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  Speaker 1: They're brothers, but so were canaan Aden.
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  Speaker 2: They were into poorn, they were into drugs, they were
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  Speaker 2: into anything they could get their hands on to make money.
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  Speaker 3: They're just neuveau reeves, dumbasses committing deadly Since is the
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  Speaker 3: Pirano families bread and Butter.
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  Speaker 4: Deep Throat was considered to be the most profitable film
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  Speaker 4: of all time, they.
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  Speaker 5: Stopped counting it. They started weighing the money. That's how
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  Speaker 5: much money.
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  Speaker 1: They were making. When this nuclear family goes ballistic, it's
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  Speaker 1: because they're greed is way thicker than their blood.
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  Speaker 2: I had never heard of a betrayal like that. One
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  Speaker 2: person that has absolutely nothing to do with this.
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  Speaker 1: It's killed.
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  Speaker 6: It's devastating.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Steve Sharripam. I grew up in a
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  Speaker 1: pretty rough neighborhood in Brooklyn, New York. I've seen good
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  Speaker 1: people turn bad and bad people turn worse. Some took
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  Speaker 1: contracts to carry out a hit. Some were victims of
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  Speaker 1: a hit to hit man. Life and death is just
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  Speaker 1: part of the business. It's nothing personal. January fourth, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty two, Brooklyn, New York. Joseph Pirano and his son
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  Speaker 1: Joe Jr. Are going to a meeting with their Colombo
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  Speaker 1: crime family bosses. What they don't know is they're heading
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  Speaker 1: into an ambush. What makes it even worse is the
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  Speaker 1: plan to kill them has been hatched by Joe Senior's
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  Speaker 1: business partner, his big brother Tony.
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  Speaker 2: I had never heard of a betrayal like that where
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  Speaker 2: a brother would actually come in and ask that his
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  Speaker 2: brother and his nephew beek to me, it was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: So how did the relationship between two brothers turn into carnage?
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  Speaker 1: Every family has its disputes. Fickering over money can lead
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  Speaker 1: to hard feelings, for sure. So what if you and
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  Speaker 1: your brother owned the most profitable porn flick ever made,
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  Speaker 1: Deep Throat. We're talking about tens, maybe hundreds of millions,
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  Speaker 1: And what if you're lying, cheating and then kompoop of
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  Speaker 1: a brother? What if that fat, no good pile of
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  Speaker 1: crap stole tens of millions of that movie's profits from
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  Speaker 1: you and your family? Would you want them dead? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I thought so.
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  Speaker 5: I think the family kind of fracture, as families do
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  Speaker 5: when they start making tons and tons and tons of money.
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  Speaker 1: It all started happier days. It's the early seventies. Joe
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  Speaker 1: Parano is a gangster from a gangster family and life
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  Speaker 1: is good. Joe isn't especially smart or ambitious, but his
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  Speaker 1: big brother Tony lets him tag along.
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  Speaker 7: Each of them was a member of the Columbo crime
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  Speaker 7: family and they were involved in the typical gangster activities
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  Speaker 7: loan shalking, gambling, extortion.
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  Speaker 2: They were thumbs and hoodlums, general street people. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: have any finesse. They were into anything they could get
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  Speaker 2: their hands on to make money.
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  Speaker 1: Salvator Big Salama Schiata is on the same mafia crew
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  Speaker 1: as Joe and Tony Parano. He does it much like
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  Speaker 1: either one.
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  Speaker 2: They were bullies, very loud, very boisterous type people in
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  Speaker 2: the Columbo family body like the middle.
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  Speaker 1: They aren't exactly peace from a pod melons would be
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  Speaker 1: more like it. Elder brother Tony is the brains.
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  Speaker 2: He has been a four hundred pound area so that
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  Speaker 2: they nicknamed him Fat Tony.
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  Speaker 1: Pirano biggest Fat Tony might be. If he's the brains,
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  Speaker 1: then Joe's the stomach. They call him the whale, but
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  Speaker 1: not all of his blubber is on his waistline. Plenty
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  Speaker 1: of it is between his ears.
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  Speaker 5: No one had a nice thing to say about Joe
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  Speaker 5: the Whale, although than they was fat and he couldn't
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  Speaker 5: fit in the doorway.
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  Speaker 1: The brothers have a nice little racket making dirty movies
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  Speaker 1: that play the perverts in peep shows. The whole video
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  Speaker 1: revolution is years away. In Hollywood, movies are prudis, so
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  Speaker 1: pororn fans have to take whatever garbage they can get
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  Speaker 1: and make no mistake, what the Piranos make is cracked.
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  Speaker 5: There was basically looke, which are short films. They'd be
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  Speaker 5: really grainy, and they weren't shot really well. You really
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  Speaker 5: couldn't see a lot of what was going on in
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  Speaker 5: the films. They weren't that good.
