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Hollywood's Uncertain Comeback · Phil and Ted's Sexy Boomer Show

• 0:03
  Welcome
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  to
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  Phil
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  and
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  Ted's
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  Sexy
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  Boomer
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  Show.
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  I'm
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  Ted
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  Bonnitt
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  and
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  my
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  pal
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  Phil
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  Proctor
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  is
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  somewhere.
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  Hello,
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  Phil.
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  How
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  are
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  ya?
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  I'm
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  good.
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  You're
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  in
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  Delaware.
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  You're
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  not
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  far
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  from
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  Rehoboth
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  Bay.
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  You're
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  very
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  close
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  to
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  Camp
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  Arrowhead,
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  where
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  I
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  spent
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  my
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  fifth
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  grade
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  summer.
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  That's
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  just
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  scary.
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  Our
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  guest
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  today
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  is
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  David
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  Poland,
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  an
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  entertainment
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  film,
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  film
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  industry
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  veteran
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  and
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  journalist
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  and
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  critic
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  and
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  host
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  of
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  David
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  Reads
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  the
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  Trades
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  on
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  Substack,
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  which
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  is
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  something
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  you
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  write
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  every
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  day
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  and
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  also
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  you
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  host
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  as
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  a
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  video.
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  I
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  do
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  the
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  daily
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  podcast
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  five
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  days
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  a
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  week
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  and
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  then
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  I
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  do
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  write.
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  Probably
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  three,
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  four
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  times
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  a
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  week
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  now
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  in
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  longer
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  form.
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  And
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  that's
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  the
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  hot
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  button.
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  That
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  one's
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  called.
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  Yeah,
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  the
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  hot
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  button.
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  We're
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  so
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  glad
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  you're
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  here
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  because
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  Phil
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  and
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  I
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  have
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  been
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  trying
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  to
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  understand
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  the
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  film
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  business
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  and
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  the
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  entertainment
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  business
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  at
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  large
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  here
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  in
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  Hollywood
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  for
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  the
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  last
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  10
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  years.
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  And
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  particularly
• 0:58
  the
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  demise
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  of
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  the
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  industry,
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  which
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  you
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  touched
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  upon
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  in
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  one
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  of
• 1:02
  your
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  last
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  podcasts.
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  Yes.
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  Maybe
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  you
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  could
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  help
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  explain
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  to
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  us
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  what
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  the
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  hell's
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  going
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  on
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  in
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  the
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  industry.
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  Most
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  importantly,
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  I'm
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  from
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  Pikesville,
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  Maryland
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  originally,.
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  Which
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  is
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  just
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  on
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  the
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  other
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  border,.
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  The
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  border
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  of
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  Delaware.
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  We're
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  very
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  close
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  to
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  Delaware,
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  so
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  I
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  feel
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  like
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  I'm
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  close
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  to
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  Phil
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  already.
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  I
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  didn't
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  have
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  a
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  praying.
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  That's
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  great,
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  David.
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  And
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  there's
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  like
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  a
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  whole
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  Baltimore
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  mafia
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  here
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  in
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  the
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  business.
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  Tom
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  Rothman
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  is
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  from
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  Baltimore.
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  There
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  are
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  a
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  bunch
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  of
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  filmmakers
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  from.
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  Baltimore,
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  so
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  we
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  have
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  a
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  weird
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  little.
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  Cult
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  here
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  in
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  la.
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  Figure.
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  Wonderful.
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  Very
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  interesting.
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  Thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  coming
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  down.
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  I'm
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  happy
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  to
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  be
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  here.
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  I
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  always
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  like
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  the
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  demise
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  of
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  the
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  world
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  as
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  we
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  know
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  it.
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  You
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  know,
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  it's
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  been
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  suggested
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  that
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  the
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  media
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  has
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  been
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  run
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  by
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  liberals
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  for
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  years
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  and
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  years,
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  mostly
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  has.
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  It's
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  a
• 1:44
  liberal
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  business.
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  It's
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  not
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  ridiculous
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  to
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  say
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  that
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  the
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  liberals
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  run
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  this
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  industry,
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  but
• 1:50
  liberal
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  ideas,
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  I'd
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  say,
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  are
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  70
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  to
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  80%
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  of
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  what
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  this
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  country
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  actually
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  believes.
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  We
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  have
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  been
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  separated
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  by
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  Donald
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  Trump
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  over
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  the
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  course
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  of
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  a
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  decade
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  now,
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  being
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  told
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  he
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  finds
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  these
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  things
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  to
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  make
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  people
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  afraid
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  of
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  and
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  he
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  uses
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  them
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  to
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  leverage
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  his
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  voting
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  and
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  everything
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  else.
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  But
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  the
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  problem
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  for
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  me
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  is
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  that
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  in
• 2:07
  this
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  industry,
• 2:08
  what
• 2:08
  we're
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  seeing
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  is
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  everybody
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  was
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  happy
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  that
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  David
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  Ellison
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  was
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  taking
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  over
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  Paramount.
• 2:12
  Paramount
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  was
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  a
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  flat
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  company
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  for
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  a
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  very
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  long
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  time,
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  going
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  back
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  to
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  when
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  Sumner
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  really
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  got
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  sick
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  15
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  years
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  ago
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  already.
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  And
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  then
• 2:20
  Brad
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  Gray
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  was
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  a
• 2:21
  horrible
• 2:21
  choice
• 2:22
  over
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  there.
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  And
• 2:22
  it
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  never
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  really.
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  The
• 2:23
  company
• 2:23
  just
• 2:23
  went.
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  Was
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  basically
• 2:25
  dog
• 2:25
  paddling
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  for
• 2:26
  15
• 2:26
  years
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  so
• 2:27
  there
• 2:27
  was
• 2:28
  this
• 2:28
  kind
• 2:28
  of
• 2:28
  thrill
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  that
• 2:29
  somebody
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  was
• 2:29
  coming
• 2:29
  in
• 2:30
  with
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  a
• 2:30
  lot
• 2:30
  of
• 2:30
  money
• 2:30
  and
• 2:30
  maybe
• 2:30
  he
• 2:31
  would
• 2:31
  build,
• 2:31
  rebuild
• 2:31
  the
• 2:31
  studio.
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  As
• 2:33
  it's
• 2:33
  turned
• 2:33
  out,
• 2:33
  the
• 2:34
  Ellisons
• 2:34
  are
• 2:35
  in
• 2:35
  camp.
• 2:35
  Trump,
• 2:36
  Jeff
• 2:36
  Bezos,
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  who
• 2:37
  we
• 2:38
  think
• 2:38
  is
• 2:38
  a
• 2:38
  liberal
• 2:38
  in
• 2:39
  real
• 2:39
  life,
• 2:40
  bought
• 2:40
  the
• 2:40
  Washington
• 2:41
  Post,
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  and
• 2:42
  he
• 2:42
  every.
• 2:43
  At
• 2:43
  first
• 2:43
  it
• 2:43
  was,
• 2:43
  oh,
• 2:44
  my
• 2:44
  God,
• 2:44
  the
• 2:44
  Washington
• 2:44
  Post
• 2:45
  is
• 2:45
  gonna
• 2:45
  have
• 2:45
  this
• 2:45
  infusion
• 2:45
  of
• 2:46
  money
• 2:46
  and
• 2:46
  power.
• 2:47
  And
• 2:47
  then
• 2:47
  as
• 2:48
  soon
• 2:48
  as
• 2:48
  Trump
• 2:48
  pushed,
• 2:49
  he
• 2:49
  went,
• 2:49
  oh,
• 2:49
  no,
• 2:50
  let
• 2:50
  me
• 2:50
  give.
• 2:50
  You
• 2:50
  some
• 2:50
  money
• 2:50
  to
• 2:51
  make
• 2:51
  us
• 2:51
  go
• 2:51
  away.
• 2:51
  And
• 2:52
  as
• 2:52
  a
• 2:52
  result,
• 2:52
  the
• 2:52
  Washington
• 2:53
  Post
• 2:53
  has
• 2:53
  had
• 2:53
  an
• 2:53
  exodus
• 2:54
  of
• 2:54
  integrity.
• 2:55
  Much
• 2:55
  deserved,
• 2:56
  unfortunately.
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  But
• 2:57
  there's
• 2:57
  still
• 2:58
  some
• 2:58
  people
• 2:58
  there
• 2:58
  who
• 2:58
  are
• 2:58
  great,
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  but
• 2:59
  they
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  have
• 3:00
  destroyed
• 3:00
  what
• 3:00
  they
• 3:01
  were.
• 3:01
  And
• 3:01
  the
• 3:01
  same
• 3:02
  thing
• 3:02
  is
• 3:02
  happening
• 3:02
  as
• 3:03
  you
• 3:03
  see
• 3:03
  ABC
• 3:04
  or
• 3:04
  Disney
• 3:05
  under
• 3:05
  Iger.
• 3:06
  Iger
• 3:06
  is
• 3:07
  a
• 3:07
  realistic.
• 3:08
  So
• 3:08
  he
• 3:08
  gave
• 3:08
  in
• 3:08
  the
• 3:09
  first
• 3:09
  time,
• 3:09
  and
• 3:09
  you
• 3:09
  went,
• 3:10
  oh,
• 3:10
  that's
• 3:10
  not
• 3:10
  so
• 3:10
  good.
• 3:10
  But
• 3:11
  people
• 3:11
  weren't
• 3:11
  so
• 3:11
  angry.
• 3:11
  And
• 3:12
  then
• 3:12
  the
• 3:12
  second
• 3:12
  time
• 3:12
  with
• 3:12
  Kimmel,
• 3:13
  it
• 3:13
  was
• 3:13
  like,
• 3:14
  oh,
• 3:14
  now
• 3:14
  this
• 3:14
  is
• 3:15
  the
• 3:15
  fact
• 3:15
  that
• 3:15
  this
• 3:15
  is
• 3:15
  now
• 3:15
  becoming
• 3:16
  a
• 3:16
  habit.
• 3:16
  And
• 3:17
  Eisner
• 3:17
  had
• 3:17
  to
• 3:17
  step
• 3:18
  in,
• 3:18
  of
• 3:18
  all
• 3:18
  people.
• 3:19
  I
• 3:19
  think
• 3:19
  they
• 3:19
  give
• 3:19
  Eisner
• 3:20
  too
• 3:20
  much
• 3:20
  credit.
• 3:21
  Matt
• 3:21
  Bellany
• 3:21
  at
• 3:21
  Puck
• 3:22
  likes
• 3:22
  to
• 3:22
  talk
• 3:22
  about
• 3:22
  Eisner.
• 3:23
  Oh,
• 3:23
  wait
• 3:23
  a
• 3:23
  minute.
• 3:24
  Wait
• 3:24
  a
• 3:24
  minute,
• 3:24
  Dave.
• 3:25
  I
• 3:25
  went
• 3:25
  to
• 3:25
  school
• 3:26
  with
• 3:26
  Michael
• 3:26
  Eisner.
• 3:27
  There
• 3:27
  you
• 3:27
  go.
• 3:28
  Didn't
• 3:28
  we
• 3:28
  all?
• 3:28
  Okay.
• 3:29
  And
• 3:29
  I
• 3:29
  actually
• 3:30
  brought
• 3:30
  him
• 3:30
  up
• 3:30
  in
• 3:30
  front
• 3:31
  of
• 3:31
  the
• 3:31
  student
• 3:31
  council
• 3:32
  for
• 3:32
  chewing
• 3:33
  gum
• 3:33
  in
• 3:33
  class.
• 3:35
  Did
• 3:35
  he
• 3:35
  have
• 3:35
  enough
• 3:35
  for
• 3:35
  everybody?
• 3:37
  Not
• 3:37
  that,
• 3:38
  but
• 3:38
  he
• 3:38
  sure
• 3:38
  does
• 3:39
  now.
• 3:39
  I
• 3:39
  think
• 3:40
  they
• 3:40
  finally
• 3:40
  sold
• 3:40
  tops.
• 3:41
  He
• 3:41
  owned
• 3:41
  Topps
• 3:41
  for
• 3:42
  a
• 3:42
  while
• 3:42
  with
• 3:43
  the
• 3:43
  baseball
• 3:43
  cards
• 3:43
  with
• 3:43
  a
• 3:44
  gum
• 3:44
  in
• 3:44
  it.
• 3:44
  They
• 3:44
  bought
• 3:44
  that
• 3:45
  out.
• 3:45
  I
• 3:45
  think
• 3:45
  they
• 3:45
  finally
• 3:45
  sold
• 3:45
  it.
• 3:46
  But
• 3:46
  Eisner
• 3:47
  was.
• 3:47
  Eisner
• 3:48
  feels
• 3:48
  like
• 3:48
  a
• 3:48
  lifetime
• 3:49
  ago
• 3:49
  of
• 3:50
  concept.
• 3:50
  And
• 3:51
  it
• 3:51
  was
• 3:51
  different.
• 3:52
  Eisner
• 3:52
  was
• 3:52
  there
• 3:52
  before
• 3:53
  DVDs
• 3:54
  existed,
• 3:54
  forget
• 3:55
  about
• 3:55
  streaming
• 3:55
  or
• 3:55
  anything
• 3:56
  else.
• 3:56
  The
• 3:56
  industry
• 3:57
  was
• 3:57
  very
• 3:57
  different
• 3:57
  at
• 3:58
  that
• 3:58
  time.
• 3:58
  At
• 3:58
  the
• 3:58
  time
• 3:58
  that
• 3:59
  I
• 3:59
  was
• 3:59
  doing
• 3:59
  all
• 3:59
  of
• 4:00
  my
• 4:00
  major
• 4:01
  work,
• 4:01
  the
• 4:02
  industry
• 4:02
  was
• 4:03
  much
• 4:03
  more
• 4:03
  of
• 4:04
  a
• 4:04
  community.
• 4:05
  And
• 4:06
  that
• 4:06
  started
• 4:06
  to
• 4:07
  erode
• 4:08
  once
• 4:08
  the
• 4:09
  online
• 4:09
  presence
• 4:10
  happened.
• 4:11
  And
• 4:11
  so
• 4:12
  all
• 4:12
  of
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  sudden,
• 4:13
  instead
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  sitting
• 4:13
  in
• 4:13
  a
• 4:14
  green
• 4:14
  room,
• 4:15
  waiting
• 4:15
  to
• 4:15
  go
• 4:15
  into
• 4:16
  your
• 4:16
  agent's
• 4:17
  little
• 4:17
  booth
• 4:18
  and
• 4:18
  record
• 4:19
  an
• 4:19
  audition,
• 4:20
  yakking
• 4:21
  with
• 4:21
  all
• 4:21
  your
• 4:21
  old
• 4:21
  friends
• 4:22
  and
• 4:22
  everything,
• 4:22
  you're
• 4:23
  sitting
• 4:23
  down
• 4:23
  in
• 4:24
  your
• 4:24
  little
• 4:24
  makeshift
• 4:25
  studio
• 4:25
  in
• 4:26
  a
• 4:26
  basement
• 4:26
  or
• 4:27
  somewhere,
• 4:27
  talking
• 4:28
  alone
• 4:28
  into
• 4:29
  a
• 4:29
  microphone.
• 4:30
  But
• 4:30
  that
• 4:30
  also
• 4:31
  accurately
• 4:31
  mirrors
• 4:32
  the
• 4:32
  consumer
• 4:33
  at
• 4:33
  this
• 4:33
  point
• 4:33
  who's
• 4:34
  sitting
• 4:34
  at
• 4:34
  home
• 4:34
  alone,
• 4:35
  siloed
• 4:36
  into
• 4:36
  their
• 4:37
  confirmation
• 4:37
  bia.
• 4:38
  Yes
• 4:38
  and
• 4:39
  no.
• 4:39
  It's
• 4:39
  a
• 4:39
  weird
• 4:40
  thing.
• 4:40
  I
• 4:40
  think
• 4:40
  there
• 4:40
  are
• 4:40
  things
• 4:41
  that
• 4:41
  are
• 4:41
  true
• 4:42
  about
• 4:42
  how
• 4:42
  it's
• 4:43
  changed.
• 4:43
  I
• 4:43
  think
• 4:43
  there
• 4:44
  are
• 4:44
  things
• 4:44
  that
• 4:44
  are
• 4:44
  not
• 4:44
  true
• 4:44
  There's
• 4:45
  a
• 4:45
  great
• 4:45
  book
• 4:45
  that
• 4:45
  I
• 4:46
  always
• 4:46
  reference
• 4:46
  called
• 4:47
  Movies
• 4:47
  and
• 4:47
  Money
• 4:48
  by
• 4:48
  the
• 4:48
  great
• 4:48
  producer
• 4:49
  David
• 4:49
  Putnam,
• 4:50
  who
• 4:50
  ran
• 4:50
  Columbia
• 4:51
  for
• 4:51
  two
• 4:51
  years
• 4:51
  before
• 4:51
  he
• 4:52
  got
• 4:52
  murdered
• 4:52
  for
• 4:52
  being
• 4:53
  too
• 4:53
  adventurous.
• 4:54
  But
• 4:54
  he's
• 4:54
  a
• 4:54
  great
• 4:54
  producer
• 4:55
  and
• 4:55
  he
• 4:55
  wrote
• 4:55
  this
• 4:55
  book.
• 4:56
  And
• 4:56
  basically
• 4:56
  going
• 4:57
  back
• 4:57
  to
• 4:57
  1910,
• 4:58
  every
• 4:58
  decade
• 4:59
  there
• 4:59
  was
• 4:59
  a
• 4:59
  bunch
• 5:00
  of
• 5:00
  media
• 5:00
  and
• 5:00
  whatever
• 5:01
  saying
• 5:01
  cinema,
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  theatrical
• 5:02
  business
• 5:03
  is
• 5:03
  going
• 5:03
  out
• 5:03
  of
• 5:03
  business.
• 5:04
  That
• 5:04
  there's
• 5:04
  always
• 5:04
  been
• 5:05
  the
• 5:05
  naysayers.
