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Body Bags: The Murder of the Amato Family · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Body Backs with Joseph Scott Morgan. You work hard all
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Speaker 1: your life, you raise a family, three boys. You're coming
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Speaker 1: to the end of your career. You're looking forward to retirement.
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Speaker 1: You've been sweating away in central Florida all these years,
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Speaker 1: and you decide to buy a retirement home up in
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Speaker 1: the mountains of Tennessee. You've got your eyes set on
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Speaker 1: the prize, and suddenly one day your life comes to
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Speaker 1: swift and violent end at the hand of your own child. Today,
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the Mask of the a
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Speaker 1: Motto family and their son Grant a Motto. I'm Joseph
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan and this his Body Backs Back with me
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Speaker 1: today is Jackie Howard, executive producer of Crime Stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Jackie tell us about the strategy. Joe Grant
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Speaker 1: a Motto is a twenty nine year old nurse and
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Speaker 1: he is accused of killing his family members at their home.
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Speaker 1: The reason is an obsession with a Bulgarian webcam model
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Speaker 1: that he met as a result of his addiction to
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Speaker 1: online porn. He had stolen two hundred thousand dollars from
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Speaker 1: his family to pay this online model. The police investigation
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Speaker 1: into the Amoto family began after a coworker called police
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Speaker 1: when Cody A. Mootto had not come into work. The
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Speaker 1: deputies circled the Amoto home and inside about nine am,
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Speaker 1: they found three people dead. According to Grant's arrest, Warren
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Speaker 1: aff A, David chat Amotto, his dad, was found dead
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Speaker 1: in the kitchen of their home, Cody A. Motto was
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Speaker 1: killed in a storage room, and Margaret Amatto, his mom,
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Speaker 1: was found shot dead in an office chair. Police officers
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Speaker 1: say Cody and Margaret Amatto suffered execution style wounds. Of
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Speaker 1: that money that was stolen from his family, the two
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars sixty thousand dollars was stolen from his
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Speaker 1: brother Cody. He also stole Cody's guns and sold them
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Speaker 1: without his permission, all to fund his obsession with this
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Speaker 1: Bulgaria model. What a Motto was doing was taking the
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Speaker 1: money that he had received or stolen from his family
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Speaker 1: and was wiring it to Bulgaria to this model. Grandamatta
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Speaker 1: was not a stupid person. You would you hear in
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Speaker 1: all of this, You would think that he didn't have
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Speaker 1: two cents in his brain to rub together. But this
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Speaker 1: kid was professionally sound to a certain degree. He was
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Speaker 1: a registered nurse. He and his brother had both graduated
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Speaker 1: from nur in school and he, you know, just prior
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Speaker 1: to these events, he was actually practicing as a nurse,
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Speaker 1: but his life kind of went down to this dark path.
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Speaker 1: At one point in time. He had kind of been
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Speaker 1: bulked up, was involved in weightlifting, he'd participated in airsoft competitions.
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Speaker 1: He'd loved shooting guns with his brother, and he and
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Speaker 1: his brother got along really really well. But over a
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Speaker 1: period of time, Jackie, you know, he he became very,
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Speaker 1: very diminished as he got into this world of the
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Speaker 1: sexual addiction where he's just feeding money to this woman
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Speaker 1: in Bulgaria, and you know, friends had talked about how
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Speaker 1: he almost took on almost a skeletal like appearance, eyes
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Speaker 1: were sunken back in his head. His weight had dropped precipitously,
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Speaker 1: probably lost close to fifty pounds or so, so when he,
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Speaker 1: you know, would pass her an area, he had almost
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Speaker 1: like a spectral appearance to him, and you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of ominous when he began to think about it. His brother,
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Speaker 1: Cody had actually gotten a degree as a nurse anesthetist,
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Speaker 1: and Grant had attempted to go through the same program.
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Speaker 1: But unlike his brother, he had actually flunked out of
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Speaker 1: the program. Some people say that this was the moment
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Speaker 1: in time when his life began to kind of tumble down.
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Speaker 1: He had these aspirations of becoming like a super duper millionaire,
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Speaker 1: you know, independently wealthy, and he and his brother had
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Speaker 1: planned on having matching BMW's that they would drive around in.
