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LIVE: Jim Nagy has Sooners Fans CRAZY over Recruiting | Oklahoma Strategy Shifted? (S3 E16) · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: Hope you all enjoyed your fourth July. We've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things to talk about here on the Sooner
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jay. That is Coop. Thanks for pulling up here
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  Speaker 1: anyway and gifted. So. On today's episode of The Sooner
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  Speaker 1: or Later Sports Show, me and Cook got some fun
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  Speaker 1: stuff to talk about with you all. First, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: dive into Jim Naggy's words. He's saying some stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: I promise happy y'all didn't listen to anything he said.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some sleepers as well as some
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  Speaker 1: surprises on the roster this season, and we'll wrap things
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  Speaker 1: up talk a little bit in CAA twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: because it launches tomorrow, so of course we had reasons
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  Speaker 1: to be excited. Coop, how was your fourth JULYE my friend.
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  Speaker 2: I still got all ten digits, so that's that's always
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  Speaker 2: a plus.
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  Speaker 3: That's always a plus, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks I you know, I love this time
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  Speaker 2: of the year. Tomorrow is your boy's birthday. Week tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: is your birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, you have a.
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  Speaker 3: Little little America birthday.
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  Speaker 2: And so yeah, this is the last month without Sooner
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  Speaker 2: football kids. This is the last month, I'll say it again,
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  Speaker 2: the last month without football.
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  Speaker 3: We are going to be kicking it off very.
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  Speaker 1: Sim I am, I am just in my heart is
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  Speaker 1: warm at the thought that, yes, like you said, you
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  Speaker 1: had America's birthday, your birthdays tomorrow, my birthdays the week
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  Speaker 1: after the Monday after. We've got football starting next month. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be so much fun. But I did like you.
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  Speaker 1: I have all of my digits as I look, I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that. Thank goodnes uh y'all
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  Speaker 1: In the comments section, hopefully all of y'all were safe
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  Speaker 1: and enjoyed your holiday. I've got some we're gonna jump off,
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  Speaker 1: and of course start with the Naggy deal because everybody's
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  Speaker 1: talking about it. It happened right before the holiday, so
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  Speaker 1: everybody's now getting off their firing off their hot takes
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  Speaker 1: hot takes over the last year, over the last few days,
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  Speaker 1: and but it was it was very interesting me because
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  Speaker 1: when I listened to him and then I saw all
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  Speaker 1: of the naysayers on the socials. Cool, I don't really
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  Speaker 1: think people actually heard what he said, Like, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like so many people missed the words. I'm gonna play
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  Speaker 1: it for you all so you can hear it. But
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  Speaker 1: I feel like so many people missed it. Am Am
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  Speaker 1: I crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Let's let's just let's just roll it, because uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I I feel like people hear certain things
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  Speaker 2: and that's just a human nature situation. You're looking for
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  Speaker 2: something you want, you want to be able to go
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  Speaker 2: have that argument. But you know what, let's let's just
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  Speaker 2: roll that beautiful bean footage and then we'll kind of
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  Speaker 2: we'll kind of chat about it.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to value it just like we would in
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  Speaker 4: the National Football League, and that's where you find your value.
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  Speaker 4: What we saw this spring, which I think was a
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  Speaker 4: really good way to do it, is we graded the
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  Speaker 4: players on our new scale, and then when you get
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  Speaker 4: to ov season is when you see where you can
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  Speaker 4: get value, right, Because I think what's going to set
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  Speaker 4: the market for a lot of these players in terms
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  Speaker 4: of what they're being paid and what agents expect to
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  Speaker 4: be paid is the star system, right, I think five
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  Speaker 4: stars will want to get paid like five stars. So
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  Speaker 4: when you get into the OV season, we might have
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  Speaker 4: the same grade on a five star and a guy
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  Speaker 4: that's a three star. And when you look at where
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  Speaker 4: they're taking their ovs to, if they're going to Ohio
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  Speaker 4: State in Oregon and Texas and Texas A and M,
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  Speaker 4: that's going to be a certain market, right right. But
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  Speaker 4: then if the same graded player is getting offers from
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  Speaker 4: some group of five schools, we know what direction we're
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  Speaker 4: probably going to go because you're looking for that value.
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  Speaker 4: If you look at National Football League rosters and dig
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  Speaker 4: back into their high school backgrounds, man, that league is
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  Speaker 4: litter with two and three star players, So they're out there.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Again, it's just we need to identify those guys and
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  Speaker 4: you know, trust our evaluations. So that's that's really not
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  Speaker 4: to share too much of the trade secrets there.
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  Speaker 1: But that's how that was from the triple option over
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  Speaker 1: a K t U l up there in Tulsa. And
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  Speaker 1: this is what I think people heard in their mind, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma's not gonna recruit highly toted players whatsoever. They're only
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  Speaker 1: gonna go after value. And so because They're only gonna
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  Speaker 1: go after value. You'll never see Oklahoma recruit high four
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  Speaker 1: or five star ever again, Coop, is that what you
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  Speaker 1: heard too?
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  Speaker 2: No, that is not what I heard. That is not
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  Speaker 2: what I heard, because he actually said, you get your
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  Speaker 2: early evals and then when you get into OV season
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  Speaker 2: and you start seeing the shenan again start happening, you
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  Speaker 2: start looking at at grades and you know I said it,
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  Speaker 2: and you know we we love the recruiting services. We
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  Speaker 2: love everybody over at two, four seven, Uh, the new
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  Speaker 2: combo between you know, rivals and on three. But those
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  Speaker 2: guys are doing the best job that they can potentially
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  Speaker 2: do based off of you know, I guess a layman's
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  Speaker 2: capability to to add stars. Jim Naggy. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: guy was putting folks in the league. He was running
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  Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl, he was running the Patriots, he ran
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks and Jay I'm searching. Uh, he won some
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowls, right, So he did it well. And I
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  Speaker 2: would just say that if Jim Naggy goes and he
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  Speaker 2: looks at a body, at a three star guy, and
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  Speaker 2: he sees the same type of you know, potential, the
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  Speaker 2: same pathway as a five star guy, why would you
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  Speaker 2: not you know, try to have quality, you know, athletes
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  Speaker 2: up and down the roster instead of uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: blowing all of the the nil and the recruiting and
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  Speaker 2: the rev share on two or three different guys because
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  Speaker 2: you know, you saw it, you see it all throughout sports.
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  Speaker 2: Is you got to be able to have uh, you
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  Speaker 2: know what's Brent Vinables three years ago brought up quality depth.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta have the quality and competitive.
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  Speaker 1: And competitive depth. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you got to have those types of things.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you can go out and find you know,
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  Speaker 2: let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I brought up this list the other day,
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  Speaker 2: but a you know, a Hollywood Brown who was a
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  Speaker 2: three star, A Brian Asamoa who was a three star,
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  Speaker 2: h Delaney and Turner Yale who was a three star.
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  Speaker 2: Romandre Stevenson is three star. Those guys are all NFL guys.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure that there's probably plenty of four
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  Speaker 2: and fives that were in front of them that didn't
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  Speaker 2: have the career that they had.
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  Speaker 1: No yet, no, a hundred percent agree with you there,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the so for me, what I heard, and
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  Speaker 1: depending on what site you looked at, like Danny Stutsman
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  Speaker 1: was a three star with ESPN and Rivals, And you're right, though,
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  Speaker 1: every there's a reason why you had four. Now it's
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  Speaker 1: really three. You have three major recruiting sites because not
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  Speaker 1: everybody can agree on everything. So everybody has an opinion,
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  Speaker 1: and there's most pools that they you know, they bounce
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  Speaker 1: off ideas off each other, and everybody's eye and evaluation
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  Speaker 1: is different. No different than the NFL. You know, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: evaluate valuation, eye is different. And so for Naggy, what
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  Speaker 1: I got out of that entire statement was is that
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  Speaker 1: when you look at a recruiting class, Coop, you look
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  Speaker 1: at a recruiting class. I don't think I've ever seen
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  Speaker 1: a single school bring in twenty five five stars. Have you?
