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#248: Secret Santa aka Christmassacre (2015) - Tubi or Not to Be · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  It's cumulative. Welcome to What's Your Least
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  Favorite Scary Movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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  favorite. And least favorite scary movies
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  because we believe every horror movie rightfully has its fan
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  base even. If we don't always get it.
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  My name is Travis. My name is Jesse and welcome
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  back to our monthly bonus series where we are live uncut and
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  mostly undrawn. That's right, we are back to To
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  be or not to be where we troll the free streaming services and
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  find some horror movies that maybe don't get as much love as
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  some of the big box office releases.
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  Yeah, for sure. And it's my month to pick, so I
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  went Christmas themed yet again. I feel like that's the
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  appropriate way to do it in December.
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  Yeah, it'd be silly not to. And I chose us, a little movie
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  with two names. So the name on the title screen
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  is Chris Massacre, Christmasacre, Chris Massacre,
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  Chris Massacre, and it's also known as Secret Santa, which I
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  feel is a more fitting name for this.
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  It's a more fitting name, and that's also the one you're going
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  to want to use if you try and look this up on IMDb.
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  On IMDb, but if you try and look it up on Tubi, look up Chris
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  Massacre because there is another Secret Santa movie out
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  there that is not this one. Because like I, I looked it up
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  before and I was like, this is not the same movie.
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  Like, I was like, I was really, really confused.
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  So yeah, we're going to be talking about that.
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  But before we do, do you have anything you need to announce?
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  But no Cool. All right, that's easy right
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  there. All right.
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  So I guess that means we're going to get right on into it
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  since we don't do polls for these.
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  So all right, let's begin. Let's do it.
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  All right, so Chris Massacre debuted November 28th, 2015 at
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  the Canada Blood and Snow Film Fest.
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  So you're right, this is a Canadian film.
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  You caught the, you clocked the accents last night.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It had a couple of those
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  sprinkled in. So we watched it on Tubi and
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  that's where I think it's really only available as of right now.
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  I'm sure there's other places. I didn't really look too hard.
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  But it's written by Mike Mcmurin, directed by Mike
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  Mcmurin, music by Andre Becker and special effects by Carlos
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  Henriques and The Butcher Shop. Which is a fantastic name for a
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  special effects company or a band.
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  That's true. You could do both.
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  Oh my. God, what if they do both?
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  I mean, honestly, it'd be like that show that we saw at the
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  Jamboree in Memphis where they had like, dismembered heads
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  shooting blood out of their guitars.
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  Or like a a Gore concert. Yeah, honestly, I mean, that's
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  like a perfect combo right there.
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  You could do that. You should do that, Henrique.
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  Yeah, Enrique. No, Carlos Enriquez.
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  Carlos. Enriquez.
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  Yes, Henriquez. Henriquez OK.
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  Yes, all right. Do it, do it, do it.
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  All right, Cass starring Annette Wozniak as Nicole, Jeff Allman
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  as Dwayne, Keegan Chambers as Carissa, Brett Baird as Brian
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  Alliteration right there. Nikki Caro as Olivia, Tony Nash
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  as Professor Ramsey, Matthew Chisholm as Clay, Estrita, Ooza
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  Hausa as Phyllis and Alex, Alexandra Simpson as May.
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  OK, Who for that does struggle out there at the NFL Apart, but
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  it's OK cuz we're at our favorite part of the show.
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  Well, first of all, I just want to say we do mess up names a
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  lot. But normally when we're editing,
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  we just, we'll take a pause, go for it again, and then we edit
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  out the flubs. Welcome to.
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  The Welcome to the live stream. Y'all getting the raw the raw
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  footage right here. OK, now it's time.
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  Budget or budgeted? Good.
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  I do have a number. Really.
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  I'm impressed. What's the number?
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  What are you going to guess? I feel like you didn't even
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  like. Is it that obvious that you
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  didn't even, like have to answer it?
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  It's bugtad. Yeah, it's bugtad.
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  Very, very bugtad. It's 6000 Canadian dollars.
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  What is the American equivalent of that?
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  I don't know. You usually get mad whenever I
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  do that, so I didn't do it. I don't feel like I usually get
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  mad. OK, you don't get mad, but you
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  say you don't like having the conversion.
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  It it is hard for me. Yeah, it's hard for everybody.
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  It's tough out there, people. So yeah, it was $6000
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  crowdfunded. OK, good for them.
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  Don't have opening. Crowdfund things.
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  It is, yeah. And, you know, especially if you
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  don't really have a name, I don't really know if this dude
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  had himself established yet as a filmmaker in his area.
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  You know, who knows? Either way, box office don't
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  have any numbers for that, but I do have the IMDb.
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  It's 4.8. OK.
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  That's about, that's OK. I mean, I'm not, I'm not
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  thinking that everybody's gonna love this one, but I'd be
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  surprised if everybody hated it. Yes, yeah, that's.
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  Where I'm at, that's. A good way of framing that, OK.
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  All right, so I've got 3 movies I'll end up OK.
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  I almost had a cool theme but I had to swap it out with another
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  theme. But it's OK, I got most of those
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  movies on there for both of the themes here.
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  So the theme I end up going with is movies that wear their
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  inspiration on their sleeves, OK?
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  Very, very upfront about what inspired them.
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  OK, so and the other one was going to be crowdfunded movies
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  also? Oh, that's also a very
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  interesting theme. I've got two out of three
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  crowdfunded movies here, but all of these are very heavily
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  inspired by something, so the first movie is Final Girls.
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  Oh nice, I really like that movie.
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  Yeah, me too. We watched that for the first
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  time this year over October. So if you guys have not watched
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  that movie, it's a lot of fun. It wears it's Friday the 13th
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  inspiration hard. It goes like I mean it basically
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  it references pieces even it just like it references slashers
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  all slashers pretty heavily. Yeah, it's a if you haven't
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  watched that movie, we put it off.
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  Not put it off, but like it had been on our radar and we just
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  hadn't watched it for a while. And I wish we'd watched it
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  sooner because it was so much fun.
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  Yeah, me too. Honestly, I kind of want to
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  watch it again like any time I got past I'm like, oh, I kind of
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  want to watch it. All right, so that released
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  November 5th, 2015. 6.5 million. OK budget.
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  Don't have a gross IMDb 6.5. See, when you said 6.5, at first
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  I thought you were saying the IMDb score, and I was like,
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  that's good. Oh yeah, it's Oh my God, I
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  didn't even like make that connection, but it's the same as
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  yeah. So that was the one that was not
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  crowdfunded. OK, that one, from what I could
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  tell, it seems like it was studio.
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  All right, I have the next one. Do bro Party massacre three.
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  Yeah, that one was crowdfunded, yes, and it is very much
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  inspired by like the slumber party massacre stuff and just in
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  title alone, and then also has all kinds of slasher yeah tropes
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  and movie references all throughout.
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  Garson, Yeah. Turbo OK, so that released July
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  7th, 2015. Four $100,000 budget.
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  Although I think I remember because we talked about this, if
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  anybody wants to listen to that episode, listen to that episode,
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  you should. It was a good time.
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  It was a 200th episode special. Yeah.
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  I think that the budget is different than what is listed
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  because I think I remember going into that in that.
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  Episode. Yeah.
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  Because they had some other stuff like producers doubling
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  down on stuff. I can't remember exactly.
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  There's some really good information in that episode.
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  Definitely go listen to it. Go watch the movie.
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  Yeah, for sure do both. Yeah.
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  So I don't have a gross for it, but the IMDb is 6 out of 10.
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  Rude. Yeah, it should be an 11 out of
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  10. Yeah, it's the perfect movie.
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  It's perfect. But then again, I feel like you
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  have to have a certain type of sense of humor to appreciate it.
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  That's true. We did talk a lot about how it's
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  smart, stupid humor. Yeah, if you don't find it funny
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  at all then it's charm is like. Gone.
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  Yeah, that's. True, you have to find it funny
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  to be effective. All right.
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  And the final movie Harbinger down.
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  I feel like I've heard of that. You have I, I feel like I've
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  brought it up to you a couple of times.
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  So this movie was also crowdfunded.
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  From what I saw, it is OK. It's the team that did the
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  effects for The Thing remake. OK, so you remember, yes, you've
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  definitely mentioned this to me before then.
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  The Thing remake or prequel, I guess whatever you want to call
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  it, that came out in 2015. It had practical effects ready
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  to go for the movie, just like the original, and then the
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  studio decided to do CGI effects out of the blue, which cut all
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  the hard work that this team did.
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  And then they wanted to still display those effects.
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  So they got this movie down, Harbinger down, and that's where
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  they put it to work. And if you look at the poster, I
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  mean, it's like super heavily inspired by The Thing.
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  So that's where that inspiration comes from.
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  The Thing. Oh, OK, OK.
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  So that released August 7th 2015.
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  I don't have the budget for what it crowdfunded but the gross of
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  61,000 OK IMDb 4.6. Oh no.
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  Yeah, maybe they just were all effects and no story.
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  I don't know. We'll see.
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  It's. Hard to say, yeah.
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  All right, on to tag lines. I've only got 10.
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  No. It's OK, it's not bad.
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  These presents are gonna be killer.
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  Would. You kind of like that.
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  It's kind of fitting for the Secret Santa tag on or the
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  title. I feel.
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  Chris Massacre, It kind of works.
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  Yeah, Yeah. OK.
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  All right. Actually, do you think it kind
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  of works for Chris Massacre too? I mean, it works for anything
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  Christmas related, but yeah, you know better for Secret Santa I
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  feel. OK, that's it for the stuff we
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  don't do Fun facts since it's to be episodes.
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  So I guess we're going to go on into good, bad, ugly and absurd.
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  Oh, and also why I chose this. One yes.
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  Why did you choose this? One so I, I wanted to get a
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  Christmas horror movie because it's December and there's a lot
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  of low budget stuff out there. I feel like this is like an
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  appropriate one that a lot of people go for, people go for
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  holiday movies, especially when you're trying to like get
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  yourself out there. And I, I just wanted to kind of
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  like find just like an interesting looking one.
