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Chuck in the Morning 8-13 Hour 3: Ben Johnson's loud mouth, · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Our number three Chuck in the Morning. Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM, broadcasting live from the amazing Virginia
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Speaker 1: Mason Athletic Center here in Renton, Washington, home of the
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Speaker 1: world champion Seattle Seahawks. It is champ camp and we
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Speaker 1: only have two more shows from out here during this
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Speaker 1: year's training camp. But always splendid to be here. And
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Speaker 1: how beautiful does this place look, Ashley on hard Knocks, Oh.
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Speaker 2: My goodness, like the most idyllic place on earth.
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Speaker 1: Does it not? Yeah? I mean it looks like a painting.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's like someone's imagination run wild. I mean
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Speaker 1: it is just spectacular. And you know, HBO is loving
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Speaker 1: the image. You know, they got out here and they're like,
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Speaker 1: what on earth this is a football facility. This is
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Speaker 1: like a vacation destination.
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Speaker 2: Well, and they keep showing it from different angles. Dude.
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Speaker 3: You notice in the last one they were across the lake,
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Speaker 3: like looking through something to that part or to the
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Speaker 3: actual practice facility, but it was from across the lake
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Speaker 3: or middle of the lake or something.
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Speaker 2: They're looking at all the different angles.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just spectacular, and it's just gorgeous and it
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Speaker 1: looks even I mean, I'm looking at it and I
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Speaker 1: just I try to describe it for you every single day,
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Speaker 1: and yet to see the way that HBO, you're right,
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Speaker 1: can show it from all those different angles, and they
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Speaker 1: can come up over a hill or across the water,
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Speaker 1: or over the top of the building. It just looks
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Speaker 1: so gorgeous on television. It's got to be anybody else
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Speaker 1: that's watching that. You know, you're sweating bullets somewhere and
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Speaker 1: you know, Tampa, Florida, and you're sitting there looking at
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Speaker 1: this facility, like man, that is like a dream come
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Speaker 1: true football facility out there, and that's exactly what it is.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what the Coastlas might do
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Speaker 1: with it, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, how they're gonna even step it up more if
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Speaker 3: that's possible.
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Speaker 1: If it's even possible, if you just come up here
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Speaker 1: and says this cannot be touched. We are not gonna
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Speaker 1: do anything with this love, you know that sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: You know, because I picture them talking to each other,
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Speaker 1: mister and missus.
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Speaker 3: Cosla, and then when they talk to this son, it's like, hey, kiddo,
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Speaker 3: what do you think.
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Speaker 1: Hey, chipper, I just gave him a nickname. I Well,
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Speaker 1: good to have you with us, hour number three. You're
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Speaker 1: on this Thursday edition of the radio program. We're a
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Speaker 1: little late here, I think you'll forgive us. We just
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Speaker 1: had an outstanding interview with Uchenna Nwosu, first time we've
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Speaker 1: ever had him on the show. Here today, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: say something here and Ashley, I'm gonna run the risk
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Speaker 1: of really upsetting a lot of our listeners, but I'm
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Speaker 1: also gonna on the risk of saying something that's gonna
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Speaker 1: go right to your head. So I'm wrestling with how
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna handle your newly out of control ego and
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Speaker 1: maybe some crushed relationships with my audience. But I've got
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Speaker 1: to say it. Okay, are you ready? I don't know,
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Speaker 1: usc people are really impressive. I'm not kidding you. Like
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Speaker 1: every time you come across one, there's just there's a
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Speaker 1: there's like a and then there's a. Obviously, the ones
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Speaker 1: that you meet are accomplished, so.
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Speaker 3: That hepsy, Yeah, that helps a lot of douches when
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Speaker 3: I was there, Yeah, but that.
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Speaker 1: Helps with confidence. Like I've only met successful ones, so
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Speaker 1: you know, in the sports world and and a few
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Speaker 1: other places, and and yet between Leonard Williams and chenna
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Speaker 1: Uosu was great, and Sam Uh and Loafa and yourself.
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Speaker 1: It's like every person that I meet from USC is intelligent,
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Speaker 1: and they have a and they have a personality about
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Speaker 1: them too, and they know how to present themselves and
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Speaker 1: they just there's this combination. And I kind of want
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Speaker 1: to meet some turds from USC so that I can
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Speaker 1: understand that. Yeah, and they really are turds at USC.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of the conclusion I want to draw. But
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Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is, it just feels like
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Speaker 1: every USC person that I meet now, granted those are
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Speaker 1: usually successful people just come across so well they know
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Speaker 1: how to express themselves. So you know, maybe it pisses
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Speaker 1: off some Washington Husky fans listening right now, but I
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Speaker 1: just it's just an observation that I make.
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Speaker 2: You're gonna make.
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Speaker 3: Koog fans a real excited though, if Husky fans are mad.
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Speaker 3: So see, you're making some people happy.
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Speaker 2: And I hear what you're.
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Speaker 3: Saying, because especially like you think about some I mean
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Speaker 3: about Big Cat all the time, and yeah, and Hugh
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Speaker 3: talks about how impressive of a human being Sam Darnold
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Speaker 3: is all the time, and We've never gotten the chance
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Speaker 3: to talk to Chennon and Wosu until now, and he
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Speaker 3: was great.
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Speaker 2: He was absolutely great.
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Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, I just kind of I think maybe somebody
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Speaker 1: needs to invite me out to a bar with a
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Speaker 1: bunch of USC turds because I know they're out there.
