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Happy Hour #105: The Man, the Myth, the Viagra (SATC S2, Ep. 8) · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to step
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Speaker 1: I've never told you protection by her radio, and welcome
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Speaker 1: to another episode of our watch party of Sex in
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Speaker 1: the City, where we try to go through every single
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Speaker 1: episode all how many did you say? There is episodes?
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Speaker 1: And then and just like that, I bet we're gonna
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Speaker 1: come back to it because there's did you see the
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Speaker 1: new headlines for this Aiden? Yeah, so Aidan is back.
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Speaker 1: Oh well, I haven't met him. You haven't seen him yet,
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Speaker 1: and people have strong feelings about being teammate in Team
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Speaker 1: Big and then Team Russian. You haven't met the Russian either.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I haven't. I knew. I knew about
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Speaker 1: Aiden even though I haven't watched the show. I knew
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Speaker 1: that there was like a big slash Aiden vide with
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Speaker 1: who carry ended up with. Yes, there was a whole conversation.
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Speaker 1: But we're not there yet. We're still at a Big
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Speaker 1: yeah pretty earlier. Yes we are at season two, episode
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Speaker 1: eight for those who are catching up. But yes, this
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Speaker 1: is a part of our happy Hour slash Thursday throwback
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Speaker 1: because this is a throwback of the nineties series early
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Speaker 1: two thousand's but um, but yes, we are having our
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Speaker 1: watch party. We are still doing the listener participation one
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Speaker 1: at the end of this season with your name. Then.
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Speaker 1: I know y'all are tired of hearing us repeat that
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Speaker 1: because we've been teasing about this, But it is happening, y'all.
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Speaker 1: It is happening, and I think after this we'll have
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Speaker 1: a better we'll be able to schedule these better because
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Speaker 1: we do want to do more than one. But it
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Speaker 1: was just kind of the holidays and then figure out
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Speaker 1: the technology and all the technology. Yes, we're still having
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Speaker 1: a conversation about that because trying to view it together
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Speaker 1: at the same time can't get complicated, especially if you're
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Speaker 1: not a podcaster and you don't know how to do that.
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Speaker 1: It's the whole thing. So we're confident. Christina is amazing
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Speaker 1: and we're confident will work. But just know, like we apologize,
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Speaker 1: it's taken so long, but we promise it is coming.
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Speaker 1: And I think after this we'll have a better system
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Speaker 1: in place. Yes, yes, because we do want guests. We've
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Speaker 1: already had Bridget, We've had producer Christina, we will probably
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Speaker 1: have a friend guest too, and then other people from
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Speaker 1: other shows. We're gonna do things. Things are happening yes,
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Speaker 1: and listening participation as well, because you all seem to
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Speaker 1: really enjoy this. But before we start, as we said,
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Speaker 1: it's kind of a happy hour because of this when
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Speaker 1: you're talking about sex or the city. Yeah, we we
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Speaker 1: kind of make it a girl's night like happy hour moment.
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Speaker 1: So before we start, we're not being sponsored by whatever
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Speaker 1: product we're talking about. I don't think we're saying the
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Speaker 1: name brands, and just in case if we do ever
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Speaker 1: do that, and then that might change, you never know,
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Speaker 1: dynamic advertising, yep. And then also be responsible and whatever
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Speaker 1: you're doing, including the fact that you're listening around children.
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Speaker 1: We are talking about adult content, yeah perhaps and maturely sometimes. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so you know, be aware. But yeah, which is what
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Speaker 1: you said, been known well, you know, we like to
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Speaker 1: give you these peak behind the curtains. Smith and I
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Speaker 1: are currently recording together together from our very fancy, almost
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Speaker 1: falling apart sportscaster desk. Don't judge me and we I
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Speaker 1: think we're going to post a video of it soon. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you need to know what our setup is. True, not
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Speaker 1: right now, because y'all we watched the last one last
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Speaker 1: day and I am flying high, but I do not
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Speaker 1: look good. For video. But so my point being from
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Speaker 1: the last Sex in the City episode we did to
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Speaker 1: this one is the same recording session. So I'm still
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Speaker 1: drinking from the prosecco that you kindly bought, purchased and
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Speaker 1: I poured myself. But you've heard the first one, so
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Speaker 1: I did. I was trying to be nice host, a
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Speaker 1: good host, also drinking the same cheery and prosecco and
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Speaker 1: little bit of a gove um with my bubble water.
