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Faux Pas, Short Sales, and the Search for a Forever Home · I Hate Talking

• 0:30
  Adam: Welcome to episode 123 of I Hate Talking.
• 0:34
  Steph: Hi, everyone.
• 0:35
  Adam: So we will talk about Faux pas from our last episode, which was a synonym for Solecism in like definition nine of nine for that long-winded definition of Solecism.
• 0:50
  Steph: Okay, yeah.
• 0:51
  Adam: So you can, I think, at least listen to the first half of the episode without being spoiled by our comments about Toy Story 5.
• 0:59
  Steph: In last week's episode.
• 1:00
  Adam: In last week's episode.
• 1:01
  Adam: Yeah, correct.
• 1:02
  Adam: If you're catching up.
• 1:04
  Adam: So faux pas.
• 1:06
  Adam: What do you think that means?
• 1:10
  Steph: I think it means um you made like a error or mistake, like a cultural faux pas would be like a whoops, you didn't mean to, but you kind of insulted someone or some culture.
• 1:27
  Adam: Yeah, I would say it's some sort of mistake or error or blunder in some sort of interaction with people.
• 1:37
  Adam: So it's a bit different than a solecism, since that's going to be primarily in writing or spoken language, whereas maybe faux pas has more to do with your actions.
• 1:48
  Adam: But I guess it could also be speech.
• 1:58
  Steph: Like it is offensive often, but it wasn't intended to be.
• 2:03
  Adam: According to our favorite American Heritage Dictionary of the English language, 5th edition, faux pas is defined as one, a social blunder, two, a blunder, especially used in social contexts, or a misstep, and three, a socially awkward or tactless act.
• 2:27
  Steph: Okay, yep.
• 2:28
  Adam: Yeah, so that all sounds like mistakes, not intentional insults or anything like that, that it's just a blunder.
• 2:36
  Adam: A mistake.
• 2:37
  Steph: Yeah.
• 2:39
  Adam: So we alluded to our hypothesis a bit last time that this probably is French.
• 2:46
  Adam: So let's see what the etymology of faux pas is.
• 2:51
  Adam: Okay.
• 2:51
  Adam: So according to Etymology Online, faux pas comes from French, where it literally means false step.
• 2:58
  Adam: And it became used according to the same website, as well as confirmed by grammarly.com, that it entered the English lexicon in the 1670s and referred to a breach of good manners or an embarrassing social mistake.
• 3:17
  Steph: Yeah, I mean that makes sense, right?
• 3:19
  Steph: Because I like that definition.
• 3:21
  Steph: It's very literal because it's like the other phrase in America, we say like the foot in the mouth, right?
• 3:27
  Steph: Like, oh, I said something and instantly regret it or whatnot.
• 3:32
  Adam: Yes.
• 3:33
  Adam: So it seems like some of the historical usage in French would have been in sometimes referring to dance steps.
• 3:43
  Adam: That if you were dancing and had a misstep during a dance, that that was called a faux pas.
• 3:50
  Adam: But now in English it exclusively refers to any significant social blunder.
• 3:58
  Adam: Now that we've co-opted that term from the French.
• 4:03
  Steph: Okay.
• 4:03
  Steph: Do other cultures use it as well?
• 4:05
  Steph: Or just us?
• 4:08
  Adam: I think it's going to be some of the same concepts that we've discussed in and touched on in previous episodes that English is sort of just a mashup of a whole bunch of different languages.
• 4:18
  Adam: Uh-huh.
• 4:19
  Adam: So like other languages don't necessarily share all these different etymologies and things that borrow from other languages.
• 4:30
  Adam: So like they probably have something that is similar to a social blender, but it may not be faux pas, and it may have no relationship to any other etymology other than its own.
• 4:42
  Steph: Okay.
• 4:43
  Adam: So what language would you like to check?
• 4:45
  Adam: Faux pas in another language.
• 4:48
  Steph: Well because you were just talking about the French at least originally used it for like dancing, but we use it for like a cultural misstep.
• 4:58
  Steph: Um I don't know what would Chinese use it as.
• 5:04
  Adam: I don't even know how to speak Chinese.
• 5:08
  Adam: Wouldn't know how to pronounce it, but we could perhaps try.
• 5:12
  Steph: Our kids are learning Chinese.
• 5:14
  Steph: And I asked you today if you were gonna learn with them, right?
• 5:19
  Adam: That's true.
• 5:20
  Steph: We learn Japanese, still studying it a little bit, but the school that they're going to, they learn Chinese.
