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Chris Franjola, Charlie Sheen, Emmy’s, Meghan Markle and Thirst Trap · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 4: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 4: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 1: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have your favorite,
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  Speaker 4: as promised. You would know if you were part of Patreon.
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  Speaker 4: Go to heathermcdonald.net and join. Also on Patreon, also a podcaster, dad, blue-eyed,
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  Speaker 4: former model, turned funny guy, Chris Franciola.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: You blue-eyed delight. Thank you. In my Facebook group, the
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're fun over there.
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  Speaker 4: This woman said, I did run into Chris at the
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  Speaker 4: airport and he was the delight. That we all thought.
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  Speaker 4: And I just want to say, as a celebrity, I
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  Speaker 4: know it's not always convenient to talk to a Juicy Scooper.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so happy that she said that because it couldn't
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  Speaker 2: have been a worse time to see me. It was
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  Speaker 2: like right off the plane on like a shuttle to
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  Speaker 2: go get my car like six o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 4: Exhausted.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just exhausted. And just, you know, everything that happens
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  Speaker 2: on flight.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I pulled it together and I was nice.
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  Speaker 4: No, you were beyond a delight. She said he's everything
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  Speaker 4: we wanted him to be. Now, see, if you... Weren't that,
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  Speaker 4: then there'd be TikToks written about you. They would be
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  Speaker 4: looking to cancel you, trying to ruin your life because
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  Speaker 4: one day you were just like a little short with
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  Speaker 4: someone being tired. But thank God you've told yourself, I
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  Speaker 4: begged for this life and now I have it. So
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  Speaker 4: be a delight when someone's a fan.
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  Speaker 2: Can I give you another fan story that was a
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  Speaker 2: little strange? I don't know if you've ever had to
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  Speaker 2: deal with this. Somebody offered me, and it was very
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  Speaker 2: nice of them to do. I was in Dallas and
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  Speaker 2: they had a spa. And they said, would you like
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  Speaker 2: to come in for a massage on us, everything, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: I said, that would be lovely. So I went this
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  Speaker 2: weekend to a massage. And that's a weird one when
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  Speaker 2: the person is like a fan because you're almost naked.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, she was actually doing the massage?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought you meant they owned the spa.
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  Speaker 1: No, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So there was a lot of talk of like my–
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  Speaker 2: because I fell asleep during it. And then she's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you fell asleep. I was like, all right, I
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  Speaker 2: got it. But you just know that she'll be telling
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  Speaker 2: those stories– Now, that's like a weird place to be.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, did you know when you got offered the massage
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  Speaker 4: that the actual person who was the fan was going
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  Speaker 4: to be doing.
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  Speaker 2: They were all fans. Everybody there. Like, they were waiting
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  Speaker 2: for me. She invited family members to stand behind the counter.
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  Speaker 2: And it was.
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  Speaker 2: They were just like staring. It was a weird, I
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  Speaker 2: know I'm not that big a star, but for some
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  Speaker 2: people I am, you know what I mean? Like was
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  Speaker 2: it a.
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  Speaker 4: Six handed massage? Did they all get in the room
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  Speaker 4: and one person got a calf and the other person
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  Speaker 4: got a forearm?
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  Speaker 2: One person doing it, but it was just all, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what to, I didn't know how to prepare.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get completely naked anyway, but I certainly wasn't
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  Speaker 2: gonna for this. No way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't need them talking anyway. Wow. It's hard being famous.
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  Speaker 4: It really is. But thank God we were not famous
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  Speaker 4: enough because neither of us were at the Emmys last night.
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  Speaker 2: No, we were not at the Emmys.
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  Speaker 4: Could not be less jealous. No.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, is that the way I mean? I'm not
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  Speaker 4: jealous at all. Not jealous at all is what I'm
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  Speaker 4: trying to say.
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  Speaker 2: Did you watch it?
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  Speaker 4: I did. I did. I did watch it.
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  Speaker 2: Did you watch it, like, did you tune in at, like,
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  Speaker 2: 5 o'clock? Because here we get it live.
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  Speaker 4: I caught it and then joined in. Like, I looked up, like,
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  Speaker 4: the monologue, which was the sketch.
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  Speaker 2: They opened with a sketch, which was, I believe, a
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  Speaker 2: bad idea. I think they shouldn't have opened with a sketch.
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  Speaker 4: I first thought it was horrible. And then as it
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  Speaker 4: went on, I thought... Okay, this is why I think
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of... So there's a comedian or a
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  Speaker 4: funny content creator, and I apologize, again, once again, I
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  Speaker 4: did not write down her name, but she put on
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  Speaker 4: a gray hair and gray beard and did a very
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  Speaker 4: good impression of Nate, and it was her prediction of
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  Speaker 4: what the monologue would be. And it was so dead-on corny,
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  Speaker 4: like with the severance jokes and all that stuff, and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh my God, what if that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Literally some of the jokes. And so I kind of thought,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, if it's, he probably was like, you
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  Speaker 4: said when you got here, it seemed like he was
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  Speaker 4: a little bit, it seemed a little lazy. Can I
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  Speaker 4: say that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I didn't realize.
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  Speaker 2: As much as I, and I love names of comedians.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't realize this was a sketch he already did
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  Speaker 4: on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, from Saturday Night Live.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well. Yeah. I mean, that is a little.
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  Speaker 2: It was something, it was very similar. They did a
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  Speaker 2: George Washington sketch on Saturday Night Live that was like
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  Speaker 2: the biggest.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay. So then they kind of took that idea
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  Speaker 4: and made it this.
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  Speaker 2: And in the parameters of Saturday Night Live, it worked
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  Speaker 2: because they were all reading the cue cards and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And when you watch Saturday Night Live, that almost seems normal,
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  Speaker 2: but they were still doing it on the Emmys and
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  Speaker 2: it looked weird. It looked weird that they were like
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  Speaker 2: reading the cue cards.
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  Speaker 4: Like you could have memorized.
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  Speaker 5: It for this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought that was just an odd thing. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, it got off to a weird start.
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  Speaker 4: I first, I thought that it was so not funny.
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  Speaker 4: And then as I was watching, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that's clever. A streaming joke. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: You mean the sketch? The sketch.
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  Speaker 4: But I know you're right. I mean, listen, it's a hard,
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  Speaker 4: it's a really hard job. He's a clean comic. He's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, coming up. So you don't want to like
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  Speaker 4: alienate anybody that might hire you. So you're not going
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  Speaker 4: to pull a, y'all pedophiles, y'all pedophiles, whatever. You know,
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  Speaker 4: like no one wants to hear your political statement. Right.
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  Speaker 4: So it's just, I don't know. But then what did
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  Speaker 4: you think of the, so then he gets off, he
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  Speaker 4: does that whole thing. Then he comes out and he says,
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  Speaker 4: if you go over your time, this money from the
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  Speaker 4: boys and girls club.
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  Speaker 2: Is going to go down.
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  Speaker 4: It was a great idea.
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  Speaker 2: It was a funny idea that should have been left
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  Speaker 2: alone after that. I feel like it went, it was
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  Speaker 2: a joke that got beaten to death.
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  Speaker 4: Totally agree. What they should have done is just did
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  Speaker 4: that little thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then at the end, highlighted them and said, you
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  Speaker 4: know what? We're going to start. We got to be 350.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But if anyone else could donate, great. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: that they need to have the kids like on stage
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  Speaker 4: and stuff. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That was.
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  Speaker 2: I thought those might have been kids of celebrities, but
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  Speaker 2: they were kids of like.
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  Speaker 4: Boys and girls club.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you what the issue is with the
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  Speaker 2: Emmys and all these things.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They're in... First of all, the whole thing was like
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  Speaker 2: poorly directed, I thought. And I don't really know anything
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  Speaker 2: about directing, but I feel like it was just like,
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  Speaker 2: everything was clunky. Everybody had to walk too far to
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  Speaker 2: get to the microphone. There were bits, like the Golden
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  Speaker 2: Girls bit, I didn't even get it. Like this country
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  Speaker 2: singer singing the Golden Girls theme had nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with anything. Like I thought... Then they would be like,
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  Speaker 2: and now we're going to give away an award. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but it had nothing to do with anything.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought that was strange.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. So what did you, what bits do you think
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  Speaker 4: did work?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I honestly, you know, I mean, he's a friend
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  Speaker 2: of mine, but I thought Brad Garrett and Ray Romano
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  Speaker 2: were the funniest ones. I really do. I thought that bit,
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  Speaker 2: the banter between the two of them and Brad Garrett
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  Speaker 2: saying he thought his career was going to be better
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  Speaker 2: after Ray was just so funny. And will I make
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  Speaker 2: the In Memoriam is a funny idea.
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  Speaker 4: Very funny. A funny dark humor without being too dark. Yeah. Also,
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  Speaker 4: both looking great.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, wait a minute. That was 20 years ago.
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  Speaker 4: So you guys were like in your early 40s then
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  Speaker 4: and now you're in your mid 60s. You look great.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what Ray does for his hair. Like
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking, I always think men that are really... you know,
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  Speaker 4: getting up there. What they need to do, and it's
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  Speaker 4: going to cost a lot. You're going to have to
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  Speaker 4: have a guy come to your house like every two weeks.
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  Speaker 4: But you've got to just weave in some of the
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  Speaker 4: gray but still dye it. Oh, yeah. Don't go completely white.
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  Speaker 2: They do it. At Supercuts, they have a system.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, they do? I don't.
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  Speaker 2: They do. It's like a gradual system.
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  Speaker 4: It's genius.
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  Speaker 2: I see the ad for it.
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  Speaker 4: It's genius because, you know, if you start dyeing your
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  Speaker 4: hair too much, then it looks like weird red. And
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  Speaker 4: then if it's totally white, I mean, Peter has totally white,
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  Speaker 4: which is fine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're going to be an actor and you
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  Speaker 4: want to kind of stay in this look so you
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  Speaker 4: still look like yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Then, you know. Yeah. So that's the way to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So let's just talk about, you know, what's this guy's
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  Speaker 4: name from it?
