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Coronavirus and 5G · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Wait, true tru spr I'm che Hey, everybody, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Conspiracy the Show.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Adam Todd Brown. Who are you?
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  Speaker 3: Connor mcspadden back in the trap, Happy to be here
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  Speaker 3: with everybody once again. Hell yeah. Trying to time my
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  Speaker 3: drink of water before I get introduced as Adam as
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  Speaker 3: soon as Adam snaps in the business mode when he
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  Speaker 3: goes into the show and I go, fuck, I gotta
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  Speaker 3: get some water down before I got to start talking.
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  Speaker 3: It's tradition, old CTS tradition. I'll you bad man, I've been.
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  Speaker 3: I've been alright, dude, just just hold up in hollywoods
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  Speaker 3: trunded by zombie high beasts and trying to keep on
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  Speaker 3: keeping on. How about you, man, I've I've got it
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  Speaker 3: on good authority that you've been putting down two bags
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  Speaker 3: of tabletop vape weed today. So what's the day looking
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  Speaker 3: like for you?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like too full?
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  Speaker 3: Then they come out in these big fucking bags. Like
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  Speaker 3: how big is the bag? When you get it blown
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  Speaker 3: all the way.
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  Speaker 4: Up, it's pretty substantial. It looks like circus cotton candy
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  Speaker 4: or something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So two of those, fuck man, that's
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  Speaker 3: just a lot of just like the cubic air of
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  Speaker 3: a room. It's a significant amount, you know, it's a.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of weed.
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  Speaker 3: I did that once, like all the air in a
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  Speaker 3: refrigerator's worth of weed.
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  Speaker 4: I did two bags in a row, and you know, thinking,
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  Speaker 4: I smoke a ton of weed already, so I'll be fine,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't smoke a ton of weed that way,
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  Speaker 4: And it kind of ended my day.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like at that point you could feel the
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  Speaker 3: five G waves, you'd be you'd be operating at like
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  Speaker 3: a neurological level where Okay, I'm now tuned into these
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  Speaker 3: I'm seeing ultraviolet light out of the corner of my eye.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we're talking about today. We did an
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  Speaker 4: episode about five G before.
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  Speaker 3: I believe we did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we did it with the guy from RT, yes
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  Speaker 4: Lee Camp, and probably got ourselves on a list of
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  Speaker 4: some sort. But here's the thing, we did it with
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  Speaker 4: someone from RT. We might be on a good list
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  Speaker 4: in Russia.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. You never I try to kind of
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  Speaker 3: play all sides of the fence here, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: Huela what whatever coup is going to take over and
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  Speaker 3: establish itself. It's like, well, look, I mean I might
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  Speaker 3: talk big on the internet, but I'm not going full
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  Speaker 3: into the cyberpunk anarchy life, like I'll have to sell
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  Speaker 3: out to a different man. And i want to see
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  Speaker 3: kind of which horses are lobbying for position.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to keep your options open. Yeah, this
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  Speaker 4: political climate. Yeah, we did that episode about five G
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  Speaker 4: and we're talking about five G again today, but we're
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  Speaker 4: talking about five G as it relates to coronavirus.
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  Speaker 3: My favorite thing about this kind of theory is that
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  Speaker 3: it's like people just argue that it has like a
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  Speaker 3: diet coke mentos effect that's invisible with this virus, Like
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  Speaker 3: it's just the combination of the two is is going
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  Speaker 3: it's going to activate something or people think it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be linked to the chip, the vaccine chip, to see
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  Speaker 3: if you're okay to enter the You won't be able
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  Speaker 3: to go to a sporting event or a concert or anything,
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  Speaker 3: or a grocery store if you don't have one of
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  Speaker 3: these things, and then they'll be and it's it's all
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  Speaker 3: certainly there. It's got all the ingredients. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: every it's a putting a chip in you, some new
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  Speaker 3: kind of sky net thing to try to track your
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  Speaker 3: every move. So it's it's it's compelling stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's you. Certainly you see how it's captivated the
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  Speaker 3: American imagination so quickly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those conspiracies where there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of moving parts that I don't necessarily disagree with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the basic idea.
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  Speaker 4: That five G causes coronavirus, I don't buy that, no,
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  Speaker 4: nor I.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's one of these things with anything. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's you look at something happening and you look at like, oh, like, well,
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  Speaker 3: who would benefit from this? And what are they doing
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  Speaker 3: to benefit from this? And they've obviously already got the
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  Speaker 3: wheels in motion, because that's what the forces in power
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  Speaker 3: do is they take advantage of these bad situations in
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  Speaker 3: order to further their agenda. And that's all started happening now,
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  Speaker 3: and now it makes it very difficult to tease out
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  Speaker 3: it like okay, well, just because they're playing it like
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  Speaker 3: it happened like this, does that mean it really happened
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  Speaker 3: like that or are they just trying to make you
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  Speaker 3: think it so they could do sneak over here and
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  Speaker 3: do this. It's all very convoluted and it's tough to
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  Speaker 3: tease out what's actually going on with all the shady
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  Speaker 3: shit that is coming out about people's response to the virus.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the concerns people have about governments exploiting this
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  Speaker 4: outbreak for authoritarian means, I think those are perfectly well founded.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're seeing that happen all over the fucking
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  Speaker 4: world right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very valid thing to be concerned about. Whitney
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  Speaker 3: Web actually did some really really cool independent journalist has
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  Speaker 3: had all these crazy you know. It broke some details
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  Speaker 3: about the Maria Farmer's accounts of the abuse of Jeffrey
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  Speaker 3: Epstein and had some very interesting stuff about some obscure
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  Speaker 3: government agency like the Bureau for Artificial Intelligence I think
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  Speaker 3: was something with that in there, and about how they've
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  Speaker 3: they've basically been pitching and she got this inventtion through
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  Speaker 3: Freedom of Information Act requests like a scenario where well, look,
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  Speaker 3: we got to stay competitive with China. This is a
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  Speaker 3: pretty good sort of framework to introduce a similar social
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  Speaker 3: credit score system. And you have to think, like, well,
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  Speaker 3: does it makes sense for them to do this so
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  Speaker 3: they can do that, or do they have a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of guys ready trying to figure out how to do
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  Speaker 3: that And this is one of the scenarios that they've
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  Speaker 3: accounted for, you know, like you have to do a
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  Speaker 3: little correlation causality work, you know, with some of this stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and just you know, be as aware of you can
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  Speaker 3: as what's of who's trying to you know, take advantage
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  Speaker 3: of it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's a thing that happens anytime there's
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  Speaker 4: a huge tragedy in this country.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Patriot Act went through Congress like three
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  Speaker 3: days after nine a lie. It was a crazy quick
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  Speaker 3: to write nine hundred page but you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, right that had like that was obviously they were
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  Speaker 4: just waiting for the moment to spring that on us,
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  Speaker 4: and regardless of how it happened, nine to eleven was
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  Speaker 4: the moment they needed to make that happen. And it's
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  Speaker 4: the same thing with coronavirus, Like it's almost beside the
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  Speaker 4: point who started it and how it got here. The
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  Speaker 4: things they're doing in response to it are the important part.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there's so many different I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: DNC capitalized on it certainly to kind of force Bernie's
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  Speaker 3: hand and force him out of the race by not
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  Speaker 3: postponing elections and putting people at risk and sort of
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  Speaker 3: tying it to the whole political contest with Joe Biden
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  Speaker 3: and the lead and basically, you know, putting on a
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  Speaker 3: situation where I think any moral person would have to go, well,
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  Speaker 3: I have the power to stop all these people from
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  Speaker 3: going to the polls and doing this, and it's obviously
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  Speaker 3: looking bad, so I'm gonna bow out. And you go like, well,
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  Speaker 3: the DNC didn't fucking cause coronavirus, just did. They just
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  Speaker 3: saw that just happened. Yeah, or maybe they did. I'm sure,
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  Speaker 3: Look who fucking knows. Somebody's got a hand and everything,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, they just saw how this was playing out,
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  Speaker 3: and like, oh, well, here's the chess move that we
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  Speaker 3: make with this fucking new board that we're all playing on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like we're gonna welcome a lot of it,
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  Speaker 4: like the social the contact tracing apps, Like if that
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  Speaker 4: gets us back to watching baseball games in the summer,
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  Speaker 4: motherfuckers will download that app to their phone and it's
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  Speaker 4: like all right, but then are they gonna turn it
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  Speaker 4: off after this epidemic is over or is it just
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  Speaker 4: gonna trace other things.
