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Episode 4 - Geometry of Seduction: Are You a Square, Circle, or Triangle in ENM · The Bull Brotherhood

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and open -minded explorers, we see you. Let's
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go. Ladies and gentlemen, good evening, and welcome
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to another informative episode of the Bull Brotherhood
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Podcast. I'm the man with the plan, the Sigma
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male himself, Brian Morgan, along with the other.
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Members of my podcast team, the lovely Siren.
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Say hello. Hello. How you doing tonight, sweetie?
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I'm doing great. Wonderful, wonderful. And of
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course, my brother from another mother. I call
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him nephew. The man himself, Socrates. What's
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good, baby? Uncle, what's good? What's going
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on, y 'all? Excited about this episode. I can't
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call it, I can't call it. I am too, and I know
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you are especially because... Ladies and gentlemen,
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tonight we're going to be talking about a topic
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dealing with, of course, Socrates' favorite topic,
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which is ethical non -monogamy. The categories,
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well, let me tell you, the square, the circle,
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and the triangle. If I say that, what are you
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guys probably thinking about first and foremost?
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Geometry. Geometry. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.
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Well, this is like something, ladies and gentlemen,
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to think about. It's like, what is your dynamic?
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Where do you fall into this world that we live
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and love so much? The square. Think about a square,
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four sides. So when you think about four sides,
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you think about what? Four people or two couples.
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So that falls more into what? Say the swingers
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category, maybe? Yes or no. Exactly. You think
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about your circle. A circle is what? It's open
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-ended, correct? I guess I'm saying that right?
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Open. So if you are a, let's say, a stag -vixen
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couple or, yeah, let's say stag -vixen couple.
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You're pretty much open. Or probably. You're
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pretty much open to all the possibilities. Okay?
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And if you're a bull who is trying to, you know,
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get inside of that circle, you need to be pretty
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versatile. And of course, last but not least,
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the one that I gravitate to the most is the triangle.
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That's those three sides. So you have what? You
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have your bull, you have your hot wife, and you
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have your cuckold or stag. Okay, so that's what
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we're concentrating on tonight. And I like what
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Siren said, ethical non -monogamy geometry. I
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love it. So let's get started. I will pass the
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torch on to Socrates if he wants to break down
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each one of these topics a little bit more. Go
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ahead, Al. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Nephew. Yes, sir.
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Nice. I'm really excited about this, and we're
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not sure which order these episodes come in,
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but I did have a debate with my mentors and my
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brothers and my roundtable brothers on the episode,
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the first episode of The Commission, which is
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coming soon. But we were talking about the triangle
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dynamic and how our perspective on the plight
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and the concerns and issues and challenges that,
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you know, the cuckold relationship has or when
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there's a bull involved between one couple, whether
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that couple be, the male be, well, the male's
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going to be a cuckold or a stag. He's going to
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enjoy watching his wife or... enjoy his wife
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being pleased and he has a lot of compersion
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and then you're going to have the hot wife or
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the who you know obviously loves that dynamic
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and so basically what we're saying is this is
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not law or facts this is our paradigm you know
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so the bull brotherhood is about talking about
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all things ethically non -monogamous but from
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our perspective as bulls and then we have my
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lovely wife siren who wants to put you know always
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wants to go us or me we want her to give a femme
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perspective so we're going to start with the
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square so the basic principles of the square
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is equal sides right equal angles stability through
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balance and mirrored exchange right so what we're
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basically saying is you know when you're a swinker
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right there's an umbrella and we call that umbrella
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the ethical non -monogamous umbrella That means
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that everybody who believes in consent, you know,
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ethics, everyone who believes in disclosure and
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keeping everybody informed and doing the right
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thing, you're in the ethical non -monogamy umbrella.
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And under that umbrella, there's a lot of dynamics
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like swingers, polyamorous people, right? The
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cuckold dynamic, bulls, open relationships, polyamorous.
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you know, relationship, anarchy, all those things.
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People who just, anybody who doesn't believe
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that monogamy is the only way to go. So when
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it comes to the square, it's a paradigm or way
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of thinking. And the dynamics that we believe
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are under that. And yes, y 'all, as a nerd, I
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had Chad DBT do a lot of research for me. So
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y 'all know how I do. So for us, it's about swingers,
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swaps, and parallel play. Right? So siren. What
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do you think of when you think of the square
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paradigm and, you know, the whole swinger swapping
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and parallel paradigm when it comes to ethical
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non -monogamy? I just think of couples that are,
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you know, wanting to do the lifestyle 100 % together.
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They want to find another couple that they can
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vibe with and play with. And it's a four -sided
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connection. That's what I think of. What about
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you, Unc? What's your perspective on it? Here
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again, the couples got to be on the same page.
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And, you know, the square is all about the couple,
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first and foremost. As a bull, this is probably
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the dynamic that I stay away from the most. Because
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this is, you know, we feel kind of limited. Unless
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we're, like, invited into this. like say, for
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instance, invited to a party, you know, and we
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know that we're going to get there and then they're
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already waiting for, you know, for me to come
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in and say, meet somebody and, you know, have
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a good time. We feel kind of limited, feel kind
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of left out. So just like I said, this benefits
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more of those couples, you know, and what the
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Swinger Dynamics is all about more than it does
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the board. Yeah, I agree. And one of the things
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we want our listeners to know is we're not trying
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to pigeonhole you or, you know, I know some people
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don't like labels because they feel limited.
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This is not that. These are guiding principles
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to kind of help you think and process these things
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and simplify it. Look, you know, we're having
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a podcast because we believe that, you know,
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we can crank out one or two a week explaining
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the intricate details and the large, you know,
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dynamic of this lifestyle. But, you know, thinking
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of it in these squares kind of gives you a guideline,
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right? So some of the things is like it's about
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two couples engaging with each other, right?
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And when I think about it is I know swingers
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who they're going to want a unicorn to come in,
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right, and play with them. They might even, and
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a lot of times it's more about unicorns than
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single guys. But I do know this. As far as our
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dynamics, we'll talk, which we believe our dynamic
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fits under the circle paradigm. our dynamic she
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can have a guy that i'm not really vibing with
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like i don't even like or i might not think he's
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attractive you know when i'm a dude who cares
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what i think about that well i feel like swingers
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or when we went when i went through the swinger
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process it was more like okay we can bring a
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single guy in but we both have to like him we
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both have to interact with him because it's going
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to be about you two as a couple playing with
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that guy and that's not a square but it has to
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be squared in your mind, right? Let me say this,
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nephew. Usually if a couple invites you, let's
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say you're their boyfriend, they invite you to
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a swingers event, trust and believe you've already
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been vetted not only by your couple, but at least
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one or two more couples that are going to that
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event. You know what I mean? They've already
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met you. Maybe they've already played with you
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before. So you know that, hey, you got at least
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two or three couples, you know, that you're going
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to be good with at the event. If you're just
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going there just to, you know, to follow your
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girl and her husband, then like I said, you're
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probably going to be a big spectator. You're
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going to be a big spectator. You'll watch them
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or watch her. But, you know, you probably won't
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have a great time. Yep. Yeah, I agree. I agree.