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Speaker 1: I always had a bubble of water. Okay, So we're
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Speaker 1: gonna do the wrap up from previous which you got
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Speaker 1: the D minus people was justice, So give us a
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Speaker 1: wrap up. Okay. So I feel like at this point, uh,
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Speaker 1: Carrie and Bigger back together and that's like the main
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Speaker 1: storyline that's happening. After they broke up at the season
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Speaker 1: finale of the first season and they had sort of
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Speaker 1: it wasn't a d t R, but it was what
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Speaker 1: you called it, come to Jesus where she was curious
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Speaker 1: as like too soft word, but she she wanted to
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Speaker 1: know what their relationship means after he kind of put
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Speaker 1: out these signals that he didn't want to be maybe
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Speaker 1: associated with her as a couple publicly as much as
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Speaker 1: she did, and they had to revisit that conversation. We
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Speaker 1: had a lot of you interesting things around marriage with
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Speaker 1: all four of them, like why do you get married?
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Speaker 1: Because Samantha was like, I guess I gotta marry this
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Speaker 1: guy because we had sex. And then Charlotte met this
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Speaker 1: guy and then had sex with him and then was
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Speaker 1: gonna get married with him, and then her father, his
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Speaker 1: father coughed to feel and then Miranda thought she was
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Speaker 1: going to marry this guy or at least date him,
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Speaker 1: and then he married somebody else immediately. So a lot
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Speaker 1: of conversation about marriage and relationships, as per usual. But
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Speaker 1: I still think the main thing that's going on here
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Speaker 1: is like what is happening with Carrie and Big Okay?
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Speaker 1: All right, yes it is. I'm trying to remember, all right,
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Speaker 1: I'm about to tell you the title, and I usually
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Speaker 1: try to say to you, I think we're going to
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Speaker 1: have a big character, a reoccurring character. This one, okay,
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Speaker 1: is either this one of the next one. And I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to remember because it's been a minute because they
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Speaker 1: all blurre together. Because I just watched the marathon running,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we're about to get you're about to
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Speaker 1: get in reduced to a significant character being the plot
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Speaker 1: lines ahead, but the title, for your consideration, The Man,
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Speaker 1: the Myth, the Hiagra. Oh god, So what is your
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Speaker 1: prediction for this episode? What do you think it's about? Rather,
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Speaker 1: I'm so bad at this. Okay. I think that there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a man who's well known for having sex,
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Speaker 1: and then it turns out he has to have viagrady.
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Speaker 1: Is not good. Okay, Okay, that's what I have. Uh yeah, okay, okay, good, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you have it. But but yes, I
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Speaker 1: am almost positive we're about to meet a significant character
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Speaker 1: in this one, aid, no, but it's like that. Also,
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Speaker 1: we're going to have a cameo of an unwelcome guest.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that. You think it is Donald Trump?
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Speaker 1: Oh no? So yeah, here we go Episode eight. Lets
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Speaker 1: get started, Carrie, this is the Gangster I was telling
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Speaker 1: you about. No, no, no, so many ideas about Italians immediately, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: to our Italian listeners, we don't hold it that. We're
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Speaker 1: so sorry. I think the first time I went to
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Speaker 1: New York is I went to a small Italian restaurant.
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Speaker 1: I looked exactly like this, yeah, and that's when I
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Speaker 1: had my food gasm. Oh really. So we have a
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Speaker 1: restaurant here called Ninos and that has this aesthetic. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and it's like he's been around for years and people
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Speaker 1: talk about that as best Italian in Atlanta, and I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty sure it's the old school Italian style. The waiters
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Speaker 1: are all older. That's um. But here we need to
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Speaker 1: have a significant moment because Carrie is introduced by Big
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Speaker 1: two friends quote unquote as his girlfriend, and she's like,
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Speaker 1: you've never called me your girlfriend before that title. Actually
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Speaker 1: I remember the exact moment my partner and he knew
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Speaker 1: the exact moment when he first referred to me as girlfriend,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, excuse me, why is that such
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Speaker 1: a significance the title is. It's also interesting in our
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Speaker 1: new like era because me and my excusive not fight,
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Speaker 1: but he'd kind of be like, you've never said anything
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Speaker 1: on Facebook that you're didn't change your status? Like I
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Speaker 1: hate Facebook, so like I'm not going to do that.
