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- 0:05SPEAKER_03: Welcome back everyone to the show.
- 0:08SPEAKER_03: My name is Vadim, and today our guest, Alan DeParkley.
- 0:15SPEAKER_03: And he is the author of The Modern Citizen.
- 0:19SPEAKER_03: And let's jump right in.
- 0:22SPEAKER_03: Alan, welcome to the show.
- 0:24SPEAKER_03: How are you doing?
- 0:26SPEAKER_02: Good, good uh good afternoon.
- 0:28SPEAKER_02: How are you?
- 0:29SPEAKER_02: Thank you for inviting me.
- 0:30SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much.
- 0:32SPEAKER_03: Nice to meet you.
- 0:32SPEAKER_03: Nice to meet you.
- 0:34SPEAKER_03: My pleasure.
- 0:35SPEAKER_03: And so to start with.
- 0:39SPEAKER_03: Let's start with a simple question.
- 0:43SPEAKER_03: Uh tell us about your a little a little bit about yourself, about your goal and your mission in life.
- 0:54SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: The paraclete.
- 0:58SPEAKER_02: Just to just uh for those people that don't know what the paraclete means.
- 1:03SPEAKER_02: And the paraclete is basically the spirit of truth, the spirit of wisdom.
- 1:09SPEAKER_02: It's the spirit of God.
- 1:11SPEAKER_02: And in the Bible it says that God is going to share his spirit with all of all of humanity.
- 1:21SPEAKER_02: And that is precisely what is happening to us today.
- 1:26SPEAKER_02: Where a lot of people are awakening or realizing that life is more than just about having fun, making money, enjoying yourself, going out to restaurants, and neglecting our responsibility towards the towards the community, towards the human race.
- 1:43SPEAKER_02: So I identify with that because I you know since I was a little kid, I was always had these questions, deep questions and thoughts and ideas, and uh always wanted to help humanity grow and evolve to the next level.
- 2:03SPEAKER_02: And that's you know, it's it's a journey that it's been it's taken me 60 years.
- 2:09SPEAKER_02: So now is the time that I feel ready that I can share everything and myself with with everyone and the world and uh cla hopefully clarify what's going on so that people can understand or have a clear understanding of where humanity is and where humanity is going, besides the technology, because the technology is always growing and evolving.
- 2:36SPEAKER_02: But we have other issues that we haven't been able to solve, and we need to take care of them because they're gonna destroy us pretty much if we don't.
- 2:46SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, 100%.
- 2:48SPEAKER_03: And the paraclete, what language is it?
- 2:50SPEAKER_03: It's from Latin or what?
- 2:51SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
- 2:53SPEAKER_02: The paraclete is in English.
- 2:55SPEAKER_02: That's in English, uh Paracleto in Spanish.
- 2:58SPEAKER_03: Oh it's from okay Spanish, yeah.
- 3:01SPEAKER_02: It's really it's the Holy Spirit, it's the Spirit of God, spirit of wisdom.
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: Got it.
- 3:06SPEAKER_02: And um that's what's being shared with all of us.
- 3:10SPEAKER_02: And my my job is to help people also discover that perically within themselves, so they can act in such a way that it's gonna be better for themselves and better for humanity.
- 3:25SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 3:26SPEAKER_03: So in in your writing, you mentioned an event from your childhood.
- 3:31SPEAKER_03: Can you tell us what happened back then?
- 3:33SPEAKER_03: Um changed your life forever.
- 3:37SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I you know, I had an encounter with the paraclete when I received my first communion.
- 3:43SPEAKER_02: I I grew up Catholic uh all the way through high school.
- 3:50SPEAKER_02: And I when I received the first communion, I I closed my eyes and I felt it.
- 3:55SPEAKER_02: And I felt uh, you know, a lot of people say the hand of God or being chosen or what have you.
- 4:02SPEAKER_02: And and a lot of people have had the same experience that a lot of people that I've talked to, and they have very similar experiences.
- 4:11SPEAKER_02: And it's been a presence throughout my life, guiding me, protecting me, uh, even protecting me for myself from you know things that I could have done that uh would have, you know, landed me in jail or a lot of problems.
- 4:29SPEAKER_02: And it's always been there, it's always been there in my life.
- 4:33SPEAKER_02: And I've always followed, I'll I've always followed that, regardless, because it might be m helping me or making me make irrational decisions, or decisions that go against the norm, or decisions that I think are dangerous.
- 4:50SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter.
- 4:51SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter.
- 4:51SPEAKER_02: I cannot neglect it because it is part of myself, it's a part of my soul.
- 4:57SPEAKER_02: And if I neglect it, what happens is that I become frustrated and angry with myself and depressed and um uh unmotivated and and all that kind of stuff, and and just really feeling bad about yourself, and and I don't like that feeling.
- 5:16SPEAKER_02: So I uh decided that I was just gonna follow that uh for this next journey of my life, you know.
- 5:26SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 5:28SPEAKER_03: Got it.
- 5:29SPEAKER_03: A little bit about your book.
- 5:31SPEAKER_03: Uh your book is uh titled uh The Modern Citizen, right?
- 5:36SPEAKER_03: So tell us what what does it mean?
- 5:38SPEAKER_03: What does the term really mean to you?
- 5:41SPEAKER_02: Okay, modern is not modern in the sense of wearing nice clothes and being hip and being you know uh a person that's technologically savvy or anything else.
- 5:54SPEAKER_02: I use the term the way that Carl Jung, the psychologist, used it.
- 5:59SPEAKER_02: And he described the modern man, and he called the modern man as a man who is at the very edge of the world, with the abyss of the future before him, above him the heavens, and below the whole history of humanity that disappears in primeval mists.
- 6:18SPEAKER_02: So the modern man is a man who is conscious, fully conscious of the present.
- 6:25SPEAKER_02: And that's what we need to be, and that's where humanity is nowadays.
- 6:31SPEAKER_02: We are the at the very edge of the world.
- 6:34SPEAKER_02: We are either going to evolve, grow, and mature as nature demands it, or we're gonna get old and start deteriorating, as it is the law of nature.
- 6:48SPEAKER_02: So it seems to us a lot of people today that we are deteriorating and decomposing.