• 5:05
  There's
• 5:06
  always
• 5:06
  been
• 5:06
  the
• 5:06
  attacks
• 5:07
  on
• 5:07
  the
• 5:07
  industry,
• 5:08
  the
• 5:08
  idea
• 5:08
  that
• 5:08
  things
• 5:08
  were
• 5:09
  going
• 5:09
  to
• 5:09
  die.
• 5:10
  My
• 5:10
  personal
• 5:11
  journey
• 5:11
  in
• 5:11
  terms
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  theatrical,
• 5:13
  really
• 5:13
  conversations
• 5:14
  about
• 5:14
  it.
• 5:14
  But
• 5:15
  it
• 5:15
  really.
• 5:15
  My
• 5:15
  big
• 5:15
  fight
• 5:16
  started
• 5:16
  with
• 5:16
  Sharon
• 5:16
  Waxman
• 5:17
  at
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  New
• 5:18
  York
• 5:18
  Times
• 5:18
  in
• 5:18
  2005
• 5:20
  when
• 5:20
  she
• 5:20
  started
• 5:21
  reporting
• 5:21
  on
• 5:21
  the
• 5:21
  box
• 5:22
  office
• 5:22
  and
• 5:22
  saying
• 5:22
  how
• 5:22
  things
• 5:23
  were
• 5:23
  terrible.
• 5:23
  It
• 5:23
  was
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  year
• 5:24
  after
• 5:24
  the
• 5:25
  Passion
• 5:25
  of
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  Christ
• 5:26
  had
• 5:26
  done
• 5:26
  this
• 5:27
  enormous
• 5:27
  number
• 5:27
  in
• 5:28
  February
• 5:28
  and
• 5:28
  March.
• 5:29
  And
• 5:29
  so
• 5:29
  it
• 5:30
  had
• 5:30
  skewed
• 5:30
  the
• 5:30
  numbers.
• 5:30
  So
• 5:31
  she
• 5:31
  started
• 5:31
  with,
• 5:31
  the
• 5:32
  box
• 5:32
  office
• 5:32
  is
• 5:33
  down.
• 5:33
  It's
• 5:33
  all
• 5:34
  over.
• 5:34
  The
• 5:34
  kids
• 5:34
  are
• 5:34
  playing
• 5:35
  video
• 5:35
  games.
• 5:35
  The
• 5:36
  kids
• 5:36
  are
• 5:36
  doing
• 5:36
  this.
• 5:36
  They
• 5:36
  have
• 5:37
  their
• 5:37
  computers.
• 5:38
  And
• 5:38
  then
• 5:38
  the
• 5:39
  middle
• 5:39
  of
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  summer,
• 5:39
  it
• 5:40
  had
• 5:40
  caught
• 5:40
  up
• 5:40
  already,
• 5:41
  so
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  numbers
• 5:41
  were
• 5:42
  now
• 5:42
  going
• 5:42
  up.
• 5:42
  Then
• 5:42
  she
• 5:43
  came
• 5:43
  up
• 5:43
  with,
• 5:43
  there
• 5:43
  are
• 5:44
  fewer
• 5:44
  tickets
• 5:44
  being
• 5:45
  sold
• 5:45
  based
• 5:45
  on
• 5:45
  blah,
• 5:46
  blah,
• 5:46
  blah.
• 5:46
  And
• 5:46
  they
• 5:46
  always
• 5:47
  find
• 5:47
  an
• 5:47
  excuse
• 5:47
  to
• 5:47
  be
• 5:48
  negative.
• 5:48
  And
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  New
• 5:49
  York
• 5:49
  Times
• 5:49
  has
• 5:49
  been
• 5:50
  negative
• 5:50
  about
• 5:50
  theatrical
• 5:51
  ever
• 5:51
  since.
• 5:51
  There's
• 5:51
  this.
• 5:52
  And
• 5:52
  I've
• 5:52
  been.
• 5:52
  And
• 5:53
  you
• 5:53
  guys
• 5:53
  haven't
• 5:53
  been
• 5:54
  reading
• 5:54
  me
• 5:54
  that
• 5:54
  long,
• 5:54
  which
• 5:54
  is
• 5:54
  probably
• 5:55
  good
• 5:55
  for
• 5:55
  you.
• 5:55
  But
• 5:56
  five
• 5:57
  years
• 5:57
  ago,
• 5:57
  I
• 5:58
  was
• 5:58
  talking
• 5:58
  about
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  fact
• 5:58
  that
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  industry,
• 5:59
  as
• 6:00
  it
• 6:00
  expanded
• 6:01
  for
• 6:01
  streaming,
• 6:02
  was
• 6:02
  doing
• 6:03
  something
• 6:03
  that
• 6:03
  was
• 6:03
  insane.
• 6:04
  The
• 6:04
  idea
• 6:05
  that
• 6:05
  they
• 6:05
  all
• 6:05
  went
• 6:05
  from
• 6:05
  spending.
• 6:06
  Television
• 6:07
  budgets
• 6:07
  for
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  company
• 6:08
  were
• 6:08
  three
• 6:09
  or
• 6:09
  four
• 6:09
  billion
• 6:09
  dollars
• 6:10
  a
• 6:10
  year
• 6:10
  if
• 6:10
  they
• 6:11
  had
• 6:11
  a
• 6:11
  network.
• 6:11
  Yeah.
• 6:12
  Movie
• 6:13
  budgets
• 6:13
  were
• 6:13
  2
• 6:13
  million.
• 6:14
  2
• 6:14
  billion
• 6:14
  or
• 6:14
  less.
• 6:15
  There
• 6:15
  really
• 6:15
  was
• 6:15
  nobody
• 6:16
  spending
• 6:16
  over
• 6:16
  2
• 6:16
  billion
• 6:17
  till
• 6:17
  Disney
• 6:17
  had
• 6:17
  all
• 6:18
  those
• 6:18
  franchises.
• 6:19
  They
• 6:19
  started
• 6:19
  spending
• 6:19
  3
• 6:20
  billion
• 6:20
  a
• 6:20
  year.
• 6:20
  It
• 6:20
  was
• 6:20
  very
• 6:20
  unusual.
• 6:21
  All
• 6:21
  of
• 6:21
  a
• 6:21
  sudden,
• 6:21
  Everybody
• 6:22
  went
• 6:22
  to
• 6:22
  18
• 6:22
  billion
• 6:23
  a
• 6:23
  year
• 6:23
  because
• 6:23
  Netflix
• 6:24
  did
• 6:24
  it.
• 6:25
  And
• 6:25
  it
• 6:25
  was
• 6:25
  inevitably
• 6:26
  not
• 6:26
  going
• 6:26
  to
• 6:27
  work.
• 6:27
  That
• 6:27
  was
• 6:27
  more
• 6:28
  money
• 6:28
  than
• 6:28
  Hollywood
• 6:29
  was
• 6:29
  making
• 6:29
  gross
• 6:30
  in
• 6:30
  a
• 6:30
  year.
• 6:30
  Crazy,
• 6:31
  though,
• 6:31
  there
• 6:31
  was
• 6:31
  a
• 6:32
  moment
• 6:32
  for
• 6:32
  DVD
• 6:32
  where
• 6:33
  there
• 6:33
  was
• 6:33
  more
• 6:33
  money,
• 6:34
  but
• 6:34
  then
• 6:34
  they
• 6:34
  blew
• 6:35
  DVD
• 6:35
  in
• 6:35
  three
• 6:36
  years
• 6:36
  because
• 6:36
  they
• 6:36
  oversaturated
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  market
• 6:37
  and
• 6:38
  started
• 6:38
  price
• 6:38
  competition
• 6:39
  internally.
• 6:40
  So
• 6:40
  that's
• 6:40
  what
• 6:40
  killed
• 6:41
  just
• 6:41
  literally
• 6:42
  three
• 6:42
  years.
• 6:43
  The
• 6:43
  space
• 6:43
  of
• 6:43
  it
• 6:43
  was
• 6:44
  seven
• 6:44
  years,
• 6:44
  but
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  heat
• 6:45
  of
• 6:45
  it
• 6:45
  was
• 6:46
  about
• 6:46
  three
• 6:46
  years.
• 6:47
  And
• 6:47
  it
• 6:47
  died
• 6:48
  before
• 6:49
  streaming,
• 6:49
  before
• 6:50
  these
• 6:50
  other
• 6:50
  comparisons
• 6:51
  were
• 6:51
  out
• 6:51
  there,
• 6:51
  before
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  Internet
• 6:52
  had
• 6:52
  become
• 6:52
  what
• 6:53
  it
• 6:53
  had
• 6:53
  become.
• 6:53
  You're
• 6:54
  talking
• 6:54
  about
• 6:54
  the
• 6:54
  negative
• 6:55
  aspects
• 6:55
  of
• 6:55
  the
• 6:56
  business.
• 6:56
  What
• 6:57
  are
• 6:57
  movies
• 6:57
  made
• 6:57
  of
• 6:58
  in
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  old
• 6:58
  days?
• 6:59
  Negatives.
• 7:01
  So
• 7:01
  it
• 7:01
  was
• 7:02
  inevitable.
• 7:04
  But
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  visionaries
• 7:04
  came
• 7:05
  in.
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  had
• 7:06
  a
• 7:06
  personal
• 7:07
  close
• 7:07
  encounter
• 7:07
  with
• 7:07
  ted
• 7:08
  Sarandos
• 7:08
  in
• 7:09
  2001
• 7:10
  when
• 7:10
  I
• 7:11
  was
• 7:11
  selling
• 7:11
  my
• 7:11
  documentary
• 7:12
  at
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  Video
• 7:13
  Software
• 7:14
  Dealers
• 7:14
  association
• 7:15
  in
• 7:15
  Las
• 7:15
  Vegas
• 7:15
  at
• 7:16
  the
• 7:16
  Rio.
• 7:17
  And
• 7:17
  we
• 7:17
  had
• 7:17
  a
• 7:18
  little
• 7:18
  independent
• 7:18
  film
• 7:19
  lounge
• 7:19
  and
• 7:19
  he
• 7:20
  came
• 7:20
  in
• 7:20
  with
• 7:20
  an
• 7:20
  entourage
• 7:21
  and
• 7:21
  it
• 7:21
  was
• 7:21
  2002,
• 7:23
  I
• 7:23
  think.
• 7:23
  So
• 7:24
  was
• 7:24
  red
• 7:24
  envelope
• 7:24
  a
• 7:24
  thing
• 7:25
  at
• 7:25
  that
• 7:25
  time?
• 7:25
  Yeah,
• 7:25
  it
• 7:25
  was
• 7:25
  still
• 7:25
  red
• 7:26
  envelopes.
• 7:26
  And
• 7:27
  he
• 7:27
  came
• 7:27
  in
• 7:28
  and
• 7:28
  he
• 7:28
  looked
• 7:28
  at
• 7:28
  my
• 7:29
  DVD
• 7:29
  and.
• 7:30
  And
• 7:30
  he
• 7:30
  said,
• 7:30
  oh,
• 7:30
  that's
• 7:31
  a
• 7:31
  nice
• 7:31
  looking
• 7:31
  disc.
• 7:31
  I
• 7:31
  said,
• 7:32
  yep,
• 7:32
  five
• 7:32
  colors.
• 7:32
  He
• 7:33
  goes,
• 7:33
  yeah,
• 7:33
  if
• 7:33
  I
• 7:34
  buy
• 7:34
  it,
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  can't
• 7:34
  have
• 7:34
  any
• 7:34
  of
• 7:35
  that.
• 7:35
  Why?
• 7:35
  He
• 7:35
  says,
• 7:35
  because
• 7:35
  all
• 7:36
  that
• 7:36
  ink
• 7:36
  makes
• 7:36
  them
• 7:37
  fragile.
• 7:37
  I'll
• 7:38
  have
• 7:38
  to
• 7:38
  buy
• 7:38
  blank.
• 7:38
  He
• 7:38
  ended
• 7:39
  up
• 7:39
  buying
• 7:39
  3,000
• 7:40
  printed.
• 7:40
  So
• 7:41
  it
• 7:41
  didn't
• 7:41
  come
• 7:42
  true.
• 7:42
  He
• 7:43
  picked
• 7:43
  up
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  disc
• 7:44
  and
• 7:44
  he
• 7:45
  like
• 7:45
  reached
• 7:45
  in
• 7:46
  about
• 7:46
  6
• 7:46
  inches
• 7:47
  from
• 7:47
  my
• 7:47
  face
• 7:47
  and
• 7:47
  he
• 7:48
  waved
• 7:48
  my
• 7:48
  disc
• 7:48
  in
• 7:49
  my
• 7:49
  face
• 7:49
  and
• 7:49
  he
• 7:49
  said,
• 7:50
  rube
• 7:50
  Goldberg
• 7:51
  device.
• 7:52
  And
• 7:52
  I
• 7:52
  said,
• 7:52
  how's
• 7:52
  that?
• 7:52
  He
• 7:52
  goes,
• 7:53
  it's
• 7:53
  all
• 7:54
  going
• 7:54
  to
• 7:55
  be
• 7:55
  streaming.
• 7:57
  And
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  don't
• 7:57
  know
• 7:57
  why
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  didn't
• 7:57
  fall
• 7:58
  to
• 7:58
  my
• 7:58
  knees
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  say,
• 7:58
  please
• 7:59
  take
• 7:59
  me
• 7:59
  with
• 7:59
  you.
• 8:00
  But
• 8:00
  that
• 8:01
  was.
• 8:01
  He
• 8:02
  knew.
• 8:02
  The
• 8:02
  thing
• 8:02
  about
• 8:03
  streaming,
• 8:03
  and
• 8:03
  I
• 8:04
  say
• 8:04
  this
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  lot,
• 8:04
  is
• 8:04
  that
• 8:05
  it's
• 8:05
  not
• 8:05
  a
• 8:06
  actual
• 8:06
  revolution.
• 8:07
  It
• 8:07
  is
• 8:07
  not
• 8:07
  really
• 8:08
  a
• 8:08
  change.
• 8:08
  All
• 8:08
  it
• 8:09
  is
• 8:09
  another
• 8:09
  delivery
• 8:09
  system.
• 8:10
  Yeah,
• 8:11
  that's
• 8:11
  right.
• 8:12
  We
• 8:12
  remember.
• 8:13
  We're
• 8:13
  all
• 8:13
  old
• 8:13
  enough
• 8:13
  to
• 8:14
  remember
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  early
• 8:15
  70s
• 8:15
  when
• 8:15
  there
• 8:15
  were
• 8:16
  no
• 8:16
  other
• 8:16
  delivery
• 8:17
  systems
• 8:17
  besides
• 8:18
  you
• 8:18
  could
• 8:18
  see
• 8:18
  a
• 8:18
  movie
• 8:18
  at
• 8:19
  11
• 8:19
  o'
• 8:19
  clock
• 8:19
  at
• 8:19
  night
• 8:19
  on
• 8:20
  your
• 8:20
  local
• 8:20
  station
• 8:20
  and
• 8:21
  that's
• 8:21
  the
• 8:21
  only
• 8:21
  time
• 8:21
  you
• 8:22
  ever
• 8:22
  saw
• 8:22
  it
• 8:22
  again
• 8:22
  after
• 8:22
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• 8:23
  it
• 8:23
  in
• 8:23
  a
• 8:23
  movie
• 8:23
  theater.
• 8:24
  Yeah,
• 8:24
  I
• 8:24
  mean,
• 8:24
  everything
• 8:25
  changed
• 8:25
  once
• 8:25
  we
• 8:26
  got
• 8:26
  VHS.
• 8:26
  And
• 8:26
  then
• 8:27
  when
• 8:27
  we
• 8:27
  really
• 8:27
  changed,
• 8:28
  we
• 8:28
  got
• 8:28
  to
• 8:28
  DVD
• 8:29
  in
• 8:29
  1999,
• 8:30
  where
• 8:30
  they
• 8:31
  were
• 8:31
  sell
• 8:31
  through
• 8:31
  was
• 8:32
  the
• 8:32
  decision
• 8:32
  by
• 8:33
  the
• 8:33
  industry
• 8:33
  to
• 8:33
  make
• 8:33
  the
• 8:34
  sell
• 8:34
  through
• 8:34
  dvd.
• 8:34
  And
• 8:35
  then
• 8:35
  streaming
• 8:36
  obviously
• 8:36
  was
• 8:36
  not
• 8:37
  possible
• 8:37
  back
• 8:37
  then.
• 8:38
  And
• 8:38
  when
• 8:38
  Netflix
• 8:38
  started
• 8:39
  streaming,
• 8:39
  it
• 8:39
  was
• 8:39
  terrible,
• 8:40
  but.
• 8:41
  And
• 8:41
  at
• 8:41
  that
• 8:41
  point
• 8:42
  studios
• 8:42
  were
• 8:42
  getting
• 8:42
  paid
• 8:43
  $30
• 8:43
  million.
• 8:43
  They
• 8:44
  were
• 8:44
  thrilled
• 8:44
  to
• 8:44
  get
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  extra
• 8:45
  $30
• 8:45
  million.
• 8:46
  But
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  format
• 8:47
  became
• 8:48
  made
• 8:48
  more
• 8:48
  sense
• 8:49
  and
• 8:49
  it
• 8:49
  makes
• 8:50
  sense
• 8:50
  and
• 8:50
  I
• 8:50
  think
• 8:50
  everything
• 8:51
  will
• 8:51
  end
• 8:51
  up
• 8:51
  being
• 8:52
  streaming
• 8:52
  technically.
• 8:53
  But
• 8:53
  what's
• 8:53
  the
• 8:54
  difference
• 8:54
  between
• 8:54
  stream
• 8:56
  broadcast
• 8:56
  television
• 8:57
  or
• 8:57
  linear
• 8:57
  television?
• 8:58
  It's
• 8:58
  a
• 8:58
  choice,
• 8:59
  right?
• 8:59
  What's
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  difference
• 9:00
  between
• 9:00
  seeing.
