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  Speaker 1: He's the report tonight. Where is the Prime Minister? There
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: so many questions for him to answer about the freemius
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: he took from Quantus, but today he was in hiding.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: What a lack of leadership. Has put out a statement
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  Speaker 1: just a few minutes ago claiming, oh, I didn't ring
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  Speaker 1: the conto's boss directly, but there are big gaps in
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  Speaker 1: what he didn't say. Also, today the government claims victory
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  Speaker 1: over inflation, fact check coming up and journals stand Grand
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  Speaker 1: fronts a new documentary and says we must face up
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  Speaker 1: to the lies about a terrible pass. Well, it's the
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  Speaker 1: time I corrected some of his own untruths. I think
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  Speaker 1: we should be stopping now politely taking this kind of rubbish.
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  Speaker 1: And a shocking development in the case of the three
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  Speaker 1: girls stabbed to their in Britain. A few months ago,
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  Speaker 1: police said it was nothing to do with terrorism or Islam,
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  Speaker 1: and people who protested that they were liars were jailed.
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  Speaker 1: But now stunning admissions from police that will shatter faith
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  Speaker 1: in them In the new British government.
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  Speaker 2: I'm seriously concerned that the facts may have been withheld.
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  Speaker 1: First, Joe Barden just made his biggest goof up yet
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  Speaker 1: the one that could have guaranteed Donald Trump wins next
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  Speaker 1: week's American election. Biden called Trump supporters garbage in a
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  Speaker 1: blunder that sums up exactly the problem with America's left.
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  Speaker 1: As I said last night, the President has wanted to
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  Speaker 1: get out to help campaign for Kamala Harris as vice president.
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  Speaker 1: Harris is teeners even going no, no, no, stay home Joe,
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  Speaker 1: But he couldn't help himself too proud and gave an
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  Speaker 1: interview today and blew the joint sky high. Until then,
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  Speaker 1: Kamala Harris had actually had probably her best day in
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  Speaker 1: the entire campaign, and I was thinking, wow, hang on,
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  Speaker 1: could she actually win this? She had some good poll
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  Speaker 1: numbers the day She's spoke in Washington before the biggest
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  Speaker 1: crowd of seeing her draw and his speech was very strong,
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  Speaker 1: even though I thought it was built in a giant
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  Speaker 1: lie that Trump was the new Hitler.
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  Speaker 2: We know who Donald Trump is.
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  Speaker 3: He is the person who stood at this very spot
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  Speaker 3: nearly four years ago and sent an armed mob to
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  Speaker 3: the United States Capital to overturn the will of the
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  Speaker 3: people in a free and fair election. Donald Trump intends
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  Speaker 3: to use the United States military against American citizens who
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  Speaker 3: simply disagree with him. We are not a vessel for
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  Speaker 3: the schemes of wanna be dictators.
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  Speaker 1: Now I think all that's dangerous and devisy of nonsense,
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  Speaker 1: but you can see it was pretty strong. And what's
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  Speaker 1: helped Harris make this case that foul joke that a
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  Speaker 1: comedian told of Donald Trump rally a Madison Square guns
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, a joke mocking Puerto Ricans,
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  Speaker 1: just when Trump needs to win Latino votes. Now, as
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  Speaker 1: I've shown you, the joke in fact bombed with the
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  Speaker 1: Trump crowd, but Harris has been milking it as proof
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  Speaker 1: that Trump is a racist, the man of hate.
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  Speaker 4: But there's literally a floating island of garbage in the
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  Speaker 4: middle of the ocean right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's.
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  Speaker 4: Called Puerto Rico. Okay, all right, Okay, we're getting there.
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  Speaker 1: As I showed you, the crowd didn't like it. But
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  Speaker 1: this was hurting the Trump campaign. And you can tell
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  Speaker 1: because Trump today is Israelly got a Puerto Rican supporter
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  Speaker 1: on stage to tell him he was actually great.
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  Speaker 5: The people of Puerto Rico.
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  Speaker 3: Trust you, I don't have high hopes as many Americans.
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  Speaker 5: We need this man back in the White House.
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  Speaker 1: Trump then called up another Latina Republican Senator Marca Arrubia,
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  Speaker 1: who then broke the news Judd Biden had just gone nuts.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm breaking news for you, mister president. You may
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  Speaker 6: not have heard this. Just moments ago, Joe Biden stated
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  Speaker 6: that our supporters our garbage, our garbage. He's talking about
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  Speaker 6: the border patrol, he's talking about nurses, he's talking about teachers,
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  Speaker 6: he's talking about everyday Americans who love their country and
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  Speaker 6: want to dream big again and support you, mister president.
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  Speaker 6: And I hope their campaign is about to apologize for
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  Speaker 6: what Joe Biden just said. We are not garbage.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was true. Judd Biden has been losing his
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  Speaker 1: script so badly that he sect as the Democrats candidate
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  Speaker 1: had now destroyed Kamala Harris's campaign as well.
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  Speaker 6: Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state of Delaware,
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  Speaker 6: good decent, honorable people.
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  Speaker 1: The only garbage I see floating down there is his
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  Speaker 1: orders now in every way, this was devastating for the Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: and they've seen this horror movie before when Hillary Clinton
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  Speaker 1: lost the Trump eight years ago after also trashing Trump voters,
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  Speaker 1: showing all the arrogance of the left.
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  Speaker 7: You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I
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  Speaker 7: call the basket of deplorables, right.
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  Speaker 5: The racist, sex.
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  Speaker 1: Is homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, you name it. So you guess
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  Speaker 1: what's going to hurt most. I mean, is it a
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  Speaker 1: comedian a Trump's rally call calling Puerto Rico garbage or
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  Speaker 1: President Biden himself calling half the American voters garbage for
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  Speaker 1: lacking Trump. But what's even worse for Harris is that
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  Speaker 1: Biden said out loud. But Harris's whole campaign has just
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  Speaker 1: been implied over the past week or two attacking Trump
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  Speaker 1: as the new Hitler that's already suggesting his voters and Nazis.
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  Speaker 1: And it sums up the contempt and the arrogance of
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  Speaker 1: so many of the modern left. You even had Harris's campaign,
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  Speaker 1: her own running mate Tim Walls likening Trump's Madison Square
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  Speaker 1: Garden rally to a rally at the same venue in
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  Speaker 1: ninety thirty nine by Nazi supporters, fascists and ethnic Germans.
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  Speaker 8: There's a direct parallel to a big rally that happened
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  Speaker 8: in the mid nineteen thirties at Madison Square Garden.
