Latest / The Action Catalyst / Become Unstoppable, with Alden Mills (Leadership, Positive Mindset, Military, Accountability)
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- 0:00Alden Mills: How are you?
- 0:36Stephanie Maas: I'm well, how are you?
- 0:48Alden Mills: I'm doing great. It's a little crazy over here.
- 0:52But it's an honor to be here.
- 0:54Stephanie Maas: So I've got a silly question to start. How
- 0:56many pushups did you do this morning?
- 0:58Alden Mills: Ha, oh, you know, probably five.
- 1:04Stephanie Maas: I appreciate the honest answer.
- 1:05Alden Mills: Yeah, I didn't do a lot this morning.
- 1:09Stephanie Maas: Well, first of all, thank you so much for
- 1:11spending this time with us. Obviously, as you know, an
- 1:14incredibly impressive background. Thank you for your
- 1:17service. And this idea of discovering the vulnerability
- 1:21that you can't do it alone. I think so many of us are trained
- 1:27that asking for help is a weakness. Can you talk to me a
- 1:30little bit about where that came from with you, etc.
- 1:33Alden Mills: The very first place that I discovered that you
- 1:38definitely can't do it yourself. I had been diagnosed with asthma
- 1:41at the age of 12. Well, that I should lead a less active
- 1:44lifestyle. And mom had totally different ideas on that. And she
- 1:50would say things like, no, no one finds what you can do. But
- 1:53you you decide what you can do. And as I went down that journey,
- 1:57and at the time, it was a physical goal that I was really
- 2:00out there. I just wanted to be good at something physically.
- 2:02Well, I was terrible at every ball sport I tried. And then I
- 2:06find the sport of rowing, where I could sit on my butt and go
- 2:09backwards for long periods of time. And I was like, Hey, I
- 2:11could do this. But it was during that time period that I realized
- 2:15it was such a hard training evolution, I really needed
- 2:19support. It was only because a senior came down when I was a
- 2:23sophomore. And he said he wants you to come train with me. And
- 2:27it was because of him that I saw the power of what it was like
- 2:31working together instead of alone. Fast forward seven years.
- 2:36I'm in basic training and SEAL team. And we had this seal
- 2:40instructor, the thick Boston accent. And he would say there
- 2:45ain't no Rambo's and SEAL team, you think you're a Rambo, we're
- 2:49gonna weed you out, every one of us got a weakness, we got to
- 2:53find each other to take care of each other's weakness. And he
- 2:56would keep going after us on this no Rambo concept. And it's
- 3:00the polar opposite in SEAL team. Seal Team is designed SEAL
- 3:05training, it's designed to find your weakness exploit it, you
- 3:08confront it. And then you find and surround yourself with
- 3:11people who don't have that weakness. And I found a lot of
- 3:14those weaknesses was another seven years after that I'm
- 3:16sitting in business school. And I find a whole bunch of
- 3:20weaknesses. There were engineering and spreadsheets, I
- 3:23couldn't even figure out what a spreadsheet was at first, and
- 3:26how quickly I needed to build teams and teams that were based
- 3:30around my vulnerabilities. And I had to be vulnerable enough to
- 3:34let them know, this is what I am terrible at, I suck at this. But
- 3:39here's the one thing I can do really well. And the faster that
- 3:43we would come together, you were breaking through this
- 3:47vulnerability layer of ice that all of a sudden, everyone felt
- 3:50so much more comfortable. And from that I've built multiple
- 3:54companies really based off of the vulnerability of being self
- 3:58aware enough to know I can't do it all then you got the
- 4:02opportunity to be on stop altogether.
- 4:05Stephanie Maas: is trusting other people. I mean, a lot of
- 4:12folks, especially in leadership positions, they have this
- 4:17reputation of being control freaks. So how do you build that
- 4:22trust? And we know I mean, people are human, they're gonna
- 4:25let us down. When they do. How do you keep going with that?
