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- 0:19Speaker 2: Broncos Training camp is officially here, which meets it's time
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- 1:02Speaker 3: Hey, voice, m let's give ourselves around the class. We here,
- 1:06Speaker 3: we've done it.
- 1:07Speaker 4: We made the long director of the summer, and we're
- 1:10Speaker 4: back at Broncos Park.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Yeah, we won't see it for a week and a half,
- 1:13Speaker 3: so I don't I don't want to hear it.
- 1:17Speaker 4: All right, welcome, good to see it, oh Carl being
- 1:21Speaker 4: here for training campus. All brought to you by Ramos
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- 1:27Speaker 5: I haven't seen this many members of Altitude Sports Radio
- 1:31Speaker 5: assembled together in the same spot at the same time.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Jesse, Kevin, Raj, Chris Cole. I'm trying to just figure
- 1:39Speaker 4: out what's well. You should see some of these guys
- 1:42Speaker 4: trying to open up some of the things. I know,
- 1:43Speaker 4: you know what it's like. It's like a monkey in
- 1:45Speaker 4: a football and I don't. I don't. Yeah, it's a
- 1:48Speaker 4: barrel of monkeys. It's it's something. So you know what's
- 1:51Speaker 4: funny is when I first got here, you look at
- 1:54Speaker 4: this brand new facility that's on the practice field now,
- 1:58Speaker 4: and I thought to myself, it reminds me when you
- 2:01Speaker 4: go to like a community pool and you look at
- 2:04Speaker 4: the house that's behind the community pool that has its
- 2:06Speaker 4: own pool that's better than the community pool. I feel
- 2:09Speaker 4: like I'm being judged by everybody that's inside that building.
- 2:12Speaker 4: It just feels like the amount of dollars that sit
- 2:14Speaker 4: inside that building are judging me for being close to
- 2:17Speaker 4: their property, right, you know what I mean. But it
- 2:19Speaker 4: is gorgeous. Man, that's cool over there.
- 2:22Speaker 3: This's gotta be like a no trespassing sign someplace. Hey, hey, hey, hey,
- 2:26Speaker 3: stay off the turn.
- 2:26Speaker 5: So the fields are lined and the goalposts are up,
- 2:31Speaker 5: and the fields now are running east west. They'll switch
- 2:34Speaker 5: that up, they always do.
- 2:36Speaker 4: Uh.
- 2:37Speaker 5: What you see to the right of you here, Brett
- 2:39Speaker 5: to the east section of the facility is the old facility,
- 2:43Speaker 5: and that is gonna that is coming down. They're gonna
- 2:45Speaker 5: blast that sucker. That's gonna be the new hill for
- 2:48Speaker 5: the fans to sit.
- 2:49Speaker 4: On next year.
- 2:50Speaker 3: Yeah, that's got dynamite inside it already. It's just it's
- 2:52Speaker 3: just waiting. I want to be here to do that
- 2:54Speaker 3: black button. Yeah, I've heard that's that's That little lever
- 2:59Speaker 3: is just ornamental.
- 3:00Speaker 4: It is nowadays. My father in law, my father in
- 3:03Speaker 4: law used to be a dynamiter.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding. Yeah, no, it used to be a
- 3:06Speaker 3: real thing. That's how you send the electric current down
- 3:07Speaker 3: the lines to blow it up. And now it's all
- 3:09Speaker 3: just they turned the little thing.
- 3:11Speaker 4: It's crazy.
- 3:12Speaker 3: The guy with a computer going he's pressing the button
- 3:13Speaker 3: the same time you're turning the thing.
- 3:15Speaker 4: I went with him once. He blasted a hole for
- 3:17Speaker 4: a swimming pool. It is crazy. It is nuts.
- 3:22Speaker 5: Well he depends where he did it in Austin, Texas,
- 3:24Speaker 5: where it's really hard rock, so they couldn't.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Have a blast. That'd be awesome. I want a swimming
- 3:29Speaker 4: pool blow up my backyard.
- 3:33Speaker 3: It's like that guy in England. He poured all that
- 3:36Speaker 3: stuff down in the ground to kill what the answer
- 3:39Speaker 3: their pulls or whatever, and he throws a match on
- 3:41Speaker 3: it and his whole yard blows up, including him.
- 3:44Speaker 4: It was awesome. The I don't know if you guys
- 3:46Speaker 4: saw this last weekend when that Jackson coven won the
- 3:50Speaker 4: three M tournament. They gave him the big check at
- 3:53Speaker 4: the end of it so he could take it, and
- 3:55Speaker 4: he wanted to keep it, and they're like, you can't
- 3:56Speaker 4: keep it. I'm with him.
- 3:57Speaker 3: I'm like, give me the if it's if it means
- 4:00Speaker 3: that's totally great to keep it and put it in
- 4:01Speaker 3: my base.
- 4:02Speaker 4: Now.
- 4:03Speaker 5: I think that's cooler than the actual check to all right, fellas, that.
- 4:09Speaker 4: Uh fellas.
- 4:09Speaker 5: Today I saw a piece of video that the Broncos released,
- 4:13Speaker 5: because you know, the Broncos have excess obviously the better
- 4:15Speaker 5: video than we do. Did you see the pass from
- 4:18Speaker 5: bow Nicks to Jalen Waddle where you one handed it
- 4:22Speaker 5: with his right hand? Of course we did totally unnecessarily
- 4:25Speaker 5: by the way. Wow, it was necessary for me because
- 4:27Speaker 5: it made me happy to see.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Wow.
- 4:31Speaker 5: Dude, yeah wow. And I know it's just a training
- 4:34Speaker 5: camp play, but my goodness, is that cool? But isn't
- 4:38Speaker 5: that what you want to see this time of year.
- 4:40Speaker 5: This year is about the fun highlights and it's about
- 4:42Speaker 5: all that stuff, like and he's going to be I mean,
- 4:47Speaker 5: is there any doubt he's the story of training camp
- 4:49Speaker 5: heading into this He's this story, sure.
- 4:51Speaker 3: I mean, he's the big off season acquisition. He's supposed
- 4:55Speaker 3: to make this offense more dynamic. If they utilize him
- 4:58Speaker 3: the way that we think they're going to utiliz him,
- 5:00Speaker 3: that should come to fruition. So yeah, I think a
- 5:02Speaker 3: lot of people are sort of curious about what he's
- 5:04Speaker 3: going to look like and really, honestly, how quickly the
- 5:07Speaker 3: chemistry between he and his quarterback can build up, because
- 5:09Speaker 3: that's going.
- 5:10Speaker 4: To be important. I think there's like if you get
- 5:13Speaker 4: and I don't know when this is gonna happen, but
- 5:14Speaker 4: NFL Network's going to be here one day because they
- 5:16Speaker 4: make the trip to every single camp this time of year.
- 5:20Speaker 4: The first thing they're going to talk about is Jalen Model.
- 5:22Speaker 4: And for good reason, because the Broncos they've acquired something
- 5:26Speaker 4: that I've been here since twenty nineteen, they've never had it.
- 5:29Speaker 4: They've never had a guy like him before on offense.
- 5:32Speaker 4: That is absolutely someone that would terrify defensive coordinator, because
- 5:37Speaker 4: if I don't have this guy locked in every single snap,
- 5:41Speaker 4: he's gonna burn us for a big one.
- 5:42Speaker 5: Well, what I've noticed about him more than anything. I mean,
- 5:43Speaker 5: he's a small guy, but he runs with such fluidity.
- 5:47Speaker 5: He makes running look easy, which for some of us
- 5:50Speaker 5: it's not right. Yeah, he makes it look easy. And
- 5:54Speaker 5: we'll see, we'll see how they use them in this offense.
- 5:56Speaker 5: I think I heard you and Raj talking about which
- 6:00Speaker 5: receiver will get the most catches this year. I disagree
- 6:02Speaker 5: with both of you. I still think it's going to
- 6:04Speaker 5: be Courtland Sutton. I do because I think it's the
- 6:06Speaker 5: easy outlet. To be fair, I said targets and not catches. Okay,
- 6:09Speaker 5: well either way, targets take catches. I still believe Courtland
- 6:13Speaker 5: Sutton will be the horse to this offense. Doesn't mean
- 6:16Speaker 5: that Jalen Wattle won't be productive. It just means that
- 6:18Speaker 5: he's going to get some explosive plays.
