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EP188 - Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan (Thirsty For Gore) · Thirsty For More - Movie Review

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  Speaker 1: We could have just watched an hour and a half
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  Speaker 1: of this and I would have been happy. Pair drop complete.
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  Speaker 1: Too small, Too small man. Ice cream trucks, Dude, the
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  Speaker 1: most new meddal thing in the world. Ice cream trucks.
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  Speaker 1: It's the biggest truck they could think of.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, all right, the paramount logo happens?
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  Speaker 1: What are you talk about? And this movie it's so bad? Dude,
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  Speaker 1: it's so bad. It's so bad. What are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting the pot Nobody starts a podcast better than me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you're starting it, would you like to start that?
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  Speaker 1: If you're starting it? If you're starting it, would you
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  Speaker 1: would you like to start I've.
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  Speaker 2: Already started, dude, with the best in drum.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've been such a booty bitch this whole
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  Speaker 1: time and now you're like, like indignant about my behavior
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  Speaker 1: this entire time today? Yeah, what am I doing to you? Today?
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  Speaker 2: You were just like is so rude? And mean, just
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  Speaker 2: what's happening?
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  Speaker 1: What are we doing? What? It's okay, dude, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what do you want? Hey? Is this how you
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  Speaker 1: want to start it off? The podcast? Is this how
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  Speaker 1: you want to start it off? Yeah? Yeah, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a fucking dick. I don't care what the audience thinks. Well,
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  Speaker 1: because I know the truth, and you know the truth
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  Speaker 1: that you've been a dick the whole time, and now
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  Speaker 1: you're like the podcast, the podcast, dude, things that I
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  Speaker 1: can cut completely, the podcast. It's a good thing. I
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  Speaker 1: can cut it. Yeah, it's a good thing. Hello everyone,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to the Thirsty for Gore. Hi. Of course
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Malenko and at Alex Nice and welcome,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome dude. Today we're talking about nineteen eighty nine's Friday
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  Speaker 1: the Thirteenth, Part eight, Jason takes Manhattan, which very little
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  Speaker 1: is set in Manhattan. But well, when you hear a
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  Speaker 1: title like that, first of all, like, I you know what,
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  Speaker 1: the episode should start off the way that you started it,
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  Speaker 1: Because when you hear a title like that, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think is going to happen? Well, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be murder in Manhattan. You think Jason's gonna take Manhattan? Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But instead we've got these punk teens that we see
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  Speaker 2: listening to him hop, which is not abnormal, but it's
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  Speaker 2: also like, I mean, it's a little bit weird.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it kind of like follows with the entire like
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  Speaker 1: the Jason franchise, like really really hates punks or things
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  Speaker 1: punks are like punks. You don't punk, don't play, I
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  Speaker 1: don't punk. He totally does punk though, I mean, of course.
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  Speaker 1: And also the you made it in Hollywood, Dude, those
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  Speaker 1: rowdy teens.
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  Speaker 2: He's got some Diddy tapes. Dude, those rowdy teens. Let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about some tes in this that that were for
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  Speaker 2: some reason, they were in the same spot in.
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  Speaker 1: The beginning of the movie.
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  Speaker 2: You see the punks at the beginning of the movie,
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  Speaker 2: and then they're sitting exactly the same spot later on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, something that you omitted to mention is that we
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  Speaker 1: get our second voiceover starting, And something that both of
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  Speaker 1: us didn't know last episode is that the voiceover that
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  Speaker 1: started the movie of the last movie and this movie
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  Speaker 1: is none other than our boy, Ralph. Dude, Ralph, you're doomed,
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  Speaker 1: You're all duped. He's the voiceover. Is he the same Ralph?
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: He's the same Ralph the voiceover for both of those
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  Speaker 1: both of those intros, I mean, fair, fair, crazy Ralph.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Ralph? Okay? I got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: questions about the mechanics I mean this one. No, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna treat it seriously. We're doing the Jason's We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna treat it seriously.
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  Speaker 2: This poor mouse or rat that they fucking sludged up
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  Speaker 2: in this disgusting barrel and it's.
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  Speaker 1: Everything is covered in sludge in this movie. Yeah, this movie.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to New York. Welcome to New York. What I
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  Speaker 2: did notice is that they fucking like took every scene
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  Speaker 2: that we saw at the beginning of this movie and
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  Speaker 2: then just put it at the end of the movie, like.
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  Speaker 1: They just set it up in that way. Well, because
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  Speaker 1: it had to be New York. Yeah, it had to
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  Speaker 1: open with it, and then it had to close with
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  Speaker 1: it because most of the movie is not said in
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  Speaker 1: New York.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's said it quote unquote Crystal Lake, Crystal Ocean
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  Speaker 2: on the other side of the world.
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  Speaker 1: So where is Crystal Lake again? Hold on, hold on,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. I'm getting overwhelmed here because we
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  Speaker 1: get Ralph introing the movie. We've get like, you know
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  Speaker 1: what is it's like epic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a cool shots of New York City,
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  Speaker 2: But what are the lines?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I can't put it away. I can just play it
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  Speaker 1: just just it's just just.
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  Speaker 3: Just it's like this we live in claustrophobia.
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  Speaker 1: Can't you recognize it? What lived?
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  Speaker 4: The steel and concrete, dark waters? There is no escape?
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  Speaker 3: Do we want it? We've come to thrive on it
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  Speaker 3: and each other.
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  Speaker 4: You can't get the adrenaline pumping without theearor good people.
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  Speaker 5: I love this town, an angels something something like, it's
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  Speaker 5: just like, but why Ralph?
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  Speaker 2: Like who cares about Ralph? Even like at this point,
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  Speaker 2: like they killed her? The second one is the eighth movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but so they kept some of the lore, going,
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  Speaker 1: what's the lore? What's the lore of this one at all? Well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. We will talk about it because
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  Speaker 1: I want to try and tease it out with you.
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  Speaker 2: Directed by, written and directed by Rob Heaton.
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  Speaker 1: Not good. Not good either of those, either of those.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't even feel like adjacent movie, either of those
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  Speaker 1: one Rob Heaton, written and directed. Neither of those were.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't poorly directed or anything. It was like it
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  Speaker 1: looked like you could tell finally like there's like a
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  Speaker 1: budget in a jacent movie. Yeah, but it seemed so wasted.
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  Speaker 2: It's so wasted, Like we get these like shots of
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  Speaker 2: New York and then you know, quiet, sleepy Crystal Lake
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  Speaker 2: and a giant like mega yacht owned by this kid, yes,
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  Speaker 2: Timothy Shallomey looking kid with this Timothy Shallomey looking woman,
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  Speaker 2: both making out with each other, and then they put
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  Speaker 2: the anchor down and it's like there's like a giant
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  Speaker 2: wire down there. Obviously, the fiber optics cable, the fiber
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  Speaker 2: optics a pardon me, the fiber optics cable that's gonna zap, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Jason back to live.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's the only thing that seems to work for Jason.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: Terminator lightning. Dude, it's been the last three movies, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, fooling around just to see
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  Speaker 1: some bovies.
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  Speaker 2: We get to see some boobies, but like the movie
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  Speaker 2: constantly wants us to feel really bad for Jason as
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  Speaker 2: a young boy getting killed, and it's like this this Well.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we get introduced in this movie to father,
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  Speaker 1: son and holy ghost Jason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit weird.
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  Speaker 1: And the Jason embodied is the father, the son is
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  Speaker 1: the kid, and the holy ghost is like the spirit
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  Speaker 1: that lives between between them, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Timothy shalomey looking guy.
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  Speaker 1: He actually looks more like.
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: Young Robblow is like explaining the story of Jason. But
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  Speaker 2: his face isn't like melted or deformed or anything. Is
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  Speaker 2: that like implied that he was like a regular boy
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  Speaker 2: that got melted and deformed when he was in the water.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, his face wasn't melted and deformed before that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was like a No, he got puff,
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  Speaker 1: he got puffy. Well he's disabled, but he didn't. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't melted, he just was. He got puffy because of
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  Speaker 1: the water. No, I'm pretty sure he's always been like
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  Speaker 1: a puffy boy. There was like an elephant man syndrome thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: going on, I'm pretty sure. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's backed up by the Freddy lore too.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's not what they chose for this movie. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not.
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  Speaker 2: So the electricity gets him back to life after after
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  Speaker 2: the young teen explains to his horny compadre like the.
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  Speaker 1: Story of how and even the way he tells the story,
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  Speaker 1: it's not really accurate to the law either, but I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's like a mythos though. We also get a
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  Speaker 1: news report that basically tells us that a boat full
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  Speaker 1: of teens from Crystal Lake is going to go to Manhattan. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like a Manhattan radio station that's broadcasting this
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  Speaker 1: and they're listening to that broadcast in Vancouver. In Vancouver,
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  Speaker 1: of course.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, and that we don't we don't see. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the broken bridge is still odd Jason from the last
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  Speaker 2: movie where the dad pulls Jason down into the water,
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  Speaker 2: but there's no dad body, no dad body, no boring
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  Speaker 2: you know who had a.
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  Speaker 1: Dad bought in this one. Jason. You look great, very
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  Speaker 1: very very chunky Jason in this. Yeah. And then like
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  Speaker 1: right away Caine Hotter's performance second Kane Hotter appearance, which
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say, like the Jason in this, like he
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  Speaker 1: knows who Jason is, and like there's like a determination
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  Speaker 1: to Jason that we've never seen before. Like he's like
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  Speaker 1: it's it's he's like so confident in his performance that
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  Speaker 1: like that's just magnified even more this time. So it's
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: hypered up Jason.
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  Speaker 2: Really, I felt a little bit disappointed by this. Jason
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  Speaker 2: felt a little bit like too much. If if Jason
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  Speaker 2: could wink at the camera, he would be all the time.
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  Speaker 1: That's not Jason's fault. It's not Jason's fault. It's the writing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely the right. I'm talking just about the performance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of performance, this dork loser pulls after telling the
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  Speaker 2: story to his girlfriend, scares her with a Jason mask,
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  Speaker 2: a perfectly replicated Halloween high end Halloween mask.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got in a party city. He definitely got
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  Speaker 1: it a party got the he got the thirty dollars one,
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  Speaker 1: not the fifteen dollars Yeah, totally, absolutely, the slightly yellowed one, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: with the like cuts in it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like it's like brown, it's got the slice slice.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: Because Jason's becoming icon dude. Yeah, even in the world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well it's it's I think we're still functioning very much
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: under like Rocky sequel rules of Like there's Jason Laura
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  Speaker 1: now in the in the in the in universe, in universe,
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  Speaker 1: Jason Laer. He's also been.
