, a lesion, if that would
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Speaker 2: alter any aspect of who you think you are, your personality,
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Speaker 2: your identity, your emotions, your memories, well clearly that can't
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Speaker 2: be you because You're not your temporal lobes, right, You're
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Speaker 2: not your prefrontal cortex.
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Speaker 3: It's just a part of your brain. It's not who
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Speaker 3: you are.
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Speaker 2: So you do this practice called Nathi Nathi not this,
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Speaker 2: not this, and you go through anything that arises, anything
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Speaker 2: you can think of, anything that you think you might be,
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Speaker 2: and just allow that to percolate for a while in
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Speaker 2: your mind and ask yourself, really, is that really me?
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Speaker 2: Could that be altered chemically? Could that be altered physically?
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Speaker 2: And if so, then it's not me because I don't
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Speaker 2: cease to exist or change. The depth of who I
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Speaker 2: am doesn't change just because I'm drunk or I had
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Speaker 2: a stroke.
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Speaker 3: I don't change.
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Speaker 2: Just my brain change means that's not who I am.
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Speaker 2: And as soon as you clear all of that which
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Speaker 2: you are, not, what is left soul, divinity, that infinite consciousness.
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Speaker 2: That's all that's left. I am consciousness, I am soul.
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Speaker 2: It's the only thing that doesn't come and go or change.
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Speaker 2: But that awareness comes by removing all of the layers
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Speaker 2: of that which I.
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Speaker 3: Think I am.
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Speaker 2: And only then can you see what you really are.
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Speaker 2: If you want to see in a river or lake,
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Speaker 2: you have to remove the gunk from the surface. If
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Speaker 2: you want to see outside the window, you have to
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Speaker 2: clean it and open the curtains, And so we do
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Speaker 2: This is Sadvi Baghavati Saraswati with inspiration and transformation. How
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Speaker 2: can we apply the teaching of Nathi Nathi not this,
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Speaker 2: not this to our spiritual practice? So a beautiful meditation
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Speaker 2: is a meditation that we call Nathi Nathi meditation.
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Speaker 3: And it's a.
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Speaker 2: Very simple to do, but very deeply profound meditation. And
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Speaker 2: basically it looks like saying something like I am not
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Speaker 2: my sorry, I am not my skin, I am not
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Speaker 2: the blood flowing beneath my skin. I am not my muscles,
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Speaker 2: I am not my bones, and you go one by
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Speaker 2: one through all of the different aspects of the body,
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Speaker 2: from the most gross like the clothes and the skin
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Speaker 2: and limbs, to the most subtle, the chemical and electrical
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Speaker 2: patterns of energy in our brain that we call thoughts
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Speaker 2: or memories or emotions or beliefs. And with each thing
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Speaker 2: you say not this, I am not that, and you
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Speaker 2: only move on to the next thing when you get
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Speaker 2: kind of a full yeah, I know it inside you.
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Speaker 2: So if I say I'm not my clothes, the whole
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Speaker 2: body mind complex says yeah, yeah, of course, like I know,
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Speaker 2: I'm not my clothes. Change clothes every day, sometimes a
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Speaker 2: couple times a day. Obviously nothing is happening to the
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Speaker 2: self when I take off my clothes. Same thing as
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Speaker 2: you go through your skin and your blood and your
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Speaker 2: bones and your organs, and so there's a mental yes
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Speaker 2: yes with each thing. As it gets more subtle, it
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Speaker 2: sometimes takes a little bit longer to get the yes
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Speaker 2: from the internal being, but eventually it comes because we realize, well,
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Speaker 2: I'm not chemicals, I'm not serotonin, I'm not no epinephyrine,
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Speaker 2: I'm not dopamine, causing the chemical to be released and
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Speaker 2: then a chain reaction into the nextner, I'm not electricity.
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Speaker 2: It went out, it came back here, we still are
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Speaker 2: no change. I'm not chemicals. And so if I realize
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Speaker 2: that I'm not chemicals or electricity, then obviously I'm not
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Speaker 2: my thoughts, my emotions, my beliefs. That's the meditation. But
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Speaker 2: the question says, how do we bring nathan athy into
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Speaker 2: our spiritual practice? So not just the meditation, but in
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Speaker 2: our lives. And it's a really it's a really powerful thing.