• 9:01
  Between
• 9:01
  streaming
• 9:02
  apps
• 9:03
  and
• 9:03
  seeing
• 9:04
  something
• 9:04
  in
• 9:04
  a
• 9:04
  movie
• 9:04
  theater?
• 9:04
  It's
• 9:05
  a
• 9:05
  choice.
• 9:05
  It's
• 9:06
  also
• 9:06
  accessibility.
• 9:07
  But
• 9:07
  accessibility's
• 9:08
  always.
• 9:09
  We've
• 9:09
  overcome.
• 9:10
  We've
• 9:10
  already
• 9:11
  engaged
• 9:11
  sensibil
• 9:12
  availability
• 9:12
  of
• 9:13
  everything
• 9:13
  for
• 9:14
  10
• 9:14
  years.
• 9:14
  We're
• 9:15
  a
• 9:15
  long
• 9:15
  time
• 9:15
  into
• 9:16
  having
• 9:16
  access
• 9:16
  to
• 9:17
  more
• 9:17
  content
• 9:17
  on
• 9:18
  any
• 9:18
  one
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  these
• 9:18
  streamers
• 9:19
  than
• 9:19
  any
• 9:20
  of
• 9:20
  us
• 9:20
  could
• 9:20
  watch
• 9:20
  in
• 9:20
  our
• 9:20
  entire
• 9:21
  lives
• 9:21
  and
• 9:21
  when.
• 9:21
  We
• 9:22
  want
• 9:22
  it
• 9:22
  technically.
• 9:23
  But
• 9:23
  we're
• 9:24
  already
• 9:24
  at
• 9:24
  a
• 9:24
  point
• 9:24
  where
• 9:24
  people
• 9:24
  are
• 9:25
  saying,
• 9:25
  I
• 9:26
  got
• 9:26
  every
• 9:26
  streamer,
• 9:27
  but
• 9:27
  I
• 9:27
  can't
• 9:27
  find
• 9:27
  anything
• 9:27
  to
• 9:27
  watch.
• 9:28
  What
• 9:28
  people
• 9:28
  ask
• 9:28
  me
• 9:29
  every
• 9:29
  week
• 9:29
  at
• 9:30
  the.
• 9:30
  I
• 9:31
  hang
• 9:31
  out
• 9:31
  with
• 9:31
  this
• 9:31
  group
• 9:31
  of
• 9:32
  guys
• 9:32
  at
• 9:32
  the
• 9:33
  end
• 9:33
  in
• 9:34
  Hollywood
• 9:34
  every
• 9:35
  week.
• 9:35
  And
• 9:35
  every
• 9:35
  week,
• 9:36
  is
• 9:36
  there
• 9:37
  anything
• 9:37
  to
• 9:37
  watch?
• 9:38
  Is
• 9:38
  there
• 9:38
  something
• 9:38
  to
• 9:38
  watch
• 9:39
  somewhere?
• 9:39
  My
• 9:39
  sisters
• 9:40
  call
• 9:40
  me,
• 9:40
  my
• 9:40
  friends
• 9:41
  call
• 9:41
  me.
• 9:41
  People
• 9:41
  like
• 9:41
  everybody
• 9:42
  wants
• 9:42
  to
• 9:42
  know,
• 9:42
  is
• 9:43
  there
• 9:43
  anything
• 9:43
  to
• 9:43
  watch?
• 9:43
  And
• 9:44
  I
• 9:44
  say,
• 9:44
  two
• 9:44
  weeks.
• 9:44
  Some
• 9:45
  Slow
• 9:45
  Horses
• 9:45
  is
• 9:46
  coming
• 9:46
  back,
• 9:46
  so
• 9:46
  you
• 9:46
  can
• 9:46
  watch
• 9:47
  that.
• 9:47
  I
• 9:47
  just
• 9:47
  flew
• 9:48
  five,
• 9:48
  five
• 9:48
  and
• 9:49
  a
• 9:49
  half
• 9:49
  hours
• 9:49
  from
• 9:50
  L.
• 9:50
  A
• 9:50
  to
• 9:51
  Baltimore
• 9:52
  and
• 9:52
  there
• 9:53
  was
• 9:53
  a
• 9:53
  selection
• 9:53
  of
• 9:54
  film,
• 9:55
  and
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  swear
• 9:55
  to
• 9:56
  God,
• 9:56
  David,
• 9:56
  I
• 9:57
  could
• 9:57
  not
• 9:57
  recognize
• 9:59
  maybe
• 10:00
  a
• 10:00
  handful
• 10:00
  of
• 10:01
  films
• 10:01
  I
• 10:01
  recognized.
• 10:02
  Luckily,
• 10:03
  I
• 10:03
  stumbled
• 10:04
  across
• 10:05
  the
• 10:06
  Penguin
• 10:07
  Lessons
• 10:08
  with
• 10:08
  Coogan,
• 10:09
  Steve
• 10:09
  Coogan.
• 10:10
  I
• 10:10
  don't
• 10:11
  know
• 10:11
  if
• 10:11
  you
• 10:11
  saw
• 10:11
  that
• 10:11
  picture,
• 10:12
  but
• 10:12
  you
• 10:13
  would
• 10:13
  love
• 10:13
  it.
• 10:14
  It's
• 10:14
  brilliantly
• 10:15
  made
• 10:16
  and
• 10:16
  yet
• 10:16
  I'd
• 10:17
  never
• 10:17
  heard
• 10:17
  of
• 10:17
  it,
• 10:18
  and
• 10:18
  it
• 10:18
  was
• 10:18
  just
• 10:19
  dumb
• 10:19
  luck
• 10:19
  that
• 10:20
  I
• 10:20
  caught
• 10:20
  something.
• 10:21
  But
• 10:21
  all
• 10:21
  of
• 10:21
  these
• 10:22
  different
• 10:22
  movies.
• 10:23
  Where's
• 10:23
  my
• 10:23
  hat?
• 10:24
  Screwballs.
• 10:25
  Screwball
• 10:26
  three,
• 10:27
  Although
• 10:27
  I've
• 10:27
  never
• 10:27
  heard
• 10:28
  of
• 10:28
  these
• 10:28
  things.
• 10:28
  You're
• 10:29
  listening
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  the
• 10:29
  Sexy
• 10:29
  Boomer
• 10:29
  show.
• 10:30
  And
• 10:30
  our
• 10:30
  guest
• 10:30
  today
• 10:30
  is
• 10:30
  David
• 10:31
  Poland,
• 10:31
  industry
• 10:32
  entertainment
• 10:33
  veteran
• 10:34
  who
• 10:35
  knows
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  film
• 10:35
  business
• 10:36
  upside
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  down,
• 10:36
  and
• 10:37
  does.
• 10:37
  He's
• 10:37
  the
• 10:37
  host
• 10:37
  of
• 10:38
  David
• 10:38
  Reads
• 10:38
  the
• 10:38
  Trades
• 10:39
  and
• 10:40
  the
• 10:40
  Hot
• 10:41
  button
• 10:41
  on
• 10:42
  Substack.
• 10:43
  And
• 10:43
  you've
• 10:43
  been
• 10:43
  in
• 10:44
  this
• 10:44
  business
• 10:44
  forever
• 10:45
  and
• 10:45
  ever.
• 10:45
  So
• 10:45
  we've
• 10:45
  asked
• 10:46
  you
• 10:46
  to
• 10:46
  come
• 10:46
  in
• 10:46
  to
• 10:46
  lend
• 10:47
  us
• 10:47
  a
• 10:47
  perspective.
• 10:47
  Almost
• 10:48
  as
• 10:48
  long
• 10:48
  as
• 10:48
  you
• 10:48
  guys.
• 10:48
  Yeah.
• 10:49
  Talking
• 10:49
  about
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  switch
• 10:50
  over
• 10:51
  from
• 10:51
  VHS
• 10:52
  and.
• 10:52
  And
• 10:52
  beta.
• 10:54
  Wow.
• 10:54
  Beta
• 10:55
  and
• 10:55
  VHS
• 10:56
  and
• 10:56
  DVDs.
• 10:57
  That
• 10:57
  all
• 10:57
  meant
• 10:58
  residuals
• 10:59
  to
• 10:59
  us,
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  working
• 11:00
  actors,
• 11:01
  and
• 11:01
  especially
• 11:02
  to
• 11:02
  me
• 11:02
  as
• 11:03
  a
• 11:03
  voiceover
• 11:03
  artist
• 11:04
  because
• 11:04
  I've
• 11:04
  added
• 11:05
  different
• 11:05
  voices
• 11:06
  to
• 11:06
  hundreds
• 11:06
  of
• 11:07
  movies,
• 11:07
  and
• 11:08
  I
• 11:08
  still
• 11:08
  get
• 11:08
  little
• 11:09
  pieces
• 11:09
  of
• 11:10
  money
• 11:10
  from
• 11:11
  people
• 11:12
  buying
• 11:12
  them
• 11:13
  or
• 11:13
  showing
• 11:13
  them,
• 11:14
  and
• 11:14
  it
• 11:14
  just
• 11:14
  ain't
• 11:15
  there
• 11:15
  anymore.
• 11:15
  It's
• 11:16
  really
• 11:16
  hard
• 11:16
  to
• 11:16
  track
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  streaming
• 11:18
  of
• 11:18
  films
• 11:19
  and
• 11:19
  things.
• 11:20
  The
• 11:20
  amount
• 11:20
  of
• 11:20
  money
• 11:20
  you
• 11:20
  get
• 11:21
  from.
• 11:21
  Them
• 11:21
  as
• 11:21
  an
• 11:21
  artist
• 11:22
  is
• 11:22
  almost
• 11:22
  nothing.
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  was
• 11:23
  good
• 11:23
  friends
• 11:23
  with
• 11:24
  the
• 11:24
  late
• 11:24
  great
• 11:24
  Scott
• 11:24
  Wilson,
• 11:25
  who
• 11:25
  was
• 11:26
  an
• 11:26
  activist
• 11:26
  in
• 11:26
  SAG
• 11:27
  a
• 11:27
  lot
• 11:27
  of
• 11:27
  the
• 11:27
  time.
• 11:27
  And
• 11:28
  I
• 11:28
  remember
• 11:29
  they
• 11:29
  didn't
• 11:29
  end
• 11:29
  up
• 11:29
  having
• 11:30
  a
• 11:30
  strike.
• 11:30
  They
• 11:30
  wanted
• 11:30
  to
• 11:31
  have
• 11:31
  a
• 11:31
  strike
• 11:31
  at
• 11:31
  one
• 11:31
  point
• 11:32
  because
• 11:32
  the
• 11:33
  amount
• 11:33
  of
• 11:33
  money
• 11:33
  that
• 11:34
  you
• 11:34
  were
• 11:34
  being
• 11:34
  paid,
• 11:35
  a
• 11:35
  flat
• 11:35
  annual
• 11:35
  rate
• 11:35
  essentially,
• 11:36
  for
• 11:37
  things
• 11:37
  being
• 11:37
  pushed
• 11:38
  to
• 11:38
  streaming.
• 11:39
  And
• 11:39
  so
• 11:39
  they
• 11:39
  were
• 11:39
  avoiding
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  revenue
• 11:40
  that
• 11:41
  a
• 11:41
  lot
• 11:41
  of
• 11:41
  people
• 11:41
  were
• 11:41
  making.
• 11:42
  Besides
• 11:43
  voice
• 11:43
  actors,
• 11:43
  there
• 11:43
  were
• 11:43
  some
• 11:44
  voice
• 11:44
  actors
• 11:45
  were
• 11:45
  making
• 11:45
  with
• 11:45
  reruns
• 11:46
  on
• 11:46
  network
• 11:46
  television.
• 11:47
  Network
• 11:47
  television
• 11:48
  just
• 11:48
  stopped
• 11:48
  doing
• 11:49
  reruns
• 11:49
  that's
• 11:49
  right,
• 11:49
  because
• 11:50
  it
• 11:50
  costs
• 11:50
  a
• 11:50
  lot
• 11:50
  more
• 11:50
  to
• 11:51
  put
• 11:51
  it
• 11:51
  on
• 11:51
  broadcast
• 11:52
  as
• 11:52
  a
• 11:52
  second
• 11:53
  time,
• 11:53
  you
• 11:54
  got
• 11:54
  paid
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  same
• 11:54
  as
• 11:55
  you
• 11:55
  got
• 11:55
  paid
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  first
• 11:55
  time,
• 11:56
  and
• 11:56
  then
• 11:56
  the
• 11:56
  third
• 11:57
  time
• 11:57
  you
• 11:57
  got
• 11:57
  paid
• 11:58
  half
• 11:58
  of
• 11:58
  it
• 11:58
  or
• 11:58
  whatever.
• 11:59
  Whereas
• 11:59
  on
• 11:59
  streaming,
• 12:00
  they
• 12:00
  were
• 12:00
  paying
• 12:00
  $125
• 12:01
  or
• 12:01
  $150
• 12:02
  for
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  year
• 12:03
  to
• 12:03
  run
• 12:03
  it
• 12:03
  as
• 12:04
  many
• 12:04
  times
• 12:04
  as
• 12:04
  it
• 12:04
  ran.
• 12:05
  There
• 12:05
  was
• 12:05
  no.
• 12:05
  No
• 12:06
  limitation
• 12:06
  on
• 12:06
  it.
• 12:07
  It's
• 12:07
  gotten
• 12:07
  a
• 12:07
  little
• 12:07
  better
• 12:08
  since
• 12:08
  then,
• 12:08
  but
• 12:08
  not
• 12:09
  a
• 12:09
  lot.
• 12:10
  It's
• 12:10
  still
• 12:10
  not
• 12:10
  real
• 12:11
  money.
• 12:11
  Not
• 12:11
  a
• 12:11
  lot.
• 12:12
  Let's
• 12:12
  go
• 12:12
  back,
• 12:12
  like
• 12:12
  20
• 12:13
  years.
• 12:13
  Yeah.
• 12:14
  Even
• 12:14
  25
• 12:14
  years
• 12:15
  when
• 12:15
  there
• 12:16
  was
• 12:16
  a
• 12:16
  model
• 12:17
  and
• 12:17
  it
• 12:17
  was
• 12:17
  fairly
• 12:17
  consistent
• 12:18
  in
• 12:19
  terms
• 12:19
  of
• 12:19
  people
• 12:19
  went
• 12:20
  to
• 12:20
  the
• 12:20
  movies
• 12:21
  on
• 12:21
  a
• 12:21
  regular
• 12:21
  basis.
• 12:22
  I
• 12:22
  know
• 12:22
  Covid
• 12:23
  had
• 12:23
  a
• 12:23
  big
• 12:23
  impact,
• 12:23
  obviously,
• 12:24
  on
• 12:24
  changing
• 12:25
  habits,
• 12:25
  as
• 12:26
  did
• 12:26
  streaming.
• 12:27
  And
• 12:28
  film
• 12:28
  festivals
• 12:28
  had
• 12:29
  their
• 12:29
  heyday.
• 12:30
  Sundance
• 12:31
  was
• 12:31
  huge.
• 12:32
  Then,
• 12:32
  of
• 12:32
  course,
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  award
• 12:33
  shows,
• 12:33
  which
• 12:34
  were
• 12:34
  huge
• 12:34
  moneymakers
• 12:35
  for
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  studios.
• 12:36
  The
• 12:36
  Golden
• 12:37
  Globes,
• 12:37
  which
• 12:37
  I
• 12:38
  think
• 12:38
  you
• 12:38
  took
• 12:38
  to
• 12:38
  task,
• 12:39
  Hate
• 12:39
  Golden
• 12:39
  Globes.
• 12:40
  Yeah.
• 12:40
  Well,
• 12:40
  we
• 12:41
  always
• 12:41
  knew
• 12:41
  that
• 12:41
  was
• 12:41
  a
• 12:41
  bit
• 12:42
  of
• 12:42
  a
• 12:42
  sellout.
• 12:42
  Always
• 12:42
  a
• 12:43
  scam,
• 12:43
  but
• 12:44
  now
• 12:44
  a
• 12:44
  real
• 12:44
  scam,
• 12:44
  overtly.
• 12:45
  Let's
• 12:45
  come
• 12:45
  back
• 12:46
  to
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  present
• 12:46
  day
• 12:47
  now.
• 12:47
  Let's
• 12:47
  start
• 12:48
  with
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  film
• 12:48
  festivals.
• 12:48
  How
• 12:49
  relevant
• 12:49
  are
• 12:49
  the
• 12:50
  film
• 12:50
  festivals?
• 12:50
  Film
• 12:51
  festivals
• 12:51
  are
• 12:51
  dying
• 12:52
  pretty
• 12:52
  much
• 12:52
  left
• 12:52
  and
• 12:53
  right.
• 12:53
  They've
• 12:53
  been
• 12:53
  reduced
• 12:54
  in
• 12:54
  size
• 12:54
  and
• 12:54
  length
• 12:55
  and
• 12:55
  amount
• 12:55
  of
• 12:56
  films,
• 12:56
  and
• 12:56
  they're
• 12:56
  all
• 12:56
  having
• 12:57
  finance.
• 12:57
  All
• 12:57
  the
• 12:57
  major
• 12:57
  ones
• 12:58
  are
• 12:58
  having
• 12:58
  financial
• 12:58
  troubles,
• 12:59
  Every
• 12:59
  single
• 12:59
  one
• 12:59
  of
• 12:59
  them,
• 13:00
  unfortunately.
• 13:01
  And
• 13:01
  I
• 13:01
  think
• 13:01
  the
• 13:02
  film
• 13:02
  festivals
• 13:02
  are
• 13:02
  going
• 13:02
  to
• 13:02
  have
• 13:02
  to
• 13:03
  come
• 13:03
  back
• 13:03
  to
• 13:03
  the
• 13:04
  point
• 13:04
  where
• 13:04
  they
• 13:04
  are
• 13:04
  really
• 13:05
  local
• 13:06
  events.
