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Patriots Unfiltered 5/20: Tuesday OTA Recap, Positional Observations, Culture · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 1: I mean your Mike is unparticular. Yeah, it's okay. Watch
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  Speaker 1: your piece.
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  Speaker 3: Dog in the show here.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, this was the episode that Mike do So was
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  Speaker 4: excited about the future.
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  Speaker 3: I just I saw I'm able to jump into practice,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Ten wins.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been two more wins last year, which
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  Speaker 2: means two more wins this year, which means the floor
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  Speaker 2: is eight.
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  Speaker 3: Fred has spoken.
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  Speaker 1: The ceiling is settled for Paul.
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  Speaker 3: I am still I'm body surfing, I'm old, and I
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  Speaker 3: still are not recovered. And then I was at the
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  Speaker 3: Celtics game.
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  Speaker 2: You got into it with a shizil barn on the market.
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  Speaker 3: Does he care? We're working on it, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: some people just don't care. Married to whatever him. Hard
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  Speaker 3: to imagine that this was off the market. Well, I know,
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  Speaker 3: I saw you. I like blue suit and your Harbor cruise.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 2: atchi Lets Stadium, and it's a busy day. It's the
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  Speaker 2: first O t A that the media has had access to.
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  Speaker 2: So right now you see that I'm all by my lonesome,
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  Speaker 2: I'm fred Kersh. But soon, in momentarily I'll be joined
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  Speaker 2: by the gang.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: They're just wrapping up practice in player availability after practice,
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  Speaker 2: so uh, don't fear you won't have to put up
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  Speaker 2: with just me for the next two hours.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: But as I said, practice was today, I was out
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  Speaker 2: there for a little bit before I had to come in.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty nice day here at Jillette Stadium, a little overcast, cool,
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  Speaker 2: I would say, you know, a little mile for this
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  Speaker 2: time of year, temperature in the fifties, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of breeze. Teams were out in helmets in shells, so
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  Speaker 2: they had their jerseys on with their numbers as in
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  Speaker 2: years past. Remember sometimes they didn't put numbers on until
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  Speaker 2: into training camp at some point when the preseason game started.
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  Speaker 2: But they had numbers right away. So we'll get an
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  Speaker 2: attendance report, a full attendance report when the guys get back.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a nice day out there. It looked
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  Speaker 2: like a normal practice. You know, started out with some
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  Speaker 2: unit drills, then it went to stretching, then they break
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  Speaker 2: out back into you know, the position drills. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if they got into seven and sevens. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: stay that long. We'll get that report a little later,
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  Speaker 2: but it was I would say, a productive day for
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  Speaker 2: the team. Good to be out there. Mike Rabel had
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  Speaker 2: a press conference prior to the practice where he talked about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's mostly a teaching practice this time of year,
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  Speaker 2: but there is some evaluation that goes on, not really
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  Speaker 2: like who's going to beat out who for a position,
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  Speaker 2: but more how is an individual doing? How have they
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  Speaker 2: taken to learning so far? Are they a repeat? Are
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  Speaker 2: they making mistakes more than once? Are they absorbing what
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  Speaker 2: they're telling us? So in that way, there is evaluation
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  Speaker 2: that's going on in addition.
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  Speaker 3: To the teaching.
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  Speaker 2: And as I say that the ultimate teacher comes in
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  Speaker 2: and sits down, it's Mike too.
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  Speaker 3: So the first off the field, Hello, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: I know I was just giving people a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of an update of what I saw, but I left early. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: pretty much right after stretching, So you can fill us
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  Speaker 2: in what happened after that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I feel compelled to probably just tell people that
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  Speaker 4: Drake May did throw four interceptions today, and that's probably
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  Speaker 4: going to be a headline for a lot of a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the reports you read. But hearing from the
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  Speaker 4: people after the practice, including Hunter, Henry said, this is
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  Speaker 4: our second day all together working on this second day
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  Speaker 4: in the Josh mctaniel's offense.
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  Speaker 3: So just to give everybody a little bit of.
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  Speaker 4: I had to focus on the positive, all right, Christians
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  Speaker 4: can Christian Dallas had two of them.
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  Speaker 3: As I consult my notes here.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't like, oh my god, terrible interceptions,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, a couple of them were really nice
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  Speaker 4: plays by by Gonzalez. It was a tough period where
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  Speaker 4: it was del Pettis, then Gonzalez got to and then
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  Speaker 4: Craig Woodson, the rookie, caught it deflected interception as well.
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  Speaker 4: So it was a rough little period there for Drake
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  Speaker 4: that I'm sure everybody's going to talk about and overreact to.
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  Speaker 3: But I'll just say this.
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  Speaker 4: Let me just well before we get back to that, though,
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  Speaker 4: I just say the thing that caught my eyes I
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  Speaker 4: was walking out here was Morgan Moses and Will Campbell
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  Speaker 4: a one on one session in the middle of the practice.
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  Speaker 3: I might need a moment. No, I might need a moment.
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  Speaker 4: You'll be happy to know that our videos, members of
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  Speaker 4: radio team, we're capturing this. But I mean it went
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  Speaker 4: on a good I would say five to ten minutes
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  Speaker 4: that Morgan Moses is just exactly taking young Will Campbell under.
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  Speaker 3: His wing, giving him some coaching points. So that as
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  Speaker 3: I walked up, I was excited about that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, everybody was kind of like, hey, look, it's
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  Speaker 4: like everybody could tell but no, So I thought there
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  Speaker 4: was a lot to take away from today, but those
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  Speaker 4: are going to be the headline. So I just feel
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  Speaker 4: like you got to get it out. People are going
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  Speaker 4: to be you know, they were asking Hunter Henry about
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  Speaker 4: the interceptions. They asked Christian Zalez about the interception. So
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  Speaker 4: it is it, like I said, it's day two for
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  Speaker 4: these guys in this offense.
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  Speaker 3: So so they.
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  Speaker 2: Actually did do like seven and seven or eleven on eleven.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they did.
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  Speaker 4: They did some eleven on eleven work and you know
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  Speaker 4: at the end there was more walk through speed and
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  Speaker 4: you could hear Rabel like, we're not trying to make
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  Speaker 4: plays on the ball like this is just walk through,
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  Speaker 4: which Paul turned to me and was like, I hope
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  Speaker 4: the media made note of that because it's a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of a different pace there at the very end.
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  Speaker 4: But I thought though after that session where Drake through
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  Speaker 4: those interceptions, he bounced back, he had some nice plays.
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  Speaker 4: I had one nice throw to Kyle Williams down the sideline.
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  Speaker 4: I think everyone wants to hear about the rookies. Kyle
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  Speaker 4: Williams was very involved today, as was Trevon Henderson. Both
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  Speaker 4: those two rookies getting a lot of run and will
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  Speaker 4: Campbell with Henderson catching balls, catching the ball look comfortable,
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  Speaker 4: looks smooth. I think, you know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: speak for Paul, who look he can't be here, but
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  Speaker 4: he said he did. He felt like Henderson looked really
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  Speaker 4: comfortable catching the ball, which you know, if you watched
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  Speaker 4: him play in college, but once he gets here in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL and you see him in then at Patriots,
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  Speaker 4: you know, helmet and practice uniform, it it's a little
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  Speaker 4: bit different. So I thought those guys stood out to me.
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  Speaker 3: That's great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then as far as coaching, obviously you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: Mike rabel I told our listeners that he had his
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  Speaker 2: pre practice press conference. Yeah, but some of the other
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  Speaker 2: new coaches, did you catch a glimpse of like their style? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I look obviously McDaniels, everybody probably want to know,
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  Speaker 2: like he was obviously very involved with Drake.
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  Speaker 4: It's just great to see the visor back out there,
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  Speaker 4: that the Drake may visor where he's He's sorry that
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  Speaker 4: Josh McDaniel's visor. I'm merging them together. But Scott Booker
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  Speaker 4: can used to stand out to me. And I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if that's simply a function of Terrell Williams not
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  Speaker 4: being here yet to coordinate the defense.
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  Speaker 3: I know, he said.
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  Speaker 4: Zach Kerr, the linebackers coach, has been taking a bigger role.
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  Speaker 4: He was very active in some of the defensive periods
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  Speaker 4: I watched. But Scott Booker's just hard to miss. He's
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  Speaker 4: very loud voice. He seems like he knows where he
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  Speaker 4: wants guys. He's always got a smile. He's just got
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  Speaker 4: a lot of really great energy. Everyone focuses on Vrabel's
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  Speaker 4: energy and him dropping, and that wasn't as much of
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  Speaker 4: that today, certainly helping various groups out, but wasn't as
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  Speaker 4: much in the drills at the end in that walkthrough period,
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  Speaker 4: hopped out at a safety spot.
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  Speaker 3: To give a look. But yeah, those are the Booker's
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  Speaker 3: a guy that stuck out to me for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And do we have a chance to have a first
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  Speaker 2: look at our new kicker?
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  Speaker 3: All right, rookie kick a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they did a short kicking period. The first one
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  Speaker 4: he kicked, it went through me and Paul. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this is we're getting to be more refined with our kicker.
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  Speaker 4: Like it was kind of going ten to four. It
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  Speaker 4: was a little bit of a side. But then as
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  Speaker 4: other ones look fine, I mean he hit all of them.
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  Speaker 4: That was a very short It wasn't a competitive period.
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  Speaker 4: They weren't trying to amp up like last year they
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  Speaker 4: did where you know, the team lines up around them
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  Speaker 4: and you know it was just kind of, hey, kick
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  Speaker 4: some field goals. So so he was fine. I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just sorry. I'm still gathering my thoughts here. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think Farmer was out there. Farmer one of
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  Speaker 4: the rookies, so he was one of the ones missing.
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  Speaker 4: But for the most part they had pretty much the
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  Speaker 4: whole group. I mean, Diggs wasn't there. Stevenson, which I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you talked about that yet, but I haven't.
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  Speaker 4: His father passed away in March, so Mike, we're able
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  Speaker 4: talked a little bit about that. He was here, he's left,
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  Speaker 4: so they've.
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  Speaker 3: Been in communication. He's dealing with ye with that at home.
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  Speaker 4: But really those were the only three, Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of guys limited though, but for the most part,
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  Speaker 4: the whole team is pretty much here other than Diggs,
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  Speaker 4: Stevenson and Farmer, So.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a good sign.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, from what I gathered, the vibe was
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  Speaker 2: really good, upbeat, energetic and breaking out of huddles, quick
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  Speaker 2: music playing. And you know, some fans might be interested
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  Speaker 2: to know. Were there any notable differences from last year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there weren't a lot of differences last year
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  Speaker 4: between what we had seen under Bill Belichick and you know,
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  Speaker 4: then this year, and I mean it's I find it interesting,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, it's just kind of changing up the
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  Speaker 4: dynamics of when you stretch and instead of being all right,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna stand on the sidelines and walk to the
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  Speaker 4: middle and back, we're now we're all gonna be down
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  Speaker 4: one end and walk from the end zone forward you know,
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  Speaker 4: so some subtle differences like that, but I think overall
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  Speaker 4: the general feeling of how practice goes where they get
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  Speaker 4: out there, they do a little walk through with some
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  Speaker 4: positional stuff. I guess now I'm saying it though, Fred,
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  Speaker 4: maybe that's the difference. It's in the past, it felt
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  Speaker 4: like we get out there, they do walk through that
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  Speaker 4: was like we couldn't tape it or anything because they'd
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  Speaker 4: be working on some kind of team piece of it,
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  Speaker 4: and to really yeah, maybe maybe truly, but now it
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  Speaker 4: seems like the early earlier drills, and again this could yeah,
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  Speaker 4: this could just be OTA's but more position group based.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little looser, guys are a little slower coming out.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's just OTA related.
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  Speaker 4: But but once you got into it, I'd say generally
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  Speaker 4: it kind of falls the same.
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  Speaker 3: You get into eleven on eleven, seven on seven towards
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  Speaker 3: the end.
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  Speaker 2: And when Paul and Evan comes, we'll get their take
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  Speaker 2: on it as well. While you're here, I also want
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  Speaker 2: to mention people probably know that on Friday we released
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  Speaker 2: the episode one of Forged in Foxborough. So so far
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  Speaker 2: it looks like you all like it. About over three
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  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy thousand views just on YouTube awesome, So
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  Speaker 2: you know, I want to get into that if people
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  Speaker 2: have comments about that, what they like, what they didn't like. Mike,
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  Speaker 2: I saw that you had an extended review with FITZI online.
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  Speaker 4: I went on with Fitzy this morning. He you know,
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  Speaker 4: wanted to talk a little bit about it. Of course,
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  Speaker 4: I think I have about a thirty and mall even
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  Speaker 4: twenty second cameo in it, which was really cool to
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  Speaker 4: be part of it.
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  Speaker 3: But I just for me, I've always I talk about
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  Speaker 3: it all the time on this show. I always bring up.