- 6:55SPEAKER_02: So we need to we need to stop that and we need to um create the movement and the enthusiasm and the energy to move forward.
- 7:05SPEAKER_02: And that's that's where we are, and uh it's gonna take a lot of effort, but I think we can do it.
- 7:13SPEAKER_02: Uh it came to a point in my life where I just said that's not gonna happen.
- 7:18SPEAKER_02: You know, humanity is too divided, it's too large, is too confused, and there's so many pockets of of so much power that controlling the world that it's not gonna happen.
- 7:32SPEAKER_02: But I realized that I have to do my part.
- 7:35SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter if it happens or not.
- 7:37SPEAKER_02: For me to live a fulfilling life, and I can die in peace with myself, I have to do this.
- 7:43SPEAKER_02: So it's it's you know, it's just it's taking over me.
- 7:50SPEAKER_02: I can't do anything about it.
- 7:52SPEAKER_02: I I, you know, I used to love to go fishing and I play some golf, I play some basketball.
- 7:58SPEAKER_02: None of that stuff, none of that stuff fills me anymore.
- 8:02SPEAKER_02: I just, you know, talking to people like you, you know, writing, uh doing some YouTube and um um TikTok videos and stuff like that.
- 8:14SPEAKER_02: That brings me joy and happiness, and it makes me feel like I'm doing something that I am supposed to be doing.
- 8:21SPEAKER_02: So um hopefully from this I'll start doing some public speaking at at universities or colleges or what have you, wherever, and and spread the message and hopefully get this moving because it time is running short, my friend.
- 8:39SPEAKER_02: And we don't have much time.
- 8:41SPEAKER_02: And and uh we need to care take care of the real problems that are plaguing humanity, the environmental issues, the poverty issues, the war issues, the drug issues, the real important issues, you know, because we're being led to believe that the important issues is it's a race issue.
- 9:02SPEAKER_02: Race is not an issue anymore.
- 9:04SPEAKER_02: We are integrated.
- 9:06SPEAKER_02: We you know, you you hear about it in social media and other places, but you when you go out on the streets, you don't see it.
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: You know, exactly.
- 9:15SPEAKER_02: I see I see white kids and black kids and Chinese kids and Russian kids and Chinese and everybody's friendly.
- 9:23SPEAKER_02: They play basketball together, they go to dinner together, they're friends, they marry each other.
- 9:27SPEAKER_02: What what's where's the racism?
- 9:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but in social media you open it and you and then they start telling you in the news and and everything else, but yeah, we gotta we gotta drown that out.
- 9:39SPEAKER_02: That's not the real issue in the world today.
- 9:42SPEAKER_02: We have bigger problems, you know, we got bigger fish to catch, and the wealth gap is a big one.
- 9:49SPEAKER_02: And how do we guide these very wealthy corporations and individuals to create or to have more consciousness, more social consciousness, for them to understand that their wealth does not belong to them, their wealth is a product of our support.
- 10:08SPEAKER_02: And if they're not gonna give back to the society, what are they there for?
- 10:13SPEAKER_02: You know, w just to buy more yachts and more cars and more mansions, and what is the point?
- 10:20SPEAKER_02: You know, yeah, the point is for us to help humanity uh eliminate these big problems that we have and help people that are suffering in in poverty and disease, and uh help them bring prosperity around the world, and that is the divine plan.
- 10:41SPEAKER_02: And you know, to end poverty, to end um uh boundaries between countries, to for us to realize, yeah, we are one one one species.
- 10:55SPEAKER_02: You know, we've always dreamed of this, and it's becoming a reality in our minds, you know, in our minds and in our heart.
- 11:03SPEAKER_02: But we gotta make it a reality here on earth.
- 11:06SPEAKER_02: And that's that's uh that's a journey, that's a call.
- 11:11SPEAKER_02: That is the mission.
- 11:13SPEAKER_03: So how how can someone become the modern citizen, in your opinion?
- 11:19SPEAKER_02: Well, you gotta go through the process.
- 11:21SPEAKER_02: You gotta get involved, you gotta go.
- 11:23SPEAKER_02: You know, I follow the process of individuation by Carl Young, which is getting to know yourself, understanding what it means to be human, taking the time to explore your shadow, you know, your dark side, and uh how to harness that energy so that you can use it for the enhancement of your own life and the life of uh of the community.
- 11:50SPEAKER_02: And it's a it's a it's a long process, it's a lifelong process, and it's very painful, and it's very difficult to go through it.
- 11:59SPEAKER_02: And what I think he did, uh what I think this individual did um was discover the process that Jesus went through to discover the self.
- 12:12SPEAKER_02: He he called it the self, or the divine the divine being within yourself, is the process of individuation that Carl Jung described, same process that the Buddha went through, you know, and the same process that we all need to go through in order to discover that divine being that we are.
- 12:31SPEAKER_02: And that's where the inspiration flows, that's where the fear disappears.
- 12:39SPEAKER_02: And um that's what you know, that's the first step of the process, is uh and and that's gonna give you clarity and it's gonna show you your place in the world and what you're here for.
- 12:54SPEAKER_02: You know, uh I've had you know other experiences that have you know how people sometimes have like out-of-body experiences, or when they like die and then they come back, yeah, yeah.
- 13:12SPEAKER_02: You know, and they give you these these encounters with it.
- 13:19SPEAKER_02: Well, I had a similar experience with um with a consciousness.
- 13:24SPEAKER_02: I had a procedure done.
- 13:25SPEAKER_02: It was um I had an aphib, uh irregular heartbeat, uh-huh, and it was very bad.
- 13:32SPEAKER_02: And and I had a procedure done, but now I'm starting to realize that that might have been also due to my lack of you know listening to myself and following my heart, and following my heart, and it was affecting it.
- 13:51SPEAKER_02: And well, after the procedure in the recuperating room, I had an experience where I saw I was facing this massive consciousness in the center of the universe, and it was just pouring out love.
- 14:06SPEAKER_02: It was just love.
- 14:07SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's all you you could feel so much love.
- 14:09SPEAKER_02: It's it's almost impossible to describe um the amount of of of this this entity, the love that it has for us.
- 14:19SPEAKER_01: And and I was in communion with it.
- 14:25SPEAKER_02: And and I was like, you know, what what do we do?