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  Speaker 1: Still, low budgets and a black market product make the
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  Speaker 1: brothers a steady profit, and they control the whole shebang,
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  Speaker 1: especially in their hometown.
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  Speaker 3: Times Square was really a cessful. It was all pornographic theaters,
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  Speaker 3: peep shows, prostitutes.
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  Speaker 1: Today.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't buy a loose cigarette in Times Square, and
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  Speaker 3: then you could buy almost anything your heart desired. The
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  Speaker 3: theaters paid at least fifty percent of their income to
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  Speaker 3: the mob, or to the mob through the Perinos.
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  Speaker 1: You would think to the mob, money is money, but
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  Speaker 1: even gangsters have standards, and to them, the Peranos are
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  Speaker 1: just as skanky as their wares.
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  Speaker 3: Pornography was thought to be the lowest wrong of organized crime.
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  Speaker 2: When I was inducted into the family, the Columbo family,
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  Speaker 2: I was explicitly told that there was nothing to be
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  Speaker 2: done in the pornography business. We were not to be
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  Speaker 2: involved in. It was one of the rules and regulations
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  Speaker 2: that needed to be followed.
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  Speaker 5: Remember, these guys are very heavily Catholic and they have wives,
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  Speaker 5: and the wives are always saying, why are you making
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  Speaker 5: those dirty movies?
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  Speaker 2: You know, those things would be disgusting, They would be
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  Speaker 2: dishonorable to be involved in anything like that. The mafia
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  Speaker 2: that I joined would have had nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: that kind of industry.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that their crew looks down on porn makes
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  Speaker 1: it easy for Tony and Joe to keep it all
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  Speaker 1: in the family. They both have sons, and in both cases,
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  Speaker 1: the apple does not fall far from the tree. Tony
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  Speaker 1: so Butchi is like his father. He's smart and has
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  Speaker 1: a good head for business.
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  Speaker 7: Butchi had a reputation as being a charming, rogueish kind
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  Speaker 7: of a character.
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  Speaker 5: It was one of these guys that really knew how
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  Speaker 5: to hang out in New York and you know, have fun.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he was a fun guy and everyone liked him.
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  Speaker 1: Butchy dreams of turning his family's porn racket into a
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood hit factory with him at the helm.
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  Speaker 5: He wanted to be an auteur, you know, he really
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  Speaker 5: wanted to be this filmmaker and make big Hollywood features,
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  Speaker 5: you know, not just you know, pornography.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Dewell's son, Joe Junr. Is nothing like his cousin.
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  Speaker 1: Butchie Junior is a bonehead who co saw his connections
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  Speaker 1: just like his old man.
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  Speaker 2: It would be difficult for you to have a real
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  Speaker 2: conversation with them. They didn't know anything about the movie
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  Speaker 2: street or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: The fortunes of the Perino brothers changed one day went
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  Speaker 1: into their office strolls a guy with an idea that
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  Speaker 1: will revolutionize the smut industry. Gerard Domiano is a New
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  Speaker 1: York hairdresser who wants to be a movie director, and
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  Speaker 1: his earthshaking idea is to make a dirty feature film,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a story people talking, pretending to be other people,
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  Speaker 1: the whole bit.
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  Speaker 4: Back in those days, you know, that was really unheard of.
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  Speaker 4: You know, X rated films were shot in a hotel
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  Speaker 4: room with a couple of hookers. You know, that was
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  Speaker 4: a film.
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  Speaker 1: Domiano even has a star in mind. He's written a
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  Speaker 1: porno comedy for a woman who has a very special talent.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Linda Lovelace. It's no accident he calls
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  Speaker 1: his movie deep Throat.
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  Speaker 4: He was inspired by Linda Lovelace. There's no question. I
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  Speaker 4: think really what my father about Linda was her innocence
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  Speaker 4: that it was almost a contradiction. Here was someone with this,
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  Speaker 4: you know, amazing sexual technique, but that had the appeal
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  Speaker 4: of the girl next door.
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  Speaker 1: At first. The girl next door appeal is lost on
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  Speaker 1: the Peranhos.
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  Speaker 5: They had a big, big fight with the Peranos because
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  Speaker 5: they didn't think Linda was attractive and Gerard Domiano with
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  Speaker 5: screen back. But deep Throat's going to become a household word.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't quite get it. They didn't understand what he
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  Speaker 4: was trying to do. For example, they didn't like the title.
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  Speaker 4: They wanted to call it The sword Swallower, and he
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  Speaker 4: had to convince them, no, no, trust me, you know
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  Speaker 4: deep Throat.
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  Speaker 1: They're also nervous that Deep Throat's budget is about twenty
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  Speaker 1: two thousand dollars. That's fifteen times the cost of a
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  Speaker 1: porn loop.
