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Peter and the Wolf | Peter Stumpp · Beheaded

• 0:04
  SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to Beheaded.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to season five, episode three.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Megan Moore.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm Elizabeth Black.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: Got a spooky episode we do for I guess I was gonna say Noir November.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_02: For November.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_02: Whoa.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's almost December.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_02: But like like midnight tonight is December.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: Which by the time we release this, it's very much December.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll call it dark December.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_02: How about that?
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_01: I like you know, ever every season we can somehow turn into a spooky, aesthetically themed.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: I think so.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: I struggle, and I've mentioned this on the podcast.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_02: I hate the beginning of the year, like I hate quarter one, right?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_02: I do too.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_02: I think all those months are super boring.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: I hate March.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry if you've been born in March.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's my least favorite month.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: You have the worst birthday.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: Because in Arizona is probably the best weather of the entire year.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: Just something about March is like ugh.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: I've I've mentioned this before.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you got the new year and you're excited about January.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: But then January keeps going and you're like, oh, we're here now.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_02: And then it's like Valentine's Day and St.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_02: Patty's Day, and it's March and it's rainy and it's boring.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like things don't get exciting until like May.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: May you're like, okay.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: Cinco de Mayo, and then you're like ridiculous season.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: Memorial Day.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: Margaritas.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_02: And then it's summer, and summer's awesome, and then fall's awesome, and then winter's fun, because all the holidays, and then you get back to these few shitty months.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: We're not even there yet, so I shouldn't even be there.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: We should not be completely we're in the thick of it.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: Holidays are upon us.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: Good time.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: This is a great time.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: We just finished Thanksgiving.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: We are heading into the holiday season.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: How was your Thanksgiving?
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was really fun.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: Hung out with some um it's it's kind of a funny story, like old family friends, but also newly readquainted.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my childhood friends that like I'm now like you know, from California, and now she and her husband live down the street, and it's you know, it's been good.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: And and her, yeah, her dad came and um got to spend the holiday with us, and yeah, it was fun.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's fabulous.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: Did you cook anything?
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: I was in charge of the charcuterie board, which as we know we excel at.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: My specialty.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's funny because I've never considered myself a good charcuterie maker, but I think because of our podcast, I've gotten like so much better.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: And now I'm the designated, like, anytime I'm invited to a party or like host something, everyone's like, Well, you're the charcuterie person.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I am like when when did I do that?
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, in all honesty, Trader Joe's is the charcuterie.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: Which I I like in hindsight, I realized we pitched Trader Joe's maybe like four to five times a season.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: More than our actual advertisers, which I kind of forgot about.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: We need to incorporate them again.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: I forgot about it.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: We're so sorry.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna put you back in the show, you know, at some point.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, no, it was good.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: How how was your Thanksgiving?
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: It was good.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so Robbie and I just went over to my my dad's house.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_02: So my dad's like not a native to Arizona person, but he's going to be living here when he retires.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_02: So he's getting more acclimated and spending more time here.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we made carrot pudding and scalloped potatoes, which are really good and really cheesy.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: It was more of like a casserole, I guess.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I guess it's normally a casserole.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: But we put like breadcrumbs on the top and burnt it a little bit.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: It was very, ugh, so tasty.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_02: Sounds good.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, we were there, we got the dog, it was a whole good little shindig.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_02: And it was I like it because it was just the right amount of people.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like I remember as a kid, like it just being crazy.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_02: I like have a million cousins and family, and you always have to be a million places.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_02: And like I always just thought that's how holidays were.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: And now as an adult, I'm like, oh, you don't have to do that every time.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you can kind of choose who you spend your time with, and it's nice.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: I like the the freedom of just existing, I suppose.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's our that's our whole that's our mindset for the holiday season season.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_01: Just be grateful.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I just want to exist.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_02: And like do it, do what you do, you know?
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like, don't be stressed, just like go with the flow.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: Do it.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_02: Those of you that have to go to big family gatherings, like find your sweet spot.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe the first like 10 minutes, you're super social, and then you get an excuse to like be off in a corner the rest of the time or something.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: This season just brings out like the angriest of people, and like I know I've talked about this.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: I work in customer support, and it is always it's so ironic.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's during the holiday season, people are the meanest.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, they're so mean, they're so nasty, and I have to listen to these call recordings and also like actually talk to the people.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_01: And right, my my my request for everybody if you ever need to talk to anyone in customer service, be nice, it doesn't matter where they're located or how like high up in the company they are.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like, Megan shouldn't be talking to customers, but she still is.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you know, everybody wants to talk to somebody higher every single time, and I'm just like, I'm it.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like you hit you hit level 10, you hit the boss level.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations, Karen.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: You hit boss level.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_02: I used to always say that in like my first job I had on the phone.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I'd be like, they'd be like, where does the buck stop?
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, stop passing the buck.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, no, buck stops here.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm where the buck stops.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is it.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I'm also one of those fools because Black Friday.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not I'm not crazy, I'm not rude.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: But our friend Lisa and I, we did go to the mall on Black Friday, which is like it was it was um, that was very adventurous.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: And in my mind, I think you needed to blow off some steam.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_02: I did.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_02: And naturally, you went to a mall on a Friday night on Black Fight to one of my favorite places on this planet.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's the crappiest place in the world.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_02: We're not even gonna mention the name, I think.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_02: Why not?
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_02: Because we don't want to offend anybody who might, you know, have an affiliation with that place, but it's a big crappy mall in rhymes with Schmandler.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I was talking about the restaurant.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you could talk about the restaurant.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_02: Give it away.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: Just go ahead.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_02: What's your favorite restaurant in the whole world, Megan?
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: The Rainforest Cafe.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: I have loved this place since I was about 10 years old.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: You just go in.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: I think most people like it as 10-year-olds.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like just the nostalgia and like the gorillas pounding, the elephants, the rainstorm that comes.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's a thunderstorm every 20 minutes.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: We timed it.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: And they have a great appetizer sampler.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing more fun than wearing stupid Christmas shirts and getting drunk at the bar at the Rainforest Cafe while eating an appetizer sampler.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking mozzarella sticks, potato skins.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I've talked about before, if I were to have like a death meal like the day before my execution, it would be an appetizer sampler.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like bar food appetizers?
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: Nachos.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: We did that.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: And did you sit at the bar the whole time, or did you request a table where you could be nearer to the gorillas?
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: What are the things?
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: We took a little walk to the bathroom and like did a little tour.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's nice.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, you like check out the gift shop.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's a hole to do.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but after that, we did, I was like gun-ho to get my ears pierced.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: I my like my second holes.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_02: This is funny to me because Megan asked me, like, in all honesty, probably the last time we got together for podcasting, and she was like, hey, like, do you want to come with me?
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: Because I might go get my ears double pierced.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, what?
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, you already have like pierced ears.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_02: She's like, no, like the double piercing.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's a popular thing.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people do that.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_02: I think that was popular, like Y2K, like elder millennial, like no, it's coming back.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it is.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_02: If you're a Gen Z person, let us know because I don't think it's back.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's back.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: I personally like it.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: I have like some temp ones right now just to feel it.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: I thought she got them pierced.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: She, in fact, doesn't it?