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  Speaker 3: Uh no negative negative ghost on that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm to make sure I wasn't wasn't crazy there. That
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  Speaker 1: is what I was thinking. He was looking at of
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna put together our list of players that fits
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  Speaker 1: the trades we're looking for, and then we're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: after We're gonna look for those values on top of
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  Speaker 1: everything else they're recruiting, like the value component. This is
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  Speaker 1: why he said he didn't give about all the trade
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  Speaker 1: secrets because the value is on top of what they're
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  Speaker 1: already doing. Because think about it, one player that we
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  Speaker 1: are heavy and the trenches in right now is Jake
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  Speaker 1: Cruel and Jake, if I'm correct, as a very high
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  Speaker 1: four and five star depending on the service, Oklahoma's not
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  Speaker 1: bending the knee. They're not bowing out of that situation whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: Because they want Jake. It's five star. That's a player
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  Speaker 1: that they want. You had five star Michael Sussi last
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  Speaker 1: class with a very high four star Ryan Foje, So
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to get another five star tackle
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  Speaker 1: right behind them because those dudes are gonna start probably
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  Speaker 1: for two straight years once they get out there. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of the five you know, your big offensive lineman
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  Speaker 1: want to play immediately. But what I saw and heard
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  Speaker 1: from him and him saying that is now you gotta
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  Speaker 1: go find the value players because since you can't bring
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  Speaker 1: in twenty five five stars, especially rev Share, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: balance your roster out. So you're gonna have to go
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  Speaker 1: out to some of the fours and some of the
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  Speaker 1: threes and find those. Find another are Mason Thomas, you
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  Speaker 1: gotta find yourself another Jade and Jackson to add to
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  Speaker 1: the mixed guys that can play that also aren't going
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  Speaker 1: to be your top in costs. Why because when they
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  Speaker 1: go out there and play well like a Jay and Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: you see, you get a pay raise our maison, Thomas,
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  Speaker 1: guess what happens, You get a pay raise. And that's
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  Speaker 1: because once the performance the field happens, you gotta retention roster.
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  Speaker 1: Retention is just as important as acquisition. Now, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of fans understand that part.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you could even parallel parallel that to you know,
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  Speaker 2: a sales career is a lot of people like that
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  Speaker 2: new business, that new seale, that new client. But keeping
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  Speaker 2: your book of business, you know, int keeping those folks
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  Speaker 2: happy is good.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to point out two things Jay.
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  Speaker 2: Number one is if you do have you know, a
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  Speaker 2: couple of cycles in a row to where you got
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  Speaker 2: four and five star guys high five star guys. We
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  Speaker 2: saw a situation you know, happened this past year to
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  Speaker 2: where somebody comes in as a five star and doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get to see.
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  Speaker 3: The field as much.
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  Speaker 2: And when you are getting play, you know, playing bas
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  Speaker 2: incentive and production incentive raises and drops it. Those people
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  Speaker 2: aren't going to stay happy if they come in as
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  Speaker 2: a five star and they got that five star money,
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  Speaker 2: they don't get a chance to see the field because
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  Speaker 2: there's people out in front of them. Then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, you got to go to that person say,
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  Speaker 2: hey man, you know we're we're handing out, you know,
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  Speaker 2: incentives based off production on the field. I understand that
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  Speaker 2: you did not get a chance to do as much
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  Speaker 2: as you thought, but those tough conversations happen. And what
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  Speaker 2: happens at that point do you still feel good about
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  Speaker 2: your recruiting rankings from the year before or are you
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  Speaker 2: now panicking because now you're paying you know, four or
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  Speaker 2: five different dudes starter money and there ain't four or
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  Speaker 2: five different dudes doing starting And then the other point,
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  Speaker 2: Jane and he snuck it in there, sneaky little niggy.
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  Speaker 2: He kind of yeah, yeah, just snuck it right in there,
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  Speaker 2: he said. The agents. And that's another big thing is
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  Speaker 2: those agents are not going to give up. They want
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  Speaker 2: to see their money increase. And so if you have
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  Speaker 2: an agent and you know, we can we can point
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  Speaker 2: at something that happened this past weekend, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with a specific uh you know, five star commitment, but
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  Speaker 2: you have these agents who they It's not like the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: These it is the wild wild West.
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  Speaker 2: Still at this point on what agents are actually taking,
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  Speaker 2: you know, as far as money goes, they're doing all
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  Speaker 2: the work right, and so they're going out and they're
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  Speaker 2: getting this money. Well, those agents are going to be
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  Speaker 2: the ones handling the conversations week in and week out. Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we want to get our incentives. We want
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  Speaker 2: to get this, we want to get this, we want
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  Speaker 2: to get this. And it's still on the player. And
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  Speaker 2: so until there are a lot more I guess rules
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  Speaker 2: and guidelines and just acceptable practices for the agents, these
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  Speaker 2: agents are going to keep on pushing and pushing and
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  Speaker 2: pushing for more and more and more and more and
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  Speaker 2: more money. And so if you've got a five star
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  Speaker 2: like a Felix, you know, uh Ojo who just committed
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  Speaker 2: to UH Texas Tech, that guy is going to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: basically asked for a guaranteed contract when the last time
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  Speaker 2: that we saw him he was getting manhandled by pretty
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  Speaker 2: much everybody at the rivals camp. And so if you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna go out as a school and say sure, I'm
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  Speaker 2: giving you three years guaranteed money, it's just not a
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  Speaker 2: good place for your program to be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So in his defense, I don't think he asked
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  Speaker 1: for a guaranteed contract. I think Texas Tech walked in
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  Speaker 1: with the guaranteed contract, and so I will defend the
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  Speaker 1: player on that one only because Texas Tech is trying
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  Speaker 1: to make splashes. We saw that with Kennedy on the
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  Speaker 1: softball side. You're starting to see it now with some
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  Speaker 1: of these players that they're going after. You saw it
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  Speaker 1: with oh the wide receiver that transferred out and transferred
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  Speaker 1: right back in, Michael Hudson, he left and then came
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  Speaker 1: right back. You see that. You see that with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of those where some of these bit some of
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  Speaker 1: these schools that do have enough money are going to
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  Speaker 1: make a splash jump. Syracuse is doing it right now.
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  Speaker 1: You know they're gonna go after and git themselves one
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  Speaker 1: or two really big name players and then feel their
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  Speaker 1: rosters from there. There's a comment in here about Oklahoma
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  Speaker 1: being broke, and that's not true. Oklahoma's not broke. Oklahoma
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  Speaker 1: has spent plus they're in the SEC, so redshare wise,
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  Speaker 1: they've got just as much money as every other school
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  Speaker 1: out there. We also hired one of the bigger front offices,
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  Speaker 1: because the one thing you have with revshare is you
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  Speaker 1: can't you you can't technically, oh, go over the cap
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  Speaker 1: once you allocate that amount. I think there's a percentage
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  Speaker 1: you're only allowed to go to football or whatnot. And
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma's gonna do the maximum amount. You still got to
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  Speaker 1: stand to your cap. Just like in the NFL. Like
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  Speaker 1: the NFL has a hard cap. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: people knew that, but the NFL has a hard cap,
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  Speaker 1: so once you hit that number, you can't pass it.
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  Speaker 1: They also have a floor, uh, just like with like
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  Speaker 1: the NBA's is a little bit more complex because they've
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  Speaker 1: got luxury tax and then they've got a couple of
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  Speaker 1: aprons where they find you for going too high. But
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  Speaker 1: the big thing with them is they're the The NBA's
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  Speaker 1: cap hits you into the luxury tax, so once you
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  Speaker 1: pass that number, you're gonna start getting taxed extra a
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  Speaker 1: dollar for dollar or two two for one or three
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  Speaker 1: for one once you go over that number. To keep things,
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  Speaker 1: try to keep things as competitive as possible with the
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  Speaker 1: smaller roster, but the NFL it's a hard cap. That's
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  Speaker 1: why you see good players leave NFL teams and go
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  Speaker 1: other places sometimes because teams are like, I gotta decide
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  Speaker 1: to pay MC quarterback, who's taking the majority of this cap?
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  Speaker 1: Can I afford these all four of these big time
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  Speaker 1: defensive linemen. We're gonna go get some young ones. So
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  Speaker 1: then they start to see you start to see that attrition. So, no,
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma has the money. Again, they choose where they're spending it.
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  Speaker 1: Because if there's one thing that Brent Vinnibles has preached
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  Speaker 1: a lot of, and he said it you recruit your
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  Speaker 1: own problems. And he had the luxury at Clemson to
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  Speaker 1: where it was a lot easier for him to get
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  Speaker 1: a lot of big time players. Hell Obama had that
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  Speaker 1: same thing. They had it easy to get players to
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  Speaker 1: come there because they were taking a discount to play
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  Speaker 1: for a specific coach. Now Oklahoma has to prove that,
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  Speaker 1: which the defense is starting to show it. They're proving that,
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  Speaker 1: oh you know we can. We are where our defense
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  Speaker 1: is improving at the levels should now granted, look at
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  Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. I promise you they
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  Speaker 1: spent for Jaye not they spent heavily v Geometerier. Those
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  Speaker 1: were not cheap acquisitions. Please, no, don't get it twisted.
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  Speaker 1: But Oklahoma saying I don't know about it on these
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  Speaker 1: high school kids yet, I kind of agree most of
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  Speaker 1: y'all and those that are complaining about what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: in the comments right now, y'all are the same ones
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  Speaker 1: that complain with the player doesn't perform, why are we
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  Speaker 1: paying them all his money? Ain't performing?
