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The Cost of the Sport — And What It’s Doing to Riders · Two Point Perspective

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  The
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  sport
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  isn't
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  just
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  more
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  expensive,
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  it's
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  more
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  controlled.
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  And
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  that
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  comes
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  with
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  a
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  cost,
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  not
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  just
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  financially,
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  but
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  what
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  is
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  it
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  costing
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  the
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  rider?
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  This
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  is
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  two
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  point
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  perspective.
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  Two
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  riders
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  with
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  different
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  viewpoints
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  from
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  different.
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  Generations
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  talking
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  about
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  the
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  same
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  sport.
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  I
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  feel
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  like
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  we
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  talk
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  a
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  lot
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  about
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  how
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  expensive
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  this
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  sport's
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  gotten,
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  but
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  we
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  talk
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  enough
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  about
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  what
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  that
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  actually
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  means.
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  Because
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  yes,
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  it
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  is
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  financial,
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  but
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  I
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  think
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  there's
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  another
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  layer
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  to
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  it.
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  Oh,
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  absolutely.
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  I
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  think
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  so
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  too.
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  When
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  I
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  look
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  at
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  it
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  now,
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  what
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  feels
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  different
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  to
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  me
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  isn't
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  just
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  the
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  price.
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  It's
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  about
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  how
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  much
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  is
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  happening
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  around
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  the
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  ride.
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  There's
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  structure,
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  there's
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  more
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  management,
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  there's
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  people
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  involved.
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  And
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  I
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  don't
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  really
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  think
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  that's
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  accidental.
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  Horse
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  shows
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  have
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  grown
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  in
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  terms
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  of
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  their
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  divisions
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  just
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  to,
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  you
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  know,
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  it's
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  a
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  business
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  model.
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  Right.
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  Also
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  think
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  that
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  like
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  there's
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  pros
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  and
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  cons,
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  like
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  there
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  are
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  to
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  anything.
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  And
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  I
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  look
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  at
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  it
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  from
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  the
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  perspective
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  like
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  the
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  more
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  people
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  that
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  are
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  involved,
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  like
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  you
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  said,
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  the
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  more
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  business
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  model
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  you're
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  seeing,
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  like
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  maybe
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  compared
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  to
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  like
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  what
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  you
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  used
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  to
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  see
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  where
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  it
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  was
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  like
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  very
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  structured,
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  it's
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  very
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  structured
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  now
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  and
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  previously,
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  like
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  maybe
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  it
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  was
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  just
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  not
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  so
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  allows
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  for
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  there
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  to
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  be
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  a
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  profit
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  in
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  the
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  industry.
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  I
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  mean,
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  the
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  tale
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  as
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  old
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  as
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  time
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  is,
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  okay,
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  you
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  get
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  into
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  horses
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  you'll
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  never
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  make,
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  you'll
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  never
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  make
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  a
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  living
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  doing
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  it.
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  And
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  in
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  some
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  ways,
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  like
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  it's.
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  I'm
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  glad
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  to
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  see
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  that
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  there's
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  enough
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  of
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  a
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  business
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  structure
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  that
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  people
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  can
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  make
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  a
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  living
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  doing
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  it
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  because
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  we
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  love
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  it.
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  And
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  it
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  keeps
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  people
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  in
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  business,
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  it
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  keeps
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  the
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  sport
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  around,
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  it
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  keeps
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  it
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  evolving.
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  But
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  what
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  does
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  that
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  mean
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  for
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  the
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  rider
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  and
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  their
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  ability
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  to
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  afford
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  an
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  already
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  expensive
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  sport?
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  Well,
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  I
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  agree.
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  And
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  I
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  guess
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  that
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  kind
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  of
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  comes
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  down
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  to
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  the
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  discussion
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  about
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  local
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  shows
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  versus
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  A
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  shows
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  or
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  rated
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  shows
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  and
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  the
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  USF
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  versus
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  the
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  new
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  different
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  structures
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  people
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  are
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  trying
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  to
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  talk
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  about.
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  We
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  once
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  upon
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  a
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  time
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  had
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  a
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  single
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  division
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  for
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  juniors,
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  a
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  single
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  division
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  for
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  small,
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  medium
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  large
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  ponies,
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  and
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  a
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  single
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  division
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  for
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  amateurs.
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  There
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  were
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  a
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  couple
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  other
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  divisions,
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  but
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  never
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  were
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  there
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  so
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  many
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  stepping
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  stones.
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  And
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  now
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  everybody
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  has
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  lots
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  of
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  options,
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  which
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  I
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  think
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  is
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  great.
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  But
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  then
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  all
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  of
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  a
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  sudden
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  there's
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  more
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  than
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  that.
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  Like
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  how
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  many
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  people
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  are
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  involved
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  with
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  just
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  one
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  horse?
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  How
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  many
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  people
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  does
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  it
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  take
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  to.
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  How
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  much
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  money
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  do
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  you
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  spend?
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  There
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  was
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  another
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  podcast
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  I
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  heard
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  talking
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  about
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  braiders.
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  And
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  that
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  in
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  itself
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  has
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  become
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  an
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  industry
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  on
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  its
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  own
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  that
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  didn't
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  really
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  exist
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  once
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  upon
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  A
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  time.
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  So
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  what
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  happens
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  during
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  the
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  week
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  just
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  versus
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  the
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  show
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  day?
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  How
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  many
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  people
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  between
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  the
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  grooms,
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  the
• 3:00
  braiders,
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  somebody
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  to
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  lunge
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  the
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  horse,
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  your
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  trainer
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  to
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  ride
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  the
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  horse?
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  I
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  mean
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  all
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  of
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  these
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  things
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  add
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  money.
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  Yeah,
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  they
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  really
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  do.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  that's
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  of
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  where
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  the,
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  it's
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  not
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  necessarily
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  like
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  frustration
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  within
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  like
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  your
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  barn
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  per
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  se.
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  Like
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  it's
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  amazing
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  that
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  all
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  those
• 3:19
  services
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  can
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  be
• 3:20
  offered
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  because
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  for
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  some
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  people
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  that's
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  the
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  way
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  that
• 3:22
  they
• 3:22
  make
• 3:22
  it
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  work,
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  right?
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  They've
• 3:23
  got
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  a
• 3:24
  big
• 3:24
  job
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  or
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  a
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  family
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  and
• 3:25
  if
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  they
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  have
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  the
• 3:26
  money
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  to,
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  to
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  pay
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  for
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  those
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  things
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  to
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  be
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  taken
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  care
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  of
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  for
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  them,
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  that's
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  how
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  they
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  can
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  get
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  to
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  the
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  horse
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  show.
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  But
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  at
• 3:31
  the
• 3:31
  same
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  time,
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  is
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  it
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  the
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  only
• 3:33
  way
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  to
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  do
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  it?
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  Do
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  you
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  have
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  other
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  options
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  for
• 3:35
  somebody
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  who
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  wants
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  to
• 3:36
  be
• 3:36
  more
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  involved
• 3:37
  or
• 3:37
  needs
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  to
• 3:38
  cook
• 3:38
  costs
• 3:38
  where
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  they
• 3:39
  can
• 3:39
  and
• 3:39
  still
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  be
• 3:40
  involved
• 3:40
  in
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  a
• 3:41
  high
• 3:41
  caliber
• 3:42
  program
• 3:42
  when
• 3:42
  it's
• 3:43
  time
• 3:43
  to
• 3:43
  go
• 3:43
  to
• 3:43
  the
• 3:43
  horse
• 3:43
  show?
• 3:44
  Because
• 3:44
  like
• 3:44
  you
• 3:44
  said,
• 3:44
  per
• 3:45
  day
• 3:45
  that
• 3:45
  starts
• 3:46
  to
• 3:46
  add
• 3:46
  up.
• 3:47
  And
• 3:47
  I'm
• 3:47
  of
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  mindset
• 3:48
  don't
• 3:48
  ever,
• 3:49
  don't,
• 3:49
  don't
• 3:49
  ever
• 3:50
  add
• 3:50
  up
• 3:50
  the
• 3:51
  show
• 3:51
  week.
• 3:52
  Like
• 3:52
  I
• 3:53
  don't
• 3:53
  need
• 3:53
  to
• 3:53
  see
• 3:53
  that
• 3:53
  on
• 3:53
  paper.
• 3:54
  You
• 3:54
  already
• 3:54
  get
• 3:55
  your
• 3:55
  show
• 3:55
  bill
• 3:56
  at
• 3:56
  the
• 3:56
  end
• 3:56
  of
• 3:56
  the
• 3:56
  week.
• 3:56
  I
• 3:56
  feel
• 3:56
  like
• 3:57
  that's
• 3:57
  plenty.
• 3:57
  But
• 3:58
  the
• 3:58
  reality
• 3:58
  of
• 3:59
  it
• 3:59
  is
• 3:59
  that
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  everything
• 4:00
  is
• 4:00
  more
• 4:01
  expensive
• 4:01
  in
• 4:01
  living
• 4:02
  and
• 4:02
  then
• 4:02
  you
• 4:03
  have
• 4:03
  an
• 4:03
  already
• 4:03
  expensive
• 4:04
  sport
• 4:04
  that
• 4:04
  people
• 4:04
  are
• 4:05
  bending
• 4:05
  over
• 4:06
  backwards
• 4:06
  to
• 4:06
  make
• 4:07
  ends
• 4:07
  meet,
• 4:07
  to
• 4:08
  justify
• 4:08
  what
• 4:08
  they're
• 4:09
  doing.
• 4:09
  And
• 4:10
  then
• 4:11
  it
• 4:11
  feels
• 4:11
  like
• 4:11
  it's
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  like
• 4:12
  another
• 4:12
  level,
• 4:12
  another
• 4:13
  level,
• 4:13
  another
• 4:14
  level.
• 4:14
  How
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  do
• 4:15
  you
• 4:15
  sustain
• 4:15
  that?
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  Right.
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  And
• 4:17
  some
• 4:17
  places
• 4:18
  give
• 4:18
  you
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  option
• 4:19
  to
• 4:19
  choose
• 4:20
  do
• 4:20
  you
• 4:20
  want
• 4:20
  care,
• 4:21
  do
• 4:21
  you
• 4:21
  not?
• 4:22
  And
• 4:22
  other
• 4:22
  places,
• 4:24
  unfortunately
• 4:25
  that's
• 4:25
  just
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  way
• 4:25
  their
• 4:26
  barns
• 4:26
  operate
• 4:27
  because
• 4:28
  it
• 4:28
  makes
• 4:28
  more
• 4:28
  sense
• 4:29
  from
• 4:29
  a
• 4:29
  business
• 4:30
  perspective
• 4:31
  for
• 4:31
  them.
• 4:31
  Well,
• 4:31
  and,
• 4:32
  but
• 4:32
  that's
• 4:32
  like
• 4:32
  multi
• 4:33
  layer,
• 4:33
  right?
• 4:33
  Like
• 4:34
  business
• 4:34
  perspective
• 4:35
  makes
• 4:36
  more
• 4:36
  sense
• 4:36
  because
• 4:37
  you
• 4:37
  could
• 4:37
  say
• 4:38
  it
• 4:38
  covers
• 4:38
  the,
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  cost
• 4:39
  to
• 4:39
  have
• 4:39
  the
• 4:40
  overhead
• 4:40
  that
• 4:40
  we
• 4:40
  need.
• 4:41
  On
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  other
• 4:41
  hand,
• 4:41
  it's
• 4:42
  also
• 4:42
  like
• 4:42
  if
• 4:42
  you're
• 4:42
  taking
• 4:43
  20
• 4:43
  some
• 4:43
  odd
• 4:44
  horses
• 4:44
  and
• 4:45
  you've
• 4:45
  got
• 4:45
  the
• 4:45
  trainer
• 4:46
  trying
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  manage
• 4:46
  or
• 4:47
  you
• 4:47
  know,
• 4:47
  trainer,
• 4:47
  two
• 4:47
  train,
• 4:48
  three
• 4:48
  trainers
• 4:48
  trying
• 4:49
  to
• 4:49
  manage
• 4:49
  where
• 4:49
  everybody
• 4:49
  else
• 4:50
  is,
• 4:50
  they
• 4:50
  need
• 4:51
  to
• 4:51
  know
• 4:51
  that
• 4:51
  like
• 4:51
  so
• 4:52
  and
• 4:52
  so
• 4:52
  didn't
• 4:52
  isn't
• 4:53
  going
• 4:53
  to
• 4:53
  oversleep
• 4:53
  from
• 4:53
  their
• 4:53
  alarm
• 4:54
  and
• 4:54
  arrive
• 4:54
  two
• 4:55
  hours
• 4:55
  late
• 4:55
  and
• 4:55
  then
• 4:55
  all
• 4:56
  of
• 4:56
  a
• 4:56
  sudden
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  horse
• 4:56
  hasn't
• 4:57
  had
• 4:57
  a
• 4:57
  bath
• 4:57
  or
• 4:57
  hasn't
• 4:57
  been
• 4:58
  lunged.
• 4:58
  So
• 4:59
  like
• 4:59
  from
• 4:59
  a
• 4:59
  logistics
• 5:00
  standpoint,
• 5:00
  when
• 5:01
  you've
• 5:01
  got
• 5:01
  a
• 5:01
  really
• 5:01
  big
• 5:02
  program,
• 5:02
  I
• 5:03
  get
• 5:03
  it.
• 5:03
  At
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  same
• 5:04
  time
• 5:05
  I'm
• 5:05
  A
• 5:05
  very
• 5:05
  hands
• 5:06
  on,
• 5:06
  do
• 5:06
  it
• 5:06
  yourself
• 5:06
  kind
• 5:07
  of
• 5:07
  person.
• 5:08
  And
• 5:08
  I
• 5:09
  like
• 5:09
  to
• 5:09
  do
• 5:09
  it.
• 5:10
  It's
• 5:10
  not
• 5:10
  even
• 5:10
  just
• 5:11
  that
• 5:11
  it
• 5:11
  helps
• 5:11
  from
• 5:12
  a
• 5:12
  cost
• 5:12
  perspective.
• 5:13
  I
• 5:13
  want
• 5:13
  to
• 5:13
  be
• 5:13
  doing
• 5:14
  it
• 5:14
  so.
• 5:14
  And
• 5:14
  I
• 5:15
  think
• 5:15
  that
• 5:15
  that's
• 5:15
  hard.
• 5:15
  I
• 5:16
  think
• 5:16
  that
• 5:16
  that
• 5:17
  leads
• 5:17
  us
• 5:17
  perfectly
• 5:18
  right
• 5:18
  to
• 5:18
  the
• 5:18
  next
• 5:19
  thought,
• 5:19
  which
• 5:19
  is
• 5:19
  not
• 5:20
  that
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  sport.
• 5:22
  I
• 5:22
  don't
• 5:22
  think
• 5:22
  that
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  sport
• 5:23
  has
• 5:23
  changed,
• 5:24
  but
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  business
• 5:25
  has
• 5:25
  changed
• 5:26
  around
• 5:26
  it.
• 5:27
  Right.
• 5:27
  And
• 5:28
  maybe
• 5:28
  some
• 5:28
  of
• 5:29
  that
• 5:29
  is
• 5:29
  liability
• 5:30
  or
• 5:30
  as
• 5:31
  you
• 5:31
  say,
• 5:32
  expectations
• 5:32
  in
• 5:33
  terms
• 5:33
  of
• 5:33
  time
• 5:34
  and
• 5:34
  energy
• 5:35
  spent
• 5:36
  trying
• 5:36
  to
• 5:36
  manage
• 5:37
  something.
• 5:38
  Yeah,
• 5:38
  definitely.
• 5:39
  You
• 5:39
  know,
• 5:40
  there's
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  certain
• 5:40
  amount
• 5:40
  of,
• 5:40
  like,
• 5:41
  inherent
• 5:41
  risk
• 5:41
  and
• 5:42
  liability
• 5:42
  that
• 5:43
  comes
• 5:43
  along
• 5:43
  in
• 5:43
  the
• 5:44
  horse
• 5:44
  industry
• 5:45
  as
• 5:45
  a
• 5:45
  whole.
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  think
• 5:46
  everybody
• 5:47
  knows
• 5:47
  that.
• 5:48
  But
• 5:48
  coming
• 5:49
  from.
• 5:49
  As
• 5:50
  an
• 5:50
  insurance
• 5:50
  agent,
• 5:51
  you
• 5:51
  can't.
• 5:52
  As
• 5:52
  a
• 5:52
  business
• 5:53
  owner
• 5:53
  or
• 5:54
  a
• 5:54
  horse
• 5:54
  owner,
• 5:55
  you
• 5:55
  can't
• 5:56
  afford
• 5:57
  to
• 5:57
  take
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  risk
• 5:58
  unprotected,
• 6:00
  Just
• 6:00
  not
• 6:00
  in
• 6:00
  this
• 6:01
  day
• 6:01
  and
• 6:01
  age.
• 6:02
  And
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  think
• 6:02
  that,
• 6:03
  that,
• 6:03
  you
• 6:03
  know,
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  think
• 6:03
  about
• 6:03
  that
• 6:04
  a
• 6:04
  little
• 6:04
  bit,
• 6:04
  being
• 6:04
  in,
• 6:05
  like,
• 6:06
  bigger
• 6:06
  barns
• 6:06
  and
• 6:06
  stuff
• 6:07
  like
• 6:07
  that.