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  Speaker 4: The Football Life with Bill back in two thousand and nine,
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  Speaker 4: and for me, seeing behind the scenes of a coach
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  Speaker 4: speaking to the team and really how the coach wants
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  Speaker 4: to mold that team and putting his imprint on it.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that to me right from the get
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  Speaker 4: go with Rabel behind the scenes, hearing him talk to
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  Speaker 4: the team, and it just reinforces for me what we've
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  Speaker 4: seen out at these two practices we watched so far,
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  Speaker 4: that he's putting his stamp on this team, like this
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  Speaker 4: is his team. He knows what he wants, he knows
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  Speaker 4: what he's looking for, and you know, had an extended
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  Speaker 4: kind of not talking to but just broke the team
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  Speaker 4: down for a while at the end of practice, you know,
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  Speaker 4: given his message.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just you can tell.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's the same thing I noticed where
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what position it is, he's talking to
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  Speaker 4: the punt returners about.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you just see him going up to the
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  Speaker 3: random third string guy that just took.
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  Speaker 4: A rep and getting up there and and showing him
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  Speaker 4: the technique that he's looking for.
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  Speaker 3: So it's it's encouraging.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be fascinating this year because we've got
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  Speaker 2: a guy in Mike Rabel who, throughout his playing career,
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  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 3: Obvious that this guy was going to be a coach.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, everybody who interacted with him on the
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  Speaker 2: field saw how smart he was and how he absorbed everything,
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  Speaker 2: not just like his own position, but what the whole
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  Speaker 2: team was doing. And he was also absorbing as he
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  Speaker 2: went along, how coaches operate and how practices were operated.
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  Speaker 2: And you know during the week, how you know, Bill
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  Speaker 2: prepared the team for the opponent, and then not just here,
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  Speaker 2: but in all his stops, Ohio State and Houston Oilers, And.
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  Speaker 3: It's just so obvious.
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  Speaker 2: So now you know, he has his first stint in Tennessee,
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  Speaker 2: and I think the Patriots are going to have the
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  Speaker 2: benefit of a guy who now gets another chance at
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  Speaker 2: it and he's learned even more and you know, can
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  Speaker 2: learn not only the stuff that he did well, but
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  Speaker 2: from his mistakes in Tennessee. And we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: the beneficiary of that. So I'm really excited to see that.
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  Speaker 2: And when I see him out there, that's what I see.
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  Speaker 2: I see a guy that's ultra confident in what he's
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  Speaker 2: doing and knows what he wants to do, Like he knows, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is how I want to interact with Specialty. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, the first group that he with today
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  Speaker 2: with special Teams, you know you would think, oh, he's
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  Speaker 2: going to go right to the defense or Drake. No,
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  Speaker 2: he was Special Teams. And I think every part of
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  Speaker 2: this team. I think he has an idea already how
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  Speaker 2: he wants that unit to be and how his interaction
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  Speaker 2: and his you know, involvement in that group will be.
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  Speaker 2: It's I think he's got the whole season planned out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I swear to.
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  Speaker 4: God well, and that's and that's why I said to
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  Speaker 4: Paul Paul was getting ready to interview him for something.
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  Speaker 4: He's right, and I think it might be for the
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  Speaker 4: for the Game Day magazine. But that's what I My
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  Speaker 4: interesting question with for Rabes is just what did you learn? Like,
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  Speaker 4: what's different? How did you go into Tennessee? What did
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  Speaker 4: you change a little bit? We always knew he had
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  Speaker 4: the knowledge. I think what's been fun for me to
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  Speaker 4: watch is him develop his coaching style.
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  Speaker 3: It's one thing to.
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  Speaker 4: Like have the knowledge to be able to coach it,
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  Speaker 4: but you also have to teach, and we hear him
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  Speaker 4: talk about being a teacher so much so I think
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  Speaker 4: you really see the influence of his parents as educators
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  Speaker 4: on him getting guys up to speed and you know
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  Speaker 4: clearly the guy can hold a room and capture that attention.
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  Speaker 3: Evan has joined us. Evan, you are out there. Put
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  Speaker 3: him on the cut cut to we couldn't take my song?
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  Speaker 3: You got a song? I'm special. No, it feels good
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  Speaker 3: to be back right back in the saddle football out there.
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  Speaker 2: So what you know, come off the legend Due already
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  Speaker 2: gave the headlines that probably everyone will be which was
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  Speaker 2: Drake May's day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but aside from that, what would be your headline,
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  Speaker 3: I would say, you know, just looking at the two
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  Speaker 3: pairings on defense, Christian Barmore and Milton Williams on the
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  Speaker 3: defensive line, and then obviously Gonzo and Carlton Davis that corner,
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  Speaker 3: it felt like those two guys, those tandems were together
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  Speaker 3: all day long, working early on you know, and I
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  Speaker 3: think you can see the goal there, you know, see
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  Speaker 3: the the vision in terms of the roster on defense,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, we always get out of these practices
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  Speaker 3: and it's always you know, it was it a good
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  Speaker 3: day for the offense or a good day for the defense,
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  Speaker 3: or a bad day for the offense, or whatever the
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  Speaker 3: case may be. But Christian Gonzalez looked like the best
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  Speaker 3: player on the field, which I don't think is a
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  Speaker 3: big surprise, but it was certainly palpable in this practice.
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  Speaker 3: Just I thought his second interception that he had on
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: on Drake May was just an incredible play. I mean,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: you look at that play and you kind of just
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: have to tip your cap to the corner and be like,
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: that's that's mean he covered like forty yards, Like I
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: don't know what.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: You know, as you say that isn't this good for
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Drake May to have Carlton Davis and Christian Gonzales in
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: every one of his practices and to be going against
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: what could be one of the best pairs of corners
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: in the league every day, just the way Brady you know,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: benefited from having Tylaw out there, and you know.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so love it. I love it. We wanted to
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: throw in himself.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not so much that, but you know, he's
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: going to learn from practice where I would say, you know,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: there might be a lot of young quarterbacks who don't
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: have you know, that type of uh you know skill again,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: you know, working against them where they don't get to
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: learn in practice as much. So another thing to be
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: excited about if you're Patriots fans.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Sure, and both those guys Davis and gazalz hopping in.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Gonzalez last year is coming off an injury, he was
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: still getting his feet wet and understanding how to play.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's a lot of promising pieces on defense.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's plenty to digest. It's but it seems
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: like a lot of different personnel moving around, trying guys
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: out at certain spots. Thought the safety's got a lot
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: of a lot of long looks to the lower end
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: safety guys, you know, like the del Pettises of the world,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: the Craig Woodson's of the world.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Those guys getting a lot of runs. So it's it's fun.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's fun for me is defense guy, to
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: see it start to come together and you know, to
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: see splaying out there and the free agency behind the
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: guys that Evan mentioned with Barmore and Williams, and you
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: really see the core of this new defense.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: It's it's going to be different and I'm excited about Yeah,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: anything else. Evan, Well, I know that the headlines are
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: going to be about the four picks. Yeah, and I
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: know that's gonna a lot of people are gonna read
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: that and be like, oh, And I would just say
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: it's very early on, Like we're watching day two of
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: OTAs and we're watching an offense with Josh McDaniels that
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I kind of expected to be a slow burn. Like
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I think we all we talked about it that there
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: was a lot of mentally on the quarterback. There's a
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: lot of technical things. You know, there are instances today
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: where you know, he's hot, he's got you know, an
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: unblocked blitzer and he's got to make a quick decision,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: and you know, was that a protection thing that they
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: should have moved the protection to pick up the blitzers
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: he's supposed to just throw. And there's some hesitancies there
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: and you know, route details and like there's all these
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: little intricacies to offensive football, especially in this kind of
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: system that on May twentieth, like there's just gonna be
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: bumps in the road, and you just hope as we
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: go here that it just gets better and better and
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: better and those mistakes, you know, become fewer and fewer.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Nobody likes to see the quarterback throw picks like that's
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: that's not going to be positive no matter what. But
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised that as we see it here at
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: a very early stage of the off season, that this
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: McDaniel's offense isn't what it's going to look like come
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: September or October, November. It's it's a complicated system. It's
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: gonna take some time, of course.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Of course. All right, let's get to some calls. Is
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Paul cumming or is he you know, he had to
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: go to his thing. Oh that's right, Yeah, he's got
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: a thing.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I sat with him, though I got all
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: his thoughts. Okay, he's very excited, very excited.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's let's add in some listeners and
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: also remember, you know, I want to carve out some
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: time at some point for your reaction to Forge in
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Foxborough to see what people have to say about that.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: But you know, while practice is still fresh on our minds,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: let's get any questions that we might have. We'll start
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: with Patty and Agawam, what's up Patty's everyone?
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Hey, hey, a.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: Frid, I just want to go straight to four and Foxborough.
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: Okay, I watched the whole thing to the end, including
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: all the credits, and I've got to stay a big
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: bravo to you, my man.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: And I've said this almost every year that I've been
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: a listener and a caller and an emailer for the
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: last thirty years. You're the undisputed king of Patriots media.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Well I had to probably the least amount to do
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: with it than anyone, but I appreciate that.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: But anyone that doesn't know the name Fred Kirsch or
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: Patriots on Filter Sport, that does not come to Patriots
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: dot com, you're doing yourself a disservice as a Patriots
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: band Wow, that's all I gotta say.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: All right, what happened in practice?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Plater go Okay, thank you, Patty.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately he's talking to people who do know s so,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: but that's I appreciate.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: That was kind of a fun part for me though,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Like obviously the whole thing was great, but then to
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: get you get to the credits and it's like all
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: people that you know and are friends with and you
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: just see all your coworkers get in some shine. It
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: was cool.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I worry about that though. I don't like
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the you know, saying giving credit to ourselves like today,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I guess we were won a bunch of awards Teley
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Awards for various things that we did in twenty twenty four,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: including the Tom Brady Day, and it's great, but like
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I feel uncomfortable saying.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Well, look what we want.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Ye I know that's the way it is today and
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: you you know, you celebrate your accomplishments and all that,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: but I don't know, I was kind of schooled under
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: a different regime where you kind of give credit to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: others and yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, So I don't
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: know what's that, Matt, because we didn't nominate it for anything.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Podcast we probably should have. Yeah, is there like a
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: podcast thing that you can do? There's the Channel Market
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Media survey, right that they do every year where they say,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah yeah, the best Patriots podcast.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a survey.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: We we usually register in that one, don't we, even
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: though we're not we're not. Did people write us in? Yeah,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: we don't get really bad?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's how we.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: But Matt will we'll make note of that for next
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: year to you know, whatever the podcast award committees are.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: It was Rhode Island Monthly's Best Part. Okay, it all
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: right good.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: A lot of these awards it's like you just have
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: to submit it, I know, and you submit it and
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: you pay the fee, you might win.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: That's the other thing.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, all of them are money making.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: That was like, you know, I discovered when I was
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: a screenwriting contest. That's like, you know huge, It's just
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: that people can't screenwrite them. They have screenwriting contests like
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: pay me to read your scripts and here's the best.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Smart right right, Yeah, it's a money grab all right.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Dominique is in New York. What's up Dominique here?
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: How you doing good?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Good?
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: The first and foremost like congress on the documentary about
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: the phenomenal I really really enjoyed it, Evan, I know
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: a part but for me this is you know, our
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: hot arts, and I actually appreciate the hype that you
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: know it's given me for the season. I appreciate the
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: shots of Will Campbell just being you know, brought into Foxbug,
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: getting a little bit of understanding what you know, the
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: draft process was for the past this year. So you'all
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: did a phenomenal job. I'm really excited to see the
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: second episode and get to know the plays a little
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: bit more, you know, get some interviews. So so, great
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: job there, y'all for a real great job.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: So I have a quick question outside of that. I
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: know everyone we all know that May have these tools
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: to be the franchise quarterback. I think some people are
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: labeling that I'm a little bit of hesitant.
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: I feel like with.
