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Lunch with the Clydesdale - It's Official! Carolyne Prevost is Going to the CrossFit Games! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

0:34
what is going on everybody
0:36
it is lunchtime lunch with
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the cladsdale uh on my day
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off didn't have to go into
0:42
work this morning got some
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stuff done around the house
0:46
talked to a friend um had a
0:48
good morning uh listened to
0:51
the fee sagafi interview on savan um
0:56
Yeah, all caught up with everything there.
0:59
C-O-O-One, what's going on?
1:01
Train to Live, Corey Leonard, Lito,
1:05
Kenneth, Jody, all in the chat already.
1:08
Good to see everybody.
1:10
Glad you could make it.
1:12
We're going darts today.
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I haven't done that.
1:14
I missed it for a couple weeks.
1:15
I think I've got some sights figured out.
1:18
So we're going to try this today.
1:22
Oh, my goodness.
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It may be.
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It may be the first ever bullseye.
1:31
It may be.
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It's going to be really close.
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Knowing my luck,
1:34
it's going to be just on the outside.
1:41
So let's see what we got here.
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don't know if you guys can
1:50
see that it is right there
1:54
on that piece of metal I
1:55
think I just missed by the
1:58
width of the piece of metal
2:03
oh my goodness you guys
2:05
were almost here for like
2:07
the first ever bullseye
2:15
yeah I think I missed man
2:17
by the width of the metal
2:22
I've got it sighted in now.
2:24
I know where to aim.
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We're going to get it.
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We're going to get this this week.
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I know it.
2:29
I know it now.
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I'm doing it left-handed.
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It's been a new kind of thing for me.
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I'm doing it from a seated
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position at a forty five degree angle.
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We're getting it this week.
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ah so last night we had an
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awesome show um man it felt
2:51
it felt fatiguing because
2:53
you know we got the news of
2:54
carolyn early yesterday
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morning worked on some
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stuff like that I wanted to
3:00
be able to ask her some
3:01
questions before she got
3:04
hit up by everybody else in
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the podcast world to come on their shows
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I wanted because she's she's
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us she's part of us so I
3:15
wanted that exclusive um
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thing and what I love about
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carolyn is you just never
3:20
know what answer you're
3:21
going to get from her like
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in my opinion as an
3:26
observer what she did at
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norcal like it was like one
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of the best performances
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I've seen from her in a couple years
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And I don't know if she
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found something magical or
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something in her training
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that got her there.
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And so I asked her about that.
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And I said,
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is this the fittest you've ever
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been going into the games?
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And she was like, nope.
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I was much fitter from
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twenty eight to thirty than I am today,
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that there has been some
3:56
decline in her lifts.
3:58
And like to get that brutal
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honesty from an athlete,
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you don't get that.
4:03
very often and so like it's
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all like take it all takes
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me back a little bit when a
4:10
back when she says things
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like that um but I know
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that she has to be I she is
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conflicted um we've talked
4:19
a little bit that being a
4:22
backfill is she said if I
4:24
was a backfill as a as a
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drug suspension she
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wouldn't feel like angst or
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anything at all but the
4:30
fact that someone got hurt
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And now it's a backfill.
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It is kind of a bit of a,
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a bit of a pool on her, but, and,
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and that she does have a
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sense of obligation that when she goes,
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she doesn't want to waste
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this opportunity.
4:47
Right.
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Here's Alex who, you know,
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a podium contender could be
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competing with Tia for the title.
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And Carolyn is taking her
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spot and feels an
4:58
obligation not to waste this opportunity.
5:03
that's a lot and that's
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pretty heavy um and I'm
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glad that she kind of
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shared a lot of that last
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night um with us uh I know
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we talked to her afterwards
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she has not booked a flight
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she's not booking a flight
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until she actually gets the
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email from crossfit so
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she's still kind of in
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limbo a little bit um but I
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know she's training hard
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her fitness is not going to
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be in question she is going
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to be ready from a training
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perspective for the games
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So that's pretty awesome.
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And then hopefully she gets
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that email today or tomorrow.
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She said she would let us
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know as soon as that happened,
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which we have not got word today yet.
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So hopefully something comes
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very shortly for her so we
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can get that locked in.
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But as a co-host and a friend,
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I could not be more proud.
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I have never been this
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connected to a CrossFit Games athlete.
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And I'm just super excited for her.
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Cannot wait to see her at the Games.
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And hopefully we get that enhanced access.
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And I just got a DM from Carolyn.
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She got the email.
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Literally just popped up as
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we were speaking.
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She got the email and it
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looks like it's official.
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so carolyn will be going to
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her fourth crossfit games
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and that is awesome so it
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is official everyone
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carolyn privo has received
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the email from crossfit
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giving her the invite to
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the crossfit games and it
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is official heard it here
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first just came through my
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dms as we were talking
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So now she can book those flights,
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she can get that hotel room,
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and hopefully I can get
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that enhanced access where
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we can get some footage of
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her behind the scenes at
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the CrossFit Games.
7:16
Lito says, breaking news,
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change the podcast title, Scott.
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I will.
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I will change it right after
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we're done here.
