Latest / The Breakfast Club / BONUS* Kamala Harris says Biden running for president in 2024 was reckless!
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Jist.
- 0:02Speaker 2: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
- 0:04Speaker 2: and everybody.
- 0:06Speaker 1: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren, Hey, y'all,
- 0:09Speaker 1: what's up.
- 0:10Speaker 2: It's Laura l Rosa and this is the latest with
- 0:13Speaker 2: Laura l Rosa. This is your Deli dig on all
- 0:15Speaker 2: things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations
- 0:20Speaker 2: that shake the room. Now today we are going to
- 0:23Speaker 2: be diving into Kamala Harris's book one hundred and seven
- 0:27Speaker 2: Days Now. The book has not been released yet, but
- 0:31Speaker 2: there was a three thousand word epsert from the book
- 0:35Speaker 2: published in the Atlantic which has been making the round.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Kamala Harris comes out and talks about how she really
- 0:42Speaker 2: felt about Biden running for reelection back in twenty twenty four,
- 0:46Speaker 2: and she's questioning whether this was loyalty, a great decision,
- 0:51Speaker 2: or was it recklessness And she says that it was
- 0:53Speaker 2: reckless for her to allow him to move forward with
- 0:57Speaker 2: running for reelection.
- 0:59Speaker 1: During that time.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Now, this is interesting because, as you guys know, we
- 1:02Speaker 2: have all been waiting to hear an honest truth about
- 1:08Speaker 2: how she really felt watching Joe Biden run for reelection
- 1:12Speaker 2: knowing that he shouldn't have knowing that even if because
- 1:16Speaker 2: even in this three thousand word epsird, Kamala Harri still
- 1:20Speaker 2: says that there was no big scheme to cover up
- 1:23Speaker 2: the fact that Joe Biden was incoherent. She says, many
- 1:27Speaker 2: people want to spend a narrative in some big conspiracy
- 1:29Speaker 2: at the White House to hide Joe Biden's infirmity. Here's
- 1:33Speaker 2: the truth as I lived it. Joe Biden was a
- 1:35Speaker 2: smart guy with a long experience and deep conviction, able
- 1:38Speaker 2: to discharge the duties of president.
- 1:41Speaker 1: On his worst day.
- 1:42Speaker 2: He was more deeply knowledgeable, more capable of exercising judgment,
- 1:46Speaker 2: and far more compassionate than Donald Trump on his best.
- 1:50Speaker 2: But at eighty one, Joe got tired. That's when his
- 1:53Speaker 2: age showed in his physical and verbal stumbles. I don't
- 1:56Speaker 2: think it's any surprise that the debate debacle happened right
- 2:00Speaker 2: after two back to back trips to Europe, in a
- 2:03Speaker 2: flight to the West Coast for a Hollywood fundraiser. I
- 2:07Speaker 2: don't believe it was incapacity. If I believe that, I
- 2:10Speaker 2: would have said so. As loyal as I am the
- 2:12Speaker 2: President Biden, I am more loyal to my country.
- 2:15Speaker 1: So don't get Kamala Harris twisted.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Right. She is still saying, look, we weren't trying to
- 2:20Speaker 2: cover up the fact that there was anything wrong with
- 2:23Speaker 2: him health bossed despite the fact that the man is
- 2:25Speaker 2: eighty some years old and when he gets tired things
- 2:28Speaker 2: begin to slow down.
- 2:30Speaker 1: And this was after a long work week.
- 2:33Speaker 2: But I mean, no, I don't believe this part of it,
- 2:37Speaker 2: but I do appreciate her being honest to other parts.
- 2:40Speaker 2: So we're going to get into exactly what she says.