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Speaker 2: You know, all of that which we do in our meditation,
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Speaker 2: the whole point of it is to change how we live.
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Speaker 2: Everything you experience in meditation is meant to be lived.
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Speaker 2: It's not oh, this is my meditative experience and everything
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Speaker 2: is one and I'm one with God. And then I
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Speaker 2: stand up from my meditation and I hate you, and
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Speaker 2: I hate you and you bother me and you make
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Speaker 2: me angry and you're the problem. Right then it means
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Speaker 2: obviously your meditation is not very deep, not very profound.
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Speaker 2: So everything we experience in meditation we are supposed to
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Speaker 2: take with us when we stand up. But this particular
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Speaker 2: practice is really powerful to bring into your lives, because
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Speaker 2: you'll notice, if you become aware, mindful, that as you
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Speaker 2: move through your day, you have different reactions, different feelings frustration, anger, resentment, competition, jealousy, regret, guilt, greed,
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Speaker 2: lost right. I mean, we could do that all night,
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Speaker 2: like this is what our days, in our minds look like.
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Speaker 2: Every time one of those arises, you get to look
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Speaker 2: at it and say, Nati, EIGHTI not this.
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Speaker 3: There may be a pattern.
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Speaker 2: In the brain that we call anger, but we've already
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Speaker 2: determined I am not the chemistry and electricity in my brain,
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Speaker 2: so I am not my anger. There may be a
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Speaker 2: chemical reaction in the body of hormones that we call lust,
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Speaker 2: but I am not chemicals. We've already discovered that, whether
29:18
Speaker 2: they're in my brain, whether they're in my blood stream,
29:23
Speaker 2: whether they're pouring out of my adrenal gluns, I'm not chemicals,
29:29
Speaker 2: which means I'm not the lust, the stress, the anger.
29:38
Speaker 2: As things arise in your life, you get to look
29:41
Speaker 2: at them the same way that I look at the sorry,
29:44
Speaker 2: or that you look at your skin or your bones
29:47
Speaker 2: or your muscles, and you say, I am not this,
29:51
Speaker 2: Nati Nathi. So the moment that you notice frustration arise,
30:00
Speaker 2: anger arising, stress arising, jealousy arising, lust arising. Just look
30:08
Speaker 2: at it and say, Nathan Eathane, not this, not this.
30:16
Speaker 2: I am not my jealousy anymore than I am my clothes.
30:21
Speaker 2: I am not my resentment anymore than I am my kidneys.
30:29
Speaker 2: I am not my anger anymore than I am my
30:33
Speaker 2: teeth or the chemistry and my brain. These are all
30:39
Speaker 2: aspects of the physical body. So as it arises in
30:45
Speaker 2: the day, just look at it, Nathi, Nathi, not this,
30:51
Speaker 2: not this, And it's a beautiful meditation in action to
30:57
Speaker 2: just bring you back.
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Speaker 3: This. This is who I am.
31:06
Speaker 2: So that's how we bring it into our day. Do
31:12
Speaker 2: it as a meditation, but then live it.
31:17
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Speaker 2: This is sadv Bagoviti Saraswati with Inspiration and Transformation, the
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Speaker 2: Journey from lust to celibacy, for tapping our mind power. So,
33:12
Speaker 2: first of all, you said something very important that I
33:16
Speaker 2: want to make sure everyone heard. He began by saying
33:23
Speaker 2: he's a Guinness Book World record holder for memorizing the
33:28
Speaker 2: entire Oxford Dictionary, including the page numbers, and that he
33:35
Speaker 2: practices celibacy because without that he doesn't have the inner energy,
33:41
Speaker 2: the inner mind power to do this, and that now
33:45
Speaker 2: he's training others to be able to do that. So
33:51
Speaker 2: this is a lot of what our reshis and sages
33:56
Speaker 2: have said for thousands of years, which is that our
33:58
Speaker 2: internal ogency, that internal energy of the system, not just
34:06
Speaker 2: the physical body, but the energetic body. Every time we
34:14
Speaker 2: engage in secs, we're not just losing physical fluids of
34:22
Speaker 2: the body. We're actually also losing ojis, and so it
34:28
Speaker 2: weakens immune systems, but it also weakens mental power. Now
34:35
Speaker 2: there's a couple of pieces about this though. First of all,
34:40
Speaker 2: less doesn't exist only in our genitals, So it's not
34:46
Speaker 2: if I can just keep my genitals under control, then
34:50
Speaker 2: I'm going to be okay. It actually exists in the
34:53
Speaker 2: mind as well. I may be physically celibate, I may
34:59
Speaker 2: not be an engaging in any sexual activity at all.
