Latest / SisterSmart Leadership / 1: “Why Am I Not Getting Promoted At Work?" Why it Took Me 10 Years to go from Director to VP
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- 0:00Jill Avey: It took me 10 years of trial and error for me to finally get promoted
- 0:03to VP in my career, and now I help women make that move in just one year.
- 0:07So if you've been struggling to get promoted to the VP level, you'll
- 0:11wanna tune in to hear are the seven pitfalls that you'll wanna avoid.
- 0:15I'll also share three shifts that you can get started on the right track today.
- 0:18So you'll wanna stay with me till the end.
- 0:21I'm Jill Avey, a career success coach, and this is Sister Smart Leadership, the
- 0:26show that explores how women can rise from director to vice president and beyond
- 0:31by fully leaning into their feminine energy as their biggest advantage.
- 0:35Let's get you one step closer to the recognition and promotion you deserve.
- 0:40It can be hard to figure all this out on your own.
- 0:42Your mentors don't have all the answers for you, and your manager doesn't either.
- 0:47Your boss might not even want you to move up if there's nowhere for you
- 0:50to go in your current organization, but thankfully it can be done.
- 0:55And you can work on your career specifically, especially when you have
- 0:58a coach to guide you so that you don't make the same mistakes that I've made.
- 1:02I've been helping women leaders get promoted for quite some time, and I've
- 1:05noticed that there's a few essential things that can set you up for success.
- 1:09So let's start with these.
- 1:10You need to have ambition to move up into the higher ranks.
- 1:13Maybe you've heard that inner voice that tells you, you have something
- 1:17special to give to the world.
- 1:19You know that you can make a difference with your talents and
- 1:22you're ready to work hard to get there.
- 1:24You've proven that already.
- 1:25You have the persistence and the grit to do what it takes
- 1:29to get to where you wanna go.
- 1:30Your sense of purpose tells you that you're made for something
- 1:34greater than you are today.
- 1:36It doesn't have to be solving poverty, but in your corner of the
- 1:38world, you want to make a difference.
- 1:41So the second thing that I've noticed is that you need to have a mission
- 1:45that gets you up in the morning.
- 1:46So you have this vision, something you know that you see for your company,
- 1:51your department, your industry.
- 1:54You want to make that vision a reality.
- 1:56And maybe that vision includes helping others like it does for many women.
- 2:00Maybe that's providing a healthy environment for employees to work.
- 2:03I know that was a big one for me.
- 2:05Or maybe you want to be a role model for young women and girls, or even the
- 2:09boys in your life so that they can see the value of women in the workplace.
- 2:14So whatever it is for you, it's something that inspires
- 2:17you even on your darkest days.
- 2:20Number three, you have a growth mindset.
- 2:23You know that to get somewhere new, you have to learn new things, and
- 2:26you're excited about learning because you need to keep growing all the time.
- 2:30It's just part of who you are.
- 2:32You're ready to do the introspection to develop your emotional self
- 2:35so that you can step into a new, bigger version of yourself.
- 2:39One that takes on the challenges and steps into the limelight more.
- 2:43Even if you don't feel like this, now you're ready to do
- 2:46what it takes to get there.
- 2:48Number four, you have support.
- 2:51One of the most important keys to making it to the top is to
- 2:54have a support system at home.
- 2:57Women who are leading at the top levels have worked out support systems
- 3:00so that they're not responsible for everything at work and at home.
- 3:04And this often means that their spouse or partner, is doing equal, if not more of
- 3:08the childcare, elder care, housekeeping, kid transitioning, all of that.
- 3:13This also might be hired out.
- 3:16And ideally you have the support of your manager.
- 3:18It's a bonus if you also have sponsors already established in your company.
- 3:23If you don't have that support and you can't cultivate this through
- 3:27developing your leadership skills, then you'll have to be ready to look
- 3:30somewhere else outside of your company.
- 3:32So this could be a great option for women who are overlooked because
- 3:36maybe sometimes you weren't the right fit at your company or your manager
- 3:39can't see your growth or potential.
