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Gardening Tips & Tricks Q&A [02.15.25] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening show,
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  Speaker 1: are your hosts, Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox
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  Speaker 1: on the Garden America Radio and Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: And there you are welcome once again. Now, we were
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  Speaker 2: off last week. I know it seems forever. It seems
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  Speaker 2: like it was a month or so. But the boys
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  Speaker 2: are back in town. We are back here on Garden America.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco, Tiger Palafox. Ready to talk
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  Speaker 2: about gardening, horticulture. Let's talk about some of the rainy
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  Speaker 2: weather we've had here in southern California. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 2: time zones. Boy, I almost said something else after that.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about a quick filter has to do with zones. John,
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  Speaker 2: you're right, Hi, Tiger, Welcome Bi John. What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: We are back. You know, when you're off for a
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  Speaker 2: week or so, you got to get warmed duck. You
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  Speaker 2: got to shake the cobwebs off. And I'm gonna toss
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  Speaker 2: it to John because he's thinking about what I was
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  Speaker 2: thinking about what he has to say about everything.
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  Speaker 3: The first words that we're gonna come out of my mouth,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to change.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: The amount of rain that we had at my house
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  Speaker 3: four inches.
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  Speaker 2: That I don't think we had four inches down here Tiger, right.
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  Speaker 4: No, I actually over the three days. Yeah, I actually
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  Speaker 4: saw in the news that it broke it down by
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  Speaker 4: areas and you know, Palomar Mountain was you know, obviously
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  Speaker 4: number one, that's our area that gets the most rain
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  Speaker 4: and snow usually right San Diego International Airport, whereas where
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  Speaker 4: San Diego when they say the weather in San Diego
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  Speaker 4: rainfall and San Diego takes their readings from was point
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  Speaker 4: seventy five inches, which which is still a really good
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  Speaker 4: rainfall for for the area. But you know, four inches,
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  Speaker 4: yeah that you know up and fall Brook and some
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  Speaker 4: of the other areas, that's a lot of rain. There
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  Speaker 4: was a lot of rain. Yeah, But but it was
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  Speaker 4: we were talking about this before the show.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't a downpour. It was steady.
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  Speaker 4: It was what we needed in the way of it
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  Speaker 4: rain a little bit on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Thursday, we're talking about a little more heavy shower.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it rained like a little bit on Wednesday, and
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  Speaker 4: then Thursday was the heavy you know, more rain throughout
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  Speaker 4: the day. And then Friday it was just intermittent downpours
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  Speaker 4: here and there, or.
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  Speaker 2: A consistent if it was snowing, you'd call it a
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  Speaker 2: consistent uh not light snow flurry flurry. Yeah, you take
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  Speaker 2: take the snow trance, you know, look at rain the
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  Speaker 2: same way. And it was just a light drizzle, but
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  Speaker 2: it was consistent, not enough to cause flooding, but enough
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  Speaker 2: to soak the ground.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and that's the thing is, you know, it's nice
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  Speaker 4: when it soaks the ground because that's what the plants need.
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  Speaker 4: That's what the garden needs. Is you know, it's one
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  Speaker 4: thing to just downpour and then it all runs off
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  Speaker 4: and goes into the street or into that I was.
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  Speaker 2: Going to say a light dusting in terms of snow.
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  Speaker 2: We had a light dusting of rain.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, whenever there's a little bit of moisture
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  Speaker 4: in the soil, you know, I always tell people soil
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  Speaker 4: is if you think it's dry, so it's like a
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  Speaker 4: wrung out sponge. Initially it repels water just like a
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  Speaker 4: sponge repels water, but once it is damp, it actually
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  Speaker 4: absorbs water like a sponge does. But you have to
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  Speaker 4: get it to be damp in the beginning. Otherwise, if
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  Speaker 4: you can dump ten gallons of water on, it's just
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  Speaker 4: going to run right off.
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  Speaker 3: I noticed I tried to get a lot of things
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  Speaker 3: planted before the rain nice and because I'm working on
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  Speaker 3: that one hill and where the old garden roses are,
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  Speaker 3: and I put a mulch on it. After I plant
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  Speaker 3: and after that first rain, you know, it was really
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  Speaker 3: really light, right, dismissing, and I think we got I
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  Speaker 3: think maybe half an inch is what I measured that
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  Speaker 3: first day. And then I went out in between the
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  Speaker 3: rainfall and just scratch the surface of the mulch and
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  Speaker 3: it was dry underneath. Yeah, like you're saying it takes
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  Speaker 3: a while to penetrate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way all. That's the way it has
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  Speaker 2: to go.
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  Speaker 3: It's got to be you know, a little at a
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  Speaker 3: time in order for it not to run off and
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  Speaker 3: just wash everything away.
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  Speaker 4: And that's like when we talk about potted plants. You know,
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  Speaker 4: these people will be like, oh, no, I watered it,
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  Speaker 4: Yeah you did, but the soil was dry when you
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  Speaker 4: watered it, that wouldn't even go into the roots. It
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  Speaker 4: didn't saturate the soil. And it's the same thing for
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  Speaker 4: plants in the ground, is that it needs You need
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  Speaker 4: to water it, and then you come back. You water
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  Speaker 4: a little more, and you come back and then you
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  Speaker 4: soak it, and that's the best way to do it.
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  Speaker 3: But I see a mutual admiration society going on on
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  Speaker 3: our Facebook, all our listeners complimenting each other on their
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  Speaker 3: pictures and the news.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I did like the tulips as well. I'm a big
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  Speaker 2: tulip guy anyway.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I got nice to see my wife for
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  Speaker 3: Valentine's Did you up some potted tulips?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean you can't get it roses, that's just
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  Speaker 4: that's just no.
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  Speaker 2: Salty. You can't cut a hydranger bloom this time of
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  Speaker 2: the year, so I guess.
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  Speaker 3: But the reason wanted to bring up the pictures, which
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  Speaker 3: we always appreciate is I think Lisa sent me a
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  Speaker 3: nice picture what I will which I will put in
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  Speaker 3: next week's newsletter.
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  Speaker 2: But the newsletter is usually.
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  Speaker 3: Finished by Wednesday, so if I get one picture on
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  Speaker 3: you know, late Wednesday, or Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: It won't make it in that week that you deserve,
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  Speaker 2: and you deserved it, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Like a newspaper there used to be a snail bait
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  Speaker 3: called deadline.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember that? It was a liquid one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they make that anymore, do they. I
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  Speaker 3: haven't seen it for a lone thing.
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  Speaker 4: You know. I mean for California, they've gotten so slimmed
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  Speaker 4: down on all the different products that you know, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of those that probably still exist elsewhere, but
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  Speaker 4: not in California, like maybe in Europe. Yeah, yeah, exactly
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  Speaker 4: inside joke.
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  Speaker 2: Ye you know that.
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  Speaker 3: Did you know that snails can spontaneously generate after it rains,
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  Speaker 3: just like because like I had none anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: That's just like they all about it, when it hits
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  Speaker 2: the ground and they just pop out. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: we were everywhere they weren't hiding. We haven't any snails though,
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  Speaker 2: like I mentioned a few weeks ago, for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: We still want some killer snails if they ever come
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  Speaker 3: back on the market.
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  Speaker 2: Why did they take them.
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  Speaker 4: Off from market? Yeah, we haven't been able to find it.
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  Speaker 3: It's been over a year last year, none available anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: I went to what's eeding them.
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  Speaker 3: Well killers, yeah, it would be any birds do birds?
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  Speaker 4: A lot of snails we've.
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  Speaker 2: Got you know what, Ever, since we started feeding birds
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  Speaker 2: in the patio, or I should say, Dana, I've seen
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  Speaker 2: so many species of birds that I never knew existed
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  Speaker 2: really in our area.
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  Speaker 4: Really.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, you've got the doves. Okay, yeah, that's sparrows,
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  Speaker 2: the finches. Now we've got birds that look like cardinals,
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  Speaker 2: which I know they're not. I guess we have orioles
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  Speaker 2: to a degree here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we do have some oriioals, but all these like
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  Speaker 4: red redbirds though you have like a cardinal, like a
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  Speaker 4: red bird.
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  Speaker 2: The size of a cardinal. It doesn't have the little
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  Speaker 2: crest on the top, but looks just like it.