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Speaker 1: And you know, they were going to live in this
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Speaker 1: house that their parents had down in Florida, and the
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Speaker 1: parents were going to retire to Tennessee. As a matter
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Speaker 1: of fact, they had already targeted home up there that
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Speaker 1: they were going to move into. So it's it's all
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Speaker 1: a bunch of tragic circumstances that led to these fatal events, Jackie.
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Speaker 1: We know that the surviving brother, Jason Amato, told police
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Speaker 1: that Grant Amato had spent about two weeks out of
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Speaker 1: facility getting treated for depression. Grant Amato was actually enrolled
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Speaker 1: in a sixty day treatment pro Graham four Internet and
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Speaker 1: sex addiction, but he only completed about two weeks of
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Speaker 1: that program before he came home. According to the testimony
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Speaker 1: from Grant a Motto, he was an unheated argument with
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Speaker 1: his father and got kicked out of the home because
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Speaker 1: he did not cut off communication with the Bulgarian model
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Speaker 1: as advised and instructed by his family. My question to you,
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Speaker 1: Joe is, obviously, these parents are not forensic specialists and
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Speaker 1: would not have been looking at it with this critical
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Speaker 1: of an eye as you do. But should there have
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Speaker 1: been things that they noticed or maybe they did and
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Speaker 1: that's what led to this? Well, yeah, you know, you
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Speaker 1: talk about forensics, and you often have students, you know,
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Speaker 1: ask me, you know, well, professor Morgan, would what should
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Speaker 1: I do? In forensics? And one of the biggest growing
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Speaker 1: areas to the largest areas in forensic practice are actually
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Speaker 1: forensic computer science and forensic accounting, and certainly that came
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Speaker 1: into play in this case. Jackie. I mean, can you
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Speaker 1: can you even begin to fathom seeing your bank accounts
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Speaker 1: literally drained away? I think that it was close to
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Speaker 1: the actual dollar specific dollar amount, it's like one hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars, and that was just liquidity of
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Speaker 1: cash that was that was drawn away. And then I
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Speaker 1: think that there was a loan that had been taken
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Speaker 1: out on the family home for an arrangement about sixty
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Speaker 1: thousand and then in addition to that, Grant had swiped
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Speaker 1: in excess of ten thousand dollars from his brother, so
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Speaker 1: we're we're above two hundred thousand dollars at this point
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Speaker 1: in time. So you know, when you're piecing this together
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Speaker 1: from a forensic standpoint, you know everything, everything you know
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Speaker 1: has a contact back in time. With an investigation. You
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Speaker 1: look for these little points of connection all the way
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Speaker 1: through the forensic narrative, and so you would when you're
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Speaker 1: piecing this together, you try to match up the narrative
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Speaker 1: of what you're hearing as an investigator with the cold
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Speaker 1: heart facts. And if you can look at the numbers,
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Speaker 1: and there are very specific numbers here, you can kind
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Speaker 1: of see this drain. If you put it on a graft,
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Speaker 1: you can see this kind of downward tumble that was
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Speaker 1: taking place. Now in addition to this, let's keep in
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Speaker 1: mind Grant a Motto, was not hopping on a plane
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Speaker 1: and flying to Eastern Europe. He was doing all of this.
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Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that he was in contact with this
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Speaker 1: cam model via the internet. So every time, every time
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Speaker 1: he would engage with her, there is actually a digital
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Speaker 1: footprint that's left behind. And one more interesting thing I
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Speaker 1: found about this, you know, when we begin to talk
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Speaker 1: about electronic forensics and how this kind of sex trade
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Speaker 1: works like this, in order to facilitate this kind of
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Speaker 1: on camera session that he would have with her, he
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Speaker 1: had to purchase these digital coins, if you will, And
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Speaker 1: there's even evidence that he had purchased roughly six hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars worth of these coins just prior to what they
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Speaker 1: believe or the deaths, the murders of his family members.
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Speaker 1: And that goes to tell you how obsessed he was
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Speaker 1: in this world that he had kind of buried himself into.