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  Speaker 5: So two thousand dollars to make this movie with this
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  Speaker 5: not very attractive girl, but they really didn't know what
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  Speaker 5: they were doing.
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  Speaker 1: The Perrinos are not impressed with Linda, and Domiano insists
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  Speaker 1: they at least bring her in for an audition. Well,
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  Speaker 1: when they experience her special talent firsthand, let's just say
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  Speaker 1: they have a change of heart.
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  Speaker 5: Linda Lovelace's special talent and this is hard to say
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  Speaker 5: on a PG rated show, but she could perform fullatio.
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  Speaker 5: I don't mean to be crude, but that was her
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  Speaker 5: selling point.
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  Speaker 8: Deep Throat was kind of a sex technique people hadn't
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  Speaker 8: heard of or seen. There was no word deep throat
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  Speaker 8: into the movie, and people wanted to see that.
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  Speaker 1: After Linda's tripped to the care I just think couch,
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  Speaker 1: the Piranhos agreed to Bankwete Ammiano's Deep Throat.
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  Speaker 4: My father was responsible for all creative aspects of the film.
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  Speaker 4: The Piranos were responsible for distribution and of course the funding,
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  Speaker 4: and they were going to split the profits three ways.
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  Speaker 4: He went home and wrote the script over the weekend,
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  Speaker 4: and by Monday he went back and showed this to
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  Speaker 4: the Paranhos and said this is the film I want
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  Speaker 4: to make.
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  Speaker 1: Miami went to nineteen seventy two. Damiano takes just six
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  Speaker 1: days to shoot his movie.
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  Speaker 4: My father, he did everything in that movie except get laid.
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  Speaker 4: He came up with the idea, wrote the script, he
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  Speaker 4: did the editing. He was involved in every aspect of
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  Speaker 4: that of that film from beginning to end. At the time,
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  Speaker 4: I was seven years old on the set, and the
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  Speaker 4: atmosphere was very exciting.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: My father never allowed us to be anywhere near what
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  Speaker 4: they called the nitty gritty when they were filming the
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  Speaker 4: sex scenes. We were ushered, you know, off the set.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, we were very aware that our father
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  Speaker 4: was a filmmaker and we were proud of that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and we were were raised to believe that there wasn't
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  Speaker 4: anything wrong with it with sexuality.
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  Speaker 1: The big question is will it make money?
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  Speaker 7: Oh boy?
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  Speaker 1: Will it? Deep Throat goes on to become the most
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  Speaker 1: profitable porn film ever made. Tony and Joe Parino and
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  Speaker 1: their sons Butcher and Joe Junr are poison to become
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  Speaker 1: mega millionaires. Their family fortune is built on a foundation
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  Speaker 1: of lies, exploitation, and threats of violence. What could possibly
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  Speaker 1: go wrong. January nineteen eighty two, the new year is
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  Speaker 1: just four days old. At Mobster Slash Porn Distributors, Joseph
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  Speaker 1: the Wyld Pirano and his son are on their way
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  Speaker 1: to a meeting. What the two joes don't know is
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  Speaker 1: to sit down is a setup. Who they'll be meeting
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  Speaker 1: is their maker. Ten years earlier, it seemed like the
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  Speaker 1: fund would never end for the Pirano brothers. Their film
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  Speaker 1: Deep Throat opens in seventy two, and it hits at
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  Speaker 1: just the moment and Missus America are thinking they need
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  Speaker 1: to explore their wild side.
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  Speaker 8: It was just a perfect movie at the perfect time.
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  Speaker 5: People have been talking about having sex in the sixties,
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  Speaker 5: but nobody really had it until the seventies.
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  Speaker 8: People were ready for eighth Porn Revolution.
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  Speaker 1: And Tucson future porn legend Annie Sprinkle is working the
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  Speaker 1: popcorn counter at the local movie house.
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  Speaker 8: Deep Throat was the first porn movie I had ever seen,
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  Speaker 8: and first porn movie a lot of people had seen.
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  Speaker 8: And I remember just being totally odd, shocked, amazed seeing
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  Speaker 8: you know, Genital's big on screen. It was a religious experience.
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  Speaker 5: The reason why Deep Throat made it was because there
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  Speaker 5: was a comedy.
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  Speaker 6: Well there it is, you little bugger very.
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  Speaker 8: It was a lot of fun, so people came from
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  Speaker 8: all walks of life.
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  Speaker 5: Linda Lovelace was on the cover of Esquire. Johnny Carson
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  Speaker 5: started making jokes once Johnny Carson concludes it in his monologue,
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  Speaker 5: you know You're sad.
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  Speaker 8: Deep Throat was happening. It was deep film to see
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  Speaker 8: and everyone was going to see it. And I remember
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  Speaker 8: working in that ticket booth and just the cash coming through.
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  Speaker 8: It was unbelievable. I couldn't sell tickets fats enough.
