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How the Giants' formula has been successful | Countdown to Kickoff · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: We're with Bob Popa, the voice of the Giants on
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  Speaker 1: the w f A n Giants Radio Network. The Giants
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  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars coming up in week number seven. The Giants,
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  Speaker 1: I think are the surprise of the league at five
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  Speaker 1: and one, And Bob, who saw this coming in New York?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody know that There isn't a lot of people in
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  Speaker 1: the building that are surprised. Uh, you know, coming off
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  Speaker 1: this horrendous five year stretcher with the Giants and Jets
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  Speaker 1: have the had the worst records in the NFL now
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  Speaker 1: going back to the start of two thousand seventeen and
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  Speaker 1: four wins last season, and now, like of the Giants
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  Speaker 1: there five and one, they have three double digit come
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  Speaker 1: from behind victory's four fourth quarter comebacks. They're off to
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  Speaker 1: their best start since two thousand nine when Tom Coffin
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  Speaker 1: was head coach. Of course that year they finished eight
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  Speaker 1: and eight and missed the playoffs. Uh, so you know
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  Speaker 1: they're doing it in a pretty cool style. Is that
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  Speaker 1: sustainable for the long haul? Yeah, it's sustainable for the
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  Speaker 1: talent level that they have. So what the players have
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  Speaker 1: on is and and Brian Dable the head coach, and
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  Speaker 1: Carl Banks and I would do a lot of TV
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  Speaker 1: shows and stuff together with coach. We've gotten to know
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  Speaker 1: them pretty well. And uh, they know what they have,
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  Speaker 1: they know what their roster is. They know that there
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  Speaker 1: are two guys that they started wide receiver probably would
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  Speaker 1: not make most other teams, let alone start, but the
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  Speaker 1: players have bought into this mindset of make the game ugly,
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  Speaker 1: dirty and muddy, and then see where we are in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. It's funny because the before the Monday
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  Speaker 1: night game it MetLife Stadium, which ironically was the only
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  Speaker 1: one that the Giants lost. Dabl walks out, team comes out.
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  Speaker 1: Carl and I are standing on the sideline getting ready
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  Speaker 1: to do our radio hit, and he walks over and
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  Speaker 1: he's like, hey, look, I told the guys we're not pretty.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to be the ones that are picked
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  Speaker 1: for the prom Let's get to the fourth quarter. Take
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  Speaker 1: them in deep water, and let's see who can seek,
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  Speaker 1: sink or swim. And every game has been the same way.
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  Speaker 1: They could be one in five, but they find a
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  Speaker 1: way to win these close games, which the Jaguars, on
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  Speaker 1: the other hand, seemed to keep finding ways to lose
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  Speaker 1: games because they're the best two and four team out there.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Weis and I said on our Sirius x M
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  Speaker 1: NFL radio show, when the Jaguars were two and two,
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  Speaker 1: if you looked at the division and looked at those
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  Speaker 1: first four games, they played the best of any team
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  Speaker 1: in the division through those first four games. They could
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  Speaker 1: have won Washington. I mean, they could have won last week.
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  Speaker 1: The only game that kind of got outplayed. I think Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: We could all say, right the Eagles game. The Eagles
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  Speaker 1: are better team, but you know, the Jaguars are dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: On Sunday, Papa with Us the voice of the Giants
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  Speaker 1: on w f A N in New York. How different
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  Speaker 1: of a running back is se Kwan Berkley now than
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  Speaker 1: he was before the knee injury or is he still
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  Speaker 1: the same type of runner. We noticed this in training
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  Speaker 1: camp during the first couple of practices that he had
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  Speaker 1: a different burst to him that we hadn't seen. He
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  Speaker 1: looked like the sa Kwan Barkley of his rookie year.
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  Speaker 1: The explosion, the jump cuts, everything look confident. He looked
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  Speaker 1: confident and in talking with coach Dable, you know at
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  Speaker 1: the start of training camp and mentioned to him a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times in our TV production meetings when we
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  Speaker 1: were doing the preseason telecast, See Sakewan looks it looks good.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, you know, one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: we got in the stake Juan, that we've been coaching
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  Speaker 1: them on is there's nothing wrong with the dirty two
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  Speaker 1: or three. And if you when you see when you
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  Speaker 1: watch the game on Sunday, you know the younger sake
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  Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley, the pre injuries, sake Kwan Barkley, we was
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  Speaker 1: looking to hit a grand slam on every run Alla
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  Speaker 1: Barry standers, and there was a lot of negative carriers.
