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AEW Hot Topics | Holiday Bash · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Cognition five four three two one zero.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the a W Fan podcast team. We're coming
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  Speaker 2: to you live on x and on Twitch and we
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  Speaker 2: will be of course uploading this as a Spotify Apple
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  Speaker 2: podcast podcast. Uh tomorrow, which is Wednesday. Just saw a
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  Speaker 2: W Dark for the first time and forever did you
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  Speaker 2: guys watch AW Dark tonight? Did?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was bad.
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  Speaker 3: I watched it just a little bit before we started this.
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  Speaker 3: It become fresh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was nice seeing it back again
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  Speaker 2: and a little bit odd, I think, yeah, from home
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  Speaker 2: doing the uh the remote and I love the way
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  Speaker 2: they played it off where like, uh it was it
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  Speaker 2: an ex Caliber was mentioning Taz taking his shoes and
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  Speaker 2: socks off, dropping them into the crowd in Wales when
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  Speaker 2: you knew that they were probably in New York when
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  Speaker 2: they were doing it. Yeah, probably not even in the
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  Speaker 2: same road Taz was in New York, you know, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: ex Caliber was probably wherever he lives, Florida, Waiver.
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  Speaker 3: I love when they can't be there but they pretend
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  Speaker 3: they are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But anyway, it was fun. It was great seeing
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  Speaker 2: a w Dark back for one night only. It was fun.
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  Speaker 3: That the patches were good relatively short.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, like thirty what were you gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, like I must have been out
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  Speaker 1: of the loop because I had no idea what was happening.
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  Speaker 2: At Yeah, it's it's on YouTube, so you can watch it.
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  Speaker 2: Right after we're done with this podcast, you can go
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  Speaker 2: watch aw Dark. Yeah. You know, well, you weren't feeling
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  Speaker 2: well last week, so we'll give you a pass. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, they did announce it last week and they
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  Speaker 2: it's been all over to discord and all over the
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  Speaker 2: subreddits and things like that, so you know, on Twitter
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  Speaker 2: and all that happy stuff. So if you missed it,
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  Speaker 2: you missed it. But you know what, let's get on
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  Speaker 2: with the show because we got some things that we
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about. I don't know. The thing I
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  Speaker 2: kind of want to lead off with is is speedball
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  Speaker 2: Mike Bailey. He had this really, really good match, a
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  Speaker 2: really good match. People were really I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: I keep saying really so much, uh really, but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: people were were praising this match is one of the
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  Speaker 2: best TV matches of the year, if not even a
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  Speaker 2: candidate for Match of the Year, the match between Speedball
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  Speaker 2: Mike Bailey and Kyle Fletcher, and then of course Speedball
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  Speaker 2: Mike Bailey then wrestled Kevin Knight in the Continental Classic.
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  Speaker 2: What was that our collision? And that was a different
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  Speaker 2: kind of match, but it was still really good. There,
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  Speaker 2: I said, really again, did you guys see these two matches?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and I saw the SA I saw the one
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  Speaker 1: versus Kyle Fletcher, and yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 2: Don't go there, you stop bucking me. I hope you
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  Speaker 2: get snow in Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: I would say it was very good, quite good, extremely good.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd say really good.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so so no no, no, no, no, no no,
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  Speaker 2: but okay, I'm gonna put you on the spot, Chris
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  Speaker 2: with the match between Kyle Fletcher at speed by Mike Bailey.
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  Speaker 2: Using our new scale of zero to ten thousand pictures
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  Speaker 2: of Adam Cole, what would you give this match?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, ten thousand, easy, but you're going right to ten thousand. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I definitely say it was the TV back of the Year,
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  Speaker 3: And I mean I'm pretty sure I know I t
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  Speaker 3: we did Match of the Year contender, like it wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: The match with Fletcher was so freaking good, Like those
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  Speaker 3: two just went ball to the wall, you know, everything
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  Speaker 3: they had for almost twenty minutes, and I mean, just
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  Speaker 3: an amazing match all around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: By also I also give it, I said, I also
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  Speaker 1: give it ten thousand pictures of Adam Cole, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: add on an extra five thousand picture just because Mike
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  Speaker 1: Bailey is so dang cute. He's adorable. Look at him.
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  Speaker 1: He's like a Pokemon. He's like a marginal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, with a mullet. There's still so many mullets in wrestling. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, gosh, it's like how many. It's just weird
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  Speaker 2: that there's so many wrestlers that have mullets where you
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  Speaker 2: really don't see them. I don't see them out in
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  Speaker 2: the wild that often, So I don't know. But the
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  Speaker 2: one thing I will say about this match, aw made
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  Speaker 2: a two minute and I know that it is this long.
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  Speaker 2: It's a two minute and twenty five second highlight reel
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  Speaker 2: of this match that they posted, and it got posted
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  Speaker 2: on different you know, social media, different on acts and
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  Speaker 2: on Blue Sky and Reddit and on one of our subreddits,
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  Speaker 2: Greatness of Wrestling. It was posted and you could you
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  Speaker 2: don't look, I don't know how other way to put this,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a two minute and twenty five second highlight reel,
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  Speaker 2: a highlight reel of a nineteen minute and ten second match.
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  Speaker 2: Remember this thing almost went to the time limit, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Mike Bailey when he got the pin, time was
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  Speaker 2: running out. They were in desperation mode at that point.
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  Speaker 2: They had just announced one minute left when Mike Bailey
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  Speaker 2: got the pin a few seconds later. But anyway, people watched.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even think they watched the entire two minute
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  Speaker 2: and twenty five second highlight reel. But you're gonna have these.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say it's sports entertainment fans that have
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  Speaker 2: no knowledge of professional wrestling. I'm just gonna say it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but it's the way I feel, uh saying
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  Speaker 2: things like oh it's flippy shit, no selling, It looked
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  Speaker 2: like choreographed ballet gymnastics, no storytelling. Seriously, you get this
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  Speaker 2: ont of a two minute and twenty five second highlight
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  Speaker 2: reel of a nineteen minute and ten second match. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think that's fair helm.
