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When Horses Become More Than a Hobby · Two Point Perspective

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  People
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  call
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  riding
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  horses
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  a
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  hobby
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  all
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  the
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  time.
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  Honestly,
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  that's
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  so
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  not
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  accurate.
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  A
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  hobby
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  is
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  something
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  you
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  do
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  when
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  you
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  have
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  time.
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  Horses
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  have
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  a
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  funny
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  way
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  of
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  becoming
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  the
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  thing
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  that
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  you
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  make
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  time
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  for.
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  For
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  example,
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  I
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  drive
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  an
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  hour
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  each
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  way
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  just
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  to
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  ride
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  for
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  20
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  or
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  30
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  minutes
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  almost
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  every
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  day.
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  If
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  you've
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  listened
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  to
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  this
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  podcast
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  for
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  a
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  while,
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  you,
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  you
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  know
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  my
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  story.
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  There
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  were
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  years
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  when
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  I
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  desperately
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  wanted
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  horses
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  to
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  be
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  a
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  much
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  bigger
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  part
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  of
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  my
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  life.
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  But
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  they
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  just
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  couldn't
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  be.
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  College
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  came
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  first,
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  marriage
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  came
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  first,
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  kids
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  came
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  first.
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  Work
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  came
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  first.
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  Yes,
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  I
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  rode
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  whenever
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  I
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  could,
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  wherever
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  I
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  could,
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  but
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  horses
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  had
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  to
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  fit
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  around
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  everything
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  else
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  I
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  was
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  doing.
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  Then,
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  little
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  by
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  little,
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  life
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  began
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  to
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  change.
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  Not
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  because
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  I
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  loved
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  horses
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  any
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  more
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  than
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  I
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  always
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  had,
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  but
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  because
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  I
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  finally
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  had
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  the
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  opportunity
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  to
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  make
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  them
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  a
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  bigger
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  part
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  of
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  my
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  life.
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  And
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  somewhere
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  along
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  the
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  way,
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  I
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  realized
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  something.
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  The
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  dream
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  hadn't
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  changed,
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  but
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  life
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  had.
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  For
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  years,
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  horses
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  fit
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  into
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  whatever
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  space
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  was
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  left.
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  But
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  now
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  I
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  have
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  the
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  privilege
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  of
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  building
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  a
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  life
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  that
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  I
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  that
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  makes
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  room
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  for
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  them.
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  And
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  that's
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  a
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  very
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  different
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  thing.
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  This
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  is
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  two
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  point
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  perspective.
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  Two
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  riders
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  with
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  different
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  viewpoints
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  from
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  different
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  generations
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  talking
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  about
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  the
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  same
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  sport.
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  that
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  my
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  story
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  is
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  that
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  unusual.
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  almost
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  every
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  horse
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  person
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  has
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  a
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  moment
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  where
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  they
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  realize
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  this
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  isn't
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  just
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  something
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  they
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  do
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  anymore.
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  It
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  become
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  part
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  of
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  actually
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  who
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  they
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  are.
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  Did
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  that
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  happen
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  to
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  you?
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  Tell
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  me
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  about
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  growing
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  up.
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  I
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  guess
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  there's
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  pictures
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  of
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  me
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  where
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  I'm
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  sitting
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  on
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  a
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  pony
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  with
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  my
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  brother
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  with
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  my
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  passy
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  in
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  my
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  mouth.
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  So
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  my
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  aunt
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  bred
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  horses,
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  sold
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  horses,
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  rode,
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  and
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  that
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  was
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  on
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  my
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  dad's
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  side.
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  And
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  my
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  mom
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  and
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  my
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  grandmother
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  and
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  my
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  uncle
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  were
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  all
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  involved
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  in
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  horses.
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  So
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  that
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  I.
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  Not
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  to
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  say
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  that
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  I
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  didn't
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  have
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  a
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  choice,
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  but
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  I
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  was
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  kind
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  of
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  immersed
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  in
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  it
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  from
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  the
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  jump.
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  Like
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  I
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  never
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  let
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  it
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  go.
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  I
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  think
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  my
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  mom
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  sort
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  of
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  like
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  in
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  the
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  beginning
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  thought
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  like,
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  oh
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  yeah,
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  like
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  my
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  daughter
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  will
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  ride.
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  And
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  then
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  I
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  got
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  into
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  high
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  school
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  and
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  she
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  was
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  like,
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  this
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  is
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  probably
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  like
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  where
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  this
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  will
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  get
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  a
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  little,
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  you
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  know,
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  she'll
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  let
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  this
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  go.
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  Didn't
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  let
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  it
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  go,
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  Then
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  rode
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  in
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  college
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  and
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  she
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  was
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  like,
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  oh,
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  we're
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  still
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  going,
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  and
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  rode
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  it
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  as
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  an
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  adult.
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  So
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  I've
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  never
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  not
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  had
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  horses
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  in
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  my
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  life
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  for
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  as
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  much
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  as
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  I
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  can
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  remember
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  it.
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  And
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  it's
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  been
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  in
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  our
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  family,
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  so
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  I
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  don't
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  know,
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  I
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  mean,
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  I
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  just
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  have
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  never
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  let
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  it
• 2:46
  go.
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  Was
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  there
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  one
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  horse
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  that
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  made
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  it
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  clear
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  that
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  you
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  weren't
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  gonna
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  Deviate?
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  Well,
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  yeah.
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  The
• 2:54
  mare
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  that
• 2:54
  I
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  grew
• 2:55
  up
• 2:55
  riding
• 2:55
  on
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  taught
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  me
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  a
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  ton
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  and
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  a
• 2:58
  lot
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  about
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  grit
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  and
• 2:59
  determination
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  because
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  she
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  was
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  spectacular,
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  but
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  she
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  could
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  be
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  difficult.
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  It's
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  hard
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  because
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  I
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  started
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  riding
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  her
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  when
• 3:06
  I
• 3:06
  was
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  8.
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  I
• 3:07
  didn't
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  do
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  the
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  pony
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  thing.
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  Like,
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  I
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  had
• 3:08
  a
• 3:08
  pony
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  for,
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  like.
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  Like,
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  a
• 3:09
  split
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  second
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  to
• 3:10
  learn
• 3:10
  how
• 3:10
  to
• 3:10
  ride,
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  and
• 3:11
  then
• 3:11
  they
• 3:11
  were
• 3:11
  like,
• 3:11
  here's
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  your
• 3:12
  horse.
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  And
• 3:13
  my
• 3:13
  aunt
• 3:13
  bred
• 3:13
  her.
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  And
• 3:14
  so,
• 3:14
  like,
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  that
• 3:15
  was
• 3:15
  really
• 3:15
  cool
• 3:16
  because
• 3:17
  then
• 3:17
  she
• 3:17
  was
• 3:18
  mine,
• 3:18
  and
• 3:18
  my
• 3:18
  aunt
• 3:19
  gave
• 3:19
  her
• 3:19
  to
• 3:19
  me.
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  But
• 3:20
  in
• 3:20
  terms
• 3:20
  of
• 3:21
  when,
• 3:21
  I
• 3:21
  got
• 3:21
  very
• 3:21
  serious
• 3:22
  about
• 3:22
  showing
• 3:22
  with
• 3:22
  her,
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  but
• 3:23
  it
• 3:23
  was
• 3:24
  time
• 3:24
  for
• 3:24
  me
• 3:24
  to
• 3:24
  level
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  up
• 3:25
  and
• 3:25
  have
• 3:25
  a
• 3:26
  horse
• 3:26
  that
• 3:26
  was
• 3:26
  bigger.
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  And
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  his
• 3:28
  name
• 3:28
  was
• 3:28
  Kelso,
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  and
• 3:30
  he
• 3:30
  had
• 3:31
  difficult
• 3:31
  lead
• 3:31
  changes,
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  but
• 3:32
  he's
• 3:33
  the
• 3:33
  horse
• 3:33
  that
• 3:33
  got
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  me
• 3:34
  into
• 3:34
  the
• 3:34
  rated
• 3:35
  show
• 3:35
  scene.
• 3:35
  And
• 3:35
  he
• 3:36
  did
• 3:36
  look
• 3:36
  like
• 3:36
  I
• 3:36
  did
• 3:36
  local
• 3:37
  stuff
• 3:37
  with
• 3:37
  him,
• 3:37
  but
• 3:37
  he.
• 3:37
  He
• 3:38
  traveled
• 3:38
  all
• 3:38
  over.