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Speaker 1: Oh they're out there, so that I can knock you
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Speaker 1: guys down a couple PAGs. Yeah. Just observational, observationally, it
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Speaker 1: just seems like that they just have a little extra
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Speaker 1: edge about It's like this combination of intelligence coupled with
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Speaker 1: like security confidence, the way they present themselves. Uh, it
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Speaker 1: it just seems to be something that gets attached to
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Speaker 1: their athletes. I don't know what it is. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's going to Los Angeles and having to acclimate
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Speaker 1: yourself around celebrities that you're just really confident with yourself.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but it seems no
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Speaker 1: noticeable to me.
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Speaker 2: Well, that is a very nice compliment and very appreciated.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Now I hope you lose all of your
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Speaker 1: football games this ya.
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Speaker 3: I mean again, See, as much as I am proud
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Speaker 3: of being I'm proud of the people I graduated with
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Speaker 3: and went to school with and the individuals in my school,
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Speaker 3: but the school as a whole and UCLA are in
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Speaker 3: the same boat as far as ruining the conference. So
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Speaker 3: if they lose, they lose, and maybe would get a
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Speaker 3: coach I actually would have liked.
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Speaker 1: That would be the Yes, Actually what I'd like to
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Speaker 1: find out. I'm just going to Google search it right now.
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Speaker 1: If Bears head coach Ben Johnson went to USC that
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Speaker 1: would really help me not feel so good about them.
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Speaker 2: I don't think he did.
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Speaker 1: No, he didn't pably North Carolina.
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Speaker 2: They probably went to UCLA.
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Speaker 1: I got to talk about this guy. Here we are
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Speaker 1: on the start of the NFL preseason, and you know,
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Speaker 1: I haven't had a preseason snap yet in a game
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, and Ben Johnson yesterday goes off
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Speaker 1: about how not only not only do they want to
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Speaker 1: win the the Super Bowl this year and think that
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Speaker 1: they will, but that they want to break the record
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Speaker 1: for most points scored in an NFL season, that that
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Speaker 1: is something that is a goal of his for this year,
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Speaker 1: that that's what he wants to do with this season.
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Speaker 1: And then he says, all I want to do is
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Speaker 1: pitch shutouts and and what was it? And run up
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Speaker 1: the score, blowouts and shutouts. Oh was the words that
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Speaker 1: he used. He And you know what is funny is
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Speaker 1: my reaction to that was, oh, my gosh, what is
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Speaker 1: he doing? What a stupid thing to say before the
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Speaker 1: season gets underway. And lo and behold. I wake up
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Speaker 1: this morning and I just do my normal routine and
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Speaker 1: the first person that I see on the television is
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Speaker 1: Damian Woody and he's asked about this, uh, and his
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Speaker 1: reaction to it was, I love it. A player and
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Speaker 1: a blue collar, like, hardworking, like interior offensive lineman type player.
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Speaker 1: I would have thought maybe he would, you know, what
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Speaker 1: a dumb thing. I thought he'd be on my team.
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Speaker 1: He loved it. He loved that a head coach would
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Speaker 1: put himself out there like that and put his team
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Speaker 1: out there like that. And I thought, well, that's just
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Speaker 1: one guy. Then I was driving in and I heard
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Speaker 1: another professional football player, long time successful professional football player,
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Speaker 1: on the airwaves on my drive in, and he was
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Speaker 1: asked about it, and his answer was, oh, I loved it.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, I love that he went even further than
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Speaker 1: would he And I like, man, this is kind of
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Speaker 1: this is very surprising to me because it's one thing
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Speaker 1: to say it behind closed doors, it's another thing to
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Speaker 1: announce to the world. I mean, you were sixth in
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Speaker 1: yards per game last year, you were ninth in scoring.
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Speaker 1: Like you were talking about being the all time greatest
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Speaker 1: offense in the history of the National Football League. You
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Speaker 1: weren't even top five the last time you were on
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Speaker 1: a football field together, and yet you're going to talk
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Speaker 1: like that to start a season. I don't know about you,
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Speaker 1: but I've noticed here recently that today's athlete really does
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Speaker 1: amp up their performance. And I don't think it makes
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Speaker 1: sense that they do when someone else gives them a
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Speaker 1: reason to amp up their performance, like Tom Brady and
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan started a culture of seeking a chip on
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Speaker 1: your shoulder or an extra reason to want to beat
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Speaker 1: that team. And apparently it's very effective. I've asked you
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Speaker 1: about this. He says, it's absolutely effective. Bulletin board material
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Speaker 1: and things of that nature, absolutely effective to give you
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Speaker 1: a an extra little edge. He just gave the rest
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Speaker 1: of the National Football League bulletin board material. He just said,
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Speaker 1: before you've even taken the first snap with an offense
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Speaker 1: that ranked ninth in the National Football League, with a
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Speaker 1: quarterback who ranked last amongst starters in completion percentage on
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Speaker 1: a team that needed seven come from behind fourth quarter
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Speaker 1: miracle victories last night to make the playoffs. And yet
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Speaker 1: he just announced to the world, we want to lead
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Speaker 1: the entire history of football in scoring for this upcoming year.
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Speaker 1: I mean that makes him his team the Bears a
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Speaker 1: target of everyone in the National Football League? Does it not? Oh?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely?
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Speaker 3: And I mean they had They didn't have one shutout
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Speaker 3: that their defense had last year. The closest was beating
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Speaker 3: Cleveland thirty one to three.
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Speaker 2: That was Cleveland.
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Speaker 3: I mean they gave up twenty seven points twenty four
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Speaker 3: on fourteen, twenty four twenty four, I mean forty two points.