- 4:30Alden Mills: You can't have any team without trust. Trust is the
- 4:33absolute number one single fundamental, when you are
- 4:37meeting somebody for the first time, I want you to think about
- 4:41the fact that they're all wearing a pair of Terminator
- 4:43glasses. At one point the camera switches to be what you can see
- 4:49from the terminators point of view through those classes right
- 4:52and now you're seeing a heads up display for the first time and,
- 4:56and facial recognition as she's walking into the bar looking for
- 4:59Sarah Eric honor that his Sakana. Right, and then all hell
- 5:03breaks loose. That's what people are doing. But it's not Sarah
- 5:06Connor now. It's Can I trust this leader, and the number one
- 5:11filter they're looking at is, can I trust this person? Can I
- 5:15be safe enough to be vulnerable enough to tell this person, this
- 5:20isn't the way we should go, or I have a better idea or, you know,
- 5:24let me give you this suggestion. And the reason they're going to
- 5:27be doing that is they're waiting for you to take the first step
- 5:30on trust. And here's how I want you to think of trust. Trust is
- 5:34like a boom array, you're going to have to put out a bunch of
- 5:37energy, send it out into the universe, sometimes it's going
- 5:41to come right back to you. And it's going to be overwhelmingly
- 5:44positive energy. And sometimes that Boomerang is lost doesn't
- 5:48come back. But if you can get comfortable with the fact that
- 5:51if you lead with love, as your main driver of emotion, you'll
- 5:56always give more trust, because you know that those that send a
- 6:01boomerang of trust back to you, the force multipliers for you,
- 6:05those that don't, they're wounded, they're insecure, they
- 6:09have stunted their own gross, they will only always be about
- 6:13themselves, they won't ever be able to team up to the level
- 6:16that you're looking for. And maybe over time, if you remain
- 6:19consistent, they'll come to the light with you. But if you
- 6:22always grow freak, that's leading with fear. And when you
- 6:27lead with fear, you are much more apt not to take the risks,
- 6:31you're going to be worried so much about getting just the next
- 6:35thing, right, you're going to miss the opportunities that are
- 6:37around the corner, because you're too concerned about what
- 6:40is going to happen to you, you must be concerned about how to
- 6:43help others. When you add those components together, then
- 6:48they'll understand. And they'll start daring, a little bit more.
- 6:52I use the term daring because trust is built off of care, I
- 6:57developed what's called the care loop. I made an acronym out of
- 7:00care, which is connected Qi and respect and power. And it's a
- 7:03loop and I think of it like a flywheel. And to get the
- 7:07flywheel up and spinning. You have to give Forrest your care
- 7:11to others when they may not care if you do that consistently
- 7:14enough. And people feel cared for may feel like Hey, Stephanie
- 7:18has gotten her back. It's okay, if I go out and try something
- 7:21I've never done before. Because I know if I fail, she's got my
- 7:24back. And she will take care of me. And that caring leads to
- 7:29daring, builds the trust that allows people to dare for you.
- 7:35Stephanie Maas: Going in a little bit different direction.
- 7:37So one of the things I learned in your background was from a
- 7:39young age, you've always had this invention oriented mindset.
- 7:44But your first I think major launching was the perfect
- 7:49pushup, right?
- 7:49Alden Mills: No, I had two companies before that, that were
- 7:53fantastic failures.
- 7:55Stephanie Maas: Okay, well, let's talk about coming back
- 7:58from failure.
- 7:59Alden Mills: Well, let me tell you, my first big failure that I
- 8:02thought I had done so spectacularly wrong was leaving
- 8:07SEAL team, you know, when you leave SEAL team, they have you
- 8:10stand up in front of the entire team, and they say, Hey, Bailey,
- 8:15I cried. That day was awful. And about a week later, you know, I
- 8:18jump out of a helicopter for my last day. And then a week later,
- 8:22I'm sitting in a quantitative skills review program at
- 8:25Carnegie Mellon University, and it looks Greek on the board. I'm
- 8:29like, Oh, my God, what have I done. And I went back into
- 8:33reserves. And my wife says to me, she's like, well, you know,
- 8:37I'll support whatever you'd like to do. But if you really want to
- 8:40be this entrepreneur that you keep talking about, now, it'd be
- 8:42the time to do it, we don't have kids just have a dog. At that
- 8:46point, is when, you know, I turned my first big failure of
- 8:51this civilian experience into something where I figured I
- 8:56could make it. And that turn was making the shift from Oh, it's
- 9:02all about the money to know what's really important to me.