• 3:38
  So
• 3:39
  I
• 3:39
  would
• 3:39
  say
• 3:39
  that
• 3:39
  he
• 3:39
  probably
• 3:40
  is
• 3:40
  the
• 3:40
  one
• 3:40
  that
• 3:41
  really
• 3:41
  rooted
• 3:42
  my
• 3:42
  teenage
• 3:43
  into
• 3:43
  adult
• 3:44
  years
• 3:44
  into,
• 3:45
  like,
• 3:45
  I'm
• 3:46
  probably
• 3:46
  not
• 3:46
  letting
• 3:46
  this
• 3:46
  go
• 3:47
  anytime
• 3:47
  soon.
• 3:48
  And
• 3:48
  then
• 3:48
  what
• 3:49
  happened
• 3:49
  when
• 3:49
  you
• 3:49
  got
• 3:50
  Loki?
• 3:50
  I
• 3:50
  mean,
• 3:51
  how.
• 3:51
  You
• 3:51
  were
• 3:52
  in
• 3:52
  college?
• 3:53
  No.
• 3:53
  You
• 3:53
  were
• 3:53
  out
• 3:53
  of
• 3:53
  college?
• 3:53
  No,
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  was.
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  was
• 3:54
  out
• 3:54
  of
• 3:54
  college.
• 3:55
  When
• 3:55
  I
• 3:55
  got
• 3:55
  him,
• 3:56
  I
• 3:56
  was
• 3:56
  still
• 3:56
  showing,
• 3:57
  and
• 3:58
  I
• 3:58
  really
• 3:58
  needed
• 3:59
  some.
• 4:00
  Another
• 4:00
  horse
• 4:00
  to
• 4:01
  be
• 4:01
  more
• 4:01
  competitive.
• 4:02
  Kelso
• 4:03
  could
• 4:03
  hold
• 4:03
  his
• 4:03
  own,
• 4:04
  but
• 4:04
  he
• 4:04
  was
• 4:04
  a
• 4:04
  thoroughbred,
• 4:05
  and
• 4:05
  he
• 4:05
  jumped
• 4:06
  phenomenally.
• 4:07
  But
• 4:08
  he
• 4:08
  was
• 4:08
  a
• 4:08
  little
• 4:08
  bit
• 4:09
  typey
• 4:09
  that
• 4:09
  way,
• 4:10
  and
• 4:10
  so
• 4:11
  he
• 4:11
  could
• 4:11
  go
• 4:11
  in
• 4:12
  and
• 4:13
  help
• 4:13
  me
• 4:13
  lay
• 4:13
  down
• 4:13
  a
• 4:14
  decent
• 4:14
  trip,
• 4:14
  but
• 4:15
  he
• 4:15
  was
• 4:15
  never
• 4:15
  going
• 4:16
  to
• 4:16
  be
• 4:16
  the
• 4:17
  top
• 4:17
  against
• 4:17
  some
• 4:17
  of
• 4:18
  these,
• 4:18
  like,
• 4:18
  bigger
• 4:18
  typeier
• 4:19
  warmbloods.
• 4:20
  And
• 4:20
  so
• 4:20
  mom
• 4:21
  and
• 4:21
  I
• 4:21
  had
• 4:21
  a
• 4:21
  discussion,
• 4:22
  and
• 4:22
  she
• 4:22
  was
• 4:22
  like,
• 4:23
  you
• 4:23
  know,
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  think
• 4:24
  we
• 4:25
  should
• 4:25
  look
• 4:25
  for
• 4:26
  another
• 4:26
  horse.
• 4:26
  And
• 4:27
  I
• 4:27
  about
• 4:27
  fell
• 4:27
  out
• 4:28
  of
• 4:28
  my
• 4:28
  seat
• 4:28
  because
• 4:28
  I
• 4:29
  was
• 4:29
  like,
• 4:29
  wait,
• 4:30
  what
• 4:30
  do
• 4:30
  you
• 4:30
  mean,
• 4:31
  look
• 4:31
  for
• 4:31
  another?
• 4:32
  Like,
• 4:32
  really?
• 4:33
  Like,
• 4:33
  we're
• 4:33
  gonna
• 4:34
  do
• 4:34
  that?
• 4:34
  And
• 4:35
  so
• 4:35
  we
• 4:35
  did.
• 4:36
  And
• 4:36
  so
• 4:36
  it
• 4:36
  was
• 4:36
  the
• 4:37
  first
• 4:37
  time,
• 4:37
  I
• 4:37
  will
• 4:37
  say,
• 4:38
  like,
• 4:38
  it's.
• 4:38
  He's
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  highest
• 4:39
  quality
• 4:41
  horse
• 4:41
  I've
• 4:42
  ever
• 4:42
  owned,
• 4:43
  but
• 4:43
  he's
• 4:43
  also
• 4:44
  ridiculous
• 4:46
  and
• 4:46
  very
• 4:47
  nuanced
• 4:47
  little
• 4:48
  animal.
• 4:49
  I
• 4:49
  mean,
• 4:50
  like.
• 4:51
  And
• 4:51
  so,
• 4:51
  I
• 4:51
  mean,
• 4:52
  like,
• 4:52
  he.
• 4:52
  I
• 4:52
  mean,
• 4:53
  he
• 4:53
  took
• 4:53
  me
• 4:53
  to
• 4:53
  venues
• 4:54
  I
• 4:54
  dreamed
• 4:54
  of
• 4:55
  going
• 4:55
  to
• 4:55
  as
• 4:56
  a
• 4:56
  kid
• 4:56
  and
• 4:56
  being
• 4:57
  able
• 4:57
  to
• 4:57
  watch
• 4:57
  him
• 4:57
  compete
• 4:58
  or
• 4:58
  to
• 4:58
  compete
• 4:59
  with
• 4:59
  him
• 4:59
  myself.
• 5:00
  And
• 5:00
  so
• 5:01
  that
• 5:01
  he
• 5:02
  made
• 5:02
  a
• 5:02
  lot
• 5:02
  of
• 5:03
  my
• 5:04
  dreams
• 5:04
  and
• 5:04
  aspirations
• 5:05
  and
• 5:06
  places
• 5:06
  I
• 5:06
  wanted
• 5:07
  to
• 5:07
  go
• 5:07
  and
• 5:07
  see
• 5:08
  and
• 5:08
  be
• 5:08
  a
• 5:08
  part
• 5:08
  of.
• 5:09
  He
• 5:09
  made
• 5:09
  that
• 5:09
  come
• 5:09
  true
• 5:10
  for
• 5:10
  me,
• 5:11
  which
• 5:11
  is
• 5:11
  huge.
• 5:12
  Totally.
• 5:13
  Yeah.
• 5:13
  Yeah,
• 5:13
  I
• 5:13
  get
• 5:14
  that.
• 5:15
  So
• 5:15
  did
• 5:16
  you
• 5:16
  take
• 5:17
  ever
• 5:17
  any
• 5:18
  breaks
• 5:18
  or
• 5:18
  you
• 5:19
  just
• 5:19
  kept
• 5:20
  going
• 5:20
  straight?
• 5:20
  When
• 5:21
  I'd
• 5:21
  come
• 5:21
  home
• 5:21
  from
• 5:21
  college,
• 5:22
  I
• 5:22
  would
• 5:22
  Say,
• 5:22
  like,
• 5:23
  Kelso
• 5:23
  and
• 5:23
  I
• 5:23
  took
• 5:23
  a
• 5:23
  break
• 5:24
  over
• 5:24
  summer.
• 5:24
  We
• 5:25
  were
• 5:25
  both
• 5:25
  on
• 5:25
  summer
• 5:25
  break.
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  would
• 5:26
  ride,
• 5:27
  but
• 5:27
  I
• 5:27
  wasn't
• 5:28
  showing.
• 5:28
  I
• 5:28
  might
• 5:29
  go
• 5:29
  here
• 5:29
  or
• 5:30
  there,
• 5:30
  but
• 5:30
  it
• 5:30
  was
• 5:30
  time
• 5:31
  off.
• 5:31
  But
• 5:31
  I
• 5:31
  mean,
• 5:31
  the
• 5:31
  biggest
• 5:32
  break
• 5:33
  that
• 5:33
  I
• 5:34
  have
• 5:34
  taken
• 5:34
  in
• 5:35
  my
• 5:35
  life
• 5:36
  ever
• 5:36
  was
• 5:37
  when
• 5:37
  I
• 5:37
  was
• 5:37
  pregnant
• 5:38
  with
• 5:38
  Teagan.