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Speaker 1: During the course of my career, I've walked into many
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Speaker 1: scenes where there have been multiple desks, but I don't
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Speaker 1: know that there is anything that kind of literally rips
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Speaker 1: my heart out. Then walking into a blood soaked environment
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Speaker 1: where a family has almost literally been completely wiped out,
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Speaker 1: and in the case of the Motto family, save the
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Speaker 1: perpetrator and the brother that was not at the house,
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Speaker 1: that's basically what happened. Jackie Grant a Motto is accused
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Speaker 1: of shooting his father first in the kitchen and then
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Speaker 1: killing his mother and brother execution style. What does that mean?
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Speaker 1: What makes a murder and execution style death classically, when
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Speaker 1: we begin to think about execution style homicides, what we're
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Speaker 1: talking about is the perpetrator being in a dominant position
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Speaker 1: over the victim. And generally the individual that is shot
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Speaker 1: will either be in a seated position below the level
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Speaker 1: of a standing perpetrator, they'll be kneeling, they'll be laying.
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Speaker 1: That is the victim I'm referring to. And in this
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Speaker 1: particular case, when you see the mother, Margaret, she is
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Speaker 1: actually positioned at her desk, Jackie. And if folks at
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Speaker 1: home will feel on the back of their head, there's
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Speaker 1: a little protuberant area on the back of your skull
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Speaker 1: that's called the occiput. And if you'll put your hand
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Speaker 1: to the right side of the midline, that's actually where
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Speaker 1: Margaret's entrance was. And that gunshot wound that she sustained
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Speaker 1: is a classic execution style gunshot. It passes through the
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Speaker 1: right occiput. That b very bony structure is very thick.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it's one of the thickest
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Speaker 1: bones of the skull, and it goes from right to
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Speaker 1: left and it actually comes out below her left eye.
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Speaker 1: It exits out of the cheek. In my estimation, she
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Speaker 1: probably never knew what happened, and it's it's an interesting thing.
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Speaker 1: I was kind of contemplating this. How many times had
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Speaker 1: her child grant walked into her office space in that
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Speaker 1: area and she thinks nothing of it. I mean, she's
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Speaker 1: sitting there, she might hear the click of his heels
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Speaker 1: on the floor, you know, approaching from the rear. She
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Speaker 1: feels safe in this environment, and you would feel safe,
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Speaker 1: this is your home, and then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if your brain can calculate hearing
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Speaker 1: the sound as you're shot in this primal area of
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Speaker 1: the brain that causes everything to shut down. You know,
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Speaker 1: people always ask when you know, is this an instantaneous death?
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Speaker 1: This is probably about as close as you can have
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Speaker 1: to an instantaneous event, because you're you're knocking out the
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Speaker 1: primal brain center. This is passing through most likely at
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Speaker 1: least the top aspect of the brain stem, taking up
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Speaker 1: the cerebellum, and then you know, crossing over the middlene
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Speaker 1: of the brain and then exiting out of the face.
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Speaker 1: It's it's very horrific, but in her case, it was
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Speaker 1: very very quick. When you consider Dad, this is Chad.
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Speaker 1: He was found in an adjacent area, adjacent to the
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Speaker 1: kitchen and this sort of thing. He also had gunshot
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Speaker 1: wounds to the back of his head on the right
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Speaker 1: aspect as well. So that gives you when you begin
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Speaker 1: to look at entrance wounds and examine them, not only
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Speaker 1: are you getting an idea of the position of the victim,
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Speaker 1: you're also getting an idea of the position of the perpetrator.