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  I saw like the little clip from this and I saw like the trailer
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  was the shots of the killer wrapping the presence of like
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  all the weapons. And honestly too, the killer
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  rapping skills on point. Yeah, super tight.
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  Oh my God, I'm jealous. I want I want a lesson with
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  them. But like, I didn't even like
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  listen to any of it 'cause I like my, the audio was silenced,
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  but like the visuals and the way that it looked and everything,
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  it looked like like a type of movie that I wanted to do.
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  And the influence for this one, by the way, that I feel like
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  inspired that theme for the the three movies I chose.
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  I feel like this is heavily inspired by Black Christmas.
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  I could definitely see that. With how it's shots and the
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  killer kind of I guess a little bit, it reminded me a little bit
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  of Black Christmas whenever I was watching like the clip of
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  it. So I was like, you know what,
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  this seems like it could be really cool.
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  So that's what I went with. OK, right, so now good.
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  What did you like about this one?
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  I actually thought this was a fun little story.
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  I like the concept. I like that you really get to
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  know all of the characters, which I think is more rare in
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  these types of low budget movies.
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  I feel like a lot of times they tend to just get get on with the
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  story and get to the like me of what's happening.
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  Yeah. Some of them like just jump the
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  gun and just go straight to like, this is what people want
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  to see. Yeah, but but we get to know
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  like the characters that we're involved with.
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  And there were like, actually, surprisingly, a lot of layers of
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  things going on. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of
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  surprising. Yeah, and the story was
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  cohesive. It made sense and I really liked
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  that. I liked the killer masks, how
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  they had like these drawn on I. Like that too.
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  That was really cool. The like I, I love that.
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  I think that's so fun and so camp and so drag in such an
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  amazing way. So I love that.
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  Yeah, I thought it was really cool.
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  And I, I like the way I like that the presents were
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  meaningful because what you were gifted was like what ended up
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  being the the tool that kills you.
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  That's smart. That's really, really cool.
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  And I think we had like, there are some amazing moments of
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  humor, like Dwayne being shocked that the final exam for his
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  history test was going to be cumulative, or Carissa when she
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  is killed in the bathtub and it's supposed to be that the
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  hair. Dryer.
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  That was so funny. The cord is too short and so he
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  just starts walloping her with the hair dryer.
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  That was amazing. Like that is A+ my type of
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  humor. So I think that this really told
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  a really fun and engaging story. Yeah, I agree with a lot of what
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  you said there. Let me pull on my notes I guess,
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  since I haven't done that yet and I write this shit down on.
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  There, dummy, that's the wrong movie.
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  There we go. Here we go.
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  OK, so the good the first one I have is I like the way that this
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  thing is shot. I like the look of it.
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  I looked down the line and I saw a couple of people complaining
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  about like the green filter thrown on, but I liked it
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  honestly. It like, I mean, if that's the
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  type of movie you want to make and that's the type of movie
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  that you enjoy watching, like I mean, I love those.
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  I love like those. Filters.
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  While we were watching that, I was like, oh, Travis probably
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  loves all the noise on the screen right now, Yeah.
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  I mean, honestly, if I make a movie I want to like, I'm
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  slapping that shit on there too, you know what I mean?
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  And they like, I feel like they knew what they were doing with
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  it because they it, it's color graded in a way that it looks
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  like it's like shot on like almost like eight 8mm, like
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  Super 8 film. OK.
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  Yeah. And they actually like got like
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  the lighting rail. It's like tungsten and stuff
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  like that. Like on indoor shots.
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  I don't know, like it. It looked really, really
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  impressive. I was kind of, I don't know.
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  I was pretty impressed with it. I like the shots of the killer's
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  perspective, too. I thought that they did a good
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  job with that. I think that the killer is
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  pretty effective in this movie too honestly.
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  Like the deaths that we get with those presents, they're pretty
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  like the effects are well done for such a small budget movie.
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  Yeah. And.
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  Not to harp on the hair dryer death too much, but like they
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  make her head look caved in. Yeah, no, they do a good job.
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  And then they also take the drill and drill that one girl's
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  eye out. Yeah, that eyeball was real
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  gooey looking. Yeah.
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  And I also feel like this is an appropriate runtime for this
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  type of movie because it's a very tight movie.
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  It's a very very limited in location, but it works.
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  It's like 78 minutes I think. Yeah, it's paced really well
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  too. So I feel like they like.
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  And that's another thing that I feel like you don't see too much
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  in these types of movies where it's clearly like, low budget.
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  And, you know, I don't know if this person's like, cranked out
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  a lot of movies or has a lot of experience, but they did a good
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  job pacing the story. Like, they like, timed out kills
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  just enough to keep it engaging that, like you said before, the
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  characters, we got a lot of depth with them.
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  Yeah. And it was all entertaining.
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  Like I was engaged throughout the entire time.
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  And it's not not to talk too much about our upcoming episode
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  too much, but double featuring this and it's a Wonderful Night,
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  which is also a very short movie with a very tight story.
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  Like it was a it was an amount of time that flew by faster than
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  it felt like it should have. Yeah, I honestly was shocked
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  when I was like, damn, is that it?
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  OK, so let's move on to Beth. What did you know like?
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  I think my biggest thing 'cause this is clearly not a multicam
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  production, so that means that when we have characters talking
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  to each other, you know, we've got those different angles of
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  people's faces on the conversation, right?
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  So we'll see like Brian's face in one shot and then Nicole's
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  face on the next shot. So that means those scenes are
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  being shot at least twice from different angles, right?
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  And when they're being edited together, he's leaving just a
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  little bit too much of A pause in between the lines.
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  So it doesn't feel like a natural flow of a conversation.
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  Like it's just half a beat too long.
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  And it's something that sticks with me.
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  And you know this from like when we've shot videos for her TikTok
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  where I'm like, we need to cut this faster.
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  And you're like, it's fine. I'm like, no, no, we need just a
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  little bit more. I get really picky about stuff
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  like that. And it is such an easy thing to
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  overlook. But it like it started to grate
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  on me as the movie went on. Like just those like slightly
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  too long pauses in between conversations.
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  Do you have anything else? Oh, that was the main thing for
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  me. Because I was going to jump in
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  because that's my bad. Is the editing.
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  Oh, really? Yeah, that is a thing that I
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  noticed too. He would linger on some shots a
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  little bit too long and I just think that.
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  So OK, one of the things especially kind of referencing
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  what you were talking about there, they had like every now
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  and then when you like cut a dialogue between two people like
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  that, you have to have it like facing like 1 character's on the
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  right side, 1 character's on the left side.
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  But like sometimes he would flip it.
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  So like the character's on the right side, but then in the next
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  shot they'd be on the left side and that right there.
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  It just like when you're watching a movie like that and
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  it's shot like that, like that just is weird.
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  It doesn't. It's not pleasing to see that.
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  I think it's funny that you were picking up on the visual stuff
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  and I was picking up on like the beats of the conversation type
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  stuff. Well, I was also doing that too,
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  because another thing I was going to say is I feel like, I
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  think for like most of the time it was OK.
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  I understand what you're saying. I think it really was hurting
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  the comedic timing. Yes, mostly with Dwayne's
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  scenes. Yes, because Dwayne, he's the
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  comedic character and I like, I could tell with the actor, he's
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  got comedic chops there. Yeah, he like, he had some funny
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  moments. Like he was like the humor
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  wasn't bad. There were times it was actually
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  really good. I was just thinking like, if you
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  cut it just a little bit, or if you just like, if you just do
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  something like edit, like don't make it be this drawn out or
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  something, or yeah, you gotta like comedic timing's tough.
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  Yeah. It's like an instinct thing.
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  Yes. And you know, I just, I feel
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  like those scenes would have landed better sometimes if they
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  were just a little bit added it better.
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  All of those comedic moments, I could tell that they were there
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  and what they were going for, but there was just like a little
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  bit of something off with all of them, like just holding them
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  back a teensy bit. Yeah, except for the scene with
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  the hair dryer. That was perfectly done.
• 19:57
  And I also think Dwayne's scene where he's cramming for the
• 20:00
  final, because I think that was meant to be frantic.
• 20:03
  And so we were getting like rapid fire moments.
• 20:06
  I think that helped in the editing 'cause he was trying to
• 20:09
  make it feel very frenetic and you know, like high speed.
• 20:14
  So I think that helped with the editing, which also helped with
• 20:17
  the the comedic feel of it. Yeah, yeah, I was just, I just
• 20:22
  watched his manager or just yeah, I could.
• 20:24
  I want to edit this thing I feel like I can fix.
• 20:27
  It, I feel like this is like a running theme that we're
• 20:29
  starting to notice with the the multi hyphenate.
• 20:33
  So the people that are writing, directing and editing, like
• 20:36
  there's always gonna yeah, the editing 'cause I think that's
• 20:39
  honestly been one of the biggest criticisms of Damian Lyon.
• 20:42
  Yeah, is that he struggles with editing his own films.
• 20:45
  That's one of those things that, like, I feel like it's hard to
• 20:47
  admit that you're not good at 'cause I feel like I'm a good
• 20:50
  editor. But then again, like, I feel
• 20:51
  like somebody would probably watch my show and be like, that
• 20:53
  needs work, man. Yeah, Like I'd be like.
• 20:56
  It's kind of like trying to proofread your own writing.
• 20:58
  Like you know what you mean, you know what your intention is, you
• 21:01
  know what the beats are supposed to be.
• 21:02
  And if you have somebody else come in and proofread and
• 21:04
  they're like, you need to get rid of all this and you're like,
• 21:06
  no. No, that's how.
• 21:08
  Perfect. That's it.
• 21:09
  That's this. Yeah.
• 21:11
  And then if you like, shelve it for a few months and you come
• 21:15
  back and you read it and you're like, what the fuck was I even
• 21:17
  going? For oh God, that happens to me
• 21:19
  all the time with my drawings. Yeah, I'll go back to them and
• 21:22
  be like, man, like actually, sometimes I feel like you're
• 21:24
  more critical of that stuff as you're working on it, but then
• 21:27
  you go back and you're like, oh, that was actually better than I
• 21:29
  thought in my head. When I look through my
• 21:31
  sketchbook, I'm like, who drew these?