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  Speaker 3: I'm personally hoping that we get to see some sort
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  Speaker 3: of like Craig, you know there's different code for different
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  Speaker 3: kinds of Craigslist ads. I'm personally hoping there's finally one
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  Speaker 3: for someone who does like garage d chippings, you know
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  Speaker 3: where he'll like jail break your fucking coronach and you know,
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  Speaker 3: leave the part that boops you at the door, but
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  Speaker 3: get rid of the stuff that tracks you. And you
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  Speaker 3: know he's got like a weird black market Mexican surgery
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  Speaker 3: rig set up with trash cans and you know, formula
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  Speaker 3: four h nine and shit, it's just completely Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: think like that kind of thing is like probably going
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  Speaker 3: It's at least gonna happen once. There's gonna be a
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  Speaker 3: few crazy guys like you know, doing a little backyard
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  Speaker 3: surgery on this. That's where it's taking us.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the way technology is headed, people are gonna
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  Speaker 4: have to make some pretty big decisions like do you
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  Speaker 4: want your phone to be dust that's inserted into your
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  Speaker 4: head surgically, because yeah, if you do, you're gonna be
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  Speaker 4: like a superhuman and if you don't, you're not. You're
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  Speaker 4: just gonna be a dumb ass who's still carrying a
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  Speaker 4: phone around like a fucking peasant.
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  Speaker 3: All this neuralink stuff it's terrifying. Man. It's like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to adapt and become a
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  Speaker 3: you know, weird reddit akira God, then you know you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to be if you want to compete in
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  Speaker 3: the marketplace and get employment. And uh, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: very strange seeing what the experiences like for people, seeing
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  Speaker 3: who the experience is available to, and what limits and
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  Speaker 3: controls are placed on it by the people that invent
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  Speaker 3: it and market it and all this shit, and it's
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  Speaker 3: just gonna be it's just gonna boil down to a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of weird decisions you have to make. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: like looking at everything else you've got in your house,
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  Speaker 3: you're fucking Alexa your iPhone, and it's like, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you think you're probably gonna go along with it.
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  Speaker 3: You think you'll probably get there eventually, be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: fucking what, you know, I might as well just fucking
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  Speaker 3: get spied on and die with all my friends. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't really want to move to the woods, and
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  Speaker 3: you'd spam all the you know, like you want to
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  Speaker 3: participate in culture and society. You have some level of
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  Speaker 3: investment in the world. You have people with different, you know,
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  Speaker 3: So whatever it comes down to, it's gonna it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like the at least the health concerns around
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  Speaker 4: five G in their original form, because health concern is
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  Speaker 4: about five G pre date coronavirus by years.
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  Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, it's a new frequency of radiation that's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be in mass use everywhere. It's a valid thing to
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  Speaker 3: want to study the effects of. You know, it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: give a couple of labrats cancer. Make sure it's cool, and.
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  Speaker 4: That shouldn't surprise anyone. Every time there's a new generation
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  Speaker 4: of this technology, there's articles about the potential health risks
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  Speaker 4: of that technology. I found an article from Wired dot
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  Speaker 4: com from September two thousand and three.
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  Speaker 2: That was about the health risks of three.
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  Speaker 4: G signals and like, yeah, I'd rather die than use
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  Speaker 4: three G now, so.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they'll be like, look, and now it
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  Speaker 3: might seem tempting to download your sexy Lady wallpapers at
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  Speaker 3: a slightly faster pace than you've been accustomed to on
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  Speaker 3: your Samsung Flip device. But I just don't think it's
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  Speaker 3: it's prudent to introduce this level of radiation into civilized
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  Speaker 3: society like this it is kind of like this guy's
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  Speaker 3: always falling.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: You can always look back and like, oh, people have
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  Speaker 3: been predicting the end of the world forever, and it's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: at some point, like you know, things happen, like it falls,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes pieces of it falls sometimes like what is it
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  Speaker 3: really good? To fucking what is it really? You know?
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  Speaker 3: Is it six G? Is that when it's too fast?
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  Speaker 3: Is it? Like? What what are we gonna do? You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's and.
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  Speaker 4: The thing is like with something like three G it
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  Speaker 4: seems like, oh, yeah, well we survived it and we're fine.
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  Speaker 4: But none of this stuff has been around long enough
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  Speaker 4: for us to really know if it's completely healthy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how long does it take to get cancer
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  Speaker 3: from cigarettes? You know, like twenty years at least.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it'll it'll be a long time before we
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  Speaker 4: really know if vaping is bad for us, Like it
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  Speaker 4: seems better now, oh yeah, but it could end up
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  Speaker 4: being a thing in the future. I mean, that's those
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  Speaker 4: are dice. I'm willing to roll when it other option
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  Speaker 4: is smoking cigarettes.
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  Speaker 3: But you're talking to Kenny Rodgers himself over here, all right,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a cop, I get it.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's not surprising that people are looking for
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  Speaker 4: health concerns in five G. And I think it's that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of a separate issue from five G causes coronavirus, which, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that I find hard to believe that you.
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  Speaker 3: Could radiate a virus into somebody, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 3: like just with by shooting radiation, it's something create within
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  Speaker 3: them a virus that will populate itself and reproduce and attack,
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  Speaker 3: And it's just, well, how do you do that. I've
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  Speaker 3: never heard of anyone, you know, any other kind of
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  Speaker 3: like virus laser. I mean, I guess that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sounds like something that somebody's probably working on, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in a nondescript office park somewhere with some DARPA money.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know, it just seems a little I've
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  Speaker 3: seen nothing about it that's compelling in terms of an
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  Speaker 3: explanation for coronavirus causing five G or vice versas.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, And I feel like it's one of those conspiracy
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  Speaker 4: theories that's really easy to kind of shoot down right out.