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Speaker 1: So if you will just imagine that in this case,
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Speaker 1: grant Amato would have been to the right rear of
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Speaker 1: his father, because, as it turns out, there was actually
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Speaker 1: two two gunshot wounds to his dad's head. And one
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Speaker 1: of these, and this is quite gruesome when you begin
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Speaker 1: to think about it, one of these actually clipped through
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Speaker 1: the right aspect the rear aspect of his head, came out,
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Speaker 1: went back in through his ear, and then back into
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Speaker 1: his head. And then wait wait, wait, wait wait wait,
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Speaker 1: say that again. It did the bullet. What was the
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Speaker 1: trajectory of the bullet. Yeah, what you're talking about is
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Speaker 1: and many times you'll see this, Jackie. You will have
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Speaker 1: these cases where you'll have an entrance, then an exit,
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Speaker 1: and then a re entrance, and then finally you may
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Speaker 1: have another exit and it's all the same bullet that
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Speaker 1: is creating this cavity in the brain. And interestingly enough,
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Speaker 1: you know, when the forensic pathologist, doctor Jones, actually testified
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Speaker 1: in this case at a trial, the prosecution was asking
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Speaker 1: her questions, how exactly do you track these wounds? And
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Speaker 1: this is something we do in the Morgan. This is
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Speaker 1: kind of fascinating when we have multiple gunshot wounds, particularly
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Speaker 1: that are so close together, like in the case of
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Speaker 1: chatter Motto. We'll use what are referred to as dowel
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Speaker 1: rods that you can buy at any large box store
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Speaker 1: or home depot, you know, Blows or Walmart, and they're
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Speaker 1: wooden dowels, and we have tiny ones in the morgue
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Speaker 1: and we can actually pass these through the defect that's
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Speaker 1: created by the projectile, and it will give you an
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Speaker 1: idea of the of the trajectory of the round if
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Speaker 1: it travels from above to below or from below to above,
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Speaker 1: and also the directionality if it goes from right to
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Speaker 1: left or left to right, or if it just stays
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Speaker 1: right straight straight away down the middle line. And when
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Speaker 1: you do this, it's kind of odd when you think
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Speaker 1: about it, but it's as a demonstration tool, particularly when
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Speaker 1: you go to court if you have these dowal rods
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Speaker 1: in place with multiple gunshot wounds, and you've got tracks
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Speaker 1: that are criss crossing one another, and it makes it
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Speaker 1: highly complex. When you put these static little pieces of
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Speaker 1: wood in there and they're projecting in and out of
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Speaker 1: the body and you snap a photograph of that, Suddenly
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Speaker 1: the jury gets an instantaneous picture of the relationship between
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Speaker 1: the shooter and the victim. And that's powerful stuff when
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Speaker 1: you're a jury member and say, you're not used to
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Speaker 1: seeing this sort of thing, and lord knows who in
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Speaker 1: the world would be, particularly in a case like this
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Speaker 1: that's just absolute pure butchery, But it orients them to
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Speaker 1: that space and time and the orientation between Grant in
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Speaker 1: his father's head when he executed. So let's talk a
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Speaker 1: little bit about each crime scene, because we have three.
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Speaker 1: We have the kitchen, we have the room that the
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Speaker 1: mother was in in the office chair, and a storage room.
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Speaker 1: Would you not have heard the shots being fired? For
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Speaker 1: the damn, I mean, the mother and the father were
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Speaker 1: home at the same time, So would you not have
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Speaker 1: heard the shot that killed the father? You know, that's
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Speaker 1: a fantastic question. Jackie and I have to tell you,
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Speaker 1: I think that, in my estimation at least, I don't
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Speaker 1: think you could pull this off with all three of
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Speaker 1: these individuals in the house at the same time. I
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Speaker 1: think he laid in wait and kind of worked this
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Speaker 1: out systematically. In my opinion, The mother is in a
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Speaker 1: very static position, Jackie. When you see and I've seen
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Speaker 1: these crime scene images and they are absolutely horrible, the
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Speaker 1: mom is just kind of in a very RESTful position.
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Speaker 1: There's no evidence of struggle or twisting about her this
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Speaker 1: sort of thing. She is literally laying forward, pitched for it,
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Speaker 1: if you will, And that's that's a pretty accurate term,
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Speaker 1: pitched for it on the surface of this desk. The dad, however,
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Speaker 1: is laying in what we refer to as a supine position,
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Speaker 1: and that's kind of fancy talk for laying face up.
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Speaker 1: And what's so interesting about this is that when he
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Speaker 1: is observed at the scene, Jackie, one of the investigators
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Speaker 1: that was out there, noted that even though he is
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Speaker 1: face up, there's an indication Jackie, that he had been moved.
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Speaker 1: He had been moved post mortem. And the way that
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Speaker 1: we determine that is that when a body is laying
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Speaker 1: in a specific position dead blood will settle to a
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Speaker 1: particular area. Okay. So let's just say, for instance, someone
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Speaker 1: is like mister Amato, was lying on his stomach. Okay,
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Speaker 1: blood will settle to his chest, to his antior chest,
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Speaker 1: and to his ab maybe two his thighs. He'll have
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Speaker 1: points of contact that will be blanched out, and that
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Speaker 1: blood is going to settle to those areas in fix.