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Speaker 1: The labels and one time he I feel bad about
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Speaker 1: the still but he asked me like, can I introduce
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Speaker 1: you as my girlfriend to my friends? And I started
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Speaker 1: to crying reaction ego. That's an interesting reaction, but it
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Speaker 1: does feel like it it's heavy, it's well even to
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Speaker 1: this day, like and we've kind of talked about this
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Speaker 1: and it comes back into the queer space. But this
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Speaker 1: level of like being called girlfriend at my age feels
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Speaker 1: really childish um an age, Like it doesn't age well
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Speaker 1: to me. So it's not because I want to be married.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be. The idea of being called
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Speaker 1: wife either really kind of like makes me have a
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Speaker 1: panic attack. But like partner, I use it, and I
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Speaker 1: know people will get like really into deep discussions about
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Speaker 1: this was made for queer relationships, because queer relationships you
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Speaker 1: couldn't say that, So that's the best way to do
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Speaker 1: that for them. Now we're are we appropriating that from
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Speaker 1: the queer community. But I'm like, but I feel too
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Speaker 1: old because it it's not just he's my boyfriend, right,
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Speaker 1: it just sounds immature, right, it sounds very high school.
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Speaker 1: And if that's cool, that's the thing that you resonate with,
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Speaker 1: that's totally fine. But I get you. It does sound
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Speaker 1: like it sounds like not as serious. Yeah, yeah, because
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Speaker 1: we're more than just high school relationship. Like it's not
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Speaker 1: like we we shared bond over all things like if
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Speaker 1: I die, he's getting part of that. If I get
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Speaker 1: murdered suspiciously, just like it was No, it wasn't, but
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Speaker 1: like he's like a beneficiary because they're that. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: His date can't speak right now? Who can I say?
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Speaker 1: Is calling? Now? We're moving on to the really bad
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Speaker 1: stand up comedy. Miranda's on a date and turns out
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Speaker 1: he's married. Yeah, and it was the comedian used it
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Speaker 1: publicly to make a joke, which I've seen many of times,
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Speaker 1: and I hate that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And this is
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Speaker 1: why I B two in comedy industry is important. Yes,
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Speaker 1: because he just said something very friendsive to Miranda's she
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Speaker 1: was trying to leave. I hate that. Yeah, it's not funny,
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Speaker 1: it's not it's not you're just really really killing someone. Wise,
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Speaker 1: Why do you doing this? Because you can't think of
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Speaker 1: any jokes. You're not funny at all. Samantha a Cosmopolitan
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Speaker 1: and Donald Trump, You're right here is the cameo of
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Speaker 1: Evan Donald Trump. They mustn't know. They must have been
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Speaker 1: like they must have been recording in this hotel or
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Speaker 1: near his hotel. Required yeah, to appear in it. That's
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Speaker 1: why he's a home alone too. Yeah, and many beauty.
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Speaker 1: I think I just de financed Mr Trump's new cron
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Speaker 1: checked you owe me a oh, this is all the
12:03
Speaker 1: moment you much should have told him Donald tum is
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Speaker 1: gonna fall bankrupt, so you're not getting your money back.
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Speaker 1: She's been hit on by this very old rich man
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Speaker 1: who just invested in Donald Trump's property whatever project. It
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Speaker 1: is quite strange. This is nowhere near the same level.
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Speaker 1: The first time I went to Dragon Con, this older
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Speaker 1: guy like this really older and I was in college,
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Speaker 1: came up to me and he bought me these drinks
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Speaker 1: and he acted as if, well, okay, this is now
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Speaker 1: we have to go to my hotel room and have sex.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, you bought me like three course lights.
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Speaker 1: And I understand that he's expensive at a hotel, but
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Speaker 1: but go away. Samantha had learned that Ed was single,
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Speaker 1: available and a millionaire many many times over. What's your
12:54
Speaker 1: age ceiling? With men? So they're asking how old would
12:57
Speaker 1: you go? How old would you go for either any
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Speaker 1: of these? You know, I think when I was younger,
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Speaker 1: I would have given you a much wider age gap.
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Speaker 1: But now I'm so like I've seen so many terrible things.