• 5:38
  I
• 5:39
  got
• 5:39
  to
• 5:39
  about
• 5:39
  five
• 5:40
  months.
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  would
• 5:41
  have
• 5:41
  kept
• 5:41
  riding
• 5:41
  if
• 5:41
  it
• 5:41
  was
• 5:42
  comfortable
• 5:42
  enough,
• 5:42
  but
• 5:42
  it
• 5:42
  was
• 5:43
  just
• 5:43
  uncomfortable
• 5:43
  and
• 5:43
  I
• 5:43
  didn't
• 5:44
  like
• 5:44
  it.
• 5:44
  So
• 5:44
  I
• 5:45
  took
• 5:45
  a
• 5:45
  break
• 5:45
  for
• 5:46
  a
• 5:46
  few
• 5:46
  months
• 5:46
  then.
• 5:47
  And
• 5:47
  then
• 5:48
  the
• 5:48
  most
• 5:48
  recent
• 5:48
  one
• 5:49
  and
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  longest
• 5:50
  one,
• 5:50
  the
• 5:50
  longest
• 5:51
  one
• 5:51
  I've
• 5:51
  had
• 5:51
  is
• 5:51
  when
• 5:52
  I
• 5:52
  was
• 5:52
  diagnosed
• 5:52
  with
• 5:52
  breast
• 5:53
  cancer
• 5:53
  because
• 5:54
  of
• 5:54
  the
• 5:54
  surgeries.
• 5:54
  And
• 5:55
  then
• 5:55
  straight
• 5:55
  after
• 5:55
  surgery
• 5:56
  were
• 5:57
  IVF
• 5:57
  procedures.
• 5:58
  And
• 5:58
  then
• 5:58
  straight
• 5:58
  after
• 5:58
  that
• 5:58
  was
• 5:59
  into
• 5:59
  chemo,
• 5:59
  and
• 6:00
  I
• 6:00
  would
• 6:00
  get
• 6:00
  down
• 6:01
  into
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  barn
• 6:01
  as
• 6:01
  much
• 6:01
  as
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  could,
• 6:02
  but
• 6:02
  there's
• 6:03
  just
• 6:03
  no
• 6:03
  way
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  could
• 6:03
  have
• 6:03
  ridden
• 6:04
  physically.
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  was
• 6:05
  unable
• 6:05
  after
• 6:05
  surgery.
• 6:06
  And
• 6:06
  then
• 6:07
  just,
• 6:07
  like,
• 6:07
  the
• 6:08
  havoc
• 6:08
  it
• 6:08
  wreaked
• 6:09
  on
• 6:09
  my
• 6:09
  body
• 6:09
  from
• 6:09
  chemo,
• 6:10
  I
• 6:10
  did
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  first
• 6:11
  time.
• 6:12
  After
• 6:12
  my
• 6:12
  first
• 6:12
  one,
• 6:12
  I
• 6:13
  went
• 6:13
  and
• 6:13
  I
• 6:13
  rode
• 6:13
  with
• 6:13
  you.
• 6:14
  But
• 6:14
  then
• 6:14
  I
• 6:15
  was
• 6:15
  just.
• 6:15
  It
• 6:15
  was.
• 6:16
  Just
• 6:16
  depleted
• 6:17
  me
• 6:17
  so
• 6:17
  bad.
• 6:18
  So,
• 6:18
  yeah,
• 6:19
  I
• 6:19
  mean,
• 6:19
  that
• 6:19
  was.
• 6:19
  I
• 6:20
  would
• 6:20
  say
• 6:20
  that's
• 6:20
  the
• 6:20
  biggest
• 6:21
  break
• 6:21
  that
• 6:21
  I've
• 6:21
  taken.
• 6:22
  But.
• 6:22
  But
• 6:22
  I
• 6:22
  think
• 6:22
  it's
• 6:23
  kind
• 6:23
  of
• 6:23
  interesting
• 6:24
  because
• 6:24
  people,
• 6:25
  you
• 6:25
  know,
• 6:25
  you
• 6:26
  take
• 6:26
  these
• 6:26
  breaks
• 6:26
  and
• 6:27
  you
• 6:27
  think,
• 6:27
  oh,
• 6:28
  okay,
• 6:29
  maybe
• 6:29
  I'll
• 6:29
  just
• 6:30
  not
• 6:30
  do
• 6:31
  this
• 6:31
  anymore
• 6:31
  for
• 6:32
  a
• 6:32
  while,
• 6:32
  or
• 6:32
  maybe
• 6:33
  I'll
• 6:33
  just
• 6:33
  focus
• 6:33
  on
• 6:34
  this.
• 6:34
  But
• 6:35
  I.
• 6:35
  There's
• 6:36
  something
• 6:36
  that
• 6:36
  just
• 6:36
  keeps
• 6:37
  calling
• 6:37
  you
• 6:37
  back,
• 6:38
  and
• 6:38
  I
• 6:38
  know
• 6:39
  you've
• 6:39
  done
• 6:39
  this.
• 6:40
  You
• 6:40
  just
• 6:40
  posted
• 6:41
  your
• 6:41
  video
• 6:42
  of
• 6:42
  you
• 6:44
  riding,
• 6:45
  and
• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
  gotta
• 6:46
  be
• 6:46
  there.
• 6:47
  So
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  couldn't
• 6:48
  wait
• 6:49
  to
• 6:49
  feel
• 6:49
  good
• 6:49
  enough
• 6:50
  to
• 6:50
  get
• 6:50
  back
• 6:50
  in
• 6:50
  the
• 6:50
  saddle.
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  was
• 6:51
  like,
• 6:51
  let's
• 6:52
  go.
• 6:52
  Some
• 6:53
  people
• 6:53
  are
• 6:53
  like,
• 6:53
  oh,
• 6:53
  yeah.
• 6:53
  I
• 6:54
  took
• 6:54
  a.
• 6:54
  Kind
• 6:55
  of
• 6:55
  like,
• 6:55
  you.
• 6:55
  Like,
• 6:55
  I
• 6:56
  was
• 6:57
  really
• 6:57
  immersed
• 6:57
  in
• 6:57
  my
• 6:57
  career
• 6:58
  and
• 6:58
  was
• 6:59
  raising
• 6:59
  a
• 6:59
  family
• 6:59
  and
• 7:00
  all
• 7:00
  this
• 7:00
  other
• 7:00
  stuff.
• 7:00
  So,
• 7:00
  like,
• 7:00
  you
• 7:01
  took
• 7:01
  a.
• 7:01
  You
• 7:01
  took
• 7:02
  a
• 7:02
  real
• 7:02
  break.
• 7:02
  Like,
• 7:02
  my
• 7:02
  horses
• 7:03
  are
• 7:03
  at
• 7:03
  home.
• 7:04
  And
• 7:05
  even
• 7:05
  when
• 7:05
  I
• 7:05
  was
• 7:06
  taking
• 7:06
  a,
• 7:06
  quote,
• 7:07
  break,
• 7:07
  my
• 7:08
  horses
• 7:08
  were
• 7:08
  still
• 7:08
  down
• 7:09
  there.
• 7:09
  I
• 7:09
  was
• 7:09
  still
• 7:09
  going
• 7:09
  down
• 7:09
  there
• 7:10
  to
• 7:10
  feed
• 7:10
  them.
• 7:10
  Is
• 7:11
  that
• 7:11
  really
• 7:11
  a
• 7:11
  break?
• 7:12
  So
• 7:12
  do
• 7:13
  you
• 7:13
  think
• 7:13
  that
• 7:13
  there
• 7:13
  is
• 7:13
  a
• 7:14
  moment
• 7:14
  that
• 7:14
  you
• 7:14
  realize
• 7:15
  that
• 7:15
  this
• 7:15
  is
• 7:16
  no
• 7:16
  longer
• 7:16
  just
• 7:17
  recreation,
• 7:18
  fun?
• 7:19
  This
• 7:19
  is
• 7:20
  a
• 7:20
  lifestyle?
• 7:21
  I
• 7:22
  mean,
• 7:22
  it's
• 7:22
  like,
• 7:22
  such
• 7:23
  a
• 7:23
  good
• 7:23
  question,
• 7:24
  and
• 7:24
  my
• 7:24
  husband
• 7:24
  would
• 7:25
  probably
• 7:25
  love
• 7:25
  to
• 7:25
  know
• 7:26
  the
• 7:26
  answer
• 7:26
  to
• 7:26
  that
• 7:29
  because
• 7:29
  he's
• 7:30
  like,
• 7:30
  what
• 7:30
  the
• 7:30
  hell
• 7:31
  is
• 7:32
  this?