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: These conversations I always try to point to at least
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: the string of plays or games where you realize he
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: is the one or he should be the one. Can
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: either of you, all three of you recall when you
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: realize whether it was a game a string of plays
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: that Drake May is the potential franchise quarter you know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: quarterback for the next ten to fifteen years. I'll take
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: it off one.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, thanks.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: So when was the moment last year where you realize
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: he is or could be the franchise court now for Paul,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: he he'd say I have it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I don't think he'd be totally wrong to say that,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: but I would say, just for me to hoot that
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Houston game when he threw the touchdown of Booty. I mean,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: it's we saw throws like that in training camp and
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: he just translated it to a game.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: But that's as close as I can get.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I can't really say, like, oh, this was the moment
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I knew for sure, Like him doing that in a
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: game to me just showed this kid can push the
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: ball down the field. He's not afraid, and he's gonna
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: throw everything he has into it out there. So but
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: we'll see this year, like I don't want to make
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: that jump in like I want it this year.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I want this year to be like I don't think
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: there was any one moment. I think it was.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: A compilation of a skill set that I saw, like
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: him being able to do different things at a high level.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: You know, he hasn't done the big thing, which is like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you know, lead a comeback and.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Right, and the end of the Tennessee game was like clos.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: You know, So there's still more to be seen.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Obviously number one is eliminating those mistakes. But I think
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: over the course of the games, I saw a skill
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: set that it said, Okay, this can be elite if
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: if now the head follows the skill sets there.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly how I would put it. Not to
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: play Paul, but like, I don't know if he's the
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: franchise quarterback yet. You know, he's got to go out
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: there and win games. But you see the flashes of
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: him being a franchise talent. You know, Let's see if
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: he can be more consistent even today, Like he makes
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: some great throws today, he also made some not so
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: great throws, So like, if you can, you got to
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: package the great ones and kind of put those in
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: a bottle and make those more consistent and then you
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: have a franchise quarterback. But the Rams game, I would
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: say was probably his best game from start to finish,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: where I started to be like, all right, you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: some of these throws, some of the reads he was
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: making and things like that are are really really high level.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was his best game last year.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: So if there was a moment that I said, Okay,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: this has we have legs here, you know, this could
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: have the makings of it, I would say probably against
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: the Rams, Yeah, I.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Mean some of the out of pocket stuff. Yeah, you know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: throws out of pocket on the run. You know, in
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: today's NFL, if you're not Tom Brady, to be elite,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: you need to be able to do that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: It's just so hard because he has all the talent
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: in the world necessary to do it, but so do
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: a lot of other guys that never put it together.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: So it's you know, there's got to be some magic within.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: And I was just I mean I was looking back
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: at my notes, you know, bouncing back after that four
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: interception one eighty five on a crosser Williams on the sideline.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I thought that was a pretty nice throw.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: And then a little little backshorlett, a little fade the
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: baker against Gonzalez. So he did make some nice throws today.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well Ononda Williams was probably his best throw. Just
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: it would look like, as Paul is to say, it
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: looked like an NFL play. At the timing and the
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: rhythm of it looked really good. The interceptions I think
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: are all just a little things where he's he's learning.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: You know, he's learning. All right, that's Christian Gonzalez over there,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Like I gotta make him respect that I could throw
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: the flat here, because otherwise he's just gonna fall off
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: the flat and fall underneath the deeper out and kind
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: of provide that help over the top because he's staring.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I'm staring at the receiver down the field, and I'm
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: not moving him with my eyes. Like those are things
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: that you hope that he just logs in the memory
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: bank and now the next time he sees that look
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: and the next time he tries to make that throw,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: he makes it a little bit differently and you don't
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: have Christian Gonzalez.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Well, it'll be interesting, I think as an exercise, maybe
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: we go back and look at his interceptions last year
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: and see what happened on these plays and then see
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: like if similar things happen in practice this year, Like
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: did he learn from that?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, like the one that today that
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: was tipped over the middle, like that was that one
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: was a lot of what last year was where tip
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: balls or like you know, guys going off receivers hands
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: and going to to defenders and like things like that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: And you know, you when you hit a receiver in
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: the hands, you want the receiver to catch the ball.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: But that doesn't always mean that it was a great throw.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: You know, it could have been a little bit behind him,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: it could have been a little bit too high. You know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: things like that that make a make differences when it's
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: so fast and it happened so quickly at this level.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: So I would say a lot of them were that,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: And if you can just kind of cut down on
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: those ones and you just live with sort of the
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: gunslinger ones, which I think are always going to be there.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: That's just his playing styles that he's always going to
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: have some gunslinger turnovers.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Phil's in Coventry. What's up, Phil?
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how are we doing today?
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: I got a couple of questions kind of off the
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: beating path about the referee cruise and but does the
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: NFL great them? And do we know which.
• 27:54
  Speaker 10: Cruise will be on what games at a time, like
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: not that we.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Got the schedule not that far.
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: And the other thing is do you guys have like
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: a favorite crew.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Well, they do grade them for sure, and in fact,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: you get your playoff assignment based on your regular season grade,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: so there is a reward for having good grades. The
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: problem is they get great as crew and as individuals.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: But then what did they stop it? Because what they
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: would do in the playoffs is they'd break up the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: crews and they just use the individuals and then team
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: them up with people they haven't been working with throughout
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the season.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think they should do that. Yeah, they would
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: form all star crews, Yeah, yeah, they do.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I think they should grade the crew and keep them
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: as a crew because you know, you work together all season,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: don't you want that? So but I think, you know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: they want to reward individuals and and so that's how
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: they do it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: But they do.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: In fact, I don't have a favorite crew, you know.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I would also say, you know, another big problem is
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: for the league is that there's so much money in TV,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: and so these really good officials are retiring from officiating
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: and getting hired by Fox or ESPN or whatever to
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: be rules experts. And they make a lot more money
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: probably doing that, and they don't have to They have
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: no pressure and get screamed at guy. Right, they have
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: none of the fallback or you know, being an official,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: but they do great crews. You know that. You do
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: hear a lot about this crew. You know, throws a
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: lot more flags in the average, or there's a lot
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: more holding calls when it's this referee group. And I
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: do think the teams talk about that kind of stuff.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: And during the week.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I know Belichick used to school his team because the
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: other question was, you know how far in advance do
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you know the creuse? You certainly know the week of
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: what crew you're going to have for the game. So
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: coaches do, like Belichick's, you know, school.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Up their team.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: You know this this crew is known for holding, like
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Evan said, or this crew lets you play and test
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: them until it proves it otherwise, you know, play that
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: way until it proves otherwise in the game. What was
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the crew this year? They would always have I think
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the Thursday night game or one of them, and they
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: had they were known for the most penalties, and every week,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: sure enough it was a flag fest.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I forget which crew it was. Yeah, it's just not hockey.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Lely is.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I know his son Sean, I don't think it was.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: He does, but it was another guy that, Oh I
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: don't have a favorite, Yeah, Craig Rollstad.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of random rep names. All of
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: the names that I can come up all the top
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: of my head are now all in TV. That's my
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Jean's territor and like all those guys. But yeah, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: can believe there you go. That sounds who's Terry McAuley,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: who's he's a rules expert? Now saying.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Dave's in Florida? What's up David?
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: Hey, guys are going? So I had I had two things.
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: The first thing, I just want to touch on Jalen
• 30:56
  Speaker 11: Polk a little bit. I'm not sure why people are
• 31:00
  Speaker 11: so like confident that he's gonna be a roster lock
• 31:03
  Speaker 11: this year because I personally feel like a chain Polk.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: Okay, because I personally feel like we anything that he
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: that Polk excels, that we have another guy on the
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: roster who does it better, and.
• 31:18
  Speaker 11: I feel like he's a little bit redundant. I guess
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: just because he's the second round pick. I don't feel
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: like that should earn him a roster spot, especially considering
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: a lot of the the graphs that you see are
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: are actually expanded just to show how bad he was
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: last year. I'm just not too confident.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had one more thing, excuse.
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: That this was just about Drake May. I was just wondering.
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: I know it's only the first oka or second oka,
• 31:46
  Speaker 11: but some of these things do matter. And at what
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: point do you get concerned or at what point do
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: you consider, well that that was just the first day. Yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: I'll take it off.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, thanks to get into Yeah, get into the training camp.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: I mean this is a teaching camp, I would say,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: So you got to give him a little bit of
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: room to grow.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: I understand his feelings on Polk. I would disagree a
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I do think that he offers a little bit more
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: than some of the other guys in terms of physicality,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: in terms of strong hands. But but I don't think
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: he's going to be gifted the roster spot. I think
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have to earn it. But I do think
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: that there's enough of a gap in his skill set
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: that he can contribute and can be a unique player
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: within this wide receiver room. I still really like him.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, he was kind of still limited.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: I think ye appeared on the I think at elbow.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Or is it shoulder surgery? Shoulder surgery this offseason, So
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: he's still a little bit limited. But I haven't given
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: up hope.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would say if it was the same
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: regime from last year, I'd say he'd be more of
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: a lock, right because but since it wasn't their pick
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: or very Rabel's pick, you.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Know, they don't know anything.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: They don't own them, they don't you know, they don't
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: you know. But he still is a second round pick,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and Elliott second yeah, and Elliott Wolf is still here. Yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: So I think he's going to get the benefit of
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: the doubt until he you know.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, we all watched him be really productive last
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: year in camp, and I know that didn't count for anything,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: and it was a slow burn once he you know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: didn't get his back of his feet down and then
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: for that touchdown, it seemed from that point things DeVault graveled.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: But I'm really excited to see him. What does it
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: look like in camp this year? Does he come out
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: and have another really productive camp. If that's the case,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: then I think that there's something there. You got to continue,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: But you're not wrong if he if he looks in
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: camp this year, like he looked in the regular season
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: last year, we didn't really know he was going.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: The route seemed choppy, just nothing was smooth.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then I go back to what Elliott Will said.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I think it was at the after of the season
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: where they were they hoped for a little bit more development,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and he was talking about the coaches and probably that
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: wide receiver rule. Sure, you know, so I think that
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: they're expecting guys like Pope will get better coaching this
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: year and at least better direction because that room was
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: a mess last year.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: He really was, But he's not a lock. Like, I
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: don't think anybody is putting him down as a lock
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: because he's what he did last year. He's going to
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: have to prove that he's worthy of making the roster.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think we're we're gifting away any roster spots
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: to anybody really, right, you know, the guys drafted this year,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously they're not cutting Christian Gonzales like you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: but like, I don't think that guys like Jalen Polk
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: or Javon Baker or even Kendrick Bourne are locks. I
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: mean i'd say that they have, you know, Polk and
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: bourn have good chances to make the team, but I
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: wouldn't say that their locks.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like last year when we went into
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: it and it was like Taekwon Thort. I mean it
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: was a similar felt like a similar logjam at wide
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: receiver and things have a way of working.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: They should do Ronaldo's in Fall River. Hey Ronaldo, Hey,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: how's go guys?
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Good?
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: But I just have to questions.
• 34:50
  Speaker 12: Do you think we should have drafted another quarterback like
• 34:53
  Speaker 12: in the seventh round to increase the quarterback room competition?
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: And you blame Drake me and say you're from last
• 35:00
  Speaker 12: season on your on Mayo for his supporting cast like
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: offensive line and wide receiver.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Okay, thanks. I don't know.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I I think they brought in Josh Dobbs and they've
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: got the other young guy.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know where you're looking for competition. Yeah,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I don't necessarily hate it, Like I would have been
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: fine with with spending a late round drop pick on
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: a guy Woldridge.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Seems fine out there.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: You gets some opportunity reps, but there's just not a
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: lot of competition, Like you just want Drake to learn
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: the offense.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: You also got to remember that everything's new.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: So rather than focusing on let's have competition, how about
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: let's focus on developing Drake May and and this offense.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Because McDaniels is here, he's it's it's all new, So
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: let's just get the guys here.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Let's get Drake May going.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not We'll worry about competition next year when the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: offense has been settled and we've got a year under
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: then we then we can light a fire on the
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Drake May if we need to do that.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: That's sort of how I feel about it. It's like,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: right now, like what's the point of the competition, right, Yeah,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: he's not. He's the third overall pick in his second season,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: so he's it's his job to lose. So if you
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: bringing a guy a competition, all that's doing is creating
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: friction in the locker room, like and in the quarterback
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: room specifically. So I think that's a big reason why
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Joe Milton's not here is because of all that. So
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: you look at.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Well and plus because the time they need to spend
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: with Drake this year, it'd be an unfair competition. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: you're not going to be given this guy equal snaps.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: You know, hopefully we never get to this point. But
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: right you're four, you're five, you know, if he's still
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: not fully getting it, like, that's when you start to
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: look at you know, should we draft a quarterback here
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: and maybe put somebody into this room that has some
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: upside that we think could be a starter down the line.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: But now, I mean, you're it's Drake May's show. You know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: it's up to him.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and if people are worried that
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: on this show, we're going to, like you know, in
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: week four say oh, you know, coddle Drake May and
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: not call like we see it. Don't worry about that.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, if he has a bad game, we're going
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: to say it. If if a pick is his fault,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: we'll say it. But if if a pick is because
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: of receivers rounding out his routes or you know or whatever.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: We'll say that too. So we'll try to be fair
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: from what we can tell, you know, but some of
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: it is obvious.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I mean it it's but this is the big thing
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: for him. This is it cutting down on turnovers. And
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: that's why, as much as we can say today didn't
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: mean anything. The one thing you need out of Drake
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: May this year to cut out of the turnovers. It's
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: not great to just have four. And you know that's
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: the talking point. Unfortunately, that's what we got to talk about.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, no, you never, like I said, you never
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: wanted the quarterback to throw four picks. Like, no matter
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: what practice is, whether it's August or it's it's May,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: you never want to go out there. And the one
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: practice we get to watch and he throws picks, you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: four out of ten reps, he's throwing picks Like you
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: don't want to see that.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, if Trevion Henderson was out here dropping the
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: ball or you know, that wouldn't be good either.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: You know, you just can't do that. Yeah, just the
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: way I saw, most of the interceptions were him thinking
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: through things a little bit too slow, right, and just
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: kind of trying to grasp this whole offense, in this
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: whole system. So that's why I'm not, by any means
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: panicked about it yet because it's day two, Like he
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: hasn't been in this offense for very long. But I
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: had some small sea concerns about it to begin with,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: before we even got here about Daniels and all this
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: so it's not that it means nothing. You know, it's notable. Yeah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I mean last year happened like you can't erase it.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: So I know that. You know, the term blank slate
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: gets used with a lot of people, including returning players,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: but what they did last year matters. So I would
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: be surprised if Mike Rabel and his staff haven't looked
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: at every piece of tape from the players that were
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: here last year and how they performed to see, Okay,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: what's going to carry over?