- 6:20Speaker 4: So the reason I would go to the Wattle route
- 6:24Speaker 4: is this. I think it's a lot easier to get
- 6:28Speaker 4: him easy catches. And what I mean by that is
- 6:31Speaker 4: you run waddle on a crossing route just to get
- 6:33Speaker 4: him full speed in an open space.
- 6:35Speaker 3: Well, that's a little dump off pass. Sutton's not going
- 6:37Speaker 3: to be that kind of guy.
- 6:38Speaker 4: It's a lot of you know, beat my man one
- 6:40Speaker 4: on one opportunities, and he's still gonna get plenty. Don't
- 6:43Speaker 4: get me wrong. I just planned to guess.
- 6:44Speaker 5: I just think when you see a six foot five
- 6:46Speaker 5: guy posting up versus a guy my size, it's much
- 6:49Speaker 5: easier to see that big guy if you're a quarterback size.
- 6:51Speaker 4: That's all. Yeah. My question is like how they utilize
- 6:56Speaker 4: Jalen Waddle. You know, it's it's weird to say this
- 7:00Speaker 4: because they played together, but sort of tyree killish, can
- 7:05Speaker 4: you do something like that? Well, of course you're gonna
- 7:07Speaker 4: take some deep shots and use his speed, but can
- 7:09Speaker 4: you just get them in motion? Can you get them
- 7:12Speaker 4: crossing across the line of scrimmage and try and beat
- 7:14Speaker 4: somebody with pure speed like a linebacker to an edge?
- 7:16Speaker 4: Can we wait to find out? Well?
- 7:18Speaker 3: I also combine that with Evan Ingram and the way
- 7:22Speaker 3: that you need to utilize him, and they'll put him
- 7:24Speaker 3: in different spots. Right now's your opportunity to be as
- 7:27Speaker 3: creative as you want to be with this offense, as
- 7:30Speaker 3: creative as you can switch it up, make these decoordinators
- 7:35Speaker 3: really have to think about the heck they're doing because
- 7:38Speaker 3: now you have weapons that you can pick and choose from.
- 7:41Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to it. What's crazy to me
- 7:44Speaker 4: is maybe the biggest thing that's going to have an impact,
- 7:49Speaker 4: especially for the Broncos offense this year, is something we
- 7:52Speaker 4: will have no idea about until the first week of
- 7:55Speaker 4: the season, which is how Davis Webb is gonna call
- 7:58Speaker 4: a game. Because we're all talking about how you use things.
- 8:01Speaker 4: You aren't gonna glean a lot of that stuff.
- 8:03Speaker 3: From training camp. You won't even you won't even glean
- 8:06Speaker 3: that from preseason. Please please don't pretend you will either.
- 8:09Speaker 3: That's the thing.
- 8:10Speaker 4: Know what the offense is gonna look like now, we have.
- 8:12Speaker 5: No idea, We have no idea. I mean, you're sot
- 8:15Speaker 5: right in the preseason. The ultimate goal of the preseason
- 8:18Speaker 5: is to mask what you're gonna do.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Yeah and possible yes, healthy and not get hurt again.
- 8:24Speaker 3: These guys are going down like flies. It's blown my mind,
- 8:27Speaker 3: but yeah, just just stay healthy.
- 8:30Speaker 4: Get to week one intact. You know.
- 8:33Speaker 3: One of the things that as we head into our
- 8:36Speaker 3: day one of Broncos training camp is.
- 8:40Speaker 4: For years. We get here and we'd i'd say, convince
- 8:46Speaker 4: ourselves or attempt to convince ourselves as why the Broncos
- 8:49Speaker 4: could be good all the years of well most if
- 8:52Speaker 4: Teddy Bridgewater doesn't turn the ball over, then you can
- 8:56Speaker 4: stay in games and hopefully win like ten of them
- 8:58Speaker 4: and make a wild card spot. Or if Drew Locke
- 9:01Speaker 4: improves this offseason, the Broncos could be in the face
- 9:05Speaker 4: Look me in the face. That's a scary thing. Look
- 9:08Speaker 4: me square in the face. Ye ride in my face.
- 9:12Speaker 3: Did you really believe any of the crap you were
- 9:14Speaker 3: spewing seven years ago?
- 9:16Speaker 4: What do you mean?
- 9:16Speaker 3: I was spewing about what just spew about Tandy Bridgewater
- 9:20Speaker 3: and dar But this is exactly this is what you do.
- 9:24Speaker 3: You you want to find reasons to believe in your
- 9:27Speaker 3: football team, even when the most obvious thing is they
- 9:29Speaker 3: probably aren't going to be very good. Here's what's different, dude,
- 9:31Speaker 3: I did. I did the poison thing. I said, give
- 9:33Speaker 3: me something to believe in. You know what they did
- 9:34Speaker 3: for the longest time, gave me Jackson. Okay, but most
- 9:37Speaker 3: hang on, hang on, and now now they're giving me something.
- 9:39Speaker 3: The point is, there's no convincing yourself this year. The
- 9:43Speaker 3: Broncos are going to be good. They're going to be good.
- 9:46Speaker 3: It's just a matter of how can you can you
- 9:48Speaker 3: reach the same spot you did last year or improve
- 9:51Speaker 3: on that.
- 9:52Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:53Speaker 5: Well, fourteen wins, as we've all mentioned before, is a
- 9:57Speaker 5: ridiculous number. Yeah, and with this sc to arrive at
- 10:01Speaker 5: fourteen wins, to me, that would be beyond expectations. I
- 10:05Speaker 5: think make the playoffs again and make a run in
- 10:08Speaker 5: the playoffs again is a reasonable expectation. There are some
- 10:12Speaker 5: who think, well, it's super Bowl or bust. I never
- 10:14Speaker 5: feel that way because I know so many things can
- 10:16Speaker 5: go wrong, so many things turn left or right. I think,
- 10:19Speaker 5: be competitive and be a contender.
- 10:21Speaker 4: Is that fair? That's fair? Is that fair?
- 10:23Speaker 3: I mean nothing, There's nothing anybody who goes into the
- 10:26Speaker 3: season saying super Bowl or bust. I mean, I just
- 10:28Speaker 3: think that's unreasonable. Well, what I think, VIC is inside
- 10:31Speaker 3: that new facility over there where everybody's parking underground and
- 10:34Speaker 3: then going into their plush you're an old take a
- 10:37Speaker 3: little wiz and whatnot. I think everybody thinks the same
- 10:39Speaker 3: kind of thing. I think they should be thinking the
- 10:42Speaker 3: same kind of thing, which is why again, I go
- 10:43Speaker 3: back to Sean Payton reiterating this, the emphasis on these
- 10:48Speaker 3: close games and these come from behinds that we've got
- 10:51Speaker 3: to we've got to be better. So they all believe
- 10:53Speaker 3: that they are exactly what you just described, a ultra
- 10:57Speaker 3: competitive team and a contender. Let the Chips fallwarth they may.
- 11:01Speaker 3: You got to play the games.
- 11:02Speaker 4: Would you consider it a disappointment if they didn't win
- 11:04Speaker 4: the division?
- 11:05Speaker 3: No, okay, I don't think I would either, because I'm
- 11:08Speaker 3: I'm leaving some leeway there for one of the other teams,
- 11:11Speaker 3: well two of the other three teams to be somebody.
- 11:15Speaker 4: Maybe they won't be, but maybe they will.
- 11:16Speaker 5: I I mean, for me, disappointment is it's hard to
- 11:20Speaker 5: fathom what disappointment looks like until you see it unfold.
- 11:23Speaker 5: Were you disappointed the way the season ended last year?
- 11:25Speaker 5: Of course, but you can also reason it. You're missing
- 11:28Speaker 5: your starting quarterback, you had a snow squall come through.
- 11:32Speaker 4: There are things that happened.