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  Speaker 3: They ye, not at all, But it's what it's what
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  Speaker 3: I would say eighty percent of the aw haters too.
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  Speaker 3: They watch a small clip and, like you said, may
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  Speaker 3: not even watch the entire thing and use that as
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  Speaker 3: if it's the entire match, so they can bitch and
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  Speaker 3: complain and use all the classic you know, BLUs word,
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  Speaker 3: no cell flipping, floppy bullshit. You know, they're idiots who
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  Speaker 3: should not be listened to. No, you don't watch an
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  Speaker 3: entire match. You can't judge the entire match, like if
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to. If you don't like that kind
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  Speaker 3: of wrestling, that's probably fine.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine, but yeah, don't watch it. Yeah, don't comment
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and no fear waiting around for Cornett to tell
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  Speaker 1: you what to think about the match either.
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  Speaker 2: But look, guys, you know it's coming to those people
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  Speaker 2: that say that this is flippy shit ballerina gymnastics, no selling,
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  Speaker 2: no storytelling, talking out of their ass. There's really only
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  Speaker 2: four words that need to be said. You know what
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  Speaker 2: they are, guys, I'll say it with me in one, two,
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  Speaker 2: three shot that hell no, there you go. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: let's get back into serious stuff though. With the speedball
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  Speaker 2: Mike Bailey, I mean, look, when he had this match
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  Speaker 2: against Kyle Fletcher, this was really an opportunity for a
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  Speaker 2: speedball Mike Bailey, who, in my opinion, has been doing okay,
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  Speaker 2: But okay is not good enough when you're surrounded by
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  Speaker 2: the athletes that AW does put out there. This was
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  Speaker 2: his coming out party. Would you agree with me in
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  Speaker 2: that this was, by bar the best speedball Mike Bailey
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  Speaker 2: has presented himself in AW.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I love Jet Speed as a team. They're like
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  Speaker 1: one of my favorites. There's so much fun. They have
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  Speaker 1: great chemistry. But one thing that's been awesome about this
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  Speaker 1: Continental Classic is that it's given both of them a
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  Speaker 1: chance to shine on their own merits.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean both have had
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  Speaker 3: singles matches, they're great as a team. You know, Bailey
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  Speaker 3: had some big matches early on when he came in
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  Speaker 3: and they were, you know great. This match felt like
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  Speaker 3: the first time we're seeing that, Okay, this is the
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  Speaker 3: guy who is really brilly go. Like, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: some people knew like he had great matches in the NA,
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  Speaker 3: he has some great matches in New Japan, you know,
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  Speaker 3: other independence and stuff, but like this was the match
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  Speaker 3: that I think sold a lot of people on speedball,
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  Speaker 3: being like, Okay, he could be a top tier guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but now look so now Speedball has won two
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  Speaker 2: in a row because he's beaten uh Kyle Fletcher, and
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  Speaker 2: of course he then beat his partner in jet Speed,
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Knight. Do you think that his streak will continue?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that he may actually make the semi
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  Speaker 2: finals in the Continental Classic or do you think that
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  Speaker 2: he's kind of gone as far as he's gonna go
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  Speaker 2: in this What are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: Gosh, I hope so the more Speedball the better, just
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  Speaker 1: like the amount of great matches he could have, like
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  Speaker 1: going into the tournament is just astounding.
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  Speaker 3: What about you, Chris, I'm a big famous Feedball, so
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  Speaker 3: I'd love to see it. It's it's one of those
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  Speaker 3: I could see it going either way, you know, because
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  Speaker 3: there are so many good wrestlers in the Continental Plastic.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he could he could make the semifinals. He
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  Speaker 3: could lose his next two. I'm personally rooting for him
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  Speaker 3: because I like his matches. All three of his matches
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  Speaker 3: have been fantastic. These last two. You know, the match
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  Speaker 3: with Kyle Fletcher, that's a put on the map kind
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  Speaker 3: of match, and then the one with Kevin Knight was
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  Speaker 3: so great because the back and forth and him busting
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  Speaker 3: out the Flamingo driver for the first time. He's attempted
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  Speaker 3: it before, but I think only once or twice, but
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  Speaker 3: this time he got it. That was what he needed
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  Speaker 3: to beat his partner who knows him so well. It's
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  Speaker 3: been a really great tournament for him, and yeah, I'd
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  Speaker 3: love to say and make the semifinals.
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  Speaker 2: Well here's where I think, and I'm gonna ask you
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  Speaker 2: to see whether you guys agree with me or not.
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  Speaker 2: But when I look at the Kyle Fletcher versus Speedball
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  Speaker 2: Mike Bailey match, I looked at it and the way
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  Speaker 2: Bailey came through in that match and a convincing I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying that he convincingly beat Kyle Fletcher. I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: that he was convincing as far as being a good contender,
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  Speaker 2: a good matchup with Kyle Fletcher. I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: it is necessary for Mike Bailey to actually make the
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  Speaker 2: quarterfinals in the Continental Classic. And the reason why I
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  Speaker 2: believe that is that we have a rematch begging to
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  Speaker 2: be done with Kyle Fletcher and they could do that
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  Speaker 2: after maybe Kyle Fletcher wins the TNT Championship, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: they can have a match together against each other to
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  Speaker 2: determine the number one contender for the TNT Championship. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but that's just something that I was thinking about.
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  Speaker 2: What do you guys think?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see your point, but he may not need it,
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  Speaker 1: but it'd still be nice to see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with with. You know, I picked Kyle
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  Speaker 3: Fletcher to win the Continent Classic, so you know, could
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  Speaker 3: have a rematch after that or that title as well,
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  Speaker 3: or you know, true for the national title.