- 2:44Speaker 2: So the epsort in the Atlantic starts on the day
- 2:48Speaker 2: that Kamala Harris went to go speak in front of
- 2:50Speaker 2: a sorority caused Zeta Phi Beta. It is a part
- 2:52Speaker 2: of the Divine Nine, which are the black Greek organizations.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Sororities and fraternities make up the Divine Nine. Kamala Harris
- 2:59Speaker 2: is a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Aka, which is
- 3:02Speaker 2: one of the first Greek letter organizations.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Now, I remember when.
- 3:07Speaker 2: This happened, and it was the room was full of
- 3:09Speaker 2: about six thousand people when she went to go speak
- 3:12Speaker 2: to them. I remember when this happened because Kamala got
- 3:15Speaker 2: so much slack for deciding to go there and speak
- 3:18Speaker 2: to the women of Zeta Phi Beta instead of going
- 3:21Speaker 2: to another highly publicized event. And she says it in
- 3:27Speaker 2: the episode that I read as well, that you know,
- 3:30Speaker 2: if unless you really understand the connectivity the importance in
- 3:34Speaker 2: the power of the Divine Nine of Greek letter organizations,
- 3:38Speaker 2: Black Greek letter organizations, you don't understand why she chose
- 3:42Speaker 2: to be there. But at this point, she's very early
- 3:45Speaker 2: in everything, the race conversations, the you know everything, so
- 3:50Speaker 2: going to her core where it really mattered and made sense,
- 3:54Speaker 2: even if they.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Weren't directly saying, that's why she did.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Us black people, we knew what this was doing because
- 4:00Speaker 2: we knew and we still know to this day, the
- 4:03Speaker 2: importance of community amongst black people, especially Divine nine Greek organizations.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Not only do they run culture on HBCUs, but even
- 4:10Speaker 2: following graduation into the world, the Divine Nine gets busy.
- 4:15Speaker 2: So she talks about being there and she says, Kamala
- 4:18Speaker 2: Harris says, I was in a room full of people
- 4:20Speaker 2: with whom, because of our shared experience, certain words did
- 4:24Speaker 2: not need to be said.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Oh baby, I felt that.
- 4:27Speaker 2: There's an emotion that comes from being in a place
- 4:29Speaker 2: where people see you, support you, and know you. The
- 4:33Speaker 2: kindness and the love in that room penetrated the armor
- 4:36Speaker 2: I usually wore armor I need to put back on
- 4:40Speaker 2: as soon as I left that room. Now, Kamala Harris
- 4:43Speaker 2: does talk about in this ebsurd a bit just feeling overlooked,
- 4:46Speaker 2: undervalued her position, not you know, being one of substance
- 4:51Speaker 2: or treated like it was one of substance behind the scenes,
- 4:53Speaker 2: and how her team had to fight for her often
- 4:55Speaker 2: we'll get into that.
- 4:56Speaker 1: So once she speaks, she opens up.
- 4:58Speaker 2: In that setting with Zeta phi beta and says, you know,
- 5:01Speaker 2: she's giving her speech, and she's like, and when I
- 5:03Speaker 2: become president, and she talks about how loud the crowd cheered,
- 5:07Speaker 2: and let's take a listen to that speech.
- 5:08Speaker 3: Actually, you know, when he was president, Donald Trump, former president,
- 5:12Speaker 3: hand picked three members of the United States Supreme Court
- 5:15Speaker 3: because he.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Intended for them to overturn Roe v.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Wade, the United States Supreme Court previously the Court of
- 5:22Speaker 3: Thurgood and RBG.
- 5:26Speaker 1: And as he intended they did.
- 5:29Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you something. When I am President
- 5:31Speaker 3: of the United States, and when Congress passes along to
- 5:37Speaker 3: restore those freedoms, I will sign it into law.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Now reading this Ebsurd and understanding kind of where she
- 5:48Speaker 2: was and some of the things that she was dealing with.