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Good and bad?
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: You know, what's the good stuff that we hope continues
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: and what's the bad stuff we want to eliminate. Yeah,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: get to know every one of these players from their
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: tape in the pros.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that'll be the position group coaches that should
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: know all their guys inside and out.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: And I mean last year, you know, Alex van Pelt
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: got roundly criticized for not knowing that Marcus Jones playing
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: on offense. I would hope that they will know who
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: has who's who's done what on this team. Yeah, you know,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: so all right, some reaction from Forge and Foxborough, some
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: emails coming in podcast at pages dot com. Tolerant Okac
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: loved the first episode, Mike Rabel has me ready to
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: run through a wall. But I was curious how much
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the budget went to the twelve K camera you used
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: for interviews. I didn't need to see everyone's individual pores
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and hair follows. I do notice that with four K
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: two good, like, even on my TV at home, you
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: can see everything. Man Like, makeup has become even more important.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Anthony and Seattle watched it on Friday and again on Saturday.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't plan to watch it twice, but man, it
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: was good. I was already excited when we hired Vrabel,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: but now I feel like I wasn't excited enough. Side note,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: our washing machine broke, so my wife and I went
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: shopping first Alliance store.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: I walked in and what did you see?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: You guessed it, speed queen. I burst out laughing immediately
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: and knew I had to tell you guys. I understand
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: now why people have been calling and emailing in to
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: tell you things like this, because PFW slash PU is
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: like a little community, and you'll be just going through
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: life and something from the show will come up and
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: you'll think, I got to tell the PU friends about this.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: That's the idea you get it, Anthony, I love it.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: That's why we do what we do. That's why we
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: do the newsletter, so we create this community.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: So did he buy the Speed Queen on Red Zone.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Chat in Atlanta? Bravo, The best Pats documentary since the
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: last three games, Glory. Can't wait for the next episode.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Thanks for creating it. Now a question, how many of
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: the eleven draft picks do you see being immediate impact players?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I say at least six, which is an outstanding draft
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. Campbell, Henderson, Williams, Swinson, Barrels Ashby.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Well, no offense. But if we're gonna give the kicker
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: and long snapper, I agree, they'll be contributors.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I would hope, so, but like, what if they're not,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: that's a waste.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: So like, yeah, but they only have one long snapper
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: on the roster currently, so Ashby's definitely gonna a right play.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: But I hear what he's saying. I think I look
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: those top three guys, and we saw Trevon Henderson. We
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: didn't get to see him at Rookie Minni Caamp. He
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: wasn't out there, so this was the first time and
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: you see just explosive, you know, compact build like I
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: wouldn't say he's he's not Derrick Henry, right, he's not
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: a massive player, but he's compact. Like you can see
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: like how he's uh, he's got a sturdy frame to him.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: He's got good, good speed and you can tell all that.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: So I was excited about what I saw from him
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: and Kyle Williams, like these are the types of camps
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: where those two guys should should shine. You know, this
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: is a speed camp, like this is all about passing
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: and space and you know guys that are fast and
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: have good quickness and all that kind of stuff. So
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: you see Kyle Williams flash, You see eft and Chisholm
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: flash just because he can get open right, he's quick
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: and agile. So I thought Travon Henderson looked the part.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I was excited about what I saw.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: You know, going back to forging Fox Sport, it's interesting
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: because one of Paul's guys yesterday was saying, you know,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: you know in the documentary you saw that they could
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: have got a lot of picks if they had chosen
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: to trade down when it was Henderson's pick. But you know,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: they they they you know, they chose to take him,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know about that. How many
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: years have we criticized them for not sticking to take
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the guy, and so finally they do that when they
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: had a decent, you know, trade on the table and
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: they picked Henderson.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: That's a hopefully that's a good thing. The more you
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: hear about Henderson and what people around the league thought
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: of Henderson, the more excited you get about him as
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: a player. I mean, this is a not only an
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: explosive player, you know, big play type of running back,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: but also a really complete running back coming out of college.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: You know, can catch passes, can pass protect, can run
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: like he can do it all. And a lot of
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: people thought that he was the second best running back
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: in the class behind Genty and really were extremely high
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: on him. So I'm with you, Fred, I'm glad that
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: they just stood there and took Henderson. I think, you know,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: they needed that kind of dynamic playmaking ability.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Christian Chris with a T I A N right, sin,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: echoing the love and appreciation Forge and Fox was receiving.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Really enjoyed at the draft room. We got our guy
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: stuff in particular was good. Look forward to more of
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff. It's been a long time since
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: they felt this level of excitement and anxious anticipation in
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: such a positive way as we headed into a new season.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I feel that just being out there, it's like a
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: little taste of them training can I think I think
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: they feel it too. I mean, we talked to Morgan
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Moses about that a little bit, and he's like, yeah,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: we We've actually had multiple times where Rabels had to
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: been like, by pull us back in because we're going
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: too hard for this time of year, because everybody's so
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: anxious and so excited about, you know, this team and
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: what they've put together. But the one thing from from
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Fortune Foxborough from the draft from that I thought was
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: really cool was I think it was Ryan Cowden who
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: said to Elliott or maybe it was Rabel, you know,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: well do we go running back and then receiver or
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: did we go receiver then running back? And I just
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: couldn't help but laugh because like, how many times did
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: we have those coms? It's like, you know, we're doing
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: our like mock drafts right and stuff like that, because
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: it's exactly the same. But like that's it's was really
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: cool to see. Okay, yeah, like that's that's how they're
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: thinking too, is like do we like you know, how
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: if we wait on the receiver, are we going to
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: get our guy or are we not? You know? And
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: it ended up being Kyle Williams and Henderson, which I
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: think is what they were kind of open for.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: So David Maine. When Mayo was fired at the end
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: of the season, initially I was relieved. However, my second
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: reaction was, damn no Hard Knocks this year. But Forge
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: and Foxboro was even better than Hard Knocks. Great work
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: by all involved. Two questions, how many episodes are you doing?
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: We're definitely going to do a second episode. It'll be
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: coming out. I don't want to give out when yet,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: but they'll definitely be at least another episode, and we
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: hope more. As long as Mike Rabel and staff allow
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: us access, we'll keep pumping out the content.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: So you know, hopefully we're doing it right.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Up to you.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully we're doing one.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: Behind the scenes of joint practices with the commanders here
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: and going to Minnesota. Yeah, you know, the little nuggets
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: there they've abel revealed, but that to me is the
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: best stuff behind the scenes of like this is all
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: teaching and slow paced in the off season, which I like.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: I think doing this job as I have now you
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: go from that on season mode in season mode too.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Then all right, and I get to.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Watch some prospects and next week we get to watch
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: an OT practice and it's a little slower. But once
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: the training camp starts and things start happening, injuries and competition,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: and you know, that's when it gets really serious. I
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: think those episodes, if we're able to to them.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Will be amazing.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Jeff and Canada really enjoyed it. He says, I'd like
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: to get it on record early that we have no
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: clue if Drake May is a franchise quarterback yet it's
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: still completely undetermined. However, the media team and most fans
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: have declared it, and I worry that is undue pressure.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I think that's unfair. I do. I don't think a
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: lot of people, maybe fans, but fans are allowed to
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: be excited, and that's that's what fandom's all about. You're
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: defending your guy or excited about your guy. I don't
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: feel like on this show we've we've crowned him yet
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: as the franchise quarterback.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think so either, But remember he was the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: third overall pick.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like he'd better be yeah right, it's gonna be
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: disappointing if he's Yeah, I mean yes, is that pressure.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: It absolutely is, and it's pressure that he's gonna have
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: to bear. But we're all counting on him to be
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: the franchise quarterback. This isn't a fifth round pick that
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: we're hoping. You know, this was the third overall pick
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: and many people thought he was you know, coming out,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: was as good as Jaden Daniels.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: So I mean, well, I mean even look at like
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: I just for me, I want to see it happen
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: and not like stuff it into a box and make
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: like a moment from last season that wasn't all that
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: great as like, well, that's when I knew, like, you
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: don't you want to let Drake earn that moment and
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Paul let's see abou Paul is in there as he
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: could talk about bloods soe. But I'm just remembering, you know,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: him going toe to toe with the Vikings at the
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: end of his second season, opening against Miami in his
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: third season where you know, they didn't even make the
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: playoffs at you know, so there was like a there
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: was It wasn't just he made that big game and
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: now he's there and now he's awesome and that you know,
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's a bumpy roll.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's going to put the most pressure
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: on Drake May this year. It's Jade and Daniels. It's
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: what he did coming out his first year to absolutely
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: flip the Commander's season from one to another, from being
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: where we were to then playoff teams. You know, that's
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: how people, well the Commanders did it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of people look at the Patriots
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: off season this season and compare it to similar things
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: that the Commanders did last year.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're also going to get Jaden Daniels.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Right here in the building in the second week of August,
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: so you know that'll that'll spur some talk as well.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: But the blood Cell, like bringing up bloodste I think
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: is good because you fan that are that are on
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: the younger side of things, Like we know Tom Brady
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: and no one's ever going to be Tom Brady again, right,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: like we all can know expectations easily say that, and
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: just no one's gonna be as good as him ever,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: And so like the one quarterback that you know, I
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: really know as like the starting quarterback of the Patriots
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: is Brady. But the more realistic path for Drake May,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: in terms of ceiling and stuff like that, is probably
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: more closer to Blood sell right, who was a good
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: quarterback but wasn't the greatest quarterback of all time. And
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: I think that somewhere in those expectations we have to
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: find a middle ground. Like Drake May could be a
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: really good quarterback for you know, five to ten years,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: like Drew Bledsoe was, but that doesn't make him, you
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: know that he's not gonna be Tom Brady, right, So
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: that's what I'm hoping for. Can he you know, franchise
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks thrown around a lot? Like, I just want him
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: to be the starting quarterback for the Patriots for a
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: long time and have us not question who the quarterback is.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Does that mean he's a franchise quarterback or an elite quarterback?
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think there's a lot of
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: guys that are like that. Like I would say, you know,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert is a franchise quarterback. The Chargers haven't won
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: anything yet, r right, Yeah, you know, like Trevor Lawrence,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Fred's guy I think is a really good quarterback. They
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: haven't won anything, right, you know, So that that's how
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: the career goes for a lot of dudes that can
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: play that are really good. You know, Josh Allen's a
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: really good he still hasn't won anything, so like it
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: might not be Yeah, I mean, it's just all that.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: But I think I think after I don't know how
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: many how many years has Alan been in the leaf
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: six years now, yeah, so I think after six years,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: if we have done what the Bills have done, we'd
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: be like, Okay, we did get our guy.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we just have to know we got to get
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: over the hump, right, the right, But that's the but
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: that's like the ceiling. Like that's like the that's it
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: working out as much as it possibly could. Like Josh
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Allen's the MVP of the league, right, so like that
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: that's that's the ceiling. And he still hasn't won a
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: super Bowl. So like you know, Lamar Jackson still hasn't
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl. So I just think that there's
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: you know, we have to also adjust our expectations of
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: what Drake may being the franchise quarterback really is going
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: to look like I you know, I hear what you're saying.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: I love. I love having some community the quarterback be great.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: I'd also listen some community with the scheme.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: Now here we are in whatever year whatever, since Josh left,
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: and it's I'm just I'm getting I'm getting tired of
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: blaming it on the scheme.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: He's learning the scheme.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: How's the scheme different? All the questions are about the
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: scheme the scheme. Like today I was ready to just
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: ask and be like, look, you've been in the NFL
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: a long time, played here a bunch of difference.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Does it matter? Does it really matter?