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to get it.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: I tried.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: I tried to get them pierced.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: So tell us what happened.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: Embarrassingly enough, after well, we bought first of all like the light up souvenir cups from Rainforest Cafe, and you know, those can get you in trouble because they fill it.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: Those are probably like$25.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't actually they weren't that expensive.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like how much were they?
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but we shared an appetizer and I had gosh, at least two drinks, if not three.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say two for you is very served making and the souvenir cup, and I paid 40 bucks.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: Damn, that's a deal.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's a deal.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: It was also Black Friday.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go there this Friday.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, okay, I'm gonna go get my ears pierced.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: And first of all, um, great idea.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't finish all the chicken fingers in our appetizer, so I stuffed them in my souvenir cup and put them in my purse.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: Clean cup.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: They they did clean out the cup, and then I got to and so I was walking around the mall smelling like chicken fingers, and that was probably the first mistake.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: So she had chicken tendy's cup walking around.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_02: Said mall.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: And said mall and Schmanler.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: Schmanler, Arizona.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: And then I went to Claire's and I picked out the earrings I wanted.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: It was$56.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: To use your ears pierced?
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: Damn.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: To put a hole in your ear.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I realized you're all laughing.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: Claire's is where 12-year-old girls go and younger.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: I thought they'd have the best deal.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I like that they do the gun, which everyone says you're gonna get them crooked and infected.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: And that's probably fine.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: But is it what's uh I uh maybe I'm naive to piercings.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_02: What do you get if it's not a gun?
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like a needle?
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the proper way to do it.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_02: But that seems also like more painful, right?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: Because then they have to That's what I thought.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know the ins and outs of the game.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: I just wanted the gun.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: Just take me to a Claire's.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's how I got these.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: For those who maybe who are outside of the country, Claire's is like it's all purple inside.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: First of all.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: That's the perfect way to describe a Claire's.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, if you're to like three words to describe Claire's, I would do like purple, rhinestones, and like glitter.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: I would say purple, butterflies.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: And like fuzzy scrunchies.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, that that's nailed it.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: Nailed it.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's just that's Claire's accessories for preteen girls.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: And it hasn't changed since 1997 when I first went there.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna say, like, I remember being that young, it's probably like late 1990s, walking into a Claire's because it's like the first time you're there with just your girlfriend.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_02: So like you go to the mall, go to Claire's, and A, I remember.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: But I remember thinking it was like a very fancy store.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_02: I I never saw it as like a cheap chotchkey like store.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: I saw it as like, because they used to have like, well, they probably still do, they have like prom tiara.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: The nice place like the rhinestones.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I was like, whoa, like I can't wait till I'm old enough to get like a rhinestone tiara and like wear it to a dance.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like I remember being that like young wears a tier tiara to a dance.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I remember being that young thing having that thought, like, I can't wait to come back here when I'm old enough to get like a tiara for my first high school dance.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: Jeez.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's so I'm I'm smelling like chicken fingers.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm wearing a shirt with a picture of Santa Claus on it that says I believe.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: And my friend Lisa is wearing like the matching shirt, which was funny because they weren't actually purchased together.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: I found them both in a goodwill, and they were separate branded shirts, like they were slightly different, but they had the same theme going on.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like one said believe and the other said I believe.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: Very serendipitous.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_01: So we were like kicking off the holiday season.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm glad I was invited to said nice.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: We were invited, but unavailable because we're drinking late and I said shucks.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: I really wish.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: I literally hated every moment of this.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: The worst though, it gets worse.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm like ready to get my ears pierced.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'm like chatty Kathy, and they're like, Oh, I was like, I just thought a happy hour at the Rainforest Cafe.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: And if you really want to get a good deal drink, like I had three drinks, and blah blah blah.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: And the girl's like, ooh, if you've been drinking, I can't pierce your ears.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I was shocked.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize it was like tattoo rules.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm like, it's just my ears, it's fine.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's fine, pierce them.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: And Lisa is like, I love how she's so she's she's got the best personality.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: She can be very direct, but also very like polite about it, just assertive.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, it's fine.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: We'll just get the ears pierced.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: We won't have to talk about it, we'll pay, we'll walk out.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's a transaction, it's fine.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: We won't say, like, she was really trying to convince her, and she went to the level of like, can we talk to a manager?
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, shit.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: Here we are.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, she did the I am the manager.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: This poor girl, she's like 22 years old.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_02: Purple glitter world.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: 22-year-old the manager of Claire's, and she's just like, I need you both to leave.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: That was the lowest point of my like existence.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say, so Megan has now been kicked out of the Renaissance fair in Arizona.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: Now been kicked out of a Claire's in Chandler, Arizona.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_02: What will she get kicked out of next?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_02: Who knows?
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: Well, after we got politely asked to leave the Claire's.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we did get asked to leave to a pub in London, but that's a separate story.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_02: We did?
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_02: The black swan.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't leave because I was still having my drinks.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they weren't asking us to leave.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: They were just closing.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: They wanted us out.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: They were just asking us to leave.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they weren't like kicking us out.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: They were just aggressively saying we're closing.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: Can you go now?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I simply said, no.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm enjoying my.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: Elizabeth goes, when I finish my drink, I will.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh god.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: We're sorry.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: I may have this much left and sipping slowly.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: Continue your story.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um all that said, the bartender Caden, shout out to Caden at Rainforest Cafe, happily accepted us back after the Claire's debacle.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: Debacle.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: And, anyways, that was my Black Friday.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: I got turned down at Claire's.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_02: But you had the goblet full of nuggies, and that's what's important.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: And that goblet turns into a flashlight on the bottom.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of funny.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what she sent me as like the cool picture of like, hey, come to us hanging out.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: I thought it would be like a picture of her and Lisa like hanging out at the bar.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_02: The picture is like the flashlight on the wall, and it's just like a tiger eyeball.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, what I don't even know what is this.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: Look at this awesome flashlight I just got.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_02: Overpaid for my light eye.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: There was no context.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: It was like come to Rainforest Cafe, tiger eye on the wall.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, nice.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: That being said, maybe think about your ear piercing a little bit longer.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: Not to be your mother, but maybe you actually don't want it.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_02: I want it.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_02: How long have you been thinking about?
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's a stupid question.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: Solid three weeks.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe wait six weeks and see how you feel.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: The temp one looks cute.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: It is cute.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: But that's why they make temp ones so you can get it out of your system and move on.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'll just get a tattoo instead.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's fine.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: Of the tiger eye that says rainforest cafe on it.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: On half of her shoulder.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: With like the barcode to get the discount at the rainforest.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like the QR code for half the hour.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_02: Alrighty.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: Speaking of wild animals, Megan.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: Good transition.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: Good transition.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: Just popped in my brain.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_02: We have a really juicy one today.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_02: And it's one I have never heard of before we talked about it for this episode.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm very glad Megan brought it to my attention.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_02: Which, how did you come across this one?