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  Speaker 3: Really the red it's the red robins.
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  Speaker 2: But he wasn't bob bob bobbing along. You missed that part.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they do that before they get to the feet.
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  Speaker 2: The red red robin usually bob bob bobbing along. But
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  Speaker 2: he Yeah. Anyway, so this.
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  Speaker 3: Was a big thing in Michigan. We would always wait
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  Speaker 3: for the first robin of spring.
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  Speaker 4: Really. Yeah, that's not because they would migrate there, it
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  Speaker 4: was starting.
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  Speaker 3: That's when you knew Spring was almost there.
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  Speaker 4: So that was like your your groundhog.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, really you here first Robin of Spring. And
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  Speaker 3: when I moved to California, I missed robins. They you know,
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  Speaker 3: you hardly ever saw any. Yeah, and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: but lately it seems we've been seeing more of them,
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  Speaker 3: more birds, more robins.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well, Robin's a bird.
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  Speaker 4: Well you're just seeing more birds because you feed him,
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  Speaker 4: like you say.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and then the word gets out, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's interesting to watch some of the bullies
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  Speaker 2: out there that will chase other birds away because of
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  Speaker 2: the food. It's just an.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting thing to want question to our listeners too, about
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  Speaker 4: you know, the bird feeder out there, because what bird
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  Speaker 4: food do you put out there? Is it a specific
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  Speaker 4: bird food for specific birds or do you just put
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  Speaker 4: that like gourmet.
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  Speaker 2: Or it's for specific birds. Years ago, when John and
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  Speaker 2: I and we went back to was it was it
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  Speaker 2: Bayer or was it Scott.
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  Speaker 3: Scott's in Marysville, Ohio, and they had their pithologists.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, their big push that year was different birds for
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  Speaker 2: different regions, different states, different part of the country, right,
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  Speaker 2: And it was very interesting and they took us on
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  Speaker 2: this tour. So to get back to your question, it's
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  Speaker 2: just it's it's it's a general bird food skewed towards
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  Speaker 2: certain birds.
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  Speaker 4: West coast, southern California bird for the most because you're
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  Speaker 4: not putting like, I don't know, like pine nuts, you know,
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  Speaker 4: from back east into your bird food.
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  Speaker 2: No, but if you want to have Dane on the
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  Speaker 2: program as a guest for ten or fifteen minutes, she
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  Speaker 2: can answer all these questions. Yeah, because she goes out there.
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  Speaker 2: Everything's methodical in this and that.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna say, speaking of pine nuts.
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  Speaker 2: And also there's the squirrel food too, because we have
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  Speaker 2: a squirrel which we named Tarpi, and Tarba shows up.
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  Speaker 4: You actually feed Tarby.
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  Speaker 2: She feeds Tarpy and Tarpy we named him Tarpy.
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  Speaker 4: What do you feed tarpy?
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  Speaker 2: Blueberries? Nuts?
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  Speaker 4: Blueberries? Blueberries are expensive.
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  Speaker 2: But they're meally, they're bad this time of year. Talkers
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  Speaker 2: don't get mad at me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not getting mad at you. I'm impressed.
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  Speaker 2: But but Tarpi comes in. He'll sit there and he
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  Speaker 2: puts everything in his mouth, you know a squirrels do,
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  Speaker 2: and then he runs away, probably stashes it, comes back
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  Speaker 2: and then he's gone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got if you want to feed him, I've
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  Speaker 3: got some ground squirrel bait.
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  Speaker 2: I'll bet you. Hey, we have about a minute until
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  Speaker 2: the our first break, which will segue into the second segment,
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  Speaker 2: just in time for John's quote of the day or
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  Speaker 2: the week, I should say, and by away in case
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  Speaker 2: you're wondering those at home no guests today. Oh but
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  Speaker 2: if you read the question, but if you read the newsletter,
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  Speaker 2: you'd know it. So we're not going to do the
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  Speaker 2: quote till we come back. Now, let's do it.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: We got a minute, all right.
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  Speaker 3: The quote is from Alfred Lord Tennyson, and it was
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  Speaker 3: in honor of It's the way I think of you
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  Speaker 3: and Brian, but it's also an honor of Valentine's State. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: And the quote is if I had a flower for
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  Speaker 3: every time I thought of you, I could walk through
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  Speaker 3: my garden forever.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty heavy. Well, you know, too bad I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know that in high school. I could have used that
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  Speaker 2: line a dozen times.
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  Speaker 4: John can still use that. There's a flower for every
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  Speaker 4: time John thinks of anyone in his garden.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take a break welcoming those on radio.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you flowers. You know every time you pass
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  Speaker 3: that it reminds you of them.
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  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: John does have a I guess you could call it
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  Speaker 2: a some advice or a hint to better enjoy the program.
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  Speaker 2: Make sure you turn the volume up. It usually works
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  Speaker 2: a little better if you care about the dialogue and
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  Speaker 2: the pontification that goes back and forth. Right, you know
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  Speaker 2: pine nutt.
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  Speaker 3: I planted a pine nut tree, did you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well that's right, I think I remember. How's it doing.
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  Speaker 2: It's incredulous, not cheat.
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  Speaker 3: It's grown very slowly, and I think in southern California anyway,
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  Speaker 3: they do grow really slow.
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  Speaker 4: They're not big trees, right.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think they were, which is why I planned it.
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  Speaker 3: But now I'm wondering. Oh really, Yeah, why, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think I'll have to worry. I mean it's been there
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  Speaker 3: for two years and it's only grown an inch.
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  Speaker 4: Right. I thought they were kind of like almost like
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  Speaker 4: a like a rugo pine kind of a thing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're that all. An inchine a year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, inch in a year to two years. Wow, maybe
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  Speaker 3: I'll fertilize.
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  Speaker 2: A little water some soil. See what happens when? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Whereabouts on the property? Is it look at looking at
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  Speaker 2: your patio doors, the slanting glass doors.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's coming up the driveway or the driveway on
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  Speaker 3: the right along the road. It's on the hillside along
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  Speaker 3: the road.
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  Speaker 2: That's why it's slow growing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's near the Cedar of Lebanon.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Does you know your neighbor has all those Are they
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  Speaker 4: goats on the.
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  Speaker 2: Hillside across the street.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, how's that hillside doing?
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  Speaker 2: Do they get everything?
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  Speaker 4: Well? They it's barren.
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  Speaker 2: It's barren because and everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what happens. And with all it's a very
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  Speaker 4: steep slope.
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  Speaker 2: And you know you worried about water runoff.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I can only imagine it's washing away.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the green waist street cycle bins. Yes, I
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  Speaker 3: usually fill two to three every week and they're completely full.
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  Speaker 3: And now that you mentioned this, my neighbor said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to use my cans, you can use them,
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  Speaker 3: because obviously.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't need it anyway.
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  Speaker 3: And she said, just put them on my property and
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  Speaker 3: I'll use it to feed the goats. Oh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because that's a pretty big bill she's got. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 3: thirty forty goats down there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a very steep slope, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: with all the you know, you know, you've seen all
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  Speaker 4: the fire areas and the rain and the hillsides now
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  Speaker 4: washing away, and you know, I just thought about that
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  Speaker 4: because that's right across the street from John and it's
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  Speaker 4: a very steep hill. And you know, goats are wonderful
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  Speaker 4: for when you have a lot of weeds and debris
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  Speaker 4: and you need them to clean it out.
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  Speaker 2: But now there's nothing for them to eat. What are
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  Speaker 2: they eating now?
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  Speaker 4: Well she has to feed them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but so some hay and crane, just.
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  Speaker 4: Like you feed these, Hey, Dana, that squirrel will find
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  Speaker 4: its own food. You do not need to get blueberries
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  Speaker 4: and filet mignon.
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  Speaker 2: It's like in and out patio is like in and out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like a high closset in it is.
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  Speaker 4: This is like a it's like a habit birds.
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  Speaker 2: Three course meals and you can order all the cart
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  Speaker 2: and there's appetizers. But getting back to the blueberries, and
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  Speaker 2: I said they were kind of mealysh people. There used
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  Speaker 2: to be a time when they were merely and squishy people.
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  Speaker 2: You get that, you get that way as you get older.