• 5:26
  Steph: So we're kind of halted the Japanese lessons and are going to Chinese now.
• 5:30
  Steph: And we've been told they will be okay.
• 5:34
  Steph: It's they kind of overlap.
• 5:38
  Steph: So hopefully we have a leg up.
• 5:39
  Steph: But Chinese is our next adventure.
• 5:44
  Adam: There you go.
• 5:45
  Steph: And one day we can go to the Great Wall of China.
• 5:47
  Steph: I really do want to do that.
• 5:49
  Adam: Interesting.
• 5:50
  Adam: Yeah, uh, it's fine.
• 5:51
  Adam: It's not really on my bucket list, I suppose.
• 5:54
  Steph: Well, me and the boys will go since we can speak Chinese.
• 5:57
  Steph: Bye then, hopefully.
• 6:00
  Adam: So I did search for faux pas in German and it'd be field trit, but I think maybe my search engine is getting confused because it did like a literal translation, which because that in German means misstep.
• 6:18
  Adam: So I don't know if they would use that as faux pas to describe like the social blender, or if it is just a literal translation that my search engine is giving me.
• 6:32
  Steph: Well, do you know a Chinese faux pas from the eight 1980s was when KFC was sent over there, Kentucky Fried Chicken.
• 6:42
  Steph: They literally translated it, finger looking good, into Chinese, and it translated eat your fingers off.
• 6:50
  Steph: There you go.
• 6:52
  Adam: That's a bit of a faux pas.
• 6:54
  Steph: Yeah.
• 6:55
  Steph: It made me think of that though when you were talking about the literal um translation.
• 7:00
  Steph: It doesn't always word for word line up properly.
• 7:04
  Adam: There you go.
• 7:05
  Adam: So I stand corrected.
• 7:06
  Adam: Apparently, according to wordhippo.com, the German word for social blender is faux pas.
• 7:12
  Adam: So apparently the Germanic language of Deutsche is borrowing from French as well.
• 7:21
  Steph: Oh, okay.
• 7:22
  Steph: There you go.
• 7:23
  Adam: And then when I search for Chinese social blunder, again it gives me like the exact literal translation.
• 7:34
  Adam: So, like, what is the Chinese word for social blunder?
• 7:37
  Adam: It literally translates social and blunder as their words for that.
• 7:43
  Steph: Okay.
• 7:43
  Steph: Interesting.
• 7:45
  Steph: There you go.
• 7:47
  Adam: Perhaps find out, or our kids will find out as they are learning Chinese this year.
• 7:52
  Steph: Yeah, they'll let us know.
• 7:54
  Adam: So that is our word or phrase of the episode, faux pas.
• 7:57
  Adam: And one that we came about because we always run into these French words, and they came up as part of our discussion on Solecism.
• 8:08
  Steph: There you go.
• 8:10
  Adam: Okay, so on to the next thing on our whiteboard.
• 8:13
  Adam: And if you didn't listen last time, we now have a whiteboard in our recording studio, so we know what to talk about.
• 8:19
  Adam: But it's currently blank.
• 8:23
  Steph: Well, I just wrote down Solecism two episodes ago.
• 8:29
  Steph: You mentioned it.
• 8:30
  Steph: So wrote down to remember.
• 8:32
  Steph: And then last episode you said faux pas.
• 8:35
  Steph: So I wrote that down.
• 8:38
  Steph: But you haven't said another word this week that I felt I need to write down.
• 8:45
  Adam: That's true.
• 8:45
  Adam: Well, we had one for this episode at least.
• 8:48
  Adam: So we are in the midst of buying and selling houses, so I guess I personally have bought three houses.
• 8:57
  Adam: Is that correct?
• 8:58
  Steph: Four.
• 8:59
  Adam: Four.
• 8:59
  Adam: I have bought four.
• 9:01
  Adam: Yes.
• 9:02
  Adam: And then we've sold I've been with you and we've sold three.
• 9:09
  Steph: Yep.
• 9:10
  Adam: Correct.
• 9:11
  Adam: And we're hoping to sell the fourth.
• 9:13
  Steph: No.
• 9:14
  Adam: No?
• 9:14
  Adam: One, two, three, three.
• 9:16
  Adam: This is the fourth.
• 9:17
  Adam: So I'm so confused.
• 9:18
  Steph: We can't sell this house.
• 9:19
  Steph: Then we gotta know where to live.
• 9:20
  Adam: No, you're right.
• 9:21
  Adam: We've only sold officially two houses then and are working on the third.