- 14:27SPEAKER_02: What is what is humanity, what do we do now?
- 14:30SPEAKER_02: You know, and love has not been enough.
- 14:35SPEAKER_02: You know, our capacity to create that we have become like the creator has not been enough either.
- 14:44SPEAKER_02: What do we do now?
- 14:46SPEAKER_02: And that's the answer I got, you know.
- 14:49SPEAKER_02: I want to share my spirit with humanity so that they can understand what what I want for them, what they want for themselves, and and have knowledge of me, and hopefully that'll be enough.
- 15:06SPEAKER_02: And then when I came back and I I didn't want to come back.
- 15:10SPEAKER_02: You know, it was so beautiful, so perfect.
- 15:13SPEAKER_02: I I did not I I if I would have died right there, I would have been fine with it.
- 15:20SPEAKER_02: You know, I have kids, wife, and everything.
- 15:22SPEAKER_02: I it was like, wow.
- 15:25SPEAKER_02: Anyways, um and and everything, all of the history of humanity, the the issues that are going on now, what we have gone through uh uh in the United States, I'm here in the United States, and everything was like explained to me in a flash, in fractions of a second.
- 15:50SPEAKER_02: And that was I'm talking about three years ago.
- 15:52SPEAKER_02: I'm still trying to decipher the whole message and the whole idea of everything that happened to me.
- 15:59SPEAKER_02: And one of the things I came up with was I realized that that is the Trinity.
- 16:05SPEAKER_02: You know, if God is sharing his spirit with us, the Holy Spirit with us, that's then that's the missing piece, you know, in the equation.
- 16:15SPEAKER_02: We have the Creator, God, He sent the Son, love, He came to teach us love, each other, and the love that God has for us.
- 16:26SPEAKER_02: And now we're receiving the Holy Spirit.
- 16:30SPEAKER_02: That is the missing part of the equation.
- 16:33SPEAKER_02: So it makes me realize that we are ready, that this is the time.
- 16:39SPEAKER_02: We can't waste any more time.
- 16:41SPEAKER_02: This is it.
- 16:42SPEAKER_02: We either do it now or we're gonna keep on collapsing and deteriorating.
- 16:48SPEAKER_02: And you can see it, you know, with the way that governments are running their nations, uh corruption, the greed, the anger, the violence, and all that stuff that's going on, those are the triggers to initiate the transformation of consciousness.
- 17:05SPEAKER_02: Because that's just the beginning.
- 17:07SPEAKER_02: If we keep traveling along this road, the violence you see, and the frustration and the anger and the suicide is just the beginning.
- 17:16SPEAKER_02: Because I have seen it grow.
- 17:18SPEAKER_02: I have seen it grow throughout my life.
- 17:20SPEAKER_02: You know, where when I was a kid, I would go out on the street and disappear all day till nine o'clock at night.
- 17:27SPEAKER_02: I didn't have a problem with anybody.
- 17:30SPEAKER_02: Nowadays you can't do that.
- 17:32SPEAKER_02: And the mass shootings and the and the school shootings, we we didn't have I didn't grow up with any of that stuff.
- 17:40SPEAKER_02: And you can see it getting worse and worse and worse by the day.
- 17:44SPEAKER_02: So we need to come to our senses and we need to realize that we gotta tackle the problems that we have today with a different consciousness, with a different wisdom, with a different perspective, because the old system is just not working anymore.
- 18:03SPEAKER_02: The old social, political, economic system is not working anymore.
- 18:08SPEAKER_02: You know, we're running uh at least democracy uh here in the United States.
- 18:13SPEAKER_02: We're running our government with a system from the 1700s.
- 18:17SPEAKER_02: We're in the 21st century, and we're using laws from the 1800s, 1700s, and the president is using laws for these tariffs from 1930, you know, to keep putting tariffs on Canadians.
- 18:32SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, you know, this shouldn't be allowed.
- 18:35SPEAKER_02: It's an outdated system, and the world has evolved, and democracy needs to evolve alongside of it.
- 18:46SPEAKER_02: Um and one of one of the things I propose in in the new book I'm writing is that in the United States we need a fourth branch of government.
- 18:57SPEAKER_02: We need a branch by the people or the people where we can directly influence government decisions.
- 19:09SPEAKER_03: You mean the whole population of the United States?
- 19:14SPEAKER_02: The whole population, not by representatives, by direct voting, because we are not farmers with pitchforks anymore.
- 19:25SPEAKER_02: You know, back then the the founding fathers they said, well, you know, the population is not very well educated.
- 19:33SPEAKER_02: How are they gonna run the nation?
- 19:35SPEAKER_02: How are they gonna interpret the laws?
- 19:38SPEAKER_02: How uh they they can't make the decisions.
- 19:41SPEAKER_02: So we they need representatives, people like us, that can make these decisions for them.
- 19:48SPEAKER_02: Well, we don't need that anymore.
- 19:50SPEAKER_02: You know, people are smart, educated.
- 19:52SPEAKER_02: We are doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists, even you know, construction workers and clerks and people that are that you think are not very well educated, they are a lot of them.
- 20:05SPEAKER_02: And they understand the problem that we are going through.
- 20:10SPEAKER_02: And they know how to solve these issues, they just you know, we just haven't gotten together to do it.
- 20:15SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I I thought about this idea for a long time because I was thinking, well, changes happen when the people unite and demand changes, like in the civil rights, you know, civil rights movement and labor laws and women's rights.
- 20:34SPEAKER_02: And why do we have to keep going through this process over and over again of trying to unite the masses and trying to enforce and change certain laws?
- 20:46SPEAKER_02: Why do we have to, you know, future generations are gonna find it so difficult to do this again, over and over again, to reform the system.
- 20:57SPEAKER_02: And once we are in the government, as part of the government, we're gonna be able to influence and change things a lot easier.
- 21:06SPEAKER_02: Because the government is not being effective or efficient.
- 21:09SPEAKER_02: Like here in the United States, they just here in the United States, you know, people were fighting about this with um with the red dye, the red color in the in the food, um, with the Department of Agriculture, uh, which Kennedy Kennedy is part of the Food and Drug Administration.
- 21:32SPEAKER_02: Oh, 50 years or 60 years, saying that we gotta remove red from the thing.