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  Speaker 1: The success of Deep Throat means the Piranho Brothers go
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  Speaker 1: from bottom feeding pariahs to filthy rich, big time earners
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  Speaker 1: for the Columbo crime family.
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  Speaker 7: The Peranhos revolutionized the porn business and brought the Mob
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  Speaker 7: into it in a big way.
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  Speaker 2: The Mob is like a chameleon. They're always changing. They
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  Speaker 2: always want to supply whatever it is to the people,
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  Speaker 2: whatever they want, and as society changed, they changed right
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  Speaker 2: along with it.
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  Speaker 7: Publicly, the mafia has always been against pornography, but they're
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  Speaker 7: in the life to make money.
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  Speaker 2: When porn became big, the Mob was standing right there,
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  Speaker 2: ready to give them whatever they wanted.
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  Speaker 5: It was just making so much money, and the rest
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  Speaker 5: of the mafia realizes that it's like it's a product,
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  Speaker 5: like drugs were to the mafia in the fifties, that
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  Speaker 5: they could make hundreds of millions of dollars. It's like heroin.
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  Speaker 5: So basically everyone started making porn films.
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  Speaker 6: You know, anybody that believed in the old folklore and
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  Speaker 6: all the old.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff about honor and integrity that was all gone by
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  Speaker 2: the wayside. It's like a whirlwind, like the tornado was
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  Speaker 2: taken over. The mob was absolutely out of the honor
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  Speaker 2: business and it was strictly a money making enterprise now.
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  Speaker 1: But she produced the film. But it's Tony and Joel's
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  Speaker 1: distribution network that makes Deep Throat such a winner. Their
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  Speaker 1: approach is classic mafia, simple and blunt.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't just send the film out and go buy
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  Speaker 4: box office receipts. They had their own people there to
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  Speaker 4: make sure they got every dollar.
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  Speaker 5: A guy would fly the prints in, give it to
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  Speaker 5: the theater our owners and say we want fifty percent
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  Speaker 5: of this.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the week, they want to make.
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  Speaker 8: Sure their numbers were accurate. So I think people got
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  Speaker 8: a few bucks an hour to sit there at the
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  Speaker 8: door counting how many people went in, so they had
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  Speaker 8: a very tight control on the distribution.
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  Speaker 1: This method is so effective. The Pirano's office is soon
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  Speaker 1: swamped with cash.
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  Speaker 5: They stopped counting it. They started weighing the money. That's
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  Speaker 5: how much money they were making.
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  Speaker 2: There was money from the floor to the ceiling, and
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  Speaker 2: they didn't want to leave because they were afraid the
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  Speaker 2: place would get broken into.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: If there is a break in, it'll probably be their
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: friends with Crowboss. I mean, there's no loyalty in this crowd,
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  Speaker 1: not when it comes to piles of cash. Director Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Domiano finds that out pretty quickly. The Piranos decide to
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  Speaker 1: cut him out of his share of the film's profits.
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  Speaker 4: And my father began to understand who he was dealing with.
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  Speaker 4: So when they made him the quote unquote offer, he
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  Speaker 4: couldn't refuse. He felt that he was lucky to get
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  Speaker 4: out of there with his life.
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  Speaker 1: They pay him twenty five thousand dollars to go away
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  Speaker 1: for good. They say money changes people, but that's not true.
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  Speaker 1: What it does is give people the means to show
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  Speaker 1: you who they've been all along. So who are the
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Perennos really? Fat TONI is a businessman. He invests in
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  Speaker 1: real estate, and government companies. He runs them all just
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  Speaker 1: like an old school mobster. Of course, that's exactly who
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  Speaker 1: he is.
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  Speaker 2: Fat TONI and Butchy they weren't one trick ponies. They
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  Speaker 2: used the money that they got from Deep Throat to
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  Speaker 2: branch out.
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  Speaker 5: Butcher Perino wanted to be a filmmaker more than he
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  Speaker 5: wanted to be a mafioso guy. So he went to
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  Speaker 5: Hollywood and he set up this film distribution company called
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  Speaker 5: Branston Films.
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  Speaker 1: Butchy's good at it too.
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  Speaker 5: They had about twenty hits in the first year of
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  Speaker 5: their business.
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  Speaker 1: Butcher's company distributes the Texas Chainsaw, Massacre, Bruce Lee's Return
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: of the Dragon, and Andy Warholds Frankenstein.
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  Speaker 5: Basically, they had their fingers on the pulse of pop
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  Speaker 5: culture and really took some chances and made quite a
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  Speaker 5: bit of money on their own.
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  Speaker 2: It was really his niche He would have gone on
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  Speaker 2: to make movies forever.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: He was just the type of guy that that was
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  Speaker 2: his thing.
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  Speaker 6: He loved it.