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Speaker 1: And we've talked about this too. I feel strange about
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Speaker 1: it because if you're in consensual relationship and you understand,
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Speaker 1: but to me, there's just so many differences between being
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Speaker 1: like twenty and forty, Like me at twenty versus me
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Speaker 1: now is not the same person, did not understand the
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Speaker 1: same things. So I don't think I would do a
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Speaker 1: massive age gap, right, well, that that's that level of
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Speaker 1: like eight and is significant significant, especially when you're younger,
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Speaker 1: that it really matters, even though now like it wouldn't
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Speaker 1: like forty two not so significant, right, Yeah, I do
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Speaker 1: think it's different than but it's still like maturity. I've
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Speaker 1: seen so many older men, Yeah, who are just I'm like,
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Speaker 1: why do you keep going for the younger women? Thank you, Steve,
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Speaker 1: Thank you Steve. So we are introduced to Steve's that's Steve.
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Speaker 1: This is an introduction of Steve. Steve. I love Steve.
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Speaker 1: We've already talked about and just like that and the
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Speaker 1: disappointments of it, just like that. Um, but obviously he's
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Speaker 1: a significant part of the story. But he is endearing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: on the days they treated him dirty, like I get
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Speaker 1: what they were trying to do. And things fall apart.
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Speaker 1: We talked about this. This happens. You just stop falling
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Speaker 1: in love or you don't realize who you are and
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Speaker 1: you have to define yourself. That's fine, but they did
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Speaker 1: Steve dirty. Yeah, Oh, so Samantha is having fancy dinner
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Speaker 1: with made essentially so she's getting showered with all these diamonds,
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Speaker 1: and the staff like worst. So I never told you this.
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Speaker 1: The old job. When I first graduated from college, I
15:19
Speaker 1: worked at you know this part Department of Family and
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Speaker 1: Children's Services. I was an investigator of child abuse and
15:25
Speaker 1: I did all that. There was a dude who was
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Speaker 1: a therapist. I was early twenties, he was late forties
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Speaker 1: hit on me and I was so stunned. He was
15:37
Speaker 1: a good looking man, but he was significant older, had
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Speaker 1: gone their divorce, had teenage kids who were close to
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Speaker 1: my age. I had talked. I was so shocked because
15:45
Speaker 1: I had never been hit on like that. I was like,
15:46
Speaker 1: what is happening that. I went to a coworker who
15:50
Speaker 1: was closer to his age and I was like, this
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Speaker 1: person hit on me. Do you know anything about him?
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Speaker 1: Is this a thing he does? And she got mad
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Speaker 1: at me because someone her age had been hitting on me,
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Speaker 1: and I think she had seen him, and it turned
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Speaker 1: out he did. He did hurt it on at a
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Speaker 1: younger women, but she didn't know that. Like she talked
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Speaker 1: to someone else about it and they're like, oh, you
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Speaker 1: don't mean to And I didn't know this, but like
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Speaker 1: it was such a significant like I didn't know what
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Speaker 1: to do because I thought, kind of like how we
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Speaker 1: talked about grooming, young children don't know that they're being
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Speaker 1: groom because they feel like they should be thankful that
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Speaker 1: they're being noticed by a man, right, But that's what
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Speaker 1: it was. But it was such a weird reaction that
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Speaker 1: I had from everyone that I felt like a bad person. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I kind of like something you said in a
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Speaker 1: recent episode that kind of stuck with me is like
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Speaker 1: when you're giving a gift and it's about someone else
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Speaker 1: and you said ling and it's so true. And I
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Speaker 1: feel like in this like where he's giving her all
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Speaker 1: these diamonds, he likes to see his money, his things
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Speaker 1: on her. That's kind of an ownership to that well
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Speaker 1: for her to like, No, I found that interesting that
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Speaker 1: the aspect of that. Of course, I didn't go on
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Speaker 1: the date with him because I realized this was happening,
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Speaker 1: and looking back, I was like, that was really inappropriate
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Speaker 1: because he asked me out on my work phone. He
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Speaker 1: didn't have any of my personal information. He called me
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Speaker 1: to ask me out, and I thought we were talking.
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Speaker 1: I was being very kind because I thought we were
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Speaker 1: doing this, and it was shocked me because me, especially
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Speaker 1: out of college, and I'm not I wasn't very you know,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't dating a lot, so to me in my
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Speaker 1: low self esteem. He didn't know. I don't Maybe he did.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I was so like, yeah, almost,
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Speaker 1: I was flattered, but I was worried and scared, and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, what did I do? Like all these things,
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Speaker 1: but I didn't realized. I'm looking back like that was
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Speaker 1: super inappropriate. We were supposed to talk by client. You
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Speaker 1: called me on the phone to talk to me about
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Speaker 1: taking me out, and then he's been hadn't been flirting
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Speaker 1: with me with that. I thought we were just coworkers, right.