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know?
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_02: I Googled.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting executions.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: Good for you.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: This is a very interesting one.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm surprised this one hasn't just like come out of the woodwork because it's like very um unique, I guess.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's a very special style of execution.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's very like folkloreish.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: It almost feels like an urban legend.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: It feels like it's not real, but this is very much a real confirmed execution.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: Circa late 1500s.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_02: So our man of the hour, our man of the evening is Peter Stump.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: Guess what?
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: We can properly pronounce his name, even though he's German.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure we're not even saying it right.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_02: Peter Stump.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: How do how do you say Peter in German?
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: Just Peter?
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: Peter Stump.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: Peter.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: Peter.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we did some German themed food for tonight.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: We had sauerkraut and brats.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I could not find the soft pretzels.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Very disappointed about that.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um sauerkraut was enough for me.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Potato pancakes, which I thought was German, but Lodka.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a Jewish dish.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: I know it's Jewish, but I thought it was a German too.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: A little bit of both.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_02: I suppose.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: You tell us, listeners.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: Vladka.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh hey, actually, this might be a poor timing for this.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: There was some parts in the last episode.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: And the episode before that.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Where we were like, oh, we have to look into that, and then I'll follow up.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I this is really bad timing.
• 16:49
  unknown: Never mind.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: You're here to tell us.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: We have not followed up on any of it.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: Is that what you're saying?
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: There was some research that I've done since when like listening and we were like, oh, we should look into that.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: And then I did, and then I didn't share what I learned.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: Would you like to share it now?
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: It feels like poor timing, so I apologize for the interruption.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: You already interrupted, and we're talking about Peter Stump, so just continue and we'll get back to Peter.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, side note.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: Side note.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: In Perk and the Pretender.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: We were bringing up the church at the Tower of London and if it was Protestant or not.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh the um at that era.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: I always forget the name of this church.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: I even said it wrong in the episode.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Well, do you think they just did St.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Vincular at I always forget the name of this church.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: Inside Tower of London.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I thought it was Protestant.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Or no, I thought it was Catholic.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: And you're like, is it Catholic?
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I don't know.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: I assumed it was.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: It was one of those churches that was Catholic.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: And turned Protestant.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: And then it went back and forth like during um the King Henry VIII's reign.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: During the Restoration.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: And now it's the Church of England because of King Henry VIII.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that makes perfect sense.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because obviously it's been around since William the Conqueror, so it had to have been Catholic for like 1500 years.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Then it changed the number.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm really sorry to interrupt.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: I just I was thinking of things in my brain.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's good.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: Let's get back to Peter Stump.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, was there another one from the last episode?
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember what it was now, but come back in like 10 minutes and interrupt something else, and you got it.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: We had a funny moment because obviously this is the first season we're doing video and we were watching part of the video together.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: And we're like, Megan, I think you just like zoned out a lot of the time.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't really know what I do, right?
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm just speaking, but I feel like I generally look at the mic and I look at you.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I look at my notes.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: When I speak, Megan just goes.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, my God, am I that boring?
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: And Megan just mouth open, catching flies.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: You're making me laugh.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Look at it.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: You made me smell like lying.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go get your ears pierced now.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not drunk.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just laughing.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: I got I can't perform like this.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's beautiful.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think this is a real life snapshot.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Damn it.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: You made me laugh while I was in the middle of a sip of wine.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't mean to.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm laughing because I'm envisioning exactly what I saw, right?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: Whenever you get into it, I just go.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: Stare.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't realize I didn't even realize I did that.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: It just goes that way.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is a terrible episode.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: I have to cut all of this out.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, I have to change my shirt.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: Please keep it in.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: Keep it in.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: This is all part of the experience.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: But we always say I'm a clutz.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Look at the wine all down my shirt.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: Believe me now.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like for four or five seasons, well, you know, I've been telling you guys, like Megan, ultimate clutz, can't have wine around her.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: This is why.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: This is why.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Because I he wouldn't say funny things while I'm mid-sip and I won't spit it out all over me.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, I'm so funny.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, can we talk about Peter Stump?
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so sorry.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, this is like we are really off course.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is gonna be difficult.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: You know what?
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: We got this.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: So Peter Stump.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_02: Peter Stump.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: And let's get let's talk a little bit about like who he is before we just go into early life, right?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: Because you've probably never heard of this man.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: I do not know.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: Why is he famous?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: Why is this a special episode?
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we won't tell you a whole lot because we're gonna divulge everything as we go on, but you have to know that it involves lycanthropy.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: Lycanthropy.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: What the hell is that?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'd never learned that word.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's like werewolfism.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: So it involves werewolves, it involves cannibalism, it involves satanic rituals.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: All of our favorites.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: And it involves crazy, crazy execution styles.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: So that's that's all you need to know going into this.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: So if you're like, who the hell is Peter Stump?
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: Why are we here in Germany?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Circa 1500.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: If you're like, this is a shit show and you're about to turn off this episode, we just hooked you in.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: You just got you back.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Got you hooked.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: Stayed on course.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: More the situation online.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: You can't even see it in the video.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, Carl.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, great.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for the incredible.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_02: Where's your tide pen?
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: You're welcome.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's downstairs.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: So Peter Stump was born in Bedburg, Germany, 1530s.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: What did I just say, Megan?
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: I listen.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: Peter Stump was born in Bedbug, Germany.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: 1520s.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: Close enough.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, 1530s.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, um, his his name also, just so you know, is like kind of up for debate.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Stump is the generally accepted last name, but some people refer to him as Stub, Stub with different misspellings, Stumpf, Stoob.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, some even said he went by the weird like pseudonym of Abel Griswold.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: That's very different from Peter Stump.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know where that one comes from.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but they said Abel or A Abil or Ubil.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: Sounds like a Harry Potter name.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: Abel Grizzly.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: Abel Griswold, like Albus Grimwald.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: Reminds me of Vacation, you know.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: Albus.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: National Lampoons Vacation.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: Griswold.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: The Griswolds.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: So, but the generally accepted name is Peter Stump.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: So, Peter Stump.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: We don't know again a lot of his early life because he's essentially just a farmer in this rural town in Germany.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: And he is a fairly wealthy farmer.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like some say that he didn't even like, they didn't necessarily know how he came about his kind of small wealth that he had, but he was doing really well.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: He was very well respected in the community.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, he was like a local Protestant.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: They said that he wasn't the reason why his birth and everything is a little bit obscure is because during the Thirty Years' War, a lot of the like local church registers were destroyed.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: But again, very likely that he was a very well-thought-of member of the Protestant church in that community.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um he was also a widower, so he did have a wife at some point who left him with two children, a daughter and a son.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: And that's really all we know about kind of his early life.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: But allegedly, throughout this whole time, while he's kind of this like well-to-do man about town in the small little German village, he apparently is there while all these very mysterious things are happening in the community.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: There's like mornings where people wake up and a lot of their like livestock is slaughtered, like their guts kind of strewn around.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_02: There's like people that are going missing every so often.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: And again, we know in this era nobody really follows up on missing people.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like all of a sudden, Sarah from the village is gone.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, who knows what happened to her?