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  Speaker 2: Very true.
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  Speaker 3: He's the thing about this tournament is you have you
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  Speaker 3: can build up future stories use current story, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: you can highlight someone who maybe they're not gonna win,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they're not even gonna make the semi finals, but
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  Speaker 3: they have great, amazing matches throughout. And that's something that
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  Speaker 3: the aw fans appreciate. Like it's wins and losses matter,
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  Speaker 3: but it's also performance.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, you could have a guy.
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  Speaker 3: Lose ten matches in a row, but if he's having
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  Speaker 3: great matches and fighting hard throughout, the w fans are
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  Speaker 3: gonna appreciate that. Even you know, I said, even if
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  Speaker 3: he loses his next two, they could be great matches
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  Speaker 3: and he can still be a guy. That's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: we know he can be top tier.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, right and not look like they're wrestling down to
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  Speaker 2: have him win. I mean, I got the impression absolutely
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  Speaker 2: the Kyle Fletch was giving his absolute best in that match,
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  Speaker 2: as was Mike Bailey. Yeah, so, you know, I personally
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  Speaker 2: don't believe that Mike Bailey is going to make the
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  Speaker 2: semi finals the Continental Classic, but I also believe that
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't need to because he's already established himself with
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  Speaker 2: one With that one match against Kyle Fletcher. I think
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  Speaker 2: that it is he's gotten a lot more notice from
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  Speaker 2: fans than he ever could have against anybody else. And
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  Speaker 2: that's a testament to Kyle Fletcher as well. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think that he doesn't get enough credit, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for what he does.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the chemistry between those two in that match
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  Speaker 3: was freaking amazingly. They they felt they worked off of
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  Speaker 3: each other, and you know, they take each other freaking
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  Speaker 3: everything in that match, Like, yeah, it takes two to tango,
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  Speaker 3: as they say. So, Yeah, how Fletcher definitely deserves its
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  Speaker 3: flowers on that one as well.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of want to segue into the next topic
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  Speaker 2: because Mike Bailey is one of the wrestlers that I
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  Speaker 2: consider part of this is that there are wrestlers that
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  Speaker 2: have either proven their worth with AW or have had
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: long tenures in AW who have never had a belt. Now,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, you know, I don't want people
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  Speaker 2: coming after me saying a belt doesn't make the wrestler.
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  Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with that, but it is something that
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I think every wrestler wants to have
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  Speaker 2: a belt at some point, But there are wrestlers like
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  Speaker 2: if you're if you're watching this, the graphic has sky
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  Speaker 2: Blue up there, who has been with AW for god
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  Speaker 2: knows how long and uh has never had a belt
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  Speaker 2: around on her waist. Mike Bailey, Kevin Knight. I mean,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: what are some other men and women in AAW that
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: have never had an AAW belt? I mean, I can
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  Speaker 2: even put Athena in there. She's never had an AAW belt.
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  Speaker 2: She's had a ring of honor belt, but it's not
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. It doesn't have the same prestige. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sorry to insult anybody to thinks otherwise, but I personally
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  Speaker 2: do not believe that a ring of honor belt has
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  Speaker 2: carries the same weight as as an AAW belt. So
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  Speaker 2: what are some other wrestlers that maybe being left behind,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: and then all of the wrestlers that maybe being left behind.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Which ones do you think may actually win a belt?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: You know, in twenty twenty.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Six, Dark Orders should win the trio's titles.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Have they had a belt before? Though? That's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. I mean, obviously Hangman, Anna
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Page Has, Brody Lee has. By the way, happy birthday,
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  Speaker 2: mister Lee. We miss you.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: But what about John Silver? Like everybody was talking about
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: how good and underrated he was for the longest time.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: But has the Johnny Hungky ship sadly passed or do
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: you think he still like deserves.
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  Speaker 3: More Dark Order? I'm talking about the current trio Evil Uno,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Stu Grayson. Oh sorry, I wish he was back, Evil Youno,
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  Speaker 3: John Silver, Alex Brims. Yeah, they've neither one of them
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  Speaker 3: have ever held a title in a w and I've
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: long said the trio division needs to be reworked. You need,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: you know, real trios and make it the fun title.
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  Speaker 3: Make it, you know, one that's regularly defended. Use guys
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  Speaker 3: that don't have anything to do. You've can have some
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: short range, you can have some long range. You can
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: do a lot of stuff with it, but we got
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: to get it on like a real trio, not you know,
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  Speaker 3: a guy that's also world champion. Nothing. I like them.
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  Speaker 3: I just wish the trios titles were doing something else
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  Speaker 3: and actually matters right now, because.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, I'm sure I'll reiterate it briefly,
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  Speaker 2: but I do not believe that AW should have a
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: trios titles. I think those should be exclusive to Ringabater
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  Speaker 2: fair enough.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of six man tag matches, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I think they can be a lot of fun and
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: you know, when done well, and it could be one
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  Speaker 3: of those I think the division could be something right
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: there middle of the show, you know that the fans
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: can enjoy have some fun with and lee room for
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: bigger matches, you know, Like the trios titles are mid
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: card low lower mid belts, they're.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're low card, they're not even they're not big card.
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  Speaker 3: I would say they Okay, they should be mid to
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  Speaker 3: low right there, middle of the show. Fun matches with
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  Speaker 3: you know, crazy trios like the Dark Order. I'm not
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: a fan of them, but they're good. Heels. The frat
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  Speaker 3: House Shane Taylor Promotions exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But but that's the reason why I'm saying the good
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: actual trios teams, even the Dark Order, have been on
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor more often than not the Frat House
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  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor, Shane Taylor Promotions Ring of Honor. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all of the good trios teams that are actually teams
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  Speaker 2: are on Ring of Honor. That's why I'm saying it
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: should the six band tag titles, because that's what they
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  Speaker 2: call it on Ring of Honor. It don't call it
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  Speaker 2: the Trios titles. They should be exclusive to Ring Him Honor,
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, and just eradicate them completely from AW.