• 21:33
  Certainly not to I, not to these hands.
• 21:36
  I guess I could be the same with this right here.
• 21:38
  Yeah. So I think it's just one of
• 21:39
  those. It's really, really hard to take
• 21:42
  that kind of a critical eye with your own your your own work and
• 21:46
  cut out stuff that you feel works or even on the other end
• 21:50
  of. Am I overthinking this?
• 21:52
  Probably. Let's just leave good enough
• 21:54
  alone and maybe it just needed a slight tweak.
• 21:57
  So sometimes just having that outside perspective can make a
• 22:00
  big difference. Yeah, for sure.
• 22:02
  I mean, and you do that sometimes with your drawing, for
• 22:05
  example, like I'm just going to take last week's episode, The
• 22:08
  Silent Night, Deadly Night Part 2.
• 22:09
  You're like, I'm struggling with this background.
• 22:11
  I want to do this. I don't know exactly what to do.
• 22:14
  And I was like, what if you do mostly this but just tweak it
• 22:17
  this way? Yeah.
• 22:18
  And it ended up giving it more of the flow that you were
• 22:21
  looking for. Help.
• 22:22
  Yeah, sometimes you need to help people.
• 22:23
  You don't have to take it on yourself.
• 22:25
  Jesse helps with that stuff a lot.
• 22:27
  It's hard doing that. It is, yeah.
• 22:32
  But ultimately, it makes for a better final product.
• 22:34
  Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
• 22:35
  You gotta take yourself out of it sometimes.
• 22:38
  I've got one more bad to go with this.
• 22:40
  I didn't necessarily care for the killer reveal.
• 22:45
  Yeah, I feel like the point was meant to be that there really is
• 22:50
  no point, but it also just kind of felt like, what was this all
• 22:53
  for them? Yeah, I like and that's fine if
• 22:57
  you're. I feel like they were trying to
• 22:58
  make a joke with it and that was one of those ones that didn't
• 23:00
  land with me. Yes.
• 23:02
  Because it ends up with the killer giving a 2 hour montage
• 23:05
  about how, like, he didn't get the Christmas presents he
• 23:07
  wanted. Yeah.
• 23:08
  And then there was basically that.
• 23:10
  And then, like you also know, throughout the whole movie,
• 23:13
  we've seen the core cast of characters.
• 23:15
  They're all together. It's not any of them.
• 23:18
  Yeah, it can't be any of them. They kept trying to give us red
• 23:21
  herrings with the professor and Bryan, but yeah, too many things
• 23:27
  were happening where they had plausible alibis.
• 23:31
  Yeah. I also like that they took away
• 23:33
  the creepy guy that was staring at like a or like creeping on
• 23:39
  Nicole. Yeah, because like, I mean,
• 23:41
  immediately, as soon as he's introduced, it's like, you know,
• 23:43
  he's not the killer because the killer was right there.
• 23:46
  Yeah but then again they throw 3 killers at you at the end.
• 23:48
  Yeah, that was. It was really weird about that
• 23:52
  is. Well, I'll save this for an
• 23:55
  absurd. OK, Yeah, we'll, we'll save that
• 23:57
  for absurd. All right, let's move on to
• 23:58
  ugly. Well, I'm glad you brought up
• 24:00
  the the peeping Tom prowler guy, because yeah, it's, it's
• 24:10
  disgusting. It's that it's that feeling that
• 24:14
  you're owed a person's body outside of the context that they
• 24:19
  are willing to share it with you.
• 24:22
  And it's gross and it's creepy. And the fact that he's crawling
• 24:26
  around in the shower, stealing shadows, stealing her underwear,
• 24:29
  sniffing it, just being so creepy, stalkery, and having
• 24:36
  such a parasocial relationship with this woman who is doing
• 24:40
  legal online sex work to pay off her student debt.
• 24:44
  And also because she enjoys it and feels empowered while doing
• 24:47
  it. Which could be a whole separate
• 24:50
  podcast episode on its own. And maybe someday it will.
• 24:52
  Because I eventually want to cover Cam.
• 24:55
  I was going to say, we're going to just like topic for an
• 24:57
  episode. But it it's just, oh, hit him,
• 25:03
  him, he, him ugly. Yeah, he ugly.
• 25:06
  Yeah, for sure. Let's see, what was my ugly?
• 25:10
  Oh, oh, yeah. Speaking of empowering, I
• 25:14
  thought it was really fucked up for Nicole to use the whole
• 25:17
  house's food and vegetation for her sex work.
• 25:22
  And then she wasn't going to, like she wasn't going to replace
• 25:24
  it. I feel like she had intentions
• 25:26
  to put it back in the kitchen after she was using it.
• 25:29
  She did ask if anybody was going to use the cucumber, so I was
• 25:31
  like, whatever. She took the entire fucking
• 25:33
  kitchen back there. Anyway, But yeah, she took the
• 25:35
  whole kitchen back there. And also like, that's gross.
• 25:39
  It's upsetting and shouldn't be used regardless.
• 25:43
  But also, Olivia, wash your vegetables before you make a
• 25:47
  power smoothie. Yeah, that.
• 25:49
  That's also a thing. Look, I'm not, I'm not going to
• 25:51
  kink Shane anybody. But, you know, don't use it.
• 25:55
  Do it responsibly. Do it responsibly.
• 25:57
  But if you're going to use food in your sex work, that's yours,
• 26:03
  don't. For people out there, don't put
• 26:06
  anything up the butt that's tapered at the end because it'll
• 26:09
  just suck right out. That's why they have like the
• 26:11
  flared options. Do I want to know why you know
• 26:14
  this Reddit OK? It comes up on Reddit on
• 26:19
  whatever for. Like I don't think I've ever
• 26:21
  been on a forum that at some point hasn't mentioned butt
• 26:24
  stuff. No, and I every forum mentions,
• 26:28
  but every, every post, Yeah, every post, one comment.
• 26:32
  Don't put something up your butt unless it's flared at the end.
• 26:36
  It's like sticky at the top of every thread.
• 26:38
  By the way, if it's tapered, do not stick it up your butt.
• 26:40
  There's. Actually, there was a reel I saw
• 26:42
  the other day and it was an EMT and it was like friendly
• 26:44
  reminder this holiday season and they were picking up various
• 26:47
  Christmas ornaments that were all tapered at the end.
• 26:49
  And she didn't say anything. She would just pick it up.
• 26:51
  She'd go. Gross.
• 26:56
  OK, let's go on over to absurd. Yeah, I, I again, I think this
• 27:04
  is one of those where, like, the editing didn't quite give the
• 27:08
  comedy of the moment what it needed.
• 27:11
  And I get that the killer was meant to be doing this, like,
• 27:14
  big montage of an absurd because a lot of, like, horror Christmas
• 27:19
  movies, especially their back story tends to be centered on
• 27:23
  some childhood trauma. And I, I get that that's what he
• 27:28
  was like trying to spoof with it.
• 27:30
  Yeah, but it it needed a little something to jujit up.
• 27:37
  But I I think that the case like let me go back to 1987.
• 27:41
  All I wanted was the Miss Molly doll and I was like, OK.
• 27:44
  Yeah, and it like pans up to like the top left corner.
• 27:47
  It's like, oh, OK, like A and there's like some.
• 27:50
  Various shots of him like doing random stuff around and who is
• 27:53
  The Who were the killers with him.
• 27:55
  It doesn't feel like it was his family.
• 27:57
  I think it is. I think that's the mom and the
• 27:59
  sister, which is weird because it's him.
• 28:03
  Yeah, I'm. They don't really they.
• 28:06
  Don't. You don't get a satisfying
• 28:09
  reveal with it. For anybody who hasn't seen it,
• 28:12
  and you know, obviously we're way into spoilers here, it's
• 28:15
  like random Christmas carolers that they encounter throughout
• 28:18
  the movie. Like, I mean, there's no reason
• 28:22
  as to why it should be them. I really thought that we were
• 28:26
  going to get some kind of more grounded reveal of like, hey,
• 28:30
  all we try and do is spread shear and instead we get like
• 28:34
  icy slush, water splash on us, bun you drive by us and you
• 28:38
  don't tip us when we perform because we saw things like that
• 28:41
  happening to them throughout. So I was like.
• 28:43
  Also, Dwayne destroyed their bell.
• 28:45
  Yeah. So like I thought we were going
• 28:47
  to get something related to that and then it completely reversed
• 28:51
  the script on us, which I again, I think was almost really,
• 28:55
  really funny. Yeah, I would think that that
• 28:58
  could be the reason why, if it wasn't planted from the
• 29:01
  beginning, that somebody was already killing them.
• 29:03
  Yeah, yeah. Like why?
• 29:06
  What did Jerry do? Yeah, yeah.
• 29:09
  And I guess OK. So here's one the one thing that
• 29:12
  I was thinking about for my absurd before, but throughout
• 29:15
  the movie we see that the person kill him.
• 29:17
  Yeah, it's Clay. Yeah.
• 29:20
  At the end, we get three other people walking in, all dressed
• 29:22
  the same with, like, wildly different body frames.
• 29:26
  Yeah. Are we supposed to believe that
• 29:28
  it's been all of them doing this, or did they just decide,
• 29:31
  hey, we're going to dress up too?
• 29:33
  And also, what made Nicole so special that she gets the bad
• 29:37
  guy montage? Is it just because he's also a
• 29:39
  subscriber? Because he said he likes Naughty
• 29:42
  Nikki? Oh, really?
• 29:43
  Yeah, yeah, I guess he didn't. Well, I don't know.
• 29:46
  I honestly I think it was because she was the last one and
• 29:50
  they wanted to and she also put up a good fight.
• 29:53
  That's true, she did put up a good fight.
• 29:55
  OK, I got some other absurds, actually just one more and it
• 29:59
  was the hair dry thing. Oh, OK.