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  Speaker 9: And don't think that he doesn't know for one second
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  Speaker 9: exactly what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: There, Well, two can play that game. I could point
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  Speaker 1: out that where Kamala Harris spoke today was where the
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  Speaker 1: Ku Klux Klan held the rally in nineteen twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Coincidence or deliberate, Yes, Sir, Joe Barden, he just ran
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  Speaker 1: with a Kamala Vaye set out loud that Trump voters
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  Speaker 1: were trash, and in doing that he exposed the hypocrisy
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  Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris, who was calling Trump today a wannabe dictator,
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  Speaker 1: a petty tyrant, wanting to take away all American rights.
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  Speaker 1: And then came he was actually Trump who was spreading
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  Speaker 1: hate and fear and division.
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  Speaker 3: It is time to turn the page on the drama
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  Speaker 3: and the conflict, the fear and division.
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  Speaker 1: And then along came Joe and turned Harris's big day
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  Speaker 1: into a total disaster. Joined me from Los Angeles is
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  Speaker 1: Sky New's host James Morrow, now part of the team
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  Speaker 1: over there covering the election for US. James, great to
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  Speaker 1: see you. I'm sorry to have you so late or
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  Speaker 1: so early, whatever it is. James Biden has since said
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  Speaker 1: this misspoke. He bespoke. He when he said garbage, you
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  Speaker 1: just meant the comedian, not all Trump. Supporters. Is that
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  Speaker 1: going to save the Harris campaign?
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  Speaker 10: Well, I don't think so, because you know, we both know, Andrew,
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  Speaker 10: there's a great rule in politics, and that is when
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  Speaker 10: you're explaining, you're losing. And what's happened today, Well, it
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  Speaker 10: went from Donald Trump having to go and explain away
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  Speaker 10: that comedian that he had at the rally who gave
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  Speaker 10: Kamala Harrison the Democrats so much fodder, to now Joe
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  Speaker 10: Biden and the Democrats having to explain away Joe Biden's own gaff.
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  Speaker 10: And the way I kind of feel like it is here, Andrew,
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  Speaker 10: is that Joe Biden says what the Democrats are thinking.
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  Speaker 10: He's kind of like the Democrats unfiltered. So when he
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  Speaker 10: goes and says, you know, old Trump supporters a trash
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  Speaker 10: everybody on the right is trash or garbage, well that's
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  Speaker 10: what they actually think. And so it just takes away
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  Speaker 10: from the whole idea of you know, unity and joy
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  Speaker 10: and togetherness that the Kamala Harris campaign tries to protect.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's funny, you know, you know when I keep
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  Speaker 1: saying it's true his one lands where is the comedian?
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  Speaker 1: Is this idea that Trump a fascist? Normally fascists are
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  Speaker 1: proud of it. You know, they said, we're fascists, we're
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  Speaker 1: national socialists, we're Nazis. Trump denies it, so some fascists there. Look,
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  Speaker 1: until then, though Harris has had a strong day, hadn't
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  Speaker 1: she What did you make of a big speech? Well?
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  Speaker 10: Look, weird thing about the speech was that it was
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  Speaker 10: pitched as this great sort of unifying speech, and yet
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  Speaker 10: the entire speech is just simply obsessed with Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 10: And what would Donald Trump do if he comes to office.
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  Speaker 10: You know, Trump has an enemy's list. Trump would do this,
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  Speaker 10: Trump would do that, Trump would politicize this and that.
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  Speaker 10: But you know, we still hear very little about actually
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  Speaker 10: what the Harris campaign will do. We hear very little
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  Speaker 10: about what she would do to actually unify Americans. And
• 9:44
  Speaker 10: this is a great problem. You know, it's the same
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  Speaker 10: thing we always see. We see it in politics in Australia.
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  Speaker 10: The left the right things. The left is wrong, the
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  Speaker 10: left things the right is evil. And that's the great
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  Speaker 10: danger I think is that if Kamala Harris does get
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  Speaker 10: over the line next week, and there is every possibility
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  Speaker 10: she does, then we will have a far more divided
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  Speaker 10: edation than I think you would under Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I totally agree with you the mixed messages. The
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  Speaker 1: first six minutes of her speech were entirely about Trump
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  Speaker 1: being the new dictator, and the rest was half and
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  Speaker 1: half a little half about her and half about wicked Trump.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is, I think it was based on nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was contradictory. I thought it was mixed messages.
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  Speaker 1: But I did think it sounded powerful and she seemed
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  Speaker 1: assured in giving it. Now we have been assuming that
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  Speaker 1: Trump is in the lead, but today, after that speech
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  Speaker 1: to a huge, very big crowd, I did wonder whether
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  Speaker 1: this race is much closer. What's your gut feeling.
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  Speaker 10: Look, my gut feeling is that this is a very
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  Speaker 10: close race. I do not think it's necessarily going to
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  Speaker 10: definitively fall Donald Trump's way. I know that the Paul
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  Speaker 10: suggests that. I know that if you look at the
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  Speaker 10: early voting trends, that suggests it. But the other thing, though,
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  Speaker 10: I would say Andrew, is that right now, I think
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  Speaker 10: almost all votes are pretty much baked in. So even
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  Speaker 10: if Donald Trump has this spectacular sort of you know,
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  Speaker 10: or Kamala Harris has the spectacular sort of speech and rally,
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  Speaker 10: now it's not necessarily going to move the needle that much. Really,
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  Speaker 10: at this stage, it's about the ground game, and it's
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  Speaker 10: about getting out the vote, and that's where I think
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  Speaker 10: we're gonna wind up seeing the result of this. It's
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  Speaker 10: not about, you know, her giving a really powerful speech
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  Speaker 10: at the end, because everybody knows who she is, everybody
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  Speaker 10: knows who Donald Trump is. By now they've priced these
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  Speaker 10: things into their voting equation. I don't sense there are
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  Speaker 10: very many undecided voters out there.
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  Speaker 1: And just finally, James, just quickly, what is Kama Harris
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  Speaker 1: thinking about her boss now her old boss?
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  Speaker 10: Well, you know, I can't imagine all the thoughts of
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  Speaker 10: that pleasant because Andrew, let's not forget this is not
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  Speaker 10: the first time that we've seen in this campaign Joe
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  Speaker 10: Biden do something say something that winds up throwing Kamala
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  Speaker 10: under the figuretive boss. You know, you remember a few
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  Speaker 10: weeks ago during the disaster relief in North Carolina and
• 12:00
  Speaker 10: Joe Biden got up and for the first time in
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  Speaker 10: his presidency, entered the media briefing room with the White
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  Speaker 10: House had got up and said, oh, Kamala Harris, she's
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  Speaker 10: been with me every step of the way of my
• 12:10
  Speaker 10: administration helping with me with the legislation, the policies, the
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  Speaker 10: plans and all of that. And you know, everybody looked
• 12:16
  Speaker 10: at it and said, whoa, this is just totally destroys
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  Speaker 10: her ability to you know, run away from that record.