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  Speaker 3: I'd rather just have one pair, you know, of trios
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  Speaker 3: titles and just have them on. You know, you can
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: feature him mostly on Ring of Honor, but then you
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: can bring him on, you know, Tellision when you need,
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  Speaker 3: you know, title mass to add to the show.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Sure, Jess, do you have any any opinions about this? I?
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I could be wrong, Please correct me.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: If he's held one before. Sometimes it's hard to keep
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: track because AW does have a lot of belts. Has
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Kyle O'Reilly held the title yet?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: God, that's a good question. I want to say he has.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I want to say he has,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: but I want to say he.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Has if he should, and he's shown.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I think wasn't didn't he? And maybe it was Adam Cole,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Kyle O'Reilly and Roderick Strong held the trio's titles at
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: one point.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I think, so, you know, I got
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: to look for something now.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that that's a good that's a good person
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: that you're talking about there, regardless. I mean, it doesn't
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: even necessarily have to be somebody that has not had
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: a title, but it could be somebody like Kyle O'Reilly,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: where we think, hey, did he have a title? Because
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: if we don't know, it's kind of hard to say,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's hard to justify it. I don't know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: did you find anything out?
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Chris also, uh, yeah, he has not held a title
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: in a he he did win the Men's Casino Battle
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Royal in twenty twenty two.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's yeah, yeah, So.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: All right, my point stands, Then give Kyle O'Reilly a title.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Or title push. I mean, they don't even necessarily have
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: to have a title, but they should have a legitimate title.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Push Again, sky Blue is a good example on the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: women's side. Of course, on the women's side you could
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: even say uh Tamello and a j uh women like that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: On the men's side, there's plenty of men like uh.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: By the way to blade is his back. He did
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: wrestle this past weekend, not for aw but he's working
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: his way back, which is good to see. Uh, But
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: there's so many guys.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know who I think deserves a singles title.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I know he's held the trios title, but I think
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: uh Claudio Casting Nola should definitely be in the consideration
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: for some singles belt, right.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I mean he is the current CMLL World Heavyweight Champion.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: He is uh wrestling and defending that championship on Friday
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: night at nine thirty pm Eastern Time in Arena, Mexico
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: on Triller TV. And I said Cheler TV because I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: posted it on the aw fand a X account earlier today.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Ed Triller, I call, I said that it was on Triller.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Ed Triller actually corrected me. So, I guess that's one
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: way to get somebody to respond to you by not
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: putting TV at the end of the name. It's kind
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: of like if I just called Johnny TV Johnny, he
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: may respond to me, but anyway, it will be on
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Chuler TV. Seven ninety nine is the costs and it
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: is English commentary on Triller. If you are already a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: member of the cmlll YouTube channel and have the correct tier,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: then you will be able to watch it on the
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: CMLL you YouTube channel as you can watch all of
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: their shows, but you will not get it in English commentary.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It will be Spanish only commentary on the CMLL YouTube channel.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: If you want to get it on English commentary at
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the pay of seven ninety nine and watch it at
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: nine thirty pm on sue Er TV. And I believe
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Speedball Speedball Mike Bailey is also going to be on
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the show and a few others from AW so you
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: know you will be able to see some a w
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: wrestlers on the show as well. No women's matches, which
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: is very unusual for CMLL. But anyway, but that that's
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that was a good that was a good person. Uh yeah, Claudio,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: he has I believe he has had the Trios titles though, right.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, like you know, just
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: though again, I don't even consider somebody that has a
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: has hell held a Trios title is actually having held
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: a title because those titles are those titles are left behind,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: you know, they're they're not defended regularly.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: So there it is again. I'll say it again last time.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I swear they should be r O H exclusive titles,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: six man tags. Get rid of the trio's titles. In
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: aw there's no need for them. There's no need for them.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Also one more one more mentioned. I know he's injured
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: right now and it's sort of if he whether he'll
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: even be back at all, but uh coda abushi.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, I agree with you there. I mean,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of them. There really is. When you
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: think about it, you'd be surprised. If you go up
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: and down the roster page there are. And again I'm
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: not saying that titles are important. Titles do not make
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the wrestler, but I do think that having a run
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: at a title at least does make the wrestler. Nods.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Dan Housen has that Housen if he did come back
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: to a W it did wrestle wrestle again? What do
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: you how many wrestling matches did he have at a
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: W six Maybe.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I think it was a few more than that, But
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: like it was mostly six and eight man's hands. I
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: feel like he's one of those characters who you like
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: to see a like a monthly show, but every week
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, it was funny the first few times,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: but I need a little break from you.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't being serious. I I do like Dan Housen.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I think he's a delight his watching his YouTube channel
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: is an instant thing to cheer yourself up.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: But no, I like he's a you know, he's solid
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: in the ring and when he does, you know, do
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: the more like serious stuff, you know, and really wrestles.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: He stood, and the character is fun seeing here and there,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Like you know, if he shows up this week, don't
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: have him show up next week, or you know, he's
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: not a main character. I guess I would say.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Well, there's all, but there's also you know, not that Look,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: they're not getting any younger, but they're not really getting
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: any older either, and that's the outrunners they need. I
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: would mind seeing them again, not necessarily get a belt,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: but at least be a serious contender for a belt.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And what I mean by serious contender them and them
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: alone against the champions. I don't I'm not a fan
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: of the Three Ways is Look tomorrow night on Dynamite,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: we're getting the three way contract signing between what a Hangman,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Ani Page, Square Strickland, and Samoa Joe. I have zero
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: interest in this match, none whatsoever. I really don't have
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: any interest in it because it's so overdone. It's senseless.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make you know, And it's a contract signing too.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: We're having a contract signing for a match that I
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: don't really I'm not really fired up about it. I mean,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I'll watch it, but I'm not really fired up about it.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I hope it's a good match, and I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: hope it gives me say, oh, I wasn't expecting that,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: and I'm all for that. I would love to be surprised,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: but going into it, I just like, okay, another one
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: of these.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I think. I think their first match was really good,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: really interesting, and I think with the new wrinkle when
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: the Hangman's swerve story is like they're they're definitely not friends,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: but they've kind of like not really buried the hatchet,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: but they've at least dug the hole for it.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, Well, we'll talk about that match at
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: length when we do our World's End Prediction Show, which
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: will be next Tuesday night, I believe right by the way,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: By the way, that kind of brings me to the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: next segment. Look, World's End is the twenty seventh. It's
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the sixteenth. World's End is the twenty seventh, right, yes, yeah,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: it's the sixteenth. How many matches we have for World's End?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: We've got the quarterfinal, two semifinal matches for the Continent,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the Classic plus the finals, so that's three. We've got
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Chris stat Lander against uh oh god, who's Jamie Hayter.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: That's four. And we've got the World Championship match that
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: we were just talking about. That's five matches. I don't
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: do we don't have We don't have any other matches
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: set up, do we?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: No?
