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Ep. 18 Low Rise Jeans and Bad Decisions: The 90s & 00s in a Nutshell · The Group Chat

• Paulina: I was scrolling through TikTok the earlier today, that skinny jeans are supposed to be making a comeback. And I really Brandon: That's not necessary. Paulina: and I really hope not. Because my god, I think I literally have leg problems because of skinny jeans. like they cut out all your Brandon: You cut off that circulation. Paulina: circulation. Like I think this is why I always have cold feet. Maybe I have some other underlying issues, but I feel like wearing skinny jeans for like six years. I think that's that messed up some of my circulation. Brandon: blame all your health issues on skinny jeans. Paulina: Hello everyone. I'm Paulina. Brandon: What's good? And I'm Brandon. Paulina: And there is no Carson today. Well after the group chat. Brandon: Carson is MIA. Paulina: We don't know what happened to him. No, we know. Brandon: We know he's he's safe and sound, but but he's not here today. Paulina: Yeah. Tears, tears, tears, but it's okay. Well we'll try to get this shit going, you know. Brandon: No, we got it. We got it. It's gonna work. Alright. Of course. Paulina: Are you sure? With what just happened with her countdown? Brandon: It's all good. It's all part of the process. Paulina: man, what's good with you? Brandon: Not too much, busy. Sch school's gone, back in full full swing. I don't know. September's always a busy month, lots of family stuff. You? Paulina: Same shit. Like it's it's busy. Lots of changes to schedule, you know, trying to get back to the routine. September is just one of those weird transition months. I feel like once October comes around it's gonna be a little bit more chill. I'm I'm hoping for that, you know. That's like wishful Brandon: Yeah. definitely. Paulina: thinking, but let's see. Brandon: No, September's always rough, especially the first half and then second half it gets better, and then October everything's you're in that routine and everything goes in in order. At least Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: more than September. Paulina: No, for sure, definitely. Yeah. Other than that, you told me you have some news to t to tell me to that you've listened to something or you watched something recently or read Brandon: All right. Paulina: about it or Brandon: Yeah, so since last week's or last episode about the the conspiracy theories. So I was listening to one of my other podcasts that I listened to, my favorite podcast, Stuff They Don't Want You To Know. And they did an episode, actually two episodes on Charlie Kirk. I kinda thought that it was I don't know. Well they kinda stopped talking about the case. I don't know. I don't even know what happened really with it. It was obviously Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: such a big deal, but then it kinda stopped. But I think Was it the one year anniversary was last week, I believe. I think it was like the thirteenth of September. Paulina: Yeah, it was in September. It was sometime in September. Brandon: Yeah. But this was something I hadn't heard, but apparently everyone knew about this except for me, is that obviously they said that he was shot. I think it was the bullet went through his neck. But Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: there's a theory, and this is what the the whole two episodes were about, was that it was actually the the microphone he was wearing exploded. It was a bomb. Paulina: Yeah, I've heard about that. But like very briefly, like I've heard that there was like that theory and like I didn't read more about it. I was like, okay, like either way he died. Like Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: it doesn't really matter, like I mean it does matter how he died, but you can't bring him back to life, you know? So I didn't really pay too much attention about it. But tell me, tell me more. Brandon: But no, that's it. Like it was they think, well, there's obviously there's always videos, different viewpoints. And they were saying that when he was hit, supposedly from the bullet, there was like lots of like black pieces of like sharp knowledge, like little pieces of of metal that you could see. As if like the the the microphone Paulina: Mm-hmm. The microphone exploding. Brandon: that he had exploded. And it wasn't necessarily that like a bullet like going through like They were talking about the way his neck was moving, his body moved and everything. It it didn't go with the fact that he was shot and more the fact that he basically had a bomb on his neck and and it exploded. It's crazy. I don't know. It's Paulina: What are your thoughts on that? Brandon: Anything is possible. It's Paulina: Then it's possible. Brandon: like why not? I could I could see that being the case. I imagine once again I don't know who exactly would be that involved in doing something like that. Paulina: Yeah, that's that's my sort of question. Like what would be the well, the motive. I mean the motive like he was out there politically, but who who would have done that? Like Brandon: See they're saying they're they're saying maybe he was getting too much power. I don't know. And then something Paulina: Hmm. Okay. Brandon: also they admitted was like not too long ago something similar happened with with Israel when they attacked what was it, Hamas. All the with Paulina: Mm-hmm. Brandon: all the pagers. Like when all the pagers blew up. And it's Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Brandon: like, like it's something anything is possible. Paulina: Yeah, there's something happening there. interesting. That's Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: you know, adding more more theories to to the theories that we already have talked about. Brandon: Exactly. And that one's like we said from it's a year old, so Paulina: Pretty recent, like one Brandon: Who knows? Yeah. Paulina: year, like they still haven't solved that. Like, who knows if they will ever solve it? Like, I feel like that will be one of those things that is sort of just gonna either Yeah. Brandon: Just be forgotten and we'll never know. Paulina: Yeah. but speaking of September thirteenth, Tupac didn't come back to life. He didn't show up, you know, he wasn't saying, Brandon: tears Paulina: hey bitches, I'm back. But yeah, you got you gotta live, you gotta continue living and with the hope that maybe it's gonna be next year. Brandon: Part an another thirty years. Paulina: Exactly. man. Brandon: It was thirty years, right? Paulina: Yeah. Thirty, yeah. Yeah. Thirty years. Brandon: Yeah, it was nine it was ninety six, yeah. That's wild. So long ago. Sh I remember it. Paulina: I know. We're we're getting old, Brendan. It's like you sit down to think about it, but we're we're getting old. Brandon: Sime for ice. Paulina: Yeah, that's that's you know, a transition to our topic today. Smooth transition. so Brandon: Nicely done. Paulina: what are we talking about today, Brendan? Brandon: We're talking about nostalgia. The old stuff, the things that well, that don't exist anymore. Especially things from like the nineties, early two thousands. I like Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: this change. Paulina: and it has changed a lot. Brandon: In a reality, yeah, yeah, we're getting old, but it hasn't been that much time. I guess crazy. You think about the whole time span and everything, and you think twenty years, fifteen years, it's it's not that long. It's not at all, but Paulina: Yes, but with how quickly things are moving now, like with the with the tech and how everything is advancing, it Brandon: Technology Yeah. Paulina: it feels like it's it's been a long time. Like really not just tech, but like style, you know, fashion, although fashion is making, you know, like a comeback. A lot of the old, you know, nineties and everything, Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: styles and early two thousands making a comeback, but we'll talk about that later. But that's why it feels like we're you know, we're getting old and it feels like it's been a long time ago because we live in a society where everything is just like everyone has their like five seconds of fame and like we move on, you Brandon: That's it. Paulina: know. Brandon: Yeah. But that's how it is. I don't know. Like you say, it's changed a lot. I imagine the same thing. I imagine our parents felt the same way also. It's like you see it's not as fast as it's happening for us, I imagine. But they I'm sure they felt the same way seeing how everything was changed previously than what it was before. But Paulina: For sure. Brandon: that's how it is. We gotta keep going. Paulina: Yeah. For me it's like surprising because my my parents are like using Facebook, you know, and like they send me like stickers and reels and AI videos, you know, like AI generated videos. And I'm like Brandon: Doesn't seem right. Paulina: Like mom, like aren't you supposed to be like knitting sweaters? Like you have Brandon: Mm-hmm. Paulina: grandkids, but no, she's like on Facebooks and like putting Brandon: Exactly. Paulina: statuses. And I'm like, I feel like she's like me when I was a teenager, you know, like putting up these like sad statuses about something or like I don't know. Brandon: She's tick savvy. Paulina: Yeah. Well, not really. With computers, no idea, but with her phone. But then she comes Brandon: Yeah, with a phone there. Paulina: by, she's like, Do you remember my password? Remember my password. How am I gonna remember yours? Brandon: Like, no mom. But no, that's how it is. My mom would put like message in our group chat like, did you see this on Facebook? And we're just like, No Mom. Like, I don't spend the hours on Facebook like yours like I basically only look Paulina: Like I'm nothing better to do. Brandon: Exactly. It's like I look at someone and says, look at this because I like Facebook is how I keep in touch with most of my family. