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Ecosistema lácteo de la Argentina - Invitado: Dr. Jose María "Cacho" Romero · Ecosistemas

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Hello from ecosystems. We send a fraternal greeting to all radio environment staff,
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the National Federation of Health Workers and its Secretary, Carlos Adamo, for allowing
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them to be part of this great family that is radio ecosystem environment under the
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prism of polyhedron. How today' s world works, increasingly complex, more
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uncertain, changing, seemingly chaotic, a world of all against all or all
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for all. Not one thing or the other. The world operates in a
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delicate balance of interacting ecosystems. I propose that you think together about how these
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ecosystems work. A small pocket manual, perhaps just a bunch of thoughts and
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reflections that allow us to accommodate, order, orient, understand how we work
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in these hyper- informed and communicated societies, where it is hard for us
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to discover their senses and motives every day. I invite you to listen and
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discover together these ecosystems in which we are often inserted without wanting to be part
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of them and which, however, are part of our daily struggles and disappointments
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and under the prism of polyhedron, because every ecosystem is composed of different faces
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or sides, with its vertices and particularities. Unity in diversity, where the
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whole is superior to the parties, the agreement superior to the conflict, reality
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is imposed on the idea and time space. This will enable us to build
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a sustainable world in an environment of humanity' s pollen, in harmony with
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the unique nature of our existence and the generations to come welcome. There are
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ecosystems under the prism of polyhedron It all started with a post of someone on
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a wall as it usually happens with today' s things, not in which
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it said something like that the cow does not give us the milk, but
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the milk has to be extracted from the cow, that you have to do
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a lot of work so that finally, with effort, sacrifice, perseverance work,
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that milk reaches the destination that must arrive. And then I thought I
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said and why not a dairy ecosystem of Argentina, why not think about what
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dairy production is like in our country, how is it that Mrs Vaca who
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gives us milk really depends on a complex work of rural people, agro-
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industry people and even then transport people, until finally reaching consumption. That'
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s why this dairy ecosystem that also has to do with a very difficult moment,
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that is living in Argentina, where consumption has fallen. There is a
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very interesting report that we have read this week that generated the Argentine Institute of
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Agroindustrial Development, which leads the former president of the Chamber of Deputies, Julián
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Domínguez, is Minister of Agriculture and to be able to talk about this dairy
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ecosystem and the reality that is living hard raw reality not only in consumption,
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but in producers. We' re looking for the best. As usual.
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You know that in this little radio show we look for the right voice and
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the right word. José María Romero brings her, Cacho, Romero, who
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visits us today in ecosystems? Poop, welcome, ecosystems. Thank you so
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much for this time to talk and think aloud about what. Tal. Good
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morning to you and good morning to you all. Thank you for the invitation
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and, obviously, available. You do. You are former Secretary of Livestock
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and Animal Production of the Secretariat of what used to be the Ministry of Agriculture.
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No yes, he was Undersecretary in the last period of Livestock and Animal
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Production of the then Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries, today Secretariat of
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Bioeconomy and in addition, you were Vice President of the Senaza. In that,
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in the specifically political executive sphere, let' s say no, but
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first your career has to do with the academic field. That' s very
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interesting, because you don' t come specifically from the field, but you
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come from the universities of knowledge. Yes, well, this is a tendency
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that Julián Domínguez has to summon people from the universities of the scientific, technological
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and, obviously also as veterinarian related to the productive system, with the productive
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system. But getting these two questions into the university, the productive and the
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experience in public management is what made me good to be vice dean twice deca
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of the National University of Pampa. Besides, some guy from inside or you
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were in the pampa a long time. Yes, yes, yes, Julián
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also has that characteristic of being very federal in the call that he makes with
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all those who accompany him in his management and to me a little bird has
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told me that you have a good arrival with the producer, that you have
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a good arrival with the man, that is all the time in the field,
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that you can transmit to them the needs and instead think a little how
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to devise or how to promote the development of that industry. Well, no,
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no, I don' t know if I talk to you about me,
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but I do have a very good relationship. We have worked hard in
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the last period, especially in the last year, with something that, if
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we can develop it, we will develop it. Yes, of course it
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was a program of firepower, of accompaniment of producer tambero during the year two
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thousand twenty- three with the enormous drought that it suffered. The sector suffered
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not only from the sector, but basically from the agricultural sector, but also
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from the dairy sector. There we were accompanying him with a really unprecedented program