• 6:07
  Like,
• 6:07
  you
• 6:07
  don't
• 6:07
  jump
• 6:08
  if
• 6:08
  there's
• 6:08
  not
• 6:08
  someone
• 6:08
  on
• 6:09
  site
• 6:09
  or
• 6:09
  you're
• 6:09
  not
• 6:09
  having
• 6:09
  a
• 6:10
  lesson,
• 6:10
  which
• 6:10
  is
• 6:11
  probably
• 6:11
  like
• 6:11
  a
• 6:11
  safety
• 6:12
  thing
• 6:12
  anyways.
• 6:12
  Like,
• 6:13
  you
• 6:13
  probably
• 6:13
  shouldn't
• 6:13
  be
• 6:13
  jumping
• 6:14
  if,
• 6:14
  like,
• 6:14
  there's
• 6:14
  nobody
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  come
• 6:15
  rescue
• 6:16
  you.
• 6:16
  God
• 6:17
  forbid,
• 6:17
  something
• 6:17
  should
• 6:17
  happen
• 6:18
  anyways.
• 6:18
  But
• 6:19
  I
• 6:19
  think
• 6:19
  about
• 6:19
  some
• 6:20
  of
• 6:20
  the
• 6:20
  crazy
• 6:20
  stuff
• 6:21
  we
• 6:21
  did
• 6:21
  as
• 6:22
  kids
• 6:23
  being
• 6:23
  like,
• 6:24
  we
• 6:24
  were
• 6:24
  supervised
• 6:25
  and
• 6:25
  there
• 6:26
  was
• 6:26
  a
• 6:26
  bunch
• 6:26
  of
• 6:26
  us
• 6:26
  all
• 6:26
  at
• 6:27
  one
• 6:27
  time,
• 6:27
  but
• 6:27
  I
• 6:27
  mean,
• 6:28
  we
• 6:28
  just
• 6:28
  kind
• 6:28
  of
• 6:28
  like
• 6:29
  turned
• 6:29
  loose,
• 6:30
  you
• 6:30
  know
• 6:30
  what
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  mean?
• 6:31
  And
• 6:32
  I
• 6:32
  don't
• 6:33
  see
• 6:33
  that
• 6:33
  happening
• 6:34
  with
• 6:34
  kids
• 6:35
  anymore.
• 6:37
  At
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  same
• 6:38
  time,
• 6:38
  it's
• 6:39
  like,
• 6:40
  as
• 6:40
  a
• 6:41
  business
• 6:41
  owner,
• 6:41
  farm
• 6:41
  owner,
• 6:42
  trainer,
• 6:42
  can
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  really
• 6:43
  allow
• 6:43
  that
• 6:44
  to
• 6:44
  occur
• 6:44
  under
• 6:45
  your
• 6:46
  umbrella
• 6:47
  and
• 6:47
  not
• 6:47
  be
• 6:47
  considered
• 6:48
  negligent?
• 6:50
  So
• 6:50
  it's,
• 6:51
  you
• 6:51
  know,
• 6:51
  It's
• 6:51
  a
• 6:52
  catch
• 6:52
  22.
• 6:53
  And
• 6:53
  there's
• 6:54
  some
• 6:54
  of
• 6:54
  it
• 6:54
  that
• 6:54
  like,
• 6:54
  bums
• 6:55
  me
• 6:55
  out,
• 6:55
  but
• 6:55
  from
• 6:55
  an
• 6:55
  insurance
• 6:56
  perspective,
• 6:56
  I'm
• 6:56
  like,
• 6:57
  of
• 6:57
  course
• 6:57
  you
• 6:57
  wouldn't
• 6:57
  do
• 6:57
  that,
• 6:58
  you
• 6:58
  know,
• 6:59
  because,
• 6:59
  like,
• 6:59
  I
• 7:00
  did
• 7:00
  crazy
• 7:01
  stuff
• 7:01
  as
• 7:01
  a
• 7:01
  kid.
• 7:01
  Like,
• 7:02
  you're
• 7:02
  off
• 7:02
  trail
• 7:03
  riding
• 7:03
  by
• 7:03
  yourself,
• 7:04
  you're
• 7:04
  running
• 7:04
  around
• 7:05
  in
• 7:05
  fields,
• 7:05
  you're
• 7:06
  bareback,
• 7:06
  you're
• 7:07
  half
• 7:07
  the.
• 7:08
  I
• 7:08
  don't
• 7:08
  know,
• 7:08
  you're
• 7:08
  just
• 7:08
  doing
• 7:09
  silly,
• 7:09
  stupid
• 7:10
  kid
• 7:10
  stuff.
• 7:10
  But
• 7:10
  if
• 7:10
  you
• 7:11
  think
• 7:11
  about
• 7:11
  it,
• 7:11
  silly,
• 7:11
  stupid
• 7:12
  kid
• 7:12
  stuff
• 7:13
  can
• 7:13
  get
• 7:13
  you
• 7:13
  into
• 7:13
  a
• 7:14
  pickle,
• 7:14
  especially
• 7:15
  when
• 7:15
  it
• 7:15
  involves
• 7:16
  an
• 7:16
  animal
• 7:16
  as
• 7:16
  big
• 7:17
  as
• 7:17
  a
• 7:17
  horse.
• 7:18
  So
• 7:18
  from
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  business
• 7:19
  perspective,
• 7:20
  it's
• 7:20
  like,
• 7:20
  I'm
• 7:20
  sorry,
• 7:21
  that
• 7:21
  can't
• 7:21
  happen
• 7:22
  on
• 7:22
  my
• 7:22
  wash.
• 7:22
  And
• 7:22
  it's
• 7:22
  not
• 7:23
  going
• 7:23
  to.
• 7:23
  All
• 7:24
  right?
• 7:24
  And
• 7:25
  this
• 7:25
  isn't
• 7:25
  unique
• 7:26
  to
• 7:26
  our
• 7:26
  sport.
• 7:26
  I
• 7:26
  mean,
• 7:27
  every
• 7:27
  business
• 7:28
  revolves
• 7:28
  around
• 7:29
  risk.
• 7:29
  Sure.
• 7:30
  But
• 7:30
  in
• 7:30
  this
• 7:31
  sport,
• 7:31
  like
• 7:31
  you
• 7:31
  said,
• 7:32
  you're
• 7:32
  managing
• 7:32
  the
• 7:32
  risk
• 7:33
  for
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  rider
• 7:33
  as
• 7:33
  well
• 7:34
  as
• 7:34
  the
• 7:34
  horse.
• 7:34
  And
• 7:35
  that's
• 7:35
  where
• 7:35
  you
• 7:35
  start
• 7:35
  to
• 7:35
  see
• 7:36
  all
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  changes
• 7:38
  around
• 7:38
  that.
• 7:38
  Right?
• 7:40
  Like,
• 7:40
  this
• 7:40
  is
• 7:40
  my
• 7:40
  personal
• 7:41
  opinion.
• 7:42
  You
• 7:42
  know,
• 7:42
  it's
• 7:43
  hard
• 7:43
  because
• 7:44
  it's
• 7:44
  like,
• 7:44
  if
• 7:44
  so
• 7:44
  and
• 7:45
  so
• 7:45
  doesn't
• 7:45
  know
• 7:47
  how
• 7:47
  to
• 7:47
  do
• 7:47
  X,
• 7:48
  Y
• 7:48
  and
• 7:48
  Z,
• 7:48
  or
• 7:48
  lead
• 7:49
  this
• 7:49
  horse
• 7:49
  around,
• 7:49
  or
• 7:50
  just
• 7:50
  do,
• 7:50
  like,
• 7:50
  base
• 7:51
  basic
• 7:51
  horseman
• 7:52
  tasks,
• 7:52
  if
• 7:53
  you
• 7:53
  will,
• 7:54
  it's
• 7:54
  like
• 7:54
  a
• 7:54
  double
• 7:55
  problem
• 7:55
  to
• 7:55
  me
• 7:56
  because
• 7:56
  it's
• 7:56
  like
• 7:56
  the
• 7:57
  one
• 7:57
  it's
• 7:57
  not
• 7:57
  being
• 7:58
  taught.
• 7:59
  And
• 7:59
  then
• 7:59
  say,
• 8:00
  so
• 8:00
  and
• 8:00
  so
• 8:00
  shows
• 8:01
  up
• 8:01
  at
• 8:01
  a
• 8:01
  new
• 8:01
  barn,
• 8:02
  they've
• 8:02
  got
• 8:02
  to
• 8:03
  kind
• 8:03
  of
• 8:03
  look
• 8:03
  at
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  scenario
• 8:04
  of
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  new
• 8:04
  client
• 8:04
  or
• 8:05
  new
• 8:05
  horse
• 8:05
  or
• 8:05
  whatever
• 8:05
  that
• 8:06
  they
• 8:06
  have
• 8:06
  and
• 8:06
  say,
• 8:06
  like,
• 8:07
  what
• 8:07
  are
• 8:07
  we
• 8:07
  allowed
• 8:07
  to
• 8:08
  let
• 8:08
  them
• 8:08
  do
• 8:08
  on
• 8:08
  their
• 8:08
  own
• 8:08
  or
• 8:09
  not?
• 8:10
  And
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  feel
• 8:11
  like.
• 8:12
  I
• 8:13
  think
• 8:13
  it
• 8:13
  just.
• 8:13
  It
• 8:13
  kind
• 8:14
  of
• 8:14
  bums
• 8:14
  me
• 8:14
  out
• 8:15
  that
• 8:15
  the
• 8:15
  horsemanship
• 8:16
  back
• 8:16
  in
• 8:16
  the
• 8:17
  barn
• 8:17
  isn't
• 8:17
  being
• 8:18
  taught
• 8:19
  the
• 8:19
  way
• 8:19
  that
• 8:19
  it
• 8:19
  used
• 8:20
  to
• 8:20
  be.
• 8:20
  And
• 8:20
  if
• 8:21
  there's
• 8:21
  something,
• 8:21
  like,
• 8:21
  really
• 8:21
  specific
• 8:22
  you
• 8:22
  want
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  know,
• 8:23
  like,
• 8:23
  say
• 8:23
  your
• 8:24
  horse
• 8:24
  gets
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  cut,
• 8:24
  let's
• 8:25
  just
• 8:25
  say,
• 8:25
  right?
• 8:26
  They
• 8:26
  do
• 8:26
  stupid
• 8:26
  stuff.
• 8:27
  They
• 8:27
  come
• 8:27
  in,
• 8:27
  they
• 8:27
  have
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  cut,
• 8:28
  and
• 8:28
  you're
• 8:28
  like,
• 8:28
  okay,
• 8:28
  how
• 8:29
  do
• 8:29
  I
• 8:29
  take
• 8:29
  care
• 8:29
  of
• 8:30
  this?
• 8:31
  And
• 8:31
  even
• 8:31
  if
• 8:32
  you
• 8:32
  were
• 8:32
  to
• 8:32
  go
• 8:32
  up
• 8:32
  and
• 8:32
  say,
• 8:33
  hey,
• 8:33
  could
• 8:33
  you
• 8:33
  let
• 8:34
  me
• 8:34
  know
• 8:34
  what
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  should
• 8:34
  do
• 8:34
  with
• 8:35
  X,
• 8:35
  Y
• 8:35
  and
• 8:35
  Z,
• 8:35
  there
• 8:35
  are
• 8:35
  going
• 8:36
  to
• 8:36
  be
• 8:36
  certain
• 8:36
  places
• 8:36
  that
• 8:36
  are
• 8:36
  going
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  say,
• 8:37
  okay,
• 8:37
  you're
• 8:37
  going
• 8:37
  to
• 8:38
  wash
• 8:38
  with
• 8:38
  this,
• 8:39
  put
• 8:39
  this
• 8:39
  ointment
• 8:40
  on
• 8:40
  and
• 8:40
  wrap
• 8:40
  with
• 8:40
  that,
• 8:41
  or
• 8:41
  whatever.
• 8:41
  I'm
• 8:41
  just
• 8:42
  making
• 8:42
  this
• 8:42
  up.
• 8:42
  And
• 8:43
  then
• 8:43
  some
• 8:43
  places
• 8:43
  are
• 8:43
  going
• 8:43
  to
• 8:43
  say,
• 8:44
  oh,
• 8:44
  we'll
• 8:44
  take
• 8:44
  care
• 8:44
  of
• 8:44
  that
• 8:44
  for
• 8:44
  you.
• 8:45
  And
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  think,
• 8:46
  like,
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  answer
• 8:46
  should
• 8:46
  not
• 8:47
  be,
• 8:47
  we're
• 8:47
  going
• 8:47
  to
• 8:47
  take
• 8:47
  care
• 8:48
  of
• 8:48
  that
• 8:48
  for
• 8:48
  you.
• 8:48
  If
• 8:48
  you're
• 8:48
  offering
• 8:49
  to
• 8:49
  do
• 8:49
  it
• 8:49
  and.
• 8:49
  You're
• 8:50
  asking
• 8:50
  to
• 8:50
  learn,
• 8:51
  I
• 8:51
  totally
• 8:52
  would
• 8:52
  agree
• 8:52
  with
• 8:52
  you.
• 8:53
  I
• 8:53
  just
• 8:53
  think
• 8:53
  that
• 8:55
  I
• 8:56
  do
• 8:56
  see
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  dilemma.
• 8:57
  If
• 8:57
  you
• 8:58
  have
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  kind
• 8:58
  of
• 8:59
  business
• 9:00
  that
• 9:00
  requires
• 9:01
  you
• 9:01
  to
• 9:02
  hire
• 9:02
  grooms
• 9:03
  and
• 9:03
  have
• 9:03
  people
• 9:04
  who
• 9:04
  want
• 9:04
  full
• 9:05
  service
• 9:05
  and
• 9:05
  full
• 9:06
  care,
• 9:07
  how
• 9:07
  do
• 9:07
  you
• 9:09
  break
• 9:09
  that
• 9:09
  down?
• 9:11
  I
• 9:11
  see
• 9:12
  sometimes
• 9:13
  kids
• 9:13
  who
• 9:14
  are
• 9:14
  so
• 9:15
  overbooked
• 9:17
  in
• 9:18
  terms
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  activities
• 9:19
  that
• 9:20
  they
• 9:20
  come
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  the
• 9:21
  barn,
• 9:21
  they
• 9:21
  take
• 9:21
  a
• 9:22
  lesson,
• 9:22
  they
• 9:23
  pat
• 9:23
  their
• 9:23
  horse,
• 9:23
  they
• 9:24
  hand
• 9:24
  it
• 9:24
  to
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  groom,
• 9:25
  and
• 9:25
  they're
• 9:25
  down
• 9:25
  the
• 9:26
  driveway
• 9:26
  before
• 9:27
  the
• 9:27
  groom
• 9:27
  even
• 9:28
  has
• 9:28
  the
• 9:28
  saddle
• 9:29
  off
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  horse's
• 9:29
  back.
• 9:30
  And
• 9:31
  not
• 9:31
  that
• 9:31
  they
• 9:31
  can
• 9:32
  necessarily
• 9:32
  help
• 9:33
  it,
• 9:34
  but
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  and
• 9:35
  I
• 9:36
  have
• 9:36
  grown
• 9:36
  up
• 9:37
  and
• 9:37
  we've
• 9:37
  been
• 9:38
  exposed
• 9:39
  to
• 9:39
  all
• 9:39
  these
• 9:40
  things.
• 9:41
  Think
• 9:42
  of
• 9:42
  it.
• 9:42
  If
• 9:43
  these
• 9:43
  kids
• 9:44
  coming
• 9:44
  up,
• 9:45
  this
• 9:45
  is
• 9:45
  their
• 9:45
  exposure
• 9:47
  and
• 9:47
  this
• 9:48
  is
• 9:48
  what
• 9:48
  their
• 9:48
  parents
• 9:49
  have
• 9:49
  chosen
• 9:49
  because
• 9:50
  they
• 9:50
  have
• 9:50
  65
• 9:51
  other
• 9:51
  things
• 9:52
  or
• 9:52
  places
• 9:53
  to
• 9:53
  be
• 9:53
  or
• 9:53
  other
• 9:53
  children.
• 9:55
  You
• 9:55
  know,
• 9:56
  it's
• 9:57
  very
• 9:57
  strange.
• 9:58
  It's
• 9:58
  like,
• 9:58
  how
• 9:58
  does
• 9:59
  this
• 9:59
  work?
• 10:00
  Well,
• 10:00
  I
• 10:01
  remember
• 10:02
  wanting
• 10:02
  to
• 10:03
  like,
• 10:04
  I
• 10:04
  think
• 10:04
  my
• 10:04
  brother
• 10:04
  was
• 10:05
  signed
• 10:05
  up
• 10:05
  for
• 10:05
  soccer.
• 10:05
  I
• 10:06
  was
• 10:06
  like
• 10:06
  five
• 10:06
  or
• 10:06
  six
• 10:07
  or
• 10:07
  something
• 10:07
  like
• 10:07
  that.
• 10:08
  And
• 10:09
  I
• 10:09
  wanted
• 10:09
  to
• 10:09
  play
• 10:10
  soccer
• 10:10
  too.