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  Speaker 1: And as for Joe the Whale and his son Joe Jr.
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  Speaker 1: They have no dreams, just appetites. Who are they really? Jerks? Greedy,
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  Speaker 1: low class jerks. It's who they've always been, and getting
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  Speaker 1: rich just makes that crystal clear. I think they were
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  Speaker 1: kind of like.
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  Speaker 5: A white trash family who suddenly hits the lottery.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: You know, you buy everything.
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  Speaker 3: They paraded their wealth, which was not considered a good quality.
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  Speaker 1: Here, this is for you, and this is for them.
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  Speaker 3: They're just nouveaux ree dumbasses, and so they weren't well
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  Speaker 3: thought of.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: So just when the Pirano brothers and their sons are
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: showing that true colors comes to time when they need
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to have each other's backs. Deep Throat might be a
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: national sensation, but lots of people think graphic on screen
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  Speaker 1: sex is obscene.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, we're going to.
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  Speaker 2: Ask you to sartwarn on the premises for an obscene movie.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: And playing it on Main Street, USA causes a few
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  Speaker 1: run ins with the law.
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  Speaker 7: The peranhos and the entire porn industry began to feel
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: the wrath of prosecutors in the Bible Belt who went
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: afster them using obscenity laws.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy six, things heat up on a Tennessee
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: prosecutor gets the bright idea of charging everybody who made
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Deep Throat but conspiracy to violate obscenity laws. Tony and
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Joe Parreno included, it's a big First Amendment case and
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the trial becomes a media circus.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: It was supposed to be an obscenity trial, but in
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: reality it was kind of a racketeering trial where they
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: tried to show the mob's involvement in the porn industry.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Law enforcement in this country was very, very upset that
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: the mafia was making one hundreds of millions of dollars
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: off what they thought was, you know, disgusting, degrading filth.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: The trial showed that the Prenos were the prime movers
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: in the porn business that they had produced and distributed
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: Deep Throat, made millions of dollars on it, and were
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: knee deep in cash.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And when the link between the mob and porn profits
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: is made clear, it's an all out scandal.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Mayor Lindsay and New York City came and banned it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: They pulled it out of the World Theater in Times
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Square and it caused an uproar.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: When you face hard times together, you really get to
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: know what somebody's made of. Shared adversity is the glue
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that bonds soldiers and fraternity brothers into lifelong friends. That
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: didn't happen with the wheel Brothers Perno, Tony goes on
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the lamb, leaving brother Joe to face the music in
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Memphis the Blues.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Of course, the brothers are no longer on the same
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: page because Anthony Perno Senior had taken off while the
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: deep throat trial was going on, and Joe the Whale
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: took over a lot of the distribution.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: The trial goes badly for the Piranhos and everybody else.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: They all get convicted, even Tony, who's hiding out in
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Italy or on his yacht. The Peranos appeal the conviction.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: But here's where the dramatic personality difference between the brothers
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: becomes a problem.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: Joe the Whale and his son became the day to
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: day people who were involved in picking up the money,
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: collecting the money, distributing the films, and basically running the
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: show for the Columbo crime family.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It seems obvious that the last person you want minding
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the candy store is a five hundred, and it's Mora.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But Fat Tony and Butcher have no choice. They aren't there,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and anyway, the job is pretty simple. It's the two
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Joseph's job to make sure everybody gets their cut. Tony
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Butcher and the Colombo family bosses. I think we're pretty
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: well established that the Whale and his son are greeting
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: income poops, and even their fellow monsters are onto them.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be blood on the floor. And with this
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: punch that ain't a metaphor, Joe Parano and his son
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Joe Junr. Think their bosses are coming to meet them
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: to hear how much money they all made on Deep
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Throat last year. In fact, the only ones joining them
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: will be a pair of shotgun toty hit men. How
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: is it that two of the Colombo family's best earners
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: are being set up for a violent end. After the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Memphis trial in seventy six, Joe the Whale and his
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: son are left in charge of the Pirano family business.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: They've never been given any responsibility before for good reason.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: They're greedy and not that smart. But now the smart
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: guys are indisposed. Fat Tony's on the run and Butcher's
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: fighting a losing battle to keep his Hollywood dreams alive.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, it's exposed that Bryanston Films are the mafia, and
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: basically they close up shop. So Butcher's dream of having
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: this big Hollywood film studio gets shut down.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So Tony and Butcher are counting more than ever on
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: their share of Deep Throats profits. But those envelopes don't
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: seem as thick as they ought to be, especially considering
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that the Memphis trial did nothing but pump up Deep
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Throats box office receipts.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: The controversial movie Deep Throat has returned to Fort Worth
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: once again.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Most of the convictions are overturned on appeal, and thanks
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: to the attempts to ban it, Deep Vote is bigger
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: than ever.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: It actually generated more money because they gave them publicity
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: they couldn't get anywhere else.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: People were starting to talk about freedom of speech and
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: First Amendment of rights and fighting for sexual freedom. So
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: people wanted to be part of the sexual revolution. And
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: because the police had tried to stop the distribution of
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: the film, people wanted to see it. You know, when