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  Speaker 2: First, that's the first thing out is how many of
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  Speaker 2: you guys thought that Jackson Arnold was worth the money
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  Speaker 2: that he was showing out last year?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: It's the guy is now in a quarterback battle with
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  Speaker 2: a freshman and another transfer guy over at Auburn. And
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this is is you go look at the
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  Speaker 2: money that MATERI pooled, the money that we gave ought
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  Speaker 2: the money.
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  Speaker 3: That's if Asussi saw those guys.
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  Speaker 2: Those are not and even some of our recent commitments,
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  Speaker 2: these guys aren't taking pay cuts to come here. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you're telling me that we're going to get a four
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  Speaker 2: star at tackling Deacon Schmidt, who is going to come
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  Speaker 2: in and have you know, Alabama and an in state
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  Speaker 2: Colorado and then he's going to come to a six
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  Speaker 2: and seventeen for pennies. No, I mean we paid for him.
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  Speaker 2: They saw a value and they assigned it based on
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: a value. You saw it with you know, Super Bowl
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: champion Philadelphia Eagles.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: They lost players off their team. You know, we're we're
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: really really lucky here with the thunder because everybody is
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: extremely young. But typically that's not what happens after the championship.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Guys want to get paid. Guys want to get that money,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: and they're going to take more money. They've got the championship.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: They think that it's in their pedigree to go you want,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I can go do this somewhere else too and make
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: more money.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: So you'll see.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of guys this year who
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: are going to be getting you know, good money, and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: you don't get a guy like uh, you know, Domic
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Williams to come back, you know, and go another year.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: You don't get guys like ar Mason Thomas to come
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: back and go another year Danny Stutsman last year because
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you don't have the money to pay them.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: That's just kind of ludicrous, right.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Remember So twenty fourteen NCAA financials revenue and expenses by school,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Where do you think Oklahoma ranked in the country.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with number thirteen.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Ooh close, number ten in the country. Now number seven
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: in the SEC because a lot of SEC schools got money.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma's number ten in revenue in the country, number ten,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: and how much money they bring in. I want to
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: let let's pause on that. Let let's let that sing
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. And this was at the Big twelve. This
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: was before they got into the SEC. This was at
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the Big twelve. So here's your top tens, you know what.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Let me show it too, because I know that some
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: people are more visual children and they need to be
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: able to see this to really understand and ford to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: really sink in. All right, so that one is not
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the right size. There we go, all right. Number one
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: is Ohio state to Texas three, Bama four, Michigan five,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Georgia six, LSU seven, Texas A and M eight, Florida nine,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: penn State, number ten Oklahoma hundred and seventy seven million
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: dollars total revenue. And as a nonprofit organization, they spent
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: all the money like they're supposed to without allocating it
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to other stuff, because they have other things that they
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: use to allocate things. But this is all from the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: public records of money coming in money going out. Oklahoma
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: has money, Oklahoma has access to money. Oklahoma's people that
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: willing to spend money, but they also just don't like
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to frivolously spend. That's the thing about it. Put it
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to you this way. Ohio State historically good, Michigan pretty
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: much historically good. I don't think Michigan spent anywhere near
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: what Ohio State spent to win the winning their national championship.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But you know, besides that, Alabama, I'll tell you during
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: during Saban's era, they weren't spending. And I know they
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: weren't spending because that's when Nick Saban went to the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: boosters and was making comments about other schools and spending money.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all recall that, but that really
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: wasn't a Nick Saban crying to the NCAA to do
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: something about A and M and you know, A and
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: M getting like eight or nine five stars and then
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: all of them transferred out. But that wasn't Saban's saying that,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you know, the nca needs to do something about it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: That was saving at booster events, saying hey, look we
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: need to go ahead and bring in the we start
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: bringing more money into YNIL you boosters, have got the money,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: bring some more in. This is what's most important right now,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: so go ahead and do that. But the good thing
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: for him was is that it was still Nick Saban.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Because Nick Saban was still getting a Nick Saban discount,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: players will come in to play for him. Georgia has
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: that as well. Georgia spends, but Georgia also gets a
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: lot of kids go there because they want to go
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: to Georgia. You're seeing in the Florida schools they're starting
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to up what they're spending because they're trying to compete.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: But until you're winning Natties, all that spending becomes friendous,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: right like to me, If you put together, If Oklahoma
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: continues to put together and play out this top potentially
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: top ten defense again with an offense to help compliment that,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma has a chance to make the playoffs, be very competitive,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and then you're gonna see a lot of changing in
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the recruiting from there. Right now, kids want to see
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: what this team's gonna do. They want to see if
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Brent Vinim was going to be here next year, which
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: he's going to be here next year, guys, I'm sorry,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get us five years. That's what's most important.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: They want to see it. Yeah, that's it, and that
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and that and that it happens to you. That's how
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: negative recruiting happens when you have bad years. Just got
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to fix it.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: And I and I would also say this is.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: You look, I mean everybody you know, it's the recency bias.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And everybody wants to get really hung up and say, yeah,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: but this offense was X y Z last year. How
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: many years, you know, in a row have we had
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: things like that happened? How many years total have we
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: had things like that happened where you lose uh, two
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: position groups. Essentially, you got guys who we already knew
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: that it was going to be what you know, going
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: into last year, we were going to go as far
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: as Jackson Arnold and that offensive line that lost so
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: much was going to take us. And then what happens
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: before you even kick off a game. You're rotating dudes
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: playing guys where they shouldn't be playing. You're asking a
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: guy who new to come in and be the anchor
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: of your offensive line in a different position. You got
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: guys like Jacob Sexton, which, man, I can tell you
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: this is you know we brought this up on the
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: show multiple times. Is you know I talked to his
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: dad beforehand, and I let him know how much I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: was appreciative of him and his family and what they
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: were doing for the university, because that guy should have
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: been setting himself up for an NFL career last year,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: not bouncing around left and right, playing injured, just doing
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: whatever he could to help the team just get through
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: to the next week, you know. So there's there's there
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: is a lot that you know, if you are gunshy
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: because of last year and you maybe are confused about
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you know, his Brent Vinable's the right guy. He was
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: brought in to make this team not look embarrassing on defense,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and you may be able to say, sure, I don't
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: think that OU was as good as everybody says they
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: were on defense last year. I won't even argue with that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: But were we embarrassing on defense last year?
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Jay?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Oh? No, we were exactly what we wanted to be
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and not embarrassing. That was the one thing that I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: was very happy about. It sucked that the offense forgot
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: how to play, but I think that I think that
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: this squad is going to figure that part out. That's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the one thing I am happy about. I do believe
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: we'll figure out all of that on that component of it.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: And if there's one place I think we'll figure it
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: out on which we have a whole bunch of is
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be these wide receivers, Like I am really excited
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: about seeing what Satannia does to go with Dion Burks, Like,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: he's probably the one guy that I think we don't
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: talk enough about. You want me to be on percent,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: He's probably the dude that we we have not dug
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: deep into. He's the talent that I feel like he's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: He's gonna surprise a lot of people this year.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think Satania is going to be pushed in
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: a thousand yards. I don't think he's gonna be pushing
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: seventy five catches. But I you know, I think that
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: this entire group is going to have guys to where
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: it's the opposite.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Of what we saw last year.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: When you got nothing to offer from anywhere throughout the field,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you go find the only threat and you clam down
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: on that threat. It was not you know, our offense
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: did not threaten you know, for explosive runs.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: We did not.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: We did not threaten for explosive plays downfield, and so
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: everybody played in a phone booth all year last year. Well,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: now you're going to be bringing in the Gibsons, Jamichael Carter,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: you know, Burks is going to be back, sataniah Elijah
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Thomas who again people people start getting on that train
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and they forget about him because his freshmen and we
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: haven't seen him yet. But we're going to have I mean,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I would say that we're going to have seven or
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: eight wide receivers that are going to be able to
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: give you a bevy of different looks and different opportunities.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: And Jay I just feel like it it would go.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I'd be remiss to not say, like, when you have
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator who actually knows what the hell he's doing,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that's probably gonna help too.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: That's probably the biggest part there, right is is we
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: put our guys in a very bad position with the unfortunate,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you know, oc situation we had before, and we learned
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: our lesson. How do we learn our lesson? We said,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna go a hango, get a
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: guy that can bring a guy with him that understands
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: what to do and let those dudes go do their thing.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: And I believe that. I believe that mate is that dude.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: The one thing that considered too when it comes to
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: how this offense will look completely different compared to last year,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Coop is these guys have been together three years. This
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: is going on his third year. Remember Matier was there
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: with cam Ward and when cam Ward's first year, when Gosh,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I can't think of the OC's name. Now he's the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: head coach down there was it Texas State or North Texas?