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: She could have probably hated her life and tried to get out of there to go find the big city.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_02: She went to Frankfurt, you know, like who knows what happened to Sarah.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: But there was just mysterious things.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm mentioning Sarah.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: But there's just mysterious things happening from time to time, and no one thought much of it other than okay, well, we're in Germany, we're in a forested area, so obviously there are wolves.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like, wolves can come, they can do this to livestock, maybe they claim a life or two here and there.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: So no one really thought much of it for years while he's just living about.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_02: But uh he apparently during this era, people started catching on that he was doing something like where goats were being abducted, lamb, sheep, men, women, children.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: And they believed it might be him under the guise of a werewolf.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: So for whatever reason, people had suspicions about him specifically.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if it was because, again, maybe like his small amount of wealth, maybe his like more prominence, but people just started looking a little bit at him.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: And people also thought there was a weird relationship once his wife died with him and his daughter.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: They said they thought these two are a little too close for like m like daughter and father.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: There's something going on here.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_02: And he had a noted, like kind of incestuous relationship with a mistress who was also a relative.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: We really don't know what type of relative, and it's kind of weird to call that incestuous at the time because this is an era where you married your cousin.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like like I thought that cousins and second cousins, no, first cousins, first cousins, second cousins, uh no, honey.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I thought, and I read that too, that they thought that even a distant relative was considered incestuous, incestuous.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: Incestuous incestuous, yeah.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: I can't say that word.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: But so it was kind of weird that all of a sudden, like in this small rural village in Germany, they're like, oh, that's an incestuous relationship when this was an era where people definitely married their first cousins and it was okay in most of Europe.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: So very biased, it sounds like it sounds like they got to make the rules of whatever they felt was okay and not okay.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: And so, so that's kind of the backstory of like where we're we're leading off.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: And there is also, again, it should be noted, in this time in Europe, there's kind of like this big sentiment of like, if you're a woman and you're kind of strange and you're outside of the main social circle, you might be deemed a witch.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_02: And if you're a man in that same circumstance, you might be a werewolf.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_02: And it's kind of interesting to see how like the female male traits align with those things.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like with females, if you're being devious or mysterious, or like again, maybe you're an old midwife and people go to you for help.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you must be brewing potions and like concocting things and casting spells.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: And if you're a man who's maybe like a lonely shepherd, like farmer person who has this random wealth, like, how are you what are you doing to like acquire those things?
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe you're being a werewolf at night and you're like murdering families and like ransacking places.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just like there's this weird sentiment, and it's mostly in France and Germany.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's not huge, like it's not a big prevalent thing in the UK um or other countries, because it's really about like the wooded areas, like where there are wolves and where these like cattle are being murdered in the middle of the night.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: And don't you think that's funny that this is also where like the Hans Christian Anderson and the Little Red Riding Hood?
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and all of the old fables were coming from, also.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was a lot of French and German stories.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and I I always obviously like I knew that these folklores were were very deep rooted in these types of histories, but I and uh we've all heard about witches and the accusation of witches during this time.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: I up until tonight I never realized that you could accuse someone of being a werewolf.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I knew that men could potentially be accused of being a warlock, which was less popular than being accused of a witch.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: But this part was funny to me that they kind of thought like women, if they were associated with the occult, they were more uh their powers came more from spells and potions and charms and conjuring things.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right, like being devious and secretive.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: Men were more, and we'll get into this a little bit more, so I don't want to go go deep too deep into this, but men were considered to get powers from things.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like they would which reminds me of warlocks, wizards, Harry Potter, like they would have the wand.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: Objects, yeah.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: It was in which I almost kind of respect.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like women could innately create something from within out of nothing, or like nature, yeah, nature, and they would more or less like put a charm or a spell and conjure something out of nothing, while men were given some type of an object.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's a good one, presumably by the devil.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they were given something to have that power, and that powerful object didn't live within that person, but could be carried on throughout somebody else.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like you could pass it off.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was whoever just owned the object at the time.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyways, we'll get more into that part of it, but it is really just funny to me of this whole time period because people were so on edge, and we always talk about the the witch accusations.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: No idea.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: The meantime, men were like, well, he could be a werewolf.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: I had no idea that was even an issue.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: Because it was way less common, right?
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like because we're talking about pretty much the 15th to 18th centuries where there's famine, there's plague, there's wars, there's religious tensions, you know, all over Europe.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: So it's very easy to kind of fall back into your superstitious fears.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like instead of just being like, okay, this is the way of the world, and we got Catholics versus Protestants, and this is the shit that's coming out of it.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: With the religion part of it, you don't need to bring up witchcraft and werewolfisms.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: What do you what do you call it?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh lycanthropy.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_02: Acanthropy.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_02: Lacanthropy or lycanthropy.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, someone will correct me.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_02: But as they do.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, they do.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_02: We love it when you correct us.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's helpful.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_02: But uh anyway, but so so just to give you some perspective, like at this that that point in time in Europe, there was about 30 to 45,000 witch cases between those centuries.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_02: Meanwhile, there's only about 300 werewolf cases.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, still more than I ever thought that ever existed.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_02: I this is the first known like werewolf case I've ever heard of.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: This gives me so much more appreciation to JK Rowling.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, as Harry Potter lovers, I know we all are, we've always known that she's done deep research.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: For example, basilisks and mandrakes and all of these things that she brings up were actually at some point came up from somewhere.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: The Philosopher's Stone, they're all from something.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, Professor Lupin is a werewolf.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh, that's kind of like Halloweeny cheesy.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: Little did we know that was actually a true concern in medieval and um dark ages.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: The dark ages, dark ages, the dark ages, the dark ages.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it's it's very deep-rooted in like, yeah, like these like folklore legends, you know, these things again that are coming out mostly from France and Germany with their deeply wooded areas.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_02: And because again, they have larger wolf populations, like not only they just have to be concerned about wolves, they have to be concerned about rabid wolves too.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: So like the wolves that just actually go crazy.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: Because if you're just like seeing a wolf pack here and there, you're all right, keep the sheep safe, like there's wolves around.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: But if you encounter like a rabid wolf who you're like, oh my god, this could be a possessed demon human, you know, like you're all new level of something to be afraid of.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like you're new new fear unlocked, like your your you know, your mind goes into strange places.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, so this is all again, because it's this rural German town, these things are starting to surface where it's like that we need to pin this on somebody, like who can we look at that's gonna be the ultimate scapegoat for what we think is a werewolf on the loose, essentially.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: Did you not think of the I I can't call it new, it's from like 10 or 12 years ago.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: Still new to me.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: Within, you know, to us as millennials, it's still new.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: But uh what's her face?
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um you think about Twilight?
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm thinking of the new the the Red Little Red Riding Hood.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: Into the woods?