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Speaker 3: They they didn't Their defense wasn't even close to something
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Speaker 3: like that. So to go from offensively we're gonna be
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Speaker 3: the best and defensively we're gonna I mean, I just
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Speaker 3: I don't understand it. And it's I don't use this
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Speaker 3: word a lot, but it's cringey because it makes me
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Speaker 3: go like, oh, you shouldn't say that, because now when
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Speaker 3: you get blown out and it's the other team shutting
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Speaker 3: you out, you're gonna get mock relentlessly.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's very self serving Frankly. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's all about him. It's all about Ben Johnson, and
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Speaker 1: apparently this is the way that he has operated. It's
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Speaker 1: what like he and Dan Campbell we find out didn't
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Speaker 1: have that great a relationship, but Dan stayed with him
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Speaker 1: because of how good he is. I mean, he's really good.
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Speaker 1: He's very good at what he does, there's no question
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Speaker 1: about it. But I think the defense was an afterthought.
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Speaker 1: He was putting out there like, we're gonna be the
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Speaker 1: best offense in the history of the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: That's our goal, and yeah, we want to throw shutouts too,
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Speaker 1: so that I don't forget about my defense because I
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Speaker 1: am a head coach now and not offensive coordinator. But
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Speaker 1: I just don't think it's a smart practice. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Damian Woody, Chris Canty feel the other way that they
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Speaker 1: loved it, and they're probably speaking on behalf of professional
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Speaker 1: football players everywhere, and maybe it would rouse the team,
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Speaker 1: maybe it would inspire the team that the head coach
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Speaker 1: expresses that much confidence, But I just don't think it's
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Speaker 1: ever a good practice at this level, the highest level
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Speaker 1: of football, to make yourself a target every single week.
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Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. People already hate him like
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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh hates him. Matt Lafleur hates him. Dan Campbell,
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Speaker 1: I think pretty close hates him. Now, that's those are
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Speaker 1: three teams in your conference that you're gonna have to
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Speaker 1: climb over this year. That you two of those teams
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Speaker 1: you weren't better than a year ago, or I guess
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Speaker 1: they did finish ahead of the Packers. But those are
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Speaker 1: three really good teams in the NFC this year to
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Speaker 1: great teams in the NFC, and they already have you
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Speaker 1: as a target if they ever get to face you.
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Speaker 1: They not only want to beat you, they want to
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Speaker 1: humiliate you. And now you've given their team extra bulletin
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Speaker 1: board material, an extra incentive for doing that. That's five
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Speaker 1: games right there. I don't know if the Bears play
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Speaker 1: the Rams or not, but they play the Lions twice
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Speaker 1: and they play the Packers twice. All right, so you
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Speaker 1: already have three powers in the NFC that already don't like.
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Speaker 1: You already have an extra incentive for beating the Chicago Bears.
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Speaker 1: And Ben Johnson acting like he's accomplished something after one
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Speaker 1: year of success as a head coach in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League. But what's that gonna do to everybody else.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I realized Mike McDonald's probably not gonna use
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Speaker 1: bulletin board material like the next guy, right, But Ashley
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Speaker 1: when the defensive best defensive minded head coach in the
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Speaker 1: National Football If he has a chance to face the
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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears for the upcoming season, and Ben Johnson's already
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Speaker 1: declared to everyone that they're going to have the highest
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Speaker 1: scoring offense in the history of the National Football League
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Speaker 1: this year and he's not predicting it, but he did
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Speaker 1: say that that is the goal for the upcoming season.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they come to Seattle on November two. Mike
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Speaker 1: McDonald doesn't seem to me like someone that would fuel
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Speaker 1: his own gut with that kind of fire, but he
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Speaker 1: definitely seems like somebody that would use that to fuel
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Speaker 1: his team going into that game this week. Remind them, hey,
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Speaker 1: we're the best defense in the National Football League right now,
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Speaker 1: this guy thinks they're the best offense of all time.
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Speaker 1: Who's not going to use that the week of game
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Speaker 1: preparation for the Chicago Bears. The Seahawks are going to
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Speaker 1: do it, and I think everybody in the National Football
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Speaker 1: League's going to do it. And Ben Johnson just decided
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Speaker 1: to make his team's quest to win a Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: that much more difficult on a weekly basis by declaring
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Speaker 1: that he thinks his offense could be the greatest that's
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Speaker 1: ever lived.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I could understand too, as you mentioned earlier,
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Speaker 3: if you did it behind closed doors and that was
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Speaker 3: your team's thing and you're not saying it out loud
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Speaker 3: to the media, okay, And then if you're on hard
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Speaker 3: knocks and it gets caught on hard knocks, well okay,
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Speaker 3: what can you do?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: But there, this is him just openly wanting to say this.
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Speaker 3: And it doesn't take Mike McDonald to remind his players
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Speaker 3: that this is what he said, because it's out there.
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Speaker 2: His players all hurt it. They know it. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: so it is. It is.
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Speaker 3: It will be in the in everyone's mind that they play,
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Speaker 3: and they'll be out to make them look like fools.