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  Speaker 10: So this is not the first time this has happened,
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  Speaker 10: because I think that the theory is that Joe Biden
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  Speaker 10: wants to be able to say on some level there
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  Speaker 10: that he was the only president to defeat Donald Trump
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  Speaker 10: at an election. He wants that to be his legacy,
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  Speaker 10: having been shutted aside by the Democrat establishment.
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  Speaker 1: A Freudian slip in this mistake of Freudian slip you're suggesting,
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  Speaker 1: James Row looking forward to your reports from over there.
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  Speaker 1: Have fun. Thank you so much for your time back
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  Speaker 1: to Canberra. You know, Anthony avidis us in deep trouble
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  Speaker 1: because today no media, no interview, no press conference. It's
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  Speaker 1: like the Prome minister is in having, which means minister
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  Speaker 1: after minister had to front up today and answer for
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  Speaker 1: him why it was acceptable to take upgrades from Qantas,
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: especially when he was Transport Minister and allegedly even asked
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  Speaker 1: for them. Now it's unbelievable asking for upgrades for holiday trips,
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  Speaker 1: I mean Rome and Hawaii, wherever a minister after minister
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get their own messages out today, having to cover
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  Speaker 1: for a prime Minister who I think lacks is freebies
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  Speaker 1: far too much.
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  Speaker 11: If Anthony of an easy sort or accepted upgrades for
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  Speaker 11: private travel, he'd been breach of his own minister or
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  Speaker 11: code of conduct and also his Transport minister in breach
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  Speaker 11: at the rud Gillard minister Or code of conduct. Isn't
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  Speaker 11: that unethical conduct?
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe so.
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  Speaker 12: And I think that the Prime Minister has gone out
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  Speaker 12: of his way multiple occasions this week to answer questions
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  Speaker 12: about this issue.
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  Speaker 13: If people have got allegations to make about this, we
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  Speaker 13: would invite them to make those allegations.
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  Speaker 14: But he has otherwise accounted for himself properly.
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  Speaker 15: The Prime Minister has complied with all of the rules
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  Speaker 15: that have been in place for many, many years.
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  Speaker 1: Now. I have to say that ALBINIZI just a few
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  Speaker 1: minutes ago put out a statement saying that he had
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  Speaker 1: not contacted the contus boss, Allen Joyce directly to ask
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  Speaker 1: for these upgrades. No, he had not done that, but
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  Speaker 1: left unsaid not denied was whether maybe he or his
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: staff had rung I know the Countess little staff that
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  Speaker 1: the liais with government to ask for that, or maybe
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  Speaker 1: the hotline that the Chairman's lounge to ask for the
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  Speaker 1: upgrades that is not mentioned. So we wait for that,
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  Speaker 1: And I just wonder how long Labor is going to
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  Speaker 1: tolerate upgrade Albow a prime minister has led them from
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: one embarrassment after another to since Australia rejected his one
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: big crusade for the voice has lost ever since. And
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  Speaker 1: I wonder why he and his ministers don't get how
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  Speaker 1: wrong this, all this upgrades and allegedly asking for them
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  Speaker 1: with whom we don't know it really is. Why is
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  Speaker 1: it acceptable for Alban is he as Transport minister to
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  Speaker 1: us Quantas allegedly for upgrade's worth maybe ten thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: a time twenty thousand and again and again.
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  Speaker 16: When he was Transport minister of our country, did he
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  Speaker 16: pick the phone up to the CEO of Quantas and
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  Speaker 16: ask for a free upgrade? That's the question that he
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  Speaker 16: refuses to answer. Now he can tie himself in all
• 15:31
  Speaker 16: sorts of knots, but the reality is that he needs
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  Speaker 16: to answer that fundamental question.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: That's what the standard is. Now can a treasurer and
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: now can the treasure Jim Charmers now ask a bank
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: to knock down his mortgage by thousands of dollars? How'sing
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: minister as a construction company to can you do some
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: free rennos on my beach house? What's so magical about
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  Speaker 1: freebies from an airline that that kind of gift alone
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  Speaker 1: doesn't count? And Avanz, the inflections I think show a
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  Speaker 1: man is just slashing out as lost that I have
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  Speaker 1: an update on that, by the way. I mean yesterday
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  Speaker 1: I showed you Albany's he attacking the journals who broke
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: this story, Joe Aston, falsely claiming that Assen had adman
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  Speaker 1: he once worked for the Liberals, as it showed you
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  Speaker 1: he'd done that in the very first sentence of his
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  Speaker 1: new book. But Albany is he also had a whack
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: at the opposition leader, saying Peter Dutton was worse.
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  Speaker 13: I didn't have to declare any flights on private jets
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  Speaker 13: owned by billionaires like Gena Ryan Hart because I haven't
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  Speaker 13: engaged in it. As simple as that. And it's up
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  Speaker 13: to mister Dutton to explain how those flights were organized
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  Speaker 13: to private parties.
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  Speaker 1: Well, actually Dutton flew three times on Rahwinehart's planes or
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: on planes hard by her. One was to get to
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: the Barley bombing commemoration in Sydney after the Albanizy government
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: turned it down for the vip plane going there. And
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: twice she flew him off to Western Australia to the
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  Speaker 1: remote Pilborough to attend a function, and four that it
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  Speaker 1: otherwise wouldn't have been able to squeeze in. He was
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  Speaker 1: there very briefly. Now you might not look that like
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  Speaker 1: that look but here's the difference. Dunton was doing reinhard
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  Speaker 1: a favor with those two flights by going. Wasn't the
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: other way around, and it was worked. It was not
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: like you know, fly me to Honolulu or fly me
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: and my son to Rome. Join me. Is the political
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  Speaker 1: panel Camera Milner formative for staff to Labor leader Bill
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  Speaker 1: Short now director of g XOS Strategies and Michael cossa
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  Speaker 1: former New South Wales Labor Treasurer Cameron. How bad is
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: this for Anthony Albanezer should just repeat that he says
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  Speaker 1: he denies having rung Alan Joyce directly, but is silent
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  Speaker 1: on whether he or is staff rang anyone else.