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_01: Okay Oh my gosh, I'm drawing a blank.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: The girl's the girl's name from Mean Girls.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: Aunt Amanda Seafried.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: That movie that she did of Red Riding Hood.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I forgot about that movie.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: And that was very much like a German folklore, and it was like the true fear in the town that there was a wolf amongst them, a rabid wolf, and they were pitting it on a person, and it actually ended up being a true werewolf, and it was someone in the town who would transform, and it makes me think of that.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that movie, like obviously the story in itself, Little Red Riding Hood, is based on the the werewolf folklore, but this movie kind of dives into that actual reality of what towns believe.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like the real version of it, exactly.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_02: And it's the same thing as these small towns in like you know, London and America, where there's like, oh, the witches, and like they're causing all these bad things to happen in the town.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's that same type of fear, and like, you know, once one person starts a rumor and it's a small town, like these things just like gain traction.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of love it.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: So 1589 is where we're at right now.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: And Peter Stump, he's got enough suspicion on him.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: Enough people are pointing their finger thinking, like, I think this guy, I think he's the wolf.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's the werewolf.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if you have notes about how he was actually caught.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: I have a little bit.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: I I know why they thought it was him.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: There's a couple reasons.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: There's a there's a couple of things.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I'll let you tell yours and then I'll see if I have anything different.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: One of the most basic reasons, which I don't know if we were really in agreement about this.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: We talked about it a little bit.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: Was Peter was a Protestant and the Catholics were trying to like weed out the Protestants, and they were using this as an excuse and a reason to get rid of him.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like that's a very easy out.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: That yeah, I mean that's going around all over Europe right now.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's hard to say that that's the reason why he specifically was, you know, taken out.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: One of my favorite reasons of why they came up with this is again, we know that there is wolves in the area, and one of the locals they actually fought one of the wolves off and they cut off paw.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Hold on.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: Cut off his left paw.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, Megan, where'd your hand go?
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's a parlor trick.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: For those who not are not watching the video, you are missing out on this.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: You're also missing out on the wine stain that has dribbled all the way down my shirt.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: Looks good.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: So they cut off the left paw of the werewolf.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_01: Peter Stump, which we could not find how his hand was actually ever cut off.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: Or when.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: Or when.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: When was the biggest thing?
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: When.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: All we know is he was called Peter Stump because he had no left hand.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: So they assumed because the werewolf, sorry, the wolf.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: The wolf that they had chopped off its left paw, they thought it was very conveniently similar.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: So your left hand, his left paw.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: This wolf's hand must have been you.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: Paw's gone, and now your left hand is gone, kind of thing.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_02: But again, like very weird timelines of like like like we heard it happen in an accident, we heard it happened when he was younger.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: All of a sudden, people are saying this is the reason why they even arrested him was because his hand was magically gone one day, and you know, very unclear timeline of when his hand was gone.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: It was confirmed gone at some point.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_02: We just don't know when.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: Seems reasonable.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, did you have other reasons of why they thought it was him?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I had two other reasons.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you beat me.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: So one was he did have a mistress, Catherine.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, he did have Catherine.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: So he was a widower, so his wife had died, right?
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: But after, I don't know if it was before she died, and then this just continued after her death.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_02: But at some point he gets this mistress, Catherine, who is in fact married to somebody else.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: So her husband is suspecting their infidelity and essentially pins everything werewolf-ish.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_01: What a great backup example.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_02: On Peter to be like, we gotta get this guy because he knows that his wife's having an affair and he wants to get this guy in trouble.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_01: Note to self.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: If you ever wanna accuse your significant other of potentially rendezvousing elsewhere, just stay there with the werewolf.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or a witch.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: Or a witch.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: She's a witch.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: Simple.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_02: He's a werewolf.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_02: Simple as that.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and uh, and then the last reason, which seems so completely far-fetched, but some people did say this, which I think is again more about the urban legend and the folklore and people telling stories over generations.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: But it is said that he was arrested after they actually spotted the werewolf in town and decided to get a mob together to like chase the werewolf in.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh, I like that's a good wolf chase.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like deep into the forest.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: So they're chasing this wolf, like, we finally got him.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_02: Here's the werewolf.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_02: And then they removed what was called like a magic were like wolf skin belt.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's a black wolf skin belt.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_02: And they said they were able to catch up with the wolf, remove this belt, which apparently is the source of his power, and they saw in front of their eyes this werewolf transform back into a man, and that man is Peter Stump.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_01: Where are the werewolves now?
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: Where have they gone to?
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's an interesting story.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_01: Witches are very uh today, however, you know, Wiccan and you want to approach it.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: I know we've talked about it before in other episodes.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_01: That is a real thing, and it is a religion, and people do celebrate or celebrate sorry, people do practice being wicked and celebrate.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: You want to know where the werewolves are.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: Where are the werewolves?
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: Where did they go?
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: For the last time, Mr.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: Adams, we do not know where they meet.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's from Adam's family.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's a good one.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um the last I've heard is Professor Lupin, third-year dark arts professor.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: True.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: Or Defense Against the Dark Arts.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: Last known werewolf.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: Never heard of them again.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: It is kind of true.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: You don't hear about the werewolves so much anymore.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: The vampires we hear about.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: We do still hear about vampires.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_02: Hollywood vampires happens.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um people who get their teeth shaved and they truly believe they're a vampire.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, like Anne Rice fans.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: I like that.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but and other people say it might have been a combination of these things, right?
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like maybe he in fact didn't have, well, he for sure didn't have the left hand.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: But maybe there was a wolf that didn't have a left hand.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe the chase actually did happen, but what happened instead was like they lost track of the wolf, and Peter at the same time happened to be in the forest.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: It could be a wrong place at the wrong time.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it could be totally a combination of the wheel.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: Bro, they're on a wolf hunt.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Get out of the way.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: And he was naked and he was shivering in the snow and he was like whimpering.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: With his one hand.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: Now we're getting weird.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: All that said, they catch him.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: They catch him.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: In some way, shape, or form, and they arrest him.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: And just a reminder, we are in Epah?
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: Am I saying that right?
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: With the city?
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the the village.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's a the village of Eprath.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_02: So it's right next to Bedberg, Germany.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: Bedberg.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_01: Which is outside of Cologne, Germany.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: But it's a very small village.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: So imagine this is like the big to-do of the town, right?
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: They catch the so-said werewolf.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: And what do you do when you want somebody to confess something in 1589 Germany?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, obviously you torture them.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: Just a little.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_02: Did we ever talk about how at Tower of London they had a sign that said, like, contrary to popular belief, there wasn't many people tortured in these torture chambers.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, what type of optimistic angle are they trying to take here?