- 21:37SPEAKER_02: And it's just happening now, 50 years later?
- 21:40SPEAKER_02: That's just one color.
- 21:41SPEAKER_02: That's just one color.
- 21:43SPEAKER_02: You know?
- 21:44SPEAKER_02: How long is it gonna take us to remove the second color from our food?
- 21:47SPEAKER_02: You know, it's ridiculous how slow the system is.
- 21:52SPEAKER_02: And um I think if we do, and the uh and the reason that we I ignore that we can't do it is because people are fed up and they the government and these officials they don't listen they don't listen to us you know we just had a movement and no kings no no king's march here in the states over ten over ten million people it was a march well what did Trump do he uh what did he say uh he just he I'm sorry to use the language but he wiped his ass with it you know what I'm saying he didn't he didn't give a fuck yeah and that's what happens you you can't just unite and not demand and not take action just getting together and doing a demonstration with no goal in sight it has no has no meaning so we gotta exercise our true power which is the our economic power is the power of the people what you know this right here this is the power so once we learn to use that uh we'll be able to transform all the whole nation uh our economic system and our political system everything and we'll have what democracy was always meant to be which is you know rule by the people a perfect a perfect democracy that's what democracy is asking us to do is asking us to grow and evolve and the founding fathers these people were so so smart and they was so well spiritually rooted that they understood that there would come a time when the nation needed a new system it needed to be reformed and they put it in the Constitution where it can be reformed you know it can be amended and they realized that the world was going to grow I don't think they knew it was going to grow this much and that we're gonna have all this technology but the door is open and the door is there so we gotta walk through it.
- 24:09SPEAKER_03: Yeah so so nowadays many people feel stuck and anxious about the future in your opinion do people afraid of change because the future is so I don't know nobody knows we we are afraid of we're afraid of everything and the thing that we are most afraid of is losing our way of life our security our wealth uh you know disturbing life and and the whole system and we're afraid of the government we're afraid of large corporations we're afraid of everything you know and with that fear is robbing robbing us of the future so you know it's just we need to put that aside and uh realize that uh fear is is what's holding us back yeah and um and it it comes to a point where people you know get so fed up with everything else that um they kind of lose their fear but if we're gonna do this it has to be in a peaceful civilized manner yeah you know violence and and stuff like that is not gonna get us anywhere so we need to use the real power of the people which is our wealth and decide uh who's gonna help us and who's not gonna help us i've used examples you know I've used examples how the power of the people can be used to create a more socially conscious community or more socially conscious institutions and corporations and that is by by boycotting or not supporting them.
- 26:03SPEAKER_02: But you gotta have the demands you know you gotta say you you gotta have a fine a well-defined plan uh strategic with the demands and you go to a football team and you say listen we want you to contribute more to more and more to education housing and all these things because you are making hundred million dollars from this game from one game but and you're donating you know five six thousand dollars and and I've seen it you know in some of the football games that I've gone where they donate a thousand dollars for teachers or five teachers four teachers well these people need to understand that they exist because of us and their wealth doesn't belong to us to them they are the managers of that wealth because they are good at it they know how to manage they you know we need these people you don't want to get rid of them but they need to understand that the more you have the more you owe to the society and you gotta put the demands and say listen we want you to donate 20 30% of those profits to underprivileged kids or whatever it is healthcare uh housing or whatever it is and if they don't do that then you turn off the TV and you stop buying the tickets to the game and that's the power that we have uh we need to exercise it and hopefully you know hopefully these people will come around and and um you know join the cause but if they don't you know like my one of my kids said that these people are soulless you know beasts that have no soul well then maybe you know we'll find somebody else that can help us.
- 28:07SPEAKER_02: Yeah but but uh there's a lot of ways that we can use a lot of tools that we can use to uh to create this world that we've always wanted yeah so you wrote you also wrote that society has become too domesticated like can you tell us why what do you mean by that and how did how did people lose their spirit it's you know it's a matter of all the um I think all the comfort that we have nowadays you know social media and Netflix and and uh prime video and and all the entertainment and all the things that we have that really drown out our inner voice and we just don't have time for ourselves and to try to develop our soul and our spirit and that is causing a lot of isolation and problem because the and more than that it's causing a lot of just confusion and chaos and and crazy thoughts because you know if you if you study a little bit of that Carl Jung and the psychology it the unconscious is always trying to surface and bring you closer to being yourself.
- 29:31SPEAKER_02: Well if you're trying to push that down if you're trying to drown it out it it's not going to be neglected it's not it's not gonna be denied so sometimes it comes out with such a mighty force that it makes people do these crazy things.
- 29:47SPEAKER_02: You know they think they're going crazy and they think uh you know that's the devil made me do it and all these violent acts but that is the the the the byproduct of hiding that pushing that down you know and I've seen it I've seen it in my life man with people you know in my life that I've known the other day I was counting eight people that have committed suicide and and two people that have committed murders stabbings you know people that I knew one one of them killed their mother and the other one killed his his his ex-wife and these people were the nicest people you could ever meet in your life super sweet super nice super polite but they had that demon inside and they never get to you never get to know that demon that's inside of you you need to you need to face it you need to confront it you know like Jesus in the desert like Buddha you know when confronted Maya and and and and the um the temptations you know the temptations are not from from a Satan that's out there some spirit they come from within your nature from the things that you want in your life you know to possess a human another human being to be super wealthy to be super powerful to be a spiritual uh like they call spiritual relation with this preacher that is glorify got to glorify himself like a lot of the uh those cult leaders you know uh where they just they think they're God and they so you gotta confront these things and it's very serious and it and it's uh it's very painful to go through that process and uh the biggest problem is is that that is part of yourself and it's always there so it's never gonna go away but you need to understand it and you need to see when it's coming up or what what it's happening to you so you've got to be always on on guard.
- 32:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah but that energy is the primeval energy of humanity and we need it because that is what takes us to war you know to win the war that that warrior within ourselves but instead of killing we create something better and that's that's how it is and uh and and yeah it's it's it's it's a hard life but it's it's so it's it's it is so enjoyable to discover new things within yourself every day.