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  Speaker 2: Of the gate.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because the reason people argue that coronavirus is caused
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  Speaker 4: by five G is there's this leap in logic where oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: five G was launched in Wuhan at the exact same
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  Speaker 4: time this virus started in Wuhan, So if only.
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  Speaker 3: It had been the Shamrock Shake, it would be a
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  Speaker 3: much funnier And.
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  Speaker 4: It's like it was launched for starters. It was launched
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  Speaker 4: in several cities at the same general time. The Chinese
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  Speaker 4: government made an announcement about that. But also it was
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  Speaker 4: commercially launched in November twenty nineteen, which means it had
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  Speaker 4: been tested for months and months and months before that.
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  Speaker 4: Where are all the cases from people getting it while
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  Speaker 4: it was being tested.
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  Speaker 2: You can't really have it both ways.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of one detail that's you know, it certainly
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  Speaker 3: tied to some shadowy people and agendas. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: a big new technology. Everyone wants a piece of that.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone wants to figure out who's going to buy that
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  Speaker 3: and what they're going to do with it. But just
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  Speaker 3: the fact that it was in the neighborhood of this
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  Speaker 3: happening and around the same time it uh, it's just
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  Speaker 3: all kind of gotten dredged together, and it's like, well, yeah, look,
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  Speaker 3: it's all interesting. It's gonna affect it in somewhere or other,
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  Speaker 3: but it's I certainly don't see like the point of
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  Speaker 3: like becoming a full on tinfoil hat kind of like
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  Speaker 3: lud Eye unobomber guy over it just because it's suspicious
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  Speaker 3: or interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it strikes me more as a coincidence than anything else.
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  Speaker 4: And like, if you've listened to this show enough, you
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  Speaker 4: know I'm not above believe in a conspiracy theory starting.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of Elvis truthers over.
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  Speaker 4: Here exactly, but like this just doesn't work for me, Like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't get how you explain the fact that this
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  Speaker 4: was being tested for Like Australia was testing five G
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  Speaker 4: in fucking twenty eighteen, Like where are all the cases
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  Speaker 4: leading up to the commercial launch?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a pretty big sample side in Australia,
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  Speaker 3: it's like four hundred five hundred people. I mean that
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  Speaker 3: should be enough to deduce at least some of the dangers.
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  Speaker 4: And I feel like if there's a conspiracy theory related
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  Speaker 4: to the rollout of five G, it's that it's not
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  Speaker 4: necessarily good for a government if all of their people
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  Speaker 4: have access to high speed internet, because it's a great
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  Speaker 4: way to oppress people, for one thing, If they don't
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  Speaker 4: have access to the same technology that the rest of
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  Speaker 4: the world does. Yeah, and it's a good like it's
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  Speaker 4: the same thing I always talk about how like a
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: lot of these right wing websites look like they were
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  Speaker 4: built to operate on Internet from nineteen ninety seven. And
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  Speaker 4: that's because when you get out into these rural areas
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  Speaker 4: that don't have high speed internet, those are the websites
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  Speaker 4: that are going to load faster as opposed to your
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  Speaker 4: fancy CNNs and.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you can get Drudge Report like that in a BlackBerry,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Like it's like fucking it's so simple, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So it makes sense for not just our government but
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  Speaker 4: any government to kind of encourage people in those areas
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  Speaker 4: to maybe hold off on adopting that right away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean it is like with with new
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  Speaker 3: technology and just when it becomes so integrated into work
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  Speaker 3: and our culture, it's like if you don't have it,
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  Speaker 3: it really you really are like kind of a peg
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  Speaker 3: down in life, Like if you don't if you don't
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  Speaker 3: have a smartphone, if you got to walk to the
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  Speaker 3: library to do your school work, I mean, it really
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  Speaker 3: fucks you. And if this is like the huge step
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  Speaker 3: forward that it's kind of being heralded as and you
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  Speaker 3: know I'm talking about it's kind of key artificial intelligence
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  Speaker 3: and transmitting such high speed, you know, high bitrate computations
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  Speaker 3: back and forth so quickly. It's going to unlock a
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  Speaker 3: lot of different crazy possibilities. And it kind of sounds
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  Speaker 3: like one of these things where it's like, well, if
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  Speaker 3: you don't have the three hundred books, sorry, what to
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: tell you. I mean, yeah, you can wait in line,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: then go use one at the city hall if you've
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: got to pay a parking ticket. But that's about it,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: you know, or whatever it is.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't think about computers and internet that way,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: but there's still a huge segment of the population that
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: doesn't have internet access and doesn't have You're even seeing
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: it with kids during coronavirus, like they're being asked to
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: learn at home, and some of these parents are like,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: I don't have a fucking computer, Like I don't I
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: can't get on a goddamn zoom meeting, I don't have
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: a laptop. And it's like that's where we're still at
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: in this country. And I feel like we wouldn't mind
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: keeping it that way for a while.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've never had a problem with just kind of
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: like compartmentalizing off a good twenty percent or whatever it
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: is of the people in this country are just going like, well,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: that's just how it works for them. It's really a shame,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: you know, Like that's about and that's about all that
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: ever happens.