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_02: Kills me.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_02: All we've been talking about for five years is the amount of torture that went on, specifically at the Tower of London.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: We were standing in the torture chambers at the Tower of London, and there's this sign that's like there really wasn't a ton of torture that happened in each of them.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: This place kind of has like a bad reputation about torture, but hear me out.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: There were also weddings and a church and cornations.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: Torture was on the lower scale, but all you ever hear about is the torture at the Tower of London.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: So we're like, I feel like they're trying to really fix their their reputation here.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_02: Constantine the Frog knows, like everyone knows Tower of London.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: Terrible destination wedding.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: They absolutely still racked people at the Tower of London, despite how they want to say good job, England.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: Good job, England, for trying to act like you didn't torture people that much.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: They also tortured Peter Stump.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: They did.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: In Germany.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: In Germany.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: They racked him.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: Which is probably the best way to get anybody to say anything that you want.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: Especially quick, right?
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm reading a book right now called.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, I talked about it earlier, but I never started it.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_01: I bought it.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, backtrack.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa, whoa.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: At the time.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: What episode were we talking about with Jans Middler?
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: Jans Midler, the executioner.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: That was ages ago.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: That was last season.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there's a famous executioner of Prague named Jans Midler, and we did a whole episode on him and his famous executions.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: And there is a book called The Executioner of Prague.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: Which is a historical novel based on Jans Midler.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like barely a third of the way through.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: I just started it and I can't put it down.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: If you're really interested in like the nitty-gritty of this is like worse than Game of Thrones.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's like very distractive.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_01: Very graphic.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: Where I'm going out with this is I just last night, it's like my before bed reading, which is probably a part of my issue.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_02: I just want you to all know now, she's re-watching Game of Thrones.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: I am, I'm binge watching.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then she's late night reading this very gruesome execution book.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_02: And then she's wondering why her dreams are all terrible.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_02: She's having nighttime.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_01: I also I cheated on Elizabeth and I went to go see Napoleon.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we were supposed to go see Napoleon together.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't need to see Napoleon with a friend, you know, I'll go see it alone.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I saw it, and like any battle movie, no spoilers, but like Braveheart, Patriot, all of that, there's always gory scenes of the battle, and the whole audience is like, ooh, ooh, and I'm just sitting there like, what?
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's child's play.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_02: She's she's sitting there at the door on business cards getting kicked out of the movie theater, too.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: No, just sitting there.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_02: She didn't mention she was also kicked out of the movie theater.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean no, I'm eating my popcorn.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, this is great.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm looking around, realizing everyone's like kind of covering their eyes.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I think I need to stop watching Game of Thrones and I'm just becoming immune to it.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know, this maybe this episode's not this podcast may not be healthy for my mindset.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: But where I was going at, um long story.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think I found the episode, by the way.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, continue.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Say it.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Which one is it?
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, I have it written as The Old Town Square Execution, season four, episode 12.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_02: We talk about Prague.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's the one.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: Who is the person?
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: Do we have God?
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: They all blend together at some point.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_01: I know things about things.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_01: Your handwriting's too small each.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_01: I know my handwriting and I can't read.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: The book I'm reading about the execution of Prague.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: I just read a chapter in detail of what it's like to rack somebody.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_02: Jan Midla.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_02: He will read.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_02: There we go.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, continue.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_01: The the rack.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_01: The rack.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: So we all know what the rack is.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: Is when you get pulled and you get stretched.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_02: So you're like, again, for our listeners on just the audio, I apologize.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_02: You want some ASMR of the rack?
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, I just learned what that is, and I don't want to know anything.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: No, stop.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: Don't do that.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't like that.
• 43:37
  unknown: Don't do it again.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to rack somebody now.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_01: Where's the rose tight?
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I can't do it.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_02: I can't.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: So it's gonna go gross.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what that is, but it's a thing.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what it is.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_02: I learned about it today.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, okay.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_02: But you're literally like you're stretched out, so your arms are like back behind your.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: Head attached to ropes in opposite directions, and then your legs are the same on the bottom, right?
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: So you're like in a big X, and what they do is they just pull you so that the ropes continually tighten and they stretch your limbs until all of your bones come out of their sockets.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: So in the book, when they were describing it, yes, the bones pop out, and they talk about like the there's like always like a significant one moment when they do pop out and then there's like a big scream.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: But yes, also their muscles are tearing and their skin is tearing and their veins are tearing.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes, a lot of the times, especially if the person was going to be executed days later and they wanted them to still kind of be like, you know, well presented for the audience.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: They would have so Lucy Goosey.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: Not Lucy Goosey, not a little uh gumby doll.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: The there would be a doctor still on site and they would snap their arms and legs back in sometimes just to keep them like going for like they don't want them just like Yeah.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: We've had executions like that where they just literally wheel them to their execution.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: Anascu.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Anna Askew was literally like a decrepit little like puppet, like there she's all crumbled because they how much they tortured her.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's really sad.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, go ahead.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, anyways, they did this to Peter Stomp.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: And shockingly, as his limbs are being pulled out, he confesses to being a werewolf.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: Weird.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: Weird, weird.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: Weird that all of a sudden he's like, alright, spooky.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_02: I've been a werewolf for 25 years.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_02: Hi, my name is Peter, and I've been a werewolf for 25 years.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_01: He says that when he was about 12, he made a uh negotiation with the devil pact with the gave his soul to the devil.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: And in exchange, the devil gave him the black werewolf skin belt that we mentioned, which is the object that gave him his magical power.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't like he was a werewolf.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: It was that this belt was a werewolf.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: And whoever put on the belt became the wolf.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: And he just owned the belt and at his will would put it on and be the werewolf.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's like Sailor Moon with your little moon wand, you know.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_02: You you wave it around and woo, you're Sailor Scout.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_01: Hannah Montana puts on her wig and she's like, I'm Hannah Montana.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody recognizes me.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, so we all have our magical objects we put on, right?
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we still do this today.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_01: They called him for 25 years.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_01: He was an insatiable blood sucker.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: He admits to killing a total of 16 people, amongst, of course, all the livestock and whatever.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: 14 children, one being his own son.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_01: He ate the brains of his own son as a werewolf.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_01: So many questions.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_01: So the the way people are getting this information.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, I zoned out.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: Did you talk about the pamphlet?
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_01: I have not yet.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_01: Wasn't sure if I just wasn't listening.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: So the way that people have received this information is they did locate a 16-page pamphlet.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: It was rewritten in 1590 in English in London.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: There is an original German copy, but it they never found it.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_01: But this pamphlet was rediscovered in 1920 by an oculist.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_02: Occultist.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: He's not an optometrist.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: Montagu Summers.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: Anyways, it was like a pretty large pamphlet that was very descriptive of everything that we're sharing right now.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_01: But it I said, it details the confession, but there's only like what happened to the sun?
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_01: So, okay, so Peter says, I ate my son as a werewolf.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's believe that.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_01: But if we don't want to believe that, then what actually happened to the son?