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And, you know, also it's a squared paradigm because
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it's reciprocal energy, right? Like when you're
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in that phase, and a lot of times people go through
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a phase of being swingers like we did because
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it's really hard to find a four -way connection,
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right? And then even though, let's say you're
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like, okay, we're not going to look for couples.
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We're going to look for, you know, a unicorn.
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since you're not Stag and Vixen, that unicorn's
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not going to run off with the husband, right?
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You guys aren't playing separately. Usually the
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swinger or square paradigm, they want to be completely
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involved, like Siren said, really playing off
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of each other, and really it's about each individual
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making sure that their loved one is, you know,
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involved and happy with it, right? So it's like...
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When you want to make sure it's reciprocal, you
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have to concern yourself about the likes and
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dislikes and concerns and vibe for your wife
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as well as your husband or vice versa. And again,
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there's nothing wrong with that, right? One of
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the things that it is, it's often shallow but
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safe. And that's not a negative thing. It means
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like it's not poly in the sense that you don't
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go emotionally deep. It's not like Stagvixen
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arc. Our dynamic is very complicated and there's
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so many ways we can go with it. And, um, one
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of my lifestyle mentors was like, you really
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have four different dynamics. If you really drill
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down to it and we won't get into that now, but
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I agree. It also emphasizes. But you got, you
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guys haven't, haven't really identified as swingers
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for a long time. Well, we've never been, you
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know, We've only had the four -way connection
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work like once. Well, one and a half, because
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I messed up the first one. Oh, we've never had
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any repeat business with another couple. And
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maybe at parties, but maybe one or two times
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at Sapphire Club. There was one successful one,
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and I don't know if we talked about this in an
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episode. But I messed it up because of my jealousy.
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That's when I found out I was madly in love with
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this woman. Then we played with that couple,
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the other couple from the Pacific Northwest that
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we met at Sapphire. We played with them a couple
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times, but then they had their own challenges
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to work out. Nothing to do with that. Oh, yeah,
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that's right. And that was working, you know,
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okay. It wasn't 100 for me, but that's... I usually
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end up on the short end of the dick. With the
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full swap. That's why we kind of moved away from
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it because, you know, it's just challenging for
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me to get, you know, what I want and need out
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of that too. Because, you know, we want it to
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be good forever. My family, they still, you know,
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go to what I call vanilla lifestyle events, regular
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swinger events. And it's, she goes to support
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him. You know, he, he, he go, he go, he may play,
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he may not play, but usually he will play. But
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she's to the point now though, that she is strictly
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hot wife, BBC material. I mean, she, you know,
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she may go there as a dominant, um, um, bisexual,
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you know, and, and play with the ladies like
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she just did recently, um, playing with several,
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but, That was pretty much all that she did. You
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know, she didn't do anything else. And, you know,
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he played and then they came back home. So I
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just find it very, I tell them all the time,
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I was like, it would be hard for me to go with
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them to an event. I could go, but I know that
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I would be just there and just in as a big cheerleader
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for them. I really probably would not connect
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with a whole lot of people. So it sounds like
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it's a whole lot of... uh how do i say it rolling
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the dice you know what i mean when you go to
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those events because like i said you two are
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very very good looking all right and i know attractiveness
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is the first you know the first and foremost
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thing and sometimes you don't find that or you
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may talk to somebody i guess and you know the
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the connection isn't there with one so you know
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and just uh the square is uh is square for me
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yeah well then it's it's hard for queen of spades
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to in to find yeah the full swap dynamic there's
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not as many interracial couples uh i know and
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so i've been in them see it's the challenging
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part uh yeah i think this is i think she said
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it was two two black guys at this uh event the
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other week just two and i think one and that's
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just and that's not even enough for her right
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knowing her knowing knowing your baby girl a
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little bit yeah yeah and then yeah and then you
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know she she knows she now knows you know the
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definition she knows the definition of like quality
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so she was like baby no it wasn't even you know
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it wasn't worth my time so because i asked her
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i was like you've been telling me you did something
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she's like nope i did not she's like not quality
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So she has come a long way, let's say that much.
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But, yeah, I don't know if I could necessarily
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go with them to a whole bunch of those events.
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I just can't see it. But the next one, though,
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the next one, the circle, if we're finished with
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the square, the circle, that's very intriguing
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to me. It's very intriguing because we can blend
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in as bulls. Or we can fuck it up as bulls. So
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I'll let y 'all start that off. Yeah, yep, yep.
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So the circle principle is open flow, right?
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So the principles of this shape and why we decided
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on that is because there's no beginning and no
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end and no center. That's the biggest thing.
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There's no center, right? The power of the circle
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is in continuity, freedom, and fluidity. And
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I love that, right? So in a circle, there's no
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actual real point, right? So the point is open
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and flowing. And these dynamics, in our opinion,
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covers polyamory, over relationships, relationship
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anarchy, fluid bonded groups, which I actually
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don't even know what that really means. I'll
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probably look that up. I know what it means.
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Oh, what is it? Fluid bonded groups. That's like
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that polyamorous polytool that we met. There's
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like two couples. They're married. Or they're
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closed. They're married. No, they're not closed.
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They're just, they're fluid bonded as far as
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like the four of them play without protection.
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You know, so you could have as many people as
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you wanted in a fluid bonded group. And then
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everybody else, they play with, with protection.
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So, but they've agreed that the four of them
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are fluid. Yeah. And, and also stag and vixen
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dynamics like cars, right? So partners may play
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separately together or in a constellation style
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relationship. So I like that. So, um, I really
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like this one because the circle just represents
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the openness of it. It represents the fact that
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because there is no, I mean, technically in a
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circle, there's a, there's a non visible point
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in the center, right? But there is no point.
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And so that just means it's fluid to allow the
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dynamics to figure things out for themselves.
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And I think that's the most important part. That's
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what is for us. We just, We just happen to really
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love me as being a bull, a married bull, and
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Siren also dipping her foot into the cuck -sitting
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end of it, and she's really loving that, and
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we're loving that dynamic. But, you know, we
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flowed. We can work in a swap situation, right?
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We can work in a, okay, just a unicorn that...
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I might go out and play with them by myself,
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or Unicorn will bring to us as a couple. We can
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flow in and out of just severe couples. I like
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to flow into the threesome with you and another
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guy, but it doesn't... Do you want to talk about
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that? Yeah, I'll talk about it. It doesn't often
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work out very well, because unless the guy just
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really knows my Socrates, you know, well, if
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he feels comfortable with him. Anytime we've
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tried that in a new situation, the guy usually
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isn't able to work his magic with Socrates in
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the room. So Socrates usually, if we're, you
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know, we're at our house, then he usually goes
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out to live here and watch some Star Wars, have
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some snacks, a nice little nap while me and the
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guy, the single guy play. So I would, you know,
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and it's worked out a handful of times now to
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have all three of us together, but. It's not
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disappointing by any means. It's just something
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that I'm like, that would be cool to do more
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often. Let me ask, why doesn't it work with the
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guy? Does he look at Socrates and he's intimidated
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by him? And it's not necessarily dick size because
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there's been guys that have a bigger dick than
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Socrates. And still, it's just like, it's just
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the power. And Socrates does not. He doesn't,
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yeah, he doesn't overwhelm the situation. You
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know, as we know, we, yeah. I keep telling you,
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it's the aura. You hear me talk about it all
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the time. It's Socrates' charisma, okay? Socrates
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is totally and absolutely confident in his relationship
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with you all, okay? He knows that he is the king.