35:03
Speaker 3: But if my mind.
35:07
Speaker 2: Is constantly thinking, oh my god, I can't believe this,
35:10
Speaker 2: this is ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: I want to have sex so badly.
35:13
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I bet I bet that person would
35:15
Speaker 2: be really great to have sex with Oh God, I wonder,
35:18
Speaker 2: I wonder what it would be like with that person.
35:20
Speaker 2: Oh those people, I think they just went in to
35:23
Speaker 2: have sex. Now, if we are constantly thinking about it,
35:30
Speaker 2: we're actually worse off than if we're doing it, because
35:38
Speaker 2: it's occupying all of our minds. So our mind power,
35:42
Speaker 2: of course is completely gone. And the mind uses ojus
35:48
Speaker 2: as well. And so whether we are memorizing a dictionary
35:55
Speaker 2: or thinking about sex, they're both utilizing oh jes. So
36:02
Speaker 2: just keeping the body under control is not actually enough.
36:07
Speaker 2: And this is why in our Indian tradition we speak
36:12
Speaker 2: about different phases of life, because it's really clear that
36:18
Speaker 2: not everyone, at every phase of their life is meant
36:23
Speaker 2: to be celibate. It's wonderful that you are, congratulations. Many
36:30
Speaker 2: of us take vows of celibacy at young ages, take
36:38
Speaker 2: snias at young ages. I was only twenty nine when
36:41
Speaker 2: I took senias. But for a lot of people, that
36:49
Speaker 2: phase of life comes after the householder phase that we
36:55
Speaker 2: first go through a whole phase of life called the
36:58
Speaker 2: gras daschrom phase in which we are a householder and
37:03
Speaker 2: we have sexual relations, you know, dharmic, monogamous, healthy sexual
37:12
Speaker 2: relations with our spouse, we end up with children, and
37:19
Speaker 2: after that we start going into van fastasmphase and signya
37:26
Speaker 2: so I mention that because you should not feel like
37:29
Speaker 2: somehow every one of you, at every phase of your
37:33
Speaker 2: life needs to be celibrator. You won't have your brain functioning.
37:40
Speaker 2: If you are not.
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Speaker 3: Ready to be.
37:44
Speaker 2: Celibate and the mind is not able to come under control,
37:52
Speaker 2: then you're actually worse off than if you simply engage
37:58
Speaker 2: in dharmic monogue. Miss sexual relationships with your spouse, because
38:04
Speaker 2: typically in most relationships, you're not having sex thirty times
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Speaker 2: a day, every day, three hundred and sixty five days
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Speaker 2: a year, right, But when you're not having sex and
38:21
Speaker 2: you're thinking about it, thinking about it thirty plus times
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Speaker 2: a day, seven days a week, three hundred and sixty
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Speaker 2: five days a year, and all of that energy that
38:32
Speaker 2: is being wasted in the mind thinking about it is
38:36
Speaker 2: more harmful than an occasional dharmic coming together of a
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Speaker 2: husband and wife or whatever the two people may be.
38:54
Speaker 3: In love in union.
38:57
Speaker 2: Dedicating that to the divine, It's why we have the
39:01
Speaker 2: Kamma Sutra because it teaches us how to take that
39:05
Speaker 2: which is very natural in married relations and also make
39:12
Speaker 2: it spiritual how to offer that to the divine in
39:17
Speaker 2: a way that isn't depleting us but is actually enhancing us.
39:24
Speaker 2: So I think the path is fantastic. I think it's
39:31
Speaker 2: definitely the right path for some people. It's the right
39:36
Speaker 2: path for more people as you get older. But along
39:43
Speaker 2: the way, conserving your ogis is very important. And by
39:52
Speaker 2: the way, not only sex. Sex is not the only
39:54
Speaker 2: thing that depletes it. Either doing it or thinking about it.