• 30:01
  Which is awesome. I loved it, it was such a fun
• 30:03
  scene. I I love that.
• 30:04
  So that was probably my favorite moment of the whole movie.
• 30:07
  Yeah, I mean, it caught me so off guard when it happened cuz
• 30:10
  like all the humor was basically from Dwayne.
• 30:13
  Yes. And like when we get like a
• 30:15
  comedic scene between Dwayne or the killer and Carissa, like I
• 30:18
  just didn't see it coming. Especially whenever like oh,
• 30:21
  like that's how also it's weird how how they plan this out.
• 30:27
  Like how do you know that you're going to get them in the tub and
• 30:30
  be able to electrocute them like that?
• 30:33
  That was a very specific one for Carissa.
• 30:36
  Yeah, yeah, 'cause we had like, I wouldn't have thought that
• 30:40
  this house even had multiple bathrooms.
• 30:42
  I don't think it does because we've we just see that one
• 30:44
  bathroom the entire. Time.
• 30:45
  No, that was a different bathroom, was it?
• 30:47
  Yes, the the setup of it was different.
• 30:49
  The one that she's killed in a set up more like our our
• 30:51
  bathroom, whereas the one that everybody else is killed in the
• 30:55
  tub is behind the mirror. Yeah, you're right.
• 30:57
  You're right. Yeah.
• 30:58
  Huh. OK, interesting all.
• 31:00
  Right, if you want to know what our bathroom layout it's like.
• 31:02
  Now you know, Yeah, we'll send you the floor plan.
• 31:06
  OK. So let's rate it then.
• 31:09
  I think I'm gonna give this A6 OK.
• 31:12
  I think it's more good than bad. I think it's got very like to
• 31:15
  use HGTV Pylance. It's got very good bones.
• 31:18
  It does. Yeah.
• 31:19
  I'm going to give it a seven. OK.
• 31:21
  I honestly like this way more than I expected to.
• 31:24
  And I thought that it was really well done.
• 31:28
  Like, yeah, it's inspiring to see, like, a small indie film.
• 31:33
  Like I'm like I could do this. This is a person that I would
• 31:36
  love to see with a bigger budget.
• 31:38
  Yeah, for sure. Honestly and honestly, like the
• 31:40
  acting was pretty solid, yeah, all, all considered.
• 31:43
  I I honestly, because I looked up several of the cast members
• 31:47
  because I was like, I feel like I've seen them in other things.
• 31:49
  I haven't, but they're good enough for me to be like, yeah,
• 31:52
  where else have I seen them? Yeah, I want to see the rest of
• 31:55
  this. Yeah, for sure.
• 31:56
  And the other people? There yeah and I know I saw
• 31:59
  several of them are in a different movie.
• 32:01
  I cannot remember the name of it right now, but yeah, same team.
• 32:04
  I assume it has to be that. Usually when that happens it's.
• 32:07
  That's because it's a similar team.
• 32:08
  Yeah, cool. All right, so what's our?
• 32:11
  6.5. Yeah, easy.
• 32:14
  Cool. Yeah.
• 32:16
  OK, let's get into it. Let's get into it.
• 32:21
  So we start off with Jerry carrying a very drunk Carissa
• 32:23
  home from the bar. She's upset the bouncer kicked
• 32:26
  her out because she was too drunk and it's still pretty
• 32:29
  early in the night. So Jerry gets her home and into
• 32:34
  bed and then she lays down and she was like, I'm too sober for
• 32:37
  this shit. Yeah, not before throwing up on
• 32:39
  her. Oh yeah.
• 32:41
  And she also threw up on the bouncer and then tried to make
• 32:43
  up on her make out with them. She's just like a vomiting.
• 32:46
  Girl. Yeah, this is Carissa, right?
• 32:48
  Yes, it is Carissa. So yeah, Jerry decides that
• 32:52
  she's going to go take a shower because she got thrown up.
• 32:54
  On Yeah, she She takes a swig from her flask first, because
• 32:58
  again, she got thrown up on. This also reminded me of the
• 33:03
  house mom from Black Christmas. Just like having like, alcohol
• 33:05
  stored throughout the house. Yeah.
• 33:07
  So she goes into the bathroom, takes a quick shower, and then
• 33:11
  when she gets back to her room, she's got her present waiting on
• 33:14
  her bed. And it's a power drill and it's
• 33:16
  a used power drill. So then she like goes back to
• 33:20
  the bathroom to do something. She grabs a straightener.
• 33:23
  Straightener. That's why she's gonna.
• 33:25
  Do she's gonna do her hair. And when she gets back, the
• 33:28
  president is gone. And she's like, this is weird.
• 33:31
  And so she steps out into the hallway and she goes, yeah, It
• 33:34
  is 10:00 PM on a Friday. I am sober.
• 33:36
  I've been thrown up on please stop messing with me.
• 33:39
  And somebody else pops out. I want to say this was Olivia.
• 33:42
  Yeah. OK.
• 33:43
  She's like, are you good? She goes, I just, are you
• 33:45
  messing with me? And she's like, no.
• 33:47
  And she's like, OK, I just. Whatever.
• 33:49
  It's a weird night. So she goes back into the room.
• 33:52
  And when she does, she gets pushed onto the bed, pillow
• 33:55
  cover, her face and then power drill right through it, which
• 33:58
  good to work on that power drill.
• 33:59
  It's quite also that means that it was well charged.
• 34:03
  Smart to put the pillow over the face to, like, press the scream.
• 34:06
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 34:07
  Really well done. So it is the next morning
• 34:11
  Chrissa is waking up confused about being home.
• 34:14
  Yeah, she's home. She's asleep on the floor.
• 34:17
  Everybody keeps saying she looks bad.
• 34:19
  I think she's still very beautiful.
• 34:21
  She is one of the prettier hungover people I've ever seen.
• 34:24
  She looks fine. Yeah.
• 34:26
  We get Nicole. She's doing her Cam girl work.
• 34:29
  Yeah. She's like got like a little
• 34:31
  like neon wig on and she's like doing all these poses and stuff
• 34:35
  and then she gets interrupted by Brian knocking at the door.
• 34:39
  They've got to go to class. And she scrambles.
• 34:42
  But she had. To have known it was almost
• 34:44
  class time. Well, yeah, but she she's
• 34:46
  keeping the secret from everybody, so she scrambles real
• 34:48
  quick. So I put herself together and
• 34:49
  then she gets out the door. And this is where we get to
• 34:53
  History four O 3 and we get a montage of the semester
• 34:57
  beforehand. So week 1, they're sitting
• 35:00
  there, their friend Dwayne comes and sits down and he's not
• 35:02
  taking notes. He's like, it's fine, he'll post
• 35:04
  the notes. Hold on a second, but if this
• 35:07
  was week 1. I think we're getting like a
• 35:11
  flashback throughout the semester.
• 35:14
  Oh. That is the impression I got.
• 35:17
  I didn't get that. That wasn't clear because I was
• 35:19
  thinking like, if that's the case, then the killer gave her a
• 35:21
  present back in, like, no. August No, I think we were
• 35:25
  getting a flashback, but I think they filmed all of the flashback
• 35:28
  scenes at the same time, so it's not super clear without the.
• 35:32
  OK. The title cart or Chiron's or
• 35:36
  whatever. That makes sense that that makes
• 35:38
  more sense for it to be flashbacks.
• 35:39
  Yeah, so week 1 he's not taking notes and he's just kicking
• 35:43
  back. Week 4 he is just late to class.
• 35:47
  Week 8 he is straight up asleep. Week 10 he doesn't even show up.
• 35:51
  Three days ago we see Dwayne set out a few lines of coke and
• 35:56
  prepare for a 72 hour cram session where he The fact that
• 36:02
  this is cumulative. It's a history class bro.
• 36:05
  So cumulative, if I remember right, is like it's over
• 36:08
  everything covered throughout the entire class, not just like
• 36:10
  the final lesson, right? Right.
• 36:12
  OK. Yeah, which is fairly common for
• 36:15
  finals, honestly. It's more rare for a final to be
• 36:19
  based off of the last unit than it is for it to be cumulative.
• 36:24
  Yeah, so, but usually with the cumulative, if you've been
• 36:28
  showing up to class, the questions are gonna be repeated
• 36:30
  from previous exams. True, that's yeah.
• 36:34
  So yeah, he's shit out of luck, Yeah.
• 36:37
  And he does a shit ton of drugs to stay awake.
• 36:39
  He pulls an all. Nighter.
• 36:41
  So for three nights in a row. Yeah, so he.
• 36:46
  He gets an alarm and it's time to go to the final.
• 36:49
  Then we cut to Olivia. She is ATA.
• 36:53
  She comes into the professor's office and she is flirting with
• 36:56
  him and he is into it because, oh, they've been secret dating.
• 37:00
  But they will be able to go public in just a few hours once
• 37:04
  the final is over. That's also an ugly for this.
• 37:07
  Movie. Yeah.
• 37:08
  I There was so much going on that I forgot about this
• 37:11
  storyline until just now. I like the tension that is
• 37:14
  throughout the movie with him being around the rest of them
• 37:17
  though it's. So real and the moments, this is
• 37:22
  another thing that we didn't really talk about.
• 37:24
  The moments when the friends are shocked by something and as soon
• 37:27
  as the person leaves the room, they all make, they're like, my
• 37:32
  God, that's so real to life where you're like, and then they
• 37:35
  leave the room and you're like. What?
• 37:39
  Yeah. Also they call him, like, old.
• 37:41
  And I'm like, man, he's probably younger than us, than us.
• 37:44
  And then I'm like, that tracks. Because I remember whenever I
• 37:46
  graduated college and I worked with the guy who said he was 23,
• 37:49
  I'm like, damn, he's old. Yeah, I was like 21 at the time.
• 37:53
  Yeah, it's really weird. Yeah, cuz the professor looked
• 37:56
  young. Yeah, obviously.
• 37:59
  He could have also been cast as one of just the friends.
• 38:01
  Yeah, for sure. And he's the professor of the
• 38:04
  class that Dwayne is taking. That wasn't super clear to me at
• 38:08
  first. Yeah, OK, so he goes because I
• 38:12
  had student knocks on the door to talk to him.