• 10:10
  And
• 10:11
  at
• 10:11
  that
• 10:11
  point
• 10:11
  I
• 10:11
  was
• 10:11
  already
• 10:12
  riding
• 10:12
  and
• 10:13
  I
• 10:13
  was
• 10:13
  showing
• 10:13
  like
• 10:14
  occasionally,
• 10:15
  but
• 10:16
  I
• 10:16
  would
• 10:16
  go
• 10:16
  out
• 10:16
  to
• 10:16
  the
• 10:17
  barn
• 10:17
  and
• 10:17
  have
• 10:17
  my
• 10:17
  lessons
• 10:18
  and
• 10:18
  all
• 10:18
  that
• 10:18
  during
• 10:18
  the
• 10:19
  week
• 10:19
  and
• 10:20
  games
• 10:20
  for
• 10:21
  kids,
• 10:22
  soccer
• 10:22
  Saturday
• 10:23
  morning,
• 10:23
  first
• 10:24
  thing.
• 10:25
  And
• 10:25
  so
• 10:26
  my
• 10:26
  mom
• 10:26
  had
• 10:26
  gone
• 10:27
  to
• 10:27
  sign
• 10:27
  me
• 10:27
  up
• 10:27
  for
• 10:28
  soccer
• 10:28
  and
• 10:28
  she
• 10:28
  was
• 10:28
  like,
• 10:29
  looked
• 10:29
  at
• 10:29
  me
• 10:29
  when
• 10:29
  I
• 10:30
  was
• 10:30
  that
• 10:30
  little
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  said,
• 10:31
  you
• 10:31
  can
• 10:31
  play
• 10:31
  soccer,
• 10:32
  you
• 10:32
  can
• 10:32
  ride
• 10:32
  horses.
• 10:33
  Which
• 10:33
  one
• 10:33
  do
• 10:33
  you
• 10:33
  want
• 10:33
  to
• 10:33
  do
• 10:34
  for
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  fall?
• 10:35
  I
• 10:35
  was
• 10:35
  six,
• 10:36
  having
• 10:36
  to
• 10:36
  make
• 10:36
  a
• 10:36
  choice
• 10:37
  and
• 10:38
  somehow
• 10:38
  it's
• 10:39
  now
• 10:40
  I've
• 10:40
  got
• 10:40
  to
• 10:40
  do,
• 10:40
  be
• 10:41
  able
• 10:41
  to
• 10:41
  do
• 10:41
  it
• 10:41
  all
• 10:42
  where
• 10:43
  it
• 10:43
  was
• 10:43
  like
• 10:43
  if
• 10:43
  you're
• 10:43
  riding
• 10:44
  horses,
• 10:44
  that
• 10:44
  right,
• 10:45
  like
• 10:45
  that's
• 10:45
  your
• 10:45
  responsibility.
• 10:46
  Your
• 10:46
  responsibility
• 10:47
  is
• 10:47
  to
• 10:48
  the
• 10:48
  animal.
• 10:49
  You
• 10:49
  don't
• 10:49
  get
• 10:49
  to
• 10:49
  just
• 10:49
  come
• 10:50
  and
• 10:50
  show
• 10:50
  up
• 10:50
  when
• 10:50
  you
• 10:50
  want
• 10:51
  to
• 10:51
  show
• 10:51
  up
• 10:52
  and
• 10:52
  then
• 10:52
  leave.
• 10:53
  We're
• 10:53
  pouring
• 10:54
  all
• 10:54
  of
• 10:54
  this
• 10:54
  money
• 10:55
  into
• 10:55
  this
• 10:55
  sport
• 10:55
  and
• 10:56
  into
• 10:56
  this
• 10:56
  animal.
• 10:56
  And
• 10:57
  yes,
• 10:57
  it's
• 10:58
  boarded
• 10:58
  so
• 10:58
  somebody
• 10:59
  takes
• 10:59
  care
• 11:00
  of
• 11:00
  it
• 11:00
  in
• 11:00
  terms
• 11:00
  of
• 11:01
  feeding
• 11:01
  and
• 11:01
  all
• 11:01
  that,
• 11:01
  but
• 11:01
  you
• 11:02
  were
• 11:02
  a
• 11:02
  part
• 11:02
  of
• 11:02
  that
• 11:02
  as
• 11:03
  much
• 11:03
  as
• 11:03
  you
• 11:03
  could
• 11:03
  be.
• 11:04
  And
• 11:04
  I
• 11:04
  think
• 11:04
  as
• 11:05
  a
• 11:05
  working
• 11:06
  adult
• 11:06
  or
• 11:06
  a
• 11:07
  parent
• 11:07
  or
• 11:07
  something
• 11:07
  like
• 11:08
  that,
• 11:08
  it's
• 11:09
  one
• 11:09
  thing
• 11:09
  to
• 11:09
  say,
• 11:09
  oh,
• 11:09
  I'm
• 11:10
  going
• 11:10
  to
• 11:10
  utilize
• 11:11
  the
• 11:11
  additional
• 11:11
  services
• 11:12
  offered
• 11:12
  this
• 11:13
  week
• 11:13
  or
• 11:13
  how
• 11:14
  do
• 11:14
  I
• 11:14
  make
• 11:14
  it
• 11:14
  work
• 11:14
  so
• 11:15
  I
• 11:15
  can
• 11:15
  get
• 11:15
  to
• 11:15
  my
• 11:15
  meeting
• 11:16
  on
• 11:16
  time
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  still
• 11:16
  have
• 11:17
  a
• 11:17
  lesson
• 11:17
  today.
• 11:18
  That's
• 11:18
  different
• 11:19
  to
• 11:19
  me
• 11:19
  than
• 11:20
  sort
• 11:20
  of
• 11:20
  what
• 11:20
  you're
• 11:20
  seeing
• 11:21
  in
• 11:21
  like
• 11:21
  the
• 11:22
  teenage
• 11:22
  sort
• 11:23
  of
• 11:23
  stuff
• 11:23
  or
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  younger
• 11:24
  kids
• 11:24
  where
• 11:24
  you
• 11:24
  just
• 11:24
  show
• 11:25
  up
• 11:25
  and
• 11:26
  you
• 11:26
  plop
• 11:26
  on
• 11:27
  the
• 11:27
  horse.
• 11:27
  And
• 11:27
  I
• 11:27
  also,
• 11:28
  I
• 11:28
  think
• 11:28
  it's
• 11:28
  interesting
• 11:29
  too,
• 11:29
  this
• 11:29
  is
• 11:30
  sort
• 11:30
  of
• 11:31
  pivoting
• 11:31
  in
• 11:32
  the
• 11:32
  younger,
• 11:33
  you
• 11:33
  know,
• 11:33
  beginner
• 11:34
  lessons
• 11:34
  and
• 11:34
  that
• 11:34
  kind
• 11:35
  of
• 11:35
  thing.
• 11:36
  The
• 11:36
  protection
• 11:36
  to
• 11:37
  make
• 11:37
  sure
• 11:37
  that
• 11:37
  they
• 11:37
  never
• 11:38
  fall
• 11:38
  off
• 11:39
  or
• 11:40
  you're
• 11:40
  not
• 11:40
  going
• 11:40
  to.
• 11:41
  You
• 11:41
  don't
• 11:41
  take
• 11:41
  an
• 11:41
  inexperienced
• 11:42
  rider
• 11:42
  and
• 11:42
  tell
• 11:43
  them
• 11:43
  to
• 11:43
  go
• 11:43
  jump
• 11:43
  a
• 11:43
  two
• 11:43
  foot
• 11:43
  jump.
• 11:44
  I'm
• 11:44
  not
• 11:44
  talking
• 11:44
  about
• 11:45
  ridiculous
• 11:46
  risk.
• 11:46
  I'm
• 11:47
  saying
• 11:47
  learning
• 11:48
  and
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  risk
• 11:49
  that
• 11:49
  comes
• 11:49
  along
• 11:49
  with
• 11:50
  learning
• 11:50
  how
• 11:50
  to
• 11:50
  ride.
• 11:51
  I.
• 11:51
  It's
• 11:52
  a
• 11:52
  little
• 11:52
  cushy.
• 11:53
  Oh
• 11:53
  well,
• 11:53
  yeah,
• 11:54
  please
• 11:54
  don't
• 11:54
  struggle,
• 11:55
  don't
• 11:55
  struggle.
• 11:56
  I'm
• 11:57
  like,
• 11:57
  well,
• 11:57
  it's
• 11:57
  okay
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  struggle.
• 11:58
  That's
• 11:58
  how
• 11:58
  you
• 11:58
  learn.
• 11:59
  I
• 11:59
  think
• 12:00
  that's
• 12:00
  what
• 12:00
  we're
• 12:00
  saying
• 12:01
  is,
• 12:01
  is
• 12:01
  that
• 12:01
  once
• 12:02
  all
• 12:02
  these
• 12:02
  systems
• 12:02
  are
• 12:02
  in
• 12:03
  place,
• 12:03
  it
• 12:03
  starts
• 12:04
  to
• 12:04
  control
• 12:04
  all
• 12:04
  the
• 12:05
  variables
• 12:05
  in
• 12:05
  terms
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  falling
• 12:06
  off
• 12:07
  or
• 12:07
  you
• 12:08
  know
• 12:08
  whatever
• 12:08
  it
• 12:08
  is
• 12:08
  you.
• 12:09
  Do,
• 12:09
  so
• 12:10
  make
• 12:10
  sure
• 12:10
  it's
• 12:10
  always
• 12:10
  positive.
• 12:12
  Right?
• 12:13
  So
• 12:13
  suddenly,
• 12:13
  the
• 12:14
  more
• 12:14
  the
• 12:14
  system
• 12:14
  does,
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  less
• 12:15
  the
• 12:16
  rider
• 12:16
  has
• 12:16
  to
• 12:17
  do.
• 12:17
  And
• 12:18
  there's
• 12:19
  so
• 12:19
  many
• 12:19
  things
• 12:19
  that
• 12:19
  just
• 12:20
  can't
• 12:20
  be
• 12:20
  allowed
• 12:21
  because
• 12:21
  it
• 12:22
  is
• 12:22
  all
• 12:22
  about
• 12:23
  liability,
• 12:24
  which
• 12:26
  is
• 12:26
  such
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  shame,
• 12:27
  really.
• 12:28
  My
• 12:28
  granddaughter,
• 12:29
  for
• 12:29
  example,
• 12:30
  was
• 12:30
  just
• 12:30
  having
• 12:31
  the
• 12:31
  best
• 12:31
  time
• 12:32
  ever
• 12:32
  riding
• 12:33
  and
• 12:33
  absolutely
• 12:34
  loved
• 12:34
  it.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  then
• 12:35
  somehow
• 12:36
  she
• 12:36
  got
• 12:36
  scared
• 12:38
  about
• 12:38
  falling
• 12:38
  off.
• 12:38
  When
• 12:39
  it
• 12:39
  got
• 12:39
  time
• 12:39
  to
• 12:40
  start
• 12:40
  to
• 12:40
  canter,
• 12:41
  she'd
• 12:41
  never
• 12:41
  fallen
• 12:42
  off.
• 12:42
  She
• 12:42
  didn't
• 12:43
  act
• 12:43
  like
• 12:43
  she's
• 12:44
  scared
• 12:44
  of
• 12:44
  anything.
• 12:45
  She
• 12:45
  plays
• 12:45
  every
• 12:46
  sport,
• 12:47
  but
• 12:47
  suddenly
• 12:48
  got
• 12:48
  scared
• 12:49
  of
• 12:49
  falling
• 12:49
  off.
• 12:49
  And
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  decision
• 12:50
  was
• 12:51
  made
• 12:51
  that
• 12:51
  maybe
• 12:52
  just
• 12:53
  wait
• 12:53
  until
• 12:54
  she
• 12:54
  grows
• 12:55
  up
• 12:55
  a
• 12:55
  little
• 12:55
  more
• 12:55
  and
• 12:55
  gets
• 12:56
  past
• 12:56
  all
• 12:56
  that.
• 12:57
  Trainers
• 12:58
  in
• 12:59
  the
• 12:59
  old
• 12:59
  days
• 12:59
  would
• 13:00
  probably
• 13:00
  say,
• 13:01
  here,
• 13:01
  let
• 13:01
  me
• 13:01
  show
• 13:02
  you
• 13:02
  what
• 13:02
  it
• 13:02
  feels
• 13:02
  like
• 13:02
  to
• 13:02
  fall
• 13:03
  off.
• 13:03
  And
• 13:04
  they
• 13:04
  can't
• 13:04
  do
• 13:04
  that
• 13:04
  anymore.
• 13:05
  Well,
• 13:06
  I
• 13:07
  wanted
• 13:07
  to
• 13:07
  jump.
• 13:07
  Like,
• 13:08
  it's
• 13:08
  all
• 13:08
  I
• 13:08
  wanted
• 13:09
  to
• 13:09
  do.
• 13:09
  And
• 13:09
  then
• 13:09
  when
• 13:10
  it
• 13:10
  came
• 13:10
  time
• 13:10
  to
• 13:10
  jump,
• 13:11
  the
• 13:11
  jumps
• 13:11
  would
• 13:11
  get
• 13:12
  a
• 13:12
  little
• 13:12
  bigger.
• 13:13
  And
• 13:13
  then
• 13:13
  I
• 13:14
  was
• 13:14
  not
• 13:15
  terrified,
• 13:16
  like,
• 13:16
  oh,
• 13:17
  my
• 13:17
  God,
• 13:17
  something
• 13:18
  really
• 13:18
  bad
• 13:18
  is
• 13:19
  gonna
• 13:19
  happen.
• 13:19
  But
• 13:19
  my
• 13:20
  nerves
• 13:20
  were
• 13:20
  almost
• 13:21
  inhibiting
• 13:21
  my
• 13:22
  ability
• 13:22
  to
• 13:22
  just
• 13:23
  go
• 13:23
  for
• 13:23
  it.
• 13:24
  I
• 13:24
  mean,
• 13:25
  I
• 13:25
  was
• 13:25
  also
• 13:25
  very,
• 13:25
  very
• 13:26
  little,
• 13:26
  but
• 13:27
  my
• 13:27
  trainer
• 13:28
  would
• 13:28
  run
• 13:28
  beside
• 13:29
  me
• 13:29
  when
• 13:29
  she
• 13:29
  was
• 13:29
  like,
• 13:30
  okay,
• 13:30
  we're
• 13:30
  gonna.
• 13:30
  We're
• 13:31
  gonna
• 13:31
  jump
• 13:31
  a
• 13:31
  little
• 13:31
  bigger
• 13:32
  today.
• 13:32
  I'll
• 13:32
  be
• 13:32
  like,
• 13:32
  oh,
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  don't
• 13:33
  know
• 13:33
  if
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  can
• 13:33
  do.
• 13:33
  I
• 13:34
  don't
• 13:34
  know
• 13:34
  if
• 13:34
  I
• 13:34
  can
• 13:34
  do
• 13:34
  it.
• 13:35
  And
• 13:35
  she's
• 13:35
  like,
• 13:35
  okay,
• 13:35
  well,
• 13:35
  if
• 13:36
  I
• 13:36
  can
• 13:36
  jump
• 13:36
  it
• 13:36
  on
• 13:36
  my
• 13:36
  two
• 13:37
  legs,
• 13:37
  your
• 13:37
  horse
• 13:37
  can
• 13:38
  definitely
• 13:38
  jump
• 13:38
  it
• 13:38
  on
• 13:38
  her
• 13:39
  four.
• 13:39
  Like,
• 13:39
  it's
• 13:40
  going
• 13:40
  to
• 13:40
  be
• 13:40
  fine.
• 13:40
  And
• 13:41
  she.
• 13:41
  She
• 13:41
  would
• 13:41
  run
• 13:42
  beside
• 13:42
  me
• 13:43
  and
• 13:43
  jump
• 13:43
  the
• 13:43
  jump
• 13:44
  at
• 13:44
  the
• 13:44
  same
• 13:44
  time.
• 13:44
  And
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  think
• 13:45
  about
• 13:45
  that
• 13:45
  now,
• 13:45
  and
• 13:45
  I'm
• 13:45
  like,
• 13:46
  that's
• 13:46
  crazy.
• 13:47
  But
• 13:48
  she
• 13:48
  always
• 13:49
  wanted
• 13:49
  her
• 13:49
  kids
• 13:50
  to
• 13:50
  have
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  confidence.
• 13:50
  It
• 13:51
  was
• 13:51
  so
• 13:51
  funny.
• 13:52
  I
• 13:53
  heard
• 13:53
  the
• 13:53
  exact
• 13:53
  same
• 13:54
  story.
• 13:54
  One
• 13:55
  of
• 13:55
  the.
• 13:55
  The
• 13:56
  trainers
• 13:57
  at
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  barn
• 13:58
  where
• 13:58
  I
• 13:58
  am,
• 14:00
  one
• 14:00
  of
• 14:00
  the
• 14:00
  kids,
• 14:01
  got
• 14:01
  a
• 14:01
  little
• 14:01
  afraid,
• 14:02
  and
• 14:03
  literally,
• 14:04
  she
• 14:04
  would
• 14:06
  canter
• 14:07
  alongside
• 14:07
  of
• 14:07
  her,
• 14:08
  holding
• 14:08
  her
• 14:08
  leg
• 14:09
  and
• 14:09
  just
• 14:10
  making
• 14:10
  sure
• 14:11
  that
• 14:11
  she
• 14:11
  was
• 14:11
  okay.
• 14:12
  And
• 14:12
  she
• 14:12
  did.