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  Speaker 17: Well, it's about as bad as it can get, andrew
• 17:50
  Speaker 17: as bad as it can get. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 17: a bonfire of the vanities for Albow. I mean this
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  Speaker 17: has taken four days for him to come clean with
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  Speaker 17: a part answer, a part answer. The simple thing is
• 18:00
  Speaker 17: he should have turned it down anyway because he's the
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  Speaker 17: Minister of Aquatas. The Minister of Aquatas was taking freebies
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  Speaker 17: from the very airline he was regulating.
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  Speaker 1: That's why he reached the ministry or code of conduct.
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  Speaker 17: That's also why the National Anti Corruption Commission actually.
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  Speaker 1: Has to investigate this. If Alba had a shred.
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  Speaker 17: Of decency, it had nothing to fear and nothing to
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  Speaker 17: hide his self refer because this is a complete scandal,
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  Speaker 17: complete scandal that a minister responsible for Contus, which is
• 18:25
  Speaker 17: hardly a popular airline out there, and Alan Joyce, hardly
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  Speaker 17: a popular CEO, was taking freebies from him while turning
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  Speaker 17: a blind eye to competition and turning a blind eye
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  Speaker 17: to all the terrible things that Quantus was doing to.
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  Speaker 1: Its workforce and everything else.
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  Speaker 17: Now, this is scandal and only the knack the National
• 18:41
  Speaker 17: Andi Corruption Commission can get to the bottom of this
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  Speaker 17: and get to the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Michael, what do you make of it?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I think politically this is absolute dynamite. I think
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  Speaker 9: that you've got a prime minister that now is in
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: trouble politically and it will be less popular than his
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: party the way things are going. Look, the perception is
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: going to be out there that Albo is more interested
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: them in perks than he is in policy. He definitely
• 19:10
  Speaker 9: has to clear the air. That statement there doesn't clear
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: the air. It basically leaves open whether somebody else contacted
• 19:16
  Speaker 9: on his behalf and he needs to clarify that. I
• 19:19
  Speaker 9: don't have a problem with upgrades for work purposes. The
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: problem here is the upgrades for private travel, and let's
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: not avoid the issue. That's the real issue here. And
• 19:29
  Speaker 9: there's a secondary issue to do with Quantus itself and
• 19:32
  Speaker 9: it's operations, and I think that's the purpose of the
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: point of the whole book that has just been released.
• 19:37
  Speaker 9: Quanas has been using an operation to pedal influence and
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: that needs to be dealt with. You know how many
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: people are on the chairman's lounge list. They order to
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: declare it it's a public company. If people are getting
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: upgrades on seats that could have been sold. That's a
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: shareholder matter. And remember Quantus has just been fined a
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: one hundred million dollars for deceptive behavior by the A
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: Triple C S. Look, we've got an airline that got
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: problems and we've got a prime minister that's got a
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: perception problem. And I agree with Cameron this needs to
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: be looked at by the National Corruption Commission, not in
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: relation to the upgrades itself, in relation to that Qatar decision.
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: We still don't know what was the rationale for that decision.
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: What was the public policy interest in banning Qatar airlines?
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: We know that it's increased the cost of travel. The
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: Anti Corruption Commission needs to have a look at it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well Cameron, you both mentioned that the National Anti
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Corruption Commission should be looking at it. The opposition has
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: suggested that Alberaniz refer himself to that. But now we
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: find out the head of the Commission is himself a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: member of the Quantus chairman's lounge, as is the CEO,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: as are four of the deputy commissioners. I mean, Peter
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: doesn'ts as it doesn't matter, But what do you think
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: can this commission of Quantus Chairman's Yemen's Club members now
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: investigate Albanezi over his links the quantas well.
• 21:07
  Speaker 17: Just being in a chairman's club doesn't mean that you're
• 21:09
  Speaker 17: corrupt or that you've got a problem, so let's set
• 21:12
  Speaker 17: that aside. I mean, I think it's an image problem.
• 21:14
  Speaker 17: I agree with Michael that corner should absolutely acts the
• 21:16
  Speaker 17: chairman's lounge. After this, it should be gone, should be gone.
• 21:19
  Speaker 17: There's a grift that involves, the graft that involves shouldn't
• 21:22
  Speaker 17: be in Australian politics any longer. But no, I think
• 21:24
  Speaker 17: the knack is set up by Albanese, by Dreyfus to
• 21:27
  Speaker 17: get to the very bottom of these sorts of things,
• 21:29
  Speaker 17: to restore public trust in decisions that ministers have made,
• 21:32
  Speaker 17: and Albo clearly made clearly made decisions by sins of
• 21:35
  Speaker 17: emission and sins of commission. So things he set aside
• 21:38
  Speaker 17: and put off for another day helped Coutus and key
• 21:41
  Speaker 17: decisions also helped Connus directly while he was receiving, as
• 21:44
  Speaker 17: Michael says, personal benefit, not for work, personal benefit to
• 21:48
  Speaker 17: get first class trips around the world. That's why we
• 21:51
  Speaker 17: have a National Anti Corruption Commission, and that's why Albanese
• 21:54
  Speaker 17: should be witness number A for the knack.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Well he did. Of course, I should put it for
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the record that there is a connection between any deals
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: he was freebusy was given and decisions he made. But
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the point is that people can ask these questions. Is
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: exactly why he should have refused the gifts, because of
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the perception and the possibility of that. Andrew. Now the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: inflation figures today, Michael headline. Inflation has fallen to two
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: point eight percent. That's under the three percent limit of
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: what inflation should be. But that's only because of the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: subsidies to power bills, especially the government's been paying out
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and they're only temporary. The real inflation rate, the TRIUM mean,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: is still three and a half percent, too high to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: cut interest rates, although the Treasurer, of course today was
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: whooping it up.
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: Here is today's numbers show that we are on track
• 22:45
  Speaker 12: for a soft landing in our economy. We are confident,
• 22:49
  Speaker 12: but not complacent about the substantial progress that we are
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: making as a country. Inflation is back in the band, Michael,
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: cost The are coming down, so that is good. But
• 23:02
  Speaker 12: what do you make of the figures and the chances
• 23:04
  Speaker 12: of an interest rate cut before the election.