- 11:33Speaker 5: I'm not sitting here losing sleep and crying over it,
- 11:36Speaker 5: because I know that had they gone to the Super
- 11:38Speaker 5: Bowl with that squad, it had been a tough sledding
- 11:40Speaker 5: against Seattle. Don't know what when you cry. You cried
- 11:43Speaker 5: because bo Nicks left the game after the divisional round.
- 11:46Speaker 4: Yeah. I would also say that last year, even losing
- 11:52Speaker 4: the way you did stunk, but you were so ahead
- 11:56Speaker 4: of schedule, like fourteen wins, win, the division gets the
- 12:00Speaker 4: championship game, host to the ac AFC Championship. Just say
- 12:03Speaker 4: what it was unless it was a surprise, a gigantic surprise. Yeah,
- 12:08Speaker 4: So how do you follow a surprise here? And that's
- 12:11Speaker 4: that's what's tough. And when you mentioned like expectations and
- 12:14Speaker 4: things like that, it is it's tough to put a
- 12:17Speaker 4: real number on it. I do think that.
- 12:23Speaker 3: You gotta get back to the playoffs and win at
- 12:25Speaker 3: least a game, like at least that's a bare minimum
- 12:28Speaker 3: thing because when you look, man, you're in the club. Now,
- 12:32Speaker 3: this is the great part about being here, is that
- 12:34Speaker 3: when you're in the club, you leave yourself open to
- 12:36Speaker 3: massive disappointment. We've seen that over and over again the
- 12:39Speaker 3: last couple of years with the Abs and the Nuggets.
- 12:41Speaker 3: And like most the Nuggets were the best regular season
- 12:44Speaker 3: team in the league.
- 12:45Speaker 4: They cruised through the first two rounds and then they
- 12:47Speaker 4: got swept. Sure, none of what happened before that mattered
- 12:49Speaker 4: because you were so pissed at the result at the
- 12:51Speaker 4: very end. But that's what comes with the expectations of
- 12:54Speaker 4: being a championship contending team. That the Broncos are in.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Now, so they're they're swimming in the same pool now,
- 12:59Speaker 3: and I would say right now, New England.
- 13:01Speaker 4: Obviously those people they think the same thing we are.
- 13:04Speaker 3: Maybe last year was all house money with Drake may right, like,
- 13:06Speaker 3: oh my goodness, and we went to the Super Bowl.
- 13:08Speaker 3: We got you know, smoked, but we got there. So
- 13:11Speaker 3: the Broncos are in the same boudepigue as the Pats.
- 13:14Speaker 4: But these other guys that have been the Jaguars may
- 13:16Speaker 4: be there and so on.
- 13:17Speaker 3: But you look at Buffalo and you know Baltimore is
- 13:20Speaker 3: going to be back, and you know perhaps since he
- 13:23Speaker 3: will be, KC will be. These are the ones that
- 13:25Speaker 3: expect to be there. I want to swim, I want
- 13:27Speaker 3: to swim in the expect to be there all the time,
- 13:31Speaker 3: expect to make a run all the time.
- 13:33Speaker 4: Pond, that's the pawn I wanted to live in.
- 13:35Speaker 5: Guys already some numbers that have emerged. Parker Gabriel or
- 13:38Speaker 5: Boy from the Denver Post has some data some numbers
- 13:42Speaker 5: on Ben Powers. We knew he took a pay cut.
- 13:45Speaker 5: That's a pretty massive pay cut he was he was
- 13:48Speaker 5: at twelve point four million and now he's down to
- 13:52Speaker 5: one year six million with five guaranteed.
- 13:54Speaker 4: I mean he took half. He got half a haircut there, dude,
- 13:58Speaker 4: he got buzz cut there.
- 14:00Speaker 3: He's not doing that out of the goodness of his heart.
- 14:03Speaker 3: I think that he saw if I'm going to be
- 14:05Speaker 3: in a battle with Alex Palcewski during this.
- 14:07Speaker 4: I would like to have my cap number.
- 14:10Speaker 5: Because he probably thought yes because it was a non
- 14:13Speaker 5: guaranteed contract.
- 14:14Speaker 4: Yeah, so if you're right, you're totally right.
- 14:16Speaker 5: At the same time, man, in football, football is unlike
- 14:20Speaker 5: the other sports, Like I'm used to deals at basketball
- 14:23Speaker 5: where guys walk in and they're guaranteed deals no matter
- 14:26Speaker 5: what right like you can do you can do whatever
- 14:28Speaker 5: the hell you want. It's a guaranteed deal. And hockey
- 14:30Speaker 5: it's a guaranteed deal. You guaranteed deal. But man, in football,
- 14:34Speaker 5: these guys are ruthless.
- 14:35Speaker 3: If you ain't producing or there's any fear that you
- 14:39Speaker 3: may lose your starting job, you are going to reschedule.
- 14:43Speaker 5: You're gonna reset your salary to make sure you make
- 14:46Speaker 5: the team. Yeah, and that's where football's got you. That's
- 14:48Speaker 5: where the NFL has these guys. And I don't know
- 14:51Speaker 5: if you feel feel bad is the wrong term, but
- 14:54Speaker 5: you have so many players victed. It has to be
- 14:56Speaker 5: that way. It has to be that way.
- 14:58Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. That's it has to be. Yeah, you
- 15:02Speaker 4: couldn't guarantee everything. No, you could not do that.
- 15:05Speaker 3: But that's where But that's again, that's where the bonus
- 15:07Speaker 3: comes in. That's you're guarantee. And let me tell you, Brett,
- 15:11Speaker 3: you know what, you know, what's five million bucks guaranteed.
- 15:15Speaker 4: It's better than no million bucks guaranteed. I can promise
- 15:17Speaker 4: you that.
- 15:19Speaker 3: I'll just give you an example. Ben Simmons, the basketball
- 15:23Speaker 3: player Ben Simmons, Correct, where does he play now? Since
- 15:25Speaker 3: twenty twenty?
- 15:26Speaker 4: Hang on, does he even play anymore? He's out of
- 15:29Speaker 4: the league. He is a professional fisherman. He actually just
- 15:31Speaker 4: won a fishing time.
- 15:32Speaker 3: He's not fit, he's fishing. Yes, there's no there's no
- 15:36Speaker 3: way you go from to fishing.
- 15:40Speaker 4: Here's I want you to listen to this. Though.
- 15:41Speaker 3: In twenty twenty, he played fifty eight games. In twenty
- 15:45Speaker 3: twenty one, he played no games twenty twenty two, forty two,
- 15:48Speaker 3: twenty three he played fifteen, twenty four he played thirty
- 15:51Speaker 3: three and in twenty five, so no, in twenty four
- 15:54Speaker 3: he played I'm sorry fifty one.
- 15:57Speaker 4: That is the that is the Jeff Buzzdilic guy. And
- 16:00Speaker 4: he made thirty point five thirty two, thirty five, thirty
- 16:04Speaker 4: seven and forty million. That's when.
- 16:06Speaker 3: That's when you win the lottery and quit your job.
- 16:08Speaker 3: That's what it is. He won the lottery and he
- 16:10Speaker 3: quit his job.
- 16:11Speaker 4: Uh three oh five, oh four, oh nine, two five,
- 16:14Speaker 4: Still a lot to get to from day one of
- 16:15Speaker 4: Broncos camp. Back after this all right, back out here
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- 16:30Speaker 5: For those of you listening, you might want to take
- 16:33Speaker 5: time at some point today to give it a look
- 16:35Speaker 5: on Twitch YouTube or Altitude tv because our setup is
- 16:38Speaker 5: sweet and you're right, moj We've come a long way.
- 16:41Speaker 5: I remember the days when we came out here with
- 16:43Speaker 5: a table and a couple folding chairs that said, have
- 16:46Speaker 5: at it.
- 16:46Speaker 4: This is nice.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Go crazy. Oh, by the way, here's a walkie talkie. Okay, thanks, Yeah,
- 16:51Speaker 3: this looks pretty dark.
- 16:52Speaker 4: Good.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Hey, Training camp here at Dell Valley's a tradition like
- 16:56Speaker 3: no other. Can I explain a little bit? As we
- 16:58Speaker 3: get rocket and rolling here this morning, Day one? It
- 17:02Speaker 3: never fails because where we park bred up on the hill,
- 17:04Speaker 3: we gotta walk down and what do we have to do?