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  Speaker 2: Doing a lot of pull ups because he's one arm
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  Speaker 2: pulled himself up along the boat.
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  Speaker 1: I love coming out of water, Jason, and Jason is
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  Speaker 1: like constantly he's not even wet, he's like glossy, like
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  Speaker 1: he's so sludged as well. Well, like this was the
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  Speaker 1: time of the world loved toxic waste that it was
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: like Ninja Turtles, you know, RoboCop.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some goo like goofy RoboCop goo.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like this movie wanted to capitalize on some
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  Speaker 1: of the goo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just wet all the time basically, But it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't seem like he's as corpses.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: No, one like grew back. It's and it's not. It
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem as like Mushi as like previous Jason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't seem like every time he touches a thing,
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  Speaker 2: like the bones.
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  Speaker 1: Thro the No, the bones were very like sturdy in place,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: Jason Like, even like his forearms Jason, Like, it's like
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  Speaker 1: thick forearms Jason, Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: And he murders the one guy and the lady runs out.
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  Speaker 2: He stabs the guy.
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  Speaker 1: He murders him with.
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  Speaker 2: The like a spar he shoots the spear at her missus. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then he stabs with the gun into him.
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  Speaker 1: Was terrible. But but I would say that she's such
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  Speaker 1: a well cast Danny mulroon a Jason specifically, j It's like, now,
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  Speaker 1: like I would say laurified, I think I think she
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: was terrible on purpose. I think that was like very homagie.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Everything about this beginning feels very omagie. It just something
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: felt really hollow about this well because I think like
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: it's trying to pay a lot of service to Jason,
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  Speaker 1: and it's really it is really winking hard at times,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: but I think it kind of misses the mark because
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like it's I'll say it right now,
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  Speaker 1: it's jumped the shark Jason. It's go to boats Jason
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: to talk to use a thirsty for morrism, of course,
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  Speaker 1: coined by way of Dylan Barry on this podcast. Dylan, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it goes to boats, and it goes to boats hard
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  Speaker 1: and like very literally goes to boats.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in this one several times, Yeah, Jason finds the
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  Speaker 2: lady on the poop deck and she poops on her
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  Speaker 2: deck with a spear and gently like stabs her slowly
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  Speaker 2: into the deck. He like nears the dagger close and
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: then yeah, does a poke. I should say that Dylan
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  Speaker 2: and his cousin I believe, came up with go to
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  Speaker 2: boats before the podcast, but it was just popularized.
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  Speaker 1: It's just Jason.
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  Speaker 2: Jason though, and it like fades the black. It's like
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: an fine cold Open.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fine cold open. It's a fine.
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  Speaker 2: Cold open after the real cold open, which is like
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: we're headed to New York.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I think, dude, I have to say
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of on board for like I would
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: say I was on board for about forty minutes. Yeah,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: what were you on board for? Well? I liked I like,
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  Speaker 1: I like. I liked that they were attempting to tell
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: a new story. I feel I thought it was like
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  Speaker 1: an interesting way of like making the kids involved and
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  Speaker 1: like linking New York because it's like, oh New York,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: what do you mean? What do you mean Manhattan? But
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  Speaker 1: then it was like, oh, okay, like the Crystal Lake
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  Speaker 1: kids are going to But the thing, one of the
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  Speaker 1: main things that took me out of it, dude, was
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: that you're doomed character in this one that like guy
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: that looked like that guy Noah that I don't think
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: you know he he this this he's like a I
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: don't know, a ship guy. He's like a crew member
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  Speaker 1: of the ship or something on the ship. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: he's very your doomed. He's got the your doomed energy.
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  Speaker 1: He says it literally, and then he makes a comment
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  Speaker 1: later on where he's like you're the last of them. Yeah.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Then I was like, don't laurify Freddy in Like, we're
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: not doing Freddy Laura in this one. Yeah, that's it.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: That really actually really upset me because I was like,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: they're trying to link these kids to Jason somehow.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: And there's no link. There was never any link.
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  Speaker 2: There was never any link between the other ones either exact.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: But that's fine, because that's my problem with you. I
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: remember Tommy, I remember Ginny, I remember, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: there are people who had like strong sort of characters,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: not the strongest, but like at least memorable to some degree.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: That's it's a fundamental problem of this movie, and that
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  Speaker 1: is they don't actually honor the law because taking Jason
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Jason the Shark or going to boats, you have to
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  Speaker 1: take away the motivating factor of Crystal Lake and territoriality
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: because so far, the reason Jason is the anti hero
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: and the reason we sympathize with his cause so much
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: is because he's murdering out of just like sheer like reactivity.
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  Speaker 1: But now it's like you're on a fucking boat and
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: suddenly you're ripping like communications lines, ripping communications lines, Jason
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: was very very outrageous for me. He never did shit
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like but people will say, oh, well,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: but what about the phone lines And it's like, yeah,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: but no, that seems to make sense within the context
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: of where he is, Like how does he know any.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Of this shit? Like he doesn't make any sense.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: It makes those sense. Speaking of not making sense, this
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: lady buying this Stephen kingpen off eBay and then being like,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it's apparently Stephen King.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: He's got this fountain pen that she's like, I don't
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: know he wrote some stories with it. Maybe I guarantee
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you Stephen King hasn't touched the pen to write in
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: like forty years. As soon as computers happened, he was like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: oh fuck this, I'm gonna learn how to use this.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: The pen is mightier and then the stored in this movie.
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  Speaker 2: There's yes the ones and never comes back ever again.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing is, so this miss Van Dusen has.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Been She's like the most Hillary Clinton supporter you've ever
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: met in your life. And a cute dog. But yeah,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the dog was cute, but also like did it matter, like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: like did the dog the dog was never in danger?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: The dog never like disappeared, and then we found out
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the dog was okay. Later on the dog was.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Just did disappear, But we didn't care. We were just
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: like I.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Didn't remember, I did remember. I was just like, Oh,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the dog's okay. Is it an implication that she's got
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: kind of like some like PTSD from her family dying
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and her being all almost drowned by her psychotic ongole.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: But also that she has some psychic connection to Ja
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Jason too, which Jason also a thing they tried to
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: seemingly bring over from the last one.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so they continue the lore of like there's a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: spirit a kind of and possession sort of vibes, right
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: because like somewhat Yeah, I think, so okay, hear me out, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think this movie then really answers a lot of
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: my questions indirectly, if we have Jason has been mentioned
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: to have drowned several times now as a child. Yes,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: so my thing is Jason drowned. Yeah, he is a ghost.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: He's dead and it's not alive Jason. It's spirit spirits
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: attaching themselves to forest dwellers or is dwelling vagrants in
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: this town, who then have relationships throughout the series with
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: other vagrants, and they mentioned them and they're all like
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: they're all mystically connected. Yeah. And then and that's why
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: we get father Son, Holy Ghost Jason, because like we
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: have like the ghost of Jason, which is the child Jason,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and then we have the like rotting corpse, reanimated body
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: of the vagrant that was possessed by Jason Jesus, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that is kind of like meshes together in this like
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: third character of Rennie, who is our main character, who's
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: got phenomenal hair.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but she doesn't show it a ponytail.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: We have to wait to earn the hair. Yeah, of course,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the final girl Maine, if you will, Yeah, for sure.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And we're what's this dude's name? Who the tell me
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: who you mean? Oh?
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Charles, Charles McCullough. He's the the uncle, Oh the uncle.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I gotta say, I think he's my favorite character
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of the entire movie, just because he had stuff anything. Yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and he's kind of continuing the sort of secondary evil
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: man character in these stories.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: But like from a place of concern because because we
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: only find out later that he tried to murder his niece.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Well, he's both a teacher and her uncle. So he's
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the double little lesson. He's the he's the guardian of
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: this of the kids on this boat. He's responsible for
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the kids on this school trip. And it's like a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: high school graduation graduation. They're finished high school. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and only this many people graduated. Well Okay, so it's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: never clear actually how many people there are. It seems
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: at first that there's like sixty, but then suddenly, like
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: quickly releases like Crue.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Only the people that could afford to go got to go.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I guess maybe maybe it just wasn't a very large
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: graduating class that they all were killed by Jason. I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: guess probably. But so what year is this? And like
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: in the reality, it's definitely two thousand dead? Dude? Well,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: because sometimes I feel like Jason tries to like lie
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: that it congruent things are happening. Yeah, you know what
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like you know how Jason movies try and lie.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, Jason movies lie all the time. They're
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: like notoriously lying to us a hundred percent because it's
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: like while you're getting red cos yeah, remember last year
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: when this happened, didn't that happen in nineteen ninety. No,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: no it didn't. It happened in nineteen eighty five. And
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: we've trued these out so quickly that we don't know
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: what the timeline is exactly. Speaking of timelines, Sean Robertson
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: gets introduced the most boring leading man ever.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, he had this story with
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the dad where the dad's like, you're a fucking loser. Hey,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: why aren't you coming into my footsteps? Hold on? He
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: fee's like so obviously in front of this other character,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: is like, hey, I want you to follow in my footsteps.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Everybody should. He'll be the captain of this ship. And
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: then he's like, here's my sextant. Not these computers these
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: kids are using these days here and he gives he
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: gives it to him, and that he's like, well, what
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: are we gonna do Dad? We should oh no, what
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: are we gonna do? Son? We should do this a
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: hoy mati And he's.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: Like, fucking idiot, you fucking idiot humiliate him in front
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: of his friend, basically, and he like, who who the
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: wiener friend?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Who has the coolest jacket? Dude? Like such a such
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a now vintage jacket that you would buy for a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: little too expensive. I thought it was like a I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: think it's a stripe shirt, isn't it? Oh okay? But
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: he's later wearing that's the guy who's later wearing the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: purple jacket, oh okay, which with the green collar that
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I loved.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: So he fucking humiliates his kid and then is like, no,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to do it like this, and then tries
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: to hand him the the walkie talkie to make the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: announcement or whatever, and he like Sean storms off, But
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: can I.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Just say something about this? The way this scene plays out,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I actually really sympathize with the kid because he's asking
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: He's like, the dad is counting it as if he's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: put him in charge, and he's supposed to go and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: do go ahead and do the thing. But then he
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: asks him, what do you do? So he's answering the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: question as what you do next? But he didn't like
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: he wasn't actually physically doing it because he doesn't have
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the routine of like announcing the thing, because he's like,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: he'd like, that's the thing that he missed, and so
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: he was speaking at it from like a technical point
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of view, and then like there was a misunderstanding between
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: dad and son, and it was really like, I think
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: well played.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I think so too, But like my my feelings around
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: everything in retrospect that I liked in the same amount
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: of time, basically the same amount basically everything up until
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: maybe even the first kill. Yeah, I like was just
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: kind of like, Okay, I'm on board with this. I'm
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: on board with Jason daytime, Jason coming onto a boat
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: pulling himself up by I mean, I could believe it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Something about this part felt so commando. It felt very commando.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It felt like.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: A combination of uh yeah, like an action of heros. Yeah, totally.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And then and then there's constant interaction with this this
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you're doomed guy. Uh and people are just like, who's
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: that creep whatever?