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, even if okay, even if he wasn't a werewolf who m ate all these people as a wolf, he might have just been a serial killer that actually killed.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's a possibility.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_01: You kind of like the idea of like, I can be a werewolf.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and maybe he was like, you know, part cannibal or full cannibal.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you could be a part cannibal, I think once you cross the line.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm only a cannibal Monday through Friday.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_01: On the weekends, I take a break.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's like drinking, like, you know, I only on podcast nights and then Friday through Sunday I drink wine.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_02: He's only a Tuesday.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: So cannibalism, you know, be that as it may.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so he Wait, sorry, 14 children and two pregnant women.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: The pregnant women part's nasty.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_02: Trigger warning.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: You say it.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: Me say it.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: I've been watching Game of Thrones.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: I can say it.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: Trigger warning.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: Also, Game of Thrones, spoiler warning.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_01: Ew.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: Ew.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_01: He said he would pull out the fetuses inside of the pregnant woman, and that's why he liked the pregnant women because it was like dual.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_01: It was a it was like an appetizer with the entree.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_01: He called them dainty morsels.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_02: So he just let that settle for a minute.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_02: He did he s he admitted this.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_02: He admitted that he pulled out quote unquote their hearts.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if that means the baby's hearts or if that means the women's all the hearts.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_02: Women's hearts, all the hearts.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_02: All the hearts.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, he admitted to that because he liked them like warm and pulsating and all that nastiness.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because he was only a partial cannibalist.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it was a Saturday night.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_01: What are you gonna do?
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, so in total 16 people over the span of 25 years.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_02: Which, if you really look at that, I mean, that's only one every two years, right?
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, is that so bad?
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, everyone's gotta have rules, like, oh, I only like get blackout drunk like every six months.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like, whatever your rule is, right?
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like, this guy's only at rainforest cafes, you might get blacked out drunk on Black Friday.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_02: You have I feel like you have a once-a-year rainforest cafe event, you know.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone has our events or traditions, or things we're like, hey, once a year I'm gonna do this.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_02: They called him an insatiable bloodsucker for that twice.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_02: Once every other year.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, once every two years is not that bad.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: What would you call that?
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_01: Biannu not biannual.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_02: No, it is biannual.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's like biannual cannibalistic episode.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_02: I learned that with bi-weekly when I was in meetings, you know, corporate meetings.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, people have different versions.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_02: Because they say biweekly is two times a week or it could be every other week.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, you know.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: Have you seen these jokes when they're like, Oh, I thought EOD meant end of December?
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: We should all get on that.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I don't think it's that bad.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, bloodlust really, once every two years, not that bad.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, so he admits to being a werewolf since he was 12 when he got the magic belt.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_01: Why are you laughing?
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_02: It just sounds funny.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you don't believe it?
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_02: No, I do.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_02: I very much believe the black uh werewolf.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_02: Thought I was convincing belt that he has it.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_02: No one was able to find the asked, they asked him the location.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: I cannot believe our 50 minutes into this.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, this story's not gonna be long enough for tonight.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: We just laugh enough.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: We've been giggly all day.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, but no, really quick.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: They they tried to get the location of said belt from him, and they're like, okay, so you claim you have this magical belt you got from the devil, and they and they're like, Where's the belt now?
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Where's the belt?
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's like he like quote unquote was like, I put it in the valley.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_02: The valley, and they searched the valley and found no belts, which is crazy.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_02: They couldn't find a belt in the giant valley that he vaguely pointed to.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: If they had tortured him correctly, this is how I would have done it.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: I would have just taken off a fingernail each time and made like him walk to show us the belt.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe you're gonna be an executioner one day and that's your calling.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_02: Been reading a lot about how to do it.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_02: In the apocalypse, you don't want to mess with Megan.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_02: She's ready for it.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: Here we are, October 31st, 1589.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's a great day.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't actually mention kind of one of the worst parts of the story that was confirmed.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_02: Very games of Game of Thronesy with his daughter.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you should you can also say that.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, because it's also Game of Thronesy?
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_01: He okay, so he admits yes, I killed 16 people.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_01: And yes, I'm a bloodsucker.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I gave my soul to the devil.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: I killed my son.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_01: I have a mistress, and I also have a relationship with my daughter and potentially fathered one of her babies.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: So that's the all-around like bad dude.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I just wonder if he's just like bring it on.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I am the worst scum of the earth.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: Not only am I a wolf, but I will, you know, and his all the other stuff.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_02: His defense for the daughter relationship, too, was he was basically like, the devil sent me what's called like a succumbus.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's like literally like this sexy enchantress, like seductress.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like, oh sorry, the devil sent me like this, like, you know, being like a long time ago or whatever that I've like had a relationship with.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, so I also have like like a sex craving, and it's a tiny town, there's not a lot of people, so what does he do?
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: He goes towards his uh daughter, obviously, which is highly she was at least over 15, if anybody needs that.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: Highly disgusting.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_02: At least she was over 15.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_02: That is still very disgusting.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_01: Me in my Game of Thrones mindset.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, oh well, she wasn't sad.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's so gross.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_01: So he's not binging this show.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_02: Megan's getting dark and twisted and uh darker and twistier.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_02: Twistier, and uh he admits to being, again, one of the worst people alive.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_02: So now we're ready for All Hallows Eve 1589, Megan.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_02: You go for it.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_02: Talk about the good stuff.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_02: This is the day of the execution, and obviously it's a small town.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_02: They know they're gonna be making an example out of him.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_02: And for what they're making an example of, it's kind of unclear because again, there's no actual court records.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_02: They they're obviously making a stand against like, don't be a werewolf.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: Don't don't have sex with your daughter.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_02: Don't have sex with your daughter, like, don't succumb to this enchantress that the devil gives you.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_02: Don't wear his belts he gives you.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_02: Don't just give away.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_02: Don't have a mistress, you know, who's also still married, and don't murder people and eat grains.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, lots of stuff, right?
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's 1589 Germany.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_02: There's gonna be weird shit going on.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yo, it's yeah, it is what it is.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_02: So, so they want to make it very clear that he is gonna have the worst type of execution.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_02: So the first thing that they do is they put him on a wheel, right?
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_02: Stretch him out, similar to like the rack situation.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_02: They kind of stretch him out over this wheel, tie him up, and they essentially peel the skin from his body with these red hot pincers.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_02: Which we've had executions like that in the past, that's not the first thing you want to do.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: We've had we've had executions where they put like oil in it, or they like you know, they make it even more uncomfortable than just peeling back flesh.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the very first thing they do.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_01: I just want to like imagine at what point is the pain just beyond imaginable, the worst pain you've ever had.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like the last level of pain that it's just it can get worse.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know what paper cuts feel like and stuff.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: I just feel like I'm just gonna be amplified.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_01: I am such a wuss.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can't handle a paper cut.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: How am I gonna have my skin peeled off?
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_02: People live through this shit while they die, but then they first live through it.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_02: But um, what also is bad about this is not only are they doing this to him, but they're doing it to his daughter, whose name is Beal.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_02: Sybil.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_02: Her name's Sybil, but they call her Beal.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's like a nickname.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_02: Stupid.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_02: They're doing it to her, and they're doing it to Catherine, the mistress.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_02: So they're flayed as well.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like all on wheels, all flayed.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like just if anything, this daughter is a victim.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, totally.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, she's 15, you know, it's her father, the person she probably knows and trusts most in the world.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's disgusting.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know what happened if she did have a kid, what happened to that child?