• 13:06
  So
• 13:06
  the
• 13:06
  New
• 13:06
  York
• 13:07
  Film
• 13:07
  Festival
• 13:07
  is
• 13:07
  actually
• 13:08
  one
• 13:08
  of
• 13:08
  the
• 13:08
  healthy
• 13:08
  ones
• 13:09
  with
• 13:09
  a
• 13:09
  few
• 13:09
  healthy
• 13:09
  ones
• 13:10
  of
• 13:10
  any
• 13:10
  size,
• 13:10
  because
• 13:11
  they're
• 13:11
  really
• 13:12
  a
• 13:12
  very
• 13:12
  small,
• 13:13
  very
• 13:13
  specific
• 13:13
  contingent
• 13:14
  in
• 13:14
  New
• 13:14
  York
• 13:14
  City.
• 13:15
  And
• 13:15
  a
• 13:15
  lot
• 13:15
  of
• 13:16
  moneyed
• 13:16
  people
• 13:16
  who
• 13:16
  are
• 13:17
  part
• 13:17
  of
• 13:17
  that.
• 13:18
  Something
• 13:18
  like
• 13:18
  Mill
• 13:18
  Valley,
• 13:19
  which
• 13:19
  is
• 13:19
  up
• 13:19
  in
• 13:19
  Northern
• 13:20
  California,
• 13:20
  is
• 13:21
  a
• 13:21
  set
• 13:22
  group
• 13:22
  of
• 13:22
  people
• 13:22
  who
• 13:22
  have
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  lot
• 13:23
  of
• 13:23
  money
• 13:23
  who
• 13:24
  will
• 13:24
  support
• 13:24
  that
• 13:25
  festival.
• 13:25
  Same
• 13:25
  with
• 13:26
  Santa
• 13:26
  Barbara
• 13:26
  International
• 13:27
  Film
• 13:27
  Festival.
• 13:27
  Santa
• 13:28
  Barbara
• 13:28
  International
• 13:28
  film
• 13:28
  festival
• 13:29
  transformed
• 13:30
  15
• 13:30
  years
• 13:31
  ago,
• 13:31
  20
• 13:31
  years
• 13:31
  ago,
• 13:32
  because
• 13:32
  it
• 13:32
  became
• 13:32
  about
• 13:32
  the
• 13:33
  award
• 13:33
  season
• 13:33
  stuff
• 13:34
  and
• 13:34
  less
• 13:34
  about
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  festival.
• 13:35
  And
• 13:35
  I
• 13:35
  know
• 13:35
  that
• 13:35
  Roger
• 13:36
  Durling,
• 13:36
  who
• 13:36
  runs
• 13:37
  that
• 13:37
  festival,
• 13:38
  passionately
• 13:38
  loves
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  film
• 13:39
  festival
• 13:39
  side
• 13:40
  of
• 13:40
  it,
• 13:40
  but
• 13:40
  seven
• 13:40
  people
• 13:41
  go
• 13:41
  to
• 13:41
  see
• 13:41
  it.
• 13:42
  The
• 13:42
  truth
• 13:42
  is,
• 13:42
  that's
• 13:42
  become
• 13:43
  all
• 13:43
  about
• 13:44
  talent
• 13:44
  showing
• 13:45
  up
• 13:45
  for
• 13:45
  Oscar
• 13:45
  season
• 13:46
  and
• 13:46
  doing
• 13:47
  the,
• 13:47
  you
• 13:47
  know,
• 13:47
  half
• 13:47
  a
• 13:47
  dozen
• 13:48
  events
• 13:48
  or
• 13:48
  10
• 13:48
  events
• 13:49
  or
• 13:49
  whatever
• 13:49
  they
• 13:49
  have
• 13:49
  up
• 13:50
  there
• 13:50
  during
• 13:50
  that
• 13:51
  one
• 13:51
  week
• 13:51
  period.
• 13:51
  And
• 13:52
  that's
• 13:52
  all
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  attention
• 13:53
  they
• 13:53
  get,
• 13:53
  and
• 13:54
  that
• 13:54
  funds
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  film
• 13:55
  festival.
• 13:56
  But
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  film
• 13:56
  festival
• 13:57
  isn't
• 13:57
  that
• 13:57
  popular,
• 13:58
  and
• 13:58
  it
• 13:58
  isn't
• 13:58
  that
• 13:58
  important.
• 13:59
  What
• 13:59
  about
• 14:00
  the
• 14:00
  Markets.
• 14:00
  To
• 14:01
  some
• 14:01
  people.
• 14:01
  I'm
• 14:01
  a
• 14:01
  little
• 14:02
  out
• 14:02
  of
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  range
• 14:02
  on
• 14:02
  this.
• 14:03
  I
• 14:03
  think
• 14:03
  I'm
• 14:03
  completely
• 14:04
  right.
• 14:04
  There
• 14:04
  really
• 14:04
  is
• 14:05
  no
• 14:05
  demand
• 14:05
  for
• 14:05
  markets
• 14:06
  anymore.
• 14:06
  The
• 14:07
  whole
• 14:07
  idea
• 14:07
  of
• 14:07
  sun
• 14:08
  Sundance
• 14:08
  is
• 14:09
  a
• 14:09
  beautiful
• 14:09
  festival.
• 14:09
  It's
• 14:10
  been
• 14:10
  a
• 14:10
  beautiful
• 14:10
  festival,
• 14:11
  but
• 14:11
  the
• 14:12
  idea
• 14:12
  that
• 14:12
  it's
• 14:12
  a
• 14:12
  marketplace
• 14:13
  because
• 14:14
  they
• 14:14
  have
• 14:14
  original
• 14:14
  content
• 14:15
  is
• 14:15
  great.
• 14:15
  Except
• 14:16
  that
• 14:16
  the
• 14:16
  idea
• 14:16
  of
• 14:16
  going
• 14:17
  up.
• 14:17
  To
• 14:17
  the
• 14:17
  mountains,
• 14:18
  whether
• 14:18
  it's
• 14:18
  there
• 14:18
  in.
• 14:19
  Boulder,
• 14:19
  which
• 14:19
  it'll
• 14:20
  be
• 14:20
  after
• 14:20
  next
• 14:20
  year,
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  go
• 14:21
  see
• 14:22
  movies
• 14:22
  in
• 14:22
  a
• 14:22
  room
• 14:23
  with
• 14:23
  500
• 14:23
  people,
• 14:24
  and
• 14:24
  the
• 14:24
  people
• 14:24
  go
• 14:25
  crazy.
• 14:25
  And
• 14:26
  then
• 14:26
  three
• 14:26
  studios
• 14:27
  will
• 14:27
  say,
• 14:27
  I
• 14:27
  need
• 14:27
  that
• 14:28
  movie.
• 14:28
  And
• 14:28
  they'll
• 14:28
  fight
• 14:29
  over
• 14:29
  how
• 14:29
  much
• 14:29
  they're
• 14:29
  going
• 14:30
  to
• 14:30
  spend.
• 14:30
  But
• 14:30
  really,
• 14:30
  at
• 14:31
  this
• 14:31
  point,
• 14:32
  nobody
• 14:32
  goes.
• 14:33
  They've
• 14:33
  either
• 14:33
  already
• 14:34
  bought
• 14:34
  it
• 14:34
  or
• 14:34
  they're
• 14:35
  buying
• 14:35
  it.
• 14:35
  They're
• 14:35
  watching
• 14:36
  it
• 14:36
  on
• 14:36
  their.
• 14:36
  In
• 14:36
  their
• 14:37
  studio,
• 14:37
  in
• 14:37
  Netflix,
• 14:38
  on
• 14:39
  Vine.
• 14:39
  But
• 14:39
  that
• 14:39
  was.
• 14:40
  Whatever.
• 14:40
  That
• 14:40
  was
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  way
• 14:41
  it
• 14:41
  was
• 14:41
  back
• 14:41
  then,
• 14:41
  too.
• 14:42
  Fifteen
• 14:43
  years,
• 14:43
  there
• 14:43
  would
• 14:43
  be,
• 14:44
  like,
• 14:44
  screenings
• 14:45
  like
• 14:45
  there
• 14:45
  are
• 14:45
  at
• 14:45
  Cannes
• 14:46
  still.
• 14:46
  There
• 14:47
  would
• 14:47
  be
• 14:47
  screenings
• 14:48
  during
• 14:48
  Toronto.
• 14:49
  There'd
• 14:49
  be
• 14:49
  a
• 14:49
  bunch
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  private
• 14:50
  screenings
• 14:50
  where
• 14:50
  the
• 14:51
  buyers.
• 14:51
  Where
• 14:51
  there'd
• 14:52
  be
• 14:52
  five
• 14:52
  different
• 14:52
  companies
• 14:52
  or.
• 14:53
  Eight
• 14:53
  different
• 14:53
  companies
• 14:54
  seeing
• 14:54
  movies
• 14:54
  on
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  big
• 14:55
  screen
• 14:55
  for
• 14:55
  the
• 14:55
  first
• 14:56
  time.
• 14:56
  The
• 14:56
  need
• 14:57
  for
• 14:57
  that,
• 14:57
  the
• 14:57
  technical
• 14:58
  need
• 14:58
  for
• 14:58
  that
• 14:59
  doesn't
• 14:59
  exist
• 14:59
  anymore.
• 15:00
  There's
• 15:00
  no
• 15:00
  reason
• 15:00
  to
• 15:00
  go
• 15:01
  up
• 15:01
  into
• 15:01
  the
• 15:01
  mountain
• 15:01
  anymore.
• 15:02
  And
• 15:03
  sadly,
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  truth
• 15:04
  of
• 15:04
  the
• 15:05
  Sundance
• 15:05
  movie
• 15:05
  is
• 15:05
  that
• 15:06
  two
• 15:06
  movies
• 15:06
  end
• 15:06
  up.
• 15:07
  Emerging
• 15:07
  as
• 15:08
  remembered
• 15:08
  from
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  festival
• 15:09
  each
• 15:09
  year,
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  the
• 15:10
  rest
• 15:10
  of
• 15:10
  them
• 15:10
  are
• 15:10
  just
• 15:10
  lost.
• 15:11
  Lost.
• 15:11
  They
• 15:12
  end
• 15:12
  up
• 15:12
  on
• 15:12
  United
• 15:13
  Airlines.
• 15:14
  Exactly.
• 15:14
  But
• 15:14
  it's
• 15:15
  been.
• 15:16
  They
• 15:16
  end
• 15:16
  up
• 15:16
  on
• 15:16
  Peacock
• 15:17
  in
• 15:17
  April,
• 15:18
  just
• 15:18
  be
• 15:19
  floating
• 15:19
  out
• 15:19
  there.
• 15:19
  And
• 15:20
  they
• 15:20
  may
• 15:20
  be
• 15:20
  great
• 15:21
  or
• 15:21
  they.
• 15:21
  May
• 15:21
  be
• 15:22
  special
• 15:22
  in
• 15:22
  some
• 15:22
  way.
• 15:23
  The
• 15:23
  documentary
• 15:24
  film
• 15:24
  market
• 15:24
  has
• 15:24
  been
• 15:25
  dead.
• 15:26
  The
• 15:26
  theatrical
• 15:26
  market
• 15:27
  for
• 15:27
  documentary
• 15:28
  has
• 15:28
  always
• 15:29
  been
• 15:29
  up
• 15:29
  and
• 15:29
  down,
• 15:30
  but
• 15:30
  it's
• 15:30
  not
• 15:30
  what
• 15:30
  it
• 15:30
  was.
• 15:31
  There
• 15:31
  was
• 15:31
  a
• 15:31
  period
• 15:32
  where
• 15:32
  there
• 15:32
  were.
• 15:32
  A
• 15:32
  bunch
• 15:32
  of
• 15:33
  documentaries
• 15:33
  that
• 15:33
  were
• 15:33
  doing
• 15:33
  $10
• 15:34
  million
• 15:34
  in
• 15:34
  theatrical.
• 15:35
  We
• 15:35
  have
• 15:35
  a
• 15:36
  new
• 15:36
  thing
• 15:36
  with
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  stunting
• 15:37
  going
• 15:37
  on
• 15:38
  that's
• 15:38
  been
• 15:38
  going
• 15:38
  on
• 15:38
  this
• 15:38
  month
• 15:39
  because
• 15:39
  the
• 15:39
  studios
• 15:40
  are
• 15:40
  not
• 15:40
  making
• 15:40
  enough
• 15:40
  movies
• 15:41
  for
• 15:41
  release.
• 15:42
  And
• 15:42
  you
• 15:42
  have
• 15:42
  movies
• 15:43
  like
• 15:43
  Jaws.
• 15:44
  50Th
• 15:44
  anniversary
• 15:45
  screening
• 15:46
  was
• 15:46
  one
• 15:46
  weekend,
• 15:47
  and
• 15:47
  IMAX
• 15:47
  did
• 15:48
  $10
• 15:48
  million.
• 15:49
  What
• 15:49
  was
• 15:50
  it
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  recent
• 15:50
  anime
• 15:51
  went
• 15:51
  on
• 15:52
  and
• 15:52
  did?
• 15:52
  It
• 15:52
  had
• 15:52
  a
• 15:52
  $70
• 15:53
  million
• 15:53
  weekend
• 15:54
  two
• 15:54
  weekends
• 15:55
  ago
• 15:55
  from
• 15:56
  Crunchyroll.
• 15:57
  And
• 15:57
  the
• 15:57
  last
• 15:57
  time
• 15:57
  they
• 15:58
  did
• 15:58
  it,
• 15:58
  it
• 15:58
  did
• 15:58
  about
• 15:58
  $10
• 15:59
  million.
• 15:59
  This
• 15:59
  time
• 16:00
  it
• 16:00
  did
• 16:00
  70.
• 16:01
  And
• 16:01
  now
• 16:01
  we're
• 16:01
  going
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  have
• 16:02
  another
• 16:02
  Taylor
• 16:03
  Swift
• 16:03
  movie
• 16:03
  in
• 16:04
  October
• 16:04
  at
• 16:04
  AMC
• 16:05
  is
• 16:05
  around
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  country.
• 16:06
  So
• 16:06
  they're
• 16:06
  filling
• 16:07
  the
• 16:07
  holes
• 16:07
  that
• 16:08
  are
• 16:08
  being
• 16:08
  left
• 16:08
  by
• 16:08
  the
• 16:08
  studios.
• 16:09
  The
• 16:09
  problem
• 16:09
  is
• 16:10
  the
• 16:10
  studios
• 16:10
  really
• 16:11
  aren't
• 16:11
  making
• 16:11
  enough
• 16:11
  movies.
• 16:12
  How
• 16:12
  many
• 16:12
  movies
• 16:13
  are
• 16:13
  Being
• 16:13
  made
• 16:13
  a
• 16:13
  year
• 16:13
  now.
• 16:14
  It
• 16:14
  keeps
• 16:14
  on
• 16:14
  shifting
• 16:15
  around.
• 16:16
  It's
• 16:16
  somewhere
• 16:16
  around
• 16:16
  the
• 16:17
  75
• 16:17
  or
• 16:17
  so
• 16:18
  that
• 16:18
  are
• 16:18
  getting
• 16:18
  released
• 16:18
  by
• 16:18
  the
• 16:19
  majors
• 16:19
  now.
• 16:19
  It's
• 16:20
  very
• 16:20
  small
• 16:20
  number
• 16:21
  75
• 16:21
  a
• 16:21
  year.
• 16:22
  There
• 16:22
  are
• 16:22
  only
• 16:22
  five
• 16:22
  majors
• 16:23
  left.
• 16:23
  Didn't
• 16:24
  it
• 16:24
  used
• 16:24
  to
• 16:24
  be
• 16:24
  like
• 16:24
  2,
• 16:24
  300,
• 16:25
  500
• 16:25
  movies
• 16:26
  a
• 16:26
  year?
• 16:26
  There
• 16:26
  still
• 16:27
  are
• 16:27
  3
• 16:27
  or
• 16:27
  400
• 16:28
  movies,
• 16:28
  500
• 16:28
  movies
• 16:29
  a
• 16:29
  year,
• 16:29
  but
• 16:29
  they're
• 16:29
  not
• 16:29
  by
• 16:30
  the
• 16:30
  majors.
• 16:30
  So
• 16:31
  the
• 16:31
  majors
• 16:31
  numbers
• 16:31
  gone
• 16:32
  down.
• 16:33
  A
• 16:33
  fascinating
• 16:33
  phenomenon
• 16:34
  actually
• 16:34
  maybe
• 16:35
  to
• 16:35
  me
• 16:35
  at
• 16:35
  least,
• 16:36
  is
• 16:36
  that
• 16:36
  you
• 16:37
  now
• 16:37
  see
• 16:37
  a
• 16:37
  bunch
• 16:37
  of
• 16:37
  a
• 16:38
  24
• 16:38
  neon
• 16:39
  and
• 16:39
  small
• 16:39
  distributor
• 16:40
  movies
• 16:41
  on
• 16:41
  2000
• 16:41
  screens.
• 16:42
  Because
• 16:43
  there's
• 16:43
  not
• 16:43
  enough
• 16:43
  being
• 16:44
  filled
• 16:44
  up
• 16:44
  the
• 16:45
  majors
• 16:45
  anymore.
• 16:45
  So
• 16:46
  all
• 16:46
  of
• 16:46
  a
• 16:46
  sudden
• 16:46
  these
• 16:46
  little
• 16:46
  tiny
• 16:47
  indie
• 16:47
  movies
• 16:47
  that
• 16:47
  don't
• 16:48
  have
• 16:48
  marketing
• 16:48
  budgets
• 16:49
  to
• 16:49
  support
• 16:49
  a
• 16:49
  2000
• 16:50
  screen
• 16:50
  release
• 16:51
  are
• 16:51
  being
• 16:51
  released
• 16:52
  on
• 16:52
  2000
• 16:52
  screens.