• 7:32
  But
• 7:33
  I
• 7:33
  don't.
• 7:33
  I
• 7:33
  mean,
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  really
• 7:34
  don't
• 7:34
  know
• 7:34
  because
• 7:35
  I.
• 7:36
  I
• 7:37
  just,
• 7:37
  like,
• 7:37
  I've
• 7:37
  never
• 7:38
  thought
• 7:38
  about.
• 7:39
  Every
• 7:39
  time
• 7:39
  I've
• 7:40
  been,
• 7:40
  like,
• 7:40
  forced
• 7:41
  into
• 7:41
  a
• 7:41
  little
• 7:41
  break
• 7:42
  or
• 7:42
  something.
• 7:43
  I'm
• 7:43
  just
• 7:43
  sitting
• 7:43
  there
• 7:44
  going
• 7:44
  like,
• 7:44
  so,
• 7:44
  like,
• 7:44
  when
• 7:45
  can
• 7:45
  I
• 7:45
  go
• 7:45
  back
• 7:45
  and
• 7:46
  like,
• 7:46
  ride?
• 7:46
  And
• 7:46
  my
• 7:47
  biggest
• 7:47
  thing,
• 7:47
  I
• 7:47
  would
• 7:48
  say
• 7:48
  for,
• 7:49
  for
• 7:49
  me,
• 7:50
  it's
• 7:51
  not
• 7:51
  so
• 7:51
  much
• 7:52
  a
• 7:52
  break
• 7:52
  from
• 7:52
  the
• 7:53
  horses
• 7:53
  themselves,
• 7:53
  but
• 7:54
  maybe
• 7:54
  like
• 7:54
  a
• 7:54
  step
• 7:55
  back
• 7:55
  from
• 7:55
  competition.
• 7:56
  Like,
• 7:56
  right,
• 7:56
  like
• 7:56
  right.
• 7:56
  I
• 7:56
  haven't
• 7:57
  shown
• 7:57
  in
• 7:57
  a
• 7:57
  couple,
• 7:58
  like
• 7:58
  at
• 7:58
  this
• 7:58
  point,
• 7:59
  like
• 7:59
  two
• 7:59
  years.
• 8:00
  And
• 8:00
  so
• 8:00
  like,
• 8:00
  that
• 8:00
  would
• 8:01
  be
• 8:01
  like
• 8:01
  a
• 8:01
  break
• 8:01
  from
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  show
• 8:02
  scene
• 8:03
  on
• 8:03
  my
• 8:03
  own
• 8:03
  horse.
• 8:04
  I've
• 8:05
  thought
• 8:05
  about
• 8:05
  this
• 8:05
  a
• 8:05
  lot
• 8:06
  lately
• 8:06
  and
• 8:06
  it
• 8:07
  seems
• 8:07
  like
• 8:07
  golf
• 8:08
  finds
• 8:09
  a
• 8:09
  way
• 8:09
  to
• 8:09
  fit
• 8:10
  into
• 8:10
  your
• 8:10
  life.
• 8:10
  Tennis
• 8:11
  will
• 8:11
  fit
• 8:12
  into
• 8:12
  your
• 8:12
  life.
• 8:13
  Pickleball,
• 8:14
  people
• 8:14
  play
• 8:15
  pickleball.
• 8:15
  And
• 8:16
  that
• 8:16
  fits
• 8:16
  into
• 8:17
  your
• 8:17
  life.
• 8:18
  And
• 8:18
  most
• 8:19
  hobbies,
• 8:20
  people
• 8:20
  find
• 8:20
  a
• 8:21
  way
• 8:21
  to
• 8:21
  make
• 8:22
  it
• 8:22
  work
• 8:22
  however
• 8:23
  their
• 8:23
  life
• 8:23
  allows
• 8:24
  it
• 8:24
  to.
• 8:25
  But
• 8:25
  horses
• 8:26
  seem
• 8:26
  to
• 8:26
  do
• 8:26
  the
• 8:26
  opposite.
• 8:27
  They
• 8:28
  just
• 8:29
  become
• 8:29
  the
• 8:30
  thing
• 8:30
  that
• 8:30
  everything
• 8:31
  else
• 8:31
  revolves
• 8:32
  around.
• 8:33
  Your
• 8:33
  weekends,
• 8:34
  your
• 8:34
  vacations,
• 8:35
  money.
• 8:37
  Yeah,
• 8:38
  money,
• 8:39
  friendships,
• 8:40
  where
• 8:40
  we
• 8:40
  choose
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  live.
• 8:41
  And
• 8:41
  I
• 8:42
  don't
• 8:42
  know
• 8:42
  why
• 8:42
  that
• 8:43
  is,
• 8:43
  but
• 8:44
  here
• 8:44
  we're
• 8:45
  talking
• 8:45
  about
• 8:45
  an
• 8:45
  animal.
• 8:46
  Last
• 8:46
  summer
• 8:47
  when
• 8:47
  we
• 8:47
  went
• 8:47
  to
• 8:48
  Vermont,
• 8:48
  I
• 8:49
  finally
• 8:49
  got
• 8:49
  my
• 8:50
  husband
• 8:50
  to
• 8:50
  go
• 8:51
  with
• 8:51
  me
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  first
• 8:52
  time
• 8:53
  ever
• 8:54
  to
• 8:54
  a
• 8:54
  horse
• 8:55
  show.
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  mean,
• 8:55
  he'll
• 8:55
  come,
• 8:56
  but
• 8:56
  he
• 8:56
  brings
• 8:56
  his
• 8:56
  laptop
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  his
• 8:58
  New
• 8:59
  York
• 8:59
  Times
• 8:59
  and
• 9:00
  sits
• 9:00
  there
• 9:00
  and
• 9:00
  reads
• 9:01
  and
• 9:01
  pays
• 9:02
  no
• 9:02
  attention
• 9:02
  to
• 9:02
  me.
• 9:03
  Oh,
• 9:03
  you
• 9:03
  went.
• 9:03
  Oh,
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  didn't
• 9:04
  miss
• 9:04
  that.
• 9:05
  So
• 9:05
  he
• 9:06
  came
• 9:06
  to
• 9:06
  Vermont
• 9:07
  and
• 9:07
  he
• 9:07
  actually
• 9:07
  had
• 9:07
  a
• 9:07
  really
• 9:08
  good
• 9:08
  time.
• 9:08
  But
• 9:09
  that
• 9:09
  was
• 9:10
  a
• 9:11
  vacation
• 9:11
  and
• 9:12
  we've,.
• 9:12
  And
• 9:12
  a
• 9:12
  long
• 9:13
  time
• 9:13
  coming
• 9:13
  and
• 9:14
  we've.
• 9:14
  Never
• 9:14
  done
• 9:14
  that
• 9:15
  before.
• 9:15
  But
• 9:15
  anyway,
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  don't
• 9:16
  know
• 9:16
  why
• 9:17
  is
• 9:17
  this.
• 9:17
  I
• 9:18
  think
• 9:18
  so
• 9:18
  much
• 9:18
  of
• 9:19
  it
• 9:19
  is
• 9:19
  because
• 9:20
  it's
• 9:20
  a
• 9:20
  really,
• 9:21
  really
• 9:21
  time
• 9:21
  consuming
• 9:23
  sport.
• 9:23
  Because
• 9:23
  it's
• 9:24
  not
• 9:24
  just
• 9:25
  you
• 9:26
  or
• 9:27
  your
• 9:27
  tennis
• 9:27
  partner
• 9:28
  or
• 9:29
  who
• 9:29
  you're
• 9:30
  playing
• 9:31
  or
• 9:31
  whatever.
• 9:31
  Like,
• 9:32
  yeah,
• 9:32
  sports
• 9:33
  across
• 9:33
  the
• 9:33
  board
• 9:34
  are
• 9:34
  time
• 9:35
  consuming,
• 9:36
  hobbies
• 9:36
  are
• 9:37
  time
• 9:37
  consuming.