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Speaker 1: Remember their bodies weren't found to the next day. But
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Speaker 1: if you manipulate that body in any way, which we
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Speaker 1: believe happened with Chad, you will still have this anterior
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Speaker 1: or frontal presentation of lavidity, but it'll be absent on
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Speaker 1: the back. And that's one of the things we look
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Speaker 1: for to see if a scene has particularly been staged,
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Speaker 1: and the term staging came up over and over and
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Speaker 1: over again, that he tried to make this case or
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Speaker 1: try to make the scene appear different. And one a
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Speaker 1: very interesting element with Chad's body is the fact that
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Speaker 1: he was wearing a holstered weapon. Can you imagine that
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Speaker 1: he's wearing a holstered weapon on his belt in his home,
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Speaker 1: and it's oddly positioned. It's on his right side, but
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Speaker 1: it's turned so that the butt of the weapon is
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Speaker 1: facing forward, so you would that's called a cross draw
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Speaker 1: configuration where an individual, you think about an old Cowboy
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Speaker 1: movie where a gunfighter would reach across their body and
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Speaker 1: pull the weapon out safer left handed. You pull it
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Speaker 1: from your right hip and hold it in your left hand.
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Speaker 1: But here's the twist. Chad's right handed, but yet this
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Speaker 1: oddly positioned weapon is positioned on his right hand, so
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Speaker 1: that if he had to draw that weapon, he would
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Speaker 1: have had to literally twist his arm around at the
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Speaker 1: elbow in order to facilitate that. And that's another indication
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Speaker 1: that this happened after death. They believed that Grant probably
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Speaker 1: moved the body around in an attempt to strap this
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Speaker 1: weapon onto his dad. And again another just odd ball
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Speaker 1: set of circumstances when you get to Cody's body, the
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Speaker 1: brother and this is this is so sad, you know,
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Speaker 1: because Cody and Grant were very close. And I remember
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Speaker 1: watching this trial and you can see Grant sitting at
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Speaker 1: the table and just weeping when they're talking about his
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Speaker 1: brother that he shot. And you know, we talked about
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Speaker 1: execution with mom and dad. With Cody Jackie, he shot
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Speaker 1: his brother in the face and What that tells us
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Speaker 1: is that he was to ie with his brother, who
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Speaker 1: was roughly a year and a half to two years
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Speaker 1: older than him, a kid that he had grown up with,
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Speaker 1: that they participated in the air soft with, they'd gone
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Speaker 1: hunting with, they'd done martial arts, they traveled to Japan together.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine you're there with your sibling and you
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Speaker 1: were so obsessed, you're so obsessed with this sexual addiction
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Speaker 1: that you have to this person that lives in eastern Europe,
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Speaker 1: that you would take a handgun and pointed at your
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Speaker 1: own brother's face and kill him. And that's what he did.
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Speaker 1: He shot him right below his right eye, and that bullet,
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Speaker 1: that bullet traveled through his brother's head and knocked him
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Speaker 1: down to the ground. He standing there, he had just
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Speaker 1: gotten home from work. Jackie was still wearing you know,
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Speaker 1: his brother's a nurse as well. He's still wearing his
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Speaker 1: green scrub suit. And even his lunch box. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's one of those insulated lunch boxes like that zip
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Speaker 1: you know that you can pack all. It was laying
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Speaker 1: immediately adjacent to his brother, and in another attempt to
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Speaker 1: stage a crime scene, he had taken a weapon and
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Speaker 1: laid it immediately adjacent to his brother's hand, and investigators
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Speaker 1: believe that Grant had done this in an attempt to
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Speaker 1: make this look like a murder suicide, that his brother
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Speaker 1: had walked in the house, shot his mom and dad,
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Speaker 1: and then took his own life. And you know the
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Speaker 1: problem with that when you begin to look at it
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Speaker 1: out of all of the suicides. And I think I've
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Speaker 1: said this before, but it bears repeating. You know, as
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Speaker 1: medical legal death investigators, you think that, oh boy. You
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Speaker 1: know you work at the Corner's office, the medical examin
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Speaker 1: You work a lot of homicides. You know, suicides actually
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Speaker 1: outnumber homicides probably too, probably three to one actually, so
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Speaker 1: we work a lot more suicides. I don't recall. In
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Speaker 1: the course of my career, I can probably count on one,
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Speaker 1: maybe two hands, how many cases I've worked of self
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Speaker 1: inflicted gunshot wounds where people shot themselves in the face. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's just an aid. It's what we call an atypical
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Speaker 1: gunshot wound. It doesn't fit the pattern. It's more consistent.