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• 18:51
  Speaker 4: So the Conspiracy theories about this started circulating in general
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: back in January when journalist Jordan Sather tweeted about how
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: a UK government related company called Purbright Institute in Surrey, England,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: filed a patent for coronavirus in twenty fifteen and that
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: it was granted in twenty eighteen.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: And that's true, But that tweet.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Was from January, which is when this started really becoming
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: news in other parts of the world. And a common
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: thing that was happening at that time was people would
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: see the word coronavirus and go, oh, well, this is
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: We've been dealing with this thing forever. And it's not
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: that it's that coronavirus is a family of diseases. The
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: common cold is coronavirus or MERZ, which is Middle East
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: respiratory syndrome. Fucking racist muchdest really was it was broken
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: down regionally like that Middle Eastern respiratory syndrome. Yeah, I
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: think because it only spread maybe it's either started in
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: the Middle East or didn't spread too far outside the
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Middle East. I'm surprised any virus could start in the
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Middle East, Like those don't seem like good virus breeding conditions.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: No, it's not very wet. There's not like a bunch
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: of goopy is. Everything's very dry, right, you know.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good for that virus overcoming the eyes.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: That is impressive. You know, you don't hear a lot
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: of viruses breaking. It's like, oh, wow, he's from Nashville
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: and he just made it work the old fashioned way.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, it's impressive.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: But yeah that you saw these kind of mix ups
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: a whole lot back in January when this was starting.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: There was another one where Canada was blamed for starting
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: it because they had There was an article about a
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: lab in Canada working on coronavirus, but they were working
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: on mers. There was a headline that people were tweeting
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: that said, uh, scientists predict coronavirus will not spread, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: people were like, oh, fucking stupid scientists, you mess this
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: one up. But again they were talking about mers and
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: it did not spread, So the scientists were right. If
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: you can believe that Twitter got it wrong.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's just like people being unable to
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: hold like the concept like, well, I've already used to
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: calling it this, so I'm pretty much done. The neural
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: pathways are hardened and impermeable, and I cannot hold the
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: idea that it is a family of it is we
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: are talking about the Kobe of the coronavirus, that is,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: the lakers of viruses, you know, like.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a completely different thing. And that's where these
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: conspiracy theories started, because a lot of them, Like there's
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: one that suggests that Bill Gates is trying to depopulate
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: the earth, and the backup for that is this patent
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: that was filed by a group that they claim is
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: funded by the Gates Foundation, and one they're not funded
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: by the Gates Foundation. And two the patent they filed
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: was for a form of coronavirus that only affects birds.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: And here's the thing, fuck birds, I don't care.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so imagine if that well, you're just you work
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: in that lab and you're like, man, I can't believe
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: we were chasing the veterinary angle this entire time. We
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: fucked up. We could have been light years ahead of
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: the research, but we were trying to come up with
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: like a very obscure rural farm vaccine.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: That My favorite version of this conspiracy theory though, is that,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, all of the QAnon stuff is fascinating because
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: like when Tom Hanks got it first.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, here we go.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: These motherfuckers are gonna this is gonna turn into some
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Pizzagate shit.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And it did.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: And then Tom Hanks wasn't arrested and he's just like
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: back home making Jamaican rap songs with Jen.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Hayes or whatever.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Ye finding Yeah, And the theory there was that celebrities
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: favorite drug is this thing called a drenochrome.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Well, you see, Adam, it's made from the adrenal glands
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: of abused and abducted children, and it enables you to
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: be super smart and live forever.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: They're all doing this stuff to keep a competitive edge.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: And a team of white hat hackers tainted the elite's
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: supply of adrenochrome with COVID nineteen and that's how this spread.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: It's nice when you can hack a virus into a
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: drug made out of the minds of murdered and abused children.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: That's always that's a really impressive fee to digitally implant
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: a three dimensional virus in. I guess what do you
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: keep a drenochron in like a vial? I mean, I
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: feel like maybe they have these people live on big
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: country estates. Maybe a mason jar you know.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: See, I like to imagine there's just like an actual
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: bottling plant somewhere that spits out a really glitzy looking product,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: and only the elites have access to it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they just they murder the staff of
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: the factory every six months and just replace them.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because what happens if you get pulled over and
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: you just have a vial of liquid, like, that's gonna
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: be questions. So if it can just look like an
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: energy drink, no one's gonna give a shit.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: That would be cool. A cop who only he works
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: in a really nice neighborhood and from all the drug
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: bus he gets addicted to adrenochrome, ends up trying to
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: find his way to the time. Let's write it, man,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: this could be good. This could be Eyes Wide Shut
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: meets Minority Report. Yeah, a little bit of limitless in there.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: We should try adrenochrome too, I mean obviously, I mean,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: if it was in front of me, I'd be like, well,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: it's already been made.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, and if I don't want to be I.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Don't do it, then one of these people's going look
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not them, So I mean I'm not gonna be
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: going on a bend or trying to get more. I'm
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: just trying to get rid of this stuff, get out
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: of the shamed, wasted. I mean, you know, I could
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: do a trip. I could do I could do an
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: adrenochrome trip report on erowid. I could be the first guy.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: So around the same time all of this was happening,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: an article went up on a French conspiracy website called
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Le moutal erse, which means the rabbid sheep loosely. It
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: apparently loosely translates to the rabbit sheep.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: They posted an article suggesting that five G technology in
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: COVID nineteen could be related because five G went like
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: and wuhan around the same time the virus reportedly started there.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Two days later, a Belgian newspaper reported the same thing.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I remember similar claims in the Zoolander caused nine to
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: eleven theory.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: That's a real theory, isn't it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's probably I don't know, I guess it might be.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I guess you gotta be careful. Just about everything's been
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: gotten to you at this point.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: But this again, like the point in history they're referring
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: to is the commercial launch of five G, which is
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: absolutely not gonna happen without massive testing of five G
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: in those areas first, so unless it's even like drilled
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: down a little further where well, they tested it and
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: then in November they flipped the five G coronavirus switch.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: And it's like, okay that I don't know.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I can't explain how if this virus was caused by
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: five G, how it wouldn't have spread when it was
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: being tested.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know why no one asked these people that question.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean outside, I mean, what's your theory they're
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: just killing everybody that hasn't in the town or keeping
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: it quiet, or shooting him with the heart attack gun
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: or what do you think they're doing? You know, like,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: how did they how did all of that shake out? Fine?
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Is it the strong immune system of the Australian man?
