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224: Return of the Evil Dead · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 3: I'm with Night of the Living Dead, and I'm listening
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  Speaker 6: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Phillip.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Christian.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Ben. I'm Lucy. I'm Beau.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Alan.
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  Speaker 6: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 6: the Dreamland Film Center. And I think it's pretty fabulous.
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  Speaker 7: How about you guys? Yes, it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 6: We're testing things out. Hopefully, we're trying to find ourselves
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  Speaker 6: a new functional home base.
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  Speaker 7: So I like this, and I.
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  Speaker 6: Like what they're trying to do here. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 6: think we're going to try to work with them on
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  Speaker 6: some upcoming projects and do our own weird stuff here
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  Speaker 6: as much.
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  Speaker 7: As we can.
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  Speaker 6: This time, before just rolling into the geek activities, I
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  Speaker 6: think this takes its place. we, it's not a geek
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  Speaker 6: activity because we lost a major geek. And I thought
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  Speaker 6: we'll probably come back to our list of dead people
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  Speaker 6: next year. Like we did this time, but this one
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  Speaker 6: was a big deal. And I thought we should talk
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  Speaker 6: about Roger Ebert. I, for no other reason for me,
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  Speaker 6: then I don't know that this show would exist without it.
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  Speaker 6: Like to me, that was probably the first time in
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  Speaker 6: my memory that I remember seeing people really have a
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  Speaker 6: discussion about movies. And I, You know, I mean, there
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  Speaker 6: have been critics and they always kind of did their
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  Speaker 6: solo thing. And even there wasn't even a ton of
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  Speaker 6: them on TV at that point. It was still mostly written.
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  Speaker 6: But that to me and maybe somebody wants to nitpick
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  Speaker 6: and find something. I don't care. In my mind, that
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  Speaker 6: was the first time I remember seeing people sit down
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  Speaker 6: and discuss and argue and like just go at it
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  Speaker 6: and really invest time. so much of their life into movies.
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  Speaker 6: And that, again, that planted the seed for something that
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  Speaker 6: would surface years later. And I, for that reason, I'm
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  Speaker 6: sort of thankful to the both of them.
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  Speaker 8: Well, that and me growing up, just growing up out
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  Speaker 8: in the sticks, you know, I didn't really have access
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  Speaker 8: to many of these theaters.
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  Speaker 9: And once I got old enough where I could start
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  Speaker 9: driving and.
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  Speaker 8: I started finding just different art styles, locations that I
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  Speaker 8: could see these films that they talked about that was
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  Speaker 8: like my source to find out what film should I
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  Speaker 8: be seeing that we're currently out because I started to
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  Speaker 8: become a movie geek when I was in high school
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  Speaker 8: I've been one for a long time but like really
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  Speaker 8: wanting to branch out and that was my source material
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  Speaker 8: on where to branch out is growing up and watching
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  Speaker 8: them once a week and it almost sort of developed
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  Speaker 8: like this checklist as to what do I need to
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  Speaker 8: see and or what do I need to avoid so
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  Speaker 8: I mean granted you know we've talked about this before
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  Speaker 8: And I was having recommendations when I was going to
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  Speaker 8: Suncoast all the time as.
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  Speaker 4: Well as school teachers. But that was like, not to.
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  Speaker 8: Diss the Suncoast people, but like the overarching professional recommendation as.
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  Speaker 4: To what I needed to see.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm still thankful that you recommended the car
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  Speaker 8: to me.
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  Speaker 4: And I bought that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's another thing that's kind of interesting is that they,
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  Speaker 6: for being on, you know, what was a big TV
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  Speaker 6: show at the time, they still managed to put a
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  Speaker 6: lot of time into little indie movies. They would do
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  Speaker 6: one or two of the big ones that came out
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  Speaker 6: that weekend, but they would devote equally as much time
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  Speaker 6: to movies that I bet a good portion of the
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  Speaker 6: cities that show was playing in, it never even played.
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  Speaker 6: It wouldn't play, and they still gave attention to little
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  Speaker 6: indie movies. So that's, for that time, almost unheard of, really.
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  Speaker 9: That no one can also not acknowledge the fact that
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  Speaker 9: Beyond the.
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  Speaker 4: Valley of the Dolls. I love that movie.
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  Speaker 8: Is there a show in the past that has actually
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  Speaker 8: done Beyond the Valley of the Dolls?
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  Speaker 6: On our show?
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  Speaker 10: No.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't think there had been.
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  Speaker 6: We definitely need to work it in.
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  Speaker 8: Another recommendation. That's on my top ten and has been
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  Speaker 8: for years. Just because it is so much fun. It's
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  Speaker 8: just so much fun from beginning to end. And I
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  Speaker 8: can just imagine Russ Meyer and Roger Ebert just in
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  Speaker 8: the room cackling with laughter as they're coming.
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  Speaker 4: Up with the script for it.
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  Speaker 11: So....
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  Speaker 8: If anything, whenever you watch it, it's a shame that
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  Speaker 8: he didn't write more screenplays.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I think he did post on his blog. I guess
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  Speaker 9: it was about six months ago.
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  Speaker 4: I remember seeing it.
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  Speaker 8: He posted his other screenplay that he wrote at the
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  Speaker 8: time and it was never made. It's like Who Killed
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  Speaker 8: Bambi or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a Sex Pistols movie. We were supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be in Sex Pistols in a film directed by Rod.
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  Speaker 4: Is that the name of it?
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  Speaker 1: Russ Meyers. Yeah, who killed Bambi. That was the working title.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they were planning on changing that
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  Speaker 1: or not.
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  Speaker 11: I had no idea that was written by him.
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  Speaker 1: That's really interesting.
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  Speaker 6: He's a hell of an interesting guy, I have to say.
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  Speaker 6: As the years went on, just more and more aspects
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  Speaker 6: of him that you're just like, man, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Especially when his personality went online. The way I grew up,
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  Speaker 4: I saw bits and pieces. I grew up in the 90s,
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  Speaker 4: so by the time I did see.
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  Speaker 4: At the movies, it was kind of the period where
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  Speaker 4: Gene Siskel was close to the end. He was not
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  Speaker 4: going to be on the show for very much longer.
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  Speaker 4: I knew who Siskel and Ebert were. They were still
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  Speaker 4: part of the pop culture. I enjoyed watching when I
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  Speaker 4: saw the show, but it wasn't really until when I
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  Speaker 4: got to high school where I started going to RogerEbert.com
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  Speaker 4: and reading the reviews for whatever was coming out that week.
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  Speaker 4: A couple years later, he started doing his journal and
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  Speaker 4: his blog. And then I started watching all these archived
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  Speaker 4: YouTube clips of all the older episodes that I hadn't
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  Speaker 4: seen on TV. And at the same time watching Richard
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  Speaker 4: Roper and, you know, all the new hosts. And you
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  Speaker 4: kind of got like, the way I was introduced to him,
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of like this explosion because the internet
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  Speaker 4: added this whole other side to him. Because, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I knew he was on TV, but like I always
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  Speaker 4: thought of him growing up before that, that he was
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  Speaker 4: just this TV personality. He was this popular critic. I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know like his writing was this good or he
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  Speaker 4: had such insight into movies and how much he really
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  Speaker 4: loved movies until like, went to his website and just
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  Speaker 4: like kind of got that side of it.
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  Speaker 8: Especially after he lost almost all of his jaw to cancer.
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  Speaker 8: That's where he found like.
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  Speaker 4: His new voice. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, like going on and reviewing films and sharing
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  Speaker 8: that with people.
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  Speaker 6: That's the thing that's amazing for him is like, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: he'd been a writer, but he'd been a newspaper man,
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  Speaker 6: like back when it was really a newspaper job. And
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  Speaker 6: the fact that he so late in his life, just, just,
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  Speaker 6: effortlessly shifted to the internet and with that I mean
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  Speaker 6: how many other 70 year olds are still running a
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  Speaker 6: blog every day and tweeting and I mean he was
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  Speaker 6: he was like had more of an online presence than
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  Speaker 6: most people you know that are a fraction.
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  Speaker 8: Of his age because he wasn't limited by when he
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  Speaker 8: could either be published or be on television it's like
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  Speaker 8: he can type up anything whenever he wants.
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  Speaker 5: And he was brilliant not just in film but in
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  Speaker 5: a lot of things he was and he just had
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  Speaker 5: talent pouring out of his brain I think most of
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  Speaker 5: the time And he had an opinion about everything, which was,
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  Speaker 5: but I, it's funny, Ben, you were talking about how
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  Speaker 5: the internet, and I pictured you said, well, until then,
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  Speaker 5: he was just maybe a TV personality that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: talked about film or something like that. And you didn't really,
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, so you mean like Gene Shalit?
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  Speaker 13: Not quite that bad i mean i knew he was
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  Speaker 13: the critic i knew i knew there was something i
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  Speaker 13: knew there was something i knew he was a cut
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  Speaker 13: above the rest like he was like you know the
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  Speaker 13: the go-to critic but i really didn't have that kind
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  Speaker 13: of you know second.
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  Speaker 4: Like like oh wow this guy really is amazing until
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  Speaker 4: like i i just knew like i saw his writing
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  Speaker 4: and But yeah, he wasn't quite... He's a mustache guy.
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  Speaker 14: I know, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I know that.
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  Speaker 9: I think he still does stuff once a week, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I think so.
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  Speaker 4: The Today Show?
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  Speaker 1: I think he's on the Today Show.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 5: I just noticed at the last time I ever saw him,
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  Speaker 5: I've known forever, if he recommended it, I wasn't going
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  Speaker 5: to see it because almost every time.
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  Speaker 9: Well, that sounds nervous.
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  Speaker 8: But still, you find that critic to where you really
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  Speaker 8: like your personality and movie taste sync up with them.
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  Speaker 9: And for me, it was either.
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  Speaker 9: Ebert or Peter Travers.
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  Speaker 4: One of the two.
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  Speaker 11: Those are always the two that I disagree with.
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  Speaker 6: Imagine that.
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  Speaker 11: You know, when you hear that somebody's passed away, you
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  Speaker 11: have an image of them that pops in your head
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  Speaker 11: and it's usually a very affectionate image. And, um, I
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  Speaker 11: used to work in film publicity in Atlanta and part
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  Speaker 11: of what we would do would be setting up, um,
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  Speaker 11: press screenings and our, uh, The folks we did in
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  Speaker 11: the Southeast and then the folks, our counterparts in the
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  Speaker 11: Midwest office were obviously in Chicago. And this may or
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  Speaker 11: may not be true. I'm choosing to believe it's true.
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  Speaker 11: I guess he would demand his own screenings and then
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  Speaker 11: would bring in a giant plate of spaghetti and eat
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  Speaker 11: spaghetti throughout the film. So that's just how I think
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  Speaker 11: of him always.
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  Speaker 6: Which person? Roger Ebert. Roger Ebert?
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  Speaker 4: I would do that. So that's how I imagine it.
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  Speaker 8: He had a spaghetti show before we did.
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  Speaker 4: As long as he always referred to it as bisketty.
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  Speaker 8: This very educated man still refers to it as bisketty.