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Because they all have Facebook, so So if I want any family news, I know it's happening on Facebook. Paulina: Yeah. But even to think about that, like Facebook. Facebook nowadays, like who uses Facebook? Like older people, you know? Like I I have Facebook. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: It's for s the same reason. Like to have Messenger, to keep in touch with my family. I don't really use it, but I like to look back. It has this feature that you can look back at the memories. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: and my god, I was so cringe. Like sometimes I Brandon: Okay. Paulina: read the post and I'm like, my god. And Like it was trendy back okay, back in the early two thousands. It was trendy to write in like like I don't know how to even describe it, like capital letters and like lowercase letters all together Brandon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paulina: in one sentence. And you would talk Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: like this, you know, instead of like T-H-I-S, you would put D-I-S like this. I'm Brandon: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paulina: like, why? Or instead of like, you would put L-Y-K like. And I'm like Why were we doing this? Like we just sounded stupid. I was trendy. Brandon: Had nothing better to do. That's how it was. That's how it is. Being young. And now we're Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: all older and mature. More than then. Paulina: No. Well Yeah, no, of course. but before Facebook there was also MySpace. Did you use MySpace? Brandon: Course. Of course MySpace, yeah. My Space for for me was I think I was at university. I was in college then when Myspace was around. I don't think Paulina: Inkite. Brandon: in high school no. Paulina: Okay. Yeah, I was I think in middle school or something like that when it was Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: popular and like Brandon: What was it? It was it's Tom, right? We were all friends with Tom. Paulina: Yes. Tom was our first friend. Brandon: Who was Tom? Was he like was he the creator? I don't even remember. Alright. Paulina: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. And they're supposed to make a comeback with MySpace. Have you heard about that? Brandon: I rem I heard someone say something. It's we might have been you, I'm not sure, but yeah. Paulina: Maybe. Brandon: I don't know. We'll see how that works out. Paulina: And it's supposed to be like without all the ads. It's supposed to be really just like pure like communication and you know posting on each other's walls and whatever, like the typical of like what MySpace was. Yeah. Brandon: What social media was in the beginning, yeah. Paulina: Exactly. and if the if that's actually gonna happen, I'm gonna get a MySpace. Like, why not? Brandon: It'd be it it would be interesting to see if they can actually do that because once again it would be expensive to have a platform. So how are they gonna pay for everything without it's just been I guess Tom's still around or I don't know if there's a new guy taking over that's gonna take money out of his own pocket and have it going, but you gotta pay for it some way. Paulina: No clue. But yeah, it Brandon: We'll see. Paulina: would be interesting to see. Brandon: I remember Tom had a crazy picture. MySpace I he could have a better picture. Paulina: It's like a I think it was just him in like a white t-shirt or something like that, just sitting like this. Brandon: Yeah, it's like Yeah, it's like this. It's like I haven't thought about that like twenty years, but no, I still have that picture of Tom like Paulina: Yeah. Like things that you don't think about, but it's like when when someone says it, it's like it's right there, you know? Brandon: Mm. Paulina: for me, MySpace was like like that was the best thing because you could actually we're coding. At the age of twelve, I was coding, like full on, Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: you know, taking layouts, putting the music, because you had like a music Brandon: Yeah, yeah. Paulina: thing on the on the bottom, and you could change the songs, you know, depending on your mood. Brandon: Yeah, yeah. Paulina: My MySpace was really emo. it was it was that time. Brandon: Could see that. I could see that. Paulina: It was that phase. that Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: I think was like a black background with like those typical emo, like neon bright stars, like very scene looking. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: and I don't know, you I would have like Pierce the Vale playing in the background or whatever. and then I switched it because then I started liking a boy that like was really into rap. So I would switch the music to like a little Wayne or something. Horrible. Brandon: Yeah, I don't remember that much. I don't remember my background and all that, but sh I remember the music. And like I say, I imagine it was Lil Wayne. Especially earlier Paulina: Why wouldn't it be, right? Brandon: early early two thousands, of course. Paulina: my god, you open somebody's MySpace page and it's like lollipop, you know, playing really loud and you're like, fucking volume, my mom can't hear this. Brandon: Turn her down, turn it down. Alright. Paulina: Bye. Yeah. Brandon: I know a platform Paulina: Mm-hmm. Brandon: that you probably don't know anything about because you weren't here. But here in Spain, when I first came here, so that was 2008 when I came to work. Two thousand and eight, yeah. They had their own platform that's like after Facebook, it was called Twenty. Paulina: Yes, I've heard about it. Yeah. Brandon: Hey, have you heard of it? Yeah. Twenty, I remember I was on that of course with all my students because that's all is that's the people who had twenty, whereas all the people at at school. And they're coming, Brandon, gotta add you on twenty. And I was like, What is some what's twenty? I did X fight, it's like I I had it downloaded, had my little profile and everything. Paulina: obviously I never used it, but Tony had a twenty as well. Like all of his friends had it, you know. And I was like, what Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: the hell is a twenty? And they like make references to it, and then I had to like actually look it up what it was. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: well he told me, he was like, it's like a mice base, but it was like for Spain. But in Poland we also had something like that, and it was called nasza klasa, which is literally translates to our class. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: and you're supposed to The original idea was to find people that you went to school with. It was supposed to be for like older generations, people already in like I Brandon: Right, yeah. Paulina: don't know, forty year old, fifty years old, sixty year olds and so on, right? that would look for like their classmates or whatever from like thirty years ago, forty years ago, and like reconnect and do like little reunions or whatever. But Then it turned into like a typical almost like a MySpace type of Facebook feel, you know? and I had it for a while, but I didn't use it correctly. I was not really reaching out Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: to kids from my class. I was just adding friends, like, you know, that were also Polish. And that's it. Yeah. Brandon: Yeah, people you know now, yeah. Paulina: and I don't know what happened to it. I don't know if it still exists, but I had a maybe for like two years and I think I deleted. I was like, there's no point in having this. Like I'm not really talking to anybody of importance and I Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: sort of switched over to Facebook. Yeah. Brandon: B back to the king, the social media king, Facebook. Paulina: But it's interesting like how how like social media took over very quickly because before that, like before this aspect of MySpace and and Facebook and whatever, like the most simple form of communication was aim and texting. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Or well texting and before that calling the landline. Like Brandon: Okay. Yeah. Paulina: calling the house phone. Brandon: Yeah. you have to think about it's something well most people now don't even know what a landline is. If if you ask like kids now. But the fact that you had a landline and like everyone had to communicate with that with that one line, that one phone number. That was for everyone that living in that house. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: And then when we got internet with dial up, I don't know. Did you have dial up internet? Yeah. Okay. So yeah, so with that. Paulina: Yeah. In Poland, yes. Yeah. Brandon: So then that happens. Like, so now That's how you communicate, but also now with the internet. So you're juggling everyone in the house and then if someone wants to use the internet, you have to tell everyone, don't call. Like for the next hour I'm gonna be on the internet, like don't call my house or you're gonna kick Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. Brandon: me off. Paulina: yeah. I I didn't really use the internet that much in Poland because I was still very young. Brandon: Yeah, you're you're Paulina: but I think the first thing was yeah, we had a dial up. but then after that, like I think we quickly switched over. Like I think it was like the other thing was available like with routers and whatever. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: and in the States, same idea. Like we already had a router and whatever. So it was it was a very different experience. Brandon: Without a doubt. I was trying to think, 'cause I believe we got like my first like computer, a house computer, when I in nineteen ninety six, so I was like eleven. So like you said, so you had aimed the dial up internet, all that. It was it was interesting time. Paulina: Yeah. AIM was where a lot of heartbreaks happened. For people who don't know what AIM is, it literally was like a messenger. Like you would log into Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: your Gmail account. Well, it wasn't a Gmail, it was a mess it was Messenger account, A O L. Brandon: yeah, it was before Gmail, yeah. Yeah, it like was the Windows so it was like Windows Messenger, yeah. Or Paulina: I don't even remember. AOL Messenger. That's what I remember Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: it was called. you would log into like a account, like a Google, whatever type of account it was, Windows. And from there, like you you were able to chat with people, like in your contacts. Like you would ask people what what's Brandon: Mm. Paulina: what's your aim? And they would write their aim. I still remember my aim screen names. I had two. I had two different Brandon: Yeah, two. Paulina: ones. Yeah. And I still remember them. I obviously I haven't logged on in like twenty Brandon: Hmm. Paulina: years, but Brandon: I think it still exists. I think AOL is still around somehow. Don't know what they're doing, how they're making money, but still around. Paulina: Let's go back to the old ways of communicating. Brandon: Yeah. But man, that Paulina: Interesting. Brandon: was that was different. I stand up late, I don't know how late, his own aim, sending messages, putting up was it your your way status? Paulina: The way status was always like a little like hint, like you were either crushing on somebody on someone, or like you're super sad, and you would say, like, I'm feeling so sad today, don't hit me up. And then like you would expect them to hit you up, you Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: know? like aim was for, let's just put it this way, aim was for attention whores like me. So Especially like with the away statuses, like we we were so extra. I don't know about you, but I was so extra with my status. Brandon: Yeah, no. Yeah, I've al I've always been a simple man. Paulina: I was always a little drama queen, so my statuses would like be then like with like the can we pretend like airplanes and night sky, blah blah blah like like song lyrics, you know? Brandon: Yeah. yeah, definitely lots of something lyrics. Paulina: Yeah. It's crazy. but to kick Brandon: Different times or Paulina: Yeah, yeah. Like and to kick kick it back even like to to this aspect of of landlines that you said, like everyone shared the same phone. Like there was one phone. You were lucky if you had a phone in your room. Like if you had the Brandon: No, that is. Paulina: regular house phone and then another phone connected to that in your room. Brandon: That happened much, much later. I think yeah. Paulina: Yeah, I didn't have. Brandon: That wasn't common. Back in the Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: day, no. Paulina: And I remember like calling your friends, like the house phone, and being like, Hey, can Bobby come out to play today? And it's like you would talk to the parents, like nobody talks to the parents now. Like and Brandon: Yeah, yeah. No. Paulina: before you would have to call and like have awkward conversation with the parents, be polite, be like, Hello, Mr. Brandon: Course. Paulina: Smith, how are you? I was just wondering. And it's like Now like people don't call each other, first Brandon: Impossible. Paulina: of all. Yeah. Brandon: P people that probably don't even know their their friends' parents, don't know anything about don't know their name. Paulina: It's sad though, like it's it's a very different relationship. Like I for me, like when I see my friend's parents, it's like, my god, like that's my second mother, you know? Brandon: yeah. Definitely, definitely. No, I call I call most of my friends their their parents. I call mama. Like they said like my mom. 'Cause that's how it was. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: It's like I like when we go back home, like Nordia, like little by little she gets to meet obviously she knows almost all my friends from like high school and college and everything. But now like each time we go, like I'm trying to go and see the parents because I haven't seen them like forever. I see him was like, Hey mama, like come give me a hug Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: 'cause that's how it was. Paulina: Exactly. Like you grew up at your friend's house and your friends grew up at your house as well, you know? And it's like Brandon: Exactly. Paulina: if you're getting yelled at, your friend was also getting yelled at. Both of you are getting in trouble, Brandon: Everybody. Paulina: you know, like Brandon: It didn't even matter, like you could just get home. You just get there, like walk in the door, your friends get in trouble and now you're part of it too. Guilty by association. Paulina: For real. man. Like Brandon: He's like I just I just got I just got here. Paulina: And can we can we talk about I don't know if boys also had sleepovers. I'm assuming yes. Brandon: Of course. Paulina: Okay, wonderful. can we talk about the aspect of sleepovers? Like I don't know if kids nowadays have sleepovers. Brandon: That no. Paulina: No? What do you mean? Brandon: Not real. I don't think so. I don't think they have now. Paulina: What? Brandon: My niece my niece she's what fourteen Maybe once or twice I think she's had friends over to her house, but it's not like before. Like before is like every Friday. Like every Friday you go Paulina: Every weekend. Brandon: you're going to someone's house to stay. You You go to Blockbuster Paulina: For real. You're like pack your backpack? Brandon: Go to Blockbuster. Did you get did you ever get to go to Blockbuster? you missed out. Paulina: no. Blockbuster, no, because I think at I don't know if it was already closed at that time or if it was like the last few that were still opened. We Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: we're order CDs from Netflix. So we would pick out Brandon: Okay, so yeah, you missed out on it. Paulina: Yeah, but we would pick out CDs like on a Monday because they would take about like five business days to actually arrive to your house and then on Friday we would have the CD and we would watch it. Brandon: Yep, I d think I sent it back. Paulina: Yeah, exactly. but there were places, it wasn't Blockbusters, but there were places that had like copies of movies, Brandon: Yeah, video stores. Paulina: yeah, like video stores, like other type of video stores. So like we also would go to video stores and just rent out movies. My god, Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: renting out movies. Like I haven't used that phrase in like 15 years. Let's go rent out. Yeah. Brandon: VHS V CR Paulina: It's wild. But yeah, the aspect of sleepovers, like, for me, that was like if I couldn't sleep at my friend's house, I would have like the worst weekend ever. I would like be so upset about it, you know? Because I would be like, Brandon: Exactly. Paulina: what do you mean, Mom? I can't go to Sarah's house to, you know, sleep over. She's like, no, because tomorrow we have to go get up early because we're going to the mall. And of course you spend the whole day at the mall. That was Brandon: Mm-hmm. Paulina: a tradition. The whole day at the mall. I'm like, but can't can't I just go sleep over and I'll wake up early? And then you never wake up early. Yeah. Brandon: You come pick me up. Yeah, because you stay up until six o'clock in the morning. Paulina: My god. Yeah. Brandon: Doing absolutely nothing, playing video games or just sitting around talking. Sneaking down to the Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: kitchen to eat chocolate. Paulina: the the kitchen is one thing. We we snuck out to McDonald's like four in the morning. Brandon: all right. That's different. Paulina: And it was it was really bad. because I think it was four of us. And I did have