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Chuck in the Morning 9/28 H3: Monday Morning Quarterback with Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Morning's Monday Morning Quarterback with Hugh Millen. Brought to you
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  Speaker 2: Well, great morning to you all. Happy Monday.
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  Speaker 3: Chuck Powell, Anders Hurst, and Travis Moger with you. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: it's Monday morning quarterback time, so Hugh Millen joining.
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  Speaker 2: Us here shortly.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just start off by saying I know that
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  Speaker 3: there is a ton.
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  Speaker 2: I've started every hour with this here today.
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  Speaker 3: There are a ton of things to discuss here today,
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  Speaker 3: and we're just going to have to segment them and
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  Speaker 3: spread them out.
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  Speaker 2: Over the course of the week.
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  Speaker 3: I can't talk about five different monster topics all at once.
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  Speaker 3: So tomorrow we'll spend a little more time on Dan Wilson.
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  Speaker 3: On Wednesday, we're going to spend a little more time
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  Speaker 3: on the Huskies. On Thursday, we're going to preview the
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  Speaker 3: Kraken season. And then back to football on Friday. with
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  Speaker 3: Football Fridays. But for today, we're reacting mostly to the Seahawks' surprising, stunning, shocking,
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  Speaker 3: appalling loss to the Washington Commanders yesterday. 33-31 is the
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  Speaker 3: final score. And this is the stat that I pointed
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  Speaker 3: out a little bit earlier in the show, but I
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  Speaker 3: didn't have it word for word.
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  Speaker 2: This is from Sean Syed.
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  Speaker 3: The Seattle Seahawks had an 86th percentile offensive success rate yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: and an 89th percentile defensive success rate this is the
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  Speaker 3: only game lost when clearing the 85th percentile in success
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  Speaker 3: rate on both sides of the ball since 2022 which
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  Speaker 3: is what i meant by there were a million ways
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  Speaker 3: to win this game and one way to lose it
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  Speaker 3: and somehow we figured out the formula to.
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  Speaker 2: Lose this game yesterday to the Commanders.
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  Speaker 3: Joining us now is our QB1 chief analyst around these
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  Speaker 3: here parts, former NFL quarterback, former Huskies quarterback, Hugh Millen
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  Speaker 3: is with us here on Chuck in the Mornings.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Hugh.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, good morning. Good morning to you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: All right. I wasn't expecting to be talking about.
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  Speaker 2: A loss here today. Well, yeah, it's kind of a,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if a black Monday, you know, black
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  Speaker 2: Monday for Dan Wilson, at least a blue Monday. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you'd have told me and if we'd have been talking,
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  Speaker 2: let's say around the 4th of July, that the last
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  Speaker 2: Monday of September, we'd be talking about losing to the commanders,
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  Speaker 2: Washington losing to Minnesota and the Mariners are not in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs. You just said, Oh, that sounds like a,
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like a bad Monday. Here we are. You're right.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bad Monday. And the sun did rise. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the sun did rise this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, there's so much to discuss from this loss.
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  Speaker 2: Where does it begin with you? What's the top story here? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I think that what was evident is that and what
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks are going to have to get used to
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  Speaker 2: is they're going to get everybody's best shot. If you
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  Speaker 2: look at the third down conversion on third and eight,
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  Speaker 2: they throw a swing pass out in the first possession.
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  Speaker 2: And ball's tackled, and it's going to be– if you
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  Speaker 2: look at the commander's sideline, how they were up and animated,
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  Speaker 2: they were jumping. I would challenge you– they were just
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  Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship game a couple years ago. I
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  Speaker 2: would challenge you to find any spontaneous– uh, eruption, certainly
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  Speaker 2: in the first half. Um, and, and it just showed
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  Speaker 2: the emotion that, that the commanders played with a lot
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  Speaker 2: more emotion. It's just all over the tape. Um, and so,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, first things first, you better be ready, uh,
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  Speaker 2: to compete and you better be ready, uh, to be
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  Speaker 2: aware of what you're bringing. Uh, I mean, I was
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  Speaker 2: traded to the Cowboys the year after they won, uh,
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  Speaker 2: their first Super Bowl in a span of three out
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  Speaker 2: of four years. And the team you watch on tape
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  Speaker 2: during the week, and then you see the team that
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  Speaker 2: shows up on Sunday because you're the world champions, that's
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  Speaker 2: just going to be a factor. It's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a factor this Sunday with the Chargers trying to get
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  Speaker 2: their first win. They could get a lot of right.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a factor. If you keep winning,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be a factor throughout the season. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the Seahawks brought it the way they
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  Speaker 2: needed to bring it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people have been pointing out– I
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  Speaker 3: know you don't even follow social media.