• 9:38
  But
• 9:38
  this
• 9:38
  involves
• 9:39
  like
• 9:39
  a
• 9:39
  living,
• 9:39
  breathing
• 9:40
  animal
• 9:41
  that
• 9:41
  requires
• 9:42
  care
• 9:43
  and
• 9:43
  attention
• 9:44
  from
• 9:45
  you
• 9:45
  and,
• 9:46
  or
• 9:47
  the
• 9:47
  person
• 9:48
  that's
• 9:48
  care,
• 9:48
  you
• 9:49
  know,
• 9:49
  where,
• 9:49
  where
• 9:49
  it
• 9:49
  lives,
• 9:49
  where
• 9:50
  it's
• 9:50
  being
• 9:50
  boarded.
• 9:51
  But
• 9:51
  I,
• 9:52
  I
• 9:52
  think
• 9:52
  it's
• 9:52
  like
• 9:53
  a
• 9:53
  partnership
• 9:53
  thing.
• 9:54
  Horse
• 9:54
  shows
• 9:54
  last
• 9:55
  a
• 9:55
  week,
• 9:55
  which
• 9:56
  is
• 9:56
  crazy.
• 9:56
  But
• 9:57
  do
• 9:57
  I
• 9:57
  think
• 9:57
  it
• 9:58
  should
• 9:58
  be
• 9:58
  allowed
• 9:58
  to
• 9:58
  dictate
• 9:59
  your
• 9:59
  life?
• 9:59
  Not
• 10:00
  necessarily.
• 10:00
  Like,
• 10:00
  I
• 10:01
  think
• 10:01
  it's
• 10:02
  really,
• 10:02
  really
• 10:02
  easy
• 10:03
  because
• 10:03
  there's
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  horse
• 10:04
  show
• 10:04
  every
• 10:04
  single
• 10:04
  week,
• 10:05
  no
• 10:05
  matter
• 10:06
  what.
• 10:06
  Right.
• 10:06
  There's
• 10:06
  always
• 10:07
  a
• 10:07
  competition
• 10:08
  that
• 10:08
  you
• 10:08
  can
• 10:08
  go
• 10:08
  to.
• 10:09
  And
• 10:09
  so
• 10:09
  I
• 10:10
  do
• 10:10
  think
• 10:11
  there
• 10:11
  is
• 10:11
  a
• 10:11
  little
• 10:12
  bit
• 10:12
  of
• 10:12
  a
• 10:12
  balance
• 10:13
  that
• 10:14
  should
• 10:14
  be
• 10:14
  required.
• 10:15
  There's
• 10:15
  always
• 10:15
  another
• 10:16
  horse
• 10:16
  show.
• 10:16
  So
• 10:17
  make
• 10:17
  sure
• 10:17
  that
• 10:17
  you
• 10:17
  can
• 10:18
  pay
• 10:18
  attention
• 10:19
  to
• 10:19
  family
• 10:19
  and,
• 10:20
  and
• 10:20
  other
• 10:20
  responsibilities.
• 10:21
  But
• 10:21
  I
• 10:22
  think
• 10:22
  really
• 10:22
  it's
• 10:23
  because,
• 10:23
  but
• 10:23
  you
• 10:24
  are
• 10:24
  pouring
• 10:24
  so
• 10:24
  much
• 10:25
  money
• 10:25
  into
• 10:25
  it.
• 10:26
  So
• 10:26
  you
• 10:27
  Are
• 10:27
  like,
• 10:28
  okay,
• 10:28
  well,
• 10:28
  I've
• 10:28
  spent
• 10:29
  all
• 10:29
  this
• 10:29
  money.
• 10:29
  Now
• 10:29
  let's
• 10:30
  go
• 10:30
  show
• 10:30
  off
• 10:30
  what
• 10:30
  we've
• 10:30
  learned.
• 10:31
  I
• 10:31
  guess
• 10:32
  there's
• 10:32
  golf
• 10:33
  tournaments
• 10:33
  and
• 10:34
  tennis
• 10:35
  tournaments
• 10:35
  and
• 10:35
  things
• 10:36
  like
• 10:36
  that.
• 10:36
  And
• 10:36
  some
• 10:37
  of
• 10:37
  those
• 10:37
  do
• 10:37
  go
• 10:37
  on
• 10:38
  for
• 10:38
  more
• 10:38
  than
• 10:38
  one
• 10:39
  day.
• 10:39
  Yeah,
• 10:40
  for
• 10:40
  sure.
• 10:40
  Why.
• 10:42
  Why
• 10:42
  is
• 10:42
  it
• 10:42
  that
• 10:42
  horses
• 10:43
  just
• 10:43
  seem
• 10:44
  so.
• 10:44
  So.
• 10:44
  So
• 10:45
  different
• 10:45
  from
• 10:46
  other
• 10:46
  hobbies?
• 10:47
  And
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  think,
• 10:47
  obviously,
• 10:48
  that
• 10:48
  leads
• 10:48
  us
• 10:48
  to
• 10:49
  our
• 10:49
  little
• 10:49
  insulated
• 10:50
  universe.
• 10:51
  I
• 10:51
  mean,
• 10:52
  we
• 10:52
  don't
• 10:52
  have
• 10:53
  a
• 10:53
  lot
• 10:53
  of.
• 10:54
  I
• 10:55
  know
• 10:56
  a
• 10:56
  lot
• 10:56
  of
• 10:56
  people
• 10:56
  in
• 10:56
  the
• 10:57
  sport
• 10:57
  wish
• 10:57
  that
• 10:57
  there
• 10:57
  were
• 10:58
  more
• 10:58
  spectators,
• 10:59
  and
• 10:59
  we
• 10:59
  don't
• 11:00
  have
• 11:00
  maybe
• 11:00
  as
• 11:00
  many
• 11:01
  as
• 11:01
  golf
• 11:01
  or
• 11:01
  tennis.
• 11:02
  But
• 11:02
  there
• 11:02
  is
• 11:02
  just
• 11:02
  something
• 11:03
  that's
• 11:04
  really
• 11:04
  weird.
• 11:04
  And
• 11:05
  people
• 11:05
  seem
• 11:05
  to
• 11:06
  organize
• 11:06
  their
• 11:06
  whole
• 11:07
  lives
• 11:08
  around
• 11:09
  horse
• 11:09
  shows
• 11:10
  or
• 11:10
  horses,
• 11:11
  whether
• 11:11
  it's
• 11:12
  shows
• 11:12
  or
• 11:13
  just
• 11:13
  riding
• 11:13
  in
• 11:14
  general.
• 11:14
  But
• 11:15
  what
• 11:16
  is
• 11:16
  it
• 11:16
  that
• 11:16
  creates
• 11:17
  that
• 11:17
  level
• 11:17
  of
• 11:17
  commitment?
• 11:18
  I
• 11:19
  think
• 11:19
  ultimately
• 11:20
  it's
• 11:21
  a
• 11:21
  lot
• 11:21
  of
• 11:21
  passion
• 11:22
  for,
• 11:24
  hopefully
• 11:24
  not
• 11:24
  just
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  sport
• 11:25
  itself,
• 11:26
  but
• 11:26
  for
• 11:26
  the
• 11:27
  animal,
• 11:27
  for
• 11:27
  the
• 11:28
  horse.
• 11:28
  And
• 11:28
  I
• 11:29
  think
• 11:29
  that
• 11:29
  comes
• 11:29
  down
• 11:30
  to
• 11:30
  partnership
• 11:31
  with
• 11:31
  the
• 11:32
  animal,
• 11:32
  because,
• 11:33
  at
• 11:33
  least
• 11:33
  from
• 11:33
  our
• 11:34
  perspective,
• 11:34
  I
• 11:35
  think
• 11:35
  we
• 11:35
  can
• 11:36
  agree,
• 11:36
  because
• 11:36
  both
• 11:36
  of
• 11:37
  us
• 11:37
  are
• 11:37
  amateurs,
• 11:38
  you
• 11:38
  don't
• 11:38
  necessarily
• 11:39
  have
• 11:39
  a
• 11:39
  string
• 11:39
  of
• 11:39
  horses.
• 11:40
  You're
• 11:40
  not
• 11:40
  riding
• 11:40
  10
• 11:40
  a
• 11:41
  day.
• 11:41
  You're
• 11:42
  not
• 11:42
  filtering
• 11:42
  through
• 11:42
  them.
• 11:43
  Your
• 11:43
  horse
• 11:44
  or
• 11:44
  your
• 11:45
  few
• 11:45
  horses
• 11:46
  are
• 11:47
  like
• 11:47
  your
• 11:47
  family
• 11:47
  members.