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Speaker 1: And it will be a couple of months, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: you better believe everybody's gonna remind. Yeah, certainly the number
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Speaker 1: one defensive coach for the number one defense is going
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Speaker 1: to remind that this guy in Chicago thinks that their
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Speaker 1: offense is the best of all time, even though they
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Speaker 1: finished ninth in scoring a year ago, and so I
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Speaker 1: think it's a huge mistake. I think it's I think
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson has just made the Chicago Bears a target,
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Speaker 1: not just a good team to prepare for, but a
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Speaker 1: target one to make a point against. And in a
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Speaker 1: modern era of where players are looking for any edge
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Speaker 1: chasing edges, man Ben Johnson just gave everyone in the
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Speaker 1: National Football League a reason to ratchet it up against
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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears this year. And I know that all
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Speaker 1: coaches are gonna use that as fuel. And I would
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Speaker 1: also say this, I mean, I watched Jayden Daniels take
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Speaker 1: the league by storm two years ago and then fall
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Speaker 1: on his face the next season. And I know he
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Speaker 1: had injuries, but he fell on his face. He did
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Speaker 1: not play well last year either. And that was a
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Speaker 1: team that two years ago just kept pulling games out
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Speaker 1: of the fire. I mean, they won a lot of
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Speaker 1: games two years ago, and Jadan Daniels was a big
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Speaker 1: reason why. But they just they pulled off every magical
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Speaker 1: comeback that there was two years ago, and then the
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Speaker 1: next year that magic was gone and they weren't able
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Speaker 1: to beat anyone. I think the Chicago Bears are really
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Speaker 1: good I think Caleb Williams is really good. I think
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is really good at what he does. But
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Speaker 1: for them to sort of have anointed themselves so highly
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Speaker 1: when I think your goal this year is to prove
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Speaker 1: you're not the Washington Commanders of twenty twenty five. Here
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. You had a lot of pull
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Speaker 1: games out of the fire moments a year ago, a
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Speaker 1: lot of games that you should have lost, and somehow
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Speaker 1: the football gods smiled on you and you pulled some
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Speaker 1: stuff completely out of your took us this and so
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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you're great, and you've got to repeat that.
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Speaker 1: You've got to show you're not gonna get the same
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Speaker 1: luck this year. Look at the Kansas City Chiefs. How
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Speaker 1: many games close games they won two years ago and
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Speaker 1: then they couldn't pull them out a year ago and
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Speaker 1: they fell hard. Yeah, last season, So the Chicago Bears
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Speaker 1: have a lot of proving to do that. Last year
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Speaker 1: wasn't a fluke for goodness sake, because they're not gonna
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Speaker 1: pull the same games out magically in the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 1: Commanders didn't do it a year ago and they're not
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Speaker 1: going to do it this year. And for him to
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Speaker 1: have put them put the cart completely in front of
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Speaker 1: the horse on this when they've got a lot of
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Speaker 1: proving to do that they're as good as they were
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Speaker 1: a year ago, and now he's broadcasting to the world
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Speaker 1: we might be the best of all time. Man. I
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Speaker 1: think that that is a terrible mistake on his part,
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Speaker 1: even though I got two out of two former players,
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Speaker 1: the only former players whose opinions I've heard about this
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Speaker 1: this morning, and they both think it's a wonderful idea.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's surprising to me because I wouldn't think most
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Speaker 3: people would think that was good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I can't wait now for November. Second, let's see,
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Speaker 1: let's get it on all right. Coming up next, the
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Speaker 1: Mariners aren't done, but we'll talk about that next. Sports
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Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three kJ A r f M. Hey,
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Speaker 1: great morning to you all. Chuck Powell, Ashley Ryan with you.
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Speaker 1: We are broadcasting from training camp Shawks training camp getting
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Speaker 1: ready for the preseason opener on Saturday against the Dallas Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: More on that coming up a little bit later on
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Speaker 1: in the show. Also, we'll talk some college football. Huskies
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Speaker 1: football today at nine o'clock with dog Man's Scott eckln
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Speaker 1: he's he's been at that Huskies camp. He's been at
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Speaker 1: that camp, so he can tell us all the details
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Speaker 1: about how Demon Williams Junior looks at quarterback and about
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Speaker 1: you know how the other day Chris Fetters fell asleep
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Speaker 1: at camp and he put his hand in some warm
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Speaker 1: water and made him wet his pants.
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Speaker 2: Those are stories right from Husky camp.
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Speaker 1: How he made him macaroni necklace for coach Fish. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: so right, we're gonna talk camp with Scott Eckland coming
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Speaker 1: up at nine o'clock today, So this is our chance
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Speaker 1: to talk about our Mariners team. Maybe we don't even
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Speaker 1: want to be reminded, but another loss last night, a
20:17
Speaker 1: new way to lose last night where you scored early,
20:20
Speaker 1: scored five runs but couldn't hold the lead. And the
20:24
Speaker 1: guy that we thought should come in the game but
20:26
Speaker 1: couldn't two nights ago comes in the game last night
20:29
Speaker 1: and just couldn't get anybody out in Gabe Spire. So
20:33
Speaker 1: a ten to five loss drops the team nine games
20:36
Speaker 1: under five hundred, and things look awfully grim on the
20:39
Speaker 1: playoff front for the Seattle Mariners this year. Never thought
20:43
Speaker 1: that it would dip to this low of a status
20:46
Speaker 1: and yet that's where we sit here on August thirteenth,
20:50
Speaker 1: nine games under five hundred and five and a half
20:52
Speaker 1: games out of first place. Now, before we start getting
20:54
Speaker 1: into some stuff, I do want to point out one
20:57
Speaker 1: apologies on a rant earlier about cold Emerson. Why didn't
21:02
Speaker 1: you try You didn't even think about laying down a bunch? Well,
21:05
Speaker 1: apparently they did. Apparently I missed that.
21:07
Speaker 2: Yeah did it one time?
21:08
Speaker 1: Yeah? I guess he did try to lay out a
21:10
Speaker 1: bunt last night, So me saying you didn't even consider
21:13
Speaker 1: it obviously was wrong. I must have looked away for
21:17
Speaker 1: a brief moment from the game last night, but I
21:19
Speaker 1: missed that entirely, So I do apologize for that. They
21:23
Speaker 1: at least did consider bunting, but they didn't marry themselves
21:26
Speaker 1: to it. No.