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  Speaker 4: He walks into the theater, looks the usher in the eye,
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  Speaker 4: holding the plays like, I've earned this.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just thinking he sort of beat Austin to that
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  Speaker 6: whole thing. He sort of invented that. He's like, I'm
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  Speaker 6: also bringing a beer in here. Stop me. I'm Roger Ebert.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Roger Ebert. He says that first.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, but that is one of those that
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  Speaker 6: he wrote so much anyway, but then when I saw,
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  Speaker 6: like you were saying, how much he really found his
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  Speaker 6: voice when he didn't literally have one anymore, they said
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  Speaker 6: he had been, for 46 years, he'd been writing reviews,
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  Speaker 6: and they said he was writing like 200 reviews a
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  Speaker 6: year until this last year it's last year he's quoted
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  Speaker 6: and said last year I wrote the most of my
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  Speaker 6: career including 306 movie reviews a blog post or two
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  Speaker 6: a week and other assorted articles That's amazing. Like, really,
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  Speaker 6: that was all he did.
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  Speaker 4: The most introspective, like, writing was, like, I mean, it started,
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  Speaker 4: I think, I don't know when he started doing his, like,
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  Speaker 4: great movies. Like, I don't know when exactly that started.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's been doing it for a long time.
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  Speaker 4: I think he started compiling them in the 90s. In
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  Speaker 4: the 90s. But, like, I mean, those were just really
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  Speaker 4: reflective and just kind of went deeper into his personal
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  Speaker 4: taste and how movies affected him. And before that, like,
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  Speaker 4: when you read his really old reviews, I guess, like,
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  Speaker 4: from the 70s and 80s, like, when I would just
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  Speaker 4: look up random stuff, They just felt like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: very strict movie reviews, you know, and there wasn't, they
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  Speaker 4: were still very well written and interesting, but I felt like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, after reading, like, his great movie series, and then,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he went to the internet and started doing
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  Speaker 4: his blog, and especially after, like, you know, he got
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  Speaker 4: his cancer, like, he just went into, like, Superman mode
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  Speaker 4: in terms of just, you know, his writing quality, I thought,
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  Speaker 4: at least.
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  Speaker 6: I think he just focused. Like, there wasn't anything else
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  Speaker 6: at that point.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the focus just intensified, I think.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just amazed at how many movies he saw. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure he has access to them. That's the,
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  Speaker 5: that's the most important part, I think for me. But
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  Speaker 5: I was like, I was looking recently at the things
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  Speaker 5: that he's written. I was like, he's written a review
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  Speaker 5: on everything.
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  Speaker 8: And it's, that's the whole thing is dedicating so much
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  Speaker 8: to like modern films.
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  Speaker 9: Cause I just have trouble prioritizing what's in theaters.
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  Speaker 4: There's always have.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, it's, I usually see about 200 new movies
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  Speaker 8: a year, but it's, In the way of what's actually
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  Speaker 8: in theaters, I see maybe 25 to 50. And usually
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  Speaker 8: then I'm mostly seeing the Oscar stuff because it's nominated
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  Speaker 8: and I want to have an objective opinion having seen
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  Speaker 8: all the films.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: I just tend to find more time to watch older stuff.
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  Speaker 8: Of course, I guess you could argue that near the
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  Speaker 8: end of his career he had already seen a substantial
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  Speaker 8: amount that was older. But he still would review films.
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  Speaker 8: older films that he would discover, too. Or go back
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  Speaker 8: and re-review something that he felt like he'd.
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  Speaker 4: Misjudged.
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  Speaker 8: Wasn't it, I think, Blade Runner that he panned first
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  Speaker 8: time around and went back and reappraised it?
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  Speaker 6: It was interesting that he would do that on occasion.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did too.
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  Speaker 4: His great movie series. And he did that a couple
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  Speaker 4: times on some other movies. So I was just always,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he still hadn't, you know, he never really
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  Speaker 4: did change his stance on a lot of kind of,
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  Speaker 4: which I thought was kind of awesome like you know
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  Speaker 4: he never really i mean he didn't dislike it but
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  Speaker 4: he was never like a huge uh you know he
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  Speaker 4: never really got behind the godfather 2 or like like
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  Speaker 4: blue velvet like those were kind of his notorious kind
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  Speaker 4: of like everyone holds those movies up as a classic
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  Speaker 4: and he still like would remind people like i still
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  Speaker 4: don't think this movie's very good and i just thought
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  Speaker 4: that was kind of awesome like he never really caved
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  Speaker 4: in to popular opinion or like.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I know we have a lot of horror fans,
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  Speaker 6: and a lot of what we watch is horror. He
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  Speaker 6: was never big on horror.
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  Speaker 4: And it's funny.
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  Speaker 6: But to me, it's not that he was biased against it.
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  Speaker 6: He was just really hard on it. It was like
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  Speaker 6: he wanted to hold it to that standard. And I
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  Speaker 6: know a lot of people in the horror scene didn't
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  Speaker 6: like him just because he was always kind of giving
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  Speaker 6: it back to you.
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  Speaker 8: Well, just because I think when it comes to both
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  Speaker 8: horror and romance, both of them are totally focused on
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  Speaker 8: trying to exploit one emotion more often than tell a story.
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  Speaker 9: And I guess you could say the same goes for comedy.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: It's just I feel like it's such an.
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  Speaker 8: Easy medium to just go with the cheap punches, and
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  Speaker 8: so often people do. And if anything, it's like I
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  Speaker 8: appreciate the fact that he's trying to crucify.
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  Speaker 9: These individuals that are just doing that.
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  Speaker 8: They're just trying to exploit rather than tell a story,
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  Speaker 8: which is what I always kind of liked about one
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  Speaker 8: of his more frequently quoted films, comments on movies.
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  Speaker 9: It's not what a film is about, but how it
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  Speaker 9: is about it.
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  Speaker 4: I always appreciate that.
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  Speaker 8: It's like, yeah, it can be a very, very cheesy premise,
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  Speaker 8: but if they went all out for it, why not
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  Speaker 8: give them props for doing just that?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, I always kind of appreciated that. Me doing
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  Speaker 9: like my.
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  Speaker 8: Own goofy little low budgets projects on the side. So,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I always use that as a recipe, even
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  Speaker 8: like when he gave a good review to Jackass 2
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  Speaker 8: of all things. It's like, technically, if you look at it,
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  Speaker 8: they do a lot with the money they have, especially
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  Speaker 8: at the ending of this huge musical finale. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: other points in the film, it's just, let's get this
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  Speaker 8: animal to ram someone in the balls. But it was
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  Speaker 8: also strange that he was talking about how it's like
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  Speaker 8: the natural extension of all the early physical comedy that
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  Speaker 8: you had was like, you know, Keaton and Lloyd and
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  Speaker 8: stuff like that. And I was like, that's a really
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  Speaker 8: weird take for a critic to take on jackass when
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  Speaker 8: everybody else is just dumping on it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's one of the other things. I like that
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: he held horror to that kind of standard. And I
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: like that he also didn't play the snobby critic role.
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: Like there's sometimes when he would pick something totally out
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: of the blue like that and just be like, you
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: know what? I don't care what anybody else says. I
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: like this movie. I'm sticking with it. And like he
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: would pick stuff that was just weird and things you
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: would never expect him to like and just be totally
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: on board. Or big, you know, Oscar caliber movies and
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: be like, nope, don't thank you. So he didn't just
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: play the straightforward, you know, safe critic mode. He did
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: whatever the hell he wanted to do.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Well, he also told you why a movie did or
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: didn't work.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: You know, what was wrong with the plot, the pacing.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Just a really thorough, I guess, reviewer.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: He was just smart.
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah. And we, I mean, in our, like, people that
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: get overlooked in the oscars special that was one that
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: at the time really pissed me off that they did
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: not mention siskel when he passed and i'm like that
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: i i understand they like it's everybody in the industry
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: in the industry but i was like i did because
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: i still.
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: Remember that no he wasn't but it had happened like
• 16:45
  Speaker 8: a week before or something like that and i remember
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: whoopi goldberg she was hosting that year and she said
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: incidentally we had a recent loss and she just like
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: gave a thumbs up She got everyone to do a
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: thumbs up for him. Because I remember that during the
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: Oscar ceremony. It had happened less than a week before
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: the Oscar ceremony.
• 17:06
  Speaker 9: I remember that. Because I guess that would be... I'm
• 17:09
  Speaker 9: trying to remember. I think that would be 2001's Oscars.
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: I don't know anybody that had an impact on the
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: public consciousness of appreciating film like those two guys. The
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, nobody, like there aren't any critics that have
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: ever broken through to even to the point of the
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: mainstream and to make people in the mainstream, maybe rethink big,
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: dumb Hollywood movies and be like, Oh, maybe, maybe there
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: is something more. Maybe I should question them a little more.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: And that's, I think the two of them did more
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: in that area than anybody else ever.
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: And I had an interesting talk with a friend talking
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: about how it might be the day that like professional
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: movie reviews have sort of died. I mean, you still
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: have people who've been doing it for a while. Like
• 17:54
  Speaker 8: I was saying, Peter Travers earlier, A.O. Scott, you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: folks have been around for a while. But he was
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: the first one to really set that precedent. And now,
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: I mean, anybody who just wants to get on and
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: get a free blogging account can ramble about movies.
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: We do it all the time.
• 18:07
  Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly.
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: But he actually, like, worked his way up through the
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: journalistic ranks to achieve that success.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: And there are no names now. I mean, even like,
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: there aren't anybody, like Rex Reed used to be a
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: name now.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: It's like, What kids are going to see now.
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: Leonard Moulton has always kind of been a gag name.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: Leonard Moulton is still fun. He's still out there and
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: he's still doing it. And he's got a good sense
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: of humor. I like Leonard Moulton. But again, he's not,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: I don't know, he doesn't have the take on it
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: that Ebert did.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: He doesn't have the presence that Ebert did.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: No, he does the guide. And at this point, even
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: half the guide is turned over to his staff. So,
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, he just does it. He doesn't focus.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: He seems like a movie just grader. He doesn't seem
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: like a movie lover. He's funny. If there's anyone who's
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: seen more movies than Roger Ebert, it's probably Leonard Vaughn.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: That guy's seen everything. That just reminded me, because I
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: saw an interesting thing on Twitter the other day. After
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Ebert died, someone made the comment, and it's true, this
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: is the last time there's going to be this kind
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: of public... outpouring of just mourning for a movie critic ever. Like,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: this isn't going to happen again. I think that's true
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: of journalism anyway.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Journalism is dying and journalists will be dying.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: There are no more household names in journalism anymore.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: There haven't been for decades.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: A long time.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: There's no names. It's all people on the internet now.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: And anybody can do it on the internet. So there's
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: no focus where anybody gets to be a name.
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: There aren't any Walter Cronkites, you know.
• 19:41
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Or Andy Rooney's either.
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: It's all that stuff is.
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: Going, is falling by the wayside.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: I just thought it was sort of a big deal.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: and certainly in our little world here and talking about
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: movies that yeah it's a big passing I think so
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: I thought we would at least address it this.