• 38:14
  And then, in the meantime, Olivia hangs back to work on
• 38:18
  grading some papers. And when she's looking for a
• 38:20
  stapler, she finds a gift in the drawer and she's about to peek
• 38:24
  when the phone rings and that interrupts her.
• 38:25
  It has the same wrapping as the killer, yes.
• 38:27
  Too. So Dwayne, Nicole and Brian are
• 38:31
  in Brian's car before the exam. Dwayne is not OK he's very
• 38:35
  jittery and shaky. Then they get they go to the
• 38:42
  class and they take their exam and he is before they tripping.
• 38:45
  Yeah, he's tripping hard. He's like looking at Nicole.
• 38:48
  Her eyes are getting gigantic and her face is distorted.
• 38:51
  Meanwhile, Brian gets a phone call and he goes to answer it
• 38:54
  and it's Carissa calling to wish him good luck on the exam.
• 38:59
  So you know, there's something there.
• 39:01
  He goes back and like, I was like, who?
• 39:02
  Oh, who was? I was like, oh, it was my mom.
• 39:04
  Wish me luck. Yeah, yeah.
• 39:07
  They take their tests and then they're done with class now.
• 39:10
  Olivia and Carissa are back at their shared rental house and
• 39:14
  they are arguing about the decor for the party cuz Olivia's like
• 39:18
  that wreath is off center. She goes no it's fine it was off
• 39:20
  center. Olivia was correct.
• 39:21
  It was very much off center. So apparently this is like a
• 39:26
  whole thing. Olivia is very much a
• 39:27
  perfectionist and Carissa likes to get drunk at 11:00 AM.
• 39:31
  So they do their their, they do their things.
• 39:33
  Yeah, meanwhile Dwayne, being exhausted from a 72 hour study
• 39:37
  session, goes back home to crash and burn.
• 39:40
  But. He looks like he's in a dorm.
• 39:42
  Yeah, he's in a dorm and. Then the fire alarm goes off and
• 39:45
  he starts crying and I I remember that from the college
• 39:49
  days. Uh huh.
• 39:50
  Yeah. Oh, your fraternity brothers
• 39:53
  kidnapping you? And I've been up until three
• 39:55
  writing a final paper. Oh man, yeah, I was.
• 39:58
  Like you all are the worst. Yeah, I remember.
• 40:03
  I was like, guys, this is like the fucking worst time to do
• 40:06
  this right here. Well.
• 40:07
  Then our friend was like, well they actually wanted you to do
• 40:09
  it right before you were formal. And I told them how much that
• 40:12
  was, grew up your formal and I was like, yes, it would have so.
• 40:15
  For anybody curious, I was legitimately kidnapped.
• 40:18
  Yeah, they put a sack over my head.
• 40:20
  I went willingly. They're like, hey, we need you
• 40:23
  to come back to the house for a second.
• 40:24
  We just need you. I'm like, oh, OK, fine.
• 40:26
  And then they're like, OK, I'm riding with them in the back
• 40:28
  seat and like, hey, we got to put this bag over your head.
• 40:31
  I went along with it and then they tied me up.
• 40:35
  Yeah, when I had to drive there, very dangerous again because it
• 40:39
  was 4 in the morning and I've been up writing a final paper.
• 40:43
  Yeah, so that's frat life. Yeah.
• 40:46
  Yeah. Greek life.
• 40:48
  So. OK, so he's like, yeah, he's
• 40:50
  gotta go. Nicole tries to confess to Brian
• 40:54
  about being a Cam girl. She's like, you know, I've, you
• 40:58
  know what happens when you get a lot of debt and stuff and he's
• 41:00
  like, oh, do you need money? She's like, no, no, but like
• 41:03
  and. Then he's like, I'll take you to
• 41:04
  student center, help you apply for loans and she's like.
• 41:07
  Never mind. Yeah, so she just gets dropped
• 41:10
  off instead. Yeah, she goes into her room and
• 41:14
  she starts doing a video and one of the viewers is like, hey,
• 41:17
  there's somebody in your window. When she turns around, she
• 41:19
  doesn't see anyone. She's like, I'm kicking you out
• 41:21
  of the chat, that guy's. Probably like what the fuck
• 41:23
  dude, I was helping you. But also like close your fucking
• 41:25
  blinds like. If you're gonna be doing like a
• 41:27
  Cam girl session, yeah, probably best to do that.
• 41:30
  Why give the goods away for free?
• 41:33
  Yeah, I guess. Yeah, that's the way to look at
• 41:35
  it. I mean, she's doing paid work
• 41:37
  right there, you know, and then having the window open, like,
• 41:41
  I'm not saying it from a prudish aspect, but from a purely
• 41:44
  business perspective and a safety perspective.
• 41:46
  Yeah, sure. And so Dwayne is freaking out at
• 41:52
  the Carolers because he's walking to their house to go
• 41:55
  sleep, but he's still tripping. And he grabs their bell and
• 42:00
  takes it because he thinks it's like a weapon or something.
• 42:03
  And he just like, slams it on the ground and stomps it.
• 42:05
  And then he like is he is so upset that he has dented up this
• 42:11
  little bell and they are so, so confused about what just
• 42:14
  happened. And then we cut to a shot of the
• 42:16
  killer rapping a cleaver. See, this is cool.
• 42:21
  I like the shot. I like like him just being
• 42:24
  there, wrapping these presents. I thought that that was a really
• 42:26
  cool setup right there. They tucked Dwayne into Jerry's
• 42:30
  bed 'cause she's not home yet. They're not sure where she is,
• 42:33
  but they're just, they're like, whatever, she'll show up in time
• 42:35
  for the party. So they tucked Dwayne into her
• 42:37
  bed so that way he can get a nap.
• 42:39
  Carissa goes to Brian's apartment and he's like, listen,
• 42:44
  the other night was a mistake. We shouldn't have done that.
• 42:46
  I love Nicole and she's like, wonder what Nicole would say if
• 42:52
  I told her about the other night.
• 42:53
  And he goes, I'll do anything, she has anything.
• 42:56
  And then it cuts to her with like a ton of shopping bags and
• 42:58
  an ice coat. Yeah.
• 43:00
  Like did they go back and then come back or something?
• 43:02
  I don't know. Yeah.
• 43:03
  That was the implication, I think.
• 43:05
  Yeah, he probably didn't have the the licensing to be able to
• 43:08
  film in a mall. Oh, surely.
• 43:10
  Yeah. All right, So back at the House
• 43:12
  of the girls, the Olivia interrupts Nicole's camp session
• 43:18
  and she sees all of the fruits that she has had on her bed and
• 43:23
  then she takes them to the kitchen and she juices them and
• 43:27
  she drinks them right in front of Nicole and Nicole does not
• 43:29
  say a single thing about it. Dwayne rolls off the bed, and
• 43:34
  when he opens his eyes, he sees Jerry's body and kind of falls
• 43:39
  back asleep. And Nicole goes in to check on
• 43:41
  him and he's like, no, no, no. But Jerry's under the bed and
• 43:44
  she's missing an eye and she was like, oh, you're still tripping
• 43:46
  real hard. He goes no, no, no, it's real.
• 43:48
  And when she peeks down there, nothing's there.
• 43:51
  How did the killer move the body with everybody in the room?
• 43:55
  I That's a very good question. I couldn't.
• 43:59
  I was just thinking about it the entire time.
• 44:01
  I was like, how did this happen? Blood stain?
• 44:03
  Snow blood stain? No, there should have been blood
• 44:05
  stain. Listen, Jerry dies, but Jerry
• 44:08
  doesn't bleed. I guess pizza arrives and he as
• 44:16
  he's leaving he sees the prowler outside the window and he does
• 44:19
  try and scare him off, but when the guy runs he doesn't chase
• 44:22
  him because whatever he doesn't get paid enough for that and
• 44:24
  whatever he like, he feels like he did the right thing.
• 44:26
  He's. Good.
• 44:26
  They were also rude to him because when he was delivering
• 44:29
  pizzas, like. Because Nicole answers the door.
• 44:31
  He's like, I think I recognize you from somewhere.
• 44:33
  She's like, oh, I've just got that face and, like slams the
• 44:34
  door. Yeah.
• 44:35
  And he's pissed off. He's like calls her a bitch and.
• 44:38
  The implication is definitely that he watches.
• 44:40
  Her. Yeah, He's a Cam.
• 44:41
  Yeah, he's a Cam watcher. Yeah.
• 44:43
  So like, after, like, chasing that guy off because, like, the
• 44:46
  killer, we saw a POV shot of him watching them from inside, like
• 44:50
  from outside the window. And he, like, watched the pizza
• 44:53
  being delivered. So the pizza driver goes back
• 44:56
  into his car, gets in the driver's seat, and before he's
• 44:59
  about to drive off, the killer comes out from behind him in the
• 45:01
  back. Seat on the back seat.
• 45:02
  Yeah, and slits his throat. So Brian arrives for the party
• 45:07
  and Olivia sets a hot pan of snacks on a glass coffee table.
• 45:14
  No, no. Yeah, that that really got you
• 45:18
  riled up last. Night because you can't do shit
• 45:21
  like that. That's how you damage your
• 45:23
  furniture and create a mess. That's like when we went to our
• 45:25
  friend's house and he. The Pyrex shattered.
• 45:28
  Yeah, he was making food and then he got the Pyrex, set it on
• 45:31
  top of the stove and it fucking exploded.
• 45:35
  And that's how. You get bloody macaroni and
• 45:37
  cheese. I am not shitting you guys.
• 45:41
  It was a fucking grenade. The glass shot everywhere, right
• 45:45
  next to us. It hit people.
• 45:47
  People were bleeding. We got served macaroni grenade,
• 45:54
  Yeah. So yeah, don't do that, man.
• 45:58
  We're going into weird. Stories today.
• 46:01
  I thought the snacks were gross. So everybody disposes of them.