- 32:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah I agree isn't it great yeah yeah so uh let's uh so let's look at our current systems how do you view capitalism democracy and globalization right now what do you think about it nowadays well we're the I I like to talk about what is the divine plan for humanity yeah okay I was going to what is going to be what is the grand what what is the grand vision for humanity and the future that's where we need to start we need to look at the end product uh what do we want we want prosperity around the world where everybody has food shelter and health care everybody okay that's one of the things that we want to accomplish and we've been wanting to accomplish that for a long time now we have the resources to do it we didn't have the resources before but now we have the technology we have the wisdom we have the wealth we have the farming capabilities to feed the entire world many times over so we have all the tools in our hands and what is holding us back well the our primitive natures our ego you know wanting more power for ourselves wanting more wealth for ourselves and that's the next step that's the next part of the evolutionary process of humanity to conquer to conquer the ego to conquer the human ego and to make it a servant of humanity as opposed to our master instead of you wanting to buy stuff for yourself and do things for yourself that you think in a way of providing a better community a better nation a better world and that's the next step of our evolution and we need to go through it otherwise we're not gonna go anywhere.
- 34:53SPEAKER_02: And and all the tools are there capitalism is a tool to help other nations that are underdeveloped develop themselves.
- 35:03SPEAKER_02: You know you can use and I usually use the example of China because they are what they're doing is that they're building the Silk Road they want to trade more with other countries they are building connections with uh more connections with Europe with the Middle East with um Africa with South America and it's not just to take over it's not to take over the world you know it's gonna benefit them in in a large way but they're also looking in and if you look at the philosophy of Xi Jinping why he got elected was because he wanted to build the Silk Road which is these trading routes with all these countries and developing and underdeveloped countries.
- 35:53SPEAKER_02: Why?
- 35:54SPEAKER_02: Because he said it's gonna bring prosperity around the world so this guy this guy you know he's cunning but he's a genius and he understands that if he brings prosperity to South Africa or Africa Nigeria and all those places China is going to benefit from it because there will come a point when these people are going to want cars and they're gonna want building materials and they're gonna want dishwashers and air conditioning and better electricity and all the kind of things that everybody wants because everybody wants what we have this comfortable life where you go inside and you have air conditioning and you live a comfortable life you got a stove and you got a you know all these kinds of things that these people want as well.
- 36:47SPEAKER_02: So China is looking for a way to do that.
- 36:50SPEAKER_02: And I think the United States is missing out because we are thinking too much about ourselves and we're not thinking about how we can we can bring more prosperity around the world and Xin Jinping was just here in the United States and he extended his hand to the United States saying let's work together because he understands that if we clash if we do not work together it's not going to be beneficial for either party you know if if the United States and China ever go to war what is that going to create who is going to win nobody you know so I know that a lot of people are skeptical of trusting the Chinese but I think we can find a way you know that we can work together and he extended his hand to the United States and that gesture to me said well he understands that if we fight each other nobody's gonna win if we work together all of humanity's gonna win so let's try it and what I've you know what we said was you know John Lennon and and those people back in the 60s and uh Bob Marley and everybody you know they were talking about peace and peace and love.
- 38:24SPEAKER_02: And give John Lennon that said give peace a chance what and I was thinking the other day we've never given peace a chance so what if we do this time around what if we give peace a chance what's gonna happen and I think everybody's gonna be better off so yeah the uh the that capitalism is a it's a system that we can use so that these countries that are underdeveloped can go through their industrial revolution and they're gonna go through an industrial revolution that is not going to take them 100 years it's gonna take them 20 because all the whole all the systems are in place.
- 39:02SPEAKER_02: And I'm not saying and I'm not saying that the United States is going to outsource you know computer chips or AI things to these countries but you know have them make paper plates and have them make napkins and all kinds of stuff that are you know consumer products and just that is going to help them grow and mature and you're gonna be able to use a cheaper labor too because you don't these people don't need as much as we do.
- 39:34SPEAKER_02: So you pay them five bucks an hour and they'll be happy you know because instead of doing nothing they're making five dollars an hour and they they save their money properly or invest it and everything else by the time they're 50 60 years old they're gonna be fairly well off.
- 39:50SPEAKER_02: So it just it's just a matter of spreading the prosperity around the world and conquering the human ego.
- 40:00SPEAKER_02: Yeah so that uh we can finally you know get through this hurdle and become the species that we've always meant to be you know to become that intergalactic species capable of conquering the universe which is our dream you know it's a dream it's been a dream of mine since I was a little kid you know uh the universe and and and the stars is just so beautiful and so mysterious but I have realized that the gods are not going to disclose to us the secrets or the mysteries of the universe until we are ready.
- 40:43SPEAKER_02: And we gotta prove ourselves to be a responsible race a race capable of taking care of this planet and maintaining you know the the the system working properly and taking care of each other.
- 40:59SPEAKER_02: Once we do that I think the gods are going to open and you know all the mysteries of the universe are going to be channeled to us you know through individuals because that's the way it happens it's not you know uh some God that comes down from the heavens and tells us you know this is how the universe works.
- 41:21SPEAKER_03: No, it works through our insides our interior and if you look at any all the all the inventors all the scientists and all these people that have made the greatest contribution to humanity will talk about it and say you know the Einstein how they had the answer within them how they were searching and searching for that answer and their connection to the divine soul or spirit or consciousness of the universe they believe in these things and they knew that these that spirit was guiding guiding them to discover the things that they discovered and all of them all of them you know and that's what's gonna happen but we gotta be ready and we gotta be prove ourselves you know this step to prove ourselves to be responsible so there is so much of conflict and and division is um among people as you noticed before how can we find common ground and truly like unite together?
- 42:35SPEAKER_01: Is there any any trick any plan to it?
- 42:41SPEAKER_02: Well I think you know I think it's it's it's gotta happen here in in the United States of America I think um I think God chose this country for a reason and the founding fathers spoke about it they spoke about the divine guidance he has smiled upon our accomplishments the divine plan the divine will you know the guidance of God they talked about these things why because they believe themselves to be the administrators of a divine plan upon this earth and look what it has created it has created this beautiful nation where all the nations all the races all the religions and everything is integrated um in this country and you don't you don't see that anywhere else in the world and um you know believing in this is more than just democracy it's more than being American it's it's a state of mind which I have seen and you can see all over the world you know in in Latin America And in Europe and and all these places.