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He knows that you are his queen. Nothing is going
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to get between you guys. Nothing. I don't care
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what you do sexually or whatever. Nothing is
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never going to become emotional. It's never going
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to become anything other than just that role
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playing at that time or that scene, as I call
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it, or encounter. That's a better word, that
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encounter at that time. So, you know, when he
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walks in and then, I mean, hell, he's totally
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comfortable because it's his lady. So, you know
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what I mean? I can be my total self. It's my
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wife. You know, so, yeah, the guy comes in. He's
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I can see I can see him getting nervous. I can
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see the gentleman getting nervous. And we really
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do our best to set it up. Yeah. So it's not like
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I understand. Senator Doerr. Yeah. What? Yeah.
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I think the second or third time around, it's
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easier. But the first time, too, it's like we
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usually make dinner for people when they come
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over. We go in the hot tub for a while, wing
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out, have a drink. You know, we do all of that
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before we get to play. I mean, I don't think
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there's been a guy that's walked in the door.
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We're like, hey, drop your pants. Let's go. That
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goes right into what I was going to say here.
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If that bull knocks on your door thinking that
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he's going to come in and just. just balls to
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the walls we're going at you know sex then he
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is fucked from the jump all right there has to
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be some verbal i call it verbal judo there has
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to be some great communication okay some great
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communication um that bull has to adapt okay
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he has to be able to look and see how like happy
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you guys are how you guys interact with with
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each other how let's say you're touchy -feely
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or you talk to each other and then he just blends
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in He blends in. That makes him comfortable.
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That makes you comfortable, Siren. And it damn
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sure makes Socrates comfortable when they can
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jaw jack back and forth. You know? And then you
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take it a little extra. Okay? Then don't do it
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again. Don't put your dick out. Just start with
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some petting. I call it light petting. Touching,
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feeling, tight, rubbing. Wrap your arms around.
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Then go to kissing. And then let it build and
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build and build. Then you have a great encounter.
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I broke that down. You sure did. That's kind
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of what the hot tub part is all about. It's getting
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comfortable and then you're feeling under the
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water. Nobody's watching what you're doing and
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you're sneaking. You know what's so funny about
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the word petting is that I grew up super conservatively
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and that was something that we're like. You know,
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because abstinence was preached and it was like,
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beware of petting. So it's funny to hear it in
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a positive way now. Like, oh, let's just start
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with some petting. I mean, sorry. Now times change.
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I really do think there's a myriad of reasons.
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One, a lot of these guys are used to white couples,
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white men. Two, I don't know what this is and
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we're going to have an episode about this. There's
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not a lot of... I don't personally know a lot
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of black stags, right? I can count on one hand
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the black stags that I know. So a lot of guys,
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and then a lot of guys are used to their husbands
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either not being able to, not wanting to, or
24:46
wanting something different, or just wanting
24:49
that variety for their wives. They're not used
24:52
to another six foot tall, totally confident,
24:55
experienced. Exactly. with you know above average
24:59
dick who's like i got it handled but i just have
25:02
an insatiable wife so have you know i mean and
25:05
so my energy in the room like you're saying my
25:07
aura is not like oh i'm gonna sit in the corner
25:10
like a cuck and i want you to please my wife
25:12
or i'm gonna join in but you're bringing the
25:16
virality or you're bringing the energy or you're
25:19
bringing the variety no i'm like bruh my wife
25:23
can handle three four at a time you know what
25:25
i mean so so help him help him out you know yeah
25:28
but let me say this though even even if you did
25:31
sit and just watch here again your aura the way
25:36
you are the confidence you know what i mean that
25:39
the average the average boy would look at you
25:41
and be like okay um i don't see i don't see no
25:45
like reaction from you all right like with me
25:49
looking at looking at lindsey You know what I
25:51
mean? I'm there. I'm very, very supportive, very,
25:55
very vocal. You know, some guys might sit there
25:58
and they don't say a freaking doggone word, and
26:00
that can intimidate the bull. They can throw
26:03
him off his game. But like I said, the aura is
26:07
everything. The aura is everything. You know,
26:11
here again, that's why I say the circle for the
26:14
bull, he needs to come in first and foremost.
26:18
He needs to be very, very... intelligent, to
26:22
play in the circle, you need to be kind of an
26:26
experienced guy. Like you've been in it for a
26:29
little while. I'm not saying you're a master
26:30
of anything, but you need to have dotted some
26:34
I's and crossed some T's in the lifestyle, okay,
26:37
before you, you know, get into that dynamic.
26:43
So, yeah, no. That was all I had for as far as
26:46
that's concerned. Before we move on to the next
26:49
one, let's talk about some key traits for this
26:51
for the circle. So basically, I love these things,
26:55
autonomy and personal agency. Right. So in the
26:59
circle, it's way more compared to the square.
27:02
It's way more about individual autonomy and agency.
27:05
In other words, my voice matters individually.
27:10
What I want to do. individually needs to be taken
27:13
into consideration whereas the square it's more
27:16
of like we're making sure everybody is on an
27:18
equal plane and getting their nades in an equal
27:21
way and it doesn't have to be equal that night
27:23
right like sometimes you can be in a square dynamic
27:27
say you know what let me make a little bit more
27:30
about my wife tonight right or make it more about
27:33
my husband or we're really gonna wow this unicorn
27:36
right but at the same time What you're really
27:40
coming from is the paradigm of everybody has
27:44
equal agency and equal autonomy. Whereas the
27:46
circle, it's individual. Emotional depth and
27:50
romantic potential. So in the circle, it's a
27:54
lot more open, whereas like open but not a rule.
27:58
So like for me and Siren, we are not poly. And
28:02
so that door is not open, right? But... It's
28:07
way more open than it would be in a square dynamic
28:10
in the words like if it comes about and we're
28:13
ready in that stage of our life and we've Discussed
28:16
it a million times. We've got our rules down
28:17
and we know what the parameters are. That's something
28:20
we can't explore, but we're not And then the
28:25
last one versatility and roles that's my favorite
28:27
part, right? So for example bulls stags Secondaries
28:31
lovers friends with benefits in the circle paradigm.
28:34
It's versatile Right? It's not 100 % set what
28:40
the bull's doing or what the stag's doing or
28:42
what the hot wife is coming from or it can be
28:44
things like open, you know, friends with benefits.
28:47
Right? There are poly relationships where they'll
28:50
bring me in as a bull, not because they're a
28:53
cuckold relationship, but they just want, they
28:56
have their boyfriend, but they just want a guy
28:59
that they can bring in as a friends with benefits.