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: It fought it off. I mean, it's it's all so
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: very interestingly very They're just stuck on this idea. They
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: keep like, they just keep kind of throwing concepts at
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: this connection, hoping that the will permeate. The kind of
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: group media mind and stirred dis array.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: And in all fairness, one of the arguments people used
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: to debunk this, I don't think actually holds up that well,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: which is that well a place like Iran, they have
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: no five G they're just now starting to talk about it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: How would it spread there? And I think that's kind
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: of a weak argument because it doesn't speak to the
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: origin of the disease, Like it could have started in
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Wuhan because of five G and just spread to Iran.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: But even then, the way it spread in Iran was
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: one merchant who traveled from China back to Iran and
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: it spread like it's one of the biggest outbreaks in
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: the Middle East. If it's that contagious and spreads that quickly,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: you don't need five G towers to spread this thing, clearly.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got a grassroots marketing campaign with cigarettes sell themselves,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: you know. I don't know if you need the backup
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: from the Wi FI brigade. If it's just if yeah,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: like literally just they've they found the patient's erow and
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: it's just one merchant that brought it in. Yeah that's crazy. Yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: just one guy. Now it's completely out of control.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: And so how without five G technology did it spread
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: so fast there? Like, that's that's the question to ask
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: about Iran, not oh, why did they have it? If
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: it was started by five G, why would you need
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: five G to spread it if it can spread that
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: fast somewhere that doesn't have it, Like building these towers
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: would just be really unnecessary overkill.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when you could.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Just fucking send a dude with the coughs on a
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: bus in the country of your choice and there you go.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, load up some bootlet Pikachu's and the get
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: to work Johnny Appleseed.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: And it would also like, if this is how five
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: G spreads, the people behind this conspiracy would be putting
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: themselves right in harm's way because five G is gonna
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: be everywhere like within a year. Yeah, then what does
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: adrenochrome keep you safe?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, and it turns into you know, a zombie
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: game where you got to get the shot every twenty
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: four hours or you're gonna turn you know who fucking enough.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it'll just they'll they'll, they'll, it'll
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: come out. Nothing will happen, really, but then more weird
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: things will happen in general, and they'll start linking it
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: all together and it'll just grow off to be one
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: one new branch of these sort of conspiracy theory tree uh,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: you know, there's there's kind of a few central trunks
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: of things that are like, you know, all agreed upon
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: to be fucked up about the government and corrupt. And
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: then you know, so we're like, well, that's because of
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: the wealth and equality, and that's that whole branch over here,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: and it's all that shit and ness to and then
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: there'll there will just be a new five G branch
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: of people that think that you know, yeah, and however
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: big it is and whoever long it lasts, and however
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: however much comes of it, I mean, all remains to
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: be seen. But it's definitely not slowing down. These people
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: are already really emotionally committed to being correct about this.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Uh you know, like once you see people really making
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: it like a part of their identity and just like no,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: fuck you, Like it's really people are committed now. So
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: it's just gonna it's gonna be around for however long
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: it uh you know, you can keep it up. I'm
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: sure someone will be throwing stuff at him.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: The easiest to refute conspiracies are always the ones that
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: attract the most fervent supporters, like Sandy Hook and like QAnon.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Like QAnon is a fucking doomsday cult at this point. Yeah,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: like every six to eight months they're like, it's happening
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: November seventeenth, baby, mark your calendars, ten days of Darkness,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: and then that passes and they're like, all right, But.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: So this is a Sunday Sunday Sunday.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Sunday Sunday Sunday pedophiles arrested in mass globally.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: JFK. Junior is hopping off the jet and into the
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: ring and he's unmasking every Hollywood elitist involved in the
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: global pedophile network network.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: And here's the thing. If that happened, this would be
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: a whole new podcast come next week.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, nobody would be more excited than me if it was,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: like did you hear they're doing another ten Days of
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Darkness in March? But Shocker and Gravedigger are gonna go
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: at it like I'd be completely all in for it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it was kind of inchesod. I'm not followed.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I've tried to keep my brain pure as I can
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: with QAnon stuff, but basically everyone I unders said it
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: was a trip code on fourtune that was was kind
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: of leaking details that team somewhat correct, and then nobody
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: really knows who the person is anymore. It's all very anonymous,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: and it's uh, everyone has all these crazy theories and
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: it's just now it's like people with bigfoot was going
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: around making footprints to fuck with the guys trying to
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: find Bigfoot.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: It feels like a government operation of some sort. Yeah,
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: not necessarily ours, but someone is behind that, and they're
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: very interested in seeing what they can get those people
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: to do and believe.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so far they're fucking great at it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I mean seems to like it seems like there's been
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: some sort of things that have lined up or been
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: proven somewhat true or like, you know, like they like
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: it did like this was a person that had insider
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: infos what I'm saying at one point, and there seems
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to be some level of that or whatever that I
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: would hope at least has given people faith in this
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: whole kind of idea. Uh So, Yeah, I mean, it's
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: it's exactly the kind of thing that you would probably
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: do to you know, sort of seed a disenchantisement with
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: the government and you know, sort of make people skeptical
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: of thinking. Yeah, you know, just could create general chaos
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: and propaganda. I mean it absolutely lines up with something
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: that our government or some other government, or I don't know,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: some rogue faction within our own government, or maybe with everything.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I always like to assume itch just a bunch of
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: twenty four year olds and shit got way out of hand,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, I think that's also always a thing
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: to think about, is it's like twelve dudes that all
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: have just sleep with a gun into their pillow.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: You know, that would actually be the most comforting explanation.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah for me as well. I think just kids fucking around.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: But yeah, this five G and coronavirus thing is kind
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: of shaping up to be that same thing, because in
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: what's happening in England right now is people are going
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: out and literally burning five G towers down or whatever
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: they look at and perceive to be a five G tower.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they just a regular cell phone tower.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I think they've got a tower records.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Actually, seventy seven of these things have been burned down
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: so far.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: In shit, that is a lot. I mean, that is
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: like a pretty big That is a pretty big wave
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: of domestic terrorism when you think about it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: It really is, and it's I think the reason it's
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: taken off this theory has taken off so much there
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: is because of David Ike. Like, yeah, he's still a
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: pretty prominent figure in England, and he's very adamant that
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: COVID nineteen is not real. It's it's there never was
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: a virus, and that this is all being spread with
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: five G technology and it's a means of basically ushering
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: in an authoritarian state all around the world. Yeah, and
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: I do share his concerns about how governments are reacting
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: to this absolutely.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, it does feel like we are getting closer
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: to a place where, I mean, there's all been all
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: these tensions for so long between the US and all
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: these different countries, but it does feel like at this
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: point we're getting a place where it's like, well, dominoes
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: are going to have to start falling soon, cause it's
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: like we're coming up upon some like absolutes and like
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: these long standing tentative like you know, trade with China's
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: gotten fucking crazy. It's already like a low scale trade war,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: and it seems like something's going to happen there. I mean,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: there's who got damn knows what Rush is doing with
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: all these you know, crazy Rush of Gate theories and
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: all this shit that the Democrats have been pushing it.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Looking into how much verass either is there. It does
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: feel like it's about to start going like someone's taken
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: a tough dayton Land here of some kind pretty soon,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe a digital one, and maybe it's you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: a financial one, but it seems like it's coming.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: There's a document I bring up all the time on
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: this show called uh I think it was called the
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: New American Century?
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Was this the one I was thinking about? A document
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: we bring up a lot about that guy who said
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: that first we'll use the threat of communist terror, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: then it'll be just like regular terrorism, and then it'll
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: be aliens, like in terms of like these weird like
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: scapegoats for the American public to continue endless war. And
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I remember it's really interesting because it was just like
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: CIA guy in his deathbed and it was like first
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: two things all kind of panned out, and then it
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: would be like, you know, Islamic radical terrorism, and then
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: the last one was aliens and then you see all
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: this UFO stuff and you're like, that is that how
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: they're gonna play this? Or then convinces that there's they're
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: gonna fly a couple experimental sauce over la and then
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: get us all to be completely subservient like it would work.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: I don't, I mean, I'm not risking it. I don't
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: want to get blown up by fucking alien.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: That is one of the key moments in the New
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: World Order. Conspiracy involves the people behind that at some
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: point projecting an image in the sky that can be
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: seen everywhere, like all around the world at the same time,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: and it's going to be like the voice of God
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: explaining why all religions are wrong and what like, He's
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: here to tell us the truth. I think it's called
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Project Bluebeam or something like that. But that is part
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: that is kind of how the New World Order is
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: to be ushered in, is by this presence in the sky.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Feels like the start of like a really over the top,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: like Puffy video from nineteen ninety eight.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Hype Williams is going to direct the New
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: World Order.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Anyway, what were you saying?