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very good, because despite the drought, milk production did not fall in the
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year of the drought. Not to say, they were able to support it
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clearly precisely in the year of the drought that the drought of the century as
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they call it in the section of the last largest, the last seventy years,
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the production has been increased by fourteen percent in relation to this year and
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fifteen percent regarding the month of March. I mean, there was a huge
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job there, and that job was called a program. He called the bulldozer
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impulse, the bulldozer impulse, one the bulldozer boost two the producers. It
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was attempted to support those smaller producers, producers of up to 1, 500
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liters in a producer category up to five thousand and in the second program of
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up to one hundred thousand liters there was a program of impulse number one and
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a program of impulse number two. It was eight months during which the producer
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received, received into his current account. And I' m talking about an
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important scope, because the tambero boost two practically reached ninety percent of the milk
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marketers, and that implied giving them some educational subsidy to promote them to improve
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their safety directly. In this case it was financial aid. I don'
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t like to call it subsidy, because Brazil accused us of giving pingos on
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the subject is that we were subsidizing the tamberos. It was turned directly to
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the producer' s account according to the producer' s production volume, an
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amount that added momentum to a tambero boost two exceeds eighty million dollars. In
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eight months, the primary productive sector was supported with$ 10 million per month
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for eight months. In the last three months we have suspended export duties,
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which means more than twenty- six, twenty- seven million dollars and retained
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refunds, which are six million dollars. They could import to those who could
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export, to whom they could export it. Today, in order to lose,
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the suspension of right payment was extended, but the refunds were removed.
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You know this is a good radio where you try to get with the most
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plain message possible. So I' m going to ask you a first question,
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almost kindergarten, but necessary. How many cows there are in Argentina there
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are many, many more than I will say, but in the tambero sector
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there are about one million six hundred zero cows. That' s what he
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' s producing. They are in the productive system composed of about ten hundred
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productive units. Call it too much for people, though they are not synonymous,
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but somehow let' s take it as such, very rooting generator.
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In this sense, the tambero producer and the primary sector are directly in the
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countryside, something that is being lost today with a very low percentage of the
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inhabitants of our country living in the territory. And it is necessary to promote
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dairy is, in some way, to promote the rooting of people in the
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countryside and territorial distribution, which also implies this because, as you say,
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a significant number of companies. Yeah, yeah, just like the tamber producers.
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Although there are highly productive productive basins, the tamber producers are distributed throughout
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the national territory. And to think that these ten thousand two hundred productive units
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generate about forty- five zero jobs, jobs directly, directly in the field,
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because they are next to the Basque, everything in the field and every
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day, the three hundred sixty- five days of the year, an emblematic
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work of the work of the tambero. We are with Cacho Romero, with
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José María Romero, in this milk ecosystem. This one I know is not
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a children' s program, much less and that maybe the boys are not
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listening to, but I know that there is one that is listening to this
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program, then it is dedicated to him our first musical intervention, which has
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to do with putting in order that what he tells us, what the cow
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gives us and it is called the theme nothing more and nothing less than the
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clear cow lady or lady, what fear to go at. By all means,
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my teacher has taught us that it was in Pineda all if it is
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that, sir you know for that of life or stubborn tired I to do
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work, or it tastes under the po or monorada. So much, Mr
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Era, it' s silly if the banor now gives too much in his
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mirabes sito floor was the desonado and looking mother to this world, the group
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costume, the man in the dairy ecosystem of Argentina we are with our guest
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with Cacho Romero, former Undersecretary of Livestock and Animal Production and an expert in
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being able to let us know in some way what the ecosystem of milk production
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in Argentina is, because we were talking about more than ten zero producer establishments,
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forty- five thousand jobs, you said, well, there are milk
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processing industries a lot. It is also to say that it is a rather
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hegemonic system, not that one has one may think that there is some company
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very this, very hegemonic, like the very serenistic, but it is so
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or not well. Yes, our country has the characteristic of being very diverse.
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She good industrial is composed of approximately six hundred and eighty dairy industries,
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of which forty- six percent process between five thousand and five zero liters days?
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How much? How much? Of course, how many liters of milk
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per day Argentina produces about eleven thousand three hundred hundred million liters per year.