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: One of the two? Uh not not gj Kin, I
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: think he's at North Texas. Gotta look it up. But anyway,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Mattier jumped from one O seed to the next OC
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: with cam Ward and then he's stuck here with our buckle.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: So now you've got a combination of a dude that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: knows the system. This will be like Dylan Gabriel was
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: when he came. And I know a lot of people
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: weren't the fondest of DG. But DG did a lot
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of winning for us. Yeah, and my guy feels still
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and his preview book he has Oklahoma his finishing the
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: season top ten. He says, this is the playoff roster
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: in his eyes. And the last time Phil had Oklahoma
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: as his most improved and it's one of his top
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: two surprising teams. We won ten games in the regular season.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: So I kind of believe what Phil sees and how
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: he feels about MATERII because he thinks Materia is gonna
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: walk in and he's gonna he's gonna cook in the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: sec Uh. We've got a couple of really tough rosters
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: we're gonna see. But I don't think it's gonna be
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that bad. It's it's I think this dude's going to
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: surprise everybody. The hype is real. And as for a reason,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: let's just put it that way.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: It's it is.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: And if you're wondering, oh yeah, how does Jemeterier factor in,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you know, we've we can continue to point out all
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the stuff. I think that a lot of you guys
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: in here, you know, feel the same way. And you've
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: you've listened to us when we're talking about uh, you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: he played several you know, decent defenses.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Last year.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Cam Ord went down to Miami and you know, same
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: type of path and went down to Miami and his
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: offense was never in question. If anything, that defense down
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: in Miami probably what held them back in a lot
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: of errors. Uh Jeometier, what what was it? I saw
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: recently that he is up up north of two twenty
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: as far as weight wise goes. So he knows that
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: he is in for a different type of physical challenge
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: this year, and he has been putting in the time
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: in the weight room. He's never had a strength and
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: conditioning program like he has this year. He has never had,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I guess the tools around him that he has this year.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Do I fully believe that you put ma Tier on
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: this team last year, it's worth two more wins. You
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: put them on this team this year with some of
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the assets and the tools. Who are you going to
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you know, if you line up what is Illinois State
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: week one?
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Who are they keying in on? On offense? They got
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: no film on anybody.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: And then what's Michigan gonna do week two? They're going
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: to look at basically a live scrimmage from the week before,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and there's gonna be guys all over the place. And
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: we saw what Dion Burks could do even with Jackson
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Arnold at the helm in you know, in week one
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: last year, And so I Listen, I am.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: If you want to call me a sunshine pumper, Listen,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: it's July and that's what that's when the sun shines
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: is right now.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: But I hit his hot outside. But I will say.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: This is, uh, you know, my my prediction for this
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: this season. It does I'm not taken any you know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: there's nothing I've seen that makes me go, well maybe there.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I think this is a ten win team. I think
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: this team is going to be in the playoffs, and
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I think that there's going to be a lot of
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: people going, what the hell is going down in Norman.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: You guys, you're here early. You guys are knowing what's
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: going on. You're you're seeing what's going on. And you're
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: going to also see a lot of guys on the
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: defensive side.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: You know, we said it going into the beginning of
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the year last year. I think that there's more talent
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: on the backups than there were on the starters on
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: defense going into year last year. Now you've got guys
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: like Reggie Powers, who is now in year two and
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: he is looking like himself. He looks like he is
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: going to have an absolute unleashed year. And I'm not
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: just saying that because his pops isn't there exactly. You've
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: got guys like Kendall Daniels is damn mutant that has
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: got a six', five you, know mid two hundred pounds
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: due just floating around in.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: The middle of the middle of the. Line Marvin Jones.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Junior It's i'm. Excited this is like, Again i'm very
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: very glad that It's july and this is the last
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: month Without sooner.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Football, yeah and that might. BE i Think daniels could
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: be Bv's Isaiah. Simmons he's been looking for. ONE i
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: think the sign McCullough that was who they hoped was
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: gonna be The Isaiah simmons. Robe but mcculla's more of,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: all he's more of an edge outside linebacker edge, type
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: like he's more of a pass. Rusher he's not really
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the coverage. Guy he's not really the is it Coverage
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: he's Not he's not really someone THAT i, mean he'll
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: run top to run at the line of, scrimmage but,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: yeah he's not chasing running, backs you, know in the.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Flat that's not that's just not where his skill set,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: is WHICH i think mccaulla's gonna be fine up there In.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: NEBRASKA i just wish we could have leveraged him like that.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: More but at the same, time we still got a
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of, edges, army some toimes, Cooking so it's
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: kind of hard to play him over our, mason and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: our mason's doing. It and at the same, time mcculor
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: was dealing with injuries because everybody kep chopping him because
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of how big he. Is, yeah on that, edge he
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: was dealing with a lot of adverse in that. Capacity but,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: no you're, right because if you go back and listen
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to us talking about last, year And i've had a
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: few people ask me about. THAT i was pointing out
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: to people that the thing that worried me for last,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: year and we said. It you, know there's more questions
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: than there were actual. Concerns and the big questions, were
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: you got a young quarterback with a young offensive, line
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: but you're hoping that your skills guys running back some
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: wide receivers are the ones that can help to create
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: enough time and be able to create a little bit
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: of comfort for. That, well you didn't get. That the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: offensive line stayed injured and the wide receiver state. Injured
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: so everything that we said needed to happen in order
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: for the offense to be any good didn't. Happen that
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: was kind of an accurate prediction on our. Part we
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: leaned in heavily on you got young, guys you gotta
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: need you gonna need the veterans to save. You, well
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: this year we went to worry about. That the offensive
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: line is actually gonna be a lot more veteran because
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: they got their tail kick and they understood what to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: do to get better in THE sec and they played
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: a lot better in the games when you know they
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: weren't falling. Apart but then you bring in two big
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: boys With assusi And, FOJE i think there's gonna be
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: your saving graces. There those are gonna be the ones
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: that are gonna help. Out But i'll get off that.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Soapbox this year is. Different you now have a quarterback
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: who's one of the best in the country and. Scoring
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: he found ways to do. It, carol what you say
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: about we played against he played against when the pack
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: was actually really. GOOD i think that material is gonna.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: SHOCK i mean Cam war went over To miami and
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: shut it down and went number. ONE i Don't i'm
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: not Saying mae's gonna end up number, one BUT i
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: think that material has the skill set to be able
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to be at up there in that. Conversation but then
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: you Got jay AND i WHICH i think is the
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: one that we've talked about Him, coop but we haven't
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: talked a lot about. HIM i think he's gonna end
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: up being THE x. Factor and THEN espn dropness jumping
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to this one talking about the sleepers for each, College
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: oklahoma has one had the sleeper For, oklahoma which they have.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Him they Have oklahoma twenty fifth in the country right.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Now the Sleeper Zion. Kearney that's the one THAT espn
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: thinks he's gonna be the sleeper player on this. Roster,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: REMEMBER i mean he's six six,' one. HE'S legitimate i
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: know he's over. TWO hundred i think he's probably close to.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Do ten he looks like, he's big but when he
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: was AT the tcu camp he ran a four two.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Eight forty now he has a QUARTERBACK that i think
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: can overthrow him and now he just need him to.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Catch it think he's gonna end up being that dude that,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: steps up especially even With The gibson boys coming Back
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And dion Bergs and satania being. OUR favorites i think
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: he's gonna. BE that i think he really is gonna be.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: That sleeper it's going to really jump out and cause problems.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: This Year it and here's the, THING is i think
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: that you get a. Holistic approach, you know if you
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: don't have threats at the, running back if you have
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: issues at, the quarterback if you have issues at the,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: offensive line that receiver crew is really plagued by all.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Of that and, you know it is the chicken of.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: The egg, you know do you throw the throw to
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: loosen up the run game or you run to loosen
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: up the. PASSING game i Think that jade and not
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: being a guy that is coming in and looks like
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: he could be, that explosion you know at running back
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: that we have not SEEN in i mean Since. Maybe mixing,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: you know we've had. Good Guys kennedy brooks was just
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: a he just ran with a specific pace and he
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: just had a certain way. About him but, you know
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: there has been a lot of Injuries With gavin Sawchuk And,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: javonte barnes and it's really really been hard to kind
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: of lay in and depend. On somebody but when you
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: got Guys like tatum And ex rob, and listen don't
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: don't get don't be too surprised if we don't see
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: A little blaylock, popping in because that dude is starting
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: TO look i don't want to throw out, specific names
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: but he looks as a Freshman what ad looked like as,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: a freshman, you know in.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: That mold not Exactly.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Like Ad and i'm not saying that he's going to
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: go run for nineteen twenty five as, a freshman but
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: we have the options at running back that are actually, looking,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: really really.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Really good and.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: What that HAPPENED when i bring, this up is you
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: have that you have the. Quarterback run you have the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: capability FROM an, oc standpoint that you're going to be
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: able to scheme these wide receivers into using the assets that.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: They have, you know we saw so many times last
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: year that we saw a great receiver or like a
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: rageings going out there and running like like you got
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a ten year old playing a video game, out there
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: trying to make him do stuff that he's just not built.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: To do and there was a lot of, you know
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of confusion when it came time
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: to the. Wide RECEIVERS and i think that when you
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: have this entire offense that is going to be able