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: Week like I said I didn't spend when I found
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: out I didn't I actually still haven't read it like
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: any in memoriams I just popped in Beyond the Valley
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: of Dolls and said alright let's roll with this.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: His one movie.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: We're sticking with it. I also have to credit him.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: He's the whole reason that, you know, I was drawn to,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: who's now like my favorite director, Werner Herzog. And I
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: also think he really, like the way he championed Herzog,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: like he was definitely one of his favorite filmmakers. I
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: honestly think he had a big hand in just introducing
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: a new generation to his movies. Like I really do think, like,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: you know, where you can get, like I have like
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: the box set, like one of his box sets, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: you know, even on the cover, it has this like
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: ribbon cover that you... that's bound around it where it
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: has a quote from Roger Ebert about Klaus Kinski and, uh, Herzog.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: And just, he would constantly write about it. He always
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: gave them these amazing reviews. He would like always make
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: it a point whenever Herzog had a new documentary on
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: the show to like champion it and to, you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: go back to why Herzog is this great filmmaker. And
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I just thought that was just really awesome. Cause I mean,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't even know, I probably wouldn't even have seen her.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would have seen maybe grizzly man, but
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have gone any further than that if it
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: weren't for Ebert. So That was pretty awesome.
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: I won't take any shame at all to say, Roger Ebert,
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: you are my superwoman.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: And I'll leave it at that.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: All right. Well, we've set our piece for Roger. He
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: will be missed by many, I'm sure. We will take
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: a break here and we're going to get rid of
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: some of these bastards because they didn't go see the.
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: Movie this week.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: So we're going to cut a few of you loose
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: and then the rest of us will be back to watch.
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: I was too busy cleaning up after you.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: I threw as much popcorn on the floor as We
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: will be back to talk about the movie.
• 22:10
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• 22:16
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• 22:18
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• 22:27
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  Speaker 15: I'm Dangerous Jamie. Joining me, as always, is Sarah.
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: And we're going to talk to you about why you
• 23:54
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• 23:57
  Speaker 15: Let's, indeed. Why should they be listening to the Gold
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• 24:01
  Speaker 14: Well, firstly, because it's awesome, obviously.
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• 24:03
  Speaker 15: I mean, that's a given, or a given.
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  Speaker 6: A given, yeah.
• 24:06
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• 24:09
  Speaker 15: Yeah. With zero context.
• 24:11
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• 24:13
  Speaker 15: But also, we review horror films.
• 24:15
  Speaker 14: Mostly, we review horror films, I would say.
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  Speaker 15: Well, yeah. That's probably the bulk of what we do.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, we do some horror news.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, we've done a bunch of stuff. We've got Revenge
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  Speaker 3: Beyond any terror you have imagined, a nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: Unlike anything you have witnessed, is born. Hi, my name
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  Speaker 3: The unholy is unleashed.
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  Speaker 7: Get more out of life. Go out to a movie.
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  Speaker 4: Out of town. Out of town. Out of the night.
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  Speaker 4: Out of town. The possessed must be cleansed.
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  Speaker 16: There was something in the woods.
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  Speaker 14: What are you doing?
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Mia put the gun down. You are all going to
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: die tonight. Something evil is attached to Mia's soul. We're
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: gonna have.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: To kill her.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: This is insane. It's three boys.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: A live burial. Purification by fire.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Why are you hurting me?
• 28:52
  Speaker 15: You're not her.
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  Speaker 4: Evil dead. Evil dead.
• 28:59
  Speaker 17: In theaters friday why don't you just accept your fate
• 29:03
  Speaker 17: and join us ashley don't you want to join the
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  Speaker 17: crew you'll be dead and evil too the coolest thing
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  Speaker 17: to do is join us your life sucks you know
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  Speaker 17: working at smart's gotta blow don't be just a fucking
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  Speaker 17: schmo and join us You'll be dead with no remorse
• 29:23
  Speaker 17: and be hung like a horse.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: You can even bang.
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: A corpse if you're giant. Imagine all the fun if
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: to evil you succumb.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: So just lay.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Down that big gun and join.
• 29:34
  Speaker 17: Our dark army of evil Kantarian demons as we conquer
• 29:39
  Speaker 17: this land and take over each and every soul of
• 29:43
  Speaker 17: the living.
• 29:43
  Speaker 15: No!
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: No! No, I'm not!
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Dad saw three, then one, then two.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Two was the first one I saw, but that was
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: only because my friend's dad in grade school was this
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: cool guy who had all these Laserdisc of horror movies,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: like a whole den collection of it, and he showed
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: it to us, and I was like.
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: Six years old.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: What's this shiny record?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you only had two on Laserdisc. That wasn't my
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: favorite movie viewing experience.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: It's red. I got the special edition. It's a red Laserdisc.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember it was red.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: It had a sticker on it, Blood Red Lasers.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had all the stuff collected. It was great.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: That's kind of cool.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: That's one of the reasons I still have it, because
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: I don't, well, that's not true. I just watch something
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: on my desk. So I will technically still watch that occasionally,
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: but mostly I kept it because it's red, and it's
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: pretty awesome. All right, we are back, and we've cut
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: loose a few of those suckers. So to reestablish who
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: is on hand now.
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: Would you like to reintroduce yourself?
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Brian.
• 30:40
  Speaker 14: Hi, I'm Phillip.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I'm Christian.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I'm Christian. I'm Ben.
• 30:43
  Speaker 14: I'm Bo.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: That's a bye. I'm Lucy.
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: All right, then.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: You almost had me.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: I was going to ruin him. I can't believe Bo
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: said that. What a horrible person he is.
• 30:56
  Speaker 17: God.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: I liked Bo up until this episode, but it just
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: went downhill after that Ebert thing. So, this week's Out
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: on the Town feature is Evil Dead, the year, obviously, 2013.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: The director, I'll try to get this right, Fede Alvarez?
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: They plot, according to IMDb, five friends head to a
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: remote cabin where the discovery of a Book of the
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: Dead leads them to unwittingly summon up demons living in
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: the nearby woods. The evil presence possesses them until only
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: one is left to fight for survival. Spoiler alert! I mean,
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: I guess we saw that coming, but you might not
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: put that directly in the plot. Okay, um... Yeah. My thoughts...
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: I guess if we wanted to do some sort of intro,
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: it's based on, I mean, it was actually about a
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: year ago we did an entire episode based on remakes,
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: and it was just our discussion of remakes. And at
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: that point, it sort of turned things around for me.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: I was at the point where everybody else and I
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: just bitched about remakes, and I was like, we'd found
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: so many good ones in that episode that I was
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: kind of like, okay, maybe I'm just being like everyone
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: else on the internet was, just kind of bitchy about it.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: Maybe we should stop and think about it. And I
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: was like, the basic way to do this is to
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: take the original idea of the movie and not do
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: a shot for shot remake because that's boring. And why
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: would you do that? And not to completely do a
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: different story because why call it a remake then, but
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: to find some sort of middle ground and to take
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: that original idea and then put your own spin on
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: it and, you know, kind of stick with the basic concept,
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: but not stray too far that it doesn't make any sense.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: And that would be the right way to do a remake.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: That was my feelings going in. You guys, I guess,
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: can take it where you want. If we even want
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: to address it massively as the remake, I specifically didn't
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: go back and rewatch the original. We were talking about
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: that yesterday. Right. We kind of wanted it to stand
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: on its own, this new one. So, yeah, you guys,
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: where would you like to begin after that little breakdown there?
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: I think some people weren't as thrilled as others, so
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: we'll get into it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah, am I the only one that didn't like it?
• 33:02
  Speaker 11: I thought it stood on its own and it sucked
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: on its own, and that's all I've got.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I was very disappointed in it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: Hopefully you'll have more to back it up.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, not just the fact that it, I mean, because,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: you know, it's not like I was like, this has
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: to be as good as Evil Dead, because the first
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: one isn't my favorite. I was actually introduced to the
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Evil Dead with the, you know, the 1981 version. like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: pretty late. Like, I had seen Evil Dead 2, then
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Army of Darkness. Then a couple years later, I bought
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: the DVD of Evil Dead and finally saw it. And, like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I admired it. I was like, yeah, this is entertaining.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: This is fun. It has some really cool, gross effects
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: in it. And the campy bad acting without, you know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: trying to be good but still bad acting was fun.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, this is cool. So I
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: heard they were remaking this one. I saw the trailer.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I had my reservations. I was like, maybe they could do...
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: They have an angle with this. They're being very... It
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: could be this... I can see they're not going to
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: have a lot of humor. I'm fine with that. A
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: lot of people want the Evil Dead 2 kind of goofiness.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I'm fine with them not having humor because the first
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: one didn't necessarily have this outrageous sense of humor to it.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: It was just all... The humor was just unintentional. But
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: this one was so.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It was so by the book, not
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: by the book, but just like, we have to like,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: here's now there's, here's the, uh, the demon in the
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: cellar and here's where some gross thing happens. And it
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: was just this, then this, then it just never really
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: had a sense of purpose. Like it did not need
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: to be made. That's kind of my general is just
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: that it just was unnecessary.
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: Pretty much.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: It couldn't, if it were a better movie, I maybe
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: would have... I still probably thought it would have been unnecessary,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: but it would still have been like I would have
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: appreciated it. But the movie still wasn't particularly good, so
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: it was just unnecessary and just not a movie I
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: liked very much.
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: See, I'm very confused by the tone, and maybe you guys...
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: Maybe I just missed it, but I didn't understand... I mean,
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: I don't, I remember the first one having a sense
• 35:09
  Speaker 11: of humor and a sense of joy to it that
• 35:11
  Speaker 11: I felt this one didn't have.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: The first one, yeah, it did have, like, a sense of, like,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: play to it. Like, it was like, you wanted the
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: audience to have fun. It didn't want you to be like, oh,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: that's fucking terrible. Like, this is so gory. No, the
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: sequel did.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: No, I just rewatched it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Well, even the first one, no, no, I think Lucy's right. Like,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: there really was this kind of, like, you could tell, like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: they were having, like, Sam Raimi was like, oh, this
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: is going to be, like, you know, this is going
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: to be a real, you know, experience, like, It's going
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: to be crazy. There's going to be an audience participate.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: This is going to be this kind of fun. Horror
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: can still be scary and intense, but it can still
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: have this sense of uplift. And I think he was
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: going for that uplift. He wasn't trying to beat the
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: audience with these seriously intense... I mean, the gore was
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: probably way more intense at the time, but at the
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: same time, I don't think it was the same kind
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: of violence... Or this sense of self-seriousness that this one had.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: That wasn't there in the original. And I don't know.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: This one did have some... There were a little bit
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: of comedic. Especially just how outrageous it got. But overall,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: the tone was just... I felt it wasn't quite right.
• 36:27
  Speaker 11: And it's not what I was expecting because knowing that
• 36:28
  Speaker 11: Diablo Cody worked on the screenplay, it felt like that's
• 36:31
  Speaker 11: why she was brought in, to give it this sort
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: of self-awareness and this sort of playfulness that I just
• 36:36
  Speaker 11: didn't think was there. It was, to me, just boring.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the worst thing. What were you going to say?
• 36:43
  Speaker 18: No, I was just bored most of the time. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 18: just found it very boring, and I couldn't wait for
• 36:49
  Speaker 18: it to be over.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: There was actually a spoiler.
• 36:52
  Speaker 14: We do that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: The sequence where the girlfriend gets dragged down the stairs.
• 37:02
  Speaker 11: So it shows her being pulled into the stairway and
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: then it goes black. And I was like, thank God
• 37:07
  Speaker 11: we're not going to dwell on this. She'll just be
• 37:09
  Speaker 11: dead and we can move on. And then it cuts
• 37:12
  Speaker 11: to like in the cellar.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: It's like, oh, seriously?