29:00
You know, I beat it up. I respect them. And I,
29:04
you know, I have, I'm an experienced guy. So
29:06
a lot of times I'm talking kind of thuggish or
29:09
rough, but I'm an experienced guy, right? So
29:12
I'll come in and give them that experience. But
29:14
in a positive relationship, they understand with
29:17
this dynamic, we're not getting into an emotional
29:19
state. We're not going to have an emotional relationship,
29:22
right? But I'm going to come in as a friend,
29:26
as a friend with benefits, as a bull. We're going
29:29
to have a scene. We're going to have fun. And
29:31
then I'm going to bounce, right? but it could
29:34
develop though but it could say that it could
29:37
develop it could develop all right that just
29:39
depends on that bull that you pick you know what
29:42
i mean if he knows how to keep it um a certain
29:46
way and the friends that benefits way okay great
29:50
but if there's that real real connection that
29:53
real real deep connection between bull and you
29:57
know wife uh it could it could turn it could
30:00
turn into something else All right. And I know
30:03
what I'm talking about. Oh, I know you do. That's
30:06
why we got you here on 30 years, over 30 years
30:08
of experience. So the biggest thing to me is
30:14
being versatile and emotional intelligence. So
30:17
when a bull enters in a circle dynamic, his opportunity
30:22
is to show his leadership and his emotional intelligence.
30:26
It's not about dominance. It's about adapting.
30:30
That's Ankh's favorite word. Supporting and sometimes
30:33
staying. In other words, your staying ability
30:37
or your ability to be stable and a rock, when
30:41
you're entering in that circle dynamic, the crazy
30:44
thing is a lot of times there's chaos because
30:47
it's so fluid, because the roles are so versatile.
30:50
And a bull, when a bull comes into those dynamics,
30:53
he brings great leadership, not dominance, right?
30:56
So he's going to help. lead that dynamic or whoever's
31:02
in that dynamic in a way where they're having
31:05
a great time, right? And he is a master of communication
31:08
in this situation or needs to be so that he's
31:13
making sure that these versatile roles are still
31:17
communicating when things change. Does that make
31:19
sense, y 'all? Like, Siren, what do you think?
31:22
Your perspective on the bull, which is right,
31:26
we're a bull brother. This is a perspective from
31:28
a bull. So if a bull is entering a circle dynamic
31:31
where there's a lot of changing dynamics, there's
31:35
a lot of fluid roles being involved, it's like
31:37
it's not, you know, it's not centered on one
31:41
or the other. And it's also not like as fixed
31:46
as like the triangle is. Right. Like, so what's
31:49
your perspective on a good bull entering into
31:53
the circle dynamic? Well, just someone to that,
31:56
you know. In any dynamic in the lifestyle, it's
31:58
really important to have great communication.
32:02
So whoever he's involved with, he needs to make
32:05
sure that he's really on top of the communication.
32:07
And he can be a leader in that area too, you
32:10
know, as just reaching out, making sure that
32:13
everyone's on the same page of, you know, what
32:16
everyone's role is in that circle. For us, for
32:21
me, I have certain requirements. I probably have
32:23
more requirements for the bull playing with me
32:26
solo than my husband has for them. I require
32:30
that they give him a call. And even though my
32:35
husband's like, you don't have to run this by
32:37
me, blah, blah, blah, I want to establish some
32:40
authority in that. So they need to be respectful
32:43
of whatever dynamic that that woman is in and
32:46
kind of check, hey, is there... Is there, you
32:50
know, a man that I need to check in with or a
32:52
woman, you know, whatever dynamic they're in.
32:55
And then I think, you know, just being flexible.
32:58
There's going to be, you know, there may be some
33:01
emotional ups and downs with couples. You know,
33:04
a bull will have to, you know, just be receptive
33:08
to whatever's going on with them and be able
33:11
to have some flexibility there. And, you know,
33:14
just the more kind of. laid back they are in
33:17
that area, then they can be adapting. Then the
33:21
more dominant they can be later. So if they're
33:24
a little more laid back on the front end, but
33:26
good with the communicating, you can be laid
33:29
back, but then also be assertive, if that makes
33:32
sense. It's a healthy balance right there. That
33:35
you should select should have a whole arsenal
33:39
of questions about what you like, what you desire.
33:46
what the boundaries are, okay, et cetera, et
33:49
cetera, et cetera. That's what that requires.
33:53
That's what that communication mastery to me
33:56
means. I will come in with a barrage of questions.
34:01
You know what I mean? To make everybody, to let
34:03
both of you guys know that, hey, I'm here for
34:08
you. You know what I'm saying? This is about
34:10
your experience. We are here to help. I want
34:13
you guys to have the experience. the experience
34:16
with me okay because this is probably i would
34:19
say the circle is closest to the to the um the
34:23
boyfriend experience as i call it you know without
34:25
being a boyfriend but it's that's what he's there
34:28
to do give you a boyfriend experience and then
34:30
roll out but if he misses here again if he doesn't
34:34
dot every i across every team when he's questioning
34:37
you guys um then he you know he messes the thing
34:40
up he has the potential to mess everything up
34:44
But if you guys are on that same feed of music
34:46
with the communication, I mean, talking, talking,
34:49
talking, talking. And yes, Siren, I would say
34:53
I would tell you, if you don't mind, please relay
34:56
something to your husband. Or is it OK if I relay
35:00
this to your husband? So we're all on the same
35:02
page. Right. And I pretty much hand over, you
35:06
know, his phone number quickly. You know, if
35:08
I plan to meet up with someone and. And he's
35:11
like, well, if they're coming to our house, he's
35:13
like, you know, they don't have to call me, but
35:15
I just require it. I just do the same steps every
35:18
time. That way, it's something that's muscle
35:21
memory for me. It establishes that authority
35:23
of him being my leader and my king. And then,
35:27
you know, then establishes that they need to
35:30
respect him before they can get to the other
35:33
prizes. This ain't about me coming in. as a bull
35:39
and trying to dominate anything or show dominance.
35:43
No. Be respectful until it's time to be disrespectful
35:48
is what we like to say. And there's, you know,
35:53
in the lifestyle too, women, you know, need a
35:59
variety of the, you know, the communication and
36:03
the time spent. And I'm a little bit on the lower
36:06
end of You know, how much I need to get involved
36:10
with someone. You mean at the bottom? Hey, I'm
36:14
trying to be like... Man, just throw me under
36:19
the bus. You don't... Look, you don't require
36:23
much at all. I mean, and that's not meaning low
36:27
standards. She's looking... Y 'all, if y 'all
36:29
can see her face, I would have been dead. What
36:31
I mean by that... We're gonna have to edit this
36:33
part out because there's about to be a death.
36:36
It's about to be some furniture moving around.
36:38
I can't lift over 10. Oh, so you're lucky. You
36:40
can pull that trigger finger. Yeah, I think my
36:43
gun only lays. What I mean by that, ladies and
36:47
gentlemen, is Siren can tell. She has an incredibly
36:52
keen sense of her intuition about people. Now,
36:58
I ask her to take more time with the ladies because
37:01
she is my slut secretary. But with men, she could
37:04
tell instantly. And so once she can tell and
37:08
she feels comfortable with you, let's go. It
37:10
doesn't mean you're not going to go through those
37:12
processes of you got to talk to my husband. Let
37:14
me find out if you're an idiot. All of those
37:16
things. Let's have some vibes. Right. But I'm
37:20
just saying, like, the cool thing about her is
37:23
she is not going to take a week, a couple of
37:26
days to figure it out. She's going to know almost
37:28
right away. And then if the doors open, let's
37:31
go see if you can get over these hurdles. And
37:34
if you do. Then you're good. But what I like
37:37
about her is, you know, you ain't got to take
37:38
a week. They're not very big hurdles sometimes.