- 17:07Speaker 4: Play frogger? We got across an intersection. Yeah, it never
- 17:11Speaker 4: ever fails.
- 17:12Speaker 3: Every year I almost get smoked by somebody turning right
- 17:16Speaker 3: at the light when I'm on this side right. Last year,
- 17:20Speaker 3: remember it, clearly it was a lady in a white
- 17:22Speaker 3: BMW and then some lady like in a tan mini van.
- 17:26Speaker 3: Already this year a red Chevy SUV almost blew me up.
- 17:32Speaker 4: Dude, minivans are mean.
- 17:33Speaker 5: I don't know about you guys, but when you drive
- 17:35Speaker 5: the highways some of those mini vans.
- 17:37Speaker 4: Yeah, they're ruthless. Yeah.
- 17:39Speaker 3: So I've already had my first near death experience of
- 17:42Speaker 3: training Camp twenty twenty six.
- 17:45Speaker 4: So I'm involved. I'm in, I'm in, I'm here.
- 17:47Speaker 3: I don't know how this always happens to you. I
- 17:49Speaker 3: not once have been almost hit by a car I
- 17:51Speaker 3: don't know how it happens either, but I'm trying to walk,
- 17:54Speaker 3: you know, toward this way toward, but they are They're
- 17:56Speaker 3: looking to the left, see if any cars are coming.
- 17:58Speaker 3: They're not paying attention to me on the and I
- 18:00Speaker 3: got to jump out of the way to save my life.
- 18:02Speaker 4: You've never been hit by a car once in your life.
- 18:04Speaker 5: I got hit by a car and a bike off
- 18:06Speaker 5: a twentieth in Wadsworth Land. It on the hood. I
- 18:09Speaker 5: don't bike.
- 18:10Speaker 4: Well, that's true.
- 18:12Speaker 5: Can I make a statement real quick here before we
- 18:14Speaker 5: move on. We are live at Broncos' training camp. We
- 18:17Speaker 5: got a lot of training camp activity.
- 18:18Speaker 4: Come in your way.
- 18:19Speaker 5: You guys know I'm a cyclist, so I could speak
- 18:22Speaker 5: from this side of the room. I bike right yesterday
- 18:27Speaker 5: we're driving and traffic's not going anywhere, and we're like.
- 18:30Speaker 4: What's going on? Is there anything worse? And I'm speaking
- 18:34Speaker 4: to you fellow cyclists.
- 18:36Speaker 5: Then the dudes who refuse to move off the center
- 18:40Speaker 5: of the road and move over and yield to traffic
- 18:43Speaker 5: and believe that they have the right to that way
- 18:47Speaker 5: as much as the cars. You do not have the
- 18:50Speaker 5: right of way there. You are a bike, you go
- 18:53Speaker 5: much slower, you.
- 18:54Speaker 4: Are not as heavy and you It just makes me laugh,
- 19:01Speaker 4: you know what that is? It really ticks me off.
- 19:03Speaker 4: When we did the show from Sanctuary, they had construction
- 19:06Speaker 4: going on that little that little drive up there. There
- 19:08Speaker 4: was a guy that was biking in between all the
- 19:11Speaker 4: construction stuff. Yes, I couldn't get around him. So he
- 19:14Speaker 4: decides he's gonna pull to the side of the cones,
- 19:17Speaker 4: but still inside the cones, and he waves me on,
- 19:19Speaker 4: I go.
- 19:20Speaker 3: I can't get around you. And he was waving aggressively.
- 19:24Speaker 3: He was at me, like, go to the side.
- 19:27Speaker 4: So here.
- 19:27Speaker 5: My rule of thumb when i'm you know, and I
- 19:30Speaker 5: bike a lot is if I see cars coming up,
- 19:32Speaker 5: I hug that white line on the right.
- 19:35Speaker 4: I hug it like your bike. You should be able
- 19:37Speaker 4: to ride a white line. You can't. There's something wrong
- 19:39Speaker 4: with you. You hug the white line. The middle of
- 19:41Speaker 4: the roaders.
- 19:42Speaker 3: It's not that big a deal. You're right, you know what,
- 19:43Speaker 3: you know what it is though, the middle of the roaders.
- 19:45Speaker 3: Less lest thought on this. They're entitled that's an ego trip. Yes, an,
- 19:50Speaker 3: that's an absolute hundred ego trip. And I'm gonna call
- 19:53Speaker 3: each of you out every single time. You are my
- 19:55Speaker 3: fellow cyclist. You give us a bad name. You are
- 19:58Speaker 3: the reason we are by a lot of people in cars.
- 20:02Speaker 4: You. I do hate cyclists, so that's it. I don't
- 20:04Speaker 4: hate cyclists who stay in the bike line. The bike
- 20:06Speaker 4: lane is fine. You're fine over there. That's fine with me.
- 20:11Speaker 4: Can I tell you something else as we head into camp,
- 20:14Speaker 4: because you brought this up that Ben Powers takes this
- 20:16Speaker 4: pay cut and he goes, what'd you say? Twelve million
- 20:19Speaker 4: to six right? Is else? It is? Again? I think
- 20:22Speaker 4: that's at least a little bit of an admission of
- 20:25Speaker 4: I know I'm going to be in somewhat of a
- 20:27Speaker 4: battle here for my position, and I don't want my
- 20:29Speaker 4: CAP number to be the thing that holds me back.
- 20:33Speaker 4: I do think what's interesting, and you can tell me
- 20:37Speaker 4: if you think this is boring, because I do get
- 20:39Speaker 4: caught up in the minutia of camp. It's one of
- 20:41Speaker 4: my favorite things. With all the tight ends that are here.
- 20:45Speaker 4: I looked up the contracts of guys like Lucas Scroll
- 20:47Speaker 4: and Nate Atkins, who have been on this roster for
- 20:48Speaker 4: the last couple of years. They combined, they're guaranteed money
- 20:52Speaker 4: is four hundred thousand dollars. Those are tryouts, those are
- 20:55Speaker 4: camps contracts, And we've heard leg we'll talk about a
- 20:59Speaker 4: guy like Caleble Owner Justin. Joe Lee and Dallon Bentley
- 21:02Speaker 4: were two draft picks, Joey being a fifth rounder. My
- 21:06Speaker 4: guess is that room is going to be at least
- 21:07Speaker 4: fifty percent different. And I don't know where they're gonna
- 21:10Speaker 4: carry their numbers at, you know, but Raj did bring
- 21:13Speaker 4: up something that's a good point. Are they gonna roll
- 21:16Speaker 4: with another full back again? Because if they bring Adam
- 21:19Speaker 4: Prentice and he stays on the roster, I mean, is
- 21:23Speaker 4: it though with Davis Webb. Let's say let's say he's there.
- 21:28Speaker 3: Okay, let's say and by the way, you want to
- 21:30Speaker 3: qualify him as sort of an h back or just
- 21:32Speaker 3: full on full back, however you want to categorize him.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Nate Atkins or Apprentice prctice. Prentice is straight full back.
- 21:38Speaker 3: Okay, But we're gonna we're gonna ump him in with
- 21:40Speaker 3: the because that spot is not a running back spot, right,
- 21:44Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna keep your running backs. That spot essentially,
- 21:47Speaker 3: in my mind, is a backup, tight end spot. That's
- 21:50Speaker 3: the way I look at it. The fullback in today's
- 21:52Speaker 3: national football not like Howard Griffith, who you had a
- 21:55Speaker 3: designated fullback spot, right, Vic.
- 21:57Speaker 4: Remember how Howard and and this is more of a
- 22:00Speaker 4: hybrid spot. Correct.
- 22:01Speaker 3: But you've got seven guys already, so throw Prentice in there.
- 22:04Speaker 3: Now you're talking eight.
- 22:05Speaker 4: Dudes and eventually Taysom Hill I have already said, is gonna
- 22:08Speaker 4: be okay. So let's let's just say eight and a
- 22:10Speaker 4: half dudes. How's that? So you're gonna have to cut
- 22:13Speaker 4: that down to four? Right? Yeah? I mean you gotta,
- 22:17Speaker 4: you gotta have, you gotta more than have that room.