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: It's like we have to have, yeah. And it's like
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: we've seen this. I mean, and this kind of, you know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: sequence can be well done where like someone's wandering around
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: in the basement. If it's put in the right context
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: and the direction's right and you're really, there really is
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: suspense there, you can have, the scene where the person's
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: holding a flashlight, looking around. And so that can be
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: scary as hell, but it's just, it felt so boring
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: in this movie. Like it was literally, I'm talking about
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: like this, particularly the scene, um, where, uh, the, the brother, uh,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: it's like halfway through the movie, he's going down into
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: the cellar with a flashlight and he's looking for his
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: possessed demon sister. And of course you're like, okay, well,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: you know, he doesn't see anything at first. And, you know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: at some point she's going to jump out. It's just
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: a matter of when. And, you know, in front of me, uh,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: like some woman had her phone out and was texting.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: I was like, I might actually like, I might break
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: my rule of not having my phone out in a theater.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Like if this, if this scene doesn't get to the point,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: like it's just dragging. It's so boring. Like I just
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: checked out it.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's say I, I enjoyed the movie. Um,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I wasn't bored by it. Was it a quote unquote
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: good movie, but no, I don't think so. But at
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the same time you could argue that the original one,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't a technically good movie, which I'm a huge fan
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: of the original, don't get me wrong, and I tried
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: to do the best I could to separate the two movies,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: which was really, really hard to do because there's so
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: much built up about the original Evil Dead. I think,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you know, did the movie have its flaws? Yes, it
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: had tons of them, but again, so did the original one.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: And I kind of think that they, you know, I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: think the filmmakers knew, look, we've got a lot to
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: live up here, got a lot to live up to.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: If we make it a good Polished movie. Everybody's going
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: to bitch about how, well, you know, the original one
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: was just a bunch of kids making a movie, which
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: is what it was. And they created something special. But
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: if we, you know, if the same time, if we
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: make it look like we're slacking off, we're going to
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: have a crappy product. But I think overall, I mean,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: it was just. You know, it didn't... Passable? It didn't try... Like,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: say I enjoyed it.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally get it. And I kind of agree
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: with people who are saying it's solid, it works, it
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: gets the job done.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: I totally... does, but at the same time for me,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: having seen this kind of movie so many times, the
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: novelty that the original had when it came out, how
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: that novelty overcame the many flaws of it, the polished
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: aspect or the direction of this one does not overcome
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: those flaws in the same way that the novelty of
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: the original did, and that's why this doesn't work.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I think, you know, because especially if you're familiar
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: with the original Evil Dead, there's nothing. You shouldn't take
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: that movie seriously, just like this one. I mean, it's
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: just a splatter film with a supernatural element from beginning
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: to end. And I think if you look at it
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: that way, if you don't look at it to try to,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: you know, exceed any sort of expectation, I think it
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: more or less works.
• 40:14
  Speaker 11: I felt like this film was trying to be taken seriously.
• 40:17
  Speaker 11: Or that maybe some of the actors thought this was
• 40:19
  Speaker 11: a serious film.
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: I couldn't really.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: The.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Actors did not... Yeah, that's one thing. The actors did
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: not seem to like... I felt like the lead felt
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: like she was trying to make it way more... She
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: was actually one of the better... I mean, I think
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Jane Levy, she was really good in the movie. But
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: at the same time.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: I really liked her in it, actually.
• 40:36
  Speaker 15: Yeah, she.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, you really bought into her performance.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: But.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: And maybe it's just, I think all the actors did fine, really.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: It's just, I think all of the, whatever you would
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: call bad acting, that's all pretty much the fault of
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: a really, really underdeveloped script that literally has dialogue that's
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: just all exposition for 30 minutes, where they're just like,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I'm your sister. Just like, oh, she's your sister.
• 40:56
  Speaker 11: Yeah, okay.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: And it's just that kind of dialogue that you have
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: to get past. And some characters just aren't given that
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: much to say, so they just seem like, you know...
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: people might confuse bad acting with just like, no, they
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: just didn't say much. You know, they just were there
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: and everyone did a good job. Like the actors were fine.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: They're way like miles and miles better than the, you know,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: as far as acting job or ability, you know, than
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: the original.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't care for the actor who played David, who
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: is basically the character of David has replaced the character
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: of Ash, who of course is played by Bruce Campbell,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: which I thought that was a good idea to kind
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: of change it up a little bit. Cause I think
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: that did help to separate it. The other thing, though,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: that I wasn't really crazy about was they tried to
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: give you a little bit of backstory to what had
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: happened in that area before the kids got there. Because
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I think within the original, they just kind of show up.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: They're just there to party. There's no big super reason
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: why they're there. And I think that in the original
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: kind of helped move the story along a little bit
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: because it's really not much of a story.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know why they felt the need that they
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: had to address, like, why are they at this cabin?
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: It's like, does it matter? Like, people just go, like,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: this happens all the time with college. Like, they just
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: go out to a cabin to have fun. Like, why
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: does there need to be this dramatic... And then it's just,
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: and the fact that the whole thing with the heroin
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: detox is not followed through, like, it's not addressed, or, like,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: there's no change in her character. Like, there's no... It just,
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: it's totally just pushed away, and it's like, now people
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: get possessed. All that, all the heroin thing was there for, apparently,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: was just to explain why they're at the cabin. It's like, well,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: why did you need this crazy convoluted heroin thing when
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: you could just been like they're just up there to
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: have some fun like if you're not gonna push if
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: you're not gonna if you're not gonna develop it later
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: into the film then why have that kind of they.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Did kind of they did kind of touch on that
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: earlier with how they talked how you know they had
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: gone through it before with her and she'd given up
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and they needed to make sure that she didn't try
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: to escape this time yeah.
• 42:52
  Speaker 13: I think that was the main thing they wanted they
• 42:54
  Speaker 13: really really.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Wanted to like address critics and i'm not one of
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: those critics i think it's dumb if you're like why
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: don't If you watch a horror movie and you get
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: mad at people who make dumb decisions, then you're just
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: not watching it for the right reason. You know what
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I mean? Like, why don't they just leave the cabin? Well,
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: it's like, I think the bridge thing is enough of a,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: that's all you need. Like, the fact that the bridge
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: is out, that's, like, fine. I don't need to, a
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: strict reason why they can't literally leave the building or
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: the cabin itself. Like, you know, that the heroin thing
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: apparently is there for that. Like, you know, we're not
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: going to let you leave this cabin. I don't think
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: you need it. That was just trying too hard to
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: really address those kind of critics. It was trying to
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: reinvent the movie. They were just looking at the wrong
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: areas of the movie in terms of reinventing it. Addressing
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: that kind of criticism just seemed pointless to me.
• 43:43
  Speaker 11: The heroin thing did set up the fact that she
• 43:45
  Speaker 11: had died and been brought back to life. It actually
• 43:50
  Speaker 11: does fit in in a number of ways. It also
• 43:51
  Speaker 11: explains her crazy appearance and I mean, it takes them
• 43:54
  Speaker 11: a really long time to figure out that she's actually possessed. Like,
• 43:57
  Speaker 11: they think it's the withdrawal symptoms for so long.
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: Pasty and sweaty.
• 44:01
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: That's my favorite part.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And especially to convince her brother.
• 44:03
  Speaker 18: Like, you know, it took him a really long time
• 44:06
  Speaker 18: to finally admit that it wasn't just the withdrawal that,
• 44:10
  Speaker 18: you know, being the reason that she was acting the
• 44:12
  Speaker 18: way she was.
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: That really is my favorite part of this version of it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing. Why do they feel the need
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: to have this slow... possession where it's just like someone
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: starts to act funny it's like what's wrong with me
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: why couldn't she be instantly possessed like in the original
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: why couldn't it be that kind of dead eye like
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: boom you're a deep like that could have been fun
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: you know i mean they had to have this realistic
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: not even sam raimi dead eyes like it was the
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: sense of like trying to be this exorcist like you
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: know extra you know like you know last exorcism or
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: whatever like they start to act funny and then they
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: slowly become this possessed person and it's like that's not
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: really evil dead that's like That's trying to be this...
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know more of a... Not subtle, but it's
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: going this... Like an exorcist route. That doesn't really work.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: The sense of Sam Raimi's deadites was not in the
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: movie at all. I mean, that's fine since I know
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: it's not Sam Raimi's movie. But it just made me
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: realize how much that aspect is crucial to an Evil
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Dead movie. Because it was lacking that.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: And also.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, the fact that a lot of the movie's
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: focus was on... It made me think to the scene
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: in The Evil Dead 1 that really made... People think
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: of it as this movie where you have to hide
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: your eyes. It was the scene where the pencil stabbing
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: in the Achilles heel. That kind of really... I feel
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: like this director saw that scene. The movie was really
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: drawn to that scene. He's like, that's what my movie's
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: going to be. It's just a bunch of that. Like
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: a bunch of people getting hit with nail guns. People
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: getting beat. It's really just like, ah, with just needles.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: It's not going to be really about demonic possession. It's
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: not going to be about devils or witches. I don't
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: care about that stuff. I care about the fucking nail
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: in the arm and stuff. And that's just what the
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: movie felt like to me. And I just felt like
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: it just focused on that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: The drug aspect is actually my favorite part of this version.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: I think it was. Yeah, I think it was. And
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: I think because it just gives it could have gone
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: in an interesting direction. Like I thought it could have really.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I like that they're doing this.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: But the fact that it didn't pay off for me
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: like they didn't.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe like maybe if there was a shot
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: at the end where she's just. I mean, I guess
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: you just assume she's just done with heroin forever. I
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: don't know how you finish that plot line. I'm pretty
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: sure that's when you start doing heroin.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I would go straight back to it. I'm like, yeah.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: For me, it's like if you're possessed by a demon,
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: you don't really worry about the detox anymore. You've got
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: bigger problems on your hands. So for me, that wasn't
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: even an issue that it went away. To me, there
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: was a much bigger issue that came about. But what
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: I thought was like, kind of amazing the way they
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: put it in there was the fact that it gave
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: them this way to make the plot escalate and to
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: make everything get worse and worse and worse without actually
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: going what the hell's going on like you didn't have
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: to ask that question of is this supernatural because it
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: like the horrible things that go on during drug use
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: and detox and all of this are so evil in
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: and of themselves that like that is the evil. And
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: they're buying into all of that, that they're like, okay,
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: she really looks this bad because of that. She's throwing
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: herself into walls because of that. She's saying these things
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: because she's coming off the drugs. And like, it lets
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: it escalate well into the movie where normally you'd have
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: to have this stupid conversation of like, why is she
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: doing this? And it doesn't force you to do that.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: It lets it slowly sort of escalate to the point where, okay,
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: now she's so far gone. She is, yeah, I mean,
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: There's nothing you can do at that point. She's already
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: killing people by the time they realize, oh wait, she's
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: not on drugs anymore. That was my favorite part, was
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: the fact that it just sort of let it progress
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: that way. That you didn't have to play that horror movie,
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: something's going on thing.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: And I know a lot of my critics, most of
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: my problems with it have been because just me comparing
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: it to the original, but... as a movie on its own,
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: like it, like I said, it does like work. It's bad.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: It's definitely better than like most of the really, really
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: bad horror remakes that we've had in the last couple
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: of years. That's, that's for sure. But decade or more,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: it just, it just never really like, I thought that
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: it was going to have this like really amazing, crazy,
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: just bat shit. Like we were going to see some
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: really wild, like demonic monsters or something was going to
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: happen in the final act. That's kind of the sense
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: I was like hoping for. Like, this movie was going
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: to go into places you wouldn't expect. And it never
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: really went to that next level. Like, you know, the
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: final scene where like the, the, the demon person is
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: summoned up from under the ground, like, Oh shit, here's
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: going to be this crazy, like, you know, Mott skeleton
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: or some kind of crazy, like demonic thing that's going
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: to attack her. And, you know, it's going to get
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: really scary or really, you know, nuts, but, It was
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: just this, I thought like, is that just one of
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: the possessed friends? Who is, it just looked like a
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: person like came out of the ground. It was just
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: like an Amazon. It was just like, yeah, it was like,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: it was like something out of the ring. I was like,
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: that was kind of underwhelming. I was like, okay. And
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: the blood rain was cool. Like I liked that a lot,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: but it just, at that point it became clear to me,
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: like by the end, I was like, this movie is
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: not about demonic possession. It's about closeups of people like
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: having their arms and hands torn off and stuff, which
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: was only a small kind of really when you think
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: about it, that was only a small aspect of the
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: original films.