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  Speaker 2: Good for you.
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  Speaker 3: What a wonderful human being you are for not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: But a lot of the turnover discussions that we had
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  Speaker 3: toward the end of the week, but– Your turnover statistic,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think, was taking into account that you'd go
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  Speaker 3: minus three against the commanders and direct result 21 points
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  Speaker 3: from those turnovers. Uh, and, and, and lose the game
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  Speaker 3: 33 to 31 and such a crushing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And, and look, the numbers are what the
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  Speaker 2: numbers are. And, and, uh, you know, when you, when you're,
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  Speaker 2: when you win by a three, I can get that
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  Speaker 2: to you coming out of the commercial break. Um, If
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  Speaker 2: you win the turnover battle by three, I know it's
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  Speaker 2: well into the 90% and maybe 95% win. And yet,
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  Speaker 2: the only thing I said is that if you go
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  Speaker 2: into a game of the idea, don't turn the ball over,
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  Speaker 2: don't turn the ball over, don't turn the ball over,
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  Speaker 2: that's all we have to do to win. Don't turn
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  Speaker 2: the ball over. Well, you're not going to make the
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  Speaker 2: plays that you need to win. And so turnovers are
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  Speaker 2: part of the game. Look at Matthew Stafford. He threw
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  Speaker 2: a pick six yesterday that, you know, by all accounts,
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  Speaker 2: you'd say when he was in high school, he wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have made that play. But it happens. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: that there was a recklessness. And maybe we can break
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  Speaker 2: down the real pivotal one here. But you had, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's always in the details, Chuck. The precision's in the details.
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  Speaker 2: And all of this, you know, on Price's first pitch, uh,
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  Speaker 2: his fumble, I mean, you're just running a stretch left. Okay. So,
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  Speaker 2: so you turn the ball over there. Um, look, let's
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  Speaker 2: start first things first. Price can't fumble the ball. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Hard stop. But you get a run through, through the
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  Speaker 2: a gap on the backside of a stretch. And typically
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  Speaker 2: what you're going to have, you don't see the left
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  Speaker 2: guard hinging, uh, to his backside, you would expect him
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  Speaker 2: to cut off the, the, what we used to call
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  Speaker 2: it this, the junior sale angle, which was junior sale
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  Speaker 2: would take all kinds of funky angles instead of going
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  Speaker 2: over the top of a play and staying at the
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  Speaker 2: linebacker level. He would, if he saw a gap, he
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  Speaker 2: would just shoot it. Well, we leave the a gap
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  Speaker 2: so wide open that the running back or the, the
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  Speaker 2: linebacker rather 52. He, he goes, he goes for, I'm
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  Speaker 2: flying in, and he's the one who causes the fumble.
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  Speaker 2: So if you have the right technique with the right guard,
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  Speaker 2: then you don't have that. On the interception, well, the
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  Speaker 2: first one that goes off the helmet, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I've been watching this position for over 50 years. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how you would– I still don't know how
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  Speaker 2: you avoid hitting the helmet, right? Yeah. But the center,
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  Speaker 2: they could have– done a double team with the left
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  Speaker 2: guard in the center and leave, um, uh, Charles cross
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  Speaker 2: as a, as the single guy out at left tackle,
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  Speaker 2: they chose to, to double team gray's able. They chose
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  Speaker 2: to double team in an odd front. They, they chose
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  Speaker 2: to have the left guard's able go out and double
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  Speaker 2: team with, with, uh, Charles cross. So that was firmed up,
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  Speaker 2: but that left the center, you know, one-on-one he gets
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  Speaker 2: walked back. And so now Darnold throws his helmet. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it, don't have the center get beat. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: don't do that scheme, but I don't know. I would
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  Speaker 2: really love to hear the argument. Somebody would say, blame
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  Speaker 2: that on Donald. I haven't heard anybody, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: they talk about the two interception, but let's, let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about the pick six.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Cause that was, that was really pivotal. And, and so the,
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks are going to fake the stretch to the
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  Speaker 2: right side. They're on the balls on the right hash.