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: Well, I don't think there'll be an interest rate cut
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: before the February RBA board meeting, and that's what's clear
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: from today, because you know, you can spin it all
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: you like, but the bottom line is it's still outside
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: the trim, moon is still outside the band, and we've
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: also got a very buoyant labor market. Then we saw
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: those recent figures in the labor markets showing that it's
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: still very buoyant. I think you'll be very optimistic to
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: think we're going to have one this year. The problem
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: for the government is twofold. Firstly, if they get a
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: rating cut before after the February meeting, I still don't
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: think that's going to be enough. It's likely to be
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: a small rate cut, and while they can argue whatever
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: they like in terms of the hip pocket, it's not
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: going to make much difference. And secondly, they've got a
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: set of deficits coming in budgets going forward and that
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: will be taken into account by the Reserve Bank in
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: terms of spending a demand in the economy. So I
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: think they're in a difficult situation. I noticed that the
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: Treasurer started talking about the soft landing rather than interest
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: rate cuts, so he clearly doesn't expect one either.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Cameron, can I just quickly finish with you. I know
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: that you're a fan of Jim Chalmers. It is interesting
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that he was out there announcing good news, fronting the cameras.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: The Prime Minister meanwhile was in hiding. How long before
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Charmers thinks that he'd be the better go to run
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the government.
• 24:35
  Speaker 17: Well, I think Chalmers is the better guy to run
• 24:37
  Speaker 17: the government. I've said that on your program. Look, the
• 24:39
  Speaker 17: Labor Caucus has got a huge problem with alban easy
• 24:41
  Speaker 17: because it's all about Alba when it comes to Alba,
• 24:44
  Speaker 17: not about the ALP And we've got to get out
• 24:46
  Speaker 17: there and actually fight cost of living and Jim Chalmers
• 24:48
  Speaker 17: is doing that today while Alba was in witness protection.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And when you think he's going to decide he
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: should take over.
• 24:59
  Speaker 17: Well, Ucas has got to move and I think the
• 25:01
  Speaker 17: next three weeks in November are critical, critical for Caucus
• 25:04
  Speaker 17: members to come back from electorates to work out whether
• 25:06
  Speaker 17: Albanese can actually do what needs to be done during
• 25:09
  Speaker 17: the campaign, because goodness knows, the last week and the
• 25:11
  Speaker 17: week before with a four point three million dollars retirement
• 25:13
  Speaker 17: home are disastrous disastrous and that was an election campaign
• 25:17
  Speaker 17: labor be gone.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think he might just be saved at Albanize
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: this school, coming a bit late in the season, but
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you never never know. We shall see Michael Costa, Cameron Milner,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much to you both. After the break,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: police in Britain make a shocking confession about a mass
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: murder that they claimed had nothing to do with terrorism.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I want to get to something sinister that the health
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: ministers said about the damning COVID inquiry yesterday, the one
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: that said the people who lost faith in our politicians
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and health experts after all that crazy stuff they did
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to us. But that's actually part of why had a
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: collapse of faith in experts, a lot of faith in
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: them telling us the truth, whether it's on COVID, on climate,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: on crime or immigration. In Britain now a stunning example
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: last July, three girls were stabbed to death at a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift dance school. Riots then broke out, with writers
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: blaming those killings on a supposed Muslim immigrant attacking a
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: mosque and hostels housing illegal immigrants. No, said the police,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the alleged killer was actually British and there was no
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: sign that he was Muslim, or that this was a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: terrorist act, and the Prime Minister key Istarma vound to
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: smash the writers who had been so wrong.
• 26:43
  Speaker 17: I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder,
• 26:48
  Speaker 17: whether directly or those whipping up this action online.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: And boy where they smashed. This grandfather with his signs
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: saying police were corrupt, was jail two and a half
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: years for abusing police of the protests, and has just
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: reportedly killed himself in jail, and that means he's missed
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: out on hearing he might actually have been correct about
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the police, among other things. The alleged killer, well, we
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: already knew he was actually the son of Rwandan immigrants,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: but now police admit they've just charged him with terrorism offenses.
• 27:24
  Speaker 18: The additional charges are the production of a biological toxin
• 27:28
  Speaker 18: namely ricin country to Section one of the Biological Weapons
• 27:32
  Speaker 18: Act nineteen seventy four, and possession of information namely a
• 27:37
  Speaker 18: PDF file entitled military studies in the g had against
• 27:42
  Speaker 18: the tyrants the al Qaeda training manguel likely to be
• 27:46
  Speaker 18: useful to a person committing or preparing to commit an
• 27:50
  Speaker 18: act of terrorism.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Oh so it was actually working off a training manual
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: of the al Qaeda Islamus terrorists. Well strike me surprised.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Joining me on culture Wars is Rowan, Dean, editor in
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: chief of the Spectator Australia, a host of outsiders on
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Sky News every Sunday at nine am. Rowan, this development
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: is going to be devastating for trust in the police
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: or in Britain's new labor government.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: And quite rightly so, Andrew.
• 28:21
  Speaker 14: I mean, the murder of the three girls who are
• 28:24
  Speaker 14: attending a kind of Taylor Swift to dance class academy
• 28:27
  Speaker 14: whatever was literally shook Britain to the core. It's just
• 28:32
  Speaker 14: such a horrific crime and people were rightly terrified, angry,
• 28:38
  Speaker 14: so many emotions, and those emotions spilled out into social media.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: And the one thing that we've learned that there's sort.
• 28:45
  Speaker 14: Of authoritarian left and if you like, the kind of
• 28:49
  Speaker 14: globalist open borders crowd hate is any kind of linkage
• 28:55
  Speaker 14: between three things that's the immigration, terrorism or crime and Islam.
• 29:01
  Speaker 14: And they'd go out to any length to avoid any
• 29:04
  Speaker 14: linkage between those three things in the public mind.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: The public, however, you know, look at what.
• 29:11
  Speaker 14: Happens before their eyes, or read the newspaper or whatever,
• 29:13
  Speaker 14: and will make that linkage and will express their horror
• 29:18
  Speaker 14: in that instance. So in that time what happened was
• 29:20
  Speaker 14: people started putting out on social media all the guy
• 29:23
  Speaker 14: who murdered the three girls was an immigrant. Now what
• 29:27
  Speaker 14: they're actually and this, of course racism. All of a sudden,
• 29:29
  Speaker 14: they you know, how dare you say that? The police said, oh,
• 29:32
  Speaker 14: by the way, it was nothing to do with terrorism.
• 29:34
  Speaker 14: So the assumption is it's some kind of mental disorder.
• 29:37
  Speaker 14: So you get all this obfuscation and dissembling of the reality.
