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Chuck & Buck 6-30 Hour 3: One Series with Gregg Bell... again, Baseball Brunch and we're on the lookout! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 2: to play is at eleven o'clock. And so, yes, the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks One series something we do every June. It's one
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Speaker 2: analyst in town or out of town breaking down one
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Speaker 2: key Syhawk player for one entire interview. We did four
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Speaker 2: full weeks of it, and yet no one chose Leonard Williams,
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Speaker 2: I thought that was unacceptable. So we've extended it by
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Speaker 2: two installments into this week, and to handle it properly,
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Speaker 2: we're bringing in our two big guns, you mellon tomorrow
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Speaker 2: to break down nick Em and Warri and joining us today.
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Speaker 2: You can hear him at ten o'clock every day here
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Speaker 2: on KJR and all through the football season on Chuck
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Speaker 2: and Buck. It's our Seahawks insider Greg Bell to talk
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Speaker 2: some big cat Leonard Williams.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, Greg, Good morning.
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Speaker 2: Can you believe that no one took Leonard Williams?
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Speaker 3: Can you believe that Forrest from the Trees type of deal? Yeah? Yeah,
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Speaker 3: he's a pretty big deal to them, especially Mike McDonald's defense.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's start right there. How big of a deal?
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Speaker 2: Put it in perspective what he's meant to this football
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Speaker 2: team since he put on that Seahawk uniform.
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Speaker 3: Well, he predates, of course McDonald. He got here in
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Speaker 3: the middle of Pete Carroll's last season, and then he's
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Speaker 3: had his two full seasons, the last two with the Seahawks,
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Speaker 3: and they've been as productive as any two back to
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Speaker 3: back seasons he's had in his entire twelve year career.
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Speaker 3: But he represents what McDonald wants to do across the defense, Chuck,
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Speaker 3: and that's multiplicity and a guy that can do multiple
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Speaker 3: roles that an offense doesn't know where he's going to
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Speaker 3: line up from snap to snap. He's a three technique
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Speaker 3: defensive tackle outside the guard. He's a five technique defensive
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Speaker 3: end outside the shoulder of the offensive tackle. He lines
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Speaker 3: up with the nose. He dropped in the coverage and
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Speaker 3: fooled a Hall of Fame quarterback Aaron Rodgers in the
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Speaker 3: Meadowlands a couple of seasons ago as a nose tackle,
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Speaker 3: dropping in the coverage, faking the blitz, intercepting it and
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Speaker 3: returning it ninety two yards for his first career touchdown.
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Speaker 3: So McDonald moves him as a chess piece. He's like
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Speaker 3: the defensive line version of Nicky Manworrey and Devin Witherspoon.
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Speaker 3: Moves him around so the offense doesn't know where he's
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Speaker 3: coming from. And the other thing he does is command
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Speaker 3: double teams. Two thirds of the time last year on
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Speaker 3: pass rush snaps he was double team. That was the
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Speaker 3: fourth most of any interior defensive lineman. So if you're
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Speaker 3: moving him around and the offense is devoting two blockers
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Speaker 3: to that guy, and then when you move him around
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Speaker 3: your defense and the offense has to chase him around
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Speaker 3: the formation, you're dictating to the offense. Leonard Williams allowed
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Speaker 3: on the defensive line allows Mike McDonald to dictate to
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Speaker 3: the offense, which is exactly what he was trying to
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Speaker 3: do when he got here from the Ravens.
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Speaker 2: Greg Bell is with us talking about Leonard Williams and
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Speaker 2: our Seahawks one series, and when he was coming out
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Speaker 2: of college out of USC, I mean there was talk
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Speaker 2: all football season long that he might be the number
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Speaker 2: one overall pick and then he gets taken by the
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Speaker 2: New York Jets that sixth overall, So I mean huge
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Speaker 2: expectations and he's had he had a really good career
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Speaker 2: before becoming a Seahawk. But since he's become a Seahawk,
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Speaker 2: as you said, the best football of his entire career.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know what he was like in New
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Speaker 2: York with the Giants or the Jets who he played
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Speaker 2: with previously, but you can't wipe the smile off of
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Speaker 2: his face right now as a Seahawk. As far as
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Speaker 2: you can tell in your reporting, what do you think
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Speaker 2: being a Seahawk, being a part of this defense with
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald has meant to Leonard Williams.
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Speaker 3: Well. I see Carol talking about him from his USC
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Speaker 3: connections and how much when they played, especially the Giants
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Speaker 3: and a couple of times they played the Jets, how
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Speaker 3: much Leonard Williams just infects his personality in the locker room.
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Speaker 3: And I remember Carol talking about that when he was
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Speaker 3: with the Giants before the Seahawks played them a few times,
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Speaker 3: they'd had their eye on him, and Carol had his
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Speaker 3: eye on John Schneider had their eye on him for
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Speaker 3: a long time. And of course, as you mentioned, he
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Speaker 3: was drafted way too high for the Seahawks to get
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Speaker 3: him top six pick. He's had you could say, a
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame type career. I know he doesn't have
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Speaker 3: a first team All Pro selection, which usually is the
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Speaker 3: way into Canton, or at least the quickest front doorway in,
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Speaker 3: but he's not playing twelve years on a defensive line.
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Speaker 3: Two of his last I know Pro Bowls come as
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Speaker 3: dime a dozen selections these days, but these two of
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Speaker 3: his three career Pro Bowl selections have come in the
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Speaker 3: last two years. He's the father of the He's like
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Speaker 3: the dad of the locker room and the defense. I
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Speaker 3: know that Marcus Lawrence is older, but he's got six kids,
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Speaker 3: so he's too busy being a dad at home. Lawrence
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Speaker 3: is something of a father to everybody else, and he
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Speaker 3: embraces that role. He's a culture center. He's a guy
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Speaker 3: that McDonald leans unheavily on his Veterans' Leadership Committee on
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Speaker 3: deciding team issues and what teams do and for what,
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Speaker 3: when they should travel, how much they should practice, should
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Speaker 3: they take a day off, should it be not in
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Speaker 3: pads today. Leonar Williams is the sounding board guy for that.