• 16:53
  They're
• 16:53
  doing
• 16:53
  $2
• 16:53
  million
• 16:54
  and
• 16:54
  people
• 16:54
  are
• 16:55
  like,
• 16:55
  why
• 16:55
  isn't
• 16:55
  it
• 16:55
  doing
• 16:56
  better?
• 16:56
  There's
• 16:57
  no
• 16:57
  marketing
• 16:57
  money.
• 16:57
  The
• 16:58
  marketing
• 16:58
  money
• 16:58
  was
• 16:58
  very
• 16:59
  rich
• 16:59
  back
• 16:59
  in
• 16:59
  the
• 16:59
  90s
• 17:00
  and
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  early
• 17:00
  aughts.
• 17:01
  Film
• 17:02
  marketing
• 17:02
  was
• 17:03
  relatively
• 17:04
  huge.
• 17:04
  Yes.
• 17:05
  And
• 17:05
  it
• 17:05
  all
• 17:06
  got
• 17:06
  to
• 17:06
  the
• 17:06
  point
• 17:06
  where
• 17:06
  it
• 17:07
  rested
• 17:07
  on
• 17:08
  Thursday
• 17:08
  and
• 17:08
  Friday
• 17:09
  night
• 17:09
  of
• 17:10
  opening
• 17:10
  weekend.
• 17:11
  It
• 17:11
  was
• 17:11
  really
• 17:12
  critical
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  open
• 17:13
  big.
• 17:13
  It's
• 17:13
  still
• 17:14
  critical.
• 17:14
  But
• 17:14
  it
• 17:15
  was
• 17:15
  always
• 17:15
  an
• 17:15
  illusion.
• 17:15
  There
• 17:16
  was
• 17:16
  a
• 17:16
  period
• 17:16
  25
• 17:17
  years
• 17:17
  ago
• 17:17
  where
• 17:18
  movies
• 17:18
  played
• 17:19
  for
• 17:19
  six
• 17:19
  months
• 17:19
  in
• 17:19
  a
• 17:19
  theater.
• 17:20
  Star
• 17:20
  wars
• 17:21
  played
• 17:21
  for
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  year
• 17:21
  and
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  half
• 17:21
  in
• 17:22
  first
• 17:22
  run.
• 17:23
  Jurassic
• 17:23
  park
• 17:23
  played
• 17:24
  for
• 17:24
  a
• 17:24
  year
• 17:24
  in
• 17:24
  first
• 17:25
  run.
• 17:25
  The
• 17:26
  world
• 17:26
  was
• 17:26
  different.
• 17:27
  But
• 17:27
  opening
• 17:28
  weekend
• 17:28
  still
• 17:28
  matters.
• 17:29
  But
• 17:29
  you
• 17:30
  can
• 17:30
  over
• 17:30
  to
• 17:30
  some
• 17:31
  degree,
• 17:31
  you
• 17:31
  can
• 17:31
  overcome
• 17:32
  it.
• 17:32
  It's
• 17:32
  really
• 17:32
  just
• 17:32
  a
• 17:32
  matter
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  perspective.
• 17:34
  And
• 17:34
  we've
• 17:35
  lost.
• 17:35
  The
• 17:35
  media
• 17:36
  on
• 17:36
  my
• 17:36
  side
• 17:36
  of
• 17:36
  it
• 17:37
  has
• 17:37
  really
• 17:37
  lost
• 17:38
  perspective
• 17:38
  on
• 17:38
  how
• 17:38
  to
• 17:39
  tell
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  story
• 17:39
  of
• 17:40
  what's
• 17:40
  happening.
• 17:40
  But
• 17:41
  isn't
• 17:41
  that
• 17:41
  part
• 17:41
  of
• 17:41
  the
• 17:42
  loss
• 17:42
  of
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  collective
• 17:43
  experience?
• 17:43
  You
• 17:43
  would
• 17:44
  have
• 17:44
  a
• 17:44
  huge
• 17:45
  campaign.
• 17:46
  Beyond
• 17:47
  trailers
• 17:47
  would
• 17:47
  be
• 17:48
  television
• 17:48
  and
• 17:48
  radio
• 17:49
  campaigns
• 17:49
  for
• 17:49
  opening
• 17:50
  weekend.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:51
  it
• 17:51
  was
• 17:51
  mass
• 17:51
  audience
• 17:52
  promotion.
• 17:53
  Word
• 17:53
  of
• 17:53
  mout,
• 17:54
  word
• 17:55
  of
• 17:55
  mouth,
• 17:55
  word
• 17:55
  of
• 17:55
  mouth.
• 17:55
  The
• 17:56
  second
• 17:56
  weekend.
• 17:56
  I
• 17:56
  guess
• 17:56
  they
• 17:57
  rest
• 17:57
  on
• 17:57
  sequels
• 17:58
  so
• 17:58
  much
• 17:58
  because
• 17:58
  you
• 17:58
  had
• 17:59
  to
• 17:59
  create
• 17:59
  an
• 17:59
  entire
• 18:01
  echo
• 18:01
  sphere
• 18:01
  of
• 18:01
  excitement
• 18:02
  over
• 18:02
  a
• 18:03
  title.
• 18:03
  And
• 18:03
  it
• 18:03
  was
• 18:03
  a
• 18:04
  lot
• 18:04
  of
• 18:04
  work.
• 18:05
  Still
• 18:05
  is.
• 18:05
  And
• 18:06
  a
• 18:06
  lot
• 18:06
  of
• 18:06
  money.
• 18:06
  It's
• 18:07
  a
• 18:07
  work.
• 18:07
  It's
• 18:07
  a
• 18:07
  lot
• 18:07
  of
• 18:07
  work
• 18:07
  to
• 18:07
  fail
• 18:08
  too.
• 18:08
  Mind
• 18:08
  you,
• 18:08
  now
• 18:08
  that
• 18:09
  nobody
• 18:09
  reads
• 18:09
  newspapers
• 18:10
  really
• 18:10
  anymore.
• 18:11
  Yeah.
• 18:11
  And
• 18:12
  nobody's
• 18:12
  watching
• 18:12
  broadcast
• 18:13
  television
• 18:13
  much
• 18:14
  anymore.
• 18:14
  That's
• 18:15
  an
• 18:15
  illusion.
• 18:15
  Also.
• 18:16
  That's
• 18:16
  good
• 18:16
  to
• 18:16
  know.
• 18:16
  They're
• 18:17
  watching
• 18:17
  football
• 18:17
  more
• 18:17
  than
• 18:17
  they're
• 18:18
  watching
• 18:18
  anything.
• 18:18
  Okay,
• 18:19
  but
• 18:19
  marketing
• 18:19
  a
• 18:20
  movie
• 18:20
  now,
• 18:20
  how
• 18:21
  are
• 18:21
  they
• 18:21
  generating
• 18:21
  excitement?
• 18:23
  They
• 18:23
  all
• 18:23
  think
• 18:24
  that
• 18:24
  social
• 18:24
  media
• 18:24
  is
• 18:25
  God,
• 18:25
  except
• 18:26
  they
• 18:26
  have
• 18:26
  no
• 18:26
  idea
• 18:26
  what
• 18:26
  they're
• 18:27
  doing
• 18:27
  or
• 18:27
  what
• 18:27
  Anything
• 18:27
  means.
• 18:28
  So
• 18:28
  it's
• 18:29
  gone
• 18:29
  from
• 18:29
  being
• 18:30
  selective
• 18:31
  television
• 18:31
  and
• 18:32
  whatever,
• 18:32
  which
• 18:32
  they
• 18:32
  still
• 18:32
  are
• 18:33
  doing,
• 18:33
  but
• 18:33
  then
• 18:34
  they're
• 18:34
  on
• 18:34
  like
• 18:34
  the
• 18:35
  hot
• 18:35
  wings
• 18:35
  show
• 18:36
  or
• 18:36
  they're
• 18:36
  doing
• 18:36
  all
• 18:37
  this
• 18:37
  crazy.
• 18:37
  Any
• 18:38
  celebrity
• 18:38
  eats
• 18:39
  hot
• 18:39
  wings.
• 18:39
  Which
• 18:40
  of
• 18:40
  course
• 18:40
  is
• 18:40
  a
• 18:40
  kind
• 18:40
  of
• 18:40
  a
• 18:40
  ripoff
• 18:41
  of
• 18:41
  Jimmy
• 18:41
  Kimmel
• 18:41
  in
• 18:42
  a
• 18:42
  way.
• 18:42
  But
• 18:42
  it's
• 18:43
  like
• 18:43
  everything
• 18:44
  is
• 18:44
  stunty.
• 18:45
  Everybody's
• 18:45
  waiting
• 18:46
  for
• 18:46
  some
• 18:46
  sort
• 18:46
  of
• 18:47
  thing
• 18:47
  to
• 18:47
  break
• 18:47
  out,
• 18:47
  but
• 18:48
  there's
• 18:48
  no
• 18:48
  indication,
• 18:49
  if
• 18:49
  you
• 18:49
  look
• 18:49
  at
• 18:49
  the
• 18:49
  numbers,
• 18:50
  that
• 18:51
  any
• 18:51
  of
• 18:51
  it
• 18:51
  actually
• 18:52
  matters.
• 18:52
  I
• 18:53
  am
• 18:53
  of
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  belief
• 18:54
  that
• 18:54
  social
• 18:54
  media
• 18:55
  stuff
• 18:55
  is
• 18:55
  good
• 18:55
  for
• 18:55
  awareness.
• 18:56
  It's
• 18:57
  critical.
• 18:57
  If
• 18:57
  you
• 18:57
  don't
• 18:57
  have
• 18:57
  awareness,
• 18:58
  it's
• 18:59
  important
• 18:59
  to
• 18:59
  do
• 18:59
  all
• 18:59
  that
• 18:59
  stuff.
• 19:00
  It's
• 19:00
  critical.
• 19:00
  But
• 19:01
  awareness
• 19:01
  is
• 19:01
  only
• 19:02
  the
• 19:02
  first
• 19:02
  step
• 19:02
  because
• 19:03
  you
• 19:03
  have
• 19:03
  to
• 19:03
  get
• 19:03
  somebody
• 19:03
  to
• 19:03
  actually
• 19:04
  leave
• 19:04
  their
• 19:04
  house
• 19:04
  and
• 19:04
  buy
• 19:04
  a
• 19:04
  ticket.
• 19:05
  A
• 19:05
  lot
• 19:06
  of
• 19:06
  the
• 19:06
  time
• 19:06
  now
• 19:06
  what
• 19:06
  we're
• 19:07
  seeing
• 19:07
  is
• 19:07
  movies
• 19:07
  that
• 19:08
  people
• 19:08
  weren't
• 19:08
  expecting
• 19:09
  people
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  leave
• 19:09
  their
• 19:09
  house
• 19:10
  and
• 19:10
  buy
• 19:10
  a
• 19:10
  ticket
• 19:11
  they're
• 19:11
  going
• 19:11
  to.
• 19:11
  And
• 19:12
  the
• 19:12
  movies
• 19:12
  they
• 19:12
  were
• 19:12
  expecting
• 19:13
  them
• 19:13
  to
• 19:13
  go
• 19:13
  to,
• 19:14
  they're
• 19:14
  not.
• 19:14
  We've
• 19:14
  had
• 19:15
  Greg
• 19:15
  Laemmle
• 19:15
  on
• 19:16
  and
• 19:16
  he's
• 19:17
  talked
• 19:17
  about
• 19:17
  the
• 19:17
  challenge
• 19:18
  that
• 19:19
  they're
• 19:19
  facing
• 19:19
  just
• 19:20
  for
• 19:20
  survival.
• 19:20
  It's
• 19:21
  pretty
• 19:21
  remarkable.
• 19:21
  We
• 19:22
  talked
• 19:22
  to
• 19:22
  him
• 19:22
  during
• 19:23
  the
• 19:23
  pandemic
• 19:24
  and
• 19:24
  when
• 19:24
  that
• 19:24
  was
• 19:25
  all
• 19:25
  going
• 19:25
  on.
• 19:25
  They
• 19:25
  don't
• 19:26
  have
• 19:26
  the
• 19:26
  advantage
• 19:26
  of
• 19:26
  the.
• 19:27
  They
• 19:27
  have,
• 19:28
  I
• 19:28
  think,
• 19:28
  three
• 19:28
  plexes,
• 19:29
  but
• 19:29
  they
• 19:29
  don't
• 19:29
  really
• 19:29
  have
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  15
• 19:31
  screens
• 19:31
  where
• 19:31
  you
• 19:32
  can
• 19:32
  play.
• 19:32
  And
• 19:32
  it's.
• 19:32
  And
• 19:33
  it
• 19:33
  really
• 19:33
  is
• 19:33
  an
• 19:33
  advantage
• 19:34
  to
• 19:34
  be
• 19:34
  able
• 19:34
  to
• 19:35
  manipulate
• 19:35
  those
• 19:35
  15
• 19:36
  screens.
• 19:37
  And
• 19:37
  that
• 19:37
  was
• 19:37
  designed
• 19:38
  and
• 19:38
  that
• 19:38
  was
• 19:38
  intentional.
• 19:38
  When
• 19:39
  the
• 19:39
  exhibitors
• 19:39
  were
• 19:39
  going
• 19:40
  out
• 19:40
  of
• 19:40
  business
• 19:40
  in
• 19:40
  the
• 19:41
  90s,
• 19:42
  they
• 19:42
  all
• 19:42
  declared
• 19:42
  bankruptcy
• 19:43
  at
• 19:43
  some
• 19:43
  point
• 19:43
  and
• 19:44
  rebuilt.
• 19:44
  And
• 19:45
  they
• 19:45
  rebuilt
• 19:45
  into
• 19:46
  these
• 19:47
  rooms
• 19:47
  with
• 19:47
  bigger
• 19:48
  screens,
• 19:48
  smaller
• 19:49
  seat
• 19:49
  counts,
• 19:50
  and
• 19:50
  that
• 19:50
  way
• 19:50
  they
• 19:51
  could
• 19:51
  expand
• 19:51
  the
• 19:51
  number
• 19:52
  of
• 19:52
  seats.
• 19:52
  So
• 19:52
  back
• 19:53
  in
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  90s
• 19:53
  used
• 19:54
  to
• 19:54
  go.
• 19:54
  And
• 19:54
  movies
• 19:54
  were
• 19:54
  sold
• 19:55
  out.
• 19:56
  When's
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  last
• 19:56
  time
• 19:57
  you
• 19:57
  saw
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  sellout
• 19:57
  of
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  movie?
• 19:58
  20
• 19:58
  years.
• 19:59
  It
• 19:59
  doesn't
• 19:59
  happen
• 19:59
  anymore
• 20:00
  because
• 20:01
  if
• 20:01
  Star
• 20:01
  wars
• 20:02
  is
• 20:02
  opening,
• 20:02
  it's
• 20:03
  on
• 20:03
  13
• 20:04
  of
• 20:04
  the
• 20:04
  15
• 20:05
  screens
• 20:05
  that
• 20:05
  night.
• 20:06
  And
• 20:06
  then
• 20:06
  they
• 20:06
  go
• 20:06
  to
• 20:06
  11,
• 20:07
  and
• 20:07
  then
• 20:07
  they
• 20:07
  go
• 20:07
  to
• 20:08
  eight,
• 20:08
  and
• 20:08
  then
• 20:08
  they
• 20:08
  go
• 20:08
  to
• 20:08
  seven.
• 20:08
  And
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  second
• 20:09
  week
• 20:09
  it's
• 20:09
  on.
• 20:09
  On
• 20:09
  six
• 20:10
  screens.
• 20:10
  And.
• 20:10
  And
• 20:11
  it's
• 20:11
  a.
• 20:11
  It's
• 20:11
  the
• 20:11
  way
• 20:11
  it
• 20:12
  works.
• 20:12
  We're
• 20:12
  speaking
• 20:13
  today
• 20:13
  with
• 20:13
  our
• 20:13
  guest,
• 20:14
  David
• 20:14
  Poland,
• 20:14
  an
• 20:15
  entertainment
• 20:15
  industry
• 20:16
  veteran,
• 20:16
  journalist,
• 20:17
  critic
• 20:18
  and
• 20:18
  author
• 20:19
  of
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  substack
• 20:20
  the
• 20:20
  Hot
• 20:20
  Button.
• 20:21
  And
• 20:21
  David
• 20:22
  reads
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  trades,
• 20:22
  which
• 20:23
  is,
• 20:23
  I
• 20:23
  gotta
• 20:24
  tell
• 20:24
  you,
• 20:24
  you
• 20:24
  gotta
• 20:24
  watch.
• 20:25
  Because
• 20:25
  David's
• 20:26
  not
• 20:26
  afraid
• 20:26
  to
• 20:26
  speak
• 20:27
  his
• 20:27
  mind.
• 20:27
  No,
• 20:28
  tells
• 20:28
  it
• 20:28
  like
• 20:28
  it
• 20:28
  is.
• 20:29
  He
• 20:29
  sounds
• 20:29
  like
• 20:29
  the
• 20:30
  guy
• 20:30
  that's
• 20:30
  been
• 20:30
  around
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  block
• 20:31
  way
• 20:31
  too
• 20:31
  many
• 20:31
  times.
• 20:32
  And
• 20:32
  when
• 20:32
  we
• 20:32
  had
• 20:32
  lunch
• 20:33
  before
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  show,
• 20:34
  I
• 20:34
  asked
• 20:34
  him
• 20:34
  about
• 20:34
  his
• 20:35
  background
• 20:35
  and
• 20:35
  he
• 20:35
  told
• 20:35
  me
• 20:36
  about
• 20:36
  his
• 20:37
  long
• 20:37
  storied
• 20:37
  career
• 20:37
  in
• 20:38
  show
• 20:38
  business,
• 20:39
  including
• 20:39
  working
• 20:39
  at
• 20:39
  Saturday
• 20:40
  Night
• 20:40
  Live
• 20:40
  and
• 20:41
  producing
• 20:41
  TV
• 20:41
  shows
• 20:42
  and
• 20:42
  the
• 20:42
  whole
• 20:42
  thing.