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  Speaker 2: But there used to be a time when seasons were
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  Speaker 2: a fruit was in season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Nowadays people want fruit all year along. And that's why
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  Speaker 2: you go in to get blueberries now and you're rolling
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  Speaker 2: the dice because fruit wasn't that fruit, and some of
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  Speaker 2: the fruit was not meant to be eaten and enjoyed
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  Speaker 2: this time of the year, right, true, So don't be
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  Speaker 2: surprised when you go in there and your apple doesn't
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  Speaker 2: taste as good, or your blueberry doesn't taste as good,
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  Speaker 2: or or your tomatoes or mealy. That's what you get
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  Speaker 2: because that's what you wanted.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what we were talking with was it ed
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  Speaker 4: Lavah a while back about exactly the problem is is
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  Speaker 4: now there's a lot of fruit that doesn't taste good,
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  Speaker 4: and now people don't get excited to buy the apple,
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: the orange, or whatever it is.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: He talked about the weather conditions, like, you know, how
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: long did it take the truck to get to the
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: so many things that can happen.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: But squirrels don't care.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Squirrels don't care. They can enjoy the blueberries and the nuts.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: I can't believe you feed them blueberries. I can't get
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: over this.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I bought two blueberries plants, yeah, plants, nuts.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: I was like, that must be an impressive blueberries sell
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: blueberries each. I don't know. It could have been the
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: size of like a ping pong.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think Dan is listening because she hasn't chimed
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: in yet. She would defend herself.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's holding not holding her own over there. Did
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: you plant them, John? The blueberries?
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Not yet.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I had intended to put them in. I had two pots.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: I intended to plant those pots up, one one blueberry
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: in each, and then my wife decided she wanted those
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: back in the front of the house.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: The pots the pots.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: So now the pots have two fighters with white pansies
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: at the bottom. Maybe I'll take a picture for the
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: newsletter next.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Oh hey, blueberries. Are they? Uh, what's the big one O'Neill?
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it starts with an M.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Majesty.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: It starts with the ness, and it's not Sunshine, blue
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: or shark.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I'm still concerned he's going to lose his train of
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: thought when he said hey, hey, and then we went
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: to the blueberry conversation.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: I'll keep track of that for him.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Then, Oh yeah, thanks for bringing I did lose my
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: train and you.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Put me back on track. Shoot you baby.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Listen last week we weren't here, but listeners listening to
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: us this week. If you read last week's newsletter. I
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: wanted to thank Paula for letting us know about the
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: video that Ruth Stout had made. You know, Paula said,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: when she was in New York, she heard Ruth address
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: a garden club, and I put a link to the
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: video in our newsletter. If you did not see that video,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: you really gotta.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Go watch it. It's hilarious.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: And if you don't have the newsletter, I think if
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: you just go to face her to YouTube and put
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Ruth Stout's garden, the video will come up.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Well why not just abscribe to the newsletter?
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Well, it's too late. I already posted that.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean in general, I'm sure there'll be
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: other fascinating videos.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Miss that on the next one.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I see all the people we have
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: names of all the people that we can see right
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: now watching us on Facebook Live. I wonder what the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: percentage is of those people who get the newsletter, you.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Know, and it's only a dollar a month, twelve dollars
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: a year.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: It's that's not bad, right? How do we do it? John? Volume?
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: We actually been doing volume. We don't charge for that.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Actually we've been thinking about it, but so far there
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: is no charge. And it's uh, we've been thinking about
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: this for fifteen years, and fifteen years there's been no charge.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: We never make any hasty decisions. No, no, why start
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: now right? Any questions or comments, are we caught up
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: on anything?
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't have a branch fall through their greenhouse?
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Was that Lisa?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: And I know Lenora wanted to know if she gets
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: a discount on fertile loan. I saw that. Oh yeah,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: good question, Leonora Tiger.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Dude, what Leonora wants to know she can get a
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: discount on fertilo.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: On fertilum, what anything? Anything? You know?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: We'll get back to you on that. Leonora.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: What if you talk to Fertilom and say, hey, can
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: we have a giveaway a coupon?
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: There we go, we can do that.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get them more involved. They're keeping us on
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: the air, folks. Love your fertilon. That's our mantra for
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: this year, Love my fert alme. Okay, we're going to
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: take a break, all right, and then that people are
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: still wondering. Okay, guys, two segments. What's your show going
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: to be about today? What's the theme? What's the title?
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: First of all, we have a lot of things that
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: our listeners have posted that I want to getting.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, come back, and we're.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: Going to do that.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: After this break, We're going to take a break for
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: our good friends at BIZ Talk Radio, a good friends
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: at Fertilom. Stay with us. This is Garden America. Brian Main,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: John bag Nasco, Tiger Palafox. On your weekend or whenever
• 19:50
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• 19:51
  Speaker 5: America, Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Brian John and Tiger Alidi.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: It was a great break for us. Hope you had
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: a good break. BIS Talk Radio Facebook live a lot
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: of questions, comments, said John wants to get to today's
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: theme is what's on your mind. We're gonna let the listeners,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: you know, drive the boat, pull the train out of
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the station and choot you here we go again, John.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to our friend Kim and Tucson by
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: the way, the garden club. Right, yeah, she hasn't uh.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Carla mentions that she hasn't seen Kim for a while,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: so glad to have her back with us.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Veronica just said, yes, coupon's coupons. We're onto something here.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: You have a fertil om show and then we'll have
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: some few ponds and we will do that.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Do that. Tiger has set that up. How easy that was,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: asking you shall receive? Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Veronica in Spring Valley says that she bought a new
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: blueberry and another thornless BlackBerry and two figs. And and
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I just planted a fig last week. I trying to
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: think of the name. Oh, I guess I should know
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the name. It's a tiger fig.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Oh did you?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Nice?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: You know why they call it a tiger fig because
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: it has stripes?
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, you know, you know it's funny. She said. The
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: thornless BlackBerry, those blackberries, raspberries. Why would you buy anything
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: but but thornless?
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: You know they well, there is a way a reason
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: you to do that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: I'm asking why would you buy anything but thornless? Because
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: they wann't very difficult.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: But the reason most or some people would thornless is
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: relatively new by the way that they've spread them without thorns.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: But they're not as productive as the blue blueberries, I
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: mean the blackberries or raspberries with thorns.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Really so you get, you get less production, but better
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: don't die, right.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Right, better flavor, you don't die. No thorns.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: That so they really do get because I mean I
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: feel the berries they get pretty good production, but they're
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: substantially more for the thorn almighties almost double almost double. Wow.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: So if you need blueberries and raspberries, you're you're a
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: thorn plant because you have blueberries, blueberry sorry, blackberries? What
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: is it? Blackberries, raspberries and youngberries young yeah, young berries.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Another boys boys and berries, that's the other one. That's
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: what I was trying to think of. Boysberries. All of
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: those are thorned, but they have thornless varieties. You know
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: where the boys and berry came from Notts Very Farm.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very good tiger. That was you know, Knots Very Farm.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: It's like six flags right.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Now it's closing what Knots Very Farm. Yeah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Well, what I was going to say is back in
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the day, even before my day, but when I was
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a kid, it was just a place to go up
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: and maybe pan for a little bit of gold and
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: sell some jelly. It was like an old I love it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: It was like an old western town kind of that
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: old flavor. And then it became what it is today.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: And now it's closing down the Knots family, right John, Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Carlo says that her daughter received pretty little potted Italian
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: stone pine is a Christmas gift cue and she heard
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: it grows around forty feet. I think it's actually sixty
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: to eighty feet yep. But Carla doesn't want to throw
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: it out, so she wants to know she can put
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: it in a pot till it starts to get too big,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: and then donate it somewhere if it's still alive.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: What do you think.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I think that you can definitely put it in a
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: pot until it gets too big.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: As donating it isn't that like donating a.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I know where you're going with exactly. But let me
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: let me ask you tiger to someone.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: If you put it in a pot until it gets
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: too big, I was, I said, like donating a Washington fan, Paul, Yeah, exactly.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: If okay, so now it's too big for the pot,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: so if you kept it. But if you kept it
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: in that pot, would it just with stunt its growth
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: or would it then begin to look bad? Did you
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: ever hear a bone? Sigh? Yeah?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I mean you can keep keep kind offers and pots
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: for a long time.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Right, So I don't what you do it would her
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: desire be to get well?