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Speaker 3: He's a commanding presence because of his longevity in the
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Speaker 3: league and his excellence and pedigree in the league. Guys
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Speaker 3: listen to him. He has that personality. He's a very
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Speaker 3: integral piece to what McDonald does. McDonald's system, the locker
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Speaker 3: room culture we talk about all the time that the
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Speaker 3: Seahawks say they won the Super Bowl because of it
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Speaker 3: doesn't work unless the players are empowered to be the
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Speaker 3: voice and to lead. Lena Williams is probably the chief,
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Speaker 3: one of the chief leaders of those voices in the
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Speaker 3: locker room. I often don't know what Mike McDonald's defense
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Speaker 3: would look like without him. I'm not sure what the
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Speaker 3: culture would look like without him. And having said that,
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Speaker 3: he turns just turned thirty two, going on thirty three,
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Speaker 3: and he's into his dozen years in the league. His
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Speaker 3: contract ends after this year, has got a void year
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Speaker 3: after the new deal they gave him a couple of
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Speaker 3: years ago. So they have a decision something of a
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Speaker 3: reckoning with him as he gets older. Do you keep
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Speaker 3: them for another go around beyond this year. I think
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Speaker 3: they're gonna see how he holds up. Playing seventy three
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Speaker 3: plus percent of the snaps like you did. Last year,
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Speaker 3: he was the most played defensive lineman, even more than
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Speaker 3: Lawrence and Reed and anybody and Murphy. At his age,
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure he can play seventy three percent of
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Speaker 3: the snaps again this year and still get the same production.
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Speaker 3: That's what they're going to try to do. But I
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Speaker 3: know McDonald as it stands right now, would love to
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Speaker 3: have him as long as he can coach and as
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Speaker 3: long as Williams as willing to play as that important.
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Speaker 2: Do they feel like they have the best tackle combo
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Speaker 2: defensively in the NFL with Williams and.
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Speaker 3: Murphy, Well, yeah, I think so because Williams can play
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Speaker 3: inside and out and allows Murphy to move as well.
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Speaker 3: It's not like they're just pigeonholeding the Here are two
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Speaker 3: interior defensive tackles right now. Murphy gets snaps outside of
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Speaker 3: defensive end as well, And it's not like you're just
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Speaker 3: moving Williams around and he's not productive of He's actually
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Speaker 3: no matter where you put him, he's producing. His last
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Speaker 3: two seasons, he's played thirty three regular season games. He
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Speaker 3: missed one. In the last two seasons, he has twenty
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Speaker 3: five tackles for losses. That's his most in back to
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Speaker 3: back seasons. He has fifty hits on the quarterback in
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Speaker 3: those thirty three games. That's his most of his career
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Speaker 3: in back to back seasons and he's got eighteen sacks
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Speaker 3: in those two seasons, eleven and then seven. You'll take
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Speaker 3: that more from a thirty two year old in his
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Speaker 3: twelfth NFL season. And so again allowing not only is
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Speaker 3: can they move him around? He's a force. They move
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Speaker 3: him around that they have to. The team has the
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Speaker 3: double team. Offense has the double team him, and that
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Speaker 3: frees up Byron Murphy for one on one reps. That
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Speaker 3: frees up Riley Mills, who will have a much bigger
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Speaker 3: role this year. Riley Mills is a real key to
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Speaker 3: Leonard Williams playing less, fewer snaps, less than seventy three
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Speaker 3: percent of the time this year and being more productive.
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Speaker 3: Mills is something like Williams and that he can inside,
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Speaker 3: he can play out. He was largely a defensive end
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Speaker 3: at Notre Dame and the Seahawks have moved him up
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Speaker 3: and down the line like Leonard Williams. How much can
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Speaker 3: Riley Mills in his first full season after that acl
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Speaker 3: tair robbed him of most of his rookie season, how
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Speaker 3: much can he capitalize on that Super Bowl sack and
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Speaker 3: how he was late in the season to help Leonard
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Speaker 3: Williams not have to play seventy three percent of the
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Speaker 3: snaps this year.
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Speaker 2: Our Seahawks inside of Greg Bell is with us from
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Speaker 2: the News Tribune. Of course, you can follow us coverage
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Speaker 2: of the Seahawks Atthewstribune dot com. You can listen to
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Speaker 2: him every day right here on Kjar at ten o'clock,
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Speaker 2: and we need him during the football season almost every
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Speaker 2: day at seven oh five right here on the Chuck
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Speaker 2: and Buck radio program. If you want to follow at
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Speaker 2: g Bell Seattle there on X. I also love the
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Speaker 2: stories Greg about how well Leonard Williams gets along with
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Speaker 2: the offensive lineman, how much he helps Grey's Abel make
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Speaker 2: his transition into the National Football League. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: do realize that they're all part of the same try.
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Speaker 2: But sometimes you will see in sports that pitchers will
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Speaker 2: gravitate toward pitchers, or defensive lineman will gravitate toward defensive lineman.
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Speaker 2: I love that he's an all encompassing leader on this
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Speaker 2: football team. I love the stories about he and trying
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Speaker 2: to make the offensive line better.