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So yeah,
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if you're just joining us just now,
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five minutes within the last five minutes,
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Carolyn Prevo officially
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got the email from CrossFit.
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She is going to the CrossFit Games.
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so that is awesome and I
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could not be any more proud
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of her uh the feels I got
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that she's getting to go um
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being a co-host with her on
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the show that has taken off
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for us this year and she's
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been a big part of that and
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I I'm just so excited for
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her that she gets another
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opportunity on the big
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stage and then what lito
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says up here how amazing is
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it though that she'll be doing both games
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because then she'll do those,
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she'll turn around,
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she'll come to Columbus,
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she'll do the Masters Games,
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where she is the number one
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seed in the thirty-five to
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thirty-nine-year-old division.
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Let's not forget that.
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She won both the Open and
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Semifinals and is coming
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into the CrossFit Games in
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the Masters Division as the
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number one seed.
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And she's going back to the
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Elite CrossFit Games
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another time for her fourth
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visit to the CrossFit Games.
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So exciting.
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So exciting.
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If you missed last night's
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show right off the top,
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we talked about Rich
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Froning's first pitch.
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And then right after that,
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we went into Carolyn
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getting the backfill most likely.
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And then today we officially
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find out that she did get the email.
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It is official.
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And she's off to the CrossFit Games.
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So super excited for her.
9:03
Um, I just got finished watching, uh,
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the feast of coffee interview with Savan.
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They talked about a lot of things, uh,
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majorly three big topics.
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Um,
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one is the documentary she did with
9:19
Hiller and how she has, um,
9:26
leaned into her
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Christianity much more this year.
9:33
Hold on, before we move on.
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Lito,
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I understand she's feeling conflicted
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about the Gazan situation,
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but she shouldn't.
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When you think about the
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fact that Kopiser has two spots,
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if NorCal had three spots,
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she would have qualified.
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That's a great point.
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She is not the thirty-first best athlete.
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She is definitely in the top
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thirty of the athletes
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going to the games.
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I will give you that.
10:03
There's no debate about that.
10:14
Fi has been leaning into her Christianity.
10:16
They talked about the Hiller
10:17
video and how she got
10:23
comfortable enough to talk
10:24
about being raped in
10:27
college and how that made
10:28
her start CrossFit.
10:31
And then I've had her on the
10:32
show and she's talked to me
10:35
about having very dark
10:36
thoughts in college,
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but she never gave the
10:39
explanation as to why.
10:41
And she did kind of imply
10:45
that those dark thoughts
10:46
led to suicidal thoughts.
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She explained that a lot
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more on Siobhan's podcast today.
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about the dark thoughts to
10:55
suicidal thoughts in the
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connection to being raped
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when she was in college and
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feeling alone and that
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there was nobody there for her.
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And wow.
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If you have any water in your eyes,
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it's going to start leaking
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because it was really, really powerful,
11:17
her talking about that.
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And then they went in to
11:20
discuss her signing the
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PFAA letter for the demands
11:25
to have Dave fired, the transparency,
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and the third one,
11:30
the release of the
11:35
third-party investigation.
11:38
When they were talking about that,
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I have follow-up questions myself.
11:43
Not that Siobhan did a bad job.
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It's just that...
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Fi trying to explain it
11:56
makes me believe some
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thoughts that I've always
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believed about the PFAA.
12:01
Of the eight people who
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signed that document,
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off the top of my head,
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I think there were only
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three at the games.
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So those three people are
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telling the story to the other five.
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And there you have this
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issue with it's going to be
12:23
tainted with their viewpoint,
12:25
whether they intended that or not.
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And so I believe it was Victoria Campos,
12:34
Pat Vellner,
12:35
and Brent Fikowski would be
12:38
telling the other five what
12:39
happened at the games.
12:41
And so you're getting
12:42
relayed information from
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somebody else and you're
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making a decision based on
12:47
what they felt in that moment.
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And it's,
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it's been no secret that Brent
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and Pat especially have had
12:56
a long standing feud with
12:59
Dave about the way things
13:01
are handled about their
13:02
place in the ecosystem and
13:06
And so I think that they are
13:08
naturally going to have a
13:10
slant that is anti-Dave.
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Fee answered that with...
13:18
Fee was not at the games last year, Lito.
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She did not qualify.
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Um...
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Fee answered Savan with that
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she loves Dave's programming.
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She thinks he should be programming,
13:39
but he shouldn't be making
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the safety decisions.
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That is not what the demand letter said.
13:46
The demand letter said he
13:47
should be removed as the
13:48
head or director of sport,
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meaning he would no longer be programming,
13:53
no longer setting up the games,
13:55
no longer doing any of this stuff.
13:57
So I get this feeling that
13:58
there's not a complete
13:59
understanding of what the
14:01
demands were to the people
14:03
who signed the letter.
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And again, I said last night,
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I've been texting with fee
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over the weekend.
14:11
And even before all of this
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stuff in the last few days
14:15
has happened with brute and
14:17
her and the interview with seven,
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I've been trying to get her on the show.