- 22:20Speaker 3: Essentially, I guess every roster spot is so valuable today.
- 22:25Speaker 3: Do you want to carry an extra ol alignment? Do
- 22:26Speaker 3: you want to you know, carry an extra tight end?
- 22:28Speaker 3: What do you what is it you wanted the extra
- 22:29Speaker 3: wide on? How do you look at the makeup of
- 22:32Speaker 3: of the numbers. This is gonna be a hell of
- 22:35Speaker 3: a battle. So when you're talking about Camp Minutia, yeah,
- 22:37Speaker 3: who's doing what?
- 22:38Speaker 4: I like that? I love the minuschev camp. And one
- 22:42Speaker 4: thing that's gonna happen. Do we know when this is
- 22:44Speaker 4: going down? By the way, because I saw the video yesterday.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Sean Payton when he took that FaceTime from Drew Brees
- 22:50Speaker 4: and and one of the rare.
- 22:51Speaker 3: Times had an emotional Sean Payton by the way, Yeah,
- 22:54Speaker 3: that happened at a golf tournament earlier this summer.
- 22:57Speaker 4: Okay, but they released a video now and he's gonna
- 22:59Speaker 4: be you know, a speaker at his Hall of Fame induction, yes,
- 23:02Speaker 4: which means he's going to miss one day of camp.
- 23:05Speaker 4: I think they said one practice. Sounds about right. I
- 23:07Speaker 4: think it's it's tomorrow, isn't it is that when the
- 23:10Speaker 4: Hall of Fame weekend is, yeah, tomorrow, it could be
- 23:12Speaker 4: it the Hall of Fame game is isn't the Hall
- 23:14Speaker 4: of No no, no, no, no, no no.
- 23:16Speaker 5: It's next weekend? Okay, next weekend? Yeah, yeah, the Hall
- 23:19Speaker 5: of Fame weekend. We've we've been there several times.
- 23:22Speaker 3: We're doing it.
- 23:22Speaker 4: We have the game on altitude. That's awesome.
- 23:24Speaker 5: The Broncos have played in it before. It's a fun
- 23:26Speaker 5: week it really is.
- 23:27Speaker 4: The next Saturday next Yeah.
- 23:31Speaker 5: Those inductions by the way, and if you've ever been
- 23:34Speaker 5: to a Hall of Fame induction, bro, you think Easter
- 23:37Speaker 5: mass is long?
- 23:39Speaker 4: That thing goes all day.
- 23:41Speaker 3: What year was it where they had like twelve guys.
- 23:43Speaker 3: It was the COVID year. They had a double up.
- 23:45Speaker 5: That was that was that was That was long. I
- 23:48Speaker 5: mean Jesse went that was the Payton and we literally
- 23:50Speaker 5: sat there like we're at the Vatican for eight hours, been.
- 23:55Speaker 3: There, done that? What's what was the year where it
- 23:57Speaker 3: was obviously Kurt Warner, but he was last and everybody
- 24:01Speaker 3: was gone. Remember they had so many dudes and he's
- 24:04Speaker 3: just talking to like a sparse crowd because Jerry Jones
- 24:07Speaker 3: had droned on forever and he got the scrugie on
- 24:10Speaker 3: that one man.
- 24:11Speaker 4: Kurt Warner got the scrugie. I think it's pretty cool
- 24:14Speaker 4: that that Sean Payton was asked to do it.
- 24:17Speaker 5: And I think I think listening the piece of humanity
- 24:22Speaker 5: and do you do you have it?
- 24:23Speaker 4: Now?
- 24:23Speaker 5: Can we play the exchange between Sean Payton and Drew
- 24:27Speaker 5: Brees when he made the phone call?
- 24:28Speaker 4: And clearly he was made for television.
- 24:30Speaker 5: They're probably doing a little documentary, you know, NFL Films
- 24:33Speaker 5: does goes, Hey, welcome to the Hall of Fame stuff.
- 24:35Speaker 4: What's my big guy that used to do that?
- 24:37Speaker 5: Yeah Baker, Yeah, he's no longer David Baker and the game.
- 24:45Speaker 4: And what you continue to do, for it.
- 24:48Speaker 5: Was captured and it was really cool, and I think
- 24:51Speaker 5: it gives you a behind the scenes look at Sean
- 24:54Speaker 5: Payton the man, the human and not Sean Payton the machine,
- 24:58Speaker 5: right because when we see him, he's just out here
- 25:01Speaker 5: doing Sean Payton like things, but a little piece of
- 25:04Speaker 5: humanity where he tears up, clearly tears up, gets emotional.
- 25:07Speaker 5: He knows what it means to Drew Brees and what
- 25:09Speaker 5: it means to him to be asked to do this.
- 25:11Speaker 5: So let's listen to that moment and then also Nelly
- 25:14Speaker 5: his reaction yesterday practice, because you know, Sean Payton wasn't
- 25:17Speaker 5: supposed to speak to the media yesterday. He volunteered himself
- 25:20Speaker 5: because he understood that probably ought to talk about that
- 25:23Speaker 5: moment and what it meant. So I'd love to hear both.
- 25:25Speaker 5: Let's start with Sean Payton being asked by Drew Brees
- 25:28Speaker 5: to rep him at the Hall of Fame.
- 25:30Speaker 4: I'm honest to god, I can't believe he just did that.
- 25:33Speaker 6: And and yeah, absolutely man, and uh oh we were listen,
- 25:43Speaker 6: We've done enough of this, like all of a sudden,
- 25:47Speaker 6: it's awesome.
- 25:50Speaker 4: I love you too, appreciate you I he couldn't speak guys,
- 26:01Speaker 4: he couldn't get it out. He was so overwhelmed with emotion.
- 26:04Speaker 4: Can can Nelly do me a favor? Can you play
- 26:07Speaker 4: that oh sound that he makes and do it side
- 26:10Speaker 4: by side with Vics? Because I think they're really similar people.
- 26:14Speaker 5: Well, we're both emotional men, different tone, we're both very
- 26:18Speaker 5: emotional human beings. And I think that piece of humanity
- 26:22Speaker 5: from Sean Payton is as cool as I've seen from
- 26:25Speaker 5: him in a long time. And that's all people want,
- 26:27Speaker 5: show me you're a human.
- 26:29Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, in look, I think that for anybody, And
- 26:36Speaker 4: this happens a lot whenever you get a big time
- 26:40Speaker 4: athlete in all time or whether it's Drew Brees, whether
- 26:43Speaker 4: it's Jokic, whether it's whoever. People just think that those
- 26:47Speaker 4: guys were gonna be that no matter what. And I
- 26:49Speaker 4: don't think the value of a coach that nurtures that
- 26:53Speaker 4: talent in a way that allows them to blossom. I
- 26:56Speaker 4: don't think they get enough credit for it. Yeah, and
- 26:58Speaker 4: so Drew Brees is always seen as this, Well, Drew
- 27:00Speaker 4: was always gonna be awesome. I was like, he played
- 27:02Speaker 4: four years in San Diego. No, he was not Drew brees.
- 27:04Speaker 4: Then it's a combination. Yeah, exactly right.
- 27:07Speaker 5: Somebody on the text line writes in twelve forty one,
- 27:09Speaker 5: how many relative tos will we get during that Hall
- 27:11Speaker 5: of Fame speech? So the way it works now, it's
- 27:14Speaker 5: no longer the person helping induct the presenter no longer.
- 27:19Speaker 4: Has a speech.
- 27:20Speaker 5: They shut that off because they were so long. So
- 27:22Speaker 5: it's just a video and the presenter.
- 27:25Speaker 4: Just helps with the jacket. It's a video.
- 27:27Speaker 5: It's no longer like Sean's not going to go up
- 27:29Speaker 5: there and talk that. They got rid of that like
- 27:32Speaker 5: five years ago. So he's going to be there. He's
- 27:34Speaker 5: gonna be there a video of himself doing something, and
- 27:37Speaker 5: then he'll put the jacket on him.
- 27:39Speaker 4: We got to turn that into a drinking game, don't we?