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  Speaker 2: Pedro Pascal.
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  Speaker 4: Pedro Pascal chose to wear all white.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Genius.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people did.
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  Speaker 4: With his tan face.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was great. The only thing I watched
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  Speaker 4: that won was Hacks.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, here's Cindy Sweeney looking snatched and gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: She was bouncing out, huh?
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly what she should be wearing and looking like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what she's doing? I think we've talked
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  Speaker 2: about it before, though. But now her next five movies,
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  Speaker 2: she's uglying it up. And I don't think it's a
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  Speaker 2: good career move. She's going like, I'm going to play
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  Speaker 2: this boxer and put on 40 pounds. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: not yet. Wait a little while before you go doing
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  Speaker 2: those roles.
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  Speaker 4: No, I think it's right.
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  Speaker 2: Just do like a couple of like, I'm a surfer.
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  Speaker 2: That's the next role. And just bikinis and jumping in
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  Speaker 2: the water. You know what I mean, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I think she's doing everything right. Oh, yeah?
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: And then you show up on the red carpet looking
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  Speaker 4: young and snatched with your titties out.
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  Speaker 2: Um, how did you feel about all the men? Did
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  Speaker 2: you notice this? All the men, it's just like full,
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  Speaker 2: like nine buttons down like that. Every guy, like that
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  Speaker 2: guy from. I did not notice that. Walton Goggins. But he,
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  Speaker 2: his shirt was like down to.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I guess if you, if
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  Speaker 4: you're like worked out, I don't, I think it's good
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  Speaker 4: to do something different, like wear a different color. This girl, Lisa,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know who she is. She's a singer. Anyway,
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  Speaker 4: loved this dress. So both the women from Hacks won,
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  Speaker 4: which I love. It's actually a show I've watched. So
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  Speaker 4: many of them I have not seen. So that made
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  Speaker 4: me happy. And I do think they're both great actresses
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  Speaker 4: and I love their friendship. And there you go with that.
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  Speaker 4: The kid from Adolescence was the youngest one to ever
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  Speaker 4: win an Emmy. And I have not watched that show
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  Speaker 4: because I don't, want to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Does subject matter?
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  Speaker 4: The subject matter might be too close.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Just raising boys. And I just, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just, I've avoided it, but I,
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  Speaker 4: I know obviously it's incredible at one, like everything. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the guy that like wrote it, created it,
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  Speaker 4: who he thanked, you know, his wife ever. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he was, it seems, so maybe now I will bring
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  Speaker 4: myself to, to watch it. Um, Stephen Colbert making jokes,
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  Speaker 4: standing ovation. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know that was going to be the case. Oh, boo-hoo.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, boo-hoo. I don't know where these 200 people are
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  Speaker 4: going to get a job yet.
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  Speaker 3: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: That's the show business.
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  Speaker 4: Again, we talked about this last time we were here.
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  Speaker 4: No one cared about us when they just told us.
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  Speaker 2: To leave with no.
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  Speaker 4: Writer's guilt pay. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: He already has another job. He's got another job. He's
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  Speaker 2: already moving on to Netflix. They've already signed him. not
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  Speaker 2: a talk show, but something else.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So whatever. I mean, he's a nice guy and what,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but like, I just was a little like,
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  Speaker 4: Oh boo hoo. And it's, it's not a joke then
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  Speaker 4: if you've already been hired. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 4: What's funny about it then?
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  Speaker 2: The other thing is, it's just, I mean, I like
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  Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert. I don't really watch the show very often
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  Speaker 2: because I just don't watch late night TV and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not just not up anyway, but it, it's just a
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  Speaker 2: changing landscape of TV. Like they're all going to be
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  Speaker 2: done soon. It's just, he's just the first one.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Soon there's going to be a point where nobody watches just,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, most television, honestly, but especially Jimmy Kimmel
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  Speaker 2: and Jimmy Fallon, not anything political, anything like that, just
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  Speaker 2: because it's, they could watch like, let's say Jennifer Aniston.
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  Speaker 2: I think more people would rather see her in a
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  Speaker 2: two hour interview on a podcast like this than a
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  Speaker 2: seven minute, where they're doing the same shtick to promote
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  Speaker 2: a movie. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: When nobody wants that, it's just like cadence-wise, it's not
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  Speaker 2: what people expect anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder, you know how you always have to have
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  Speaker 4: that dumb little story that you tell?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Like with your dog or whatever. Then I wonder if
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  Speaker 4: they ever say... Like, I just want to make sure
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  Speaker 4: before you do 20 interviews that you save your dumb
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  Speaker 4: dog story at the restaurant for Jimmy Kimmel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We don't want it to be told four times.
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  Speaker 2: Right. That's what happens.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I wonder if they do that now.
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  Speaker 2: I think they have to. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Alan Cummins won for Traitors.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Of course he should win. He's like pretty entertaining. And
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  Speaker 4: he said, whatever, that was his weird outfit. Then this
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  Speaker 4: was all over. Sofia Vergara had like an eye infection
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  Speaker 4: and at the last minute couldn't go and had to
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  Speaker 4: go to the ER. And I thought, you know what though?
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  Speaker 4: That's the best thing that could happen to you. Because
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  Speaker 4: otherwise I wouldn't have even known to talk about you.
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: I know her job is she's a judge on America's
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: Got Talent, but like, I don't know, like definitely not
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: as relevant as when you were on the Modern Family.
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: So like this isn't the worst thing. So kind of
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: smart that.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: You like, I think she was, uh, I think, wasn't
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: she nominated for something? Isn't she playing like a drug
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Lord on a, in a Netflix show?
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, was she nominated? I wanted her to win.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she was, but I, oh, that
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: might've been last year. I got a lot going on
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: in my head and.
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: Some things just go away. You know, I, now that
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: we're saying that, you know, the way people will get
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: on someone, whether they misspeak on a reality show or whatever,
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: because there's a big conference going on Real Housewives FC,
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: which I'll get into on Thursday with Zach Peter. But
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: I was like, the amount of times that I've listened
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: back to my own podcast and I'll say, oh, we
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: were watching tennis with Vanessa Williams. No, I meant Venus Williams.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: Okay. And I'm walking and I'm like, oh, I know
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: that's what I meant.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: And I know that the people that love Juicy Scoop
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: are like, yeah. Or I'll say his dad, Charlie Sheen.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: I meant to say Martin Sheen. Yeah. Because I'm talking
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: about Charlie Sheen's dad. It doesn't happen a lot. Right.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: But it probably happens at least once or twice a
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: week out of the three episodes, including Patreon.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: And now four with Juicy Crimes. Make sure you subscribe
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: and leave a five-star review. Anyway.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: We don't have 200 people like Stephen Colbert.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm very impressed by anyone who just wants to
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: stumble over everything they say.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: My old brain. I mean, my God, we don't have no's.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: I don't have a, like, yeah, this stuff.
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• 15:55
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: home dad.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: happens next.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: not going to pull punches. You can use your voice
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: even if it's shaped.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, so listen. So I couldn't go to sleep last night.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, let me watch because I'm so excited
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: for you to come. So I'm like, let me just
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: watch a little of the Meghan Markle show, which is
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: second season on Netflix and not getting the buzz it
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: was getting. It was already, I think, shot and this
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: is second season and who knows what will happen after this.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: So as you know, she's in a house down the
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: street from her own house, which people get mad about.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't. I think it's a genius thing.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't want the lights set up in my kitchen
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: all the time. Anyway, she starts to make sourdough bread
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: from scratch.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: And it takes like several days.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: And they're like showing it. Is anybody really watching this
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: and going, okay, I'm going to make exactly what she makes?
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe if you're doing it for content, but
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: like in your real life where you're not filming it
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: for any reason.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: No.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: So Chrissy Teigen comes and anyway, I did fall asleep.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: And I just want to say, Meghan Markle should be
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: a lesson learned. To every person in the world to
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: not let the haters get to you. Wow. Because she
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: let the haters of the English press and the naysayers
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: around England that suddenly decided they didn't like her to
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: get to her.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: And she threw it all away, in my opinion now,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: to just do what the rest of us losers are doing. Podcasting,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: having a stupid cooking show. Literally any mom in Texas
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: is doing exactly what you're doing.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Being a mom influencer, making cute things, trying to act
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: funny when you're not. Like, why? You could have stayed
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: in London.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Okay? Been a princess and done the same cooking show
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: and done, I am going to do the greatest cooking
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: the greatest secret recipes from the royal family over centuries.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: And I'm going to attempt to make it as the
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: American princess that you love. And then we're going to
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: go and go to other countries and do it and
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: have fun. She could have done all of that while
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: staying the princess. And really, how many people can say,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I'm a princess? Do you know how many people can
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: say they're a podcaster or they're an influencer or that
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: they do cooking on TV? I can. Or they make
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: sourdough bread on TV.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Or that they have a follow my look.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: So how is the show? I mean, is it watchable?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, what is Chrissy Teigen? Did she bring anything
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: to it? Do you care?