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  Speaker 2: They're in a left formation that, with AJ Barner on
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  Speaker 2: the left side, what that does is that widens the
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  Speaker 2: defensive end way, way outside. And, and so now you can,
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  Speaker 2: when you run those nakeds, you're going to go a
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  Speaker 2: right-handed quarterback. You're going to run it to the left side. If,
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to do that, you're trying to get
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  Speaker 2: that defensive end to, to your left to come down
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  Speaker 2: the line. But again, The formation is so wide that
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  Speaker 2: even if he starts to step down, he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be way outside. And if you're coaching Emmanuel Wilson, and
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  Speaker 2: this is an important part of this, he goes straight sideways.
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  Speaker 2: And what that does is it tells the backside defensive
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  Speaker 2: end he doesn't have to worry about the cutback. If
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  Speaker 2: you coached Emmanuel Wilson, look, you got to go right
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  Speaker 2: hard off of Abe Lucas' hip and get up the field,
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  Speaker 2: act like you have the football. That would have, in
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  Speaker 2: all likelihood, that would have influenced the linebacker Kane Medrano.
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  Speaker 2: You got me? So Wilson is going parallel to the
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  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, five, six yards behind the line of
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  Speaker 2: scrimmage instead of attacking the line of scrimmage. because he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't attack the line of scrimmage, the linebacker falls back
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  Speaker 2: into the play because he doesn't attack the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 2: The defensive end on the other side says, well, I
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  Speaker 2: don't have any cutback. There's no way at that angle
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  Speaker 2: that he can turn and cut back and threaten me.
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  Speaker 2: And so and by the way, you know, you could
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  Speaker 2: have his his alignment a yard deeper and he'd have
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  Speaker 2: more of a downhill angle. That's what Kenneth Walker, Kenneth
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  Speaker 2: Walker's had at least a half yard, maybe close to
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  Speaker 2: a yard of further depth. So the details of how
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  Speaker 2: the defenders are reading the play, what are you trying
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  Speaker 2: to do? You're trying to fake the run play. You're
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  Speaker 2: trying to get influence. You're trying to have defenders move
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  Speaker 2: and get their eyes and their bodies to a certain spot.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you fake the stretch, and particularly for a
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  Speaker 2: right-handed quarterback, left-handed, coming out to his left side. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the other thing is, what is A.J.
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  Speaker 3: Barner?
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  Speaker 2: He's running at what's called a down flat. That's what
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  Speaker 2: football coaches, if you're in a football convention, he's running
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  Speaker 2: down flat. He's blocking down. He's tied in on the
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  Speaker 2: left side. He's going to block down towards the middle. Block, block, block,
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  Speaker 2: block down towards the middle and then run back out
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  Speaker 2: to the flat. There's a big space in there for
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  Speaker 2: him to go down and then break out to the flat.
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  Speaker 2: And he has such a good feel. It was so
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  Speaker 2: out of character for him But he stops running. He
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  Speaker 2: just stops. He had a very poor sense of how
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  Speaker 2: the zone was developing. If he had just kept going
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  Speaker 2: out and running in parallel with Sam Darnold, then there
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  Speaker 2: would have been easy completion. And Darnold, for his part,
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  Speaker 2: the way they played a two deep shell, a cover
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  Speaker 2: two shell, he could have just thrown it way out
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  Speaker 2: there to cup on the corner just And had he
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  Speaker 2: had his eyes up, but that's a big ask. That's
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  Speaker 2: a big ask. I'm not saying he couldn't ever do it,
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  Speaker 2: but that's a big ask. But the main thing is
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  Speaker 2: you got to tell Emmanuel Wilson, you got to attack
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  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. You got to tell A.J. Barner,
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  Speaker 2: your route is a down flat, not just a down,
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  Speaker 2: not just down and stop. It's down and then run
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  Speaker 2: back out. run down into the, like towards the center
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  Speaker 2: and then back out to the flat. Don't stop. And,
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  Speaker 2: and then, and then Darnold, that was second and 15.
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  Speaker 2: I understand his, his need to get a complete, but he,
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  Speaker 2: he could see the defenders right there, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: dirt the ball, Sam, just dirt it. Just so, so
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  Speaker 2: what do you see? I mean, it was, he blocked.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well, he could see that he, he could
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  Speaker 2: see that the, that the AJ Barner was covered by the,
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  Speaker 2: by the guy because he stopped running.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But he most certainly could not see the last guy.
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  Speaker 2: But he just, he runs down and he actually stops.