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Speaker 3: I've covered seage defensive lineman that fight with offensive lineman Campeah,
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Speaker 3: So yes, it's not a given Leonna Williams does that
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Speaker 3: he and de Marcus Lawrence both pull guys aside, especially
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Speaker 3: the younger players on the offensive line. Says, here's why
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Speaker 3: I'm doing this, and you can see him panami of
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Speaker 3: his pass rush moves to graysabel and training camp last
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Speaker 3: year to try to get 's able to develop a
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Speaker 3: counter to a twelve year Pro Bowl veterans' moves. Yes,
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Speaker 3: and there's a selflessness to that as well. Lena Willims
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Speaker 3: is a full Northwest guy. Now, I mean he went
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Speaker 3: to school and high school in Daytona Beach, Florida, went
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Speaker 3: to USC as you mentioned, of course, but he's bought
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Speaker 3: a house in Newport Hills above the York Training Facility.
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Speaker 3: He and his wife a new baby they just had
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Speaker 3: this offseason. He just went to Spokane this weekend for
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Speaker 3: the first time, Leonard Williams did. He was a judge
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Speaker 3: in the hoop Fest, the Dunk Contest, the three on
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Speaker 3: three festival in the streets of Spokane, and he said
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Speaker 3: he was blown away by Spokane and the fervor for
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Speaker 3: swoop Fest and the people there, and he was leading
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Speaker 3: chance and they hawk chants and he'd never been to
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Speaker 3: eastern Washington, he said. So the point is he is
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Speaker 3: really ingrained in the community and the team and the culture.
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Speaker 3: I can go on and on about the impact he
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Speaker 3: has more than just x'es and o's to what Mike
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Speaker 3: McDonald's trying to set culture wise, And as we've said
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Speaker 3: many times, that culture is why they think they won
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowlina Williams gigantic piece of that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've got a secondary here in Seattle that
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Speaker 2: gets a lot of attention. Nick Emon warri might just
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Speaker 2: be getting started. Witherspoon might become the highest paid cornerback
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Speaker 2: in the National Football League here in the next month
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Speaker 2: or so. So we have arguably the best wide receiver
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Speaker 2: in the game right now. But is there a better
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Speaker 2: room on campus over there and renting than the defensive
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Speaker 2: line group? Is that the strength of the team those
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Speaker 2: guys up front.
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Speaker 3: I think so, because if you don't have what they
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Speaker 3: have and you have to be four deep instead of
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Speaker 3: eight deep, and they're getting to eight, they're not quite
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Speaker 3: there yet. Riley Mills will be a big piece of that.
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Speaker 3: But if you don't have the depth and you don't
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Speaker 3: have the quality up front, teams will just run on you,
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Speaker 3: and then your perceived strength the secondary is not as
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Speaker 3: big a factor. Second, and two and third and one.
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Speaker 3: Your defensive secondary is in a little more trouble than
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Speaker 3: they are in third and eleven. And that's third and
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Speaker 3: elevens are what the defensive line brings them. And I
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Speaker 3: mentioned Williams. The reason he's played more snaps than anybody
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Speaker 3: on the defensive line is he's a run stopper and
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Speaker 3: a pass rusher and they don't want to take him
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Speaker 3: off the field, even at thirty two years old. Yes,
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Speaker 3: to answer your question, DeMarcus Lawrence was a huge piece
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Speaker 3: for them. Now get Dexter Fowler, Dante Fowler. Excuse me.
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Speaker 3: They they're getting older in the defensive line, but they're good.
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Speaker 3: How much can they stay good? Fowler's plus thirty. Lawrence
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Speaker 3: just turned thirty four. Williams is going on his age
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Speaker 3: thirty three season. Like I said, Jared Reid's going to
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Speaker 3: turn thirty three during this season. Chennon wils who suddenly
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Speaker 3: is going to be thirty years old during this season.
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Speaker 3: Can they still get super Bowl level production out of
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Speaker 3: that defensive line into their thirties? You're pushing it. The
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Speaker 3: NFL will tell you that when you start getting in
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Speaker 3: your early thirties, the production goes way down. The price
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Speaker 3: that goes way up, and that's when teams release just
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Speaker 3: so that they don't have diminishing returns. The Seahawks are
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Speaker 3: pushing that diminishing returns, but those signs yet of Leonard
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Speaker 3: Williams on diminishing returns, but they ain't last forever. So
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Speaker 3: can they get another season of productivity out of these
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Speaker 3: guys now that they're pushing mid early thirties like they
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Speaker 3: got last year. That's a huge key to whether the
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Speaker 3: Seahawks defense is number one against it again this year.
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Speaker 2: Is John at all disappointed that the league has become
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Speaker 2: more trade aggressive at the trading deadline because it kind
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Speaker 2: of feels like he's been ahead of the curve on
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Speaker 2: the entire league about making that big, bold move. I
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Speaker 2: mean he's been making it for a while. He's definitely
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Speaker 2: hitting the last three years with Williams and with Jones
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Speaker 2: and then this year with Shaheed. But I mean this
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Speaker 2: goes back to Sheldon Richardson, Jadevian Clowney. I mean, he's
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Speaker 2: been doing this for a long time, and finally the
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Speaker 2: rest of the NFL seems to have woken up like hey, wait, wait,
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Speaker 2: wait wait, you can get pretty good deals for quality
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Speaker 2: veteran players at the trading deadline. Why aren't we making
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Speaker 2: more moves at the trading deadline? John's probably pissed off
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Speaker 2: that they finally figured out what he's doing to help
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Speaker 2: his team mid season.