• 14:13
  She
• 14:13
  worked
• 14:13
  through
• 14:13
  and
• 14:14
  got
• 14:14
  over
• 14:14
  it.
• 14:15
  But.
• 14:17
  It's
• 14:17
  unusual,
• 14:18
  I
• 14:18
  think.
• 14:18
  I
• 14:19
  don't
• 14:20
  know
• 14:20
  how
• 14:20
  many
• 14:20
  people
• 14:20
  have
• 14:21
  the
• 14:22
  time
• 14:22
  or
• 14:23
  energy
• 14:23
  to
• 14:23
  do
• 14:24
  all
• 14:24
  that.
• 14:24
  Well,
• 14:24
  right.
• 14:25
  The
• 14:25
  time
• 14:25
  and
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  energy
• 14:26
  to
• 14:26
  put
• 14:26
  in.
• 14:26
  And
• 14:27
  I
• 14:27
  think
• 14:27
  that
• 14:27
  that's,
• 14:28
  like,
• 14:28
  so
• 14:29
  important
• 14:29
  because
• 14:31
  that
• 14:31
  kid
• 14:32
  had
• 14:32
  her
• 14:32
  trainer
• 14:33
  say,
• 14:33
  you
• 14:33
  know,
• 14:33
  like,
• 14:33
  I
• 14:34
  believe
• 14:34
  in
• 14:34
  you,
• 14:34
  basically.
• 14:35
  You
• 14:35
  can
• 14:35
  do
• 14:36
  this.
• 14:36
  So
• 14:36
  we're
• 14:37
  gonna
• 14:37
  go
• 14:37
  do
• 14:37
  it.
• 14:37
  Even
• 14:38
  if
• 14:38
  it's
• 14:38
  a
• 14:38
  little
• 14:38
  bit
• 14:38
  uncomfortable.
• 14:40
  We're
• 14:40
  gonna
• 14:40
  try
• 14:40
  something
• 14:41
  and
• 14:41
  see
• 14:41
  if
• 14:41
  we
• 14:41
  can
• 14:41
  make
• 14:42
  it
• 14:42
  work.
• 14:42
  And
• 14:42
  I
• 14:43
  think
• 14:43
  that
• 14:43
  that's
• 14:43
  a
• 14:43
  little
• 14:43
  bit
• 14:44
  of
• 14:44
  what's
• 14:44
  happening.
• 14:45
  It's
• 14:45
  like
• 14:45
  you
• 14:45
  don't
• 14:46
  want
• 14:46
  the
• 14:46
  kid.
• 14:46
  Like,
• 14:46
  you
• 14:47
  see
• 14:47
  a
• 14:47
  lot
• 14:47
  of
• 14:47
  programs
• 14:47
  where,
• 14:48
  like,
• 14:48
  the
• 14:48
  kid
• 14:48
  can't
• 14:48
  ever
• 14:48
  be
• 14:49
  uncomfortable
• 14:49
  and
• 14:49
  they
• 14:50
  can't
• 14:50
  ever
• 14:50
  be
• 14:50
  asked
• 14:51
  to
• 14:51
  work
• 14:52
  a
• 14:52
  little
• 14:52
  harder
• 14:53
  or.
• 14:53
  I
• 14:54
  had
• 14:54
  a
• 14:54
  really
• 14:54
  tough
• 14:55
  day
• 14:55
  to
• 14:55
  day.
• 14:55
  And
• 14:55
  some
• 14:56
  of
• 14:56
  it
• 14:56
  is.
• 14:56
  I
• 14:57
  don't
• 14:57
  know
• 14:57
  if
• 14:57
  it's
• 14:57
  unrealistic
• 14:58
  expectations
• 14:59
  of
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  clients
• 15:01
  or
• 15:03
  they
• 15:03
  see
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  social.
• 15:05
  You
• 15:05
  know,
• 15:05
  social
• 15:05
  media
• 15:06
  is
• 15:07
  everywhere
• 15:07
  and
• 15:07
  they
• 15:08
  see
• 15:08
  how
• 15:08
  somebody
• 15:09
  else
• 15:09
  is
• 15:09
  doing
• 15:09
  it
• 15:09
  and
• 15:10
  expect
• 15:10
  that
• 15:10
  it's
• 15:10
  always
• 15:10
  going
• 15:11
  to
• 15:11
  be
• 15:11
  rainbows
• 15:11
  and
• 15:12
  butterflies.
• 15:12
  I
• 15:13
  don't
• 15:13
  know.
• 15:14
  It's
• 15:14
  a
• 15:14
  hard
• 15:14
  perspective
• 15:15
  for
• 15:15
  me
• 15:15
  to
• 15:16
  understand
• 15:17
  because
• 15:17
  it's
• 15:17
  just
• 15:18
  not
• 15:18
  mine.
• 15:19
  And
• 15:20
  my
• 15:20
  experience,
• 15:21
  I
• 15:21
  completely
• 15:21
  get
• 15:22
  it.
• 15:22
  What
• 15:22
  we're
• 15:22
  really
• 15:22
  talking
• 15:23
  about
• 15:23
  is
• 15:23
  the
• 15:24
  system.
• 15:25
  It
• 15:25
  has
• 15:25
  now
• 15:26
  been
• 15:26
  created
• 15:26
  to
• 15:27
  remove
• 15:28
  risk.
• 15:29
  So
• 15:29
  when
• 15:29
  you
• 15:29
  remove
• 15:30
  the
• 15:30
  risk,
• 15:31
  you
• 15:31
  also
• 15:31
  remove
• 15:32
  a
• 15:32
  lot
• 15:32
  of
• 15:32
  the
• 15:32
  moments
• 15:32
  where
• 15:33
  people
• 15:33
  actually
• 15:34
  learn
• 15:34
  something.
• 15:35
  Sure.
• 15:36
  And
• 15:36
  I
• 15:36
  think
• 15:36
  where
• 15:37
  this
• 15:37
  really
• 15:38
  shows
• 15:38
  up
• 15:38
  and
• 15:38
  where
• 15:38
  it
• 15:39
  gets
• 15:39
  a
• 15:39
  little
• 15:39
  uncomfortable
• 15:40
  is
• 15:40
  when
• 15:41
  you
• 15:41
  look
• 15:41
  at
• 15:41
  lesson
• 15:42
  programs.
• 15:43
  Right.
• 15:44
  Some
• 15:44
  friends
• 15:45
  of
• 15:45
  mine
• 15:45
  teach
• 15:47
  the
• 15:48
  up
• 15:48
  down
• 15:49
  lessons.
• 15:49
  And
• 15:50
  I
• 15:50
  think
• 15:50
  that's
• 15:51
  a
• 15:51
  really
• 15:51
  hard
• 15:51
  thing
• 15:52
  to
• 15:52
  do
• 15:52
  because
• 15:52
  you
• 15:53
  have
• 15:53
  that
• 15:53
  whole
• 15:53
  range
• 15:54
  of,
• 15:55
  I'm
• 15:55
  scared,
• 15:56
  I'm
• 15:56
  not
• 15:56
  scared.
• 15:57
  I
• 15:57
  want
• 15:57
  to
• 15:57
  do
• 15:57
  too
• 15:57
  much,
• 15:58
  I
• 15:58
  can't
• 15:58
  do
• 15:58
  enough.
• 15:59
  And
• 15:59
  then
• 16:00
  these
• 16:00
  kids
• 16:02
  get
• 16:04
  tired
• 16:04
  because
• 16:05
  sometimes
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  ponies
• 16:06
  are
• 16:06
  not
• 16:07
  exactly
• 16:09
  ready
• 16:09
  to
• 16:09
  go
• 16:10
  that
• 16:10
  they're
• 16:10
  riding
• 16:11
  on,
• 16:11
  so
• 16:11
  they
• 16:11
  have
• 16:12
  to
• 16:12
  work
• 16:12
  twice
• 16:12
  as
• 16:12
  hard.
• 16:12
  Which
• 16:13
  kind
• 16:13
  of
• 16:13
  is
• 16:13
  interesting
• 16:14
  because
• 16:15
  if
• 16:15
  you
• 16:16
  ha.
• 16:16
  If
• 16:16
  you
• 16:16
  don't
• 16:17
  ha.
• 16:17
  If
• 16:17
  you
• 16:17
  have
• 16:17
  to
• 16:17
  kick
• 16:18
  all
• 16:18
  the
• 16:18
  time,
• 16:18
  then
• 16:19
  you're
• 16:19
  getting
• 16:19
  stronger.
• 16:20
  But
• 16:20
  at
• 16:20
  the
• 16:20
  same
• 16:20
  time,
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  can
• 16:21
  see
• 16:21
  how
• 16:22
  you
• 16:22
  would
• 16:22
  get
• 16:23
  really
• 16:23
  sick
• 16:23
  of
• 16:23
  it
• 16:23
  and
• 16:24
  not
• 16:24
  try
• 16:25
  to
• 16:25
  do
• 16:25
  it
• 16:25
  anymore.
• 16:27
  Well,
• 16:27
  I
• 16:27
  mean,
• 16:28
  but
• 16:28
  it's.
• 16:29
  It's
• 16:29
  a
• 16:29
  little
• 16:29
  like
• 16:29
  I
• 16:30
  remember
• 16:30
  doing,
• 16:31
  like,
• 16:32
  where
• 16:32
  I
• 16:32
  grew
• 16:32
  up
• 16:32
  riding,
• 16:33
  we.
• 16:33
  Most
• 16:33
  everybody
• 16:34
  had
• 16:34
  their
• 16:35
  own
• 16:35
  horse
• 16:36
  of
• 16:36
  some
• 16:36
  kind,
• 16:36
  whether
• 16:37
  it
• 16:37
  was
• 16:37
  leased
• 16:37
  or
• 16:37
  borrowed
• 16:38
  or
• 16:38
  was
• 16:38
  theirs
• 16:39
  or
• 16:39
  whatever.
• 16:39
  But
• 16:39
  every
• 16:40
  now
• 16:40
  and
• 16:40
  then
• 16:41
  there
• 16:41
  would
• 16:41
  be
• 16:41
  a
• 16:42
  little
• 16:42
  bit
• 16:42
  of
• 16:42
  a
• 16:42
  switch
• 16:42
  around
• 16:43
  just
• 16:43
  so
• 16:43
  you
• 16:43
  could
• 16:44
  get
• 16:44
  on
• 16:44
  something
• 16:45
  different.
• 16:45
  And
• 16:46
  I
• 16:46
  remember
• 16:46
  there
• 16:46
  was
• 16:46
  this
• 16:47
  one
• 16:47
  little
• 16:47
  pony,
• 16:47
  and
• 16:48
  she
• 16:48
  was.
• 16:48
  There
• 16:48
  was
• 16:49
  one
• 16:49
  kid
• 16:49
  that
• 16:49
  could
• 16:49
  just
• 16:49
  ride
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  snot
• 16:50
  out
• 16:50
  of
• 16:50
  her.
• 16:51
  She
• 16:51
  was
• 16:51
  this
• 16:52
  little
• 16:52
  paint
• 16:52
  pony.
• 16:54
  If
• 16:54
  you
• 16:54
  got
• 16:54
  stuck
• 16:55
  riding
• 16:55
  the
• 16:55
  paint
• 16:55
  pony,
• 16:56
  it
• 16:56
  was
• 16:56
  because
• 16:57
  the
• 16:57
  trainer
• 16:57
  was
• 16:57
  like,
• 16:57
  you
• 16:58
  need
• 16:58
  to
• 16:58
  get
• 16:58
  stronger.
• 17:00
  Because
• 17:00
  she
• 17:00
  was
• 17:00
  wicked.
• 17:01
  I
• 17:02
  mean,
• 17:02
  and
• 17:02
  not
• 17:02
  like
• 17:02
  dangerous
• 17:03
  wicked.
• 17:04
  She'd
• 17:04
  sit
• 17:04
  there
• 17:05
  and
• 17:05
  let
• 17:05
  you
• 17:05
  kick
• 17:05
  until
• 17:06
  the
• 17:06
  cows
• 17:06
  come
• 17:06
  home.
• 17:06
  Like
• 17:07
  rolling
• 17:07
  her
• 17:07
  eyes
• 17:08
  in
• 17:08
  the
• 17:08
  back
• 17:08
  of
• 17:08
  her
• 17:08
  head
• 17:08
  like,
• 17:08
  I'm
• 17:09
  not
• 17:09
  moving.
• 17:10
  Try
• 17:10
  harder.
• 17:11
  And
• 17:12
  you
• 17:12
  were
• 17:12
  like,
• 17:13
  why
• 17:13
  do
• 17:13
  I
• 17:13
  have
• 17:13
  to
• 17:13
  do
• 17:13
  that
• 17:14
  today.
• 17:15
  But
• 17:16
  you
• 17:16
  got
• 17:16
  to
• 17:17
  learn
• 17:17
  some
• 17:17
  determination
• 17:17
  and
• 17:18
  some
• 17:18
  grit.
• 17:18
  You
• 17:19
  do.
• 17:19
  And
• 17:19
  that's
• 17:20
  what's
• 17:20
  so
• 17:20
  weird,
• 17:20
  is
• 17:21
  because
• 17:21
  this
• 17:21
  was
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  entry
• 17:23
  point
• 17:23
  into
• 17:23
  the
• 17:24
  sport.
• 17:24
  But
• 17:25
  now
• 17:25
  you
• 17:25
  hear
• 17:26
  more
• 17:26
  and
• 17:26
  more
• 17:26
  trainers
• 17:27
  saying
• 17:27
  that
• 17:27
  they
• 17:27
  don't
• 17:28
  want
• 17:28
  to
• 17:28
  do
• 17:28
  lesson
• 17:28
  programs
• 17:29
  or
• 17:30
  they're
• 17:30
  going
• 17:30
  to
• 17:30
  phase
• 17:31
  them
• 17:31
  out
• 17:31
  completely.
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  don't
• 17:32
  know
• 17:33
  if
• 17:33
  it's
• 17:33
  because,
• 17:34
  you
• 17:35
  know,
• 17:35
  do
• 17:35
  they
• 17:35
  feel
• 17:36
  that
• 17:36
  it's
• 17:37
  not
• 17:38
  financially
• 17:38
  attractive?
• 17:39
  I
• 17:40
  could
• 17:40
  only
• 17:40
  assume
• 17:40
  because
• 17:42
  I
• 17:42
  don't
• 17:43
  run
• 17:43
  a
• 17:43
  business.
• 17:43
  I
• 17:44
  don't
• 17:44
  know.
• 17:45
  But
• 17:45
  yeah,
• 17:46
  you
• 17:46
  think
• 17:46
  about
• 17:46
  like
• 17:46
  the
• 17:46
  overhead
• 17:47
  of
• 17:48
  you've
• 17:48
  gotta
• 17:48
  feed
• 17:49
  house,
• 17:49
  all
• 17:49
  of
• 17:50
  that
• 17:50
  and
• 17:50
  you've
• 17:50
  gotta
• 17:51
  either
• 17:51
  like
• 17:51
  free
• 17:51
  lease
• 17:52
  or
• 17:52
  own
• 17:52
  the
• 17:52
  ponies.
• 17:53
  And
• 17:53
  so
• 17:54
  that's
• 17:54
  going
• 17:54
  on
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  business
• 17:55
  owner
• 17:55
  slash
• 17:55
  trainer's
• 17:56
  bill.
• 17:57
  And
• 17:57
  can
• 17:57
  they
• 17:57
  make
• 17:57
  enough
• 17:58
  money
• 17:58
  from
• 17:58
  the
• 17:59
  lesson
• 17:59
  program
• 17:59
  if
• 18:00
  they're
• 18:00
  doing
• 18:01
  a
• 18:01
  local
• 18:02
  rated
• 18:02
  show
• 18:03
  program
• 18:03
  at
• 18:03
  the
• 18:04
  same
• 18:04
  time?
• 18:05
  I
• 18:05
  don't
• 18:05
  know
• 18:05
  if
• 18:05
  it's.
• 18:06
  Trying
• 18:06
  to
• 18:06
  have
• 18:06
  both
• 18:07
  of
• 18:07
  those
• 18:07
  types
• 18:08
  of
• 18:08
  programs
• 18:08
  at
• 18:08
  once
• 18:09
  is
• 18:09
  what
• 18:09
  makes
• 18:09
  it
• 18:10
  hard
• 18:10
  or
• 18:11
  if
• 18:11
  it's
• 18:11
  easier
• 18:12
  if
• 18:12
  like
• 18:13
  the
• 18:13
  type
• 18:13
  of
• 18:14
  program
• 18:14
  you
• 18:14
  want
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  be
• 18:15
  running
• 18:15
  is
• 18:15
  a
• 18:15
  lesson
• 18:16
  program
• 18:16
  and
• 18:16
  that's,
• 18:17
  that's
• 18:17
  what
• 18:18
  you're
• 18:18
  doing
• 18:18
  so
• 18:19
  you've
• 18:19
  got
• 18:19
  enough
• 18:20
  foot
• 18:21
  traffic
• 18:21
  to
• 18:21
  keep
• 18:22
  it
• 18:22
  afloat
• 18:22
  and
• 18:22
  make
• 18:22
  a
• 18:22
  living
• 18:23
  and
• 18:23
  doing
• 18:23
  and
• 18:23
  doing
• 18:24
  all
• 18:24
  of
• 18:24
  that.