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: But well, if it if it gets too big for
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: the pot and you don't want to keep and bigger
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: leave in the same pot, right, well, you know eventually
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: there's no no soil left and they just die. But
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: the way you trim a pine tree is they will
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: put out new growth in the spring, right, and that
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: new growth is called a candle.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: It comes up, it looks like the tips of the
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: It looks like.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: A candle, and then the needles all come out from
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: there when it puts out those candles, if you cut
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: it in half, each candle that comes out cut in
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: half and that's how you keep a pine compact control growth.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Most converse very cool, Yeah, yeah, okay, you know, but
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: she brings up a very valid question and concern. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: that's sometimes where this whole donation of plants kind of
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: comes into play. Now you would think like, oh, I
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: should be able to donate a pine tree and they
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: should plant it somewhere. Well, number one, if they're planting
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: it somewhere a size sizable plant, it needs care when
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: you transplant it, and when they re forest in area.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: They don't plant five gallon trees or fifteen gallons trees
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: because those would require maintenance and care. They do little
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: seed leaks, you know, and they do it during a
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: time of year when there's going to be rain and
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: cool weather. The self sufficient exactly. So it's very difficult.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: And then you would say, oh, well, what a some
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: kind of preserve or botanical garden. And usually they won't
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: take like, you know, like what John said, that's like
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: taking most of the time, that's like taking like a
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Washington palm or benjamina and they're like, that's not what
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: we want to take take over. Yeah, I mean, you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's just tough because
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, the answer is to throw it away, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: mulch it, chip it, you know, do you know, you know,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: if you're really looking to recycle it, then that's the
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: correct way to do it is just put it in
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: your green bin.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Call I wanted to know what other fix I bought,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: and uh, one, I've never tasted and I don't know
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: anything about it. But I've always anything that's big, I've
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: always been attracted to. Like there's at Roses a book
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: called All Giant Vegetables, and you know, they'll they'll talk
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: about cantilope that weighs thirty five pounds, or corn that
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: grows twenty feet tall, sunflowers that grow like twenty feet tall.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: With giant, massive heads that will fall off crush.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Kids run into one of those at night and you
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: can't see it. Scary.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: But anyway, There's a nairy fig an eri, which is
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: supposed to be one of the largest fruits of a
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: fig and it's supposed to be really good.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: So I planted that like.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: A breadfruit and just puts out like one right next
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: to the trunk because that's all the branch that can
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: sustain it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I had a.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: You're talking about, right, next to the trunk. Yeah, I
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: had it my old house, a jabata kaba. Yeah, I
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: remember that, and it took The thing about planting a
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: jibata kaba is if they're seed grown, which most of
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: them are, thirty years No, not thirty years, but it
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: takes about fifteen to twenty years. So anyway, after about
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: fifteen years, mine started to flower. And I always liked
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: the pictures of them flowering because they flower right on
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: the trunk and the branches, and because of that, the
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: fruit is right on the trunk. And again, the pictures
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: just really intrigued me. So I waited fifteen years to
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: find out that nobody liked the fruit. I think I
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: talked myself into liking it just because.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Years I've waited a long time for this. This is delicious.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Oh anyway, I didn't plant one at my new house.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: So Veronica was saying, you know, because we were talking
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: about the thornless berries being less productive than and she
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: said she had great production. And that's the thing is,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: that's like saying a thorm this lemon has better or
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: less production than a thorned lemon. You still get great production,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: you know. You for most people, it's it's not like
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: it only produces three or four berries, right, like you
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: still get enough.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't say that you get poor production witherries.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: It just said less production. And you know, so Tiger's
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: saying less is.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: More, Well, less is more when you don't have to
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: wear a leather suit to work with the plant. You know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Boga villa's and thorned berries, because there's really no way
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: to keep a thorned berry nice, you know what I mean,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Like like you try to train it, you try to
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: like put it on a fence, but at some day
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: you have to work with it and trim it and
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: cut it and clean it. And it's not fun, you know.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I You know, I just feel for the people that
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: have to do that on a regular basis, because, you know,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: for the end result, people always are like, oh, boguan
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: V's are beautiful, bogas, these are beautiful. Hair cut one
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: back and then let's see if you want a plant.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: And then have some fun and transplanet and see how
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: well it does. You know, we had one in our
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: backyard when I was a kid. I had no idea
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: what it was. I just knew it was a nice
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: little plant that had red flowers on it. A lot
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: of color, a lot of color. But they were all
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: over the place, all over the lawn.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Oh no, Kim Tucson, right, Kim. My entire yard and
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: all my gardens were destroyed in the last monsoon, along
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: with my gazebo, roof of my kitchen. I'd been busy rebuilding. Damn.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I mean goodness, Kim, good luck.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: A lot going on over nearis. Silence fell over the
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: studio after that.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, there's there's more. There was more to that.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Our heart goes out to you.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is good therapy.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: We got to take our right winning a little bit
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: tap here when we are going to take a break
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: from right back for BIS talk with you. This is
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Dark America.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, we have returned, obviously, and for those on BIS
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Talk Radio, this is the final segment of hour one.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: We give you two hours. Hopefully your market carries one
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: or both hours here on Garden America. You've got news
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: coming up top of the hour. We're back at six
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: minutes after Facebook Live just keeps on rolling right along.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It's been sort of a free for all this morning.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: In terms of discussion topics going back and forth. This
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: is thorny, that's not thorny, that won't brow that'll get
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: too big, and I transplant it? Can I give it away?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: That's too many questions, a lot of things going on.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: What did you come up with during the break?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Well, I was just gonna mention, since we're talking about thorns,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I've planned it on my hillside, a bardue job or
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: bardeu job, however you want to pronounce it rose and
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: it's thornless. I didn't plant it because it's thornless. It's
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: just just one that is thornless.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: It's an old rose thornless.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: It was the rose that is the center point of
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: our center topic of the book, The Alcatraz rose.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Oh that they found on the Alcatraz island.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that our buddy Greg Lowry uh found or discovered
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: supposedly on the island of Alcatraz. You know the island
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: of Alcatraz used to have a rose garden.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and the inmates took care of it, right,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: inmates took care of it. Yeah.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: And not just the inmates.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Alcopone used to play people that lived there.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: You know, they had families that lived there, the guards
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: and all of that. So they have whole gardens, beautiful
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: gardens on that.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I guess it was too expensive to maintain, right. They
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: closed it in nineteen sixty three.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Then the Indians took it over, right Native American.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And it used to it used to be an army base.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I think before that was, Oh it was real kind
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: of military. I think, prior to it becoming a prison.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's changed hands the number of times
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: that was the.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Rock before Dwayne Johnson.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was, and before the Nicholas Cage Rock.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, Kevin Lawrence. Some plants just grow bad fruit.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I have.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: I tried a couple of pluot trees and strawberry guavas
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: and the fruit was horrible. But my friend from Vista
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: gave me some strawberry guavas from his tree and they
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: were delicious. Like the Bible says, if the tree bears
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: bad fruit, they can cut it down, right, that's true now,
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely feel there's a lot of there
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: could be a range of varieties of strawberry.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: And why don't you give it a season or two?