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Speaker 3: It's a good point they he has more competition now,
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Speaker 3: You're right. What teams have done around the league is
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Speaker 3: doing what Snyder has been doing for sixteen years, and
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Speaker 3: that's holding in reserve space on the salary cap. To
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Speaker 3: do that, when you trade for someone, it's a pro
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Speaker 3: rated rest of his contract for that year. If it's
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Speaker 3: right around the trade deadline the end of October, you're
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Speaker 3: about half a season. You owe half of his salary. Well,
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Speaker 3: you have to have salary cap space to do that,
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Speaker 3: and a lot of teams aren't willing to keep a
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Speaker 3: reserve space because they want to buy up players and
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Speaker 3: have max buying value before the season starts. Snyder's strategy
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Speaker 3: is to been to wait to see what they look
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Speaker 3: like during the season, where their holes are, and then
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Speaker 3: go fill it and Okay, we think we're good here, Oh,
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Speaker 3: we didn't expect to be deficient here, or we might
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Speaker 3: need this piece here. They save money to do that
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Speaker 3: because it costs money to add that on teams did
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Speaker 3: never used to do that. Teams used to be right
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Speaker 3: up against the cap at the end of training camp
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Speaker 3: when their rosters of fifty three were set. Snyder always
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Speaker 3: has extra ruins. Fans are saying, why do we have
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Speaker 3: all those cap space? They don't use it. They use
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Speaker 3: it to try to negotiate for the deal for a
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Speaker 3: guy that other teams can't afford. It's a good point
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Speaker 3: that other teams are catching onto that and the market's
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Speaker 3: you've got a little more competition for Schnyder.
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Speaker 2: And they're going to do it again this year. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: exact same. Well, yeah, it turns out injuries are a
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Speaker 2: big part of football too, so you never know where
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Speaker 2: you might pop up during the course of the season.
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Speaker 2: But my goodness, is he on a roll right now
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Speaker 2: at the trading deadline. That is just and it kind
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Speaker 2: of restarted with Leonard Williams. He kind of in a
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Speaker 2: strange way, Greg, I mean to the acquisition of Leonard
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Speaker 2: Williams seemed to be maybe the first step in building
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Speaker 2: this championship team that we've got right now. Is that
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Speaker 2: crazy to say?
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Speaker 3: No? Not, certainly on the defensive line, which is most
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Speaker 3: coaches will tell you is the start of your defense.
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Speaker 3: If your defensive line is getting run over, you're done.
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Speaker 3: You're not going to do pass rush, You're not going
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Speaker 3: to get coverage in turnovers and interceptions. Leonard Williams has
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Speaker 3: absolutely he's, as I said, the most played defensive lineman
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Speaker 3: they have at age thirty two.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, what do you got playing for ten
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Speaker 2: o'clock today?
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Speaker 3: Well, we have Jim Bowden, the former general manager, major
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Speaker 3: League general manager, has been an MLB and other national analysts.
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Speaker 3: He's going to talk to us about the dynamic of
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Speaker 3: a first time manager and how a GM deals with that,
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Speaker 3: and the analytics piece of course, Visa VI the Mariners
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Speaker 3: and how they've hired Scott's service and Dan Wilson from
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Speaker 3: never having managed before, and what that dynamic is for
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Speaker 3: a general manager, what that relationships like. We'll talk to
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Speaker 3: him at eleven o'clock.
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Speaker 2: HU fascint. Ask him about trade deadline stuff too. He's
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Speaker 2: really good on that, ask him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he nails a lot of those trades and predictions,
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Speaker 3: doesn't he.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty good at it. He's pretty good. All right, Greg,
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Speaker 2: thank you sir. We'll be listening at ten, all right,
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Speaker 2: thank you, Sir, there is Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider.
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Speaker 2: As we've gone a little extended with our Seahawks one
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Speaker 2: series this year. Yeah, we were going to wrap it
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Speaker 2: up on Friday, but man, there was some unfinished business.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad we got to talk about Big Cat for
17:46
Speaker 2: an entire segment. Feel better. I feel better. I two
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Speaker 2: not entirely fulfilled.
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Speaker 4: I feel no. I mean after tomorrow, I think I
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Speaker 4: will be.
17:53
Speaker 2: After tomorrow, we will have closure and we will be
17:55
Speaker 2: able to move on from the Seahawks one series and
17:58
Speaker 2: it will get It will dip into July, by the way,
18:01
Speaker 2: which is a little against the rule.
18:02
Speaker 4: It is, but it's worth it necessary.
18:05
Speaker 2: So yes, we'll have you one tomorrow to talk about
18:08
Speaker 2: Nick emon Warre. Coming up next though, it's Brunch Time
18:10
Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM. Chuck and Ashley
18:15
Speaker 2: with you. That's right, the people that brought you Reckless
18:17
Speaker 2: of Breakfast now bring you the Baseball Brunch on a
18:19
Speaker 2: semi regular basis. It's our recap of the Mariners game
18:23
Speaker 2: from the previous day. We do want a six thirty
18:25
Speaker 2: called Mariner this morning after and that's done every single day.
18:29
Speaker 2: But sometimes you know what that eight o'clock audience at
18:33
Speaker 2: nine o'clock audience like, I can't get up for that,
18:36
Speaker 2: and I'd still like to hear a little bit of
18:38
Speaker 2: a recap of the baseball game. So that's why we
18:41
Speaker 2: provide this service. Welcome to the baseball brunch. It's delicious, Yeah,
18:45
Speaker 2: it really is. Could you smell it? Yeah?
18:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, cooking up right now?
18:48
Speaker 2: Could you pass me maybe some chicken and waffles?
18:51
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, here?
18:51
Speaker 2: Can I throw them? Yeah, you can throw them a frisbee? Yeah, yep,
18:55
Speaker 2: no problem, not the chicken, No, no, sorry, I got cat.
18:59
Speaker 2: You got crusting. All right. Well, today's baseball Brunch is certainly.