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Like I know it's hard, you got to learn it
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: and all that, but like we put the whole world
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: on like the scheme change, and I just I wonder
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: in their heart of heart, like I mean, I played
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: hockey completely different, but just you know, like we played Zonerman,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: it didn't really matter, you know. So I know those
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: sports aren't different, and those are completely Probably not a
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: great metaphor to make, but still it's like, as a player,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: you're like, you guys spend so much time talking about this,
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, we have to learn it.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: But no, I know it sounds simple, but if you've
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: got a good offensive line, the scheme becomes easy, right, you.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Can execute it.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Because you can execute it, you know, if you can't
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: execute the scheme, it doesn't matter what the scheme is.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I'm just worried about the pressure on the quarterback in
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: this particular offense, and at what point do maybe they
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: take a little bit off of his plate and maybe
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: they put it, you know, on Bradberry or you know,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: a veteran center in the league that started a lot
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: of games or something like that. Because again, it's one day,
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: but this is what I was a little bit concerned
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: about that it would look like early on that there
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: would be what looked like, you know, Pop Douglas said
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: after practice. The first one of the first picks he
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: threw to Gonzalez, the first one, you know, is a
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: they rotated the coverage. They rolled the coverage, and so
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Gonzales started deep and then he rotated into the flat
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: and you know, Drake didn't see him coming down in
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: the flat and Gonzalez jumped the route. Like those types
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: of things to me is just like mental like you're
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: looking through every there's ya. I gotta set the mic
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: point and I got to move the protection, and now
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: I got to make sure this guy's in the right
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: place and then it's all of the maestro stuff at
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. And I don't know if that's him, Like,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know yet if Drake May is that kind
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: of quarterback, Like he might be more of like, let's
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: just snap the ball and I'm just gonna play right
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: because he's got he's so physically talented that that might
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: be more of what he's how he's programmed and how
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: he's you know, wired, is just to just go out
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: there and play ball, whereas this scheme can be very
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: very intricate, and if I had anything to be like,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: come away from this practice, it's not that he's through
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: four picks or anything like that. It's like, how are
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: we going to evolve from that the McDaniel's Brady offense
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: to now it's with Drake May and it's a different
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: kind of quarterback, Like he's a different type of player
• 53:12
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• 53:14
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  Speaker 3: I'm just curious about your early impressions of rate May
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: and how he's been adapting to, you know, learning inuitial Well.
• 56:01
  Speaker 10: I think everybody's worked extremely hard, including Drake, uh, to
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: to pick up what we want to do offensively and defensively,
• 56:08
  Speaker 10: and now that has to start to translate onto the
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: practice field in a spring setting without pads, and you know,
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: I think that it's Uh, we're off to a good start.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I think we had a positive day.
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: We're able to mix some speed stuff in and some
• 56:21
  Speaker 10: competitive stuff to a point, Uh, kept guys off the ground,
• 56:25
  Speaker 10: got a bunch of looks and bunch of reps. So
• 56:28
  Speaker 10: I think we're off to a good start, and you know,
• 56:30
  Speaker 10: Drake's a part.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Of that as part of the stage.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Mike, what are the things that you look for from
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: your players to get better as they go about this
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: stage of the process.
• 56:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that that's probably an interesting question just
• 56:41
  Speaker 10: to dynamic through the spring. Is you know the offensive line.
• 56:45
  Speaker 10: I think you can maybe evaluate some pass protection or
• 56:49
  Speaker 10: somewhat footwork, but it's hard to evaluate the run game.
• 56:52
  Speaker 10: Defensive line, it's a difficult time of year for them.
• 56:56
  Speaker 10: You know, they're they're they're wired a certain way and
• 56:58
  Speaker 10: they want to do things that affect a quarterback and
• 57:01
  Speaker 10: create a new line of scrimmage and.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: You have to pull them back to a sense.
• 57:05
  Speaker 10: This is a this is a passing camp, this is
• 57:06
  Speaker 10: a non contact camp and time of year. But I
• 57:10
  Speaker 10: think the receivers and the dbs can certainly look to
• 57:13
  Speaker 10: to mirror and shadow and react and you know, still
• 57:17
  Speaker 10: go make plays on the football and try to stay up.
• 57:19
  Speaker 10: It's hard to you know, maybe the running backs you
• 57:21
  Speaker 10: can evaluate are they picking up the right person and
• 57:23
  Speaker 10: protection not necessarily sure if they're going to be able.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: To block them, but are they getting the right guy? Uh?
• 57:29
  Speaker 10: Quarterbacks, operation, the urgency in which we practice are things
• 57:33
  Speaker 10: that are important. Our tempo, the way that we finish plays,
• 57:38
  Speaker 10: our effort, and you continue to build the identity. Are
• 57:41
  Speaker 10: we taking care of the football when we're when we're
• 57:42
  Speaker 10: running with it in the open field?
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Things like that.
• 57:45
  Speaker 10: When you mentioned not wanting to take guys to the ground,
• 57:48
  Speaker 10: how do you balance It's not that I would love
• 57:50
  Speaker 10: to take guys.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Uh, That's okay.
• 57:54
  Speaker 10: I'm joking, but these are the rules that everybody's just
• 57:58
  Speaker 10: come to live by in the National Football League, and
• 58:00
  Speaker 10: that's that's great. It's just explain it to the players
• 58:04
  Speaker 10: what it is that we have to do and what
• 58:05
  Speaker 10: we have to try to get accomplished.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: So go ahead and finish your question.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: But how do you accomplish the physicality that you want
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: at this stage?
• 58:10
  Speaker 10: I'll still making sure that I don't think that you can.
• 58:13
  Speaker 10: I don't I think that you could focus on pad level.
• 58:16
  Speaker 10: You can focus on hand placement, but that physicality is
• 58:20
  Speaker 10: not something that's going to be identified over the course
• 58:22
  Speaker 10: of the next four weeks.
• 58:25
  Speaker 15: With the understanding that this is obviously a non contact camping,
• 58:28
  Speaker 15: we're talking about not being able to get a good
• 58:29
  Speaker 15: sense of where maybe running backs are from a physical standpoint,
• 58:32
  Speaker 15: and you just talked about where maybe Rmandri is at
• 58:34
  Speaker 15: this stage. I know he's going through a personal thing,
• 58:36
  Speaker 15: but maybe the overall value that he has did this franchise.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: We're extremely excited to.
• 58:42
  Speaker 10: Have him with us, have been in constant communication with
• 58:48
  Speaker 10: him and obviously our thoughts and prayers or with him
• 58:51
  Speaker 10: and his family as they heal and they grieve, and
• 58:54
  Speaker 10: you don't want to be a part of that to
• 58:56
  Speaker 10: help him and get to know him. And I'd met
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: him early on and then he went back and now
• 59:00
  Speaker 10: those conversations have just been over the telephone. So when
• 59:06
  Speaker 10: you start to evaluate just this season and you watch
• 59:09
  Speaker 10: the effort and that he played with when he didn't
• 59:11
  Speaker 10: have the football, he played extremely fast.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Without the football.
• 59:15
  Speaker 10: His ability to step up and protect is taking care
• 59:18
  Speaker 10: of a teammate, is protecting the guy with the ball.
• 59:21
  Speaker 10: He did that on numerous occasions. He always saw him
• 59:23
  Speaker 10: downfield when he didn't.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Have the ball. You know.
• 59:26
  Speaker 10: So he's going to be a large part of, you know,
• 59:28
  Speaker 10: what we do, and it'll just have to you know,
• 59:31
  Speaker 10: determine where he's at when when he's back here.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: What constitutes a good day for you at OTA is
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: like what would make you happy at the end of
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: them today.
• 59:42
  Speaker 10: You know, again, I'm going to set myself up from
• 59:45
  Speaker 10: failure because you're going to look and read off every single.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: One I say here, that that we're in and.
• 59:49
  Speaker 10: Out of the huddle, that there's clean substitution, that there's communication.
• 59:52
  Speaker 10: You hear the defense making checks when somebody on the
• 59:55
  Speaker 10: offense moves or motions. There there's coordination and that the
• 59:58
  Speaker 10: offense is moving with urgency and at the play clock
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 10: isn't sitting at zero for four seconds, and all the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 10: operational things, and then obviously there's got to be a
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 10: level of execution when we're in the speed and then
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: when we get to the jog through, can we practice
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: at a tempo that's less than one hundred percent and
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 10: still get something out of it? Mike, what does the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 10: competition truly start from traditional standpoint for guys trying to respots.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that it already has. I hope that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: it already has their life's of competition.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 10: Everything we do every day, what we're trying to improve,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 10: and we're trying to do better than the next person.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 10: But whether that's a competitiveness to know what to do,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 10: to be able to play more than one position, to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 10: go extra reps when somebody's down, to take advantage of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 10: opportunities of young guys, you know, popping in their third group.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 10: You know, they do a nice job, then they get elevated,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 10: they get some reps with the twos and see how
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 10: they do with those opportunities. So I think that there's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 10: always a level of competition to what we do. It
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 10: just may not be as physical as what it would
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 10: be in training camp.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 15: Like related to that question, how much evaluation is going
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 15: on for the coaching staff right now versus the installation
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 15: of the teaching that obviously you're doing the spring.
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  Speaker 10: Well, there's certain things you have to maybe change the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 10: way that you evaluate. You know, do they know their assignment,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 10: can they adjust? Do they make you know, the same
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 10: mistake over and over? Then there's a level of you know,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 10: physical ability that we have to be able to evaluate.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 10: So I would say that there's still an evaluation even
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 10: though we don't have pads on.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: There's been a lot of talk about the culture you're
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: building and.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 14: All that just from early days of the team kind
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 14: of all being together. What are you noticing just from
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 14: them all coming together.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: I think there's an excitement, there's an energy. I think
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 10: there's a willingness of players that walk in and want
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: to improve and want to get to know the new
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 10: players and the ones that they're familiar with from last
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: year and the coaches and everything else. So we're just
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 10: constantly trying to build that each and every day.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 7: And we know that.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 14: Stefan Diggs has been you know, dealing with last year's
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 14: in anyone else that we shouldn't expect to see based
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 14: on coming.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Back and sending from last year.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: There'll be a group of guys that will be modified
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 10: today or won't be doing stuff. So, I mean, it's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 10: a long list. I'm not going to go through it,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: but there'll be a few guys. They'll be doing some
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 10: individual they'll be doing some return to play, may do
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 10: some jog through stuff at the end.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 16: Like I know that, Like, how would you describe the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 16: jump for running back and pass protection from the college
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 16: game to the NFL helpport? And are these practices for
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 16: Trayveon in particular as young beck, But.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: These are mental reps.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 10: These are seeing things that speed until you know it's
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 10: full speed to contact is really what we say. So
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 10: we want the blitzer to go, you know, as fast
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: as he would and disguise the way he would and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 10: try to time it up the way that he would,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 10: and then once he gets to the player that's blocking him,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 10: that that we're going to ask them to stop and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 10: then you know, be ready to go and sprint out
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 10: of the stack and get his you know, finish his
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 10: play that way. So they're they're good because there's just
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 10: there's moving parts, there's other bodies.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: It's not just a walk through pace.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 10: So I think the tempo is going to allow them
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 10: to identify the right person to protect and to block,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 10: and then we'll see you in training camp. Physically they'll
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 10: be able to do it, which by all counts, I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 10: think that they will.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: Mike, I know fans get excited about it when the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: NFL schedule comes out.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: How do you look at that from as a head coach?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 10: I just make sure that we've got seventeen games, nine
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 10: of them are at home this year and eight of
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 10: them are on the road, and then we go from there.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 10: We're so far from looking at opponents right now at
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 10: this point in the game. We're just really trying to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 10: focus on ourselves, which you know, individual improvement, continue to
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 10: build the identity that we try to talk about, and
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 10: that's where my focus is today.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Finalized the joy practices with the Commanders and Bikings, yep.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 10: I think that the for sure that the Washington Commanders
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 10: will come here and then they'll play us, and then
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 10: we are excited to go to Minnesota. It's a good
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 10: setup that they have allows for great work. Kevin's got
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 10: a you know, the Vikings have an excellent football team
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 10: and have worked with them before, so excited to go
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 10: back up there. Do you see the young player need
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 10: to see the field consistently or first team grabs consistently
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 10: to become the effective leader in your love, I think
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 10: that any player that comes here with a great attitude,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: that knows what to do UH and plays a style
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 10: and with the demeanor that we expect, that does things
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 10: the right way, that makes great decisions, what we'll have
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 10: an ability to lead uh someone or have some sort
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 10: of UH leadership qualities, whether that's with the third group,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 10: with the.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Second group, or with the first group.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 10: But I don't think that a young player has to
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 10: be on a starting unit to be considered somewhat of
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: a leaders.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: At times then over analyzed lineups at this point the season,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: that's fair philosophy.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: When it comes to the depth chart, is it better
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: ins and then young.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 10: Guys earn it or it's just kind of what we
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 10: put together and somebody's got to go with eleven.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: It's to be very fluid.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 10: You'll see that a lot of people are getting a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 10: lot of different reps and a lot of different groupings,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 10: and wide receivers will rotate out of there, and some
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 10: lineman will play a position and then we'll see if
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 10: they can move over and play another position.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: So again, you have a job to do. We have
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: a job to do.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: We're going to try to move guys around and put
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: eleven out there every play.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 15: No one will even told us a story about how
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 15: do you enjoy getting called out by you?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: That's first of all, that's not being called out by me.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: That was just an encouragement. No, it was, uh, you know,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 10: if you have the ability to do something, I think
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 10: you should try to maximize that ability. And I think
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 10: it sends a great message to the team where we're
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 10: going to need our best players to play good every
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 10: week for us to win. And that's just another example of,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: you know, the leadership and when one guy I found
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 10: when one guy runs fast and another guys tend to
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 10: run fast, and then the next you know, the more
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 10: and more you you see, you got a bunch of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 10: guys trying to push each other and compete.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: That's what we're trying to do with specifically, what are
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: you looking forcus, it's a very full room at the moment.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: What are you looking for specifically with them?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: In these early days well as far.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 10: I think that when you say things like it's a
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 10: full room, I would say that thirty one other teams,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 10: that's okay with thirty one other teams are going to
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 10: have eleven or twelve wide receivers at this point in time,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 10: So everybody's room is full.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: There's eleven or twelve.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 10: I would say that the players that aren't available need
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 10: to make sure that they're doing everything they can to
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 10: stay up mentally and continue.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: To work hard to get back.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 10: The young players that are coming onto this roster have
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: to earn a role, and the ones that are returning
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 10: have a clean slate to go and compete, and whether
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 10: that's a carryover position from last.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Year or a new position.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 10: So we're very early on in the process, but we
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 10: need that group to compete and have a willingness to
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 10: go out there and help the quarterback through this spring process.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Thank you, and now great moments in.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: History.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 17: I miss Gardis smell. That's one of the things that's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 17: about twenty twelve. Way, Yeah, GARTI smells really good. Paul,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 17: back me up on this.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: What are you a dog? He smells wonderful. There's around
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: sniffing people.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 17: Thank you, Paul.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Sound like a fresh summer day tomorrow show opening unfolding
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: right before our eyes.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 17: He smells great. I miss it.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, it is what it is. You know what was
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: his cologne of choice? You know you ever have?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: He smells so good.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: He's it's like product.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 17: He's just like if I told you, I'd have to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 17: kill you because everyone knows how good he smells. I
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 17: don't miss Gardi as much as I missed the smell of.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: Oh did Yeah? We could bottle that g That's another
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: great moment from.