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  Speaker 1: And they don't have the greatest offensive line in the world, um,
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  Speaker 1: and they have no receivers to threaten on the outside really,
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  Speaker 1: so it's Daniel Jones legs and Barkley's legs that kind
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  Speaker 1: of work off each other. And if you watch the
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  Speaker 1: games now, Stake one doesn't have negative carries. He if
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  Speaker 1: if there's nothing there, he gets physical and he gets
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  Speaker 1: the dirty two and dirty three. And dabl said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we told him, you keep getting the dirty too. Dirty
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  Speaker 1: three keeps us on schedule, keeps us out of you know,
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  Speaker 1: second and thirteen or first and fifteen. You'll pop one
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  Speaker 1: eventually you're gonna pop one and in every game basically
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  Speaker 1: what's happened, He's eventually pop one. He's one of the
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  Speaker 1: top players in the league that's not a quarterback, if
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  Speaker 1: not the top player in the league right now, and
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  Speaker 1: he might be better than a lot of those quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: too if he keeps at this pace. Um, do you
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  Speaker 1: think he has that ability to keep it up for
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  Speaker 1: seventeen games and keep that level of success and be
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  Speaker 1: in the conversation at the end of the season for
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  Speaker 1: some of these big awards at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Is that way too premature? Is it too much on
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  Speaker 1: him for this offense to to be able to maintain that.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot on his shoulders and he's got a
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  Speaker 1: bad shoulder. I got hurt that in London. It's sustainable
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  Speaker 1: because he's an elite player. I mean, you know there's
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  Speaker 1: difference makers in the NFL, and he proved his rookie
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  Speaker 1: season and when he's been relatively healthy how dynamic player
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  Speaker 1: he can be. Um, here's the thing about this coaching staff,
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  Speaker 1: and it just goes to show you, just like the
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  Speaker 1: fans in Jackson, they'll see it. Coaching matters in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Because all these guys started playing Pop Warner football middle school,
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  Speaker 1: high school, onto college, and then the funnel comes and
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  Speaker 1: eventually the very select few get to the NFL. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's no white hashes. You're not out recruiting people like
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  Speaker 1: you do in college football, where you get point spreads
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  Speaker 1: of thirty and teams winning by fifty. These games were
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  Speaker 1: all close because they're all pros, and that's where coaching matters.
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  Speaker 1: And this coaching staff has shown a tremendous resiliency to
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  Speaker 1: adapt what they're doing each and every week offensively based
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  Speaker 1: on opponent. And every week there's different things that they
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  Speaker 1: put in there based on who they're playing and how
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  Speaker 1: they feel the best way is to attack. And they probe.
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  Speaker 1: You know, one of the reasons why the Giants they
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  Speaker 1: struggle in the first half of these games and they
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  Speaker 1: don't really score a lot of points is some of
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  Speaker 1: it is probing to see, all, right, here's where we
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  Speaker 1: can poke them. And now in the when we get
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  Speaker 1: to the second half and we need something, we've probed
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  Speaker 1: them enough to set them up for something they haven't seen.
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  Speaker 1: And the same thing with the Jaguars. I mean, you've
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  Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl winning head coach and suddenly the
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  Speaker 1: team looks appreciably better, not Papa with his voice of
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  Speaker 1: the Giants. Is Daniel Jones a long term answer at quarterback?
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  Speaker 1: Are they moving on? Well, that's a great question. So
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and his last eleven starts before he got
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  Speaker 1: injured last year, he's eight and three. Not turning the
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  Speaker 1: ball over. Uh, he has five lost fumbles in his
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  Speaker 1: last seven team games. So I'll give you some ratios um.
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  Speaker 1: His rookie season, he averaged one point eight turnovers per
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  Speaker 1: game two thousand, twenty average one point five. Last year
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  Speaker 1: the average point nine turnovers per game, and this year
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  Speaker 1: he's averaging point seven. Doesn't turn it over, does not
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  Speaker 1: turn it over any He can make all the throws.
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  Speaker 1: So now you've got to take into consideration, who the
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  Speaker 1: hell is he throwing it too? Marcus Johnson a seven
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  Speaker 1: year journeyman, David Stills, Wan Dale Robinson, their second round pick,
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  Speaker 1: just got back. Kadarius Tony He's not even It's almost
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  Speaker 1: like he's not even on the team at this point
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  Speaker 1: because he never practices, he never plays. And Kenny Golladay
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  Speaker 1: was a mistake free agent signing by the previous regime.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing these guys can do about it. But I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you this. There was a situation. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was the Carolina game this year, maybe it was
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  Speaker 1: the Bears game and uh, and we're doing the TV
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  Speaker 1: show with coach Dave when I said to him, Coach,
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  Speaker 1: I said, man, look like Daniel had some guys were
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  Speaker 1: we had some guys there that you could hit, and
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  Speaker 1: and he goes he's sounding my wife. I'm like, what
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  Speaker 1: he's like. You know all these guys on TV, these
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  Speaker 1: former players that are drawing stuff up on the board,
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  Speaker 1: and they they're saying, Daniel Jones, he's missing these guys
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  Speaker 1: in windows because you know, he's missing those guys in
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  Speaker 1: windows because those guys are running the wrong routes. They
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  Speaker 1: weren't supposed to be in that window. He's going through
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  Speaker 1: his progressions and now there's somebody flashing that's not supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be where they are. So what is he supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do? Does he know if the guy is gonna
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  Speaker 1: continue crossing? Does he know if the guy is gonna stop?