an eye doctor appointment the next morning. and I was like supposed to, you know, like be up early and be fresh and as a daisy and whatnot. but we ended up like staying up late at night, watching movies, and then we're like, yo, we're really hungry. And my friend had we lived in the same house, so that was really nice. I didn't have to go far. Like I literally went upstairs and we lived upstairs and Brandon: That was easy. Paulina: She she had her apartment, which was like her room, her sister's room, and a bathroom. And across the hall was the parents' apartment. So they had the kitchen, the bathroom, like the bedroom, whatever, living room. and we're thinking, okay, the kitchen is in the other apartment. Across the hall. We're like, we don't want to wake them up. So we just decided, okay, let's see how much money we've got, the four of us. I don't know, we had like five dollars or something like that, you know? Like we're broke, like we're like teens, I don't know, 12 years old, 13 Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: years old. And her dad, I think, was like waking up to go to work around like five in the morning or five thirty. So and he would always come in and like check in on us that like we're sleeping, that we're we didn't do anything stupid. But that day we decided, well that night we decided We're really hungry. We need to go get something to eat. So we very quietly put on our shoes. my god, if Sarah's mom is listening to this, or her sister. Shit. Brandon: Now you know. Paulina: Now they will know. and we like snuck out to McDonald's, which wasn't far, it was like maximum 10-minute walk, you know? And since the actual doors were closed, we went through the drive-through and we pretended like we're in a car. Yeah. So we're like standing there ordering, I don't know what we order, I think like fries and iced tea or something like that. And we just took that and we ate that and then back Brandon: And walked at home. Paulina: to bed. And when when her dad came in, like to check in on us, we're not sleeping. Like I still remember him like, you know, opening the door and being like, Okay, okay, everything's fine, like closing it. I'm like, my god, we're not sleeping. We're like Still like, you know, shits and giggles under the blankets, so man. It's like it it Brandon: Hell Paulina: builds character. Like sleepovers just build character. Brandon: Yeah, it's definitely a part of our lives. I remember we would go to one of my friend's houses. This is in high school, and his parents had a restaurant. But like it opened like early in the morning. It's like it was like an all-day restaurant. And so they would Paulina: Mm-hmm. Brandon: get up at like five in the morning and then they would leave. And most of the times when they would get up to leave to go to work, like we'd still be up. Like we'd still be sitting playing video games or just sitting around watching TV. Like they come Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: in, like they see us, and like, All right. Like go to bed. It's like At some point, those are the days. Paulina: Another another experience that I have also like staying up and trying not to get in trouble. Because like we think about it now, like especially here in Spain, kids are like babies, like I don't know, like three-year-old children, toddlers are running around at one in the morning and nobody says anything. Brandon: without yeah. Paulina: but I was like 13 with my Nintendo DS under the covers. Hoping that the sound, the volume doesn't turn on so my mom doesn't walk in yelling at me. Because I was trying to connect with my best friends since our apartments were like one above the other. Brandon: yeah. Paulina: And just trying to connect on the like picto chat or Nintendo chat and just drew like stupid things, you know, like volume down, brightness down, and just try not to laugh, you know? How many times I got caught and mom is like, What are you still doing up? It's two in the morning. She's like I'm sleeping, I'm sleeping. Brandon: Hmm. Yeah. Paulina: man Got. Brandon: And now instead of that, you have your phone. So all the kids come to school now and they're just dead tired because they're up all night on their phone and they don't sleep, they don't get any rest and Paulina: Yeah. For sure. Yeah. I I w we had our phones. Like later on, like when I was in in middle school, I think I had like a really shitty phone. Brandon: Had a phone in middle school? Read it? Paulina: Yeah. Because I ha it it's New York. Like I had to Brandon: Well yeah. Paulina: travel. I had to take a bus to school, you know? and like it was a public transit, it was not like a school bus. So Brandon: Yeah, yeah. Paulina: but in school we actually would leave the phones also in in boxes, you know, like we didn't have access to them. but it was like a really crappy phone, like it was like the typical Motorola Ranger phones that Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: like you could only take like five or six photos because your battery would drain, memory Brandon: Yeah, the memory. Paulina: would be full. and like we didn't really use our phones. Like you would go back Brandon: No. Paulina: home and you would use the laptop or like PC and use AIM or MySpace, like texting. Brandon: No. Your phones for communication? Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: For calling people because it was so expensive. Well, first of all, texting. Well, you probably had it before, but texting, I think that didn't come around for me until I was in college. Or texting. Paulina: Yeah, but texting was expected. Brandon: Yeah, exactly. And that was it. You didn't do it because it was so expensive. I think by the time I finished college, it finally got around to the unlimited texting. For like free. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: So it's already included, but that like I said, that was about two thousand what five, two thousand six, two thousand seven, around that time. Paulina: Yeah, but like the unlimited texting, like the plans were also very expensive to r in those times, you know? Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: So my my parents didn't get me that. They were like, no, you have your laptop, like you have your computer. If you need to send a message, you come back home and you send it from the computer. Like I I would text, but it would be like later on, I think it was like in high school when I really started to actually text. Because in middle school was mainly aim, my space and that's it. Like or you call somebody. Brandon: Yeah, you had to call. Or what about if Paulina: Call the house. Brandon: you what if your phone accidentally connected to the internet? That was the worst thing ever. It's so expensive. Paulina: my god. That like trauma unlocked right now. it was so scary. Brandon: That was rough. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: So much money gone just like that. Just by connecting. Not even doing anything. Just if it connected by accident. That was horrible. Paulina: I wonder how much money it was. I'm like about to look this up because I'm really curious. Brandon: I don't know. Paulina: How much money did it cost to connect to internet on your phone? In what year? Two thousand six? Seven? Brandon: Yeah. Two thousand seven. I think I remember just I wanna say like maybe like two or three dollars, which doesn't seem like a lot, but that's just to connect. It's not doing anything, it's not downloading anything. You're not calling anyone, not downloading Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: a ringtone. Or maybe maybe a bit maybe a little bit before. Paulina: Around one dollar per megabyte. And then says that it it gives me like prices of like bundles. Brandon: yeah. Paulina: But still that was pr thirty to forty dollars per month for unlimited data. That's a lot. Brandon: I remember b before I came to Spain, my last I still actually had my phone, the last phone I had in the US. I think I was paying I think it was like sixty a month. Sixty dollars a month and what is that? Two thousand probably two thousand eight, two thousand seven, two thousand eight, yeah. And that was for texting and calling, and that was it. Then you still have to pay. If you d if you download a ring tone, well you have to pay for it. Paulina: For ringtones. Do you do you have any ringtone that you remember that you had? What type of ringtones did you have? Brandon: All outcast. All outcast. Paulina: my God. I think I'd I'd never really downloaded ringtones. I think what I did was just like record them like from CDs. Brandon: That came that came later. In the beginning you didn't have a choice. You had the only way to get was you had to download Paulina: I re that I remember from Poland that my sister that my sister did that. But in in the United States when I moved to the States, which was in 2006, then by then it was already like people would record them. And Brandon: Okay. Paulina: I I think I'm sure I had like once again, Jonas Brothers, and like other ridiculous, I don't know, like I don't remember. I I think at some point I definitely had like little weight. I'm like ninety eight percent sure. Brandon: And the best part, we Paulina: I don't have the weight on, but Brandon: you'd have different ringtones for different