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: to live off of each other and build off of.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Each other a guy Like, a satania a guy like d,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: You Know. Dion burks, you know tell me this after
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: watching the first couple of quarters in, you know last Year,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: versus temple how many of, us were, you, Know going,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: holy hell this guy's gonna have twenty touchdowns. This YEAR
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: so i would just say this is the offense as
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: a unit is going to be much, more complimentary and
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: it's going to allow Guys Like john kerney.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: To be who he.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Can be it's going to allow Guys Like, Satannia Burks.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Jamichael CARTER like, I said i think that there's gonna
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: be seven or eight guys this year who act actually
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: have a very, very big, you know impact on this
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: team as a. Wide receiver and that doesn't even throw
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: in what you could potentially get out of the, tight
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: ends because, you know we Were Asking bauer sharp to
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: do a Lot of superman stuff and He. Wasn't superman
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: He Was jimmy olsen and you're asking him to get.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Out there AND so, I mean i really do think
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: that that's gonna. Be, it also when your offense has,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: some capability your defense. Gets Rest and i've heard that
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: that's good for. A defense just just just was reading,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: the TWITTERS but i heard that if you don't have,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: to play, you know ninety snaps, on defense while your offense,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: you know plays eleven, you know and gives the ball
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: back every other every, Other, touch like the defense gets chance,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: To rest you get to rotate, Guys in you get
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: to coach guys up instead of them having to run
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: right back out on. The, field again because we are
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: just really really not good.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: On, offense yeah we.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Were, pretty awful like. Legitimate awful but difference is too,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Is again we'll we'll Have SOME we've i feel like
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: we've got better teachers for in the, passing game AND
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and ej is really going to be able to lean
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: in on getting his guys to where he wants him.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: To be he's got veterans that will execute the way
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: he needs him, to execute and the young guys be
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: able to. Follow suit that to me is where you
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: get that and making the, right reads making the, right
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: passes getting rid of the ball when you need to
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: get rid of. The ball that's those are big. Difference
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: maker those are big deals when it comes to when
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: it when it comes to executing on. Your offense, and,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: so yeah, YOU'RE right I think current's gonna. STEP out
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: i do think that we'll Hear About elijah thomas throughout.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: THE year i think he et gets some run and
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: if he keeps, showing out he may fight for some.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: More GAME but i do want to say, this though
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: with bv's confidence On the gibson boys being back here in,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the fall don't be surprised to hear them both potentially
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: being out There For. Illinois state it's probably the best
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: game to get them some some routes in or at
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: least have them out there. Warming up michigan's probably. THE
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: game i know, that one if not both should. Be
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: playing and if We get giovanni Back and. Jaden back
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: with how deep the room is this year in comparison
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: as far as, health wise because everybody else for the,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: most part quote unquote K Not on. Wood's healthy you've Got,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Count as lewis, Is Healthy zion kearney, Is healthy burke's
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: as Well as. Satania healthy, you know it's Really just Giovanni,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and jacob, You know carryon's. OUT there, i mean you
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: go with the, freshman, too boy you't even. Mention them,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: everybody else for the, most part is ready.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: To.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: GO now i don't KNOW About kJ Daniels Or. ZION
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: raging i haven't seen or heard much about them besides,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: you know seeing them do some, routes OCCASIONALLY and I
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: know bv talked. About it but for the, most part
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: a room is way healthier than. It was we don't
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Have Anybody jane Gibson's You're andrew anthony from. Last year
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: he's the one that's coming in from an injury from the.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Post here that's. Really it and Then with giovanni's injury
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: being not as Serious, As kendall Adobie's and. DOBIE's, BACK
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: yeah i think we're right to see that. Room go
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: but when it comes to recruiting on, THAT one i
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: wanted to jump in that real quick and put the.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Bow on the naggy component of it is we got
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of, wide, RECEIVERS man.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I went and were, missing, GUYS miss, i mean you're.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Missing guys.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: You didn't we keep On Forgetting, Countes lewis we keep
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: on forgetting Even A jacob jordan who actually showed out and, was,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: LIKE hey i can play out. HERE too, I Mean
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: jacob jordan did a lot of HISSED against, sec competition
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: and now he's a year further into, the system he's
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: gonna year.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: More MATURE so, i, MEAN yeah i think that you're
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: where you're going, With this.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Jay is you got a lot of dudes, right now
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna be able to show a lot of
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: productivity to some of these guys who want, you, know again.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: It's there it's.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Their life and it's, their livelihood and you need to
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: see something because that negative. Recruiting, around uh, you know
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: you could, go THERE but i mean you're just gonna
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: ride the pine because they can't seem to get their guys.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Healthy, right yeah you Had Your michael, carter also who just.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Came in, So yeah i'm gonna. Say this you've got
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: about six DUDES that i know will be. Rotating Heavily,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: jermichael carter Both The, Gibson, Boys Keantes, Lewis, ion KEARNEY
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and i expect a Lot Out elijah thomas and that's your.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Outside guys then You got burke's as Well as satana
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: rotating basically your. Interior guys you'll probably See Some, Jacob
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Jordan josiah martin who also. Transferred in we's got a
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: lot of. Wide RECEIVERS like i went in HERE and
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: i did the math. On, it man we for real,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: got like let me see? What's this? What's this we
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: got seventeen wide receivers and we only have two that
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: are actually leaving after. This year, Three TECHNICALLY but i
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Don't Think major melson's gonna. PLAY much i haven't seen
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: him this ever besides on. Special Teams But keantes Lewis
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And dion berg's are your two red, shirt seniors so
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: they're the ones that will. Be bouncing so when it
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: comes to the, recruiting component you may want to go
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: try to get three. WIRE receivers, i mean You Got
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: danny odum already top one, hundred guy so you've. Got
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: him that's always, a plus and it sounds like he's
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: hardcore in like. He's sold so you Got With daniel oldham,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: being here you need to you probably need to add
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: two more, wire receivers maybe, one more because then at
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the same time we're probably gonna go shop in the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: portal and get another young wide receiver that we have
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to see potential with someone we mayby we talked to in.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: The past, For Example josiah martin. Is one, you know
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: he went OVER to cal and he looked really Good. At,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: cal yeah he's Out. Of texas he was one that
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: we kind of looked at and, was, LIKE eh i
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: don't KNOW how i feel. About, HIM well i don't
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: know if we ready if he fits what, you know
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the old regime, was doing so they didn't really. Recruit
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: him then as soon as you know that regime, was,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: gone WELL the oc you'd spend the block back. On
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: him mean you saw him PERFORM. At cal y'all See what.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I'm Saying what i'm not downplaying anybody's concerns around, the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Recruiting but i'm pointing out that you got two places
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: to get players recruiting trail. TRANSFER portal, I Mean marvin
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: lewis was a former five star that was actually Looking
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: at oklahoma when he was a recruit circled the block back,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: on him and it sounds like he's actually shown that
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: he's ready to play now even at the he's Time
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: at georgia And At. Florida state so keep that in
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: mind when you think about the. Recruiting part when the
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: transfer portal, comes around you're gonna see. Some people you're gonna, be, like,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah i'm glad we got, that dude because that's
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: a DUDE that, I really i. Really wanted you may
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: see some red shirt freshmen show up out of Nowhere. That,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: oklahoma look. Everybody tampers i'm just gonna keep it. A
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: buck everybody, Does it so don't don't be surprised if
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: an agent reached it out, to, LIKE hey i have
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: a kid that will hit the transfer portal and he
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: he now thinks that he wants to come Play. At,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: oklahoma yep.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: You're Going to.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: You're gonna see a lot, of stuff you know that
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: really looks like the recruiting has, has suffered, you know.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Right now but this coaching staff feels very very good
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: about the pieces.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: And where they're where, they have, you know made the
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: splashes as of.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: This point sure do we want to would be up
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: there for their, you know for the, Bragging rights yeah.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: We do but, YOU know, i like going back into
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: the year, two thousand what are we. Looking at we're
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: dealing with the twenty. SIX class i think that we
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: have Out recruited texas three.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Times in that time Span and i've never. To happen
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of stats that.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Point Towards blue chippers, and uh, you know point towards
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: stars and stuff.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Like THAT but i agree.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: With Them just i'm just gonna just gonna throw this
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: out like it's still up to.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: The players it's still up to.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: The coaching and if you are a dude who wants
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: to get all that money right now before you've, done anything,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: you know this may be this may be a root
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: or rate awakening. For you and, you, know Again like sean,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: just said, you know after, last year you're going to
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: take a little bit of.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: A KICK but i promised you you roll in To
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: The Red, River.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Rivalry uh, you know looking at five and er, you
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: go you do something in. That game all of, a
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: sudden some other programs who are are trying to figure
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: some stuff out now that flips back.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: On them and now.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: You've got people having conversations, like hey about that offer
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: and about that. That that, you know there's a lot
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: of guys ou has been in the final final kind
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: of runs for, YOU know i think in the, long run,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: you know if you are who you are and you
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: always are, THAT Person m jay going to, your point
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: people are gonna circle back and they're and, be, like,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: HEY listen i WENT and.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I, TRIED this i took that.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: BIG payday i kind of want to do, some winning and,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: you KNOW the nfl is going to FIND and i
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: still think it is something that not any other program
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: can really. Really Do and i'm just going out on
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: a limb by, Saying, this jay but if you are
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: a player and you know that you're going to be, a,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: second third fourth round type of, a guy who Else
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Than jim naggy would you want in your corner having
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: CONVERSATIONS with nfl execs and scouts, and saying, all right
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: so this is this is who. He is they're going
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: to Listen To. Jim naggy they're gonna listen.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: To that and it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if you're a guy who starts sixty, straight