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Speaker 1: And and here's here's the even bigger problem. When the
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Speaker 1: forensic pathologists was describing these injuries, you know, she's she's
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Speaker 1: relating the fact that this um that this was not
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Speaker 1: a close contact gunshot wound. So again that would mean
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Speaker 1: him holding the weapon away from his face in order
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Speaker 1: to shoot himself in the face. Cases like this that
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Speaker 1: involve a lot of trauma, there's a lot of blood there.
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Speaker 1: For the investigators people at work in my field of
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Speaker 1: medical legal death investigation, it's very difficult to kind of
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Speaker 1: make your way through these scenes. First off, you're worrying
22:21
Speaker 1: about the complexity of it, how you can cross contaminate things,
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Speaker 1: how you're going to destroy your evidence. And I gotta
22:29
Speaker 1: tell you this case, the Amouto case, stands out to
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Speaker 1: me because it is so very complex that these investigators
22:37
Speaker 1: would have really have had to take their time in
22:39
Speaker 1: processing this scene. Jackie well, especially considering that they had
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Speaker 1: three scenes to process. So I'm wondering, Joe, in looking
22:47
Speaker 1: at how this was staged. You have each victim in
22:52
Speaker 1: a separate room, and as you said, it was thought
22:55
Speaker 1: that these individuals were killed one at a time. The
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Speaker 1: dad was killed first in the kitchen, the mom must
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Speaker 1: have come home and not gone into the kitchen, and
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Speaker 1: the brother was found in a storage room. I'm curious
23:07
Speaker 1: about the storage room. How do we get the brother
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Speaker 1: to go to the storage room? Was it in the garage?
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Speaker 1: I mean, how do we keep the brother from not
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Speaker 1: going through the house and discovering what's going on? Was
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Speaker 1: this planned or was this a crime of passion and
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Speaker 1: opportunity for it to happen that way? I think that
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Speaker 1: this was plan Jackie, and I you know, I'll go
23:29
Speaker 1: back to my earlier point that it's my belief that
23:35
Speaker 1: that he laid in wait for these individuals he knew.
23:38
Speaker 1: He kind of if you ever you know, if you
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Speaker 1: ever watched a cat that's going to spring on something,
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Speaker 1: I think that that's what he was. He was sitting
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Speaker 1: on go in the house as the opportunity presented itself,
23:50
Speaker 1: as he presented himself as stealthily as possible in this
23:54
Speaker 1: environment which he knew very well. Remember, this is his home.
23:57
Speaker 1: He knows all the blind spots, he knows the place
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Speaker 1: is to hide. He also knows the tendencies of the
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Speaker 1: people that he lived in the house with, mom, dad
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Speaker 1: and brother. And just think about it. I mean, we
24:11
Speaker 1: you know, for those of us in our audience that
24:13
Speaker 1: live with individuals, you know what the tendencies are. You
24:15
Speaker 1: know where they're going to come and go and that
24:17
Speaker 1: sort of thing. You know, they're timing, you know, when
24:19
Speaker 1: they're going to arrive at home, so he everything is
24:23
Speaker 1: stacked in his advantage. And you know, this is this
24:27
Speaker 1: is quite interesting little aside here, but you know, when
24:30
Speaker 1: you come home, home is associated with haven, it's associated
24:36
Speaker 1: with a place of safety, a place of security. So
24:40
Speaker 1: your guard is down. You know, when you walk into
24:42
Speaker 1: a home, it's not like you're turning down at dark
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Speaker 1: alley and you don't know what's down. There's someplace you've
24:46
Speaker 1: never been before. But in the context of coming home
24:50
Speaker 1: and making your way through the house, it's it's going
24:54
Speaker 1: to give you a false sense of security. So if
24:56
Speaker 1: you've got somebody that means to do you harm in
24:58
Speaker 1: this case Grant a model, then your guard will be
25:01
Speaker 1: down for that amount of time and it's easy for
25:04
Speaker 1: him to pray. And you know, and this is another thing.