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: No, there was nothing. Like there was no juicy conversation. Yeah.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: You know, everything finishes with the flowers, like on the food.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I did see a clip from that episode where I didn't,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I think they talk about being suitcase girls on Deal
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: or No Deal, which I didn't realize. Chrissy Teigen was
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: also a suitcase girl I think that's what I got
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: out of it they were talking about I.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: John Legend pops in for a second like he drove
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: her like he drove her to Santa Barbara maybe.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: He's waiting outside waiting for sourdough bread to be ready she's.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Like hi oh hey John Legend bye and then and
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: then she's like so I have to so she finally
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: has the bread done And she's like cutting it. And
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I'm just like thinking how I got, we used to
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: buy those sourdough rolls so delicious at the Israeli bakery
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: in Woodland Hills for like $ 6.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: 99.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: And I'm just like, what? This took me like five days.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: And then she's like, oh, and she's putting like chrysimian
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: on it, which is like my worst hated fruit on this.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: She's like, let's make a tartan. And she made a
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Thai tartan. iced tea for her or whatever. Cause she's Thai.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And. Well, I don't know.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I like, I don't know what I worry about her.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: At the risk of, at the risk of repeating myself
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: way too much. She does mention on this season of, uh,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: we love Megan that she worked at Mirabelle restaurant on
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: sunset Boulevard.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: She loves to mention every job that she's ever had.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: They must've told her like, mention a few more regular
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: people jobs that you had because the Humphrey yogurt thing.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: was a big deal. So now she's like, yeah, I
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: was a hostess at Mirabelle with, she didn't mention my name,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: but she should have. I think it would have gotten
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a little more eyes on the episode.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: I just wonder if there'll ever be a moment where
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: she's like, wow, I kind of played this wrong.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she thinks that way because.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I feel like she's living it. Someone's going to yell
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: at me and be like, Heather, she was suicidal. She
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: was so distraught about the noise. But again, you're the princess, okay?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: You're the princess. You don't have to look at your phone.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: You could tell your staff, please don't share any negativity
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: with me.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I just want to.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: If someone writes a beautiful letter, you know what? I'd
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: love to have that with my coffee in the morning. Coffee.tiamamerican.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And like, I don't know. I'm just so much about like, God,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: this shit should not rule your life. Okay. Because it
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: doesn't have to.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: It does not have to. So it's like, ugh. Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: But she also... Don't you think maybe they're like, you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I think we did the right thing. We're in a
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: gorgeous part of California. Beautiful weather. Great house, I'm sure.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: They're in Montecito. It's real nice up there.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: There might be like, you know, we did the right thing.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I think you could have played it. I think you
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: could have done both.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: It's like, I think you could have been just like
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: a president that goes to their, you know, ranch all
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: the time. Like she could have been like, I'm American.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: So we're going to, we're going to spend, you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: two months of the summer, every summer in Santa Barbara.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: All right. That's what we're going to do. That's when
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: I'll do my fun LA shit. Yeah. And then for
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: the rest of the time, I'm going to do my
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: princessy stuff. There's no way she can ever get it back. Yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It's over. But didn't he go back recently?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: No, I don't know that he's getting back with them.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Okay, let's talk about other people that
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: have made huge mistakes in their life. Charlie Sheen.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Let me just fix the Emmys for a second.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes. Please tell us. Yes.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: They do it in the venues too large. They do
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: it in a venue that's too large. Okay? When I
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: take over directing the Emmys next year.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: You need to break it down to put it in
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: a 400-seat theater. Just the celebrities. We don't care about
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the families and the other people working on the show.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Do that at a different night, okay? Whatever, another type
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: of Emmy that's un-televised. For the televised portion, just the celebrities,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the good-looking people, the cute outfits, 400 of them. It's
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: too big for people. The stage is too big. Did
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you see that pour?
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: So you're saying they can't even have a plus one?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: No, a plus one, fine. But I'm saying... Not the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: family members way up in the balcony. It's too big.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: The stage was too big last night. Everything got lost
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: in the bigness of the stage and everything. And I
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: thought that was a big problem.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I've said this before. I used to be excited to
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: watch this stuff. We used to watch this stuff as
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: a family. We used to know it. We used to
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: be cheering for our people when they won and love
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: their little funny quips that they said. Now I just
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: feel what I've said before. It's just not special because
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: everyone has Instagram because everyone has a podcast because there's
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: so many shows. There's too many to even be rooting for.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Menendez brothers didn't win. Dying for sex didn't win. Um,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: like everything I white Lotus barely won anything. Like I
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: just felt like everything I liked, like except for hacks,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: that was it. And so, all right, whatever. Um, Okay,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: now let's get to Charlie Sheen.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Two-part Netflix, I think, in general, done really well, very
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: entertainingly for a two-part doc. Yeah. Because I've said that
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Drake is getting very annoyed with how many docs there
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: are and how long the docs are. Because I, like
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: with William White, which we'll get to, I said, well,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: you watch this with me.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: I know that if he saw that it was two
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: parts that he would get mad and leave. And I said, oh,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: it's just one. I lied, lied to my son's face.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: It's just one. And then he was like, oh my God,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: like this is so, when is it? And then, so
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: he's now, he says, now for now on mom, if
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: it's two parts, you have to bring me in at
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: the top of episode two and just recap episode one,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: because I cannot take how long these are. And he's like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: when is the doc going to come? That's all about
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: how there's too many docs. There's a doc just about
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: too many docs and we watch too many docs.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll be honest with you. I, I kind of
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: agree with Drake on both things because, and I feel
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: like this Charlie Sheen one was where I got to
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the point where I'm like, I feel like we might've
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: jumped the shark with documentaries. Cause I know this is
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: a new, this is a new thing to like take
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: one celebrity. Like it worked with, um, I mean, even
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Harry and Megan had something. Yeah. And Salone has something
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and it's just like, all right, I kind of get
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the idea, but This one, by midway episode two, I'm like,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I think I got it.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: It's such an ego love letter to yourself.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: But I do think it was done well because at
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: least in him telling a story, we also had a
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: visual aid to it, whether it was his old home
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: movies or actual stuff he had done. So I actually
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: thought there was some real like, film, documentary-like work, editing
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: work that was put into making it entertaining.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you were talking earlier about Ray Romano and
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: his hair. I don't know what Charlie Sheen's doing, but
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: something was up with it. And if it's dyed or fake.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Do you think it's fake?
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It looks a little off.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: It just looks off.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I feel like he always had the hair, and Martin
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Sheen has the hair, and so do both the brothers.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: So I don't think it's fake.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's fake. I just think it's...
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: The color doesn't match the face perfectly. Right. That's all.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's even colored. I don't know. He
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: needs to go to Ray Romano's guy.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Who is doing Ray Romano's hair going to Charlie Sheen's house. Right.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: A lot was covered in this. And, you know, we
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: start out with his childhood and how he... He said some...
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: There were some interesting things that he said. Not only
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: was he a nepo baby, but he was actually a
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: really good actor that, like, everyone was like, oh, my God,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Charlie Sheen's even more exciting than Emilio Estevez because their
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: dad was... Martin Sheen.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Because of his little cameo in Ferris Bueller's Day Off
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: was the thing that kind of catapulted him into like.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Yes, and I totally do remember that leaving an impression
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: on me. Like, oh my God, that was such a funny,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: weird part. Yeah. And then I think that with... Like what... Oh,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: he says, you know, there's that expression, if at first
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: you don't succeed, keep trying. He's like, no one says
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: what happens when you succeed right away. Yeah. Like, you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: and being that he had that that privilege and love
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: of doing drugs, probably addictive genes, if that exists. Some
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: people say it doesn't, but I think it does. And
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: then just also knowing that as a man, can I
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: just say, as a woman, if a woman had that trajectory,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: if this happened to Julia Roberts after Pretty Woman, as
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: well as ever, now, just a minute, Pretty Woman, she
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: already did a little thing in Mystic Pizza. Pretty Woman,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: biggest movie. Everyone loves her. She goes off the fucking
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: deep end.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: And is not showing up on set and doing drugs
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: and everything. Would they give her seven more chances? Fuck no.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: But him and Robert Downey Jr. and like men get
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: the chances over and over and over again.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Lindsay Lohan's got a lot of chances.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: No, she really didn't. When she really fell off, it
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: was because they were like, well, we can't get anyone
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: to insure you anymore. And she really now is getting
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: these small chances with these cheesy movies. But that's after
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: she had to go hang out with Russian billionaires on yachts.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: And do things that no one wants to talk about.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Didn't she manage to take a Greek.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Restaurant for a minute? She had a reality show about
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: her beach club.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: She was dancing weird.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: She had to rescue Syrian refugees or whatever off the street.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: And she had an accent. I don't even know what. No.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of somebody.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: She had to be gone for a long time, get
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: a full-blown new facelift, and finally get to do something else.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: So anyway.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: With this, I thought it was, you know, really interesting.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: And I want to bring up... So he brings up
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Chuck Lorre, because that's when we were really covering it,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: when he had.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Chuck Lorre.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Chuck Lorre, when he had Two and a Half Men. Yeah.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: And it was kind of interesting, because I was like, wait,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: what happened when... So he got the show as a...