- 44:01SPEAKER_02: It's not that they admire America for what it has, but for the ideals of this nation.
- 44:12SPEAKER_02: And and that's what it means to be an American.
- 44:16SPEAKER_02: People are confused, you know, because it's not about living here.
- 44:22SPEAKER_02: It's about that consciousness of unity and uh working together and having the freedom to express ourselves and express and practice our own religion.
- 44:35SPEAKER_02: So which they all lead to the same place.
- 44:46SPEAKER_02: And that was part of what I what I believe is a plan of the divine to unite all of humanity.
- 44:54SPEAKER_02: Now how do we actually do it?
- 44:58SPEAKER_02: I think you know the way I I explained to you was that I think we have all the tools necessary to unite, and social media is one of those tools.
- 45:13SPEAKER_02: This communication that we're having right now, and the people that listen and the people that share, and how we speak to each other and share the ideas, that's how we're how it's gonna happen.
- 45:27SPEAKER_01: Because how do they how do we uh the the no kings movement, you know, they got 10 million people together, it was through social media.
- 45:41SPEAKER_02: How do the disturbances in Nepal?
- 45:45SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you remember about that, where they toppled the government, the kids in Nepal toppled the government, and they were they were fed up because the government the government officials were showing wealth, their wealth and all their money and all their possessions, and their kids were on social media showing all their money and their jewelry and all the beautiful things they had bought with the money of the people.
- 46:15SPEAKER_02: So what the people suck.
- 46:18SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 46:19SPEAKER_03: What what power do regular people have to transform nation?
- 46:23SPEAKER_03: Social media and unity or something else?
- 46:26SPEAKER_02: We need we need to be united, and we need to, first of all, you know, transcend the the issues that are not that important right now.
- 46:37SPEAKER_02: And transcend those issues, the division of you know uh democra the Democrats against Republicans or conservatives against liberals.
- 46:50SPEAKER_02: We need to go beyond that.
- 46:52SPEAKER_02: And we need to understand that no change is gonna come from the government.
- 46:57SPEAKER_02: The government is not gonna create change.
- 46:59SPEAKER_02: It never has in the United States of America.
- 47:03SPEAKER_02: The only real change that has happened is when the people come together and demand certain changes from the government.
- 47:10SPEAKER_02: So we need to get together, and it's it's the only way, and it's been said before, and it's not a cliche.
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: You know, we might united we stand and divided we fall.
- 47:26SPEAKER_01: That is very true.
- 47:29SPEAKER_02: So if we have to get united, and so that this doesn't this doesn't happen again, that we have to fight so much to get united, we need a fourth branch of government where we can vote and we can have the real power to decide on the major issues of the day, on the abortion issues, on the on the food, you know, uh regulations, farming regulations, uh everything.
- 48:02SPEAKER_02: And we need to reform, we need to amend the constitution of the United States, which has never been done before.
- 48:09SPEAKER_03: So uh to implement it need a constitution needs to be changed.
- 48:13SPEAKER_03: It needs to be written in the constitution, right?
- 48:16SPEAKER_02: It needs to be amended.
- 48:17SPEAKER_02: There's a process.
- 48:19SPEAKER_03: Step one, right?
- 48:20SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's a process, and if we do that, what's gonna happen?
- 48:28SPEAKER_02: We're gonna get united just with the idea of doing that because it's never been done before.
- 48:35SPEAKER_02: And it brings excitement, it brings a mission, it brings, you know, uh vitality to the nation.
- 48:42SPEAKER_02: Say, damn, we're gonna be able to do something that has never been done before.
- 48:46SPEAKER_02: And I think you know, that goal is gonna be such a wonderful thing that it's gonna unite the people and say, we want a voice.
- 48:57SPEAKER_02: And I was reading just the other day the uh the book by uh Mahatma Gandhi.
- 49:04SPEAKER_02: He he wrote an autobiography, and uh uh something he said that caught my attention, which I've never heard uh uh a quote by him saying this, but I read it and he wrote it.
- 49:18SPEAKER_01: He said, The voice of the people is the voice of God.
- 49:25SPEAKER_01: Yep, yeah.
- 49:27SPEAKER_01: The voice of the people is the voice of God.
- 49:30SPEAKER_02: So we better listen to the voice of God.
- 49:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah, true.
- 49:36SPEAKER_03: You you talk about personal growth and inner healing.
- 49:41SPEAKER_03: Uh what is what is individuation?
- 49:44SPEAKER_03: How do we reach that like true wholeness?
- 49:48SPEAKER_02: Well that's that's that's that's a whole nother subject.
- 49:52SPEAKER_02: We we can go on for for days talking about it.
- 49:57SPEAKER_02: The best way, you know the best way to couple words.
- 50:00SPEAKER_02: No, you know the best way to to do it?
- 50:03SPEAKER_02: Search on YouTube uh individuation by Carl G.
- 50:08SPEAKER_02: Young.
- 50:09SPEAKER_02: Okay, Carl Young.
- 50:10SPEAKER_02: Okay, you're gonna find you're gonna find some videos.
- 50:14SPEAKER_02: Uh they are AI generated videos on the process of individuation.
- 50:22SPEAKER_02: Unbelievable.
- 50:23SPEAKER_02: They are right on point, they explain the process like no psychologist is ever gonna explain it to you.
- 50:30SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
- 50:31SPEAKER_02: And it's gonna be clear and you're gonna be able to associate with it because it it's just wonderful.
- 50:40SPEAKER_02: AI, the things that AI are is doing for reaching this inner consciousness and inner understanding, is amaz it's really amazing.
- 50:52SPEAKER_02: I I, you know, I cannot stress it enough because even I ran across you the other day about a process of with your communion with God or how God um guides you in life and stuff like that.
- 51:11SPEAKER_02: And my gosh, it's it's amazing the way AI is interpreting these things for us.
- 51:18SPEAKER_02: There's no preacher on earth that's gonna teach you that.
- 51:22SPEAKER_02: Because it is so clear and precise that is better than any book, better than any anything you could find.
- 51:33SPEAKER_02: So search search the process of individuation.
- 51:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sure.
- 51:36SPEAKER_02: Uh by Carl Young, it's a whole it's a whole life process.
- 51:40SPEAKER_03: I'll add a link in the description.