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• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Dan and Virginia and Michigan emails. He says, I'm not
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: too worried about May having some issues on the second
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: day of OTAs. Didn't the defense always have an edge
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: early in the off season even when Brady was here?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Also speaking of Mike Giardi, just according to Dan, he's
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: apparently running a school for sports journalism.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Do you know this Trump's school?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Chris Catillo does it. The Red Sox be writer, he
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: does one so is it online thing that you signed
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: up a seminar. It's like a webinar and it's it's
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: pretty cool. I mean I didn't have to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay here, but do you know if his course includes
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  Speaker 2: the correct pronunciation of a slip disc and how to
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: be the best smelling man in England sports journalism, at
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: least according to Megan O'Brien, which we just heard.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Brian had some takes. I can't play that.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: But so he's running a school for journalists.
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  Speaker 3: That's a Paul didn't signed me up for it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so is it actually accredited? Do you get No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Isn't like an Adobe class now, I
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe it's part of just the University of
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Gardi he's starting in college. But yeah, I think Chris
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: does one, like I said, And I know that people
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: he sometimes has guests like speakers, you know that are
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: people that are currently working on beats and stuff like that.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: And I think people get a lot out of it.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna have to make fun of him.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: And I see him Jardi University.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: Guy to make some money.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe they can have graduation on the field here like
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Bridgewater State, right, you.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Know right, Bill wasn't here last week for that was he.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: No, But I was wondering if she was the commencement speaker,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: but I guess not. Josh wrights In. Overall, the production
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: of Forge and Foxborough was awesome, really loved it. That said,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: the draft room scenes weren't quite what I expected. It
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: came across like the entire operation flowed strictly through Rabel,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Wolf and Cowden. I was surprised at how little process
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: or structure was shown behind the decisions. I figured to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: be more automation or a system driven strategy involved, rather
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: than Elliott just going bee boop. I like this trade offer.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: I uh, well, I think that they are kind of
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: the guys making the decision. I understand the stuff he wants,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: of breaking down the prospects and that kind of stuff.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: But that to me was one of the interesting takeaways
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: that I thought maybe they'd talk on Paul shows about.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: It's just the dynamic between Cowden and Wolf and Vrabel
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: and you see how they discuss certain ideas and picks,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: and you know, you just you see how that relationship
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: between those three guys is developing.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: That was a really interesting part of it to me also,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: that were like forty people in the room with laptops,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: but none seemed actively involved. Cam Williams's only moment was basically,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: oh this is an EP here's elliott. I think there
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: was room to show more of the decision making process
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: without revealing too much of how the sausage gets made,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: just enough to give fans a sense of the complexity
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, fair enough what he's saying, But all
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: that work has done before draft day. I mean, you know,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: like they say, the Hayes in the barn once the
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: draft comes. And one thing you didn't see is the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: boards around the room, because that's where some of the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: detail is, where that you know, your board is stacked
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: and you can see, okay, who's left, how of those
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: people that are left?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: Who are the guys that you like? You know?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, we didn't get to see all of that
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: and the stuff leading up to the draft, where you know,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: scouts are really you know, making the case for their guys,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: which I'm sure must happen.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I thought, I thought maybe a little
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: constructive criticism for the now Denver Broncos came Winnams, But
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: I thought like his phone cadence was off, like these
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: draft picks are dying to get the bat phone to
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: ring right, Like they all have the special phone and
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: they'd be like hello, and he'd be like hello, yeah, Hey,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: how are you, Kyle?
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: How are you? The guys are dying to know what
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: team's calling. I'm like, He's like, it's came Wins from
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: the Patriots.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 17: Like there you go.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: You gotta get right to it. You gotta be like,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: cam it's the Patriots, we're taking you. Here's Ellie Wolf.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: I get right well.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: Elliott's first words to Will Campbell's what'd you have for dinner?
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: I like, the kid is like about to combust. They're stress.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Was crying on stage, how are you? What's going on? Nothing? No,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: we're just never drafted. You, by the way, ready to go?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: Are you ready to go? Did you mention from today?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: The Will Campbell and Morgan Moses, those two are and always.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Just was just watching that when he told me that,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: I said, I need a moment I need.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Morgan Moses was holding court after practice with it started
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: just with him and Will Campbell and Will Campbell's like
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: you people came over. Yeah. Will Campbell's like in his
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: past set, Morgan Moses is acting like the pass rusher,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: and Campbell's like, you know, talking true things. And then
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Kate and Wallace came over and kan Wallace just standing
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: there watching Morgan Moses listening, and then Marcus Marcus Bryant
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: their seventh round pick at tackle, he starts to come
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: on and then all of them are kind of like
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: their tackles, you know, like he's throwing.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: He's feeding the mass with you know, two loaves of
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: bread and a fish.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: He's got this party in the red seat right, He's
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: like throwing his long arm and he's trying to teach
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: him and he's doing this and Trey Jacobs was over
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: there for a minute, and but him and Will Campbell
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: were out there for a solid ten to fifteen minutes
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: after practice, gone through a drill, you know, going through
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: the motions of you know, past protection and things like that.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: But we talked to Morian Moses about it afterwards and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: he's like, I know my role, like I you know
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: that that's a big part of why you know, I'm
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: still in the league and why I'm here.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: He's already paid for himself that that one session.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I totally believe it we happened. Did we
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: happen to have any cameras?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: You know, I saw Cassidy she wasn't getting in.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: There, but she you think we had sound Maybe I
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: don't know. We got to get that out of sound we.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: Saw we had. Adler was taking pictures of it. I
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: know that I didn't. I'm sure we have.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Video of Cassidy shooting it, but I.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, baby, all right. Well, I was so impressed with
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: Morgan when he came in here and said, oh, yeah,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: well that's what that's why I am and you I know,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: and then you know the potential.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: He is what needs to be said and has so
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: much experience and every word that that guy says.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: I just I was hanging yeah right, tell me more
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: and more than yeah be my dad. And he talked
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: about you know, he played with Trent Williams, he played
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: with Tyron Smith last year with the Jets. So he's like, look,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: I've seen left tackles like I've seen it at the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: highest levels.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: It is like your like to your excitement, like we've
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: been so desperate for tackles, and then to see like
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: an experienced NFL tackle gathering around the kids and be like,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: here's how it's done, children.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't. It's not Yoda because he's so big.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: So it's like it's like it's that type of wisdom,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: that that sage wisdom.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: Sandolph may do or do not, trim beard.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: There is no try Yeah, uh, teas in Virginia.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: What's up, tea?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 11: And I've got some real quick and then pick it off.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure if you touched on it yet, but what's.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 8: Your thoughts on we supposed to change the playoffs four minutes.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: And do you think.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: I like it? Let's let's go. You know there's no receding.
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  Speaker 3: Is that correct? How how would it go? I didn't. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they received they would they would receive the second round,
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  Speaker 3: I believe, but it wouldn't be the top four divisions.