25:06
Speaker 1: And when you have the familiarity you remember I was
25:09
Speaker 1: talking about the mom, how she was kind of in
25:12
Speaker 1: this relaxed position at the desk. You don't expect for
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Speaker 1: your son to kill you if your dad, same thing,
25:20
Speaker 1: And when Cody comes home, he doesn't you know, you know,
25:24
Speaker 1: his brother could approach him quite easily, and he would
25:27
Speaker 1: have his guard down. He'd just be holding his lunch
25:29
Speaker 1: box in his hand. He'd be there in his scrubs
25:31
Speaker 1: and he'd be you know, hey, bro, how you doing.
25:33
Speaker 1: And the next thing, you know, the last thing he
25:36
Speaker 1: sees is maybe a puff of smoke, and his life
25:39
Speaker 1: comes to an end. And so all of these given
25:42
Speaker 1: the close proximity of kind of the storage area that's there,
25:47
Speaker 1: which is near a point of entrance. You've got Mom
25:51
Speaker 1: that is there in her you know, in her office area,
25:55
Speaker 1: which most of us feel very safe, and then Dad
25:58
Speaker 1: to send the kitchen. Their guard is going to be
26:01
Speaker 1: down at those moments in time. What's kind of interesting
26:05
Speaker 1: about this case though, And you really have to just
26:09
Speaker 1: let me say this to you and let you wrap
26:11
Speaker 1: your brain around this. After Mom and Dad had died,
26:16
Speaker 1: Investigators estimate and just listen to this very carefully and
26:19
Speaker 1: let it sink in. Investigators estimate that Granda Motto stayed
26:25
Speaker 1: in the house with his executed parents, these individuals that
26:30
Speaker 1: had loved him, taking care of him, tolerated him through
26:35
Speaker 1: all of this nonsense that he was involved in. He
26:38
Speaker 1: stayed in that house. Jackie for four hours with their bodies.
26:41
Speaker 1: Can you Emaine staying in there as your parents lay
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Speaker 1: there on the floor and in their office area waiting,
26:51
Speaker 1: just waiting for your brother Cody to come walking through
26:54
Speaker 1: the door so that you can end his life to
26:57
Speaker 1: Another interesting aspect of this show is that, well, actually
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Speaker 1: there's more than one. Grant was a member of a
27:04
Speaker 1: competitive Aerosoft team, which means he had firearms experience. Maybe
27:10
Speaker 1: not leathal firearms experience, but to be able to win
27:14
Speaker 1: an Aerosoft competition you have to be accurate. And also,
27:19
Speaker 1: Grant a Motto, had some medical training, so he would
27:22
Speaker 1: have known the best place to shoot to kill. Yeah, right,
27:27
Speaker 1: you are, Jackie. Yeah, he was part of an airsoft team,
27:29
Speaker 1: as was his brother. I mean he had firearms proficiency
27:32
Speaker 1: in addition to airsoft proficiency. You know, airsoft proficiency, even
27:38
Speaker 1: though it's not the same as an actual firearm, it
27:41
Speaker 1: gives you. It gives you proficiency in the area of
27:45
Speaker 1: being able to aim and put put the weapon on
27:48
Speaker 1: target if you will, and moving targets, you know, because
27:51
Speaker 1: these guys run all over the place where they're doing that,
27:53
Speaker 1: And there's several images of him where he's all camoed out.