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: I am.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I would bet money that we get a eight man
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: all star tag between the with the wrestlers who didn't
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: make it into the semifinals. It happened last year. I
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: see no reason not to do it again this year.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Right. Oh? You know what about They're doing the Dynamite
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Diamond Ring Battle Royal tomorrow night and the last two
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: that remain are having a match. Is that a World's
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: End match? Or is that the next week week. Okay, yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: all right, so there's that, but that's not World's end.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: It's just weird because I'm sure we may get a
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: challengers for the Women's World Championship of the Tag Titles
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: against the Baby I'm sure, and we'll probably get something
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: with Mark Briscoe.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I can see open challenge.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, we may see something with you know. So
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: we are going to have matches. But the thing is
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: is that well, the Continental Classic is going to take
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: color care of itself as far as the story goes there,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: because the story is the storytelling in the ring. They
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: really don't need any setup because the matches are to
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: set up. They do need to do something between Jamie
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Hater and Chris Statlander because right now they're too chummy
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: in my opinionion. They do need to come up with
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: something for the Babies rat. They need to come up
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: with something for Mark Briscoe. They need to come up
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: with something, you know, from Mercedes Monett. Probably there's just
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: too many open ends and there's no story. They're literally
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: when you say, okay, what's Mark Briscoe's story, there is none.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: What's Mercedes monett story? There is none.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: She slowly milks I don't think that way.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think that way. People are like, well it
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: started the the uh you know, she's gonna lose all
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: of her belts all at once. I don't think that's
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: gonna happen. I really don't.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, she lost one and did not take it
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: very well. It's only gonna get worse these keys.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but she's you know, she she defended what three
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: titles over the weekend and retained all three of them.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think she's going to half of Milltown.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: But it's not gonna be this so like just crazy
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: fast knows.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: No rights exact.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Like, she's not going to lose another title for probably
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: you know, I think revolution she can lose the TBS
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: title Vaders, you.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Know, right, No, no, no, I agree with you.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: And from there, you know, probably another couple of months
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: he loses the title, and then maybe she has a
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: string of bad luck where she loses like three in
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: a row within like a month. But it's not just
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: going to happen like boom boom boom boom boom, right
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: titles by the end of the year.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. The way I describe it, Chris, is like
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen. It's gonna have a trickle down effect,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: but it's not going to be an avalanche.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's going to still like because she's still so
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: damn talent. She's going to keep defending titles until she
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: comes up against those really big tests, and a lot
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: of them are going to be against people she already like, yeah, people.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Who learned.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: And now she's getting talky that because she thinks she
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: was already so much better but doesn't realize how much
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: better they've gotten right now.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: She just defended I can't I don't even know. I
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: know she defended the the undisputed British Championship, that was
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: the main belt that she was defending in Cardiff, Wales.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: And when when they announced that match against Rio, not
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Rio from aaw but Rio. Uh and if you're not
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: familiar with Rio, she is a beast. When they announced
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: that match, this is well before the matches with Red
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Velvet and all that, I was like pointing at that
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: as like that's where she's going to lose one of
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: her belt is against Rio. But that didn't happen. She
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: ended up losing the belt against Red Velvet, and I
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: was kind of pleased that she retained against Rio because
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I really don't want to see her lose these belts
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: in the avalanche style.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, completely agree with you.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I want to move on because we had already mentioned this,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: the Dynamite Diamond Battle Royal. Do you guys see MGF
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: coming back for this tomorrow night?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, Why wouldn't he?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: That's his whole thing.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I really hope so. Like I mean, but realistically, he
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: shouldn't need to be in the Battle Royal. The winner
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: of the Battle Royal should have to face him for
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: the ring. It's his ring, Like, they can't just take
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: it away from him.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they do that all the time. I mean,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: look at the Continental Classic.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, think of the ring as an annually defended miniature
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: belt whinter the Battle Royal gets the ring. MGF just
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: happens to win it every year and it's sort of
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: become his signature weapon. But that doesn't mean he's guaranteed
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: to keep it forever.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Well, he better this year.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing, he's already gone. Remember he
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: still has this contract that he hasn't executed yet that
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: he needs to use seven days in advance if he
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: wins the Diamond. Uh. The Dynamite Diamond Battle Royal. Well,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: if he's one of the last two, then he wrestles
