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Patriots Unfiltered 2/1: Senior Bowl Standouts, NFL Draft Talk, Coaching Staff Updates · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: at Jill's Stadium, and the search for staff continues. But
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  Speaker 1: I think we're sixty six percent of the way there
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  Speaker 1: and probably one hundred percent of the way there if
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  Speaker 1: all the reports are accurate. Uh, in terms of the coordinators.
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  Speaker 1: So we have reports, no, well, we've got DeMarcus Covington, yes,
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  Speaker 1: pretty much confirmed. We got Jerry Springer affirm for.
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  Speaker 4: The Jerry Jerry, Jared, Jeremy Jeremy and Jerry.
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  Speaker 5: Is that is true that is true.
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  Speaker 1: So you are the special teams coordinator. Isn't that how
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Springer does it? Correct?
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  Speaker 4: That's that's.
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  Speaker 7: You're the father different Okay, Jerry was just fights okay,
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  Speaker 7: all right?
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  Speaker 1: And Jeremy Springer special teams coordinator. And it looks like
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  Speaker 1: Nick Kayley. It seems that like everybody's saying it, like,
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  Speaker 1: so it must be out there that you know, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not confirmed, not official, but it looks like Nick Kayley,
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  Speaker 1: former tight ends coach here, current tight ends coach with
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  Speaker 1: the Rams the ROMs.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and some some speculation to just with how Luke
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  Speaker 5: gets he might fit into this because he worked with
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  Speaker 5: with Kaylee back in college. So there's maybe I've seen
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  Speaker 5: I think Mark Dangels was speculating that maybe, you know,
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  Speaker 5: would make sense to have a passing game coordinator.
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  Speaker 4: Imagine that that would be pretty fun.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and that's the other thing.
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  Speaker 4: The passing game.
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  Speaker 1: I guess let's assume you're going to have a new quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Who's the quarterback coach? That's it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if one of those guys, that's what I would
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  Speaker 4: be interested. If one of those guys has worked with quarterbacks, right,
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  Speaker 4: you know, can GETSI be the quarterbacks coach under I'd
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  Speaker 4: be interested in something.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there is a lot of hand ringing. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, it's Deuce, it's Alex, it's Paul, it's me.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of hand ringing about the youth and
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  Speaker 1: inexperience of the staff so far, and it's justified.
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  Speaker 4: We have a forty right now.
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  Speaker 1: You forget about Kayley would yeah, barely, Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: forget about the age, which you know is a factor
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  Speaker 1: only because of the experience. You know, none of these
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  Speaker 1: guys have done what they are going to do. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: for the Patriots, right, No, right, and you've got potentially
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  Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. You know, it's it's it could be
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  Speaker 1: an issue. It could be an issue, or it could
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  Speaker 1: be great.
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  Speaker 4: But Freddie callin off twenty four season already.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not. But it's just something to think about,
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  Speaker 1: like the lack of experience that you know, we're going
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  Speaker 1: into the season with, and so I think it would
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  Speaker 1: behoove them to hire a couple advisors, you know, guys
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  Speaker 1: that have been in the league for a while seen
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  Speaker 1: it all just to you know, have to be a
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  Speaker 1: shoulder to lean on.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I like Mike's theory on Getzi, just because
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  Speaker 4: he at least has done it, and I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how good he is at it. I know it didn't
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  Speaker 4: work great in Chicago, but at least he has some
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  Speaker 4: experience running an offense, calling plays, working with a quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: If he's part of the staff, I think I feel
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  Speaker 4: a little better.
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  Speaker 1: Of especially a lot of people people, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: the theory that the theory of getting justin fields.
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  Speaker 4: But I'd be interested.
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  Speaker 1: But they didn't like him in Chicago?
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  Speaker 8: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Would he be a good Jets or a bad Jets? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: They didn't. Well, he was obviously the fall guy they
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  Speaker 4: didn't like. They didn't like his work in Chicago. He
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  Speaker 4: lost his job, right he was.
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  Speaker 5: He was one of the Senior Bowl coaches last year too.
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  Speaker 4: He's miked up. So now just good guy, good way
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  Speaker 4: about him?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I kind of you know, I just thought
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  Speaker 5: it seems like a guy, seems like somebody'd like to
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  Speaker 5: have around.
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  Speaker 1: So who are the who are the shoulders to lean
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  Speaker 1: on for girod Mayo, for the offensive coordinator who's never
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  Speaker 1: done it? For the DC who's never done it? You know?
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  Speaker 9: How?
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  Speaker 4: And how much of a leash does this. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know leash, but you know, how much time do they have,
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  Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: I like Jromeo is certainly like he's got a chance
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  Speaker 5: to build his team and everything. But you know, right
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  Speaker 5: now this is shaping up to be We're going to
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  Speaker 5: be a young coaching staff and a young team and
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  Speaker 5: we're gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Have to all figure it out together.
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  Speaker 1: If they show competence, if things are buttoned up, if
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  Speaker 1: it seems to be organized, if the players under stand
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  Speaker 1: what they're being told and it makes sense, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you give him three years anyway. If things are just
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  Speaker 1: a hot mess, then you got you probably need to
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  Speaker 1: cut the cord earlier. But you know that I think
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  Speaker 1: takes care of itself by what it actually happens. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think you go into it and say it's three
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  Speaker 1: years no matter what.
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  Speaker 5: Were you won Felger Mass yesterday, I was okay, I
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  Speaker 5: tuned into like five oh five, but I was in
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  Speaker 5: the middle of Felger just like the darkest of times
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  Speaker 5: for the So.
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  Speaker 4: This is actually funny. So I always tell you guys,
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  Speaker 4: like how the emails go in the morning, And evidently
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  Speaker 4: Mike woke up Wednesday morning and just had an epiphany
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  Speaker 4: that wow, they really are like not really good and
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  Speaker 4: they're yeah, sounded like they're far away, right. It was
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  Speaker 4: amazing and they were follow thirteen and it's four years
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  Speaker 4: of no offense, Like we will like started on them,
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  Speaker 4: all three of us, Jim, Murray, Tony and myself, and
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  Speaker 4: we're all like, you just get into this now, Mike,
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  Speaker 4: and he's like, I know, I know, and that that
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  Speaker 4: was his whole show yesterday, just kept saying he goes
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  Speaker 4: and I know I'm late to the party. Everybody else
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  Speaker 4: has been telling me, but but yeah, I just like
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  Speaker 4: they have no receivers, they have no offense the line,
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  Speaker 4: they have no quarterback, have nobody to coach the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: I love that they have no scheme.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, I mean, I get what you're saying, Felger,
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  Speaker 5: but like it's been a week and a half since
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  Speaker 5: they fired, like they got give them somebody.
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  Speaker 4: It's amazing that like he woke up yesterday and decided
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  Speaker 4: that all these things were true when we tiggered this, well,
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  Speaker 4: he just watched the last two years of the worst
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  Speaker 4: offensive football.
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  Speaker 1: I think on his part, a lot of this showmanship, Like.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of this was showmanship. Usually
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  Speaker 4: it is.
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  Speaker 1: I I agree.
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  Speaker 5: I love how Paul's describing because the reason I brought
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  Speaker 5: it up, I thought the same thing. And I mean
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  Speaker 5: I just I flipped on at five, and I think
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  Speaker 5: they usually do kind of a recap of what they've
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  Speaker 5: been doing, and and that's what he did. He was
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  Speaker 5: just going right down the line.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I.
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  Speaker 5: Mean, like, I yeah, but like dude, we're a week
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  Speaker 5: and a half into a completely new regime, like you know,
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  Speaker 5: like I know, it's a long way to go, but
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  Speaker 5: it was just kind of straight.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they've had problems with the offense since Cam Newton,
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  Speaker 1: and this year they were four and thirteen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for the most part because of the offense, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a bad situation. They're they're you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't say the whole team, but from the offense. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're building from the ground up. And this gets to.
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  Speaker 4: It's a complete total rebuilding.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this gets to the other thing that you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the exact number was, but it's
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  Speaker 1: eleven ocs that they've or potential ocs that they've talked to.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people have turned down the job, stay
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  Speaker 1: where they are. You know, if you're looking for two
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  Speaker 1: years of success to get a head coaching job, this
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  Speaker 1: is a bad job for you because you're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it. But if you're interested in building.
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  Speaker 4: This is what you yelled at me for the other day.
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  Speaker 1: No, But if you're interested in building an offense in
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  Speaker 1: your own image from the ground up, this is a
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  Speaker 1: good job. You're gonna have a top pick, You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to do that. You've got some
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  Speaker 1: money to spend or burn, as the head coach would say.
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  Speaker 1: So it did. But if you're looking for that quick
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  Speaker 1: fix just to move on to be a head coach
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  Speaker 1: really quickly, you know, this would be a tough one.
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  Speaker 5: I think that was the thing that resonated like through
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  Speaker 5: Felger's craziness. But it I mean, you're right, Like it's not.
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  Speaker 5: I think everyone's looking at like the third overall pick
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  Speaker 5: and the cap space and the available free agents, and
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  Speaker 5: and it's like, yeah, they have they have resources, but
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  Speaker 5: they can't fix everything on offense in this happen. There's
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  Speaker 5: no way they're gonna plug every single hole. So really
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  Speaker 5: the conversation now becomes, what are you willing to punt
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  Speaker 5: on like what do you think you cannot wait for?
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  Speaker 1: Like what you know?
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  Speaker 5: And that's you know, when you get back to the
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  Speaker 5: conversation we had on Tuesday with the third quarterback, Like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, is it do you take the third quarterback?
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  Speaker 1: Or do you say?
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  Speaker 5: Look, I mean if you love him, yes, yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: don't like if you're wishy washy no, And I feel
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  Speaker 5: wishy washy right now about it.
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  Speaker 1: But you're not selecting now, I know.
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  Speaker 4: But like for me, it's Drake May. Yeah, the guy
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  Speaker 4: is Drake May, I'll take him. If it's Jayden Daniels,
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  Speaker 4: I wish you was, yeah, whoever it is.
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  Speaker 1: If your guy is there, you need to take him.
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  Speaker 1: But if he's if if you're making, if you're settling,
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  Speaker 1: then don't pull. Then trade down or take Marvin Harrison
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. But don't waste it on a guy you're
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  Speaker 1: not sold on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, do his trade down?
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  Speaker 5: As in play, I think it is well and I
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  Speaker 5: mean just a you know senior bull shout out, you know,
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  Speaker 5: watching something I asked. I mean there's just there's a
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  Speaker 5: bevy of tackles that are just big, mean, you know,
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  Speaker 5: great prospects that are going to go throughout the first round.
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  Speaker 5: So it's you know, now it just gets back to
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  Speaker 5: like these discussions that we have every off season of
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  Speaker 5: like if a class is stacked, well do you just
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  Speaker 5: wait for one of them? Or do you say I
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  Speaker 5: want the best one of all these tackles. I mean
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  Speaker 5: I think this, you know, you talk about the league
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  Speaker 5: needs tackles so bad. Right now this class is like
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  Speaker 5: a godsend to so many teams. But now it's like
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  Speaker 5: jockeying for position, and it's yes, there's a lot of them,
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  Speaker 5: but you love all of them? Are you sure on
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  Speaker 5: all of them?
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  Speaker 1: Or And that's the temptation for the Patriots is other
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  Speaker 1: than quarterback, you're gonna be able to pick the best
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  Speaker 1: player at any position. Yeah, and that and to that point,
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  Speaker 1: fred I, you know, as it stands right now, barring
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  Speaker 1: a trade of those top two picks, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots kind of control the draft.
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  Speaker 5: In some ways. I think was it a couple years ago,
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  Speaker 5: same kind of thing where it's like, you know who
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  Speaker 5: the first couple of picks are going to be, But
• 11:17
  Speaker 5: what's that next team gonna do? Are they gonna trade
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  Speaker 5: out and allow everything to kind of go sideways or
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  Speaker 5: are they going to make a pick off the beaten path.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's gonna screw everything up. For all these mock
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  Speaker 5: drafts that are you know this Williams may Daniels, Williams
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  Speaker 5: may Daniels, I mean just pretty much everyone I look
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  Speaker 5: at is Williams may Daniels.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, none have Harrison.
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  Speaker 4: I had not that.
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  Speaker 5: I mean not that I you know, not that I'm
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  Speaker 5: like going through every single one like it's but but
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  Speaker 5: are they.
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  Speaker 1: Are the mocks that you're looking at based on just
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  Speaker 1: the value chart or the need of the team as
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  Speaker 1: well and what you think the team will Because that's
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: assuming that the Patriots like Daniels. They may not like him, right,
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  Speaker 1: and then that then your mock.
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  Speaker 4: Draft is screwed and you never know. And yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: mean the value probably would have Harrison.
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  Speaker 1: In the right right, That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: That's yeah, yeah, but that's not how you do mock drafts.
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  Speaker 1: No, you shouldn't anyway.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I've seen now there's different Like Daniel Jeremiah
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  Speaker 4: has his top fifty and he I assume that he
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  Speaker 4: has Harrison in the top three.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's I think he's too. Actually, I
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  Speaker 5: think it's william Sais that makes.
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  Speaker 4: That makes sense to me? Yeah, I mean, and I
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  Speaker 4: get your point, But I think actually Chicago at the top,
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  Speaker 4: because of their situation with fields, they have a lot
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  Speaker 4: of control of the draft.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think that they would wait on fields though,
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  Speaker 5: or is that something that would happen, you know, a
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  Speaker 5: week or two before the drive. I mean we're not
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  Speaker 5: talking day one, like the night of the draft, that
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  Speaker 5: they would move. I mean when did they make that decision.
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  Speaker 4: They're probably in conversations with teams about trades, you know,
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  Speaker 4: leading in and then based on how those trades go,
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  Speaker 4: then you determine what you want to do with fields, right,
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  Speaker 4: because I don't think you keep both. No, I mean
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: you could. You could roll the dice with him and say, well,
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  Speaker 4: we have a fourth year quarterback. We can keep them
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  Speaker 4: and he plays this year, we draft Caleb Williams, but
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  Speaker 4: he plays, and then we let him walk. Yeah, in
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  Speaker 4: no way, then Caleb Williams sits a year. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's not the worst plan that I've ever heard. It's
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  Speaker 4: probably harder to do emotionally saying it just looks like
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  Speaker 4: on paper right, well, the nerds would like it. When no, no,
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  Speaker 4: that's what you do with math. So that's right here
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  Speaker 4: at math.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if you if you're gonna pick a
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  Speaker 1: guy you know high like that, it's the intent. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to be the starter someday. I don't care what
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  Speaker 1: Fields does, like.
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  Speaker 4: Oh right, that's what I'm saying. You let him play
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  Speaker 4: his fourth year. It's in his best interest to play
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  Speaker 4: as well as he can. It's not like he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: dump on, right, and then you let him walk, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and then Caleb Williams is the starter in year two.
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  Speaker 1: No matter how good Fields.