• 11:47
  They're
• 11:48
  like
• 11:48
  your
• 11:48
  dog
• 11:48
  or
• 11:48
  your
• 11:49
  cat.
• 11:49
  They
• 11:49
  just
• 11:49
  don't
• 11:49
  happen
• 11:50
  to
• 11:50
  live
• 11:50
  in
• 11:50
  your
• 11:50
  house.
• 11:51
  And
• 11:51
  so
• 11:52
  your
• 11:52
  dog.
• 11:53
  You
• 11:53
  see
• 11:53
  your
• 11:53
  dog
• 11:54
  every
• 11:54
  single
• 11:54
  day.
• 11:55
  When
• 11:55
  you
• 11:55
  get
• 11:55
  up
• 11:56
  to
• 11:56
  go
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  work,
• 11:57
  you
• 11:58
  have
• 11:58
  to
• 11:58
  feed
• 11:58
  your
• 11:58
  dog.
• 11:58
  When
• 11:59
  you
• 11:59
  come
• 11:59
  home
• 11:59
  from
• 11:59
  work,
• 11:59
  you
• 11:59
  have
• 12:00
  to
• 12:00
  feed
• 12:00
  your
• 12:00
  dog.
• 12:00
  You've
• 12:00
  got
• 12:00
  to
• 12:01
  play
• 12:01
  with
• 12:01
  your
• 12:01
  dog,
• 12:01
  you've
• 12:01
  got
• 12:01
  to
• 12:01
  do
• 12:02
  all
• 12:02
  these
• 12:02
  things.
• 12:03
  Well,
• 12:03
  it's
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  same
• 12:03
  exact
• 12:04
  thing,
• 12:04
  except
• 12:04
  we
• 12:04
  have
• 12:05
  this
• 12:05
  partnership
• 12:05
  where
• 12:06
  they
• 12:06
  carry
• 12:07
  us,
• 12:08
  and
• 12:08
  in
• 12:08
  our
• 12:09
  case,
• 12:09
  you
• 12:09
  know,
• 12:09
  carry
• 12:09
  us
• 12:10
  over
• 12:10
  jumps.
• 12:10
  We
• 12:10
  have
• 12:10
  this,
• 12:11
  like,
• 12:11
  unspoken
• 12:12
  connection
• 12:13
  with
• 12:13
  them.
• 12:13
  And
• 12:14
  I
• 12:14
  think
• 12:14
  that
• 12:14
  that's.
• 12:15
  It's.
• 12:15
  It's
• 12:16
  a
• 12:16
  passion
• 12:16
  and
• 12:16
  it's
• 12:17
  a
• 12:17
  partnership,
• 12:17
  and
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  think
• 12:18
  that
• 12:18
  that's
• 12:18
  why
• 12:18
  it
• 12:18
  becomes
• 12:19
  so
• 12:19
  consuming
• 12:20
  and
• 12:20
  also
• 12:22
  different
• 12:22
  than.
• 12:23
  Say
• 12:23
  again,
• 12:23
  golft.
• 12:24
  In
• 12:24
  this
• 12:24
  pickleball,
• 12:25
  you
• 12:25
  have
• 12:26
  this
• 12:26
  community.
• 12:27
  Yeah.
• 12:27
  Everyone
• 12:28
  talks
• 12:28
  about
• 12:29
  their
• 12:29
  barn
• 12:29
  family.
• 12:30
  Everybody
• 12:31
  talks
• 12:31
  about
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  relationships
• 12:33
  that
• 12:33
  they
• 12:33
  built
• 12:34
  at
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  barn.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:35
  that,
• 12:36
  to
• 12:36
  me,
• 12:36
  is
• 12:37
  very
• 12:37
  different
• 12:37
  than
• 12:38
  other
• 12:38
  sports.
• 12:39
  It's.
• 12:40
  Yeah,
• 12:41
  it
• 12:41
  is.
• 12:41
  But
• 12:41
  I
• 12:42
  also
• 12:42
  think
• 12:42
  that's
• 12:42
  because
• 12:44
  they're
• 12:45
  doing
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  same
• 12:45
  thing
• 12:46
  that
• 12:48
  you
• 12:48
  are,
• 12:48
  which
• 12:49
  is
• 12:49
  spending
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  better
• 12:50
  portion
• 12:51
  of
• 12:51
  their
• 12:51
  day
• 12:52
  on
• 12:52
  the
• 12:53
  weekends
• 12:54
  and
• 12:54
  several
• 12:55
  hours
• 12:55
  in
• 12:56
  the
• 12:56
  evenings
• 12:56
  or
• 12:56
  afternoons
• 12:57
  during
• 12:57
  the
• 12:57
  week
• 12:58
  with
• 12:58
  this
• 12:58
  shared
• 12:59
  love
• 12:59
  and
• 12:59
  passion
• 13:00
  for
• 13:00
  horses
• 13:01
  and
• 13:01
  for
• 13:01
  competing.
• 13:02
  And
• 13:03
  so
• 13:03
  when
• 13:03
  you're
• 13:04
  pulled
• 13:04
  away
• 13:04
  from
• 13:05
  your
• 13:05
  home
• 13:05
  and
• 13:06
  real
• 13:06
  life,
• 13:06
  Responsibilities.
• 13:08
  And
• 13:09
  you
• 13:09
  plop
• 13:09
  yourself
• 13:10
  at
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  barn.
• 13:11
  Those
• 13:11
  are
• 13:11
  people
• 13:11
  that
• 13:12
  you're
• 13:12
  with
• 13:12
  all
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  time
• 13:13
  because
• 13:14
  you're
• 13:14
  there
• 13:14
  for
• 13:14
  hours
• 13:15
  and
• 13:15
  hours
• 13:15
  and
• 13:15
  hours.
• 13:16
  And
• 13:16
  I
• 13:16
  think
• 13:17
  we're
• 13:17
  really
• 13:17
  lucky.
• 13:17
  I
• 13:17
  mean,
• 13:17
  that's
• 13:18
  how
• 13:18
  you
• 13:18
  and
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  became
• 13:18
  friends.
• 13:19
  That's
• 13:19
  true.
• 13:20
  No,
• 13:20
  I
• 13:21
  wouldn't
• 13:21
  trade
• 13:21
  it
• 13:22
  for
• 13:22
  anything.
• 13:22
  And
• 13:23
  it's
• 13:23
  just
• 13:24
  so
• 13:24
  interesting
• 13:24
  to
• 13:24
  think
• 13:25
  about
• 13:25
  because
• 13:25
  it's
• 13:26
  different.
• 13:27
  So,
• 13:27
  so
• 13:27
  different
• 13:27
  than.
• 13:28
  Hard
• 13:29
  to
• 13:30
  kind
• 13:30
  of
• 13:30
  identify
• 13:31
  these
• 13:31
  things
• 13:31
  and
• 13:32
  relate
• 13:33
  them
• 13:33
  to
• 13:33
  people
• 13:34
  who
• 13:34
  don't
• 13:35
  understand.
• 13:35
  Oh,
• 13:36
  yeah.
• 13:36
  And
• 13:37
  it
• 13:38
  just
• 13:38
  seems
• 13:38
  like
• 13:39
  horse
• 13:39
  people
• 13:40
  will
• 13:40
  build
• 13:41
  their
• 13:41
  entire
• 13:42
  lifestyle
• 13:43
  around
• 13:44
  riding,
• 13:45
  showing,
• 13:46
  going
• 13:47
  to
• 13:47
  the
• 13:47
  barn.
• 13:48
  And
• 13:48
  you
• 13:48
  see
• 13:48
  all
• 13:48
  those
• 13:49
  posts
• 13:49
  where
• 13:50
  people
• 13:51
  do
• 13:51
  the
• 13:51
  funny
• 13:51
  little
• 13:51
  Facebook
• 13:52
  post
• 13:52
  saying,
• 13:53
  well,
• 13:53
  I
• 13:53
  told
• 13:53
  my
• 13:53
  husband
• 13:54
  I'd
• 13:54
  be
• 13:54
  back
• 13:54
  soon,
• 13:55
  and
• 13:55
  I
• 13:55
  came
• 13:56
  back
• 13:56
  two
• 13:56
  days
• 13:56
  later,
• 13:57
  you
• 13:57
  know,
• 13:57
  or
• 13:58
  whatever.