• 18:25
  I
• 18:25
  think
• 18:25
  back
• 18:25
  about
• 18:26
  growing
• 18:26
  up
• 18:27
  and
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  don't
• 18:27
  recall
• 18:28
  necessarily
• 18:30
  that
• 18:31
  there
• 18:31
  were
• 18:31
  lesson
• 18:32
  horses.
• 18:33
  At
• 18:34
  one
• 18:34
  of
• 18:34
  my
• 18:35
  main
• 18:36
  trainers,
• 18:36
  I.
• 18:36
  Was
• 18:36
  just
• 18:37
  about
• 18:37
  to
• 18:37
  say
• 18:37
  something,
• 18:39
  so.
• 18:39
  I
• 18:39
  don't
• 18:39
  know
• 18:40
  if
• 18:40
  this
• 18:40
  is
• 18:41
  something
• 18:41
  new
• 18:42
  or
• 18:42
  not.
• 18:44
  I
• 18:44
  really
• 18:45
  don't
• 18:45
  even
• 18:45
  know.
• 18:45
  How
• 18:46
  did
• 18:46
  we
• 18:46
  learn
• 18:46
  how
• 18:47
  to
• 18:47
  ride?
• 18:47
  You
• 18:48
  didn't
• 18:48
  have
• 18:48
  a
• 18:49
  lesson
• 18:49
  horse
• 18:50
  to
• 18:50
  take
• 18:50
  a
• 18:50
  lesson
• 18:51
  on
• 18:52
  because
• 18:52
  not
• 18:52
  everybody
• 18:54
  loves
• 18:54
  the
• 18:55
  sport
• 18:55
  enough
• 18:56
  starting
• 18:56
  out
• 18:56
  to
• 18:57
  say,
• 18:57
  oh,
• 18:57
  I'm
• 18:57
  going
• 18:58
  to
• 18:58
  go
• 18:58
  spend
• 18:59
  lots
• 18:59
  of
• 18:59
  money
• 19:00
  to
• 19:00
  go
• 19:00
  buy
• 19:00
  a
• 19:00
  horse
• 19:01
  and
• 19:02
  have
• 19:02
  it.
• 19:02
  So.
• 19:03
  Well,
• 19:03
  it
• 19:04
  kind
• 19:04
  of,
• 19:04
  for
• 19:04
  us,
• 19:04
  like,
• 19:05
  I
• 19:05
  think
• 19:05
  it
• 19:05
  was
• 19:05
  you
• 19:06
  might
• 19:06
  be
• 19:06
  able
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  lesson
• 19:06
  on
• 19:06
  a
• 19:07
  pony
• 19:07
  in
• 19:07
  the
• 19:07
  barn
• 19:08
  because
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  pony
• 19:09
  needed
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  get
• 19:09
  worked
• 19:09
  that
• 19:10
  day
• 19:10
  or
• 19:10
  something.
• 19:10
  Like,
• 19:10
  I
• 19:11
  remember
• 19:11
  seeing
• 19:11
  some
• 19:12
  of
• 19:12
  that.
• 19:12
  Obviously
• 19:13
  permission
• 19:13
  was
• 19:13
  granted
• 19:14
  by
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  owners,
• 19:14
  like
• 19:15
  to
• 19:15
  allow
• 19:15
  that
• 19:15
  to
• 19:15
  happen.
• 19:16
  You
• 19:16
  know,
• 19:16
  we're
• 19:17
  not
• 19:17
  talking
• 19:17
  about
• 19:17
  a
• 19:17
  $40,000
• 19:18
  pony.
• 19:19
  And
• 19:19
  it
• 19:19
  was
• 19:20
  like,
• 19:20
  that's
• 19:20
  what
• 19:20
  you
• 19:20
  were
• 19:20
  learning
• 19:21
  to
• 19:21
  ride
• 19:21
  on.
• 19:21
  And
• 19:22
  then
• 19:22
  I
• 19:22
  saw
• 19:22
  people
• 19:22
  graduate
• 19:23
  and
• 19:23
  say,
• 19:23
  like,
• 19:23
  okay,
• 19:24
  I'm
• 19:24
  really
• 19:24
  into
• 19:25
  this
• 19:25
  now.
• 19:26
  Know,
• 19:26
  like,
• 19:26
  the
• 19:26
  people
• 19:26
  I
• 19:26
  came
• 19:26
  up
• 19:27
  with
• 19:27
  were
• 19:27
  going
• 19:27
  to
• 19:27
  get
• 19:27
  something
• 19:28
  that
• 19:28
  can
• 19:28
  be
• 19:28
  more
• 19:28
  competitive
• 19:29
  at
• 19:29
  this
• 19:29
  point.
• 19:30
  But
• 19:30
  I
• 19:31
  think
• 19:31
  almost,
• 19:32
  almost
• 19:34
  everyone
• 19:36
  that
• 19:36
  I
• 19:36
  grew
• 19:36
  up
• 19:36
  riding
• 19:37
  with,
• 19:37
  like,
• 19:37
  had
• 19:38
  their
• 19:38
  own
• 19:38
  horse
• 19:39
  or
• 19:39
  pony.
• 19:40
  Really?
• 19:40
  Yeah,
• 19:42
  I
• 19:43
  guess
• 19:43
  I
• 19:43
  did
• 19:43
  too.
• 19:43
  I,
• 19:44
  I
• 19:44
  must
• 19:44
  have
• 19:45
  learned
• 19:45
  to
• 19:45
  Ride
• 19:45
  a
• 19:45
  little
• 19:46
  bit
• 19:46
  at
• 19:46
  camp
• 19:46
  or
• 19:47
  something.
• 19:47
  Summer
• 19:47
  camp.
• 19:48
  Yeah.
• 19:48
  Or
• 19:50
  where
• 19:50
  you
• 19:50
  got
• 19:50
  to
• 19:51
  ride
• 19:52
  several
• 19:52
  days
• 19:52
  a
• 19:52
  week
• 19:53
  and
• 19:53
  you
• 19:53
  kind
• 19:53
  of
• 19:54
  developed
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  idea
• 19:55
  of
• 19:56
  trotting
• 19:56
  and
• 19:56
  posting
• 19:57
  or
• 19:57
  something.
• 19:58
  But
• 19:58
  yeah,
• 19:58
  wherever
• 20:00
  you
• 20:00
  lived
• 20:01
  there
• 20:01
  was
• 20:01
  always
• 20:01
  one
• 20:02
  particular
• 20:02
  trainer.
• 20:03
  I
• 20:03
  know
• 20:04
  there's
• 20:04
  some
• 20:04
  around
• 20:04
  here
• 20:05
  too
• 20:05
  that
• 20:06
  are
• 20:06
  specifically
• 20:07
  lesson
• 20:07
  barns
• 20:08
  and
• 20:09
  do
• 20:09
  have
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  lesson
• 20:10
  ponies.
• 20:10
  And
• 20:11
  then
• 20:11
  when
• 20:11
  you
• 20:11
  need
• 20:11
  to
• 20:11
  move
• 20:12
  up,
• 20:12
  you
• 20:13
  move
• 20:13
  to
• 20:13
  a
• 20:13
  different
• 20:13
  one.
• 20:14
  But
• 20:14
  it
• 20:14
  seems
• 20:15
  to
• 20:15
  me,
• 20:16
  and
• 20:16
  I
• 20:16
  could
• 20:16
  be
• 20:17
  wrong,
• 20:17
  but
• 20:18
  it's
• 20:18
  just
• 20:18
  the
• 20:18
  sense
• 20:18
  that
• 20:19
  I
• 20:19
  have
• 20:19
  that
• 20:20
  there's
• 20:20
  fewer
• 20:20
  of
• 20:20
  those
• 20:21
  and
• 20:21
  more
• 20:22
  people
• 20:22
  capitalizing
• 20:23
  on
• 20:24
  the
• 20:24
  A
• 20:24
  show.
• 20:26
  You
• 20:26
  know,
• 20:26
  let's
• 20:27
  go
• 20:27
  to
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  circuit
• 20:28
  barn.
• 20:28
  And
• 20:29
  they're
• 20:29
  not
• 20:30
  really
• 20:30
  set
• 20:30
  up
• 20:31
  to
• 20:31
  have
• 20:32
  a
• 20:32
  two
• 20:32
  track
• 20:33
  system.
• 20:34
  I
• 20:34
  think
• 20:34
  people
• 20:35
  try.
• 20:35
  I
• 20:35
  agree.
• 20:37
  I
• 20:37
  think
• 20:37
  what's
• 20:38
  so
• 20:38
  tough
• 20:39
  about
• 20:39
  that
• 20:39
  too
• 20:40
  is
• 20:42
  the
• 20:43
  cost
• 20:43
  of
• 20:43
  it
• 20:43
  all.
• 20:44
  And,
• 20:44
  and
• 20:45
  you
• 20:45
  have
• 20:45
  to
• 20:46
  think
• 20:46
  about
• 20:46
  when
• 20:47
  you're
• 20:47
  doing
• 20:47
  a
• 20:47
  sport
• 20:48
  in
• 20:48
  high
• 20:48
  school,
• 20:48
  let's
• 20:48
  just
• 20:48
  say,
• 20:49
  or
• 20:49
  even
• 20:49
  if
• 20:49
  you
• 20:49
  look
• 20:49
  at
• 20:50
  it
• 20:50
  from
• 20:50
  elementary
• 20:50
  school
• 20:50
  or
• 20:51
  middle
• 20:51
  school
• 20:51
  where
• 20:51
  you
• 20:52
  might
• 20:52
  have
• 20:52
  team
• 20:52
  practice
• 20:53
  or
• 20:53
  whatever
• 20:54
  sport
• 20:54
  you're
• 20:54
  doing
• 20:54
  like
• 20:54
  two
• 20:55
  times
• 20:55
  a
• 20:55
  week.
• 20:56
  Well,
• 20:56
  if
• 20:56
  you're
• 20:56
  really,
• 20:57
  really
• 20:57
  into
• 20:57
  it,
• 20:58
  you
• 20:58
  might
• 20:58
  be
• 20:59
  getting
• 20:59
  a
• 20:59
  private
• 20:59
  coach,
• 21:00
  you
• 21:00
  might
• 21:00
  be
• 21:01
  having
• 21:01
  pitching
• 21:02
  lessons
• 21:02
  on
• 21:03
  the
• 21:03
  side,
• 21:03
  you
• 21:03
  might
• 21:03
  be
• 21:04
  have
• 21:04
  maybe
• 21:04
  you're
• 21:04
  a
• 21:05
  goalkeeper
• 21:05
  for
• 21:05
  soccer
• 21:06
  and
• 21:06
  you
• 21:06
  might
• 21:06
  be
• 21:06
  having
• 21:06
  goalie
• 21:07
  lessons
• 21:07
  on
• 21:07
  the
• 21:08
  side
• 21:08
  and
• 21:08
  then
• 21:08
  you're
• 21:08
  going
• 21:08
  to
• 21:09
  team
• 21:09
  practice,
• 21:09
  like
• 21:09
  if
• 21:09
  you're
• 21:10
  really
• 21:10
  into
• 21:10
  it.
• 21:10
  So
• 21:10
  let's
• 21:11
  just
• 21:11
  say
• 21:11
  you're
• 21:11
  practicing
• 21:12
  four
• 21:12
  times
• 21:12
  a
• 21:12
  week
• 21:12
  and
• 21:13
  then
• 21:13
  you've
• 21:13
  got
• 21:13
  your
• 21:13
  games
• 21:14
  with
• 21:14
  riding
• 21:16
  even
• 21:16
  in
• 21:17
  the
• 21:17
  lesson
• 21:17
  stuff.
• 21:17
  And
• 21:18
  maybe
• 21:18
  it
• 21:18
  is
• 21:18
  just
• 21:19
  I
• 21:19
  like
• 21:19
  to
• 21:20
  ride
• 21:20
  horses,
• 21:20
  I
• 21:21
  like
• 21:21
  to
• 21:21
  be
• 21:21
  with
• 21:21
  them.
• 21:22
  Riding
• 21:22
  once
• 21:22
  a
• 21:23
  week
• 21:23
  is
• 21:23
  good
• 21:24
  and
• 21:24
  that's
• 21:24
  what
• 21:24
  the
• 21:24
  parents
• 21:25
  can
• 21:25
  do.
• 21:26
  So
• 21:26
  fine.
• 21:27
  But
• 21:27
  like
• 21:27
  getting,
• 21:27
  wanting
• 21:28
  to
• 21:28
  be
• 21:28
  really
• 21:28
  competitive
• 21:29
  in
• 21:29
  it
• 21:29
  and
• 21:29
  wanting
• 21:30
  to
• 21:30
  be
• 21:30
  able
• 21:30
  to
• 21:31
  excel.
• 21:31
  I
• 21:32
  mean
• 21:32
  I
• 21:32
  didn't
• 21:32
  lesson
• 21:33
  just
• 21:33
  once
• 21:33
  a
• 21:33
  week
• 21:33
  or
• 21:34
  ride
• 21:34
  just
• 21:34
  once
• 21:35
  a
• 21:35
  week
• 21:36
  was
• 21:36
  out
• 21:36
  there
• 21:36
  multiple
• 21:37
  times
• 21:37
  a
• 21:37
  week.
• 21:39
  Now
• 21:39
  I
• 21:39
  didn't
• 21:40
  always
• 21:40
  have
• 21:40
  a
• 21:40
  lesson
• 21:41
  every
• 21:41
  time
• 21:41
  I
• 21:41
  rode
• 21:42
  because
• 21:43
  I
• 21:43
  had
• 21:43
  my
• 21:43
  own
• 21:43
  horse.
• 21:44
  You
• 21:45
  didn't
• 21:45
  have
• 21:45
  to
• 21:45
  take
• 21:45
  a
• 21:46
  lesson
• 21:46
  to
• 21:47
  be
• 21:47
  able
• 21:47
  to
• 21:49
  jump
• 21:49
  or
• 21:49
  practice
• 21:50
  or
• 21:50
  whatever.
• 21:51
  Yeah,
• 21:51
  but
• 21:52
  I
• 21:52
  think
• 21:52
  that
• 21:52
  that's
• 21:53
  part
• 21:53
  of
• 21:53
  the
• 21:53
  problem.
• 21:53
  Like
• 21:54
  where
• 21:54
  the
• 21:55
  parents
• 21:55
  want
• 21:55
  to
• 21:55
  bring
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  kids
• 21:56
  out
• 21:56
  for
• 21:56
  a
• 21:56
  lesson
• 21:57
  like
• 21:57
  once
• 21:57
  a
• 21:58
  week.
• 21:58
  And
• 21:58
  then
• 21:59
  you
• 21:59
  see
• 21:59
  the,
• 21:59
  well,
• 21:59
  why
• 22:00
  aren't
• 22:00
  they
• 22:00
  excelling
• 22:00
  fast
• 22:00
  enough
• 22:01
  or
• 22:01
  why
• 22:01
  aren't
• 22:01
  they
• 22:01
  jumping
• 22:02
  yet
• 22:02
  or
• 22:02
  why
• 22:02
  aren't
• 22:03
  they
• 22:03
  cantering
• 22:03
  yet?
• 22:04
  And
• 22:04
  then
• 22:04
  you
• 22:04
  bring
• 22:05
  in
• 22:05
  the
• 22:05
  risk
• 22:06
  and
• 22:06
  you
• 22:07
  bring
• 22:07
  in
• 22:07
  the
• 22:07
  liability
• 22:08
  of
• 22:08
  like,
• 22:08
  well,
• 22:08
  your
• 22:09
  kid's
• 22:09
  really
• 22:09
  not
• 22:09
  prepared
• 22:10
  enough
• 22:10
  to
• 22:10
  be
• 22:10
  doing
• 22:11
  this
• 22:11
  and
• 22:12
  like
• 22:12
  how
• 22:13
  do
• 22:13
  you
• 22:13
  have
• 22:13
  that
• 22:13
  conversation?
• 22:14
  Like
• 22:14
  spend,
• 22:15
  how
• 22:15
  do
• 22:15
  you
• 22:15
  tell?
• 22:15
  Like
• 22:16
  look
• 22:16
  them
• 22:16
  straight
• 22:16
  in
• 22:16
  the
• 22:16
  face
• 22:16
  and
• 22:17
  say,
• 22:17
  well,
• 22:17
  like
• 22:17
  you
• 22:17
  need
• 22:17
  to
• 22:17
  spend
• 22:18
  more
• 22:18
  money
• 22:18
  if
• 22:18
  you
• 22:18
  want
• 22:18
  your
• 22:18
  kid
• 22:19
  to
• 22:19
  be
• 22:19
  better.
• 22:20
  But
• 22:20
  it's
• 22:20
  not
• 22:20
  that.
• 22:21
  It's,
• 22:21
  I
• 22:21
  mean
• 22:21
  that's
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  bottom
• 22:22
  line.
• 22:23
  But
• 22:24
  it's
• 22:24
  really
• 22:24
  like
• 22:24
  they
• 22:24
  need
• 22:25
  to
• 22:25
  be
• 22:25
  out
• 22:25
  here
• 22:25
  doing
• 22:26
  this.