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Leaving alone?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right there. Seems like there's so many
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: kids on the boat.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: When does the guitar hero moment happen with like our
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: TikTok star being filmed by this guy's phone. That's a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: little later.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: First, what happens is they're all having a dance party.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: People are shooting those clay pots or whatever.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: You like, a sweet see and where are they after?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they're just murdered, dude. And then
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Sean gives off screen kills Jason.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally, dude, just like the saw kills that
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: we never saw the saw traps.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: We never saw the inters intervol saw traps. Oh totally.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: And then Sean gives Renny no sexual chemistry between them.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: At all, they Like I never bought that. They were like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, like high school sweetheart? Were they trying to?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I guess? I guess they gives.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Her this crappy necklace that's like the New York or
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Statue Liberty necklace, and like focusing on Statue of Liberty
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: because that was the only tie they had, that was
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the only like b roll footage they could.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Get for fucking like they're like, oh, well, the rest
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: of it's Vancouver. But no. But they did shoot in
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Times Square for for one scene.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Right, they shot a lot of stuff. I mean they
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: shot a lot of stuff in for like two days.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I'm sure in New York.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they really made those two days. They really did
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: those two days. Yeah, because everything else is literally like
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Toto No, Okay, so I didn't I thought that subway
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: was Toronto, but it's not. The subway cars yeah, I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: don't think they are. I don't think I think the
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: inside looked like the ones. Yeah yeah maybe maybe, yeah,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll have to check Jamie, can you But yeah,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: we get to see. But like, here's why.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And when I say I like a character, I don't
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: necessarily mean I like the person.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: But like, at least with the young you find it interesting.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just at least with the uncle. He comes up
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: to her and he's like, I'm disappointed.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That you can't. I mean, this guy is such a
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: fucking piece of shit. He is, He's truly a piece
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: of shit, but.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: He has enough He doesn't have enough integrity to not
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: try and drown his daughter, but he has enough integrity
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: not to fuck a team.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: No, I disagree with your reading on that. Dude. I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: think he like lets that he lets that kiss go
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: on for a really long time, and he lets himself
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: get pushed onto a bed and straddled. It's not like
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: he didn't have any agency in that moment. I mean,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: but taken by surprise or say that about I say,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I'm saying he could have maybe like taken that, like
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: maybe he could have been like taken by surprise in
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the moment and like not reacted, been too shocked to react,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: but like he does do a like wide eyed like
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: kind of like.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you would like again he's the it's sure
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: like but you think that he had integrity in this scene.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Think think about this. Would you ever say this if
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the roles were reversed?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I would I might, Yeah, of course I would.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: That that so that if somebody let if anybody let
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: a kiss linger that long and they were in the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: power position quote. I know that she's like trying to
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: like manipulate him, because once again we get the like
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: evil bitch woman writing characters in this like of like
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: you know, she's like trying to like, Okay, we're not
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: even at that part yet, can we?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I want to hear? Well, what what we do have
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: is we have that creepy guy shooting uh the the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: uncle and Rennie who I'm like Rennie Harlan and then
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and then he turns the camera around and we get
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that rocker chick play with perfect acoustics outside. I loved it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I thought that, like I thought the TikTok element to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: this was so cool. It might have this might have
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: read as like so stupid back in the day before phones.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Now you and I might have watched this and been like,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: why would they be filming like they're like themselves on
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: a bout with no no doing creative ship. Yeah that's true.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Also, this guy, I think he's so ubiquitous, you know
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, yeah, totally, absolutely, and not everybody had.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: This handsome, cansome guy with the glasses.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Due this guy's dressed like like Crispin Glover. As I
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: was walking on the ground, I didn't make a sound, and.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Then you think they're referencing clown.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Dude like this is when he looked like they looked
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: like Chrispin Glover looked like in the the I'm.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Strong, I can kick you know when he's got the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: wig on and he's got the platform. Somebody who like
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: just kind of appreciated the director appreciates shramanic actor a
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: shamanic actor, Yeah, totally, but yeah he try to shamanic acting. Yeah,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: he's like, well, I want to go fuck that girl
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: who's a bitch, And the other teen is like, no,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: didn't you fuck me? Instead? I might play the guitar. Yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I mean she's so much cooler, Yeah, so much cooler.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: He's so much cooler and seems way more down too. Well,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: she's immediately down. Yeah, she she told him he was
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: making her videos. I like that. I like that element too,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: of like these kids have a talent, I know that,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Like it's largely vapid and it doesn't go anywhere. But
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: in keeping with kind of like the Freddie Danny Mulroun
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: lore and like the crossover, it's like, it's cool to
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: make a kid good at a thing, you know.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I agree again as like a sort of guitar character thing.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: It feels it feels nice. But the problem is is that,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: like even the kill.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Doesn't pay off.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: It's like it's not like he took the guitar strings
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and cut her head off or something.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Well, he bashed in the head with the guitar. Yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you wanted it creative. He's not Freddy Well. But yeah,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: but this isn't Jason either, you know what I mean? Like, oh, well,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: some would say that this is the most Jason Dude's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Kane Hotter. It's just Jason. It's just that it feels
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: like because there's so many parts. There's that part where
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: he knocks the dude's head off, he punches the dude's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: head off, he punches Julius's head off. Julius is a
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: great character. I don't know, dude, I like, I did
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: get like attached to the characters, and I did I
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: was manipulated by the movie. Yeah, yeah, I like, well
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: in ways, in ways I don't like, I'm not saying
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: it's good, but I want to evaluate it seriously.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: No one's taking that away from you, no.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I know, but like there's like a yeah, okay, okay,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: well we'll talk about what is and what isn't, Jason,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: what feels.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Really weird is when the uncle grabs Harlan's face. People
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: that like men touching women's faces in a way that's
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: like under their chin.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Is very weird.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like women taking advantage of old men and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: then having their disgusting creep boyfriend shooting film it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's so weird, and then like they fucking diddy
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: tape of blackmailing with it. It's fucking crazy, dude. Well
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: we haven't even got there yet.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Hold on, No, we get to guitar lady, fucking guitar
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: heroing downstairs again. Perfect acoustics in this and in the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: coolest looking doesn't she even comment on, like you could
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: film a movie here music. She wants a film there,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and she's like playing, I don't know, I thought this
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: was cool, Like it's a cool setting to see Adjason in,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: because then it backlorifies when Jason's in steam rooms later on,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: she screams and runs away from him, and the You're
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: doomed guy listens, like here's the screaming.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Doesn't do anything about it? Is it responsible about it
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: at all? At least Ralph was like, you're doomed. He's
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: like telling.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: You warning before the ship. He but he was like
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: shiftily around.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: But he's like, so why are you letting it happen? Yeah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: he's completely letting it happen. Why are you working on
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the ship, Like why wouldn't you exactly? Why would you
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: save yourself? Well, he needs to tell everyone they're dude.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Of course Rennie is writing with her Stephen king eBay
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: bought Penn and she's like talking to the dog, being like,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: why don't we go have some experiences to write about?
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Well, so she's wants to be a writer. She's she's
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: definitely uh you know orange counting, Oh yeah, where And
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Jason is fucking like casually looming around the fucking poop
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: deck uh. And and they have this like sweet camera
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: shot though where if they see you see fucking Jason
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: walking casually down and they go in through the window
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: of Rennie's room, Jason being casual in this one.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: So many the most casual Jason. And then she turns
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: around and like this is a cool this was cool,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: went absolutely nowhere where she looks out her window and
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: young not deformed Jason, not canonical Jason child is like
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: with hair, is like hitting the window and like help me,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: save me, very very very This is the most Freddy Jason.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: This is even more Freddy Jason than Freddy.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: But this is like bad Freddie Jason. This is like
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Part four Freddy Jason, Part five, you know what I mean?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Like Part eight is like, oh man, I feel like
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: part eights of things are usually bad. Wasn't saw part
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: eight the bad one too? I don't even remember saw
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: part eight.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah that was the one with the lasers. Yeah
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: yeah that like cut the dude's face open or whatever.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: No, not into it at all.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Also, we get Julius's fight scene where obviously we have
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: to set him up, but none of these five boys
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: are with Jason at.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: All, or they ever do the deck, they get killed,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: like they just get kind of like the numbers get
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: thinned out a little bit. Yeah, and off screen killed
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: after this other boy gets brain damage from this clearly
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: superior boxer. Oh my god. Yeah, and she's like, look
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: at the muscles. I want to have sex with him.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, look there's another hot guy walking by now too,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and he's just like another handsome deck guy who like
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: long face walks by them.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Oh he's so long face. And this this lady who's
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: like forty playing a teen with this like stereotypical stereotypical Asian,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: very good at school. Nobody's better at school than Asians,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: and she she wants to be cool kid, and this
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: popular girl wants to be her friend even though she's
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: like a nerd. I guess she's like doing cocaine with her.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of like, I don't know, we're's a
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: very drugs is bad movie. By the way, where are
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: all the like girls on this trip? It's like seventeen
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: boys and three girls all of a sudden, I don't know,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Like it just seemed the logic, but like it just
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: seemed like very inconsistent, like they couldn't cast I don't know, like,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: was there a casting problem? Was there? Like it just
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: seemed like inconsistent. Who was there and when?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally totally. And then we get this the Crispin
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Glover dude interacting with the uncle and the uncle being like,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: they are fucking pathetic. You fucking lose her. You're not
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: getting into films. You're never gonna get into film school.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: He's like dangling these kids' futures over them, Like he
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: keeps like threatening the kid's futures.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. He's a bad guy, dude, He's not meant
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: to be a good guy. I never said he was
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: meant to be a good Who said he was a
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: good no?