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  Speaker 3: So you still make the playoffs by winning your division,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: but it would be seated by the records by Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think that. I think that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: So there's no guarantee of a home playoff win if
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: you win your division.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's it's you want the best
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: teams to have the advantage, teams that earn in not
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  Speaker 4: just because oh you happen to be in the AFC
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  Speaker 4: South and you want this year and you were you know,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: seven and ten or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, obviously the Lions in Minnesota last year. The
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  Speaker 3: reason why this is happening, and I get it, I
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: mean I the one thing I would say is like,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: it's still kind of cool that division football matters in
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: the NFL because all the other leagues, I mean, I
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: guess hockey it kind of matters again now like with
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: the the different like subconferences that they have. But like,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: I don't want it to become basketball where like there's
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: no divisions, right Like I like it. So you like
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: the rivalry. I like the rivalries. I like that you
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: you know, you play everybody twice a year. I think
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: that is still good and has like value. And if
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: you're going to make the schedule more importantly, like if
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: the schedule is going to be structured this way, then
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: winning the division has to mean something like you can't
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: play everybody within your division twice a year, and then
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: it you're throwing out anything with the division, right Like,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: if you're going to structure the schedule, otherwise you have
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: to go to like a rolling schedule where you pay everybody,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: you know equal y or you rotate a lot of travel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they you know, I guess that was brought
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: up the last owners being they tabled it. They're going
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: to hopefully vote on it this this one. They're also
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: going to vote on eliminating assisting another players pushes.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: The push up. It's going back the rule proposal would
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: go back to the way the rule was previously written
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: up until like two thousand and five. I think where
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: you can't you can't assist another player, can't push or
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: pull another player.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And then there was one other There's a lot
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: of things, but there was one other one that was,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: uh three things that were kind of notable.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: The other big one was the Olympics.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, allowing these guys to play in flat football in
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: the Olympic in twenty eight Can you indulge me for
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: a second? Sure, So I I understand the whole push
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: for flat football with the league. You know, it's a
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: good way to get kids that don't necessarily want to
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: play tackle get involved in in a game that involves
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: a football. But it is a false It's it's inaccurate
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: to say that by playing flag football you're learning football.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: It's it's not football. It's a totally different game. Like
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: I said, the fact that you have a line of
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: scrimmage and a football, it's it's not football. And I
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: don't think the numbers suggest that there is like a
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: gateway from flag football to tackle football. And the league
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: needs to address the fact that participation in tackle football
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: is going down. Flag football is not the way to
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: do it. It's it's too show the benefits of tackle football.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Like how it's helped young men.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: And you know, I do this coaches clinic every year,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: and you know, they give awards to kids and you
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: know some of these kids, like you look at them,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: they don't look like football players, but what they learned
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: from being on a football team is going to help
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: them in life.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: And football is.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: One you know, like I know, you'll stick up for hockey,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: but the nature of a football team, with all the
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: varied positions and types of players that you need, sizes
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: and shapes and everything, there is a role for everybody
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: on a football team. And it's a hard sport, like
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: and you learn a lot from football, and I think
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: the league needs to start promoting that at the youth level,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Like you get this from playing tackle football.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: And I know the whole health thing.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: But tackle football is more safe than it ever has been,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: you know, because of all the rules changes and helmets
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Start promoting what the good stuff
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: about tackle football instead of falling back to flag football.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: That's not going to help participation in tackle football, and
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: that's desperately needed because the talent pool is dwindling and international.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: You might help a little twenty years from now, it's
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: not gonna help ten years from now. We got to
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: get more kids playing tackle football, and flat football is
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: not the way to do it. That's just my soapbox
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: on the step you're stepping off right now.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: I feel like you're stepping up in defensive kids kind
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: of like me when I was a kid, the fat kids, right,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: because there's always sports that you can run fast. You
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: want to play flag football, right, you're good, But like you,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what I love about football.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: That makes it unique.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: Like you said, there's all different body types required and
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: everyone can have it.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Most places, it's a no cut sport. In high school,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: you come out, you're on the team. We'll find something
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: for you to do. We'll find something for you to do,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: and you'll be part of this team. And if you
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: stick with it, you're gonna learn a lot. And you know,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: some of these you know, these coaches, they're you know,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: great people, and they're doing it after work. They're they're volunteering,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: and you know, you know, I don't want to diminish
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: all the other sports, but there's just something more to football.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Planning of it, the coaching that's required, the different coaches
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: that you need, it's it's you know, it's I think
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: it's the best team sport ever created.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: I mean there's I mean, it's got everything. There's pace,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: there's violence, there's you know, I can get it. Not
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: to get like philosophical, but it embodies the human experience.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: And I mean, I think so many kids who play
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: high school football or really any sport, but I mean
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: specifically football because it is a little bit harder.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: Those lessons you learned from the challenges, it's so important.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, and being able to play through injuries and
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: to you know, I'm going through it now with my
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: kids and they're playing high school sports and you know,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: learning about getting you know, not getting enough playing time
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: or you know, thinking that you should have something you don't,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: and I mean, I think all those things are great
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: for sports, but there is something unique about football sure.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, listen, my kid wouldn't have gone to
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: college had it not been for lacrosse. But I remember
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: when he went out for Pop Warner, and I remember
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: those first couple of practices in the summer. He came
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: back and I don't know if I want to do this.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: And I sat him down and I said, you don't
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: have to, but if you stick with this, you're going
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: to see You're going to see what it can do
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: for you. And he did, you know, and he did,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: and he was glad he did. There's just a structure
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: to football that for a lot of kids, they need
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: that structure.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: And there's tens.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: Of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of young men,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: young boys, that this sport has helped and the league
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: needs to do a better job getting that out there.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: And whether it's creating a network of people that parents
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: can talk to when they're trying to decide to let
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: their kids play tackle football, you know, not just coaches,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: but like former NFL alumni that live in your area
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: have a network of people that they can talk to,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: you know, go to the schools, talk about the benefits
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: of football and we need to do a better job
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: in the NFL going on offense for football.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: I think you're I don't want a hard dose of
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: truth for the NFL, because I agree with you in
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: the fact that do we really think that flag is
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: going to become a feeder system for tacking.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: It's not.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe for a couple of kids who can run and
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: play receiver and avoid getting hit for a couple of
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: years and then they get in and all right now,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: but the rest of the.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: Game is entirely different.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: And I mean just experience my son, who, by the way,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: have five touchdowns in flag football, but went into the
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: lacrosse and now it's like gets his bell wrong and
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: you realize there's a completely different world of flag football
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: and tackle football. I mean, there's just non contact sports
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: and contact sports in general, right, but there's no way
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: to simulate what real football is with.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: No I do think it has helped, though, like the
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: passing game sophistication and.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: What is that like off field seven on seven camps
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: or is that specifically flag football.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: I think it's probably both. But I the receivers that
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: are coming into the league specifically, their level of skill
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: is so much higher. I think I mean, every single
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: year there were the talent pool at wide receiver is
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: just off the charts, and I think a lot of
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: that does have to do with the fact that they
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: are playing year round, even if it's not tackle football,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: just learning you know how to catch, learning how to
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: run routes, learning you know how to in the open field,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: you know how to avoid people in the open field.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: Like I hear what you're saying in terms of it
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: not being the same, because it's not. But there we
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: have seen, you know, quarterbacks get better, receivers get better
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: as a result, like I.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: Because they're playing, like you said, they're doing it year right, you.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: Know that's the biggest thing. Yeah, but you know nowadays,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: like the talent in the draft that wide receiver every
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: single year is just it's incredible. But keep it going,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: like we can't find tackles anymore, you.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: Know, Like right, that is that part of it, you know,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: and listen participations going down. That's a fact. So we
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: need to reverse that. We need to reverse it.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, I said, look, when I was in California,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: lacrosse was eating into football too, Like Relifornia, that was
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: almost ten years ago.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Now that's good sport all right, let's get back to
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: your calls on the hot line. Eight five five pass
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: five hundred. Todd's in North Carolina.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: What's up, Todd?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 11: Not much, said Braskin.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 9: I've got one question, but before I ask it, i
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 9: just want to say forged in Boxborough, simply amazing.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: Thank you, and your energy today is great.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: Well listen our first day of OTA, so we're ready
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: to go.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: Plus not here rain On yeah, yeah, yeah, they were
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: okay here.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 9: This is a.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: Cattle show.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 9: And he says that the secret weapon on defense is
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 9: going to be white.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 11: Now, I want to know if you guys have a
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 11: favorite or a secret weapon for this upcoming year, and
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 11: if it's not white, who is it?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: Thus, Okay, thanks, that's a good question. Key On White
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: involved today and you can see how what they kind
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: of have planned for him. I don't know if it's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: my secret weapon, but I think my crush this year
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: is going to be Robertsplaine, for he.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: Took the woods out of my mouth some speed.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: At the I mean I just saw him run out
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: of the tunnel today and like we've seen him, we had.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: Him on I know we didn't get him on the show.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: We met him and talk to you.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: We need him though, But all of a sudden, the
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: helmet comes on, the blood, the shield, he just like
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: sprints onto the field faster than anyone I've ever seen.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's just a high, high energy guy at
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: at my favorite position, linebacker, And now I'm excited.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: That's positive energy. I know he's a secret weapon, but
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I would more call him an
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: X factor, Like if he, like if Keon White realizes
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: his potential and and evolves into another stud with Barmore
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: and Milton Williams on the defensive line, now you're really
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: got something watch out. But it could also go the
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: other way, and he could and he could just be
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: this for the rest, you know, a good not great
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: player for the rest of his career. So he looks
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: the part.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you stand him next to Barmore, Milton
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: Williams and you know Harold Landry and you know Chase
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: On those guys that are they're playing along the line
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: of scrimmage, I mean they they look they got.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: A legit front front front group. Yeah. I mean, there's
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of moving parts on offense, but first rapid
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: team drills, it's those four guys across, you know, Landry Williams,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: bar More and Kean White, and you're like, all right,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: here we go, Arn Davis Konzo on the outside.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: We talk about all these guys at such length that
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: it's hard to have a secret weapon on this show, right,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: you know, because we're covering everybody.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean I think the secret
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: weapon might be as camp goes along and you realize
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: that somebody is going to have a little bit more
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: of a role, like you know, Craig Woodson, just throw
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: it out. You know, he's gonna be like, you know,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: somebody's gonna that you're not expecting is really coming on
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: and might have.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: A role somewhere.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean's and Vancouver. What's up, Sean.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 11: I want to help that caller earlier who was going
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 11: on about Polk when it eased his concerns a little bit.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 8: Right now in May, I see Polk at like seventh
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: on the wide receiver depth chart. You have dig yeah Douglas,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 8: than you have Williams.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 15: You have that.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 9: What's the pre agent?
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not helping you, Sean. You got Booby and Born
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: so that's like six and now it's five.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 7: Dick is on people to start the year is an
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 7: easier path, but there's no guarantees that he makes the team.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 8: He's gonna really have to show something on the field
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 8: and he's gonna have to prove himself.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 11: So if if.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 9: Pulk and Baker are on this team, it shows that
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 9: they made a huge year two jump.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: And that's what I see it fair enough.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: I think that's fair bring my death. If they make
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: the team, that means they have earned it.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I do worry about Jalen Polk though, because he
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: was fine in camp last year and then it just
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: completely unrallied for him in the season. So like for
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: people that have been here, you know, like Elliot Wolf,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: like does he look at it and say, well, like
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: let's pump the brakes like he did this last summer too,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: and then we got into the season and it didn't
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: look the same. So that's the part that I think
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: is tricky with Polk in particular, is that he did
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: put together a pretty good rookie training camp and he
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: looked the part and it looked like he was going
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: to have a role and all that kind of stuff,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: And to like you said earlier, he doesn't get his
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: foot in bounds against Miami early on in the season,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: and that was sort of it.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he started thinking and dropping and it just
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it just and I don't think he
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: was getting the support he needed, maybe the tough love
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: that he needed.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm surprised they didn't mention Baker too, because
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: I feel like there are probably more people on the
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: Baker hype train, even though they probably did. Both did
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: nothing last year really when they boil it down. But
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: I I don't know. We'll see how he how he
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: comes through. I think it's a good piece to have.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: I still like him, I still like the player. I
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: just hope that Josh McDaniels is able to put him
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: in position to be successful this year and build his confidence.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: Kendall's in North Carolina and Kendall on the field, can't
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: make the club from the top. Kendall there, kend oh
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: there you are. Hey.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask y'all what did y'all see out
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: of Kendrick Born today?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, both of them were active.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, thanks Kendall. One caught some passes. I mean
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  Speaker 4: they you know, yeah, he looks healthy.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: He's good.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: Good to see him back out there, and you know
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: fully participant in you know, Chisholm. You talked a little
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: bit about him, but he was he was around me.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean aftin Chisholm looks exactly like every other
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: slot receiver I've ever seen in a Patriots training camp
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: so far, uh, you know, from Riley mccarren to Austin
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: Carr to Gunner ol Chefsky to Braxton Barrios to keep
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: you know whoever. I mean, he got open, He gets open,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. Now he's running a lot
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: with Josh Dobbs and sort of the second unit today,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: So I want to see it against you know, Carlton Davis, Gonzalez,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: Marcus Jones, like you know, some of the top corners
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: that they have here. But if he's uh, you know,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: he's got that just good knack of you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of understanding how to get open and where he's supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be and knows his sweet spots and that sort
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: of thing. He's got quickness. He's not fast, but he's quick.
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  Speaker 3: So I think there's something there for him.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: Did cause you question, did you clock anybody any other
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: corners involved there? Like you know, had a nice play
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  Speaker 4: with Williams where he's kind of running with him down
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  Speaker 4: the field.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some Alex Austin in there a little bit, But
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: those four guys seem to get a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: reps during Team Gonzales. Davis Marcus, when's our next access
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  Speaker 3: next week? Yeah? I think next Wednesday.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and then Monday, and then I think Mini Camp. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: my weeks are correct.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jonathan from Virginia. Loved the show, been listening
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: since thirteen. Wanted to drop in and echo the terrific
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: response to Forged in Foxborough. I watched it this weekend
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: and was put at ease with the hiring.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: Of Mike Vrabel. Very well done.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: Also, I don't live there anymore, but Traveon Henderson is
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: from the town I grew up in in Hopewell, Virginia.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: We went to the same high school a few years apart.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: Saw when he helped win the state championship that season,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: was thinking you might fall to us. Since Judkins went
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: to the Browns and was thrilled when he did, makes
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: it super easy to root for him in the NFL.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: Now it's a big deal in that city that he
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: made it. Saw James White talk about a little birdie
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: telling him that they're having Trey watch tape of his
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: time playing. What have you seen from him in the
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: limited amount of time that he's been on the field,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: and does it carry those same James White vibes little
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: too soon?
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: Well, just it was only today.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: He wasn't out at the one rookie MENI camp practice
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: that we got to see.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: But Evan laid it out. Yeah, he looked quick. I
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: mean he's not the biggest guy, but but he's built. Yeah,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: it looks balanced like good. Yeah, it's great to see
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: a thirty two running back. Thirtiness to him, good speed.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I think he's different from James White, Like
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: I think James White was a true pass catching back,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: you know his third down, third and six. Henderson has
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: more speed, right, Henderson's just a little bit more explosive,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: But like, I think he's more well rounded than I know.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: James White was good, you know, ran the ball more
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: in college. But I just don't look at them exactly
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: the same because I think Henderson's faster in a straight
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: line and not quite as quick as James White was.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: But James White was extremely quick, but maybe not that
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: breakaway speed.
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  Speaker 1: I got a.
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  Speaker 4: Sturdy too, even though they're both small guys, Like I
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  Speaker 4: get a little bit more of a Henderson could take
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more of a beating if he had
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  Speaker 4: to run early down go through that.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: That's definitely what I mean. Look, it's one practice. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to sit here and like start fitting the
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: guy for red jackets. But like, the one thing that
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: i'd always you always look for is like how does
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: he move? And like how does he carry the weight?
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: And he just looks like a built player, explosive, built
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: player that's not six', five not, huge but he's he's
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  Speaker 3: got that compact like juice to, him WHICH i think is.
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  Speaker 2: Daniel writes In i've heard everything About rabel's time With
• 1:37:24
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• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: New england as a, coach but nothing about his time
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: with The. Browns do you have any opinions or insight
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: on his time there and if it might have affected his?