• 9:25
  Steph: You bought a house six months before we met.
• 9:28
  Adam: That's true.
• 9:29
  Steph: And then we lived there for a while, and we sold that and moved to a different state and bought a house there together.
• 9:37
  Steph: Then we sold that one and moved to another state and bought that house together.
• 9:42
  Steph: And now we bought this house and we're sold selling that other house.
• 9:47
  Steph: And we did this one a little backwards.
• 9:50
  Adam: Yes, I suppose so.
• 9:51
  Adam: So out of all those experiences, which one was the easiest purchasing?
• 9:59
  Adam: And what made it so?
• 10:02
  Steph: Well, this one.
• 10:03
  Steph: Or I guess the first one.
• 10:05
  Adam: Well, yeah, you weren't involved in the first one.
• 10:07
  Steph: Uh this one would be the easiest, the one that we're currently in right now.
• 10:10
  Steph: The most emotional one was our second house.
• 10:17
  Steph: I was very emotionally attached to that one.
• 10:20
  Steph: And um, I had picked it out when we were in the before we moved States.
• 10:25
  Steph: I found that houseillos.
• 10:28
  Steph: And I remember telling me, like, could we get this one?
• 10:30
  Steph: Like something like this.
• 10:31
  Steph: I didn't think we were gonna get that one.
• 10:33
  Steph: This is like my dream house, everything I want.
• 10:36
  Steph: And uh it seemed like such a lofty goal because we had both, you know, been out of college for a couple of years, both been working hard, no kids yet.
• 10:46
  Steph: It just seemed like is this a dream that could happen?
• 10:49
  Steph: And then we ended up being a backup offer and that house oh man, yeah, I just loved it.
• 10:58
  Steph: The second I got in there, I remember I started crying and our realtor was like, It's okay if you don't like it.
• 11:02
  Steph: I was like, Oh, I love it.
• 11:04
  Steph: Like I want this home.
• 11:06
  Steph: And um their backup offer.
• 11:10
  Steph: The first one, I guess we had three offers that fell through, right?
• 11:14
  Steph: It was such a it was a short sale.
• 11:18
  Steph: It was a short sale, yes.
• 11:20
  Adam: So like pre-foreclosure.
• 11:22
  Steph: It was back, yeah, in the height of all of that.
• 11:24
  Steph: So that's why it worked out that we could afford that kind of thing because the housing market had crashed so badly.
• 11:32
  Steph: But we were, I think, the third or fourth backup offer.
• 11:38
  Steph: And all of those people either couldn't get it or it fell through somehow.
• 11:42
  Steph: And then the home was gonna go to foreclosure.
• 11:46
  Steph: So our realtor went to the auction and you were gonna go, right?
• 11:50
  Steph: But then she said you didn't need to.
• 11:52
  Adam: Right.
• 11:52
  Steph: She found out that morning you didn't have to go, but she still went just in case.
• 11:56
  Steph: She's like, We're under we have an offering, do not sell it on foreclosure.
• 12:01
  Steph: And I was at work the whole time, I couldn't get off, and I was so stressed that I wanted that home so bad.
• 12:06
  Steph: And we got it.
• 12:08
  Steph: And so that one I was the most emotionally charged and attached to.
• 12:14
  Steph: And uh it's still really crazy that we got it, and that I picked it out like six months before and all that.
• 12:24
  Steph: That's true before we moved.
• 12:26
  Steph: But anyways, this home to answer your question, it was the easiest.
• 12:30
  Steph: Mostly because I had never even been to this state, let alone been to the house.
• 12:35
  Steph: When you moved, I was back home and you were like, I love this home, you'll love it.
• 12:41
  Steph: And I was like, Okay.
• 12:43
  Adam: That's true.
• 12:43
  Steph: I didn't even have to sign a single paper.
• 12:45
  Adam: And you do love it.
• 12:46
  Steph: I do love it.
• 12:47
  Steph: I love it.
• 12:48
  Steph: I do love it.
• 12:49
  Steph: And it was even better in person.
• 12:52
  Steph: Like I knew I'd like it, like, sure, why not?
• 12:54
  Steph: But I showed up and I was like, Oh, it's even better than what the photo showed.
• 13:01
  Adam: Indeed.
• 13:02
  Adam: Yeah, I'd say this one was perhaps the easiest.
• 13:06
  Adam: It was all very quickly processed and had I think a lot of good support with our realtor and our bank.
• 13:19
  Adam: And there weren't really any hiccups along the way that I'm aware of, right?