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, that is a lot of this movie. It
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: does become sort of a focus is each person kind
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: of gets the most gruesome way to go out. But
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: isn't that horror movies? Like, isn't that what almost all
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: of them have become at this point? Is like, what
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: new way can we find to kill somebody?
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: A better two-word title for this movie instead of Evil
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Dead would just have been self-mutilation. I mean, it's more accurate.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: The people who get possessed aren't really dead, so it's
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: not like they're zombies. So that's not even... But that's
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: true of the original. I don't know. I mean, it's...
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Just the focus was, for me as a person, it
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: just felt like the focus was on all the wrong things,
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: I guess, is the best way for me to sum.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I kind of think, too, because if we're talking
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: about the remake, because of the cult that has built
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: up around these movies, if the original version of Evil
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Dead came out today exactly as how it was made
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: in the early 80s, I think the majority of the
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: people sitting at this table, myself.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Included, probably would be like, what is this piece of shit? Exactly.
• 50:36
  Speaker 11: Well, of course.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: So, you know, for my, for, for just dumb mindless entertainment,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I, I enjoyed the movie. I, yeah.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: But you could say the same thing about any like
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: old classic movie that, you know, you know what I mean? Cause,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: cause it's the time, you know, with the, just the
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: technology and the, what movies have been made up until
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: that point, you know, um, also the reason you if
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: we were to see the original evil dead now we
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: would think it'd be all because we'd be like we've
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: seen this before right when that came out it hadn't
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: been done before so it's a lot of it a
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: lot of you know you have to give credit to
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: the you know a movie that breaks ground you know
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: does something new and you know the first evil dead
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: was really audacious in terms of just how visceral and
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: crazy it was for a whole like most horror movies
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: just really i mean they didn't dare to just have
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: that straight up kind of just visceral violence like that
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: kind of in your face right sensibility up until that
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: point and that's why it was so awesome but i
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: mean yeah i mean as i guess yeah and this
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: movie is it does is a good kind of like
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: b movie gore fest you know that for that it
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: is definitely a quote-unquote gore fest for sure.
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: But it is it just wasn't it it.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: I say this like I'm this rabid Evil Dead fan.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: People are like, does it earn the title of Evil Dead?
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: But if I had to say so, it doesn't quite...
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: It just wasn't quite an Evil Dead movie. It was
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: more of the self-mutilation kind of torture. It wasn't quite
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: torture porn. It wasn't on that level, which I hate.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: It didn't go there, but it teased with that too much.
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: I like what it... Did? It's one of those I
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: think it does kind of work as the Gorefest thing,
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: and as new remakes go, it's definitely more solid than
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: most of the other things that have come out that
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: are just bad knockoff versions using the title of the
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: previous ones. But I think it doesn't do what that
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: first one did. I think when I saw the first
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: Evil Dead, I was not prepared for it. And I
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: think that's why I still... hold that one in a
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: whole different area than the other two. The other two
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: are silly and, and I like them a lot, but
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: they're not the same thing. Like the first evil dead
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: to me is actually legitimately creepy. Like it is, it's
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: scary in a way that I hadn't seen at that point.
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: And it does things that I, I don't know. It
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: was one of those things that I will still to
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: this day list that at the top of my horror
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: movie list and not for schlockiness and not for, you know,
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: fun silliness. just for being creepy, for it legitimately being creepy.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, something about when the budget's lower and just kind
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: of a crappy camera or whatever that films the woods,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: you feel more like you're in the woods in those
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: kinds of movies than a higher production movie like this.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: You don't get a sense of you really being lost
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: in the woods like you do with, say, the original
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Evil Dead or the Blair Witch Project. And that sense
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: of atmosphere goes a long way. The original really did
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: have that kind of... cold sense of like just cold
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: atmosphere that you're just out in these dark woods by
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: yourself and that was another thing about the original evil
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: dead that really worked that i didn't really i just
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: now kind of thought up but just the sense of
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: darkness like no one really went out in the woods
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: at night in this one they kind of stayed in
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: the cabin i just felt like i haven't seen the
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: original in a while i didn't watch it but uh
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: before i saw this one but i felt like there
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: were more I think there were more scenes where they
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: were just wandering out in the woods in the original.
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: That was really scary. And in the second.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: At night. Not during the day. There were a lot of, like,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: wood scenes during the day in this one. Like, where
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: there's a bunch of fog and stuff. But as far as, like,
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: night wood scenes where you just can't see shit, you know? Like, it's, like, realistic. Like,
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: there's no moonlight. That's just scary.
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: That's true. There isn't. And I did think that. That
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: for something that built itself so much on the evil
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: in the woods, we get the very... Like, that's sort
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: of her initial thing is, like, that she sort of gets...
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: attacked in the woods, which they recreate that scene. But
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: other than that, they really don't go back out in there.
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: They go to the woodshed and that's about it. It's
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: like right in front of the cabin as far as
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: they go after that. So they really do kind of
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: lose that lost in the woods and the woods itself
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: is evil and that the presence in the woods is
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: part of what the evil is and what is attacking
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: them and what is destroying them as it goes on.
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: You really don't get that sense in this one.
• 55:03
  Speaker 18: But.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: I think there's still a lot of stuff that it
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: does relatively well. And I think it also introduces things. Like, again,
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: I think the drug thing is a new aspect that
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: kind of needed to be there. The other one is
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: I like that at one point they question the evil
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: as a virus. So in a world where we are
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: nothing but overrun with outbreak movies and zombie movies where
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: everything is sort of put in that context now, it's like,
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: it almost seems rational for a second. You're like, well, wait, okay.
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: There was blood here. Like you actually do start doing
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: the math and going, is that plausible?
• 55:40
  Speaker 15: Hold on.
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: So, I mean, it's not, but it.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: Is kind of interesting.
• 55:44
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: Like this one was kind of like, it was like
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: the sense the evil was more in like a medical sense.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Like it was this virus that was spread around the
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: cabin and like they all caught it. Like in the original,
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: it was kind of like the book was this, was
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: the heart of evil. Like you had to destroy the
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: book to destroy everything. And, This one, it wasn't so
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: much the case, but that was kind of interesting because
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: it just felt more like evil was a disease that
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: everyone caught. Like she got bit in the hand.
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: It really did sort of follow that.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: I like that that was interesting. That was a new
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: way to kind of do that.
• 56:18
  Speaker 11: I have a plot question because I didn't fully understand
• 56:23
  Speaker 11: the five souls, and I'm not awesome at math, but
• 56:27
  Speaker 11: I can count to five. Okay.
• 56:29
  Speaker 15: The dog.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Well, yes, but.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: The dog, David. That was my.
• 56:34
  Speaker 11: I thought about the dog.
• 56:35
  Speaker 14: Okay, sorry.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I won't interrupt you. The registered nurse, Eric, and then
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: David's girlfriend. So that makes five.
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: I wasn't even counting the dog. Good question.
• 56:46
  Speaker 11: So that's what I thought when I walked out. I
• 56:48
  Speaker 11: was like, well, there was the dog. But then all
• 56:50
  Speaker 11: of the other ones come back. Why wasn't there like
• 56:52
  Speaker 11: an evil dog that came back?
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did question that too. It's where did he go?
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Because you see, we've just given away a lot of
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the movie right now.
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: They should have already seen it.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: It's their own fault. He doesn't have as much fun
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: with the dog. He's like, ah, this is lame. You
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: see the dog dying.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: And then that's it. He's never resurrected. I think David
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: may have buried him, or at least they alluded to that,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: See, I wasn't even counting the dog. And David kills himself. Well,
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: not that I don't think dogs have souls, because I do.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: They all go to heaven.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: That's right. But I wasn't even counting that. I was
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: counting her as the last body, because she dies.
• 57:34
  Speaker 11: But then she doesn't.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: He brings her back to life. It doesn't mean she
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: didn't die.
• 57:39
  Speaker 11: But she still has her soul.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: She can talk still.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: He doesn't have her soul.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: Does she? Does she?
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: But I don't understand.
• 57:45
  Speaker 11: I mean, David killed himself.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: So why?
• 57:48
  Speaker 11: I mean, just if anybody in the world dies, five people,
• 57:51
  Speaker 11: then I get to come back up?
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: It just didn't make sense to me.
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: I thought it was silly.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. I think he, because he was
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: attacked at the end of the movie, basically.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: And, I mean, yeah, it's a bit of a stretch because,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: you know, you would have had to assume that he was,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: at some point, he was dying with all the, you know,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: the nails that were in him. What else happened to
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: that poor bastard?
• 58:12
  Speaker 11: Got stabbed in the neck.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Everybody in that movie, you know, except for the nurse,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: she was the only one who had a pretty clean death.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't understand. Her death was horrible.
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: Her death was horrible. Sort of quick.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: But, you know, you've got people chopping their arms off with,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: you know, the electric carver. You know, you've got all
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: this stuff going on.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: I gave her a sedative, so she should be up
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: for a couple of hours. We should have left when
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: Mia wanted to.
• 58:43
  Speaker 15: Baby, please. Okay, let's not lose our heads.
• 58:46
  Speaker 11: Okay?
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: With any luck, it'll stop raining in a couple of hours.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: And we'll be able to cross the creek in the
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: morning and we'll take her to a hospital.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Mia?
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Mia?
• 58:53
  Speaker 11: Mia?
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: Mia, put the gun down.
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: Mia?
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: Mia, put the gun down. Put the gun down, please.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: I'll die!
• 59:34
  Speaker 14: You are all going to die tonight. I don't know.