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: to become the number one to win the ring and
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: become the number one contender. Isn't that correct?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, then he wouldn't. Then he wouldn't need to
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: use his contract. He wants to avoid using that thing
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: if at all possible, because his.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Insurance post thing to do. Win the Diamond Dynamite Battle Royal,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: go into his title match, just kick whoever's the champion
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: right in the ditch, take the DQ and then just
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: beat the ever loving wrapout of them, almost break their arm,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: and then sign the contract and demand the match for
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: next week.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a very Max plan.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Max, let's talk about Max Caster and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: UH and Anthony Bowens. I mean, they've been pretty much
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: for some reason, for some reason, I would be surprised
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: if both of them were the last two standing because
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: of everything that's happened leading up to this.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: It's a weird final four and take each other out.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but they need to rekindle that love
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: affair because everybody loves the acclaimed scissor. That just that
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: did not sound right. No, but i'd I need a minute.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Somebody talked I need to go take a cold shower. Well, look,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've got a lot to talk about in
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: the pot pourrix section, so I want to go to that. Uh.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I know that Chris you had one, and I know
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Jess had a pot pourri. So let's hear what you've
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: got me.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, preface by saying, I'm pretty sure that everyone every
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: wrestling fan has one favorite from back in the day
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: that's like their guy or lady. But seeing as how
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: back in the day was probably guy, mine happens to
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: be Nick Foley. I have loved Mix since I was
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a kid. I pretty much have his entire collection of
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: autobiographies great reads. Anyway, Mick is currently as of right
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: now this minute, signed with WWT for a Legends deal
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: will end in the spring Mike's own choice.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Dude.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, Mick is is letting his Legends deal lapse and
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: refuses to sign another as long as the current administration
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: is in power because he is fed up with how
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: morally downhill ww is gone, and in his words, quoting Popeye,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: He's had all he can stands and he can't stand
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: no more. I people say, don't meet your heroes. But
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I would meet Nick any day of the week. He
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: just just consistently proven to be just an absolutely great guy.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, this has been a big talking point today.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: We made a post about it on aw Fan, We
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: made a post about it on greadest Wrestling. The reactions
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: are bad about what you would expect. A lot of
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: people saying, goodbye, Mick, don't let the door hit you
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: on your way, you know, not to wait out the door,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: don't whatever, you know it's and then some people were saying,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: like you said, he was. He's always been one of
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: my favorites, you know, and I respect him, you know,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: even if I may not agree with him, I still
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: respect respect him. I don't know. I really don't want
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: to get into the politics of it, but I mean,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: here's what I think. Why wait until now to do this?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Should have done this ages and ages ago. Now. He
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: may may have made his intentions known months ago, but
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: why wait until now to do this. I don't know
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: how you guys feel about that.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I have my theory. I don't I don't know how
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: much which I should elaborate given as sort of a
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: sensitive topic. But let's just say something happened very very recently.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: That may have been the straw broke.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Well, he said that that was the straw that broke
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: the Campbell's back. There's no way if answer butts about it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: There's no may about it. He did say that Donald
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Trump's comments about the murder of.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Uh Rob.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Yea was what broke This was the straw that broke
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the camel's back. So there's no if ans or butts
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: about it. That's what did it. But my point is
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: is that and I don't look. I avoid the news
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: like a plague because to me, everything on the news
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: is stupidity. It's beneath me. And I hate to say
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: that about you know, our government, our everything, but it's
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: to me, the news is more like a pot cast.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: To me, it's a bunch of talking heads out there.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: It's pewing stuff about stuff that's happened without actually reporting
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: the news. They're reporting their opinions.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: So probably would have been camel back for me.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But alls I'm saying is that again, what what
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: the current administration said about Rob Reiner.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: It was was stupid as hell.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: But this is not anything new. This isn't a long
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: line of stuff that's stupid as hell. And I'm not
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: talking really about Donald Trumper the administration because when it
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: comes to politics, everything that's said pretty much has been
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: stupid as hell. It's it's playground stuff. I mean it's
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: for years, you know, That's all I'm saying. Is that?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Why wait until now when stupid as hell has been
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: going on for quite a while?
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Now, I know what I agree.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're just pixelated like crazy. You can't understand the
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: word you're saying. Well, you may have to you may
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: have to reboot. You can't really tell better now on
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: two words? Okay, Chris, did you have a potpourri?