• 13:26
  Adam: That I can recall.
• 13:28
  Steph: No, the biggest hiccup was the day we were supposed to close.
• 13:32
  Steph: And because I was out of state, so I signed something stating that you could sign for me.
• 13:40
  Steph: And they sent that over and all that.
• 13:45
  Steph: Then it was like the day of, and they were like, we needed this days ago.
• 13:51
  Steph: Remember that?
• 13:54
  Adam: Yeah, with like the power of attorney and like some other document so that I could sign for you.
• 13:59
  Steph: Right.
• 14:00
  Adam: But they didn't and it's like the closing costs information or something like that.
• 14:07
  Steph: Was a little mess.
• 14:08
  Steph: The day of.
• 14:08
  Steph: So everything happened the day of was like an hour or two before closing.
• 14:12
  Steph: So you were stressing because you were like that was a very stressful Monday morning.
• 14:16
  Steph: You and uh the realtor were definitely trying to pull strings and be like, first of all, like why are you waiting till the day?
• 14:23
  Adam: Well, I think they called me at like 5 30 on Friday and were like, hey, we need this.
• 14:27
  Adam: And I called them back like 15 minutes later and they were like already closed.
• 14:30
  Adam: Yeah.
• 14:31
  Adam: And I was like, okay, well, I think the realtor did call like the owner of the company on Saturday or something.
• 14:38
  Adam: So it's we're closing.
• 14:39
  Adam: That was a bit stressful.
• 14:40
  Adam: Yes.
• 14:41
  Adam: Closing Monday at 1 p.m.
• 14:43
  Steph: Yes.
• 14:44
  Steph: That's not fair to call Friday night and say we need this before Monday when they're not even open.
• 14:52
  Adam: Right.
• 14:53
  Steph: Yeah.
• 14:53
  Steph: So that was a little stressful.
• 14:55
  Steph: You guys were sweating that one.
• 14:56
  Steph: But again, I wasn't because I was not even in the state.
• 14:59
  Steph: So I was like, yeah.
• 15:01
  Adam: Yep.
• 15:01
  Steph: I'll figure it out.
• 15:03
  Adam: Yeah.
• 15:03
  Adam: I mean, yes, the closing weekend was stressful.
• 15:06
  Adam: But everything leading up to that was pretty smooth, right?
• 15:11
  Adam: Made an offer.
• 15:12
  Adam: Got, I don't think what did we get countered?
• 15:16
  Adam: I don't remember.
• 15:17
  Adam: Oh, yeah, I guess we did.
• 15:18
  Adam: A little bit.
• 15:18
  Adam: It was not much.
• 15:19
  Adam: Not much, yeah.
• 15:20
  Adam: So I think we accepted that, did the inspection.
• 15:22
  Adam: There was a couple things that needed fixed.
• 15:24
  Adam: They agreed to that and had some seller concessions for some other things that needed fixed.
• 15:31
  Adam: And then everything was good.
• 15:33
  Adam: Yeah.
• 15:34
  Adam: And then the other thing that was stressful was our bank did not have like the correct security code or something like that for transferring the money.
• 15:45
  Adam: So I had to like call and wait online for like 90 minutes trying to get the money ready to go for closing.
• 15:54
  Steph: So that was that was a day of too, right?
• 15:56
  Adam: Yeah, I had to talk to a representative and then they escalated me to a supervisor, and then I had to talk like to a manager or something.
• 16:01
  Adam: So that was stressful.
• 16:03
  Steph: Yeah.
• 16:03
  Steph: So that defin that day was definitely stressful for you.
• 16:06
  Steph: Um but and then you had to write your name on all the documents and then write my name.
• 16:14
  Adam: Yes, with like a little addendum, like my name and then my name again, signing on behalf of your name, and then like the power of attorney code or something like that.
• 16:27
  Adam: Yeah, it was like a and then initial that the same thing.
• 16:30
  Adam: So like my initials and then my initials again on behalf of your initials, power of attorney.
• 16:35
  Adam: So not even just the signature fields, but like every single page at least once, many times, multiple times.
• 16:42
  Steph: Yeah, but I do appreciate you you're doing it.
• 16:44
  Steph: I did offer to come.
• 16:45
  Steph: It was gonna be earlier than we anticipated coming with the kids.
• 16:48
  Steph: We have animals, so we're gonna have to bring them and get in a hotel or rental and all that.
• 16:53
  Steph: Like that was gonna be complicated.