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Now we should divide it by the days. But when I asked you how
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the industrial labon is constituted. We' re talking about little ones from my
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SMEs. If that is my SMEs, they represent about forty- six percent
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of the six hundred and eighty. Forty- five percent process between five thousand
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and two hundred and fifty thousand liters days. It would be an SME and
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three percent process more than two hundred and fifty thousand liters of milk per day.
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Argentina is extremely diverse in this regard. I think it is very beneficial
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because many countries, in many countries, this is concentrated in very few companies,
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three, four companies, two companies in Uruguay, practically one. This
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diversity really gives us Terry dariality, roots, product diversity, quality diversities,
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product differentiation by region, by territory. I was thinking now that the issue
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of the market is promoted so much, how the state there in this case
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virtuously can make certain companies can continue to subsist, because if not, the
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market eats the biggest to the smallest and the story is over. No,
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of course. And Argentina is a great consumer of milk. This is one
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thing that is good for Argentines to remember Sometimes we don' t have it
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so present. But, for example, we are the country with the highest
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consumption of beef in the world and in consumption of carnal de lete in milk
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consumption. Last year, we' ve had a hundred and ninety- four
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liters per inhabitant per year. Well that means that the European Union is in
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two hundred and eighty liters as number one. The United States out there with
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two hundred and seventy- eight liters, two hundred and seventy- five liters,
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New Zealand two hundred and fifty liters, Uruguay two hundred and thirty liters.
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Costa Rica, which is a country that has a very small tradition,
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but very much with a high consumption of milk, more or less like us.
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To say that Argentina is the fifth country in consumption of milk per inhabitant,
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with one hundred and ninety- four liters. Now, as the population
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surveys say, this necessarily means that we guarantee the food of each of the
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children, who should drink one liter of milk per day. Okay. That
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is another issue and has to do with the distribution and the role of the
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State that it must play in order to guarantee precisely this, good infant nutrition
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and where milk plays a fundamental role. This fall that I mentioned just now
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of the consumption that we are going to talk about now, a little bit
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of eighteen seven percent of practically twenty percent of the consumption is really something worrying,
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I did not tell you, being another totally different field, such as
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sport and football. They don' t always say that our best players are
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gringa pampas and that they have to do with the food and milk they have
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taken when they were kids. No, they have hard bones. This really
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is easily verifiable. No, it' s not. Of course, milk
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is a basic food, a complete basic food, obviously recommended by the World
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Health Organization, where it estimates a minimum consumption, where many countries are well
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below minimum consumption. And Argentina is really proud to be able to say that
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we are above the minimum consumption recommended by the World Health Organization is the minimum
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one hundred and sixty liters and Argentina consumes almost produced. It consumed nearly two
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percent of the population last year, with one hundred and ninety- four liters
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per inhabitant per year. We had other better times. We haven' t
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reached two hundred and twenty- seven, two hundred and thirty liters. No
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yes, Argentina has been growing. In the 1990s the production was six zero
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million liters per two thousand. There we went ten zero million liters. Let
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' s say more cows or fewer cows at that time, not with the
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same amount I don' t say in the' 90s, but for quantity
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two thousand, and forward with the same amount. And that what is increasing,
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what the producer is doing is improving the productive efficiency, the efficiency in
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the quantity of liters produced per cow per year, the quality of that milk.
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Regarding technical issues related to the presence of microbes, the presence of cells
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that make a milk of lower quality, Argentina has been improving as in all
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aspects, incorporating science technology, innovation and Argentine tambo is extremely innovative and has
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incorporated many technologies that have allowed it to have today a very important efficiency of
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liters per cow per day. Another of the dairy lines are cheeses, because
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I believe that we Argentines are also great consumers of cheese, not that the
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most dairy production is carried by cheese. Of course, Argentines, as we
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often say, are great milk chewers, because partitionable, no yes, because
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sixty percent of the total milk consumption of an Argentine corresponds to cheeses, twenty
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- nine percent of the milk flowing good powder and eleven percent other yogurt products,
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other minor products. Me in those other minor products that are typical of
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feeding the little ones. I have seen, according to the report that you
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have made known recently that consumption fell tremendously more than fifty percent, fifty-
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four percent. The quality in what are after three hundred flane desserts, the
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fall is practically fifty percent and if we look at the month of March exceeds
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fifty percent. In the case of fermented milk yoghurts, the fall is 23
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percent in butter and milk dulce. To name emblematic issues. The butter in
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particular fell 13 percent, but in March falls 23 percent of the majority.