19:07
Speaker 2: I mean the stars of the game were George Kirby
19:10
Speaker 2: our pitcher, and Cole Young our second basement. I mean,
19:13
Speaker 2: they were the superstars of this game. George got off
19:18
Speaker 2: to a little bit of a slow start. He allowed
19:20
Speaker 2: to run in the very first inning, another one in
19:21
Speaker 2: the third, and suddenly a struggling Mariners team that is
19:25
Speaker 2: coming off one of its worst losses of the year,
19:27
Speaker 2: coming off three straight series losses, dropped below five hundred
19:32
Speaker 2: for the first time in a while heading into this game,
19:37
Speaker 2: and now you're down two to nothing to one of
19:39
Speaker 2: the worst teams in the world. Man, it just didn't
19:42
Speaker 2: look good. And of all people to melt that ice,
19:45
Speaker 2: it was Young Cole Young with a home run to
19:48
Speaker 2: center field to make it two to one. And then
19:51
Speaker 2: and the very next inning, finally a break for this team.
19:55
Speaker 2: With two outs, Randy A Rose Arena is hit by
19:58
Speaker 2: a pitch. Then an error committed by the angels third
20:02
Speaker 2: baseman put runners not just at first and second, but
20:06
Speaker 2: second and third, and cal Rawley came to the plate
20:10
Speaker 2: and the cash.
20:11
Speaker 1: In on that two out error a little loop and
20:15
Speaker 1: signed down in Randy scorns through coming home. Neither is
20:21
Speaker 1: say at the place tow rye elever Semam Mariners have
20:26
Speaker 1: taken the lead.
20:28
Speaker 2: A two run single for the Dumper made it to
20:31
Speaker 2: three to two. At that point they took the lead
20:34
Speaker 2: for the first time and never looked back. They rolled
20:37
Speaker 2: to a six two victory, thanks in large part to
20:40
Speaker 2: George Kirby, who did not give up another run, ended
20:43
Speaker 2: up going eight strong and actually Ashley walked off of
20:47
Speaker 2: the mound. I mean he was fired up walking off
20:49
Speaker 2: the mound, but then by the time he got to
20:52
Speaker 2: the dugout and the party that was waiting for him
20:55
Speaker 2: George was all smiles.
20:57
Speaker 5: He just looked like a little kid who had just
20:59
Speaker 5: like got his first hit and he just walks in.
21:00
Speaker 5: He's like just a big smile. I mean, just look
21:03
Speaker 5: innocent and happy. And we don't see George that happy
21:07
Speaker 5: that offense.
21:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's a reason why he's nicknamed furious George.
21:10
Speaker 4: He was not furious, yes, oh.
21:12
Speaker 2: No, he was a pagan poop yesterday. So George got
21:15
Speaker 2: the job done. And then offensively, the team was really
21:19
Speaker 2: carried by Cole Young. He was He was perfect at
21:22
Speaker 2: the plate. He had a single the other way, which
21:26
Speaker 2: was a gorgeous piece of hitting. He hit the home
21:29
Speaker 2: run that started the scoring, and then he hit the
21:32
Speaker 2: home run to end the scoring. So three for three,
21:34
Speaker 2: three RBI, two home runs, first multi homer game of
21:38
Speaker 2: Cole Young's career. And here he is after the game.
21:41
Speaker 6: But really good. It was nice to just help the
21:45
Speaker 6: team win today. It's got a state of my approach
21:49
Speaker 6: and I didn't try to do too much. Let's go
21:53
Speaker 6: through your head. The second one keeps going c off
21:58
Speaker 6: his side. You had you hitted that bolt part of
22:01
Speaker 6: the part before still just where you almost in awe
22:05
Speaker 6: inspired by Yeah, I'm just probly I put a good
22:10
Speaker 6: swing on it, got the job done. So yeah, it
22:15
Speaker 6: was nice to to get a good barrel right there,
22:17
Speaker 6: and definitely felt good.
22:20
Speaker 2: To see you and Don and batting practice.
22:22
Speaker 3: But they try to trade jobs off the hare cafe
22:25
Speaker 3: or kind of one up each other a little bit.
22:27
Speaker 6: How fun to do that any game? Yeah, it's fun.
22:31
Speaker 6: I thank god it's a little more than than I did.
22:34
Speaker 6: But that's always fun to compete with him, especially in
22:37
Speaker 6: batting practice. But he's got a lot more juice and
22:41
Speaker 6: I do, so it's hard.
22:42
Speaker 3: To compete with him.
22:43
Speaker 2: Did you remind you of that after the second month?
22:46
Speaker 6: No, I don't think he did, but I'm sure tomorrow
22:48
Speaker 6: he'll bring it up at some.
22:49
Speaker 3: Point both you and Don.
22:51
Speaker 6: Also, how old is you know? Someone's talking about the
22:55
Speaker 6: struggle against South here just kind of the key for
22:58
Speaker 6: you guys to maybe go to that. That's just working
23:03
Speaker 6: your approach, not gonna worry about the hand something down there. Yeah,
23:07
Speaker 6: that's the biggest thing is not you know, thinking too
23:10
Speaker 6: much about oh he's a lefty, like seeing you so
23:13
Speaker 6: much different. It's more so like, all right, let's create
23:15
Speaker 6: an approach against this guy, and like let's stick to
23:17
Speaker 6: it and like it's not going to do too much
23:19
Speaker 6: and just stick to the approach and you know, hit
23:22
Speaker 6: it hard somewhere.
23:24
Speaker 2: Coley Young is never going to think that anything he
23:26
Speaker 2: does is a big deal.
23:27
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, don did it better.
23:29
Speaker 2: I hope he stays that way. Yeah, that is such
23:32
Speaker 2: a That would be such a cool trait to have
23:34
Speaker 2: in a not just a professional baseball player, but somebody
23:37
Speaker 2: that is now starting to project as he's going to
23:40
Speaker 2: be a multi time All Star. He might even there
23:44
Speaker 2: might even be a brush with superstartim. This dude's got power.
23:49
Speaker 2: I mean that was the thing that jumped out most
23:52
Speaker 2: about him to me last year was he had he
23:57
Speaker 2: hit the longest home run of the season last year.