- 5:50Speaker 2: And when I say where she was, I mean just
- 5:52Speaker 2: like mentally and spiritually. It seems like you're reading this Ebsurd.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Kamala had gotten almost to a place of autopilot a bit,
- 6:00Speaker 2: in my opinion, because she talks a lot about having
- 6:04Speaker 2: to prove her loyalty in the office over and over
- 6:07Speaker 2: and over again. She talks a lot about her team
- 6:11Speaker 2: having to fight for her for certain things. She says,
- 6:14Speaker 2: I was well aware of my delicate status. Laura has
- 6:17Speaker 2: it that every outgoing chief of staff always tells the
- 6:21Speaker 2: incoming president chief of staff rule number one, watch the VP,
- 6:25Speaker 2: because I going after him over Bussing in the twenty
- 6:28Speaker 2: nineteen primary debate. I came into the White House with
- 6:31Speaker 2: what we lawyers call a rebuttal presumption. I had to
- 6:35Speaker 2: prove my loyalty time and time again because she wasn't
- 6:38Speaker 2: the biggest Biden fan in the beginning of all of this,
- 6:40Speaker 2: which was no secret, but Biden at the same time,
- 6:43Speaker 2: and that's why, oh my god, like, as a black
- 6:45Speaker 2: woman reading this, what the feeling that I hated? And
- 6:49Speaker 2: it's crazy because I feel like as black women, as
- 6:52Speaker 2: black people, we have like a language that we speak
- 6:56Speaker 2: with sometimes without even saying words.
- 6:58Speaker 1: It can be hand gesture, it can be the way
- 7:00Speaker 1: you move your hit.
- 7:01Speaker 2: It can be you know, the laugh, the giggle, the
- 7:03Speaker 2: side eye, and a lot of Kamala Harris's responses, whether
- 7:08Speaker 2: she was in debates, or she was at speaking engagements
- 7:11Speaker 2: or you know anything public eye when we saw her,
- 7:15Speaker 2: there were so many times where that language was happening
- 7:18Speaker 2: between us and her, us and her, but a lot
- 7:22Speaker 2: of what she's talking about here in this episode, I
- 7:25Speaker 2: feel like we knew, especially black women.
- 7:27Speaker 1: I feel like we knew that there was a lot that.
- 7:31Speaker 2: She wanted to say in wouldn't or couldn't, that she
- 7:35Speaker 2: wanted to do and wouldn't or couldn't. And I also
- 7:38Speaker 2: think that as black people, we knew that pushing for
- 7:43Speaker 2: her to get on the ticket with Biden and making
- 7:45Speaker 2: that one of the you have to do this if
- 7:48Speaker 2: you want us to vote for you things, I feel like,
- 7:52Speaker 2: in my opinion, you know, as a person that voted
- 7:55Speaker 2: for the Biden.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Harris campaign, I wanted our.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Support and us rallying together and our pressure that we
- 8:02Speaker 2: put on Biden. I wanted it to be a message
- 8:05Speaker 2: to Kamala that they had to tread lightly with her.
- 8:08Speaker 2: They had to talk to her very nice because she
- 8:10Speaker 2: had all of us behind her. If they did not
- 8:14Speaker 2: when she got in the White House, I felt like
- 8:16Speaker 2: even if she felt like that, or at one point
- 8:19Speaker 2: felt like that, she.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Had to put it to the side. It was like
- 8:22Speaker 1: she had to play nights.
- 8:23Speaker 2: She had to dress up small wave, you know, the
- 8:27Speaker 2: duality of black people, the code switching. She had to
- 8:30Speaker 2: do all the things which we know that's a part
- 8:32Speaker 2: of the walk and talk of a black person in America.
- 8:35Speaker 2: But we put her there because we wanted her to
- 8:39Speaker 2: feel comfortable enough.
- 8:40Speaker 1: To say fuck all that. And that is not what happened.
- 8:43Speaker 2: So she continues, and she says, when Fox News attacked
- 8:47Speaker 2: me on everything from my laugh to my tone of voice,
- 8:50Speaker 2: to whom I dated in my twenties.