- 27:42Speaker 5: What relative Well, he won't get What I'm saying is
- 27:45Speaker 5: he won't get the opportunity to say relative to well
- 27:48Speaker 5: if there's a video of him speA but I mean
- 27:49Speaker 5: they can edit that out.
- 27:50Speaker 4: It's not going to be a live speech relative to
- 27:54Speaker 4: the production anyway.
- 27:57Speaker 3: So yesterday, so listen, listen, listen to on yesterday, Stevie,
- 28:01Speaker 3: if you have it yesterday him talking, Yeah, Okay, that's
- 28:08Speaker 3: the cat. That's that's the lawyer who yeah, okay, now
- 28:12Speaker 3: that is that is dead on. I have one more
- 28:15Speaker 3: time baiting and the cat guy and the lawyer that
- 28:18Speaker 3: that's pretty good.
- 28:20Speaker 4: That is dead Oh oh, he said thee afterwards, I'm
- 28:32Speaker 4: not a cat? Are we? Are we the only idiots
- 28:39Speaker 4: on the planet to get jokes like that? Are we
- 28:41Speaker 4: the only idiots? Because I would love I would love
- 28:43Speaker 4: to coach did that? That would He's just sitting there
- 28:46Speaker 4: on the other phone, going, yeah, what you do present me?
- 28:49Speaker 4: And he's like, I'm not a cat. Unbelievable, just unbelievable.
- 28:55Speaker 7: Oh okay, stop it. Be professional, but be a professional broadcaster.
- 29:06Speaker 4: It's just like see I for some reason, when I
- 29:11Speaker 4: heard that sound, it clicked something in my brain. I
- 29:13Speaker 4: thought it was you know it was, but it was
- 29:16Speaker 4: the It was Nelly. Nelly's always got the best memory. Yes,
- 29:20Speaker 4: stuff like that. Now, Nelly, just let us know. Whenever
- 29:22Speaker 4: you have Sean Payton actually talking about this right here,
- 29:24Speaker 4: here's Sean Payton yesterday talking about the entire delivery. He
- 29:27Speaker 4: cut me off guard.
- 29:28Speaker 6: I was with a group, we were getting ready to
- 29:30Speaker 6: golf the next day, and I just never I have
- 29:34Speaker 6: a droid phone, so I'd never really gotten a FaceTime.
- 29:36Speaker 3: All right, stop right there, Stop stop stopping, because when
- 29:38Speaker 3: I heard this, he's a droid guy that checks. He's
- 29:43Speaker 3: a droid guy that checks like Kevin Shockey. Felt like
- 29:48Speaker 3: the last holdout. So you know, it's like the last
- 29:50Speaker 3: of the last guy. He's holding out in the cave. Someplay.
- 29:54Speaker 4: Make it known. I have a great I have a
- 29:58Speaker 4: great make it well known that they're droid guys. I
- 30:00Speaker 4: have a great impression of everybody who owns the droid
- 30:03Speaker 4: instead of an Apple. You ready, well a camera quality?
- 30:10Speaker 4: You just want to give all your money to Apple? Yeah,
- 30:14Speaker 4: pretty much.
- 30:14Speaker 5: So I just wanted to stop it there because I
- 30:17Speaker 5: frankly the rest of his commentary.
- 30:19Speaker 4: Storage space alone for the troit.
- 30:24Speaker 5: So I imagine that most of the most Sean Payton,
- 30:27Speaker 5: if you asked him about that, would absolutely respond that
- 30:30Speaker 5: way to Prescott.
- 30:31Speaker 4: In fact, I heard, you're a droid guy. Oh well yeah,
- 30:34Speaker 4: let me tell you why it's let me tell you something.
- 30:36Speaker 4: I don't care relative to the storage space and the camera.
- 30:40Speaker 4: I don't care what happens in camp today. I don't care.
- 30:43Speaker 5: My question I want to ask him after practice is
- 30:46Speaker 5: why are you a droid guy? What is it that
- 30:49Speaker 5: makes you a droid person over Apple? Because that's a
- 30:52Speaker 5: question I have for most. I mean, Kevin's here, Kevin.
- 30:55Speaker 5: Somebody throw a mic on Kevin real quick, somebody throw
- 30:57Speaker 5: a mic on Kevin. I want to ask Kevin Shocky
- 31:00Speaker 5: Durstine just yeah, but I want to hear it from him.
- 31:03Speaker 5: I want to know why he would be a droid guy.
- 31:07Speaker 5: Not that I have anything against droid people. All you
- 31:09Speaker 5: droid people out there, you good humans. You're good people,
- 31:12Speaker 5: you're good kids, you're good kids. I'm just am curious,
- 31:16Speaker 5: So tell us.
- 31:16Speaker 4: I've already given my life to Google. I don't need
- 31:18Speaker 4: to give it to Apple. Also, see, so is it
- 31:21Speaker 4: so far deep? You can't get out everything?
- 31:25Speaker 8: If everything, if someone figures out my Google password, my
- 31:27Speaker 8: life is over.
- 31:29Speaker 4: Everything is in there. So that's it.
- 31:30Speaker 8: It's just it's just easy to keep going. Yes, you know,
- 31:33Speaker 8: the camera Crawdy, the stored space.
- 31:36Speaker 4: What about price? What about price?
- 31:38Speaker 8: I'm but see, here's the thing I buy, like the
- 31:41Speaker 8: phone that's like three or four years old, okay, because
- 31:44Speaker 8: you can get it from cheaper places and not spend
- 31:46Speaker 8: fifteen hundred dollars.
- 31:47Speaker 4: So I always own my phone. I'm not on like
- 31:49Speaker 4: the plans. This is so uninteresting. No, I just camera
- 31:57Speaker 4: thank you Kevin for so welcome a pleasure.
- 32:00Speaker 5: Well, I mean the difference is the coach of the
- 32:02Speaker 5: Broncos is not buying his own phone. I hardly doubt that.
- 32:06Speaker 5: I guarantee they're giving phones by the team and laptops
- 32:09Speaker 5: and all that stuff. Well, look at old Tony two
- 32:12Speaker 5: phones over here. Well, tony two phones is different. That's
- 32:15Speaker 5: a completely different argument.
- 32:17Speaker 3: Now tony two phones, if you had Adroid and an Apple,
- 32:20Speaker 3: that'd be that'd be a problem because you can't you
- 32:22Speaker 3: can't swim and though you know you can't swim in
- 32:25Speaker 3: it's like swimming in the Great Salt Sea and then
- 32:27Speaker 3: swimming in the just you can't.
- 32:29Speaker 4: Have a little phone surfing turf. Does anybody ever do that?
- 32:32Speaker 4: We've offended some people. I knew we'd offend people. I'm
- 32:35Speaker 4: not trying to be offensive.
- 32:35Speaker 5: I'm just trying to figure out why Golden Garrett rights
- 32:38Speaker 5: in oh an Apple just is incompatible with a lot
- 32:40Speaker 5: of apps and needed for work.
- 32:42Speaker 4: So, I mean, I know we're gonna get those responses
- 32:46Speaker 4: for your app, David rights in.
- 32:50Speaker 3: My app for work and trying to do a Google
- 32:54Speaker 3: spreadsheet on an Apple.
- 32:56Speaker 4: Can't it stupid?
- 32:57Speaker 5: David writes in They're better, they're cheaper, they can repair themselves,
- 33:00Speaker 5: and they play nice with other brand devices.
- 33:02Speaker 4: See. Now here's the difference.
- 33:05Speaker 3: Strike Peo got Tom to be distracted by your worthless.
- 33:08Speaker 4: Here's the difference, droid people. If you ask me, well,
- 33:11Speaker 4: why do you own an Apple? I'd be like, just
- 33:14Speaker 4: just I got it, That's my response.
- 33:16Speaker 3: I don't need to give you some dissertation about eighteen
- 33:19Speaker 3: different features I love about the iPhone. I just I
- 33:22Speaker 3: got an iPhone once and then I kept that, Travis writes,
- 33:24Speaker 3: and I appreciate the ability to customize my phone. I
- 33:27Speaker 3: do not need Apple to choose how my phone works
- 33:29Speaker 3: for me.