• 29:41
  Speaker 14: But people who protest against this say no, no, no,
• 29:44
  Speaker 14: And there were some dreadful things that happened in those protests, throwing,
• 29:48
  Speaker 14: you know, attacking asylum hostels and that sort of thing,
• 29:52
  Speaker 14: which is deplorable, and quite rightly was deplored. But the
• 29:55
  Speaker 14: problem is those people who were all the majority of
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: them who were angry, weren't angry about the importing of
• 30:03
  Speaker 14: immigrants by race or religion. They were angry about the
• 30:07
  Speaker 14: importing or the immigration of ideologies, and that specific ideology
• 30:13
  Speaker 14: being Islamist radical Islamist terror ideology. So when they were
• 30:18
  Speaker 14: talking about an immigrant, it turned out that this character
• 30:21
  Speaker 14: who did the murder, it was his parents who are
• 30:23
  Speaker 14: the immigrants. He grew up, he was a British citizen,
• 30:25
  Speaker 14: he grew up in Britain. Therefore, that gave the authoritarian
• 30:30
  Speaker 14: left the excuse to damn anyone who dared suggest that
• 30:34
  Speaker 14: this character was in some way driven by an imported ideology,
• 30:39
  Speaker 14: that they were racists and therefore they had to be
• 30:41
  Speaker 14: hounded and therefore thrown into jail and all sorts of things.
• 30:44
  Speaker 14: But the reality is people were simply protesting about the
• 30:48
  Speaker 14: fact that what has happened to countries like Britain and
• 30:51
  Speaker 14: America where you had most many European countries where an
• 30:56
  Speaker 14: alien ideology has been imported to.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: The detriment of the citizens, and that is the number
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: of it. And by lying about the heart of that issue,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: that's where left wing authoritarian own all governments to something
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: greater or less a degree risk alienating the population because
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the population doesn't trust the authorities when they tell them
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: it wasn't terror related, or no, it wasn't it.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: We've seen they were already here in their.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Own and that's where the troublic loses.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: You see, they're already here. Sorry, I don't think people
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: believe half we said. We're told about it you know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: we had a police commissioner in Victoria telling us, oh,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: there are no things as youth gains. This is some
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: time ago, and you know, no, you know, there's no
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: particular ethnic crime problem has certainly turned out to be.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the whole thing is to joke. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: should point out that maybe the police weren't lying. Maybe
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: they've only found this Alqaeda manual now, but it all
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: seems rather odd and I think a lot of people
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: be rightly suspicious. The government yesterday quickly rowan release a
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: report into by the medical experts appointed by the Ovenues government.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: SAT state governments imposed bands during the COVID pandemic that
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: weren't scientific and caused a lot of harm. Harsh border closures,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: harsh lockdowns, ludicrous bands on playgrounds and going to the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: beach and so on. Federal Health minister today claimed he
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: had the solution. I consider it a threat.
• 32:21
  Speaker 15: Here is our contribution to rebuilding trust is going to
• 32:26
  Speaker 15: be to put in place Center for disease Control. That's
• 32:28
  Speaker 15: the key recommendation. To have a single authoritative source of
• 32:33
  Speaker 15: expert advice about how to respond to a pandemic like this,
• 32:36
  Speaker 15: and to ensure that that response is based in evidence
• 32:39
  Speaker 15: and grounded in really good data.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Now, Ron, can you explain to me how having a
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: next one extra health bureaucratry the font of all wisdom,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: how that's going to stop this happening again? When health
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: bureaucrats were actually causing this panic, claims it up to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand of us would die, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: then they actually recommended all these bands.
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: Well, this just shows how idiotic and out of touch
• 33:07
  Speaker 14: this government is. And this is the problem with these
• 33:09
  Speaker 14: big authoritarian governments. They think the answer to problems is
• 33:12
  Speaker 14: more authoritarian governments re.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And this is what misinformation is all about.
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: So all during COVID, we learned that many of the
• 33:19
  Speaker 14: ideas put forward by yourself, myself, many other people, contrarian.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Ideas, dissenting ideas.
• 33:25
  Speaker 14: Hang on, if you thought about this, have you thought
• 33:27
  Speaker 14: about that they were all labeled or many of them
• 33:29
  Speaker 14: were labeled misinformation? You're conspiracy theorists, all this sort of thing,
• 33:33
  Speaker 14: so many things I could reel off. The conspiracy theorists
• 33:36
  Speaker 14: are actually on the right track, taking off the you know,
• 33:39
  Speaker 14: banned all the rest of it.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: They are actually on the right track.
• 33:42
  Speaker 14: Now, the reality is that more information more points of
• 33:46
  Speaker 14: view is what is.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: The sanitizer for it?
• 33:49
  Speaker 14: Not big government, not more authoritarian draconism. That is all
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: well in it is wrong and this government is completely
• 33:55
  Speaker 14: on the wrong.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Track on this.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Rowan ten out of ten, absolutely correct. Thank you so
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: much for your time. After the break, Stand Grant Front's
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: a new documentary about how NUS wisdoms came to Australia
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: before bad bites. Now. Grant in this movie calls for
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: truth and I'm going to give him some. We have
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: so many attacks now in our culture and our history
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that we can't afford to just keep just politely shutting
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: up and taking it. It's causing too much damage. Latest example,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: journalist Stand Grant features in a new documentary so supposedly
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: challenge the lies about Captain Cook by celebrating, as said,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the history between Muslims and Indigenous Australians.
• 34:46
  Speaker 19: We've never really told the truth of Australia. It's not
• 34:50
  Speaker 19: a story of the past two hundred years. It's a
• 34:54
  Speaker 19: story that is tens of thousands of years old.
• 34:58
  Speaker 20: When a nation is founded on a line, then how
• 35:02
  Speaker 20: do we find a sense of belonging and connection? How
• 35:07
  Speaker 20: do you find a place for first people for other
• 35:10
  Speaker 20: people who come to make this their land. When you
• 35:13
  Speaker 20: know who you are, when you know your kinship, when
• 35:17
  Speaker 20: you know your connection, there is a deeper truth.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: You think it's odd that we can't now celebrate James Cook,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: but we told now to celebrate Muslims instead. It came
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: before him before seventeen seventy from Indonesia to fish, they say,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: for see cucumbers and eventually form friendship, family and history.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Don't mention claims they possibly brought small pox as well. Now,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: this documentary is produced by the Islamic Abu honey For
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Institute in City. So you can guess the agenda of
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Muslims good by colonialis bad. So why is Grant part
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: of it? Well, I'm guessing is still on his anti
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Australia kick. And if it's now telling us we must
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: tell the truth. I'm going to look at this part
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: claims and tell him some hard truths about them. For instance,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: this one.
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: In nineteen sixty three, when I was born, I was
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: counted among the flora and fauna, not among the citizens
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: of this country.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Totally false. That's an urban myth. This is also false.