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What I think is that the first thing you stop buying is not the dessert
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butter, which could be the most nutritious thing that can accompany the milk itself.
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No yes, yes, and if we have a chance to go around,
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which is what happened in this quarter with consumption. We' re not
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gonna realize that people went down the habit. It passed from uncooled milk,
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let' s say long- lived milk. He went on to eat chilled
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milk, which is milk in Zachet. Finally, in March you already know
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that to consume it yes or yes, pro no. But by March,
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milk falls in Sanchet at an even higher level. Twenty- three percent of
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the milk consumption falls in Sanche in March and obviously, the first thing that
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comes out of the table are flane yogurt desserts sweet milk butter, which the
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values are just as I mentioned them, you high and too alarming for a
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quarter. He is with us horny is José María Romero talking about the milk
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ecosystem of Argentina. Someone who thought of cows, but especially of other cows.
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It was from Tahualpa yupacchio in the sands bay the lord rowing. The
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sun plays in the brightness of the stone and lit to the magic of the
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roads the arriero, Bano the arriero is flag of fog so poncho to the
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wind, greet him the flute of the bajona and encouraging the troops on those
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hills of the arriero, Bano of the arriero, the sorrows and the vaquitas
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go by it center. The sorrows and the vaquitas go down the same path.
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The menus are ours. The vaquitas are the sorrows of us. The
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machitas are foreign. One of the sollipops shows the afternoon they' ve fallen
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asleep. The lights of the stony and encouraging the troops give you the left
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- winger, the arriero ah mal Haya. The night brings the memory that
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they do less to weigh the solitude as shade in the shade on those hills
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of the sierobán the arriero. The sorrows and the vaquitas go for the same
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people. The sorrows and the vaquitas go down the same path. The veins
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are ours, the vaquitas are foreign. The sorrows are ours, the vaquitas
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are those. And attached to the magic of the roads of the arrieroma tore
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down ecosystem badly acteo in Argentina with romero puppy. After listening to Don Atahualpa
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in this very intimate and particular version of the driver, his composer, writing
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and somehow, painting a story that touched him had crossed with one driver and
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told him that the cows were from another. Not that barbarian. And I
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think that you too all the time come across the reality that the cow is
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foreign, yes, but good from the public service. It seems to me
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that it is to be understood that somehow we have to harmonize all these pieces
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that sometimes appear as loose in the popular imagination or in the common people.
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It is necessary to bind each link, that each link has its profitability,
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that the dairy producer can be, have, can sustain himself in territory,
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can generate roots, can live in dignified conditions, can have connectivity, can
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have light, can have roads, can be in the territory. No.
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No, it' s not easy. I come from a very particular province,
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from the province of La Pampa, the province with fifty percent aridity.
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I say arid because others would classify it as a desert to say it'
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s a desert. If he still has, he' s got, he
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' s got. We have, we have a dairy basin, a milk
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basin was important. But I was telling you this about the desert. It
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certainly means an uninhabited place, and that place is inhabited by us, in
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this case, the Pampeans, so I prefer to say that it is an
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arid, although technically it sounds much more rare. I would still like to
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discuss some issues that have to do with some rivers that have been cut,
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which have been limited in their amount and their flow has not. And that
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discussion that the pampa still has with mendoza and if it is probably the most
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emblematic claims of our province, the Atuel River and our Governor and for all
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the pampeans is the priority issue to work and to defend for the not construction
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of the dam sport only of the wind. Returning to the dairy issue,
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which dairy basins are in Argentina, which are the dairy basins. The most
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important basins are located in the Province of Buenos Aires, than in the province
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with the highest milk production. He is followed in the Province of Córdoba,
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in the province of Santa Fe. The province of La Pampa has its basins,
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but not the volume or comparison with these three provinces that Santiago del Estero
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was talking about. But we will find in each province a small basin that
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supplies the capital city, a locality with a small dairy industry that in turn
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makes its local supply products. Today, we have to bear in mind that
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the issue of logistics, especially because of carbon footprints and some issues that are
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going to have to do with this. Milk, because we have a very
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low percentage of solids, we are transporting a lot of water. The footprint
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becomes too wavey, let' s say, and too large, and this
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distribution is needed and territoriality and geographical distribution is still extended so that milk production
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is as close to the consumer as possible. Of course and this could,
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let' s say, be nothing extraordinary, no, no, not at
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all. In the pampa we have a very successful experience that led that is
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taking forward the government of the province of la pampa with a dairy industry managed
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by the government of the province that is called mus where it supplies everything that
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it contributes to the province, to canteens, so schools and well, everything
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is produced there only milk is produced. Yoghurt is produced, milk is seduced.