• 22:26
  Where
• 22:27
  does
• 22:27
  that
• 22:27
  opportunity
• 22:28
  come
• 22:28
  in
• 22:28
  if
• 22:28
  you
• 22:28
  don't
• 22:29
  own
• 22:29
  the
• 22:30
  pony
• 22:30
  or
• 22:30
  lease
• 22:31
  the
• 22:31
  pony
• 22:31
  or
• 22:32
  what
• 22:32
  have
• 22:32
  you?
• 22:33
  Totally.
• 22:33
  Right.
• 22:34
  And
• 22:35
  so
• 22:35
  if
• 22:36
  you
• 22:36
  just
• 22:36
  have
• 22:36
  a
• 22:36
  lesson
• 22:37
  program
• 22:38
  with
• 22:38
  one
• 22:39
  or
• 22:39
  two
• 22:40
  horses
• 22:41
  that
• 22:41
  you're
• 22:41
  teaching
• 22:42
  on.
• 22:43
  This
• 22:43
  is
• 22:43
  where
• 22:43
  I
• 22:43
  struggle.
• 22:44
  Okay.
• 22:45
  There's
• 22:45
  on
• 22:46
  some
• 22:46
  level
• 22:47
  you
• 22:47
  don't
• 22:47
  want
• 22:47
  that
• 22:48
  because
• 22:49
  it's
• 22:49
  expensive
• 22:50
  to
• 22:50
  maintain,
• 22:50
  which
• 22:51
  I
• 22:51
  have
• 22:51
  a
• 22:52
  little
• 22:52
  trouble
• 22:52
  with,
• 22:52
  especially
• 22:53
  if
• 22:53
  it's
• 22:53
  just
• 22:54
  one
• 22:54
  or
• 22:55
  two
• 22:55
  lesson
• 22:55
  horses
• 22:56
  because
• 22:57
  they're
• 22:57
  doing
• 22:57
  five
• 22:57
  or
• 22:58
  six
• 22:58
  lessons
• 22:59
  a
• 22:59
  week
• 22:59
  at
• 23:00
  least
• 23:00
  and
• 23:00
  most
• 23:01
  of
• 23:01
  them
• 23:01
  are
• 23:02
  old,
• 23:02
  retired
• 23:03
  and
• 23:03
  I
• 23:03
  can't
• 23:04
  believe
• 23:04
  they
• 23:04
  cost
• 23:04
  that
• 23:05
  much
• 23:05
  to
• 23:05
  maintain.
• 23:06
  However,
• 23:07
  when
• 23:07
  you
• 23:07
  break
• 23:08
  it
• 23:08
  down,
• 23:08
  it
• 23:08
  looks
• 23:09
  like
• 23:09
  you're
• 23:09
  making
• 23:09
  money.
• 23:10
  And
• 23:10
  it
• 23:11
  also
• 23:11
  means
• 23:12
  that
• 23:12
  when
• 23:12
  a
• 23:12
  kid
• 23:12
  gets
• 23:13
  to
• 23:13
  a
• 23:14
  certain
• 23:14
  point,
• 23:15
  then
• 23:15
  obviously
• 23:16
  the
• 23:16
  older
• 23:16
  lessened
• 23:17
  horse
• 23:17
  is
• 23:17
  not
• 23:17
  going
• 23:17
  to
• 23:18
  be
• 23:18
  able
• 23:18
  to
• 23:18
  take
• 23:18
  them
• 23:19
  to
• 23:19
  a
• 23:19
  horse
• 23:19
  show
• 23:19
  or
• 23:20
  help
• 23:21
  them
• 23:21
  get
• 23:21
  to
• 23:21
  the
• 23:21
  next
• 23:22
  level
• 23:22
  they
• 23:22
  need
• 23:23
  to
• 23:23
  go
• 23:23
  to.
• 23:23
  So
• 23:23
  at
• 23:24
  that
• 23:24
  moment
• 23:25
  you
• 23:25
  do
• 23:25
  have
• 23:25
  the
• 23:25
  opportunity
• 23:26
  of
• 23:26
  a
• 23:27
  discussion
• 23:27
  on
• 23:27
  do
• 23:28
  you
• 23:28
  want
• 23:28
  to
• 23:28
  lease
• 23:28
  a
• 23:28
  horse,
• 23:29
  do
• 23:29
  you
• 23:29
  want
• 23:29
  to
• 23:29
  buy
• 23:29
  a
• 23:29
  horse?
• 23:30
  Do
• 23:30
  you
• 23:30
  want
• 23:30
  a
• 23:30
  half?
• 23:30
  Lease
• 23:30
  a
• 23:31
  horse?
• 23:31
  And
• 23:31
  the
• 23:31
  whole
• 23:32
  process
• 23:33
  starts.
• 23:33
  If
• 23:34
  you
• 23:34
  take
• 23:34
  away
• 23:35
  that
• 23:35
  right,
• 23:35
  then
• 23:36
  it
• 23:36
  means
• 23:36
  that
• 23:37
  you're
• 23:37
  relying
• 23:38
  on
• 23:39
  people
• 23:39
  that
• 23:39
  already
• 23:40
  own
• 23:40
  their
• 23:40
  own
• 23:41
  horses
• 23:41
  and
• 23:42
  are
• 23:42
  already
• 23:42
  at
• 23:42
  a
• 23:42
  certain
• 23:43
  level
• 23:44
  and
• 23:44
  they're
• 23:44
  going
• 23:44
  to
• 23:44
  continue.
• 23:45
  Well,
• 23:47
  kind
• 23:47
  of
• 23:47
  funny
• 23:48
  to
• 23:48
  me,
• 23:48
  I
• 23:49
  guess
• 23:49
  there's
• 23:49
  always
• 23:49
  an
• 23:50
  endless
• 23:50
  supply
• 23:51
  of
• 23:51
  those
• 23:51
  people.
• 23:52
  However,
• 23:53
  a
• 23:53
  lot
• 23:53
  of
• 23:53
  times
• 23:53
  I
• 23:54
  do
• 23:54
  see
• 23:54
  that
• 23:54
  it's
• 23:54
  kids
• 23:55
  and
• 23:55
  they're
• 23:56
  juniors
• 23:56
  and
• 23:56
  they're
• 23:57
  going
• 23:57
  to
• 23:57
  go
• 23:57
  off
• 23:57
  to
• 23:57
  college
• 23:58
  and
• 23:58
  then
• 23:58
  you've
• 23:59
  got
• 23:59
  to.
• 24:00
  How
• 24:00
  do
• 24:00
  you
• 24:00
  feel?
• 24:01
  Do
• 24:01
  it
• 24:01
  all
• 24:01
  over
• 24:01
  again.
• 24:03
  Right.
• 24:03
  Unless
• 24:04
  you're
• 24:05
  connected
• 24:05
  somehow
• 24:07
  with
• 24:07
  a
• 24:08
  up
• 24:08
  down
• 24:08
  lesson
• 24:09
  feeder
• 24:10
  program.
• 24:10
  But
• 24:11
  I
• 24:11
  don't,
• 24:11
  I
• 24:12
  don't
• 24:12
  know
• 24:12
  of
• 24:12
  anybody
• 24:13
  who's
• 24:13
  doing
• 24:13
  that
• 24:13
  though.
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  mean,
• 24:15
  it
• 24:15
  wouldn't
• 24:15
  be
• 24:15
  a
• 24:15
  terrible
• 24:16
  thought,
• 24:17
  but.
• 24:19
  No,
• 24:19
  no
• 24:19
  it
• 24:20
  wouldn't.
• 24:20
  When
• 24:21
  we
• 24:21
  were
• 24:21
  talking
• 24:21
  about
• 24:21
  the
• 24:22
  lesson
• 24:22
  program
• 24:24
  and
• 24:24
  why
• 24:25
  would
• 24:25
  someone
• 24:25
  choose
• 24:26
  to
• 24:26
  get
• 24:26
  rid
• 24:26
  of
• 24:26
  it?
• 24:27
  Because
• 24:28
  if
• 24:28
  you
• 24:28
  break
• 24:28
  it
• 24:29
  down,
• 24:29
  a
• 24:29
  lesson
• 24:30
  horse,
• 24:30
  especially
• 24:30
  an
• 24:31
  older
• 24:31
  one,
• 24:31
  is
• 24:32
  not
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  same
• 24:32
  level
• 24:33
  of
• 24:33
  expense
• 24:34
  as
• 24:34
  a
• 24:34
  high
• 24:35
  perform
• 24:35
  performance
• 24:36
  horse.
• 24:37
  They
• 24:37
  don't
• 24:37
  have
• 24:38
  shoes,
• 24:38
  they're.
• 24:39
  Some
• 24:39
  don't.
• 24:39
  They're
• 24:39
  not
• 24:40
  showing
• 24:40
  every
• 24:40
  week
• 24:41
  and
• 24:41
  they're
• 24:42
  doing
• 24:42
  sometimes
• 24:43
  three
• 24:43
  or
• 24:43
  four
• 24:43
  Lessons
• 24:44
  a
• 24:44
  day.
• 24:45
  And
• 24:47
  maybe
• 24:48
  it's
• 24:48
  just
• 24:48
  walk
• 24:48
  or
• 24:49
  walk
• 24:49
  trot,
• 24:50
  they're
• 24:50
  not
• 24:50
  doing
• 24:51
  too
• 24:51
  much.
• 24:52
  But
• 24:52
  at
• 24:53
  $75
• 24:54
  a
• 24:55
  lesson,
• 24:56
  it's
• 24:56
  kind
• 24:57
  of
• 24:57
  hard
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  look
• 24:57
  at
• 24:58
  that
• 24:58
  and
• 24:58
  say
• 24:58
  that
• 24:59
  there
• 24:59
  isn't
• 24:59
  a
• 24:59
  business
• 25:00
  model.
• 25:00
  But
• 25:00
  I
• 25:01
  guess
• 25:02
  for
• 25:02
  these
• 25:03
  younger
• 25:03
  professionals
• 25:04
  or
• 25:05
  younger
• 25:05
  trainers
• 25:05
  that
• 25:06
  are
• 25:06
  coming
• 25:06
  up,
• 25:07
  maybe
• 25:07
  that's
• 25:08
  just
• 25:08
  not
• 25:08
  what
• 25:08
  they
• 25:09
  want
• 25:09
  to
• 25:09
  deal
• 25:09
  with
• 25:09
  anymore.
• 25:10
  I'd
• 25:10
  have
• 25:10
  to
• 25:11
  imagine
• 25:11
  that
• 25:11
  there's
• 25:11
  a
• 25:11
  fair
• 25:12
  amount
• 25:12
  of
• 25:12
  management
• 25:13
  that
• 25:13
  has
• 25:13
  to
• 25:14
  go
• 25:14
  into
• 25:14
  that.
• 25:14
  If
• 25:15
  you
• 25:15
  know
• 25:16
  that
• 25:16
  your
• 25:16
  lesson
• 25:17
  pony
• 25:17
  or
• 25:17
  two
• 25:17
  or
• 25:18
  whatever
• 25:18
  is
• 25:18
  going
• 25:18
  to
• 25:18
  fill
• 25:19
  four
• 25:19
  to
• 25:19
  five
• 25:19
  spots
• 25:20
  a
• 25:20
  day,
• 25:20
  every
• 25:21
  day,
• 25:21
  and
• 25:21
  you
• 25:21
  can
• 25:22
  guarantee
• 25:22
  that.
• 25:22
  Like,
• 25:23
  how
• 25:23
  much
• 25:23
  of
• 25:23
  those
• 25:23
  spots
• 25:24
  can
• 25:24
  you
• 25:24
  guarantee?
• 25:25
  Where's
• 25:25
  your
• 25:26
  break
• 25:26
  even
• 25:26
  and
• 25:26
  where's
• 25:27
  your
• 25:27
  profit
• 25:27
  margin?
• 25:28
  And
• 25:28
  so
• 25:28
  then
• 25:28
  I
• 25:29
  think
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  problem
• 25:29
  comes
• 25:29
  in
• 25:30
  is
• 25:30
  if
• 25:30
  the
• 25:30
  business
• 25:30
  model
• 25:31
  is
• 25:31
  set
• 25:31
  up
• 25:31
  as
• 25:31
  you
• 25:32
  pay
• 25:32
  one
• 25:32
  lesson
• 25:34
  at
• 25:34
  a
• 25:34
  time,
• 25:35
  then
• 25:35
  there's
• 25:35
  no
• 25:35
  guarantee
• 25:37
  that
• 25:37
  you'll
• 25:37
  hit
• 25:38
  into
• 25:38
  the
• 25:38
  black
• 25:39
  that
• 25:40
  particular
• 25:40
  month.
• 25:40
  If
• 25:41
  it's
• 25:41
  like,
• 25:41
  well,
• 25:41
  we
• 25:41
  might
• 25:42
  come
• 25:42
  for
• 25:42
  one
• 25:42
  lesson.
• 25:43
  And
• 25:43
  I
• 25:43
  know
• 25:43
  people
• 25:44
  will
• 25:44
  sell
• 25:44
  the
• 25:45
  packages.
• 25:45
  Like
• 25:46
  where
• 25:46
  you're
• 25:46
  like,
• 25:46
  okay,
• 25:46
  you're.
• 25:47
  Yeah,
• 25:47
  like
• 25:47
  you're
• 25:48
  buying
• 25:48
  four
• 25:49
  lessons
• 25:50
  and
• 25:50
  you
• 25:51
  can
• 25:51
  use
• 25:51
  them
• 25:51
  within.
• 25:53
  Let's
• 25:53
  just
• 25:53
  say
• 25:53
  it's
• 25:53
  60
• 25:54
  days,
• 25:54
  right.
• 25:55
  Or
• 25:55
  whatever.
• 25:56
  And
• 25:56
  maybe,
• 25:56
  maybe
• 25:57
  it's
• 25:57
  like,
• 25:57
  no,
• 25:57
  you
• 25:58
  can
• 25:58
  buy
• 25:58
  them
• 25:58
  and
• 25:58
  you
• 25:59
  got
• 25:59
  to
• 25:59
  use
• 25:59
  them
• 25:59
  within
• 25:59
  30,
• 26:00
  you
• 26:00
  know,
• 26:01
  whatever
• 26:01
  it
• 26:01
  may
• 26:01
  be.
• 26:02
  But
• 26:02
  I
• 26:02
  think
• 26:02
  that
• 26:02
  that's
• 26:02
  kind
• 26:03
  of
• 26:03
  the
• 26:03
  only
• 26:03
  way
• 26:03
  that
• 26:03
  you
• 26:03
  can
• 26:03
  do
• 26:04
  that.
• 26:04
  But
• 26:04
  that's
• 26:04
  a
• 26:04
  fair
• 26:04
  amount
• 26:05
  of
• 26:05
  management,
• 26:05
  especially
• 26:06
  if
• 26:06
  you're
• 26:06
  allowing
• 26:06
  a
• 26:07
  la
• 26:07
  carte,
• 26:07
  if
• 26:08
  you
• 26:08
  will.
• 26:08
  Right.
• 26:09
  Just
• 26:09
  like
• 26:09
  singular
• 26:10
  lessons.
• 26:10
  So
• 26:11
  managing
• 26:11
  that,
• 26:11
  I
• 26:12
  feel
• 26:12
  like
• 26:13
  on
• 26:14
  top
• 26:14
  of
• 26:15
  your
• 26:15
  more
• 26:15
  profitable
• 26:16
  side,
• 26:16
  which
• 26:16
  is
• 26:17
  going
• 26:17
  to
• 26:17
  rate
• 26:18
  it
• 26:18
  in
• 26:18
  local
• 26:18
  shows,
• 26:19
  like
• 26:19
  where
• 26:19
  trainers
• 26:19
  are
• 26:20
  saying
• 26:20
  that
• 26:20
  they'
• 26:20
  making
• 26:20
  their
• 26:21
  money
• 26:21
  because
• 26:21
  you're
• 26:21
  breaking
• 26:22
  even
• 26:22
  on
• 26:22
  board,
• 26:22
  if
• 26:23
  you're
• 26:23
  lucky.
• 26:23
  People
• 26:24
  are
• 26:24
  dropping
• 26:24
  a
• 26:25
  ton
• 26:25
  of
• 26:25
  money
• 26:26
  to
• 26:26
  have
• 26:26
  that
• 26:26
  managed
• 26:27
  as
• 26:27
  a
• 26:27
  client.
• 26:28
  How
• 26:28
  much
• 26:29
  overhead
• 26:29
  and
• 26:30
  do
• 26:30
  you
• 26:30
  want
• 26:30
  to.
• 26:31
  Would
• 26:31
  a,
• 26:31
  would
• 26:31
  a
• 26:32
  barn
• 26:32
  want
• 26:32
  to
• 26:32
  put
• 26:33
  into
• 26:33
  it
• 26:33
  to
• 26:33
  maintain
• 26:34
  a
• 26:35
  partial
• 26:35
  lesson
• 26:35
  program,
• 26:36
  A
• 26:36
  whole
• 26:36
  lesson
• 26:36
  program?
• 26:36
  You
• 26:37
  know
• 26:37
  what
• 26:37
  I'm
• 26:37
  saying?
• 26:37
  And
• 26:38
  I
• 26:38
  think
• 26:38
  that
• 26:38
  that's
• 26:38
  probably
• 26:39
  why
• 26:39
  you
• 26:39
  see
• 26:39
  less
• 26:40
  of
• 26:40
  it
• 26:40
  occurring.
• 26:41
  I
• 26:42
  would
• 26:43
  not
• 26:43
  disagree.