• 16:55
  Steph: But I was willing to, uh, but you guys were like, nah, this will be better.
• 16:59
  Steph: And it was easier, right?
• 17:00
  Steph: Overall, than having to find homes for our kids and animals.
• 17:05
  Adam: That's true.
• 17:06
  Adam: Yep.
• 17:06
  Steph: We were able to just show up and unpack.
• 17:09
  Adam: Yeah, day one.
• 17:11
  Steph: So but that also on that though, the lawyer wrote, I remember the you and our realtor showing me afterwards the paper you had to copy, and the lawyer spelt my name wrong.
• 17:24
  Steph: And I remember a realtor being like, Yeah, I made sure Adam he spelt your name right.
• 17:30
  Steph: Yeah.
• 17:30
  Steph: So it was just like left down a vowel in my name.
• 17:34
  Steph: Uh I was like, oh, do I own this home?
• 17:36
  Adam: Or that's true.
• 17:39
  Adam: And then I think the one that I would rate the hardest would be the same one.
• 17:49
  Adam: So house number two in our sequence of four houses.
• 17:52
  Adam: Because yeah, it went through like the all the different short sales, was pending, not pending, pending, not pending, and then pending again.
• 18:02
  Adam: And then that just takes a long time to do all the paperwork for a short sale.
• 18:07
  Adam: We were also pending the sale of our previous house, which that was contingent, and we sort of settled for an offer on that one to get the transaction done.
• 18:18
  Steph: Yeah.
• 18:20
  Adam: And then the other thing that was weird with that one when we were buying it is like the appraisal came in incorrect, right?
• 18:27
  Adam: Like the appraiser swapped it with a different property.
• 18:30
  Adam: So then that messed everything up with like the loan process.
• 18:34
  Steph: Oh, I don't remember.
• 18:35
  Steph: Yeah, maybe I don't remember that.
• 18:37
  Adam: So then that was resolved, and then yeah, that would that was pretty quick resolution.
• 18:41
  Adam: We're like called him back the same day and was like, this doesn't seem right, and then they they fixed it.
• 18:46
  Steph: Right.
• 18:46
  Steph: Okay.
• 18:47
  Steph: Yeah.
• 18:48
  Steph: That one was, and that one I think financially was hard because we could afford the payments, but for two young, you know, we're in our early 20s, both working good jobs.
• 19:02
  Steph: I felt like that one was a risk.
• 19:04
  Steph: The first house you bought was a great home, great starter home.
• 19:08
  Steph: And the payments were uh very appropriate.
• 19:12
  Steph: This was kind of like a bigger, like this was our long-term.
• 19:16
  Steph: I expected to live there forever.
• 19:18
  Steph: Obviously, we didn't, but uh this was like a really big step, I felt like that's true.
• 19:26
  Steph: So I I feel like that was hard to get that stuff.
• 19:29
  Steph: And again, it was in the height of all the short sales and the cloth, you know, everyone losing their homes.
• 19:34
  Steph: So banks were iffy.
• 19:37
  Steph: Because I remember like, yeah, we had to get so much stuff from our jobs, like that's true.
• 19:41
  Steph: Having the job basically promised they're not to fire us and stuff.
• 19:44
  Adam: Right.
• 19:44
  Adam: And then that home that was probably the most basically not difficult, but like just what do you mean?
• 19:56
  Steph: For what?
• 19:58
  Adam: By buying that one, yeah.
• 20:00
  Steph: That home was the most complicated, right?
• 20:02
  Adam: Yeah, complicated, I guess is a good word.
• 20:04
  Steph: There were lots of moving parts, and again, even the fact that like we were supposed to close on it and it was going to foreclosure.
• 20:10
  Steph: We didn't know, you know, like they had signs up that is in foreclosure, and it was just so many moving things, and uh, but it worked out and it was so nice.
• 20:20
  Steph: We didn't think we were gonna get it right away.
• 20:23
  Steph: There were still more things we were supposed to close, and then things halted.
• 20:27
  Steph: And I actually worked pretty close to our realtor's office.
• 20:31
  Steph: So she said, like, you're done, like I'm gonna come drop off the key.
• 20:34
  Steph: It was like after hours that I was at work.
• 20:35
  Steph: So I called you on the way home, and I was like, go get some champagne and meet me there.
• 20:41
  Steph: And you were like, No, we don't have the house, you know, like you didn't know.
• 20:44
  Steph: And I was like, I promise she said that we can go in, it's our home.
• 20:48
  Steph: I was like, you can even call her if you want, but you thought I just was like trying to get in there early.