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: sober person after Spin City. And it was immediately a hit.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: And then because that height of success again, and he
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: had Denise and everything going for him. And that's when
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: he started to like use pain pills and start using again.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: So then she divorces him. And he still is on it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: And so then when does it happen where he, then
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: he starts fucking up, but then they still say, wait,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: I'm confused. So then he marries Brooke and he's like,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: I'm mad that they didn't stop the show so that
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I could be in the NICU with the twins.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: And they're like, well, we're not going to stop the
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: show because we've already sold like three years of ads. Yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: So keep coming. And then his behavior gets bad, but
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: they need him so badly that they give him $ 2
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: million an episode, right? Was that the order? And then
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: he's still like, fuck you. And that's when he started
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: to speak horribly about Chuck and the tiger blood and winning.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: And he's just like, oh, if you couldn't handle my brain.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I'm such a genius. I hate people like that.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I just go so fast. My brain's going so fast.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't be able to handle it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Well, he was completely drugged out at that point. Yeah,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: that was like a 60-minute interview or whatever it was
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: where he was completely off the rails.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: My opinion of the whole thing, and I actually like
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Charlie Sheen.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I like Wall Street and I liked Platoon and everything.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think I really watched Two and a Half Men,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: but I got it. I get the appeal of the guy.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: My parents loved it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so did everybody in the world. I got the
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: appeal of it. I think he comes off... And he
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: came off in this like a bit of a, I
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: don't know, privileged asshole. Like he, the guy got everything.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Got everything.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, and then I felt bad for the poor dad,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Martin Sheen, who like literally like had to go pick
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: this guy up from hospitals and shit and was just
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: like trying. everyone else in the family seemed to be fine.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Like the brother, the older brother, Ramon and Emilio seems
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: to be fine.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: So I wondered why his younger sister, who's 58 year
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: old actress that, um, I looked her up cause I
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: remember her from like an afterschool special, but she really
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: hasn't worked since like 2003. She wasn't part of it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: The mom, we never hear or see about the mom. Yeah. Um,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: I think there's something strange there. And then also, we
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: don't see Emilio.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Well, Emilio doesn't do anything. He stays out of the
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: limelight a lot lately.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Does he even work anymore or no?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think. He directs a little bit, but I
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: don't think so. Not much.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: And so, you know, I wonder. And then Brooke, his
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: wife number two.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: She seems to have it together.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: But she's clearly still using.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I know. It's just like.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this is the interview and this is what
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: you're wearing. Like this red t-shirt, Indian style. Like you
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: can't get any more put together to be on a
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: major Netflix doc.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I felt that way about every single, Denise Richards too.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, Jesus Christ, fucking put it together.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Well, at least she had like hair and makeup and stuff. Yeah.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: A little too much.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but then she's gotten like a little facelift, I think.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all that, whatever. I think everybody involved in it
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: is a little kooky.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad that you're talking about it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Even Sean Penn came off a little odd to me.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like really you have to smoke and scrape some
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Coke off your table in the middle of an interview?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: He was like doing chores. It's like, I'm sorry, are
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: we getting in your way, Mr.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Penn?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: He was about to paint the door, for God's sake.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: He's moving around.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: So true. Okay, so now I'm going to talk about
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: something that's going to be a little controversial.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Talk about an enabler. The best friend from Little League.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: The black guy, Tony.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, dude. You are an enabler.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Well, he said he was. He said something to that effect.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: And so I looked up, what did he do? What
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: was his job? Because he seemed to be there through
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: all of it. Yeah. Which is... There was a moment
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: when he's losing his mind and his tooth. He didn't
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: have a tooth. And he goes, I just got fired
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: from a Warner Brothers wedding. And then, like, you see
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Tony give him a fist bump. Like, oh, man, you
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: got this. That's not a good friend. Right. Like, a
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: good friend should be like, seriously, Charlie. Like, just, you
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: don't want to work with Chuck Lorre anymore? Fine.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: You don't need to bash him. You don't need to like, stop.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Let's get you, you know, whatever. No, he was just
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: always along for the ride. Whatever was happening, he was
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: there at Bale Mountain. And so then I looked it
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: up and I'm like, what has he done? And Drake's like, oh,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: he's did some film work. I'm like, what? He's like
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: a show called Anger Management, 29 episodes. I'm like, exactly.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: It's Charlie Sheen's show.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Look, he's lucky to have him. I'm sure he's a
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: good person. But he is the definition of an enabling
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: childhood friend to a big star.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: At one point, he actually says something of that to
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the effect. He says, I probably shouldn't have been there
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: during some of this, but I felt like I needed
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: to be. Otherwise, he'd be dead.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Right. That's what I'm saying. I mean, it's a very
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: hard position to be in. And then also, it's your livelihood. Yeah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: You're the paid best friend. You're the entourage.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was a couple of Nicolas Cage moments
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: where he's just like. I'm in the hospital. Get out
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: of the hospital. We got to go to this Hawaiian
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Tropic thing. And Nicolas Cage didn't give a shit. He
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: was just like, come.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: On, man.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: We got to go to Hawaiian Tropic party.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was pretty amazing. And then also that he
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: said that he lost his virginity to a professional sex
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: worker when he was 15. And I'm like, yeah, hello.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: That should fuck you up. That's why... teachers screwing their
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: 15-year-old students shouldn't happen. It's weird.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: It's weird. It made you weird.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: You know, that's why you had an insatiable appetite for, like,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: sex and prostitutes. Oh, the Heidi Fleiss stuff was my favorite.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that was pretty good.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with Heidi Fleiss. Anyone that knows Heidi Fleiss,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: I would go to Vegas to interview her. Now, I'm
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: sure she's done being interviewed, but I would do whatever
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: it took. I've been so fascinated with her life story.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: It was so great to hear her point of view
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: and also why he had to come forward because they said,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: if you have One prostitute for yourself, that's one thing.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: But if you've got three of them to come over
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: and your friends all partook, now that's like trafficking. And
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: you're looking at three to five years, which is why
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: he had to turn on Heidi Fleiss. And then Heidi
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Fleiss was like, fuck me.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: If you told me 30 years ago that Heidi Fleiss
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: was going to wind up with a lot of parrots
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: in her house, I would have been like, yeah, that
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: seems about right. She's now like an old parrot lady.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Which still looks kind of good.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: No, she, yeah.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Still like, everyone's, you know, thank God for plastic surgery.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Everybody kind of looks pretty preserved.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Actually, the next documentary, I would rather watch her in
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the parrot house.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure she already, I'm sure the people that
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: went to the parrot place already have a doc. And
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: I also think that Charlie will announce his podcast within
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: the next month.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you even a bolder prediction than that.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Are you ready for this? I am. I'm telling you,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: you watch. They are going to reboot Two and a
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: half men with Cryer and Charlie Sheen back. I'm telling you.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe not the kid because I know he's a little
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: off his rocker too and he's now 40. So they're
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: going to have to get someone.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Hold on.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Hold on. I got it. But Cryer and Charlie Sheen
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: come back to do something.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: It's two and a half men because John Cryer's son
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: left the grandson. The character of the clean cut son
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: has gone off. Yeah. And the two grandpas have custody
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: of now a kid that's like eight.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: And it's the same. They're the same characters.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: And they'll put it on Netflix because Leanne is on
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: a Netflix with Chuck. So Chuck has a deal at Netflix.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: You're right. I'd rather see that than him do another.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: John Cryer is going to have to do it on
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: his terms because he's like, no, if you want me.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not going through that shit again.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Also, John Cryer looks so much better bald at 58
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: than whatever he is, than he ever did on that show.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: So he could have a studly thing where what happened
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: to him in the past, he got married and got divorced,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: and now he's loving Tinder because there's just women coming
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: for him right and left. So finally he's getting laid
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: as the guy that never got laid because of the apps.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Right. Eight episodes in and out. You don't have to
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: do 20 seasons.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Just eight episodes. Everybody watches. Everyone loves it. John Cryer
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: gets paid again. I think he's doing fine. But he
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: always comes off relatively normal. I see him on a
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: bunch of podcasts and stuff. And he just constantly has
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: to talk about Charlie Sheen in Two and a Half Men.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: And he's probably like, I'm done with talking about this.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: But he still handles it well.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because his own life is normal. Yeah, he's a
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: normal guy. Yeah, and I think he's been in... married
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: to his wife for quite a while. And like, he
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: was like a news reporter and they've been together a
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: long time. So like, yeah. So then I think, um, yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: And then Charlie, you can write whatever backstory you want
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: for Charlie. Does he have like, you know, a couple
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: of divorced wives? Does he have, he should have a
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: daughter doing only fans. Yeah. He absolutely should. They showed, um,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: The other daughter that wasn't part of it, Sammy, she
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: posted saying, I didn't know I was the reason he
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: got sober because he talks about how he started drinking again.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: And she needed him to take her to her hair,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: get her hair done. And so he had like a
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: driver come and she was like, why? And he looked
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: at her face and he was like, I got to stop.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: I got to get sober again. So he does bring
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: up the Corey Feldman stuff.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: At the end.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: At the end. And ironically, he and Corey Feldman in
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: fedoras look alike.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Look so much alike.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I thought the same thing.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: It's kind of weird.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: And.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: core it's interesting because Corey Feldman is doing dancing with
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: the stars right now. And according to an article I saw,
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: he isn't going to the rehearsals.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Oh really?
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: But you know, he can dance like Michael Jackson. So
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll do something with that.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Watch that again.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: And he, for those that you don't know, Corey Feldman
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: put out his own documentary in which himself and several
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: other people that knew Corey Haim, who has since passed, um,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Said that when Corey Haim told them, allegedly, it's a
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: hearsay story, that when he was on the set of
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Lucas that he was assaulted or groomed or whatever you
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: want to say by Charlie.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: By Charlie.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Totally denies it.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Raped by Charlie Sheen.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: With the term they use.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: And he totally denies it in the doc and says,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I should have thought about suing. Well, I don't think
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: you could. I mean, you're saying it because someone's saying
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: a dead man told me this.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: And I'm just telling you what he told me.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: It's not Corey Feldman saying, I walked in on the
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: two of them. He's just saying he told me as
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: my best friend that that is what led to him
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: being really effed up over the years. And then there
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: were these other people that said, but his own mother,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Corey Haim's mother, said, no, that wasn't true. Well, a
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: lot of people don't tell their mother that they're being molested.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: It's probably the last person you want to tell. So
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: either he never told her or she doesn't want to
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: believe it or it didn't happen. Overall, you started to
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: get a little tired by the second half.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I got it.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Do you remember?
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like it was all just like a drug
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: addict behavior. And I feel like, you know, eventually it's,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: even with the Corey Haim stuff, I'm like, yeah, I mean,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: but Corey Haim had his problems as well. So I
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: feel like whether any of it's true or not, I
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: don't know. But I feel like it's all just like
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: drug addict behavior. of accusations, weird stuff like that. Right.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: And what I also can't understand is like when I
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: always remember this in reading people's autobiographies, whether it's Mackenzie
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Phillips or, This one guy that was on Mad TV
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: that was on Howard Stern, too. I can't remember his name.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Artie Lang. Yeah.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: They would write these stories of just being like, I
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: did this many grams of Coke and this heroin and
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: then this, and I was up for four days, and
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: then this happened, and then this person said this to me.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like, How the fuck would you remember?