21:27
Speaker 3: Sure, well, I will say too, even if you like
21:29
Speaker 3: look down at one point, you would have missed it,
21:32
Speaker 3: because when he hit the bunt, it went like straight
21:35
Speaker 3: up in the air and fouled off to his left,
21:37
Speaker 3: So it didn't like if you saw that part in
21:39
Speaker 3: the contact, then you wouldn't have known that he actually
21:41
Speaker 3: attempted a bunt.
21:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I didn't see it, so I just went
21:46
Speaker 1: off of the fact that I didn't see it, and
21:48
Speaker 1: I thought that was a mistake. I think he could
21:50
Speaker 1: have bunted every single time up last night. I really do,
21:53
Speaker 1: the way he's hitting and the fact that he inherited
21:55
Speaker 1: traffic with nobody out each inning. Because Cale got on
21:58
Speaker 1: base three times last night, I thought it was a
22:02
Speaker 1: perfect opportunity to commit to a little small ball last night,
22:06
Speaker 1: and they didn't do it. But that's a small criticism.
22:09
Speaker 1: I don't think that Dan mishandled the game last night.
22:12
Speaker 1: That's not the reason that we lost the game. It
22:15
Speaker 1: had more to do with our pitching this time, could
22:17
Speaker 1: not step up against the struggling offense that the Yankees have.
22:21
Speaker 1: I'd also point out Cole Young left the game with dizziness.
22:24
Speaker 1: I don't know how that started yesterday. But he's not
22:27
Speaker 1: in the lineup again today either, So hopefully Pol's okay.
22:31
Speaker 1: And then cal Raley boy didn't take long. They're so ache,
22:34
Speaker 1: they're more anxious than we are to get Cal going,
22:37
Speaker 1: because he had a good night at the plate. He
22:39
Speaker 1: got on base three times, and he had a hit
22:41
Speaker 1: in two walks and looked a lot, a lot better
22:44
Speaker 1: than what he's looked and so they you only have
22:48
Speaker 1: to show him one game of that he's in. He's
22:51
Speaker 1: hitting fourth today. Wow. They put him right back from
22:54
Speaker 1: eighth up to fourth in the cleanup spot today. So
22:57
Speaker 1: they must have seen something actually that they like last night.
23:00
Speaker 2: I mean, and I don't blame them. He looked more
23:03
Speaker 2: relaxed yesterday. He did look good.
23:05
Speaker 3: He he was screen he made smart decisions, and I
23:08
Speaker 3: mean I was shocked when he walked the first time,
23:10
Speaker 3: and then when he did it the second time, I
23:11
Speaker 3: was like, what is happening?
23:12
Speaker 2: This is excellent. When he got the hit, it was great.
23:15
Speaker 3: I hope I hope. I mean, we say, we've said
23:18
Speaker 3: this a lot, not just about cal but with this
23:20
Speaker 3: team in general. I hope that's the start of something.
23:23
Speaker 3: But for him, I really hope that's the start of something,
23:25
Speaker 3: because it's got a way on you. To go from
23:28
Speaker 3: the top, top, top last year to this struggle that
23:30
Speaker 3: he's had this year and trying to make sense of
23:33
Speaker 3: it and trying to figure it out and trying to
23:35
Speaker 3: do it while you're still the face of the organization
23:37
Speaker 3: and in front of everybody has to be a lot.
23:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're the leader of the team, and you
23:42
Speaker 1: can't lead because you aren't playing well. You're playing worse
23:46
Speaker 1: than anybody else who's going to listen to you. Yeah,
23:48
Speaker 1: at this stage, even though you have obviously earned a
23:52
Speaker 1: good reputation as a leader in that locker room. I mean,
23:55
Speaker 1: can you tell anybody to step up their game when
23:58
Speaker 1: you're hitting one fifty nine going into last night. So
24:01
Speaker 1: that's also I think been a conflict within him. But
24:04
Speaker 1: I'll say this because I start what is it four
24:09
Speaker 1: days ago? I said, I think I was Monday. Yeah,
24:12
Speaker 1: it was Monday. I came on the air and I
24:13
Speaker 1: said for the first time this year that I'm on
24:16
Speaker 1: the other side of the fence of doubting it, that
24:20
Speaker 1: I'm on the other side of the fence of thinking
24:21
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. And then yesterday I kind
24:25
Speaker 1: of performed my eulogy for the team on the show yesterday.
24:30
Speaker 1: It does feel like it's done to me, but of
24:34
Speaker 1: course it's not. Mathematically it can be overcome. This franchise
24:40
Speaker 1: itself has overcome a lot larger deficit in the past
24:44
Speaker 1: with less time remaining in the season, and so it
24:47
Speaker 1: can be done if you have the talent, and I
24:50
Speaker 1: do still believe that they have the talent, and something
24:53
Speaker 1: like getting cal Rawley going will go a long way
24:56
Speaker 1: toward heating this team up, no question about that. But
25:00
Speaker 1: it does feel like it's too much of a hole
25:04
Speaker 1: that you've dug yourself to overcome at this stage in
25:08
Speaker 1: the season. It feels grimmed to me. But if there
25:10
Speaker 1: is a chance, and there is a chance, then that
25:13
Speaker 1: happens this weekend, Ashley, forget about today. I mean, yeah,
25:18
Speaker 1: I mean every loss is awful at this stage in
25:21
Speaker 1: the season, but this weekend you do have a chance
25:25
Speaker 1: to kind of sweep or die. You face the Houston Astros,
25:29
Speaker 1: and there's no quicker way to get back into a
25:34
Speaker 1: race than head to head. And they have dominated the
25:37
Speaker 1: Houston Astros, not just this season, but for the last
25:40
Speaker 1: two seasons, and so to take a big chunk, you
25:45
Speaker 1: do have control over that. And no, you can't overcome
25:49
Speaker 1: them by the end of the weekend, but if you
25:52
Speaker 1: could cut this thing, reduce this thing from five and
25:54
Speaker 1: a half to two and a half games by Sunday
25:57
Speaker 1: night with a month ago, now all of us sudden,
26:00
Speaker 1: the clouds do lift and the sun comes out, and
26:03
Speaker 1: you've got twenty five games to overcome two and a
26:06
Speaker 1: half in the American League West, and yes, there is
26:10
Speaker 1: your chance, there's your crack in the door. There is
26:13
Speaker 1: your opportunity, even though you really haven't earned it this
26:16
Speaker 1: year and are taking advantage of a down American League West.