- 8:52Speaker 1: She's talking about former Mayor Willie Brown.
- 8:54Speaker 2: When Fox News attacked me on everything from my lave
- 8:57Speaker 2: to my tone of voice, to whom I dated in
- 8:59Speaker 2: my twenties, poor claimed I was a DEI hire. The
- 9:02Speaker 2: White House rarely pushed back with my actual resume. Two
- 9:07Speaker 2: terms elected da top cop in the second largest Department
- 9:11Speaker 2: of Justice in the United States. Senator representing one in
- 9:14Speaker 2: eight Americans, Lorian vows, my chief of staff constantly had
- 9:19Speaker 2: to advocate for my role at events. She's just not
- 9:22Speaker 2: gonna stand here like a pouted plant. Give her two
- 9:26Speaker 2: minutes of remarks, have her introduced the president. They had
- 9:30Speaker 2: a huge comms team, but they had Kareem John Pierre
- 9:34Speaker 2: briefing in the press room every day. But getting anything
- 9:38Speaker 2: positive said about my work on any defense against untrue
- 9:41Speaker 2: attacks was almost impossible. Now that right there is tea
- 9:46Speaker 2: because I mean it's a white house, so of course
- 9:48Speaker 2: they have a huge comms team. But her pointing to
- 9:51Speaker 2: the fact that they had Kareem John Pierre briefing in
- 9:56Speaker 2: the press room every day, another black woman, getting anything
- 10:00Speaker 2: positive said in defense to my attacks was almost impossible,
- 10:06Speaker 2: And I don't know. And look, the way that normally
- 10:09Speaker 2: works is that when people remove themselves from politics, we
- 10:11Speaker 2: find out about the truth their truths about the politics
- 10:15Speaker 2: they dived in and the work that they did. Like
- 10:17Speaker 2: I think Kareem was also in a position as well too,
- 10:21Speaker 2: where it's like you gotta do the walk, do the dance, whatever.
- 10:26Speaker 2: But I'm not excusing it because I believe and I
- 10:30Speaker 2: feel like when you're in these positions where you are
- 10:36Speaker 2: one of few, one of only, you have like it's
- 10:41Speaker 2: so crazy to even think about. It's actually kind of
- 10:43Speaker 2: sad in twenty twenty five that have to sit here
- 10:45Speaker 2: and even think about how to say this the right
- 10:47Speaker 2: way when you're in these positions, especially as a black woman.
- 10:52Speaker 2: One of the biggest things I learned, especially when you're
- 10:54Speaker 2: in space, is that are very white, very misunderstanding of you,
- 10:59Speaker 2: your tone, your you're everything. She's in a position of
- 11:02Speaker 2: power right at this point, Kamala Harris. But you're not though,
- 11:06Speaker 2: Like you are, but you're not though. When you're in
- 11:08Speaker 2: that position, one of the things I've learned is it's
- 11:11Speaker 2: almost like playing chess, like you have to learn how
- 11:15Speaker 2: to knock everything off the board and get to what
- 11:17Speaker 2: you want done without people feeling like you're powerful or
- 11:22Speaker 2: you have power. You almost have to like, you know,
- 11:26Speaker 2: you take all the hits, you take all of the
- 11:29Speaker 2: you know, all of the stones, everything that is thrown
- 11:32Speaker 2: at you, you go through it, and then one day,
- 11:35Speaker 2: randomly the people in power standing right next to you,
- 11:38Speaker 2: who for some reason were able to not be empathetic
- 11:42Speaker 2: to anything they watch you experience in real time for
- 11:47Speaker 2: several reasons, because maybe you know a lot of times
- 11:49Speaker 2: it's you know, you're a woman and their man, or
- 11:52Speaker 2: you know, of course color, her being a black woman
- 11:55Speaker 2: has a lot to do with it, and them just
- 11:57Speaker 2: not seeing the necessity or the need or understanding culturally
- 12:02Speaker 2: how attacked a black woman is, especially when she's in
- 12:04Speaker 2: a position of power and having to utilize, show and
- 12:09Speaker 2: exercise that power the way that you have to learn
- 12:12Speaker 2: duality and learn to be weak to be strong. It's
- 12:18Speaker 2: very sad, and it's sad to hear her say that
- 12:22Speaker 2: she specifically pointed out, you know, Kareem John Pierre, because
- 12:25Speaker 2: she's the person speaking and briefing the press every day,
- 12:28Speaker 2: but also she's a black woman in a position to communicate.