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: things get censored, people want to see what's the big.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Deal, which means the joes are getting even more stinking
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: rich fat Tony and Butchy are on the outside and
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: they smell a rat. Just because you're in a room
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: with a giant pile of money, it doesn't mean it's
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: all yours. The whale and the sun start thinking the
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: bosses have no idea how much they're supposed to get.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Why not send them two boxes instead of say three
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: or four. Oops.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: You know, once you're getting the money, you think, God,
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: it's mine. You know he's not coming back. I can
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: just spend it anyway I want. I mean, you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: if I was Anthony Pereno, I probably would have sent
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: guys to shoot him down too. I mean, he was
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: pissing the money away.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: You know. After a couple of years on the lamb,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: fat Tony comes out of the cold. He's got to
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: serve a little time, but he's okay with that. What
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: he's not okay with is his brother playing him for
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a fool.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: When his brother came back, he wasn't too happy with
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: the way Joe the Whale had been spending his money.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: Anthony Pirano felt that his brother and his nephew were
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: stealing not only from the crime family, but stealing from him.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Fat Tony's prison is in California, not far from Butcher.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: It should be no surprise that the topic of what
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: to do about our thieving relatives comes up now and again.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: He sent his son to the Columbo family hierarchy to
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: complain that his brother was stealing money from him.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he Joe, thank you, he said. My father wants
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: you guys to know what's going on. He wants my
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: uncle Joe and my cousin Joey to pay for this
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: with their lives.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: The Columbo bosses are no stri to whacking their own.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: For them, putting bullets in the brains of friends and
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: colleagues is all in a day's work.
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: The Columbo crime family has always been a fractious, violent
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: family that feasted on violence against itself.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: As bad of an image as I had of the Peranos,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and as much as I disliked them all, I still
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: didn't think that they were capable of doing anything like that.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: I don't think that a human being could ever act
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: that way.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: To go in and to put his brother and his
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: nephew on the line and asked for their lives for
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: stealing money was unbelievable to me.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: The Pirano hits a weird one, for sure. For fratricide
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: or no, it seems like a good management plan.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Interest in the hit was money. They didn't care if
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: you steal him from the brother. If you're steal him
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: from the brother. You can steal him from us.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: You don't go into the mafia and not know that
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: if you do that, you're gonna get whacked. You know,
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: that's just you know, it's like ripping off a drug dealer.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: You know, like someone's gonna you're you're gonna pay for.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: The decision is made. Joe the Whale and his son
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: are to be killed. The hit needs to be planned,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of course, but how hard can it be to whack
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the whale? Clearly the Columbo family reading group has not
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: gotten around to moby dick Captain Ahead. He had a
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: hard time of him. November nineteen eighty one, Joseph the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Whale Pirano is ambushed in his easy chair and riddled
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: with five thirty eight caliber bullets. It looks like the
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Columbo family's problem has taken care of, but they're is
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: surprises everybody else. They didn't order this hit. The question
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: is who did.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: So?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Who shot the whale? Well, it wasn't the Columbos. It
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: was Joe Junior. He's pissed off because his dad is
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: sleeping with Junior's wife's mother. You can't make this stuff up.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: When Joe Junior found out about it. He felt dishonored
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: by the father, and he tried to kill him.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: It turns out the whale's biggest talent is absorbing lead. Now,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: how did the whale survive five point blank slungs from
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: a thirty eight as the reason ahem didn't go after
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Moby Dick with a handgun. There are a lot of
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: places for a bullet to go on a wall of blubble.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Junior slugs didn't hit anything vital or even in point.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: The whale was wearing a permanent bulletproof vest, which was
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: the two or three hundred pounds of fat that he
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: carried on his belly.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: When the Sun shot him.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: The sun ran away and the rest of the family
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: and the people in the house decided that they would
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: take Joe to whale and carry him outside, help him
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: walk down the steps outside, and lay him down in
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the street and say that somebody trying to rob him,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: so that the cops wouldn't know that the Sun tried
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: to kill him.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: When the police show up to ask who shot.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: Him, and.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: The whale gives him a cock and bull story, something
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: about you know, getting mum.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: They thinking that it was a mob hit or something
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to do with the coln crime family and Joe the
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Whale and his family sticking to the story that a
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: couple of guys edward guns try to rob him.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Lion at the cops's protocol for any mafiosi, but Lion
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: to your bosses that you don't do.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: A few days later, remembers the Columbo family went to
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: visit the Whale in the hospital and asked him what
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: had happened, and he told the story again that he'd
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: been robbed by a black man and the black man
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: had run.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Off, But the story had already traveled to it and
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: got into the administration.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Lion to my bosses is a very bad move. When
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the Whale tries to cover up his sleazy rolls in