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  Speaker 5: Is, right, Yeah, but it's got to be appealing for
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  Speaker 5: Chicago to think we can move Fields and get some
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  Speaker 5: draft capital and then we can put more around Williams
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  Speaker 5: rather than The question is when you could even decide
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  Speaker 5: at the trade deadline, like maybe he plays a good
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  Speaker 5: half a season and you know, maybe you're in it,
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  Speaker 5: maybe you're not, but he plays really well, and then
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  Speaker 5: you trade him and maybe you can get a second
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  Speaker 5: round pick or something at the deadline, and then you
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: let Caleb Williams play the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the question is, you know, for the Bears,
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  Speaker 1: is when will his value be highest on the market
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  Speaker 1: and it's a risk. Is it now, is it just
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  Speaker 1: before the draft? Is it right after the draft? Or
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  Speaker 1: is it after he's played a little bit and maybe
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  Speaker 1: does well. But no matter what you do, you're taking
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  Speaker 1: a risk.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you wait to see how the free
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  Speaker 5: agency market plays out? And where those guys, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the kirk Cousins of the world, those guys land and
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  Speaker 5: then you.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: Know, someone get desperate. Yeah, someone that didn't get it,
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: you know, does in Atlanta. Maybe they wanted Kirk Cousins,
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: maybe they wanted Baker Mayfield, they didn't get any of them. Yep,
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: they come back.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's tough to put the puzzle together right now.
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: And I think that's what everybody's kind of starting to do.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: And if you're a team that wants Fields or is
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: interested in it, feels, what's your strategy is it? You know,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: give him something, give him a pick now, and get
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: it done with, you know, and so that it's a
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: t enough where they can't say no, like a high
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: second round pick, or do you wait see if the
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: value goes down? You know, like it's yeah, but if
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: you really like Fields, I would say, you're you're talking
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: to them now, you know, are you even interested.
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: You know, yeah, that's a surprise the rumors haven't started
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: to kick up.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: I mean that's maybe because of the Super Bowl.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: Once everybody gets down into down there, they'll start talking.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: But it's no, there's just a lot of holes to
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: be filled for the Patriots. And I think that's what
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: everybody is kind of at right now of like, you know,
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: looking at yeah, that number three overall pick. It's great,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: we can talk about you know what three guys that
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: that you know they might potentially take there, But it's uh,
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: you know, it's free agency. It's it's all that how
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: do they how do they build this team? And even
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: just watching some of you know, the Senior Bowl, it's
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: like what am I even looking at?
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Like you know who who?
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: Like what is Nick Keyley like like you know on
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: deep what like is it still kind of are they
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: running the same stuff still? Like I don't they want
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: those same kind of guys, like you know, every time
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: there'd be like a special teams player from Navy, you know, like,
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: oh I gotta watch this guy. You know, I mean
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: I'm joking with that part, but you know what I
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: mean long snapper from Navy. You know, So it's I
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: think it's just it's hard. You don't know exactly how
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: it's all gonna come together, how they're going to even
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: try to put this offense together.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Other news, Uh, Dan Quinn reportedly is going to be
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: the Commander's head coach. So that's it. All the head
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: coaching vacancies have been filled.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Well till after the Super Bowl Kansas.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: City, Well, the Freed steps down.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: Chefter just keeps saying it, and I think it's so odd.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: He's just trying to manifest speak.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: Why is there any kind of like evidence that he
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: might do then.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: That Andy Reid might step down, Yeah, you go out
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: on top.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: He might have said it to somebody.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Said here, He's been saying it for the last couple
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: of years. But I just don't think it makes any
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: sense to replace him with Bill Belichick. Now, I don't
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: think it makes any sense. Well, they have two former
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: head coaches on staff, so if you don't hire one
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: of those guys, you're blowing out the whole staff for
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: a team that, in this in this hypothetical, is back
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: to back Super Bowl champion. And I'm just gonna say,
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: you know what, that was too much success. Let's blow
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: it all up. Well, I don't think it makes any
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: sense at all.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Do you have to blow it up? I mean, in
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: this case, if it's all you know, I've never heard
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Bill say this, but if it's true that he really
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: wants to break down Shoulea's record, for this situation, you
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: might make a concession. Say I'm just gonna come in
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and coach and win games with the best quarterback in
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the in the league for a few years and then quit.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: But way Spagnolo and Naggy say, they stay with me,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: see you, Well, I don't know.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe they want to keep winning too. It's fun to
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: be on a team that wins, you know. I don't know.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't think there's any chance that Bill
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Belichick would be the coach and the rest of the
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: staff would stay.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Matt Naggi's not going to be the head coach. I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: don't stunk in Chicago.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Well, spag Stunk is a head coach too, But they're
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: former head coaches. They're going to leave.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, but neither one of them is going to
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: be the new head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Of that, I don't. I think they'd be crazy to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure of.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: That the enemy maybe bring the enemy back maybe you know, but.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I could do that the enemy with with maybe Naggie
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: would stay for that.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, those two guys are where they should be.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: They should be coordinators. That's their ceiling. And sometimes you
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: realize that, you know.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: Is heck of a He's.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: A really good defensive coordinator and that's that's that's his calling.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I just find it crazy. Spags, I think is probably
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: content with it. Naggie, I guess what's Naggie is he's
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: looking for another shot, and I don't think he'd be
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: wrong to I think he had more success than other
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: guys that got second shots.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: It's just such a heater, Like who would dump Patrick
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Mahomes in the prime of his career and be like
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: I'm good, I can like there's so much, like, so
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: many more games to win with that guy, Like you're
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: going to tap out now, Like it's it's not that hard.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: So I I think that I could see a situation
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: where Belichick comes in and is just the coach and
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: you know, they keep winning.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: What about Buffalo, Well, I think they would keep winning
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: if Belichick was the coach, because it's the best team
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: in football.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I don't see any scenario that the staff all just
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: stays in place and Bill just becomes the head coach,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: because you think he gets his kids are coming with him,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Patricia's coming, McDaniels is coming.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: But maybe not. I mean you're just assuming all that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Maybe I forgot about Joe Judge.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: But if Bill takes a year off, though, does that
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: affect his chances? You think?
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Or I think it does. I think everyone's saying, oh,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: all these other jobs are going to open up, and
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: there are always jobs that open up, you know, but
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you know, now he's even a year older.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, right, he's gotten out of that just
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's been in this rhythm for what.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I had a conversation with Chris Jasper about it. He
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: seems to think it'd be great for him take a
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: step back. You'd be further removed from the stink of
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the four and thirteen. I'm like, yeah, and he'd be
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: a year older. He's going to be seventy three when
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: he's looking for another job and you're out of the league,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: like you're not.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, maybe he would continue to watch film and
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: players and break down and stay up on everything. But
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: like I got to imagine. It's hard to I mean,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Sean Pink could probably tell you what it's like.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, other guys have done it. It's not
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: unprecedented that coaches have been out of it come back
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and get head coaching jobs. So it's not unprecedented. But
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's it just depends on what
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: his demand.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: It's not unprecedented to take a year off. It would
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: be unprecedented to take a year off at age seventy two.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's ever been done.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: That's therefore unprecedented.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's Bill Belichick.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, no, there's probably there's always going to be
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: a team. Will mean I put him. He just had
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: six openings and didn't get any of them. I know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: but and talk to reportedly one team.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. He only talked to one team.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's no one else wanted them, Fred, I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: don't know about that. I think the Cowboys wanted him, agin.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I think I think Bill said, when you have an opening,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: i'll talk to you. I'm not going to talk to
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you while you have a coach demployed. I just won't
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: get don't job a.
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: Couple of games next year early on like I could
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: see them parting ways with Mike McCarthy and Belichick sitting there.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I could see them parting ways with Mike McCarthy. But
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think like automatically means that Bill is going there. Definitely.
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: I just like especially with Rabel also, like that's another thing.
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: Mike Rabel doesn't get a job right now, that's true.
• 21:23
  Speaker 11: Coach of the Year how many seasons ago, like.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Two, Yeah, what does he do this year?
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know, special advisors.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Everybody talks about Bill going to the booth. I think
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I think Rabel would be a great analyst. Kidding me,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: he would be a guy who's not afraid to say things.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I got a text from our producer Don Maxon,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: who's a big BC guy, and he was, you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: lamenting Jeff Hafley leaving in the middle of the night
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: to go to Green Bay, and I said, go give Rabel.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: But you know, I think it's it's becoming.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: More of a thing now with college, with all the
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: NIL stuff, and it's becoming a different environment. And I
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: don't know if it's the same kind of I mean,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: maybe it never was that appealing thing to NFL coaches generally,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: but it's a different ballgame now in college, and I
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: think you have to be ready to deal with all
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: that stuff. Now.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: My first thought with BC was your old buddy. I
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: wonder if he regrets yeah from Holy Cross.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: Jmu Well, I mean, you know college football escape better
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: than me. What would be James Madison or BC?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: What would be?
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: No?
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: What?
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: BC? Obviously you know a higher job in terms of
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: acc and all that stuff. But I'm just saying if
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: he didn't hadn't already taken that, if this, I wonder
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: if he would have thought differently. I don't know where
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: he's from originally.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: He's from Pennsylvania actually, but he's been in Assumption and.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: But it's not like it had to be New England.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: That was something he was always thinking of for Vrabel.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: I don't think BC makes a ton of sense. I
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: don't think this kid went there right. I don't think
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: it's a great job.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Was the halfway thing like a shocker to BC?
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Or had planning?
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: I saw Kevin Stone write in a little bit about it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: I think he said, all of a sudden, like all
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: the football team got up last night at like halftime
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: of a basketball game PC and like walked out because
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: they had just heard that, Like so I think.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: It was a surprise to a lot of people.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: So they in other words, it's going to take them
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a little while for this search. They don't have a
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: guy lined up, no.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: No, and it seems like a lot of that's been
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: been done already, so.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: It is a little late too for colleges.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Well if it's usually whoever, the head coach of BC
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: has spoken at the coaches clinic that I do, and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: you know, this year, like for some reason b C
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: wouldn't commit. They sent one guy like one of the assistants,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: and it's like that's kind of weird, you know, and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: now we know why.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Did you get any of the holy Cross guys?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Just one so far? Drew Canan he didn't go, No,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I know's he went with him, But about going somebody
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: else running Holy Cross, there's a lot of shake up
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: right now, so we're slow in getting our clinicians in.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: I want to go to that this year.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I always want to just go and listen, did you
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: just get to talk?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I could that'll yeah, you know, uh x y concepts
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: don't know what he calls.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: Yeh, leak leak pull pin pin pull.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: You can't pull before you pin. If you you're gonna
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: have a bad time. Even I knew that one.
• 24:23
  Speaker 12: Scheme.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: All right, what else before we open it up to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the listeners, we talked about no game this weekend, No
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: game this weekend, No.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Picks, don't hurt. No, I'll give the results though, you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: at the end of the show, I'll give the results,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: and uh, we'll get ready for the last one. Yeah, Freddy,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: he's got a little competition.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, not.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Really postseason he kicks it into a new level.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: You know, it's got a feel for the league. Well,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: you know what the problem? You know, fred actually gets
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: better in the in the postseason because all the teams
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: that he has generally don't make the playoffs. That's why
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: last year and last year he rug the last couple
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: of years he struggled in the postseason because the Bengals
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: have been part of the playoffs. This year, they were
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: back to being the Bengals. It's gonna be.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: Interesting to see with Joe Burrow comes back, how he
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: kind of fits into what we've learned this year of
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: just Patrick Mahomes continuing to Yeah, I mean we've.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Given him a pass, but now this is two seasons
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: where it's been derailed by injury.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, can he get back into that level?
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: And you know what does it look like? Do they
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: bring T Higgins back?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Do you guys read that piece that that Chris Gasper
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: had yesterday and Brady Senior? No, I saw some highlights
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: of it. It was very funny, Like the headline was.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Extremely well, that's what that's what I know. I can't
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: scale the the wall that they have at a globe,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: but yeah, well.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I could just give you my heart like if you read.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Like, if you agree that like you thought it was
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a lot more rosy from the headline. But when you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: get into.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Everybody, this one mildly complimentary quote at the top. It's
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: the headline is Brady Senior goes to bat for Belichick,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: right right, and this one mildly compliment three. Uh, he's
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: a great, great, great coach, three greats, kind of like
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: when I called him a very very good draft damn rights. Right.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: And then the rest of it is all about how
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: he didn't do nothing with Brady. He thought he thought
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: that Brady was done. He went on and won a
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl without him. It was just like regular Tom.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Brady He's a great, great, great coach, but there was
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: a butt after that. He's got a personality flaw.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: In Foxborough, there's been His interpersonal skills are terrible, are
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: terrible in Foxborough's has been down in the dump dumper
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: in the last five years or whatever.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Ou mister Brady put him in the booth.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I'd rather have him in the booth than his son. Yeah,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: tell you that.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Paul.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I'm so curious how to say that. I think everybody
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: kind of default to it. Tom Brady, he'll figure it out.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Well, he's so competitive. He never figured out acting, so
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's a good point. And Deuce would know.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: You do spend time in Hollywood, Alex, did you know
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: that Duce used to be in Hollywood? I have a
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: whole song about it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: You have been working on some screenplays?
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, you gotta work on that one today.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Fred's notes are these?
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: What's the genre drama working on?
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: We're working on our thing, on our little schedule, our thing,
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: but our thing with Fred gave me some notes, but
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: it came with the disclaimers.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: I don't mind the stain on the front page. That's
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: to my interview. When I interview with Fred, he had
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: a stain on his T shirt.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: And I was like, well, from the looks, somebody really
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: liked it.
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I was just getting over the the the unfortunate phrase
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: from last week.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: You know what it is. It's like liquid glue that
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I was trying to glue this lamp shade and I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: got it all over the place, and it does look
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: liquid glue, liquid glue office in my office, it does look.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: So when I handed Douce, this is.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Either a deviant or he's trying to get high glue.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I handed Deuced the I said, it's
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: not what you see.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: So we'll be working on that later.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff, good stuff. You smell it. It's glue. Yeah,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I can imagine a photo.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I was about to run through the photocopy of machine.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Just to be safe. I got some late black live.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: I don't need a DNA test.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: You know what was.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Is that hair? Jim?
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I know that movie?
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Okay? Freddie got a reference?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, eight five five pass five hundred is taken hotline
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: web radio at pages dot com. Is the email address?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: All right, let's open it up, right, open it up.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Whatever we missed I'm sure lines over there, it really is.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: We got it fixed, right, yeah, ish, Yeah, there's still
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: a couple of lines down, but we've got four lines working.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Arthur's in New York. What's up, Arthur?
• 28:57
  Speaker 14: Hey, how are you guys?
• 28:59
  Speaker 15: First?