- 3:41You know, It's sort of like when your parents still see you as a
- 3:44kid, even though you're grown.
- 3:46When that happens, you can be very successful by moving to another
- 3:49company where you're a better fit and it gives you that fresh start so that
- 3:53you're being seen as a person you are today instead of what you used to be.
- 3:57So in my case, when my boss got promoted to president and suggested to the CEO
- 4:02that I get promoted into the VP role, the CEO, who was a more traditional Taiwanese
- 4:07man, told him that women can't lead.
- 4:10Yep.
- 4:11You heard that right!
- 4:12And this was in the current millennium.
- 4:15It was frustrating, but eventually I did get the job because I had created
- 4:19these strong relationships with some sponsors who stood up for me and they
- 4:23convinced the CEO that I could lead and that I deserve the opportunity
- 4:29and that support system was really a critical piece for me in the end.
- 4:32So now that I'm a coach, I specialize in professional development, and
- 4:36I can see that if I'd had all the supports that I provide my clients
- 4:40now, I probably would've even been able to stay in my marketing career.
- 4:44You see, I didn't have a storybook career progression.
- 4:47I left marketing for many reasons, but now I realize that I may not have had
- 4:51to start all over to find what I was looking for and go through this lengthy
- 4:56process of starting something new.
- 4:58I'm glad I'm here today, but still, that's why I am so passionate about helping
- 5:02women in the middle of their careers.
- 5:04There are a lot of people out there that are promoting to just leave your career
- 5:08and become an entrepreneur, or sometimes what hit for me was the mission of a
- 5:13nonprofit called, and that can seem really enticing when you're feeling burned out.
- 5:17But I believe that for most it's better to find a new way to work
- 5:21that's more effective than it is to throw it all away and start fresh.
- 5:25Not everybody has the personality to be an entrepreneur, and it's expensive to
- 5:30learn a new craft in both time and money.
- 5:32The nonprofit world comes with its own downsides too.
- 5:35While the mission is strong, the pay is usually weak and the hours can be grueling
- 5:39because resources are so constrained.
- 5:41So now I work to help women stay in their leadership roles so they don't burn out
- 5:46and leave because there is a different way to work than most of us fall into.
- 5:51And the world needs women at the top.
- 5:53We need more gender balance so that our companies can do a better
- 5:57job and our society can do better.
- 5:59So now I can see all the mistakes that I've made along the way,
- 6:03which I helped women prevent.
- 6:05So the first mistake I made was not understanding my strengths.
- 6:09I didn't understand all my strengths, and I didn't know how to focus on them.
- 6:14Instead, I was focused on resolving my weaknesses and
- 6:17turning them into strengths.
- 6:19So this means that I didn't do a complete round of assessments, so I
- 6:23only did the Myers-Briggs, which helped me to understand my personality, but I
- 6:26didn't understand my strengths profile.
- 6:29I didn't understand my saboteurs and how they could hold me back.
- 6:32Also didn't know my values, and this meant that I didn't really understand
- 6:37what it was that I was bringing to the table when I walked into a room,
- 6:40I didn't have that clear vision of what it was that was special about me
- 6:45and what it was that I did differently than other people in my field.
- 6:49So I had a vague feeling about all this, but you know, you live in this skin all
- 6:54the time, you would think we know it better, but what I never did was take the
- 6:58time to just sit down and lay all that out so that I could be very clear on it.
- 7:02This would've allowed me to play to those strengths instead of
- 7:04always feeling insecure about the things that I didn't do well.
- 7:08So the second thing that I didn't do well was that I didn't even know about
- 7:11executive presence and how to develop it.
- 7:14I didn't understand executive presence until I became a coach, and
- 7:17now I've dived very deep into it, and I totally understand executive
- 7:21presence for women, but this was not my strength in my corporate career.
- 7:25As a director, I focused on my communication skills, which
- 7:27helped me to do some of this work.
- 7:30I did the Toastmasters program for a few years and was widely known
- 7:33for great presentation skills.
- 7:35I tried to be more assertive because that's what we always
- 7:37hear that women should do.