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Well, you know you said it earlier in the sense
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: of it could be having to deal with the time
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: it was harvest, different growing situations and stuff like that.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I imagine there's a variety of quite a few varieties
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: of strawberry gabba.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: I mean when you you know, nowadays you pretty much
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: it's just strawberry waba and that's what you get.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: But I never thought strawberry quabas were that good.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, that's just it. I mean, they're very
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: specific strawberry flavor.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Strawberry trees. I didn't never thought the fruit was that great.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah they are beautist. Yeah, yeah, those are only for
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: the birds. But uh, you know, growing it, growing growing
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: conditions also changed the the flavor, and that's you know,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, let's be really, the biggest one of the
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: biggest crops based on growing conditions is grapes and wine,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: and very specific flavors come from very specific regions. And
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: that's the same for all plants, you know. I mean,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: you you know, growing a tomato somewhere is going to
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: make that same variety of tomato taste different growing it
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: in its ideal climate environment too, So I don't.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Know, do you remember when we were in France and
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: we went to the one winery that had it looked
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: like it was planted in rocks.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, it was the grape or what do you mean, the.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Actual grapes in the vineyard. The it was the veal.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Our listeners probably know the veel something to pop peel,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Chateau de Pop. I don't know, it's like the Pope's
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: vineyard or something. But anyway, when we years ago, we
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: were selling the miniature grapesmerme those.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I remember John from John and Bob's had like a
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: little vineyard in his front easement.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, I still have one of those, and
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I when I was over there, I thought, you know,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take a couple of these rocks home.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: So and they were kind of they look like Mexican
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: beach pebbles except their tan or brown. So I've got
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: my little miniature Pixie grape in a pot with those
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: two stones that I brought from that vineyard there. So
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: it's always good memories just looking at that look.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: At you you know, you know it's funny that you
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: mentioned that because in Spain when we would visit a vineyard,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean when you go to a vineyard
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: in California. Yeah, well, just you know from the California
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: you know, Temecula, Napa. Sure, they just had these wide
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: open hills that just have grapes growing all over them.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: But in Spain, like you say, it was like a
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: rocky a rocky mountain. Not an easy to harvest, not
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: an easy place to grow. But I think that the
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: soil conditions were really good for they were growing there.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: And that's but it blew me away because you know,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: we we would remove those rocks.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about convenience.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we would make it as flat as possible
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: and remove those rocks.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Well, the vineyard I'm talking about, there's no way you'd
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: get a roaded till our three.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: I was wondering the same thing, like how did they
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: plant those there?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I guess once you've got them in. Yeah, it's like
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: they used to say about avocados. If you can dig
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: the hole, you can plant the avocado. It'll grow, all right?
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Are we caught up?
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Oh? I like?
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: I like.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: I like Lisa's comment here. She says, I have a
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: lemon that fits the bill, like ready to take out.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: She wants to remove it in twelve years. It hasn't
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: grown over six feet and never a lemon a waste
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: of real estate.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Now, now, if it had grown six feet with good lemons,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: that would have been great because if you could pick
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: them easy.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: You know, And that's a big question for people, is
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: how much time before you just call it? I think
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: twelve years, You think twelve years. I think like two years,
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: especially on a lemon.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Well, no, I'm saying, yeah, okay, if anybody wants to
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: come to my house, you keep free lemons.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: You can pick all you on. I think it depends
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: on your patients. But I would agree that after twelve
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: years probably a good idea. Take it out not doing
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: anything right.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: A lemons should be producing in one to two years,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: even a small one like a five gallon one.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: That's how you tell if a doctor successful. By the way,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: depends on his patients.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're absolutely correct. And you know what
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: else you're correct on. You're looking at me thinking is
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: it time for a break, And you're right, Johann, it
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: is time for a break. We have news coming up
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: for BizTalk Radio.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: And the answer to Veronica's question, we come back.
• 38:55
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• 39:08
  Speaker 2: back after news and these messages from Fertilom and other
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: supporters of Garden America. Yes, indeed we are ready, but
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: we had to be quiet. It was during the break
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: and I know people were watching us that we can't.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Hear them, but no, it's frust not frustrating, but it's
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: like awkward sometimes when I'm trying to read and do
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: things and then I look up and it's like you
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: guys had a moment because you guys, you guys looked
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: at each other and then you looked at me and
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: then you just smirked, like what did I do? I do?
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know what were you looking at? More about me?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: With me?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Were thinking the exact same thing. He's so cute.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: No, that's definitely not it basically a quick Lanswert John
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: like you're ready, and then John kind of gave me
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the nod like all right, and then it was looking
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: at you like are you ready? Well know you were
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: deep in thought.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't even thought. Yeah, And so I thought you
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: guys were making fun of me about Oh no, no, no,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: we'd make fun of your face.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, we wouldn't be quiet about it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: That's what I thought.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: It was so weird. We wentn't do it during the break.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: We do it on the your lives everybody else could hear?
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: What were you doing?
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: By the way time I was trying to I was
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: reading the questions, and I asked you if you know
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: where Veronica was in Spring Valley? Because her question is specific,
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: When should I When should I plan for the last frost?
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Seed catalogs with sales are dangerous now I have lots
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: of seeds to start, and if she's in Spring Valley,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: pretty much the end of this month is like the
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: last frost, right right, end of February.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, end of February. You're safe, should be safe for sure. Yeah,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: but the ground still has to warm up to plant
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: certain things. Right if you're planning like uh, squash or
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: warm season crops or corn, you you don't even know
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: that there's not going to be a frost.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: You don't want to plant mid March to be safe.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't plant those until what would you say,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: tiger mid April?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: April okay, another month after that.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because like John says that, I think the
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: biggest risk that people run when they do that early,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: especially well, is they the seed rots in the soil,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: like it just stays wet and then and then they
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: get frustrated because it never comes up.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Seed seed does Germany because we'll have warm days and
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: then the soil's too cold for the roots and wet
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: on top of it and they just stropped.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. So so yeah, I mean the early stuff
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: that we're talking about the end of this month, you're
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: good to go from their March and then you know
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: the later stuff. Mid April's perfect time.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: You have tomato Mania coming up next month, right March, Yeah, March.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know the date. I'm sorry, but it's coming
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: up next month. Tomatomania.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: That's a fun Do you take part? Are you actually there?
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Not?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Usually, I know, because you're less less and less time
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: at the nursery and more and more time out on
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: the road.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean lots of fun variety of tomato,
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: and that's always nice to be able to buy the plants,
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: you know, it's hard to sometimes get some of the seeds.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: But I don't think I've had a sun sugar tomato
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: John in years.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Really, what was the one you got last time? Didn't
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: you get something?
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: It was something else that was sweet that was comparable, comparable,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: comparable to the sweetness of sunshure.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Really, wasn't it. Didn't you have a tomato of the
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: year that was really sweet that you gave him?
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah? So what was the name of that? And it
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: was really good?
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it was a couple of years, a
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: couple years ago, because I feel like the bronze.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: There was like there, I would recognize the name.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: It was like the atomic Atomic something or another atomic war.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: And something like that.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, ed live By the way, Tiger said that he
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: agrees with you no more than two years of poor
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: production or growth.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: And he rips it out rid of it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I mean, if you're not getting something
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: in a couple of years from a fruit tree, it's
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: I mean when sinar, Yeah, that's why you got it
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: was production. I mean, I can understand, like avocados, some
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: some things just require time, but you would know that
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: going into it, correct, you know, but a standard citrus
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: or an apple or what you know those they should
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: be growing quickly for you and having some kind of production.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Carl has a rose question and she said she
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: read that iceberg roses can tolerate some shade.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Is that true? It depends.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: If you're in Temecula, they'll take some shade, no problem.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: But they can milde and on the coast, I mean
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: they're not mildew magnets. It's not something you normally have
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: to worry about. But the more shade that you give
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: it on the coast, where you already have cool weather
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: and less sun, it may be more of a problem
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: than it would inland. But it is one of the
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: roses that does tolerate some shade, oh for sure.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: And Brian and I were talking about this problem before
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: the show, that this is the time of year that's
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: so difficult for people in southern California because you could
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: be driving around town, oh iceberg roses. You could be
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: driving around to any in and out in southern California
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: and they're gonna have beautiful iceberg roses where they're you know,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: their stores are they always plant iceberg in their stores.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: But like that doesn't mean yours should look that pretty,
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: because maybe it's shadier or you're in a cooler area,
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: or you know, I mean they also have a gardener
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: that's taking specific care of them. And you know, it's you.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: You judge your performance based on other places or what
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: you see, and you you have to be careful doing
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: that because you have to think about yeah, yeah, you know.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: And that's how people sound when they ask that question.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: The same problem.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: That's why they have different ROAs societies too. You know,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: there's the del marro Society, California Coastal Roads Society, there's
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: a Temecula ROAs Society. Plants that do really well or
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: roses that do really well on the coast be the
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: best for inland. But usually it's roses that our good
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: inland may not do well on the coast. Almost anything
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: does well inland, almost.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: If you're on the coast.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: A good way to decide whether a rose you know
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: nothing about is going to do well there is you
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: might look at where the rose came from. So if
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: a rose was bred in England, for instance.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can take all kinds of cool weather.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Usually yeah, usually usually cooler weather. Not always true, though,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: like David Austin, roses come from England, but some of
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: the early David Austin roses will do a lot right,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: the later ones not so much.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had Green Planet inland in Santia, and then
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight moved it out to where
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I am. Now. I'm trying to think if I had
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: any other Roses that might be the oldest rose I have. Wow.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I realized you had it back in Sante because I
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: got it at the auction in two thousand and four. Wow.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: This year's the twenty fifth anniversary of the auction.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Twenty five?