• 28:59
  Speaker 14: I heard Paul say earlier that he was a little
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: wishy washy on Daniels. Personally, I'm just wishy because I
• 29:06
  Speaker 14: wish that we just draft this guy. I mean, I
• 29:08
  Speaker 14: think he's the best quarterback in the draft. If I
• 29:09
  Speaker 14: had the first kick, I would take him there. But
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: my second point is there's a lot of people, like
• 29:15
  Speaker 14: on the internet campaigning about certain offensive coordinators who they
• 29:19
  Speaker 14: think the best offensive coordinator higher should be. But the
• 29:23
  Speaker 14: reality is none of us know these guys personally. I mean,
• 29:26
  Speaker 14: Brian Flurry is the forty nine Ers tight ends coach.
• 29:29
  Speaker 14: Thomas Brown is the Bears passing game coordinator. I didn't
• 29:33
  Speaker 14: even know that a passing game coordinator was a thing.
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: Nick Cayley isn't formerly with the papers, but as the
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: Rams tight ends coach, how does anybody actually know unless
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: you are breaking down their playbook know them personally, are
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: coaching within the building, who the best guy is?
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I agree with you, on that on the internet. Yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I agree with you on that. I think people are
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: just going off of resumes, and that's what I go
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: off of more than anything. I'm looking for a guy
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: who actually has some experience calling plays. But I wanted
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: to get back Athor to your original point about Caleb
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Williams and Jade and Daniels. What is it about Daniels
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: that you like more than Williams.
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: Well, first of all, the rushing ability is on a
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: completely different level. He's run for over two thousand yards
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: and twenty touchdowns over the past two seasons. He is
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: by far the best rusher in the draft. You could
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: make a case that Caleb Williams has a little bit
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: better pocket presence his ability to move around the pocket,
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: but rushing ability on the whole. If Jayden Daniels couldn't
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: throw the ball at all, he would still have such
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: a high four just due to his rushing ability. He's
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: a better rusher than justin Field in my opinion. He's
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: that special and electric of a rusher. He can, you know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: snap off a seventy yard run. It's not something that
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: Caleb Williams is gonna do.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, got it? And I would agree with you. I
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: think he's a better runner than Caleb Williams.
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: But he's not just a better runner. He's an elite
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: runner like Jalen Hurts type.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: So would you rather have Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes.
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: Well, that's that's the thing that I love about Jaden Daniels.
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: He completed over seventy percent of his passes this year,
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: even as a true freshman at Arizona State.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: In a completely I don't complete seventeen.
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: Touchdowns to two interceptions, He's it was a beautiful ball.
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: That's what people are going to realize when they actually
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: see him.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: He's not a great passer. He's not He's not a
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: great passer. He's got a lot of work to do
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: as a passer.
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: But what makes you say that?
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Because he can from watching them watching him against good defenses.
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: He Strugglesxas he played Texas A and M, a defense
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: that hadn't given up a touchdown in twenty five straight drive.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Watch the Florida State game, both of them acually.
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: Put up over three hundred and fifty yards and free
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: touchdown against Alabama three hundred fifty yards and three touchdown
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: this season.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: He's not a great passer. He's a great runner. I
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: agree with you on that, but he's nowhere near Caleb
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Williams as a passer, not even close.
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: But you've got to look at the offense.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got better weapons, which I.
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: Agree with you because like Malik Agbors is also going
• 31:44
  Speaker 9: to be a top ten pick in the draft. But
• 31:46
  Speaker 9: I don't think you can discount what he actually did.
• 31:49
  Speaker 9: I mean, he was the runaway heisman. He had forty
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: passing touchdowns this season. That's more than Caleb Williams by
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: a lot. He had over forty eight hundred yards.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: You know, and no one had better stats than Bailey's appy,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Like the stats don't like just what just watching you
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: you can't possibly compare Jalen Daniels as a passer to
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, Like they're not even close.
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: But he did it, Okay, Look in twenty nineteen, he
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: was That was the same offense that Ni kil Harry
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: was in in twenty eighteen at Arizona State. That offense
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: was broken, right, They were not an explosive offense. They
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: were coming off of HERM Edwards as a coach, who you.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Know, I'm just going off of last year. I'm not
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: going I'm not gonna like but you have to look.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: But I'm not going to hold against him what he
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: did when he was eighteen years old six years ago.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I'm just talking about the last two years.
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: But does that not matter to you that as a
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: true freshman in the.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: ES season, that he struggled a little bit in the.
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: Pac twelve, which is a difficult you.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Know, it's not really, it's not a it's I mean,
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: this this past year it was. It was pretty good,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: but traditionally it hasn't been all that good.
• 32:56
  Speaker 15: But for an.
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: Eighteen year old true freshman.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: He struggled. And I get it, like he was just
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: a kid that I get it. I can't. I can't.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Obviously he's related to Jalen Daniels in some way. I mean,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: and fifty. Do you ever watch college games and see
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: anybody with a bad quarterback rating?
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: Absolutely? And fifty is exceptional, especially as a true freshman.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, all the other all the other people that watch
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: these games are wrong. Author is the only one that
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: sees the true greatness in the passing. He's got a
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: lot of work to do as a passer. He looks
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: to run. He's in everything he said about Okay, Daniels
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: as a runner, I agree.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: With I don't know answer.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: He looks to run first. But let me ask you,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: and that is something that is hard to do in
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: the NFL.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Is he a better passer now than Lamar Jackson was
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: when he was going?
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Very similar?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Very similar?
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: And by the way, as long as we're just gonna
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: go by stats, why don't you look at Lamar Lamar
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Jackson's stats his junior year when he won the Heisman Trophy.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: He just said this guy, he just said he can't
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: he couldn't throw. Well, absolutely absolutely. Stats were there, So
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: don't tell me about one hundred and fifty passer rating
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: in the in the forty touchdowns, like.
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: But look, what was the knock on Lamar Jackson coming
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: into the league.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: He was a little right, he was no, he needed
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: to develop as a passer, but that's.
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: What he did. But it was also his frame. That's
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: the biggest knock on Jaden's right now. Was his frame.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: No, the biggest knock on The biggest knock on Lamar
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Jackson was if you bring him in, you're gonna have
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: to redo your offense to tailor to his game.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Because he wasn't a an accomplished passer, and I think,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: to be honest with you, I think he's great, but
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I think there's still questions about that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, but is forty touchdowns to foeig interceptions not
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: impressive as a pastor?
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Have you like it's not? It doesn't at the college level.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: It does absolutely nothing for me. Nothing.
• 34:51
  Speaker 9: But he wasn't bon Nicks through completed seventy I think.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Bon Nick stinks, Like That's what I'm telling you.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: I don't think Boone Nicks is a very accurate passer,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and his completion percentage was through the roof.
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: But Jayden Datis was throwing it down the field and
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: completing as past as.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: That's two wide open players like Matt Jones threw it
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: all over the place too. I don't think he can
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: hit the broadside of a barn.
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: He made tight window throws. To say in a vacuum
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: that everyone was wide open because he had good weapons
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: around him is false.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: I just don't think he's a great pastor. We can
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: agree to disagree with Arthur, like, I don't need a
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: stat to tell him he's a great You need.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: To stay in touch here, I mean we need, we
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: need you to end point. We need you to be
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: a regular cont just just thank you before author goes.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Of course you dump them. I like Jayden Daniels, I
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: just don't like them like that.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Well, he has.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Worked to do it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Somebody's going to be right here, he has worked. No,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: somebody's going to be right.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: My guess is neither one of us is going to
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: be right.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well we'll see.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: You know, because if you just go by like seventy
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: percent completion percentage, that doesn't tell me anything. But and
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: that's what he was doing. He was giving me that
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: twenty touchdowns, but seventy percent. I don't care. He's not
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: in the car. He's not a gifted pocket passer. He's
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: a great gifted runner.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I think like I like it. Arthur brought
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: it first call, right out of the choot bang. I
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: love it to bring it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: I wish I thought.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: And it's not like he's from New York. He wasn't
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: even from you know, Louisiana.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Would I mean if I was his passionate about Jade
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Daniel as he is, I would be like riding high
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: right now because I'm like, we got him, Like, let's
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: go we're gonna get him.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: We're gonna get it, and I will not be pissed
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: off if they draft Jayden Daniels. I'm just a little
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: wishy washing on him. I don't think I think he
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: can go either way, but if they decide that, they
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: think he's worth the investment, like I think, I look
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: back at Lamar Jackson with a lot of regret from
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: the Patriots' perspective. Now it's a little different at the
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: end of the first round. It is the top of
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: the first round. But I think that that was a
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: lost opportunity. I think that would have been the perfect
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: kind of guy who's not going to be ready in
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: clamoring for playing time as you go through the twilight
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: of Brady's career. I think that Josh mcdeniells was interested
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: in it, and I don't think they pulled the trigger
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, and I think that was a mistake.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: So if they end up getting Jayden Daniels and Arthur
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: ends up being right, I think we'll all be happy.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Because Josh says, you know, I really like this Lamar
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Jackson in the room says, and you like Tim Tebow.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: So I think you'll pass Fred. I think you might
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: be right. I think you might be right. Go sit
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: in the back. But listen if Arthur ends up being right,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: and he comes in and he's you know, he's more CJ.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Stroud as a passer than Lamar Jackson was. That's great.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: And he's the Patriots guy, and you got your guy,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: got our guy.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I liked his first line, he says, Paul said, I'm
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: wishing washed. He says, I'm wishing.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I wish I did like that line.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: That was a good line. Line He's called other shows before,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: he's practiced this. Oh, but I love it. Eldred's in
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: New York. What's up, Eldrick? What are you doing in
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: New York?
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: The track supposed to be in New York?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I mean shot.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Eldress on the run.
• 38:05
  Speaker 16: Alice took the merrill and the fellows. How y'all doing good? Hey, Hey,
• 38:11
  Speaker 16: I love that passion. But bro, I'm gonna disagree with you.
• 38:15
  Speaker 16: He wasn't the runaway Heisman because like all the understaid,
• 38:19
  Speaker 16: he should have went with to with Pennick. He should
• 38:21
  Speaker 16: have got it, but they gave it to him. And
• 38:23
  Speaker 16: another thing they do have U picking Daniels in three
• 38:29
  Speaker 16: number four, h Marvin Harrisons going to Arizona. But me,
• 38:33
  Speaker 16: if I had my wish, I'm getting there. I'm getting
• 38:35
  Speaker 16: Marvin Harrison at three and on the stuck round on
• 38:38
  Speaker 16: getting Michael Pennick. He's a better passing. He can't run
• 38:41
  Speaker 16: like like y'all said, you don't run like Josh Daniel
• 38:43
  Speaker 16: or excuse me, Josh Allen or Jay and Daniels. But
• 38:46
  Speaker 16: he can't move, and he's more active the past.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Like vand Wagon for a while, I'm.
• 38:52
  Speaker 16: Gonna I'm gonna keep being on it. You know what
• 38:54
  Speaker 16: I told you all about Strout last year? What you say,
• 38:57
  Speaker 16: Mike so Elder, just like starting all over again?
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: What year? But but Eldred, hold on a second. I
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: mean telling us about Stroud last year. It was useless,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: like he went with the third pick of the second
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: pick of the draft or whatever he went, but it
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: was he number two or three.
• 39:13
  Speaker 16: I would have traded, man said, I would have traded
• 39:15
  Speaker 16: Max tried to shoot.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's not gonna do it. I mean, I
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: can trade all my bad players to try to get
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: the good ones too, but no one's really gonna do
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: that for you. Well, may by trading Mac Jones, wasn't
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: getting you c J. Stroud last year.
• 39:30
  Speaker 16: Fifteen, I want to trade up to get what I
• 39:34
  Speaker 16: would have did go.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: It would have done whatever it took, all right, Like I.
• 39:40
  Speaker 16: Said, I watched it for two years, like I'm watching
• 39:42
  Speaker 16: Pin three.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Like you you can you can tell me like in
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: twenty one, I like Justin Fields better than mac Jones,
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: and I would have traded up from fifteen to get
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: to get to get Justin Fields. That that's that's realistic.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: The Patriots didn't realistically have a chance to trade up
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: and get CJ. Stroud last year with with mac Jones.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So Arthur's for Daniels Aldrich for Pennick.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Pennick struggling a little bit. Although I don't care. I
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: don't care what happens the super Bowl.
• 40:14
  Speaker 16: He did the first day, but but but the last
• 40:17
  Speaker 16: couple of days the Interval network and he's showing it. No,
• 40:19
  Speaker 16: he's not Okay, he did the first day, but he
• 40:23
  Speaker 16: but the one he's better than rest up.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: The only one I heard that was really bad was
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: next which I'm not surprised that because I don't think
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: he's very good.
• 40:31
  Speaker 16: Yeah, but but but it's stopped going up a little
• 40:35
  Speaker 16: bit and he's improved doing.
• 40:37
  Speaker 17: Better, and I like what they like.
• 40:39
  Speaker 16: You said he can throw short, he came through a medium.
• 40:41
  Speaker 16: He look, damn dude, yesterday doing it? They all right,
• 40:45
  Speaker 16: I don't know.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: All right, Aldritch is on board for Pennis. We got
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: just don't get any rush on Arthur for Daniels. Next
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: up is Tony in Michigan. What's up Tony?
• 40:56
  Speaker 18: Hey, lady and gentlemen, how are we doing?
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 41:01
  Speaker 18: I guess quarterback wise, I'm I'm putting my vote in
• 41:04
  Speaker 18: for Drake.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: May Drake May Drake may caller.
• 41:08
  Speaker 18: All right, Yeah, I kind of think that Daniels love
• 41:11
  Speaker 18: is more people talking themselves into it because we won't
• 41:15
  Speaker 18: be able to get Williams.
• 41:16
  Speaker 15: Or May Sure. I kind of agree with you, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 15: you know, I.
• 41:20
  Speaker 18: Mean, Daniels is a talented runner. He's definitely the best
• 41:23
  Speaker 18: runner of you know, of the three. I think he's
• 41:25
  Speaker 18: smaller than Lamar when Lamar was coming out, and I
• 41:28
  Speaker 18: just don't love, you know, he screams one hit. Wonder
• 41:30
  Speaker 18: to me who produced when he had great talent?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so what do you like about may Well
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the draft?
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be a little defensive of Daniels and
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: take Arthur's argument he wasn't a stiff at Arizona State.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: He was pretty good there. You know, he wasn't a
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: one hit wonder. Now he went to the Heisman Trophy
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: candidate in the SEC, playing against the you know, the
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: best of the best. But he wasn't terrible his first
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: year at Arizona State.
• 41:56
  Speaker 18: No, I mean, he was pretty terrible, but it's not
• 41:58
  Speaker 18: he was not really, It's not like, oh, watch this guy.
• 42:01
  Speaker 18: You know, this isn't a guy to put on the
• 42:02
  Speaker 18: radar and like he's going to be amazing, you know
• 42:06
  Speaker 18: as a prospect of seems like a guy that climbed.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he definitely climbed this year. He put himself in
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: a different level.
• 42:13
  Speaker 19: Absolutely, Yeah, But I was so I guess going to
• 42:17
  Speaker 19: the draft, the way that I see this team, the
• 42:22
  Speaker 19: offense is completely barren and the defense is old.