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: In the eighteen twenties, the soldiers and settlers waged a
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: war of extermination against my people.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: No, there never was a war of extermination of Aborigines
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: by whites. Grand also talks about the Stolen generation when
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: our courts still haven't identified even one child stolen just
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: for being Aboriginal. May be surprised, but it's true. And
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: then there's his tales of atrocities, like his claim told
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to his son that White's poisonous people at poisoned water
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: holes creek near neiranderra Nerander, causing many Aborigines today. In fact,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: the local historian George Gower nineteen fifty one wrote in
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the Randa Paper that this was a myth invented by
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the poet Mary Gilmore, who'd even claim some magistrate ordered
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that these holes be filled in up to a height
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: of twelve feet, which her uncle, she said, did. But
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: check for yourself, it's not filled up at all. The
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: stories kroc Stan Grant, really, when is he going to
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: give up this rant against Australia and count his blessings?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Joining me on news Wato. Sophie Ellsworth, media writer of
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: The Australian, Sophie great to see you again. Look I
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: remember interviewing Sam Grant decades ago when he was host
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: of a current affairs show on Channel seven, he was
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: already a star. He's had a blessed career working over
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: CAAs etc. Many journists would actually feel lucky and privileged
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: to have a career like that, wouldn't they.
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: Stan Grant has had certainly an incredible career, Andrew.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: He's been known in the Australian media.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: For what four decades or so until his career came
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: to that pretty sudden ending with the ABC and it
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: was quite some fallout. But this new doc documentary, I
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: see some of the commentary around it is that it's
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: here to reassure young Muslims. Now, what concerns me is
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: with the history and these sort of documentaries. Are they
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: based on fact or are they out there for feeling?
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: And why are these documentaries being created? Where are they
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: being shown? Are they being shown to school children and
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: so forth? And I think that's really important, Andrew. But
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: Stan Grant is on a quest here to really make
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: his name in regards to really speaking on a lot
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: of the history of Australia but also ripping up some
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: of it and saying this is actually what happened. And
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: I think out there, there is concern that we're almost
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: made to feel bad for the history that Australia does have,
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: some of it good and some of it bad.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, you make a very good point. This is mission history,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: which history with a mission which isn't really history at all,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: because it twists things to paint a story that people
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: want to believe but maybe isn't actually true. And I
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: think we need to fight back. Can I just ask
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: you it's been a particular bugbear of mine for thirty
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: five years now the ABC has had its Media Watch show,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: which has been acting like the ABC's media policeman, punishing
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: bad opinions rather than bad journalism. Now, for all that time,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: every single one of its hosts has been of the left,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: including the current one, Paul Barry, but he is now quitting, Sophie.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Is there any chance at all that after thirty five
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: years of having only hosts of the left, the ABC
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: will now choose one who's a conservative, Well.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Andrew, they shouldn't have to choose a conservative.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: They should choose someone at the taxpayer fund and broadcaster
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: who is right down the middle and looks at all
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: sides of media.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: And unfortunately for Media Watch, which and.
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: The viewers out there we pay for it is on
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: a mission to attack News Corp week in week out,
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: barely looks at The Guardian, other at left wing outlets
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: such as the Criche and so forth. Paul Barry doesn't
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: touch the ABC much himself, and so I think there
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: are concerns that this is really just a show that bashes.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: Anyone with conservative views.
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: And I think Paul Barry, especially in his final months,
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: has done himself extreme disservice here because people can see
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: through it. It's a mission to attack conservative media and
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: basically ignore the left media. So I think many people
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: won't be sorry to see Paul Barry move on. But
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: I think with Kim Williams there, Andrew, maybe we will
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: see finally some change with that program.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Well you say that, but where's the extra balance that
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: has been calling for you to see it? So might
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: be early days, but where is it?
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: Well, it's hard to find, Andrew, and it's disappointing because
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: the ABC does do some very good work, particularly in
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: regional Australia where the ABC is very important, but you
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: turn on much of their programming and you can see
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: the left bend across many.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: Of their shows.
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: You have to turn on Q and A, which has
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: almost become completely irrelevant.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Andrew and it's just a left leaning.
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: Hate fest of the right, and people don't watch it anymore.
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: It's on a night and late at night, people don't
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: tune into it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: And also we've seen the changes with Radio National.
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: Patricia Cavellis is no longer going to be host of
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: Our and Breakfast. The ratings there are diabolical. Kim Williams
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: is very concerned about this, so I think there are
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: people in the ABC, and I know this because they
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: contact me, are happy that he's trying to shake things up.
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: But he has one almighty giant task on his hands.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: He sure does. If you could get debate going there,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: equal debate, not just one token conservative getting hold down
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: and belittled, I think that they obviously be much more watchable.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: So for Elsworth, thank you for your time. After the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: break Just where is the Prime Minister today? I mean,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: there is this government getting kicked to death about its
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Quantus scandal, so why is he in haiding? This is strange.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: For five days the Prime Minister has had this scandal
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: about asking allegedly for freebies from Quantas and where is
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: he today. I mean, shouldn't he be out there trying
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: to kill this story help his government by giving straight
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: answers like you know, no, I didn't. I didn't ask
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: anyone at Quantus for any upgrades and or did any
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: of my staff and said, you know, just that one
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: statement saying I didn't ring and enjoys personally for them
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and this will guarantee the story is going to run.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Joining me Daniel Wild, deputy execut director of the Institute
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: of Public Affairs, and Garth Hamilton for a Liberal MP
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: from Queensland. Daniel, no word today from the Prime Minisy
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: except for that and biguous statement just at the very
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: end of the day. What does all this.
• 43:13
  Speaker 21: Mean, well, Andrew, it shows that Anthony Aberesi and his
• 43:19
  Speaker 21: fellow travelers business class battlers. You know, they're happy to
• 43:23
  Speaker 21: talk about their Housing Trust Commission day as while they
• 43:25
  Speaker 21: have another bottle of chardonnay on the house on taxpayer's dime.
• 43:30
  Speaker 21: And you know it just get to this point, Andrew,
• 43:32
  Speaker 21: that this country is run by a group of insiders
• 43:35
  Speaker 21: for their own benefit, not for the benefit of regular Australians.
• 43:38
  Speaker 21: We know that there was a quid pro quo with
• 43:40
  Speaker 21: Quanas they would support racial division in our constitution with
• 43:44
  Speaker 21: the Voice to Parliament giving in kind financial support, getting
• 43:48
  Speaker 21: all of the campaigners up the front end of the jet.