- 9:06And what's really important to me, is the joy I got from
- 9:10serving others. I then was sitting there as a civilian and
- 9:13I was like, Well, how's the best way I can serve others. And that
- 9:16became helping people take control their bodies, it was the
- 9:20summer of 2006 when we invented the perfect pushup.
- 9:25Stephanie Maas: Very interesting. You know, you often
- 9:27hear people say, hey, you know, you learn more from your
- 9:29failures and your successes and so forth. And I think that just
- 9:32speaks to that quite a bit.
- 9:34Alden Mills: I failed way more than I've succeeded. But if you
- 9:37ain't failing, you ain't trying.
- 9:39Stephanie Maas: Talk to me about this idea of a swim buddy.
- 9:41Alden Mills: A swim buddy is a Navy SEAL term, or the smallest
- 9:45team in SEAL team. You know, you never go in the water by
- 9:49yourself. There's always another person who even developed a
- 9:51stroke where you can look at each other. It's a modified
- 9:55sidestroke and then you can switch sides. If one side of
- 9:58your party gets more tired than the other But you never do
- 10:01anything without your swim buddy, the swim buddy concept,
- 10:04the real important element of the swim buddy is the the
- 10:08emotional component of the moments when you're not thinking
- 10:12you can make it. And the other ones putting their arm around
- 10:15you going, No, no, we got this. That's that's typically how SEAL
- 10:19teams started was, hey, we'll take the missions no one else
- 10:22wants, and we'll figure out how to get it done. And so you're
- 10:24constantly looking at the impossible. And having somebody
- 10:28there to find the possibilities in impossible is really
- 10:34critical. And no person is a fort. And yes, we get scared. I
- 10:40get scared and forgive every public speech I get.
- 10:43Stephanie Maas: Well, you did a really good job of hiding your
- 10:46nervousness and talking with me today. So I appreciate that.
- 10:48Alden Mills: Well, you know, that laser focus you're giving
- 10:51me right now in a terribly beautiful smile...terrified.
- 10:57Stephanie Maas: Yes, I could see that. Oh, my gosh. Okay, let's
- 11:02talk about mantras. Talk to me about some of the mantras when
- 11:05you need a little mental motivation.
- 11:07Alden Mills: Let's talk about the positivity gym. Um, first of
- 11:10all, I'm a visual learner, I think of everything and kind of
- 11:13visualize the thing, whatever that is. And so I have this idea
- 11:17that we all have a positivity gym. And if you think of it as
- 11:22positivity as a gym, it's actually a great metaphor.
- 11:25Because, you know, I'll stand on stage and ask people, Hey, who's
- 11:30done 23andme? Or some genetic testing like that? Lots of hands
- 11:33go up? Who got the positivity gene? Did you get it? You asked
- 11:38to God? And I can tell you're smiling. And they're like, no,
- 11:42nobody got it, because there's no screening for it. Because
- 11:44there's no gene that exists for it, or positivity comes down to
- 11:49us. It's up to us to drive that. So how do you do that, we got to
- 11:55go to the gym, we got to exercise, one of the key
- 11:57exercises in the positivity gym is a push pull exercise. So the
- 12:03push pole exercise is really what I call playing the opposite
- 12:08game, or in the opposite games means that the moment you got
- 12:11something negative that you decided to switch your focus on,
- 12:14you have to understand all of human nature, all of nature is
- 12:20designed to meet at homeostasis, which is a balance, which means
- 12:25for every negative there is a positive every time a failure
- 12:31occurred. Well, there's some positives to that failure. And
- 12:34the positive is, you know, like Thomas Edison, I learned 10,000
- 12:38ways not to make a light bulb. So you do the push pull again,
- 12:42another one is getting deeply curious about whatever the issue
- 12:48is, if it's with another person, and you're struggling, give me
- 12:53three ways that you can love that person. Now that person may
- 12:57have done something really bad, but you get to drive that kind
- 13:01of curiosity, it will flip a switch and force the brain to
- 13:05get off of whatever the negative thought is you're attaching to,
- 13:11and shift your focus to where that positivity is. Now, before
- 13:15I give you a third positivity gym example, I really needed to
- 13:19explain Focus. Focus is like a funnel, that funnels your energy
- 13:24into taking an action, we control it. And we all have a
- 13:28focus funnel. The key thing about dealing with any kind of
- 13:33negativity is it's up to us what we're deciding to take our focus
- 13:39model in funnel energy and do attach to that thought that's an
- 13:44either hurtful or helpful until we take our energy and attach to
- 13:49it. And we do it by using this focus funnel of ours. Now, give
- 13:54me a third positivity gym exercise. And that's really
- 13:59dealing with perspective. When you find yourself in a position.