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: That's the way I thought about Charlie Sheen.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Like, how would you remember? Like, how do you know
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: what your story is?
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Charlie Sheen seemed to have a lot of memories of everything.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: And we still don't know why his car twice in
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: a month went down the ravine without him in it.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: There was a lot of things.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: And also, I feel like he's had a pretty good, like,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: movie career. And there was really no.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I wanted to hear more about how did you get
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: the part on Wall Street? How did you handle working
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: on Wall Street? I felt like some of the stuff
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: was more interesting than hearing from his drug dealer.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Well, those will be the things that we get into
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: on the podcast.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: I think he'll do both. He's going to do the
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: podcast and he's going to do the Two and a
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Half Men. He'll quit the podcast after a year, but
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: the Two and a Half Men thing might stick.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: And in the podcast, yeah. you said you didn't know
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: what it's like to be a stockbroker, so how did
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: you embody such a perfect character?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: You know, that would be interesting.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Or how were you screwed up during the filming of that,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: or Major League, or some of the movies that are great.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah. He doesn't mention.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Anything about those. Just a quick clip of, maybe they
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: couldn't get the rights to something, certain clips or something.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I just think they're like, let's just, yeah,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: we've got to shorten it to the juiciest stuff, you know?
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure there's a part of him that was
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: telling too long-winded of a story, and they're just like, okay, Grandpa, like, Right.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: You know, let's get to the good stuff. But, you know,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Denise crying about how, you know, she still kind of
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: loves him and everything. And we now know her horrible
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: situation with Aaron, her now husband. So Aaron and she
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: are getting a divorce. And so people are saying the
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: same thing they said about the Pamela Anderson documentary of like, oh,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: she and Tommy should get back together. Nobody should get
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: back together. It's fine that they can get along because
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: they have kids. At one time, they're going to grandparent
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: together like Lucy and Ricky did. That's nice. But the
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: shit that Denise saw Charlie go through, you really think
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: she would ever want to be intimate with him again?
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: No.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Forget about the fact that he's admitted HIV and been
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: with men and prostitutes and everything else. How could you
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: ever lose yourself in that? and want to be with
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: him ever again in any intimate way. No way.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: But I feel like now that this girl, Denise Richards,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: with this guy that she's currently with, I feel like
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: we're seeing some patterns here.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, I think she... And then.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I saw the guy posted a video of the inside
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: of their house.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: So he decides to take everybody... He going on a campaign,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: and I told Denise this when I saw it at
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: the Kathy Hilden party, I go, Aaron going on a
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: campaign to try to win over Your fans?
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Good luck.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: You are never going to win over anybody. You have
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: your family, both your parents and your brother, living in
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: a house that she has not lived in for at
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: least two years, maybe four years.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: And he takes the insider edition people upstairs to show
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: her messy bathroom and her messy makeup. And he's like,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: this is how we have to live in squalor. clean
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: it up, fucker. Like, clean it up. She's not there.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: You have 15 dogs? Then take all the dogs to
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: her house. Get a kennel to pick them all up
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: and take them if you don't want them. Like, both
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: of you, like, it's your... You care about your elderly parents?
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Why do you have 15 dogs around them? Then send
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: them off to Canada. Leave the property. Yeah. She's trying
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: to get you to leave.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: What does this guy do that he got Denise Richards?
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: And.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you exactly what happened. It's hard enough for
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: people to meet people. You hear all the, I can't
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: meet a person. And this guy was like, hold on.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Before it's like all this stuff that you probably know
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: about me already. And my parents are coming along to
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: live here as well. It's like, how do you get
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Denise Richards?
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Okay. First of all, he is a good looking guy.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: All right, fair enough.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: So he did some rinky, some weird thing about like, oh,
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: get your chakra right. And he actually had office space
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: in Malibu.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Chakra office?
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's not even chakra, it's something else.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: It sounds like it's a cross between the machine that
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: you do at Scientology And another one that like reads
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: your color aura. Okay. It's just some bullshit stuff. I
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: don't care. It's bullshit people.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: So she goes and she gets her chakra right because
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: he has a big dick and they have sex.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, he went to, she went to his business?
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: She got an appointment at his place. Yeah.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, and that's how they met?
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: And they're instantly like attracted to each other. And, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: I think that, you know, he was a different vibe
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: for her. Like he's like, not an actor and a
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: fit guy, and she has the two daughters, and then
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: she had a daughter that she adopted who, you know,
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: at birth, didn't know until the little girl was three
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: that she, like, was nonverbal special needs. He seemed really
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: receptive to being a stepdad or dad to that child.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: So I think that was all there. And then she
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: told me, like, I never wanted to get divorced again
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: because of divorce. Charlie was so horrible. He was, he
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: was saying horrible things about Denise and the press, Charlie
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: and everything. So I think she just put band-aids on it.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: And part of the band-aids was they had all these different,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: like the condos that they would live in separately from
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: each other. Let the parents have this one.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: And I think, and then they do this reality show.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: And I think now it's like, Yeah, but she has
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: claimed that he physically abused her. He says, oh, that
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: was that bruise on her eye was makeup. She, you know,
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: my poor elderly parents, we're not allowed to go upstairs
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: and touch her stuff. What are you saying? Like, even
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: if you didn't, like, don't throw away your stuff, but
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: you could at least box it up.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: You could at least clean the rat droppings. Like, what
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: are you talking about? Like, it's just like, The four
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: of you don't have jobs. The two old parents, you
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: and your brother, and you're strapping, like you have a,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: like clean it up. What are you doing all day?
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I feel like the real problem here is everyone has
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: too much shit. I mean, I looked, I can't look
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: at that clutter. I mean, I'm like a weirdo. I
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: watched that video and I see that even like the
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Gene Hackman, when they, I've seen videos of the inside
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: of their home, the wife. And, and I was like,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: oh my God, everyone's just got too much moisturizer. You
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? I know we all, I know
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: you try one and it doesn't work.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: I know you got to really like force yourself.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: And then you don't want to throw it out. Cause
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: it's brand new. So you're like, I'll keep this one.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to use it again. But next thing
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: you know, your counters rule.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: You don't have to go through a purge.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: After seeing that photo.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: Of all her makeup, I'm like, yeah, I got to
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: like purge mine a little bit, but that's what I
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: think with that.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Now we're going to talk about William White, William White,
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: took over TikTok sensation and he was on Juicy Scoop.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: He was?
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: He was on Juicy Scoop because I thought- I was,
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: because of the way TikTok works, because of my age
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: and demographic, I was one of the women that TikTok
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: thought I would get wet for him. And he would
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: lip sync these songs. Not well, by the way. No.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: Never bothered to learn the words of the song.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: No.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: He'd be like, Oh, Mandy.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, Mandy. Yeah.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: He couldn't even do it. But he was a babe,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: and he kind of had long hair, and he's from
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Canada with sparkly blue eyes and perfect white teeth. And
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: they thought people, all these women were stitching it and
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: getting excited. So I had him on the show, and
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: I did think he was not smart.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: No, he seems, he comes off very smart. I mean,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: oh my God, this doc, I couldn't even watch. Everybody
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: was so dumb in this documentary. Not only him, everybody.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: The dumbest, I literally said I have never, out of
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: all the documents, documentaries ever seen about women being taken,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: love con, tender swindler, dirty John, you know, a 90
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: day fiance, whatever it is. I have never been more
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: embarrassed to be a Gen X woman than this doc.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: If you ever want to just say what the hell
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: is wrong, how desperate are we?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Anyway, the doc is called Thirst Trap. It's on Paramount +.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's watched it, but you told
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: me to watch it, so I did.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, I made you watch it.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I was dying. I was dying. I just was shocked
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: at how dumb everybody was. I know that's kind of
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: what they probably wanted. But man, it was one of
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: those ones where I once again agree with Drake. I
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: was just over it. I watched the whole thing. But man.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of good-looking men out there who sing songs.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why everybody got caught up in this dope.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I'm going to explain what it was. It was twofold, okay?
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: It was one that the women, it reminded them of
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: like a high school boyfriend because of the songs that
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: he was singing and his look was like a little
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: from that era. But the second part is what was interesting,
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: if you're big on social media and Facebook groups and
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: things like that, the women found each other. Yeah. And
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: they had their little fun group. Right. And where they
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: all like, like, love the same thing. I see it
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: a lot in my world with the Bravo stuff. Yeah.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: And why it's fun to, like, go to BravoCon and, like, make,
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: we have our little group and everybody has their little
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: names and, you know, like, I mean, I had an, yeah, like,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoopers, whatever.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: But, But this was obviously a smaller niche and it
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: was about this guy. And yeah, if it was a
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: bunch of 50-year-old men pining after a 21-year-old girl in Canada,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: it would be weird. But they do have that. It's
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: called OnlyFans. I mean, they're... So what was crazy is
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: so then these women... And I'm going to spoil it
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: for you because you don't need to sit through it.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Sorry. No, save your time.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: So these women... go and they get him a ticket
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: to go to Amphar Gala in Miami or wherever, and
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: then one of the youngest of the women who has
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: also got a bit of a social media following, he
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: flirts with her and they fuck. They go upstairs and
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: they fuck. Well, that's what happens in all of these
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: groups without sex or whatever. When a fan gets too
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: close to the star, whoever they're following, Then they turn
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: on her. Oh my God. Like, how did you get
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: to fuck them? Like they all turn on her. So
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: that was crazy. And then the other thing that was
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: interesting is that this other woman that's part of the
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: interview with the horrible, the older, like 50 year old
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: woman that was an only fan with a weird bedroom.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: She was like, um, saying, I don't think that his
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: little sister should be featured. in the videos, like parenting
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: his mom and her because the little girl was obviously
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: being exposed to millions of people because his following was
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: so big. And so then she felt like he came
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: after her and then she came after him with these nudes.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: So then here's the juice. Then all he and his cousin,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: who's a man, they have, they're like the same age
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: and they're like doing jerk off videos together.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was, yeah, that was strange.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: And he just was like unapologetic about that too. Like,
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: just like Charlie Sheen, not that you should be, but
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: he just had no explanation for it. He was just like, yeah, anyway,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't think I looked that good in it, but okay.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, did you put them out yourself?