14:22
Um,
14:25
consider fia friend I wanted
14:26
to have her on um she calls
14:28
it coffee talk whenever
14:30
she's on with me I asked
14:31
her if she would do that
14:32
she said she would it's
14:33
just trying to find a time
14:35
that fits for her because I
14:36
know she's on another show
14:38
later this week and I do
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want to ask her some follow-ups to that
14:45
Because if she didn't
14:45
understand exactly what the letter was,
14:48
and she thought that Dave
14:49
would be... If they met the demand,
14:51
he would be staying on
14:52
programming and doing things like that.
14:55
That is not what the demand letter said.
14:58
And I'm curious to kind of know that.
15:05
And then they kind of
15:05
finished up their interview with...
15:09
um,
15:09
the relationship between her and
15:10
Danielle and how it's been
15:12
contentious for a while.
15:15
Um,
15:16
and that they had a talk about a month
15:18
ago to try to sort it all
15:19
out and just realize that
15:21
they're better off not being friends,
15:23
but it didn't need to be
15:25
contentious anymore.
15:26
And hopefully that, uh, is the case.
15:30
So really good interview.
15:33
It was two hours long.
15:35
Um,
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Doug Reed,
15:42
the demand letter clearly stated
15:44
Dave's removal from CF Sport.
15:46
I agree with you completely.
15:47
But that is not the
15:49
interpretation that Fee
15:50
gave in the interview today.
15:55
And so that's where I think
15:58
maybe she didn't completely
15:59
understand what the demand
16:02
letter was supposed to be,
16:04
if that makes sense.
16:10
Because it clearly stated in
16:11
the letter that it was removal from sport,
16:14
not necessarily removal from CrossFit.
16:17
Like they were okay with him
16:19
being back on education and
16:23
those types of things,
16:24
but not in the sport at all.
16:31
Doug, that's one way to look at it.
16:32
Brent being transparent as Brent can be.
16:35
That could be taken that way.
16:37
It also could be that...
16:39
he has a bias in the way he
16:42
feels about Dave and it's
16:44
going to exude from him
16:47
when he's explaining the
16:48
stories that happened at the games.
16:52
It goes back to my belief
16:53
that I do believe there's a
16:54
place for the PFAA and that
16:56
they should be there as a
16:58
representative of the
16:59
athletes and the athletes
17:00
should have some voice in that.
17:03
But I think the way they are
17:04
set up is not good for what
17:07
they're trying to accomplish.
17:09
I think it is very top-heavy,
17:11
and they put a lot of power
17:13
in the top few positions,
17:15
and the rest are just
17:16
supposed to trust them to
17:19
make those decisions
17:21
because they made one vote
17:22
one time a year.
17:27
So...
17:32
I think it's a very poor design.
17:33
I think if they had a board
17:34
of directors that were
17:36
representing everybody and
17:38
voting on mundane things all the time,
17:45
and then when you have the
17:46
big votes like a demand letter,
17:48
it goes back to the body
17:51
that is a more authentic
17:55
way to go about it.
18:00
Corey says,
18:01
never sign something you
18:01
haven't read and fully understood.
18:04
Yeah,
18:04
I always read those long privacy
18:09
claims that I get in the
18:10
email that I have to sign
18:12
to be able to watch my
18:14
streaming channel or to pay my bill.
18:18
Always read every word of that.
18:28
Corey Brent has been bitter
18:29
ever since the year he and
18:30
Pat got cut from the games
18:32
before they did any meaningful CrossFit.
18:36
I think this is,
18:39
they make it sound like
18:41
CrossFit doesn't listen to
18:42
them when in fact CrossFit
18:44
may have listened to them
18:46
and just doesn't agree with
18:47
what they're saying.
18:49
There's a difference there.
18:51
And I don't think in their mind there is.
19:03
Do you think she
19:04
misunderstood or that this
19:06
was just her justification
19:07
explanation of why she voted?
19:10
I,
19:10
I generally believe Lito that she
19:13
misunderstood.
19:15
I've known fee a while.
19:17
She grew up here in Ohio.
19:20
I knew her around the local
19:22
comp circuit before she
19:25
made it to the games.
19:26
I, and then I'm naive too.
19:30
Like I really believe in the
19:31
best in people for the most part.
19:37
fee has never ever said
19:39
anything that I didn't believe.
19:42
I really truly believe that Brent and Pat,
19:46
mostly Brent run the PFAA
19:49
and they put some votes in
19:50
place to make it.
19:52
So they have the power to
19:53
make decisions and they can
19:55
then enforce their agenda as the PFAA.
20:01
I think that, and I like Brent,
20:03
I've had Brent on a bunch of times, uh,
20:05
But I do believe that he
20:07
believes that he knows the
20:09
way it should go and the
20:10
way that the organization should go.
20:13
And he puts the votes in
20:15
place to make it so that he can do that.
20:18
And what I think it's doing
20:20
is setting them up to fail
20:22
because he's not truly
20:24
acting on behalf of all the athletes.
20:26
He's enacting stuff on
20:29
what's best for him and his ideas.