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: games where if you're a guy who just gets in
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: and plays, a lot because there have been a lot.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Of guys you can look back, at quarterbacks you can
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: look back at.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: A lot of.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Different guys when you have a good pedigree and you
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: are in a, talented LINEUP the nfl is still gonna.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Find You and i'd Rather have naggy being the one
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: pushing the buttons than some random coach who doesn't have
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: those relationships Like jim.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Naggy does and he Pointed and jimmy and pointed. That out,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: they're like if you look AROUND, the nfl you see
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: a bunch of no star up to two stars that,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you know people. Didn't notice but at the, same time
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of those players they sometimes. Developed later and
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: So Like khalil mack was probably one of my. Favorite
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: ones it's, you know he becomes a defensive player to your,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: type player but he was he it just took him
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: a while to get to. That Point aaron donald was rated.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Pretty low i'm giving you the grades for this. PARTICULAR
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: reason i don't disagree with the rating system and the
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: correlation of blue chips to competing. FOR championships, I don't.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I don't i don't NEGATE that i don't disagree. WITH
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: it i think that it's actually a very accurate because
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: it's it's, stats base it's, numbers base and it's pointing.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: It out but the thing to keep in mine with
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that component, is too as, You said coop is the.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Coaching too as, You said texas has out recruited us
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: every year roughly like since the beginning. OF time i
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: believe that's just. That's there they can. Do that they're
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: in the state where a lot of the talent, comes
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: from and they have no problems with throwing money at
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: every single person regardless of who. They are so now
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: as we're seeing, WITH like i Think the ojail situation
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: is probably the funniest uh we can talk about. THAT
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: now i think it's FUNNY because i saw So many
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: texas fans saying that he was taking money, over development
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: as if they weren't doing in THAT with, i mean
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: who Is That Justice terryce terry who literally said it
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Was then io package of why he went There over
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: georgia literally, like that, that happens and that's Nothing against
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: that's what. They do, texas can that's what. They do
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: they're gonna throw, the bags you're gonna do all. Of
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: that nothing wrong. With, that well at the, same time
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: how many semi finals wins has that gotten them? So
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: far let's keep that a buck because that's where. We
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: are we have not won in the semi finals. Out
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: either so until one of us get to pass the,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: semi finals it's not much that either one of us
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: can truly say about the. Other team get past semi,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: finals first make, it right make it out of the,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: top four, make it make it into the actual national.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Championship game then both of us can, say something but
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: either team can. Talk noise but you gotta. Do that
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: clumba went, four times did not get. Past it texas
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: has gone twice now and got. Pasted it you gotta,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: do it get. Past it. Do it but on, THAT
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: though i, DO agree i put, THIS way i don't
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: believe that crapping on the rating system is the right
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: thing to do in my personal opinion when it comes
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: to stars. And STUFF and i say that specifically because
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: all they're looking at is how these kids perform at.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: The camps they have no clue how their work ethic's
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: gonna get once they get to the. Next level we
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: have that. Same problem you get a kid in who.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: WAS that i think we had what like three or
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: four five star wide receivers at, one year and then
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: you had to kick two of them off the team
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: because of all kinds, of stuff and then you just
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: just bridges and, right, right, right, yeah yeah three. Of
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: them i'm not, gonna say, you know were missing. The
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: names i'm just gonna say that that it just didn't.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Work out that happens. A LOT like, I said A
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: and m had what seven and none of them are.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: There anymore they're all over. The place it what's what
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: it is is that it's hard to judge the character
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and the dedication you're going to get out of that
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: kid once they get onto. YOUR campus, i mean we've
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: had some four and threes that did. WAS similar i
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: mean we had a five star that unfortunately well he
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: fas start in his class but ended up being forced
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: lot when he reclassify didn't work out because of. Similar situations.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: It happened what do we have. To do we got
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: to keep hammering, on, evaluate, evaluating evaluating and hoping you.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Land out because truth, Be, told coop our retention rate
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: has been really good here At. The almends that's one
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: of the aliens in.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: The countries that's and that's, a very very big piece
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: because you got to be able to sell people on the.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Fact that there is there is.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Something, happening listen if if it was as bad as
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: it looked, last year we would have seen an exodus
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: like you've never even like you realize that we probably
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: should have lost a lot of people last year and
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: we didn't see anybody leave because they thought the ship,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: was burning that it was. Going under AND so, I mean,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I just, I mean i always put it. This way
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: you get guys to come in and a lot of
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: the star systems and everything that's based off. Of projections
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: it's based off of where. They're at we say it all.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: The Time If elijah thomas was playing DOWN, in dfw
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: the dude's a. Five star it's just. Playing simple but
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: he Played. A shakota, you know you see guys all
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: the time who come in, and like, you KNOW like,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: i said bringing up you know. Old, names here you
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: see a guy like a, You Know, kenneth murray the
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: guy LED the nfl And tackles uh the guy sorry
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: that led led the team.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: In.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Tackles uh you know he he was a First Team.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: All american this is a guy who was a. Three
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: star you're going to have dudes who come in and
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: are going to take the challenge and they're going to
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: ride it out and they're going to listen to the
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: coaching and they're going to. Become coachable and you're gonna
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: have guys who come in and they're going to think
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: that you know, the team, you know you invested, in
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: me show me the money Bringing to jerry, maguire style
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: and it's different. By program texas is always going to
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: get what they're going to get because e they're the
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: flagship school Down in texas and a lot of those
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: KIDS they, i mean they're going there as soon as
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: they as soon as they. Can walk you see STUFF
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: like i Saw The JACKSONVILLE state i See The jacksonville,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: STATE thing i See the. Syracuse thing Don't parallel oklahoma
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: recruiting to. Those situations syracuse is. Doing That georgia tech
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: did it last year with the Big offensive. Lineman two
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: they're not trying to build a. Championship program they're trying to.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Stay relevant they're trying to, say, like hey we're still
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: here and we're still, a thing and they need to.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Do that they need to drop, these massive. Massive splashes
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: syracuse isn't going to the playoffs and winning anything. This
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Year jacksonville state's not going to do any of. That
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Stuff georgia tech's not hitting the playoffs. This year those
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: things are not going, to happen but they have to
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: because you see the rich continue to get richer and
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: the blue blood programs are going to continue to be
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: the blue, Blood programs and a lot of universities are
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: operating in massive and massive amounts of fear right now
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: because you're a couple of bad decisions away from. Complete
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: irrelevance and that's a tough place. To be outside of
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: the big ten IN, the sec there's lots and lots
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: and lots of schools that are just doing anything just
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: to stay in, the mindset in the. Public's eye you're
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: going to have to see some of. These things and
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: so if, you, say well we can't get a, five
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Star But jacksonville, state can or, syracusean listen if You
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: want oklahoma to make a big splash and throw a
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: massive bag at a player so that we can feel
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: good about ourselves for about five days and point towards
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: it for the next. Several, years yeah but we got
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: that one. Five star, yeah right it. Sounds great it's
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: a different it's a. Different, game yeah.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: You want to make sure that you're making the right
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: decisions for today and potentially. Next. Season again one of
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: the bigger THINGS that i was reading some articles about
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: rosters and majority of the bigger nil packages and deals
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: for retaining their. Top players it still cracks me up,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: to HERE which i do not doubt. It whatsoever lenora
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: sellers schools hitting them, up saying hey hit, the, Portal
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: bro we'll pay you. Eight. Meal yeah all it took
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: was one year for him to, prove, That yeah i'm worth,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the money and so schools went. After it but, HE
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: decided i want to stay and finish OUT where. I
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: started FINISH out i. WAS doing i committed to. These
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: coaches they gave me, the opportunity they instilled and entrusted
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: me to go out here. And perform and, GUESS what,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I performed and now they're taking care of me and
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: allowed me to be. Out there those are the type
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: of dudes. You're chasing AND like, I said i get
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: everybody's concerns and wanting to be at the top of
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: the nump. Don't matter if it don't matter if your
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: players are leaving after a year because they they outperformed their,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: initial deal that's what. You're chasing, you're right You Have
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: dylan stewart getting offered all. KINDS stuff i know he's
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: making like two a year because of just how ridiculous
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: he was as a. True freshman that's what you're gonna
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: get imagine trying to do that four. Times over and
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: that's just the. Defensive line that's like majority OF your.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Nil package that's majority of a lot of SCHOOLS in.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: IL packages i know We spent we spent a. Lot
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: more we spent eight FIGURES in nil that people. Don't
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: realize but it was a lot of retention a lot
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: of people on, The ROSTER like, I mean i was
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: reading about, you Know Like ohio State in texas spending
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: upwards of twenty five thirty million for. THEIR rosters i
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: mean that's a big eight, figure, number right early eight
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: figure numbers. Like that we were in the early. Eight
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: figs but a lot of our problems is we were
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: paying our current players DUDES on i roster today because
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: we had a lot of guys that had a lot
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: of potential. To bounce, believe me like the whole wide
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: receiver room leaving kind of a blessing. For us we
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: kind of. Needed that we needed a refresh after everything
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: that happened. Last year he kind of need a. Refresh there,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: but yeah you spend a lot of money on. That
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: defense that defense, is expensive.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: And yes and don't think that we lost all those
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: receivers and, they're going and they're now slotted at the
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: starting position at their. Respective teams we still need to
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: see What Is andrel anthony going to?