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: And she even said that she goes, he may have
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: just put them out himself. Like, how did they get them?
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: They had hundreds of jerk off videos.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And it was just so weird. And when I
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: talked to him, I was like, well, I think you
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: should get into acting and everything. And he's like, yeah.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: He mentioned that at the end that he's going to
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: get into acting. I can't wait to watch that guy
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: do anything. I mean, what did you get into? It
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: was like just hot tar roofing or something, because that's
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: where it's going, right?
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: Well, he was a landscaper before.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to be like the handsome landscaper who
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: shows up now.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: Well, this is what he's up to. So I went
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: to his thing, and I cannot believe how different he looks.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the handsome eventually wears off.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, but I've never seen such a big difference
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: in like four years. Like he really like lost all,
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's a good looking guy, but like he
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: lost the baby face. Yeah. And by cutting the hair,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: he's not as cute. And maybe he did have like
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: a good filter. Maybe he was using filters or lights
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: or something.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I think it was a little filter.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And then, so, you know, then he's like, oh,
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: I was smoking weed and, you know, jerking off my cousin.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: And this one woman, she's like 60. And she goes,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: I think I gave him over time about $ 250, 000. And
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: she never got to meet him.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: No.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: She didn't get to fuck him in Miami like the
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: other woman did. And now I see that he's doing like,
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: William White will call you. Now you can sign up
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: and have him call you into a FaceTime. Prior to that,
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: he also did the mistake that people do when influencers
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: get too big too fast, which is, They start to
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: rip on their fans.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Kind of like... Me? No. Kind of like Matt Rife, too. Like,
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: I don't want all these girls. I'm funny to men, too. Like,
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: not that he's doing fine. It doesn't hurt him. But
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying with William White, like, he was like,
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: somebody had, you know, very expensive luggage, like, delivered to
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: his house. And then he gets on there and he's like,
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: you guys shouldn't know where I live. And they shouldn't. Right. Right.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: But then that's the problem. Like now the fan becomes
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: a hater because now you've like, and then that one girl,
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: that one brunette girl is still like, I was just like,
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: she was one day I looked out and when I
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: started watching William White videos and then before I knew it,
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: it was dark out and I just watched like eight
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: hours of it. And I'm again, I'm like, so then
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: I started watching like the revenge con or the con
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: of the revenge or something. Which is not very well done,
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: by the way. This is on Netflix too, which I
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: think they found a bunch of stories where women were
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: love con fraud, meaning they love bombed you and they
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: had multiple women and they took money from you. So
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: it's like a triple embarrassment, okay? It's not like just
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: a cheater. It's like a cheater who also you gave
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: them a whole bunch of money. And so I'm watching
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: it and I'm like, I feel like they had the
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: whole thing solved and they basically like cast these people
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: to act like they're like two women that are detectives
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: together anyway. And every time I see it, it's just
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: like so sad that a woman wants so badly to
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: have a boyfriend.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what it seems. Just like desperate.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I just read a study that... I didn't read a study. Like,
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: I read a study. No, I saw someone that said,
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: I read a study. Okay. Okay, sure, sure.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: It told me what it said. Yeah, I understood.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: And they said, the happiest demographic of women... are single
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: women with adult children. Either they're widows or divorced or
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: just not in a relationship. Ladies.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: You think that? Do you agree with that?
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Probably.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Because this is the only alternative. Literally every love con
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: situation is with a woman in her late 40s or older.
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Who is like, finally, this guy that looks good, he's
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: calling me every day, telling me we're going to have
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: this business together. And then he just needs $ 25, 000. And
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: then we're going to, we're going to help the children
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: and dah, dah, dah, dah. And it's always that.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: And it's like, God, I don't, I honestly think, I
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: don't think this guy took enough advantage of it. Honestly.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, at 19 and just living in Canada, you know,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: he probably was just like a regular, it seemed like
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: it just judging by his house and everything. He's just
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: a regular guy. He lived at home.
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like he should have taken them for more,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: even more money. Like if you're going to be that dumb.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: But see, then what also happened is then he started
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: to get a lot of hate.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: Cause then they were like, this guy's a fucking loser.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Like they were over him. It's been two years. He's
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: not the hot thing anymore. And then they're turning on
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: him and being like, Oh my God, he lives, he
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: still lives with his parents and this and that. And
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: so then he kept quitting social media and then he'd
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: come back on cause he knows he's.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: That's how the thing ends. He says, I quit, and
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: then I was back.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because he had no other way of making money.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: So what does he do now?
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: That's a cameo. How can you believe people that... William
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: White wants to talk to you, 55-year-old you, after you've
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: watched this doc? How would you ever believe that anything
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: he says to you is sincere again?
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Well, he did fuck the one lady. She got it.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: She was the cutest of the bunch. And then there
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: was another one. There was somebody else that he like got,
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: but nobody else did. And they were just like, and
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: then the one woman saying like, if you don't go
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: on live today, I'm going to end my life. And
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just like, I guess.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Well, these people obviously got some sort of psychological, there's
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: problems there. Like that one woman who was giggling and,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: you know, talking about going to the same restaurants he
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: goes to and stuff. She's obviously off.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: And then they'd be like, Hey guys, like they're a
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: little weird group. let's get all together and fly to
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: Canada and see if we can find him at Tim
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: Norton's or whatever that place is. What is that place called?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Tim Norton's, the coffee place.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like their McDonald's or whatever.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: But this is when you need a family member to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: step in and go, listen, what the fuck is wrong
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: with you? You know what I mean?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: Well, I think they're hiding it. Like I don't think
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: they're telling their 25 year old daughter.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Oh really?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: What are you up to mom? Well, I'm part of
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: the William White fan club and we are all going,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: we just, I just donated $ 3, 000 so that he could
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: go to Amphar and we're all going to go there
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: together and we're going to rent a house. I mean,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: they're desperate for two things. They're desperate for love. Yeah.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: And like, you know, having sex again or a fantasy
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: of that. And they're desperate for friendships because they are
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: that demographic. Like their kids are grown and they're single,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: which I'm like, God, it shouldn't be around like a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: weird person. It shouldn't be around Mel Robbins. It shouldn't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: be around, you know what I mean? It shouldn't be
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: around all these people, all these like, you know. Mel Robbins.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like what you got to do.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: It could be around me though. It could be around me.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: You don't have big enough glasses. You got to put
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: on the big glass. If you want to start giving
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: out sage life advice, I feel like that's the new
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: way to go. Big giant black glasses. And then you
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: could say, first thing you do when you wake up
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: in the morning is say, I'm good enough. I'm good enough.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: I'm good enough. And I'm going to roll out of
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: bed until I tell myself you're worth it. Yeah. You're
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: worth that cup of coffee. You're special. You're loved inside.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: And if someone doesn't want to invite you to that party,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: let them. And if William White wants to steal $ 100, 000
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: for you, let them. It's a new day. It's a
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: new day for you to grow and be strong. What
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: is crazy is the life coaching and the advice. And
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: I mean the amount of like scammers out there and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: like that is, it is just fascinating. And the amount
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: of women that do it too. Women are the new scammers.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: Like if it's one thing we've accomplished.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: They're doing the scamming or getting scammed.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: A lot of them are influencer scammer people that love
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: the attention. They, and then they, they always throw in
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: like a fake disease.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, they have it?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, there's so many now. There's so many. There's like
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: five long-form podcasts right now that I've listened to that
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: are all the same story. A cute blonde girl that
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: gets people to believe that she's also a nice, cute
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: blonde girl and she's actually a scammer.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: And she's just taking your money and she's just lying
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: and you're just watching her thing every day and you
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: think she's just like this powerhouse of a young mom
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: that's like, you know.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever, you know, we never fall
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: for the scams. I was always very, I like to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: think at least, I was always very aware of scams.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: My whole family, we grew up in a very everything's
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: a scam household. Everything was a scam. Everything. So much
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: so that we probably missed out on some opportunities because
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: my father came from a school of, Christopher, that's a scam.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Everything was a scam.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: I feel like.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: My mother got burned one time on towels. She saw
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: an ad on like it was the Today Show or something.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: You know where they go? Deals of deals of steals.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Deals of deals.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: And my mother, they were giving away towels, like four
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: towels for like five dollars. My mother went for it
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: and they showed up to the house. This is back
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: when you have to wait like nine weeks for stuff
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: to be delivered. They finally showed up and they would
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: just dish towels like shitty dish towels, not. Nice beach towels. Oh,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: and I remember, oh, the house was in an uproar.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I told you, they don't sell beach towels for $ 15.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: It's a scam.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: I have been scammed a few times by men. Really? No.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Like giving them money?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, three times.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Before Peter?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Before Peter. How much money?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Peter's been scammed for 25 years.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Scams on you.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: The ultimate scam is Peter's the grift.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: No, these are the three scams. Okay. The first one
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: was this guy who said he was going to manage me. Yeah.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good, that's a, when you're.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: In our business. And I gave him $ 180 because he
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: said his phone was going to turn off. And I said,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: if I don't give you $ 180, how's anyone going to
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: find me?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: How Paramount Pictures is not going to be able to
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: get through. Okay. That's not so bad.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: 180.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: Then, uh, there was this other guy named Theron who
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: was this black guy that I met who was gay
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: and he would, um, call, we would go to Manhattan
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: beach and he'd get cute white guys numbers and then
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: call as a pretend to be a black woman that
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: wants to have phone sex with them.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: And that's how he made money.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: No, I just thought it was fun. Yeah. It was
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: just like a fun story. And I think I gave
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: him like 150. Not a lot.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: Not a lot.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Just whatever.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: And I even think I said, you don't have to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: pay me back. This is like a gift. I think
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: I was like working on the Keanu Reeves show. So
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: I was like. Yeah. I'm not going to die.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Without the 150.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: So, so far you're not in too far.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: And then there was this guy. Now this is a
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: real scam story. So he, I was at a Starbucks
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: like reading a movie. Like I love, like back then
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: if I had an audition for something. they would have
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: a runner drop off the script for me like two
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: days before in person, like a readable thing. And then
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: I would go to the Starbucks at like on 7th
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: Street in Santa Monica and read my script and look
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: like I've got some shit going on. Circling the line, highlighting,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: you know, never got any of the parts. And so
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: this really cute guy is like, what are you doing?