• 26:44
  And
• 26:44
  I
• 26:45
  think
• 26:45
  you're
• 26:46
  hearing
• 26:46
  more
• 26:46
  and
• 26:46
  more
• 26:47
  that
• 26:47
  the
• 26:48
  real
• 26:48
  money
• 26:48
  is
• 26:48
  in
• 26:49
  showing.
• 26:50
  And
• 26:51
  I
• 26:51
  do
• 26:52
  look
• 26:52
  at
• 26:52
  the
• 26:53
  list
• 26:53
  in
• 26:53
  our
• 26:53
  barn
• 26:54
  and
• 26:54
  there
• 26:54
  are,
• 26:55
  gosh,
• 26:56
  sometimes
• 26:57
  20
• 26:57
  horses
• 26:58
  going
• 26:58
  to
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  horse
• 26:59
  show
• 27:00
  and
• 27:00
  right.
• 27:01
  There's
• 27:01
  only
• 27:02
  30
• 27:02
  something
• 27:02
  in
• 27:03
  the
• 27:03
  barn.
• 27:03
  So
• 27:04
  I
• 27:04
  can
• 27:05
  see
• 27:05
  how
• 27:06
  everybody's
• 27:06
  going
• 27:07
  that,
• 27:08
  how
• 27:08
  that
• 27:09
  works.
• 27:09
  The
• 27:10
  lessons
• 27:10
  are.
• 27:11
  And
• 27:11
  it's
• 27:11
  like
• 27:11
  your
• 27:11
  shift
• 27:12
  in
• 27:12
  your
• 27:12
  focus
• 27:12
  has
• 27:13
  to
• 27:13
  be
• 27:13
  on
• 27:13
  that.
• 27:14
  Yeah.
• 27:14
  How
• 27:14
  do
• 27:14
  you
• 27:14
  split
• 27:15
  yourself?
• 27:15
  So
• 27:16
  I.
• 27:17
  I
• 27:17
  get
• 27:18
  it.
• 27:19
  But
• 27:19
  if
• 27:19
  all
• 27:20
  that's
• 27:20
  true
• 27:20
  and
• 27:21
  this
• 27:21
  is
• 27:21
  the
• 27:21
  way
• 27:21
  that
• 27:22
  it's
• 27:23
  going
• 27:23
  to
• 27:23
  start
• 27:23
  to
• 27:24
  work,
• 27:25
  then
• 27:26
  how
• 27:27
  are
• 27:27
  you
• 27:27
  building
• 27:27
  this
• 27:28
  system
• 27:28
  to
• 27:28
  bring
• 27:29
  new
• 27:29
  people
• 27:29
  in?
• 27:30
  You're
• 27:30
  just
• 27:30
  building
• 27:31
  a
• 27:31
  system
• 27:31
  that
• 27:31
  supports
• 27:32
  the
• 27:32
  people
• 27:32
  that
• 27:32
  are
• 27:32
  already
• 27:33
  in
• 27:33
  it.
• 27:34
  That
• 27:34
  are
• 27:34
  already
• 27:34
  in
• 27:35
  it.
• 27:35
  Right.
• 27:35
  And
• 27:35
  I
• 27:36
  guess
• 27:36
  that's,
• 27:36
  you
• 27:37
  know,
• 27:37
  I
• 27:37
  don't
• 27:37
  know
• 27:37
  if
• 27:37
  that's
• 27:38
  a.
• 27:39
  Oh,
• 27:40
  you
• 27:40
  got
• 27:40
  into
• 27:40
  it
• 27:41
  because
• 27:41
  your
• 27:41
  family
• 27:41
  was
• 27:42
  into
• 27:42
  it.
• 27:42
  You
• 27:42
  got
• 27:42
  into
• 27:43
  it
• 27:43
  because
• 27:43
  your
• 27:43
  mom
• 27:43
  was
• 27:44
  into
• 27:44
  it.
• 27:45
  Like,
• 27:45
  does
• 27:45
  it
• 27:45
  have
• 27:45
  to
• 27:45
  be.
• 27:46
  What
• 27:46
  about
• 27:46
  the
• 27:47
  kid
• 27:47
  who
• 27:48
  can't
• 27:49
  get
• 27:49
  her
• 27:49
  head
• 27:49
  out
• 27:49
  of
• 27:50
  a
• 27:50
  horse
• 27:50
  book,
• 27:51
  has
• 27:51
  never
• 27:51
  been
• 27:52
  to
• 27:52
  a
• 27:52
  barn,
• 27:52
  has
• 27:52
  never
• 27:52
  pet
• 27:53
  a
• 27:53
  horse,
• 27:53
  and
• 27:53
  is
• 27:53
  just
• 27:54
  infatuated
• 27:55
  with
• 27:55
  them
• 27:55
  and
• 27:55
  just
• 27:56
  wants
• 27:56
  the
• 27:56
  opportunity?
• 27:57
  I
• 27:57
  think
• 27:58
  the
• 27:58
  parents
• 27:58
  have
• 27:58
  to
• 27:58
  search
• 27:59
  pretty
• 27:59
  hard
• 27:59
  to
• 27:59
  find
• 27:59
  that.
• 28:00
  And
• 28:00
  then
• 28:00
  you
• 28:01
  have
• 28:01
  to
• 28:01
  worry
• 28:01
  about,
• 28:01
  like,
• 28:01
  what's
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  quality
• 28:02
  of
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  program.
• 28:03
  Right.
• 28:04
  And
• 28:04
  parents,
• 28:05
  a
• 28:05
  lot
• 28:06
  of
• 28:06
  them,
• 28:07
  we're
• 28:07
  lucky.
• 28:08
  Or
• 28:08
  you're
• 28:09
  lucky.
• 28:09
  Your
• 28:09
  mother
• 28:10
  rode.
• 28:10
  I
• 28:11
  didn't.
• 28:11
  My
• 28:12
  mother
• 28:12
  did
• 28:12
  not
• 28:12
  ride,
• 28:14
  but
• 28:14
  I.
• 28:15
  I
• 28:15
  was
• 28:16
  bound
• 28:16
  and
• 28:16
  determined,
• 28:17
  and
• 28:18
  my
• 28:19
  first
• 28:19
  horse
• 28:20
  I
• 28:20
  kept
• 28:20
  in
• 28:21
  someone's
• 28:21
  backyard,
• 28:22
  so
• 28:22
  I
• 28:22
  had
• 28:22
  to
• 28:23
  take
• 28:24
  care
• 28:24
  of
• 28:24
  it
• 28:24
  myself.
• 28:25
  But
• 28:25
  I'm
• 28:26
  just
• 28:26
  saying,
• 28:26
  if.
• 28:26
  If
• 28:27
  Barnes
• 28:27
  don't
• 28:27
  have
• 28:27
  lesson
• 28:28
  programs
• 28:29
  and
• 28:29
  the
• 28:30
  expectations
• 28:31
  become
• 28:31
  that
• 28:32
  you
• 28:32
  either
• 28:32
  lease
• 28:33
  or
• 28:33
  own
• 28:33
  a
• 28:33
  horse,
• 28:34
  how
• 28:35
  do
• 28:35
  you
• 28:35
  get
• 28:36
  started?
• 28:37
  Is
• 28:37
  there
• 28:37
  even
• 28:37
  still
• 28:38
  a
• 28:38
  path
• 28:39
  to
• 28:39
  do
• 28:39
  it?
• 28:40
  Well,
• 28:40
  it
• 28:40
  seems.
• 28:41
  You
• 28:41
  know
• 28:41
  what
• 28:41
  I've
• 28:42
  seen
• 28:42
  an
• 28:42
  uptick
• 28:42
  in
• 28:43
  is
• 28:44
  camps,
• 28:45
  like,
• 28:45
  specific
• 28:46
  horse
• 28:46
  camps.
• 28:47
  So,
• 28:47
  like,
• 28:48
  maybe
• 28:48
  they
• 28:49
  don't
• 28:49
  have
• 28:50
  a
• 28:50
  full
• 28:51
  lesson
• 28:51
  program
• 28:51
  or
• 28:52
  something
• 28:52
  like
• 28:52
  that.
• 28:52
  Or
• 28:53
  maybe
• 28:53
  it
• 28:53
  is
• 28:53
  like
• 28:53
  they've
• 28:54
  got
• 28:54
  a
• 28:54
  couple
• 28:54
  of
• 28:54
  ponies
• 28:55
  that
• 28:55
  they
• 28:55
  use
• 28:55
  here
• 28:55
  and
• 28:55
  there.
• 28:56
  And
• 28:56
  so
• 28:56
  then
• 28:56
  they
• 28:57
  offer
• 28:57
  camp
• 28:58
  sessions
• 28:58
  throughout
• 28:58
  the
• 28:59
  summer
• 28:59
  and
• 28:59
  spring
• 28:59
  for
• 29:00
  kids
• 29:00
  who
• 29:00
  want
• 29:01
  to
• 29:01
  do
• 29:01
  it.
• 29:01
  That
• 29:02
  would
• 29:02
  be
• 29:02
  my
• 29:02
  guess
• 29:02
  is
• 29:02
  how.
• 29:03
  Maybe
• 29:03
  that's
• 29:04
  how
• 29:04
  you
• 29:05
  get
• 29:05
  your
• 29:05
  kid,
• 29:05
  who's
• 29:06
  never
• 29:06
  done
• 29:06
  it,
• 29:06
  introduced
• 29:06
  to
• 29:07
  it.
• 29:07
  I
• 29:07
  mean,
• 29:07
  it's
• 29:07
  definitely
• 29:07
  immersive.
• 29:08
  You
• 29:08
  get
• 29:09
  to
• 29:09
  do
• 29:09
  it
• 29:09
  every
• 29:09
  day
• 29:09
  for
• 29:09
  five
• 29:10
  days
• 29:10
  and.
• 29:10
  Or
• 29:10
  maybe
• 29:11
  you
• 29:11
  do
• 29:11
  two
• 29:11
  weeks.
• 29:11
  I
• 29:11
  don't
• 29:11
  know.
• 29:12
  But
• 29:12
  maybe
• 29:13
  the,
• 29:13
  you
• 29:13
  know,
• 29:13
  the
• 29:14
  conversation
• 29:14
  goes
• 29:14
  on
• 29:15
  from
• 29:15
  there.
• 29:15
  Yeah.
• 29:16
  Where
• 29:16
  did.
• 29:16
  Where
• 29:16
  the
• 29:17
  ponies
• 29:17
  or
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  horses
• 29:18
  for
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  camp
• 29:19
  come
• 29:19
  from
• 29:20
  if
• 29:20
  you
• 29:20
  don't
• 29:21
  have
• 29:21
  a
• 29:21
  lesson
• 29:21
  program?
• 29:22
  Well,
• 29:22
  right.
• 29:23
  I
• 29:23
  think
• 29:23
  that.
• 29:23
  But
• 29:23
  that's
• 29:23
  what
• 29:23
  I'm
• 29:24
  saying.
• 29:24
  Like,
• 29:24
  I
• 29:24
  think
• 29:24
  that's
• 29:25
  how
• 29:25
  you
• 29:25
  get
• 29:25
  introduced
• 29:25
  to
• 29:25
  it,
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  the
• 29:26
  ones
• 29:26
  that
• 29:26
  do
• 29:27
  have
• 29:27
  a
• 29:27
  lesson
• 29:27
  program.
• 29:27
  A
• 29:28
  lot
• 29:28
  of
• 29:28
  the
• 29:28
  time
• 29:28
  you're
• 29:28
  seeing
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  ones
• 29:29
  that
• 29:29
  offer
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  camp
• 29:29
  because
• 29:30
  they've
• 29:30
  got
• 29:31
  at
• 29:31
  least
• 29:31
  a
• 29:31
  couple
• 29:31
  of
• 29:31
  ponies
• 29:32
  that
• 29:32
  can.
• 29:32
  But
• 29:33
  they've
• 29:33
  Got
• 29:33
  enough
• 29:33
  that
• 29:34
  they
• 29:34
  could
• 29:34
  fill
• 29:35
  the
• 29:35
  spots
• 29:35
  for,
• 29:36
  you
• 29:36
  know,
• 29:37
  10
• 29:37
  kids.
• 29:37
  For
• 29:37
  camp,
• 29:38
  I
• 29:38
  went
• 29:38
  to
• 29:38
  summer
• 29:39
  camp.
• 29:39
  That
• 29:39
  was
• 29:40
  an
• 29:41
  everything,
• 29:41
  you
• 29:41
  know,
• 29:42
  a
• 29:42
  wet
• 29:42
  sleep
• 29:43
  away
• 29:43
  camp.
• 29:44
  And
• 29:44
  it
• 29:44
  just
• 29:45
  so
• 29:45
  happened
• 29:46
  that
• 29:46
  the
• 29:47
  women
• 29:47
  that
• 29:47
  owned
• 29:48
  the
• 29:48
  camp
• 29:49
  also
• 29:49
  owned
• 29:50
  Audubon
• 29:51
  Park
• 29:51
  Stables
• 29:52
  in
• 29:52
  New
• 29:52
  Orleans,
• 29:53
  Louisiana
• 29:54
  and
• 29:54
  they
• 29:54
  would
• 29:54
  bring
• 29:55
  the
• 29:55
  horses
• 29:56
  from
• 29:56
  the
• 29:56
  park
• 29:57
  for
• 29:57
  the
• 29:57
  summer
• 29:58
  and
• 29:58
  that's
• 29:58
  what
• 29:59
  we
• 29:59
  rode.
• 30:00
  Well,
• 30:00
  I'd
• 30:01
  love
• 30:01
  for
• 30:01
  our
• 30:02
  listeners
• 30:02
  to
• 30:03
  tell
• 30:03
  us
• 30:03
  what
• 30:04
  they
• 30:04
  see
• 30:04
  in
• 30:04
  their
• 30:04
  area
• 30:05
  because
• 30:05
  they
• 30:05
  exist.
• 30:06
  I
• 30:06
  know
• 30:06
  that.
• 30:06
  And
• 30:07
  it's
• 30:07
  not
• 30:07
  like
• 30:07
  I've
• 30:07
  done
• 30:07
  some
• 30:07
  like
• 30:08
  mad
• 30:08
  Google
• 30:08
  search
• 30:09
  for
• 30:09
  lesson
• 30:10
  barns
• 30:10
  here
• 30:11
  recently.
• 30:11
  But
• 30:11
  I'm
• 30:12
  curious
• 30:12
  what
• 30:12
  people
• 30:13
  see
• 30:13
  in
• 30:13
  the
• 30:13
  area.
• 30:13
  Is
• 30:14
  it
• 30:14
  sort
• 30:14
  of
• 30:14
  like
• 30:15
  you
• 30:15
  don't
• 30:15
  own,
• 30:15
  you
• 30:16
  don't
• 30:16
  lease?
• 30:16
  Too
• 30:16
  bad.
• 30:16
  So
• 30:17
  sad.
• 30:17
  Do
• 30:17
  they
• 30:17
  see
• 30:18
  a
• 30:18
  mix
• 30:18
  or
• 30:18
  kind
• 30:19
  of
• 30:19
  what's
• 30:19
  out
• 30:19
  there?
• 30:20
  And,
• 30:20
  and
• 30:20
  also
• 30:20
  like,
• 30:21
  I
• 30:21
  think
• 30:21
  it's
• 30:21
  good
• 30:21
  information,
• 30:22
  I
• 30:22
  don't
• 30:22
  know,
• 30:22
  for
• 30:22
  other
• 30:23
  parents
• 30:23
  maybe
• 30:23
  that
• 30:23
  their
• 30:24
  kids
• 30:24
  want
• 30:24
  to
• 30:24
  get
• 30:24
  into
• 30:24
  it
• 30:24
  and
• 30:25
  don't
• 30:25
  know
• 30:25
  where
• 30:25
  to
• 30:25
  start.
• 30:25
  So
• 30:26
  if
• 30:26
  people
• 30:26
  want
• 30:26
  to
• 30:27
  share
• 30:27
  that,
• 30:27
  I'd
• 30:27
  love
• 30:27
  to
• 30:27
  hear
• 30:28
  what
• 30:28
  people
• 30:28
  have
• 30:29
  in
• 30:29
  their
• 30:29
  area
• 30:29
  and
• 30:29
  their
• 30:29
  states
• 30:30
  and
• 30:30
  that
• 30:30
  kind
• 30:30
  of
• 30:30
  thing.
• 30:31
  Yeah,
• 30:31
  I
• 30:31
  would.
• 30:32
  Because
• 30:32
  I
• 30:32
  think
• 30:32
  that's
• 30:32
  part
• 30:33
  of
• 30:33
  the
• 30:33
  battle
• 30:33
  is
• 30:34
  finding
• 30:34
  it.