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  Speaker 2: The ball was snapped on the right hash. He goes
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  Speaker 2: all the way down from his formation to the far side.
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  Speaker 2: He does his big down block. And again, he's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to retreat back out to the flat. he stops and
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  Speaker 2: he's standing on the right side of the hash mark.
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  Speaker 2: That's how far in football we say that if you expand,
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  Speaker 2: you move away from the football. If you go towards
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  Speaker 2: the football, you reduce. He reduced all the way down
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  Speaker 2: and stopped on the opposite side of the hash mark.
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  Speaker 2: And that allowed the line, had he been still coming
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  Speaker 2: back out, that linebacker who made the interception would have
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  Speaker 2: never got under the plate because there would have been
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  Speaker 2: a moving target towards Darnold's left. And so this is
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  Speaker 2: the anatomy of a play that loses a game. And
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  Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson, I don't know if he was lazy or
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  Speaker 2: wasn't taught the detail. I mean, when I was with
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos, Alex Gibbs was, You can Google him. I
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  Speaker 2: guess a lot of people don't know. You know Chuck
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  Speaker 2: because you've been around ball. He's the godfather of the stretch, man.
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  Speaker 2: He'd install that stuff, and Mike Shanahan was sitting in
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  Speaker 2: the far back of the room, and he'd just stay quiet.
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  Speaker 2: And Alex Gibbs, he'd have a laser pointer. He'd tell everybody,
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  Speaker 2: this is what you do. This is the detail. I
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  Speaker 2: remember him putting a laser pointer on John Elway, and
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  Speaker 2: he goes, seven, quarterback, carry out your fake. You know,
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  Speaker 2: like like everybody has a job and and and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the guys around Sam Darnold didn't do their job right.
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  Speaker 2: And then but you know, you got the keys to
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  Speaker 2: the franchise, dude. You still have to in that that instant.
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  Speaker 2: you know recognize the peril right and so so in
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  Speaker 2: any event yeah i like the way you put that
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  Speaker 2: the anatomy of a game losing.
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  Speaker 3: Play right there you know all of the things that
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  Speaker 3: go into that one moment not to mention like not
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  Speaker 3: making the tackle um which it looked like he had
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  Speaker 3: madrano dead to rights.
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  Speaker 2: And there was another there was another uh.
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  Speaker 3: Seahawk player that had a chance at tackling him they
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  Speaker 3: don't get him down you hold him to field goal
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  Speaker 3: you're down only six and Then that amazing drive that
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  Speaker 3: you put together wins you the football game and doesn't
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  Speaker 3: just cut it to a one-square game.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you might not get that amazing drive because they'd
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  Speaker 2: be down. They'd play differently. They'd be up six instead
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  Speaker 2: of ten. But to your point, yes, you've got a
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  Speaker 2: great chance with Seattle's defense to hold it to a
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  Speaker 2: field goal for sure. He's a good enough athlete. He
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  Speaker 2: overran it. He did exactly what Matthew Stafford did. Run
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  Speaker 2: into his left, he overran, and he allowed the defender
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  Speaker 2: to cut back on him. And so, yeah, yeah, just
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  Speaker 2: in that regard, it wasn't Seattle's day, but they have
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  Speaker 2: to hone up the details. The precision's always in the details. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: Is this the time to ask about Sam's overall day,
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  Speaker 3: what you saw from him?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we got about four minutes left in this segment.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to ask you at some point, but
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  Speaker 3: maybe this is the time to just get your assessment
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  Speaker 3: of His first full game as the Seahawks quarterback this year.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I thought the rest of it was fantastic. I
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  Speaker 2: think it was hard to be the quarterback for the Seahawks. Again,
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  Speaker 2: the pocket was usually dirty. He had to move around.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Abe Lucas didn't play well. There was always somebody,
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  Speaker 2: you know, chatter around him. Um, but you know, he had,
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  Speaker 2: there was a point where Brian Flores said, nice play calling.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when he got more aggressive on, on the play
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  Speaker 2: calling and you know, you hit the dig to Jack, um, JSN, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the deep in route. Um, he had one off play
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  Speaker 2: action where he goes five step back and, and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: And it turns around, it's a box of coat hangers. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he had had his back to the defense.
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  Speaker 2: He had a couple of those where he knifes it in.