27:56
Speaker 1: You know, he's dressed, he's carrying these weapons that look
27:58
Speaker 1: like military style weapons, but their air soft weapons. But
28:01
Speaker 1: you have to keep in mind he also owned and
28:04
Speaker 1: the family did, um multiple real firearms as well. And
28:08
Speaker 1: there's even images of him out you know, fire and
28:10
Speaker 1: shot guns and all these sorts of things. So he
28:13
Speaker 1: was not uncomfortable, uncomfortable in a world of firearms. And
28:18
Speaker 1: so that that becomes kind of wrote. You know, when
28:23
Speaker 1: when you begin to think about the family coming home
28:27
Speaker 1: and him essentially ambushing him. I mean it's like he
28:29
Speaker 1: had been practicing for this for a while, um in
28:33
Speaker 1: his mind, because you know, when everything began to collapse
28:37
Speaker 1: around him. And you know, one thing I forgot to
28:39
Speaker 1: mention to you had mentioned that he was a nurse,
28:42
Speaker 1: and he was a nurse. He just he flunked out
28:44
Speaker 1: of anesthesia school, um and U. But he was a
28:49
Speaker 1: practicing nurse. But this is interesting as well, Jackie. You know,
28:53
Speaker 1: he had been caught at work, um in the Orlando area,
29:00
Speaker 1: at his job stealing h stealing a drug that is
29:06
Speaker 1: used as a sedative, what they refer to as a
29:12
Speaker 1: pre anesthesia drug. It's one of these drugs that they'll
29:14
Speaker 1: give you, you know, like I'll give you an example
29:16
Speaker 1: for anybody's ever had surgery. You know that when the
29:20
Speaker 1: nurse goes to inject your your IV line, they'll say,
29:23
Speaker 1: now you're going to feel something cold in your line,
29:26
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the world begins to
29:27
Speaker 1: get kind of milky and warm and that sort of thing.
29:30
Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of what they do before they
29:32
Speaker 1: give you the jolt of the antidual. Well, this drug,
29:35
Speaker 1: in particular, Jackie, he had stolen in excess of four
29:40
Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth these drugs, and not only had he
29:44
Speaker 1: been fired from the hospital, but they were pressing charges
29:46
Speaker 1: for grand theft in addition to this. And I think
29:49
Speaker 1: that this probably wound up in the suspension of his
29:51
Speaker 1: nursing license. So all of this was like kind of
29:54
Speaker 1: this perfect storm that was cycling about in his life.
29:59
Speaker 1: What you know, it was going to send him down
30:01
Speaker 1: in flames, and unfortunately, you know, his family wound up
30:04
Speaker 1: bearing the brunt of it. Why would he have stolen
30:08
Speaker 1: these drugs show? Is it possible that he intended to
30:11
Speaker 1: use them on his parents or maybe sell them to
30:15
Speaker 1: get more money for his webcam girlfriend? A fantastic question, Jackie,
30:20
Speaker 1: and I think that it's probably going to be the
30:23
Speaker 1: latter more than likely because and I'll tell you why.
30:27
Speaker 1: First off, there was no evidence that they had this
30:29
Speaker 1: particular drug, propafall is the name of it. There was
30:33
Speaker 1: no evidence of this in their system, and this had
30:35
Speaker 1: happened a couple of months prior to but he had
30:38
Speaker 1: been acquiring these mets. I think that there would be
30:42
Speaker 1: a higher possibility that he could have sold them. What
30:47
Speaker 1: his rationale that he gave when he was questioned wasn't
30:51
Speaker 1: I guess he viewed himself as some kind of Florence
30:53
Speaker 1: Nightingale because he presented himself to the staff and to
30:57
Speaker 1: the police. He's like, well, you know, my patient, it's
31:00
Speaker 1: on the floor or under medicated. So I wanted to
31:03
Speaker 1: assist him by injecting them with this medication in order to,
31:07
Speaker 1: I don't know, alleviate their pain or their anxiety or
31:09
Speaker 1: whatever it was. But I found that quite telling as well.
31:13
Speaker 1: This is a very dangerous environment for somebody that has
31:16
Speaker 1: this kind of proclivity, if you will, to be around
31:21
Speaker 1: really sick people and applying this very very powerful hypnotic
31:25
Speaker 1: drug that can really depress the system. I'm they're very
31:29
Speaker 1: fortunate that if he did apply it to these people,
31:32
Speaker 1: that he didn't kill them. So, you know, no one
31:35
Speaker 1: really knows what he did with a drug, but they
31:38
Speaker 1: know that the drugs were missing and they tied it
31:40
Speaker 1: back to him, and I think that that's again, this
31:44
Speaker 1: goes into this kind of pathology that he's dealing with.
31:48
Speaker 1: He was on a real downhill slide. I'm Joseph Scott
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Speaker 1: Morgan in this is Bodybacks