- 33:30Speaker 4: I am you know what? Need I my own phone,
- 33:34Speaker 4: my uh, the rest of my life. Just kidding. I
- 33:38Speaker 4: will be indebted by the great man Tim Apple. Yeah,
- 33:43Speaker 4: Tim Apple, mom man, All right, should we finish this?
- 33:45Speaker 4: Should we finish this? Quote? Please go ahead? Finished finish
- 33:49Speaker 4: what he said yesterday?
- 33:50Speaker 6: And yeah it was there was just a lot, you know,
- 33:55Speaker 6: being fifteen years together, and honestly, the thing I remember
- 33:58Speaker 6: talking to him later, you know a lot of times
- 34:01Speaker 6: for for a number of reasons. Those those quarterback head
- 34:07Speaker 6: coach relationships you kind of always take for granted, and
- 34:12Speaker 6: yet sometimes oftentimes they don't end like you'd want them
- 34:16Speaker 6: to end. And I was I was really proud that
- 34:19Speaker 6: it ended the way you know, he wanted it to.
- 34:22Speaker 6: And so you know, I'm excited for him, you know.
- 34:28Speaker 6: And and it was.
- 34:32Speaker 4: You know, as a.
- 34:32Speaker 6: Coach in honor that you know someone would would ask
- 34:34Speaker 6: you to do that.
- 34:35Speaker 5: All right, So he is so right on how these
- 34:38Speaker 5: relationships end. How many stories do we hear of great
- 34:42Speaker 5: I mean, look at Tom Brady and Bill Belgium, Yeah right,
- 34:45Speaker 5: sure about Shanny and Elway at the end of yeah,
- 34:47Speaker 5: you know, but Elway came back around. Elway came back around.
- 34:50Speaker 5: And I remember when Elway gave his Hall of Fame speech.
- 34:54Speaker 5: During the speech, he said, both Reeves and Shanny deserve
- 34:58Speaker 5: to be in the Hall of Fame. So he gave
- 35:00Speaker 5: it up for both coaches. But there are a lot
- 35:02Speaker 5: of those relationships that become irreparable for whatever reason. You're
- 35:06Speaker 5: too close, you're too tired, I don't know, I don't
- 35:07Speaker 5: know what it is. So a lot more to get
- 35:10Speaker 5: to here. Three oh three, five oh four oh nine
- 35:12Speaker 5: two five is one of our droid users. Travis just
- 35:14Speaker 5: sends us the bird on the text line.
- 35:17Speaker 3: They probably deserve that, travels deserve it. He did it
- 35:20Speaker 3: through his foot? Is the droid? Did they have the
- 35:22Speaker 3: same better?
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- 35:58Speaker 4: just say for the record, I love Taylor Swift. Okay,
- 36:02Speaker 4: I don't need anything else. Is great?
- 36:05Speaker 3: My god, this is I mean, this is honestly, dude.
- 36:07Speaker 3: This is like fighting with Greece all over again. You
- 36:10Speaker 3: don't realize how many Greeks want a piece of your
- 36:12Speaker 3: butt until you talk about Greece. You don't realize how
- 36:15Speaker 3: many androids.
- 36:17Speaker 4: Kevin said, there's just dozens of us.
- 36:20Speaker 3: Dozens, So there's something that that vic you sent us yesterday,
- 36:26Speaker 3: And I don't mean this as a negative.
- 36:31Speaker 4: I don't you something no or pejorative. Spencer Jones has
- 36:36Speaker 4: a lot to say for somebody who makes this million
- 36:39Speaker 4: dollars a year in the NBA. I think it's great.
- 36:41Speaker 4: I do too. I think I think he's insightful.
- 36:43Speaker 5: I think it's I think the transparency that Spencer Jones
- 36:47Speaker 5: is giving basketball fans on how the process works is great. Now,
- 36:51Speaker 5: but you would agree the Nuggets may not like it,
- 36:53Speaker 5: but I think it's great.
- 36:54Speaker 4: You would agree that. I don't know how many guys
- 36:58Speaker 4: of his I don't. What do you want to come
- 37:00Speaker 4: caliber in the NBA? Well, he was a undrafted player,
- 37:04Speaker 4: two ways, a two way guy, and let's be abundantly
- 37:08Speaker 4: clear here, he didn't feel he was He thought he
- 37:11Speaker 4: was sort of dragged along last year. Sure, so he
- 37:14Speaker 4: wanted his Yes, what is wrong? I don't.
- 37:16Speaker 3: I don't have any issue with the guy getting his
- 37:19Speaker 3: as long as it's fair.
- 37:21Speaker 4: As long as it's fair, and he got his, I
- 37:24Speaker 4: honestly think for the role he's going to play on
- 37:27Speaker 4: this team, six million dollars a year is a great
- 37:29Speaker 4: deal for the Nuggets too. He's a rotational player who
- 37:32Speaker 4: can defend and hit threes? What more do you want? Yeah?
- 37:35Speaker 4: Now can can he? Can? He play better in occasions? Yeah?
- 37:38Speaker 5: But essentially last year, guys, he was a rookie, right,
- 37:40Speaker 5: I mean that was his first real season of NBA
- 37:43Speaker 5: basketball and all of a sudden, you're guarding Shay Gilgess
- 37:46Speaker 5: Alexander in the closing seconds of a game.
- 37:48Speaker 4: I know.
- 37:49Speaker 3: So what did he say yesterday? What did you What
- 37:53Speaker 3: did you want?
- 37:53Speaker 4: Uh? What'd you want?
- 37:54Speaker 3: Well?
- 37:55Speaker 4: He was talking about aprons.
- 37:56Speaker 5: He was talking about how the process works, and how
- 37:59Speaker 5: everybody you know hates the second Apron, and and the
- 38:02Speaker 5: way the NBA.
- 38:04Speaker 4: Soft salary cap is set up. It's a soft cap,
- 38:06Speaker 4: it's not a hard cat. Big difference. Just listen to
- 38:08Speaker 4: him expound on that.
- 38:11Speaker 9: I mean it's tough, but like as a player, like
- 38:13Speaker 9: you still want the second aprin because it's better than
- 38:15Speaker 9: a hard cap. You want organizations to be able to
- 38:17Speaker 9: spend as much money as a cancel. As a player
- 38:18Speaker 9: you can, you can get as much money. So, like
- 38:20Speaker 9: I am a fan of the second Apron, you gotta
- 38:22Speaker 9: structure it a little bit differently. The other option was
- 38:24Speaker 9: a hard cap, and we didn't want a hard cap,
- 38:25Speaker 9: because a hard cap is two hundred. Team can only
- 38:27Speaker 9: spend two hundred dollars, you know, for their team. So
- 38:29Speaker 9: if they wanted if they only had fifteen million left
- 38:31Speaker 9: and you know KCP was worth twenty five and they
- 38:33Speaker 9: really wanted them, it wasn't gonn happen. They can only
- 38:35Speaker 9: get him for fifteen with a second apron. Now they're like, look,
- 38:37Speaker 9: I really want them. I'm okay paying extra taxes and
- 38:39Speaker 9: stuff like that to go over. So I look, as
- 38:41Speaker 9: a fan, if you're upset with teams not one to
- 38:43Speaker 9: go over the second apron, then you know that's ownership
- 38:44Speaker 9: not wanting to pay taxes.
- 38:45Speaker 4: So it's more on the more on them than it
- 38:47Speaker 4: is on the league structure. Okay, now half true.
- 38:51Speaker 5: Here's well, here's where I will I will disagree with him.
- 38:54Speaker 5: The aprons are there, but they they are pretty much
- 38:59Speaker 5: treated like hardcap. There's a reason that there's only one
- 39:02Speaker 5: team currently in the second apron and looking to get
- 39:04Speaker 5: out of it because it feels and works and operates
- 39:07Speaker 5: almost like a hard cap. So you can call it
- 39:09Speaker 5: a soft cap. You can say that, but how many people,
- 39:12Speaker 5: how many teams.
- 39:13Speaker 3: Actually live in that space he's he's wrong though, in
- 39:17Speaker 3: the sense of.
- 39:20Speaker 4: The second apron isn't about how much money is your
- 39:23Speaker 4: your owner willing to pay. There are roster construction problems
- 39:28Speaker 4: once you hit the second apron. So he I mean,
- 39:31Speaker 4: well it becomes so he's he's half right. It's not that.