26:20
Speaker 1: There is your chance to force your way back into
26:23
Speaker 1: this divisional race and maybe go on a run toward
26:27
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So it doesn't feel good purely because it's
26:31
Speaker 1: been so long since they've played even decent baseball, and
26:35
Speaker 1: how is that gonna happen in a snap overnight? But
26:39
Speaker 1: the path is there. The pathway is there this weekend.
26:42
Speaker 1: If you do take that big chunk two out of three,
26:45
Speaker 1: won't get it done. That only gains a game. If
26:48
Speaker 1: you take that big chunk three games away from the
26:52
Speaker 1: Houston Astros, there's your path toward getting back. And that's
26:55
Speaker 1: real momentum. That's not you know, just.
26:59
Speaker 2: A game here or there.
27:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, three good at bats from Cal Rawley last night,
27:03
Speaker 1: or Colt Emerson answering a bench clearing discussion with a
27:08
Speaker 1: home run the next stanning, or you know, even a
27:11
Speaker 1: two game winning streak. Now that's real momentum right there.
27:17
Speaker 1: But that's gonna happen this weekend, And frankly, it's the
27:20
Speaker 1: last chance. That's last chance Motel Ashley.
27:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I again will continue to be stupidly optimistic.
27:25
Speaker 3: But I do think, I mean, the thing that glares
27:29
Speaker 3: to a lot of people, and it's understandable is the
27:30
Speaker 3: fact that we're nine games under five hundred.
27:32
Speaker 2: But that's not the number you have to worry about
27:34
Speaker 2: right now.
27:34
Speaker 3: The number you have to worry about is how far
27:36
Speaker 3: back you are in the al West, Because you could
27:38
Speaker 3: be under five hundred, win the AL West and you're
27:39
Speaker 3: still going to the playoffs, And whether or not you
27:42
Speaker 3: deserve it because this season.
27:43
Speaker 2: Hasn't been good.
27:44
Speaker 3: Well, nobody in the AL West really deserves it, right,
27:47
Speaker 3: and nobody's just running away with this thing when a
27:49
Speaker 3: year where someone should be so go out there and
27:51
Speaker 3: take it. Don't don't let someone take what take it
27:56
Speaker 3: from you when you have every right to it too.
27:58
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, and I mean, do you guys, I don't
28:03
Speaker 1: think Seattle fans some hate Beastquake, do they?
28:07
Speaker 3: I don't think.
28:07
Speaker 1: So you should love it, really still love that to
28:10
Speaker 1: this day, don't they.
28:11
Speaker 2: Yeah?
28:12
Speaker 1: That was a seven and nine football team that had
28:14
Speaker 1: no business being in the playoffs. Had they taken that
28:18
Speaker 1: beast quake momentum and gone all the way to the
28:20
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Would a Seahawk fan have apologized for being there?
28:24
Speaker 3: I would have been so mad. Oh, guys, we didn't
28:25
Speaker 3: deserve it. We were seven and nine, shouldn't have been here. No,
28:28
Speaker 3: whatever your record is, it doesn't matter. Get into the
28:30
Speaker 3: damn playoffs and make something happen.
28:32
Speaker 1: And when you have the talent, it could be real.
28:35
Speaker 1: That could be real. And I still believe they do
28:38
Speaker 1: have the talent if they can just fix how poorly
28:42
Speaker 1: they are playing. At this point, I'll ask you, look,
28:47
Speaker 1: I heard rumor that you were going to give up
28:50
Speaker 1: on superstitions, that it wasn't working, that you finally realized
28:54
Speaker 1: that the way you sit on the couch, or the
28:56
Speaker 1: things that you wear, or how you cheer or how
29:00
Speaker 1: you do your hair has no impact on the playoffs.
29:03
Speaker 1: And yet are you going to watch the rest of
29:06
Speaker 1: the season in bed? Is that what I'm to understand.
29:08
Speaker 3: There's a solid chance, Chuck, and we're going on vacation
29:11
Speaker 3: next week. So I thought, like, well, will it be
29:12
Speaker 3: frowned upon if I just don't hang out with our
29:14
Speaker 3: friends and sit and watch Mariners games in bed? In Hawaii,
29:17
Speaker 3: because that's what so completely, this is how superstitions are born.
29:22
Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to be superstitious at all. And I
29:26
Speaker 3: had to take a late nap because I'd work and
29:28
Speaker 3: other things. So I didn't lay down till like two thirty,
29:31
Speaker 3: and I was going to wake up at four thirty.
29:33
Speaker 3: Always give myself two hours so I have time to
29:35
Speaker 3: fall asleep and time to wake up.
29:37
Speaker 2: And I ended up waking up at four oh four
29:41
Speaker 2: or four four to eleven.