- 14:05Where are my gosh, we you know, we failed again, look, look
- 14:08what's happened. That's the reason you keep a workout log.
- 14:13As you can see, over time, oh, look, I'm actually getting
- 14:18stronger, or I've lost weight or getting faster, whatever the
- 14:21metrics are that you're doing. But perspective is so powerful
- 14:26over that time period, if you can track your progress, no
- 14:30matter how slight it is, that is your fuel to always move
- 14:35forward. Your progress is your fuel for persistence.
- 14:39Stephanie Maas: And I really like that that fuel for
- 14:40persistence.
- 14:42Alden Mills: That's the name of the game, Stephanie. It's
- 14:43getting up and taking the next action. That's the whole point,
- 14:46not 10 actions from now just the next one. It's all you have to
- 14:49do.
- 14:50Stephanie Maas: These seem logical. You simplify them,
- 14:54which is great. People still don't do them. Why not?
- 14:57Alden Mills: Well, my very first season instructor from the Deep
- 15:01South. He walked with a limp because he was missing his left
- 15:06buttcheek, because it got blown off by a rocket propelled
- 15:08grenade, called instructor half-butt. You know, what my job
- 15:13is, is to create a conversation and here that's going to drive
- 15:16you to make a decision are what you're going to focus on, you're
- 15:20going to focus on the pain and train it, or you're going to
- 15:22focus on the pleasure that training can provide you. Now I
- 15:25know for a fact over 80% of you, you're going to focus on the
- 15:29pain, you know why? Because you're all focused on being a
- 15:32seal on a sunny day, your country, she don't need seals on
- 15:35sunny days, she needs them aren't scary days, when it's
- 15:38cold, and it's dark, and it's wet. And that crack over your
- 15:43head. Where that a thunder or somebody warning you did a bad
- 15:47you want to see on that day, you all want to be a seal on a sunny
- 15:51day. So the secret here is deciding what you got to focus
- 15:54on it in complicated. It's just hard. It's hard to lead yourself
- 16:00to decide what you're going to focus on. It ain't complicated.
- 16:04It's just hard. I think people get things way too complicated.
- 16:09And then they get overwhelmed and I can't do it. I don't have
- 16:12enough time for this. Forget about it. Every person that I
- 16:15coach, all about just giving them the confidence to take the
- 16:20next action. That's the only action that matters. It's this
- 16:24present moment, present moment. For instance, you and me being
- 16:28together, everything that I can give that can be helpful to you.
- 16:32It's this moment that matters. When people decide they can't do
- 16:37it. Most of the time, they've made a decision to focus on just
- 16:42the sunny day, and realize the moment and anything comes down
- 16:45to the Heart Day. Well, that's I'm not here for those days, I
- 16:49only want to sunny days, you know who doesn't want to be the
- 16:52head of sales on a sunny day, who doesn't want to be an
- 16:54entrepreneur on the sunny days. Those aren't the days however,
- 16:58that gives you the greatest growth. The days that give you
- 17:01the greatest growth are the days with the greatest friction,
- 17:04right struggle builds strength, that's the only way we grow. And
- 17:08until people flip the switch to realize, Hey, I gotta go to the
- 17:11gym. Right? The gym is a friction home, it's there to
- 17:17give you the resistance, metaphorically and literally, to
- 17:21build the muscle strength that you need to be able to overcome
- 17:26the obstacles. And then eventually, what I'm really
- 17:30after is training people to look at the obstacle, the
- 17:33celebration, because those are your opportunities. And when we
- 17:39start getting that now we've got an unstoppable mindset. Because
- 17:44every obstacle becomes an opportunity. Every problem is a
- 17:48possibility. The struggle builds the strength, the mindset is
- 17:52then bringing on. That's what we're after. But that's hard.