• 46:05
  So that way you know, cuz they're like, you know, Olivia,
• 46:08
  she'll make us eat all of them and she sees that they're all
• 46:10
  eating and she goes, cool, I'll go make some more.
• 46:12
  What if they were nasty because Nicole was shoving them all over
• 46:15
  her body? They looked like little puff
• 46:18
  pastries or something, I don't know.
• 46:21
  I don't know, it could have been used from the material, Yeah.
• 46:24
  So anyways. Professor Ramsey arrives, yes,
• 46:29
  although we can call him Preston now.
• 46:31
  And they go public. And I was like, OK, cool,
• 46:35
  congratulations. And he's like, guys, just treat
• 46:39
  me like I'm one of you. It's cool.
• 46:41
  The semester's over. This guy he like he he's there
• 46:46
  for Olivia. He doesn't really want to be
• 46:47
  there no, and she's like it's cool.
• 46:49
  You'll blend in and he wants to blend in, I think, but he does
• 46:52
  such a terrible he's so he's. A sweet jacket and a sweater
• 46:56
  vest. But he's also he doesn't treat
• 46:58
  them like people. At one point he even like says
• 47:01
  something about somebody's final essay and like, don't.
• 47:04
  You're just reminding them that you're their professor.
• 47:07
  Yeah, one dude just, like, taps his shoulder too, and he's like,
• 47:09
  don't do that. I mean, it's fun to have your
• 47:11
  boundaries, but like, I don't know, he's very standoffish.
• 47:13
  Well, cuz somebody was saying it's the jacket, isn't it?
• 47:15
  Where'd you get it? And he said it was a gift and it
• 47:17
  was very expensive. So when they tapped his shoulder
• 47:19
  he's like don't do that still cuz of the jacket.
• 47:21
  Still, that's not how you get yourself into a friend group.
• 47:25
  We see the bag of presents under the tree get swapped out by a
• 47:28
  gloved hand with a different bag, so we also see the prowler
• 47:33
  in the house. Also, Jerry has texted saying
• 47:36
  that she's not gonna be there. She's sorry, but she had a
• 47:39
  family member pass, so she had to go.
• 47:41
  Yeah, see. And they're all like.
• 47:43
  And then that's it. That's the end of Jerry's story.
• 47:44
  Yeah, so we see the prowler in the house and he sniffing
• 47:50
  Nicole's underwear and it's gross.
• 47:53
  They start passing out gifts and Brian gets a cleaver and it is
• 47:58
  kind of a buzz killing moment. And everybody kind of branches
• 48:02
  off and Olivia's upset. She's like, this is our first
• 48:04
  gift and. It's so, like, it's so funny how
• 48:07
  many times they try to stop, like they, they try to do this
• 48:11
  and they stop and just like take breaks like after every single
• 48:13
  present. Dude, it is a Secret Santa.
• 48:16
  Just fucking go through it. Yeah, So Nicole takes the
• 48:20
  opportunity to just like, get Brian by himself and finally
• 48:23
  come queen about what she wants to do with herself.
• 48:26
  And he is kind of in shock and he's like, I need a minute.
• 48:33
  So he goes outside and Krista joins, and he kind of like,
• 48:38
  let's it all spill. Like he's like, Oh yeah, my
• 48:40
  girlfriend's a porn star. And Chris is like, what?
• 48:43
  I'm going to say this is probably the best acted and
• 48:46
  edited scene in the entire movie.
• 48:47
  Whenever I saw this, I was like, oh, this is like really, really
• 48:50
  hidden right here. They did a good job in this
• 48:52
  moment. So she tries to come on to him
• 48:55
  because she thinks that he's available now, but he still
• 48:59
  denies her. And he goes back upstairs and
• 49:03
  he's like, listen, I don't, I'm not going to say that I get it
• 49:09
  or that I understand, but if this makes you happy, I will be
• 49:12
  your manager and. He's got a not really, but he's
• 49:17
  just wanting to get a peep at her.
• 49:19
  Yeah, her outfits and stuff like that before you show.
• 49:22
  So we get back to Secret Santa and Carissa gets an old hair
• 49:26
  dryer, Dwayne gets some gardening shears, and Liv gets
• 49:29
  an electric Carver. We cut to seeing the prowler and
• 49:34
  he is killed. And then the carolers come to
• 49:39
  the house and Carissa at first is like college student can't
• 49:45
  tip you. And Nicole's like, wait, hold
• 49:46
  on. No, I wanna, I wanna listen.
• 49:49
  Sorry, my roommate's rude. And then she like cheers.
• 49:51
  But she also doesn't tip cuz she's like.
• 49:53
  Yeah, she's like, sorry, I'm a college student.
• 49:55
  Just like closes the door on them.
• 49:57
  And that's funny. Carissa is annoyed seeing Nicole
• 50:01
  and Brian be all lovey dovey, so she hits on Dwayne and Dwayne is
• 50:05
  like absolutely yes, let's go do this.
• 50:08
  In the kitchen. Preston gives Olivia his gift to
• 50:11
  her, which is a snow globe and it's cute and seems fitting for
• 50:17
  a new relationship. And then she goes look what I
• 50:20
  got. Betcha.
• 50:22
  Yeah, everybody else's gifts sucked.
• 50:24
  I got a snow globe. Y'all got used tools and I got a
• 50:28
  snow globe. Suck it, bitches.
• 50:32
  So she's like, OK, nature calls. So she goes into the bathroom
• 50:37
  and also Dwayne can't get it up. Yeah.
• 50:40
  So Carissa leaves him. He was on a lot of trucks.
• 50:43
  Yeah, they've been drinking since I got.
• 50:44
  He was super, super intoxicated on many, many substances.
• 50:48
  So she leaves him while Olivia's in the bathroom.
• 50:52
  The killer also is in the shower, takes the electric
• 50:55
  Carver and carves her stomach. Yep, So she's she dead?
• 50:58
  She seems like potential for a final girl, but.
• 51:02
  Yeah, I was. I was shocked to see her go so
• 51:04
  soon. Yeah, Carissa goes to the
• 51:07
  bathroom so she can take a bath. We cut to the living room and
• 51:13
  it's like awkward small talk between Preston and Nicole and
• 51:16
  Brian eventually joins in and like, it's very much a like I'm
• 51:21
  meeting my partners friends for the first time and they left the
• 51:24
  room and oh, God, what are we going to talk about?
• 51:26
  With an added extra layer of these?
• 51:28
  We're my students earlier this morning.
• 51:30
  Yeah. So and Nicole was the only one
• 51:33
  to not open her present. So the professor keeps
• 51:35
  encouraging her to open the present.
• 51:37
  She's like, I want to wait for everybody to be.
• 51:38
  Around the way he says it, he's like, why don't you open your
• 51:41
  present? Hey, Nicole.
• 51:42
  It's yeah, it's that he does it in a very creepy way.
• 51:45
  Look at. That present right there.
• 51:46
  Don't you want to just RIP it over?
• 51:48
  It's also like they make a joke about something unrelated, like
• 51:51
  she tries to move the the conversations like so answer or
• 51:56
  open a present. You just laugh like Tommy was.
• 51:58
  Oh. Great story, Mark.
• 52:02
  Did you get the promotion? Nah.
• 52:07
  That's just what a pizza Dave you think.
• 52:14
  That's another Christmas movie. It is for us at least.
• 52:18
  Somehow it became a Christmas movie.
• 52:20
  I'm not mad about it. Okay, all right, so anyways,
• 52:24
  while all of this is going down, Dwayne finally gets an erection.
• 52:28
  Yeah, and then just in time, the killer comes in there, takes the
• 52:31
  garden shears and snips it. I was not prepared to see peen.
• 52:36
  I was not either, but not real peen.
• 52:38
  It's a it's a fake peen that gets.
• 52:40
  Snitched. Yeah.
• 52:41
  Well, yeah, it's prop peen. But I'm still I'm always
• 52:44
  grateful when movies will go there.
• 52:46
  Yeah, I mean, we got female nudity with the showers and
• 52:49
  stuff in this so. Equal rides, equal sites, yeah.
• 52:52
  So yeah, he's dead. The killer then enters the
• 52:56
  bathroom where Chris is taking a bath.
• 52:58
  And then she's it's like she thinks it's Dwayne trying to get
• 53:03
  sex still. And then the killer just goes
• 53:05
  over there, gets the hair dryer, plugs it in, takes it, and then
• 53:09
  tosses it towards the top, but the cord's too short and it just
• 53:12
  flops in the ground. I like the cord is too short and
• 53:14
  also it unplugs from the wall so.
• 53:17
  It's just like the whole thing. Just flatters down.
• 53:20
  Yeah. And then it's just like an
• 53:21
  awkward moment where they're just like making eye contact and
• 53:24
  then she freaks out. And then the killer takes the
• 53:26
  hair dryer and just starts bludgeoning her with it.
• 53:29
  Yeah, and Nicole hears the screams, but she thinks it's
• 53:31
  just really loud sex. Yeah.
• 53:34
  So Preston and Brian go around the house looking for Olivia.
• 53:38
  Nicole is also helping them. Brian ends up finding Olivia's
• 53:43
  body in the bathroom, and Nicole and Brian hear him.
• 53:47
  Preston. Yeah.
• 53:49
  Why did I write Brian? Oh no.
• 53:51
  Yeah, he he goes into the bathroom and he finds her.
• 53:54
  So they come running because they hear him scream, but they
• 53:56
  see him holding the Carver over top of Olivia's dead body.
• 54:00
  Listen, people finding loved ones dead in movies, stop
• 54:05
  grabbing the weapons. It's just like pieces.
• 54:07
  It's always going to make you look suspicious.
• 54:09
  And you're putting your DNA on the Yeah.
• 54:11
  You are. You are tarnishing the crime
• 54:14
  scene. Yeah.
• 54:15
  Now they're never going to find who killed Olivia.
• 54:17
  Good job, Preston. So Brian and Nicole think that
• 54:20
  he's the killer, so they run to the car to go drive off.