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  Speaker 2: He throws the deep out routes to JSN when they
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  Speaker 2: were in what's called a two-man defense where the corner
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  Speaker 2: is underneath, but he has a safety over the top,
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  Speaker 2: which means he can play everything underneath. He doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: to worry about the deep stuff. And Sam just smoked
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  Speaker 2: those deep out routes into a mailbox and to the outside. Um,
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  Speaker 2: he had a nice run on first, uh, to get
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  Speaker 2: a first down on the third and five. Um, I,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that he played extremely, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the four touchdowns, um, he had, he had a check
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  Speaker 2: down variety, the, uh, the, the post, excuse me, the
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  Speaker 2: post to JSN, beautiful concept with a double post with, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Elijah Royal taking out the safety. So he gets the
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  Speaker 2: one-on-one to the outside, uh, And there was a little
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  Speaker 2: nod and he just put the ball in a, in
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  Speaker 2: a perfect spot. Excuse me. That was, I'm choked up
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  Speaker 2: at how he played. Really emotional. Really emotional moment for you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of gets me teary eyed on some of these,
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  Speaker 2: these touchdown throws that he was having, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: which I thought that was. Take your time. Incidental. Work
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  Speaker 2: through it. It's okay. We're here.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Me and Rick Riz from yesterday. Uh, That was
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the play that he missed in the Super Bowl at
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: the end of the second quarter. The post route to
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: his left, one-on-one, JSN, that Super Bowl post was a
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: hell of a lot more open than yesterday. He gets
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the touchdown yesterday. I think that he played really well.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: He had one interception that the team has got to
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: be better on, most especially him, but But what were
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: his final now? How many yards did he throw? 379. Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Not bad. Yeah. And there's no way. Without a running game.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: That's another part of it. Without the running game. And
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: there's no part of you that's going to blame the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: first interception on him, are you? I mean, that's just
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the vicissitudes of football, right? Like, that's just going to
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: happen from time to time. That's like, you know, a
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: roulette wheel is going to get doubled zero. eventually you
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: roll the ball around enough so he his came up
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: double zero and and uh but but you know okay
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: so one mistake yeah you know it's ball yeah it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: ball uh all.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Right well let's talk about that running game next Hugh
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Millen is with us it's Monday morning quarterback Seahawks somehow
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: lost to the Washington Commanders yesterday on the road in
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: the rain 33-31 the final score, but got to get
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Hugh's thoughts on the lack of running game and the
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: decision to bench Jadarian Price after his second fumble of
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: the season early in that contest.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Monday Morning Quarterback with Chuck in
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the Morning and Hugh Millen. Brought to you by Muckleshoot
• 20:05
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• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3, KJR.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I love this selection. That's the NFL film's a little kick.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Great morning to you all. Yes, we are responding to
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: a bunch of crap here in the Seattle sports scene.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Was not a great weekend, but nonetheless, maybe there's some
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: lessons to be learned here to make us stronger in
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: the future. Welcome into this Monday Morning Quarterback Edition with
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Hugh Millen.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: My name is Chuck Powell. Anders Hurst is here.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Travis Moger as well, playing all of your NFL film's
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: greatest hits. Joining us, rejoining us is our QB1. Hugh
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Mellon's breaking it all down for us. Let's talk about
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: that running game that was non-existent. And let's just begin, though,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: with the topic at hand, and that is.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, Mike McDonald... benched.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Jadarian price for fumbling for the second time in three
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: games and even though the running game hugh never did
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: get going i mean he stuck to his guns for
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: a good two plus quarters uh without us seeing jadarian
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: price hit the field again what did you think of
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: that decision by the head coach yeah hey chuck um
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: i i said in the break i'm gonna um just
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: clean up the house uh get the house cleaning because
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: i i promised on the last segment that i'd give
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: you the the numbers on the turnovers, and then we'll.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Get to Jedi and Price.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Is that okay?