29:42
Speaker 3: So I turned the game on right as it's starting,
29:44
Speaker 3: and I see Cole Young get on base, I see
29:47
Speaker 3: Randy hit his home run, and I'm in there, laying.
29:50
Speaker 2: In bed, still no lights on, thinking like, oh my gosh,
29:53
Speaker 2: this is great.
29:54
Speaker 3: And right then five Iron walked in from his office
29:56
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I can't believe that a home run?
29:59
Speaker 2: And then who hits his home run? And then Palmer the.
30:02
Speaker 3: Great hears me yell, oh my god, Julio too, and
30:04
Speaker 3: so she comes running in. Well, now we're all three
30:06
Speaker 3: laying in bed, and we then score another run. And
30:10
Speaker 3: then I'm like, wait a minute, do we have to
30:12
Speaker 3: do this forever? And I said it, and Palmer the
30:14
Speaker 3: Great was like, yes, we do this will be awesome.
30:17
Speaker 3: So then we had to like have a conversation. I
30:19
Speaker 3: think it was in the fifth inning. We were yeah,
30:24
Speaker 3: we were up five three or whatever it was, and
30:26
Speaker 3: I said, all right, sixth inning, if no one scores,
30:30
Speaker 3: we're going into the living room. If they score and
30:33
Speaker 3: we don't, we're going in the living room. If we
30:35
Speaker 3: score and they don't, we'll stay here. No one scored,
30:38
Speaker 3: so we went.
30:38
Speaker 2: In the living room.
30:39
Speaker 1: Okay.
30:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then now I'm I'm regretting. We should have
30:43
Speaker 2: stayed in the bed.
30:44
Speaker 1: Should have stayed in the bed.
30:46
Speaker 3: Invite people over to watch Mariners games. Hey, guys, you
30:48
Speaker 3: want to come watch the Mariners game?
30:50
Speaker 2: We all just hang out in our bed.
30:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like Willy Wonka, like grandparents and Wonka.
30:55
Speaker 3: Okay, you've got your head up here, your feet are
30:57
Speaker 3: over here.
31:01
Speaker 1: Well see, now here's here. Now here's my problem with
31:04
Speaker 1: all of this, because if I'm to be honest, you know,
31:07
Speaker 1: working with you for now, what are we going on?
31:09
Speaker 1: Six years?
31:10
Speaker 2: We're five?
31:11
Speaker 1: Just for yeah, five six years. Not only do I
31:15
Speaker 1: think that your superstitions are silly, Yes, they're insane, Yeah,
31:20
Speaker 1: because they really don't have any impact. But now I'm
31:24
Speaker 1: rooting for the fact that they get on a tear
31:28
Speaker 1: because you are in bed for every game, and then
31:32
Speaker 1: we're gonna have bedcam and everything else. And then there's
31:35
Speaker 1: there are people added to your bedroom while you and
31:39
Speaker 1: five iron are in your kerchiefs and you're flowing bed
31:44
Speaker 1: gowns and the family sitting there in bed, and yet
31:47
Speaker 1: you have friends over to party with you while you're
31:50
Speaker 1: watching the playoffs while in bed. That's what I'm rooting for.
31:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I embraced the chaos. I'm in let's do it,
31:58
Speaker 3: and I'm I have already had the thought of okay,
32:00
Speaker 3: gate today's games at ten thirty. I'm not gonna leave
32:04
Speaker 3: here till ten. I'm gonna miss the first ten minutes.
32:07
Speaker 3: But then do I just go get in bed because
32:08
Speaker 3: they also have work to do.
32:10
Speaker 1: I would just say test it. So you're not gonna
32:12
Speaker 1: be able to get home in time by ten thirty, yeah,
32:15
Speaker 1: but you will get in time during the game. For
32:17
Speaker 1: wherever you are in the game, just go lay in bed, okay.
32:20
Speaker 1: And if things get better, even if we're up, if
32:23
Speaker 1: they just keep getting better, then you know something's up.
32:26
Speaker 3: Well, because we know no amount of runs that we're
32:28
Speaker 3: up are safe, So we just got to keep stacking them.
32:32
Speaker 3: And if it comes down to it, I'll move the
32:33
Speaker 3: bed into the living room and we can have parties
32:35
Speaker 3: in there.
32:36
Speaker 1: That's fine because we got a golden tick and we
32:40
Speaker 1: got a gold head.
32:42
Speaker 3: If it gets the Mariners a golden ticket, sign me up.
32:45
Speaker 3: I'm willing to do whatever it takes.
32:48
Speaker 1: Well, I am officially, for the first time ever, rooting
32:52
Speaker 1: for one of your superstitutions to be true, because I
32:55
Speaker 1: want to do bedcam.
32:57
Speaker 3: This might be the most stressful of all my super
33:00
Speaker 3: trying to figureut a way to make this work constantly.
33:02
Speaker 1: And I want five iron uncomfortably on bedcam throughout the
33:07
Speaker 1: entire playoffs. Who doesn't That's what I want to see.
33:10
Speaker 2: I Meanwhile, Palmer the Great will think it's the greatest
33:12
Speaker 2: thing that's ever.
33:12
Speaker 1: Well, she will. She'll love it. Yeah, he'll hate it,
33:15
Speaker 1: but he will be compelled to do it. Yep, he'll
33:18
Speaker 1: add no choice because all of Seattle is counting on you.
33:21
Speaker 1: Three correct, All right, Scott Eckland at nine o'clock coming
33:27
Speaker 1: up next? Preseason games start tonight and you know what
33:31
Speaker 1: that means. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.
33:35
Speaker 1: All right, Scott Ecklet's gonna join us at nine o'clock.