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: And he starts talking to me and everything. And his
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: name was Craig. And I, I gave him my number
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: and he was like New Yorkie. And he was like,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: had a arm, like tatted arm, but he was like
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: dark haired, like a cute, like Mickey Rourke at his cutest,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: at his cutest way back. Okay.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: So then he, um, and when he left, this girl goes,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: you didn't hear what he was talking about to that
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: other girl because you had your like earphones on. Um,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: she's like, but he was like talking about how he
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: did like was in prison and stuff. And I was like, whatever.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: I think it sounds fun. So he calls me and
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: he picks me up and he takes me to a
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: nice restaurant and he, um, he's sober, but he's wants
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: to smoke all the time, but he's like, have a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: glass of wine, have a glass of wine, whatever. So
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: we make out and I'm like very attracted to him.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: And we go out again and do something. And then
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: he calls me to say that his car was stolen.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: And, but because he did these white collar crimes that
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: caused him to go to prison when he was, he's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: like a wall street guys told me. And he has
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: like the bad credit and he can't rent a, a car.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: So I agree to rent the car. And now this
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: is where the scammer thing happened that I just saw
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: in the love con thing. Right away. He goes, here's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: $ 500 right now for me, for me to rent this car.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: Like here, take it. Cause it's on my thing. He's like,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: I'm going to pay you back when I just don't like, well,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: then he doesn't return the car.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Oh shit.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: So you run into like a Hertz or an Avis,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: like a legitimate place.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: And he's not returning it. And now he's like blowing
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: me off.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: So he's driving somewhere.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Holy shit. And he tells me he got in a
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: car accident with it. Yeah. So I'm like, Oh my God,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: I have got to get.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: And it's under your name.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: And now it's probably up to like $ 1, 700 that I owe.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: So even the 500 he gave me in cash, which
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: I've already spent, now I have $ 1, 700 on my credit card.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my God. So the guy that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: I lent the 182, the old manager, he was AA too.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: So he goes, fuck, I'm still talking to him, never
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: getting my 180 back, but I'm still talking to him
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: because why would I cut someone.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Out of my life?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: So he calls, so he's like on three-way. And I,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: and he's like being a total dick to me. He's like,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: you're just, he's like, I don't know what happened to
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: you in your childhood, but what I'm like, Craig, I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: just want to return the car. Like it's in my name.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: Let me just get the car and return it. You
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: don't have to pay me. I just need to return
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: this car. And then the manager slash guy that I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: owe the money that owed me the 180. goes, listen,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: you fucker.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: So all the scammers are on a three-way call.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so then he goes, listen, you fucker, like
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: to Craig. He's like, give her, let her get her
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: car back and da-da-da. And then he like hangs up,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Craig does, and calls me back and he's just yelling
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: at me like you're such a fucking bitch and i
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: go oh my god how and he's like fine come
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: over today and i'll give you the keys so he's
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: staying at this like nice like apartment overlooking the ocean
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: like in santa monica So I bring this other guy
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: that's not a scammer from Groundlings. He drives me.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: You brought a guy from Groundlings to beat up this ex-convict?
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Some improv guy? Okay, what are we going to do first?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: Exactly. Well, that's why he, like, of course, any other
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: guy would go, no, I'm going up with you. But
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: he was like, no, I'll stay in the car.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, fine.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: So I go up there. I'm like, hi, you know, hi, Craig.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: Can I get the keys? Whatever. And he comes up
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: to me and he starts screaming at me really loud.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: And I'm backed in a corner and he's like, I
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: don't know what your dad did to you. Like, just
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: try and like, whatever.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: And I see in the little bowl, I see, you know,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: when you get a Reddit card, they always have that
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: little plastic.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: Like whatever they're. And he turns around and he's like, God,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: you're just so fucking frustrating. And then I ran and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: I got it. And I run out the door.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, I got out of a movie.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: I know. And he told me where it was. It
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: was parked down the street. And here he kept his
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: place impeccable. He always had cologne on. I get to
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: the rent-a-car. It's disgusting. Jamba juice, food, everything, everywhere. And
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: so then, but like what I was saying about the
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: scam thing, like the first couple of dates he paid for,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: Gave me that $ 500. That's where the scam... They always
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: pay for a few things up front.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: And then... So then when they ask you for something,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: you're like, oh, well, he's good for it. He's so
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: generous before. It's just because he left his credit card
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: in the wrong house or whatever. So then I get
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: the car, clean up, throw everything away. I return the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: car and it's like $ 700 or whatever that I owe.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good scam story.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: And then I see him like... a year later at
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: a restaurant, like out of date. Oh, and I went
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: right up.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Everybody moves on.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: I went right up to him like, hi, Craig. And
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: he's like, Oh, Hey, Heather. He's like, she's a comedian.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: And then I'm like, yeah, I just got a deal.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: That was the worst thing you said. That was the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: worst thing.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: I go, I just got a deal at CBS and dah, dah, dah.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: And I did for a minute, you know, I didn't
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: go anywhere, but I did have a deal at CBS.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: And so I'm like, why wouldn't I just be like, hey, you're,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: you know, but I just, at 27 or whatever, whatever
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: it was, 30, I just didn't have that, like, wherewithal
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: to be like, you're a piece of shit. You need
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: to watch out for this weirdo.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Don't rent him a car.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: And then because it wasn't like, there was no Instagram
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: or anything like that, I have no way of knowing.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: I'm 99% sure he's dead, for sure. Because he was
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: like 10 years older than I am too, so I'm
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: sure he's dead. Yeah.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: God, I miss the days of like, I feel like
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: I had a couple of those incidents. I feel like
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: now I'm in the shoes of the improv friend. I
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: had a couple of loose cannon girls who I hung
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: around who would ask me, this boyfriend is coming over.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: I remember vividly, I was at this girl's apartment in
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: some shithole on Sweets or in West Hollywood. And she's
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: on the phone like, uh-huh, uh-huh. She had a crazy roommate,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: a girl. And she's like, uh-huh, uh-huh. And then she
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: hangs up the phone and she looks at me. She goes,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: can you fight? I was like, what? I swear to God.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: She goes, my girl, my roommate's boyfriend's coming over. He's
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: fucking crazy. He's drunk. He beats her up and you
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: got to fight him. And I was like, what? Like now?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: She's like, yes. Turns out the fucking cop showed up first.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, it was the craziest story. Those are
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: like wild. That was like late 90s where there was
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: no internet.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: Well, in the Charlie Sheen thing, he has a story
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: where he goes, I was dating this girl and so
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: was C. Thomas Howell. And she called me and she goes,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: I need to be extravated. How did she say it? Yeah.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: How did she say it? Ex-cra-vated? Or like.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she meant... Extracted. Extracted.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: I need to be extracted from this situation. And he goes,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: I go over there and he goes, and it's some
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: shit apartment.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Woodland Hills, he says.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: Like, Woodland Hills.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: Peter and I were both watching it at the same time.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: We just start laughing.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: And so then he gets her and it's the same,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: you know, same thing. And the only reason like, you
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: thank God he did have the gun.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you that story when you're selling us.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh my God, I wasn't like 10 of
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: those situations in that same era of Hollywood, like just
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: crazy people.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: And then she's the one that got him into crack.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then she wound up dying.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: He said, yeah. And he's like, Oh, such a waste.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: Such a, I'm like, I don't know. She got you
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: addicted to crack.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: Was her life really going in great places?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like all the drugs that he did had definitely,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: he's definitely off now. Yeah. You could definitely sense that
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: there was something off about him.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: If you were Chuck Lorre, would you trust getting into
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: business with him again?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the only thing that would keep me
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: from my prediction is like, would people be like, we're
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: not doing this again, you know? Otherwise, I mean, who knows?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Or is it the kind of thing that you just,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: you kind of age out of relapsing.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: That's like, I mean, you're 60 years old.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: Like, are you really going to like, yeah, the whole
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: world knows you have your HIV positive. You're like, I
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: Like maybe you've just done it all. And if you
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: really have been sober for seven years, I mean, that's
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: a pretty good testament to it.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: The other thing was he kept mentioning kids here and there.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Like he had a kid when he was like 18.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. She's 40. Yeah.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Never another mention of her. Then the two boys that
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: really was with Book Mueller.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: We see the one boy at the end. The one boy. Yeah.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: And then the notes he was leaving the kid on
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: like his Lunchables and stuff. Like, I guess that was
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: supposed to be cute.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: Oh, fuck yourself, Bob.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: I was like, all right. This is just like wacko behavior,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: you know, where I'm like, thank God I didn't grow
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: up in a world where I had to open my
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Lunchables and say, you're a fuckwad. I'm like, how cute
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: dad is.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: A lot of years ago. Jill Zarin is like, I'm
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: in town. Come. I'm going to take you to a
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: real fun lunch. And the new Beverly Hills housewife is
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: going to be there. And I go. And it's Adrian Maloof.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: Who, at the time, was married to Nassif.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Dr.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: Nassif, who is the one who calls to help Charlie Sheen,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: the nine-woman call.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: On one of the times he was about to die.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: Then Jill knew Brooke Mueller, his second wife, the mom
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: of the twins, mother. And so she was there. Brooke
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: was there. The whole Aspen thing had already happened. She
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: was supposedly sober again and going through the divorce with Charlie.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: And then Adrian Maloof was going to just about start
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And Patty Stanger was there.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: And I sat right across from Brooke because I was like,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: oh my God, I need to know more about this woman.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: And then... And I mean, she was just kind of