• 43:50
  Speaker 21: In exchange, Anthony Aberesi would direct his transport ministers to
• 43:54
  Speaker 21: stop guitar coming into the country, reducing competition and our
• 43:58
  Speaker 21: aviation sector and propping up quanus prophets. So it's another
• 44:02
  Speaker 21: example of this cozy club that exists so clearly Andrew
• 44:05
  Speaker 21: clearly there was a relationship between Alan Joyce and the
• 44:10
  Speaker 21: Prime Minister and it's not surprising he's trying to dodge it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 21: But as you rightly identify, this story is going to
• 44:15
  Speaker 21: keep going for probably a number of weeks.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Now. It's weird, isn't it, Garth. I mean John Howard.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I liked him, but a lot of people didn't as well.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: You know the division there. But whether you liked him
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: or not, he came out whenever there was a problem,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: he came out and went bang, you know, tried to
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: kill it right there. He was confident. It's weird to
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: see the Prime Minister keep this going but not coming
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: out unless he spent the day he trying to get
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: his stories straight without and Joyce to make sure he
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: didn't say anything that and Joyce would contradict. Maybe that
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: was why he couldn't come out. I don't know.
• 44:54
  Speaker 22: Well, do you remember during the election campaign leading into
• 44:57
  Speaker 22: the twenty twenty two election he went into high then
• 45:00
  Speaker 22: as well. When he couldn't answer what the cash rate
• 45:03
  Speaker 22: was and he didn't appear to be doing so well,
• 45:05
  Speaker 22: he just disappeared. And once again he's disappeared, you know
• 45:10
  Speaker 22: at the time of his convenience. There's a lot of
• 45:12
  Speaker 22: questions he has to answer here. I think this is
• 45:14
  Speaker 22: clearly hurting him, no question whatsoever. There are some big
• 45:18
  Speaker 22: questions that he's going to have to answer next week
• 45:21
  Speaker 22: in Parliament when we find out a bit more about
• 45:23
  Speaker 22: what that relationship was like and what that connection was.
• 45:27
  Speaker 22: I think it's fair that the Australian people get some
• 45:29
  Speaker 22: answers from our Prime minister on this one. We all know, Andrew,
• 45:33
  Speaker 22: we're in a cost of living ye do it hard
• 45:36
  Speaker 22: around the country.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Is how is reacting issues really is? How it's reacting
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: is not showing leadership. It is you know, like I say,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: John Howard would come out and try and knock it
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: on the head straight off, but running away from.
• 45:52
  Speaker 22: It like this and That's why we remember John Howard
• 45:55
  Speaker 22: as a leader. That's why we talk about him as
• 45:57
  Speaker 22: a leaders. We look back on John Howard and see
• 46:01
  Speaker 22: there above hawks, look people who could stand up and
• 46:03
  Speaker 22: stand by their convictions.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Yep, Daniel, there's another mystery here in this whole thing.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: You've got the TiAl Independence right in Parliament. They campaigned
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: against corruption. They canpaign for a new anti corruption commission,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: very sanctimonious. But from them again nothing I mean, here's
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Independent Center to David Pocock claiming there's nothing to see
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: here about you know, these allegations of soliciting gifts of
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: upgrades from Quanta series.
• 46:33
  Speaker 23: Would you personally considers any of the referral to the
• 46:36
  Speaker 23: NAP I won't be referring this as I said, I
• 46:38
  Speaker 23: think this is this is an important thing. There are
• 46:41
  Speaker 23: questions to answer, but don't let this distract us from
• 46:44
  Speaker 23: the bigger issue. We should actually have a broader discussion
• 46:47
  Speaker 23: about reform when it comes to gifts, when it comes
• 46:51
  Speaker 23: to lobbying, when it how.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Come most of the tears I think Colledgorispender might be
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the one exception. How can they be so indifferent to this?
• 47:02
  Speaker 21: Well, because integrity is a performative political exercise used as
• 47:06
  Speaker 21: a political Culdgel Andrew. That's what it's always been. It's
• 47:09
  Speaker 21: rules for the and not for me. Now what Senator
• 47:11
  Speaker 21: Pocock is saying, sure, let's have reform on these issues,
• 47:14
  Speaker 21: but you can walk and chew gum. I mean clearly
• 47:17
  Speaker 21: if you're going to have a National Anti Corruption Commission,
• 47:19
  Speaker 21: which is one of the things that the Teals campaigned on,
• 47:21
  Speaker 21: I mean, this is one of their three pillars was integrity.
• 47:24
  Speaker 21: And now you've got a Prime minister who is clearly
• 47:26
  Speaker 21: engulfed in this scandal and they're basically running defense for him.
• 47:31
  Speaker 21: These are the tills that vote eighty percent of the
• 47:33
  Speaker 21: time with the Greens and themselves claim to be independent. Well,
• 47:35
  Speaker 21: there's no integrity in that either. So look, I think
• 47:38
  Speaker 21: Australians are starting to see through the tills for what
• 47:41
  Speaker 21: they really are, Andrew, which is basically just a lighter
• 47:44
  Speaker 21: shade of green.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine what Manick run have to say with
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Scott Morrison that had done what Albanize is alleged to
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: have done. Just quickly gath the federal report yesterday on
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the pandemic, saying the state's overreacted. There's another sign of
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: that overreac still lingering on a Victoria, which is of
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: course the worst state. It's still has bands on thirty
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: nine firefighters coming back to work because they refuse to
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: get vaccinated. With sorter firefighters, some is coming still these
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: firefighters can't come back. Does that make sense to you?
• 48:17
  Speaker 22: Absolutely does not. If one thing we learned throughout that
• 48:20
  Speaker 22: whole process is I think we need to put common
• 48:23
  Speaker 22: sense first. We hear a lot from experts, but goodness me,
• 48:26
  Speaker 22: there are some basics that we need to get right
• 48:28
  Speaker 22: in place. A real firefighter myself, I'd hate to think
• 48:33
  Speaker 22: that my colleagues and I would be ruled out from
• 48:35
  Speaker 22: providing that service to our local community. It's an absolutely
• 48:39
  Speaker 22: ridiculous situation. You'd hope we could learn from that period
• 48:43
  Speaker 22: and make some good decisions for Australia. Goodness me, I
• 48:47
  Speaker 22: think we all want to make sure that we came
• 48:48
  Speaker 22: out of that period a better place and never go
• 48:51
  Speaker 22: back to it again.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one thing that's been holding us up
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Garth is that we've it was so scarifying. It's so
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: awful that ministraaners don't want to even think about what
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: we went through. Just makes you sick, and yet the
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: risk is that we don't learn the lessons. Garth Hamilton,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Daniel Wilde, thank you very much to you both. That's
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: it from me. Sherry Marson is next. Good Night,