- 7:38They should be more assertive, but I didn't know how to do that without
- 7:41being off-putting, and so sometimes I came off too strong and I missed
- 7:45opportunities to collaborate better.
- 7:48I did a lot of other communications training as well, but I totally
- 7:50missed out on building gravitas since.
- 7:53So that's a piece that I could have really done a lot more of had I understood what
- 7:57gravitas was and how women can build gravitas to further their influence.
- 8:02So number three, I didn't develop my self-image as an executive, and now I
- 8:08understand that at each level you have to develop your own self-image so that
- 8:12you can rise up to be a bigger leader.
- 8:15In coaching, we call this new level, new devil.
- 8:18It's, this is the mindset work that you really need to do to
- 8:21be able to think of that bigger version of yourself at every step.
- 8:26So we should be making these steps all year, every year, always a
- 8:29bigger version of ourself and always pushing that envelope a little bit.
- 8:33So what resulted in this for me of not doing this work was
- 8:37a lot of imposter syndrome.
- 8:39I didn't feel confident in my work.
- 8:40So no matter how many achievements I made, and there were many, I mean, I launched
- 8:45many successful products and I was an ace at messaging and really getting into
- 8:49the hearts and souls of our consumers.
- 8:51But even after 25 years of doing this work, I didn't consider myself an expert.
- 8:56This is the definition of imposter syndrome, that you never feel quite
- 9:01good enough, even though there's data out there to tell you that you are.
- 9:06So fourth, I wasn't clear on what I actually wanted to focus on, what was
- 9:10really important for me to do well, and what I did not need to optimize.
- 9:15So Greg McEwen calls this essentialism in the book that he wrote on this topic.
- 9:19I didn't understand what was really important, and so what I
- 9:23did was I threw a hundred or 120% of my efforts into everything.
- 9:28And what this did was sometimes spread me too thin, and I often raised my hand even
- 9:32when I didn't even need to take on things.
- 9:34So it spread myself a little, even thinner as well.
- 9:37So this was a journey that I really went on so I, that I could figure out how to
- 9:41get focused on what I really needed to do.
- 9:44And number five.
- 9:46I didn't have a good enough emotional balance.
- 9:48I didn't understand how to work with my saboteurs, and that left me feeling
- 9:52like I wasn't good enough and I had this critical voice telling me that I
- 9:56needed to do better, which often, left me chasing perfectionism and people pleasing.
- 10:02And I felt that if I just worked harder, I could finally feel like I did enough.
- 10:08I thought that critical voice was actually helping me, but I didn't realize
- 10:11that it was actually holding me back.
- 10:14So now I understand saboteurs, and I've done some deep work with my own saboteurs.
- 10:18And as a coach, I understand how these saboteurs affect almost everything we do.
- 10:24And I clearly see how important this work is in order to withstand the
- 10:28ups and downs of corporate life.
- 10:30And this saboteur work has opened up a whole new level for me personally.
- 10:34It's been really great.
- 10:35And now I help women work through their saboteurs and to see them really quickly.
- 10:40So number six, I didn't focus enough on building trust with
- 10:43my peers and the senior leaders.
- 10:45So I was great at building trust with my team as many women are, but I was
- 10:50too personable with my relationships with my peers and senior leaders.
- 10:54So they liked me, but they still didn't trust me as much as
- 10:57they could have professionally.
- 10:59I left performance on the table because I didn't spend enough
- 11:01time building these relationships through that professional lens.
- 11:05And I didn't understand how to build trust with people who I was sometimes
- 11:10at odds with given our different roles.
- 11:12So instead, I kept my head down and I just focused on producing more and
- 11:16more great work thinking if I just kept producing more, I had more good stuff,
- 11:20that they would finally see the value of what I was doing and that they would be
- 11:24able to connect those dots on their own.
- 11:27What I needed to do was to spend more time out there talking about the work
- 11:31that I was doing and helping people to really understand how what I was
- 11:36doing was helping the company as a whole and their functions as well,
- 11:40and that would've opened up a whole new level of collaboration for us.
- 11:44And finally, number seven, I didn't lead with my feminine strengths.