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: No?
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: But like I just feel like, yeah, I don't think
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: he's redemptive, even in the situation with no one said
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: he was redemptive. I think he let that kiss gone
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: way too long. We all know what it means when
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you get straddled.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Can I just say something again, you wouldn't you would
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: never say that about a person in the oppite, Like
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: if the genders were reversed, he would never.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Say that, say that. Why wouldn't I say that? There's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the man to like, was like I'm gonna take off
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: all my clothes in front of you. Yeah, it would
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: be No. No, I'm not saying sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: not saying that what she did was good or justifyed.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: No one said you said that. I'm just saying that, like,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: like it's in the moment. If if I was like,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: he's the adult in the situation, he has the responsibility
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: to act with integrity in the situation. It's a fucking
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: outrageous situation. It's a fucking rat. I would be like,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know what. I would probably leave. That's what
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I would do. I'd be like, I'm leaving. Yeah, that's
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: what you would do. That's what he should have done.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, dude, wants to get pussy. What do you
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: what do you want him to do? He's fucking old dude. Anyway,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: this lady's doing cocaine. And it's not a lady. She's
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: a child, dude. She's like forty, dude, but she's like
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: forty are you kidding? No, no, I know, but in
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the like in the movie, in the movie, she's fucking
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: forty two, dude. No one can hide those gross sweet
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and like she's forcing this girl to take cocaine who's
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: clearly uncomfortable. Yeah, she's it does seem like an adult
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: woman forcing a child to do totally well while fucking
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: stop being such a square. Well fucking Renny is like
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: like a dope walking around endlessly being like huh, what's
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, and even the even the lady, the
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: forty year old is like, what's wrong with her? She
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: calls her like a dopey or what does she call her? Yeah,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: like dopey Rennie over there or no, she's something something anyway,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and she is dopey. Yeah, and she's like, oh, we
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: hope the dopey niece doesn't dopey McCullough Bruce McCullough. Yeah.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So she's like, I'm not worried about him, it's her.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: It's her rat this like she's like she's gonna nark
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: on us us.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Like again, like some of this stuff I felt like
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, like is this girl.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Gonna knark on you? Because she doesn't seem what she
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: told me she was. I honestly don't think that she
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: was like, oh no, thanks, Like the girl next to
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: her seems like more of a nark than than this lady.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, Like and eventually the behavior of this girl,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: or this forty two year old woman gets to be
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: too much for her compadre, Yeah, and she leaves her.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: She leaves, and Jason is just like drifting around in
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: the fucking kind.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Of just like looming looming. Yeah, I feel like a
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: lot of cartoon us. When they portray Jason, they show
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: this version of Jason looming appearing. Jason also weirdly teleporting Jason.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I wanted much more teleporting. There was a lot very
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: there was a lot using where he was at any
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: given time, and I think, like on purpose, Like I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: think he's like it's supposed to be, like it's like
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: a spirit traveling but also a revenant, you know.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I wish it was more of a spirit traveling. Speaking
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: of spirits traveling, the uncle creepily buys on the two
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: girls doing cocaine and is like, are you doing drugs
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: missus hot lady that's going to touch me later?
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: And her friend who's clearly way too.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Young, bring those drugs to me later. We can do
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: them together and I can give you your a.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: For effort for your science project.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: And then Jason comes into the sauna where he takes
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: a hot rock and shoves it into a do it's heart.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: A dude's heart. He caves a dude's chest in with
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: a hot rock, And so I love this kill, I thought,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I mean it was a cool kill for sure. Do
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I buy like this creative a kill? Jason, I don't know.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: This seems like a Freddie.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: This seems like a Freddy kill. Well, no, because like
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: you got your rocks off with some silly, silly pun.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Help you get your rock song. Let off some steam, Bennett, Yeah, yeah,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: let off some steam for sure? I think, I mean
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: for sure. Whatever. Yeah, and then this bitchy lady fully
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: tries to murder by the way. By the way, let
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: me let me just say uncle might be a creep,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: but he's not a fucking murderer. I don't think she's
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: trying to murder her, But like I don't think he's
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: trying to have sex with his girl. That's how much,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: all right? I mean, he's totally trying to buy this
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: kill she does. I'm not trying to apologize. I'm not listen,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not this lady apologies. I think straight up, it's like,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: what do you think is going to happen? Dude? And
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: they like have to like dive in after that and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the a moving boat. We're like far away from shore
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: at this point. I mean we're deep into the ocean
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: to the ocean. Yeah. So, like, are they like coastal Massachusetts?
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Crystal Lake? It must be it must be, right? Did
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: they retcon it from Midwest to like coastal?
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't it the Midwest? It was the Midwest? I think, So,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I mean Crystal Lake? Right, it's a lake and it's
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: a lake land. No, it's landlocked. Lakes are landlocked. No,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: lake Ontario goes into the ocean, doesn't it. It does not where?
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's the Great Lakes Lake. They're not connected
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: to the ocean. What is it? Where is this supposed
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: to be? I don't know.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: And then Jason is pulling this woman, he's pulling Rennie down. Yeah,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: because she had a trauma bond with him when she
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: was young.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: It makes no fucking sense. Well, like, at what age.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: She's deep in this ocean lake? Dude, she's deep in
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: the ocean lake. Sean jumps in as the good boy
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: that he is, and also.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Like, did they want to make him seem competent or incompetent?
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, they totally did. They wanted him to be
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Kyle Rest dude. This entire movie.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, this guy feels like a Kyle reason
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: they're replaying Terminator against some of the scenes, even with
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: her hair, it reminds you of like Linda Hamilton's hair
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: being tossed around her running around, limping through like those
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: sewers absolutely looked like scenes from Terminator absolutely Part one,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: of course, of course rightfully, So, the molested uncle comes
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: back and is like, how dare you do this to
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: my I told you this was a bad idea, Miss
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: van Deen. Hold on, I've got a science project for
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: you here. Let me just get something something more comfortable here.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Would you like some champagne? Where did you get this?
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Like I brought it? I just not get on board.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this. And she's like, come on, loosen
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: up a bit, and she takes off her clothes and
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: she's drawn her science project. Is she drew real life
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: organs where they would be on her body? Not? Well no,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: but I guess it's not supposed to be. She just
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: wants to be sexy about it.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Well here here, like this other scene, I would say
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: that was so weird. If someone did I would think
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: it was so bizarre.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I would be like, I would run out of the room.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, no, I'm married, miss that in that moment,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: In that moment is when he should have left.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, honestly like it just that's why I'm like,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: it's so appropriate.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, well, hold on, I want
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: to see where this here, this is going.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: But let's see where this is going, because this was
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: very Freddy Ready goes into a washroom. She turns on
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: to wash her wash her hands, and blood is pouring out.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Blood starts, blood starts. Jason young, Jason, slightly more Asian,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: slightly more melted. Well, like we thought he was an
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Asian kid. He just straight up looks like it. And
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: then like suddenly we were like, oh, they like put
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: some prosthetics on him. But like it was, it was
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: very weird. I think you're right and try and they're
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that they're trying to retcon the fact that his melted
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: face wasn't act. He was actually it was part of
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: blood and that he was just a blody boy.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: But like the whole point of Jason was that he
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: was like elephant men sque like some sort of deformity
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: that he would be made fun of for and he
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: was like, like, I guess not all there, like mentally too.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: And so like this kid doesn't seem like that.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: No, he seems like a normal boy. And Jason seems
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: like a normal.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: He seems like an able bodied boy. I don't know
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: that like Jason, like, oh my god, straight up looks
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: like an Asian kid. Dude, Like, straight I'm looking at
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: it right now, it just looks like an Asian boy. Yeah,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: for just that one scene, For just that one scene,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: it's so chaotic too, Like talk about characters where there's
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: too many.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: There's too few characters in this and none of them
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: are are three dimensional at all. Like it has the
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: exact opposite problem. There's too much plot happening.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: There's way too much plot happening where.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: It's like you mentioned something about.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I forget what it was, but it was a reference
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to Trigle of sadness that I was like, that would
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: have been great if somebody was like, I don't even
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: know what it was. But I don't know what it
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: was either. I remember you mentioning triangle of sadness.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I thought you were referencing it because it was like
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: something about like rich people on boats or something I
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know what I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: was saying anyway, Yeah, what were you going to say?
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Or where are we?