• 20:54
  Adam: Remember that?
• 20:55
  Adam: Right.
• 20:56
  Steph: But I was like, no, I promise, like out of, you know, it wasn't supposed it was supposed to happen, and then it wasn't gonna happen, and then it did happen, but you didn't believe me that it did happen and that I had the key.
• 21:07
  Steph: Right.
• 21:08
  Adam: Yep.
• 21:08
  Adam: And then even this is the silly thing.
• 21:10
  Adam: So it's like a broken window that like the seller refused to fix, and like we couldn't get the insurance or the insurance or the loan when to prove it without doing that.
• 21:19
  Adam: So somehow that got resolved.
• 21:21
  Adam: I think they finally did fix it, but um, yeah.
• 21:25
  Adam: My point being that while that one was the most complicated to buy, it was probably actually the simplest to sell.
• 21:33
  Steph: Oh yeah, I mean it was less than a week on the market, and we already had multiple offers.
• 21:39
  Steph: And yeah, because again, we we bought at the we left out on that home because we bought at the basically worst time possible.
• 21:48
  Adam: Well, best time for a buyer, yeah, I guess.
• 21:51
  Steph: And then the market had flipped and started going up.
• 21:54
  Steph: So yeah, in less than a week we were under contract, and that was awesome.
• 22:00
  Adam: Indeed.
• 22:01
  Adam: So, and then I'm also wondering if the buying our fourth house was also easier just because of being experienced at it.
• 22:09
  Adam: I don't know.
• 22:10
  Adam: It sort of seemed rote when I was just signing all the paperwork.
• 22:13
  Adam: Like, had near done that.
• 22:15
  Steph: Rote.
• 22:16
  Steph: Is that our new is that the word I need to write on the whiteboard?
• 22:18
  Adam: I don't know.
• 22:19
  Adam: Do you know what it means?
• 22:20
  Steph: No, just rote means like you writ wrote something down.
• 22:25
  Adam: No, that would be W R O T E.
• 22:27
  Steph: Rogue.
• 22:28
  Adam: No, rote R O T.
• 22:29
  Adam: R-O-T-E.
• 22:31
  Steph: Route?
• 22:32
  Adam: Route.
• 22:33
  Adam: R-O-T-E.
• 22:34
  Adam: Route would be R-O-U-T.
• 22:38
  Adam: Which is also pronounced route.
• 22:42
  Steph: Okay.
• 22:42
  Steph: Alright.
• 22:43
  Adam: Which is another word because you can route a piece of wood.
• 22:46
  Adam: You can't root a piece of root.
• 22:49
  Steph: But if you do this all the time, that sounds so complicated.
• 22:52
  Adam: Routing pieces of wood become rote.
• 22:55
  Steph: Oh my goodness.
• 22:56
  Steph: I need one of those word texts behind your voice right now.
• 22:59
  Steph: To follow along.
• 23:01
  Steph: But okay, maybe that'll be our word then.
• 23:05
  Adam: There you go.
• 23:05
  Steph: So um yeah, definitely was the hardest to buy, easiest to sell.
• 23:11
  Steph: And she also they also didn't even want us to fix anything.
• 23:16
  Steph: They were like desperate to get in, remember?
• 23:19
  Steph: We were just like, alright.
• 23:21
  Steph: It was great.
• 23:22
  Steph: And I'm so thankful looking back at all like our time frame thus far.
• 23:29
  Steph: That that was the hardest, but we didn't have kids yet or anything.
• 23:33
  Steph: We had somewhere else we were living, so it wasn't like we were desperate, you know, like we had time to invest in this, and we were not desperate for a home.
• 23:43
  Steph: And again, selling it, I'm so thankful that was the easiest to sell because again, we had a bunch of little kids.
• 23:50
  Steph: And when we'd get someone to show coming to see the home, I you know, it was hard to keep we also have white carpet.
• 23:58
  Steph: That's true.
• 23:58
  Steph: So keeping white carpet with three toddlers is a trick.
• 24:02
  Adam: Well, we did all that work of cleaning the carpet and keeping it nice and clean.
• 24:05
  Adam: And then they ripped it out.
• 24:06
  Adam: They ripped it out anyway.
• 24:08
  Steph: Oh wow.
• 24:09
  Steph: But it looked nice.
• 24:10
  Steph: I mean, it probably, you know.
• 24:12
  Steph: Oh well.
• 24:14
  Steph: But yeah, I had a big tote.
• 24:16
  Steph: And when I'd be told, usually I'd have like an hour or two notice.