17:50
Speaker 1: I think you're an easy lay and I'd like to
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Speaker 1: have sex again. No, it's not like that. Have dinner
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Speaker 1: with me? Why, I don't know, because we're hungry. I
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Speaker 1: can't have dinner with you. I don't even know you.
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Speaker 1: You slept with me. It's a different thing. Sam's run
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Speaker 1: away and bartender Steve has come to trying to take
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Speaker 1: Miranda out, and she said, you slept with me. We
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Speaker 1: don't know each other. Different things. Yeah, that's true. I
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Speaker 1: feel like I have a lot of like really funny
18:28
Speaker 1: round coom stories, even though I'm like not into that.
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Speaker 1: But once I had something like this happened where two
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Speaker 1: guys who were interested in me and I didn't know it.
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Speaker 1: We're like, when are you going to this? Are you
18:39
Speaker 1: going to sing? And all my friends were there and
18:40
Speaker 1: they both showed up. It was the most awkward ye ever.
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Speaker 1: And then they both refused to leave, and I was like,
18:45
Speaker 1: I gotta go home on fire you But if I
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Speaker 1: don't go, I've been out all day, it's gonna rain.
19:04
Speaker 1: But my friends are expecting you. But oh Big is
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Speaker 1: backing up. He promised and he's backing out. He does
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Speaker 1: seem like he constantly does this. Yeah, And by the way,
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Speaker 1: because I definitely have seen it with friends where the
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Speaker 1: guy or the partner keep backing out and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to hang out with it, like it
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Speaker 1: feels offensive because it feels like they're personally don't want
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Speaker 1: to hang out with us, or they don't like us
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Speaker 1: or something. He's hiding something. He's hiding something. Yeah, and like,
19:31
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. If you know I'm not into it,
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Speaker 1: that's not I'm tired. But if you keep doing it,
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Speaker 1: if it's constantly that you just can't come out, like dude,
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Speaker 1: really like your girlfriend or your partner wants to come out,
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Speaker 1: why won't you? And this is important if you care
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Speaker 1: about your friends introducing somebody to the group, that's a
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Speaker 1: big thing. Right, I'm not sure he's coming from work.
19:52
Speaker 1: I didn't have the strength to tell them about my
19:54
Speaker 1: fallen hero, at least not without a cocktail. Oh so
19:58
Speaker 1: she has to explain why fix not there? But here's Steve.
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Speaker 1: I'm bringing the cocktail and if you want to go
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Speaker 1: home with one, Oh, Miranda, no, Wow, everybody is filling awkward.
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Speaker 1: What is this called? There's a there's a term for
20:17
Speaker 1: this when you make a joke that you know is
20:20
Speaker 1: like it's funny, but it's just going to make people mad,
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Speaker 1: like somebody mad passive aggressive, right, I think so it's not.
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Speaker 1: It's different than what we were talking about earlier, where
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Speaker 1: it's just like racist or six. And this is like
20:32
Speaker 1: something where you're like, this is very, very funny, but
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Speaker 1: it's just going to hurt a friend that you know,
20:36
Speaker 1: I'm making fun of yourself a friend she does seem
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Speaker 1: to hostile. This is why I'm like, they really did
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Speaker 1: her dirty, because she's not wrong. Yeah, I think I
20:47
Speaker 1: got I think we got distracted earlier. But I think
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Speaker 1: the conversation has shifted from where Miranda was painted us
20:55
Speaker 1: for the villain of like, Okrrie didn't show up and
20:58
Speaker 1: I'm mad, and she's the villain because she's mad because
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Speaker 1: the hetero romantic relationship is more important, I think, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that shifted, and now the friendship
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Speaker 1: would be more like the thing you should focus on,
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Speaker 1: and she would not be the villain anymore, would not.