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: So in the last five years, there's 1,424 football games.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: You're going to be at a minus three on 11.4%,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: exactly minus three, by the way, 11.4% of the games.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: And then of those, so that's 162 out of 1424.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Of those, there's only 13 wins out of 162 times.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So that's 8%. So it's a rarity. 11.4% of the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: time you're going to be in that game. And then
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: if you happen to find yourself in that, you're only
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: going to win 8% of the time. So anyway, Jadarian Price. Yeah,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I absolutely think... I wouldn't have been surprised if they
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: benched him for longer. Um, you just, you have to,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: you have to send the message now. Uh, I mean,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: it is better to have died a small boy than
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: to turn the ball over twice. And that's what he
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: was facing. And, um, that's, that's not my line, by
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the way. I think that's new Rockne or something. Um,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: maybe we can get Anders on that. You with me?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, But, Anders, if you could say, who did
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: that quote? I'm looking now. I think, I don't know,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: maybe it's Frank Leahy. I think it was a Notre
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Dame coach. At any rate, yeah, here you've got a guy.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker went four years, didn't lose a fumble. John Heisman,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: by the way. John Heisman, okay. Never heard of him. Yeah, yeah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Uh, maybe that, uh, make a statue or, uh,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. Yeah. But, um, I, I
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: looking at him, uh, he was, he was, uh, number
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: three in the draft cast for most fumble highest fumble rate.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And this needs to be nipped in the bud now
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: can't happen. And, and so, uh, He's your guy from
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: an explosive standpoint, although yesterday on outside zone they were
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: eight attempts, 11 yards. That's supposed to be your bread
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: and butter. So this is just not Seahawks football yesterday whatsoever.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Of the first and 10, they had 14 rushes for
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: 34 yards. But there was, I think, an 11-yarder and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: maybe a 7-yarder. Nine of the 14 rushes were for
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: three yards or less. Eight of the 14 were for
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: one yard or less. Think of that. First and 10,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: we say, okay, let's just, let's try and get something established.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Over half the time, they were one yard or less.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: And it didn't matter the scheme when they tried to
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: do the zone blocking. Inside zone, one attempt. That did
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: get the seven yards. They did. Evidently didn't go back
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: to that, but then the counters, one attempt, power, pull
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: that backside guard. I mean, there's a lot of teams
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: that live on power, even at this level. Jim Harbaugh,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: when things are rolling, you know, nine yards on power
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: plays combined. So, yeah, Price is the guy. It's a problem.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: For now, until he gets this, there's two problems with him.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Hanging on to the football, and then what is he
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: doing on the inside runs? And for now, it's going
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: to be something to watch because Kenneth Walker, you can say, well,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: you had to let him go because you had to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: pay Devin Witherspoon, you had to pay JSN, you had
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: to pay Leonard Williams. You didn't have to pay Rasheed Shaheed.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: And for me, I will spend this entire year watching
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Rashid Shahid and thinking, is he worth $ 17 million when
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, he could have given him $ 14 million? And,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: you know, we'll see. I mean, that was not, you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I mentioned it's not Seahawk football. How about the kickoff returns?
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: The commanders on six kickoff returns, their starting field position, 35%.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: yard line actually 35.3 how's that compared to last year
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the entire season counting all the playoffs 24.99 essentially every
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: you when you kicked off the opponent started first and
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: 10 at their 25 yesterday was beyond the 35 uh
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: michael dixon very uncharacteristic poor punt. Uh, you know, I
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: mentioned Shahid first big boom punt. I, I caught it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I froze the tape. There wasn't anybody within 15 yards.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, maybe this is going to be one
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: of those out, kick the coverage deals. But you know, he,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: he promptly runs over and he runs right into Pritchett,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Pritchett, like literally runs into his own guy. Like
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: it just Mike McDonald, all of this tape is just
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: going to go, wow. For one day, we did not
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: play like the Seahawks.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Special teams couldn't run the football. All sorts of things. Yeah. Yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry you asked me about the the the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: running game. To me, it's OK. You only ran the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: ball 28 percent of the time. You had no assertion