20:33
If you look back at what the
20:34
PFAA has enacted,
20:36
it has all been
20:36
height-required things like
20:40
ring height requirements,
20:42
pull-up bar requirement heights.
20:46
whether you should have
20:48
risers or not underneath those bars.
20:51
Those are all things that he
20:52
was passionate about when
20:54
he first took this over.
20:57
And none of it had to do with safety.
20:59
None of it had to do with
21:00
safety until what happened to Lazar.
21:02
Nobody questioned the safety
21:03
of the games until what
21:05
happened with Lazar.
21:11
I think, and this is my personal opinion,
21:13
I have no facts to back this up.
21:16
I think they took the
21:17
tragedy of the games and
21:18
Lazar's death to think that
21:21
they could make a leap into
21:23
being more important than they were.
21:26
And it failed and it failed miserably.
21:36
Corey Leonard, you can,
21:37
you can listen to someone
21:38
and not give into what they're demanding.
21:41
I hear you and I understand your concerns,
21:43
but that isn't something we
21:44
are going to address.
21:53
If you go back and watch the
21:55
Dave interviews prior to the games,
21:57
Pat clearly had an ax to grind.
22:00
I,
22:01
That was not a secret.
22:02
Brent and Pat have had an ax
22:04
to grind against Dave for years.
22:07
They were two of the three
22:07
people from the eight that
22:09
were at the games.
22:10
If they were the ones
22:11
conveying the messages as
22:12
to what happened at the games,
22:14
it's going to have a bias
22:15
to the other five.
22:18
And again,
22:19
what Fee said in that interview
22:22
was that she wanted Dave to
22:23
stay on running the games.
22:25
She just didn't want him
22:26
making safety decisions.
22:28
That is not what the demand letter said.
22:31
If that was her impression,
22:32
something got missed in translation.
22:40
COO one, two thousand percent.
22:49
Every time I attack the PFAA,
22:51
I get dogged in comments.
22:53
So I'm sure this is going to come.
22:55
And again,
22:56
I believe there is a place for
22:58
an athlete organization,
23:00
but this one is not run well.
23:02
It is not organized well.
23:05
They leave themselves open
23:07
for these types of attacks.
23:10
And Siobhan made a good
23:11
point this morning.
23:13
Do good service for a while
23:15
and build up some equity.
23:17
And then you can have these
23:17
conversations and make a difference.
23:21
Making demand letters gets you nowhere.
23:34
So, Gita Reads,
23:35
Seve posted a link to your show just now,
23:37
Scott.
23:37
So awesome.
23:39
He has been awesome, though.
23:40
It has not gone unnoticed,
23:43
the amount of promotion he
23:44
has done for our channel and our show.
23:47
I truly appreciate that.
23:55
Fikowski and Vellner are
23:56
trying to make a second
23:57
career out of this.
23:58
I agree.
24:00
That was another thing
24:01
Fikowski said in the Mayhem podcast.
24:04
And I think it was actually
24:05
Rich saying that he didn't
24:06
think an active athlete
24:07
should be the one running the PFAA.
24:10
In all other sports,
24:11
the unions are run by an active athlete.
24:13
The president of the union
24:15
is an active athlete.
24:17
Who better knows what the
24:18
active athletes need than
24:19
an active athlete?
24:21
I think that retired
24:23
athletes or close to
24:24
retired athletes have a
24:26
different opinion as to what they need.
24:28
So I don't think that's the
24:29
best way to go about things.
24:41
So anyway,
24:48
That's that.
24:50
Again, I have reached out to Fi.
24:52
We've been talking.
24:54
Hopefully I can have her on
24:55
and I can ask that
24:56
follow-up question because
24:58
I do think that there isn't.
25:01
Andrew Sten, the president of the NFLPA,
25:04
the NFLPA is an active athlete.
25:11
There is a person above that person
25:15
but the president of the
25:17
NFLPA is an active athlete.
25:25
Larry Young, I don't blame Dave.
25:27
Things happen in sports,
25:28
but I also think if we are
25:29
testing for the fittest,
25:30
more than one person should
25:31
be programming the games.
25:32
Everyone has biases.
25:38
I don't disagree.
25:39
I mean, that...
25:47
I don't know that's an
25:53
interesting thought I think
25:57
that there needs to be
25:59
somebody over the
26:00
programming Larry so that
26:02
it has like some continuity
26:03
to it and to make sure
26:05
you're not repeating things
26:06
too much but should there
26:09
be more than one person
26:10
involved I do think there
26:12
is more than one person
26:13
involved I do think that
26:15
Dave talks to people and
26:19
But if you're saying that
26:20
maybe those people should
26:21
change from time to time,
26:22
maybe that's the answer.
26:23
I don't know.
26:25
Uh, understand.
26:30
Oh, okay.
26:31
So is the person above the president,
26:33
the one running it?
26:37
it's usually an attorney
26:38
that is above it who,
26:40
who can help draft up the
26:41
languages and things like that.
26:43
But I don't think the person
26:45
that you're referring to is running it.
26:47
I don't remember the exact
26:48
term for that person.
26:49
I don't think they have a vote.
26:51
That's the difference.
26:53
The president has a vote and
26:55
is an active player.