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: The Project for the New American Century though, was this
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: document that was written in nineteen ninety seven by, among
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: other people, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. Okay,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: and what they said in that document, and this came
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: out I think in ninety nine.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: They wrote it in ninety seven.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: They listed all of these countries that the United States
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: over the next twenty years or so is going to
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: have to engage in conflict with in order to keep
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: our position as the most powerful country in the world.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: And for one, they said, this would all be a
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: lot easier if we had another pearl Harbor. And then
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: nine to eleven happens, so they basically got their pearl harbor,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: and that when nine to eleven happened, they started kind
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: of systematically. We as a government, no matter who's been
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: in office, have been kind of systematically taking down each
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: of these countries.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: And the last one left is China.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: So it's very possible that, like it doesn't I don't
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: think it's crazy to suggest this is building up to
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: some kind of conflict with China.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's crazy at all. I mean,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I guess you just wonder what in this day and
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: age that looks like, with the advent of nuclear weapons
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: and all of this crazy drone technology we have, like
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: what we really do if it's more of like a
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: financial kind of a trade war, if it becomes the
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: thing where we were trying to emp each other or
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: shut down each other's electrical grids, or it's stayed some
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: kind of like coup or or global market walkout and
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: support or the other. I mean, it's all really fucking strange.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: And there's so many aspects of our commerce and our
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: culture and our fucking you know, just the way the
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: world is set up is inextrably linked together, and all
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: these all these teams are rattling, you know, every aspect
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: of the really is fucking on the fritz right now.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: And you go like, well, somebody's about to just go
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: fucking and flipped, flip the table over and do something,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: you know, and it's really Espusually with Trumpet office, you've
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: never been able to socid what the fuck he's gonna do.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: It's just it's, yeah, you do you do really feel
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: like you're kind of living like five six minutes to
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: midnight here?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, like even Mike Pompeo, who just came out
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: recently and was like, I don't know, China might have
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: done this intentionally, we'll see.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: And what's interesting about that debate about whether this came
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: from a lab in China is I think people get
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: the terms created in and released from confused sometimes because
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: it's very possible that this could have escaped from a
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: lab accidentally without it being a thing that was handmade
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: by the Chinese government.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this could have been a natural, just lab accident,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: kind of a yeah, you know, mishap.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: And if we find out it's just that, Like, what's
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: our response gonna be. Is that gonna, like you said,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: turn in to a heightening of the trade war, and
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: then is that gonna just turn into.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: A real war?
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, it feels like we're headed for some sort
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: of conflict with China over this, And like, I honestly
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I understand why people would be like, did the US
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: government just do this so we could go to war
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: with China? Like are we losing patients? But it feels
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: more to me like we're just seizing an opportunity to
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: become the authoritarians we've always wanted to be.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean we've we've spent so much time
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: kind of consolidating the brute strength and the and the
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: influence of the you know, big American machine. It does
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: feel like it's like, all right, well, when are we
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: gonna stop kind of fucking around and pretending and when
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: are we just gonna make it like here's what everybody's doing,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: you know, and like as like, well, yeah, just the
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: theater of politics has become so crazy and exaggerated and
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: over there, and it's just completely more blatantly than ever
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: just you know, like that one of my favorite Look,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: what's is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Like it really is just so transparently. Uh, it's just
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: you know, people not doing anything and making a big
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: show of it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: And one of the I guess the fallout from this
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: particular conspiracy theory is David Ike got his entire YouTube
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: channel deleted over this.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean that's that's a that's a big deplatforming.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: It's not quite like Alex Jones level, but I mean
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: it's it's definitely He's got a huge tree of influence
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: back in England and the world over to some degree.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a pretty big guy to shut down.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of surprised he was still active.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I I don't necessarily agree with his entire
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: page being shut down. Yeah, I'm fine with videos that
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: lead to you know, people being harmed being taken down
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: and I feel like a video suggesting coronavirus isn't real
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: could potentially harm people, And you know, I'm with that
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: being censored on what is essentially a private like YouTube's
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: a private company.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: They can do whatever the fuck they want.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're playing in there sandbox for sure.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: It just it feels like one of those things where
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: we just keep setting these precedents where someone says something
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: we don't agree with, and we're like, can we just
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: silence them? Can we just make it so no one
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: ever hears that opinion ever again. And in some cases
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: it's warranted, but like in other cases not so much.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's kind of like once you're out
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: of polite society, once you're not on Twitter, you're not
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: on YouTube or Instagram, and they've taken all your accounts
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: down and you've got to gab, You've got to gab
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: account and you know, a gum Road and all this shit.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: It's like it sort of it forces you into the
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: company of people that are just kind of like reinforce
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: that same kind of thinking or belief and like, whatever
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: however valid it may be or however fucked up your
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: deep platform may have been hat but it definitely kind
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: of like concentrates and metastasizes and accelerates this like whatever
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: ideology you kind of send out there, could they get
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: the sort of are forced underground, and they get even
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: more pissed off about how everything's got to get I mean, honestly,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: at this point, they've got a little bit of a point,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: you know, with the way that they've been shut down.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: So it's a really it's a really tough line to walk,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean a thing just from this well
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: known guy saying the virus isn't really real. It's like,
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I do see how as a company you just go like,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: we can't fucking be just letting this stack of views.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Well, there was also like we passed Sesta Fausta in
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: this country in twenty eighteen, and I feel like that
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: kind of reaches further into the Internet than people realize
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: because it there was for a long time this law
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: that was written as part of the Communications and Decency
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Act or whatever Janet Reno passed, and it was I
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: think it's called Section two thirty, and it basically exempts
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: people who run websites from being prosecuted for the acts
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: of people who use those websites. Oh interesting, And that
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: was the thing that protected people who ran websites forever
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: on the Internet. Like that was written I think in
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: ninety six or something. And what happened when we passed
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: SESTA Fasta is any sites like Backpage or Craigslist where
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: there were sex workers advertising their wares, any of those
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: sites had to shut down because what SESTA Fasta did
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: was it said, you know, if you're not doing enough
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: to fight sex trafficking on your website, and if sex
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: trafficking happens on your website, then you're going to be
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: prosecuted along with those sex traffickers. Like that's direct government
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: pressure on that particular group of Internet operators.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: But it also.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Attacks that Section two thirty protection where like, if you're
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: at YouTube, you could be thinking, all right, well if
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: I leave that up, then I'm gonna end up being
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: prosecuted for spreading misinformation about the coronavirus and those Along
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: with all of this like censorship stuff that people are
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: worried about, we've also been quietly passing laws that would
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: like really harshly criminalize spreading misinformation about coronavirus or just
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: spreading coronavirus. Like so it like you almost have to
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: kind of see YouTube's point.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah, I mean just from coming to the
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: obstructive as a private company and now just going seems
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: to be a little bit wild westified with this new bill,
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: you'd want to keep it, keep it safe, and play