• 42:26
  Speaker 18: To me, this is a time where we should be
• 42:30
  Speaker 18: looking at trading away guys like Jude and John Jones,
• 42:34
  Speaker 18: you know, getting what draft capital we can for some
• 42:38
  Speaker 18: of these aging guys on defense and really focusing on
• 42:42
  Speaker 18: building both sides of the ball through the draft. I
• 42:45
  Speaker 18: know people don't like that because it's kind of committing
• 42:48
  Speaker 18: to you know, allow people see the defense as elite
• 42:52
  Speaker 18: still and that if we can get a mediocre offense
• 42:55
  Speaker 18: will be complete competing for the playoffs. I just don't
• 42:58
  Speaker 18: feel the same.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 43:00
  Speaker 18: I think by the time the offense is ready to compete,
• 43:02
  Speaker 18: the defense is going to be you know, a bunch
• 43:04
  Speaker 18: of Judon's coming off a season ending injury. You know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 18: Barmore and Gonzalez is the only young building blocks we
• 43:09
  Speaker 18: have right now.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I love that idea of Judon. I think Judon could
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: fetch you something. Yeah, did you get your second round?
• 43:17
  Speaker 13: Oh?
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's more ammunition to reload.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: And I kind of like that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 18: If there, I wouldn't and I wouldn't be opposed to
• 43:28
  Speaker 18: trading away Judon and trying to extend Uja to keep
• 43:32
  Speaker 18: a young pass rusher around. I know, you know, he
• 43:34
  Speaker 18: hasn't really been up to the level of what you know,
• 43:38
  Speaker 18: a young pass rusher will probably get on the free
• 43:40
  Speaker 18: agent market.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: I'm less interested in.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem with is he's so specialized.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: He just.
• 43:48
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't love him, but
• 43:51
  Speaker 18: I think just you know, to keep some sort of
• 43:54
  Speaker 18: semblance of a pass rush. You know, if they did
• 43:56
  Speaker 18: move on from judon it'd be an idea to kick around.
• 43:59
  Speaker 18: I just I guess, I guess I'm just wondering, you know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 18: and then I can hang up. You know, if you
• 44:03
  Speaker 18: guys feel similarly that the timelines aren't lining up, the
• 44:08
  Speaker 18: defense is going to be you know, aging and kind
• 44:10
  Speaker 18: of declining by the time the offense is there, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 18: you know, should be kind of look at rebuilding the
• 44:15
  Speaker 18: whole thing right now.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that all right. I think Tony.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: I think Tony makes good points. I don't really care
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: about the time the timetable lining up as much as
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Tony does.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: But if you could.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Tell me that the offense is going to get fixed,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: you can be fine on defense. Yeah, Like, they're not
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: a lot of really good offenses that aren't threats because
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: the defense stinks. Like generally, if you have a really
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: good offense, you're a contender. And I think the Lions
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: defense stinks as as a comparison, and then he absolutely
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: should be playing a week from Sunday. But the timetable
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: part of it, I want to make the move that
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: I'm interested in, the move that he wanted to make,
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: because I think that that could quicken the timetable Yeah,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Like I think if you could get like a you know,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: draft capital for for those two guys that he mentioned,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Judon and Jones. I don't know. I don't think Jonathan
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Jones is getting you anything, but Judon could for a
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: team that that's a premiere position and he's you know,
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: he's a proven standout pass rusher for someone like like
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Bradley Chubb when he went to the Dolphins. You know
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: someone might do that. Yeah, someone might give you a
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: second round.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: Pame season one.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: I mean is that we think with Yeah, I mean
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: it could happen. I just that to me, that's the timetable.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: I'm interested. How do I quicken the pace of adding
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: all the things that I need to add on offense? Well,
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's worth adding.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: I mean perspective, Wise guy, I mean, we don't know
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: what's gonna happen this year, but this group guy gotscha.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Barmore and Wise are.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: All free agents next year.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: So you know, Tony's right about the age. Barbore and
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Zas are the only two young guys on defense. So
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, I like the sound of that. Barmore. You know,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: resource to.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: The defensive line is pretty old except for Barmore, but.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Other than I mean jude On Bentley Jones.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I said, well, Judea, but like, how old is Jonathan Jones?
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Thirty?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think he was that old.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I know, because everybody thinks the only reason why they
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: were average age on their roster was because Matthew Slater's
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: been around a long time, but they had an old team.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I mean, but you know, is still on
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: his first contract, but he's a free he's gone.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: I know he's gone, but he's not that old. No, no, no, no.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: If they're if they're all back, then that's different. But
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming that he's gone, is gone. Like those are
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: the young guys on defense. You know, you could lose Jennings,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: j Duggar, Barmore and then and then then you have
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: basically just Gonzales left as a young guy, you know,
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: head heading into the twenty five. They should be right
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: getting him because all those guys are up now right
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: now except for Barmore will be up next year.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you now.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: That's I mean no disrespect to Ouch or Douggar or
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: a mind you, but Barmore would be my priority right now.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: And I think you know to all what we're talking about.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: You can't let him go.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: A long term impact defensive lineman. You know, it's I
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: would agree. I would agree Barbara has a chance to
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: be special.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Eric's in New Jersey. What's up, Eric?
• 47:20
  Speaker 20: Hey, how are we doing today?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Good?
• 47:23
  Speaker 20: Like I said, I totally piggyback off of Tony again.
• 47:27
  Speaker 20: I'm with him, stride by stride. I thought you should
• 47:29
  Speaker 20: have been able to trade John Jones last year at
• 47:31
  Speaker 20: the trade deadline. But you know, considering most teams need
• 47:34
  Speaker 20: a lot of secondary help. I mean, he's gonna be
• 47:36
  Speaker 20: thirty two coming at the end of this next season.
• 47:38
  Speaker 20: I mean, people look at that Texans model and they
• 47:41
  Speaker 20: try to see that we can replicate that, but we
• 47:43
  Speaker 20: don't have the foundational pieces that There's no Punsole, there's
• 47:46
  Speaker 20: no Mason here, there's no Nico Collins here. You know,
• 47:49
  Speaker 20: some of those places, you know on the offensive side
• 47:52
  Speaker 20: is just not there. And when you look at this,
• 47:55
  Speaker 20: when you when you look at the roster and totality,
• 47:57
  Speaker 20: there's no way that you can sit here and say,
• 47:59
  Speaker 20: you know, give the free agent class. You know, maybe
• 48:03
  Speaker 20: if you hit it out and park out the draft,
• 48:04
  Speaker 20: but you know, maybe realistically you get two three guys
• 48:07
  Speaker 20: you know on average, but you know, how quick can
• 48:10
  Speaker 20: you really you know, in the state of this roster
• 48:12
  Speaker 20: where you have most of your defensive turnover. Like again,
• 48:14
  Speaker 20: D's just mentioned a lot of these guys as free
• 48:16
  Speaker 20: agents next year. You know, there's no talent, you know
• 48:19
  Speaker 20: backing these guys up. There's no talent, especially.
• 48:21
  Speaker 15: On the offensive side.
• 48:23
  Speaker 20: I mean, so, like, what is like the realistic like
• 48:25
  Speaker 20: expectations that we can sit here and say, because I
• 48:29
  Speaker 20: think I don't want us to fall into that trap
• 48:30
  Speaker 20: of twenty twenty one where the free agent class to say,
• 48:33
  Speaker 20: if Pittman, Higgins are all locked up, you're picking third
• 48:37
  Speaker 20: tier guys. Evans is locked up, you know, Curtis Damuel
• 48:41
  Speaker 20: Markith Brown. I mean, is that who using our you know,
• 48:44
  Speaker 20: change lights? And again the draft, I mean, yeah, there's
• 48:47
  Speaker 20: a lot of good wide receivers, but game breakers like
• 48:49
  Speaker 20: your Neighbors and goons A Harrison. I mean, I think
• 48:52
  Speaker 20: it's that class. And then there's you know, maybe Keon
• 48:54
  Speaker 20: Coleman and die Miss and then there's just good wide
• 48:56
  Speaker 20: receivers like your kens Are Bourne type. So I mean
• 48:59
  Speaker 20: it's just realistic. I just don't know, how can you
• 49:03
  Speaker 20: the expectation. How can you, like, what is the vision
• 49:05
  Speaker 20: that you got to see individually? And I'll take it
• 49:07
  Speaker 20: off the line. Thanks God, all.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Right, thanks, that's a great question. I mean that's what
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: I'm you know, scrambling to try to figure out how
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: you can rebuild all these pieces. And then meanwhile, like
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: I just said, you're staring at next year, the defense
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: is gonna they're gonna all turn over and along the line,
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: which I mean, I think is you know, critical. I
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: mean that's you know, say what you will about last
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: season's Patriots team, but they at least were able to
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: kind of win the line of scrimmage and do pretty
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: well against the run.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen overnight, no, you know.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, I just I think that there's a there's
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: no tackles in the league. You know, it's just it's
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: so hard to find tackles. So I just I think,
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: and it should have been a priority last year. They
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: have to figure out a way to get a stud
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: tackle this year one way or another like that. That
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: to me, like quarterback, you can take a swing on it,
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: and I you know, I just continue to think with receivers,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: there's so many good receivers, you know, and it's like
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison, they simply.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know the name, but if they had simply
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: replaced cold Strange with a tackle, they might be in
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: a better position right now, very possibly name good tackle
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: out of that draft.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: So there's a lot of different things that you could
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: do with that with names. So instead of Cold Strange,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: you take Trent McDuffie or no, but I know he's not.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not done. Then instead of taking Christian Gonzales, you
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: have an all pro cornerback already in Trent McDuffie. So
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: now I can take a tackle, just com on it,
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: you know, and maybe you know, and I don't know
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: how good. What's the the guy that we swindled the
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Jets out of Dwan Jones? Which one is that the
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: fourth round pick? Which one is the guy that Pittsburgh
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Tooks couldn't take Broderick Jones? You know, maybe you'd take
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Broderick Jones and you're not looking here, you know, walking
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: around with a tin cup in your hand looking for
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: a tackle, right like that. That's the kind of those
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: are the sort of change actions. So that's where I
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: sat drafting kills you. That's where I say to Eric,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: That's what I say to him, is like, you know,
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know where this is going to come from.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: It's going to come from just being smart going forward
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: and not making mistakes. The bottom line is now, regardless
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: of who they take and where, they need to stack
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: some draft classes together of quality players.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: And if you do that, you start, you know, like
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the Jets.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: You can do it in two years the Jets. The
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: Jets did it right.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: The Jets are close. They just need a quarterback right
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: now and maybe some O line hope help.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: But that's not that hard, you know, and if they
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: had a good quarterback, their O line would look a
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: lot better. Like they have two good like they did
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: invest in their offensive line. They all they just always
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: get hurt. Yeah, Beckton has been a disappointment, but verit.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Tucker's really good. He's just never healthy.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: So I mean, it can be done. It's like, obviously
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: there's hope. You just have to you have to hit,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: you have to be smart.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: And you can be You can get by with average
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: offensive line play if you're good. Like the problem with
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: the Jets is obvious. They just don't have a quarterback
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: that they can rely on.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Todd's in North Carolina. Heye Todd.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: By the way, they're mex.
• 52:00
  Speaker 12: And have a trouble with the phone. I don't know
• 52:01
  Speaker 12: if it's on your end or mind, but it's end.
• 52:05
  Speaker 15: Probably.
• 52:06
  Speaker 12: So here's what my thought process is. I don't think
• 52:09
  Speaker 12: we should get a quarterback this year because we're probably
• 52:11
  Speaker 12: going to get a young, new type OC, and I
• 52:15
  Speaker 12: would like to get somebody veteran, just as a place older,
• 52:18
  Speaker 12: come in and let that OC get a year under
• 52:20
  Speaker 12: his belt and then develop the offense because right now
• 52:23
  Speaker 12: there's only one star on the offense, one guy that
• 52:25
  Speaker 12: I consider to be you know, star worthy, and he
• 52:28
  Speaker 12: start slot back, I think that's it. I don't pop
• 52:32
  Speaker 12: our running back, like give me a star, give me
• 52:36
  Speaker 12: a new one, and everything else, like our online is garbage,
• 52:39
  Speaker 12: our receivers garbage. We need to start new. So I
• 52:44
  Speaker 12: think we need to get because we're most likely going
• 52:47
  Speaker 12: to get a young OC. I can't see us getting anybody.
• 52:49
  Speaker 12: I can't see Daniels coming back. Please no, So let's
• 52:52
  Speaker 12: get the OC one year with a golder quarterback that's
• 52:55
  Speaker 12: just going to sit in there and hang out for
• 52:58
  Speaker 12: a year and build the offense. And then when we
• 53:00
  Speaker 12: can go in the next year's draft and we'll have it,
• 53:03
  Speaker 12: hopefully a bit of an old line, maybe a receiver
• 53:05
  Speaker 12: or two, and you know, we can get that quarterback
• 53:08
  Speaker 12: then and give him something.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: So you're saying, don't draft a quarterback this year, get
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: a bridge guy and wait.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: But why not do both?
• 53:14
  Speaker 21: Exactly?
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Why not get a bridge guy and draft a quarterback
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: and let him let him learn?
• 53:20
  Speaker 12: Can you can you afford that? Can you actually get
• 53:22
  Speaker 12: both into Like?
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Sure, why not?
• 53:27
  Speaker 12: Because we need I don't want a young guy going
• 53:29
  Speaker 12: in there when this line is rebuilding and a new Like, no.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna play him, He's gonna sit, He's gonna watch.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: I mean you can if you don't want to play him,
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: you have that, you know, signed to Kobe Brissett and
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: draft Jad and Daniels be free. He's a free agent.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: He's always free. Now he's a mercenary.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: Now I'm just saying, like, thanks, Todd, I'm just off
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: the top of my head.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: I just threw out a veteran a way to kind
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: of do it.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, let's go to Kobe in Louisiana. What's up, Kobe, Kobe?
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Kobe Kobe, And are you have you muted yourself? No, okay,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: call back goodbye Kobe Melvin, but not the Melvin. It's
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: different Melvin in Indiana.
• 54:20
  Speaker 13: Town.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Yes, different.
• 54:24
  Speaker 13: Alrighty. So just one quick thing there. I really don't
• 54:27
  Speaker 13: see us, you know, winning the Super Bowl next year.
• 54:30
  Speaker 13: To the draft, I think we need to pick a position,
• 54:33
  Speaker 13: an important position, and start there. And I just say,
• 54:36
  Speaker 13: Marvin Harrison Juniors. I can't miss how we get that right.
• 54:40
  Speaker 13: It helps out the other guys on the elephant. I
• 54:42
  Speaker 13: know the line these work quarterback plays needs to be better.