37:41
And I would say at events, it's even, you know,
37:44
less. It's like I've told guys, I said at the
37:48
last event I was at, I said, you know, you understand
37:51
that there's women out here that need more time
37:53
and attention from you before they can get to
37:55
the play part. I want you to give that to them.
37:58
But know that I'm here to be. you know, a treat,
38:04
I guess. You know, I don't require as much, especially
38:08
at events. So it's like if we're talking vibing
38:11
maybe 10, 15 minutes, you know, I'm ready to
38:14
go. You know, I know that quickly. Other women
38:16
need longer and there's nothing wrong with that.
38:18
But it's kind of it's kind of nice to have a
38:21
little bit of everything. You know, there's the
38:23
women that need a longer, deeper connection.
38:25
And then there's some women like me that are
38:27
just. quicker you know we're we're a smack so
38:31
and we like that you know i i'm there was one
38:34
guy at a pool in uh fort lauderdale and um he
38:37
barely got in the pool and then we started making
38:40
out like within a minute i was like let's go
38:42
the daytime playroom and he was like i just got
38:44
in the pool i said come on just give me 15 minutes
38:46
you know and he's like oh okay he was relieved
38:49
he's like oh we can go play for 15 minutes and
38:51
we can come right back i'm like yeah let's do
38:53
it So we went and did that. He knows he didn't
38:55
have to give me two hours, you know? And so I
38:58
just started explaining that to guys. I'm like,
39:00
I like a longer experience, but hey, if we got
39:02
15 minutes, I'm still going to have a good time.
39:05
Nothing against that. I'm willing. Let's go to
39:12
bed. Not easy, but a yelling. I know. Not easy.
39:17
Yeah, I like that. Open. You're open. You're
39:19
open to all the possibilities. Open all the possibilities.
39:23
But you see, and here again, that's the difference
39:26
between those guys who are, I still call them
39:29
anxious compared to, say, some of the more seasoned
39:35
ones who like to break you down a little bit.
39:39
You know what I mean? And not necessarily play
39:42
with you, but just have you thinking. have you
39:46
thinking like you know like what's going on in
39:48
that guy's head why hasn't he you know taken
39:51
me to the room already or this and that so that's
39:55
just the difference between say myself uh the
40:00
season one and you know some of the guys that
40:03
go to splash yeah that's why i kind of look at
40:05
the guys who go to splash as they're pretty much
40:08
bbc bulls a lot of them are they're not the ones
40:12
that are you know the more uh season ones but
40:16
yeah that's another conversation keep it going
40:18
y 'all yeah that's another episode so i just
40:20
wanted to say this and then we'll move on to
40:22
the triangle um our the reason for this podcast
40:25
gentlemen ladies and gentlemen is mastery and
40:29
you'll see it this is a lifestyle mastery podcast
40:31
that means if you are a seasoned vet and you've
40:35
been doing this for years we want to have something
40:37
for you to even sharpen your skills but if you're
40:39
new Look, this lifestyle is so amazing, and there's
40:43
so many high -level experiences. You can, but
40:49
like anything in life, it takes work to get there.
40:53
And then we'll talk about K 'nai, our commitment,
40:55
which is constant and never -ending improvement,
40:57
never -ending improvement. And that's what we're
41:00
committed to. The squad that we have and the
41:03
brothers that we hang around with, these are
41:06
all seasoned brothers. You know, I'm eight years
41:09
in, almost nine, and I'm the, you know, the junior
41:12
of the bunch. And this is tools that we're giving
41:16
you guys so that you can come into any one of
41:19
these dynamics and just be powerful and have
41:22
really great experiences because, man, this last
41:25
event we went to, it was tears. It was tears
41:28
because they were so happy and they got what
41:31
they wanted and they had a license to be themselves
41:33
and they had good quality bulls. that understood
41:37
that man the relationships you formed the experiences
41:41
you have knowing that it's unprecedented man
41:44
and it's unparalleled and you know we we want
41:48
you guys to have access to that that's why we're
41:50
doing this shit man and that's absolutely beautiful
41:53
because they're going to go back and tell one
41:56
other couple and that couple's going to tell
41:58
another couple and so on and so on and so on
42:00
and the bulls are going to go back and make the
42:03
brotherhood even stronger by telling other brothers
42:06
So that's what we're looking for. That's why
42:08
we're doing this podcast. Because like I said,
42:11
having been in this since I was 26, 27 years
42:16
old, it is time for me now to pass the torch
42:19
on to other younger brothers and keep this family,
42:25
keep this lifestyle going and going and going
42:27
and getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Because,
42:30
ladies and gentlemen, whether or not you know
42:32
it, Although still considered, you know, underground,
42:36
the hot wife, old cuckold world is huge. It is
42:42
freaking huge. It is all over the United States.
42:45
It is all over the world. Um, movies. Now I've
42:50
seen more than movies in the last year, uh, involving
42:54
this lifestyle. Okay. And, and, and so that,
42:58
I mean, that should tell you it's, it's bigger
43:00
and bigger and bigger. And, uh, You know, we're
43:02
just happy to be able to come in and share some
43:07
of our experiences and some of our knowledge.
43:10
And we hope that you gravitate to us, to this
43:13
podcast, to Siren's podcast. Can't wait for her
43:16
to, you know, to really, really get into it with
43:20
hopefully my lady, Lindsay. And, you know, we're
43:25
just going to keep this thing rolling. We're
43:26
going to keep it rolling. And this is a beautiful
43:29
world to live in. Let me tell you, a beautiful
43:31
world to live in again. And I speak for, you
43:35
know, Siren and Socrates because they are my
43:37
family. Phillip and Lindsay, of course, my family.
43:42
But these are some of the happiest couples I've
43:47
ever met in my life. Period. Facts. All right.
43:51
Now I'm going to shut up so we can keep going.
43:53
But you guys just think about that. On to the
43:58
triangle, y 'all. On to the triangle. The power
44:00
dynamic, y 'all. This is the one I love. Yeah.
44:04
So the principles behind that is the three fixed
44:07
points connected by tension, right? The triangle
44:10
is the most stable shape under pressure because
44:13
each point supports the other. Now, this is where
44:16
the big debate you're going to hear with the
44:20
commission. This is where the controversy comes
44:26
in. Our opinion is not the same shared opinion
44:30
of the community. So we're going to talk about
44:34
it because I believe in this strongly. And the
44:39
most important thing for me is that there are
44:43
three points connected by tension, connected
44:47
by, you know, wanting to support each other and
44:52
equality. And I want Unk to speak on this. And
44:56
why do you, I know, Unk, you share this opinion
44:59
because I, you know, sat under your fit and listened
45:02
to your wisdom on it. And so I want you to kind
45:05
of speak on that. And then you can kind of flow
45:07
into whatever else you want. But I really want
45:09
to hear that part. Okay. Of course, I'm going
45:13
to start with what the bull brings, you know,
45:17
to this. Here again. The bull can, he can be,
45:25
he can bring his dominance into this. But at
45:31
the same time, he, again, he has to bring versatility
45:35
into it. He has to bring emotions. He has to
45:41
bring, here's my favorite word again, adaptability.