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Look like is?
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: He back can he mentally come back from the stuff
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: that he Dealt With? Nick anderson that's a loaded room
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: and he's not running out there with the ones the
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: LAST reports i read IT, from lsu so you got
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: to kind of watch. Those things there's a lot of
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: people Who and i'm not, saying that, you, KNOW listen
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: I Wish nick anderson was still on this team fully ready.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: TO go.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: I do i Think That nick anderson has the body
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: type to be an explosive player IN. The nfl but
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: your best ability, is availability and if you can't be,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: out here your measurables don't mean a. Damn thing and,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Guess what we're still paying a dude who, can't, play
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: yeah instead of paying for somebody else who is out.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: There playing, BUT NO i, i mean so you're you're
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: starting to see, YOU know i know that we have
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: a very very close friend of, ours Here, mister slat,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: you know talking. About guys, you know there's a lot
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: of these gems that came In, like simmons if you
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: guys saw the shotgun picture of Was It, Troy everett
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Sexton and simmons From the uh you got to pull.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: That one you gotta pull that.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: One UP but, i.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Mean you have some, dudes who uh you know this
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: is a certain certain times. A night if you saw
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: those clowns just walking around in, that picture that's that's.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Not it that's not a group of guys you want
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: to walk. Up to, But uh simmons is a guy
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: who is a freaking road grader and he is what
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: is it six six six Three, forty.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah let me. Find it i'm looking for that picture,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: right now, real QUICK because i thought that was That,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: was yeah those big Boys. Are YEAH and.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: I will say to everybody thanks again for joining in with,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Us today happy Fourth of. July belated we're glad you
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: guys are all. In here, you know it's a lot
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: of a lot. Of stuff this is the this is
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: the time of the year to where you're gonna start
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: seeing some, controversial lists start hitting it up and to
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: get people all. Fired up but you're also starting to
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: see some respect.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Being paid. Oklahoma's Way uh.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Field still has some very very. Lofty expectations he's the.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Only, ONE well I see. MIKE too i think he
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: actually has but, But yeah phil does have some lofty expectations.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: For us don't. Worry out. I'm here i'm searching for
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: this PICTURE that i know we had in. THE court
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: i couldn't find it on, the SOCIALS but i know
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: it's in the DISCORD and i thought that was like inc.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Might have been taken down by. The government it.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Might have been illegal because those boys.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Are big.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Let me See where i'm not. Finding, it, sorry guys
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it's gonna come at. Some point but there's some big
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: boys reasons. To smile i'll put it. That way you
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: all will be excited to see your. Offensive Line j.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: There's also a lot of way that needs to go.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: To this.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: We just sat there and our offensive line Was the
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: scapegoat Along. With tofer it is the the the Picture,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Of sexton Simmons and everett holding. THE shotguns.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I cannot find it for the life. OF me i
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: did find the One of stone in them all the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: defensive linemen. Working, OUT gee i will show that one in.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: A second stone approaching. Three twenty did.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: You just put that? In? THERE tafer i, Appreciate, YOU
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: gosh i. Love, You slack thank you. So much someone
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: posts the uh someone posts a picture of of of
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the defensive. Line too there, we go some scary. Looking,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: DUDES man i didn't realize that that was the height
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: that we had. Going, on coop go ahead and commentate
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: on that for the people so they know what's going.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: On here.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Different LINE so, i mean right now you've got You've,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Got sexton Simmons and.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Everett here.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: You know THESE are i think what you're You're missing
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Fabichi Wee wu and, YOU KNOW i i still don't
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: know what this lineup is going to.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: LOOK like i do know that these.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Are probably three fifths of the of. The group, you
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: know you're going to see a good rotation. OF people
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: i bet you see a Lot. OF fasusi I think
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: fasusi is going to be in the. TOO DEEP i
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: i just don't. SEE how i don't see how his
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: athleticism and and you know a lot of the reports
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: and suffer from you, know spring he he is he
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: is just, a different, you know breed. Of animal he,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: he is he, is learning he's he stiesn't, even know doesn't.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: Even know what he doesn't.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Know YET but i do think that you're going, to have,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: You Know, sexton simmons and THEN probably i gotta Say
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: maybe ozeida still at the at the left Guard And
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: fabiti weewu at the. RIGHT guard I bet fasusi does
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: do a little, swing ACTION but i also think that
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: fo j you're gonna see him playing in and rotating
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: in a lot. At. Guard also, you know the one
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: THING that i really would hope to find out here
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: soon is what does the backup center situation? Look like,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: you know how serviceable is? That PERSON but, i mean
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: these are these. Are guys this is, you know each
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: one of these GUYS are i Would say section is
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: probably the. Lightest one he's probably coming in around the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: three ten ish three twelve something. LIKE that I know
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: simmons is three FORTY and I know sexton is approaching
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: the three. Thirty mark so.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Those are those are some.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Big dudes and you Also Have, logan holland who is
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: trying to approach one hundred percent right now coming off.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Of his shoulder surgery that. He had he had a clean.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Up procedure, BUT yeah, i mean there's gonna be a
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of beef on. The line
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: and when you see guys like this being the front
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: ends of that that that that's got to make. You
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: HAPPY and i Know That, jo matier we were talking,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: To somebody jay and the a parent the.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: Everything is different versus.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Last year materira does a ton stuff again with the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: offensive line We Saw dylan gabriel.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Do that why that's IMPORTANT is.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: I think that those are the first people that you
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: need to have on, your side and they need to
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: know that you are thinking about them and appreciative. Of
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: them and those guys are going to be absolute Monsters.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: For jametiers so.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: That's a, Big, group jay.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: Very.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Big group let's talk about this defensive line too. Real
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: quick we'll do our depth charts. AND Stuff Sec media
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: days is coming up the week of, the fourteenth the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: week of. My birthday we'll. Be there i'll be, out there,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: you know and we'll probably record the Shell, that sunday
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: get depth, charts out talk about who we think is
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be where as we prepare for. Fall camp it's gonna.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Be exciting, but this let, me see let me make
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: sure this is. Properly, done yeah there. We go let,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: ME go, i mean let me zoom IN like i
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: like two own ginormous. Human. Beings, good lord he. Is
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: big that's a big. KID like i think there should
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: be laws. Against it there. We, Go, jeez louise that's your.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: D line stone. LOOKS huge i don't know if y'all
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Realize that stone.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Is, huge yeah.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: He's, ginormous yeah IT was sec media days and then
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: AND then i want to, point out we don't Little
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: fat nigel happened.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: In there nigel has put himself in on the big.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Inside too but you know what was it GOING into sec?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: MEDIA days I Think brent vinnables made the comment last
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: year that he just had gotten Report That david stone
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: was up over three. Hundred pounds so a year later
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: he is now three seventeen and looks like the dude
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: has been working. And sweating so but, you know You
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Got dominic williams, over here, g BABY like, i said
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: You Got, Jaden Jackson.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Marvin jones IT'S just pj back in the back.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Looking menacing. You know that's that's another thing is YOU
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: know i would say that really really, Excites me jay
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: is when you have the quality and, competitive depth you
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: don't rely on, one guy you don't rely on. Two
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: guys you've got guys that are coming in. In waves and
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: there's a reason why a lot of people are dubbing
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: oh use, defensive line but once again oh used defensive
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: line as not only the best IN, the sec but
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: the best in the nation heading into. The year and
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: it's because it's one after another, after another.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: After another after another. After another so what we're here
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: for is this defensive line being able to roll. That
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: more you know who's very fascinating is this burgeon kai is.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Our kid oh, my god did YOU see i know
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: there was a there was A post i think he
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  Speaker 1: did from him TRAINING and i saw the Picture and i'm,
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  Speaker 1: just like that's a that's a big boy.