• 20:43
  And
• 20:43
  you
• 20:44
  had
• 20:44
  so
• 20:44
  many
• 20:45
  typical
• 20:45
  show
• 20:45
  business
• 20:46
  letdowns.
• 20:47
  Yes,
• 20:47
  many.
• 20:48
  So
• 20:48
  many
• 20:49
  in
• 20:50
  the
• 20:50
  best
• 20:50
  way
• 20:50
  possible.
• 20:51
  But
• 20:51
  you
• 20:51
  have
• 20:51
  such
• 20:52
  a
• 20:52
  wizened
• 20:52
  attitude
• 20:53
  about
• 20:53
  this
• 20:54
  business.
• 20:54
  Google.
• 20:55
  David
• 20:55
  reads
• 20:55
  the
• 20:56
  trades.
• 20:56
  And
• 20:57
  you
• 20:57
  don't
• 20:57
  have
• 20:57
  to
• 20:57
  buy
• 20:57
  the
• 20:58
  trades
• 20:58
  anymore.
• 20:58
  You
• 20:58
  can
• 20:58
  just
• 20:59
  listen
• 20:59
  to
• 20:59
  David
• 20:59
  reads.
• 20:59
  A
• 20:59
  lot
• 21:00
  of
• 21:00
  people
• 21:00
  do
• 21:00
  that.
• 21:00
  When
• 21:00
  I
• 21:00
  was
• 21:00
  18
• 21:01
  years
• 21:01
  old
• 21:01
  and.
• 21:01
  I
• 21:01
  was
• 21:01
  producing
• 21:02
  a
• 21:02
  show
• 21:02
  off
• 21:02
  Broadway
• 21:03
  and
• 21:03
  I
• 21:03
  had
• 21:03
  an
• 21:03
  actor
• 21:04
  who
• 21:04
  was.
• 21:04
  60
• 21:04
  something,
• 21:05
  he
• 21:05
  was
• 21:05
  a
• 21:05
  very
• 21:05
  nice
• 21:05
  guy.
• 21:06
  But
• 21:06
  he
• 21:06
  said
• 21:06
  to
• 21:06
  me,
• 21:07
  I
• 21:07
  can.
• 21:07
  Look
• 21:08
  into
• 21:08
  your
• 21:08
  eyes
• 21:08
  and
• 21:09
  I
• 21:09
  can
• 21:09
  see
• 21:09
  the
• 21:09
  glimmer
• 21:11
  of
• 21:11
  thought
• 21:12
  and
• 21:12
  intelligence.
• 21:12
  And
• 21:13
  then
• 21:13
  behind
• 21:13
  them
• 21:13
  I
• 21:13
  can
• 21:13
  see.
• 21:14
  Dollar
• 21:15
  signs
• 21:15
  and
• 21:15
  behind
• 21:15
  them
• 21:15
  I
• 21:16
  could
• 21:16
  see
• 21:16
  knives.
• 21:17
  And
• 21:18
  I
• 21:18
  thought,
• 21:18
  what
• 21:18
  a
• 21:18
  great
• 21:19
  compliment
• 21:19
  at
• 21:19
  18.
• 21:20
  But
• 21:20
  I've
• 21:21
  tried
• 21:21
  not
• 21:21
  to
• 21:21
  live
• 21:21
  up
• 21:21
  to
• 21:21
  it.
• 21:22
  So
• 21:22
  like
• 21:22
  Ed
• 21:23
  Asner
• 21:23
  on
• 21:23
  the
• 21:23
  Mary
• 21:23
  Tyler
• 21:24
  Moore,
• 21:24
  you've
• 21:24
  got
• 21:24
  spunk.
• 21:25
  I
• 21:25
  hate
• 21:25
  spunk.
• 21:25
  But
• 21:26
  David,
• 21:26
  I've
• 21:26
  always
• 21:26
  said
• 21:27
  that
• 21:27
  Hollywood
• 21:28
  is
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  only
• 21:28
  town
• 21:28
  where
• 21:29
  you
• 21:29
  can
• 21:29
  get
• 21:29
  stabbed
• 21:30
  in
• 21:30
  the
• 21:30
  front.
• 21:32
  Let's
• 21:32
  talk
• 21:32
  about
• 21:32
  some
• 21:32
  of
• 21:33
  the
• 21:33
  highlights
• 21:33
  because
• 21:33
  we
• 21:33
  still
• 21:34
  love
• 21:34
  movies.
• 21:35
  Yes.
• 21:35
  And
• 21:35
  movies
• 21:36
  do
• 21:36
  I.
• 21:36
  And
• 21:37
  the
• 21:37
  moviegoing
• 21:37
  experience
• 21:38
  is
• 21:39
  still
• 21:39
  alive.
• 21:40
  It
• 21:40
  is
• 21:41
  exaggerated
• 21:42
  what
• 21:42
  it
• 21:42
  is
• 21:42
  that
• 21:43
  the
• 21:43
  media
• 21:43
  again
• 21:44
  has
• 21:44
  become
• 21:45
  obsessed
• 21:45
  with
• 21:45
  this
• 21:45
  idea
• 21:46
  of
• 21:46
  hitting
• 21:46
  the
• 21:46
  number
• 21:46
  from
• 21:47
  2019
• 21:48
  right
• 21:48
  before
• 21:49
  COVID
• 21:49
  And
• 21:49
  in
• 21:49
  fact,
• 21:50
  the
• 21:50
  business,
• 21:50
  the
• 21:51
  domestic
• 21:51
  business
• 21:51
  is
• 21:52
  still
• 21:52
  at
• 21:52
  is
• 21:53
  at
• 21:53
  nine
• 21:53
  and
• 21:53
  a
• 21:53
  half
• 21:53
  billion
• 21:54
  dollars
• 21:54
  this
• 21:54
  year.
• 21:55
  It's
• 21:55
  not
• 21:55
  $11
• 21:56
  billion,
• 21:56
  but
• 21:56
  it's
• 21:57
  over
• 21:57
  $9
• 21:57
  billion.
• 21:58
  The
• 21:58
  height
• 21:58
  of
• 21:59
  it
• 21:59
  domestically
• 21:59
  was
• 22:00
  11
• 22:01
  something.
• 22:01
  The
• 22:01
  thing
• 22:01
  is,
• 22:02
  international
• 22:03
  hasn't
• 22:03
  recovered
• 22:03
  as
• 22:03
  much
• 22:03
  as
• 22:04
  domestic,
• 22:04
  so
• 22:04
  that's
• 22:05
  an
• 22:05
  issue.
• 22:05
  But
• 22:05
  they
• 22:06
  were
• 22:06
  at
• 22:06
  $30
• 22:06
  billion
• 22:07
  or
• 22:07
  so
• 22:07
  a
• 22:07
  year
• 22:08
  in
• 22:08
  that
• 22:08
  last
• 22:08
  2018.
• 22:09
  2019.
• 22:10
  2018
• 22:10
  was
• 22:10
  the
• 22:11
  biggest
• 22:11
  year
• 22:11
  ever.
• 22:11
  Okay,
• 22:12
  so
• 22:12
  you're
• 22:12
  talking
• 22:12
  about
• 22:13
  9
• 22:13
  billion
• 22:13
  domestic.
• 22:14
  Yeah.
• 22:15
  And
• 22:15
  something.
• 22:15
  20
• 22:15
  something
• 22:16
  international.
• 22:16
  Okay,
• 22:17
  how
• 22:17
  does
• 22:17
  that
• 22:18
  compare
• 22:18
  to
• 22:18
  what's
• 22:19
  the
• 22:19
  income
• 22:19
  for
• 22:20
  Netflix?
• 22:20
  Let's
• 22:21
  say
• 22:21
  in
• 22:22
  some
• 22:22
  way,
• 22:22
  it
• 22:22
  depends
• 22:23
  what
• 22:23
  your
• 22:23
  company
• 22:23
  is.
• 22:23
  But
• 22:23
  you
• 22:23
  could
• 22:24
  be
• 22:24
  more
• 22:24
  profitable
• 22:24
  than
• 22:24
  Netflix.
• 22:25
  Netflix
• 22:26
  is
• 22:26
  an
• 22:26
  amazing
• 22:26
  company.
• 22:27
  And
• 22:27
  I
• 22:27
  always
• 22:27
  say
• 22:28
  people
• 22:28
  think
• 22:28
  I
• 22:28
  beat
• 22:29
  up
• 22:29
  Netflix.
• 22:30
  Netflix.
• 22:30
  I'm
• 22:30
  not
• 22:30
  beating
• 22:30
  up
• 22:30
  Netflix.
• 22:31
  But
• 22:31
  Netflix
• 22:31
  took
• 22:32
  a
• 22:32
  long
• 22:32
  time
• 22:32
  to
• 22:32
  get
• 22:33
  here.
• 22:33
  They
• 22:33
  got
• 22:33
  into
• 22:33
  streaming
• 22:34
  more
• 22:34
  than
• 22:34
  five
• 22:35
  years,
• 22:35
  five,
• 22:35
  six
• 22:35
  years
• 22:36
  before
• 22:36
  anybody
• 22:36
  else
• 22:36
  did.
• 22:37
  So
• 22:37
  they
• 22:37
  this
• 22:38
  whole
• 22:38
  long
• 22:38
  Runway
• 22:39
  and
• 22:39
  they
• 22:39
  just
• 22:39
  in
• 22:39
  the
• 22:40
  last
• 22:40
  three
• 22:40
  years
• 22:40
  became
• 22:41
  profitable.
• 22:41
  They
• 22:41
  were
• 22:41
  not
• 22:41
  a
• 22:42
  money
• 22:42
  making
• 22:42
  profit.
• 22:43
  Like
• 22:43
  Amazon.
• 22:43
  Like
• 22:44
  Amazon.
• 22:44
  But
• 22:45
  as
• 22:45
  it
• 22:45
  is
• 22:45
  now
• 22:45
  their
• 22:46
  revenues
• 22:46
  are
• 22:46
  somewhere
• 22:47
  around
• 22:47
  $40
• 22:47
  billion
• 22:48
  a
• 22:48
  year.
• 22:49
  Their
• 22:50
  net
• 22:50
  is
• 22:50
  somewhere
• 22:51
  around
• 22:51
  $8
• 22:51
  billion
• 22:52
  a
• 22:52
  year.
• 22:52
  So
• 22:53
  it's
• 22:53
  not
• 22:53
  terrible,
• 22:53
  but
• 22:54
  it's
• 22:54
  not
• 22:54
  extraordinary
• 22:55
  or
• 22:55
  life
• 22:56
  changing.
• 22:57
  But
• 22:57
  the
• 22:57
  stock
• 22:57
  market
• 22:57
  loves
• 22:58
  them
• 22:58
  and
• 22:58
  sees
• 22:58
  them
• 22:58
  as
• 22:59
  somehow
• 22:59
  sort
• 22:59
  of
• 22:59
  a
• 22:59
  tech
• 23:00
  play.
• 23:00
  Is
• 23:00
  Ted
• 23:00
  Sarandis
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  most
• 23:01
  powerful
• 23:01
  man
• 23:02
  in
• 23:02
  Hollywood?
• 23:02
  Everything
• 23:03
  is
• 23:03
  relative.
• 23:04
  The
• 23:04
  most
• 23:05
  powerful
• 23:05
  man
• 23:05
  in
• 23:05
  Hollywood
• 23:06
  is
• 23:06
  the
• 23:06
  person
• 23:06
  who
• 23:07
  gives
• 23:07
  you
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  money
• 23:07
  for
• 23:07
  your
• 23:08
  project.
• 23:09
  Right?
• 23:09
  So
• 23:10
  ultimately,
• 23:11
  wherever
• 23:11
  you
• 23:11
  can
• 23:12
  get
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  money
• 23:12
  is
• 23:13
  where
• 23:13
  you
• 23:13
  get
• 23:13
  the
• 23:13
  money.
• 23:13
  If
• 23:13
  Netflix
• 23:14
  is
• 23:14
  handing
• 23:14
  out
• 23:14
  more
• 23:15
  money.
• 23:15
  Than
• 23:15
  anybody,
• 23:15
  then
• 23:15
  he's
• 23:16
  very
• 23:16
  powerful
• 23:16
  in
• 23:16
  that
• 23:17
  regard.
• 23:17
  But.
• 23:17
  And
• 23:18
  Ted,
• 23:18
  I
• 23:18
  don't
• 23:18
  mean
• 23:19
  to
• 23:19
  drag
• 23:19
  Ted
• 23:19
  either,
• 23:20
  but
• 23:20
  he's
• 23:20
  a
• 23:20
  TV
• 23:21
  guy.
• 23:21
  The
• 23:22
  quality
• 23:22
  of
• 23:22
  Netflix
• 23:23
  product
• 23:23
  is
• 23:24
  80%
• 23:25
  junk.
• 23:26
  More
• 23:26
  if
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  networks
• 23:27
  were
• 23:27
  doing
• 23:28
  60%
• 23:28
  junk.
• 23:29
  Netflix
• 23:29
  is
• 23:29
  85%
• 23:30
  junk.
• 23:31
  It's
• 23:31
  just
• 23:31
  the
• 23:31
  way
• 23:31
  it
• 23:32
  is.
• 23:32
  It's
• 23:32
  not,
• 23:32
  they're
• 23:32
  not
• 23:33
  designed
• 23:33
  for
• 23:33
  the
• 23:33
  best
• 23:34
  of
• 23:34
  quality.
• 23:34
  Then
• 23:35
  they
• 23:35
  go
• 23:35
  do
• 23:35
  fund
• 23:36
  some
• 23:36
  very
• 23:36
  good
• 23:37
  international
• 23:38
  shows
• 23:38
  and
• 23:38
  some
• 23:39
  great
• 23:39
  movies
• 23:39
  and
• 23:40
  things
• 23:40
  like
• 23:40
  that.
• 23:40
  But
• 23:41
  it's
• 23:41
  the
• 23:41
  power
• 23:42
  of
• 23:42
  Netflix
• 23:42
  is
• 23:43
  that
• 23:43
  it's
• 23:43
  so
• 23:43
  much
• 23:43
  money,
• 23:44
  is
• 23:44
  the
• 23:45
  pot
• 23:45
  is
• 23:45
  so
• 23:45
  big
• 23:45
  and
• 23:46
  they're
• 23:46
  willing
• 23:46
  to
• 23:46
  spend
• 23:46
  $18
• 23:47
  billion.
• 23:48
  Have
• 23:48
  a
• 23:48
  different
• 23:48
  perspective
• 23:49
  too,
• 23:49
  because
• 23:50
  globally,
• 23:51
  when
• 23:51
  we
• 23:51
  look
• 23:52
  at
• 23:52
  box
• 23:52
  office
• 23:52
  and
• 23:53
  what
• 23:53
  movie
• 23:54
  studios
• 23:54
  look
• 23:54
  at
• 23:54
  in
• 23:55
  terms
• 23:55
  of
• 23:55
  audience
• 23:56
  potential,
• 23:57
  the
• 23:57
  international
• 23:58
  streaming
• 23:58
  business
• 23:59
  has
• 23:59
  got
• 23:59
  to
• 24:00
  be
• 24:00
  a
• 24:00
  magnitude
• 24:01
  greater.
• 24:02
  Netflix
• 24:03
  has
• 24:03
  by
• 24:04
  far
• 24:04
  the
• 24:04
  biggest
• 24:04
  international
• 24:05
  business
• 24:05
  in
• 24:05
  terms
• 24:06
  of
• 24:06
  streaming,
• 24:06
  in
• 24:07
  great
• 24:07
  part
• 24:07
  because
• 24:07
  they
• 24:07
  started,
• 24:08
  I
• 24:08
  mean,
• 24:08
  when
• 24:08
  Netflix
• 24:08
  started,
• 24:09
  it
• 24:09
  was
• 24:09
  A$10
• 24:09
  a
• 24:10
  month,.
• 24:10
  90%
• 24:11
  of
• 24:11
  the
• 24:11
  country
• 24:11
  had
• 24:11
  cable,
• 24:12
  90%.
• 24:12
  Of
• 24:12
  the
• 24:12
  world
• 24:13
  had
• 24:13
  cable
• 24:13
  or
• 24:13
  something.
• 24:14
  And
• 24:14
  then
• 24:14
  they
• 24:14
  came
• 24:14
  along
• 24:15
  and
• 24:15
  said,
• 24:15
  here's
• 24:15
  $10,
• 24:16
  you
• 24:16
  can
• 24:16
  have
• 24:16
  all
• 24:16
  this
• 24:17
  content
• 24:18
  unlimited
• 24:18
  practically
• 24:19
  for
• 24:19
  $10
• 24:20
  a
• 24:20
  month.
• 24:20
  And
• 24:20
  everybody
• 24:20
  said
• 24:21
  yes.
• 24:21
  And
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  international
• 24:22
  said
• 24:22
  yes.
• 24:23
  Their
• 24:23
  international
• 24:24
  audience
• 24:24
  is
• 24:24
  twice
• 24:25
  as
• 24:25
  big
• 24:25
  as
• 24:25
  their
• 24:25
  domestic.
• 24:26
  And
• 24:26
  so
• 24:26
  they
• 24:26
  now
• 24:27
  have
• 24:27
  300
• 24:27
  million
• 24:28
  people.
• 24:28
  And
• 24:29
  it's
• 24:29
  amazing
• 24:29
  nobody
• 24:30
  else
• 24:30
  who
• 24:30
  came
• 24:31
  along
• 24:31
  with
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  major
• 24:32
  studios
• 24:33
  five
• 24:33
  years
• 24:33
  ago,
• 24:33
  six
• 24:34
  years
• 24:34
  ago,
• 24:34
  has
• 24:34
  been
• 24:35
  able.
• 24:35
  To
• 24:35
  do
• 24:35
  that
• 24:35
  internationally
• 24:36
  yet.