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: it safe. And I mean they they've got a really
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: interesting sort of checkered background with pulling people down and
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: what they pull them down for and how they go
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: about it, and how hard it is to appeal the process,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: and they've got their own interests, and you know, I'm
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: sure that there's certain the people that as certain to
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: and it's counter to theirs that they don't necessarily want
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: to promote, and people with aligned ideas that they try
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: to kind of push a little more. Give him a
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: couple more front page spots when you just pop the
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: side open and it's yeah, it's all it's always kind
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: of tough to see where they're coming from. But I mean,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: with this it feels like pretty pretty clean cut. And
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: with David Ike being such kind of just just a
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: long time kook, you know's he usually operates in that
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: just like Coast to Coast am so kooky. It's like, well,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: this is just a good good time. This is just
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: fun to hear this guy, you know, go off of
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: oh yeah lozards, Okay, yeah, sure that would be kind
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: of kind of metal, you know, but uh yeah, now
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: he's fucking with a real crisis and that's what happens.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: The most interesting thing I came across looking into specifically
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: the David Ike situation is this YouTube channel or just
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: this media presence called London Reel, and they did an
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: interview with David Ike, and by they I mean Brian Rose.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: He's the guy behind this London real company, and what
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: he's basically doing is taking this free speech argument and
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: just kind of it seems like he's kind of just
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: using it to elicit money from his followers.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's talking about raising money for a digital rally,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: which is like, well, how much that didn't cost a
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: million dollars? You know, like how much show does it
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: do it cost to have a digital Unpops live stream? You know,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: it's free, it's pretty affordable. Yeah yeah.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: And there's a really interesting video I came across while
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I was looking into that, which is on another YouTube
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: channel called Rebel Wisdom, and this guy kind of looked
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: into what happened with London Reel and Brian Rose and
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: David Ike, and it's kind of fascinating. It plays out
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: sort of like an episode of a true crime show,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: except instead of a guy murdering his wife for insurance money,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: it's a conspiracy theorist basically scamming his users on the
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: premise that he's fighting for free speech.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which I mean that's like not the worst kind
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: of one man, like a gospel you know, fundraising preacher
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: move and its Dan and Age is like, oh yeah,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: go find a hot new conspiracy theory, stir the pot
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: about it, make a big show about you know, solidarity
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: and what you want to do, what you're all about,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: with no real details, and you know, get a bunch
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: of angry people to hit the PayPal.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I can't decide if what this guy is doing is
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: what I should be doing.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Like it does feel like a bit of an overseting.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Someone who runs a conspiracy podcast, Like should I be
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: in the park without my shirt on? Like yelling about
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: the deep state and how people should donate on Twitch?
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just they're the people should be zooming in on
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: things and circling guys that look like you in the background.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Of protests and events going like is this was dam
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Todd Brown? You know, yeah, you should have a little
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: army and all that. I think it would be fun.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think he'd be good at it.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Is this fucking guy.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: I had to give my email address to watch this
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: interview with David Ike on his website because YouTube has
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: since taken it down.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: So you got to make an account and all that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: And that was two days ago. I have gotten eight
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: emails from this motherfucker in two days.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Wow. Well, there's a lot of news coming out, Adam
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: about the Reptilians and their use of five G.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: You know what, I would welcome news.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: What most of them are are emails telling me about
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: how Brian Rose can help make all my dreams come
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: true by mentoring me in starting my own business.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Oh and he has I like when they also get
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: into that, you know, and it's like like it's a
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: gas station with the taco just like, well, look we
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: were into throwing down the man, but we got great
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: house tipping formula that has never failed.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And like I've thought about like putting together like
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: quick how to start a podcast thing and like selling
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: it for like I don't know, reasonable money. Yeah, one
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: hundred bucks. Let's say that's even pushing it. Sure he
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: has a course about how to start a podcast. The
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: cheapest one is two thousand, nine hundred and ninety seven dollars. Wow,
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: And there are two more too larger packages. You have
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: to get on the phone with someone at the company
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: for them to tell you how much it costs.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, And like, I can't think of what
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: information three thousand dollars I could unlock for you about it,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Like what I bet you've not heard of one of
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: these podcasts that's taken. That course tells you all the
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: same shit you could easily read four and a half
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: wired listicles and figure out yourself. And then it's probably
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: just a bunch of puffy kind of self help directional
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: kind of feel good shit that you then internalize and
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: you know, think that you did or you know, just
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: and then you probably just don't even start a podcast,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: is probably what happens with other of these people.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there are a bunch of scam complaints about these
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: courses out there on the internet, if you can believe that.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: So that, like just that alone feels exploitative to me, Like, oh,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: free speech is under attack. Give me three grands so
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: I can tell you how to start a podcast and
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: take eight weeks doing it. Like, it doesn't take eight
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: weeks start a fucking podcast, pal, No, it takes eight
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: eight days, Max.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: I did, alright, the podcasting game, and it took us
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: about Yeah, it took us about a week.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that complicated.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: No.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: And this video that looked into all of this, like
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: I said, it's on a YouTube channel called Rebel Wisdom.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: The video is called David Ike in London, Reel and Investigation,
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: and it's a really interesting video. This guy did a
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: lot of fucking research into how this YouTube channel responded
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: to David Ike being banned from YouTube, and the way
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: they responded was to basically use it as a means
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: of raising money from their followers. And the guy in
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: the video is David Fuller. He's the founder of Rebel Wisdom.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: And basically, after this first interview with David Ike was
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: taken down, Brian Rose announced that he was going to
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: interview Ike again and that he was launching something called
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: the Digital Freedom Platform as part of a crowdfunding effort
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: to pay for the live stream, which live streams are
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: not that expensive.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: I mean I was trying to think, like even if
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: you were like somehow like using your own bandwidth and
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: hosting it yourself and trying to support that, It's like
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: it just wouldn't get that. It just wouldn't be that
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: much money.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: No, And they were asking initially for one hundred thousand
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: dollars and they got that in a day.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: By the time this video went up, they were closing
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: in on a million dollars.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Man, he's putting up like Bernie Sanders crowdfunding numbers, you know.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: It's like that kind of enthusiasm.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: And meanwhile, I did a Kickstarter in twenty sixteen, and
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: I would still feel too guilty to ask people for
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: money again in that way.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like starting a kickstarter it's a real greyhound
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: bus ticket for one. So it's come to this kind
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: of moment. I mean, it's not something you want to
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: be doing all the time, like, oh I can't when
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: we get the next kickstart, it's like, okay, let's space
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: them out.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: That's what some people do, though, like this case in point,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: I went and checked to see the progress on this
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: crowdfunding campaign. There is now a new crowdfunding campaign for
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: the Phase six May twenty twenty portion of developing this platform,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: and that one so far has raised one hundred and
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: thirty three thousand dollars of its two hundred and fifty
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: thousand dollars goal.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: So what is the idea behind this platform? Is it
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: like a set of you know, hosting services that are uncensored.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Is it a YouTube like site that doesn't take things down?
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Is it just Patreon?
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: No Hatreon? Oh one that gotcha?