• 54:46
  Speaker 13: I get all of it. But maybe Appendix is there
• 54:48
  Speaker 13: in the second round, or a Joe Milton is there
• 54:50
  Speaker 13: in the third or fourth round, and we can get
• 54:52
  Speaker 13: somebody like that there's more of a project and give
• 54:54
  Speaker 13: them a whipping like Marvin Harrison Junior to work with,
• 54:58
  Speaker 13: as well as Pop Douglas, as well as me be
• 55:00
  Speaker 13: signing a few other guys from the free agencies. We
• 55:03
  Speaker 13: need a lot of pieces. I just think we need
• 55:05
  Speaker 13: to pick something and get the best player at that position.
• 55:10
  Speaker 13: And to me, Marvin Harrison is the best player in
• 55:12
  Speaker 13: the draft regardless.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: A lot of people agree with you.
• 55:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks, I like that point because I mean whenever
• 55:20
  Speaker 10: people are talking about the quarterbacks available, no one has
• 55:22
  Speaker 10: a consensus.
• 55:23
  Speaker 11: Everyone argues with each other.
• 55:25
  Speaker 10: I'm not sold on an acc quarterback certainly, And I
• 55:28
  Speaker 10: don't know if Marvin Harrison is the under is the
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: decided best player, generational talent. And we're talking about building
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: this team through the draft, bringing a guy like Harrison
• 55:38
  Speaker 10: address the offensive line, and then bring in a bridge
• 55:41
  Speaker 10: guy like we're talking about Jacoby Brissett, Kyler Murray, Baker
• 55:44
  Speaker 10: like whoever it is, and just get us into a
• 55:47
  Speaker 10: place where whatever the product is on the offense is
• 55:50
  Speaker 10: at least respectable and just go from there.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: And I sounds good to me. The only thing about
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: is some of the names you name, like Kyler Murray,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: they're gonna like forty for sure.
• 56:02
  Speaker 11: For sure?
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Are you willing to him?
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: No, like you know I would.
• 56:07
  Speaker 11: I'm not sold on it. I don't think he's gonna
• 56:09
  Speaker 11: take us to the Promised Land.
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: But I think it's better than taking a chance with this,
• 56:13
  Speaker 10: like this gift of a draft, right and you're taking
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: a chance on quarterbacks.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson is the poster child for this thing where
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: you get the great quarter uh wide receiver and he's
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: just kind of wasted. But if Aaron Rodgers is, you know,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: near to form, Garret Wilson's going to get his numbers
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: He's going to get his numbers. But you're gonna win games. Yes,
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: And this is the no I'm talking about before this
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: like it was a great draft pick. Yeah, they but
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: they had a quarterback and then they decided to draft
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: the wide receiver after they had the quarterback to give
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: the quarterback a weapon.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: But it worked.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: But that's a great play.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that if Rogers comes back, now
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about the wide receiver position.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: But you just said you don't think that the Patriots
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: would pay forty million dollars for that quarterback. No, I'm
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: just saying, so then you don't have that option.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Everybody says you can't draft a great
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: quarterback before you have the receiver. I I I'm with Alex.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: If you think this guy generation the other way them
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: take them.
• 57:15
  Speaker 10: Even if you can't do anything, you have a really
• 57:18
  Speaker 10: talented player to leverage into.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Right, Marvin Harrison isn't going to be in next year's draft.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: He's in this draft, probably will be I'm just telling
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: you he probably will.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Will we be picking third? I hope not.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: You probably will be sitting for another season like this.
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're probably going to be in the top ten.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: And I don't know when was the last time there
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: wasn't a receiver that was that good that came out
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: like not one for sure?
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Like me? Well, I don't know. I mean the way
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: they're talking about Harrison, I.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Know how they're talking about him.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking there's another guy that Paul doesn't washing,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Paul washing, Marvin Harrison Jr.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: I think I think he's tremendous. Is he better than Justinjefferson?
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: The way they're talking about him again.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: I know how they're talking about is he better than him?
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'm just saying, is he better
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: than Jamar Chase?
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Out of the draft? You know, he's ranked higher than Chase.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: I know what, Like Trevor Lawrence was considered that too,
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: he hasn't been that That's true, Okay. I understand what
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: people are saying about him, and I love him. I
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: think he's a great wide receiver prospect. And Alex's plan
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: makes all the sense in the world. Doesn't matter if
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: you're not going to pay forty million, as you said,
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: they won't for a quarterback, and that's not going to
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: help you do anything if you're just going to try
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: Jacoby brissetto.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: But if you've writ Justin Fields over here.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: You probably not. The Bears aren't interested in it. They've
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: had him for three years. They have that option, they could,
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: They could keep Fields and take Marvin Harrison.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I know a But if in the event that they don't,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: that's that's a path.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: A path to what winning It's a path to being
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: the Jets.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: It's no, it's a path to a productive offense.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: No, it's not not unless you have a quarterback.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: So you don't like Justin Fields. You think he stinks.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: Justin Fields isn't on the Patriots.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Fred I said, if you can get him.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: So what are you giving up for that?
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: At whatever second round pick and Matt you know, whatever
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: you want to give them. But that's I I just
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: assume getting him as a bridge. If you're talking about
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: a bridge quarterback a third round pick, I'd just as
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: soon take a chance on Justin Fields and bringing in
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: I have no problem taking a shot with Justin Fields.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: But I don't think that that's getting you where you
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: want to go. I like Justin I think it might. Okay,
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: so the Bears are just stupid. They don't see this
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: on this opportunity that's staring them right in the face.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: They just keep the quarterback you have in draft Arvin Harrison,
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: and you were suddenly going to be a potent office.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: If the Bears were in the middle of the draft,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: let's say they were like eight to nine last year,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: they'd be sticking with Justin Fields. The thing is, they
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: have this opportunity now to get because they have the
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: high draft pick from the trade, to get the best
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: of the best. Yeah, it doesn't matter how they got
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: the pick. They have this pick staring in their face.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: And so now they have to make a decision. Do
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: we stick with Justin Field's or do we go after
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the guy that we think is the best.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: But you think it's a no brainer, I don't think
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: right there, if they did, no, why would the Bears not?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I don't And people in Chicago don't think it's.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: The Patriots have the same option. They can draft a
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: quarterback or they could go to Justin I just.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Told you, I don't think it's a no brainer. People
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: in Chicago are debating this.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, I definitely think it's a debate. I totally agree.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: So now we can get if they decide to go for,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: you know, the other quarterback, we might be able to
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: get Justin Fields, the guy that.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: I just don't understand why that is so exciting to people.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: I like Justin Fields.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: But it's all a lot better than what we got.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 12: Now.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: Is it better than Drake May? Is it better than
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think it is. We're not going to get them.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: Why not? You're picking third? You have the source.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Because the teams above us want them, they like them too.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: Then winner's the debate? I don't. You're just talking in
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: a huge circle. If it's if it's a debate, it's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: a debate. If it's not, you you can get where
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: you want to go.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: My point about the debate is that it's not like
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: they think Justin Field stinks. There's a lot of people
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: in Chicago that thinks he has a future that he's
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: been getting.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: I am intrigued by the Justin Fields thing, just because
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: I like that better than any alternative than anybody's. Now,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: if you're telling me just pick one, at three.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: The best someone that they say is if it's Jayden
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: Daniels and they just Gerard Meyo says, I like this
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: Daniels kid. I want Daniels. That would get me the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: most excited. But Plan B would be this Justin Fields
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: thing for me for me personally, right, But by no
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: means my saying, well, you get Justin Fields and Marvin
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: Harrison's your offense. I don't see it that way. I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: think I think DJ Moore is a really good player.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing about and have an off Here's
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: the thing about Justin It's not like you're stuck with him,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Like if he doesn't pan out, you're still in the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: quarterback market, right.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: But you've lost an opportunity.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: But you've but you've also got Marvin Harrison.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: I know, but you've lost an opportunity to do anything about.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: Do you think the Jets are looking at it right
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: now saying but we have Garrett Wilson. No, they're suicidal
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: because they haven't had an ability to make that pan out.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: They're also suicidal because they are quarterbacks stunk, right, you know.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: And this is again, this is the scenario that I'm
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: trying to unfold.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I know, but like I, I don't think Fields is as
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: bad as Zach Wilson.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: No, he's not as bad as Zach Wilson. You know
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: I liked I like Fields, but I'm certainly not convinced
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: he's the answer, are you? No? No, I like Fields
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: probably more than anybody in this room.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Get It would give me hope.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: I would give me hope only because it would be
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: something to improve me. Got It would give me hope
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: because I don't have to watch that anymore.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: We we got a generational receiver, and we got a
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: quarterback who might.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Be good generational receivers. I never played it down.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I hope, But that's what they're saying.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: I'm just bloodlin, you know, I know.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: And that's like you're in You're getting to like the
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: heart of like the football debate right now, which is
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: like nothing better than to roll Marvin Harrison out on
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: the field as the draft pick, and that gets the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: fan base excited and fantasy football, and you know, there.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: Are a million examples of these guys that come in
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: and they're great, and like Calvin Johnson was as good
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: as anybody I've ever seen. Like for what what do
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: you get out of it like it's just a hard
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: position to control a game from when you don't have
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: an answer at that quarterback spot. And I just look
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: at it, like, do you honestly think like? I love
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison. I've seen him play at Ohio State for
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: the last two years, just like everybody else has. I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: don't break down the film. I don't see him run, run,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: leak or stick. Okay, but I love the player. He
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: looks to me like he can get deep. He can,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: He's a precise route runner. It looks to me like
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: the total package. What do you think the chances are
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: that he's better than Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase or
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: a lot of these other you know, Tyreek Hill, these
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: elite receivers that are in the league. I think the
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: best case that you have is that he's comparable to
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: those guys.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: And if Justin Jefferson was and you knew, you know,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: if you knew now what you if you knew then
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: what you know now about Justin Jefferson and he was
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: that three, wouldn't he be worth taking?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: What do I have for quarterback?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Same scenario because if I was the if I was
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: the vituation that you are right.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: If I were the Vikings next year and I do
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: not retain Kirk Cousins, no, that wouldn't be my pick.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: Well if I if I was able to resign Cousins
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: and I have Justin Jefferson on the board at number three,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: sign me up. So if the Patriots want to do that,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: But you say that they wouldn't, and I don't think
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: you're wrong. By the way, this isn't one of my
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: trying to set front up into a trap things that
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: I like to do. I think you're right. I don't
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: think they would give forty million dollars to one of
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: these these guys, right, But that's what they cost. If
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Alex's plan is to come to fruition, right, they have
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: to pay for it. Like even Baker Mayfield is going
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: to make some decent money.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Because Baker Mayfield doesn't want to be a bridge quarterback.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's why I wish we would just spend the money.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: It feels like the most efficient way to target like
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: those three major needs you have. I don't know, especially
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: with how deep the guards are that every not that
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 10: I know.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: And I really really like Marvin Harrison before this gets like,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: I just don't want them without a quarterback.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: About our discussion, right, imagine what it's happening right now
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: down in the Patriots personnel and scouting, and someone's got
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: to decide.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: I'd like to think there's someone that actually knows talent
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: and evaluates these things, not like Paul who kind of
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: likes Jayden Daniels but is worried about his passing but
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: really likes straight I'd like to think someone that's actually
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: a professional at this. But even there's a little bit
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: more money idea.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not talking about guys in football sets,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: but the Jeremiahs. And there's no consensus there about Drake
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: may or Jayden and Daniel.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you the consensus. It's Williams May that's the consensus.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: The consensus.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: But the reality is that one or two of these
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: guys might work out and be a star.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: Like one or two absolutely that might absolutely, just like
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be five wide receivers taken and one or
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: two of them are going to be really good. I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: like neighbors. I don't want to like me.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to I like.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: I always pronounced that I finally got it, But you know,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: neighbors It's like, I nothing against Marvin Harrison, but like
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: I'm super good too. I think all three they were
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: gonna be really good receivers taken they were going It
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: just happens every year. There's a lot of good receivers,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: but you're not going to get a chance to take
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: the you know, going down the list to get you
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: can get a tackle, you can get a wide receiver.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: You're not like the whole Michael Pennix in the second
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: round thing doesn't excite me far.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: No, And I'll go back to what I said at
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: the top of the show. If they like Jayden Daniels them,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: they have to take that.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: If Arthur is right, yeah, you got to take them.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: They have to take And then you could be wishy
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: and not washy.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Tony's in Canada. What's up, Tony?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: I really did like that line that.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: I wish for him.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Tony, Hi, guys.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 22: Yeah, it's certainly an interesting conversation about receivers. I called
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 22: him about actually about the coaching staff. But wouldn't it
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 22: be something if we drafted Harrison? And also Jerry Rice's
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 22: kid is in so can you imagine our receiving room
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 22: with names like Harrison and Rice, And there's been a
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 22: lot of news lately on the media about how the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 22: Patriots are having trouble building up there, like finding an
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 22: oc offensive coordinator, because I've been hearing that it's new
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 22: Enland's not really an attractive place to come to. It's
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 22: a challenge for someone maybe to take that position and
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 22: finding someone to run mcvay's offense or something like that.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 22: But something that struck me as being kind of odd
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 22: as far as I know, and correct me if I'm mistaken,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 22: there's no limit as far as like a cap spending
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 22: for your coaching staff and if Craft really wants to
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 22: fix things around. And it's easy for me to say,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 22: if I was Craft, I'm not spending my own money.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 22: But if there's no limit in terms of how much
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 22: you can spend to build a staff, even if it
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 22: wasn't that attractive position, why couldn't you just basically offer
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 22: something over and above, like, you know, double whatever.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: You could what they did McDaniels to keep its.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 22: Really not that big of a deal. I don't know,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 22: that's my idea, And I'll listen, guys.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Thanks Ton. I hope they do that with offensive
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: line coach. You know, I'll get the best one. You
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: think Clem's going, I don't know where is he? Where
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: is I think he's think he's staying. I think I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: think the guys that are under contractor staying.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just real quick.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: Diana Rassini reported that Bill did was considered for Washington.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: They spoke, but he had some supporters, but that they went.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: With I highly question that report. High. Why do you
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: question it because it runs extremely counter to something somebody
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: told me.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, and that's something unless unless somebody is Josh Harris,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: someone who spoke directly to Josh Harris.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: Really, yes, unless there was like a travels in circles,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 7: he would never realizewhere some.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Of these straw men.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: Man. Just because just because you're not allowed to actually
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: report on things when you work for the team doesn't
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: mean that you don't try to still beat in the bushes.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: No stuff. Anyway, there is always a possibility that when
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson left Washington at the Altar early in the week,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: there was a my opinion, if that's true, If that,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: and let's face it, few national reporters have had more
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: misinformation out there than that particular one. If that's true,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: my guess would be that Bill's camp reached out to
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: Washington after the news of the Ben Johnson thing. And
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: that's the talk.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Do you know what?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, they started it. I like that.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: I just I don't from what I was told, I
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: don't think there was a lot of interest in a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: seventy two year old coach. They want to start over
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: in Washington. Now, I don't think dan Quinn is all
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: that young either, So about the hat backwards? How old
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: is dan Quinn? You know? So maybe they did. Maybe
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: they had a change of course when Ben Johnson stiffed him.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: See so Ben Johnson.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: Right right, I mean it was like he was that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: like someone's like dance recital. It was only fifty three. Yeah,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: that's that's really Maybe he was out of dance recital
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: and didn't properly acknowledge someone's niece.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Uh, Trent, is that right, Trented?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 15: Yes?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, where's Holston?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 12: Uh?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 23: It's right next to the Cambridge, It's right next to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 23: the our box center.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I never heard of Holston.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 23: Yeah, but first time caller, a longtime listener. You guys
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 23: are great. I think I'm three guys. What I think
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 23: is a curve ball. But my question is, since the
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 23: UFL is coming up starts in March as in June.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 23: I know Patriots, I don't know Drag have the same mindset.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 23: But Patriots are good at finding talent that maybe other
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 23: teams look past. And I know the UFL will be
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 23: full of players that couldn't make an NFL team or
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 23: undrafted players that just maybe didn't.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 19: Have what it took.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 23: Do you think it'll be a viable source?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: So I think you're going to see guys come out
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: of that. You know, not a lot, but you know.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: You'll get guys. You won't get any two or three
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: a year, you won't get any impact players, but you'll
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: get some guys that end up being the fifty third
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: man on a roster and playing special teams in the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: back up.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Trent, And when you say you