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Well, it' s expanding and it' s expanding its capacity and
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that' s really an example of how you can and can do well.
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Moreover, of course, it is another form of economy, a social economy
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that clearly with a state enterprise dedicated to at least covering the basic food issues
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of its own population, as it is. I think that' s going
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to create a huge virtuous circle. First, because the producer finds in the
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vicinity a company that can withdraw his milk. That' s a huge advantage
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for the safety product. Also the work he is doing not but being a
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victim of always having to buy the same one that puts you the price and
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forget and clear in this case, for example, in the province of Pampa.
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I don' t know exactly right now, but at the time I
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was chatting, which wasn' t long ago, they were paying him a
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20 percent producer overprice. For producers over 20 percent price is twenty percent profit.
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It' s very important. In addition, the product is cheaper is
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made in place, it is of very high quality. It is related to
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the science and technology of the province, say, to the University, to
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a quality control laboratory. It is linked in plotting that allows the province to
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supply this social production, that the province needs to do so when that road
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was lost and because it has to be resumed. Let' s say no,
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because it would be good to understand where we were wrong and that it
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could not be developed that every town has its own tambo and that you drink
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takes its own milk. It' s a complex road. It' s
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a complex multifactorial, multifactorial path. I say because when we analyze profitability,
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in profitability, the scale has a lot to do with it. Then there
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you are playing in a very thin thread. If you fall too low on
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scale, you start to lose profitability. It' s hard for you to
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sustain yourself and obviously, those who have very high production are thinking that there
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are tambos of more than one hundred zero liters days, one hundred fifty zero
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liters enormous days with very high technology, with the very high efficiency, milking
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and voluntary, where the cow will milk voluntarily. What' s he like?
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That' s the robotic tambo. In the robotic cambo, the good
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cow that is confined, is not in the field, but is confined.
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A lot of people think it' s actually because it' s full of
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lagures. She' s going to milk, actually because she gets a story.
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It goes through a machine. The machine locks her up. At that
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moment she reads it and when reading it she knows when she was milked.
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If it was eight hours, ten hours, nine hours, if it had
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been a few hours, it gave him a little encouragement and he would lower
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him fifty grams of food and open the door for him to leave. When
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you understand that enough hours have passed, milk the robot machine. In this
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case, the robot' s milking machine gives you the necessary ration for the
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crimes produced to balance your daily intake and the cow withdraws calmly. So the
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cow goes because she' s hungry, so it' s called voluntary milking.
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It is finished by the order, by hunger, by curiosity, by
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tranquility, by feeling at ease in the neo- environment. It' s
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thrown out, ruminating, it gets up, it goes through the machine.
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The machine, the law identifies it and can also give you all the characteristic
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performance of that cow. How many litos you give by day the quality of
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the milk, milk analysis, how many technological processes that are being incorporated.
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So it' s that well, that' s pretty much the way.
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We have to go on incorporating technology. We have to incorporate technology, We
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have to cooperate, We have to associate, learn to associate also the Argentines,
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so that, at best, a group of small producers of milk or
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small tamberro producers who have a limited number of cows can associate in the productive
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system and generate, from the cooperativism and the associativism, a more efficient and
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more profitable system, to which technology can be put and which benefits everyone.
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I was going to ask you how many cows you have today an average of
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a tambero to give up production. It' s hard to establish, I
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' m telling you because I' m going back to the same thing.
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It' s multifactorial. Most tambos are produced in a rented tamo. So
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already the rent in kilos of soy that the producer pays is an external factor
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that plays on them. This which plays you and is external because it depends
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on the value of the dollar, of international value of soy. Based on
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that, it varies the cost of the land it rents. To that you
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have to add the degree of efficiency that this producer has, the quality of
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milk that he has and, therefore, the overpayment that he has for the
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quality of milk. But, well, the average tamboo. If we do
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an average of Argentina, which does not mean that this has been true.