21:12
Speaker 1: She would be the hero because of her job and
21:15
Speaker 1: her independence and her ability to see through things. Of
21:17
Speaker 1: course she's too cold, like that's also but that's also
21:20
Speaker 1: true that oftentimes happens with a leading lady not being
21:24
Speaker 1: like overly available, but like being closed off. Now, yes,
21:28
Speaker 1: because you have to be too focused, but then like
21:30
Speaker 1: that's your downfall or whatever. Yea, So we have a
21:55
Speaker 1: big looking like a hero because it showed up, showed
21:59
Speaker 1: up here. Um, and we meet Steve, which is a
22:02
Speaker 1: significant character throughout the entire series. You get a full
22:06
Speaker 1: thumbs up for the Donald Trump. I did feel like
22:10
Speaker 1: I heavily hinted, Like I couldn't not heavily hint because
22:13
Speaker 1: I can't be like it's you're going to be excited.
22:15
Speaker 1: You're not going to be excited. So I'll at least
22:19
Speaker 1: give you two out of five stars. I will let
22:30
Speaker 1: but everything else is real off, real off. There's nobody
22:32
Speaker 1: I technically, Steve did have good sex, but he did
22:34
Speaker 1: not have viagra. Yeah, where was the viagra? The dude,
22:38
Speaker 1: the old man, the reason he went to the back
22:42
Speaker 1: just to get a viagra. Okay, okay, but she ran
22:47
Speaker 1: away before he got that viagra with all the diamonds
22:51
Speaker 1: though she Yeah, I mean she made some money. Um,
22:56
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was the thing. So the myth is
23:00
Speaker 1: obviously the story. The man would be big, I believe,
23:03
Speaker 1: and then the headground would be the old dude. M yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:08
Speaker 1: So this was very much centered on the three of them.
23:11
Speaker 1: Charlotte was kind of in the background for this one,
23:13
Speaker 1: which is surprising. But yeah, so we have Steve coming
23:17
Speaker 1: into the cast now and we have now met adorable
23:20
Speaker 1: bartender Steve m I like Steve Um because I've only
23:26
Speaker 1: seen him in because I have watched and just like that,
23:29
Speaker 1: which is kind of the it's not a reboot, but
23:32
Speaker 1: like the follow up series to Sex and the City,
23:34
Speaker 1: and so that's the only way I've known him. Uh,
23:37
Speaker 1: what usually watch one movie, right, I haven't seen a movie.
23:40
Speaker 1: I've seen like three episodes. Okay, okay, you didn't see
23:44
Speaker 1: the movie. No, I went to go see Oh that's right,
23:50
Speaker 1: my friends to see Friends went to the Night, which
23:54
Speaker 1: is I think pretty telling of who I am. Yeah. Yeah,
23:59
Speaker 1: So here we have all that conversation. This was a
24:01
Speaker 1: little more like up beat episode in kind of that,
24:04
Speaker 1: although I did talk about being hit on by an
24:06
Speaker 1: older man and there's definably wrong with dating older men.
24:09
Speaker 1: But it was very obvious that I was in experienced,
24:13
Speaker 1: Like we were at a workplace, we were like working
24:16
Speaker 1: together for children, like all of those things was so
24:19
Speaker 1: like off putting. And he was probably one of the
24:21
Speaker 1: best therapists that I've seen because he's been in it
24:23
Speaker 1: for a while and it's very gentle with the kids.
24:26
Speaker 1: So that after that was like do I talk to him?
24:29
Speaker 1: And I am an avoidant person, so I'm never talking
24:32
Speaker 1: to you again. But I couldn't because he was one
24:34
Speaker 1: of the best therapists, so I had to use him, right.
24:38
Speaker 1: It was interesting. It's unfortunate. I feel like a lot
24:40
Speaker 1: of the things we've watched from like I don't know,
24:45
Speaker 1: the nineties or eighties, we've had this conversation where it
24:49
Speaker 1: was just so normalized that men would do that at work,
24:52
Speaker 1: and now it wouldn't work, like we were talking about
24:55
Speaker 1: with Bridget Jones's diary, Like that doesn't read us funny
24:58
Speaker 1: anymore because we were finally having these conversations. But for
25:01
Speaker 1: so many of us, that is an experience we've had.
25:04
Speaker 1: I remember once I had a like higher higher up
25:09
Speaker 1: when I was an intern, basically asked me to his
25:13
Speaker 1: home when he had a wife and kids and another
25:17
Speaker 1: employee who I think to this day. She showed up
25:21
Speaker 1: and like diverted the conversation got me out of the situation.