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I mean just kind of the general New Japan round up,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: you know, since they are a a W partner and
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: not all of the fans, well go in. Hopefully, hopefully
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: I can wrap it up interesting enough. World Tag League
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: over Rio, Hey, Olila, I struggle with his name, I apologize,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: and Zach Sapertun you have one. Surprisingly, they are taking
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: their title match at New Year's ash instead of the
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Tokyo Dome, which New Japan is currently on the road too,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: with shows on the nineteenth, twenty first, and twenty second,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: all on New Japan World nineteenth and twenty first Japan
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Live commentary English too, twenty second live English commentary from
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Chris Child, and then it's onto the Tokyo Dome for
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Wrestle Kingdom. That's it.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Okay. I've got like two or three things and I
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: want to bring up and I think they're kind of fun. Well,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: the first one kind of goes back to what Jess
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: said Jim Cornett, and I can't believe I'm bringing Jim
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Cornett up on this podcast because the guy's a tool.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: But he did say regarding Mick Foley, he said that
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: this is what he well, he didn't say it, he
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: posted it. I don't think McK foley's on Twitter or
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I tag him, but I want to state publicly that
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: while I've always liked him, he has just become my
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: favorite person in the world. I wish all the boys
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: had his backbone and more importantly, his morals, to which
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Ricochet responded saying something that a lot of people probably
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: want to say but are too embarrassed to say. Ricochet responded,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I honestly never thought I'd agree with this loser. I
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: just thought that was funny.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: You know what they'll say, even a broken clock is
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: right twice the day.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I mean that that's pretty much like General Stan Saloon Pournette.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Eight percent of what he says regarding current wrestling, I ignore,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: great historian now, great manager in his day. Respect for that, pharoh,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: respect for his opinion on current wrestling, well not zero
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: but like two percent, you know whatever.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the epitome of old man yells its.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, I agree with anything whatever she just said, because
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: you're totally I can't understand anything you're saying. Yes. Sorry.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Another thing that came out, but this one was from
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Fiteful said that one source at a W told Fifel
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: they expected Steve Borton Jr. That's Sting's son, to be
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: under a W contract before long, if he's not already.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: So Sting's son, Stephen Steve Borton Junior did perform uh
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: like on a dark match last week against Kieren Gray
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: and according to to Uh to to uh, I'm sorry,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: but according to Tony Kahan, he just gushed about him.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: So that was something that was very very good to hear.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: And it would be cool to see to see Steve
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Bordon Jr. In AW, possibly as under Darby Allen's wing,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: does Darby is the one that's training him.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he makes like regular
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Dark appearances during their residency in Arlington.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I think they.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think they live like crazy close, but it's
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: close enough where he can come up every week for
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: those shows. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see him.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: So maybe a random TV apparent that'd.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Be nice, even if it's just a run in and uh,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: you know, to save Darby from himself even Yeah, you know,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: another interesting topic, and this is something that that I
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: am really happy about. Well, in the fifty two years
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: that Tokyo Sports has been giving out their MVP award,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: no woman has ever won the award until this year.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Ayakamaani from Stardom is Tokyo Sports MVP. She not only
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: won the Women's MVP, she won the overall MVP, becoming
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: the first woman in the fifty two years of that
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: award to win the award. And that's saying something, especially
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: in Japan.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, you know, especially when you think of
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: like back in the seventies and eighties, you know, women's
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: wrestling in Japan was freaking better than pretty much every
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: men's promotion. They were doing amazing thing that's coming up
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: with all sorts of news. The fact that none of
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: them ever won it, it just makes it that much
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: more historic, Like you think of who could have won, right,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: and the fact that she's the first and it's well earned.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: It really is well earned. I mean, if you don't
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: know who Saya Kamentani is, she's in the faction called eight,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: which is the same faction that Tecla came out of
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: before she came to AW. She's in. Another name that
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: you probably would know if you're an AW fan is
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Momo Watanabe, who did wrestle against Mercedes Monet last year
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: for the TBS Championship at a paper. Really can't remember
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: which one it was off the top of my head,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: but she did lose, but it was a really good match. Actually,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I think that was probably one of the first matches
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: that people at AW took notice and say, hey, this
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Mercedes boney chick isn't too bad. And that was brought
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: out of her by Baba Watanabe. But my point is
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: is that when you look the big difference between stardom
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: and a w and stardom in WWE is that Stardom
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: is a women's only promotion, so that in and of itself,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you don't have to compete against the men
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: for bringtime. You're going to get your ring time, and
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: boy do they get their ringtime. Because I looked it
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: up about a month ago, and at the time that
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I looked it up, Tony Storm and Mercedes Monette. If
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: you added all of their matches in twenty twenty five together,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: it came to just over how many matches that Saya
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Kamatani had by yourself. So you're looking at, you know,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: a woman in Saya Kamatani that's averaging wrestling just under
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: every like just I mean just over. When I looked
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: at it, I think it's every three point two days
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: she has a wrestling match, and that's tough. That is
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of wrestling matches. Well, I believe.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: There are a lot of times with the Japanese promotions
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: it'll be like you could have three matches back to
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: back to back and then take a day off have
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: two more like the tours they run. Is saying schedule, really,
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: you're yeah, it's every three point two, but it's because
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: you'll wrestle three days, have a day off wrestle, to
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: have a day off wrestle to you know, have a
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: day off, wrestle another three and then have like a
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: week to ten days off. So like when when you
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: think of that too, it makes how many matches she's
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: had even that much.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: More right, Yeah, awesome? Yeah, and they have relatively few injuries.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I mean it's not just Syakonatandi that does this. When
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: you look at Stardom and Marigold and t J p W,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: which are the three prominent I would most prominent, I
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: would say Women's only wrestling promotions. They have a ton
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: of matches. These were working, they are working, So give
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: them their flowers, you know, watch them, you know, make
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: their make their time, and and they're good. And they're
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: so good. Oh my god, they're good. They're so fun
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: to watch. The matches are. They're so fun. I'm never disappointed,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: which brings me to another prot PORI with Stardom, we
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: have a uh, they're doing their dream queendom. I want
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: to I don't have to date right in front of me.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I think it's on the twenty ninth of this month.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is right.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: But anyway, on the discord and if you're watching this,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: you can see our discord link right there at the
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: bottom of your screen. On our discord, we have in
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: the in the actual discord, we have polls for the
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Dream Queendom. It's the polls are in the uh Dream
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Dream Queendom Stardom channel and it has all the matches
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: that have been announced thus far. You can vote, and
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: then what we do is we will publish what everybody thinks.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: And it's it's a lot of fun because when it
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: came to what was the last PvP for aw oh
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: my God with Full Gear. Yeah, we had the poll,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: we had the polls up for Full Gear. We did horrible.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: We got destroyed. I think there was nine matches. I
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: think we got three right. It was just like unbelievable.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Then we had Final Battle. We had polls up for
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Final Battle and we we nailed it. We got every
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: one of them right on the discord. So then we
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: of course we had we also do ww poles for
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the for the NXT and Wwepolis. We will have a
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: poll up in a few days for Russell Kingdom twenty. Unfortunately,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: the polls only can last the backs up of two weeks,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: and the Russell Kingdom twenty is on the sixth of January.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Is that correct?