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah, really, I there from almost the beginning. I
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: gave you the date right to mark down. Yeah, you
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: said make sure you're there. Yeah, I just figured you'd
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: tell me again.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: It's like October twenty fifth or certaing like that.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Sure wall this year October this year twenty oh, I
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: don't know about that.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: You're doing the twenty fifth on the twenty fifth.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Hey, So let me ask you a question from a
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: quasi geographical point of view. Okay, would you say that
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: where I live or the fifteen right there?
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Would you consider that the coast? No? Thank you? And
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: here's here's what's really interesting is that you know Alexa
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: gives you all these things. Yeah, packages here, weather Report's
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: going to rain whatever, constantly gives us a high surf
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: advisory in effect for the Scripts ranch. Are you.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, we just got one this morning.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: High surf advisory for the Scripts ranch. Are you? And
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: there's no way to explain to her, you know, because
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Alexi Alexa on the phone talking to her friends during
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: her nails with curlers and her hair planing for people
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: now and then, that's how I picture her. But I'm
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: thinking what I'm thinking, why what are you talking about?
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Goodness, we're not the coast.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: It's my little irritation. I get it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: A less is the area that she has on the
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: for the iceberg rows is four hours of sun? I
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: would say I would recommend against it. Yeah, that seems
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: four hours the sun would be great.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: You know what that sounds like my patio? Yeah.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: I I could only imagine like it'd be good for
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: about one year and then she's gonna be battling mildew,
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: no foliage and spotty blossom.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I would say too high ranges instead.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Oh that was a good one.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do well.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of night there's so many
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: new high ranges the New Doubles, Tiger Planet, A bunch
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: of hydrangers in my house and you probably had what
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: six eight different types?
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I bet your wife loves that. I loves it,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah she does.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: And they look beautiful right around April May do.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: You remember the griffin begonias that I have, Plannet.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I was just telling Tiger that mine right now looks
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: terrible because it's opposed to right. It looks it's all
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: spinlely dead looking, but that's what it does this time
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: of year, right.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: And so that's what mine looked like. That were by
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: the patio door. So Shannon pointed out to me, Yeah,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: now's a good time to dig those out. No, So
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I dug them out, planted them up on the hill,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: and put three hydranges where those were.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: So we're going to take a break right now. Speaking
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: of that, I had the same conversation.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: With Tiger comment on Leonor's question or comment.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we have to take a break. Commercial sponsors
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• 50:48
  Speaker 2: That means we're back after the break. Hope you had
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: a good break. We did Facebook Live Biz Talk Radio
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: a lot to catch up on, and basically we've been
• 50:56
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• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Live this morning.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, our next topic is based on
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Lenore's common and she wrote, one of my cherry trees
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: has a couple of bloomings, and two plumerias got a
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: new leaf. And I'm just so glad that we live
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: in southern California where, you know, those issues of maybe
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: flowering plants out of season a little bit, or you know,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: plants emerging a little earlier is usually not as detrimental
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: as some of the other areas that when you know
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: their plants start early.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Can they get a light frost?
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, they lose, they lose everything that goes.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: You know, how cold does it get in Canyon Country?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Oh she gets freezes, Yes she does. She does well.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Cherries obviously should do well.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: And if she has a cherry, it's cold there, right,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: Like you can only grow cherry.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: No, didn't you say that there's some cherries that don't
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: require Yeah, there's slow chill cherries.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, but but I mean, you know, and that's a
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: battle that we have during this time of year of
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: emerging of the transition and season.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Why Pope John Paul that bloomed two weeks ago, Yeah,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere, you know.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: But the nice thing about the Pope John Paul is
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: that the plant's not going to die or you're not
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: going to get any fruit off of it if if
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: you get a late season frost. Where you know, where
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: you know the problem lies is where some of these
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: fruit trees are grown, and like John said, they get
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: a late season frost or they get a storm and
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: then when it's blooming and then you get like zero
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: production and you spent you know, we're talking about two
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: years investment in a tree and if it doesn't produce, well,
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: what if those two years you got late season storms
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: or late season freezes or you know, or or it
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: emerged early and then didn't produce. But that also is
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: why all of these plants have certain criteria, because you know,
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: you need to plant plants that don't emerge genttel later
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: or you know, wait, you know, the marginal plants are
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: where you struggle, and you know, it's it's always tough.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: You know, when you have you know, these plants that
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: emerged early for you, whereere you.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Go that was one of the reasons I moved to California.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: I had I planted a tree with sterea, which you
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: don't don't normally see in Michigan, and eight years be
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: without blooming. Finally, the eighth year it was covered in
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: buds that got to be about an inch long, and
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: then a freeze came and killed every single one.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Said, after eight years, that's it, I'm leaving.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Let's see uh lila and POWI. Brian wants to know.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: She was looking back in her notes. She's got a
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: file on you, and she wants to know if it
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: was the terra Cotta tomato that was one. It was
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: somebody's name, terra Cotta. Do you remember that was the
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: tomato of the year about It was from what eighteen
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: ninety or something like, Yeah, really old tomato sweet. Yeah,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: but I don't know if you had mentioned that I
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: had grown one and said it was my wife's favorite tomato. Yeah,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: said it was the best one she ever.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: That was the one that was planted right outside the trailer. Yeah,
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: remember that.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was called thorn thornburns, thornburns.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Terra Cotta, Yeah exactly.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was phenomenal.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Kevin says that your alexis probably thinking scripts peer.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: Scripts Ranch.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah, Scripts Ranch.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Alexa Tiger Kim in Tusson wants to know if you
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: have a tomato event at your nursery. That's the tomato
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: mania we were talking about.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: She said that her sister Melody lives in La Joia
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: and and uh mentioned it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, let me, I'll find out right now.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: Let's he hear it to me too.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Now do you always have is it different than the
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: garden walk or do you have the two at the
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: same time.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: No, garden walk is always Mother's Day weekend. Oh, and
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: tomato mania is in March. Let's see here March eighth
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: through the ninth, Saturday and Sunday March eighth to ninth
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: for Tomatomania.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: It was funny.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: We had a post here from Veronica that didn't we
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: we didn't understand because it said Alexander's a dumb blonde
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: and didn't know what she was talking about, and she
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: just posted darn auto correct Alexia. Yeah, so it still
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: came out. Yeah, that's funny.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: It's it's frustrating when it auto corrects you when you
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: spelt it right and then it and then you got
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: to go back and respell because it's not all you know.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: The So if somebody is using their voice to send
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: a text message, and let's say they want to send
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: it they're using my name, it'll always come up be
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: our I as because you're weird. And yeah, of course,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: so I said, and they know me. It's oh, sorry,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: it's an autocorrect or I was doing the voice text.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I know you spell it with a y.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Does that all come out? Does that all come out
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: in the in the text?
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes Brian blah blah blah.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, I'm using Yeah, I'm using the
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: voice text, and it spelled your name Brian with uh.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I think it's it's it's convenient, but more of
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: a problem trying to use the voice text, because then
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: you have to go back anyway and look at it.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: And is there a period there?