• 24:20
  Steph: It was just one week, and I'm so thankful.
• 24:22
  Steph: Because in that week I'd throw everything in a tote, basically, all their toys and all that.
• 24:27
  Steph: We also ate at a picnic table instead of on the nice table in the dining room.
• 24:33
  Adam: That's true.
• 24:34
  Steph: Because again, we didn't want to mess up everything, and but it was only one week of that temporary living, basically.
• 24:41
  Steph: And um, so I'm really thankful for that because that made it it would have been really hard if it was a couple of months of that constant showing and living in that perfected state.
• 24:54
  Adam: Indeed.
• 24:55
  Adam: And then we almost sold the house too fast because then we had to live in a hotel for three weeks because we didn't have it anywhere to go.
• 25:02
  Steph: Yeah.
• 25:03
  Adam: But we made that work.
• 25:04
  Steph: That was yeah, again, that was stressful.
• 25:06
  Steph: I tried to enjoy it because there was a pool and the kids were so excited for the pool.
• 25:14
  Steph: The hotel had free breakfast every morning, so that was nice.
• 25:17
  Steph: And popcorn 24 hours a day.
• 25:19
  Steph: So we utilized all that.
• 25:22
  Adam: Yeah, that's back when home to sweets was like the new and big thing.
• 25:27
  Adam: Oh it was like a brand new hotel concept, like maybe uh six months to a year before that.
• 25:32
  Steph: Yeah, it's I like it.
• 25:34
  Steph: I still would stay in one over pretty much anything for a family.
• 25:38
  Adam: Yep.
• 25:38
  Steph: The food is really good, the rooms are very spacious, but yeah, I mean, we lived in a hotel room for almost a month, but and it got a little hairy and stressful.
• 25:51
  Adam: Indeed.
• 25:51
  Adam: And then we bought the third house and got everything we wanted except the rocking chairs.
• 25:57
  Adam: Which that was sort of a humoro story because it was like in the contract that it was supposed to be included, but then like when the contract was generated from whatever PDF software that one of the realtors was using, it like stripped that out and then like it got sent without that.
• 26:15
  Adam: Yeah, and so I mean, at least it was like that was what got left out instead of like something actually important, right?
• 26:22
  Steph: And it's petty, but I was I still am upset about that because that home had a really big front porch, had these rocking chairs, and they even had little kid rocking chairs, which are perfect because we have a bunch of little kids.
• 26:36
  Steph: It was just like the perfect rocking chair porch.
• 26:40
  Steph: So we show up and they were gone, and then I start panicking.
• 26:45
  Steph: Come like, what else did they take?
• 26:46
  Steph: Or, you know, are they not trustworthy?
• 26:49
  Steph: We bought this house, what'd they do to it?
• 26:51
  Steph: Luckily, you know, they left a washer and dryer that was there, the fridge was there.
• 26:56
  Steph: So, yeah, like you said, it was just that we went back to look at the con that one contract and it was gone.
• 27:03
  Steph: So I don't know how.
• 27:04
  Adam: I think the washer and dryer was also potentially removed.
• 27:07
  Adam: Isn't that why you went and paid the and this is sort of a sketchy story too, but you went and paid the seller lady $500 cash or something?
• 27:17
  Steph: I had to give her $500 cash.
• 27:18
  Adam: That was so that we could buy like the washer dryer because it wasn't included in the contract and we wanted that to be part of the conveyance.
• 27:26
  Steph: So that's it's sketchy, and also I was petty because it wasn't $500, it was like $490, right?
• 27:34
  Steph: So I had went to the teller drive-thru thing and got $500 cash.
• 27:41
  Steph: I should have, in retrospect, like gone to Walmart or McDonald's for soda and broke the 20, but I didn't.
• 27:50
  Steph: I didn't think about it at the time.
• 27:51
  Steph: I just had to like it was in a hurry, like get this now within the hour.
• 27:54
  Steph: And I was like 45 minutes away.
• 27:57
  Steph: My kids were sleeping.
• 27:58
  Steph: I remember in the hotel.
• 27:59
  Steph: I had to load them all up while they were sleeping.
• 28:02
  Steph: We live on like was a third or fourth floor, you know.
• 28:05
  Steph: So I'm like carrying all these toddlers down while they're sleeping and fussing, trying to get to the bank, trying to get there in time.
• 28:12
  Steph: So I didn't even think about the fact they didn't have exact cash.
• 28:15
  Steph: So I gave her the money and then I asked for ten dollars back.