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: like her nervous, like weird self, but like she didn't
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: have anything to drink then or anything. But I think
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: she's been in and out of rehab like 21 times.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And then at one point, and at one point, yeah,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: she definitely seemed she was a little on something, but
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: he even said, he goes, her timeline of getting sober
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: is different than mine. That tells me she's not sober.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: And then, and then he, um, And then my greatest,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: the weirdest show is when Kathy Hilton and Paris Hilton
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: decided to do a reality show and they made Brooke
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: Mueller their mutual best friend.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: Wow. And she falls off a sobriety train again during
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: the taping of the show. And they're trying to set
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: her up on dates.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Not to stay on this Charlie Sheen thing too long,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: but we failed to mention that you and I were
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: in the room while the tour was being... planned the
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: Charlie Sheen breakdown tour that they talk about a lot
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: in this. Remember that? Chelsea was on the phone with
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Jeff Wills, who was the head of Live Nation at
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: the time. He was saying, you're not going to believe this,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: but I'm literally sitting with Charlie Sheen right now planning
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: a tour. And we were like, what? Literally that afternoon
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: we were watching the Tiger Blood videos. And he was like, no,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: I know. That Charlie Sheen, Tiger Blood guy, is in
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: the office of Live Nation planning the tour. And they
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: did it. That part was fascinating to me.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: And that was kind of interesting that it was like
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: a disaster. And they're like, well, don't worry that, you know,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: he's like, everyone just says tell stories. Yeah, you got
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: to have like a show. You got to have something planned. Like,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: what do you think? And they're like, well, you have
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: the most Twitter followers in Chicago, so that'll be great.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: And then all these other people are like, no, it sucks.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Don't even bother.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: Sell your ticket or get rid of it or whatever.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, he was really the first person that
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: did these like, I'm just famous. Come buy a ticket
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: and hear me like talk things.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Thank God they kind of ended. You don't really see
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: much of that anymore.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: I feel like you do. Well, it's a little around
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: housewives and podcasters and stuff.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: But speaking of another weird thing that happened. So there
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: was this weird guy I met and he's like, yeah,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: I'm performing. I'm going to perform stand up at like
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: the Roxy or something. He rented it out. because that's
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: where Sam Kinison like filmed one of his specials. Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: And I go, Oh, I didn't even like, no, you
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: did stand up. He's like, I don't, but I'm doing
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: it tonight. And all these agents are coming in.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: I'm. I think I was at the show. I remember this.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Did you go?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Like I like walked off stage or something.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: He just like starts screaming and like he had no act, nothing.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: And then afterwards he's like, yeah, I got three offers
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: for a development deal. I'm like, when everyone was getting
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: development deals, I'm like, No, you didn't. like what are
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: you trying like you you can't just like right but
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: he had money so he had rented it out I
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: remember this and anyone could.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: Come I think I was working across the street a
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: time and that guy would come in and he invited
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: us to the show and I went and Yeah, that's
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: what he was doing.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: He was just meaning any comedian he could to invite.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: And I was like, because I was like, and he's like,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: maybe you can, you know, when I go on tour,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: you can like open for me or have a part
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: in the sitcom. So I was like, okay. Yeah. Do
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: you need $ 180?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: Or a rental car? The scam, God, thank God, the
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: scamming world is, at least for me, it's over.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: It's very, the one in the Love Con one is,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: this guy gets all these women because he's sending videos
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: and selfies like every day. Like I love you. I
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: miss you. But he's sending to like all different, like
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: he never says their names. So he's like saving time
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: and doing the content and sending it. And he had
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: a wellness center that he was like, Oh, I need 25,000
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: for this. I need 10,000 for this. I need, um,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: whatever you could get. And he knew you and me,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: he'd even go to the camera and be like, I'm
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: going to go play some poker. If you want to
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: send me $ 25, that'd be nice. And these women would.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's amazing too. Well, everyone's insane. A lot of
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: people are crazy too. You know, there's a lot of
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: crazies out there.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: And so these women are just like, yeah, all embarrassed.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: And there were certain ones that I was like, that
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: guy's gross. I don't even care. Like I was skipping around.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: I'm like, find me someone that I can like, could
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: I have been conned by this weirdo?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I got to be honest with you. You told
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: me to watch two things, Charlie Sheen and the, you know, the, the,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Thirst Trap.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: And both of them made me angry. Just the stupidity
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: of Thirst Trap was driving me insane. And then Charlie Sheen,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: I was just like, I don't know. This is going
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: to sound callous and cold of me, but I have
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: no patience for drug addicts. I really don't. I don't
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: know why. And I felt like I'm watching some drug
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: addict tell stories and it's annoying to me. That's it.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I, great, because he was so, like, kind of, like,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: brilliant and inherently funny and good looks and grew up
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: with Sean Penn and Rob Lowe. Yeah. And your dad
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: is Charlie Sheen.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: In Malibu. Right. Like, you had every, every opportunity, and
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: that's the thing. Maybe too much opportunity does make you
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: piss it away. Yeah. I thought that was, like, kind
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: of the one thing that was sort of interesting that
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: you don't really... That people don't really talk about.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: Like if there's not a hunger for it, like you didn't,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: you didn't come from New York.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: To model kimonos.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: In Malibu. You know, I was out there during those days.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: He didn't come from the hot bowels of the Valley
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: and Woodland Hills trying to be a star like Heather McDonald. No,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just, so.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: And for that reason, we're both still going. Not on
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: drugs yet.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: No. No.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: And playing Sacramento Punchline.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, let's talk about it.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Sacramento Punchline.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: What's happening?
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: Wednesday. This Wednesday. This week.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: How fun. You're going to see this on Tuesday. What
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: a fun Wednesday night. The next night.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Sacramento Punchline. One show only. Wednesday night. Thursday night. Cobbs
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: in San Francisco. This week. This Thursday. Cobbs in San Francisco.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: Beautiful time to be in that part of the country, too.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: Come see me live.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: After that, you want to hear some more?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Can I just rattle them off?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: Irvine Improv. Sunday, September 21st. Sunday night. Irvine Improv. That one...
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Could use some help.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: How about Phoenix, Arizona? Desert Ridge. Love that out there. Phoenix, Arizona,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: September 25th. Beale Street Theater, Kingman, Arizona. A lot of
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: people have said, what? You're going to Kingman, Arizona? I am.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Beale Street Theater, September 26th. Oxnard Improv, September 27th, Saturday night.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: Oh, Oxford.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: And Philadelphia Punch. Oxnard. Oxnard.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, great.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: Close, close, close. Saturday night, which will be fun. And
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: then Philadelphia Punchline, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. on October 16th through the 18th.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: And then I'm going to be at Brad Garrett's Comedy Club.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: We talked about Brad Garrett in Las Vegas the first
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: week of October. Thank you so much.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, fun. Yeah. Fun, fun, fun. That's all I got.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: And of course, for me, you guys, November 14th, my show,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: which I'm really getting excited about.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: That's Las Vegas too, right?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going to be very Bravo-centric.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: Is that during BravoCon?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: It's during BravoCon.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: So BravoCon's back.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: BravoCon is back. It's November 14th, 15th, 16th, so this
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: is the first night of it. 10 o'clock, so you
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: can come in, check in the hotel, get cute, go
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: to dinner, go to my show.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: What hotel are you at? Where's the show at?
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: It's MGM Grand at the David Copperfield Theater.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, all right.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: So they have a lot of comedians there, so it's
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: kind of built for that, so that's good. And it's
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: going to have a lot of fun, surprises. We're not
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: going to hold back. And I've been collecting some really
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: fun bits.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: And things about- Who are you having with you? Anybody?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: I have Brandy and Julie.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: And then some surprise guests and some surprise things that
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: I've never done in the show before. So it'll be super,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: super fun and no one will be disappointed. So we
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: have that.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: And it's almost sold out, you were telling me before
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: we came to air.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: It is almost sold out.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: So hurry up and get your tickets, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: like wait you have a podcast too i'm like i
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  Speaker 2: don't understand how you haven't heard that yet you know
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  Speaker 2: i feel like we we promote it all we.
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  Speaker 4: Can and I have people that, that come up to
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: me still and just go, I know you from the news. Yeah.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: And it's because they remember me from Chelsea lately and
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: they associate e-news with, and they don't know I have
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: a podcast. They don't know that I'm still, you know,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: even doing comedy anymore.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: So it's fine.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: I guess people are busy. Let them, let them know,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: let them know that we're doing it.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: If you want me to sing you Barry Manilow songs,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: I'll do that. You know, that's, That was the first one.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: He literally just did one the other day. I was
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: cause I was on and he still doesn't, he just
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: did Mandy again and he still never bothered to learn
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: the words. William White, like at a certain point, like.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: That's that learn the words. Nothing annoys me more than
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Ralph Macchio, who is the karate kid.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: He has been doing this karate kid character now for
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: like 45 years. Everything that he does is somehow related
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: to karate kid. And he has in his 45 years
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: being the karate kid, the actor himself, Ralph Macchio, has
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: not learned a lick of karate. You can just tell
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: by looking at him. This guy, at this point, he
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: should be a triple black belt.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: He just decided, you know what? I'm just going to
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: wing it. I'm not going to learn any karate. And
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: this is going to be my, I'm going to be
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: the karate kid, but not learn any karate. Drives me insane.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: Amazing. Chris, thank you.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: Love you.
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