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: We're at the rape scene where he she rapes the
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: old man but he has he's the adult, so he
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be drinking champagne with her.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Where did you get this? I would like some very much.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Well he immediately takes it away from her, right yeah,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: and he like puts it down and is like, you
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: are going to sacrifice your No, she she's she like is.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Like, no, I'm here to show you my biology experiment.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: And she turns around and takes off her robe. Yeah. Uh,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: and he does like what are you doing? And then like.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Nineteen sixties lingers at her.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: It's very such boomer lyud. It's like it just like
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: gazing over her.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. And then he walks up to her and
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: she comes up to him and kisses her, and then
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: he like old man, he puts his arm around her him,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: she kisses him. He old man puts it, puts his
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: arm around her and falls on the bed and then
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: like a pervert, Crispin Glover is like like vineosing and
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: then he he is like gently patting her yea to
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: not like I guess, like not force her off or something,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: and he goes.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: He tosses her the tape. The kid, Yeah, the kid
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: tosses her the tape because it's like, I guess, like
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: a revenge for Yeah, she's got some revenge for him.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: She's got some shit on him now. Yeah, he was
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: on top of her, dude.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: And yeah, and she's like confidently grabs the tape and
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: is like, yep, I've got it under my robe now.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I'm gonna tell everybody that you did
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: it to me, and they'll believe me because I'm the man. Goodbye.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: He does kind of have that vibe. He's like, I'm
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: not worried. I've me tuned before.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Totally this totally this dude is totally me tuned in
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: a totally nineteen fifties time. Ye like full they never
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: believe you, Yeah, totally, I'll tell him you're crazy. Well no, no, no,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: he's not like that. He's the kind of guy who
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: fully denies it and has denied it in his head
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: for so long.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: He just I don't remember that. Yeah.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: And then this this Weiener Crispin Glover guy wants to
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: be like, well, I mean you're half naked, why don't
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: we just fuck? And she's like, you're a fucking loser
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: ghost dude. Yeah, I hate you, yeah exactly.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: You helped me. Like all the other women and the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: other are hot women in this series. I hate guys
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: like you. Yeah, totally, even though people would just fuck
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: this dude now he just looks like he's the cool Yeah,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: he's like and the guitar tick was cool. They would
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: have been together in this reality, yeah, totally, they would
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: today reality and that reality too. Yeah. Probably he never
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: would have wanted to be with that yuppie. Yeah.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: And then Jason, after this fucking loser leaves, Jason pops
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: his head in and is like, well, I'm gonna kill
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: this lady. Now she's taking a shower and Jason, this
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: was vicious, fucking smashing the mirror and taking the glass
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: and fucking's stabbing her with it. That was aggressive and scary.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Something about this kill felt very off.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: It was so off, but it was the most scary
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: though of all of them, for sure. And like like also,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: she comes out of the shower completely dry, upsetting, she
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: was completely dry. It was really funny. It was like
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: an upsetting kill. It was a very upsetting kill. He's
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: never like this is the most torturous I think we've
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: seen Jason. He's not really torturing them, but it is
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: the most like sort of like intentionally tortures Jason, you know, yeah,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: because we've removed the territoriality automatically, it's torturous because he's
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: fucking killing people.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Well, she like peers out the window or out the door,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: and Jason like kind of casually comes in and she's
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: like listening for him, and he smashes through the door,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: which is classic Jason, which I like, but like, man,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: it just like, yeah, it felt really like out of
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: a different movie because she like falls on the ground
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: and then he punches at the wind the mirror and
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: then just fucking stabs her.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: It just feels a little bit weird.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: It feels it feels scary though. This was the only
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: scary part that I really found. The captain and his
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: first mate are seeing that there's.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Like trouble ahead, there's a storm coming, uh, and then
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Jason picks up the what is the pokey thing on
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: a on a spear? Not a spear? Is it a spear? Yeah?
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: A fishing, spear rod fishing. No, what are you talking about.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: It's like a little thing with a hook on it
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: that it feels like it's for sharks.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know what those are called. Yeah, I don't
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: know what they're called.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: So he goes and he spears the first mate so casually,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: and he just.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Looks like he's just like the long face had the
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: long face guy.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just like casually dies and then Jason
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: slits the captain's throat.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Oh no, that wasn't the long face that was the
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: first mate. Yeah. Yeah, he's the first mate to death,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: and then the captain. Yeah, he like gently slices the
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: captain's throat and then the captain's throat folds open. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I mean if they had Tom Savina would have looked better, dude. Oh,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I totally would have looked better.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: It feels like they cut before the blood came out,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: and then the blood comes out very late.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: It's kind of weird because it's violent and there's a
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: lot of viscera, not a lot of gore, but some gore,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: and it's cut away from fast gore. Yeah. So I
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: don't know it, like, I feel like we've really been
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: removed now from a lot of like super gory Jason,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Like we don't have falling onto a knife skull Jason.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: There's like so many decapitations and shit like that. It's
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: still it doesn't really like.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: It's very gentle. Yeah, which is weird for say, for
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: a murderer.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's kind of a tame Jason.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: It's very tame. And then.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Sean tamely takes his dad's mantle and is like, I'm
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: going to save people on the boat. Come meet us
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: on the deck, guys.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: He announces something on over the intercom, and suddenly the
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: rest of the crew that's left on this boat is
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: now like everyone who's still alive is now together. They're together,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: and it's not a lot of people. It's way less
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: people than we have already known about.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Julius and his team mate's two of his.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Teammates's boxing friends.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: It's the your doomed guy, it's the creepy uncle, it's
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Missus van Dusen. Immediately the uncle is like, that creepy man,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: he must be the murderer.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: And it's like he mentioned Jason, it must mean he's
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: a copycat because we are aware in this series of
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: coffeecat Jason absolutely and also dead people don't walk around. Yeah,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: he's very much a firm believer that he's a true
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: skeptic dude, because the thing the YouTube skeptic.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: The reason I like him as a character is because
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: there's complexity. There's like a weirdo who's kind of a pervert.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: There's a guy who's like trying to maintain some sort
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: of stability in some.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Order, whereas like everybody kind of like Julius kind of
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: has a character. He's like, I guess a boxer dude,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: like grad confident, graduating high school, like confident in his skills. Well,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: like he gets like a pretty sweet hero moment I
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: would say, yeah. Like also one of the most like
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: insane kills of the series. I think, yeah, absolutely, like
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: such a weird trauma silly, totally totally just like had
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: to punch up missus.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Van Duson also is like she's like trying to help
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: this girl. She's like trying to elevate her like writing,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: but like the writing has nothing to do with anything
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: in the movie, no.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Other than her having a fountain pen off from eBay
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: a writer exactly. I mean.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: It's also feels like two movies mushed together, because like,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: we're forty minutes into this, we've only been on a boat.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: None of this has taken place in Manhattan.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: It is it is movies mush together. It feels like
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I must have been dude, it must have been separate idea.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Somebody like wrote something. There was like a treatment or something.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: It was incomplete, and they just shoved Jason in this.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: There was so much twistyhead Jason in this too. Oh
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: he kept twisty heading and he was like very I
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: was like, whoa lurified twisty head.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, like so much twisty head, dude, And he was
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: done in the new metal way done, Like I guess
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: this was proto new metal dude.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I've been saying, I've been telling. I'm not asking, I'm telling, Yeah,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: you're right. Then and then Sean, the genius that he is,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: is like, hey, Rennie, go put the fucking uh hooks?
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: What are the anchors down in this storm?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: He wants?
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: And then and then yes, the uncle smartly, he is
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: the smartest character. This is the He's a bad person.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: He's a bad person, but he's the smartest of all
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: of those Okay, why and.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: He because he's like, what are you doing down here?
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: What are you putting fucking anchors down in this storm?
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: In a storm? A writer totally because she's only a writer,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: like you can't use that head of yours. And because
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: the sun I guess, like he doesn't know what to do.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: He doesn't know what to do in this snow. Yeah. No,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: and that's why it was like it wasn't He didn't
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: even pay off that he was like a boat guy,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: a boat guy, but which she does actually like he's
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: able to like, is he able to guide them through
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: the storm? Yeah, for sure, Yeah he is. Well he's
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: able to. Yes, he is able to guide him through
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: the storm, gets them back on course. Yeah. Yeah.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: The Asian girl that was doing cocaine with.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: She didn't do any of the cocaine.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Wasn't doing cocaine, but indignantly was like I want to
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: be a cool kid.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She now knows that she doesn't want to hang
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: out with her friend anymore. Well, she wants to know
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: where her friend is, but because Jason, but no, she
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: sees that that her friend has been stabbed, yes, on
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: the bathroom floor, and then Jason is looming and staring
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: at her and and it's hallway, Jason.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: It's hallway Jason. Jason catches up to her very quickly.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: And in this spinning room, I love the Spinning room and.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: The light Star Trek. It felt like the next generation
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: kind of vibes.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: And I really like the speed of Jason in this
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: where where when he like rips open the doors and
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: the camera just like Dolly's into him and you're just like,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: oh my.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: God, where's Jason. He's so giant and he's teleporting. He's
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: so he was just he was teleporting a lot in
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: this scene because he's like suddenly not in the room
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: and they do like a three sixty yeah, and then
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: and then he and then he just the neck and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: like strangles. Sorry I guess to death. Yep.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Man, this wide where's he's on the dance floor and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: he just chucks the body.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: That was cool. I was down. When does he jump
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: through the window like and in the way that he
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: usually tosses people. We also finally get Jason tossing. He
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: tosses that bigger guy than him. And because of the physics,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: because it's now like Judge read physics, but wait dash more. Yeah,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: your seats baby once a screamer. I really like this
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: when we laughed when Julius gets all the weapons and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: he's like he throws them down.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: He's like, pick your weapons, and they're like, what are
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: you going to take?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Nothing? But this gun. I loved Julius. I mean he
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: didn't use a bullet. Then he cocked the gun. Classic move.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Well he's got to do a move, you know, but
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: he does have to do a move. Of course. Speaking
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: of doing moves, this weener Crispin Glover guy fucking using
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: his camera and then like he loses his glasses, my glasses.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Oh it's a very my glasses moment. Yeah, and then
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: he starts using he's mill pooling all over the place
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: and like, yeah, he gets like boring killed by Jason. No,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: what he does is he murders the handsome dude you
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: were talking about, long face handsome. He murders long face handsome.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: That's right, because he.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Can't see and then he looks through the camera to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: see the dead body and God, and then he sees Jason,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: which I loved. I thought this was well as a kill,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: but just as like as a kill in general, like
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: for Jason, it's pretty boring because getting.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Kind of a morality in like Danny wall Ruins. Now,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: like we're in the last movie the doctor Doctor Druz
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: tries to get the Jason to kill the mom and
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, and this one, a wrong guy gets killed
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: other than Jason, totally yeah. Uh.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: He takes Crispin. After Crispin finds his dead metal head girlfriend.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: He Jason picks him up and throws him into some
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: circuitry where he catches on fire and the boat catches
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: on fire.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah he like his pants are on fire. Yeah yeah,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: And then Jason's the good man that he is, he
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: pulls the emergency because he doesn't want to burn the boat.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Dude, don't want to burn the boat down, like weirdly
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: like megananimous Jason like or I guess he just wants
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: to be able to like continue his murder spree of
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: like they're the last ones? What do you mean? Who
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: is the last one? You say, what are you? What
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: do you want? So I thought part eight, I thought
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Jason takes Manhattan was the heart one. Dude, No, the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: next one is the heart one. Okay, it's Jason.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: This melted body I think goes through the pipes of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Manhattan and then he has to return home or something.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: I think that's what the ninth one is about. Jason
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: goes home, goes home, I think, and he like barfs
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: himself into different people or something. Oh okay, I think
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: that's something. Okay, well we'll see part nine. And then
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: like the cool jacket guy, the Weiener friend of Christmas
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Glover thrown onto some like wires. That's such a boring kill.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: That's such a boring kill.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Pushed onto wires Jason. Yeah. And then and then.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Julius with the gun is like searching around and he
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: just gets thrown into the water, later to be come
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: back on the boat.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I well, I kind of like I like that.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: The moment that Julius gets like kind of like does
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: laurify him. It could like even though it's like this
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: guy he's just like wants to be a cool boxer,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: but like suddenly gets cool, you know, like he does
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: get cool, like he totally totally.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: And then we see Rennie in her room where Jason
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: as a young boy appears and he's like shaking his
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: hands and he's just like I didn't like this, so
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: money helped me. It looked like it was like a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: goosebumps of his.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Very and then she's like and he's so goofy too,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: and he has that like one like like forward goopy.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I yeah, totally.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: And then she like is like peering out the window
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: and Jason bashes through.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: It's like it's too much. The problem with it isn't
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: that she's got PTSD. And she's like.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Because like, the problem isn't that she's got PTSD and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: she's seeing young Jason. The problem is is that they're
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: making it seem like she's got a mental connection with
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: current Jason because she stabs Jason in the eye. And
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: then it's Stephen King's Fountain Stephen Kingsound Fountain pen and
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: then young ghost Jason there's a close up of him
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: and he's like disappears and it's like, but like, is
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: it because she stabbed.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Him in the eye?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Is it because like they have a connection.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: No, it's because they have the lake connection from when
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: she was drowning. We'll just sleep you till me you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: will trown it. It's so dumb.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: Hand you can mien knowing mean it's Alvin.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Back night.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Sean comes in after the boats are starting to blow
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: up and She's like, oh my god, Rennie, we have
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: to get to missus van Dusen into the and get
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: the other people on the boat somewhere, I guess. And
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: the boat's now sinking, it's got like water like coming
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: through it. They're all like separated too, And the uncle
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: grabs the gun and is like, I'm going to take
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: care of this myself. I'm going to shoot that vagrant
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: who I think is Jason pretending to be and he does.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: He wants to shoot him, right, he wants to murder
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: him so bad.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so very very very strange, dude.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: But then the you're doomed guy who he wants to
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: murder comes comes out with a knife and then he
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: just like pushes him out and no, no, no he doesn't
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: die yet.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Doesn't even axe in his back. No, no, they just
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: got a knife and that that's supposed to like clue,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I guess the uncle that he is the murder. The
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: uncle starts suddenly face recognizing and getting skeptical. Hecase, there's
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: getting you tube skeptical when when like because like something
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: the kid says to him, Sean says like, we have
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: to do this, you know it's true, and he's like
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: huh he like face realizes that it's true. What is it?