33:38
Speaker 1: Dog Man Husky's camp. He's out there. He's gonna be
33:41
Speaker 1: our eyes and ears, tell us everything that's going on
33:43
Speaker 1: with the Dolls. So that comes your way up to
33:46
Speaker 1: nine o'clock. Here this morning, it's Chuck and Ashley with you.
33:49
Speaker 1: We also have camp battle in our last hour as well.
33:53
Speaker 1: And this Saturday, we're two days away from it. We've
33:56
Speaker 1: got our first Seahawks preseason game, the champs return of
34:00
Speaker 1: the field tomorrow, excuse me, Saturday night against the Dallas Cowboys.
34:04
Speaker 1: And here we go the annual tradition. And it doesn't
34:08
Speaker 1: matter how old I get, how long I've done this job,
34:12
Speaker 1: how long I've been a sports fan, the same exact
34:16
Speaker 1: thing happens to me every single year. I get fired
34:20
Speaker 1: up for NFL preseason and I'm just sure Ashley like,
34:25
Speaker 1: oh man, oh oh, preseason games tonight. Oh gosh, I'm
34:30
Speaker 1: gonna Detroit Cincinnati. That's the first kickoff. Oh. I cannot
34:35
Speaker 1: wait to see what the Lions new offense looks like.
34:40
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Green Bay Pittsburgh. What you
34:45
Speaker 1: know what? What's his name? Howard is gonna look like
34:51
Speaker 1: in the under center for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, I
34:53
Speaker 1: can't wait till Saturday and find out what this Michael
34:56
Speaker 1: Dansby is all about, the draft pick for this I've
35:00
Speaker 1: heard so much of them at camp I cannot wait.
35:03
Speaker 1: So that's how I am frof thing at the mouth,
35:07
Speaker 1: fevered to watch some football, committed to learning as much
35:11
Speaker 1: as I possibly can about every team out there, even
35:15
Speaker 1: their third fourth stringers, because there's some there's a nugget,
35:18
Speaker 1: there's a granule to take from there that will be
35:21
Speaker 1: effective for me. As the sports talk show els, and
35:24
Speaker 1: It'll take about one and a half drives and I'll
35:26
Speaker 1: be bored with all of it.
35:28
Speaker 2: Yes exactly, I will be the same. I'm like, I'll
35:31
Speaker 2: turn it on.
35:31
Speaker 3: Oh, look, go that was great and they scored done.
35:36
Speaker 1: And every year it just feels like it's longer. Even
35:40
Speaker 1: though they're playing fewer preseason games, thank you, Roger, damn
35:44
Speaker 1: you Roger. That fewer preseason it still feels longer than ever.
35:50
Speaker 1: Like I I will keep score Saturday night, and I
35:53
Speaker 1: will be keeping score into the second quarter, and it'll
35:56
Speaker 1: be about the second quarter. I'm like, gosh, I wish
35:58
Speaker 1: a regular season game would get here.
36:02
Speaker 2: Exactly.
36:03
Speaker 1: I'm having a really hard time with this.
36:05
Speaker 3: These next couple of weeks are gonna take about two months,
36:08
Speaker 3: That's what it's gonna feel like.
36:10
Speaker 1: Uh so, yes, And I always have this thought, like
36:13
Speaker 1: my fantasy football I'm gonna get my scout on. We
36:17
Speaker 1: have so many snitches and then I'll watch and then
36:21
Speaker 1: a half drives of the Lions and the Bengals tonight,
36:25
Speaker 1: and I'll be like that baseball's on real games.
36:28
Speaker 3: You're gonna be like, oh, it's actually too early to
36:30
Speaker 3: worry about fantasy football yet, Well.
36:32
Speaker 1: What do you do? I mean, like seriously, like Aaron
36:34
Speaker 1: Rodgers said it this week, they're not real games. I
36:36
Speaker 1: mean when when when a guy that's been around the
36:39
Speaker 1: league for that long is saying, no, I don't want
36:41
Speaker 1: to play in the preseason games. They're not real games.
36:44
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well then why are we doing it?
36:48
Speaker 1: And I do think we won't. I think that's gonna
36:51
Speaker 1: be something that does happen for the football fan that
36:55
Speaker 1: we won't have preseason games in the very near future.
36:58
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have an eighteen game schedule, a
37:01
Speaker 1: twenty week season with two buys built into it, and
37:05
Speaker 1: in order to get that eighteenth game and that extra
37:08
Speaker 1: bye week that lengthens the season. I think the return
37:12
Speaker 1: will be no preseason games, and I don't think we
37:15
Speaker 1: need them, I really don't. I mean, college football is
37:19
Speaker 1: a pretty high level of football and they don't have
37:23
Speaker 1: preseason games. I mean, so why is it necessary that
37:27
Speaker 1: the National Football League has them? And the truth of
37:29
Speaker 1: the matter is that it isn't. And yet it's an
37:32
Speaker 1: opportunity to sell tickets for you know, three more games
37:36
Speaker 1: per team. And yes, there are some things to decide
37:40
Speaker 1: on the back end, which I'm sure a preseason game
37:42
Speaker 1: is rather helpful in making those decisions. But it's not
37:45
Speaker 1: like you can't make those decisions without preseason action. So
37:51
Speaker 1: I think that the preseason is a dinosaur shivering in
37:55
Speaker 1: the snow. I think eventually it will be extinct and
37:59
Speaker 1: that'll be a happy day. But until that time, we
38:04
Speaker 1: will have to endure. And so I will go in
38:06
Speaker 1: with my eyes wide open, excited, frothing at the mouth,
38:10
Speaker 1: and I'll try to get to the third quarter this
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