23:59
Speaker 2: I don't know if he people realize that Cole Young
24:01
Speaker 2: get the longest home run of the season, Wow, last year.
24:03
Speaker 2: That's not in his portfolio, that's not in his scouting
24:06
Speaker 2: report that I'd read. That he has this sneaky, not
24:10
Speaker 2: pop that's power when you're in the ball four hundred
24:13
Speaker 2: and sixty four and seventy feet that is power. And
24:18
Speaker 2: this year you can tell he's a little broader, he's
24:20
Speaker 2: a little thicker. He's like put on man weight at
24:23
Speaker 2: this stage in his life. And obviously they've got him
24:26
Speaker 2: in the weight room as well. But he now fills
24:28
Speaker 2: out a jersey, which he didn't a year ago. And
24:32
Speaker 2: so I said at the beginning of the season, he's
24:35
Speaker 2: going to get twenty home runs this year. He was
24:39
Speaker 2: tore it in the spring and he hasn't quite delivered
24:42
Speaker 2: on the being the power source so far this season.
24:46
Speaker 2: He's more delivered on being just steady eddy defensively and
24:52
Speaker 2: a reliable bat. When Cole comes to the plate, we
24:54
Speaker 2: feel pretty good about it, don't we. Yeah, no matter
24:57
Speaker 2: what time.
24:57
Speaker 3: In the game.
24:58
Speaker 2: I mean, doesn't mean he's going to get it. Hadn't
25:00
Speaker 2: had a great year. It's not like Tony Gwyn coming
25:02
Speaker 2: to the plate. But you don't have a You feel
25:05
Speaker 2: like you got a chance every time Cole Young comes
25:07
Speaker 2: to the plate, because he usually gives you a good
25:09
Speaker 2: at bat. But I'm telling you he was always described
25:12
Speaker 2: as a floor guy. It's gonna be a high floor boy.
25:15
Speaker 2: He's just gonna be He's a gamer. He's gonna get
25:17
Speaker 2: that uniform dirty. You know, he's gonna hit for a
25:20
Speaker 2: decent average. He's gonna play very good defense. He's gonna
25:23
Speaker 2: run the base as well. But what we've seen this
25:26
Speaker 2: year is, man, this guy's got a ceiling. This guy's
25:30
Speaker 2: ceiling that was underreported when he was coming up through
25:33
Speaker 2: the ranks. And man, you see him go dead center
25:36
Speaker 2: last night for a home run and then off the top.
25:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, hitt cafe.
25:41
Speaker 2: On his on his second home run of the day,
25:44
Speaker 2: and then the beautiful inside out swing to left center
25:48
Speaker 2: field for the base hit. And that's against two different
25:50
Speaker 2: pitchers who are completely different from one another. Uh yeah,
25:54
Speaker 2: that was that was some special stuff from him last night,
25:57
Speaker 2: no doubt.
25:58
Speaker 6: Yeah.
25:58
Speaker 5: And I think too, just in having the comfort when
26:01
Speaker 5: he comes up to the plate and knowing that you've
26:03
Speaker 5: got a real chance to at least get on base
26:04
Speaker 5: when he's up to bat. It's because, again of his demeanor,
26:08
Speaker 5: he doesn't think anything he does is that big of
26:10
Speaker 5: a deal. He doesn't walk up thinking, I got to
26:12
Speaker 5: swing for the fences. This whole game's on my shoulders.
26:14
Speaker 5: He's just got to go do what I know how
26:17
Speaker 5: to do.
26:17
Speaker 2: And then dom can Zones obviously come into his own.
26:21
Speaker 2: He's our number three hitter right now. I mean Cal
26:23
Speaker 2: Rawley's hitting six and Dom Canzone's hitting third, who had
26:26
Speaker 2: that not predicted that at the beginning of the year,
26:28
Speaker 2: Not me, but for nine zeros. At this point, I've
26:32
Speaker 2: already talked about this the last hour. I mean, he's
26:35
Speaker 2: he's earned every day reps lefties and righty's. He should
26:39
Speaker 2: be in the lineup every day. And Cole already wrestled
26:43
Speaker 2: second base away from anyone that thought about playing second
26:45
Speaker 2: base for the Mariners in the next ten years, you
26:47
Speaker 2: can forget about it. So to have those two sort
26:50
Speaker 2: of kind of entrenched right now, as far as I'm concerned,
26:55
Speaker 2: I think those are two good pieces to have figured
26:57
Speaker 2: out this year. I know there are a lot of
26:58
Speaker 2: things we haven't figured out this see, but those are
27:01
Speaker 2: two good things to have figured out along with Emerson Hancock.
27:05
Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that we're getting contributions like this
27:08
Speaker 2: from guys that we weren't expecting and we're still a
27:10
Speaker 2: five hundred baseball team is lunacy.
27:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree.
27:14
Speaker 5: I Mean, we thought when Colt Everson got called up
27:17
Speaker 5: that was much earlier than we expected him to be up.
27:19
Speaker 2: And he's been really good too, really good. Yeah. Yeah,
27:22
Speaker 2: So what did we learn today, kids on the baseball brunch, Well,
27:25
Speaker 2: we learned that Cole Young looked locked in last night.
27:29
Speaker 2: We also learned that George Kirby is locked in. That's
27:33
Speaker 2: four straight quality starts for him, and he's gotten better
27:36
Speaker 2: with each start. Forget about scrap the piggy bank, you know,
27:41
Speaker 2: because George Kirby doesn't want to hear any piggyback talk
27:45
Speaker 2: right now. The way that he's pitching, he's sort of
27:48
Speaker 2: announced to the world that he's in a groove himself.
27:52
Speaker 2: Another thing we learned is that the M's played a
27:54
Speaker 2: complete game last night for the first time in a while,
27:58
Speaker 2: and they even fell behind two to nothing. But of
28:00
Speaker 2: course that's two to nothing in the third inning. Dan
28:03
Speaker 2: hadn't given up.