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: What?
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: What? What is that part?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Well, what do you What happens is, uh, they have
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: to yeah, they have to go on to the dinghies and.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Leave right right right. Oh yeah, yeah. He's like, you
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: know it's true. God, you know it's true. Oh, I
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: love you.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: And then Jason Jason looks down at them in the dinghy. Uh,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: and Julius comes back onto the boat and they like
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: paddle away and then the the fucking I mean, honestly,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: this is when the uncle was like, all right, dude,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: like I fucking saved us. I got us on the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: dinghy and now we'rely and he's like we're in fog.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Now you don't know where we are. You can't save us.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Weirdly like unheld, my god, dude, No, It's like it
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: does remind me of Triangle of Sadness in the sense
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: that like there's this there's that scene where like the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: guy doesn't realize that he's no longer in a position
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: of power in this dynamic old lady yeah, and she's
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: now the new person because she's the one who can
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: get the food. And I thought that was like cool
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: and great movie. I think this movie doesn't make that
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: same realization. Yeah, dude, that movie is two hours, two hours,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: like forty minutes long.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it felt like a breeze.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Compared to this movie. Dude. Later on with the with
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the Kills, especially the New York stuff, dude, I was like,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: oh man, I'm so checked out, so done with dude.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: It's an hour in before they get to New York
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: and it's.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Like New York, New York, and then Jason just appears.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: He just appears. He just like walked, which would be
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: a cool like honestly appears in New York, is what
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: you're saying.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he just like comes to the doc, comes to
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: the dock.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: He just wis He just walked all walked all that way,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: which would be a sick shot.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Imagine like uh like yeah, filled in with just but
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: like a huge, huge wide shot with him very small
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: and just like walking.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: That would be sick. That would make this movie awesome.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I would love it just for that scene,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: just for that scene. Yeah, how did they get it? It
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: was it was an iconic scene. No, but like they
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: couldn't make it that.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: They would never be able to. Yeah, and then Jason
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: comes out and twisty heads because he sees a big
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: hockey mask because it's Vancouver, dude. Hockey is a very
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Canadian sport.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Oh dude, man, Like it was so weird, the cheating,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: the Vancouver stuff. They did a pretty good job. They
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: did a pretty good and like me struggling to say that,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: like of like, okay, I can know overlook the cops
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Canadian accent, his strong Canadian accent. But yeah, just like
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: the New York vagrants. Yeah, the two.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Goons that are like I'm gonna give these people heroin
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: and then and rape them.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Take their money. This is what people in the nineties
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: and eighties thought that, like poverty was is like shooting
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: drugs into you and like fucking torturing you. Why would
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: anyone ever want to do that?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Would anybody want to waste their drugs on you?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make anything. They want to give you drugs,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: It's like, what are you talking? Well, I guess if
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: they're trying to take advantage of her or like sexually
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: assault he or whatever. But like I was like in
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: this dirty it was so gross. It was so gross,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh no, the yellow heroin. Yeah.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then just immediately waste their heroin.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: They're just like, you know, they Sean picks up the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: crappy necklace that he gave her after the vagrants take
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: her and take away, and then they're just like, well,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: let's split up, split.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Up and find a phone. What It wasn't even clear
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: that that's what they were looking for, totally unclear. Wait
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: a minute, you're not going to find this woman. Hold on,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: You're calmly saying let's split up, right after you've seen
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: your niece get abducted by two weird vagrants who heavily
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: implied that they want to like have sex with her.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Then they want to rape that. And I was just like,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: holy fucking ship.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, dude, holy shit, this fucking Phil from YTV
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: looking guy.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Oh man, total TV Phil. I mean fill with the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: long hair, not with the spiky hair, dude. I remember
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: the spike here when he when he cut his hair.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I was a little bit devastated. Of course, the ponytail,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: the icon dude, of course.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Speaking icons. Fucking Jason. After she shoots up Heroin, he
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: fucking takes that AIDS infested and stabs it through philm.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Well, dude, I mean, like it was the eighties. You don't,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: you don't maybe that's like maybe that they probably gave
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: her HIV.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: It says on the needle, dude, this needle has given
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: you a didn't you have been infected by HIV?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Of course she looked up at the She looked up
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: at the theater seat and was like, you have now
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: been affect. It was such horrible fear mongering and specifically
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: like fear mongering and like people fear against gay people
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: being like they fucking deserve it.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: They were, dude, those same on them. They were so
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: excited for monkey Box to hit to They were like tasting,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: oh man, we can have another gay panic.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Dude, Oh my god.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: But now everything's a fucking conspiracy, so it just doesn't matter.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Well, not not only that, but like the gay community
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: handled the monkey Pock's outbreak incredibly well by vaccinating immediately,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: all getting vaccinated. Yeah, and it like helped kerbit immediately,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: as opposed to the fucking psychos who did get their vaccines. Well,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you don't know what Jason say
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: about that, du.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Jason believes in vaccination. That's why he vaccinated
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: this man.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I mean some would say that the reason that Jason
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: was the way he was was because of vaccines.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, not reckcon Jason, but the regular, regular Jason.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: He beats up the other man by shoving his head
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: into steaming a steaming pipe of some kind. Uh, and
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: Rennie runs away. Rennie runs away.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Rennie runs away, Rennie runs away. No, but he's been
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: treated more than Julius. On the other hand, my man,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Julius fucking finds a phone.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: And then run pulls himself up, which I believe Julius
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: can do. I don't believe that that Jason's mush hands can.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: He's strong, but these guys are. Yeah, but he's so
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: beefy dude, like like you pull up well, if Kane
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Hotter cannot do a pull up, I refuse to believe Kate.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: I don't I think he can. Dude, he's so strong, Dude,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: are you kidding? He didn't matter? Dude? Pull ups are hard.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: You can be strong and not be able to do
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: a pull up. No, I think he's with the muscle
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: mass that he has, he's able to lift his.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: With the muscle mass that he has. I'm saying that
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: he can't because he's got so much mass. He's probably never.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Gonna make any sense. Dude, he's strong, he can do it.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean anything, Dude, being strong is a different strength,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: like physically, and he got that.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Much well, he got the muscles by being able to
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: pull up his own body weight. I think he can
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: pull up maybe even more than his own body weight. No,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. The Jason, not Kane Hotter. Jason.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe Part two Jason, maybe even Part three Jason, but
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: anything post part three.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know. I don't know if
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know you, I don't know if I agree
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: But this fight scene, he's fucking outrageous. They set up
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: the boxing. This is the only third time this movie
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: pays off. Is Julius is set up as a boxer,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: so he fucking boxes Jason.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Sorry, boxes boxes Jason to the ledge of the building
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: in a very like Sarah Connor Terminator to esque way,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: which had not come out at this point, and he
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: was inspired. But you know what had come out, dude,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: is we see a shot of a logo for the
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Batman movie in this movie, which is glorified Batman and Jason, Yeah,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: it was in the Times Square I did. I thought
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: we should mention that, oh yeah, the best joker, undoubtedly undefeated,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: will never be defeated. The best joker, Jack Nicholson. I
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: refuse to engage in any argument about it.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I still think he's a Romero. But you
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: have your options, dude, I have mine. I love a
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: painted I.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Think Jack Nicholson, I love a painted much. I love
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I think Jack Nicholson is the best, dude, the best.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Anybody who says otherwise is living to themselves. They and
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: they absolutely and like people who are like I don't
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: take people who say that Heath Ledgers joker is the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: best seriously, and I don't take people who say I
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: definitely don't take people who say that the fucking Vandal
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: a joker is good. I don't think art Vandal, Yeah,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: that's not joker, that's bullshit.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: I might even say he was inspired by another ah Fleck,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: maybe Ben Fleck.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Uh uh. Julius gets his fucking head punched off off
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: into a garbage chan that closes upon impact. Yep. So yeah,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: that's now something that's possible in the Jason universe. And
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: you know what, it's a cool shot because it seems
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: like Julius is still alive for those moments for us
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: to see her from his POV of his own head
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: spinning into the garbage, they do kind of imply that
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: he's still weirdly alive. Yeah, I don't know, but it's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: so insane. Yeah, what happens after that?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Rennie and Sean find each other and they they find
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: each other and a cop with a very thick Canadian
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: accent who loves man.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: He probably moved to New York, very very thick, like insane. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? Uh?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: And he points a gun at missus van Dusen and
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: he's and the uncle is like, she's with me. Now,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: let's go find my daughter that I'm molested. He he,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: And they find each other. They all find each other
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: and they're like really happy to see each other, and
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: they all get into the police car and then Jason
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: fucking murders the cop by strangling him with the.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: First he leaves the head of He allows them to
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: discover the head of Julius in the car. Oh yeah,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: the punched off.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the punched off, shriveled head in the car. Yeah,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: outrageous Jason doing moves doing Freddy like setting things up.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Well, no, he's set up like dead bodies before Jason,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: that's but not in this like silly way, like not
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: a weird head, shrunken head Jason totally. And Rennie gets
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: into the front seat of the car and drives towards
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: Jason so that she can like kill him, but then
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: envisions him as this was actually a really cool shot.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: I thought this was really awesome, but envisions him as
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: a young boy, and then it's like freeze frame like
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: it's like almost like somebody cranked up the post production
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: slow mo to like just be a frame per second,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: and then it cuts to him as a young boy,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: fully melted, like one frame at a time. And then
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: they crash the car and it just explode. They all.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Jason jumps out of the way, and then she crashes