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  Speaker 2: Berg and kaisar had a full ride scholarship OBVIOUSLY. From
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: byu he is a guy that you could have seen
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  Speaker 2: him go and, you know be on a lot Of
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  Speaker 2: Freshman all american TEAMS, at byu, you know going into,
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  Speaker 2: this year and this guy is just an.
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  Speaker 3: Absolute stud.
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  Speaker 1: So he's. A union i.
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  Speaker 3: Just there he is.
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  Speaker 1: Right here he's the one that we're not even.
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  Speaker 2: Talking, about no anything you get from him.
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  Speaker 3: Is, gravy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he's one he should talk about, more Though, good
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  Speaker 1: lord look. At him.
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  Speaker 2: But you're starting to see some OF these nfl, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Pedigree bodies you're no longer seeing a d tackle, in there,
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  Speaker 2: you know pressing two, seventy eight, Two eighty you're not
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  Speaker 2: seeing a defensive end who you know has got.
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  Speaker 3: Short arms not. Very explosive, SO yeah i mean it
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  Speaker 3: is going to, be.
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  Speaker 2: Again nothing that we did last year means a damn thing, This,
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  Speaker 2: year jay and so this team is going to have
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  Speaker 2: to come back and show that not only were they
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: the real thing.
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  Speaker 3: Last year but they. Are better, in Fact Will trent
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  Speaker 3: wilson up over three.
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  Speaker 2: Hundred, POUNDS yeah i mean there's there's going to be,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: some GUYS and i think that it's going to be
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: a little tougher on this, Defensive, line jay because everybody
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: saw what happened, last year and so now the defensive
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: line is is is something that the teams are going
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: to gear up for and prepare for with. More intent
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: not saying that you're going to roll into any week
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: IN the sec and just take a position group like the,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: defensive line, for granted but a lot of, people said
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  Speaker 2: you know it can oh you hold up on, the
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  Speaker 2: lines you know IN. The sec, you know the offense
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  Speaker 2: is what.
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  Speaker 3: It is but the.
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  Speaker 2: DEFENSIVE line, i mean they held up their Own and
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  Speaker 2: i'd like TO see i like to see a, lot.
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  Speaker 3: More, you know getting home. This year but.
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  Speaker 2: Bv uh you know his his defense and You Know,
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  Speaker 2: Todd Bates, miguel chabis they can be effective. Without sacks
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  Speaker 2: they cause chaos and they caused people. Flying around and,
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  Speaker 2: you know you get Guys Like taylor wine out there
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  Speaker 2: at two seventy. SIX six i BELIEVE like, i said,
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  Speaker 2: you know With The kendall daniels out in, the middle
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  Speaker 2: you know when his, big body you've.
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  Speaker 3: Got tools all over.
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  Speaker 2: The place you get you get guys in the, defensive
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  Speaker 2: backfield Back Like, kendall dolby and there's not Gonna be
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to come in and play a brand
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: of football which know what you're, gonna do and get
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  Speaker 2: it out of your hands quick because you're not gonna
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: be able to hold the ball against this team.
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  Speaker 1: This year ONE thing i care about is that this
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  Speaker 1: TIME for o you to go. To work it's time
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  Speaker 1: for this defense to replicate what they did. Last season
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  Speaker 1: and it's time for this offense to give this defense
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  Speaker 1: the help that it needs in order for to continue
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  Speaker 1: to propel. ITSELF higher i think the secondary is gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Be better that's gonna be the fun conversation we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: start having once fall. Camp hits what's that secondary gonna? Look?
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  Speaker 1: Like what especially the DB's because if everything sounds the way,
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  Speaker 1: It sounds Gentry and eli bowl and are gonna be your,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: main dudes a dobe rotating from cheatah, To corner you're gonna.
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  Speaker 1: The corner the secondary is gonna look exactly what you
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: hoped for. Last season so that, to me is gonna. Be,
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  Speaker 1: big kim he Asked, ABOUT arnold i think. He's starting
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: probably they're probably not gonna start a true freshman on
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: the Road against baylor In which baylor is supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be a heck of a lot better than they were.
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  Speaker 1: Last year so since that's, THE case i kind of
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  Speaker 1: expect him. TO start i don't know if he's starting
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  Speaker 1: quarterback when we, play, him though that's just me.
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  Speaker 2: Being true that's just a, few weeks just a few,
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  Speaker 2: weeks LATER and i can promise you this.
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  Speaker 3: It Wasn't All jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Arnold's fault but you get a bunch of a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of Folks in norman after last year and you get
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  Speaker 2: a chance for this defense to, go Crazy And jackson
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  Speaker 2: arnold is the is the recipient recipient of all. THAT
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  Speaker 2: angst i think that If If jackson arnold can make
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: it Out, of, norman he's, you know still is the starter.
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  Speaker 3: At quarterback he's tougher SKIN than.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, BUT MAN i i just don't. See it, And,
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  Speaker 2: yeah red just bring it Up To, courtland guillery another
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  Speaker 2: freshman defensive back who is starting to make uh.
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  Speaker 3: Some splashes you've.
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  Speaker 2: Got a lot Of good you've got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: good options at defensive back. Right now, you know we
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  Speaker 2: we Still Have jacoby johnson is still, out there, but
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  Speaker 2: uh You've got You've got You've Got, courtland gilliery who
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: is a guy who just plays football and he is
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: just an. Absolute Stud malee hawkins also is going, to,
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  Speaker 2: be uh, you know a young pup out there trying
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  Speaker 2: to get get some. Playing time so that's why the
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  Speaker 2: competitive depth is such a. Big, Thing JAY and i
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: know that it's now like the ELEVENTH time i said, It.
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  Speaker 3: Today but you've got guys who are.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Pushing each other and want, to play, and uh it's gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Be hard it's gonna be hard to keep your job
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  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be hard to to. Steal snaps and
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  Speaker 2: but that's what makes a that's what makes a defense
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  Speaker 2: uh really. Really good is you got people coming every
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  Speaker 2: single wave wanting to steal the guy in front. Of.
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  Speaker 1: Them spot that's what. It is. Competitive depth it's critical
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  Speaker 1: for us. To vibe, all right they got. Pulling up
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• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: we'll prep RIGHT before sec. Media days. We'll talk we'll
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: have a few things to talk about to, you know
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: prep us more and more because right now we're seven
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: weeks away until, football starts eight Weeks until oklahoma, football starts,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah keep your. Eyes open Things soon a's gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Surprise everybody coop last words for, the, people.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Man just. Enjoy it this is this is the time of.
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  Speaker 2: The year, you know we're gonna get right in the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: middle of a football season before everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Realizes IT and i think this.
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  Speaker 2: Is a chance for this year is going to be
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  Speaker 2: something that is gonna be a season that we're all going.
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  Speaker 3: To be really really excited to.
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  Speaker 2: See what, you know we need to start seeing some
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: of the preseason lists. Come out see the guys on.
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  Speaker 2: That list, You know Michigan is michigan's your first litmus
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  Speaker 2: test for. This YEAR and i think that We handle
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: michigan pretty. Pretty easily they're a team who was just
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: like us. Last year saw the defense and absolute embarrassment.
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  Speaker 2: On offense asking a lot for a dude to come Down, To,
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  Speaker 2: norman oklahoma second week of the season against a veteran
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  Speaker 2: salty defense and and. Do something, so yeah if you
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: if you're trying to find the tickets to, THE games
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  Speaker 2: I know i've been getting, the calls, and uh it's
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  Speaker 2: a it's, now time.
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  Speaker 1: It's time get. On it, all right we're out catch
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  Speaker 1: y'all in probably about a, week peaks mm hmm