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This applies to the 150 gallons per inhabitant. Not that I hope, they
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reach everyone who said jauretche about there were two wooden chickens. I didn'
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t eat any, but you don' t eat mine. But it turns
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out we both ate a chicken. That path to efficiency is essential, but
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the average gives us about 150 heads, one hundred and fifty cows per tambo
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in Argentina. Obviously we are talking about some producing 1, 500 liters and
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others producing 150 thousand liters days. The universe is absolutely diverse. Of course
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he' s with us. Poop rosemary in this milk ecosystem I know,
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don' t tell me anything. He stayed eager to listen to divided people
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singing the driver are byrd caught the neighborhood bombros de s ceased the river s
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through the cities, so on the same path or the five meals are based
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by the look his so play o s r s o s s so grass
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themes or divided live. In addition, live version of how the words of
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that gaucho are repeated Singing with the guitar that we saw we just listened to
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this fantastic version, so strong, so flattening, where we return with the
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same anxiety to see that the sorrows are of us and that the vaquitas are
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foreign, but that they have to give the milk to us all as appropriate.
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That is why I return this work, this analysis of the first trimester
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of the two thousand twenty- four on the chain of the field or dairy
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cattle that the Argentine Institute of Agroindustrial Development has made public, which can be
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seen through Instagram. The institute can be accessed. It' s very clear,
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very useful, understandable and I was going to ask you pussy based on
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these results, what you' ve researched, and what producers can expect and
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what they' re going to ask you for. Let' s say no
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good to the producer. Today, the price of milk received by the producer
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could be said to be a reasonable price. It is a price that,
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if the rest of the variables were in order, the producer today would have
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profitability when we think it has been in negative profitability, where the State has
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assisted him between fifteen and twenty percent of the milk lith produced, paying him
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an additional price, because obviously the profitability was negative. We had to hold.
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It was necessary to sustain the price in order to sustain the producer,
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in order to sustain the tambero, in order to sustain the people in the
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countryside and in the future we could meet with the living system that could react
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immediately after the drought. It' s not this problem today. It'
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s not a drought problem. It was a caloric stress problem. Well,
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we all know what happened mostly in February this year, where there was a
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very important caloric stress. Its affects the opposite of believing baa greatly lowers production
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the cow suffers greatly from caloric stress. Some of the reserves suffered caloric stress
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and today the producer finds that it produces 15 percent less in March than it
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produced last year in the middle of a drought. I' m not talking
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about Argentina' s best year of two thousand fifteen, where we produced twelve
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thousand three hundred million liters. Last year with eleven thousand three hundred million liters
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in the middle of drought, the producer was in difficulty and today with fifteen
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percent less production in March and fourteen percent less in the quarter finds in the
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lowest volume produced today the greatest limitation to achieve profitability. The point is,
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when it' s not sold here, it' s exported. Overall,
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and in this quarter, although there was a fall in March, the increase
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in exports was six comma seven percent, that is, lower output than last
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year. Fourteen percent less export than last year, a six comma seven percent
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more. Among that stands out the milk powder and lowers the consumption and I
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consume it very clearly. The only one is for the three variables to adjust
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production, export and consumption. Okay. If production fell, export growth has
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to fall drastically. Consumption. No. No, no, no, there
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' s another way. No. I' m asking you hot, because
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you always say good. Otherwise, if you don' t consume it here,
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it' s no problem. This one' s not gonna stay there.
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Without it being consumed, sold outside and ready, the problem is solved.
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But our people don' t have milk. If we, in fact,
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are seeking from the Institute and from the policies that we are plotting the
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Institute is to achieve greater production so that there is sufficient domestic supply and,
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obviously, increase the exports that allow Argentina to enter dollars, which is the
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déps that we have and the debt that we have to extinguish in dollars.
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In this case there is this combination of low production and export increases, where
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milk powder increases by eighteen comma eight percent, where those that increase by eleven
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comma one percent. And in the domestic market it falls that twenty- three
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percent was made in March. Cheese consumption. Milk also falls twenty- three
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percent. The average consumption of cheeses in March falls 17 percent. Just as
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I counted desserts and flans ca fifty percent yoghurts and fermented milk twenty- three
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percent. Keep twenty- three percent. Alarming numbers in consumption. I'
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m worried about and we' re worried and we' re designing policies in
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the future to be able to present to you the productive society and the Argentine
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society in general, a virtuous circuit of this where we achieve greater production,
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obviously with greater exports for genuine sportable balances and that Argentines have. But the
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fall in the consumption of Argentines is not due to the least production, but
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to the least purchasing power. If the food fits twenty- three eat eight
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percent, how much we think the milk will fit. That' s what
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counts, because it' s something that' s gonna fit the song.