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: the car.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone manages to escape except for Missus van
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: Dusen van Dusen, who explodes in the car. Like cars
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: automatically always had to explode on impact, and this movie's
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: no different. Dude. There's like puddles of what's clearly gasoline
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: all around the car in this controlled blaze. All right, guys,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: we're doing we're doing the fire scene today, so we
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: got to go through the safety protocols. Hey you listening, okay,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: a safety protocols. I'm the first ad Era. Hi, I'm Joe.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: But they did this very cool thing where in one
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: of the puddles, one of the fire puddles, you see
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: like a little tiny dinghy, and we get a perfectly
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: perfectly deaged uncle with a young Rennie and he's like,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: you know, Jason died in this lake.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: He's like weirdly scaring her with Jason. He's telling her
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: the story of Scary Barney. Dude, scary it's the very
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: scary Barney. And he's like traumatizing her and she's like,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: she's like, that's not true. Yes, don't scare me. Are
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: saying it.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Jason's gonna pull you down if you don't learn how
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: to swim. And Jason does try and pull her down.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: Melted disgusting Jason. He looks like Gallum, dude, Yeah, it
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: looks like Gollum.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Jason. Yeah, he's like the like he's like Buffy from
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: the water bloat. It's what like bleeds into the mask.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: This is like the continued lord, dude, it's like the
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: mask bloating into the face.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: And then the fire dies down and her hair is
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: just amazing, just amazing.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: It just looks like great, it's getting better and better.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like, you did it. You've cut out
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: his brain new bloody bamoon. He looks like a nineteen
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: sixties actor. He looks like out of that time totally.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: But she Yeah.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: She basically confronts her uncle about traumatizing her in the lake,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: and she like has been having visions of Jason, I
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: guess since and then she pushes him down and he's
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: like disappointed. And then Jason comes to kill him, and
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: he like old man gently runs away into like a
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: factory and then somehow, somehow in the factory on the
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: top and throws his body, the old man's body, out
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: of the window and I'm still alive. The guy's still alive.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: And then he Jason picks him up and puts him
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: into a toxic waste goo thing.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: To death. Yeah. Yeah, he puts him in the toxic
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: waste bin and yeah, that's it, that's it, that's it. Yeah.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: And then Rennie sits down on a disgusting couch because
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: she's tired from all the hair and abuse. Uh, and
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Sean is like I.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Read was wondering about it. I read it could last
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: the effects of nodding off could last four to five hours. Oh,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: there you go.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: So she's nodding off, and then he kisses her as
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: she's nodding off because he's like, when am I ever
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: going to do this again? We're both gonna die. And
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: then Jason comes back and is like chasing them through
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: New York and not killing anybody else, smashing through fucking
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: because it's the last of the children. Dude, Dude, When
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: he was I thought it was great. When he was
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: like just like barreling through doors, I was like, this
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: is amazing.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: But none of the kids that were at Crystal Lake
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: had anything to do with each other. They were usually
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: never from there. No, they were all from out out
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: of town so or they were mental hospital kids or
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: like they was like totally or they were like random
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: like like his three punks or they or they were
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: greaser types.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Dude, Absolutely, yeah, totally, one hundred percent. Jason is like
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: barreling through New York and then they finally get on
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: a subway, which maybe you're right, maybe it's not Toronto,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: maybe it is.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe they I think it's just Van. Yeah, maybe it
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: is maybe Van manat Van. Yeah, Jason takes Manhattan. Uh.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: And then Jason is just like going through subway cars,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: chasing these people for some reason, bullying his way pushing.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: He's chasing, yeah, bullying his way through it for some reason.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: The physics of this doesn't make any sense. The he
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: pulls the emergency, Yeah.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: He's helium, Jason. That it shows you that he's hollow, dude.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: And then they get out and Jason falls on the
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: third rail and probably smells really bad.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: So I remember, obviously the talk of the town around
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: kids when we were when we were younger was third rail,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: the third rail, dude, you can't touch the third rail.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: And dude, I think i've now remember that being the
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: same conversation as the Cane Hodder playground conversation of Jason.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe they were talking about the third rail for this
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: very reason. That's true, that's true when they were saying
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: that it because everybody, as kids, said that Caine Hodters
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: goated go to Jason, and I guess he was for
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: our generation dude. Yeah, dude, this is our generation of
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: of Jason. Jason. It's just Jason. And then this this.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: Last shot where they come out of the subway, out
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: of the Vancouver subway into Manhattan Van and it's like
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: the clearly the most expensive shot of the movie where
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: they like panorama around New York.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: New York City.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking Times Square, Yeah, Times Square. But then they
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: leave and Jason quickly follows after them and they panorama
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: around him too. This was a sick shot though, Like
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: he looks really cool in this completely and he looks
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: very new metal, very very new metal.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very it's the most the mind free uh.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: And he like chases them down, he chases them down.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: He sees the street he knocked over the hip hop punkers.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah. First it's like he passes by some
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: black guys but they don't mess with him. And then
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: he passes by some like punky white guys, one of
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: whom looks like a Nazi, like a Neoah, it's his skinhead.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: He definitely looks like a skinhead. But but they're listening
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: to hip hop and so we.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: And he scares them with his face which he unmush
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: gushes the mask off his face from behind.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: Mind you, we don't we don't see it. We don't
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: see it until later later on, but I was wondering
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: if they were just teasing the face. Oh, it's just
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: your face.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: And honestly, I gotta say, this lady who puts her
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: cigarette out in somebody's food that they didn't eat, makes
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: me really fucking hate smokers even more. That were no no, no, no,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: no no in restaurants, Like it's one thing to smoke
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: weed in your house, it's another thing to put your
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: disgusting cigarett at out in somebody else's food and then
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: take it away and then be like like not saving
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: two people who are clearly terrified, and they're like, welcome
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: to New York. It is such a like man, And also.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Like New York wasn't like this anymore at this point,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't even I don't know. It
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: feels like very much channeling like seventies New York.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally uh. And then the guy who I guess
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: owns the restaurant, who's very tall and giant and seems
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: like he could take Kane Hodder gets talking thrown against
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: the window.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: How did they do that? How did they think that?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: I think they just threw him. I think he just
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: actually threw himself would like you like went into the glass. Yes, tense.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: It was awesome. Yeah, it was a really really good.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: In a movie that didn't deserve that. Shots like that yeaheah,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: because they are like they're like running through all of
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: New York and then Jon finally catches them in.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Like an alleyway where they have to like go down
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: a manhole.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, and now it's like this is very terminator.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: This is like terminator factory part.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: And then they see an old man who's like, they're
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: releasing toxic waste down here.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: You're old doomed. Yeah. Basically, yeah, oh man, the toxic waste.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: That as soon as the toxic waste happened, I was like,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: oh man, like weirdly, weirdly like disappointed, like Jason, like
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I it's like, was it really on board?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, but we're okay with Freddy getting
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: this silly I am. I.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: It's not even the silliness that bothers me. What bothers
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: me is the in lack of cohesiveness of it all. Yeah,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: it's so oh two movies put together, it feels flailing.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: The entire movie feels flailing and just disappointing. He murders
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: this old man, uh terribly off screen, you pointed.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Out, Yeah, it's like a shadow shadow, and like they
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: didn't they didn't really like measure out the physics of
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: the shadow. So where the hit lands. When Jason like
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: bears down onto the guy, it doesn't really like look
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: like it landed on his head, which it didn't. And
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: then she points Rennie points her flashlight at him and
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: is like, Jason, come follow me or whatever. And then
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: she runs down a hallway where there's just a can
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: of toxic waste and she breaks and she breaks it
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: and pours it on Jason's face, which melts it. Yeah,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Like it knocks the mask off. And then the most
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: insane looking Jason, well he actually takes the mask off. Oh,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: he takes it off. Yeah, and it's just like the
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: puffy goo monster. There's no face. It looks kind of
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit like the like, what's the what's the
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: bad guy in Harry Potter without a nose? Oh Slytherin, No,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: it is God. People are gonna hate us. Wow, who
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: cares Harry Potter? Yeah, Harry Potter sucks. There is a
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: name I forget. You're not allowed to say his name.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: I guess if we were allowed to say it, I
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: would have remembered it. So fuck Slytherin. And yeah, but
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: he kind of looks like that face like it's like
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit goo, but it's kind of puppet because
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: like the mouth is just like the jaw is almost
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: like unhinged, and it's like he looks like a Tommy
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Knocker or something. It does look like a Tommy Knocker.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: And then he starts barfing water and he's like, drown me.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: And then like the toxic waste is coming at this
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: starts like puppet Jim Henson, puppet bar to it was like,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: and he starts melting and then he's melted so much
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: that he's just the little boy underneath. Well no, first
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: he's melted so much that he's an adults man underneath
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: that he's a little and then he's a little boy. Yeah,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: because he's going to hell. I guess, oh, maybe this
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: is the spirit disintegrating. I guess, I don't know. And
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: then the lightning hits the sea and tower, not the tower,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: the a statue of liberty, you know, but he does
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: have an adult man hand first, you know. I I
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: I like have been to New York, like I think
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: seven or eight times, and I've never gone to the
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: Statue of Liberty. No, I want to go to the statue.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: I don't really care to see it. I don't know.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's cool, kind of cool. Yeah, it's like
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: a copper it used to be copper. Yeah, but then
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: can you imagine what it would look like if it
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't green. Yeah, if they just like refinished it or whatever,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: that'd be cool. But they like rubbed. I think it's
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: like horse piss or something, gets it back, something like that. Anyway,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Sean gives her this crappy necklace back and the dog
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: comes back and she's like dog and like the audience
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: is like, huh, forgot about that? Yeah exactly, and then