- 12:35Speaker 2: She's talking about to communicate. But at the same time,
- 12:38Speaker 2: I've had conversations with people about Kareean Jean Pierre and
- 12:42Speaker 2: her coming out, you know, as neither the Democrat or
- 12:46Speaker 2: Republican after leaving you know, her role and all the
- 12:49Speaker 2: things who say she was also in that same position,
- 12:53Speaker 2: which is very understandable. It is very understandable, but I
- 12:56Speaker 2: do think this screams to me that Kamala was looking
- 13:01Speaker 2: for an advocate on the inside and did not feel
- 13:04Speaker 2: like she had it, nor did she feel like she
- 13:06Speaker 2: had anywhere to turn. And the people who were advocating
- 13:09Speaker 2: for her the strengthened numbers, and she didn't have the numbers,
- 13:12Speaker 2: she says. An example of this is in twenty twenty one,
- 13:15Speaker 2: She says, I was dispatched to help reset the US's
- 13:19Speaker 2: tattered relationship with France after we signed the Australia UK
- 13:23Speaker 2: US Security Path. Australia had agreed to buy submarines from France,
- 13:29Speaker 2: but scrapped that contract when we in the UK agreed
- 13:33Speaker 2: to supply Australia with nuclear subs under a new agreement instead.
- 13:38Speaker 2: This had caused tremendous friction in our meeting. Emmanuel Macaron
- 13:42Speaker 2: and I warmed the chill by focusing on our many
- 13:45Speaker 2: areas of cooperation such as space or exploration, climate change,
- 13:49Speaker 2: Translantic security, cybersecurity.
- 13:52Speaker 1: In the Indo Pacific.
- 13:53Speaker 2: On that trip, I was invited to visit the renowned
- 13:56Speaker 2: Pastorier Institute, where my mother had worked on MRI research
- 14:00Speaker 2: related to breast cancer. I was speaking informally with the
- 14:04Speaker 2: scientists there about how I wish politicians were more closely
- 14:07Speaker 2: followed the scientistic method testing a hypothesis and adjusting according
- 14:12Speaker 2: to results, rather than coming in with the plan as
- 14:15Speaker 2: if they had already entered upfront. I said the plan
- 14:18Speaker 2: with an exaggerated emphasis in air quotes. Fox News, the
- 14:22Speaker 2: New York Posts, and New Max went while claiming I
- 14:25Speaker 2: faked a French accent.
- 14:27Speaker 3: We campaigned with the plan uppercase t uppercase p D planned.
- 14:33Speaker 3: We're expected to defend d plan.
- 14:36Speaker 2: That was totally nonsense, But the White House seemed glad
- 14:40Speaker 2: to let reporting about my gaff overwhelm the significant thaw
- 14:44Speaker 2: in foreign relations that I achieved. So basically, they let
- 14:47Speaker 2: the They let all of the the craziness fly when
- 14:50Speaker 2: it came to her, you know, the nonsense news, the
- 14:52Speaker 2: sensationalized headlines. You know, I remember one point people were
- 14:55Speaker 2: mad about her, Chuck Taylor's like things of that nature.
- 14:57Speaker 2: She says, they never made it a point to point
- 15:00Speaker 2: out the real work she was doing.