25:24
Speaker 1: But it was just kind of like, yeah, that's how
25:28
Speaker 1: it is. It's understood, and I hate that it's true.
25:32
Speaker 1: We talked about that all the time, Like I love
25:33
Speaker 1: that she saw that I was in a situation got
25:36
Speaker 1: me out of it was like, no, here we go.
25:39
Speaker 1: But I hate that that's a thing. That's the thing
25:41
Speaker 1: that we have to be aware of as for me,
25:45
Speaker 1: And it's not that this happens all the time. It
25:47
Speaker 1: was more of that person instead of telling me be where,
25:51
Speaker 1: was mad at me and yelled at me. And I
25:53
Speaker 1: was like, what is I'm asking for advice because I'm
25:55
Speaker 1: concerned and I don't know what to do right And
25:59
Speaker 1: this is the thing that I because I feel like
26:02
Speaker 1: so many times that happens, and then the woman in
26:04
Speaker 1: question leaves, doesn't give promotion whatever it is because of that,
26:09
Speaker 1: and then everyone's like, well, he's a nice guy and
26:11
Speaker 1: he's good as his job, so he doesn't get any ramifications.
26:15
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I mean that's like one of my
26:17
Speaker 1: thest favorite things is when women are like blaming other
26:20
Speaker 1: women when they should be blaming Do you want to
26:23
Speaker 1: clarify because not that anybody connected to that job to
26:25
Speaker 1: listen to this episode. He was not a coworker technically,
26:28
Speaker 1: he was a contract position with us, so it wasn't
26:31
Speaker 1: like but it was still odd because the way he
26:33
Speaker 1: did it was definitely because we were talking about a
26:36
Speaker 1: case and I could not avoid him. So all of
26:39
Speaker 1: those things were a part of that. And I felt
26:41
Speaker 1: like she felt justified. She felt really justified when she
26:44
Speaker 1: was able to tell me that he got hit on
26:45
Speaker 1: other people too, Like I'm not special. It was really odd.
26:48
Speaker 1: It was really odd, but interaction was very odd. Um,
26:52
Speaker 1: the whole experience was very odd. But yeah, that's the
26:56
Speaker 1: conversation of like who buys into it, who's talking about it,
26:59
Speaker 1: who the allowance to do it, who gets to be
27:02
Speaker 1: able to be comfortable in it, and who gets to
27:03
Speaker 1: burn bridges. That's a whole different conversation. Then, also we
27:07
Speaker 1: talked about the myth what would have modern dame myth
27:11
Speaker 1: for rosby their modern name meth is the Mistress. I
27:16
Speaker 1: feel like this sounds so cynical, and I'm touching an
27:18
Speaker 1: optimistic person, I swear. I feel like the myth is
27:21
Speaker 1: that you can have an equal relations that equal partnership
27:26
Speaker 1: and or the flip if it in the heateronormative relationship,
27:30
Speaker 1: the woman is the one that brings home everything and
27:32
Speaker 1: he's a caretaker, and that it actually works in that flip, yes,
27:37
Speaker 1: but that doesn't exist. Yeah, and he's going to get
27:40
Speaker 1: so much more credit than any stay at home. His
27:44
Speaker 1: wife's gonna be so much more blame, yes, because she's
27:46
Speaker 1: not saying, wow, would you do this to your children?
27:49
Speaker 1: You're doing all these masculating him, even if that's not
27:52
Speaker 1: how he feels. Yeah, exactly, that's my thing. It's like,
27:56
Speaker 1: I hope it never sounds like I don't think people
28:00
Speaker 1: canna have happy, healthy relationships, because I do. But there's
28:03
Speaker 1: so much societal stuff you can't remove. You just can't
28:07
Speaker 1: remove it. Yeah. Maybe the other modern day myth is
28:11
Speaker 1: um having it all. Yes, like that the whole level
28:16
Speaker 1: of you must be all good in all of these
28:19
Speaker 1: and specifically for women, must be good at all of
28:21
Speaker 1: these things. Have the children that are perfect, have the
28:24
Speaker 1: house that is perfect, have the joke that you love,
28:26
Speaker 1: that you're successful in climbing, like and being healthy and
28:30
Speaker 1: also perfect body. Yes, yes, and then it's like not
28:34
Speaker 1: exhausting and soul rushing, rushing at all. I think that's
28:38
Speaker 1: another modern myth that is specific to women in general,
28:41
Speaker 1: that you will have the perfect marriage, that you have
28:43
Speaker 1: the perfect children, family relationship, that everything is beautiful, which
28:47
Speaker 1: oftentimes we know it's not true. But yeah, I think
28:51
Speaker 1: that's another modern myth that gets fed to us often
28:54
Speaker 1: even if that means like you're the perfect house housewife,
28:57
Speaker 1: you're the perfect day at home mom, Like that's the
29:00
Speaker 1: the scenario, which that's kind of been more and more debunked,
29:03
Speaker 1: but it's coming back a lot with the conservative conversation anyway.