28:04
Speaker 4: Yet, right, we needed one more inning?
28:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the six, when we're down too, that's when
28:10
Speaker 2: you quit. Everybody, it's over. Everybody in baseball knows that.
28:14
Speaker 1: Uh.
28:15
Speaker 2: And then the last thing, and yes, we did learn this.
28:17
Speaker 2: I didn't share this in the recap though, But even
28:22
Speaker 2: when George made things as easy as he could on
28:25
Speaker 2: his manager by going eight innings of pitching in the
28:29
Speaker 2: modern day, I gotta be honest with you, I still
28:34
Speaker 2: think he screwed up the bullpen decision. And I didn't.
28:37
Speaker 6: I don't.
28:37
Speaker 2: I do not necessarily that Ferrer was chosen over Munos.
28:41
Speaker 2: But what have we talked about with mun Jos. He
28:44
Speaker 2: needs to pitch more frequently. You left him standing and
28:49
Speaker 2: stalking on Sunday, never even got into a close game,
28:52
Speaker 2: and we blew it.
28:53
Speaker 4: Yep.
28:54
Speaker 2: And now now we've gone another day without him pitching,
28:57
Speaker 2: and the statistics beare out. He likes to pitch right regularly, yep.
29:01
Speaker 2: So you're giving him another day. And then if we
29:04
Speaker 2: win twelve to two tonight or lose seven to one,
29:07
Speaker 2: then he won't pitch again tonight.
29:10
Speaker 4: And then they'll have tomorrow off.
29:11
Speaker 2: And then they have tomorrow off. So this is the
29:14
Speaker 2: risk here. I would have just gone straight to Mooney
29:17
Speaker 2: last night, since Farrer's so fragile right now, I'd have
29:21
Speaker 2: gone to Munhos. F the save. I don't care about
29:24
Speaker 2: a stat what's best for the team, what's best for
29:28
Speaker 2: the player. I would have gone to Munos. They didn't
29:31
Speaker 2: do that, and they went to Ferrer. Okay, Okay, reasonable
29:37
Speaker 2: minds can differ, but I would have definitely not had
29:41
Speaker 2: Munyos pack up his bag. No, especially when Farrer puts
29:45
Speaker 2: two guys on base and now I'm not going to
29:47
Speaker 2: go to my closer. My closer is not ready to
29:49
Speaker 2: come into the game. We go to Ferrer, but we're
29:53
Speaker 2: not going to get our closure up. And I get
29:55
Speaker 2: it he does. Earlier in the season he was having
29:58
Speaker 2: difficult time walking into games with traffic on the base paths.
30:03
Speaker 2: He'd been on an absolute freaking roll lately. I'm not
30:05
Speaker 2: worried about that anymore. He's back.
30:07
Speaker 5: But also if you are worried about that at all,
30:09
Speaker 5: then again you should have definitely put him in to
30:12
Speaker 5: start the ninth.
30:13
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, for sure.
30:15
Speaker 4: Yeah.
30:15
Speaker 2: So I even think he screwed it up again last night.
30:19
Speaker 3: I do.
30:20
Speaker 2: I was question even though even though George took care
30:22
Speaker 2: of ninety of the work.
30:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just surprised. Then in the ninth when
30:27
Speaker 4: Ferrer came in. I was like, oh, okay, I would
30:30
Speaker 4: have I would have gone with Moonee.
30:31
Speaker 2: I would have gone with Munos, and I certainly would
30:33
Speaker 2: have had Munyos ready if Farrer got into any trouble.
30:36
Speaker 2: Now Ferrer ends up getting out of it, so good.
30:38
Speaker 2: I guess it ends up being the right decision, or
30:42
Speaker 2: at least a good decision, right. I don't think it
30:44
Speaker 2: was the right thing.
30:45
Speaker 4: It worked out.
30:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, coming up next on the radio program,
30:49
Speaker 2: the Kraken have gotten through the draft. They've toyed around
30:53
Speaker 2: with Jason Robertson that kind of blew up in their faces.
30:58
Speaker 2: So are we not trading Shane Wright. We'll talk about
31:02
Speaker 2: in next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. All right, right,
31:18
Speaker 2: Heally's gonna join us at nine o'clock. A lot of
31:21
Speaker 2: stuff to talk about with Ryan Healey, the former Mariner,
31:24
Speaker 2: joins us every Tuesday at nine o'clock, So we'll do
31:28
Speaker 2: that coming up on the program. But all right, we're
31:31
Speaker 2: through the NHL Draft and we're through the earliest phase
31:38
Speaker 2: of like movement that took place, and the Kraken did
31:42
Speaker 2: make a trade of significance and they did re sign McMahon,
31:46
Speaker 2: So it's not like we're sitting on our hands to
31:48
Speaker 2: this point. But heading into the draft, you know, obviously
31:52
Speaker 2: the Jason Robertson story breaks and then he turns us down,
31:57
Speaker 2: and I guess he turned several organizations down. He has
32:02
Speaker 2: an agenda heading into where he's going to play the
32:06
Speaker 2: next stretch of his hockey doesn't sound like it's going
32:08
Speaker 2: to be in Dallas, but it sounds like it's going
32:11
Speaker 2: to be in California, So he's trying to thread that
32:13
Speaker 2: needle here going forward. So there might have been many, many, many,
32:16
Speaker 2: many many reasons beyond the Kraken for why Jason Robertson
32:22
Speaker 2: did not come to Seattle, but it did kind of
32:26
Speaker 2: get kracking fans mouths already for a big time significant trade,
32:32
Speaker 2: even beyond Marashenko or Samuskevitch.
32:37
Speaker 4: I have Marshenko, Sammy Samuskevitch.