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: on first down, as I mentioned. There's no explosives.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: And.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: And so Mike McDonald, I'm glad it was a long flight, honestly.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I'm glad that was three hours, that everybody had to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: sit and think about, okay, what does this mean? You know, like,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: let's get this fixed now. Now, I'm going to take
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a deep breath. I think I'm going to speak for,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: which I shouldn't, but I'm going to speak for the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Seattle area fans. We were told with the Mariners it's
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: too early. We're told with the Huskies when they didn't
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: look good against Washington State, Utah State, you know, oh,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: it's OK. You know, we're just finding ourselves. So I
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: think we're a little bit like, hang on any any
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: sign of early trouble. Now, the Seahawks are not in
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: that category. They deserve much more of a benefit of
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the doubt. Mike McDonald, like they deserve the benefit of
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the doubt, just like they turned around after Tampa Bay
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: last year, that that they're going to come out and
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: they're going to. they're going to both play with more
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: emotion and play with better execution. But there's no question
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: that Mike McDonald looked at that and said, that is nothing.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: of how I want my football team to look. Yeah, yeah,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Hugh Millen is with us, our quarterback QB1 analyst here
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: on a Monday morning quarterback session. A lot more to discuss,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: including what Marcus Mariota did on the other side of
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: the ball to the Seahawks defense.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: To the Monday Morning Quarterback with Chuck in the Morning
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and Hugh Millen. Brought to you by Muckleshoot Bingo and
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: by the Evergreen Council on Problem Gambling on Sports Radio
• 29:06
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• 29:18
  Speaker 2: All right, it's Monday Morning Quarterback.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: And speaking of the quarterbacks, more on Sam Darnold coming
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: up in our 9 o'clock hour. I'll also save Marcus
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Mariota for the 9 o'clock hour as well as we
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: roll through here on this Monday with our QB1, Hugh Millen.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: A lot to discuss from yesterday's 33-31 loss to the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Washington Commanders. And despite all that went wrong, all the
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: uncharacteristic Seahawk play, no running game, minus three turnover ratio, you.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Still had a time.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: And a chance to still pull this game out in
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: the end a couple of times, several times, Hugh. And
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: usually when teams face third and long, we're just expecting
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: to get the ball back. That's how much we think
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: of Mike McDonald and his defense. And two different third
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: down conversions for the Washington Commanders that seemed so unlikely
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: at the time.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the first one, the third and nine, you stop
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the run on the first down. They tried to go
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: a boot. You know, you defend it great. You don't
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: go for the run. You get up in Mario's face.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: He chucks it to the sideline. Right, Chuck? Yeah, thanks, man.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Can you do that? Yeah. A lot of synonyms for– Verb, you. Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: A lot of synonyms for– I don't know, bro. Chuck. But–
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: So then third and nine and the– this is one
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: of the possible– this is just me theorizing. Look, I'll
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: take it to my grave. Yes, 25 years from now
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: you can say, hey, remember that game when the Seahawks
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: lost to the Commanders? Oh, you mean the one that
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: if Julian Love would have been playing, they would have won? Yeah.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: You will not unseat me from that. I can't prove it.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: It can't be falsified either. But it's just an opinion
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I have. And one of the things is Seattle showed
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: that they showed their intention early, possibly. You know, they
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: were not the normal disguise that allowed Mario to look.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: It's not a big it was such an obvious cover
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: zero casino look with everybody up at the line of
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: scrimmage initially eight, but then seven. they got into that
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: look early. And so I don't think Mike McDonald's probably
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: happy with the timing of how, of how that, and so,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: but it's easy parameters for, you know, to, to sit
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: here and say, wow, Mark, Marcus Mariota, what a, what
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: a veteran stud. I mean, come on. You know, when
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: in college at 20, we went, I would go on
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: an entirety game and, and run the entire game from
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. Like, given a check, like, you
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: got two or three plays to get to, and quarterbacks,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: you're given the parameters. You know, if this, then that, right?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: The sun comes up, the rooster crows, you eat breakfast.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: If they're in this front, this is what we do.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And so, now, the way they had it, there's nobody
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: at the linebacker level, Chuck Anders. And so, Drake Thomas...