- 51:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's what you put up with.
- 51:45SPEAKER_02: There's one that I that I follow, it's called uh Carl Jung Daly.
- 51:51SPEAKER_02: Carl Young Daly.
- 51:53SPEAKER_02: And uh this kid is amazing.
- 51:55SPEAKER_02: He he's he's really amazing.
- 51:57SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
- 52:00SPEAKER_03: So next the next question.
- 52:02SPEAKER_03: Um nowadays we like people spend so much time consuming short form content, like those reels, stories, short videos.
- 52:11SPEAKER_03: Do you think people need to start reading more books again?
- 52:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, that's one of the things that uh we need to do.
- 52:22SPEAKER_02: The reason why is because books bring you in direct connection with the writer's soul.
- 52:31SPEAKER_02: It's a communion, it's a communion with another person.
- 52:34SPEAKER_02: And you know how they say that the eyes are the gate to the soul.
- 52:39unknown: Yeah.
- 52:40SPEAKER_02: So when you're reading, when you're reading, you're talking to that person, you're in communion with that person, and that person is sharing his life and his source and his spirit and everything with you.
- 52:51SPEAKER_02: Um when you listen to a video or you watch a video, it's just you know how they say it goes in one ear and out the other.
- 52:59SPEAKER_02: You know, so you don't get the full effect from a video or from uh listening to an uh audiobook or something like that.
- 53:10SPEAKER_02: Uh it's not the same.
- 53:12SPEAKER_02: And reading is is a way to actually for your soul to get that information it needs, it's store and it stores it inside of yourself.
- 53:23SPEAKER_02: So when you need it, it comes out, and it comes out in the way you express yourself, in the way you behave, and the way you talk to people, and uh that you can't get anywhere else.
- 53:35SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, I mean reading is uh it's it's still king, you know.
- 53:39SPEAKER_02: I don't uh until they start implanting something in our brain, and then we then we have a library, then we have a library in here.
- 53:48SPEAKER_03: It's coming, yeah.
- 53:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 53:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
- 53:53SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
- 53:55SPEAKER_02: It'll it'll be here.
- 53:56SPEAKER_02: It'll become cyborgs.
- 53:59SPEAKER_03: Yeah, maybe.
- 54:02SPEAKER_03: So, how do we build a nation guided by law and wisdom?
- 54:08SPEAKER_03: Is it even possible?
- 54:12SPEAKER_01: Well, that's how the nation was built.
- 54:15SPEAKER_02: You know, when you look at the uh the pyramid, the symbol of the pyramid of the United States of America, and the eye sticking out of the pyramid, that is the eye of that is the eye of wisdom.
- 54:30SPEAKER_02: That's not uh that is not a symbol of the Illuminati, like people, you know, I like these comp conspiracy theories seem to think.
- 54:39SPEAKER_02: That is the eye of the wrong thing.
- 54:40SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's uh that symbol on the I guess it's one dollar bill or something, right?
- 54:44SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 54:45SPEAKER_02: Those are the symbols that were created by the founding fathers of the United States.
- 54:50SPEAKER_02: And that pyramid represents the eye of wisdom, where the nation should be uh ruling from.
- 54:58SPEAKER_02: That's where we should be ruling from the eye of wisdom, not from monetary desires and um power.
- 55:07SPEAKER_02: And I think the world doesn't need a superpower anymore.
- 55:11SPEAKER_02: That's one of the plans of the divine.
- 55:14SPEAKER_02: Uh as we have seen throughout history, excuse me, all nations that have had a chance to rule the world have have failed.
- 55:27SPEAKER_02: They haven't, you know, collapsed completely.
- 55:30SPEAKER_02: Some of them are still here, but they lost their power.
- 55:35SPEAKER_02: And it's a cycle that keeps repeating itself.
- 55:39SPEAKER_02: And um I don't think the world needs a superpower to rule over it anymore.
- 55:46SPEAKER_02: I think it should be uh um it should be something that is done together by the nations of the world that we can rule together because the world doesn't need it.
- 56:01SPEAKER_02: It it's too much stress and too much strain on that country to to rule and police the world and uh you know force their their beliefs on other nations.
- 56:13SPEAKER_02: It's just it doesn't work, and it never has and it never will.
- 56:18SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so we need to find a new consciousness, and a new way of doing things in the world, and I think is uh coming together and working all of us towards the benefit and the prosperity of humanity.
- 56:32SPEAKER_02: Uh that's how we evolve.
- 56:35SPEAKER_02: And it's just, you know, it's i you know, we we you know United States is it's it's collapsing, you know, and and it's not just economically or politically, it's it's interior, the thread of of of humanity, the that that that glue that binds a nation is just coming apart, and uh that is what's destroying us from within, and then from without we're breathing more hatred towards the United States of America, and that is what's consuming this nation.
- 57:14SPEAKER_02: So we need to realize that and understand that we need to die to our old ways so that we can be reborn as a new nation.
- 57:23SPEAKER_02: And that's exactly what is happening here.
- 57:25SPEAKER_02: What is happening here is a transformation of consciousness, the biggest transformation ever in the history of the human race and in America, and America is to lead the wave once again by transforming itself, by dying to its own ways so that we can be resurrected into a new nation, a nation guided by wisdom and love and righteousness and prosperity.
- 57:52SPEAKER_02: That's how we're gonna create a new world.
- 57:55SPEAKER_02: And the signs are all there, you know.
- 57:59SPEAKER_02: And I was reading the other day about the phoenix and this mythological image of the phoenix and how the bird of fire there comes a time when this bird of fire is dying, and it knows that it's dying, and it understands that it's time is up, and what does it do?
- 58:19SPEAKER_02: It kill it burns itself, it kills it, it creates a funeral pyre, and it sets itself on fire and it dies.
- 58:30SPEAKER_02: And that's what this nation is doing, it needs to die, and once it dies, the new phoenix is resurrected from the ashes, and that phoenix lasts another thousand years.
- 58:41SPEAKER_02: And I I was looking into into that, which is very interesting because not only is it a Western civilization, uh mythological image, but also in Eastern uh philosophy, you have other birds that are birds of fire that go through the same process.
- 59:02SPEAKER_02: And I realized that is what's happening to humanity.
