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What Mattered Most From Singer Songwriter Country Music's Ty Herndon · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 2: Awesome? What's that man? Man?
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing? And I've got to start it
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  Speaker 1: off with an oddball kind of question, only because I've
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  Speaker 1: been a part of the radio industry for forty six
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  Speaker 1: years and we've always learned that country music, if you
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  Speaker 1: play it backwards, you get everything back. Well, Now, in
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  Speaker 1: reading your book, I'm going if I were to read
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  Speaker 1: tie Tye's book backwards, would he get everything back?
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  Speaker 2: Man? I got it back in space? What you talked about?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, well, and especially when you've got a title like this,
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  Speaker 1: what mattered most now as a creative person. You know
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  Speaker 1: that everything matters to us. When did you learn how
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  Speaker 1: to separate that and only capture the most wow.
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  Speaker 3: In this book I'm assuming you're talking about. So I
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  Speaker 3: had no idea the journey I was going to take
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  Speaker 3: with this book. I just knew that the date great.
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  Speaker 3: David Ritz, you know, wrote Reath, the Planklin story, what
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  Speaker 3: a story, you know, the Willie Nelson story, Aerosmith, And
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  Speaker 3: I was still feeling a little bit you know, small
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  Speaker 3: in the room even meeting him. And he said, no, man,
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  Speaker 3: I saw your story People magazine. He goes that, I
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  Speaker 3: knew this was the book I had to write. So
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  Speaker 3: I had no idea the journey I was about to take.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I knew that there were I had stories
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  Speaker 3: to tell, I had rumors to set, you know, to
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  Speaker 3: set straight. But I had no idea that the excavation
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  Speaker 3: crew that I was about to invite into my life
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  Speaker 3: to dig into, to dig into spaces that were long,
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  Speaker 3: burry traumas that would never supposed to be opened, and
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  Speaker 3: how there wrote in my life and you know, being
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  Speaker 3: able to to dig that deep and and find the
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  Speaker 3: key and open those rooms that you cannot take a
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  Speaker 3: cleaning crew and man you've got to go in there yourself.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's it became, uh, it became bigger than
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  Speaker 3: me pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 2: But also the greatest journey in my life.
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  Speaker 3: So if you ask me what you know, what is
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  Speaker 3: mattered most, which is, you know, a cheesy question to ask,
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  Speaker 3: even for me, you know, the self, the self, the
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  Speaker 3: self journey that I ended up on with this to
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  Speaker 3: even become a person that that I've been pretty healed.
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  Speaker 2: I've I've done a lot of healing and work in
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  Speaker 2: my life.
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  Speaker 3: But to end up in a place where I actually
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  Speaker 3: I talk about being a preacher and a teacher in
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  Speaker 3: this that I actually have the tools to do that
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  Speaker 3: because of the journey I took.
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  Speaker 2: On this book.
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  Speaker 3: It was not a place I thought I would land,
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  Speaker 3: and I just I'm completely full of gratitude, if not
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  Speaker 3: for anything else, that people are gonna be able to
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  Speaker 3: read this book and go, damn it, I have been there,
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  Speaker 3: And okay, that's.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of an answer. How to get out
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  Speaker 2: of that?
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  Speaker 1: To heal that dude, you talked about being the preacher
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  Speaker 1: and the teacher, I've been that guy that spoke in
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  Speaker 1: these southern churches. And I'll tell you what my first
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  Speaker 1: one was in a very small church. Man. They were
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  Speaker 1: raising their hands and amen, Amen, And I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: how to handle that. I'm going, Man, that's not the
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  Speaker 1: way my church works. But if that's where you want
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  Speaker 1: to go, let's go. Let's bring it.
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  Speaker 3: Man. I grew up and my mama would stick us
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  Speaker 3: under the peu so we wouldn't get stepped on. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's how you know there were no snakes. People asked,
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  Speaker 3: who doesn't know? We were at snake people? But you know,
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  Speaker 3: this book opens up with this ten year old kid
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  Speaker 3: that was called it to be this.
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  Speaker 2: Teacher preacher, and you know, as some.
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  Speaker 3: Visiting evangelists pointing a finger at me and calling me
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  Speaker 3: in an abomination. And I didn't even know what that
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  Speaker 3: word meant, you know, And so I spent decades trying
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  Speaker 3: to outrun a shame of something I didn't understand. So
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  Speaker 3: that was trauma one, you know, and just being able
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  Speaker 3: to go that far back and be in that tabernacle.
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  Speaker 3: Because the way we write this, the way David and
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  Speaker 3: I write this, you're in the story. You're not just
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  Speaker 3: reading it, You're in the story, and you're feeling every
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  Speaker 3: bit of it.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't know that was possible.
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  Speaker 3: But my own mom said, you know, so there was
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  Speaker 3: some things she didn't know, but she was always My
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  Speaker 3: mother says, you know, they've called her very codependent with me,
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  Speaker 3: and she said, yes, son, if it weren't for that
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  Speaker 3: code dependent relationship, you would be dead.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, yes, ma'am. So I worshiped that, and
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  Speaker 2: you know we're just tight now.
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  Speaker 3: But she said, you know, after reading this memoir, because
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  Speaker 3: my grandmother said it at ninety nine years old, if
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  Speaker 3: you haven't learned something today, then you're not alive. And
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  Speaker 3: my mom followed in those footsteps when she said, you know, son,
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  Speaker 3: I've just got one thing to say, and I didn't
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  Speaker 3: think I would say this.