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: know the Patriots are good at finding guys that you
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: know they used to be like, no matter what, no
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: matter if the Patriots are fill in the blank, you
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: have to start over. Now. We don't know what the
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Patriots are good.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: Are they any different at it than everybody else?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: But they did have success, you know a lot of
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: success undrafted guys and things like that, but right everybody
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: else right now, they're starting over with all of that.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: To me, that's so like down the bottom of the
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: wrong like trenches they got.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: They need talent.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: They need guys who move the needle and like you know,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: finding that needle in a haystack, who can come in
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: and be like a solid.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: You can get a Jeremiah Farms. Yeah, I know you're
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: not going to get Christian Barmore out of the UFL.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Like I know I will not be watching.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: Oh I probably will because I'm a degenerate. But you
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: know that's just the way it is.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: What about can I just throw out Calvin Ridley's name,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: because like we haven't really talked about free agency much
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: at all, and like I.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: Just I would.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: He's a really good player that you know is gonna
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: hit free agency.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, they've got money to spend.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: It's like, how don't just spread it all around, Like
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: get a guy like Calvin Ridley instead of Kendrick Bourne
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: Punk plug him into.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: That, do you think? But do you think Calvin Ridley
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: would be interested in signing with Patrios?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 9: No?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: Maybe interested some money.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: We got the money, but the money is probably going
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: to be to get Daniels pretty.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: Ch I try.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's you know, it's a fair point, but
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, you know that that's the kind of guy
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: I would probably you don't have.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: And Daniels, why not not yet because the draft isn't
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: until May.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, don't worry. We got we got you. We're
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: gonna it's not just gonna be gonna be.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: Uh No, I don't know.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: I just don't mean it's we jump right into the draft,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: and there's so you know, and there's just so many
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: things that could happen in free agency and guys like
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: that that I feel like, you know, of course, he
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: might say, look, I'm gonna go somewhere with a quarterback
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: who's established and.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe Kansas City. Yeah, sure, I mean,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: you know, possible.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: But at the same time that those are the kind
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: of moves that they have to be trying to make,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: like those are the stuff that's going to move the needle.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: And then you know that, I mean, you can't sign
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: a bunch of middle class guys again, like you need
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: some talent. You need people that are gonna get fans
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: excited here. And what about I thought about Pittman. Yeah,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: I mean I'm not against him either.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I look Ridley better.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I like you.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: You know, Higgins is at the top, but like Ridley,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: I think I.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: Did some digging, but I had him on my short list.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: I just Pittman's numbers were better than I thought they were,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: so I think maybe he's gonna end up being more
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: expensive than I thought.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: Curtis Samuel's the other one I kind of liked.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like him, but that I mean, that's the
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: kind of guys that I think level but.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Been talked about like a couple of years ago coming here,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: you know, Patriots interested in him.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I you know, there's just a lot of.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Things that they can do, Like, you know, where's the food, Matt,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know, would you guys go to a new
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: place today or something?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 10: Uh?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got you gotta stay stay in the regulars.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Andre's in Tennessee. Andre. He couldn't hang on job.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: I've heard good things about this place. All right, Well,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: we'll see Paul. Clearly I already screwed up the orders.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's see a lot of emails coming
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: in web radio take Yeah, I think that's going to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: be Hi, Jack writes in I'm curious as to what
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Paul's ideal first pick for us would be. Getting Caleb
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: Williams seems unrealistic. I wish you washed what best case
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: scenario if the cards fell into place. Sometimes it feels
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: like he doesn't want anyone.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: No, I like Williams in May, I would take you
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: the one of those, and I would take Daniels. I
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: could be definitely. Arthur did a good job of like
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: sort of selling me on on on Daniels. I never
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: im like, I personally think he needs work as a passer,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: but I didn't disagree with anything you said about him
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: as a runner. And I think if you come into
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: the league with an elite skill set, you can kind
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: of learn the rest like I. I. Yeah, that's why
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: I'm wishy washy, like I could be talked into it.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: It just bummed me.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: But I like all three of them. I do.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was a better runner coming out
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: of college. Michael Vicker, Mike Vick, nobody was Michael Vick
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Nate in Northeastern Pennsylvania. I'm pretty sure the news drop
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: between shows, so I'm not positive you guys discussed what
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: are everyone's feelings on the booty arrest.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: We didn't talk about right, but I don't think we
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: did talk about it. We didn't talk. We didn't Good job.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 11: I think it broke right after the show Thursday.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: Good job steering the ship.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: Like what Pauls was talking about, Like his logging was
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: like Kaishan Bohan boy oh one in seven, Yeah, you
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: gotta get rid of it.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, was that all nil money that he was using.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: God, I don't know what mode he was using, but
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: he was betting on himself.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 10: The thing is he was making fake names like the
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 10: dis like the names would be fake, but then the
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 10: username would be like just keep it.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: So he says it's like John Smith, but but it
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: says at Kashan Butte.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: Over almost nine thousand bets he placed, including some on
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: his own team. I agree. I agree with Mike, He's go,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: you gotta go. I'm kind of surprised. I mean, I
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: guess they're in the off season.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: They're going to just let it kind of linger for
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: a little bit before they have to make a decision.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: But I think you're going to see that happening more. Yeah,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: what do you mean, just getting more more rope?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: They stuck by Jack.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Uh Mike writes in he says trade down is a must.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: The draft is loaded and they only have seven picks.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: They need talent and players.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: The draft is not loaded. I think there's strong positions. Yeah,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: and what so, just as a point of comparison, and
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: Mike and I talked about this a little lot. Fair
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: people are talking about this draft that there's only about
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: four or five rounds of players. There is so much
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: fewer underclassmen that because of the nil because of COVID,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: you know, the last remnants of COVID, that there's a
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: lot of guys. I think they only had like thirty
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: players declare as underclassmen is usually over one hundred. So
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: I think your boy Jim Naggy at the Senior Bowl
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: opined that day three picks are going to be undrafted
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: free agents of the past. This draft is not loaded.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: Now it is strong at the positions that you need. Quarterback, wide, receiver, tackle,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: they're supposed to be all three of those spots are
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: supposed to be deep.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Yep, Jared and Vermont. I feel like I'm going crazy.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: I have zero interest in drafting a quarterback in the
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: first round, no matter who you pick, it's doomed on
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: this team. How many crappy teams have to draft the
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: shiny object just for it to blow up a year
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: or two later before people learn trade down, trade Jude
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: on stockpile picks so that you can pick up quarterback eventually, hopefully.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: Well, that's my argument that I have with Felger. You know,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: it's like, you know, make a trade with someone who
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: you think is going to be bad. I go, why
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: so you can be in the top you know, picking
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: in the top three again next year? So you can
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: trade it because you won't pick you won't pick the
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: talent because you don't believe in talent. Like I just
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: don't understand the notion of quarterbacks bust, so don't take one. Well,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: somewhere along the line you have to get it. Teams
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: that are good that drafted their quarterbacks. I mean, I'm
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: sure that these are the same people that have said
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: there's no way ever Kansas City should be moving up
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: twenty spots in the first round to take Patrick Mahomes
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: or Buffalo should be moving up, you know, from the
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: bottom of the first round to the number seven to
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: take Josh Allen. But how do you how do you
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: do it if you don't make that kind of a.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: Move, and it's Fred's think it's conviction.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: You know, Cincinnati was right for taking Joe Burrow number
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: one overall. Those umber one picks never work until they do. Like,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: I get it. Like there, it's a risk, and quarterback
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: is a bigger risk than all the other spots. But
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: you can't go into a pick and saying I'm not
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: gonna take it because I'm gonna blow it anyway.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Hire good coaches, spend money in your evaluations, and trust
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: your and the information that you get.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: And how many of these guys, Like do you think
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield's any good? Fred, Yes, you do, right, yep.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: So he's taken with the number one overall pick. I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: don't think he's as good as you.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's that good.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying you think he's pretty good. Yeah,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: not everybody else. See, you can't take Baker Mayfield. Well, no,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: if you did it right, he'd probably be better for
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: you if you if you didn't have four offensive coordinators
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: in his first four seasons in Cleveland, maybe he wouldn't
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: have been a mess by the time he left the Browns. Yeah,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: you know, Matthew Stafford. Don't tell me Matthew Stafford wasn't
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: deserving talent wise or the number one overall pick. He's
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: been a really good player for a long time. The
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: fact that the Lions couldn't figure it out with him,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: he's on the Lions. He looks pretty good now.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Yep. Great Robin san Diego via Connecticut. Watching the games
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: last week, something stood out to me. Many people are
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: talking about coaching and discipline, but what about playmakers? Yes,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: the Lions and Ravens have many self inflicted wounds, but
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: I also saw Kelsey and McCaffrey have game changing style plays.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: I bring this up because of the drum beat for
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: building inside out in New England. I don't know which
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: way is best, but it seemed to me that self
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: inflicted wounds aside. The teams with the playmakers are the
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: teams that advanced. I understand that this might be a
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: multi year view of team building, but boy, with the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: internal hires, inexperienced coaches, and prospects of linemen high in
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: the draft, it seems like some red Sox vibes.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: Oh that's bad. I think it's both. I think there
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: was plenty of playmakers on all four teams last week.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, Jamison Williams looked like a pretty dynamic playmaker
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: to me. Nice touchdown, he touched the ball three times,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: it was in the end zone twice. But Josh Reynolds
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: dropped passes and they lost. You know, McCaffrey was great,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: Kelsey was great. Zay Flowers made all kinds of plays
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: and also did some really stupid things. But he, I mean,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: he didn't. He didn't make any plays in that game.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: The bomb that he caught for a touchdown, the scramble drill.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: He was also one of the reasons they were still
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: There was a lot of playmaking done in those games
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: by the teams that lost.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Gibbs, I mean, Gibbs was remember last year when
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: they picked Gibbs what you know, But same thing.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: It's just, you know, he made a play and any fumble.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: He's a good player.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: He's a really good player. But that's that's my point.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: I think that's what Mike was trying to say.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: But it's just, you know, I think it's that there's
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: no one way to do anything, and you know, it's
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: it's that that pick got some controversy, but he was
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: you know he's developing into a stud to what they need,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: and you know it's it's that's why it's like you
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: can throw all these comparisons of everything.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: And that's why I say, just if it's Marvin Harris,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: if Alex's playing comes to fruition, I'd be fine with
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: that because if he's a really good like no, if
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: he's a really good player, that's got to be your
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: only goal. Fred I got to come out of this draft.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: If I pick somebody at three, he needs to be
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: a really good player, right, And Mike is right. There's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: a million different ways you can structure your team and
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: get the pieces first, last, second, whatever. But if you
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: don't hit, you know, like Jamiir Gibbs is a good player.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: Now I would have taken something else, still would take
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: something else, but he hit. So the Lion's not going
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: to look at that and say, man, we had that opportunity,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: blew it. Yeah, you know, Jack Campbell, I think a
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: little differently about that first round pick. Yeah, I don't
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: think he's a hit.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: And the thing that I can't get away from is just.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: That if you really truly.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: Looked at the board at three of what they should
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: take emotions aside, like you know, it's probably Marvin Harrison.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's probably the second best player in this draft.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: And it's hard to you know, no matter how much
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: you want to say they need to protect the quarterback
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: that you know, it's like he is the best player
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: available when they're gonna probably be picking, and you have
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: to you have to at least consider that, you know,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: maybe somebody like that gives you a little bit more
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: juice to bring a quarterback in or something like that.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: You know, and I know you're Dorman man, but or
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: fans too.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: So it's if that's the rationale, If that was if
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: that's what they came away with, I think I would
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: be on board with that. If they said, we had
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: our choice between Drake May, Jylen Daniels and Marvin Harrison
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: and Joe Walt or whoever else, and we thought significant
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: by a significant margin, Marvin Harrison Junior was the best player.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know how anybody argues with that. Throw throw
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: the rest out, throw out. You know what do you need?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: And know you know Calvin in or you know with
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: Calvin Johnson, you know, like all the all the things
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: of the past that have not worked out and you know.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: It's again, I would say, put it. I would say
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: my same argument against those that I just used for
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: the quarterback. Just because it didn't work, it doesn't mean
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: it's never gonna For.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Years, the Patriots are drafting linebackers until they got Rob Gronkowski.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, but you don't stop doing it because you
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: know Dan Graham wasn't worth a first round pick or
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Ben Watson wasn't worth a first round pick.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: Well, it's just it's hard.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: It's hard for me even to sit here and be like, well,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: that's not how teams are built. Like you have to
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: get a tackle, like you that's the it's one of
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: the trenches, and that's you know you have. I got
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: to protect the quarterback, and you know it's it's it
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: would be easy to get pace all that.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: It's a good case STUF like San Francisco with all
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: those draft picks.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Tyler in New York City, Hello Alex and others.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: We're now in the rest. I want the Patriots now.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: You feel like I want to pay coach the.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Draft Marvin Harrison. Will it be smarter move getting a quarterback? Maybe?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: But I've watched decades of Patriots football with a really
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: good quarterback. But I've watched almost no Patriots football starring
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: a true number one receiver Randy Mows. But no, I
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: get it. Marvin Harrison Junior will be fun to watch.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: He's going to do things in a Patriots uniform that
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen before. Sure, those things might happen on
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: a six and eleven team as where we're building, but
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Is he going to be fine
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: with it? I view the NFL and the Patriots as
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: a form of entertainment. When Brady was on the team,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: my entertainment was maximized by competing for Super Bowls every year.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Without that aspect of this entertainment being available to Patriots
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: fans these days, I have to look elsewhere, and where
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: better to look than the best wide receiver prospect of
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: the last several drafts. Patriots football has not been fun
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: to watch for several years. I think Marvin Harrison Junior
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: can make it fun. I'm open.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: I'm open. That's an interesting argument, though it really is. Yeah,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: like we could be six and eleven, but at least
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: will be entertaining.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Let's see Allison in Chicago trade a second round pick
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: for fields draft Harrison or another star receiver in Draft
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: O line fields is likely better than the quarterbacks in
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: this draft other than Caleb Williams. Also, as to being
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: the world's original podcast, they will say you were my
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: first podcast. They found you in twenty ten and have
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: been listening ever since, other than a few episodes after
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler was benched the Super Bowl because I was
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: so angry with the Patriots and I needed a break.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for keeping us engaged all year long
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots and other topics. You're welcome, Alison. Yeah,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: so there you go.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: This is gonna be I usually love the off season shows.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: He's not gonna speak grind. It's gonna be a grind
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: between Caleb Williams, Drake May, Jalen Daniels, Marvin Harrison Junior.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: Probably not.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: Do you feel like Marvin Harrison Senior was kind of
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: soft though?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: He like, oh god, no, he was great. Oh really yeah,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: it was great, Like I don't know, I guess I'm
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: just thinking of the games here.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: Well, he's like they just destroyed him and he.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: Was doing then what a lot of the smaller quarterbacks
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: do now is they get down, they don't take the hit.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: And people said oh, you know, he doesn't go for
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: the extra yards, you know when contact comes. But he
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: was smart, like you know, it's.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: Like Eugene Wilson like spearing him with like like a
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: missile like.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: That was like, I know exactly, I know exactly the
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: player you're talking about.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: He was very good. And what am I incorrectly? He
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: was fast, but he wasn't like a blazer. He was
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: just a really good route runner. Smart.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't remember thinking of him as like
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: a tyree kill no, right, but he was great.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: Kind of the same guys, right, I mean, just similar
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: in the mold smart and.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: You know they were in tune with Peyton Manning and
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: I'm sure, but I do wonder like how much Manning
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: made them because then they lost them. And he was
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: the same with Pete the Waider and Foster, right, Pete
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: the Waiter, Khan that Peter in case you went one room,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: Pete the Wader.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Christian writes in I know you guys said, that's good.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: What's that Pete the Wader?