people or different groups of people, so you know that you hear ringtones. don't answer it, be quiet. Paulina: They're like, oops, my mom is calling. And all and they would never be quiet. That's another thing. Like you would answer to phone call where your mom is calling and somebody is like yelling in the background, pull up your pants, what are you doing? Pass that joint. And like, shut up. Yeah, you just flip it Brandon: Click. It's a flip phone, so you close it. Paulina: really angrily. Brandon: Mm. Paulina: man. Yeah. The tech really has changed. Like that's one thing that has really changed. But like there are so many, just like even the way like we spend time, like I feel like that really changed as well. Maybe now, like as I'm older, like I spend my time in a similar way because I like to play board games and watch films, but Brandon: I lived outside. Paulina: What? Huh? Yeah. Brandon: I was outside. I said I lived outside. I was always outside, like no matter what, like playing just outside in the grass, playing basketball, riding my bike, going to the neighbors. Anything, Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: just always outside. Paulina: Yeah. No, I get that. there was a park literally two blocks away from from my house. and that's that's exactly what we would do. Like we would spend every evening, you would finish your homework or not, and you would go outside and like be on the swings, Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: I don't know, manhunt, like playing really stupid games, you know, like you would invent games, like you're like, Brandon: Exactly. Paulina: okay. There is this game that we're going to call this. And the point of the game is like you just create things, you know, and and be outside and have fun. And you'd come home with cuts and bruises and Brandon: Everything. I don't know about you because I imagine it was a little bit different in in the city in New York. But for us, like your parents always say you either have to be inside or outside. It's not like, you go outside and come in for water, go back outside. I'm I'm hungry, come back in and get something, go out. You can't be coming in and out. You either have to be outside or inside. That's it. Paulina: Yeah. in the city it wasn't so common, but like in Poland, yes. When I was a kid in Poland, like and they would my mom would tell me the same thing. You're either go staying outside or you're coming back home. It's like, no, I don't want to be home. Then go outside. And then l we lived in a in a block of flats. We live in like an apartment and we had a big playground outside. with like gardens and whatever. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: And if you needed something For me, I would just scream and I would be like, Mom! You know? And it's like on the second floor or third floor. Exactly. And all the moms look out the window. Brandon: Or do you all the moms looking out the window? Saying, it's not mine, it's not mine. Paulina: Yeah. And you're like, Mom, can you throw me a sandwich? And like, fine, I'll throw you a sandwich, just don't bother me. You're like, can Brandon: Kids don't come in. Paulina: Yeah. Like, can you throw me some money? What do you need money for? I just want some water. Then come back home, take the water bottle and leave. Like okay. Brandon: No. Now if you wanted water, it's like the garden hose. Get the hose and drink the water from the hose. Paulina: man. But yeah, I mean in New York it was a little bit different, you know, but normally I app I applied the same rule. Like if if I was outside, like I was outside, like if I needed something, we would all chip in, you know, like you and your friend with the little money that you had to be like, okay, we have one twenty five, okay, we can buy Arizona Brandon: What can we get? Paulina: iced tea and a small pack of chips. That's what we're getting, you know. Brandon: How it was. Paulina: It's like you you would just share, like everything was, you know, like life was so much easier. You would share all of those, you know, I remember like buying like a big gallon of like Arizona iced tea and like you didn't care care about cooties, you know, like you and your friends are just Brandon: No, everywhere. You just pass it around. Paulina: man, good times, good times. Brandon: Definitely. Paulina: Any other thing that like comes up to your mind? Brandon: Let's see. Of course there were so many things I'm trying to think. what about TV shows? Are there any TV shows that were your that were your favorites from for you it had to be like what the early two thousands? Paulina: Yeah. I watched a lot of Disney Channel. 'Cause that was like the thing during those years, you know. Like Brandon: Yeah. Yeah, yeah that that was big at that time, yeah. Paulina: like the I would say from t I moved like I said, I moved to the States in two thousand six. So like that was the the the beginning of like Jonas Brothers, of Hannah Montana, like Sweet Life of Zack and Cody, That's so Raven, like all of that, Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: that's that's what we're what we were watching. And there were some Nickelodeon shows, but I w I wasn't really a big fan of like Nickelodeon. We watched like few shows, but we prefer to watch with my friends Disney Channel. Brandon: I th I think by that time Nickelodeon had fell off. Like before when I was a little like Nickelodeon, everything was on Nickelodeon, everyone watched Nickelodeon, Nickelodeon was number one. But I think by the two thousand, by around two thousand, it started it started falling off. It wasn't what it was before. Paulina: Yeah, I mean they had some good shows. I can't really remember like exactly the shows, but I know like we watched like I don't know one or two shows that we would like to see on Nickelodeon, then the rest like was Disney Channel. I mean I go back to it right now. Like I watch them because th those are like my guilty pleasures, you know. Like I made Tony watch Camp Rock, like come on. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: like the Hannah Montana movie or whatever. and they're like guilty pleasures because they're sort of you know they're crap. Like you especially Brandon: Yeah, but you watch it anyway. Paulina: yeah, especially now as an adult, you're like, my god, but you remember those feelings that you were sitting in front of a couch at the premiere of like Camp Rock One, you know, and you're like there waiting with your friends, or like the Miley Cyrus Hannah Montana movie, and you're like, my god, my god, we can't miss it. And you know, you have your popcorn ready, you have all your snacks, and you're like waiting for because you had to wait for the actual movie. It wasn't like that you would just turn it on anytime you wanted to watch it. Brandon: Yeah. No streaming. Paulina: No, no streaming, exactly. So yeah, I watched a lot of Disney Channel. then in high school I started to watch more like The Vampire Diaries, Supernatural, got into Brandon: Mm-hmm. Paulina: like more serious shows. But TV in general from those years, like the TV Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: shows, very different. What did you watch? Tell me. Brandon: That's what I was just looking up because I'm trying to remember on Fridays. That's like Friday nights were this is like when I was probably like eight, nine, ten at that time. Friday nights were the big night. And I was looking up. It was called TGIF. Thank goodness it's it's it's funny. Right? I thought it was or Thank goodness it's Friday, funny, whatever. But it was Paulina: Mm-hmm. Brandon: it would be what was it? Family Matters, like Steve Urkel. There was like Full House. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: See, once again, these are these are all before your time. yeah. Was Paulina: Yeah, but I've I've seen that like yeah. Brandon: it Boy Meets World? Paulina: Okay. Brandon: Do you know that one? Paulina: R rings a bell. I don't like I would have to actually see the Brandon: Yeah. But yeah, but it was like so basically, I don't know, imagine they're Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: all 30 minute shows. So for like two or three hours, it's just nonstop of different shows. And that's Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: what everyone would do. Like you come home Friday night, like get home from school. Obviously, Friday night during your homework, get some dinner, and then you sit down, just watch those shows. And then go to bed because Saturday Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: morning will that was cartoons. So you had to go to bed so that you could get up in the morning to watch cartoons. Paulina: cartoons. True. there are many shows. There's also what what's his name? I think it was The King of Queens or something like that. Brandon: King of Queens, yeah. Yeah, sitcom. Paulina: yeah there are a lot of sitcoms. There is also the one with That's Sir Ray. Something like that. That's so Ray, that's Sir Raymond. Brandon: all about Raymond. Or something like that. I think that was it. All about Raymond is yeah. Paulina: All about ramen or something like that. Yeah. two and a half men, obviously. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: just so many different shows that like, yeah, you would sit down, you would watch it with your family or with your friends, and Friday evening that's what you would do. If you were not outside, you were s Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: watching shows. Brandon: Those were days that you'd be home. Or even if like when you're talking about going to friends' houses before, like if you went to your friend's house, well it'd still be the same thing. You all sit down and you'd be sitting around and watch Steve Urkel or whatever. Paulina: there's one thing. and Jerry Springer. Brandon: Jerry Springer. But Jerry Springer was one of those things that you would only see, at least for me where I remember, like if you didn't have s Paulina: In the morning. Brandon: if you didn't have that school that day or something, like school got canceled or you were home, it's like, we get to watch Jerry Springer. And then you watch it, you're just like, what is this? Paulina: That was me. like you were sick, you know, so you'd stay at home and you'd just Brandon: yeah, yeah, you get a s a sick day. Paulina: watch that. Or we had snow days as well. So like if there was a snow Brandon: yeah. Paulina: day and you would just watch, you know, Jerry Springer or Doctor Phil or whatever and and then there was a Steve Steve Wilkes show as well. Brandon: yeah, that was that there's yeah, I I didn't see I didn't see Steve's show. Paulina: I mean all terrible, sorry, but like all terrible. You just sit there and it's like brain rot, you know, like nowadays, like we would call that like brain rot. Brandon: Exactly. No, definitely. That that was our brain, right? Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Speaking of snow days on on Saturday or no Saturday. Thursday school was canceled because of the of the rain. It was like red alert or whatever. Exactly. Paulina: I know, you send me a text message. You're like, school is cancelled like a little child. Brandon: So that was the thing, like, but now like it was like you knew before, before like that was like Thursday or was it Wednesday night saying that school's Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: cancelled on Thursday. Like when I remember like waking up at I don't know like six o'clock in the morning, like before school, like in front of the TV with my backpack and my coat on, waiting to see if I have to go to school or not. And then like it's a snow day, and it says, school's closed, this school's closed, web school, Knoxville's closed, and you're like, take everything off. It's like no school today. Paulina: I just dive right into that, you know. Brandon: But that's the thing, you had to be up and you had to be ready. And you're just waiting for your for the your the name of your school to go across the bottom of the T V. Paulina: Yeah. No, I remember that as well. I mean living in New York, we had a lot of snow days. Brandon: I bet, yeah. Paulina: so we were really the same thing. Like we would wake up really early in the morning and my mom would be like, Okay, let's see if you if you need to go to school today or not. And I'll be like, I hope not. And turn on the TV, you know, eat your cereal just waiting there, you know, with all your things. And be like, you see the name of the school. And you're like, Mom, Brandon: Mm-hmm. Paulina: no, I don't have to go to school. I'm going back to bed, you know? but also during the time when I was already in middle school, we had like school websites. They didn't really function very well, Brandon: Okay. Paulina: but they were there. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: but usually what happened is that the school website was updated after you would see the the thing on on the TV, Brandon: Of course. Paulina: you know. So it's like you would see it on the TV and then you would actually go to the school website just to double check. So you would have to turn on the Brandon: To make sure, yeah. Paulina: turn on the computer, you know, wait there five minutes for it to actually turn on. And then you're like, okay, yes, it's confirmed. Now I can actually go to bed. Yeah, Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: it's it's true. I mean it's Brandon: That was an experience. Paulina: it really was. Like you said, like nowadays it's like, you know, people know a day in advance, which It's understandable, like the society that we live in, like with the access to social media all the time. Yeah. Yeah. But it was Brandon: Some things. Paulina: it was something else, yeah. there is another thing that I wanted to mention. to go back to this aspect of of TV shows and since we're talking about like things being on TV, what do you think about the old shows? So like I put in our notes things like friends, the office, sex in the city, They were, you know, very popular during those times, you know, I think around from well, Friends was much earlier. Sex in the City, I think, was later and then The Office was the last one, like in in that order. But what do you think like how do those shows differ? Do you think they're very different to what we see now? Brandon: I think for like normal like network TV, definitely. Paulina: Okay. Brandon: I think you brought this up in I don't know, in a previous episode about you could get away with so much more then that now the things Paulina: Mm-hmm. Brandon: the the the things that they were say I don't know just talking about in our time in the in the late nineties, early two thousands, if you were to say the things or do the things that they did then, like you'd be canceled, like literally canceled, your show be canceled. You probably have a lawsuit. It's Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: might be going to court, going to jail. It's like it's things like they said back then, which once again it wasn't that long ago, that it's impossible for those same comments to be made nowadays. Paulina: Yeah. and you know, and sometimes like when I watch those shows because I've, you know, I watch friends. Friends would be on on TV like every now and then, like Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: so it was always in my life, but I never really sat down to actually watch it until like I was in in high school, you know, to actually sit down and watch a fully. same thing with like Sex in the City. I think the actual like first time when I actually sat down and watched the full show. Was I was already an adult, you know? but I would see on TV, like every now and then you would watch like a part of an episode because it was just somewhere in the background. and I sometimes I feel like I'm a horrible person for actually sitting there watching that and like laughing at the jokes, knowing that the joke is inappropriate or would get canceled. And I'm like, am I like a shitty person because I'm laughing about this? Because nowadays like that would not fly by. People would be like, my god, horrible. Like they should never say this on TV. But it's like Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: it's different time. It was funny. It still is, you know? Brandon: Exactly. It's just time is changed. Things have changed. It's like Chappelle's show, like Chappelle show you wouldn't be able to do that show now. Not Paulina: Yeah, I don't I don't watch De Chappelle, but Brandon: but trust me. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: It would be impossible, it Paulina: Yeah. it's a different type of humor. But Like I said, I sometimes I feel bad, but then again I'm like, you know what? Like it's it was fine at some point, you know, like people made those decisions. I and like I'm I'm aware that like I'm not gonna say those things nowadays. I'm not gonna like quote those episodes because in c like, you know, nowadays it's politically Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: incorrect. Like I'm not gonna go out of my way to to necessarily quote or whatever, but They do still make me laugh. Like the office, you Brandon: Exactly. Paulina: know, like there's so many fucked up things that happen in the office. I don't know how you watch the office. Brandon: I started I don't know how many seasons I got through but I've seen a lot of just like random episodes but Paulina: Okay. there is an ep episode where they drew about like I don't know what it was called. It's supposed to be like a day about like ethnicities or cultures or something. And like they put the cards, you know, on a person's Brandon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. I see that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paulina: head and it's like, What am I? you know, it's like, well, you don't drive very well. And Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: it's like, Am I a woman? You know, and it's like those jokes and it's like yeah nowadays like technically you could make that joke but there is a very Brandon: Yeah. There's gonna be some backlash. Paulina: yeah yeah there's so many different jokes that like in that in that episode and like for me that's still one of the like best episodes I sit down and Brandon: No yeah. Paulina: I'm like my god like this is ridiculous knowing that like it would be cancelled Brandon: Yeah. It's funny. Paulina: But it is funny. It is funny. Aye. But another thing that I want to come back to that I mentioned at the very beginning and I completely forgot about. Since we're Brandon: Alright. Well let's go. Let's hit it. What's up? Paulina: talking about sex in the city as well, about fashion. Do you see any connection between the fashion now and fashion then? Or do you think that's like fashion and style and so on? Brandon: I mean there's I mean it it changes, but once again a lot of times the fashion seems to be a cycle, like most things. It is there, it leaves and then it comes back. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: I'm not really into fashion that much, but I do like shoes. I'm big into shoes. And Paulina: Okay, can you go ahead? Brandon: so a lot of times I'll be talking to a student and they're like, look at these shoes. I was like, dude, like I had those shoes like twenty years ago. Like they're they're back, like they're coming with Air Max ninety fives. I was like, No, I had those in In ninety five, like you're running now in two thousand twenty five. I had those when they originally came out. Like with Jordans and things like that. Paulina: And yeah. Brandon: Like I spent a lot of money on shoes. But but that's something I do notice and I see that well, because that's a part of fashion that I'm interested in. I see that. But there's always things that you see come come back, like the what was it a couple of years ago? I think like the jeans, like the what's it called? Like the wide lead bell bell bottom jeans that came Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: back again, like something that's from like the seventies. And Paulina: A very Brandon: I'm sure it came back in the nineties at some point and now it came back again. Paulina: Yeah. I've heard recently somewhere on TikTok, I was scrolling through TikTok the earlier today, that skinny jeans are supposed to be making a comeback. And I really Brandon: That's not necessary. Paulina: and I really hope not. Because my god, I think I literally have leg problems because of skinny jeans. You know, like they cut out all your Brandon: You cut off that circulation. Paulina: circulation. Like I think this is why I always have cold feet. Maybe I have some other underlying issues, but I feel like wearing skinny jeans for like a good, you know, I don't know, let's say fifteen, sixteen hours per day, every single day for like, I don't know, six years. I think that's that messed up some of my circulation. Brandon: blame all your health issues on skinny jeans. Go Paulina: For real. Brandon: to the doctor. He's like, sorry, it's all those years of skinny jeans. Paulina: Can you imagine? I w I mean I wouldn't be surprised. but yeah, they're supposed to be making a comeback. I don't think I'll I'll hop on that trend. I mean, I'm not like super fashionista either. I mean, this is what I wear, you know, and I'm here with leggings as well. Like. But it's it's interesting that a lot of the the trends that I saw when I was growing up are coming back. And the most recent one was the low rise jeans, which I got trapped into and I decided I'm gonna get them. And I got them recently. I mean, I had them also when I was younger, you know, because my I Brandon: But re but like now, recently. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Paulina: had older sisters, so I would also see my sisters wear them. So I think for me, yes, I'm like the older 90s kid, but since me having two older sisters that are much older, Brandon: Yeah, you got to experience all that also. Paulina: I've experienced all of that and like the fashion and everything. and I'm like, and I look at the the jeans that they have now. the low rise and the ones that I tried on and I'm like they're not really that low rise. Like why is the zipper still so long? You know? Like Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: something is not right. Like my whole butt is not showing. This is this is not right. Like because Brandon: It's not how it works. Paulina: yeah, because you would see like girls back in like I don't know early 2000s. I have a very clear image of Christina Aguilera and Brandon: Genie in a bottle. Paulina: Exactly. Wearing like super low rise jeans that you literally would see her whole butt crack, you know? I'm Brandon: Mm. Paulina: like, those were low rise. Nowadays they're like that's regular rise, you Brandon: Moderate rise. Paulina: Yeah, and I was thinking of wearing a very 90s shirt today. Because I feel like in the 90s you would always have like prints and things like written on the shirt, Brandon: Yeah, yeah. Paulina: like the stupidest things. And I have a crop top that I was planning to wear and I didn't. That says, You give me the ick. And I'm like, that's such a Yeah, like, Brandon: That's that's very nineties. Paulina: you know, and it's and it's a crop top, and I'm like, God, like just the 90s fashion, I think, is like it's I love it. I like the 90s fashion, but then the early 2000s of like well early thousands, like 2006-7, where they would wear they were wear pants and a dress over the pants. Please don't make a comeback. Like that's not necessary. Brandon: I d I don't remember that, but that's not no. That's not needed. Paulina: No, nor nor the skinny jeans. We don't need another generation with problems with Brandon: Sh. Paulina: leg problems. Brandon: I remember like in the early two thousands, like everything was baggy. Well Paulina: Yes. Brandon: you see you seen my basketball picture. You you're like, Brandon, why do you have a Carson's uniform? That's how it was, like my shorts, like my shorts like went all the way down to my to my socks. It's like you can barely see Paulina: Mm. Brandon: don't see my legs, you don't see my knees or anything. But that's it just that's just how it was. I remember like from my gradu my high school graduation. So I graduated in two thousand and three and my my grandmother bought me a my suit for graduation. And so that was like it was it was a baggy suit. So that's what it was at that time. Paulina: Of course. Why wouldn't it be? Brandon: And I remember like when I came to Spain, like when I came to live here, like I brought it here. It's like, well, I gotta bring my suit for Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: because I need to wear a suit here. And I remember the first time I have it, I put it on and Nuria is like, what is that? It's like whose suit is that? It's Paulina: Wait though. Brandon: like it's mine. It's like that is not your suit. She's like, we're going shopping. Paulina: Three sizes too big. Brandon: It's like we're going shopping, you're not wearing that anywhere. Paulina: my god, I I need you s do you still have that suit? Brandon: I doubt it. I think that suit we we let it go. I'll see if I Paulina: If you have any photos, I really need to see those. Brandon: find some pictures. But I don't know. Paulina: my goodness. Brandon: It was a different time. I was like, you look at like, for example, what was it? Like the the NBA draft, and you see like LeBron James and all these basketball players, Carmelo Anthony. On their s on their like when they get drafted and you see them wearing these huge suits, like I don't know, that's just what the style was at that time and thankfully it has passed. Yeah, we wear clothes that fit us now. Paulina: Now but I also remember like boys sagging their pants constantly. Like that was so like normal, Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: you know? Like I would go to like it was in middle school where I remember like boys just constantly sagging their pants and the teachers constantly just telling them, Please pick up your pants. I don't want to see your boxers, you know? And they would pi they would pick them up, but they wouldn't wear a belt, so they would just go back down. Brandon: It didn't fall right down, yeah. Yeah. What's a belt? I don't know what that is. Paulina: N it I I don't know why like that was fashionable, why that was trendy, like why do Brandon: But that's Paulina: you need everybody to see your butt? Brandon: It's the style of now. Like the teacher that you just just described, well that's me now with all the students. Like, dude, pull up your pants. Like no one wants to see that. Paulina: Like you back. Brandon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's been for a few years, yeah. I don't know, I think I don't know I don't know who's responsible for it, but I've seen a of what's my man's name? Lamin Lamok Lamine Yamon. Yeah, Paulina: Lamine Yamal. Yamal Lamine. Brandon: I yeah. So I see him and he has like his pants like all the way down. I was like, yeah, okay, and that's why all my students are sagging now. Paulina: Yeah. It makes sense. I mean like we Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: follow like the trends of like our favorite celebrities and stars. Yeah. Brandon: Athletes, celebrities, yeah. Paulina: Yeah. I mean Brandon: We fall into that trap. Paulina: Yeah, exactly. I mean that's also the whole reason, you know, like the skinny jeans were so popular because you would see a lot of like the the artists, you know, singers and whatever wear skinny jeans and it sort of like became a trend and Yeah. Just a lot of w a lot of weird trends, a lot of questionable fashion choices. Like if I find some photos I'll I'll send you them because oof. Brandon: I think that could be an interesting post for us to go through and find