• 14:00
  That
• 14:00
  was
• 14:00
  in
• 14:00
  my
• 14:01
  wedding
• 14:01
  vows,
• 14:01
  actually.
• 14:02
  It
• 14:02
  was,
• 14:03
  yes.
• 14:03
  What
• 14:03
  did
• 14:04
  you.
• 14:04
  I
• 14:04
  said,
• 14:04
  I
• 14:04
  promise
• 14:05
  to
• 14:05
  always.
• 14:06
  What
• 14:06
  did
• 14:06
  I
• 14:06
  say?
• 14:06
  I
• 14:07
  promised
• 14:07
  to
• 14:08
  never
• 14:08
  be
• 14:09
  home
• 14:09
  on
• 14:09
  time
• 14:09
  from
• 14:10
  the
• 14:10
  barn.
• 14:10
  And
• 14:11
  you
• 14:11
  can
• 14:11
  automatically
• 14:12
  expect
• 14:12
  it's
• 14:13
  two
• 14:13
  hours
• 14:13
  later
• 14:14
  than
• 14:14
  the
• 14:15
  time
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  originally
• 14:16
  told
• 14:16
  you.
• 14:17
  I
• 14:17
  think
• 14:17
  something
• 14:17
  along
• 14:18
  those
• 14:18
  lines.
• 14:18
  But,
• 14:18
  yeah,
• 14:18
  they
• 14:19
  were
• 14:19
  in
• 14:19
  my
• 14:19
  wedding
• 14:19
  vows.
• 14:19
  I
• 14:20
  was
• 14:20
  like,
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  promise
• 14:20
  I'll
• 14:20
  always
• 14:21
  screw
• 14:21
  that
• 14:21
  up.
• 14:23
  Well,
• 14:23
  that
• 14:23
  was
• 14:23
  probably.
• 14:24
  I
• 14:24
  mean,
• 14:25
  honesty
• 14:25
  is
• 14:25
  key.
• 14:26
  There
• 14:27
  you
• 14:27
  go.
• 14:27
  Transparency.
• 14:29
  Exactly.
• 14:31
  I
• 14:31
  guess
• 14:31
  when
• 14:32
  I
• 14:32
  step
• 14:32
  back
• 14:32
  and
• 14:32
  look
• 14:32
  at
• 14:33
  all
• 14:33
  of
• 14:33
  this,
• 14:34
  I
• 14:34
  think
• 14:34
  horse
• 14:35
  people
• 14:35
  don't
• 14:36
  just
• 14:36
  ride.
• 14:37
  You
• 14:37
  know,
• 14:37
  in
• 14:37
  the
• 14:38
  end
• 14:38
  of
• 14:38
  the
• 14:38
  day.
• 14:38
  They
• 14:38
  either.
• 14:39
  They
• 14:39
  teach,
• 14:39
  they
• 14:40
  train,
• 14:40
  they
• 14:40
  judge,
• 14:41
  they.
• 14:42
  Some
• 14:43
  take
• 14:43
  pictures,
• 14:44
  they
• 14:45
  learn
• 14:45
  to
• 14:45
  braid.
• 14:46
  Here
• 14:47
  we
• 14:47
  are
• 14:47
  doing
• 14:47
  a
• 14:47
  podcast.
• 14:49
  I
• 14:49
  mean,
• 14:49
  hey,
• 14:50
  hey,
• 14:50
  hey.
• 14:51
  And
• 14:51
  some
• 14:51
  people
• 14:52
  say
• 14:53
  start
• 14:53
  designing
• 14:53
  products
• 14:54
  or
• 14:56
  selling
• 14:57
  insurance
• 14:57
  or
• 14:58
  volunteering
• 14:59
  or
• 15:00
  serving
• 15:01
  on
• 15:01
  committees.
• 15:02
  Was
• 15:02
  at
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  barn
• 15:03
  today,
• 15:03
  and
• 15:04
  these
• 15:05
  two
• 15:05
  ladies,
• 15:05
  who
• 15:06
  are
• 15:06
  incredible,
• 15:06
  that
• 15:07
  just
• 15:07
  ran
• 15:07
  deep
• 15:07
  run
• 15:09
  last
• 15:09
  week,
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  they
• 15:10
  do
• 15:10
  it
• 15:10
  every
• 15:10
  year,
• 15:10
  and
• 15:10
  they
• 15:10
  do
• 15:11
  the
• 15:11
  most
• 15:11
  incredible
• 15:12
  job.
• 15:12
  They
• 15:12
  both,
• 15:13
  oh,
• 15:13
  they're
• 15:13
  the
• 15:13
  best.
• 15:13
  Both
• 15:14
  said,
• 15:15
  we're
• 15:15
  just
• 15:16
  flat
• 15:16
  out
• 15:17
  exhausted
• 15:18
  because
• 15:19
  five
• 15:19
  days
• 15:19
  of
• 15:20
  the
• 15:21
  culmination
• 15:21
  of
• 15:21
  all
• 15:22
  the
• 15:22
  hard
• 15:22
  work,
• 15:22
  and
• 15:23
  it's
• 15:23
  a
• 15:24
  lot.
• 15:24
  And
• 15:25
  trying
• 15:25
  to
• 15:25
  make
• 15:25
  everybody
• 15:26
  happy.
• 15:27
  So
• 15:28
  somewhere
• 15:28
  along
• 15:28
  the
• 15:29
  way,
• 15:29
  I
• 15:29
  think
• 15:29
  it
• 15:29
  just
• 15:29
  gets
• 15:30
  so
• 15:30
  much
• 15:30
  bigger
• 15:31
  than
• 15:31
  just
• 15:32
  riding.
• 15:32
  And
• 15:33
  so
• 15:33
  maybe
• 15:34
  people
• 15:34
  are
• 15:35
  correct.
• 15:36
  Horses,
• 15:37
  maybe
• 15:37
  they
• 15:37
  start
• 15:38
  out
• 15:38
  as
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
  hobby,
• 15:39
  but
• 15:39
  I
• 15:40
  think
• 15:40
  for
• 15:40
  many
• 15:40
  of
• 15:41
  us,
• 15:41
  they
• 15:41
  don't
• 15:41
  stay
• 15:42
  there
• 15:42
  very
• 15:42
  long.
• 15:43
  And
• 15:44
  I
• 15:45
  sometimes
• 15:45
  wonder,
• 15:46
  do
• 15:46
  people.
• 15:46
  Do
• 15:46
  horse
• 15:47
  people
• 15:47
  choose
• 15:47
  this
• 15:48
  life
• 15:48
  or
• 15:49
  does
• 15:49
  it
• 15:49
  slowly
• 15:50
  choose
• 15:50
  them?
• 15:51
  And
• 15:52
  I
• 15:53
  don't
• 15:53
  know.
• 15:53
  I
• 15:54
  think
• 15:55
  about.
• 15:55
  I
• 15:56
  see
• 15:56
  so
• 15:56
  many
• 15:57
  people,
• 15:57
  especially
• 15:58
  now
• 15:58
  with
• 15:58
  me,
• 15:59
  doing
• 15:59
  these
• 16:00
  kind
• 16:00
  of
• 16:00
  social
• 16:00
  media
• 16:01
  things
• 16:01
  about
• 16:01
  being
• 16:02
  a
• 16:02
  quote
• 16:03
  rewriter.
• 16:04
  I
• 16:04
  see
• 16:04
  a
• 16:05
  lot
• 16:05
  of
• 16:05
  people
• 16:05
  that
• 16:07
  leave,
• 16:08
  but
• 16:08
  they
• 16:08
  desperately
• 16:09
  want
• 16:09
  to
• 16:09
  come
• 16:10
  back.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:11
  a
• 16:12
  lot
• 16:12
  of
• 16:12
  them
• 16:13
  Do
• 16:13
  I
• 16:14
  just.
• 16:14
  Actually
• 16:15
  just
• 16:15
  saw
• 16:16
  today
• 16:17
  at
• 16:17
  the
• 16:18
  USHA
• 16:19
  Amateur
• 16:19
  finals,
• 16:20
  a
• 16:20
  man
• 16:21
  who
• 16:21
  won
• 16:23
  the
• 16:23
  older
• 16:24
  33
• 16:25
  section.
• 16:26
  I
• 16:26
  think
• 16:27
  he
• 16:28
  was
• 16:28
  involved
• 16:29
  in
• 16:29
  horses,
• 16:29
  I
• 16:29
  believe,
• 16:29
  when
• 16:30
  he
• 16:30
  was
• 16:30
  younger.