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_02: No one ever said.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_01: This poor girl.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but so so her Sybil and Catherine are both flayed, then they are strangled.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_02: I do blame Catherine.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_01: I I mean, I don't think.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Catherine's probably an adult.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_01: I don't okay.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: Catherine, maybe that's a little severe to get flayed and burned.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but whatever.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_01: But if she is electively with a man who's also with his daughter while she's married.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like there's more to the story of this Peter guy of well, it could have been very duplicitous.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like he had to have had some like I don't know, evil something going on.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_02: Also trigger warning, and I don't even like to repeat this, but someone just told this to me.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's apparently a new documentary on Netflix.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_02: But apparently there's a new documentary about some man in like, I don't know, rural Idaho or something in America, where he like locks his daughter up in a bomb shelter underneath the house, is still like married, has other children, you know, and like living happy, quote unquote happy with his life, and they just think the daughter like ran away or disappeared or died.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_02: But meanwhile, he's actually like has her locked up and is like abusing her sexually and like made her father like multiple children or mother multiple children of his.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_02: So like that's a real fucking story.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like in America, like modern days.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm so disappointed.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_02: And the the wife had no idea, apparently.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_02: The wife had no idea.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, like so.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_01: We can't blame the others.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_01: All that said, I I do think I don't think Peter was a werewolf, but I do think weird things were going on.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_01: Does he deserve that?
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's pretty harsh.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think anyone deserves that.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_01: But especially just his mistress and yeah.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_02: And again, under torture, it's hard to say what's real and what's not.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like if you're tortured, you might just say whatever.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like, maybe the first thing you admit is like, okay, I have a mistress, and then they keep racking you, and you're like, maybe it's like yeah, okay, uh, I've been fooling around with my daughter.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and they keep racking you, and you're like, oh my god, I'm a I'm a werewolf.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_02: I ate my son's brains.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like how far is it?
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like maybe you're just sitting under such dress that you're just like, I will say anything to get out of the situation until they're satisfied.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I just want to be murdered at this point, but he probably didn't realize his daughter and his lover would be there with him.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, so just to recap, so flayed, meaning your skin was pulled off, um, burned, beheaded.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, I have that backwards.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
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  SPEAKER_01: So those are the those are just the the sorry, Catherine and Sybil.
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  SPEAKER_01: They were fla I have flayed, hanged, and then burned.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: For for Peter, he was flayed, and then his limbs were broken.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they use like the back part of an axe to break.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not even that the sharp side of an axe.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they use like the dull side of the axe to to bash all of his limbs in and break all of his bones.
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  SPEAKER_02: Then he was beheaded.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then he was finally killed, beheaded.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then burned.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: His head was put on a spike.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, take it for what it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: They set up the wheel, they put a pike up, they put his head on it, and then they put a wolf figure on the wheel as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very Rob Stark.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very Rob Stark.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very Rob Starky vibes happening here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they and that's my last Game of Thrones comment that I'll make, and I should probably stop binging it.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, that's maybe, you know, just for tonight, you're already gonna have bad dreams.
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  SPEAKER_02: But um, there was a one account of one of the witnesses uh there at the execution who said, of all other that ever lived, none was comparable unto his unto this hellhound.
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  SPEAKER_02: So people at the execution were like widely of the belief that we got the werewolf of the town, like here's our guy.
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  SPEAKER_02: He deserves this like brutal end.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and again, it wasn't until the modern like 1920s that the occultist Montague Summers actually like found the pamphlet and made it more famous.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because this was kind of forgot a forgotten story for a very long time.
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  SPEAKER_02: When he found the pamphlet, he was like, Oh, like this is which is funny.
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  SPEAKER_01: I thought wild.
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  SPEAKER_01: I thought they they did such an extreme execution to make a statement.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, like, no one will forget, no one will ever be a werewolf.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and they're like, What werewolf?
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I was telling Megan, because she's actually going to Germany in the spring.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, I am.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I told her.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_02: They're probably gonna seek out every rainforest cafe in the world, which is a very lofty goal.
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  SPEAKER_02: It might be one in Germany.
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  SPEAKER_02: It could be.
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  SPEAKER_02: But if if bed bedbug, Bedbug, Bedburg, Bedburg, Germany is close to your uh, you know, tour.
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  SPEAKER_02: That would be cool to see.
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  SPEAKER_02: You should go see it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and see if see if that wolf thing is still there.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it is there or if anyone has any.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, the wolf in the head is still there?
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  SPEAKER_02: Not the head, but the maybe the wolf something, you know, statue.
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  SPEAKER_02: Maybe there's like a memorial of a wolf.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: They have they have interesting memorials these days.
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  SPEAKER_02: We we've learned with a lot of our executions.
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  SPEAKER_02: There might not be like a statue and a sign and this and that, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: There might be just something very subtle, like it's now an alleyway, or a plaque on the side.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's a tiny plaque, or there's a few like five stars or whatever diamonds that represent something.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like you never quite know.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's always interesting walking around historic places like that because you're just like everything could have happened here.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like executions and coronations and like you know, crazy shit over history because it's just like people compact in these really tiny areas that hold so much history.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, what a really intuitive way to end on that note.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why thank you.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, so that is our story of Peter and the Wolf, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Peter Stump, who you tell us werewolf or no.
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  SPEAKER_02: Will we ever know?
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_02: He's a creepy bloke.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's a creepy, creepy story, he's a creepy bloke.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't, I in my opinion, I think he was a creepy guy.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_02: I don't obviously I don't think he's a werewolf.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm kind of convinced I could go werewolf or out on this guy.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think he's just too much.
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  SPEAKER_01: They never okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: A few still outstanding questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Body hair per centimeter per square inch of his body.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we don't know that.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: We don't know his body hair ratio.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_01: Robbie would give him a run for his money.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um teeth size, don't know.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_01: Eye color, we don't know what big eyes you have.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_01: I do feel like all these folklore stories come from somewhere though, and I do they truly believed it was a real thing.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do have a like a genuine feeling like that, where like if enough stories around all the world share very similar like commonalities, like you know, we all have stories of like dragons and mermaids and like stuff that transcends cultures and timelines and stuff like that.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_01: Dinosaurs like that every time.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, dinosaurs are real, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's all they're not mythological.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_02: Well morons, but you know, but it like stuff like that.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_02: You're just like, there might be some truth to this, like whether it's extinct creatures or like stuff we still don't know about, we haven't even explored the depths of the oceans.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like, who knows?
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_01: Who knows what's out there?
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_01: Elizabeth, that's way too much.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_01: I have to go clean the brain off my shirt.
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  SPEAKER_01: Any final words.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_02: We did miss one important quote that I just want to say.
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  SPEAKER_02: He had the likeness of a greedy, devouring wolf, strong and mighty, with eyes great and large, which in the night sparkled like fire, a mouth great and wide, and most sharp and cruel teeth, a huge body, and mighty paws.
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  SPEAKER_02: Good night.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, just be won't go to me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, just be wall is going to be a toe wolf or get out of the town.