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: Coaching so last, Year.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah we talked about it and a fun, times so you,
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  Speaker 3: KNOW i think it was.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: UH i think it was a learning, thing, Right Kevin
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: stefanski's idea to have him work with the offense a
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: little bit and work with the offensive, line so getting
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: a little bit more rounded out in his. Coaching but
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: every TIME i See, RABEL i mean that goes back
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: even before last. YEAR i feel like that guy can't
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: get away from the offensive, Line like he just loves
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: putting that Pad on and tangling with the big, Boys
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: LIKE i just think it puts them back when he's playing.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: Days that's what he's the most, Relatable like they're the
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: ONES i think you want to coach.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: More, yeah you know he has a coaching point for
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: after every single play he's saying something like there's some
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: coaches that are kind of stand offish AND i you, know,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: TODAY i don't know if it was just by, design
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: but Like josh McDaniel seemed a little like he had
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: the headset on and was relaying the plays and he
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: was kind of letting them play like he wasn't not
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: after every. Rep he wasn't going up To drake and
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: like coaching. Him But rabel was ten yards behind the.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: Play after every play he was talking to, guys you
• 1:38:36
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• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: and we've noticed that In Rooky minichamp, Too like he's
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: as involved as any Coach i've, like maybe even more
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: involved Than bill in some. Respects he's got an opinion about. Everything, yeah, yeah,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah so we had a lot of praise heaped on.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: Us now some, grievances got, it this is who is?
• 1:38:57
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• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: now and there's something else that bothers. Me first, off
• 1:39:03
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• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: over with, one the intro Says patriots unfiltered too many.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: Times please get rid of the robot. Voice the world's
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  Speaker 2: original podcast. Works we don't need to hear it. More
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• 1:39:33
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• 1:40:38
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• 1:40:47
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• 1:41:39
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• 1:44:13
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  Speaker 4: Jacobs SO i don't, KNOW i just it's just great
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: to look out there and be, like There's Will. Campbell
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 4: you spent all this like last three months thinking about this.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: Kid is he going to be? Here and then all
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: of a, sudden he's just. There he, is he's your left. Tackles.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean there's gonna be rookie growing paints for any,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: player And i'm Sure Will campbell have. His but just
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: like the way he moves looks like a top ten. Pick,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: yeah the explosiveness out of his stance and just how
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: quickly he gets into the block and the power that
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: he can generate from the ground.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: Up and he's still a, baby, yeah relatively. Speaking he's
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: only twenty.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: Two, yeah, well AND i think that's a good, thing
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: you know, too just their theme of last couple of.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: Years you, know you Get gonzo's only twenty, Two drake
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: may is still only twenty. Two Will campbell is young
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: and all these guys that came out as true junior, declares,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: like you, know that's like the real premium talent when
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: you get your hand and they've been drafting highs and that's.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: Why but like that's those types of guys are the
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: guys that are really the blue chip level talents because
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: they broke out so early in their college. Careers so
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: you see all three of these guys together, now and
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: LIKE i said, EARLIER i, Mean gonzo is the best
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: player on the field.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: Today you know WHAT i was thinking about real quick
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: was when we Had chase on in here and he
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: talked about going Opposite Max. Crosby Is patriots Got Max
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 4: crosby coming here week one For Will. CAMPBELL i wonder
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: if that's going to be a matchup That.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: Max crosby, typically, Right, yeah they switch them to go
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: after the. ROOKIE i, Mean i'd definitely be testing him
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: IF i was another. Team. Yeah.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: Sure matthew And arizona Love forge And foxborough was wondering
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: it would be fun to do a small web. Series
• 1:46:00
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• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: a golf cart to and From Duncan Gillette stadium To
• 1:46:06
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• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: LIVES a good way to get to know. Everyone one on.
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  Speaker 3: One dunkin, run you could do That dunkin Run, yeah
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: up on the.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, yeah because you'd have to take the long, Way
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: so that would be a good you, know ten to
• 1:46:20
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• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: Fun Because i'm not the best golf cart.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 4: Driver to add an element of danger to it THAT
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: i think would really spice it up a little bit of.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: YOU i, mean what if what if you had a
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: driver and the two of you sit in that backseat
• 1:46:32
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• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: Golf cart On route? One might be, like, no you
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• 1:46:38
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• 1:46:43
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• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: Duncan, yeah and mobile order they bring it right. Out
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: So i'm gonna, say because the one and the one
• 1:46:50
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• 1:46:52
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• 1:46:53
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• 1:47:00
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• 1:47:12
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• 1:47:45
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• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: EMAILS i was worried that when we pushed the show
• 1:47:54
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• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: according to the calls and, emails we'll still have the
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: same amount of. People So paul didn't tell, like he,
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: said can we do the show On? Wednesday because of.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: Practice he didn't tell me that he wasn't going to
• 1:48:06
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• 1:48:07
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  Speaker 2: advice planning to come over from THE uk to watch
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: a home game early in the, season which SHOULD i.
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  Speaker 2: Choose i'm leaning towards The steelers because of the, history
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: But panther seems like emphasis on seams the best chance
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: of seeing a. Win or SHALL i suck it up
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: and go to?
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: Both? Well, Both, well that's a good call to go
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: early in the. Season you want to you, know you
• 1:48:48
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• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: Knows so it's a good. CALL i would Go pittsburgh
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  Speaker 3: like there's a little bit more like he, said there's a,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: more more, history more, rivalry Like panthers that it just
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: doesn't have a lot of juice to be.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: Well but if your sole goal is to see a, win,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: true it might Be. Panthers BUT i say, that but
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: who knows who's going to be what this.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: YEAR i also who's going to Be steeers. Quarterback it
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: sounds like it's gonna Be Aaron. Rodgers but there.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 4: Also might be a cost consideration because that might be
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: one of those upper tier. Games it's a little bit
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 4: more expensive than The panthers game.
• 1:49:22
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• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: an iconic moment in, time almost biblical. Epic it symbolizes
• 1:49:42
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  Speaker 3: Happen it's.
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  Speaker 2: the severed head of the vanquished enemy of. MEDIOCRITY i
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: don't see any other frozen moments that tells. Us SO i,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: guess did you guys ask for what the statue should.
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  Speaker 1: Look like or.
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  Speaker 3: That's just? Random? OKAY i think we.
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  Speaker 4: Did we did tell we did some statue talk last,
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  Speaker 4: week maybe from out a little bit of Sat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah and if if you want to know when the
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• 1:50:23
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  Speaker 2: that he's rarely, there but he's very.
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  Speaker 3: Involved Pe CARROLL. P carroll, said, yeah it makes. Sense
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  Speaker 3: he is the. Coach SO i don't know what very
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: involved me sounds like it might be, annoying but, yeah
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: daily update. Callers he was supposed to be here more.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: Often like how percentage of the team does he? Own
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: actually do we? Know is it like? One, Yeah mark's In.
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  Speaker 2: Connecticut there we, Go, mark what's?
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  Speaker 9: Hey everybody thinks for taking my? CALL i got a
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 9: two quick things for, you speaking Of Will, Campbell i'm
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 9: on vacation down here In Baton. Rouge what we see in?
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  Speaker 17: Us?
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  Speaker 9: Right AND i got to go down To Tiger. Stadium
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  Speaker 9: what an amazing facility they got.
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  Speaker 3: THERE i was.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 9: There and the other, Thing, evan how does our GUY
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  Speaker 9: J deprie? LOOK i know it's only a, spring you,
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  Speaker 9: KNOW o pas and, Whatever but what do you think
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  Speaker 9: is the kid got a good shot.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: To make the.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 3: ROSTER i can't wait to see him in. Pads he
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: looks he's. Huge, yeah it looks like he's a sixth
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: offensive lineman when he lines up at outside the. Tackle
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: so this is not the time of year FOR. Cj
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: dupree to. Shine he's not an. Athlete he's a big
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: time blocker and a you, know, big big physical. Dude
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: so we'll see when the pads come on In. August
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: that's when he's going to make the. ROSTER i don't
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: think it's going to be, now but that just even
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: had rookie midiicamp that he just a big, guy you,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: know really well.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: BUILT i was kind of, thought Shaheem bell looked, good
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 4: like well. BUILT i didn't seem to anything, today but
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: just saw him walking out and look like he's in
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: real good. Shape we'll see he's another one of those
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: wild card.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: Guys.
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  Speaker 3: YEAH i went down to Uh l's For Jaden daniels's
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: pro day a couple of years, ago and that facility is.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: Something it was. Cool they have like catwalks so you
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: can so you can get like the bird's eye view
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: of the of the practice. Field SO i was up
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: there Watching Jayden daniels throw darts To Molik neighbors And
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas junior.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: And all three of these guys again, right oh my,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: God like that's when we were at that partment, before
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 4: WHEN i was, like can you believe he used to
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: Be Joe burrow And jefferson And chase and now can you?
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: Believe Like.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: Mike And groveland writes IN i emailed about having better
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: off season programming like other teams own hard knock style. Shows,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: wow you delivered with that first episode of fours and
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  Speaker 2: Fox bow well done by All SO i mean, People
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: I'm i'm really glad that people are enjoying, it you,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: know like he, said other teams have had this like
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: nothing new was, invented but for our fan, base it's all.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: New, yeah it's all.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: New so it felt like kind of a pellet cleanser
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: to me after the last couple of, years where just
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: if a video could hit the reset button as far
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: as the mood around the, team that's what it felt
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: like it did for. Me and that's just you know
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 4: where my fan hat like they showed us the, TRAILER
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: i don't, know like three weeks ago or.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: SOMETHING i don't. Like this is this is. Perfect this
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: is just what this team needs to just hit the reset.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: Button as far as all this stuff goes and you,
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 4: know get everybody focused on what's so great about Rabel,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: Is like people know, them they like, them but they're
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: not like they don't know him knowing they don't know
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: him as a coach really Had and that's WHAT i
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: think they'll they'll they'll it'll be good to get to
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 4: know him that.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: Way, yeah it's good to get to know the personnel guys,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: Too LIKE i Think Ryan kaden seems like an awesome,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: executive right and have him here, too and get to
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: know him and maybe get to Know elliott a little
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: bit more than what people know of. Him you. KNOW
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: i think that's. GOOD i think that's it's good to
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: like have that sort of relationship with a. GUY i
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: don't think that's always the case.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: HERE i almost ran up to him today because he
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: was walking off a little bit before, me and, like
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: he's just been so nice to all of, us and
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: we talked to him on, hey when we talked to
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: him during draft, nights, saying you, know nice to meet you,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 4: guys you know this way, finally but, YEAH i don't,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: know he just he seems to really care and understand
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: the position he's, in AND i think so far he's
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: doing a good job kind of bringing it all.
• 1:54:21
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• 1:55:08
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  Speaker 4: That, yeah it's like the five year Old evan was
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: LIKE i don't. CARE i was, like where's the where's the?
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  Speaker 4: Shark like that looks fake. Stupid, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, YEAH i MEAN i can't understand now with C
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• 1:55:33
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• 1:55:38
  Speaker 3: Which is another, SHOW i mean that shock didn't look
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: those shorts. Looks BUT i think you can suspend disbelief
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: In that's WHAT i.
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  Speaker 2: Mean but nowadays nobody wants to suspend.
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  Speaker 3: Joke it's gonna look LIKE i just didn't get it's
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: no Humor And, josh what do you mean like all
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  Speaker 3: the like the little one liners that you And paul are,
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  Speaker 3: dropped those aren't actually. Jokes they're just actually dramatic.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: Boat that's that would be that would be your college film.
• 1:56:04
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• 1:56:07
  Speaker 4: Course, WELL i MEAN i, WISH i Wish paul is
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 4: here because you, know but is there an Actual are
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: there actually any?
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: Jokes like joke jokes and you guys laugh at. Things you,
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• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: That's supposed to be a. Joke jokes about like the
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• 1:56:26
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• 1:56:44
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  Speaker 3: All he. Was it's probably very scared that he wasn't
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• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: guys show and forged And Fox. Bro we haven't really
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: talked about the competition Will campbell will ultimately have to
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: face as a. Rookie could you guys please touch on.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: THAT i know it's a long way, away BUT i
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: think it's a good talking.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: Point.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh we Touched Max.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: Crosby in week.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: One if they move him around was opposite.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: Him, now, though are they gonna what the kid they
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 4: drafted last? Year pretty, high but it was kind of
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 4: a bust banking yeah like. Him, yeah you, know maybe
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 4: he gets a little bit of a, break BUT i,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 4: look every week.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be. HARD i, mean he's a rookie.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 4: Tackle whether you're gonna Face Max crosby or Just Joe
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 4: average right, end it's gonna be tough on.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: Me.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: YEAH i think the guy that just in, division Like
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: Chop robinson From, miami like you worry with reach and
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: things like you worry about speed in particular off the
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: edge being a problem for guys Like Will Campbell's so,
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 3: yeah he's gonna See Chop robinson In miami twice a. Year,
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