- 39:34Speaker 3: It's not that you just don't want to pay one
- 39:36Speaker 3: hundred and seventy seven million dollars in tax. It's that
- 39:39Speaker 3: it locks. It locks your raws. Yeah, you can't. You can't.
- 39:44Speaker 3: You can't do deals, you can't maneuver, you can't go
- 39:47Speaker 3: get this guy and actually go more into the apron
- 39:49Speaker 3: because you're not allowed to buy the CBA. It it
- 39:52Speaker 3: locks is It locks so many boxes that it makes
- 39:55Speaker 3: it really destructive to try and keep a team together.
- 39:58Speaker 5: Allow me to quibble with you a little bit when
- 40:01Speaker 5: you say it locks up your roster, and not necessarily
- 40:04Speaker 5: if you like your roster and you're willing to pay
- 40:07Speaker 5: deep into the tax to keep your roster, it's perfect.
- 40:10Speaker 4: Now you can't change it. It's changing your roster.
- 40:13Speaker 3: It's where if you get some guy who's hurt mid
- 40:15Speaker 3: season and then you want to go get a vet
- 40:17Speaker 3: off the vet minimum or guy that wasn't market.
- 40:22Speaker 4: I can't.
- 40:23Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but that's where that's where the issues arise.
- 40:27Speaker 5: If you want to pay into the tax, feel free. Hey,
- 40:29Speaker 5: Cleveland paid into the tax last year. Deeply, it didn't
- 40:32Speaker 5: do much. Golden State is paid into the tax for
- 40:35Speaker 5: many years now, hasn't done it much. Phoenix, as we
- 40:39Speaker 5: well know, paid big money in the tax and they
- 40:42Speaker 5: disassembled it way.
- 40:43Speaker 3: Say what you say, what you want about Ishbia though,
- 40:45Speaker 3: here's what he did. He got into the tax and
- 40:48Speaker 3: he looked around and goes, oh, this is cold.
- 40:50Speaker 4: The hell with this? Yeah boom, and he blew it
- 40:52Speaker 4: all up.
- 40:53Speaker 3: And I don't I don't blame these guys because money
- 40:55Speaker 3: is one thing again, and in that regard Spencer Jones's correct,
- 40:59Speaker 3: money is one aspect of it. But the restrictive nature
- 41:02Speaker 3: of these aprons makes it impossible to actually do business
- 41:06Speaker 3: and to be a team that can that can mold
- 41:09Speaker 3: and grow and shift a little bit. It just makes
- 41:13Speaker 3: it very very hard.
- 41:14Speaker 4: Okay, So I tell you this. In listening Spencer Jones
- 41:18Speaker 4: talk about that everything he just said, everything is exactly
- 41:22Speaker 4: why baseball will not happen next year, because that is
- 41:26Speaker 4: going to be exactly what their players say, which is
- 41:29Speaker 4: I think the system's great because I get to make
- 41:31Speaker 4: as much money as I want, and it all depends
- 41:33Speaker 4: on how much an ownership group is will stand like,
- 41:36Speaker 4: that's the entire argument that the MLBPA is gonna have
- 41:40Speaker 4: next season when that CBA ends.
- 41:41Speaker 3: I just read an awesome dissertation about what did I
- 41:45Speaker 3: mention to you that I was so upset about two
- 41:47Speaker 3: days ago? School ball is gonna get moved. And who's
- 41:51Speaker 3: the front runner for school ars It's the Dodgers. Yeah,
- 41:53Speaker 3: and they've already got an all star rotation for crying
- 41:56Speaker 3: out loud, right, and it's great that this This is
- 42:00Speaker 3: the what they're saying now is that if the Dodgers
- 42:02Speaker 3: get SCOOBL, it's the final nail in Baseball's coffin the
- 42:06Speaker 3: way it is right now, it's the final nail because
- 42:08Speaker 3: they're like twenty eight other teams are like, we are
- 42:10Speaker 3: not doing this anymore, No, we're not.
- 42:12Speaker 4: Now. To take this back to Spencer Jones, he is right.
- 42:16Speaker 4: I mean a ownership groups will shy away from these
- 42:22Speaker 4: taxes because that's a lot of money to spend. It's
- 42:25Speaker 4: different if I think they're convinced they're gonna win a title.
- 42:29Speaker 4: I think you're more willing the difficulty, especially with the Nuggets.
- 42:33Speaker 4: Part of this is, if I'm going to spend one
- 42:37Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million dollars in tax money on top
- 42:40Speaker 4: of the cap that I'm already paying for a team
- 42:43Speaker 4: that just got bounced in the first round in six games,
- 42:46Speaker 4: does that seem like a wise decision. No, it does not.
- 42:50Speaker 4: It seems like a very stupid decision. That's the problem, right.
- 42:54Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, by the way, if you get
- 42:56Speaker 3: the payoff of a championship, that's the ultimate goals to
- 42:59Speaker 3: win a title. You get the payoff of the championship,
- 43:02Speaker 3: You're still financially going to lose money. I'm telling you
- 43:05Speaker 3: right now that you're not gonna get that money in
- 43:08Speaker 3: terms of just raw dollars. I don't care if you
- 43:10Speaker 3: want a title, you're not getting that money back.
- 43:12Speaker 4: Well, and here's the other thing too, this I don't
- 43:15Speaker 4: know if you guys saw yesterday, we got another team
- 43:17Speaker 4: that's in the Peyton Watts's in interested category, which is
- 43:21Speaker 4: now the Cleveland Cavaliers. According to Ramona shelburn, I guess
- 43:25Speaker 4: the story is James Harden is delaying signing his contract
- 43:30Speaker 4: because the innuendo, I guess is that he might take
- 43:34Speaker 4: a little bit off the top if they can go
- 43:36Speaker 4: out and get a Peyton wattson ad to their roster.
- 43:38Speaker 4: I don't know, but Cleveland is now I guess involved
- 43:41Speaker 4: in some way with this.
- 43:42Speaker 3: Hey, as we roll on here, well, I guess we'll see.
- 43:47Speaker 3: I'll believe it when I see it. You got a
- 43:49Speaker 3: lot of dogs sniffing around the bottom of the door.
- 43:51Speaker 3: Ain't nobody throwing the contract on the table? Vick, you
- 43:55Speaker 3: said you sent us something from a Ben Denucci guy
- 43:57Speaker 3: that we like very much.
- 43:58Speaker 4: Want to get him back on the pou right. Yeah.
- 44:01Speaker 3: Uh, he's a Bonix guy. He was a big, big
- 44:04Speaker 3: fan of Day number one.
- 44:06Speaker 5: He noticed something that you know, the common eyes just
- 44:09Speaker 5: don't see. I mean, he said, just watching the video,
- 44:13Speaker 5: the ball's coming out of his hands. It's popping out
- 44:16Speaker 5: of his hands, and it's a different type of pass.
- 44:18Speaker 5: He could see the difference.
- 44:20Speaker 3: And he was in that room too, so he, of
- 44:23Speaker 3: all the guys, he knows. I want to get to
- 44:24Speaker 3: some of that, get to what you just said it.
- 44:27Speaker 3: What do you want some of that you just said?
- 44:28Speaker 3: I got more thoughts on this quarterback. I'm starting to start.
- 44:31Speaker 4: To get some of that. Okay, well we can get
- 44:33Speaker 4: some of that. I like all of it. What is
- 44:35Speaker 4: some of that? How much more of that do you want?
- 44:37Speaker 4: You're gonna find out. So we're out here at Broncos Park,
- 44:39Speaker 4: powered by Common Spirit. By the way, one thing I
- 44:41Speaker 4: noticed while we're out here, the Denver Broncos don't have
- 44:44Speaker 4: water restrictions. Their long doesn't.
- 44:47Speaker 3: Look like this isn't exactly swaths of golf courses on
- 44:52Speaker 3: the side of town.
- 44:53Speaker 4: I don't see a lot of brown around here, I guess,
- 44:56Speaker 4: is what I'm saying. So a lot more to get
- 44:58Speaker 4: to from Broncos back after this