• 59:36
  Speaker 11: I felt like the movie was trying so hard to
• 59:39
  Speaker 11: be serious, but then when it was shitty, it would
• 59:43
  Speaker 11: just be like, well, this is campy. We're evil dead.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it tried to go the campy route in random scenes,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: and it didn't really get laughs. Scenes like these one-liners,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: I was supposed to have laughs. Where Mia gets possessed
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: and she says some pretty crazy shit. I thought it
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: was funny. I laughed, but at the same time it
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: was kind of out of place with the tone of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: everything before it.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I thought the funniest shot in the movie, and I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: think it was supposed to be funny. No, the funniest
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: shot that nobody in the theater laughed at at all.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I chuckled a little. he's trying to, David's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: trying to leave. He gets to the bridge. It's washed out.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: And clearly right there in the foreground is that sign
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: that says danger, high water. And to me, I thought
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: it was brilliant, but I think it just kind of
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: passed over.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: That is really funny. I didn't, I didn't catch that.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: If I had to catch, I would have, yeah, that
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: would have been good. I would have laughed. And yeah,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: there was just, yeah, I felt the same way too.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: Like I was laughing at the parts that no one,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: like it was just little stuff. Like, It's just the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: fact that they kept using duct tape. By the third time,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: they kept using duct tape. That made me laugh, too.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: That made me laugh.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: I do that. I tape myself back together all the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: damn time.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: Here's what it was. He was like, here, hold this.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 18: He has this gaping wound in his chest, probably in
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 18: his aorta.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: He's like, here, hold this.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: It was just funny that he kept making him do it.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: His first command before asking for anything else, he's trying
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: to stop the wind. He's like, give this man some sugar.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: It's like, what?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: Did anyone else catch that? He needs water. He needs
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: water and sugar. Yeah, I was wondering.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: He said, like, get him some sugar.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, okay.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 18: Because he's obviously part hummingbird.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: But that's all I can think of is hummingbird food.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: But yeah.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 11: Yeah, like at the end where the demon's coming after
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 11: her and she goes into the shed and she has
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 11: to fill up the chainsaw with the gasoline. And the demon,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 11: I guess, is just waiting in the tunnel for.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: Her to get done filling it.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 11: And it's just like those moments are so lazy. It
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 11: was just like, really? I don't know.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Well, the demon was going to give her a sporting chance.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: It's like, come on. Okay, she's going for the chainsaw.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: Let's see what she does.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: There were a couple of things I thought were... a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: bit obvious. Like they had the trap door in the, uh,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: in the shed that led to the tunnel where, you know,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: they find the dog.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: Which again, why would that really be there?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't understand why we just, we get that it's there,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: but yeah, but I don't know. I think that's, it's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: one of those things you're going in and you already
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: kind of know those key moments that they almost have
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: to work in or people are going to complain. Um,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, the one thing I'll give
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: them credit for is they don't do it by the book.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: They find a way to hit those moments, but do
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: it kind of differently. They change it up just enough
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: that you're like, okay, well, that's not what I thought
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: was coming, and then they'll still find a way to
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: do it. That's more credit than I expected going in
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: with a remake like this.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 11: I just don't think... It seems like the only time
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 11: you should ever remake a film is if it's a
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 11: good film that has plot points that don't work that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 11: you can correct. And I feel like they, instead of
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 11: doing that, just made more complicated plot points that didn't work.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 11: I mean, the actual mythology of the thing didn't work
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 11: in its own universe. I just didn't see the point.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Done.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I definitely agree. I don't think this was a movie
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: that needed to be remade. But given the source material and, again,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: the way it's been built up over the years, I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: think they did a decent job at it.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: I think they did as best that they could do,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: but it's one of those... There's so much apologizing for
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: this movie. Really, I felt bad for the guy because
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: I think visually it looks good and they did great
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: special effects, but think how much the deck is stacked
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: against you going into this. Not only are there three
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: movies that are huge, just in three movies they built
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: a franchise that is as big as damn near any
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: franchise out there. And on top of that, then you
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: get that fan expectations going in. So you've got that
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: stacked against you. Then you've got, like, the fact that
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: the movies themselves change within the trilogy. Like, they become
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: an out-and-out comedy as they go on. So now you're like, okay, wait,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: do I stick with this? Or do I have to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: do the comedy or are they going to get mad?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: And then on top of that, they make a musical
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: out of your fucking story that, like... is now equally
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: as popular and touring the country that they're singing songs
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: about it and they're throwing blood all over the audience
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: and it's all a joke. And then, as if that
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: all wasn't enough, in the last couple of years, they
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: make a movie that the entire point is to completely
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: just dissect and take apart the basics of this story.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: That everything is supposed to be decoded by this movie
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: that sets everything up almost exactly as the movie you
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: now have to make. That guy was screwed going in.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: I'm just like, how could you make... What do you
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: do with that story after all of that has come
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: before you other than don't make this movie?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if I were a screenwriter or director
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: and were handed this assignment, I would probably have a
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: nervous breakdown.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much to live up to there.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: And again, just the fact that they just did Cabin
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: in the Woods and the entire purpose of that is
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: setting up this same scenario and then... taking a very
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: specific look at it, really trying to break it down.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 6: And now you're not supposed to do that. You're just
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 6: supposed to go, and then it gets scary. I mean,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: you can't take that because they already did that. So
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: you can't, all you have to do is be sort
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: of earnest about it and go, well, she's possessed. Like,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Like I just give him credit for
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: the fact that he makes it kind of work as
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: best as he could. It's not great, but it's pretty
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: solid for what it is to me. And if we're
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: going into the gore fest and, They tried to be
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: completely CG-free. I appreciated that possibly more than anything in
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: the movie.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: Well, okay, here's the thing. I do appreciate that as well.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: I was very impressed with how everything was practical. But
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: I think there is a little bit of over-appraisal in
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: this whole it's CGI-free because there's plenty of horror movies
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: out right now that not all horror movies are strictly
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: using CGI blood. I remember the real shitty Texas Chainsaw
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: remake that came out. That didn't have any CGI stuff
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: in it. Neither did the sequel... Or the remake of
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: Hills Have Eyes. It's not like it's this new thing
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: that they're using real blood. So I didn't know why
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: they were saying this movie was so great for that.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, a lot of the smaller budget stuff, they
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: build themselves on that. Well, no, not even that. A
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: lot of the guys at conventions, everybody in that area
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: hates CGI. So the really indie directors... Are using real blood.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: In practical effects. I feel like when I was reading
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: all the reviews, they were like, oh, practical, it's crazy.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: I was thinking, okay, if you're that impressed by practical effects,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: this movie must be dead alive gore. It must be
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: this showy, operatic.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: Just like bloodbath but it wasn't really that it was
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: moments i feel like it was maybe i mean it
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: wasn't it didn't it wasn't cartoony enough for me to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: be like fun dead alive gory it was.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: More she vomited on the nurse was.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 19: That was the one moment that was actually the one
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 19: moment where i was like okay i saw because i
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 19: saw that in the trailer i was like oh wow
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 19: this could be pretty crazy and then it turned out
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 19: to be just the kind of grimy kind of self-mutilation
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 19: kind of deal Which.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: I kind of like just because, again, the way that
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: the evil was, it was using them against themselves.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: It didn't even have to do the work half the time.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: But the chainsaw through the mouth was awesome, I'll say that.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, that was crazy.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: That was a great finale. Again, I like the nurse thing.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: I think it's horrible, but it's one of those that
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: that effect was good and just the setup of her.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: sitting there doing that to herself as he comes over
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: is kind of creepy it was one of the more
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: creepy moments in the movie.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah and what made that also that shot of the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: chainsaw through the mouth like bet like way better than
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: what they like they how they would have done it
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: say in the like i keep saying that takes a
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: chance on remake but that's the only you know any
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: of the horror remakes that maybe would have done that
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: also it's like they made it a wide shot like
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: they took it to its most extreme so you saw
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: like The body just flailing back and forth. You weren't
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: missing anything. You saw the profile view. The literal, this
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: chainsaw is going through this body. It just felt kind
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: of humorous the way they did that. I liked the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: way that Fede shot that.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Particularly gorse the first couple seconds of that shot i
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: was like what the hell just happened and then then
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: it kind of sinks in and you're like wow you
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: know wow that's it was it was an awesome kill
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: don't see very often.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: It might i mean i it still might i mean
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: it could be the you know the best kill for
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: 2013 i would definitely i would put it on my
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: list it was pretty crazy Well, I think.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: Again, I think just the way that he does the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: gore is pretty good. But even just the way that
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: it looks, like it's a very specific thing. Like you
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: couldn't get more wood grain in a movie.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: It is just wood on wood. Like it is almost
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: like perverse how much they invest them. in the wood
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: and the fact that they're in this cabin and everything,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: like just the way that it's, everything looked about it was,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, like it's not by accident. Like he went
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: out of his way to give it this very specific look.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: And I think it, it works because it's, it's almost
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: obvious that it's, it's made to look that way.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: I will say it did seem like there were a
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: lot more rooms.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: The cabin was definitely bigger on the inside than it
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: was on the exterior.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: The old one was like that too.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: The old one definitely had all these back rooms. I
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: was like, what? It seems like when you go look
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: at that cabin, it should just be that one room
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: that they walked through. That's it.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: Which is kind of the fun of it.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: The fact that, especially once you get into the cabin
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: in the woods, that it really goes all.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: A lot of haunted house movies are like that too.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: I think that's just a thing.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: And they also kind of put in a couple places,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: you know, props in the background that were like a
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: nod to the original series, which normally I kind of
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: think is kind of, kind of silly, kind of cheesy,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: but they're subtle. I like, but they were, they were
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: pretty subtle.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: And there were a few, there were a couple of.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Times where they'd show the same thing four or five
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: times and finally be like, Oh yeah, yeah, that was
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: so I did like that.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: But it also works in that, you mentioned there is
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: a mythology to it, and it almost uses that to
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: its advantage when setting things up. You know something's coming.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: Because you have so much built into this history with
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: the series that when you see the shotgun sitting there,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: you're like, well, there you go. You already have things
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: going through your mind. Shotgun, chainsaw.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 14: Shotgun, chainsaw.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: You've already got all of this. But even like some
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: of the other stuff, just like as it goes along,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: it's got such a mythology built into this series that
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: in one way I think you're right that it doesn't
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: do it the same deadite way it did the first time.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: But it does it in a way that, again, for
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: me almost delivers in a way that's different. And maybe
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 6: he is taking it in a different direction and maybe
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: obviously they're setting it up to do another one. And
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: it did pretty well this weekend, so they're probably going
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: to get greenlit to do another one. So I would
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: be interested to see if he continues and does his
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: own thing in another movie, assuming they give it to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: him again. Or, I don't know, if it just becomes
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: another hacky series and just gets a bad sequel.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, they definitely really are. I mean, from the ending,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: it just seemed just perfectly clear to me. They're making
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: her into the new Ash. I mean, they severed her hand.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: They had the close-up like, okay, she has the chainsaw.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: She doesn't have a hand anymore. Evil Dead 2, she's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: going to be like the new Ash, and that was
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: pretty cool. So despite my disappointment in this one, I
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: am kind of excited to see where they take that.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 18: It's kind of funny because I was thinking the same thing.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 18: I was like, okay, so yeah, I wasn't too crazy
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 18: about this one, but I did think that was really
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 18: cool that they made her the new Ash. So it'll
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 18: be interesting.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: Which I thought that's what they were doing when they
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: started setting up the cast. I thought they were just
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: recasting Ash from the beginning. Right. Changing him to female,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: making it a very different setup so they didn't have
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: to follow the old plot very closely. But they kind