- 11:48Instead, I watched my mentors and I read all the books about leadership but my
- 11:53mentors were men and the books, they were all written by men about a male leadership
- 11:58model that didn't totally fit me and the style that I brought to leadership.
- 12:03So now I know that this is where our real power comes from as women, where we
- 12:07can be our authentic selves, we can lead in a way that works really well for us.
- 12:12Our teams and our companies and women are consistently rated as being
- 12:17better leaders, yet many times we are told that we're not doing it right
- 12:21because we don't fit into that mold.
- 12:24Now, I help women understand their leadership style so that they can
- 12:27articulate what they're doing, and this helps the men that they work with
- 12:31to see the difference and respect it.
- 12:33They may be able to adopt some of their style, or they may not,
- 12:36but they can see why it works.
- 12:38So those are the seven things that I could have done a lot better in my career.
- 12:43And now I help women to do these things in much shorter time than it took
- 12:47me on the 10 years to figure it out.
- 12:50So if that's something you're interested in, I've got three shifts
- 12:53for you to get started with it today.
- 12:55First, know that there is help out there.
- 12:58There are coaches like me that can help you get there.
- 13:02And when I was doing all this, coaching wasn't even really a thing, so I didn't
- 13:05have the support that you can get.
- 13:07And now there's lots of coaches like me and my sister Smart programs, which
- 13:11focus on women leaders specifically.
- 13:13So the second shift that you can make is to take out your journal and write
- 13:17about what you want for your career.
- 13:19What does that quiet voice tell you?
- 13:22Everybody has that inner voice that's drowned out by all
- 13:25the busyness of the world.
- 13:26But if you stop and listen to that quiet inner voice in those fleeting
- 13:31moments, what does it tell you?
- 13:33What does it tell you that you're made of?
- 13:35How far can you really go?
- 13:37How much potential do you have?
- 13:39I had that quiet voice telling me that I could be an executive, that I
- 13:42could go all the way to the top to the upper levels because I had something
- 13:46special to give to the world, and I thought I could lead in a way that I
- 13:50wanted a role model for other people.
- 13:52Wanted to show people what leadership can do and the power of leadership using
- 13:56our feminine strengths and what that can do to pull people together and create
- 14:01better performance for our companies, but also have more sanity for people's lives.
- 14:06Number three, ask yourself why is it important for you
- 14:10to be all that you can be?
- 14:12Why should you fill your potential?
- 14:14Who benefits by that financially and emotionally?
- 14:18Who are you a role model for?
- 14:20So think a minute why leadership's important for you to pursue.
- 14:24Thank you so much for watching the first episode of Sister Smart Leadership.
- 14:28I'm really excited about this season, and I hope you'll join me
- 14:31for the whole series to learn about what you can do in your career.
- 14:34If you're watching the YouTube video, please leave me a comment and let me
- 14:37know what you thought of the first show.
- 14:39If you'd like to stay outta the traps that I found myself in, you're gonna
- 14:42wanna check out my private podcast where I go through the seven step
- 14:45process that I use with my clients to put them on their path to promotion.
- 14:50I'll also share my client success stories with you so you can hear from other women
- 14:54who've had the same ambitions as you, because I don't think you wanna wait 10
- 14:58years to have the influence, confidence, and the ability to create change that
- 15:02comes with leading at the top levels.
- 15:05And if you're a female leader who wants to make a bigger impact by leading
- 15:09at the higher levels in your career, subscribe either on YouTube or wherever
- 15:13you listen to your favorite podcast.
- 15:15I'm on a mission to help more women succeed in leadership, so
- 15:19our world gets the benefit of what women bring to leadership.
- 15:22And if that's aligned with you, I'd love to have you be part of this
- 15:25community and tune into more episodes on women's leadership that will
- 15:29support more success for us all.
- 15:32See you in the next episode.
- 15:33If you're ready to fully lean into your feminine leadership and get promoted
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- 15:42you'll get all the episodes to come and check out the recommended video here
- 15:46to see how women are rising up without playing by the old rules that built these
- 15:50male dominated industries and systems.