• 54:23
  But Nicole sees a bloody knife in Brian's front seat, so she
• 54:28
  thinks he's the killer. So she runs inside, locks him
• 54:31
  out, and then she's watching from outside or from inside out
• 54:35
  the window. Brian's pleading to be let in,
• 54:37
  but the killer pounces on him and kills him.
• 54:39
  Yeah. Chops his head off.
• 54:41
  With the cleaver. With the cleaver, yeah.
• 54:43
  So they all all the knives are gone from the kitchen.
• 54:50
  The kitchen, Yeah. So what she has is a fork and
• 54:53
  the fireplace poker. You know that's all you need
• 54:55
  sometimes. And honestly, the poker, I think
• 54:58
  it's a pretty good weapon. It's a really solid.
• 55:00
  Those are those are wrought iron.
• 55:01
  Yeah, they're pointy. They normally have like the one
• 55:05
  point and then also the the hooky point.
• 55:07
  Yeah, you can stab, you can whack, you can swamp.
• 55:12
  There's so many things you can do with one.
• 55:14
  You can poke, you can. Poke.
• 55:16
  Yeah, yeah. You can agitate, you can
• 55:19
  motivate. If you hold it in the fire for
• 55:23
  long enough, you can eventually brand.
• 55:25
  Yeah, yeah. So it's such.
• 55:27
  It's like the perfect one. Yeah.
• 55:29
  Honestly people should be using them more often anyways.
• 55:32
  The killer comes in and she gets one of them.
• 55:37
  She stabs a killer. With the fire poker through the
• 55:40
  tongue, tongue and. Then another one comes out and
• 55:42
  then grabs her. And then Preston appears and a
• 55:46
  third killer comes up and stabs him in the neck with a
• 55:48
  screwdriver. Yes.
• 55:49
  So we've got the three killers, two of them tie her up, and God,
• 55:55
  I was messing up on all of these names.
• 55:57
  Last night, yeah. It gets confusing.
• 55:59
  The killer takes the screwdriver and gets pressed and.
• 56:01
  And that's when all the killers show up after that.
• 56:03
  And then she wakes up after being knocked out.
• 56:07
  And this is when the killer starts going on about all the
• 56:11
  reasons why Christmas ruined. Him.
• 56:15
  Him. Yeah.
• 56:17
  And we don't get anything from the other two.
• 56:19
  No, the old lady says that she just is really good at chopping
• 56:24
  up bodies and she's also a psychopath, so that's having.
• 56:27
  Fun. Yeah.
• 56:27
  OK, what about May? May.
• 56:30
  So we don't. Get yeah, she's pissed that
• 56:32
  she's been stabbed and they're like shut up, I need to do my
• 56:34
  bad guy monologue. And she bleeds out by the time
• 56:36
  he's done. Yeah, and it's like shots of the
• 56:39
  kitchen stuff clock and it's been 2 hours.
• 56:42
  And then whenever Clay is done spewing on about this stuff,
• 56:46
  she's like, that's it. I couldn't have gotten the Cliff
• 56:48
  Notes version of this. You went on for two hours about
• 56:51
  how you had bad Christmases. That's.
• 56:54
  It she's got a point so she manages to get free and she
• 56:59
  stabs the older lady and then runs from Clay.
• 57:03
  Was that his name? She runs and they end up
• 57:06
  fighting and she stabs him and he's like, you haven't sure who
• 57:11
  left me and he's got like the stage blood pouring out of his
• 57:14
  mouth. Yeah, yeah.
• 57:16
  And the cops are coming. I guess the cops have heard this
• 57:19
  commotion. Maybe somebody saw Brian get
• 57:21
  decapitated. Hopefully.
• 57:23
  I would hope so, yeah. Jesus.
• 57:26
  So and it's one year later. Yeah, one year.
• 57:29
  Later, a friend is dropping Nicole off at her house and she
• 57:36
  is going in. She's getting ready to do do
• 57:38
  some work. She's still doing the Cam work.
• 57:41
  And we see Clay climb in and he watches her sitting at her
• 57:45
  computer and she's like thanking people for the tips and whatnot.
• 57:48
  And then he goes up and stabs her in the head.
• 57:51
  Except actually it's a blow up doll that she said out there,
• 57:54
  which I have a few questions about the logistics of this.
• 57:58
  Did she have a recording of her voice thanking people such as
• 58:02
  Dusty Taint Dangler? I have a theory that she may
• 58:06
  have taken an old show that she did and started playing that and
• 58:11
  had a Word file on her computer that just says gotcha, gotcha.
• 58:15
  Yeah. Also there was a moment whenever
• 58:18
  I saw this where he stabbed the blow up doll that I thought part
• 58:22
  of this is like another bag of oranges still where she's been a
• 58:25
  blow up doll this entire movie. Oh my God, that would have been
• 58:28
  fucking hilarious. Yeah, like he just like he this
• 58:31
  has been in the killer's head and he's just been killing like
• 58:34
  inanimate objects. And then he finally gets the.
• 58:36
  Blow up doll. The reverse of that, that famous
• 58:39
  YouTube short of the the guy who runs over the mannequin and it's
• 58:45
  just like mannequins all over the town.
• 58:47
  Yeah, he's freaking out and he's fighting them and he's killing
• 58:49
  them. And then we discovered that it's
• 58:51
  been real people the whole the whole time, Dude.
• 58:52
  Maybe that's but it's like the reverse of it.
• 58:54
  Maybe we should make. This.
• 58:55
  We should make it. We should make it.
• 58:57
  Yeah, we'll make it. OK baby, are we doing this?
• 58:59
  We're doing this. Oh my God, it's it's getting
• 59:00
  done. Anyways, she cuts off his head
• 59:03
  with her chainsaw, which is her present.
• 59:05
  That was her present? Yeah, Yeah.
• 59:07
  Thank God she got away because I think out of all the ways to
• 59:09
  die, chainsaws freaked me out. She got the best present.
• 59:13
  Yeah, honestly. Like if I'm gifted a chainsaw.
• 59:15
  And hers actually should new. It did, yeah.
• 59:18
  She was the only one that got like a tetanus free power tool.
• 59:22
  Maybe she was special, Maybe, who knows?
• 59:25
  Anyway, that's it. Yeah, that's how the movie ends.
• 59:28
  Yeah. So, All right, cool.
• 59:31
  What do you rate this thing? I think I will bump it to a 6.5.
• 59:35
  Cool. OK, I think 7 is still
• 59:38
  appropriate for this. OK, so our average went up to
• 59:41
  6.75, which I think is good. I think, yeah, if we just had
• 59:45
  slightly tighter editing, I think this would definitely bump
• 59:47
  it up to like A7, maybe even a 7.5 for me.
• 59:50
  I think so too. I think it would really benefit
• 59:52
  from another pass at that, but honestly just from the resources
• 59:58
  they had, this is a really well made movie.
• 1:00:01
  I feel like I like this movie a lot.
• 1:00:03
  Yeah, I want to check out his other work because if this is
• 1:00:07
  the type of stuff he's put now I want, I want to consume more of
• 1:00:10
  what he makes. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:00:12
  OK, So who did you relate to? Oh Olivia, I would be so fucking
• 1:00:16
  frustrated sitting there trying to host a party.
• 1:00:19
  Keep Secret Santa going. Like guys, come on, follow the
• 1:00:22
  rules. Let's keep this neat and
• 1:00:23
  orderly. I'm not super fun at parties
• 1:00:25
  but. OK, who do I relate to?
• 1:00:36
  I'll say the professor, because sometimes I have a hard time
• 1:00:40
  relating to new people. OK, I have a tough time
• 1:00:43
  integrating myself into other circles.
• 1:00:46
  And you were just saying last night that you no longer relate
• 1:00:49
  to kids when you were trying to figure out presents for our
• 1:00:51
  nephews. I was just trying.
• 1:00:53
  I was putting myself in his feet and I'm like, I can't imagine,
• 1:00:57
  like trying to be friends with freshly graduated college kids.
• 1:01:02
  Like, I can't. Like what do I relate about?
• 1:01:04
  Yeah. They don't like, what do I talk
• 1:01:07
  about? I like it's it's finally
• 1:01:10
  happened. I'm at that point now where I'm
• 1:01:11
  like shit, like I, I'm out of touch.
• 1:01:14
  Yeah, we're we're in a new phase of our life.
• 1:01:18
  I can talk to them maybe about like the the usefulness of
• 1:01:22
  firefokers. So skibbity toilet.
• 1:01:27
  I really know what that is. I've heard people talk about it,
• 1:01:30
  but like people apparently it's great.
• 1:01:32
  So don't ask me any follow up questions, but Skivity toilet,
• 1:01:35
  yeah. I'm not going to be that person.
• 1:01:39
  OK, let's see. Dream sequel.
• 1:01:42
  Do we? Do we do scouts?
• 1:01:44
  Favorite part? We usually do dream sequel
• 1:01:47
  first. OK, well, a dream sequel then,
• 1:01:50
  all right. I mean, what if?
• 1:02:06
  She's like, what if she becomes a killer now?
• 1:02:09
  Yeah, I was gonna say, what if she becomes like kind of twisted
• 1:02:12
  from this experience and it's kind of like what we were
• 1:02:15
  saying, like she can't tell the difference between real people
• 1:02:18
  and like mannequins or blow up dolls and fake things and.
• 1:02:23
  It could be kind of similar to the Cam movie.
• 1:02:27
  I I want it to still be a Christmas movie.
• 1:02:28
  If you started a movie on Christmas, you got to keep it on
• 1:02:31
  Christmas. I'm sorry, like you can't, you
• 1:02:33
  can't switch holidays. You you could progress through
• 1:02:35
  the holidays. So I go to New Year's.
• 1:02:39
  Why not? I don't know.
• 1:02:44
  I guess you could do that same same week or for like time jump.
• 1:02:51
  So like same week as like her killing.
• 1:02:55
  Are we are we like doing an immediate sequel or are we doing
• 1:02:57
  like a one year later do? I say we have like a jump
• 1:03:01
  throughout the whole year like. That's like someone not doing it
• 1:03:07
  too, like, oh, we're getting like summer now.