pictures of us in questionable clothing. Paulina: Yeah, there was a time where like normally now you know how I dress like very like I prefer darker colors, you know? There was a time in my life where I would look like a rainbow, like I literally just look like a Skittle just in colors. And I'm like and this? Why was I doing Brandon: Why? Paulina: that? Brandon: Why did this happen? Paulina: also like Hollister was super popular. American Eagle. Brandon: Hotest area. With all high high school kids, Banana Republic, all Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: those. Paulina: Oof. Oof. That was too that was too expensive for my pocket. Like Brandon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paulina: I was not one of those kids. My mom Brandon: Nah. Paulina: was not gonna pay like fifty dollars for for a t-shirt, you know? Brandon: I I went to a private school and everyone had Banana Republic. Banana Republic J. Crew got Paulina: Yeah. I was definitely not one of those kids. Like that was like very rare Brandon: Yeah. I wasn't either. Paulina: if I had something really nice, you know, or it would be on sale, you know. But yeah, times have changed. And it feels like, you know, it's it was it was such a long time ago. It really wasn't. Really wasn't. Brandon: Yeah. Not too long ago. Paulina: And another thing that I want to mention, I think this will be maybe the last thing that I'll mention, because I don't know where else I could mention, but like there are so many things. the aspect of having an an iPod, or before that, like a a Walkman, like a CD player. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: and you actually had to download songs or buy them if you had money. Brandon: Yeah, before that you actually had the buy. That was your only option. Paulina: you would have to buy the CD or a cassette or whatever, and then when you actually had an iPod, or if you had a fancy phone that actually allowed music, you know, that wouldn't like break the phone and fill up all the memory, you you would download it and with that you would download so many viruses. Brandon: Definitely. Yeah. Lost a lot of computers though. Viruses from Napster, LimeWire. Paulina: It it just makes me laugh that like nowadays we have everything in the phone. Like Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: back in the days like having music on your phone was like why? For what reason? You know, it's like just get an iPod. And now it's like I why would I have two separate devices? Brandon: But I can't even go further back than what you said. So actual tape cassettes. Like that was like your Paulina: Mm-hmm. Brandon: first, like before we had like mixed CDs, what you actually like have your your cassette and you'd be listening Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: to the radio and then your song would come on. Then you record, record your song. It's like all right, I got my song and then you wait for another song that you like and you record it. And then that was like the the original like mixed CD before CDs. And then we got CDs and then you could download music and well that Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: changed everything. But I remember many Mini days listen to the radio to record record songs. Paulina: You see, I didn't do that. My s my sister did that because I saw Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: her doing that once. But for me, like I never did that whole recording. I don't Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: think she ever trusted me to do that. Brandon: It's a lot of responsibility. Paulina: it is. Yeah. You have to hit it at the exact same time, no and to Brandon: Okay. Paulina: click record and everything. No, no, Brandon: Can't have the DJ talking, none of that. Paulina: no, no. That just messes up the whole thing. but I remember like that y we had a rate like like a boom box type of thing and you would put the cassette Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: and you listen to the music and then sometimes the the cassette would get fucked up and you would have to use a pencil and like try to fix it. Brandon: Take it out, wind it up. Wind it out. Paulina: man. Yeah, I was definitely more of like a CD girly because I was already with that generation of like having CDs and I still have I don't know if if I have them here, but I have like CD mixes that it says like Paulina C D mix or whatever. Like, Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: what is on there? I don't have a CD player, I don't know. Brandon: I think I think back home in in Tennessee I still have my like massive CD case with all my CDs. I think they're there somewhere. And like you said, they're all basically just all mixed CDs. All mixes. Paulina: like downloaded music. my god. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: But we were we were so savvy. Like we were so independent. Like we we would stay up like outside, you know, on our own, not coming back home. We did our own music. We coded our own websites. Like we're all like Brandon: We were Paulina: you know our own like fashion like stylists or whatever. Like We're like living the life and now Brandon: We got we got stuff done. Paulina: For real. For real. Brandon: Like I remember I never I've never I was never a child that I like would ask my parents for many things. But one of the things I did ask them for was a CD recorder for the for the laptop. Paulina: Mm-hmm. Brandon: And I remember I remember like going to buy it well with them and then like installing it myself and it's like it was like it was my thing. It was my project and and Paulina: Mm. Brandon: I used it a lot. I had I made C D's for everyone in middle school. Paulina: For all the crushes. Here you go. Brandon: Yeah, I had I was like, what you need? Like, let me know. I I I'll make a mix for you. Who you trying to talk to. Now that Paulina: You're the C D dealer. Brandon: I think about it, I don't think I charge for Paulina: man, Brandon. All the business and economics and then Brandon: Mistake mistake, yeah. That that didn't come until later. Paulina: My hand, Brandon. Brandon: 'Cause I liked it so much. Like I like I said, that was like my thing, that was my project. Good times. Paulina: Yeah. There's there're so many things that we're like that we could have charged for, I feel like, you know, back in the days that like we just in Poland this this is like way back. We it's gonna sound so stupid. You're gonna be like Paulina, what the fuck? In Poland we collected papers. Like paper. Paper at Brandon: All right. Paulina: okay. I'll I'll show you later what I mean, but like we collected these in Poland we call them karteczki. And karteczki were pieces of paper, but it was we could put them in a binder. and it would have different like prints. So sometimes you would have them with like characters. I don't know, like Brandon: Okay. Paulina: Goofy or I don't know, with Mickey Mouse or Barbie Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: or whatever, and like Some of them were like really nicely printed. you would have small ones and bigger ones. And you would also have them like sometimes like really glittery or whatever, you know? And it's like you would do trades. And like in the school hallway, you would sit down with your binder, open it during the break, and be like, show me what you got. Okay, I'll trade you these two small ones for that big one. Yeah. Brandon: I got that I got that purple post-it. Paulina: Like I'll I'll have these two small ones. This one has a glitter, so you'll give me one big one with glitter as well. And it's like you would make these traits. And it's like you literally now if I had that binder, I'm sure I could make big bucks with that, you know? So I don't know where's that Brandon: Without a doubt. Paulina: binder. I don't know what happened to it, unfortunately. Maybe it's still somewhere in my parents' basement. I'll have to attach maybe a photo to this because people Brandon: Mm-hmm. Paulina: probably like, What what is this girl on about? But Brandon: I think I know what you're talking about. I can imagine I think I've seen it before. Paulina: But it was it was in Poland it was very popular. I don't think I ever got like to the States, but in Poland it was like a big deal when I was a kid. Brandon: Trading paper. Paulina: Trading paper. the family business. Yeah. So Brandon: New buttering system. Paulina: we got anything else or I I mean we covered a lot. I feel like we covered most of the things Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: that Brandon: I mean, there's a lot of things. So you could always as we always say, you can always go more if you start looking into to more detail of everything. Paulina: Yeah, for sure. Hi. Brandon: It's all good. Paulina: So Carson would normally do this. So we're just gonna awkwardly sit here and stare and see who presses the big red button. Brandon: Goodbye. Goodbye. No, go ahead. Paulina: So you guys can find us on Instagram, on YouTube, on Spotify, Apple Podcasts. Thank you for listening. Hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Carson normally does this, so you know, blame him for not being here. No, I'm just joking. Don't blame him. and yeah, we'll see you on the next one. Brandon: Ease. Paulina: Bye.