- 15:03Speaker 1: She was the distraction. She was a test dummy.
- 15:06Speaker 2: She was thrown into situations, or when situations what happened,
- 15:09Speaker 2: they would use her as a distractor.
- 15:10Speaker 1: She would have to bite the bullet. Even worse she says.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Kamala Harris says, I often learned that the president's staff
- 15:22Speaker 2: was adding fuel to negative narratives that sprang up around me.
- 15:26Speaker 2: One narrative that took a stubborn hole was that I
- 15:29Speaker 2: had a chaotic office and unusually high staff turnover during
- 15:33Speaker 2: my first year. The plain fact is many people who
- 15:37Speaker 2: come to work with the new administration in the White
- 15:39Speaker 2: House haven't done it before. It's a job unlike any other,
- 15:42Speaker 2: and not every person, no matter how talented in their
- 15:45Speaker 2: former position, can step up into such a high stress,
- 15:47Speaker 2: around the clock role. Others find that they just don't
- 15:50Speaker 2: want the job that doesn't pay particularly well, that it
- 15:53Speaker 2: takes a massive toll on your family and rules out
- 15:56Speaker 2: anything resembling to a normal life. I'm not going to
- 15:58Speaker 2: keep people on who can't thrive at their jobs. It's
- 16:02Speaker 2: not fair to them and it's not good for the country.
- 16:05Speaker 2: So the first year in any White House see staff turnover.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Working for the first woman vice president, my staff had
- 16:11Speaker 2: the additional challenge of confronting gender stereotypes, a constant battle that.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Could prove exhausting.
- 16:18Speaker 2: I was the first vice president to have a dedicated
- 16:20Speaker 2: press pool tracking my every public move before me, vice
- 16:24Speaker 2: presidents had what's called a supplemental pool, as the first
- 16:27Speaker 2: lady does, only covering important events. But because of the
- 16:30Speaker 2: constant attention, things that had never been especially newsworthy about
- 16:34Speaker 2: the vice president were suddenly reported in scrutinizedaid, we know
- 16:37Speaker 2: why first black woman vice president.
- 16:39Speaker 1: So she goes on and on and on and on.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Like this episode is really really I'm actually really excited
- 16:44Speaker 2: to read her book.
- 16:44Speaker 1: I didn't know how much her book would be, if
- 16:47Speaker 1: it would bes.
- 16:48Speaker 2: If I'm just being honest with you, I felt, and
- 16:50Speaker 2: I feel like whenever I get a chance to interact
- 16:53Speaker 2: with people on the Democratic side, like when they come
- 16:56Speaker 2: to the breakfast club for interviews or anything like that,
- 16:58Speaker 2: I always feel that what they really feel, what they
- 17:02Speaker 2: really want to say, is never what you get to
- 17:05Speaker 2: see and never what you get to hear. And it's
- 17:08Speaker 2: really not disheartening because it's politics. I think everybody is
- 17:12Speaker 2: doing the dance and putting on a cape and putting
- 17:14Speaker 2: on a mask and putting on a personality persona talking
- 17:18Speaker 2: in the talking points on all the things Republicans I
- 17:20Speaker 2: think are just they're a little bit more ratchet with theirs.
- 17:23Speaker 2: But I didn't know if her book would be that
- 17:26Speaker 2: because at the same time, all of this scrutiny and
- 17:29Speaker 2: all these things she's talking about, they're gonna come again
- 17:32Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, she's still a
- 17:33Speaker 2: black woman who was in the White House now and
- 17:36Speaker 2: this was my whole thing too, and now she's gonna
- 17:39Speaker 2: be looked at as disloyal and this is my whole thing.
- 17:41Speaker 2: When everything was happening and people were like, Kamala should
- 17:45Speaker 2: just come out say what's really going on, even before
- 17:48Speaker 2: people were talking about whether Biden should run again or not,
- 17:51Speaker 2: there's this code with us, and I get it. As
- 17:54Speaker 2: black people, I think we have a very what happens
- 17:57Speaker 2: in the house stays and now that's how we're raised, right,
- 18:00Speaker 2: But I think in certain instances that really it destroys us.