39:58
Speaker 2: Anger depletes it. Unnecessary talk depletes it. Gossip, negativity, lots
40:08
Speaker 2: and lots of things deplete our ogious. You ever find
40:13
Speaker 2: yourself in a conversation with someone where you haven't even
40:19
Speaker 2: stood up, You're just sitting down chatting. But suddenly you
40:22
Speaker 2: find yourself like, oh my god, I'm so drained from
40:26
Speaker 2: this conversation, and all you've done has been gossiping or
40:33
Speaker 2: talking negatively about other people. That drains our ogious, all
40:44
Speaker 2: of the vastness.
40:48
Speaker 3: They drain ogous.
40:50
Speaker 2: Desires drain O just sitting here all day long, whether
40:52
Speaker 2: it's sex I'm desiring, or more money, or the office
40:57
Speaker 2: of the person next to me, Why does that person
40:59
Speaker 2: have the office. That's not fair. I want that office.
41:02
Speaker 2: I should have that office. We're depleting, depleting our ogis
41:08
Speaker 2: with every one of those thoughts, I'm too good for
41:15
Speaker 2: this little cubicle. Why does that person get the big office.
41:18
Speaker 2: Don't they know I'm the one who does all the
41:20
Speaker 2: work around here. You're depleting your ogis. So it's beautiful
41:29
Speaker 2: what you're doing, and it's a beautiful message to people
41:34
Speaker 2: of protect your ogis and celibacy is certainly a very
41:40
Speaker 2: very powerful way to do it, but it's important just
41:46
Speaker 2: to remember that it's not necessarily the right path for
41:50
Speaker 2: all people at all times, and with people for whom
41:56
Speaker 2: it's not the right path at that time, to help
41:59
Speaker 2: them work with their path so that they can conserve
42:04
Speaker 2: as much of that energy.
42:08
Speaker 3: In thought, inward in action as possible.
42:15
Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you so much for bringing up that
42:19
Speaker 2: beautiful topic, and congratulations.
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42:41
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42:44
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42:59
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43:03
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43:05
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43:29
Speaker 9: of victims know their attacker. It could be your friend,
43:32
Speaker 9: your neighbor, or someone you met at a party. If
43:35
Speaker 9: you said no, it's rape and it's a crime. This
43:39
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43:46
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. This is sadv Bagovity whereat the with inspiration
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Speaker 2: and Transformation. Does denying the needs of the body and
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Speaker 2: suppressing emotions create mental problems. If yes, should seekers renounce. So,
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Speaker 2: first of all, renunciation is not the answer to needs
44:33
Speaker 2: of the body or emotional issues. That becomes just repression
44:40
Speaker 2: or denial. That's just denial and saffron clothes. That's not
44:46
Speaker 2: what renunciation is about. It's not Oh, I've got these
44:51
Speaker 2: needs or I have these emotions and I don't want
44:54
Speaker 2: to deal with them. They are four I'm going to
44:58
Speaker 2: put on saffron clothes and pretend that I don't have them.
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Speaker 3: Doesn't work.
45:08
Speaker 2: Has anybody who's ever tried to change their clothes into
45:11
Speaker 2: anything those what you wear, it doesn't change.
45:19
Speaker 3: What's going on.
45:22
Speaker 2: In your mind or in the chemicals of your body.
45:27
Speaker 2: Reminds us, reminds us of a path we're walking. But
45:32
Speaker 2: if you're angry in jeans and a T shirt, you're
45:35
Speaker 2: going to be angry.
45:36
Speaker 3: In saffron clothes.
45:39
Speaker 2: If you are lustful and greedy in jeans and a
45:43
Speaker 2: T shirt, you're going to be lustful and greedy in
45:48
Speaker 2: saffron robes. You're just going to be more repressed about it,
45:52
Speaker 2: or you're going to try to hide it more. So
45:54
Speaker 2: that doesn't actually serve anyone.
45:57
Speaker 3: So, first of.
45:58
Speaker 2: All, denying the needs of the body. Does it cause
46:04
Speaker 2: mental problems? Well, first of all, it causes physical problems.
46:10
Speaker 2: The body has needs food, water, sleep, oxygen. Those are
46:21
Speaker 2: kind of the most basic, and yet in spiritual work
46:26
Speaker 2: we do for short times deny those needs.