• 30:34
  And
• 30:35
  I
• 30:35
  think,
• 30:35
  and
• 30:36
  I
• 30:36
  think
• 30:36
  that
• 30:36
  once
• 30:37
  you
• 30:37
  get
• 30:37
  to
• 30:37
  a
• 30:37
  certain
• 30:37
  level,
• 30:38
  then
• 30:38
  you
• 30:39
  get
• 30:39
  kind
• 30:39
  of
• 30:39
  caught
• 30:39
  up
• 30:40
  in
• 30:40
  that
• 30:40
  level
• 30:40
  and
• 30:41
  you
• 30:41
  forget
• 30:41
  about
• 30:42
  these
• 30:42
  other
• 30:43
  ones
• 30:43
  that
• 30:43
  are
• 30:43
  starting
• 30:43
  over
• 30:44
  until
• 30:44
  either
• 30:45
  like
• 30:45
  you,
• 30:46
  you're
• 30:46
  a
• 30:46
  parent,
• 30:47
  you
• 30:47
  have
• 30:47
  a
• 30:47
  child
• 30:48
  and
• 30:48
  you're
• 30:48
  thinking
• 30:49
  about
• 30:49
  your
• 30:49
  child
• 30:50
  starting
• 30:50
  to
• 30:51
  ride,
• 30:51
  or
• 30:51
  like
• 30:51
  me,
• 30:52
  as
• 30:52
  a
• 30:52
  grandmother,
• 30:53
  I
• 30:54
  would
• 30:54
  love
• 30:54
  nothing
• 30:54
  more
• 30:55
  than
• 30:55
  to
• 30:55
  corrupt
• 30:55
  my
• 30:56
  little
• 30:56
  granddaughter
• 30:57
  and
• 30:57
  make
• 30:57
  sure
• 30:57
  that
• 30:57
  she
• 30:58
  loved
• 30:58
  ponies
• 30:59
  as
• 30:59
  much
• 30:59
  as
• 30:59
  I
• 30:59
  did
• 31:00
  so
• 31:00
  that
• 31:00
  maybe
• 31:01
  her
• 31:01
  father
• 31:01
  will
• 31:01
  be
• 31:01
  broke
• 31:02
  too.
• 31:04
  Anyway,
• 31:06
  I
• 31:06
  just
• 31:06
  want
• 31:07
  to
• 31:07
  make
• 31:07
  sure
• 31:07
  that
• 31:07
  we
• 31:08
  still
• 31:08
  have
• 31:09
  a
• 31:09
  future
• 31:09
  for
• 31:10
  our
• 31:10
  sport.
• 31:11
  And
• 31:12
  if
• 31:12
  it's
• 31:13
  not
• 31:13
  happening
• 31:13
  at
• 31:14
  the
• 31:14
  barn
• 31:14
  level,
• 31:15
  where
• 31:15
  does
• 31:15
  it
• 31:15
  start?
• 31:16
  So
• 31:16
  I
• 31:17
  think
• 31:17
  you're
• 31:17
  absolutely
• 31:18
  right.
• 31:18
  There's
• 31:19
  conversation
• 31:20
  now
• 31:21
  about
• 31:21
  leadership
• 31:22
  and
• 31:22
  priorities
• 31:23
  and
• 31:23
  where
• 31:23
  is
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  money
• 31:24
  going
• 31:24
  and
• 31:25
  what's
• 31:25
  actually
• 31:26
  being
• 31:26
  supported.
• 31:27
  But
• 31:28
  I
• 31:28
  feel
• 31:28
  like
• 31:28
  we
• 31:29
  have
• 31:29
  to
• 31:29
  go
• 31:30
  back
• 31:30
  to
• 31:30
  this
• 31:30
  very
• 31:31
  basic
• 31:32
  thought.
• 31:33
  How?
• 31:33
  Well,
• 31:34
  what
• 31:34
  is
• 31:34
  the
• 31:35
  path?
• 31:35
  I
• 31:35
  think
• 31:36
  we're
• 31:36
  going
• 31:36
  to
• 31:36
  find
• 31:36
  that
• 31:37
  the
• 31:37
  path
• 31:37
  is
• 31:37
  going
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  be
• 31:37
  changing
• 31:38
  here.
• 31:38
  And
• 31:39
  I
• 31:39
  think
• 31:39
  it
• 31:39
  already,
• 31:40
  I
• 31:40
  mean,
• 31:40
  I
• 31:40
  can't
• 31:40
  say
• 31:40
  that
• 31:41
  I
• 31:41
  think
• 31:41
  it
• 31:41
  already
• 31:41
  is
• 31:41
  because
• 31:42
  it's.
• 31:42
  I
• 31:42
  think
• 31:43
  rated
• 31:43
  shows
• 31:43
  are
• 31:43
  always
• 31:44
  going
• 31:44
  to
• 31:44
  exist.
• 31:44
  I
• 31:44
  think
• 31:44
  the
• 31:44
  money
• 31:45
  in
• 31:45
  it
• 31:45
  is
• 31:45
  always
• 31:45
  going
• 31:45
  to
• 31:46
  exist.
• 31:46
  I
• 31:46
  don't
• 31:46
  think
• 31:46
  it's
• 31:46
  going
• 31:46
  to
• 31:47
  like
• 31:47
  somehow
• 31:48
  miraculously
• 31:48
  go
• 31:49
  down.
• 31:49
  But
• 31:49
  I
• 31:49
  think
• 31:50
  what
• 31:50
  you're
• 31:50
  gonna
• 31:50
  find
• 31:51
  is
• 31:51
  the
• 31:51
  barns
• 31:51
  where
• 31:52
  like
• 31:52
  the
• 31:52
  program
• 31:52
  is.
• 31:53
  Let's
• 31:53
  just
• 31:53
  say
• 31:53
  it's
• 31:54
  only
• 31:54
  rated
• 31:54
  or
• 31:55
  something
• 31:55
  like
• 31:55
  that.
• 31:56
  You're
• 31:56
  gonna
• 31:56
  have
• 31:56
  people
• 31:57
  who
• 31:57
  are
• 31:57
  breaking
• 31:58
  their
• 31:58
  backs
• 31:58
  to
• 31:59
  do
• 31:59
  this,
• 31:59
  to
• 31:59
  be
• 32:00
  a
• 32:00
  part
• 32:00
  of
• 32:00
  the
• 32:01
  sport,
• 32:01
  to
• 32:01
  show,
• 32:01
  to
• 32:02
  do
• 32:02
  all
• 32:02
  that.
• 32:02
  And
• 32:03
  then
• 32:03
  the
• 32:03
  cost
• 32:04
  of
• 32:04
  everything
• 32:04
  adding
• 32:04
  up
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  get
• 32:05
  there,
• 32:05
  to
• 32:06
  show,
• 32:06
  to
• 32:06
  braid
• 32:07
  all
• 32:07
  of
• 32:07
  that
• 32:08
  stuff,
• 32:08
  and
• 32:08
  then
• 32:08
  the
• 32:09
  cost
• 32:09
  of
• 32:09
  the
• 32:09
  show
• 32:09
  itself,
• 32:10
  I
• 32:10
  mean,
• 32:10
  the
• 32:10
  cost
• 32:10
  of
• 32:10
  the
• 32:11
  show
• 32:11
  itself,
• 32:11
  it's
• 32:11
  astronomical.
• 32:12
  Our
• 32:12
  dues
• 32:12
  are
• 32:13
  going
• 32:13
  up
• 32:13
  in
• 32:13
  a.
• 32:13
  In
• 32:13
  a
• 32:14
  way
• 32:14
  that
• 32:14
  doesn't
• 32:14
  make
• 32:14
  sense
• 32:15
  and
• 32:15
  people
• 32:15
  are
• 32:15
  gonna
• 32:16
  have.
• 32:16
  They're
• 32:16
  gonna
• 32:16
  start
• 32:17
  to
• 32:17
  pull
• 32:17
  back.
• 32:18
  That
• 32:18
  is
• 32:18
  going
• 32:18
  to
• 32:18
  happen
• 32:19
  and
• 32:20
  that's
• 32:20
  not
• 32:20
  going
• 32:21
  to
• 32:21
  be
• 32:21
  good
• 32:21
  for
• 32:21
  the
• 32:22
  new
• 32:22
  business
• 32:22
  model
• 32:23
  that
• 32:23
  is
• 32:23
  allowing
• 32:24
  our
• 32:24
  trainers
• 32:24
  to
• 32:24
  be
• 32:24
  profitable
• 32:26
  and
• 32:26
  to,
• 32:26
  to
• 32:26
  make
• 32:27
  a
• 32:27
  living
• 32:27
  in
• 32:27
  their,
• 32:27
  in
• 32:28
  their
• 32:28
  careers
• 32:29
  and
• 32:29
  to
• 32:29
  have
• 32:29
  these
• 32:30
  nice
• 32:30
  programs
• 32:31
  because
• 32:31
  people
• 32:31
  are
• 32:31
  going
• 32:31
  to
• 32:32
  get
• 32:32
  priced
• 32:32
  out.
• 32:32
  Unless
• 32:33
  you're
• 32:33
  part
• 32:33
  of
• 32:33
  the
• 32:34
  top
• 32:34
  1%
• 32:35
  of
• 32:35
  people,
• 32:36
  you're
• 32:37
  going
• 32:37
  to
• 32:37
  have
• 32:37
  to
• 32:37
  start
• 32:37
  pick
• 32:37
  and
• 32:37
  choosing.
• 32:38
  Instead
• 32:38
  of
• 32:38
  like,
• 32:39
  instead
• 32:39
  of
• 32:39
  being
• 32:39
  able
• 32:39
  to
• 32:40
  be
• 32:40
  like,
• 32:40
  oh,
• 32:40
  well,
• 32:40
  I
• 32:40
  know
• 32:40
  I'm
• 32:40
  going
• 32:41
  to
• 32:41
  do
• 32:41
  at
• 32:41
  least
• 32:41
  one
• 32:41
  show
• 32:41
  a
• 32:41
  month.
• 32:42
  It's
• 32:42
  going
• 32:42
  to
• 32:42
  be
• 32:42
  like,
• 32:42
  well,
• 32:43
  maybe,
• 32:44
  maybe
• 32:44
  if
• 32:44
  I'm
• 32:44
  lucky.
• 32:45
  And
• 32:45
  well,
• 32:46
  yeah,
• 32:46
  I'm
• 32:47
  worried
• 32:47
  about
• 32:47
  that.
• 32:48
  It
• 32:48
  sort
• 32:48
  of
• 32:49
  becomes
• 32:49
  the
• 32:49
  same
• 32:49
  question
• 32:50
  then,
• 32:50
  are
• 32:50
  we
• 32:50
  building
• 32:51
  a
• 32:51
  system
• 32:51
  that
• 32:52
  brings
• 32:52
  people
• 32:52
  into
• 32:52
  the
• 32:53
  sport
• 32:53
  or
• 32:53
  one
• 32:54
  that
• 32:54
  just
• 32:54
  supports
• 32:54
  the
• 32:55
  very
• 32:55
  top
• 32:56
  of
• 32:56
  the
• 32:56
  sport?
• 32:57
  And.
• 32:59
  Well,
• 32:59
  I
• 32:59
  mean,
• 32:59
  I
• 32:59
  think
• 33:00
  you
• 33:00
  could
• 33:00
  argue
• 33:00
  right
• 33:00
  now,
• 33:01
  and
• 33:01
  I
• 33:01
  think
• 33:01
  a
• 33:02
  lot
• 33:02
  of
• 33:02
  people
• 33:02
  would
• 33:02
  agree
• 33:03
  that
• 33:03
  the
• 33:03
  sport,
• 33:04
  the
• 33:04
  way
• 33:04
  that
• 33:04
  it's
• 33:05
  headed,
• 33:05
  is
• 33:06
  beginning
• 33:07
  to
• 33:07
  include
• 33:07
  less
• 33:08
  people
• 33:08
  and
• 33:09
  it's
• 33:09
  starting
• 33:09
  to
• 33:09
  shut
• 33:10
  people
• 33:10
  out
• 33:10
  who've
• 33:10
  been
• 33:10
  in
• 33:11
  it
• 33:11
  for
• 33:11
  a
• 33:11
  long
• 33:11
  time.
• 33:12
  And
• 33:12
  it's
• 33:12
  not
• 33:12
  exactly
• 33:13
  opening
• 33:13
  the
• 33:14
  doors
• 33:14
  for
• 33:14
  people
• 33:14
  who
• 33:14
  really
• 33:15
  just
• 33:15
  want
• 33:15
  to
• 33:15
  get
• 33:15
  their
• 33:15
  toe
• 33:16
  wet,
• 33:17
  which
• 33:17
  is
• 33:17
  really
• 33:17
  sad
• 33:18
  to
• 33:18
  me.
• 33:18
  I
• 33:19
  agree.
• 33:19
  It
• 33:19
  just
• 33:20
  seems
• 33:20
  like
• 33:20
  the
• 33:20
  focus
• 33:21
  keeps
• 33:21
  moving
• 33:22
  higher
• 33:22
  and
• 33:22
  the
• 33:22
  entry
• 33:23
  point
• 33:23
  keeps
• 33:24
  getting
• 33:24
  smaller
• 33:25
  and.
• 33:26
  Right.
• 33:27
  Like,
• 33:27
  like
• 33:28
  the.
• 33:28
  The
• 33:28
  goal
• 33:28
  post
• 33:29
  is
• 33:29
  consistently
• 33:29
  just
• 33:30
  moving
• 33:30
  further
• 33:30
  and
• 33:30
  further
• 33:30
  downfield.
• 33:31
  It's
• 33:31
  like,
• 33:31
  oh,
• 33:32
  my
• 33:32
  God.
• 33:32
  It
• 33:32
  seems
• 33:33
  like
• 33:33
  our
• 33:34
  future
• 33:34
  and
• 33:34
  the
• 33:35
  sustainability
• 33:36
  of
• 33:36
  it
• 33:36
  is
• 33:37
  still
• 33:37
  remains
• 33:37
  to
• 33:38
  be
• 33:38
  seen.
• 33:38
  And
• 33:38
  I
• 33:38
  know
• 33:39
  that
• 33:39
  people
• 33:39
  are
• 33:39
  going
• 33:39
  to
• 33:39
  be
• 33:39
  talking
• 33:40
  about
• 33:40
  this
• 33:40
  for
• 33:40
  a
• 33:40
  long
• 33:40
  time.
• 33:42
  It's
• 33:42
  just,
• 33:42
  it
• 33:43
  seems
• 33:43
  like
• 33:44
  with
• 33:44
  this
• 33:45
  system,
• 33:46
  it
• 33:46
  protects,
• 33:47
  it
• 33:47
  structures,
• 33:48
  it
• 33:48
  produces
• 33:48
  results,
• 33:49
  but
• 33:49
  it
• 33:49
  also
• 33:50
  shapes
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  experience.
• 33:51
  And
• 33:52
  at
• 33:52
  some
• 33:52
  point
• 33:52
  you
• 33:53
  have
• 33:53
  to
• 33:53
  step
• 33:53
  back
• 33:53
  and
• 33:54
  ask,
• 33:54
  what
• 33:55
  is
• 33:55
  it
• 33:55
  exactly
• 33:56
  we're
• 33:56
  producing?
• 33:58
  It's
• 33:58
  not.
• 33:59
  Right.
• 34:00
  The
• 34:00
  idea
• 34:00
  is
• 34:01
  not
• 34:01
  to
• 34:01
  just
• 34:01
  be
• 34:02
  producing
• 34:02
  beautiful
• 34:03
  rounds,
• 34:04
  but
• 34:04
  we
• 34:05
  should
• 34:05
  be
• 34:05
  producing
• 34:06
  riders,
• 34:07
  people
• 34:08
  that
• 34:08
  actually
• 34:09
  know
• 34:10
  how
• 34:10
  to
• 34:10
  ride
• 34:10
  the
• 34:11
  sport.
• 34:11
  Right.
• 34:11
  Well.
• 34:11
  And
• 34:11
  I
• 34:11
  think
• 34:12
  it's
• 34:12
  the
• 34:13
  effective
• 34:13
  rider
• 34:14
  and
• 34:14
  the
• 34:14
  horsemen
• 34:15
  behind
• 34:15
  it.
• 34:16
  Right,
• 34:16
  let's
• 34:17
  have
• 34:17
  the
• 34:17
  beautiful
• 34:17
  round
• 34:18
  and
• 34:18
  know
• 34:18
  that
• 34:19
  there's
• 34:19
  some
• 34:19
  stuff
• 34:19
  to
• 34:20
  back
• 34:20
  that
• 34:20
  up.
• 34:20
  And
• 34:21
  those
• 34:21
  are
• 34:21
  skills
• 34:21
  you
• 34:21
  get
• 34:21
  to
• 34:22
  take
• 34:22
  with
• 34:22
  you.
• 34:22
  Absolutely.
• 34:24
  Because
• 34:24
  if
• 34:24
  you
• 34:24
  don't
• 34:25
  have
• 34:25
  a
• 34:25
  way
• 34:26
  in,
• 34:27
  you
• 34:27
  don't
• 34:27
  have
• 34:27
  a
• 34:28
  future
• 34:28
  for
• 34:28
  the
• 34:28
  sport.
• 34:29
  Thanks
• 34:30
  for
• 34:30
  listening
• 34:30
  to
• 34:31
  two
• 34:31
  point
• 34:31
  perspective.
• 34:32
  We're
• 34:32
  going
• 34:32
  to
• 34:33
  keep
• 34:33
  pulling
• 34:33
  on
• 34:33
  this
• 34:34
  because
• 34:34
  there's
• 34:34
  a
• 34:34
  lot
• 34:34
  to
• 34:35
  to
• 34:35
  talk
• 34:35
  about.
• 34:36
  So
• 34:36
  as
• 34:36
  we
• 34:36
  say,
• 34:37
  let's
• 34:38
  ride.