- 18:05Speaker 2: It destroys our voice, and it destroys the reasons why
- 18:08Speaker 2: we're put in a room. When Kamala Harris was elected,
- 18:11Speaker 2: I thought she was gonna get in there and blow
- 18:13Speaker 2: all of that up.
- 18:14Speaker 1: And I mean that in the best way.
- 18:16Speaker 2: I mean she was not going to stand for things
- 18:19Speaker 2: happening that shouldn't happen. She was going to speak directly
- 18:22Speaker 2: to the people, to her people to, you know, all
- 18:24Speaker 2: the people that get overlooked, and she talks about that
- 18:26Speaker 2: in this episode. She says that she felt like her
- 18:28Speaker 2: role was to really account for and continue to play
- 18:32Speaker 2: spotlight on those communities that people didn't care about, underserved
- 18:36Speaker 2: black women, black people, and not just us, but you know,
- 18:40Speaker 2: underserved and uncared for communities across the board. But I
- 18:45Speaker 2: think her voice was diminished. And I don't know, and
- 18:50Speaker 2: you know, I haven't read this full three thousand words.
- 18:53Speaker 2: I'm going to continue to do that on my own,
- 18:55Speaker 2: and I'm really looking forward to reading the book. I
- 18:57Speaker 2: don't know if her voice got diminished because the lack
- 19:02Speaker 2: of support and the scrutiny she felt, because everybody likes
- 19:05Speaker 2: to act like they don't care, but you do, and
- 19:10Speaker 2: you know, people would like to act like Kamala could
- 19:11Speaker 2: have gotten there and went off and did all the things.
- 19:13Speaker 1: And she could have. I believe she could have.
- 19:16Speaker 2: But I think the biggest thing she probably was say
- 19:17Speaker 2: good about also is the disloyalty. And if she's being
- 19:21Speaker 2: dragged for something as simple as the way she laughs
- 19:24Speaker 2: and you know her hand jesters, imagine what they going
- 19:28Speaker 2: to do to a young black woman standing next to
- 19:32Speaker 2: this older white man in this White House, defending this
- 19:35Speaker 2: country that has historically not stood for her, but stood
- 19:38Speaker 2: for the counterpart and for the other. I think that
- 19:41Speaker 2: that was one of her things as well too. I
- 19:49Speaker 2: want to get into more directly what she like, where
- 19:52Speaker 2: her thoughts in her you know, her words were when
- 19:55Speaker 2: it came to Biden and him running again for president,
- 19:58Speaker 2: and one of the episodes, she says, I knew would
- 20:00Speaker 2: come off to him as incredibly self serving if I
- 20:02Speaker 2: advised him not to run, he would see it as
- 20:05Speaker 2: naked ambition, perhaps as dis loyalty, even if my only
- 20:09Speaker 2: message was don't let the other guy win. She also
- 20:13Speaker 2: goes on in an episot to talk about something that
- 20:15Speaker 2: they would say all the time, and you would hear
- 20:17Speaker 2: her say all the time when people would ask about
- 20:20Speaker 2: the president running again and whether she thought that he
- 20:22Speaker 2: was capable of becoming the president or being the president
- 20:24Speaker 2: doing the job because he was falling a partner in
- 20:26Speaker 2: front of our faces. She said, it's Joe and Jill's decision.
- 20:30Speaker 2: We all said that like a mantra, as if we'd
- 20:32Speaker 2: been hypnotized, And that right there, I think is a
- 20:35Speaker 2: bold statement as well. And she's coming out swinging. Kam
- 20:38Speaker 2: Lehrers is coming out swinging in his book. That's a
- 20:40Speaker 2: bold statement because even though in the prior epsert she
- 20:44Speaker 2: talks about there not being this whole scam or you know,
- 20:47Speaker 2: scheme or scandal to cover up Joe Biden being you know,
- 20:51Speaker 2: not capable medically, physically and just you know, his coherence
- 20:56Speaker 2: to run for president.