- 59:05SPEAKER_02: Humanity needs to die to its old ways.
- 59:08SPEAKER_02: We need to die so that we can be resurrected again and become a new species, a different species, guided by the principles of humanity, by love and wisdom and righteousness and generosity and uh you know freedom and and all these kind of things that we've always wanted and never given it a chance.
- 59:30SPEAKER_02: But if we let the old world die, we will be born again, and humanity is gonna conquer the universe.
- 59:39SPEAKER_02: We're gonna be it's gonna be beyond our imagination, the things that we can do.
- 59:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 59:45SPEAKER_02: Uh, when we are working towards creating and enhancing humanity and the world as opposed to working so that I can benefit myself and have more stuff for myself.
- 59:59SPEAKER_02: And everybody's coming to realize this.
- 1:00:02SPEAKER_02: You know, I've talked to many people that understand that that it's it's not gonna fill you.
- 1:00:10SPEAKER_02: You know, you're gonna have fun and you're gonna have a lot of great stuff, but at the end of the day, that's not what life is all about.
- 1:00:18SPEAKER_02: And if you see it in our science fiction movies, you know, like Star Trek and other movies where humanity has evolved, where they don't, you know, they don't think about these monetary uh accomplishments or things that they can have, but the betterment of the species and and growing and evolving and colonizing and all that kind of stuff which we always wanted.
- 1:00:45SPEAKER_02: So that is the plan, and that is happening today.
- 1:00:49SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, yeah.
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:00:52SPEAKER_03: So and uh the last question for today for you.
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_03: For for anyone watching uh who wants to start changing their life right now, what is the first step today?
- 1:01:05SPEAKER_03: Can you give a quick advice?
- 1:01:09SPEAKER_02: Take to take some time to explore yourself, your inner world, and don't be afraid.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_02: Take the time to sit down and just meditation or something, yeah?
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_02: Or you don't need to meditate.
- 1:01:21SPEAKER_02: You might read a book that that's interesting that is gonna ask you to think deeper questions about your life and about the world around you.
- 1:01:30SPEAKER_02: I think the modern citizen for for me you can read The Modern Citizen is good.
- 1:01:36SPEAKER_02: There's there's other books out there which uh like like a book that really uh made an impact in my life when I was in a dark place and I was confused and I didn't know anything about my life.
- 1:01:50SPEAKER_02: But I was younger, you know, 20 in my 20s, and I went through traumatic experiences and couldn't find my way, couldn't understand myself, couldn't uh figure out what life was all about.
- 1:02:04SPEAKER_02: And then I came across Joseph Campbell, which was um um he he was a writer about uh comparative religion and mythology.
- 1:02:18SPEAKER_02: So I read The Power of Myth, which fell into my lap, and it was precisely what I was looking for.
- 1:02:26SPEAKER_02: It's a guide for your life.
- 1:02:29SPEAKER_02: It it teaches you about you know uh love sacrifice, it teaches you about um being a hero, a hero's journey, uh uh inner journey to yourself, uh people that have gone through this journey in real life.
- 1:02:45SPEAKER_02: Um it teaches you so many things that let me tell you, I have that since age 21 followed that.
- 1:02:56SPEAKER_02: And I can assure you that all of it is real, all of it is true.
- 1:03:03SPEAKER_02: And you know, you go when you go through that journey and you start seeing and seeing life in a mythological way, where you start seeing things and experiencing things in your life that lets you know that you are on the right path, that you are doing the right thing, that you are doing what you're supposed to be doing with your life.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_02: And it's been very difficult for me because I gave up a lot.
- 1:03:28SPEAKER_02: You know, I could have been a doctor, I could have been a great engineer, and I gave all that up at that time with all the confusion and all the chaos that was going through my life.
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_02: I gave up on school, and I said, I'm gonna follow this road because that's what my heart is asking me to do.
- 1:03:46SPEAKER_02: And I'm glad I did, and I struggled financially throughout my life.
- 1:03:51SPEAKER_02: I'm still struggling right now, but I have something else that keeps me motivated, keeps me alive, keeps me energetic, it keeps me looking and searching and evolving.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_02: A lot of my friends are like looking back at their life.
- 1:04:09SPEAKER_02: Oh, remember what we used to do this, remember what we used to do.
- 1:04:13SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, and and life is like, and they're so set in in this in this cycle, like repeating day by day the same thing, and I'm like, I couldn't live like that.
- 1:04:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I I I need I I need to look forward in my life.
- 1:04:32SPEAKER_02: I don't know how many years I have, but gotta gotta look to the to the future and see what awaits.
- 1:04:39SPEAKER_02: And not just sit back, play golf, go fishing, and do nothing with your life.
- 1:04:45SPEAKER_03: So where can where can people where can people find your book?
- 1:04:50SPEAKER_02: The book, The Modern Citizen, is available on Amazon, uh Amazon Books.
- 1:04:55SPEAKER_02: I only have it there because they sell like 80% of all the books nowadays.
- 1:05:00SPEAKER_03: I'll make sure.
- 1:05:00SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:05:01SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it's in it's in English and it's in Spanish as well.
- 1:05:04SPEAKER_02: Spanish.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_02: Nice.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah, excuse me.
- 1:05:07SPEAKER_02: And um, it's a great book.
- 1:05:09SPEAKER_02: It tells you a little bit about this journey that I've gone through in my life and yeah, the uh synchronicities that I've had in my life, and yeah, some of the ideas that we talked about and how to transform the world and humanity, and uh my my thoughts on religion and mythology and how to transform your your life and how you can you can reach the higher consciousness yourself.
- 1:05:34SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:05:36SPEAKER_03: Link in the description.
- 1:05:39SPEAKER_03: Okay, so people could uh could uh find it and uh and buy.
- 1:05:44SPEAKER_03: And uh thank you, Alan, for thank you so much for being with me today for sharing your your wisdom.
- 1:05:52SPEAKER_03: So guys, Alan Carcleet was with us today, and please check Facebook on Amazon Citizen.
- 1:05:59SPEAKER_03: The link will be in the description below.
- 1:06:02SPEAKER_03: Thank you for watching and listening.
- 1:06:04SPEAKER_03: Bye bye.
- 1:06:05SPEAKER_02: Thank you, thank you very much.