32:38
Speaker 2: Sam Sev Samuskevitch. I have Marshenko in front of me.
32:42
Speaker 2: I'm getting ready to talk about him. So even beyond Samuskevitch,
32:47
Speaker 2: something even bigger and kind of feels like we need
32:50
Speaker 2: something a little bit bigger. And then you go through
32:54
Speaker 2: the draft and then you use the seventh pick. You
32:57
Speaker 2: don't make the trade, you don't use that pick to
33:00
Speaker 2: And now it sounds like, based on what we heard
33:02
Speaker 2: from al that they're absolutely in love with who they
33:05
Speaker 2: got with the seventh pick. Chase reied the defenceman. So
33:08
Speaker 2: I don't think that you're going to have that kind
33:11
Speaker 2: of love affair, of that kind of pr push and
33:16
Speaker 2: then next week we just trade the young man you know,
33:19
Speaker 2: it sounds like everybody's in love with the selections. So
33:22
Speaker 2: are we going to make a big move or not?
33:25
Speaker 2: Is Samy Skevitch going to be it? Is McMahon going
33:28
Speaker 2: to be it? Are we going to make some sort
33:31
Speaker 2: of if not Blockbuster, something close, something in the neighborhood
33:34
Speaker 2: of Blockbuster. Are we going to get some veteran It
33:38
Speaker 2: does sound like they still want to do that. And
33:42
Speaker 2: if it's not going to be the pick, you know
33:44
Speaker 2: who it's got to be. It's got to be Shane Wright.
33:47
Speaker 2: It's got to be the person that you dangle that
33:51
Speaker 2: has all that talent that somebody out there in the
33:55
Speaker 2: NHL is going to say going to have the ego
33:58
Speaker 2: to say we know how to coach that kind of talent.
34:02
Speaker 2: They don't know how to do that in Seattle. So
34:04
Speaker 2: it's gonna be so you're gonna be able to dangle them.
34:06
Speaker 2: There's gonna be There are gonna be some interested parties
34:08
Speaker 2: out there. But you wonder how good a player can
34:12
Speaker 2: you get just dangling him coming off the season that
34:15
Speaker 2: he's had, which has been a backslide. Obviously, Lane Lambert
34:20
Speaker 2: not the biggest fan of Shane Wright. Otherwise he wouldn't
34:23
Speaker 2: have demoted him four times during the season last year.
34:27
Speaker 2: And then there might be another player or two that
34:30
Speaker 2: could be available in a trade to make a bigger
34:33
Speaker 2: package going forward. And it sounds like there might be
34:37
Speaker 2: a couple of guys beyond Shane Wright that are a
34:40
Speaker 2: little bit in the Lambert doghouse, and so there's still
34:46
Speaker 2: gotta be some sort of trade out there available. Well,
34:50
Speaker 2: one team out there that seems to be in sort
34:52
Speaker 2: of the same boat are the Columbus Blue Jackets. The
34:55
Speaker 2: Blue Jackets also thought they should be better right now
34:59
Speaker 2: that they feel like the things that they've done, they
35:02
Speaker 2: should be better than finishing fifth in their division like
35:05
Speaker 2: they did a year ago. And so they might also
35:09
Speaker 2: be abandoning a couple of guys that number one that's
35:14
Speaker 2: just not working for them there, or number two they
35:17
Speaker 2: don't believe that they can afford once the time comes
35:19
Speaker 2: that they become free agents. And maybe the guy that
35:23
Speaker 2: fits us the most, and it would take a blockbuster,
35:26
Speaker 2: it would be take right and something else is kirol Marshenko,
35:31
Speaker 2: twenty five year old winger who scored twenty seven goals
35:34
Speaker 2: this past season sixty seven points this past year. I
35:37
Speaker 2: mean that fits the bill. That's kind of what we need.
35:39
Speaker 2: We need some sort of score. Somebody puts the biscuit
35:42
Speaker 2: near the basket at least, and so somebody keep your
35:46
Speaker 2: eye on if they're not done pursuing a big, significant
35:50
Speaker 2: trade and it will take more than right. But it
35:54
Speaker 2: sounds to me like not to throw anybody else under
35:57
Speaker 2: the bus. It sounds like there's a group of players
35:59
Speaker 2: that may they're not too happy with here in Seattle
36:03
Speaker 2: that could be packaged together for something like Marshenko. So
36:06
Speaker 2: maybe that's the next guy that we circle as a
36:10
Speaker 2: possibility for Seattle, as he now seems to be available
36:14
Speaker 2: from Columbus well.
36:15
Speaker 5: And I would like to see them obviously still do
36:17
Speaker 5: something because when we talked about the Robertson swing and
36:20
Speaker 5: the fact that you know, it didn't hit, the one
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Speaker 5: thing I said was I like that they're doing that.
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Speaker 5: I like that they're taking that big, big swing and
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Speaker 5: seeing what happens. So I hope that's not the only
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Speaker 5: big swing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are other big swings to take.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Dylan Larkin's still out there from the Red Wings.
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Speaker 2: He seems to have the same Robertson list, Like, Nope,
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Speaker 2: I'm only going to be traded to one of these
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Speaker 2: three teams.
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Speaker 4: But you are run a trade me, Yeah right, I
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Speaker 4: love them.
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Speaker 2: Well, try to control his own destiny. I guess you
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Speaker 2: understand that. But apparently Jason Robertson's the most powerful person
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Speaker 2: in the world.
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Speaker 4: It's crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't think they're done dealing. I think
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Speaker 2: they are going to make another big move. If it's
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Speaker 2: as big as Robertson, I don't know. Maybe that won't
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Speaker 2: come together, but I have a feeling that they've got
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Speaker 2: another big move in mind before this offseason comes to
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Speaker 2: a close. All right, Ryan Healil join us Next Sports
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