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  Speaker 1: So he's got to pass that guy off and get
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  Speaker 1: to another read in his progression, because he does if
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  Speaker 1: a guy is running a wrong route and he's open,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't know what he's gonna do with the route.
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  Speaker 1: Is he gonna cut it off, is he gonna turn back?
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  Speaker 1: What is he gonna go deeper? Because it's pretty hard
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  Speaker 1: to throw. He goes Daniel Jones. He told me Daniel
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  Speaker 1: Jones has played so much better than he's gotten credit for.
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  Speaker 1: They're really happy with him. We'll see. It would solve
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  Speaker 1: a huge problem for them if they didn't have to
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  Speaker 1: go get a quarterback. But we're six games into seventeen
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  Speaker 1: games schedule. Let the last eleven play out. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of football left to be played by Papa Voice of
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  Speaker 1: the Giants. Let's flip in the defense now. A Dexter
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence is getting warmed up. He's got a sack in
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  Speaker 1: three straight games for its total for the season from
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  Speaker 1: the interior, and then last week Cavon Thibodeau got his
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  Speaker 1: first career sack on the final drive and got the
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  Speaker 1: sack fumble off Lamar Jackson to get him going. This
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  Speaker 1: defensive line has some players on it. What's the best
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  Speaker 1: point is that the best part of this defense in
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  Speaker 1: New York? How do they how do they play it?
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  Speaker 1: Multiple man Wink Martindale is a mad scientist. There was
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  Speaker 1: an alignment he had last week against the Ravens. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the ride receivers line up in the slot in a
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  Speaker 1: bunch set. I don't know if you saw this. Did
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  Speaker 1: you see this? I did see this yet, So they
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  Speaker 1: had a bunch set of defensive players right over center,
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  Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson had no idea what to deal with,
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  Speaker 1: what to do with it. Look again, Dexter Lawrence is
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  Speaker 1: playing out of his mind. He's uh. Leonard Williams is
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  Speaker 1: their best defensive player. Xavier McKinney is one of the
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  Speaker 1: best defensive players. Dorry Jackson's playing great, and then they
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  Speaker 1: just got guys. They got a lot of guys, and
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  Speaker 1: they find out what these players do best and they
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  Speaker 1: put him in a position to be successful based on situation.
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  Speaker 1: Gee hot Ward has been awesome against the run sets
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  Speaker 1: the edge, but last week, late in the game, ge
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  Speaker 1: hot Ward wasn't on the field because Wink didn't feel
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  Speaker 1: like that's what Baltimore was gonna be doing now. So
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  Speaker 1: I got a faster lineback around the field. It was
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  Speaker 1: better in space, and he brings people from everywhere. So
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  Speaker 1: they're they're a fun team to watch because you really
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  Speaker 1: never know what's coming at you, all right, Bob pop
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  Speaker 1: a voice of the Giants, pleasure to visit with you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for the time. Looking forward to this matchup
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  Speaker 1: at t I A. A. Bank Field. It's um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting into the meat of the season now, looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to this one. Yeah, and I'm I'm I'm. I
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  Speaker 1: did to see Trevor Lawrence and I'm excited to see
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars um and they got a lot of talent
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  Speaker 1: on that football team. You know, I think I think
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville is heading in the right direction. But the big
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  Speaker 1: question is the fifty fifty games. They gotta start winning
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  Speaker 1: some of these. Like it's like the Lions. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about the Lions, and they're in all these
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  Speaker 1: games and they have a chance to win, but they
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  Speaker 1: don't win them. And you know that breeds a lot
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  Speaker 1: of confidence in the Giants, who are living proof of that.
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  Speaker 1: They now expect to win games that they used to
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  Speaker 1: expect to lose. Well, at least the Jaguars are in
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  Speaker 1: fifty fifty games now. That has not always been the
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  Speaker 1: case the last decade or so. Well. Yeah, and Doug
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  Speaker 1: Peterson eight and two against the Giants. He owned Big
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  Speaker 1: Blue in his Philly days. Let's hope that continues. Bob,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not so much. Get Get your Wins starting next week.