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: He's the edge guy. Now, they had a little weak side,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: a little G pop with the guard popping out and
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: the tackle blocking down, a little bit of a pin there.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: But when Thomas takes on that block from the guard,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: he has got to keep his outside shoulder free, period,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: end of story. He's got to close it. with his
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: inside shoulder and keep his outside shoulder free and not
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: let the running back outside, period. Can't happen. It's a
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: shame because I thought he played a pretty good game,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: but then that moment. What's that? Yeah, hell of a game.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: A week ago, I was lauding Witherspoon and Julian Love.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: They have elite players making elite type of reactions and
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: taking the angles and what have you. And then you
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: just watch, uh, with AJ Finley, uh, you know, it's just,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: you know, God bless him. I mean, you know, both
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: him and Rodney Thomas, they were on the street. They
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: were literally on the street because when they got cut,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: they got a, could have signed with anybody. And so
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: just a couple weeks ago, so you're playing with the
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: JV safeties, and they were just slow in reaction where
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: they were and what have you. At any event, yes,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas, when you watch the tape, he's like, okay,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: the only guy who's seeing things fast for a minute,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: even Eamon Warriors is still kind of working himself back
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: into shape. You know, people who poo-pooed the injury during
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: the camp didn't make any sense because the guy's coming
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: into his second year. He needs those reps in preparation. Yeah.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And and so, you know, he'll make a big impact, but,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: you know, he's not feeling the game yet. And Drake
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Thomas was the guy that was, you know, making those plays.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: And yet at that critical time. In that defense, he
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: just has to turn the ball back inside. Yeah, and
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: then he.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Still had a chance third and seven from there, from
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: the 44. And I know there was very little time,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: but you're only down two at that point. And then
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: the Mariota keeper on the same right side for 10
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: yards and game over. Yeah, and this is not the
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: first time every year I do a PSA. Here's my
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: public service announcement. That play was not an RPO. Please, people,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: if you want to sound like you know football, learn this.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: RPO is a run pass option that is called where
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: the offensive line and the running backs are running a run.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Then you have a short pass concept by the receivers.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: They are acting as if the play is a pass play.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: And you say, well, can't you get linemen downfield? Yes,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: that's why the ball's got to come out quick. And
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: usually RPOs are bubble screens. Occasionally they're short passes down
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: the field. But the run pass option part of that,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: is that you're either going to give the ball. You
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: could be Tom Brady at age 50, and you can
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: run pass option. There are so many people who think
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: this involves the quarterback running. No, that is a read-keep.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: That is totally different terminology. So let's please not call
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: this RPO. What that was is just a read-keep off
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: of the inside zone, just like he was doing as
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: a freshman at Oregon. He built a Heisman Trophy on
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: that keep. And he's looking at Demarcus Lawrence. And think
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: of Demarcus Lawrence when, you know, coach quarterbacks, you'd say
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: you watch that end and think of his inside hip
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: as like a door hinge. And his outside hip is
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: like the doorknob. If that doorknob closes with his left,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: his inside hip, as a hinge that's when you keep
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: the ball and go and demarcus lawrence gave him the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: brightest green light to keep the ball and and so
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: on third and seven there demarcus lawrence you have to
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: surf technique you have to keep your hips and shoulders
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: parallel to the line of scrimmage hold it hold it
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: hold it you got everybody else to stop the run
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: on third and seven You cannot hinge your inside hip
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: and close that play and give the keep key to
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota. No, it had nothing to do with RPO.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: It's not RPO. It's a read keep. And so here
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: you had two different instances, two different schemes, ideas, but
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: both Drake Thomas and Demarcus Lawrence let the The ball
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: get outside of him when it can't happen. And then, oh,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: by the way, A.J. Finley, bad angle, slow to react.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I promise you, if Julian Love would have been on
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: that field, he would have come up and smacked Marcus
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Mariota for no more than a four-yard gain. I know
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: because I've been watching him for too long. And so, yeah,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: so that's the anatomy. You know, those third down– Did
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: you ever think that Seattle wouldn't get the ball back? No,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I was just going to say that.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Those are just plays that we've come to expect that
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: this team makes, that this defense makes.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: On both occasions, I'm like, all right, well, how much
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: time are we going to have when we get the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: ball back? And yet they execute.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Twice and two different sets of downs, and suddenly it's like.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, this game's over. We're not going to win.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Crazy. Yeah, Demarcus Lawrence, he had a couple times last
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: year where he lost contain in critical times, the 49er
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: game in week one on the touchdown pass. And yet he,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship game, made one of the most
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: instinctive football plays I've ever seen in 50-plus years when
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: he peeled instead of rushing, when he just felt like
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: this doesn't look right with the running back and Julian
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Love got too far up the field. And he made
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: a play off script to take into account that julian
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: love had missed the peel and here i'm i'm praising
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and lauding julian love and now i'm saying that it
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: had a potential to be a game losing but but
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: lawrence you know he you manage his snaps he had
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: 45 yesterday um anders what's seven well it'd be about
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: he averaged about 37 per game last year is 45 yesterday.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: So he's older, you know, the defensive line's older. And
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: so we, we got to watch their, their reps and, and,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you know, they've got their Super Bowl rings now. So,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: you know. We've got to make sure that our effort
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and our focus is there. But that was a big-time breakdown,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: big-time breakdown. Hugh Millen is with us. Seahawks lose their first.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Game of the year, the first game in a long,
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: long time, 33-31, the final score to the Washington Commanders.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: We've got another hour of Monday Morning Quarterback coming your.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Way, so we'll roll it in.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: We've got a lot of other things to talk about
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: and discuss from this loss.
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