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: of just switched it up on you. That David's the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 6: Ash through most of the movie and then she comes
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: back and becomes Ash.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: She was, honestly, she was the character I least expected
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: to survive the movie. Even at the end where it
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: looks like, well, maybe, you know. And for a second there,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I thought, okay, this is going to get silly because
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: there's no chance of her coming back. But I do
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: feel like in the confines of what they were doing,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: they did make that work. They made it, I don't
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: want to say believable, but somewhat plausible.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: They set it up plot-wise. They were like, just don't
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: ever leave me. And they really did. If they hadn't
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: put that in there, it might have seemed random. But
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: it's like, once again, no, this was all orchestrated. It's
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 6: very obvious he's got to do that to make this
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: kind of work. And then to have her take, you know,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: to balance out the big finale there. So it kind
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: of had to end that way.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Listen, you've got to get out of those clothes.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: You have to get me out of here. Yeah, look,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: nobody said this was going to be easy.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: You don't understand.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: There was something in the woods, David.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 11: David.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know and i'm just so impressed with her
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: like i again it's i don't watch much sitcom wise
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: but i've bothered to start watching that because she's so
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: good on her cheesy sitcom and it's pretty good actually
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: as sitcoms go but um what the hell is the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: name of that thing suburgatory yeah suburgatory and um i
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: mean she's she kind of makes it like I think
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: that's the only reason it works. Everybody else on the show,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: even the dad, they're all decent, but I think it
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: would just be sort of run-of-the-mill, and she sort of
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: elevates that. But again, that's a very sitcom world. So
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: when she got cast in this, I was like, what
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: the hell are they doing? I like her, but that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: seems like miscasting. I totally buy her in the beginning
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: as the messed-up drug girl. I like her as the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: sort of medium-level shit's going wrong, and I'm going to
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: screw everybody over just to get out of here. And
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: by the time she's evil, she is creepy as hell. She, again,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: as the rest of the cast, you can kind of
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 6: take them or leave them, but she kind of proved
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: herself for me. I think she's really good in this.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: What I liked about her performance was she was creepy
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: with minimal makeup. I mean, yeah, they made her dirty.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: They darked out her teeth, put contacts in her. But
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: her performance still came through as she was just terrifying.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: You know, she was... Just something you wouldn't want to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: run into, basically.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: Which is how that first one was. That was one
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: of the creepiest things in that first movie was the
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: whole cellar setup and her being trapped there and still
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: talking to them. That's what made that so creepy, I think.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: The closest thing they get to this, I guess, is
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: her performance. I think that's probably the best they get
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: as far as being as creepy as they tried to
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: do the first time around. I agree.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 11: I liked her performance. I'm trying to say something nice
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 11: about every movie now, and I really liked her performance
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 11: a lot. The scene where she's telling her brother and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 11: she's sitting on the bottom of the bunk bed, I mean,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 11: she's scary as hell in that. I didn't really care
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 11: about the Diablo Cody girl power gender reversal thing at
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 11: the end. It kind of made me roll my eyes.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 11: But if anybody is going to survive this cast and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 11: be in the next film, I am glad it's her
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 11: because she actually could act.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's kind of why I was hoping that plan
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: would work of his.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: Mostly because that means she'll come back. I don't think
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: Diablo Cody... I don't think she wrote the... I think
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: she just punched up. I don't think she had the
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: decision to go in this direction with how the female... Yeah,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: I would have been literal. Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's what
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: attracted her. In a way, at first I thought I
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: didn't sense very much Diablo Cody in the movie. But
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: now thinking about it, maybe... Like, maybe that line, like,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: I can maybe... It kind of makes sense, because I
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: saw Jennifer's Body, and it was bad, but... I loved
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: that movie. It was interesting. I wanted to hate it.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 11: That was one of those movies I was like, oh,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 11: my God, I'm going to hate this.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: I'm going to enjoy hating it.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: I was like, no, this.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: Is actually really good.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: I might have to watch it again. But after thinking
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: about it, I was like, yeah, you know, I can see, like,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: the same person did Jennifer's Body. Like, I can see her...
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: I can kind of see her... her presence shining through
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: moments in this movie. It did have a little bit
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: of Diablo Cody. I can't really say how, but I
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: kind of feel it now, the more I think about it.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that she had anything to do
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: with it, and knowing that now, I still don't, I
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: didn't really pick up on that a whole lot.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: It doesn't feel like her.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 7: Stuff, most of it.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 11: I guess the lead actor was on The United States
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 11: of Terror, so I don't know if, she brought him
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 11: in or he, I don't know what the situation is,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 11: but that seemed unlikely casting too.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: He was so bad.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 9: I mean, he really, he's.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: Just too weak to carry that movie. And he becomes
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: the main character through most of it.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: And I wish I get more, you know, hearing it to,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: you know, this, guy with the chiseled chin and.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: I really wasn't again that i was keeping pretty separate
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: i was trying to keep because you can't be bruce
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 6: campbell you just can't you know so it's like i
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: was trying to look at it very separate and almost
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: more of like the way that they do movies now
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: with all the other horror remakes and like i'm like
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: no he's he's still just not really a strong enough
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: character to carry this.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Movie i don't think he was bad i just think
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: his performance was really really uneven yeah because the times
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: where he seemed To show compassion towards his sister, I
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: thought he did great. But when he had these moments
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: where he had to stand up and take charge, he
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: just kind of fell flat.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: See, that's the thing. I didn't dislike him overall. I
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: think maybe in other stuff he might be okay. I
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: just didn't think he carried this. Again, when you've got
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: none of them there, I really could have carried the
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: whole group. Yeah, that's a weird group of people.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: The girlfriend was a waste of space.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: She really was.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: Totally. I kind of.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 11: I felt like that was actually an acting choice that
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 11: she made because she was so terrible at the beginning
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 11: and then she was actually really kind of great once
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 11: she got to like ham it up and then I
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 11: was like, oh, she knew she was in a campy
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 11: horror film and she was going to be the disposable
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 11: blonde girlfriend and then... I didn't hate her also.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: You remember too.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 15: She was kidding.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: She was.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: I think she might have had the best line in
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: the movie where she just turns around, her arms fall out.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: She's like, I feel much better now. That was so great.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I definitely, yeah, the brother, I wish, I
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: wish they kept him as a weaker, like maybe a
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: more realistic, like, you know, if this, if they just
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: made him a weaker character who would have buckled under
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: all this pressure because he's already dealing with all this
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: whole baggage with you know his sister and her heroine
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: and like their mom and like he probably in real
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: life that kind of guy he probably would just kind
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: of he'd be like i can't handle this shit i
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: can't be the one who i can't immediately be the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: jock who has to take charge in these moments like
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: that I wish they kind of cut out that kind
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: of sense of the character and maybe given it to
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: the other guy with the beard or something because he
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: was really good.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: I at least bought that guy. That guy was awesome.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: He seemed right at home in that role.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: But I like how he opens the book and it
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: says right on there, leave this book alone.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: He's like, eh, anyway.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 11: Nope.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: I think I will not. Because we need to have
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: a movie.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: And I did like that he finally owned up to
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: the fact that, hey guys, I screwed this.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 15: Up for everybody.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't the same where they're like, did you
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: read from the book? He's like, no. He just went
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: to them and was like, look, I read this book.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: And even then, with everything that was going on, and
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: he was like, this is my fault. I read from
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: this book.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: They're all just.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Kind of like, no.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: I don't think that's it.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: It wasn't that I outright hated the movie. It was
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: just that I was bored a lot.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: Is it because you'd seen it before in other movies?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 6: I think so.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: I think that's what it was.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 18: And I was just like, okay, it was a gore fest,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 18: but even that just seemed boring to me. And I
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 18: was just like, okay, what does that say about me
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 18: as a person and the kind of things that I
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 18: like to watch? Because I don't feel like I watch
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 18: a lot of gory movies, but I think it's just
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 18: so expected. I wasn't surprised by anything. And, you know,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 18: I didn't watch, you know, the first Evil Dead, you know,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 18: before going into it because I did want to, you know,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 18: come at it from, you know, just like its own
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 18: thing and I didn't want to compare it too much.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: But I don't know.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 18: I just, I was just bored, you know, and I
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 18: was just waiting for something good to happen and it
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 18: just never did. Like I said, I didn't outright hate it.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: I just didn't necessarily like it.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: So in a way that's almost playing into exactly the
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: reason that these keep getting made though. Just the idea of,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: of I've seen this before is all they're waiting for
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: is the new batch of kids who haven't seen it
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: and aren't going to know the difference. And obviously it
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 6: worked cause it made a hell of a lot of money.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: Which for those group of people seeing, uh, some guy
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: at the end of credits, look at them and say groovy.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: They'll be like, who the fuck was that about? Can
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: you imagine how weird that will be for like people
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: who see that and have no idea like who Ash
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: or what the, They just go into this thing and
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: it's a horror movie and that just shows up at
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: the end. I think that's funny just because they have
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: no idea what that's about.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: I love Burn Notice.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, I do too. I have to say, if I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: was a 19, 20-year-old kid, had never seen the original
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: Evil Dead, and this came out, and I'd gone to
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: see it and then found out about it, it would
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: at least make me search out the original.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good. I think it's good.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: Enough to do that.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 11: I don't know. I was sitting in front of these
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 11: people that were discussing these 19-year-old kids that I assume
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 11: hadn't seen the original, and the girl turned to her boyfriend,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 11: and she's like, this really sucks.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: And he was like, yeah.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 11: So I just didn't think it was a good movie. Like,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 11: completely divorced from the original. I just didn't think that
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 11: it had any merit on its own. There were plot holes.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 11: It was tedious. I just didn't... There was nothing enjoyable
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 11: about it for me. But to be fair, I'm not
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 11: a gore person, so maybe if that was my bag,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 11: I'd be all about this.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: I just don't think it's that weak, really. I don't
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: think it's great. I don't think it's perfect by any means.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: But it definitely, compared to a lot of other bad
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 6: mainstream studio-backed horror movies, it's pretty solid.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 11: Oh, this is such a depressing metric. I don't want
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 11: that to be what.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: This is about. But that's what you have to go.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 11: Compared to all the other shit out there, it's not terrible.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: If you watch a lot of movies, that's the math
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: you have to do, really.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: I argue that it was a lot better than the
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Friday the 13th remake.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: That's not saying too much.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: Again, the original Friday the 13th 2, not really that
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: good of a movie either, but it has a cult
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: built up around it.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: Same thing with the Nightmare on Elm Street. I have
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: huge problems with that remake. They missed the point Of
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 6: not just that movie they're remaking, but horror in general.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: They kind of missed the point. I mean, it can
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: go really bad when they try to do this.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: I think these movies, to be well-made, they can only
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: be directed by the person who thought up the concept.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: Not Friday the 13th needs to be directed by the
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: guy who just thought up the idea of this guy
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: in a sweater who kills you. Because he thought it up.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: It can't be an imitation of that. Otherwise, it'll just
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: be like this... this music video imitation thing that's never
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: going to be you know i mean like i think
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: this fede alvarez really did he was passionate about what
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: he was doing like i do think he would try
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: really hard and he was trying to make his own
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: stamp on it but at the same time because he's
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: not sam raimi he didn't come up with this wacky
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: well i mean it was wacky in the original it
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: wasn't wacky in this one but like this idea of
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: like this book possessing these people in a cabin and
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: he couldn't be as imaginative with it, no matter how
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: hard he tried. I don't think he could reach that level.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: Are you thinking that you can't do that with a
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: movie in general? Like, you just can't remake it?