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the hay with his son's mother in law, the Columbos
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: conclude that he's a lion dirtbag dead dirtbags too, of course,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: but they hate liars and the mother in law thing. Yes,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Joe the Whale's skivi sex life is actually a big
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: worry for the Colombo bosses. They might be homicidal thugs
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: who scoff for g man, but the mob is an
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: awful lot. Like Junior High School and every Colombo's nightmare
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: is a giggling Gambino.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: There was an ego amongst all the families. They wanted
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the other families to have respect for them, you know,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: and if they put up with some kind of behavior
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: and nonsense like that, the other families that would look
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: down upon them, or they'd.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: Left behind their back. They were very paranoid about being
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: left at.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: So for reasons of pride and greed, the Colombo's now
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: really wanted too. Joseph Piranos stuffed into oversized coffins.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: They were multi offenders. Was all over the place.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: That the son tried to kill the father, the father
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: was messing around with his mother in law. Was an
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: embarrassment for the Columbo family. And then you top it
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: all off with Joe and his son are stealing money
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: and some of that money belongs to the boss that
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: pretty much stealed their fate. When the boss is going
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: to wind up with more money, you're in a lot
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: of trouble.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: The job calls for someone who knows them really well,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: who better than their crewmate, Big sal Mischioda.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I got called to a meeting on Avenue U and
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: each Ford Street. There was a social club there and
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I remember, Oh jeez, you know what the heck is
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: this all about? You know, anytime I get called come
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: to the club. We got to talk to you. Something
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: has to be done, and I'm going to be a
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: want to do it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Big South meets with his boss, Joe Thomas Sella.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: You know, the first thing out of Joe T's mouth
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: was Joe Pirano in his son.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: And that's all man.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: Why well, it's a long story, but they gotta go.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Sal doesn't actually kill for a living. He's a loan shop.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: But part of the deal of being in the mob
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: is that when the boss tells you to do a
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: messy job, you do it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: Sal had a reputation as the kind of guy if
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: you give him a job to kill somebody, he would.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: Get it done.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Just of course you could get it done, doesn't mean
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you like it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: It was just a terrible thing. I mean, taking a
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: life is not an easy thing to do. I'm sick
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: that I have to be involved in it. Naturally, by now,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I already know that I have to do whatever I'm told.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Lu ill wind up getting killed myself. It's not an
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: easy time. It's a very stressful situation.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: A little anxiety makes for a good hit man, you
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: fuss over the details. Planning the mob hit is not
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: as easy as you might think. Joe the Whale had
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: already survived five slugs from his son's thirty eight. Clearly,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: they'll need serious firepower.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Big guys like that. You want to put them down.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: You know, you're looking for shots to knock them down,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: knock them off their feet, and then once they're down
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want with them. A shotgun
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: with the double old buck in it, wow, untold damage.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: It hits you and takes your insides right out of here.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: So that was the gun of choice.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: As any host knows, it's important that your guests feel comfortable.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: That's doubly true if you're planning to in viscerate them
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: with shotguts.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: We had to think along the lines of bringing them
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: some place where they would be comfortable. So we figured
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: that we would direct them to a place where they
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: were going to meet with the administration and everything was
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: going to be okay.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: The rules is a year end meeting to report on
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Deep Troll's royalties. Finding just the right location is the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: key thing, so Sal goes house something.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: We decided to just pick a place at random, and
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: we looked for a spot that would appeal to all
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: of us. We had to do it in a place
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: and in a time where it would make them feel
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: comfortable and they wouldn't worry about what we were going to
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: do to them, you know, I mean you got to
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: remember if anything tips them off, it's a big problem.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: They're not regular people.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I mean too, you know, they could just as easily
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: kill us as we could kill them. We picked the
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: spot that would look like it was made for this.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: We clocked the whole neighborhood. There was never anybody out.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: He finds his dream house on Lake Street in Gravesend, Brooklyn.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: It's a block away from a train station and is
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: very noisy with the trains.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: He doesn't need to look inside. It's the porch he's after.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Once they were on the steps, they were belonged to us.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was nothing nowhere they could go. They
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: needed how to go up or come down, and they
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: were pretty much trapped.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Sal doesn't ask the owner's permission. Why would he? I'd
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: like to pop a pornographer on your porch. Can lead
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: to some awkward questions, for example, are you going to
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: clean it up after? In fact, lugging a dead whale
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: back to the car is not in the plan.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: They can't kill them in a house and try to
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: bury them. I mean, look at the size of them.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: One guy is five hundred pounds and the other guys
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: you know another big guys six worth three, six foot four.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: Now we'll have to do it. We'll have to leave