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: That was that was your line?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: I know the credit. I know you guys said that
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: you are wishy washy with some quarterbacks. I've been watching
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: the full games and breaking down film with some of
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: my college teammates when we played, and I think the
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: quarterback order goes like this.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: What do you think he has number one Caleb Williams.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: Nope, number one Daniels. He says he's a top three talent.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Number two was Caleb top three talent, and number three
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: is May a five to ten pick talent. Wow.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: All right, So he's down on Marv not.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Saying my opinion is right. But if I would you guys,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: I would watch the full games of guys and think
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: you might see that Drake May is being overhyped. Watching
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: individual plays doesn't necessarily show what actually happened in the game.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: He's right there, you.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: See from what I've watched of May, though, I have
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: a little bit of intrigue, like what we talked about
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: with Marvin Harrison, that he's kind of interesting and fun
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: to watch, you know, and it's not always great, but
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm, you know, watching him throw left handed passes,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: and you know he's athletic, he's got a big arm,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: so I mean I see some kind of entertainment factor
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: from him.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And to me, it's not about necessarily breaking down
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: the games like it's a skill set and what they
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: bring and how they play. Like if you go to
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: North Carolina too years ago and watch Drake May it
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: looks a lot different than it did last year. Yeah,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: a lot different. He was much better two years ago.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan in the world,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: rites in says, draft a quarterback. If we and he sucks,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: take a quarterback withhe our high first pick the next year.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: Repeat until you have a franchise quarterback.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: This is my That's where I though where I land. Like,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: if you miss, just take one the next year, do
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: it again, keep rolling it.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: Let's see Mike and Charlotte. If the Patriots draft a
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: quarterback at three, they need to spend the next two
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: picks on o line. You can have all the weapons
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: in the world, but if the quarterback is on his back,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: maybe you can find some serviceable receivers and free agency
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: to get by for this year and focus on wide
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: receiver in next year's draft.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't need to overdo it at tackle,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: like I mean, I would like to get a couple,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: but I mean, to me, what kind of makes the
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: most sense would be to take the quarterback to take
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: the receiver to take the next best tackle, because there'll
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: be another good tackle left in the second round, and
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: then in the third round.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: Hit one of these receivers. You know, just that like
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: meet to me, late second round, third round. That's where
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: you do.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: The same thing with the quarterback every year. Let's just
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: continue to take a couple guys. You know, you look
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: at Green Bay, you look at what they've done in Detroit,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: like these teams that have just continued to throw mid
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: round selections at wide receiver, at tight end, at running back,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: the weapons spots without overinvesting too much of the high
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: end draft capital, and and you'll get a bunch of them,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: you know, And then I don't know, there's just and
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 5: I don't want this to become like we need we
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: want to have a bunch of twos and threes. But
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 5: like I see appeal to not being a team with
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: we have one superstar stud receiver on the outside. And
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: then it's kind of meh, you know, like I personally,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: just if you're constructing middle, well you just I'd like
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: to have where you got a bunch of different kinds
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: of weapons that everybody's pretty good taking a start.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: But I want but I need the other guys too,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: you know, with with Mike like I would take you know,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would argue if you ended up
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: with like Watson, Reid and uh yeah jobs and wait
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: in Wicks like these are all like Day two and
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: Day three picks. Ye, Like, I don't think anybody would like, well,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: you know what they really need they need a star. No,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: they're all pretty good players. Yeah, and it works.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: And Watson has the body type that you know.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: I think I think he can be the star he
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: ever stays in training camp, you know, this year. But yeah,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: but he was also basically a first round he was
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: like the thirty four.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: But you know, whether it's on offensive defense, in some
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: positions you need guys that they're just better than the
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: other guys and the other team. Yeah, you know you
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: need some of those, like everybody can't be better than everyone.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: Do we think of the interior of the offensive line.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: I'm just offense putting it out of my mind right
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: now for.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: The page, Like do you think that they'd be all
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: right with strange Strange Andrews. So with Mafi and Jake Andrews,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: that that.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: Core of five, who is my offensive line coach.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: Adrian Klemp, But what do you think of those those
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: five guys? So, in other words, if you can get
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: a tackle, if you could get Joe Walt and he hits,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: is your offensive line Okay.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: It's better? Yeah, it could be.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think you'd be fine. It's it's yeah,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's fine. I think the problems
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: with the offensive line are greatly exacerbated by the lack
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: of weapons on offense. I think the offensive line takes
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: all the heat. They weren't good. Not saying that they were.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: They weren't good. I don't think we're eating. Yeah, that's
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: pizza time. Man's apparently pizza time never arruns.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: That's pizza time.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: Work not find the delivery driver.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: Uh well, we got plenty of calls and emails, so
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: it's not like we have nothing to do. Uh Andre's
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: and Tennessee. Uh you were off the line last time there.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: Now yeah, I'm here.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 15: So I have a question. So there's a quarterback that
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 15: no one is talking about that was one of the
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 15: top quarterbacks in the n c A this year. Jordan's
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 15: Travis Yep. How do y'all feel about drafting Marvin Harris
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 15: and their number three and then some some late round pick.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 15: Go get Jordan Travis, let him heal up and let
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 15: him be our quarterback for next year. And with the
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 15: British quarterback this year.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Now, I could be educate me on this guy.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: Florida State. Florida State didn't make the playoffs.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: I like him. I think he's a little small, but
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: he's a good player. I wouldn't be supposed to taking
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: the day three pick. I wouldn't.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, yes, you got to draft the quarterback no
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: matter what, whether it's three overall, I mean i'd be
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: I'd be down for anybody, down for anybody. I mean
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: I don't there's certainly guys I don't like.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: What was his.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: Injury, had a a cl injury.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: He's small, he's small, Yeah, yeah, he's.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 24: A good player.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 15: Murdered wrong.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: Do you want him? You could probably get him. I
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: don't know that.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess because we're just we're flirting with Jayden
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: Daniels and Drake May.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: It's like guys just.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: That that they have the tank, like they have tangible
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: things that are like not going to change.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: It's like with Mack you knew he was always gonna
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: not have that elite skill set, and it's like, at
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: least you got something to work with.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Swear.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: That's why I.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: Swear that people and not just here in New England,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: but people are so starved for the next quarterback that
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: we overrate these guys. Yeah.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: No, that's it's a huge thought of mine. Fred, It's
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's and I think it's just like NFL
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: teams too. I think that the whole league does that.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: It's like we talked, You get to the point and
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: you need a quarterback and this is the guy that's
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: sitting there and that's where he's supposed to go and
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: you feel great about him.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Not really, but you got to.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: Guy hit it in one of those years where the guys,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: the guys time.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Seana, Vancouver, Hey, Sean, lots of Canadian Hey.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 21: You know, Mike, I agree with you about the free
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 21: agents that we should talk about that, but I think first,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 21: you know, you got to bring back some of your
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 21: own players before you sign others. And the two that
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 21: have the top of the Patriots list players I'd want
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 21: them to bring back as Ollenue Henry, and then there's
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 21: some others that I didn't get them have good money.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 21: And in terms of Calvin Ridley, I think he will
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 21: be the top target because I see Higgins and Pittman
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 21: going back to their respective teams to the Bengals and
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 21: nicolets uh this year. So I think he'll be the
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 21: top free agent prize. And in terms of the drafts
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 21: that those any of those three quarterbacks, I think it
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 21: would be fine. It's just if you if you do
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 21: get Daniels, you know, you don't want to try and
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 21: force him to be a pocket passer, because then you're
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 21: trying to fit a square peg in a round hole
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 21: or by versa.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 15: He's with you, not can be that.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: I agree with that. You have to let him try
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: to play like his style, like they let Lamar play. Yeah,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: they don't force you to play from the pocket all
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: the time. It's got the limpers.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 21: Yeah, we're gonna have. We're gonna have. We're going to
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 21: struggle as well, So we got to be patient because
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 21: you can.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks, Sean.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: I know I agree with Sean. I don't think you
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: can't just try to say like we're gonna run the
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: old Patriots offense with Tom Brady and have him be
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: in the pocket all the time.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 10: No, that's should be burned to the ground, regardless, burning violence, fire.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: No literally, I'm not talking burning.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: People with these guys.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: I like them, but you don't speaking.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: You don't have a greyhound as a pet unless you
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: have a big backyard. Oh yeah, let him run, Let
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: him run.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: Those are weird looking dogs. They're giant, like sleep.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who adopted.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: My sister in law had an adopted greyhound before she
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: married my brother. You and I are similar dog guys.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: I do not like that. I don't like dogs. I
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: didn't get too close. Dogs bite, dogs bite you. Yeah,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: I've been bitten, a little afraid. My sister got bit
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: in the face when she was little.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: What's the saying, I.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 11: Don't I don't trust a person that doesn't like a dog,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 11: but I trust a dog.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: And I don't trust people that treat animals like their humans.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: I've been punched. I've been punched, But I don't hate
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: all humans.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can talk to you can talk to humans.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: You're going to see it coming with humans. Here's kind
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: of not true.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: You know, you gotta love dogs.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: I like him from afar. I would just agree with
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: the point on Hunter Henry. I would definitely resign Hunter Henry.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: There's just nothing out there at tight end that there's
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: not a great tight end class. There's just nothing out there.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: I don't you know.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: I think that he's limited.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: I've always thought he can't really block at a plus level,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: but he can play. He's a tight end that can
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: play in this league. I would sign something. I would
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 5: I would make an effort.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: Was a captain, he's a leader.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Just let everybody go, Yeah, wait a minute, is your
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: family pressuring you to get a dog?
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: Not anymore?
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: Fred, I've been parrying for so long that I'm like,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm ahead of the game.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: We get it to a point where like no one's
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: mentioned it for like a couple of months.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: See, that's why he doesn't like dog.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 10: He doesn't want to have one because wait until the
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 10: kids are on summer vacation and they're bored.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: That's that's usually when it comes about.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: But I don't know, I just like, I don't need
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: another thing in my life to take care of and
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: to like why, I'm honest.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 10: About it and realistic, because the worst is when someone
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 10: gets a dog and they're just not at all prepared
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 10: to have a dog.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I you know, they're cute and I'd
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: like I'd love to have a puppy, and I'm sure
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 5: I would be home the best friends.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: But right now, I'm just like, I like my life.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: My kids are older. I don't have to change diapers anymore. Right,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: I'm off of the like I got to get up
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: and mark the dog.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: I don't need that in my life. That is why
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: I would never have a dog. And it drives me crazy.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 4: When I'm out a lot with my brother in law
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: and sister in law, they have to go home. I
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: always have to leave early. I gotta go the dog,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: the dog, the dog. Fourth of July. The dog, the fireworks.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: The dog is freaking out like it just it's like
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: having another baby. It is, and there's a responsibility with
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: that that I kind of I agree with that. I
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: respect Mike for saying I don't want that response right now,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: and that's fair. It doesn't make it like a selfish
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: You don't not like dog.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: No, no, I mean generally, but I am a little
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 5: bit like Paul in that you know, you don't know
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: what they're thinking.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: To me, it's not like I'm not going to go
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: stick my face.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Somebody's dogs hanging out with it, like a toy poodle
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: a little, a little Actually there was a ferocious poodle
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: more than right behind him.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 10: Not poodles, yes, but like a multi pooh or something
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 10: that's multie, like a Maltese.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: Or like a loss.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 4: I could say a really bad joke, congratulations.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's just going to what he was going
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 5: to say when I when I lived in LA, one
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 5: of our friends, you know, everybody has to adopt a dog,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: and one of our friends, Jamie, she she's like, oh,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 5: I adopted this dog. His name is Stewie, you know.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: Named after family guy.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: The freaking dog was just like nipping everybody, like you know,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: it was a rescue and so it had trauma and yeah,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 5: you know, anytime you got too near, it got too loud.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: You know, this little like cross thing of a of
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: a what HuaHua.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: You know they all have like like poor chihuahua's like
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: they're just getting mated with everything left in Get the
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 5: chia over here, that right, that baby poole something pools
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: like anything. Yeah, poor poodles too, those things just like
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: they have you know, they get a Golden Retriever and
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 5: poor poodles, Like.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: That's what you need to get the best dog in
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: Golden Well, that's we have one briefly when I was
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 4: a kid.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: And then labs.