46:32
Speaker 3: For a short time, not.
46:35
Speaker 2: Long enough to harm the body, but long enough actually
46:38
Speaker 2: to strengthen the mind, to teach us. Ah, the body
46:45
Speaker 2: is clamoring for food, but I'm fasting today, I'm not
46:52
Speaker 2: responding to that. And yet here I am. The sky
46:58
Speaker 2: hasn't fallen, I haven't exploded or impluded. The world hasn't
47:03
Speaker 2: ceased to exist. And it's a very powerful lesson because
47:10
Speaker 2: it teaches us that we are not simply responses to stimuli.
47:16
Speaker 2: We're not like Pavlov's dogs that salivated a bell.
47:20
Speaker 3: And well we don't have a choice.
47:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sometimes the body sends a signal it wants food,
47:27
Speaker 2: it wants water, it wants sleep, it wants sex, it
47:30
Speaker 2: wants this, and we act like, oh my god, I
47:34
Speaker 2: had no choice. What fasting does in a healthy way?
47:44
Speaker 2: What staying awake all night? Every once in a while
47:48
Speaker 2: we do it sometimes on Shivratti for example, or Krishna
47:52
Speaker 2: genmarsh to me, or certain full moons. There are just
47:57
Speaker 2: very auspicious nights sometimes during the year to stay awake
48:01
Speaker 2: and meditate all night, and they're just very powerful times,
48:07
Speaker 2: not just to be awake in the night, but to
48:10
Speaker 2: teach the mind that just because the body is saying
48:15
Speaker 2: sleep doesn't mean I have to be a robot responding
48:22
Speaker 2: to it. Body can say sleep and I say not tonight.
48:29
Speaker 2: Not that sleep is bad, not that I'm not going
48:31
Speaker 2: to sleep again, not that we shouldn't get a good
48:33
Speaker 2: night sleep.
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Speaker 3: We should.
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Speaker 2: And it's a very powerful way of training the mind
48:42
Speaker 2: to every once in a while engage in these practices,
48:46
Speaker 2: whether it's a short term fast, whether it's staying awake
48:51
Speaker 2: all night, meditating, whatever it may be, but something in
48:56
Speaker 2: which you know you're going to go back to it.
48:58
Speaker 2: I am going to eat again, and I am going
49:00
Speaker 2: to sleep again. But simply to train the mind. I'm
49:06
Speaker 2: not just a reactionary mechanism. There's some chemical reaction in
49:12
Speaker 2: the body and I jump to attention. The mind says eat,
49:16
Speaker 2: I eat. The mind says do this, I do it.
49:20
Speaker 2: So it trains the mind. Now, if you don't give
49:25
Speaker 2: in to the body's needs, ever, if you literally starve yourself,
49:30
Speaker 2: you will suffer. If you stop sleeping, you will suffer.
49:37
Speaker 2: There's lots of literature about I think it's two nights
49:41
Speaker 2: of sleep. I can't remember exactly the statistics, but something
49:44
Speaker 2: like going twenty four hours without sleep is something like
49:50
Speaker 2: the equivalent of drinking three glasses of alcohol.
49:54
Speaker 3: You're drunk.
49:56
Speaker 2: The mind and the brain and the body is that
49:59
Speaker 2: badly in haired So to not sleep, to not eat,
50:05
Speaker 2: to not drink harms the body before it even harms
50:11
Speaker 2: the emotions. But in short term, controlled bursts, it's actually
50:19
Speaker 2: very very powerful as a as a practice, a spiritual practice,
50:25
Speaker 2: to remind us that we are not just slaves. In
50:31
Speaker 2: terms of suppression of emotion. Yeah, you get, you get
50:39
Speaker 2: mental problems. I mean that you get, you become unhealthy.
50:43
Speaker 2: Mental health cannot be achieved through suppression. To simply say
50:49
Speaker 2: I'm not angry, right, somebody says to us, what's wrong?
50:54
Speaker 3: You say nothing? What is that actually achieved?
50:59
Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 2: We know we're angry. They obviously know we're angry. It's
51:05
Speaker 2: achieved nothing. But to draw a wedge further between us
51:10
Speaker 2: and that person who asked, and to deny it to
51:16
Speaker 2: ourselves is just as detrimental. You can't simply decide you
51:22
Speaker 2: are not angry. You have to actually work with anger.