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: them in a street.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: January fourth, nineteen eighty two, a car comes to the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: del Rio Dina and picks up Joe the Whale and
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Joe Junior. Father and son are still at odds over
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the mother in law attempted murder thing. But business is business.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: They think they're in for another dull evening of hiding
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: income from their bosses. There will be a reckoning tonight,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: but the ledgers have been closed.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: We will park down the street as soon as the
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: car pulled up with them. We waited about a minute
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: till they got like twenty feet ahead of us, thirty
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: feet ahead of us, and we started creeping in the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: car that we were in.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: It's the eleven day of Christmas and it's time to
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: pay the pipe is January nineteen eighty two, when Joe
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the Whale and his son Joe Junior arrived for their
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: meeting with their mob bosses. Everything seems hunky dory.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: They had no idea what was gonna happen to them,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: because they walked up the stairs in that house like
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: nothing was going on them.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: They've been cheating the Colombo family and their own kin
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: for years. As far as they know, no one has
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: ever noticed. Now here's the problem. The way you find
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: out they've caught you with your hand in the cookie
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: jar is very abrupt.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Timing was perfect.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: When the sun made us getting out of the car
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: with the shotguns. He started running across the stoop, but
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: it was too late for him. You're a gentle and
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: starts taking over. You know, you have that invincible high feeling.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: You know every time you do something like this, your
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: life is on the line. I mean, cops could pull up,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: anything could happen. You can wind up in a shootout,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: you could get killed, you could get arrested. Your whole
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: life could change in five seconds. It was a pretty
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: pretty precarious situation. The father never got to the door,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: he got shot and he laid it, never moved.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: We were show that they.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Were both dead, you know, like I was in survival mode.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get it done, get in the car
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: and get out of there could end. And then on
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: the way home, I was listening to the radio in
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: the car and I heard that two people were fatally
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: wounded in Brooklyn and there was a mob hit. And
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: so I went to bed, thinking job well done.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Not quite. Joe Junior is dead. The well, on the
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: other hand, has survived yet again. He is not the
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: second casualty. The second victim is Veronica's are Up, a
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: social worker and the former nun. She's who really lived
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: at four point thirty one Lake Street with her husband Lewis.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Veronica was bringing laundry from upstairs to downstairs and one
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: of the pellets of the shotgun blast hit her in
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: the head. She fell and died instantly.
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: Oh man, I was in shock at first. I was
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: sick to that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: It was bad enough that I was doing these things,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: you know, the people in my life, but when a
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: person that has absolutely nothing to do with this it's killed,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: it's devastating.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Joe the whale isn't un scared this time. He's paralyzed.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: The cops hope he'll at least cough up the name
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of the people who murdered his son.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: He would never cooperate with anybody or say anything. He
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say who picked him up at the diner. He wouldn't.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: He wasn't talking about anything.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: His silence vise the Whale passed from the Colombos who
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: suspect that he might just be a mortal.
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: He kept his mouth shut and was never really targeted
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: again by the crime family. He was happy to get
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: out with his life and basically disappear from view.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: News of the slaying of a former nun makes headlines,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: but with the Whale holding his tongue, investigators get nowhere.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: There were no arrests, there were no suspects. There were
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: a number of unsolved murders, and that was just one
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Deep Throat might have changed the world of pawn, but
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: nobody involved and it ended up better off. Linda Lovely
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: seesaws between a porn career and anti porn activism until
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: she dies in a car rack. The guy who invented
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the porn feature, Gerard Domiano, ends up broke in a
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Florida trailer.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Park, and it was something that troubled him to the
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: end of his life to see, you know, these people
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: that were essentially murderers make hundreds of millions of dollars
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: where you know he did everything creatively to make this
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: film and walked away with very little, almost nothing.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: The whale wasn't a model. He lasts a few years,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: but complications from his wounds eventually take him to that
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: meeting with his maker brother Tony, nephew Butchy, and the
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Colombos reclaim deep droats revenues, but it isn't long after
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: that home videos come along, pawn becomes mainstream, the big
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: profits are gone, and the Pirano family just fades into memory.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Hitman sile Mischioda gets out of the mob in nineteen
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: ninety three. He takes the stand against his former gangster
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: pals south spends a few years behind bars, but he's
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: out now.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I've never seen this film, Deep Throat. I don't want
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: to see it. To me, it's absolutely nothing. It's brought
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: nothing but trouble and heartache to a lot of people.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: And Big Sal counts himself as one of them. He
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't know if it was his shot that ended the
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: life of Veronica Zorah. In the end, he knows it
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: really doesn't matter. It's on him and it doesn't sit well.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I pray for forgiveness and I pray for her. She
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: was a good person that did good for people and
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I had a hand on her de mice and it
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: kills me, and you know, I deal with it every day.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: It hurts me every days.
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: Must be