26:57
And then each team has a
26:58
team rep and they are the,
27:01
like the upper body voting members and,
27:09
Larry Bos and Dave had different results.
27:11
I don't disagree with you.
27:13
I think they have different philosophies.
27:16
So whoever is going to run
27:17
it is surely going to have
27:18
a different philosophy.
27:20
Um,
27:22
And as we were talking last night,
27:23
we did the top five
27:24
favorite tests from the CrossFit Games.
27:28
And a lot of them came from Boz's year.
27:30
And it may be recency bias
27:33
because it was only twenty twenty two.
27:35
And it may be that it just
27:38
was different than what we've seen.
27:40
So people were more akin to
27:43
enjoying that a little bit
27:44
more because it was
27:45
different than what we'd seen.
27:47
So that I guess it makes.
27:53
it makes an argument for you.
28:04
Uh, Jody Lynn always love your top fives.
28:07
Yeah.
28:07
Last one last night's was, uh,
28:10
we thought it was going to
28:11
be a light show because we
28:12
didn't have much news and
28:14
then the alex kazan thing
28:15
broke and so the top five
28:18
tests from the games
28:19
actually was kind of we
28:21
went through it quickly it
28:22
was actually designed to
28:23
have more debate to it um
28:25
but then with everything
28:26
that broke we had to kind
28:27
of jump into that so there
28:36
you go with that
28:40
last thing I wanted to talk
28:41
about is at the end of the
28:43
show last night we got into
28:45
this ramble about the split
28:48
as as to what's going on in
28:49
the ecosystem how you have
28:52
metfix affiliates and hyrox
28:54
affiliates and wfp
28:56
affiliates all competing
28:58
for the crossfit affiliates
29:01
and I know I've been
29:02
hitting metfix pretty hard
29:04
for the last week plus but
29:06
I want you to know where that comes from
29:11
And I don't mean to be a dead horse,
29:13
but I was an obese person
29:15
who walked into a CrossFit
29:16
gym looking for help.
29:20
When I got Pete Shaw to come
29:22
on the show...
29:24
I wanted to know what new, shiny,
29:27
fancy thing they had that I
29:30
was missing out on.
29:32
And I truly wanted to learn from him,
29:35
what are you bringing to
29:36
the table that I'm missing?
29:38
Because if it's going to
29:39
help me with weight loss
29:41
and being fit and being healthy,
29:44
I want to know about it.
29:47
So I dive into my research
29:48
and I'm having a hard time
29:50
figuring out where the
29:52
difference is between them and CrossFit.
29:57
So I have Pete on the show.
29:59
I start asking him questions.
30:01
He starts diving into this
30:02
technical jargon.
30:05
And I ask him, okay,
30:09
the people in the chat are losing you.
30:11
I'm losing you.
30:12
Can you put in layman's terms for me,
30:16
what it is that you have
30:18
that CrossFit doesn't have.
30:20
Whether you are an extension
30:22
of the L-One or you're
30:23
trying to replace the L-One,
30:25
what is it that you have
30:27
that is different?
30:30
And his response to me was,
30:32
as I've been paraphrasing it is,
30:34
we don't want to give that all away.
30:36
We want you to dig for it
30:38
because then it'll mean more to you.
30:43
that's not the exact thing he said.
30:46
He said,
30:46
it's not designed to be spoon fed
30:48
to the individual.
30:50
We want them to do more research,
30:52
et cetera.
30:56
As someone who is begging for help,
30:59
that is the last thing you
31:01
should be doing to me.
31:02
When I walk into a place for
31:05
help is hiding behind the science.
31:11
What was beautiful about
31:12
what Greg did initially was
31:14
that he had this concept of
31:17
how to help people get
31:19
metabolically corrected.
31:21
And that was get up off the damn couch,
31:24
stop eating sugar.
31:27
Super, super simple.
31:31
Get up off the couch, stop eating sugar.
31:37
Now, there was a few more words around it.
31:39
And then he preached that
31:41
down to these people that
31:42
were so passionate about it,
31:44
they paid money to become
31:46
an affiliate because they
31:49
wanted to help people.
31:52
Those affiliates then opened
31:54
their doors to the general
31:56
public to walk in.
31:59
So when I walked through that door,
32:02
I walked in scared as hell.
32:05
thinking this can't be a place for me.
32:08
And within five minutes,
32:10
the people inside that
32:11
building changed my mind.
32:16
And with that, changed my life.
32:23
Simple as that.
32:26
What the last week and a
32:27
half has done for me,
32:28
and I'm not here to bang on Netflix again,
32:31
or Metflix again, Metfix again.
32:35
I'm here to say what the
32:37
last week and a half has
32:38
done for me is made me fall
32:41
in love with the affiliates
32:43
all over again.
32:45
I'm not here to hate on Metfix.
32:48
I'm here to love on the affiliates.
32:54
What they do is awesome.
32:58
How they open their door and
33:00
love on people who walk
33:02
through that door is awesome.
33:05
And that's how you're going
33:07
to cure the metabolic crisis.