45:44
You know, this triangle requires strength, intuition,
45:51
you know. the bull the bull leads the cook uh
45:55
he he's i hate to say the word submissive but
45:59
you know he yields his his strength in other
46:02
words and then the hot wife she she she flourishes
46:06
you know she she gets the best of both worlds
46:09
right here she gets to see her husband over there
46:13
you know you know loving seeing her being being
46:16
pleased not only physically but also emotionally
46:20
then the bull He's getting the best of both worlds
46:24
because he's having that connection with the
46:27
wife, and he's also having that connection with
46:31
the husband. You know what I mean? Hell, they
46:33
can go from not communicating a whole lot to
46:37
communicating, I mean, almost like best friends.
46:40
So, I mean, this is a three -way. This leads,
46:43
this goes from you, from that bull going from
46:46
the BBC bull, let's say the versatile, guy, the
46:51
boyfriend, and then it may lead to him becoming
46:55
part of a throuple, i .e. myself. I just define
46:59
what the hell I am. So, you know, that's why
47:03
I say I gravitate to the triangle more than anything.
47:08
And I love it because everybody here definitely
47:11
is on the same page. Open -minded, honesty, communication.
47:19
et cetera, et cetera. So take it from there,
47:22
y 'all. I love that. The bull leads, the staggered
47:28
cuck relinquishes, and the wife flourishes. Oh,
47:31
that's so dope. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness,
47:37
that's so dope. Yeah, so one of the things that
47:42
I like to focus on is the fact that in this dynamic
47:45
is, you know, cuckolding, hot wife, stag, vixen.
47:48
These dynamics are distinct roles in polarity.
47:51
And like my boy Michael C. says, the hot wife
47:56
or the cuckoldress flourishes. That's why it's
47:59
wife -centric. Some people look at my dynamic,
48:02
damn near play as much as your wife. Well, I'm
48:05
like, no. Number one, it's really hard for a
48:11
man to keep up with a wife if they are, you know,
48:14
equally open to play. But number two. It's about
48:17
the wife flourishing, right? I'm leading for
48:20
one reason for the wife to flourish. The cook
48:23
is relinquishing for one reason, the wife to
48:27
flourish. And I love that because that's what
48:30
it's all about. So it's a paradigm of making
48:33
it wife centric so that the wife can flourish.
48:36
I love that, you know, and then the bull and
48:39
the cook stack and the hot wife form a powerful
48:41
aligned trio, right? For me, I eat a throuple.
48:47
That's right. I eat a throuple if that's what
48:49
you're looking for. Yeah. I mean, for me, they're
48:53
all equal points. That's why it's a triangle.
48:59
And they have equal challenges. They might have
49:02
unequal specific things that they're dealing
49:06
with, right? Like a bull doesn't have to consult
49:09
with his, you know, Wife or husband, at least
49:12
in that dynamic. So I'm a married bull, and if
49:14
I go to a couple and they don't want Cuck sitting,
49:18
then my wife's not involved. She might schedule
49:20
it, and that's it, right? But I'm going into
49:24
that dynamic, and I'm going there to make sure
49:28
she's connected, right? To make sure she's aligned
49:32
in this trio. But I have unique challenges, you
49:35
know? Cuck has unique challenges. And the hot
49:40
wife has unique challenges. She has to worry
49:42
about her cuck in that situation. She has to
49:45
make sure his needs are met. He's worried about
49:47
the wife. He's making sure that her needs are
49:50
met. You know what I mean? But we all have equal
49:53
challenges. I don't subscribe to this mentality
49:58
that, oh, well, you know, there's a lot more
50:01
bulls out here that ain't right. Well, that's
50:04
true only because right now, The focus is on
50:09
the bull trying to get the wife. He has to jump
50:11
through all the hurdles and overcome obstacles
50:14
and, you know, all of those things to try and
50:18
make that wife feel comfortable and the cuck
50:20
feel comfortable. But when you get more into
50:22
this lifestyle and you start knowing the details
50:25
of these dynamics, you know, not every cuckold
50:28
couple is awesome. Not every cuckold couple is
50:31
perfect. Not every couple has their shit together,
50:34
right? They bring baggage to the table. that
50:37
the bull has to navigate, as well as flaky bulls,
50:40
right? Bulls claiming to be dominant, and they
50:42
have no idea what dominance is, right? You know?
50:48
Right? So it's like we all deal with unique challenges.
50:52
I'm not to take away from the Karkovsk challenges,
50:55
not to take away from the stress that they have
50:58
to deal with and the issues they have to deal
50:59
with, but it's more of like, hey, you know? As
51:03
a bull, I don't want to be treated like, oh,
51:06
okay, you know, Mr. Mocha talks about this a
51:09
lot. You know, when a couple, a couple is concerned
51:12
about privacy, well, we're professionals. We
51:14
don't want to share our pictures. We don't want
51:16
to take the risk of you knowing our faces. Well,
51:18
hey, guess what? I'm a professional too. You
51:21
know, I own businesses. I'm, you know, involved
51:25
in my community. I live in a conservative community,
51:29
right? I don't want my face out in the streets
51:31
either do you. We're both taking a risk here,
51:34
right? So I understand your concerns. Oh, well,
51:37
my wife is shy. My wife's this. That's great.
51:40
I might be shy too, just because I'm a bull doesn't
51:42
mean there aren't introverted bulls. Doesn't
51:45
mean there aren't shy in the beginning bulls,
51:47
right? So, you know, that's my whole thing. It's
51:51
like, you know, it's equal, right? There's defined
51:57
roles. That's the difference, right? In the circle,
52:00
there isn't defined roles. You know, for us,
52:04
it's dominant, and we'll say submissive or relinquisher,
52:09
and radiant feminine. I love that. Radiant feminine.
52:13
Those are defined roles. Doesn't mean, again,
52:16
we're not trying to pigeonhole y 'all. Y 'all
52:18
do what you want, right? But what that means
52:20
is, is that in a triangle or cuckold relationship,
52:24
right, we know at least in context of that scene
52:28
with the bull and the wife, or that cuckoldress,
52:34
right? There's a dynamic there where he's going
52:38
to lead her, right? So sexual polarity and intentional
52:44
imbalance, right? In order to create any kind
52:48
of attraction, whether it's vanilla or lifestyle,
52:52
there has to be tension. There has to be sexual
52:54
polarity, right? Because if you think about North
52:57
Pole and South Pole, Those polarities push against
53:02
each other, which creates gravity, creates an
53:06
attraction to each other. That's what you're
53:08
doing. As a bull, you're coming in dominant or
53:11
leadership energy. And she's given the polarity
53:14
of feminine or relinquishing that control to
53:21
that dominant. That's a polarity that you want.
53:25
The biggest thing is compersion. Sometimes a
53:28
humiliation or even devotion may exist, right?
53:32
So there's devotion from the bull sometimes.