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: I think there are exceptions. There's always exceptions.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 6: Because that's what I'm like.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, like.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: You can think of so many where they kind of
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: do that.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: 99% of the time, that's the reason, I think. But, like,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: you know, with something like The Fly, where the original
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: is just a bad movie, or The Thing, where it's
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: just so hokey. I mean, if you totally take your
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: own imagination to it, and you just... and it's, you know,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: I feel like if he really wanted to have this
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: version stand out, it had to be way more different
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: from the original than it was.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 6: It's not different enough to make it.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I mean, separate.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: It doesn't revolutionize things the way that evil that did
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: in my mind, like it really did sort of change
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: the game when it came along the original movie, the
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: evil that this one just seems like another one of
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: those horror movies. And that, It's watchable, it's fun, it's
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: decent for what it is, but it doesn't change the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: game like The Evil Dead did.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 11: I think he's reasonably impressive as a director. I don't
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 11: think he ever needs to write another screenplay as long
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 11: as he lives. I mean, it just wasn't a good story.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 11: And if you bring in an Oscar-winning screenwriter to punch
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 11: it up and it still sucks.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: This bad, you're... But he also had never done a
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: feature before. He had done a couple of shorts, and
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: the shorts looked pretty good.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the new.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: Director, this is his first feature film. So, I mean, really,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: to go into this much pressure and have this much
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: budget thrown at you when you've done some, you know,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: CG-filled robot movie, which was pretty good, actually, for a short. But, again,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: it's like you can– it was like four or five
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: minutes long, you know, versus trying to do an entire
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: feature film. It's– I think, you know, going into it
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: from nothing– He's pretty impressive. Again, visually, I think he's
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: got style.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: I think that was a good idea, too, because the
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: original was made by a total amateur. And I don't
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: mean that in a bad way.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: In the best way, really.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Because he had to invent things to get the shots
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: he wanted. And I don't think that was quite the
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: case with the new guy, but I still think some
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: of that spirit was... was almost there. And I think
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: it was a good idea to go with a first time,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: you know, feature director.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: And at least, I don't know, because yeah, if you
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: go with somebody very established, they're going to bring an
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: already preconceived thing that exists in their other movies where
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: this does kind of give you, he can kind of
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: do whatever he wants from this point on. And again,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: I think he could have differed it quite a bit.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: He could have changed things up even more, but for
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 6: what it is, it's still, I think it's still pretty
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: enjoyable for, for this type of movie.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Well, there were a couple of scenes where if you'd
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: seen the original, you're like, okay, I know what's going
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: to happen now. And it did happen. And then there
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: were a couple of times where it altered slightly, but
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: eventually made its way back to that, for better or worse.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: I was surprised they kept the tree thing with her.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: I was really surprised by that. I mean, that was pretty...
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: I was pushing the envelope in the 80s when you
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: could do whatever you wanted, and this one keeps it
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 6: in there, and Maybe makes it a little more.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Horrifying, actually. That was pretty intense to see. And I
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: kept thinking, okay, surely they're not going to show the
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: tree raping this girl. And then, sure enough, I'm like,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: all the way up to the last second, I was like, no,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: they're going to cut away. But it was probably a
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: little bit more intense.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: And it also, like, it.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 6: It isn't just it killing her in horrible ways. It
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: is the evil. It takes it kind of to the
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: next level where it really is like that is the
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: evil possessing her in the most horrible way possible.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: Gross or perverse or whatever. I mean, I think what
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: made this version more disturbing than the original was that
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: the tree was more intimate with her. It wasn't just this.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: In the original, the tree was just attacking her with
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: these limbs from off screen. In this one, it was
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: like this snake thing. I was just like, ah, that's nuts.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 10: Again it was a little it was slightly more realistic
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 10: was like if you can get that way about it
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 10: she at first is just sort of caught in the
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 10: limbs and the trees and like you could get that
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 10: and then it.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: I mean the other one's a big puppet tree you
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: know i mean it's a very different thing where this
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: one starts off again like a lot of this stuff
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: it starts off almost like it could happen and then
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: it takes it to another even more horrifying level so
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: i think that's what this movie does pretty well, is
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 6: it starts off at a very grounded level. Again, you
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: don't like how self-serious it was, but I think, I
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: don't think he could do it any other way. Especially
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: in this time period, like in a time when we
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: don't want silly Batman anymore. We want Nolan Batman. We
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 6: want serious Batman. It's the same thing with this. I
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: don't think they could do another comedy version. I think
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: the only way they would even let them remake it
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: is like, okay, we're going to go deadly serious this time.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: And for the most part it is. Again, it's, I guess,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 6: arguable whether or not it works for the viewer individually,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: but I don't think they would have let.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Them do anything else. I think that's why they had
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: to make a musical out of it.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: You know, because if you just did a straight play
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: like that, you would have to go serious, which wouldn't work.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Or if you tried to go silly, it wouldn't work
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  Speaker 1: until you added, until you went over the top. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't think theatrically, I don't think.
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  Speaker 4: That would have worked.
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  Speaker 6: And I definitely don't think they would have let them
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  Speaker 6: do that. I think this is the only way the
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  Speaker 6: studio would have gone with it, is be like, okay,
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  Speaker 6: none of this joking around stuff. We need it to
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  Speaker 6: be serious, like all of these horror movies. So, again,
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  Speaker 6: I'm sure that was not even on the table at
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  Speaker 6: that point.
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  Speaker 4: I do kind of miss the original. There were just these,
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  Speaker 4: Sam Raimi just had all these bags of tricks. Like,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't just the friends getting possessed and attacking them.
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  Speaker 4: It was, like, voices, you know, like, taunting him in
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  Speaker 4: the cellar. Like, the light bulb filling up with blood
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  Speaker 4: and the film projector going. Just little stuff. And, like,
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  Speaker 4: the cabin would just, like, have these loud noises, like,
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  Speaker 4: coming from all over the place. And it scared, you know.
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  Speaker 4: It just had the... It wasn't just the possessed friends.
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  Speaker 4: It was this... It was just this evil attacking from all,
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  Speaker 4: you know... around them like constantly.
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  Speaker 6: And it was his style like his visual style and
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  Speaker 6: his sense of the framing framing and placing everything like
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  Speaker 6: that i remember like the shot.
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  Speaker 4: I remember most from the movie is just when he's
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  Speaker 4: like walking across the cabin floor and it's like going
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  Speaker 4: above the beams and like the beams pass by the
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  Speaker 4: lens like just stuff like touches like that really gave
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  Speaker 4: it kind of like it gave it this identity and
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  Speaker 4: it kind of made this it didn't feel like the
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  Speaker 4: movie was this one kind of It wasn't just about
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  Speaker 4: this one thing as much. And this movie definitely focused
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  Speaker 4: mainly on the possession.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it is, yeah. The original is mostly to
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  Speaker 6: me about Sam Raimi and Sam Raimi's visual style and
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  Speaker 6: the way that he does things. And more so even
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  Speaker 6: than the Ash character. Because to me, the Ash character
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  Speaker 6: doesn't become the character that we all love until the
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  Speaker 6: second one, really. He doesn't get to be... the funny,
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  Speaker 6: quippy guy. He doesn't get the chainsaw.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't get any of that stuff. He's such a
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: wimp in the first one.
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  Speaker 6: He just is dealing with this horrible situation, and the
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 6: horrible situation is everything that Sam Raimi brings to it. Again,
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  Speaker 6: I think that movie was amazing and changed everything, and
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  Speaker 6: it was mostly Sam Raimi's doing, and this definitely doesn't
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  Speaker 6: fall into that category, but it does what it can,
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  Speaker 6: I suppose. Do we think we've rounded this thing out?
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  Speaker 1: I think we've beaten it to death.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I was maybe too harsh. I'm glad
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  Speaker 4: I supported it and I paid money to see it
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  Speaker 4: because that way I can see the French because Sam
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  Speaker 4: Raimi is supposedly still going to do the next Army
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  Speaker 4: Darkness and they're going to merge the two universes. I'm
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: interested to see how that... I want to see that happen.
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  Speaker 4: I'm optimistic. I'll definitely see the sequel to this.
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  Speaker 11: Alright.
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  Speaker 6: I guess we should wrap things up then. So... Thank
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  Speaker 6: you once again to the Dreamland Film Center for letting
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 6: us come here and put this show together. We're going
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  Speaker 6: to try to work some more stuff together with them
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: to find out what they're doing. It is at LouisvilleFilmSociety.org
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  Speaker 6: to find out what they have coming up as far
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: as film showings and other events. We will be back
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: here in the near future, including next week. Speaking of which... Otherwise,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: that about does it. We will return here next week.
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  Speaker 6: Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 4: Driving deep into the trees.
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  Speaker 16: With hot dogs, chips, and cheese.
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  Speaker 4: To make the week go quicker, we packed a ton
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: of liquor.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 17: Ryan Tropicana will not totally bananas.
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  Speaker 4: Spring break vacation is just bling bling.
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  Speaker 16: There's something in this musty air makes us want to sing.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 16: Cabin in the woods, ooh.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: Cabin in the woods, yeah. We're five college students.
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  Speaker 16: On our way to an old abandoned cabin.
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  Speaker 4: In the woods.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah!
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  Speaker 16: All my friends are here for the best spring break
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  Speaker 16: of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Away from school and from.
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  Speaker 6: S-Mart, a week way off the job. He's so cute
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: and thin And that's why I love him.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 16: This will be just like Cam But with a slutty tram.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: In a few hours, you will.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: See me doing the nasty in a tree.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 17: Stop looking to get dizzy, but fresh air makes me dizzy.
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  Speaker 6: I'm so perfect, girl.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, look, there goes a squirrel.
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  Speaker 17: I'll wake up in the woods of pure tranquility.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 9: A chance for me to rest in a nice facility.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 17: I came up to this cabin.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 9: To read and sleep and bake.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 11: Hope our headboard rattling don't keep your.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: Prude ass awake.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: Counting in the woods, ooh.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Counting in the woods, yeah.
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  Speaker 16: We're five college students on our way to an old
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 16: abandoned counting in the woods.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: This trip will be wacky fun. Seven days to snuggle
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  Speaker 4: my honey bun.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 9: A week of drinking.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: Can't be marital sex.
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  Speaker 17: And tonight I'll make some snacks out of Hershey bars
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 17: and checks.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: Listen to us now and make no mistake.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 16: We're gonna have fun cause it's spring break.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: We'll pour, we'll score, we'll fall flat on the floor.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: We'll do all this and a whole lot more.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 17: We're five college.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: Students on our.
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  Speaker 16: Way To an old abandoned cabin in the woods.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: We're five college students on our.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 16: Way To an old abandoned cabin in the woods We're
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 16: five college students on our way To an old abandoned
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 16: cabin in the woods We're five.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: College students on our way To an old abandoned cabin
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  Speaker 4: in the woods.
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  Speaker 20: I've only ever seen the first one.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen Evil Dead 2. Oh, the second one
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  Speaker 4: is worth it.
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  Speaker 6: I disagree.
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  Speaker 20: My friend and I, we were going to one night
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 20: marathon the original trilogy and then go see the movie
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 20: in time for this episode. Then he's like, hey, so
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 20: I'm going to go hang out with a girl I
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 20: like tonight. I'm like, so I watch.
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• 1:36:03
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• 1:36:07
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• 1:36:09
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  Speaker 14: Talk hard!