• 24:36
  But
• 24:36
  their
• 24:36
  approach
• 24:37
  editorially,
• 24:37
  lowest
• 24:38
  common
• 24:38
  denominator,
• 24:39
  if
• 24:39
  you
• 24:39
  will,
• 24:40
  is
• 24:40
  broader
• 24:41
  because
• 24:41
  of
• 24:41
  that,
• 24:42
  because
• 24:42
  they
• 24:42
  have
• 24:42
  to
• 24:42
  transcend
• 24:43
  many
• 24:43
  different
• 24:43
  cultures.
• 24:44
  But
• 24:44
  they're
• 24:44
  also
• 24:45
  throwing
• 24:45
  more
• 24:45
  stuff
• 24:45
  against
• 24:45
  the
• 24:46
  wall.
• 24:46
  Yes,
• 24:46
  they're
• 24:47
  doing
• 24:47
  more
• 24:47
  cultural
• 24:47
  stuff.
• 24:48
  They've
• 24:48
  led
• 24:48
  the
• 24:48
  way
• 24:48
  in
• 24:48
  that,
• 24:49
  in
• 24:49
  many
• 24:49
  ways.
• 24:49
  They've
• 24:49
  led
• 24:50
  the
• 24:50
  way
• 24:50
  in
• 24:50
  translation.
• 24:51
  However,
• 24:52
  it's
• 24:54
  either
• 24:55
  the,
• 24:56
  it's
• 24:56
  the
• 24:56
  deal
• 24:57
  of
• 24:57
  Netflix.
• 24:57
  Netflix
• 24:58
  kind
• 24:58
  of
• 24:58
  became
• 24:59
  something
• 24:59
  you
• 24:59
  got
• 25:00
  used
• 25:00
  to,
• 25:00
  like
• 25:00
  ABC
• 25:01
  or
• 25:01
  CBS
• 25:02
  or
• 25:02
  whatever,
• 25:02
  where
• 25:03
  you
• 25:03
  felt
• 25:03
  you
• 25:03
  had
• 25:03
  to
• 25:04
  have
• 25:04
  it.
• 25:04
  And
• 25:04
  when
• 25:04
  it
• 25:05
  started
• 25:05
  it
• 25:05
  was
• 25:05
  10
• 25:05
  bucks,
• 25:06
  now
• 25:06
  it's
• 25:06
  20
• 25:06
  bucks.
• 25:07
  But
• 25:07
  people
• 25:07
  are
• 25:08
  still
• 25:08
  hooked
• 25:08
  into
• 25:08
  it.
• 25:08
  As
• 25:09
  one
• 25:09
  of
• 25:09
  those
• 25:09
  things
• 25:09
  that's
• 25:10
  just
• 25:10
  a
• 25:10
  given.
• 25:11
  Like
• 25:11
  you
• 25:11
  have.
• 25:11
  You
• 25:12
  have
• 25:12
  a
• 25:12
  tv.
• 25:12
  You
• 25:12
  have
• 25:12
  to
• 25:12
  have
• 25:13
  Netflix.
• 25:13
  Netflix
• 25:13
  and
• 25:14
  the
• 25:14
  others
• 25:14
  don't
• 25:14
  have
• 25:14
  that
• 25:14
  advantage.
• 25:15
  Disney
• 25:15
  has
• 25:15
  a
• 25:16
  little
• 25:16
  bit
• 25:16
  of
• 25:16
  it.
• 25:16
  Do
• 25:16
  the
• 25:16
  kids
• 25:17
  stuff.
• 25:17
  But
• 25:17
  it's
• 25:18
  a
• 25:18
  different
• 25:18
  thing.
• 25:18
  And
• 25:19
  Netflix's
• 25:19
  business
• 25:20
  doesn't
• 25:21
  require
• 25:21
  everybody
• 25:22
  to
• 25:22
  like
• 25:22
  everything.
• 25:23
  Netflix's
• 25:24
  business
• 25:24
  requires
• 25:25
  people
• 25:25
  to
• 25:25
  like
• 25:26
  four
• 25:26
  programs
• 25:26
  a
• 25:27
  week.
• 25:27
  If
• 25:27
  you
• 25:27
  can
• 25:27
  find
• 25:28
  four
• 25:28
  things
• 25:28
  on
• 25:28
  Netflix
• 25:29
  or
• 25:29
  anywhere
• 25:29
  this
• 25:30
  was
• 25:30
  true.
• 25:30
  Anywhere
• 25:31
  this
• 25:31
  is
• 25:31
  true
• 25:32
  is
• 25:32
  actually
• 25:32
  successful
• 25:33
  streamer.
• 25:33
  If
• 25:34
  Netflix.
• 25:34
  If
• 25:34
  you
• 25:34
  find
• 25:35
  four
• 25:35
  hours
• 25:35
  on
• 25:35
  Netflix
• 25:36
  every
• 25:36
  week
• 25:36
  that
• 25:37
  are
• 25:37
  good
• 25:37
  that
• 25:38
  you
• 25:38
  like.
• 25:39
  They've
• 25:39
  won
• 25:40
  because
• 25:40
  they're
• 25:40
  not.
• 25:41
  It
• 25:41
  doesn't
• 25:41
  matter
• 25:42
  how
• 25:42
  many
• 25:42
  people
• 25:42
  watch
• 25:42
  it.
• 25:42
  Even
• 25:43
  though
• 25:43
  that's
• 25:43
  all
• 25:43
  anybody
• 25:43
  it
• 25:44
  talks
• 25:44
  about.
• 25:44
  What
• 25:45
  matters
• 25:45
  is
• 25:45
  that
• 25:45
  you
• 25:45
  keep
• 25:45
  your
• 25:46
  subscription.
• 25:46
  Do
• 25:47
  they
• 25:47
  reflect
• 25:47
  that?
• 25:48
  American
• 25:48
  films
• 25:49
  exported
• 25:49
  so
• 25:49
  well
• 25:50
  because
• 25:50
  everybody
• 25:51
  idolizes
• 25:52
  the
• 25:52
  American
• 25:52
  dream
• 25:53
  overseas.
• 25:54
  And
• 25:54
  so
• 25:55
  there
• 25:55
  were
• 25:55
  a
• 25:55
  lot
• 25:56
  more
• 25:56
  American
• 25:56
  values
• 25:57
  reflected
• 25:58
  globally
• 25:59
  in
• 25:59
  motion
• 25:59
  pictures
• 26:00
  because
• 26:00
  of
• 26:00
  that.
• 26:01
  Does
• 26:01
  that
• 26:01
  still
• 26:01
  hold
• 26:01
  true?
• 26:02
  Because
• 26:02
  I
• 26:02
  know
• 26:02
  a
• 26:03
  lot
• 26:03
  of
• 26:03
  productions
• 26:03
  are
• 26:04
  now
• 26:04
  outsourced
• 26:05
  overseas
• 26:06
  because
• 26:06
  it's
• 26:06
  just
• 26:06
  cheaper
• 26:07
  to
• 26:07
  produce.
• 26:07
  But
• 26:07
  are
• 26:08
  they
• 26:08
  also.
• 26:08
  But
• 26:08
  they're
• 26:08
  still
• 26:08
  set
• 26:09
  in
• 26:09
  Chicago
• 26:09
  even
• 26:09
  though
• 26:09
  they're
• 26:09
  shot
• 26:10
  in
• 26:10
  Bulgaria.
• 26:10
  You
• 26:10
  know.
• 26:11
  But.
• 26:11
  But
• 26:11
  is
• 26:12
  Bulgaria
• 26:13
  any
• 26:13
  more
• 26:13
  interesting
• 26:14
  to
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  global
• 26:14
  audience
• 26:15
  than
• 26:15
  it
• 26:15
  was
• 26:15
  when
• 26:16
  Just
• 26:16
  America
• 26:16
  was
• 26:16
  of
• 26:17
  interest
• 26:17
  Then
• 26:17
  Nobody.
• 26:18
  Makes
• 26:18
  a
• 26:18
  movie
• 26:18
  about
• 26:18
  Bulgaria.
• 26:19
  That's
• 26:19
  true.
• 26:19
  Or
• 26:20
  TV
• 26:20
  show.
• 26:20
  There
• 26:20
  are
• 26:20
  now
• 26:21
  game
• 26:21
  shows
• 26:22
  that
• 26:22
  are
• 26:22
  being
• 26:22
  done
• 26:22
  overseas
• 26:23
  in
• 26:23
  Eastern
• 26:24
  Europe
• 26:24
  because
• 26:24
  it's
• 26:25
  cheaper
• 26:25
  somehow.
• 26:26
  And
• 26:26
  I
• 26:26
  don't
• 26:26
  really
• 26:26
  know
• 26:27
  how
• 26:27
  that
• 26:27
  math
• 26:27
  actually
• 26:27
  works.
• 26:28
  But
• 26:28
  to
• 26:28
  take
• 26:28
  an
• 26:29
  entire
• 26:29
  crew
• 26:29
  and
• 26:29
  everybody
• 26:30
  to
• 26:30
  Bulgaria
• 26:31
  or
• 26:31
  wherever
• 26:32
  and
• 26:32
  shoot.
• 26:32
  I
• 26:32
  think
• 26:33
  the
• 26:33
  floor
• 26:33
  on
• 26:34
  NBC
• 26:34
  is
• 26:34
  one
• 26:35
  of
• 26:35
  those
• 26:35
  shows
• 26:35
  where
• 26:36
  they
• 26:36
  shoot
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  whole
• 26:36
  show
• 26:37
  in
• 26:37
  Eastern
• 26:37
  Europe.
• 26:38
  None
• 26:38
  of
• 26:38
  it
• 26:38
  suggests
• 26:39
  for
• 26:39
  a
• 26:39
  second
• 26:39
  that
• 26:39
  it's
• 26:40
  anywhere
• 26:40
  other
• 26:40
  than
• 26:40
  downtown
• 26:41
  Burbank.
• 26:42
  But
• 26:42
  it
• 26:42
  is.
• 26:43
  Because
• 26:43
  somehow
• 26:43
  that's
• 26:44
  cheaper.
• 26:44
  There
• 26:45
  are
• 26:45
  issues
• 26:45
  with
• 26:45
  production
• 26:46
  and
• 26:46
  the
• 26:46
  cost
• 26:46
  of
• 26:47
  production
• 26:47
  in
• 26:47
  Los
• 26:47
  Angeles.
• 26:47
  The
• 26:48
  cost
• 26:48
  of
• 26:48
  production
• 26:48
  around
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  country.
• 26:49
  Who's
• 26:50
  giving.
• 26:50
  What
• 26:50
  kind
• 26:50
  of
• 26:50
  tax
• 26:50
  credits.
• 26:51
  Is
• 26:51
  California
• 26:52
  coming
• 26:52
  back?
• 26:53
  I'm
• 26:53
  hearing
• 26:54
  that
• 26:54
  business
• 26:54
  is
• 26:55
  starting
• 26:55
  to
• 26:55
  come
• 26:55
  back
• 26:56
  because
• 26:56
  of
• 26:56
  the
• 26:57
  new
• 26:57
  $750
• 26:58
  million
• 26:58
  incentive.
• 26:59
  Is
• 26:59
  that
• 26:59
  happening?
• 27:00
  Is
• 27:00
  it
• 27:00
  working?
• 27:00
  It's
• 27:01
  seems
• 27:01
  to
• 27:01
  be.
• 27:01
  But
• 27:02
  it's
• 27:02
  too.
• 27:02
  I
• 27:02
  think
• 27:02
  it's
• 27:03
  too
• 27:03
  early
• 27:03
  to
• 27:03
  really
• 27:04
  guess
• 27:04
  that.
• 27:05
  My
• 27:05
  thing
• 27:05
  is
• 27:05
  that
• 27:06
  the
• 27:06
  whole
• 27:06
  business
• 27:07
  overexpanded
• 27:08
  and
• 27:09
  that
• 27:09
  I've
• 27:09
  been
• 27:09
  saying
• 27:10
  for
• 27:10
  literally
• 27:10
  for
• 27:11
  years
• 27:11
  that
• 27:11
  the
• 27:11
  business
• 27:11
  was
• 27:12
  going
• 27:12
  to
• 27:12
  contract
• 27:12
  by
• 27:12
  30
• 27:13
  to
• 27:13
  40%
• 27:14
  because
• 27:14
  it
• 27:15
  had
• 27:15
  to.
• 27:15
  Because
• 27:15
  everybody
• 27:16
  made
• 27:16
  too
• 27:16
  many
• 27:17
  shows
• 27:17
  for
• 27:17
  a
• 27:17
  while.
• 27:18
  So
• 27:18
  I
• 27:18
  think
• 27:18
  part
• 27:18
  of
• 27:18
  what's
• 27:19
  going
• 27:19
  on
• 27:19
  in
• 27:19
  the
• 27:19
  last
• 27:19
  year
• 27:20
  or
• 27:20
  two
• 27:20
  Is
• 27:20
  that
• 27:21
  people
• 27:21
  who
• 27:21
  were
• 27:22
  used
• 27:22
  to
• 27:22
  being
• 27:22
  able
• 27:22
  to
• 27:22
  work
• 27:23
  every
• 27:23
  day
• 27:23
  of
• 27:23
  the
• 27:24
  year,
• 27:25
  and
• 27:25
  at
• 27:25
  first
• 27:25
  there
• 27:25
  was
• 27:26
  a
• 27:26
  problem
• 27:26
  because
• 27:27
  Netflix
• 27:27
  and
• 27:27
  others
• 27:28
  were
• 27:28
  doing
• 27:28
  eight
• 27:28
  and
• 27:29
  ten
• 27:29
  episode
• 27:29
  seasons
• 27:30
  and
• 27:30
  trying
• 27:30
  to
• 27:31
  keep
• 27:31
  people
• 27:31
  on
• 27:31
  hold
• 27:31
  when
• 27:32
  they
• 27:32
  weren't
• 27:32
  working
• 27:32
  so
• 27:33
  they
• 27:33
  couldn't
• 27:33
  go
• 27:33
  get
• 27:33
  another
• 27:33
  job.
• 27:34
  And
• 27:34
  all
• 27:34
  those
• 27:34
  complications
• 27:35
  have
• 27:35
  been
• 27:35
  worked
• 27:35
  out
• 27:35
  to
• 27:36
  some
• 27:36
  degree.
• 27:36
  But
• 27:37
  people
• 27:37
  were
• 27:38
  working
• 27:38
  a
• 27:38
  lot
• 27:39
  for
• 27:39
  a
• 27:39
  few,
• 27:39
  for
• 27:39
  four
• 27:40
  or
• 27:40
  five
• 27:40
  years.
• 27:41
  And
• 27:41
  then
• 27:41
  right
• 27:42
  before
• 27:42
  the
• 27:42
  strikes,
• 27:43
  right
• 27:43
  before,
• 27:44
  around
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  time,
• 27:45
  little
• 27:45
  after
• 27:46
  Covid,
• 27:46
  a
• 27:46
  little
• 27:46
  right
• 27:47
  before
• 27:47
  the
• 27:47
  strikes,
• 27:47
  the
• 27:48
  studio
• 27:48
  said,
• 27:48
  okay,
• 27:48
  now
• 27:48
  it's
• 27:49
  time
• 27:49
  to
• 27:49
  suck
• 27:49
  it
• 27:49
  back
• 27:50
  in.
• 27:50
  And
• 27:50
  basically
• 27:51
  the
• 27:51
  industry
• 27:51
  has
• 27:51
  contracted,
• 27:52
  so
• 27:52
  it
• 27:52
  feels
• 27:53
  like
• 27:53
  everybody's
• 27:54
  being
• 27:54
  tortured.
• 27:55
  Was
• 27:56
  the
• 27:56
  big
• 27:56
  strike
• 27:56
  with
• 27:56
  the
• 27:57
  actors,
• 27:57
  was
• 27:57
  it
• 27:58
  three
• 27:58
  years
• 27:58
  ago?
• 27:58
  Now
• 27:58
  it's
• 27:59
  now
• 27:59
  two
• 27:59
  years
• 27:59
  ago.
• 27:59
  Did
• 27:59
  it
• 28:00
  do
• 28:00
  more
• 28:00
  damage
• 28:00
  than
• 28:00
  good?
• 28:01
  No,
• 28:01
  because
• 28:01
  I
• 28:02
  believe
• 28:02
  that
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  studios
• 28:03
  did
• 28:03
  it
• 28:03
  on
• 28:04
  purpose.
• 28:04
  There's
• 28:05
  no
• 28:05
  question
• 28:05
  in
• 28:05
  my
• 28:05
  mind
• 28:05
  actually
• 28:06
  about
• 28:06
  this
• 28:06
  that
• 28:07
  if
• 28:07
  you
• 28:07
  look
• 28:07
  at
• 28:07
  what
• 28:07
  happened,
• 28:08
  they
• 28:09
  had
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  wga.
• 28:10
  WGA
• 28:10
  went
• 28:10
  on
• 28:10
  strike.
• 28:11
  They
• 28:11
  stopped
• 28:11
  negotiating
• 28:12
  with
• 28:12
  the
• 28:12
  wga.
• 28:13
  Oh,
• 28:13
  we're
• 28:13
  gonna
• 28:13
  wait
• 28:14
  for
• 28:14
  sag.
• 28:14
  Then
• 28:14
  SAG
• 28:15
  went
• 28:15
  on
• 28:15
  strike.
• 28:15
  And
• 28:16
  then
• 28:16
  they
• 28:16
  did
• 28:16
  not
• 28:16
  negotiate
• 28:17
  with
• 28:17
  SAG
• 28:18
  for
• 28:18
  four
• 28:18
  months.
• 28:19
  It
• 28:19
  wasn't
• 28:20
  that
• 28:20
  they
• 28:20
  were
• 28:20
  talking
• 28:20
  and
• 28:21
  it
• 28:21
  wasn't
• 28:21
  going
• 28:21
  well
• 28:21
  and
• 28:21
  they
• 28:22
  couldn't
• 28:22
  decide
• 28:22
  or
• 28:22
  whatever
• 28:22
  and
• 28:23
  they
• 28:23
  just
• 28:23
  wouldn't
• 28:23
  talk
• 28:24
  to
• 28:24
  them.