- 17:57That's hard to get people to embrace the idea that they need
- 18:02to do the hard things that they need to be comfortable being
- 18:06uncomfortable. And when we get people to make the switch to
- 18:11enjoy the struggle, well, then we've got the real opportunities
- 18:15for building success. I wouldn't go just willy nilly for
- 18:19everything.
- 18:21Stephanie Maas: Right.
- 18:22Alden Mills: We also need to recharge, putting yourself in
- 18:26areas of friction is exhausting. And you need the energy. And if
- 18:30you're out of balance on the physical side, because you think
- 18:33well, it's not that important that I get sleep or good
- 18:36nutrition, or exercise, which is what I call how you see sleep,
- 18:41eat and exercise in that order, then your physical platform
- 18:46isn't optimized, or the stamina, or the struggle, and the
- 18:50struggle will come from the mental emotional side. And from
- 18:54the spiritual side, you really need to be able to practice
- 18:57faith because the world has too many things coming at us. We
- 19:01can't handle all the things coming at us. And if you start
- 19:04to focus on all the negatives of everything that's out there,
- 19:08then you'll be so overwhelmed with fear that you'll never push
- 19:13yourself beyond your horizon of your potential. So you have to
- 19:16learn to practice faith. And I'm not here to tell you which faith
- 19:21of religious doctrine practice that's second definition in the
- 19:26dictionary. I'm after the first definition in the dictionary for
- 19:30faith in that is having 100% confidence in someone or
- 19:36something other than yourself. And when you have faith in
- 19:40someone else, then you can let go and when you're able to let
- 19:45go and only focus on the things that you can control and have
- 19:49faith that the others have your back or some higher power has
- 19:53your back and that you will deal with whatever comes down your
- 19:56way. Then you can walk through the deepest shadows was valleys
- 20:01of doubt. And you were like the way to your success.
- 20:05Stephanie Maas: You mentioned earlier in the call your mom
- 20:07being very influential in helping you decide that, hey, we
- 20:10get the doctor said this, I disagree, we're going to do
- 20:13things differently. Did you grow up with this strong sense of
- 20:17something bigger greater than yourself? Where did that come
- 20:19from?
- 20:20Alden Mills: Mom was definitely my first leadership coach, no
- 20:23doubt about it, Dad was close behind. He just had a different
- 20:26tact. And it happened through a series of, of challenges where I
- 20:33wanted to achieve something, but I kept falling short. And then I
- 20:37got to this point in every one of these challenges where I saw
- 20:42the opportunity, but I had to let go in give all of myself to
- 20:48whatever the challenge was, in the first challenge, it would
- 20:51have been rowing where my hands got so infected, and I had to
- 20:54tape them up and came down this one last big race, or this final
- 20:59seat as a sophomore in the pain was so overwhelming that all I
- 21:03could do was cry, because I couldn't let go the or I taped
- 21:07my heads and circles. When you're going through SEAL
- 21:13training, you get to this point where you're like, oh, my gosh,
- 21:15I could die right now. And I remember flipping the switch
- 21:19going, well, this is what I want to do. So they're going to have
- 21:22to kill me, because I'm not going to quit. And I don't think
- 21:24I was alone there. I think there are lots of guys they get there.
- 21:27You know, and I looked at bankruptcy three different
- 21:30times. With my business, you get to this point where you're like,
- 21:34there has to be another way I just am not going to go
- 21:38bankrupt. And you get to that point, three different times. I
- 21:42mean, could God we had 2009, which was some of the height of
- 21:49perfect push up years. The bank decides they want to call her
- 21:53loan in $15 million loan and I was personally guaranteed. I
- 21:58don't have $15 million house. Yeah, and tend to that. And they
- 22:03sent people out to value our home be like, well, how quickly
- 22:06can we liquidate things with wall wall, whoa, we're gonna
- 22:09figure out a way here. They wanted 30 days, I wanted 300.