- 20:57Speaker 1: But I think even this is what we were saying.
- 21:00Speaker 2: What we were saying was that it's a lot of
- 21:03Speaker 2: it was okay, we're all watching this happen, but the
- 21:05Speaker 2: way that it was handled, Yeah, all of y'all were
- 21:09Speaker 2: giving a script and you guys all stuck to it,
- 21:12Speaker 2: and that, to be honest with you, I think that
- 21:15Speaker 2: had a lot to do with why Kamala didn't win.
- 21:18Speaker 2: It was that script, her not coming out and completely
- 21:22Speaker 2: distancing herself from everything that Joe Biden did and talking
- 21:26Speaker 2: about how things would be so different and like she's
- 21:29Speaker 2: still even in running for president for those hundred and
- 21:32Speaker 2: seven days, she still had to stick to this like
- 21:35Speaker 2: this this hopscotch, just this double dutch of like okay,
- 21:39Speaker 2: I'm here and on what we need but wait, wait,
- 21:41Speaker 2: waitit wait, like we can't we can't take away from
- 21:43Speaker 2: what happened over here, or I'm still gonna stick to
- 21:45Speaker 2: this because me running doesn't mean that I disagree that
- 21:49Speaker 2: he shouldn't have ran for president. It's like a part
- 21:51Speaker 2: of her was still living in the middle of all
- 21:54Speaker 2: of these things, and you could still kind of feel
- 21:56Speaker 2: that in this episode a bit, because she comes out
- 21:58Speaker 2: swinging and then she goes back and says, but I'm
- 22:01Speaker 2: not saying that he wasn't capable. He was better than
- 22:03Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Like, I don't know what it is about politics.
- 22:06Speaker 2: I know what it is to be a black woman.
- 22:07Speaker 2: Don't have to play it safe. But at this point,
- 22:10Speaker 2: the gloves is off. Kamala Harris ain't playing to save
- 22:14Speaker 2: So I'm excited to read the rest of the book.
- 22:15Speaker 2: You guys, let me know what you think. She ends
- 22:18Speaker 2: a very strong, strong statement after talking about this mantra
- 22:23Speaker 2: that is Joe and Joe's decision, and she says, was
- 22:27Speaker 2: it grace or was it recklessness? In retrospect? I think
- 22:31Speaker 2: it was recklessness. And this was her comment on her
- 22:34Speaker 2: decision and everybody around her is decision not to sit
- 22:39Speaker 2: Joe Biden down and tell him do not run for
- 22:41Speaker 2: re election.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Get in the comments. I want you to take it
- 22:45Speaker 1: out to the streets in a tweet call we Outside,
- 22:48Speaker 1: we Outside, we Outside Outside, every other page.
- 22:52Speaker 2: On Twitter, Instagram, all the places I want to hear
- 22:54Speaker 2: from you, guys. Do you guys think that this is
- 22:57Speaker 2: a little too late. It's Kamala Harris a little bit
- 23:00Speaker 2: too late and telling us the truth about Biden running
- 23:03Speaker 2: for reelection, being reckless and honestly being the reason why.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Our country is doing shit right now. I'm Lorda L. Rosa.
- 23:11Speaker 1: This is the latest with Lorda L. Rosa.
- 23:13Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, like I tell you, guys,
- 23:15Speaker 2: every single episode, y'all could be anywhere with anybody talking
- 23:18Speaker 2: about all of these things, but y'all choose to be
- 23:21Speaker 2: right here with me, my lowriders.
- 23:23Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys.
- 23:24Speaker 2: I will see you in my next episode.