29:08
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's part of the modern day
29:10
Speaker 1: myth as well. Maybe, and this is going to be controversial.
29:15
Speaker 1: Modern day myth is the perfectly happy single woman. Interesting
29:20
Speaker 1: because I did I've talked about that before because I
29:22
Speaker 1: think there is a strange thing we've attached to feminism
29:27
Speaker 1: and being single and having sex, yes, like the kind
29:30
Speaker 1: of hook up culture, which I have no problem with.
29:31
Speaker 1: I think it's great if you're consensual, all about it,
29:34
Speaker 1: But we've attached it to happiness feminism this is the best. Yeah,
29:42
Speaker 1: So like I think, like, because don't get me wrong,
29:45
Speaker 1: I still hold to the fact that I would rather
29:47
Speaker 1: be single be miserable in a relationship, and I think
29:50
Speaker 1: that works better because I don't want to settle for
29:53
Speaker 1: a bad relationship. I think it's better to be single.
29:57
Speaker 1: But do we hold to that fact that we are
30:00
Speaker 1: so strongly held to that fact that we have to
30:03
Speaker 1: present ourselves we're fine I'm fine everything. I'm never lonely.
30:07
Speaker 1: I love doing this by myself. I'm gonna go sit
30:08
Speaker 1: at a restaurant by myself. I love it, right, you know,
30:12
Speaker 1: or you can't show weakness. I'm like, I'm only today.
30:14
Speaker 1: It's hard today. Yeah, And that's the thing, is, like
30:18
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's sort of the pendulum swung
30:23
Speaker 1: so hard because we were like, you're demonizing single women
30:26
Speaker 1: in singlehood and we can be totally happy by ourselves,
30:29
Speaker 1: which we can and I am, But that doesn't mean
30:32
Speaker 1: like you don't have days right where you're like, okay,
30:36
Speaker 1: I miss this. And also it doesn't mean that maybe
30:40
Speaker 1: there's some societal gendered difference in relationships, which is why
30:45
Speaker 1: you feel like you can't be in a relationship in
30:47
Speaker 1: the first place. So there's so many things. But I
30:51
Speaker 1: you know, like, as a person of what do we
30:54
Speaker 1: talk about intersectionality, we have to acknowledge that because that's
30:57
Speaker 1: unrealistic to think that you're always going to be okay
31:00
Speaker 1: and that being so independent is okay because sometimes, especially
31:05
Speaker 1: at the housing market, it is hard to be single.
31:08
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, y'all can afford this beautiful home. You
31:11
Speaker 1: have a roommate, you just call him a partner. You
31:13
Speaker 1: may sleep with them, but that's still your roommate. And
31:16
Speaker 1: then people will get looked down on if they have roommates,
31:19
Speaker 1: being like, oh, that's so college and childish. You can't
31:22
Speaker 1: afford your own. You don't afford your own. Some people do,
31:25
Speaker 1: but like typically you have a dual income and that
31:28
Speaker 1: makes a massive amount of difference. Yeah. Yeah, And I
31:33
Speaker 1: think like the whole idea of we've seen so many
31:38
Speaker 1: interesting takes of it recently, but the whole idea of
31:40
Speaker 1: like you're happy all the time. It's a single man,
31:42
Speaker 1: Like you're out, like parting every night, you're not, and
31:47
Speaker 1: that's fine, Like you shouldn't be, in my opinion, if
31:50
Speaker 1: you're happy staying in, stay in. And sometimes it's sad
31:54
Speaker 1: and that's okay. And he said, that's very very like
32:01
Speaker 1: convincing herself as she punched the chair, very passionate about it. Yes,
32:08
Speaker 1: well that's what good friends are for, Samantha. Yes. Well,
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