53:36
There's definitely devotion from the cuck. And
53:38
there's devotion from the hot wife or cuckodress
53:41
to their husband. But the biggest thing is compersion,
53:44
right? Like, I think, and I want your opinion
53:47
on this, Unc. I think a good bull needs a little
53:51
bit of compersion. To see that couple, like the
53:55
last event we went to, to see the smiles and
53:58
the radiance in the cuck and the hot wise faces,
54:01
that was compersion for me. But what do you think,
54:03
Uncle? If that isn't what the bull wants to see
54:08
every time he has an encounter, then he should
54:13
get out of the business. Because that's what
54:15
it's all about. That's what it's all about. It's
54:18
never about you, okay? I think I've told you
54:21
before, nephew. I'm pleased when the couple reaches
54:26
out to me, when the couple shows interest in
54:29
me, when the couple says, hey, we want to meet.
54:31
I'm pleased right there. So now it's all about
54:34
that couple. And it's not just about the wife.
54:38
OK, I'm going to know within five to 10 minutes
54:41
whether or not she and I are going to have a
54:42
good time. But I want to make that husband equally
54:46
as happy in his role. If he's a real cook, then
54:51
I want him to have. that real cuck experience
54:53
okay if he wants to be you know slightly humiliated
54:57
or whatever then i'm gonna make sure that that
54:59
happens but at the end of the night when i'm
55:02
getting ready to leave them i want them both
55:04
to be able to come up to me and be like we we
55:07
enjoyed you and we want to see you again that's
55:12
the that's the ultimate bull experience right
55:14
there in a nutshell so if you're not trying to
55:17
do that guys when you're out there you're in
55:20
the wrong field Siren, what do you think? Do
55:23
you think a good bull can not have that compersion
55:29
feeling? Like, you know, some of the ones that
55:31
are a little bit more comfortable with me leaving
55:32
the room, what do you think? Like, what's the
55:35
point? You know, it's just very self -serving
55:37
if that's the only reason that you're there is
55:39
for yourself, you know? It was very fun, I would
55:45
just say, to be at that event and to hear from
55:49
the bulls. playing with the other dynamics like
55:53
just how excited that they were and they talked
55:56
probably actually more about the cuck and like
56:00
how cool it was to like you know it be in the
56:04
experience with them even more than some of like
56:07
the the women you know because and and just like
56:10
how happy they were to be able to like be of
56:12
service to that couple you know it was just you
56:15
could tell the enjoyment definitely hit all points
56:17
of that triangle and So the ones that, you know,
56:22
I've run into that are very comfortable with
56:24
that, it seems like they're super comfortable
56:26
and they enjoy all aspects of that. Or there's
56:31
the ones that just are green and clueless and
56:33
then they yuck other people's yums, which we
56:36
don't like anybody who yucks someone's yum anyways.
56:39
So it's like you might not understand it. I had,
56:43
you know, remember, I think on a different pursuit,
56:45
I told you guys, like, I used to think that someone
56:49
putting a tuck in the cage was like a literal
56:51
cage, like a human -sized dog crate or something.
56:55
And then, you know, that's just ignorance, right?
56:58
So I had ignorance, but I was just like, I need
57:02
to find out more about this because I just don't
57:04
really know anything about it. And then the more
57:05
I know about it, the more beautiful and the more
57:08
appreciative I am of. all of that and then just
57:12
being around more people like that you know not
57:15
being in that dynamic myself I just was able
57:18
to have you know an even greater appreciation
57:21
for the dynamic and just really enjoy you know
57:25
talking to to all points on the triangle and
57:28
how they related to each other was really cool
57:30
let me ask you guys this did you notice the interaction
57:35
between the bulls as far as communicating with
57:38
each other like say after an encounter or Just
57:41
like during, say, breakfast or lunch or out at
57:44
the pool, you know, were they like a real brotherhood
57:49
there? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah,
57:53
because they were having such a great time. You
57:56
know, the experience was a true experience. It
57:59
was a different experience than a Splash Mocha.
58:01
Right. Well, and it was smaller. you know grouping
58:05
and so i think you knowing that they were all
58:08
there for that purpose to be a part of a cuckold
58:12
dynamic um you know with the with the exception
58:16
of us who were just helping you know at the event
58:19
so just knowing that they were there for that
58:24
it was a very focused time and then they when
58:26
they're talking to each other you know they all
58:28
know they're there for the same purpose for the
58:30
same thing so it was so that That made it easier
58:33
than going to Splash. You're like, hey, what
58:35
kind of dynamics are you? You know what's in
58:38
there. Splash is speed fucking. That's all the
58:42
fuck it is. That's what Splash is. All the great
58:45
is speed fucking. You all know that. The morning
58:48
gathering was where it's at. As a bull, you do
58:52
not get a chance to master your craft at Splash
58:57
Mocha. At smaller events, you get a chance to
59:00
master your craft. And they got a chance to actually
59:03
be what a bull is supposed to be at Utopia. You
59:07
know what I mean? They met. They had great conversation.
59:11
They interacted with, you know what I mean, not
59:14
just sexually, but they actually interacted,
59:16
acted with. They got to know these couples on
59:20
a whole different vibe, physically, emotionally,
59:23
you know. So it was the total experience. Right.
59:27
That was tight. Exactly. It was time to slow
59:31
down and interact with other bulls more. Exactly,
59:35
exactly. And the bulls, they had to exude patience.
59:41
You had to have some patience there because,
59:43
like I said, you had couples there that were,
59:46
you guys told me that there were some veterans
59:48
there, and then I think you had some ones who
59:51
had never been to something like that before,
59:52
correct? Exactly. So they had to be patient,
59:55
you know what I mean, and let nature take its
59:59
course. So that was that was the perfect event
1:00:02
for those nine or 10 guys who went, you know,
1:00:05
regardless if they were seasoned vets or if they
1:00:07
were just, you know, getting into the damn into
1:00:10
the, you know, the Bull Brotherhood. So, yeah,
1:00:14
that was that was good. That was great. I want
1:00:16
to give I want to give Michael see his flower.
1:00:19
So what we're talking about is the club utopia.
1:00:23
It's on the keys and inklets dot com or keys
1:00:27
and inklets podcast dot com. website. Him and
1:00:32
Blonde by the Bay put this thing together. We
1:00:35
were just there as kind of helping them. They
1:00:38
did a really good job of selecting the right
1:00:42
bulls and he also created a telegram group to
1:00:46
keep everybody's privacy and that these bulls
1:00:49
can talk to each other and they were able to
1:00:51
kind of talk to each other and get to know a
1:00:54
little bit about each other beforehand. And so
1:00:56
what I saw is that they started forming friendships
1:01:00
and bonds right away. You started seeing guys
1:01:03
that didn't know each other beforehand. They
1:01:05
were hanging out the whole weekend on, you know,
1:01:07
times resting in between play and in between
1:01:09
the events and eating and stuff. And you saw
1:01:13
them really bonding and connecting. It was dope.
1:01:17
Here again, at smaller events where you just
1:01:20
got eight, nine, ten guys, it really is you guys
1:01:24
get to practice what being brothers is all about.