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There is also a transfer of first quality, second quality or third quality and
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how this is maintained in the balance of small producers. Let' s say
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the small producers pass to the front here if they are looking for another quality
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or an alternative. Not general girls to the producer. It is not a
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matter that affects him so directly if it has to do with the industrial guan.
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Over there, in industrial water, some minor dairy industry to see.
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I was going to say a word that bothered me when I thought it less
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prestigious, less knowledgeable by people is less propaganda, less publicity. Since December,
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since the 1970s, we do not have the law of gondolas, for
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example, and there is no commitment to have several brands in supermarkets, so
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one goes to the big chains of supernmericade. Find one or two marks.
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No more than that, and you have to see if the two brands are
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different or the same company. No, I don' t. Added that
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supermarkets, in general, have a payment system too long that can withstand a
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big company, but I can' t stand it a small pymelactica where it
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tells you I' ll pay you 90 days. With inflation of this kind
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he' s going to deliver us. Like this. So we can get
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back to the law that we should have. Even that is not useful for
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a dairy SME industry today. I think it' s worrying. Low consumption
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is worrying. Let' s think that in March, to mix something more
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than we were talking about and working at our institute, thirty- two percent
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of meat consumption fell. We drilled the forty kilos of history. It was
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never consumed less than 40 kilos in Argentina throughout the history of Argentina. Here
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' s a problem with purchasing power, because if you tell me or if
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you ask me or the people who are listening to us and say well,
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well, the outside will pay it less than ten comma five percent the price
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per tons carried And yet, the volume increased because there is no consumption.
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It was sold cheaper, sold out, sold yet there is no other possibility.
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But you don' t have consumption, you don' t have purchasing
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power, you don' t have purchasing power, the industry. All he
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has left is to dry that powdered milk, take it out at any price
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and with a fall I already repeat you of ten comma five percent. In
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the international price we increase 18 percent as 8 percent of milk powder. The
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exports of milk powder, well, because you have to take it out and
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you have to take it out. I think that in the agro- industrial
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field what is leaf. That is why the issue of the internal market has
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no greater impact. But in what is meat and what is milk, which
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is what we have been seeing most in this programme, the internal market is
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very much needed in order to sustain the industry. The domestic market in the
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case of dairy, in the year twenty twenty- three represented seventy- six
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percent in this so far this year, so far this year, is representing
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less than seventy percent with a fallen international market, that is, forced to
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export with a fallen market because we do not have consumption in the domestic market.
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And we have no consumption because there is no purchasing power if we take
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the period of income from my law to or this government for not putting it,
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because it is a whole government not, from this government, since it
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assumed to the month of March. The fall, for example, that was
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ten comma four in the quarter and the fall of cheeses was more than twelve.
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It fell more in this period than the fall of the quarter, that
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is, Argentines are suffering as a result of the policies being adopted. Not
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that people have stopped wanting to drink milk. On the contrary, it is
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a necessity and a necessity, as you say, for young people, for
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adults and for all. And it is truly a pride that Argentina can say
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is in the lot with the European Union, New Zealand, the United States,
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Uruguay, in the consumption of animal protein. Hopefully, let' s
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not lose that lot and hopefully, as we said earlier, reach the last
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of the Argentines and get the chance to feed it and nurture it properly.
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Thank you very much. It' s been a very good, very thoughtful,
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insightful talk that' s easy to understand. Look for the analysis that
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is worth thinking about and analyzing the variables to know where we want to go.
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Te. Thank you very much not thanks to you and a greeting from
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me and from all of us on the one- way team. José María
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Cacho Romero, member of the Argentine Institute of Agroindustrial Development, was with us
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talking about the milk ecosystem of Argentina. That' s how he liked it.
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You know, pass the saint and sign around a lot of thanks to
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everyone. My name is Luis del Giovannino and we find here three ecosystems s
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s s s chas and all I exact. Many or s c to the
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movies to help, be good with jack or what mansan n or get not
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bad or in place regarding or