• 28:19
  Steph: And she was so mad, but I was like, Do you have change?
• 28:22
  Steph: And she didn't, but the person that was there was able to break my 20.
• 28:26
  Adam: There you go.
• 28:27
  Steph: And that was petty, but oh well, they were petty too.
• 28:32
  Adam: Indeed.
• 28:33
  Adam: So we just gotta get the fourth household, and then we can talk about that.
• 28:39
  Adam: But too early to tell right now.
• 28:42
  Steph: Yeah, again, this one.
• 28:44
  Steph: I mean, maybe we'll say it's easier than selling our second.
• 28:48
  Steph: It was easier showing it because we're not there.
• 28:51
  Adam: We didn't live there, yes.
• 28:52
  Steph: So our realtor has really done a lot of leg work.
• 28:55
  Steph: So I'm thankful for her.
• 28:56
  Steph: She does seems to be doing a great job.
• 28:58
  Steph: So I guess we'll find out how picky these people are or how on top of it they are.
• 29:03
  Steph: And hopefully we'll have it sold soon.
• 29:07
  Adam: There you go.
• 29:07
  Adam: And we'll be ready for our next house purchase someday in the future.
• 29:12
  Steph: Oh no.
• 29:13
  Steph: I like this home.
• 29:14
  Steph: I want to stay here for a while.
• 29:16
  Adam: Yeah, for a while.
• 29:17
  Adam: We'll do it.
• 29:18
  Steph: Our kids really like living here too.
• 29:21
  Steph: The neighborhood is really sweet.
• 29:24
  Adam: That's true.
• 29:24
  Adam: That's true.
• 29:25
  Adam: I don't know.
• 29:26
  Adam: I guess I've never really thought that a home would be a forever home.
• 29:30
  Adam: He thought the house number two was going to be that.
• 29:33
  Steph: Yes.
• 29:34
  Adam: And I somewhat shared that, but not to the same certainty that you did.
• 29:38
  Steph: Right, because that wasn't.
• 29:39
  Adam: Now you're certain now you're uncertain all the time, I suppose.
• 29:42
  Adam: Yeah.
• 29:42
  Adam: Now you're never committing to something be a forever home.
• 29:46
  Adam: Just for a while home.
• 29:48
  Steph: Right, yeah.
• 29:49
  Steph: Yeah.
• 29:50
  Steph: Because I know you.
• 29:51
  Steph: We've been married for 17 years now.
• 29:53
  Steph: It's I know what it's that we're just gonna move around.
• 29:56
  Steph: It's different.
• 29:56
  Steph: My parents live in the home that I was born in.
• 29:59
  Steph: They still live there.
• 30:00
  Steph: So I grew up very this is home.
• 30:03
  Steph: Uh so this is very most people I know in that back home stay in the same home.
• 30:09
  Steph: So this is not, but you moved around a lot as a kid.
• 30:13
  Adam: I did.
• 30:14
  Steph: So we're exactly.
• 30:15
  Steph: Oh not a lot.
• 30:16
  Adam: I mean people some people move like every two years or something.
• 30:19
  Adam: On average, I think I moved every six years.
• 30:23
  Steph: You've lived in every home I've ever lived in, other than college dorms.
• 30:27
  Adam: There you go.
• 30:28
  Steph: Because for a while we moved into my parents' home for a couple months.
• 30:32
  Adam: Yes.
• 30:32
  Adam: While we were trying to buy the short sale home.
• 30:35
  Steph: Yeah, the complicated home.
• 30:36
  Adam: The complicated home.
• 30:37
  Steph: That's why we didn't have a rush.
• 30:39
  Steph: Like we had somewhere we could stay.
• 30:41
  Steph: Maybe we weren't staying forever.
• 30:43
  Steph: We also knew that.
• 30:44
  Steph: But they also weren't like kicking us out, you know, next month.
• 30:48
  Adam: Indeed.
• 30:49
  Steph: So um, but yeah, every other than college, we've had the same address.
• 30:54
  Steph: So it's impressive.
• 30:56
  Steph: And then anytime above that, you've moved more than me.
• 31:00
  Adam: Indeed.
• 31:01
  Adam: So that is a bit about our home buying and selling experiences over the years and the definition of phopa.
• 31:10
  Adam: And then I suppose we'll get to the word rote next time.
• 31:14
  Steph: Sounds good.
• 31:15
  Adam: So from your friends at I Hate Talking, until next time, remember it is only through talking that we begin the journey to understanding.