- 22:13And they thought I was crazy. 293 days later, I pulled him
- 22:17back, I paid him back in full with interest. But that was a
- 22:20trust game. We got him to trust us. If you get a banker to trust
- 22:23you, you're doing something, right. So you practice this,
- 22:28this faith, practice these opportunities every time you
- 22:32keep pushing for something outside your grasp beyond your
- 22:37horizon of what you can see to where you believe. And I often
- 22:42talk about this horizon. And we're all the captains of our
- 22:46own ships. But we can't see that far. You know, you're a six foot
- 22:50tall person acting like Jesus standing on a dead calm day
- 22:54looking at the sea, you can only see two and a half 2.9 miles for
- 22:59the horizon drops off. But your goal is way past the horizon.
- 23:04And most people are like, they won't even dream there is like,
- 23:06well, I can only see you know, seeing is believing like No, no,
- 23:09it's the total opposite. You have to believe in first, that
- 23:13you can do something before you can see what you really want,
- 23:16which is way past that horizon. That goes back to practicing
- 23:19that faith, and you get yourself into that process. And over the
- 23:23years, it will help you cement your confidence in your
- 23:29capabilities. Great question, Stephanie.
- 23:32Stephanie Maas: So in the time we have remaining, just give me
- 23:34a quick kind of preview on your books, the training that you do
- 23:38the speaking that you do, because this has been really
- 23:41good. And I can see a lot of our folks saying, Hey, that was a
- 23:43great introduction. Where can I get more?
- 23:44Alden Mills: Well, I feel my highest use of helping others is
- 23:47helping them be unstoppable achieving something they're not
- 23:51sure they could do. I early on a catch myself to the word
- 23:55unstoppable because to be unstoppable means you've been
- 23:58stopped. You've been stuck. You can't be unstoppable. If you
- 24:02haven't been there. You gotta be there. Right? You need the
- 24:06struggle of being stuck, to get unstuck, to go from stop to
- 24:09unstoppable so I have two books they're called Be unstoppable.
- 24:13The essential actions to succeed in anything and unstoppable
- 24:17teams, four essential actions to high performance leadership. And
- 24:21I'll have a new book called unstoppable mindset, how to use
- 24:25what you have to get what you want. I'm all about the three
- 24:28levels of leadership leading yourself leading teams and then
- 24:32leading the cultures of your organization. And you can find
- 24:36me at Alden dash mills.com and I'm also the creator with a dear
- 24:40friend of mine have a free app called goal bud and it's a place
- 24:44where people can enter in their goals quickly form a goal team
- 24:48and create commitments to help each other stay on track to take
- 24:52the next action goal but that's where I hope to help 100 million
- 24:56people achieve goals and success.
- 24:58Stephanie Maas: This has been so awesome, thank you so much for
- 25:01your willingness to come and spend some time.
- 25:04Alden Mills: Thank you. And, you know, I just want to say, I'm
- 25:07really excited to come on this podcast. I love the messaging
- 25:10that you do for this podcast. More people need to hear and get
- 25:14motivated and inspired, that it's inside of them. It's their
- 25:17habit. They were built to be unstoppable. They just need
- 25:21somebody's I love it. Just remind people that unstoppable
- 25:24is a choice. That's their leadership decision. They get to
- 25:27decide every day, all they got to do is take one action, they
- 25:31can actually download in gold bug building their first gold
- 25:34buddy swim buddy team, and then creating a commitment to like,
- 25:38hey, let's do this. Just 15, 20 minutes, 30 minutes a day and
- 25:42watch how that will build their momentum.
- 25:44Stephanie Maas: Thank you.
- 25:45Alden Mills: Thank you. Keep caring, Stephanie. Go forth and
- 25:48be unstoppable.
- 25:50Stephanie Maas: Yes, sir. You got it.