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: The fourth?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, it was always on January fourth.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, Russell Kingdom is always on January fourth, kind of
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: like a national holiday, I guess, so two weeks before
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: January fourth, whichever that is, we will have the Russell
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Kingdom cards up and the Russell Kingdom twenty channel on
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: the discord. You can go and vote and let's just
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: see how we do. It's a fun way to make
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's kind of like a fun way
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: to make watching the shows more interesting. The other way
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: it's more interesting is that to make it more interesting
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: is that once the polls close, we try to close
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: the polls about an hour to two hours before the
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: actual event starts. Then, for example, we will have a
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: World's End poll up once we have more matches for
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: World's End after the polls close out one to two
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: hours beforety events start, then that channel becomes a live
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: chat for that event. And that's always a lot of
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: fun as well. So it's a great way to meet people,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: it's a great way to make new friends, and it's
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: a great way to make you know, it's kind of
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: like fantasy football. Watching the NFL. It kind of just
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: makes it a little bit more interesting. It makes it
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: a little bit more interesting to watch. Just then you
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: can see your picks compared to everybody else's picks and whatnot.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: So you could gloat if you pick right and everybody
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: more majority of people pick wrong, you know, So if
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: you pick an upset and you're right, you can gloate
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: about it because it's right there in black and white.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Also on the discord we have at aw Awards Channel.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: We did our nominations last week and now we have
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: the pulls up for voting for the aw awards. And again,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: this is just a fun little thing that we do
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: every year. This is the third annual year that we've
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: done it. There's not there's several categories, but not too
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: many that you will you know, that will make you
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: It doesn't take a lot of time. I'll give you
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: the categories right now. I'm not gonna tell you the
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: nominees are. You'll have to go and look. But the
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: categories are the male and female Wrestlers of the Year,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: the Faction of the Year, to Tag Team of the Year,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: the most improved of the Year, heal and Babyfaces of
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: the Year, Character work, of the Year. That's it. They're
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: just fun categories, nothing serious, just getting the vibes from
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the community. And there's been several dozen votes already made.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: And there's some surprises. I'm not gonna lie to you,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: there are some surprises in this, particularly in the heat
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: of the year. I'm going I don't want to say
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: who's leading, but I don't know that.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: It's it's a surprise.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Also, on our discord tomorrow night, while you're watching a
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: w Dynamite, we have a room set up aw TV
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: live Chat. You can live chat during the show. We're
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: trying to make aw fan hubs accessible and make it
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: give everybody opportunities to help you meet people and enjoy
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: the shows. That's what it's all about. I really like it.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: We had somebody on the aw pant hub subreddit that
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: is going to the Dynamite tomorrow night, the Dynamite Collision
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: tomorrow n I don't forget it's a three hour show
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night. And it was just, you know, he's he
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: had to go to the show by himself. He doesn't
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: really know anybody else. It's a wrestling fan. He bought
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: himself a single ticket and hey, does anybody want to
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: meet up, you know before the show and talk. It's
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: a great way to meet friends, you know. So that's
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: what we're about.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: So, uh, that's how I've done. I went to quite
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: a few aw shows by myself and just hope some
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: people went line were cool and we're up to talk
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: about speed.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: The five percent of the time it's worked.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I went to a Dynamite last year, a
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: set next little guy. I went by myself. The sat
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: next little guy that uh he went by. He came
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: by himself as well, and we had a blast. You know,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: we had a blast. We were just we were completely opposite.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: He liked people that I didn't like. And you know,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: not that I dislike people, you know, because I love everybody,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: even Eddie Kingston, but some people because Jess can't defend yourself.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: Oh right now at least somebody does.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Not in the chat right now. Yeah. But anyway, like
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: I said, it's a great way. Look, the community is
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: all about participation, it really is. The community is all
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: about participation. Participation. You could say it, I can't say it,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: but uh, take take advantage of it. We're open to suggestions.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: We want to do stuff that you want to do,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: you know, and make it fun, and that's what we're
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: all about here at aw FAN. We're gonna call it
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: a night. We will not be doing all uh. I'll
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: lea talk tomorrow night because it's a three hour dynamite
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: collision block and we're not going to stay away that late.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: So we will see you again next week Tuesday at
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: eight forty five Eastern. Join us in the chat and
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: we're going to be making our picks for UH World's
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: End and talking about other hot topics at aw UH.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: But we're gonna be talking about no, no, no, where
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: did that come from?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be the announcement of
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: the awards.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't think Chris. That's what my parents. That's what
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: my parents always used to tell me. Don't think Chris,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: which was really upsetting to me because I was like,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: who the hell is Chris?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: Hey, it's it's better than what I had. Don't think
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: you was a idiot?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you ever heard the expression, you know, children should
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: be seen and not heard. Yeah, my parents used to say,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: if you had another brain, it would be lonesome. They
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: were cruel people. My parents are cruel, you know. And yeah,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about your mom and dad, God rest your
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: soul whatever. I don't know, I don't know. I'm gonna
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: put my feet up. I got my feet up on
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: the desk now, and I have a cold cloth across
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: my forehead and I'm just spewing at this point. All right, So, uh,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: I think we now know the reason why Jess sounded
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: so crappy because their battery is dying.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, So anyway, Uh, We're gonna call it a
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: night and we will see you at eight forty five
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: Eastern time next Tuesday.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Enjoy. I'm looking forward to the Dynamite Diamond Ring battle.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: I am not looking forward to the contract signing. I'm
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: gonna be honest with you, but enjoy Dynamite just the same.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Join us for the live chat on the aw fan hub.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Uh well, no, we don't do the de live chat
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: on the aw fan hubs subreddit. We do the live
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: chat on the Everything Pro Wrestling Hub Discord, So follow
• 1:04:30
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• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: w Hub. We will see you next week. Everybody, good night.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: It's a three hour Dynamite Collision, but there is also
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: collision on Saturday, one hour early start time.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much. I do have to say
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: goodbye again, A good night again
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I Daddy Kingston and happy Honor m j F.