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: They didn't put a comma there. Yeah, that's not what
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I said. I said yard, not in yard or whatever.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Kevin says that one of his rose bushes didn't get
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: prone back this past fall. Uh oh, and now it
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: has rose hips and he wants to know what to
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: do when it has rose hips. Well, first of all,
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Kevin lives in Cordelaine, Idaho, which is a little bit
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: colder than San Diego.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Weave it.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: But Kevin, you don't have anything to worry about because
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: in cold climates usually don't prune until spring because most
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: of the pruning is not the shape like we do
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: here in southern California. Your pruning is to cut out
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: all the dead wood. So usually you would not prune
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: your roses in the fall. You would let them set
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: hips go dormant, and then prune them in the spring. Yeah,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: unless onto, unless it's a once blooming rose, which you
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: prune after it's done flowering.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Which you're already too late anyways, right, right, But don't worry.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: In that case, you would let it come up and
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: bloom now in the spring.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: And now in the spring is May and quarterly the
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: end of May, and then after it bloom you would
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: cut it. But it's probably never blooming rose, I would guess, Kevin.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: So yeah, just wait till till the snow melts and
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: then pruna.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: And also do you even need to prune it, like
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: is there a need? Like requirements roses, we've talked about
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: this that you know, nobody cares you didn't if you
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: just didn't.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Prune it cemetery roses, what would be the problem.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Well, if you go to any landscape in the world,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: they don't have pruners out there. Yeah, yeah, I mean
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: it depends. There's reasons to prune and reasons not to
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: prun it. If you don't, I should just be right
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: to prune.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Right. But the less you pruna rose, the more flowers
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: you get. And we're going to take a break on
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: that note. Hey, there's more to it. There is more
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: roses to prune or not to prune. Stay with us
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: break for biz Talk Radio. This is Facebook Live as
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: well Brian Main, John Begnascar, Tucker Pela Fox back after
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: these messages on biz Talk Radio. Alrighty have returned from
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: the break. And just prior to the break here on
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Guard in America, John was discussing pruning roses, whether to
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: prune not to prune. Kevin with his rose hips and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: quarterline Idaho. So let's pick it up from there.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, why do people prune roses?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Shot them? Well, it depends.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: If you grow hybrid tea roses, those are usually grown
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: for cutting, right, Yep, normal people would grow them for that.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Collectors are not normal people. They just want to have
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: it right, They just want to have it. But you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: want long stems that you can put in a vase.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: So what you do is cut those down every year.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: You want to encourage new basel brakes, which is a
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: new stem that comes up from the base. But those
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: will come out with long stems and a.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Bloom on the top.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: So if you don't prune those, you end up with
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: really weak stems and a bunch of flowers on the top,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: which is fine for color, but you know, not so
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: good for the plant.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I learned about basil breaks this morning, tiger. Did you
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: a basil break?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: What about time or regno breaks?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: You have to think about that one. I like basil breaks.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: It makes you sound really smart.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: What would be another reason why you have to prune? Like,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: what if there is a lot of dead growth on
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: the plant?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No? No, yeah. You want to prone out dead growth.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: You want to keep the plant rejuvenated. So when you
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: get old woody stems, cut those out. Even on climbing roses,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: you know, I always want to keep fresh growth. So
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: once the stem is three or four years old, you
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: may want to just cut it out at the base.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: I'm always amazed by roses because you can have completely rotted,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: dead parts of the plant, but then you could have
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: very much a live, vigorous parts of the plant too,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: you know what i mean, all on the same rows.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: You can have these arts that are almost like decaying
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: off of it, and then you get to yeah, and
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: it's it's amazing that they still will produce on that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: that a live part kind of a thing. Yeah, So Kevin,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: don't worry, You're you're good. Yeah, prune probably for him,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: what do you say, prune and april? Is that we
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: determined for him.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: End of April, end of April, maybe maybe mid April.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: It depends.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: And that's a nice thing about living in an area
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: where it's cold, is there's also a little bit of
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: self pruning that happens.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: I usually just say after the snow melts. Yeah, prune
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: after the last snowfall.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And you do run the race, especially with some plants,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: if you prune too early, because sometimes it's nice to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: leave that old, hearty growth on a plant through the winter,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: through the cold, through all that. Because if you prune
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: it early, then that's more exposed to those elements.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: So Kevin has a little complaint, Brian, Brian, He says
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: that the show's going way too fast today. Can you
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: slow it down?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do that.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: Here, let me dial it down.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Added a little quote there. I didn't think growing old
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: would come so soon.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Don't all? I added an extra five minutes. I didn't
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: know growing old would come so soon.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Is it getting to be too late to plant winter
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: vegetables in southern California?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: I would say in the inland area, is yes, because
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: I have a feeling this year we're not going to
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: have that. This is just my own feeling, there's really
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: nothing behind it, but I have a feeling that come
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: May we're going to start having like those hot days inland.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: I think along the coast though, you still have time,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: you know, in some of the cool areas, or if
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: you have a cool area of the yard, or some.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Of the quick growing crops, right, you can plant let
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: us with no problem. Oh yeah, put put in lettuce, uh, bratishes,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: of course.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Bradishes in two weeks.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Well it'll be up in two days probably. But yeah,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: you're only looking at thirty days before you're picking radishes.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: So I think Tiger's saying is, come, what may I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: think that.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: I think that we're going to have a hot season soon,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: and that's why I'm saying it's too late for most people.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: But when you say that, then would that be followed
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: by maybe more cool weather? No, you're thinking may, it's
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: going to pick up right on through the summer. Yes, wow, Yes,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: that's a long time. Oh, I know, and we're gonna
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: feel it this year. I have a feeling you just
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: dread this morning.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Last year. Last year was rough because we had rough
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: we had a late ring, right, but look at how
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: long it lasted. Yeah, you know, we had dry, hot
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: weather Christmas. Yeah, I mean all that time, you know,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: And I always look at I can always base my
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: feelings of the dry hot weather in the winter because
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: in Christmas, for doing a Christmas tree lot, we have
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: two things to battle. One is keeping the trees fresh
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: and damp so they don't dry out quickly.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: And then the other thing is that's because you bring
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: them in in Halloween though, yeah exactly.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: But the other thing is we have to be prepared
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: for rain because you know, I mean, we're operating a
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: tree lot. We have chainsaws, we have things that we
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: need to. We still need to work in the rain
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: if it does rain, right, But then at the same time,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: we put up all these tents and all this stuff,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: and sometimes it doesn't rain, and so we didn't use
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: the tents at all.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: This sense too, it isse and.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: We didn't use the tents at all this year because
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: it never rain. It never was cool through this whole week.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Now, are we gonna pick up with more rain soon
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: or not? No?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: I no rain.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: That's my prediction is he's Tiger's saying, that was it?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed it. Then well, then if that's
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the case, we're all in trouble because if not just
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: the heat, it's the lack of rain with the upcoming heat,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: because it's not enough to get into the ground. Yeah
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: I think we got into the ground. Yeah yeah, but yeah,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: but but and in terms of that, we don't have anymore.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna last that long.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: We also are they up north got a lot of rain,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: so they are they'll ship it all down to us.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: Sure they will problem at all.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Well, sure are water with you.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: But I but I don't think it's going to be hot.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: I don't think this summer is going to be hot either.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: I think it'll be dry, but I don't think it's
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: going to be hot, So I don't think you have
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: to worry about the.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Heats over here. I think he's been reading the Farmers.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: I have exactly Benjamin Franklin, what do you got for
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: a John?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Tanya says that she got distracted, So if she apologizes
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: if this was mentioned, okay, I'm surprised she wasn't taking notes.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Don't most of our listeners have a pad and paper?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Eighty six eighty six percent? Okay, she says on her
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: iceberg roses, should she cut them back now like other roses. Yeah, now,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: you can go ahead and cut them back, but you
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: don't cut them back icebergs unless they're too tall. You
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: don't have to cut back as far. Especially with icebergs,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: you know, they're almost like I think they're classified maybe
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: as a Flora bunda, but it's more like a hybrid musk.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: So the less cutting on them, the more flowers you're
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: going to get. So yeah, if you need them short,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: cut them shorter. But anytime now, the middle of March,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: that's a good time to prune. If you're in northern California.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: They're a tough plant too, because they're they're a heavy feeder.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: Because they do grow so much, so much, so quickly
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: and produce so many flowers. They always have that kind
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: of like yellow ye tinge to the foliage, and then
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: they don't get real thick stems, you know, like John
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: was talking about hid and teas and developing those those
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: nice stems. They just always have kind of like a
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: real thin stem that no matter how you prune it,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: you end up with those and then the plant gets
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: a little floppy.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Lyla mentions, she hopes you're right, because last year there
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: was make gray and June gloom.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it did not get hot.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: No, no, but even when it does get hot, don't
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: we usually have make gray in June gloom?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but it's later on. It seemed to heat.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Seems to pick up like July on. Yeah, for the
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: most part. Right, September October is still very hot.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: September October, yeah, they usually are hottest months. I think
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: so definitely September. I think October is that fringe months
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: sometimes that it is. Sometimes it's not, you know, because
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: they have the san Anna's through October.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: So Leonara and Canyon Country says it's going to be
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: very hot.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: She does. That's because she lives in an area.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, always very not only is it cold, but very
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: very hot where she is.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like somebody in Palm Springs mentioning it's going to
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: be very Yeah, we had didn't Palm Springs.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Have record heat this year?