33:11
It's not by telling me that
33:13
there is a new way to
33:16
create metabolic
33:18
flexibility if you just do blah, blah,
33:20
and blah.
33:23
That means nothing to me.
33:27
What I needed is a person to come over,
33:30
give me a hug,
33:32
tell me that this Murph workout,
33:34
we're going to figure out a
33:35
way to get you through this,
33:37
and we're going to make you
33:38
feel strong about yourself,
33:40
and we're going to make you
33:41
feel like an athlete again.
33:46
And once you do that and you
33:47
feel what that's like,
33:50
Then we're going to talk
33:51
about how you can change
33:53
your diet up to promote
33:57
coming here and being more
33:58
and more successful.
34:04
And when I first walked into
34:05
that affiliate,
34:06
it was eat the foods that
34:09
are going to give you
34:10
energy and power to do what
34:12
you need to do here.
34:15
And if that food doesn't
34:16
help you out coming in here,
34:18
don't eat it.
34:21
It was as simple as that.
34:24
I went from like,
34:24
five hundred and twenty
34:25
pounds to two hundred and sixty pounds.
34:30
Getting off the couch,
34:32
walking into an affiliate,
34:34
and eating the food that helped me out,
34:36
and not eating the food
34:38
that didn't help me out.
34:45
And so,
34:46
because now I've remembered my love,
34:50
And I'm reminded as to why I
34:52
love the affiliates.
34:55
I'm really freaking upset at MedFix.
34:59
Because it's not just
35:01
CrossFit rebranded without
35:03
the L-One and without the
35:05
sport in addition.
35:07
It is someone trying to take
35:10
away what we have that's so beautiful.
35:18
Because the affiliates are beautiful.
35:21
The affiliates are what
35:23
CrossFit is all about.
35:27
These coaches,
35:28
these gym owners who care
35:30
about their customers so much,
35:33
that's what's important.
35:37
And what MedFix is trying to
35:38
do is take that away.
35:43
They add one new concept of
35:45
metabolic flexibility and
35:49
then don't really explain it well.
35:54
And then they say, hey,
35:55
join us because we're going
35:57
to talk about nutrition more.
36:00
Talking about nutrition more
36:02
doesn't help me lose more weight.
36:04
Understanding what I'm doing
36:06
helps me lose more weight.
36:10
More is not better.
36:13
And in this case, simple is better.
36:17
If all your more is doing is
36:19
making it more complicated,
36:23
we've lost it you've lost it
36:28
science is cool once you
36:30
figure all this stuff out
36:31
and you want to dive into
36:32
the science more power to
36:33
you that's what broken
36:35
science does and that's
36:37
cool but broken science
36:41
doesn't walk into the gym
36:42
and try to tell you how to lose weight
36:45
They're just out there as a
36:46
resource for people to read,
36:49
for people to go look at.
36:50
And then it's up to those
36:51
affiliate owners who care
36:52
so much to love on these
36:55
individuals who walk
36:56
through the door and help
36:57
them with whatever they are looking for,
37:00
whether it's gaining weight,
37:01
whether it's losing weight,
37:02
whether it's gaining muscle,
37:04
whether it's getting a first pull-up,
37:06
whether any of these things.
37:09
And our affiliates are so good at that.
37:13
So good.
37:17
that these people who are
37:18
trying to take it away are
37:20
really starting to piss me off.
37:28
So it's not like I'm trying
37:29
to do hit pieces on, on met fix.
37:37
I,
37:37
I just don't try to take away my
37:41
CrossFit affiliate that
37:42
helped me change my life.
37:50
Jay Burch, here's my answer to this.
37:53
What is that MedFix
37:54
affiliation doing for that affiliate?
37:57
Again,
37:58
nobody could answer my question as
38:00
to what are you adding to
38:01
the pot to help me accomplish my goals.
38:09
And nobody's willing to give
38:11
you that answer.
38:12
Go back and read the
38:13
transcript from my talk with Pete Shaw.
38:15
He tells you
38:17
that they don't want to make
38:18
it digestible for you.
38:21
They don't want you to be spoon-fed.
38:24
They don't want you to understand.
38:26
They want you to dig more for yourself.
38:29
None of that helps me.
38:37
It's all got to be smoke and
38:38
mirrors coming after what
38:41
is remaining of the
38:42
affiliates in this system.
38:45
And that sucks.
38:48
They're trying to convert.
38:50
I don't think they're trying
38:51
to add on to the CrossFit affiliation.
38:54
I think they are trying to
38:55
convert the CrossFit affiliates to them.
39:00
If they were just coming on
39:01
as an accessory,
39:02
why would they pay people
39:04
like Athena to not use the
39:07
word CrossFit when she tells her story,
39:09
but to only use Greg's methodology?
39:15
And it's coming out that
39:16
Athena was not the only one
39:18
offered money.
39:20
MDL ones were offered the money.
39:28
What hurts with weight loss
39:29
and trying to become
39:31
healthy is getting things
39:33
overcomplicated and not
39:36
focusing on the simple.