• 28:24
  What
• 28:25
  was
• 28:25
  the
• 28:25
  purpose?
• 28:26
  I
• 28:26
  feel
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  purpose
• 28:26
  was
• 28:27
  absolutely
• 28:27
  to
• 28:27
  cover
• 28:28
  this
• 28:28
  regression
• 28:29
  that
• 28:29
  they
• 28:29
  were
• 28:29
  already
• 28:29
  doing.
• 28:30
  They
• 28:30
  were
• 28:31
  already
• 28:31
  cutting
• 28:31
  back
• 28:31
  on
• 28:31
  staff,
• 28:32
  they
• 28:32
  were
• 28:32
  already
• 28:32
  cutting.
• 28:33
  They
• 28:33
  were
• 28:33
  already
• 28:33
  firing
• 28:33
  people
• 28:34
  left
• 28:34
  and.
• 28:34
  Right
• 28:34
  in
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  companies
• 28:35
  and
• 28:35
  the
• 28:36
  amount
• 28:36
  of
• 28:36
  content
• 28:36
  they
• 28:37
  wanted
• 28:37
  to
• 28:37
  make
• 28:37
  was.
• 28:37
  Going
• 28:38
  to
• 28:38
  be
• 28:38
  smaller.
• 28:38
  And
• 28:39
  that
• 28:39
  they
• 28:39
  let
• 28:39
  this
• 28:40
  five
• 28:40
  month.
• 28:40
  Period
• 28:41
  go
• 28:42
  because
• 28:42
  it
• 28:42
  was
• 28:43
  easier
• 28:43
  for.
• 28:43
  Them
• 28:43
  than
• 28:43
  to
• 28:44
  actually
• 28:44
  take
• 28:44
  the
• 28:44
  heat.
• 28:45
  For
• 28:45
  starting
• 28:45
  to
• 28:45
  fire
• 28:46
  people
• 28:46
  dump
• 28:46
  their
• 28:47
  shows.
• 28:47
  It's
• 28:47
  also
• 28:47
  an
• 28:48
  opportunity
• 28:48
  because
• 28:48
  of
• 28:49
  contracts.
• 28:49
  To
• 28:50
  be
• 28:50
  able
• 28:50
  to
• 28:50
  dump
• 28:50
  things
• 28:50
  that
• 28:50
  were
• 28:51
  not.
• 28:51
  Had
• 28:51
  not
• 28:51
  been
• 28:52
  made
• 28:52
  yet.
• 28:52
  So
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  industry
• 28:52
  was
• 28:53
  overextended
• 28:53
  and
• 28:54
  was
• 28:54
  contracting.
• 28:54
  It
• 28:54
  was
• 28:55
  contracting
• 28:55
  and
• 28:55
  they
• 28:55
  used,
• 28:56
  I.
• 28:56
  Believe
• 28:56
  they
• 28:56
  used
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  strike
• 28:57
  as
• 28:57
  a
• 28:58
  very
• 28:58
  cruel
• 28:59
  but
• 28:59
  very
• 28:59
  functional
• 29:00
  tool.
• 29:01
  Let's
• 29:01
  end
• 29:01
  on
• 29:01
  an
• 29:02
  up
• 29:02
  note
• 29:02
  here
• 29:03
  because
• 29:03
  you
• 29:03
  still
• 29:04
  love
• 29:04
  the
• 29:04
  movies.
• 29:04
  I
• 29:05
  do.
• 29:05
  You
• 29:05
  have
• 29:05
  gone
• 29:05
  to
• 29:05
  see
• 29:06
  one
• 29:06
  battle
• 29:06
  after
• 29:07
  another.
• 29:07
  I've
• 29:07
  seen
• 29:07
  it
• 29:08
  twice
• 29:08
  in
• 29:08
  VistaVision
• 29:09
  and
• 29:09
  once
• 29:09
  in
• 29:09
  an
• 29:09
  iMac70.
• 29:10
  How
• 29:11
  do
• 29:11
  they
• 29:11
  compare?
• 29:12
  Slightly
• 29:12
  different.
• 29:13
  Where
• 29:13
  I
• 29:14
  was
• 29:14
  sitting
• 29:14
  in
• 29:14
  the
• 29:14
  theater
• 29:14
  mattered
• 29:15
  and
• 29:15
  that
• 29:15
  kind
• 29:15
  of
• 29:15
  thing.
• 29:16
  Every
• 29:16
  time
• 29:16
  I
• 29:17
  see
• 29:17
  it,
• 29:17
  I've
• 29:17
  gotten
• 29:17
  more
• 29:17
  out
• 29:18
  of
• 29:18
  it
• 29:18
  because
• 29:18
  of
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  movie.
• 29:19
  Ultimately,
• 29:20
  it's
• 29:20
  a
• 29:20
  beautiful
• 29:20
  movie.
• 29:21
  The
• 29:21
  bigger
• 29:21
  screen
• 29:21
  you
• 29:22
  get
• 29:22
  to
• 29:22
  see
• 29:22
  it
• 29:22
  on,
• 29:22
  the
• 29:22
  better
• 29:22
  you're
• 29:23
  going
• 29:23
  to
• 29:23
  be.
• 29:23
  Sean
• 29:24
  Penn's
• 29:24
  performance,
• 29:24
  which
• 29:25
  I
• 29:25
  think
• 29:25
  is
• 29:25
  likely
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  win
• 29:26
  the
• 29:26
  Oscar.
• 29:27
  Agree
• 29:27
  is
• 29:28
  his
• 29:28
  just
• 29:28
  seeing
• 29:28
  his
• 29:29
  eyes
• 29:29
  in
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  close
• 29:30
  up
• 29:30
  are
• 29:30
  the
• 29:31
  work
• 29:31
  that
• 29:31
  obviously
• 29:32
  Paul
• 29:32
  didn't
• 29:32
  direct
• 29:33
  him
• 29:33
  to
• 29:33
  do
• 29:33
  and
• 29:33
  just
• 29:34
  captured
• 29:34
  it
• 29:35
  is
• 29:35
  amazing.
• 29:35
  Just
• 29:36
  looking
• 29:36
  at
• 29:36
  his
• 29:36
  eyeballs,
• 29:37
  moving
• 29:37
  around
• 29:37
  is
• 29:37
  fascinating.
• 29:38
  He
• 29:38
  can
• 29:38
  win
• 29:38
  the
• 29:38
  Oscar
• 29:39
  for
• 29:39
  this.
• 29:39
  And
• 29:39
  Harvey
• 29:40
  Milk
• 29:40
  in
• 29:41
  the
• 29:41
  same
• 29:41
  lifetime
• 29:42
  is
• 29:42
  beautiful
• 29:43
  as
• 29:43
  far
• 29:43
  as
• 29:43
  I'm
• 29:43
  concerned.
• 29:44
  There
• 29:44
  are
• 29:44
  people
• 29:44
  arguing
• 29:45
  about
• 29:45
  whether
• 29:45
  it's
• 29:45
  the
• 29:45
  best
• 29:45
  film
• 29:45
  of
• 29:46
  the
• 29:46
  year,
• 29:46
  best
• 29:46
  film
• 29:46
  of
• 29:46
  the
• 29:46
  decade,
• 29:47
  whatever.
• 29:47
  Everybody's
• 29:47
  trying
• 29:47
  to
• 29:47
  hyperp
• 29:48
  verbally
• 29:48
  themselves
• 29:48
  out
• 29:49
  of
• 29:49
  it.
• 29:49
  But
• 29:49
  it
• 29:50
  is
• 29:50
  a
• 29:50
  significant
• 29:50
  and
• 29:51
  important
• 29:51
  film
• 29:52
  and
• 29:52
  it
• 29:52
  actually
• 29:53
  is
• 29:53
  about
• 29:53
  something.
• 29:54
  You
• 29:54
  got
• 29:54
  to
• 29:54
  see
• 29:54
  it
• 29:55
  in
• 29:55
  the
• 29:55
  theater.
• 29:55
  By
• 29:55
  far
• 29:56
  the
• 29:56
  best
• 29:56
  experience
• 29:57
  theater.
• 29:57
  It
• 29:57
  is
• 29:57
  a
• 29:57
  big
• 29:58
  movie.
• 29:58
  The
• 29:58
  biggest
• 29:58
  screen
• 29:59
  you
• 29:59
  can
• 29:59
  find.
• 29:59
  Go
• 29:59
  see
• 30:00
  it.
• 30:00
  Okay.
• 30:00
  Some
• 30:01
  other
• 30:01
  movies
• 30:01
  that
• 30:01
  are
• 30:02
  out
• 30:02
  or
• 30:02
  coming
• 30:02
  out
• 30:03
  that
• 30:03
  you
• 30:03
  think
• 30:03
  are
• 30:03
  must
• 30:04
  sees.
• 30:04
  The
• 30:05
  hot
• 30:05
  movie
• 30:05
  out
• 30:05
  of
• 30:05
  the
• 30:05
  festival
• 30:05
  is
• 30:06
  a
• 30:06
  movie
• 30:06
  called
• 30:06
  Hamnet,
• 30:07
  which
• 30:07
  is
• 30:07
  about
• 30:08
  the
• 30:08
  William
• 30:08
  Shakespeare
• 30:09
  and
• 30:09
  his
• 30:09
  wife
• 30:09
  and
• 30:10
  the
• 30:10
  son
• 30:10
  that
• 30:10
  they
• 30:10
  have
• 30:11
  who
• 30:11
  passes
• 30:11
  away
• 30:11
  and
• 30:12
  that
• 30:12
  ends
• 30:12
  up
• 30:12
  leading
• 30:12
  to
• 30:13
  the
• 30:13
  making
• 30:13
  of
• 30:14
  the
• 30:14
  writing
• 30:14
  of
• 30:14
  Hamlet.
• 30:15
  It's
• 30:16
  a
• 30:16
  very
• 30:16
  powerful
• 30:16
  motion
• 30:16
  picture.
• 30:17
  It's
• 30:17
  Chloe
• 30:17
  Zhao
• 30:18
  who
• 30:19
  won
• 30:19
  the
• 30:19
  Oscar
• 30:19
  for
• 30:20
  the
• 30:20
  movie
• 30:20
  with
• 30:21
  Fran
• 30:21
  McDormand
• 30:22
  a
• 30:22
  few
• 30:22
  years
• 30:22
  ago.
• 30:22
  The
• 30:23
  homeless
• 30:23
  movie.
• 30:24
  Oh.
• 30:24
  Oh,
• 30:24
  that
• 30:25
  was
• 30:25
  great.
• 30:25
  Yeah.
• 30:26
  So
• 30:26
  it's
• 30:26
  a
• 30:26
  beautifully
• 30:27
  made
• 30:27
  movie
• 30:27
  about
• 30:28
  itinerant.
• 30:28
  Seasonal
• 30:29
  roles
• 30:29
  are
• 30:29
  definitely
• 30:29
  part
• 30:29
  of
• 30:29
  it.
• 30:30
  I've
• 30:30
  seen
• 30:31
  Frankenstein
• 30:31
  now,
• 30:32
  which
• 30:32
  got
• 30:32
  slammed
• 30:33
  at
• 30:33
  the
• 30:33
  festivals,
• 30:33
  and
• 30:33
  it's
• 30:34
  actually
• 30:34
  quite
• 30:35
  brilliant.
• 30:35
  It's
• 30:35
  maybe
• 30:36
  a
• 30:36
  little
• 30:36
  long
• 30:36
  in
• 30:36
  the
• 30:36
  first
• 30:36
  act,
• 30:37
  but
• 30:37
  there's
• 30:37
  a
• 30:37
  performance
• 30:38
  by
• 30:38
  Jacob
• 30:38
  Elordi,
• 30:39
  who
• 30:39
  is
• 30:39
  this
• 30:40
  6
• 30:40
  foot
• 30:40
  5
• 30:41
  beautiful
• 30:41
  boy
• 30:41
  who
• 30:41
  everybody's
• 30:42
  in
• 30:42
  love
• 30:42
  with
• 30:42
  and
• 30:43
  wants
• 30:43
  to
• 30:43
  all
• 30:43
  the
• 30:43
  girls
• 30:43
  are
• 30:44
  hot
• 30:44
  for.
• 30:44
  But
• 30:45
  the
• 30:45
  trick,
• 30:45
  the
• 30:46
  truist
• 30:46
  of
• 30:46
  this
• 30:46
  Frankenstein
• 30:47
  is
• 30:47
  that
• 30:48
  Frankenstein
• 30:48
  does
• 30:49
  learn
• 30:49
  and
• 30:50
  speaks
• 30:50
  and
• 30:51
  has
• 30:51
  ideas
• 30:52
  and
• 30:52
  thoughts
• 30:52
  about
• 30:52
  being
• 30:53
  Frankenstein.
• 30:54
  And
• 30:54
  Elordi
• 30:55
  presents
• 30:55
  this,
• 30:56
  his
• 30:56
  character,
• 30:56
  and
• 30:57
  I
• 30:57
  think
• 30:57
  he's
• 30:57
  gonna
• 30:57
  get
• 30:57
  an
• 30:58
  Academy
• 30:58
  Award
• 30:58
  nomination
• 30:58
  for
• 30:59
  it.
• 30:59
  He
• 30:59
  is
• 30:59
  actually
• 30:59
  quite
• 30:59
  brilliant.
• 31:00
  Much
• 31:00
  to
• 31:00
  my
• 31:00
  shock.
• 31:01
  I
• 31:01
  thought
• 31:01
  he
• 31:01
  was
• 31:01
  just
• 31:02
  a
• 31:02
  pretty
• 31:02
  boy,
• 31:02
  but
• 31:03
  he's
• 31:03
  really
• 31:03
  good
• 31:03
  in
• 31:03
  this
• 31:04
  movie.
• 31:04
  And
• 31:04
  Guillermo
• 31:04
  del
• 31:04
  Toro
• 31:05
  makes
• 31:05
  a
• 31:05
  beautiful
• 31:05
  movie.
• 31:06
  So
• 31:06
  there's
• 31:06
  that.
• 31:06
  There's
• 31:07
  a
• 31:07
  Catherine
• 31:07
  Bigelow
• 31:07
  movie
• 31:08
  called
• 31:08
  A
• 31:08
  House
• 31:08
  of
• 31:08
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  It's
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• 31:40
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• 31:41
  Scorsese
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  Apple
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  Original
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• 31:47
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  Brothers
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  Original
• 31:50
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  an
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  original
• 32:03
  movie
• 32:03
  and
• 32:04
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• 32:04
  can.
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  Find
• 32:04
  a
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  with
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• 32:05
  feelings,
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  get
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  them
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  Out
• 32:07
  to
• 32:08
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• 32:08
  movies
• 32:08
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• 32:08
  well.
• 32:08
  David
• 32:09
  Poney,
• 32:09
  Speaking
• 32:09
  of
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  connecting
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  with
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  people's.
• 32:10
  Feelings,
• 32:11
  where
• 32:11
  can
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  they
• 32:12
  catch
• 32:12
  your
• 32:13
  show?
• 32:14
  I'm
• 32:14
  online
• 32:14
  on
• 32:15
  Substack.
• 32:15
  It's
• 32:16
  David
• 32:16
  reads
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  the
• 32:17
  trades
• 32:17
  in
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  the
• 32:17
  mornings.
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  I
• 32:18
  could
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  do
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  about
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  half
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  an
• 32:19
  hour
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  to
• 32:19
  an
• 32:19
  hour
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  of
• 32:20
  yammering
• 32:21
  about
• 32:21
  the
• 32:21
  trades
• 32:21
  and
• 32:21
  the
• 32:21
  news
• 32:22
  of
• 32:22
  the
• 32:22
  day.
• 32:22
  And
• 32:23
  then
• 32:23
  I
• 32:23
  have.
• 32:23
  Very
• 32:24
  entertaining,
• 32:24
  by
• 32:24
  the
• 32:24
  way.
• 32:24
  And
• 32:24
  then
• 32:24
  it's
• 32:25
  the
• 32:25
  hot
• 32:25
  button
• 32:25
  is
• 32:25
  the
• 32:26
  the
• 32:26
  written
• 32:27
  piece
• 32:27
  that's
• 32:27
  do
• 32:28
  three
• 32:28
  or
• 32:28
  four
• 32:28
  times
• 32:28
  a
• 32:28
  week.
• 32:28
  David
• 32:29
  Poland,
• 32:29
  thank
• 32:30
  you
• 32:30
  so
• 32:30
  much
• 32:30
  for
• 32:30
  coming
• 32:30
  down
• 32:31
  and
• 32:31
  maintaining
• 32:32
  your
• 32:32
  faith
• 32:32
  in
• 32:32
  the
• 32:32
  motion
• 32:33
  picture
• 32:33
  business.
• 32:33
  Thank
• 32:34
  God.
• 32:34
  I
• 32:35
  feel
• 32:35
  so
• 32:35
  close
• 32:35
  to
• 32:35
  Phil.
• 32:36
  Hey,
• 32:37
  listen,
• 32:37
  we
• 32:37
  have
• 32:38
  to
• 32:38
  have
• 32:38
  you
• 32:38
  back
• 32:38
  on
• 32:38
  the
• 32:38
  show.
• 32:39
  I
• 32:39
  have
• 32:39
  to
• 32:39
  be
• 32:39
  in
• 32:39
  the
• 32:40
  studio
• 32:40
  with
• 32:40
  you.
• 32:41
  So
• 32:41
  we'll
• 32:41
  figure
• 32:41
  that
• 32:41
  out.
• 32:42
  Okay?
• 32:43
  I'm
• 32:44
  Phil
• 32:44
  Proctor.
• 32:45
  See
• 32:46
  ya.