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Ye? Yeah, like the Patreon clone that was set up
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: for people who'd been de platformed by Patreon.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: No. I remember Richard Spencer's Hatreon for the longest time,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: have like twenty two people on it, and it was
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: in his Twitter bio and just nobody ever signed up.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: But yeah, okay, so it's yeah, it's like a YouTube
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: where you can upload whatever you want and no one
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: will say anything.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: But he made a bunch of different claims.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: First he said that this is a completely separate entity
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: from London Reel, and then this guy in this Rebel
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Wisdom video looks into it and it turns out the
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: company the digital platform is owned by a company called
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: long Stem Limited. That company owns London Reel. Long Stem
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: Limited has one shareholder Brian Rose. So he's just blatantly
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: lying to people about the origins of this and basically
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: saying the money's not going to me. Just invest if
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: you want and it'll be a cool thing. Fucking iced
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Tea's on board. I'll play that quick.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: Freedom of speech, just watch what you said. Whenever you
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: use somebody else's platform to get your message out, you
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: can be censored by them.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: If I write in.
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: A magazine and I turn it in, and that magazine
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: has a guy called an editor, he's gonna determine what
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: that magazine's positions are and if they want to let
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: it fly, if they think it's gonna mess with some
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: of their ads or some of the people that pay
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: to be on that site. So what you did was
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: you made some people uncomfortable. And it's their platform. We
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: don't own the Internet like people don't know. Like you're
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: on Instagram, you don't own Instagram. It's theirs, Facebook, it's
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: their Twitter, it's their so they can just shut you down.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: So you got you.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Still kind of playing in a censored world. You know,
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: you got to know that they still control it. Now,
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: Like what you said is if you create your own platform,
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: then you can get it out. But you still don't
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: own the internet, you see what I'm saying, So there
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: still could be somebody that can still come over the
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: top and somehow shuts you down. The only time you
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: actually have free speech is when you and I are
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: sitting in front of each other, talking directly to each
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: other and we're back.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm very excited about that.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Ic Ta is an adamant supporter of this, probably after
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: years of not being able to curse on Law and
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Order SVU.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: That's his digital freedom platform. Pages just he's gotten the
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: rights to all these old cuts of him improvising, cursing dialogue,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: and he recuts the whole show. But it's just the dirty,
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: the dirty version. You know.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I would watch the shit out of that.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: That would make so much money, that would that would
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: do crazy numbers.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: There was also another YouTube channel that noted that this
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: live stream he had scheduled, which she said was completely
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: independent of all the big tech companies. This is a
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: pure platform where you can do whatever you want. He
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: was actually just streaming it on daily Motion, which is
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: just like a YouTube clone using a free account.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Oh man, that's too good.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: So he raised.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: Nearly a million dollars to fund a live stream that
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: was being run from a free account on daily Motion.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: To click three buttons to connect his Facebook accounts.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, basically, and like he's doing all of this under
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: the guise of, Oh, I'm protecting freedom of speech. I'm
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: out here fighting the good fight London Real Army or whatever.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: He fucking calls his followers and according to public records,
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Long Stem Limited is deeply in debt.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Also, oh, okay, so this might be his kind of
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: like Hail Mary move to become liquid again.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: It kind of seems like it.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: And like he's issued a bunch of follow up videos
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: and was like, oh, that was a head fake. I
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: can't let people know what I'm up to. And it's like,
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: shut up, you got caught lying, dude.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: No, it's a head figures, all part of the plan.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: He totally trolled the libs. Dude.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: In one of the videos, he said he was gonna
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: conduct his interview with David Ike from a secret bunker
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: and that he was in that bunker and then people
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: noticed it was just his the headquarters of his company.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: You can't fucking promise bunkers and not deliver on it, man,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: I mean everybody love, you know, it'd be a worthwhile investment,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: you know, much more money you'd raise it to'd be like, well,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: this guy's already get a bunker. I mean he's figured
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: it if he clearly is fighting a good fight. He
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: lives underground in some sort of like desert styrofoam Saddam
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Hussein container and uh yeah, it's that's such a bummer man.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you even get a bunker?
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Like it's like, like, what's the point of like crowdfunding a
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: huge amount of money from a bunch of like stupid
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: people and then not enacting a big genius level skin
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Who does that to square up their credit card debt? Like, no,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: try to build like a jet helicopter? What the fuck
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: are you doing with your life?
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a really weird.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: I'll link to all of the videos so people can
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: watch it and decide for yourself. But I feel like
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: this dude just took what happened to David Ike and
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: was like I can get money out of these idiots
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: over this. Yeah, And I feel like you see that
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: a lot with conspiracy theory stuff, Like we did a
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: bonus episode a while back about Illuminati symbols in Kubrick movies,
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: which is a dumb fucking conspiracy too. And there was
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: this guy who had written four different books on it.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: He had YouTube videos you could buy about it, and
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: it's just all the same information.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Just repackage.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Just yeah that you know, he's just like milking a
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: small core of supporters for money every fucking month.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: There is that thing when you find that one weird
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: you corner, that one weird market and that one weird
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: group of people that just comes reliant on having a
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: relationship with you, you can really just churn out shit.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: You know. It's like you've seen it with any podcasts
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: you've been a fan of hers. I think for a
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: long time that's gone off the rails, Like, you know,
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: look at what the Adam Krola Show has turned into
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: from it's a remember when that was like the only
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: podcast and I was like to be like, oh, hey,
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: everyone's got to figure out what he's doing. And now
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: it's just an absolute graveyard of you know, ridiculous product
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: reads and promotional tie ins. I'm sure. So, you know,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: it's like anything else, it just happens on a smaller
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: model train world kind of scale.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get there someday.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's coming. I'm going to be down to
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: like two hundred mean boys fans when I'm fifty, and
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: I'll just be sending them feet pictures and weird you know. Yeah,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: but erotic sexual memories of uh Keith when he was
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: alive and shit like that. It's coming for all of us.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but by then you can charge like one hundred
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: and fifty a month or something.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, everybody's the inflation, the hyperinflation that's coming
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: from the economic war with China.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: So I think that's our episode. I don't think coronavirus
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: is caused by five G. I do think there are
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: people out there making money off the idea that con
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: the virus causes five G.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: And if you're gonna do that, build a bunker, all right.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Build the fucking followed through.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: What is the point of a secure location that's disclosed? Really?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: I still can't decide if I like, is this like,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: is this the route I need to take as a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: conspiracy theory podcast? Is that really how you monetize these things?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: You just plead your listeners dry?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean I think that's one way to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: play it. I like to think that the pitch here
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: has always been that we have a little bit more
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: respect for you in the audience than other places.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: But that can change if that's what people want.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: I'm more than happy to be a dom you know.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we will financially dominate. You can spare well that
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: bring our reviews up on iTunes.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I mean, look, I appreciate every fan that
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: I have, but it's like that relationship can evolve, and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: it's not like I can't find things to resent about you.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: People do not think that for a moment. There's plenty
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: in the chamber. I just have to start uncorking the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: valve on you.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: We're here.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: We're here for you, listeners, whatever you need us to do.
• 1:01:03
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• 1:01:08
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