51:26
Speaker 2: You have to make decisions that whatever it is that
51:29
Speaker 2: causes anger, my expectations, my grudges, that I'm actually going
51:36
Speaker 2: to work with those and let them go so that
51:38
Speaker 2: anger doesn't arise, not just that I'm going to take
51:42
Speaker 2: it and suppress it. So whenever emotions are there, what
51:50
Speaker 2: I always say is allow them, but don't hook the
51:56
Speaker 2: awareness into it. So it arises like a wave on
52:00
Speaker 2: the beach. It comes, and it peaks, and it dissipates
52:08
Speaker 2: and goes. We get stuck in emotions when we hook
52:12
Speaker 2: ourselves into it, when we start telling ourselves a story
52:16
Speaker 2: about it. So if I notice anger is arising, just
52:20
Speaker 2: the pure energy of anger, I'm not going to suppress it.
52:26
Speaker 2: I'm not going to deny it. I'm not going to
52:28
Speaker 2: repress it. But I'm also not going to get engaged
52:31
Speaker 2: in a whole drama around it. I'm not going to
52:35
Speaker 2: let the mind get into its whole story of why
52:39
Speaker 2: I'm angry and how dare that person? And I'm so
52:42
Speaker 2: nice to them and I do everything and then they
52:44
Speaker 2: treat me like junk and it's not fair and who
52:47
Speaker 2: do they think they are, and that's not healthy. All
52:53
Speaker 2: that does is it just keeps creating more and more anger.
52:58
Speaker 2: It just keeps intensifying, it intensifying it. It's not actually
53:04
Speaker 2: helping you heal from it. It's just building it up
53:07
Speaker 2: more and more and more. So when emotions arise, we
53:10
Speaker 2: just notice them. Ah anger, okay, and then you just
53:18
Speaker 2: allow it. It's just an energy. Just like any energy.
53:23
Speaker 2: You close your eyes and you allow it to come
53:26
Speaker 2: into the body and you just stay anchored in the
53:31
Speaker 2: breath and it'll do its thing. It'll literally rise in
53:35
Speaker 2: the body. You'll feel the breath get a little shorter,
53:38
Speaker 2: You'll feel it heartbeats start to increase a little. You
53:43
Speaker 2: may find yourself a little flushed, but you just keep
53:46
Speaker 2: drying the awareness to the breath, not to stop the anchor,
53:53
Speaker 2: but just to stay grounded in the midst of it.
53:56
Speaker 2: Literally like you would if there were a big wave
53:59
Speaker 2: in the ocean. You just stay anchered and grounded, and
54:03
Speaker 2: it just comes and it rises and it peaques, and
54:09
Speaker 2: you're still sitting, you're still breathing, and then it dissipates
54:16
Speaker 2: and again, like a wave, it just goes back out
54:18
Speaker 2: to see. So that's the way to deal with emotions.
54:23
Speaker 2: Don't repress them or deny them. You'll give yourself not
54:27
Speaker 2: only mental health issues, but physical health issues, because guess what,
54:33
Speaker 2: the mind and the body are not separate. What we think,
54:38
Speaker 2: how we feel is directly linked to not only our
54:45
Speaker 2: mental health but our physical health. So we allow it,
54:51
Speaker 2: we accept it. We see it, not suppressing, not denying.
54:57
Speaker 2: You can't renounce anger. When we talk about renunciation, it's
55:04
Speaker 2: a renunciation of different types of attachments. It's a renunciation
55:10
Speaker 2: of different worldviews. It's a renunciation of different activities. But
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Speaker 2: it's not a renunciation of emotion.
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Speaker 3: You can't do that.
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Speaker 2: The only way for them to dissipate is for you
55:24
Speaker 2: to notice them, be aware, allow, and then automatically they
55:32
Speaker 2: weigh on their own. If you can just unhook the
55:37
Speaker 2: mind that wants to keep repeating it over and over
55:43
Speaker 2: and over again. From it, this brings to a close
55:49
Speaker 2: this hour of inspiration and transformation. Thank you so much
55:56
Speaker 2: for joining me. I'm so glad to be together. They're
56:00
Speaker 2: with you all each week, and I look forward to
56:03
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