• 1:03:09
  But no, like I'm thinking more like holiday.
• 1:03:11
  We're like, we see the year, but through the lenses of different
• 1:03:14
  holidays. And maybe it's like a spy versus
• 1:03:16
  spy and it's her and say the old lady killer didn't actually die
• 1:03:21
  that night. If that's what you want, I
• 1:03:26
  wanted to stay around the holidays.
• 1:03:28
  Well then, give me an interesting premise.
• 1:03:30
  An interesting premise. Yeah.
• 1:03:32
  OK, so let's just. I'm gonna.
• 1:03:39
  We're going for phone recommending next word after I
• 1:03:43
  just typed the word mode right here.
• 1:03:45
  I'm just like, gonna be pulling words.
• 1:03:46
  Out yeah cuz we're not editing this so we can't have the.
• 1:03:48
  Dead air we normally have. Where we're trying to come up
• 1:03:50
  with stuff. Stream of conscious sequel pitch
• 1:03:54
  right here, so Nicole opens up her laptop.
• 1:04:00
  You sound like you were doing a one person version of that
• 1:04:03
  improv game where like one person says a word and the next
• 1:04:06
  person says a. Word you got?
• 1:04:07
  It's got to be a whole flow here.
• 1:04:09
  You can't interrupt my flow, OK? Nicole opens up her laptop and
• 1:04:17
  she has another person mention that there is somebody looking
• 1:04:23
  from outside the window. Except this time she turns
• 1:04:28
  around and actually sees somebody and it's a blow up
• 1:04:32
  doll. So she goes outside to
• 1:04:35
  investigate and nobody is there. So she then goes back inside and
• 1:04:43
  sees the blow up doll on her bed with a Christmas present and she
• 1:04:50
  opens up the Christmas present and it's a fruit and it she
• 1:04:59
  looks at the from tag and it's from Olivia and she has a
• 1:05:07
  flashback to when Olivia drank the sex fruit juice.
• 1:05:14
  And now she has to be on the lookout for Olivia out there,
• 1:05:25
  maybe getting revenge for drinking sex juice.
• 1:05:31
  So now she thinks. Stop the premise there because
• 1:05:34
  if you say sex juice, one more. Time leaving.
• 1:05:37
  Olivia is gonna be she's gonna have somebody on the chat as
• 1:05:40
  Olivia, OK, it's gonna have an Olivia type name and then maybe
• 1:05:44
  she has like she has to be like looking over her shoulder.
• 1:05:48
  She thinks somebody's there. Maybe it's like people, like
• 1:05:51
  people in the chat are the names from like her friends that died
• 1:05:54
  that year. So it's like somebody that was
• 1:05:56
  knows of the events that is trying to mock her for like
• 1:05:59
  being around being the sole survivor of that murder.
• 1:06:03
  Maybe it's a copycat killer and they're targeting her.
• 1:06:07
  OK, I like that. I got there.
• 1:06:10
  There we go, we did it. Now, what was Scott's favorite
• 1:06:13
  part of the movie? I would say when the hair dryer
• 1:06:22
  was thrown because it's hot bath, she likes bath time.
• 1:06:27
  She likes being in a bath for one, but she also likes it when
• 1:06:30
  people are in bathrooms taking baths because the heat generated
• 1:06:35
  and also a boy dryer generates heat.
• 1:06:37
  So she liked all of the things cooking right there.
• 1:06:39
  Clothes. But no, obviously her favorite
• 1:06:43
  part is in the very beginning when Jerry gets out of the bath,
• 1:06:46
  and then she could go in there and enjoy the residual heat and
• 1:06:50
  the. Moisture.
• 1:06:51
  Yeah, and see if she had any oils, like body oils in the tub.
• 1:06:56
  Exactly. Yeah, OK, sure, that works.
• 1:06:59
  All right, do you have reviews for us?
• 1:07:03
  I do, I got 2 reviews. If you had said no, I would have
• 1:07:06
  been very upset, Yeah, kind of a whole thing.
• 1:07:08
  Yeah. So with our to be or not to be
• 1:07:11
  as we pull to a positive and a negative since we don't do user
• 1:07:15
  or listener reviews. So we'll start off, do we start
• 1:07:19
  off with the good or the bad? It doesn't matter.
• 1:07:22
  Let's do good first, because that's the first one I have.
• 1:07:24
  That's a 10 out of 10. Great cheesy low budget horror
• 1:07:27
  flick that brings up the grindhouse nostalgia.
• 1:07:31
  I'm always looking to buy new Christmas horror flicks.
• 1:07:33
  I saw the trailer to this on YouTube and was very intrigued.
• 1:07:36
  I watched it today and was pretty pleased with it.
• 1:07:38
  I love the gore and death scenes and the scratchy film look this
• 1:07:41
  movie has the whole time. Like crying house planet terror.
• 1:07:44
  It will really put you in mind of the so bad it's good 1980s
• 1:07:47
  horror slasher movies. It really did remind me of that.
• 1:07:50
  It starts off slow, then gets better.
• 1:07:52
  During the middle of the movie, some college friends get
• 1:07:54
  together for a Christmas party. They each receive a hatchet, an
• 1:07:57
  electric knife, a chainsaw, and other weapons.
• 1:07:59
  Slowly, the mass killer uses these weapons to kill the person
• 1:08:02
  that opened it. The killer has the most
• 1:08:03
  hilarious and random reasoning for killing people I've ever
• 1:08:06
  seen. Hopefully this will become a
• 1:08:08
  cult classic to watch around Christmas.
• 1:08:10
  How you recommend Secret Santa? All right, I think those are all
• 1:08:13
  the same points that we brought up with the episode.
• 1:08:16
  Except we didn't really think that it was.
• 1:08:18
  The killer reveal was super hilarious.
• 1:08:22
  I think that was the only thing I disagree with on here.
• 1:08:24
  I said that I saw how it was meant to be funny.
• 1:08:27
  I could see where they were coming from.
• 1:08:28
  Yeah. It just didn't weigh in for me.
• 1:08:30
  But yeah, I I kind of agree with all, like pretty much everything
• 1:08:33
  that they said that you're right, we did cover all that.
• 1:08:35
  So I guess let's move on over to the bad, OK?
• 1:08:38
  It's a four out of 10 indie Yuletide horrors.
• 1:08:42
  Secret Santa is another in the overcrowded market of indie
• 1:08:46
  horrors with a yuletide setting. This is like the exact opposite
• 1:08:49
  of the last person. Yeah.
• 1:08:51
  This one suffers from typically underwhelming writing and bad
• 1:08:54
  acting, but the rest isn't too bad as genre standards go.
• 1:08:58
  It's one of those wannabe grindhouse productions with fake
• 1:09:01
  print damage, but the 1980s era looking film stock makes it look
• 1:09:05
  pretty good. I also appreciate that the music
• 1:09:07
  is nice and the creepy, oh, nice and creepy and provides a neat
• 1:09:11
  bash backdrop for the otherwise overly familiar action.
• 1:09:15
  So here's the thing. There weren't a lot of really
• 1:09:17
  bad reviews for this movie out there because.
• 1:09:19
  It's honestly it's a pretty solid movie.
• 1:09:22
  It just made another pass with the editing.
• 1:09:24
  Yeah, I agree. And if it was bad, it was like a
• 1:09:26
  way too long review where people were like rambling about stuff.
• 1:09:29
  But that right there, I feel, you know, some people may not.
• 1:09:34
  They may be too lacking in certain areas for some people's
• 1:09:39
  stays. I don't know If you can
• 1:09:40
  appreciate some good indie horror, I feel like you'd
• 1:09:43
  actually really enjoy this movie.
• 1:09:44
  OK, so that brings. Us to our articular question.
• 1:09:48
  Yeah, to be or not to be, and absolutely, absolutely.
• 1:09:52
  I actually would like to watch this again.
• 1:09:56
  I would buy the DVD from Vinegar Syndrome.
• 1:09:59
  I want to say yeah, like if they if this got a release, I would
• 1:10:02
  buy it for sure. And I would tell at least all of
• 1:10:07
  our friends, because we know their sensibilities.
• 1:10:09
  I would tell them to go watch this.
• 1:10:10
  Our discord chat is like currently like this is the
• 1:10:13
  Christmas movie I'm watching today.
• 1:10:14
  I want to throw this in there and be like you guys need to
• 1:10:16
  watch. This Yeah, Watch this.
• 1:10:18
  We should. Let's do that.
• 1:10:19
  Do it now. We need to have a discord for
• 1:10:20
  our show. No, I don't want to moderate
• 1:10:22
  that. You don't want to.
• 1:10:23
  I don't want. To do that, no.
• 1:10:24
  I just, I don't, I'm not comfortable enough with discord
• 1:10:27
  yet. That's true.
• 1:10:28
  We're very fresh with that, yeah.
• 1:10:30
  I I don't, I don't want to open ourselves up to that.
• 1:10:32
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• 1:10:57
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• 1:10:59
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• 1:11:00
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• 1:11:02
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• 1:11:05
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• 1:11:07
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  another story and we had friends over one time and Talia took my
• 1:12:24
  underwear out and brought it out for everybody to see so.
• 1:12:26
  Well, what happened was it was like he had done laundry and it
• 1:12:30
  was on the brink of being too torn up anyway.
• 1:12:32
  And when it came out of the dryer, he was like, Nope, too
• 1:12:35
  torn. And he went to throw it away and
• 1:12:36
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• 1:12:40
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• 1:12:42
  It's a toy. You just washed it so it's
• 1:12:44
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• 1:12:46
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• 1:12:51
  takes my underwear and they're. Implying that you have sex juice
• 1:12:53
  all over your underwear. OK.
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  I just said it just came out of the.
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  Yeah, yeah. It's it was clean.
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• 1:13:03
  that night and Talia does this thing where she digs through her
• 1:13:06
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• 1:13:07
  And what does she bring? Our friend Travis is a boxer.
• 1:13:10
  Yeah, yeah, that's a good one to end it on.
• 1:13:13
  Everybody all right, We'll see you on Thursday with it's a
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