• 16:30
  I
• 16:30
  might
• 16:31
  have
• 16:31
  some
• 16:31
  of
• 16:31
  the
• 16:31
  details
• 16:31
  of
• 16:32
  this
• 16:32
  mixed
• 16:32
  up,
• 16:32
  but
• 16:32
  he
• 16:32
  did
• 16:33
  an
• 16:33
  interview
• 16:33
  and
• 16:34
  then
• 16:34
  took
• 16:35
  a
• 16:35
  really
• 16:35
  long
• 16:36
  break.
• 16:37
  And
• 16:37
  the
• 16:37
  horse
• 16:37
  that
• 16:37
  he
• 16:38
  won
• 16:38
  with
• 16:38
  on
• 16:39
  the
• 16:39
  3
• 16:39
  3,
• 16:41
  he
• 16:41
  actually
• 16:41
  bought
• 16:42
  to
• 16:42
  start
• 16:42
  back
• 16:43
  riding
• 16:44
  doing
• 16:44
  the
• 16:44
  2
• 16:44
  6.
• 16:44
  So
• 16:45
  this
• 16:45
  horse
• 16:45
  carried
• 16:45
  him
• 16:45
  from
• 16:46
  restarting
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  26
• 16:47
  all
• 16:47
  the
• 16:47
  way
• 16:47
  up
• 16:47
  to
• 16:47
  the
• 16:47
  3
• 16:48
  3,
• 16:48
  which
• 16:48
  is
• 16:48
  really
• 16:48
  cool.
• 16:49
  And
• 16:49
  now
• 16:49
  he
• 16:49
  has,
• 16:49
  like,
• 16:49
  several
• 16:50
  horses.
• 16:50
  I
• 16:50
  was
• 16:50
  like,
• 16:50
  oh,
• 16:51
  okay.
• 16:51
  You
• 16:51
  probably
• 16:52
  know
• 16:52
  him
• 16:53
  because
• 16:53
  he's
• 16:53
  from
• 16:53
  Atlanta,
• 16:54
  but
• 16:55
  he
• 16:55
  was
• 16:55
  a
• 16:55
  vet
• 16:56
  and
• 16:56
  he.
• 16:56
  He
• 16:56
  did
• 16:57
  it
• 16:57
  with
• 16:57
  the
• 16:57
  intent
• 16:57
  of
• 16:58
  becoming
• 16:58
  a
• 16:58
  horse
• 16:59
  vet.
• 16:59
  So
• 16:59
  he
• 17:00
  wanted
• 17:00
  to
• 17:00
  have
• 17:00
  his
• 17:00
  profession
• 17:01
  and
• 17:01
  his
• 17:02
  hobby
• 17:02
  connect.
• 17:03
  He
• 17:03
  said
• 17:03
  he
• 17:03
  didn't
• 17:03
  like
• 17:04
  that.
• 17:04
  So
• 17:04
  he
• 17:04
  was
• 17:04
  a
• 17:05
  small
• 17:05
  animal
• 17:05
  vet
• 17:05
  in
• 17:05
  Atlanta,
• 17:06
  but
• 17:06
  now
• 17:06
  he's
• 17:06
  like,
• 17:06
  semi
• 17:07
  retired
• 17:07
  and
• 17:07
  just
• 17:08
  riding.
• 17:08
  I
• 17:08
  was
• 17:09
  like,
• 17:09
  oh,
• 17:09
  look,
• 17:09
  he
• 17:09
  came
• 17:10
  right
• 17:10
  back.
• 17:10
  It's
• 17:10
  exactly
• 17:11
  what
• 17:11
  we're
• 17:11
  talking
• 17:12
  about.
• 17:12
  And
• 17:12
  it's
• 17:13
  like.
• 17:14
  I
• 17:14
  mean,
• 17:14
  can
• 17:14
  you
• 17:14
  imagine
• 17:15
  your
• 17:15
  life
• 17:15
  without
• 17:16
  horses
• 17:16
  now?
• 17:17
  I
• 17:17
  can't.
• 17:18
  No,
• 17:18
  no.
• 17:19
  And
• 17:19
  even
• 17:19
  in
• 17:19
  the
• 17:19
  period
• 17:20
  of
• 17:20
  time
• 17:20
  just
• 17:21
  now,
• 17:21
  I
• 17:21
  mean,
• 17:21
  like,
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  only
• 17:22
  thing
• 17:22
  I
• 17:22
  could
• 17:22
  think
• 17:22
  of
• 17:23
  is.
• 17:23
  And
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  mean,
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  even,
• 17:25
  like,
• 17:25
  took
• 17:25
  it
• 17:25
  way,
• 17:25
  way,
• 17:26
  way
• 17:26
  down
• 17:26
  because
• 17:26
  I
• 17:27
  was
• 17:27
  just
• 17:27
  like,
• 17:27
  you
• 17:27
  just
• 17:27
  gotta
• 17:28
  get
• 17:28
  me
• 17:28
  in
• 17:28
  the
• 17:28
  barn.
• 17:29
  You
• 17:29
  just
• 17:29
  gotta
• 17:29
  get
• 17:29
  me
• 17:29
  in
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  barn
• 17:30
  or
• 17:30
  I'm
• 17:30
  gonna
• 17:30
  go
• 17:31
  crazy.
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  know
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  can't
• 17:32
  get
• 17:32
  on
• 17:33
  right
• 17:33
  now,
• 17:33
  but
• 17:33
  I
• 17:33
  gotta
• 17:34
  get
• 17:34
  in
• 17:34
  the
• 17:34
  barn.
• 17:35
  It
• 17:35
  was
• 17:35
  like
• 17:35
  somebody
• 17:35
  could
• 17:35
  have
• 17:36
  brought
• 17:36
  a
• 17:37
  mini
• 17:37
  up
• 17:37
  to
• 17:37
  the
• 17:37
  stairs,
• 17:38
  the
• 17:38
  front
• 17:39
  of
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  house.
• 17:39
  I
• 17:39
  wouldn't
• 17:39
  have
• 17:39
  cared.
• 17:42
  So
• 17:42
  I
• 17:42
  guess
• 17:42
  you
• 17:43
  could
• 17:43
  say
• 17:43
  people
• 17:43
  can
• 17:44
  call
• 17:44
  horses
• 17:44
  a
• 17:45
  hobby
• 17:45
  if
• 17:45
  they
• 17:45
  want
• 17:46
  to,
• 17:46
  but
• 17:46
  they're.
• 17:47
  And
• 17:47
  they're
• 17:47
  not
• 17:47
  entirely
• 17:48
  wrong.
• 17:49
  But
• 17:49
  most
• 17:50
  of
• 17:50
  us
• 17:50
  probably
• 17:50
  started
• 17:51
  there.
• 17:51
  And
• 17:51
  then
• 17:52
  somewhere
• 17:52
  along
• 17:52
  the
• 17:53
  way,
• 17:53
  for
• 17:53
  a
• 17:53
  lot
• 17:53
  of
• 17:54
  us,
• 17:54
  it
• 17:55
  became
• 17:55
  something
• 17:56
  completely
• 17:57
  different.
• 17:59
  Not
• 17:59
  because
• 17:59
  anyone
• 18:00
  told
• 18:00
  us
• 18:00
  that
• 18:00
  it
• 18:01
  should,
• 18:01
  but
• 18:01
  because
• 18:02
  one
• 18:02
  day
• 18:02
  we
• 18:02
  realized
• 18:03
  that
• 18:03
  all
• 18:03
  of
• 18:04
  a
• 18:04
  sudden
• 18:04
  we
• 18:04
  built
• 18:04
  our
• 18:05
  whole
• 18:05
  life
• 18:07
  that.
• 18:08
  And
• 18:08
  maybe
• 18:09
  that's
• 18:09
  the
• 18:09
  real
• 18:09
  difference.
• 18:10
  A
• 18:10
  hobby
• 18:11
  fits
• 18:11
  into
• 18:11
  your
• 18:11
  life,
• 18:12
  but
• 18:12
  horses
• 18:13
  have
• 18:13
  a
• 18:14
  funny
• 18:14
  way
• 18:14
  of
• 18:14
  becoming
• 18:15
  part
• 18:15
  of
• 18:16
  who
• 18:16
  we
• 18:16
  are.
• 18:18
  Until
• 18:18
  next
• 18:19
  time,
• 18:20
  let's
• 18:21
  ride.