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  Speaker 3: I've never owned.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 5: What's the difference between a lab and I think they're
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 5: they're so.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Longer. Yeah, but I had a black lab.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my neighbor had a black black Lab that I
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: grew up with.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: He was great, just loved everybody, just so yeah, it
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: was so good.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: We had a we had a Golden Retriever puppy when
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: I was a kid, and it's happened to coincide with
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: me and my sisters all got chicken pox at the
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: same time.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: So my mom couldn't deal.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 5: She's like, no, that's it, and just like gave like
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: we like bought the dog.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: You know, it's like a whole thing.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: It was on Kate cod actually and no, yeah, we
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: took bridget.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: We had a joke with our lab like if a
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: you know, a robber ever came in, here's the silverware.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: That's what we said.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 10: You know, you know, helpfrigerators right over there would lick
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 10: the robber to death.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: You would lick him to death.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's nice. I would say, it's more like
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: what Mike is saying. I'm not a dog person more
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: so than like, oh, Paul hates dogs. I'm not a
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: big dog guy. Like when you go to a house
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: and then we have a dog and like hello, and
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: you let him your hair, and I'm frightened out of
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: my mind in that scenario. Would so be the.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 10: Type of guy that his family was on board. They
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 10: got like a little dog that he was like, I
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 10: don't stupid in it. But then at the end of
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 10: the day he's on the couch.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: That's what everybody says. So that's that's a thousand percent.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: But it's the same thing with the stupid cat. Here's
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: the cat's buddy now, right me? Yeah, you know at
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: night when we're watching TV, the cat sits on my lap, right,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: And I would have been the one like I don't
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: but I think, oh, but we've we've gotten really lucky.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: We had Beth had a cat when I met her,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 4: and now this is our second cat, and they're both
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: almost exactly the same. They like little dogs, only they're
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: not gonna get to be these huge things that need
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: to be like walked and all the work that goes
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: through them. They're just companions, all right again at the
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 4: same time. Then it ends, and I can't deal with
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: that emotionally. If I'm a baby. That's a hard thing.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: It is all right. I will take a quick well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Pulse Foods here for you. Then
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  Speaker 6: As I think back over the past few seasons, I
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  Speaker 26: And we're back with another quick Thursday edition of the
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 26: PU Halftime Show. I am joined by Alex reoccurring guests
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 26: as always.
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  Speaker 3: Gotta get used to me.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 26: Wow, guys, there is no trivia today because I did
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 26: this pretty last minute.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: So you know what happens.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 10: Yeahs came to my five minutes ago. It was like,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 10: can you come down and record with me? And I
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 10: was like, no, I'm kind of busy, and then he
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 10: was like please, So here we are.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 26: We're like, also running out of PAP trivia, so I'll
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 26: do a deep dive into that. But anyways, we're gonna
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 26: start off with a couple start bench cuts like we
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 26: always do, So Alex Start bench Cut.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: I haven't done one of these in a minute, Christian.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 26: McCaffrey, Isaiah Pacheco, and Jamineer Gibbs. That's the only one
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 26: for the NFC. I haven't for the n FC title game.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: Start McCaffrey.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, it's tough.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: Start McCaffrey bench Pa Checko. I guess Scott Gibbs.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 26: It's tough though, Yeah, I'm doing I am starting my
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 26: my camp. Camp buddy Christian McCaffrey. Good friends with him,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 26: Isaiah Pacheco benching him because he runs like a kid
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 26: trying on his sneakers and Gibbs. It's tough though, because
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 26: he's nasty.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 26: Number two, we got some halftime performers from the past
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 26: three years. All right, we got Usher, who's this year
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 26: hasn't gone yet, yep, Rihanna and Doctor Dre.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 8: Oh.
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  Speaker 24: I love the Doctor Dre.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: That one was just I'm surprised you didn't have the
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: Shakira jal one on this. I just did three okay, okay,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: m okay, start Doctor Trey.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 10: I thought that was so fun, and then just everyone
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 10: he brought out it was so nostalgic. I have to
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 10: bench Rihanna, which feels blasphemous.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was good too, And then you just don't know.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: What us for yet.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: Usher. I'm sorry.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 10: I know Usher is an absolutely talented performer. I know
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 10: he's gonna shut it down, but I'm just I have
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 10: a bias to Rihanna.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 26: We'll circle back on this in a week to see
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 26: what happened, and then this one, which segues into our
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 26: next topic, The Wags. Taylor Swift Kristen used is that
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 26: her first name for sick? Yep, Christen and Olivia Coppo
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 26: the wags.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: Of the Super Bowl. Yeah, oh we're leaving some out, sorry, Britt, but.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we thought you were going to be a mutual.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 10: Okay, So now I could go about this a couple
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 10: of ways, like from the perspective of like a player
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 10: dating one of these women, or just me. Yeah, okay,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 10: you guys know I'm swifty, but I'm not a swifty swifty.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not one of the crazy ones.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 10: Okay, I am going to start Taylor Swift because you
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 10: have to. I'll have people picketing outside of this office.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 10: But also, like I would be stupid not too. She's
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 10: the only billionaire in this category as far as I know,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 10: Between Colplo and Kristen. This gets difficult for me because,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 10: I mean, copol used to date Amadola and she's she's
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 10: a Rhode Island girl, But I don't know, there's like
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 10: full disclosure. I think Olivia Copo is one of the
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 10: most beautiful human beings on the planet, right Now, however,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 10: I something about her online presence is just really annoying.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 10: I think she's really annoying. I think Kristen. I mean,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 10: Kristen just signed a licensing deal for merchandising with the NFL.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 10: And this isn't just like she's sketching up some stuff,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 10: like she's sitting there sewing these outfits. She's so creative,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 10: she's so talented. She seems like a really smart lady
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 10: with her good head on her shoulders. So as crazy
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 10: as it sounds, I'm cutting Miss Universe. I'm cutting the
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 10: former Miss Universe Olivia Copplo, and I'm benching Kristen starting
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 10: Taylor Swift.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 26: All right, you're ready for this? Yes, Swift, He's don't
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 26: come at me. I'm starting Colpo. Know she's she's lived
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 26: out a New England girls dream.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: She really I respect that hustle.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: How many Super Bowls did she go to with Danny?
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: One or two?
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: I think too.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 26: And so I'm benching us check okay, and I'm cotting
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 26: Swift and listen, I respect get it from a guy's person.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: This is why I'm.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 26: Cutting Swift because she she hasn't earned full wag status
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 26: to me yet she's still new to the game. This
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 26: is her first season.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 10: That's true, but thinks other wags are jealous that she's
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 10: just stolen the show or do you think they're happy
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 10: that she's helped like elevate.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 26: That if she takes one picture with one of them,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 26: it's it's over.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 10: She like that.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: That's what's crazy, is she kind of put Kristin.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 10: I don't want to say she put Kristen on the map,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 10: because Kristen was Kristen was making outfits for Simone Biles
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 10: for herself, like she already had notoriety. But when Taylor
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 10: wore her puffer to her custom puffer jacket, like basically
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 10: sealed the deal for Kristen to sign that deal with
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 10: the NFL.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 26: I mean it's a special one again for the Super Bowl,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 26: like Kristin.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 10: This is a message for Kristen and Kristen only congratulations
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 10: on your new line. I would love to help you
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 10: in any way I can with any Patriots gear you have.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 10: I can just kind of stage an imprompto photo shoot
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 10: with Tamara, myself and our team photographers. I just have
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 10: one request, please make some clothing in your line, like
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 10: jackets and stuff. But I can't be wearing players numbers
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 10: out there, so non player just the logo because it's
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 10: it's weird if I'm out there and like, I don't know.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: So uh yeah, all right.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 26: So before we're getting told to wrap up, it's Super
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 26: Bowl prop that season, So I want to go through
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 26: four quick. Taylor Swift, just tell me how ridiculous it
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 26: is because we're getting told to wrap up. Number one,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 26: how many times will she be shown on the on
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 26: the the show on the camera over under is one
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 26: and a half times?
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 12: Over?
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 26: Okay, agreed? Second, will Swift and Kelsey appear together in
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 26: a commercial?
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 22: Mm?
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know if Taylor, I say no. I don't
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: think Taylor is a big commercial girl.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 26: I think no too, all right, And these are the
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 26: last two and they're third. Well, the couple announced their
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 26: first pregnancy at the Super Bowl.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 10: From the way, you'd probably only do this if you're
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 10: a winning team. Yeah, so there's a lot of guys
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 10: on these teams. Yeah, I say yeah.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 26: And then the last one I'll do is will they
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 26: be shown kissing after the game? That's also winner losing one?
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 10: Yes?
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 26: Yeah, hard, yes, all right, all right, you might have
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 26: some more props next week. Alex, thank you for joining,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 26: and let's get back to the show.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 27: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, no
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 27: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 27: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 27: now it's next for residential delivery only.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 4: And now great moments in.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: History.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 4: I believe they were not in pads, right, l Yeah,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: pads which you always ask every Wednesday, and then finally
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: the answer changed and you weren't here.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: So do you think they will not be in pads
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: all week? Or will they be in pads today?
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 28: I think they were in in in pads, but not
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 28: like full pads yesterday. I think it was light pads,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 28: but I have to double check on that. That's even
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 28: better because.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 24: Now I like now I'm doubting myself a little bit.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 5: We noticed too, in the locker room, Mac had on
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 5: one of the scuba hats, so it seemed like he's trying.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 28: To Yeah, a lot of the players, that's true, Like
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 28: if you were here, you would have asked these questions
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 28: and we would have told the listeners about these things.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: You feel attacked. I asked them what the move was
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: supposed to do. Oh no, he did. He asked all
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: the requisite questions. We were upset that you weren't here
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: to answer.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 24: He had the answer.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, we would have gotten to this point.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 28: Ab A lot of the players were wearing like sweatshirts
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 28: or layers underneath their their their practice outfits because the heat.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 24: They want to they want to be hot, be hot
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 24: because of Miami.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. Huh, that's it.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 24: That's your recap of yesterday's I.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: Wonder if that translates, because when you were in Miami,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: the heat comes from the sun right outside rather than
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: coming internally. That's that's a different type a hot.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, where did he come from? Another places?
• 1:53:04
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  Speaker 1: Here we go.
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  Speaker 4: All right, as you're getting reset there, Freddy, I'll just
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 4: really quickly, I'll recap last week for everybody the divisional
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: round across the board. Everybody went one and one, picking
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: the actual game itself with the spread. Evan went to
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: and oh everybody else went one and one. So Freddy
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  Speaker 4: dominant has clinched the regular season the postseason title ten
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  Speaker 4: and two, followed by Paul and Evan at eight and four,
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  Speaker 4: Mike at seven and five, and Alex six and six
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 4: with the spread not clinched yet, fred eight and four,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 4: followed by Paul and Evan at seven and five, and
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: Mike and Alex at four and eight. Gar, So you
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  Speaker 4: have you have a one game lead over Evan and
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 4: I with the spread, but you have clinched the the other.
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  Speaker 1: Picks so good super Bowl. So we're not going to
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: do our Super Bowl pick?
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, next we would have hurried.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got more information to be gleaned.
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  Speaker 4: We can't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, piece of time.
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  Speaker 5: I really screwed that up.
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  Speaker 4: They really did they?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah they did.
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  Speaker 1: I highly recommend adopting one. So they're like, I've had
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  Speaker 1: it with running.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's weird. You just look at them like.
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  Speaker 5: You wish you were sprinting right now, don't you dog?
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  Speaker 4: You know they don't. So it did used to sprint,
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  Speaker 4: like when you go to the park and it would
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  Speaker 4: and it would always sprint an oval. You mean like
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  Speaker 4: the park the park that park, Glendale Park.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, what park you're talking about, not like a regular
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  Speaker 1: park like Joe from Hull. I wonder if ron Uh
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: says Fred not hating humans. I wonder if Ronald Robinson
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: hates humans. Thanks for all the fun moments this season.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what the off season bring. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's it all right, Jack and ann Arbor. The golden
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  Speaker 1: rule for how a football coach should use his players
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  Speaker 1: is if you've got a horse, ride him. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: would agree with that, Ben Manchester, says Daniels, because having
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  Speaker 1: watched daniels tape, I fully get the caution in him
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  Speaker 1: and why it may not translate to the NFL, where
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have elite weapons, but what if what it
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  Speaker 1: would also give me his hope. He has the arm
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  Speaker 1: and the legs to score from literally anywhere on the field.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: The Patriots could be backed up in their own half,
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  Speaker 1: and I'd have hope that on any play he could
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  Speaker 1: rip it deep down the field or take off with
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  Speaker 1: his legs and beat everyone, because he's that damn fast
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  Speaker 1: as a runner, and that to me would be exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Every single play something could happen. Not just can we
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  Speaker 1: hit the eight yard dink to pick up a first down,
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  Speaker 1: which what I've mostly thought for the last four years,
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  Speaker 1: whoever it's been quarterback. I can also see a chance
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: he could benefit from a speech sturt to open the
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  Speaker 1: field like Thornton. If he could catch or rekindle a
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: relationship with Booty if he hadn't gambled his way into trouble.
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  Speaker 1: I get the caution on him, though. It's an enthralling
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  Speaker 1: off season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I agree with that theory of the excitement
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  Speaker 4: that a guy like that will provide. Ultimately, his success
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 4: will depend on whether or not he can hit the
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  Speaker 4: eight yard dink pass on third down, because justin Fields
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  Speaker 4: gives you all of that right take the lamps. He
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  Speaker 4: can take that. He could take it to the length
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  Speaker 4: of the field any playing, but he doesn't do the
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  Speaker 4: third knee completions often enough.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: One more called Trey's in Memphis. What's up Trey?
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  Speaker 17: Hey guys, how's it going all right?
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  Speaker 1: Trey?
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  Speaker 13: Okay?
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  Speaker 17: I will listening early on in the show, and you
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  Speaker 17: guys were talking about you made want to move on
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  Speaker 17: from I think you have to be careful well how
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  Speaker 17: these team is carrying his sit up now with who
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 17: you trade? And I don't think you know you move
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  Speaker 17: a guy like Judah on I mean thirty one years
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 17: only to be thirty two later on this year, and
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 17: I think he he still has some juice now. But
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  Speaker 17: I mean, so as far as moving the player, I
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 17: would well I'll say, you know, Jonathan Jones, I mean,
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  Speaker 17: but you know, you move a guy like Judaan, he's
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 17: an alf a male. I don't think you want to
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 17: do that. And as far as the franchise tag goes,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 17: I say, you throw the tag on Henry. I don't
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 17: think it's going to cost that much. And you know
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 17: there's pretty much gonna sumb up my call.
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  Speaker 5: All right, thanks appreciate, it's a good call. That's a
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 5: good call. Something to consider with Henry for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that I did rather see if I
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 4: can work out a deal with him.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 5: I do think, Uh, Judan's question is this contract and
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  Speaker 5: you know, didn't they take money last year from this
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: year put it into last year and last year so
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 5: you want more?
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  Speaker 4: And you know it's it's this.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I would at least anticipate some kind of
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 5: holding or contract negotiation of some sort if he is
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 5: going to play here, and if not, then I mean
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 5: that could be impetus to move him too.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 4: And if he does play, I think what's sort of
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 4: all in agreement. We don't think they're going to be
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 4: a great team next year, even barring something unforeseen like
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels at three and he's c J. Stroud. Yeah,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 4: then what then you losen him for nothing? He'll be
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 4: a free agent, right, yeah, that's I think that's why
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: you pick a guy like that. A. He can get something,
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 4: and B he's not part of your long term plan.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: All right, that's going to be it for this edition
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