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  Speaker 4: Did they?
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  Speaker 3: What's it like the one d eighteen one hundred twenty?
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  Speaker 4: I think it did, right.
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  Speaker 2: I guess death very hot?
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, like that was it?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 4: I think I think Death Valley's record was like one thirty.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly right, Okay, And I think it hit one
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  Speaker 4: thirty this year this past year or like one twenty
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  Speaker 4: nine in Palm Springs was right there too, John, I
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  Speaker 4: think they hit their mark as far as the hottest
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  Speaker 4: or they were like real close to it.
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  Speaker 2: It's break time. One more segment, guys. Kevin was right.
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  Speaker 2: I dowbed it back five minutes and still flying right by,
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  Speaker 2: so stayed with us. One more break. One more segment
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  Speaker 2: to break for bistalk Radio or friends at Fertilum. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for tuning in to guard the married. Right around
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  Speaker 2: the last furlong. To borrow a horse racing term, John,
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  Speaker 2: you know the rain's over.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go home and start working in my garden again.
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  Speaker 2: Got a lot to do. I noticed the weeds.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we've been talking about roses. I noticed that
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  Speaker 3: I was cleaning the weeds out of the can so
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  Speaker 3: of the miniature roses, and I noticed they're.
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  Speaker 2: All putting new growth though. Oh yeah, some new stems are.
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  Speaker 3: Probably like six to ten inches already.
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  Speaker 4: Oh wow, you mentioned fertil on before the break in.
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  Speaker 4: This is a great time of year to put in
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  Speaker 4: the humic acid, you know. You know, we've talked about
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  Speaker 4: that before. The humic products. Human acid into the soil
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  Speaker 4: just helps invigorate it. But it's easy to do during
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  Speaker 4: the rainy time of year, the season. It's not like
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  Speaker 4: a fertilizer that's wasteful. It's still as good. You can
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  Speaker 4: put it in anytime.
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  Speaker 3: I thought weed pres Do they have a garden weed
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  Speaker 3: preventer that you can sprinkle?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a pre emergent, Yeah, yes, they do. John Now
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  Speaker 4: pre emergence. You know, these are a funny thing because
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  Speaker 4: they don't allow weeds. They don't allow seeds to Germany, right,
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  Speaker 4: so they don't kill weeds, but they don't they stop
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  Speaker 4: the production of seeds. They you know, the the problematic
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  Speaker 4: weeds that grow from seed. They stop that cycle. And
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  Speaker 4: have you used that at all in your garden yet,
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  Speaker 4: because you want some seed production too. Some of yours
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  Speaker 4: are like wildflowers, right or no, you're like, I would
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  Speaker 4: love to get rid of them all. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, I on the hillside where I'm putting mulches, I
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  Speaker 3: plant things. Yes, I'm putting the weed preventer under the mulch.
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  Speaker 3: Oh nice, sprinkling it under there, then putting the mulch
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  Speaker 3: on top. And areas where Iceland poppies have germinated, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going around them so they'll be fine. But
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  Speaker 3: the annual African daisies, yes, that you're talking about. I
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  Speaker 3: just said, you know, if if they don't come.
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  Speaker 4: Up, you're fine with them not coming right, you've seen that.
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  Speaker 3: I think you've seen that hillside when it was like
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  Speaker 3: weeds maybe four to six feet tall. Yes, you couldn't
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  Speaker 3: even walk through there anyway. Done with that, Brian, I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to make sure that everything's nice and.
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  Speaker 2: Neat, and he's got for our spring party.
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  Speaker 4: He's got, you know, the areas that he mulched. It
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  Speaker 4: has really done a good job of keeping the weeds
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  Speaker 4: down so far, you know, it's really good. Now, could
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  Speaker 4: you put the weed preventer the wait? Why can I?
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  Speaker 4: What can I think of it?
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  Speaker 2: The name? Like?
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  Speaker 4: What is what do they call the weed prevented products?
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  Speaker 2: Prene No?
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, prene is the other emergent pre emergent emergent
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  Speaker 4: Okay in the mulch, like meaning like because sometimes weeds
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  Speaker 4: will weed seeds will fall in the mulch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what if that does happen, those
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  Speaker 3: are real easy to pull out because the roots haven't
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  Speaker 3: gone down down. I think that a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: chemicals that are pre emergents also will kill small germinating plants.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if they all work. There's also some
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  Speaker 3: natural ones like corn gluten.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, corn gluten.
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  Speaker 3: My own personal opinion is it's just a waste, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: because they only last for thirty days and you've got
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  Speaker 3: to keep replying them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I definitely want to get the ones that say
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  Speaker 4: like three months.
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  Speaker 3: Three months, yeah, or I've been putting down six months.
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  Speaker 4: Wow. You know those ones are definitely killing little weeks.
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  Speaker 4: You might want to watch some shrubs.
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  Speaker 3: I've also been shrubs without digging up some roses and
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  Speaker 3: moving them to that hillside from an area where I
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  Speaker 3: really neglected them.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, then.
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  Speaker 4: It's there's a little remorse in his face right there.
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  Speaker 2: I saw.
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  Speaker 3: It's a long sorry. I'm not going to go into
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  Speaker 3: it right now.
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  Speaker 4: You feel a little sorry for that plant, But I
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  Speaker 4: do feel good when it takes off after you plant
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  Speaker 4: it and take care of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know what, it's on the verge of
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  Speaker 3: death and you can salvage it and bring it back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is bad, but as a kid, we
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  Speaker 3: used to go down to the end of the street
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  Speaker 3: on the honeysuckle bushes and catch bumble bees and honey
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  Speaker 3: bees and a jar.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we did that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you would then we would take them
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  Speaker 3: and we'd fill the jar with water and almost drown them.
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  Speaker 3: But then we would dump them out on the ground
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  Speaker 3: and put them in the hospital let them recoup.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, but you were eighteen years old when you
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  Speaker 2: did that. It's like, no, not a Jeffrey Dahmer in
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  Speaker 2: the max.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what you're doing to your roses.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, it's the same type of thing, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just so happy.
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  Speaker 3: Right exactly right now with all the bees we had
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  Speaker 3: this fall, they just naturally were going in my bird bath,
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  Speaker 3: and and I would every day have to go out
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  Speaker 3: and get a little stick, and you know, say, you know, hey,
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  Speaker 3: just drink from the edge, don't go swimming.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, little lessons that you put little life reservers
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  Speaker 4: in the bird bath.
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  Speaker 2: Had little little places they can grab onto to get out.
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  Speaker 3: Paula wants to know the name of that pre emergent
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: that purd Lom has.
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  Speaker 4: Let me see I can find real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Did we sponsor this silence?
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't get I was just thinking you couldn't get
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  Speaker 3: Dana to respond to defend herself on the on the
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  Speaker 3: on the feeding the birds, on feeding the birds and
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  Speaker 3: the squirrels. But she did pipe in with a shame
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  Speaker 3: on you John.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Danna, you weren't around when we talked about all
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  Speaker 2: the birds that you feed in the patio, the squirrel
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  Speaker 2: tarpie and the kind of seeds that you buy, what
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: kind of seeds, what kind of birds? Because we thought
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: you would respond to that. But then she chimes in with,
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  Speaker 2: shame on you, John for having those tendencies. Hey, we've
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: got about a minute ago and that's it, guys. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Gallery Gallery Gallery.
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  Speaker 4: Is the one that they gallery.
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  Speaker 3: This is coming a shaker camp bag bag.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah so uh. And then they have ones that you
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  Speaker 4: can put in like your lawns that you know, the
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  Speaker 4: weed and feed products as well, and dollar weed control.
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  Speaker 4: Do you do we have dollar weed here?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: No, that's like a Texas thing, right yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Uh, pre emerging crabgrass control in southern
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  Speaker 3: California needs to go down right now.
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  Speaker 2: You better do it by two o'clock this afternoon, if
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  Speaker 2: not earlier. We gotta go. We gotta say goodbye. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you so much. It was a quick show, even though
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  Speaker 2: Kevin had me down back in by five minutes or so.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your weekend. We are back next
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  Speaker 2: week for sure. We're right back in the studio for
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