1:01:27
You know, like fraternal brothers. You know,
1:01:29
like I said, Splash, you got a hundred motherfuckers
1:01:32
there. Hell, it's all about damn competing. You're
1:01:35
competing. You know what I mean? You're running
1:01:37
from one to the other. Oh, I saw this one, but
1:01:39
he grabbed up. So let me go to the other one
1:01:41
over here. You can't enjoy what being a bull
1:01:46
is really all about at those big events. They're
1:01:49
fun. Don't get me wrong. They are fun. I never
1:01:51
downgrade Splash. I love going to Splash. But
1:01:54
now I love being the... Kind of like the voyeur
1:01:58
at Splash and just watching everybody, you know,
1:02:00
how they operate, especially the guys. But at
1:02:03
a smaller event, though, when you get to really
1:02:05
practice your craft, you get to hone your skills,
1:02:09
that's perfect. So, you know, here again, shout
1:02:13
out to Michael C. and shout out to you two for
1:02:16
having a great damn event. You know, and I won't
1:02:19
miss the next one. I certainly won't. Yes, sir.
1:02:23
All right, Unc, well, I want to kind of end it
1:02:25
up with a little, I got a little grid for y 'all.
1:02:28
If you guys can kind of picture this grid, the
1:02:31
square, circle, and triangle grid. I don't know
1:02:34
if you guys want to talk about something else,
1:02:36
but I just kind of want to share that to kind
1:02:38
of give people a little visual in their head
1:02:41
that they can picture. If you're going to look
1:02:43
at each shape, each one symbolizes something
1:02:45
and each one is a typical dynamic. And then there's
1:02:48
what an ideal bull trait. could or recommend
1:02:52
it and i really like this so as far as the square
1:02:56
that symbolizes balance and reciprocity right
1:03:02
the typical dynamics usually are swingers or
1:03:05
the swapping mentality and the ideal bull trait
1:03:09
to me is charismatic guest bull if you walk in
1:03:15
in a square dynamic which is the least one you're
1:03:18
going to get as a bull, right? It's going to
1:03:21
be rare that you walk into that dynamic, but
1:03:23
you can as a single male. You want to come in
1:03:27
as a charismatic guest to that square, right?
1:03:32
And then the challenge is you got to wait for
1:03:34
mutual desire, right? You have to make sure that
1:03:40
the male in that. couple is more comfortable
1:03:46
with you. You got to make sure she's obviously
1:03:48
attracted to you, that she's going to make sure
1:03:50
he's good, you know, that kind of thing. When
1:03:54
it comes to the circle, it symbolizes flow and
1:03:57
versatility, right? And these dynamics are open
1:04:00
relationships, poly, stag vixen, it's flexibility,
1:04:05
right? Now, the ideal trait for there for a bull
1:04:08
is emotional agility and patience, right? Um,
1:04:13
the risk is of being ambiguous or confusing,
1:04:17
right? So in a circle, you know, there's a lot
1:04:21
of dynamics. There's a lot of complexity to it.
1:04:24
You know, it's a lot of free flowing and you
1:04:27
really want to be emotionally agile. Right. You
1:04:30
don't want to have too many expectations or rules
1:04:33
or parameters you have to walk in. If you are
1:04:36
one of those bulls, I got all these preferences
1:04:38
and I have, you know, sensory deprivation or
1:04:41
I like it this way or I need it that way or I
1:04:44
want the approach to be this way or I only approach
1:04:47
that way. I really don't recommend that because,
1:04:50
you know, you're gone. It's not like every single,
1:04:54
you know, situation is going to be difficult.
1:04:58
But, you know, for us, you have to be versatile
1:05:01
with us being Stag Vixen because you might come
1:05:04
over and I might say something and I'm going
1:05:06
to go in the backyard and, you know, put my fire
1:05:09
and chill or I'm going to come in here and watch
1:05:10
some Star Wars, like Siren said, you know, or
1:05:14
I might be involved. Or you might be at a party
1:05:18
and I'm throwing a party and I want to make sure
1:05:20
that everybody's getting their individual needs
1:05:22
met. So you want to be versatile. To the triangle
1:05:26
symbol, that represents tension and polarity,
1:05:28
right? Now, the dynamics are cuckolding, outwifing,
1:05:32
structured, stag, vixen, right? The ideal trait
1:05:37
for the bull is dominance, leadership, and being
1:05:40
intentional, right? When you come into a cuckold
1:05:43
relationship or a stag -vixen relationship where
1:05:45
he is relinquishing power as a stag or a cuck,
1:05:51
you want to be intentional. You want to have
1:05:53
a fucking game plan. And I like the word leadership
1:05:57
as opposed to dominance. I think dominance is
1:06:01
the description you describe of what it looks
1:06:05
like for a leader to lead. Because dominance
1:06:10
is not about being mean or aggressive or not
1:06:14
considering what that person's concerns are.
1:06:17
It's about leading them through. a scene or through
1:06:20
a relationship in a way where you can navigate
1:06:23
everybody to ecstasy and fun and things being
1:06:26
safe. Can I say something? That was why I said
1:06:33
what I said earlier when I did say you can be
1:06:37
dominant or expected to be dominant, but you
1:06:40
don't have to be dominant. Remember what I've
1:06:43
said in the past, ladies and gentlemen, and my
1:06:47
fellow bulls out there. Confidence breeds dominance.
1:06:52
If you go into that situation as a confident
1:06:55
male, as a confident bull, then it's going to
1:06:59
exude the dominance. They're going to automatically
1:07:03
both the wife and the husband will immediately
1:07:10
submit to you and let you lead from the front.
1:07:15
So that's why I said you can be dominant going
1:07:18
in there. But if you're not necessarily the one
1:07:20
that exudes that dominance, at least be extremely
1:07:25
confident. Like I said, you go in there confident,
1:07:28
it's going to automatically turn into dominance.
1:07:31
So go ahead now, nephew. Yes, sir. I just want
1:07:33
to finish off with one quote. Your lifestyle
1:07:36
dynamic reflects the shape of your energy. Squares
1:07:40
are about equality. Circles are about expansion.
1:07:44
And triangles are about power. Know your shape?
1:07:47
Great points. Great points. Great points. Great
1:07:53
points. And a great podcast for this evening.
1:07:57
Great podcast. Anything you guys want to say?
1:08:01
No, that's what an end quote is for. Put an exclamation
1:08:05
point on it. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going
1:08:07
to close this one out for this evening. As always,
1:08:12
I'm the Sigma Male. Brian Morgan, along with
1:08:15
the family, Siren and Soccer Cheese, coming at
1:08:18
you from the Bull Brotherhood podcast. We will
1:08:22
see you another time soon. Hopefully within the
1:08:27
next week, correct? Yes, sir. All right. And
1:08:31
as always, in signing off, to my brothers of
1:08:36
the Brotherhood out there, good night. And to
1:08:39
my sexy sirens. hot wives and unicorns. Good
1:08:44
morning. Until we meet again, y 'all. This brotherhood's
1:09:10
for men whose stories need to get told. Say it
1:09:13
loud. Say it loud. This is who we are. Bold,
1:09:18
confident, seductive. Dominant and classy. We
1:09:22
stand tall, never fall. Bold brotherhood. Luxury
1:09:28
untold.