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: they just walk away. And yeah, I mean, I guess
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: they survived. More people survived in a very unsatisfying way.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: In fact, going through the movie again makes me fucking
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: hate it even more. Really, Yeah, I don't like I'm
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: not I don't have that much. And I feel very
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: neutral towards the movie. I was like, I didn't like it.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a good Jason movie. Are
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: we done? Yeah, that's the end. Of the movie. Right
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: the credits role there's an eighties song that plays. We
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: saw some interesting names in the credits, including that the
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: little kid Jason was Serbian. Yeah, so you know that's
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: that's something, or he had like a he had a
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: beach name. I might not with an age at the end,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: you don't, we don't can't count the Canadian islands, No,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I'm joking. Yeah, Okay, so intentions Jason showing off his
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: face to terrify people Jason, weird torture, porn, less of
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: a motivation Jason, and also pulling the communications cables Jason
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: and setting up the like Severn. There's just like too
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: many things that were done in not enough of a Jason.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: But I liked Kane Hotter's performance. I liked his body performance,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I liked his loominess every time he Jason was on
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: screen as Kane Hotter Jason, I was on board, Like
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: I was on board with a lot of his moves,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of like him showing up randomly, him being
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, I like, I was still
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: sold on the magic of Jason in the movie. Yeah,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: and like weirdly in my head and in my heart,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: all of the weird stuff about this movie is laurified.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: Even though I didn't like the movie, I'm like, well,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: now it's a part of the law. If I was
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: a kid, I would have been like, I accept this law.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, totally, Yeah, I know what you mean.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: I just I felt a little bit disappointed by the
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: movie and thusly disappointed by Jason, and like, I totally
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: recognize the factors that you're into. I think that they're
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: true factors, and I will write them accordingly. Okay, well,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: why don't we rate it out of Jason's How many
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: muchetas would you give it? Man? The editor was named
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: Steve Mitkovich too. Do you think there was a related
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: they might have been? Do you think, come on, get
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: your uncle job? The kid gets the uncle. It's okay,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: So jason I kills were audacious but boring. Okay, He's
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: got a good body performance but not used well.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: No used okay, so weirdly written, Jason, weirdly written. Jason
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: not mask forming into the skull, Jason, I prefer my
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: my mask fused to the skull.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, but that's not happened yet. No, it happened last time.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: Was like it was sort of like, oh, because it
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: was goofy. So some interesting choices were made for certain characters,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: but like overall kind of like boring. But in terms
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: of just Jason's I'm probably gonna give it a six. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: that's a compelling way of putting it. I saw so
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: much of him in this and and.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: Like it was like a little bit like underwhelm underwhelmed. Yeah,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Well maybe we saw too much. Maybe it's like Jason,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: like you know, the whole reason Jason was scary earlier
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: on as you see him less than you have to
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: see him more and more because he becomes more and
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: more of the main character. But also like the motivation
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: seemed a little weird. Seeing Jason as a normal kid
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: or like a normal not like a mush face kid
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: felt a little bit weird in a like a retcon
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: kind of way, in a like jarring kind of way.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Having him be ghost but also be like a person.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: Who's kind of psychically connected bothered me because it didn't
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: pay off. I just feel like he was a little disappointing.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Jason was Jason was a little bit and then at
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: the end, like when he got to do like like
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: you know, just power through Jason I was like, okay,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: like this is cool and like fighting big dudes. I
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, but like boxing Jason, boxing someone's head off, Jason, Like.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: This felt like a little bit like yeah, like it
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: felt a little bit freddy in a bad way.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a part four way. Yeah, I feel you. I'm
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: right here. Yeah. I was gonna give it a seven,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: but I think you're right. I think it's it doesn't
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: deserve more than a six. In fact, maybe even less
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: than a six. Yeah, and I give the movie a four.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, Yeah, I felt it found it boring. It
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: was boring. It was it was boring. I would give
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: it a four two, maybe even a three. Yeah, it's bad.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: It's a bad movie. It's a bad movie. But but
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: but it didn't do anything with the lore. But it
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: didn't do anything with the character as a little kid.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: I would have been confused about it. Yeah, and I
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: might I was confused. I might have liked parts of it, yeah,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: and I might have been tied to parts of it.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: I would have recognized that it wasn't as good as
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: some of the others, but I would have wanted to
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: go to bat for it. Maybe because it takes some
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: brave swings Jason in another place. Yea boat. Like the
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: boat stuff is interesting.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: It just didn't pay off the boats due Yeah.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: It didn't have to go to boats to go to boats,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: but it goes to boats. It didn't.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: It didn't even do like like New York that well.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: No, that's why I said, like it gets away with
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: it pretty good, like like it's a pass. Yeah, I believe.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: I believe that it might be New York. A little
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: kid me believed that it was New York.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little kid me believed Rumblin the Bronx was in.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: The Bronx and it was in Vancouver too.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, ultimately, like a four, I was bored.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: The only reason that I.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: Kept interested was because, like we watched together.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: Which is a rarity for these Jason movies.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not good, not cool, very uncool, not cool Jason.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, and like trying trying kind of pathetically
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: to follow the trends of like the hair metal styles. Yeah,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: and like throwing in like the eighties songs and the
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: songs with like Jason themes. Also, it's just like a
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: song about Freddy works way better than a song about Jason. Yeah,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: totally have to be like you know docin Dream Warriors.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Nothing's gonna talk.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: To absolutely because he would he's an arc.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: He would have a song. Yeah, Jason doesn't need a song.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason doesn't need a song. It's it also like
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: robbed a lot of the sort of sympathetic elements of
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: Jason and didn't do anything well enough to like bring it.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Like it's a lower score. Yeah, yeah, it didn't do
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: anything to bring it back.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: You're right, the kid, the kid didn't feel like the kid.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: He didn't feel like he followed that.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't believe, Like when he kept showing up,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, who is this that this was never Jason? Yeah,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: this guy never was Jason. No, No, he wasn't. Yeah,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: And so like it's weird. It's just weird to like
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: the stuff that they decided to red con. Yeah, it
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: just didn't work. But like I don't know now, I
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: guess we're like we're in a post good Jason world
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: until we get to the remake. I've heard. I don't know,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: But what are some of your expectations for Eating the Heart? Jason?
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember so many of these because your
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: favor No, the Space one's your favorite. No, the Space
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: one's not my favorite. Wait well, in terms of like
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: what favorite, what well, isn't the there's one of them
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: that's Pantheon for you.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: I thought I thought this was the Eating the Heart.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: I thought this was Eating the hard I think I
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: think the next one is is what I remember, but like.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: The next one is the only one I remember.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: So a lot of them are just like mush together now.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: Like because I didn't I never saw the Space one,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: but I did see the Eating the Heart one, the
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: Space one. I remember. We saw the Eating the Heart
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: one at the Nils. We've definitely I don't remember that,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: but I definitely remember seeing it with We've definitely seen
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: it together. Oh dude. Yeah, And it's like a security
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: because we never liked Jason. We never that was like
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: the only Jason we saw it. We'd never liked Jason. No,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: we would have like if we saw part six, Yeah,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: if we saw part I'll tell you this, if we
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: saw part three two, and we would have totally horrified
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: all of those totally horrified easily. And for me now
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: I can say safely because there are those are the
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: that's the the bulk of the series that even I
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: would include Part two. I would retroactively include Part two definitely.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: Part one never terrible, one of the worst part ones
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Yeah, and not even retroactively good. The
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: only the good was the ten Pamela Orkis is the
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: only Yeah, and we get that and the other we
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: get the whole Part two, Yeah, it doesn't so it
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the second one. I think that probably the second
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: or third one of the best ones as movies. I
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: think the lore building happens the best from four to six.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: And I would include a little bit Part seven because
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: it includes I would say Part seven. I like, I
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: think Part seven. Part seven was very good.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: I think Part seven is my favorite.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: I think Part seven might be my favorite too.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's the best one.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: I think it's the best one. Yeah, I think just
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: like as a personal favorite, it's my favorite.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: But but I would say two and three.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: Of the best movies, like the most well made, sure.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like as like, oh these are like tight, you
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? But yeah, this one's just like
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: really disappointing on a lot of fronts. Yeah, it's like
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: pretty shitty. Jason dudeeah and next his nineties Jason Dude,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna say I think ten is gonna be awesome?
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: Which one David Cronenberg, Jason is it? David was in it? Man, Well,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited about that. I'm also excited about part nine.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: I'm I feel like part nine might be cool. I
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: Eating the Heart, Eating the Heart, Yeah, dude.
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• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: I mean I would have rather watched The man Freddie
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: Man Jason. It was so I was dreading. I was
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: dreading it the whole time. Yeah, I I but you know,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: like even the first forty I was like, this is
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: a little boring.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: I think. I think still you got to think about it.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: You're not thinking fourth dimensionally when we talk about it.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: It's funny, and it was. It was. It was. It's
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: an interesting exploration of lore because it like does try
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: to do a lot with the lore in a way
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: that made sense for a little kid.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a raw deal for me, dude, it is.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: It's no doubt a raw deal. But I'm just telling
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: you there's something still interesting about the law about Jason's Law.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally. I'm excited for the next one because
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: it's like melted body Jason now having to be measured
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: like they measured COVID through the feces in the you know,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: you know what they measured the feces of course, and
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: now they're going to measure the amount of Jason's that
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: are in it, and you're gonna rate it out of Jason.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: They're gonna ride out of Jason's, dude. But you know
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Jason's are coming back, dude. There there's a lot of
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: feces Jason. Dude. Yeah, like this movie, See you next week. Bye,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: mm hm oh mm, hmmm hmmmm