39:48
Jody Lynn, in my geographical area,
39:51
the only Metfix affiliates
39:52
are longtime CrossFit gyms,
39:54
so I see it as an
39:55
allegiance to Greg Glassman,
39:56
even though he isn't a part of it.
40:02
I don't disagree with you at all, Jody.
40:03
I do believe that the gyms
40:06
that have Dovan are because of Greg.
40:11
And Greg technically is involved.
40:12
He's not saying, hey, this is not my idea.
40:17
He's giving them clearance
40:20
to use his material.
40:24
He wouldn't do that if he's
40:25
not a part of it.
40:28
But I think they've lost
40:31
sight as to what CrossFit's
40:36
plan was initially.
40:39
And that was to get you off
40:40
the couch and stop eating sugar.
40:49
Talking in all these
40:50
technical terms does not
40:52
help me figure out my
40:54
weight loss problem any
40:56
more than the man on the moon.
41:00
And I think that the WFP,
41:02
now that I'm seeing things in a new light,
41:06
maybe did things in a way
41:07
that wasn't cool either.
41:09
The only difference between
41:10
WFP and Metfix is that WFP is not,
41:15
I don't think they're
41:16
having the effect on the
41:17
affiliates that Metfix is having.
41:30
Jay Birch,
41:30
I don't think the allure is for
41:32
the gym goer.
41:32
It's for the gym owner.
41:36
Okay.
41:40
Here's where I disagree a little bit is I,
41:44
as a gym goer, because I don't own a gym,
41:48
was trying to figure out
41:49
what part of my nutrition
41:50
am I missing and what do I
41:52
need to get from them to be better?
41:56
And I spent a week trying to
41:57
figure that out.
41:59
And I could not figure it out.
42:03
So if you're sending that
42:04
message out there for me to
42:07
grab off of Instagram or to
42:08
grab off the internet or off your website,
42:18
again,
42:19
and it totally discounts the fact
42:21
that they are doing things
42:22
like trying to pay people
42:24
to not mention CrossFit and
42:26
to mention them.
42:35
Aaron Frazier,
42:35
you didn't spend enough time.
42:38
That's my point.
42:40
I spent a week.
42:42
And if I'm an obese individual,
42:44
which I'm still trying to lose weight,
42:48
and I'm spending a week to
42:49
try to figure something out,
42:51
you've lost me.
42:52
You've lost me as a program
42:55
to help me out.
42:56
It just, it can't be done.
43:01
denise moore you own a
43:02
garage gym I do not not an
43:05
affiliated one but I do own
43:06
a garage gym denise just
43:10
seems shady to me I I agree
43:13
I think any everything
43:14
they're doing right now is
43:15
shady but I don't want to
43:20
keep talking about it I
43:21
wanted I wanted this to be
43:22
the final thing about it
43:24
and then I'm going to move
43:25
on and get back to the fun stuff
43:28
I wanted you to know where I
43:29
was coming from this was
43:31
about going back and
43:33
remembering the magic of
43:35
what helped me out and what
43:38
were the simple things I
43:39
did to move forward in
43:42
losing weight and to become
43:44
healthier and to become
43:45
more fit and I needed that
43:48
I needed that reset button
43:49
to go back to the beginning
43:51
and figure this out
43:53
But in that process of
43:55
remembering that and
43:56
learning that again and
43:58
falling in love again,
44:00
I got upset at Metfix for
44:02
trying to distract me away
44:04
from the simplicity that is
44:06
already there and available to all of us.
44:18
I know you were being sarcastic, Aaron.
44:24
We need a nutrition coach
44:25
that doesn't regurgitate
44:26
the same old routine.
44:27
For me, my age, it's not going to work.
44:29
I dropped sixty pounds this
44:31
year but had to go to
44:32
sixteen hundred calories,
44:33
lose all muscle from
44:35
everywhere and everyone.
44:40
Yes, sixteen hundred calories is rough.
44:56
I know everybody's saying congrats.
44:58
It's at what cost does it come with?
45:03
What cost does that sixty
45:04
pounds come with?
45:11
Because I'm trying to get
45:14
back to a point where I
45:15
don't care about the pounds.
45:16
Where I just care about
45:19
eating only what helps me.
45:22
getting up off the couch and
45:24
doing what I need to do and
45:26
not eating what doesn't
45:27
help me and yeah uh cory
45:35
couldn't say it any better
45:36
than that yeah that is that's rough
45:45
But I'm to the point where
45:46
I'm back to cutting vegetables.
45:49
I have radishes and
45:51
cauliflower and carrots and
45:52
celery and peppers in my
45:55
crisper all the time where
45:57
I just open up a bag and that's my snack.
46:01
And I love those things.
46:02
So why isn't that cool?
46:04
And I have some fruit in my fridge.
46:06
I have some cherries and
46:08
grapes and apples and
46:10
Some pineapple and that's there too.
46:14
And then everything else is
46:15
just eat some chicken,
46:17
eat some carb at every meal,
46:21
eat some beef, eat some carb.
46:24
I'm just trying to get back
46:25
to the simplicity of everything.
46:35
Vicki, I'm with you.
46:38
I'm with you.
46:38
I lost fifty five pounds.