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  Speaker 2: She goes, how does redemption feel?
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  Speaker 3: Because she said, because it felt good to me, and
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  Speaker 3: my mom was like wow. I was like, mom, you know,
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  Speaker 3: excuse me while I go outside and ball like a baby.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be right back. But you know, I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what people are going to get out of this.
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  Speaker 3: Then they're gonna hear some some pretty not merrish stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and then they're also going to hear some southern humor
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  Speaker 3: in there that because when you go through stuff like this,
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  Speaker 3: if you don't develop a.
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  Speaker 2: Sense of humor. You're not gonna survive, right, And so
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  Speaker 2: there is.
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  Speaker 1: That, Please do not move. There's more with Ty Herndon
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  Speaker 1: coming up next, the name of his book What Mattered Most.
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  Speaker 1: We are back with singer songwriter Ty hearned On. The
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  Speaker 1: thing about it is, oh TI, is that you put
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  Speaker 1: it in a way to where there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people out here. We just don't have direction to go,
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  Speaker 1: so to read it in the book, and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what I love about it, and that's what
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  Speaker 1: I want listeners to read the book, because you can't
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  Speaker 1: set it down and not come back to it. In
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  Speaker 1: other words, it's always going to be there. And when
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  Speaker 1: you correct things in your own personal life, well, if
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  Speaker 1: Ty did it, I'm going to do it, and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to correct it.
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  Speaker 3: Man, you just pretty much summed up this entire memoir.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for that. You know, wow, and you gave
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  Speaker 3: me chill bumps. You know, it's it's you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: it's I think.
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  Speaker 2: There's something that's bigger than you.
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  Speaker 3: You have to kind of just you kind of just
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  Speaker 3: kind of have to stake it, take a step back
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  Speaker 3: and then go, Okay, this is not the room may
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  Speaker 3: feel big. But how do we bring this home and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: this could happen to anybody, but you know it happened
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  Speaker 3: to me, and and and here are their tentacles and
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  Speaker 3: the reasons why this road led to this. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: at fifty nine years old, I got diagnosed with bipolar,
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  Speaker 3: which I mean I was just probably I was probably
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  Speaker 3: that bipolar that little kid was ten years old and
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  Speaker 3: just just reeling in it. And to find and to
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  Speaker 3: find out my mental health was not in a great place.
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  Speaker 3: And there were reasons for that. It wasn't about the
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  Speaker 3: drugs and alcohol at that point. It was about what
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  Speaker 3: was driving the drugs and alcohol and and and men
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  Speaker 3: to get some answers to that. You'll hear that in
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  Speaker 3: these pages that it was. It completely gave me a
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  Speaker 3: moment that I never thought I would get. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you guys know the flight of the bumblebees.
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  Speaker 2: I watched. I watched those little suckers get in uniform
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  Speaker 2: and land.
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  Speaker 3: I ever see that, So they're you know, they're still there,
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  Speaker 3: but they're you know, they're definitely paying attention to what
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  Speaker 3: I say, do and not they're not running my life.
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  Speaker 1: You are such a great example of what what my pastor,
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  Speaker 1: Steven Ferdie always talks about you got to live the
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  Speaker 1: darkness in order to see the light, and Ty, I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you you've lived the darkest because here's the thing
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't understand. You shaped the artist.
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  Speaker 1: You became the artist, but you had to shape the
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  Speaker 1: artist so that the artist wouldn't fall off that path.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: In true words, once again, get out of my head.
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  Speaker 3: It's so true because you know I spent I just
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  Speaker 3: did a panel for Country Radio, and I was almost
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  Speaker 3: terrified to do it because the subject was being seen.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, I'm sitting up here in front of
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  Speaker 3: a thousand of you guys, going okay, I spent three
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  Speaker 3: decades doing my very best not to be seen, and
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  Speaker 3: then trying to fool you into believing this paint by
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  Speaker 3: number picture that I'm painting, that we are painting for you,
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  Speaker 3: just to be in a career.
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  Speaker 2: That I love.
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  Speaker 3: And there was an ounce of accountability and and for me,
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  Speaker 3: authenticity in that. But I was willing to do it.
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  Speaker 3: And this book is also about Somebody said, is this
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  Speaker 3: a tell all? I said, it absolutely is.
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  Speaker 2: It's me telling on myself because this I left towns
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  Speaker 2: in ruin.
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  Speaker 3: And I have to go back to those towns and
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  Speaker 3: make amends for the mess and and where I could
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  Speaker 3: and sometimes you know what, you know, in life, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: you just can't.
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  Speaker 2: But you got. All you can do is say I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: and I love you, and you know, I hate this.
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  Speaker 2: I hate my life affected you this way. And so
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  Speaker 2: this is also a book about reconciliation.
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  Speaker 3: And and and and and removing yourself from condemnation, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And it's it's it's it's just what a journey.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, you've got to come back to this show anytime
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  Speaker 1: in the future. We're just barely scratching the subject here
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  Speaker 1: in the ground, man, because I mean, you, being a
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  Speaker 1: Southern guy, you know, we've got to have at least
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  Speaker 1: six cups of the or actually big jigonny glasses of
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  Speaker 1: sweet tea if we're going to break out a conversation
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  Speaker 1: like this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't do what goes with the sweet tea sometimes,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But you know, there are moments in this
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  Speaker 3: book that tells you I did so.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I will be brilliant today, man.
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  Speaker 2: And this conversation made me a better person. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, thank you