46:40
I wouldn't have done it if I
46:41
had to go digging and
46:42
essentially getting a PhD to find it.
46:45
There you go.
46:52
A hundred grams of protein a day,
46:54
and I'm still pretty strong
46:55
for an old guy.
46:56
I'm just saying it's
46:57
different for all of us
46:58
need to lose another forty.
47:00
It's not really happening.
47:02
See,
47:03
that's where MedFix got me is you hit
47:06
these plateaus and you want
47:08
to lose more and you want
47:09
to get even healthier.
47:11
And so you're trying to find
47:12
that next magic piece to
47:14
move you from plan A to
47:17
plan B. And it's all smoke and mirrors.
47:22
And when you fight,
47:23
you just get so discouraged with that.
47:25
But really,
47:26
it's just about resetting
47:27
yourself and getting back
47:28
to day one and do it all for you.
47:38
Denise Moore,
47:38
I have to eat a hundred and
47:39
seventy grams of protein to
47:40
maintain my muscle.
47:44
And that's why you are one
47:45
of the strongest bad-ass
47:47
women in the masters CrossFit field.
47:59
Yeah.
48:00
I'm with Andrew.
48:02
That doesn't seem like enough protein,
48:03
Larry.
48:08
so all right guys I'm gonna
48:12
end on this little note I
48:13
know we are really long
48:14
today thank goodness I have
48:15
the day off um saw the
48:19
movie heads of state over
48:20
the weekend uh if you have
48:22
not seen it on amazon prime
48:24
it's john cena and I just
48:26
alba and one plays the
48:28
prime minister of the uk
48:31
and one plays the president
48:33
and it is a fun fun action
48:38
adventure movie um it
48:44
really fun if you're into
48:46
like eighties action movies
48:48
it's got all of that for
48:49
you I really enjoyed it
48:52
never gonna win an academy
48:53
award um but I if you just want like
48:58
two hours of brain dead,
49:00
shoot them up car chase scenes.
49:02
Um, that's what it is.
49:04
And it is give it a, a full B plus, uh,
49:09
kept me entertained.
49:10
Just like C O O one said,
49:13
kept me entertained.
49:14
Uh, but really fun movie to watch.
49:18
Um, yeah.
49:23
Larry Young.
49:24
I'm, I'm same Scott smoking mirrors.
49:26
I just don't believe it at all anymore.
49:28
About to squat five hundred
49:30
and ten minutes.
49:31
There you go.
49:32
I haven't,
49:33
I haven't hit five hundred since
49:34
high school.
49:35
I hit four,
49:37
four seventy a couple years ago
49:41
after a couple back surgeries,
49:44
which I probably shouldn't have done.
49:46
And then I've not gone up
49:47
for those numbers lately.
49:49
I always wanted to hit five
49:50
hundred late in life.
49:52
Uh,
49:54
But I think my back just
49:56
will not be able to do it anymore.
50:04
Jay Birch could stand to
50:05
lose fifty myself.
50:07
Andrew Sten, go see the F-One movie,
50:09
even if you're not into racing.
50:10
The cinematics are incredible.
50:12
Best racing movie ever made.
50:17
Corey Leonard went and saw
50:18
the new Jurassic Park this weekend.
50:20
Standard Jurassic Park shenanigans.
50:23
uh larry young daughter
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making me do jurassic yeah
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I I saw this morning where
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um what's her name that's
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in the new jurassic park oh
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gosh why am I having I can
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picture her scarlett
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johansson scarlett
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johansson uh has now become the biggest
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or highest paid actor in cinematic history,
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or highest grossing maybe, I don't know,
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with the Jurassic Park
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movie this weekend.
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Corey's review, spoiler alert,
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people get eaten by dinosaurs.
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Scarlett Johansson phones it in.
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Jay Burch, has anyone seen Sinners?
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I actually looked at that last night.
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Because Buddy Guy,
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who I just saw in concert a few weeks ago,
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is supposed to be in it,
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but it's a horror movie and
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I don't do horror movies.
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So I did not click on it.
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savant doesn't scarlet have
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four adopted kids who are
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all queer what are the odds
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I I don't know I don't
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think she has any adopted
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kids I think you're
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thinking angelina jolie
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maybe uh cory six two is
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two sixty two this morning
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that's that's a big man
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Uh, CO one centers is great.
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Kind of a play on dusk till dawn.
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Uh, Jeremy eats world.
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Isn't seven queer.
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I don't know.
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He's find out an answer.
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Uh, Judy Reed.
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I'm usually not a fan of Scarlet,
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but I liked her in this movie.
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Okay.
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I like her as black widow.
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black leather outfit doesn't
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hurt her a bit but that's
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just me with that guys we
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have really long today but
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I want to thank you all for
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jumping into the chat it's
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been a fun day and yeah
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have a good one and we'll
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be back tomorrow for lunch
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with the Clydesdale and
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don't forget we got
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official word during this show
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Carolyn Prevo got the email from CrossFit.
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She is going to the CrossFit Games.
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It is official at this moment.
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With that, have a great day, everybody.
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We'll see you next time on
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Lunch with the Clydesdale.