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Taking 'Sides' with Larson Home Services · Ask The Experts

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  Speaker 1: Eight O six thirteen ten double U, I B A
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  Speaker 1: and Ask the Experts brought to you this morning by
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  Speaker 1: Larsen Home Services Online Larsen Home Services dot com. That's
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  Speaker 1: Tell for number six oh eight five three five forty
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  Speaker 1: three forty three. That's forty three forty three. That's six
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  Speaker 1: oh eight five three five forty three forty three. And
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  Speaker 1: joined this morning by Andrew Larson from Larist Home Services. Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: how you doing this week?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm always good. We're gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: Talking you and I I for folks that don't know
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  Speaker 1: you do, uh, you do have a very uh, very
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  Speaker 1: upbeat look on things for good reason. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: talk about the works you guys do at Larson and
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  Speaker 1: and the opportunity to get to really help people, and
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about something that unless something's changed, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that you guys. You guys do siting at Larsen
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  Speaker 1: Home Services, but you got a question about them, didn't you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, this is called it's a show.
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  Speaker 1: Called Ask the Experts, right, so.
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  Speaker 2: You can ask anything you want and it's what we
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  Speaker 2: talk about on the Home Services Home Show. Our podcast
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  Speaker 2: is Bring On Questions, Any Questions, Me and my counterpart,
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  Speaker 2: Josh Keeney. We've got I don't know, forty five years
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  Speaker 2: of construction experience, and if we don't know the answer,
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  Speaker 2: we'll find it out. But I got an email from
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  Speaker 2: someone who listens. I don't know if it was from
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  Speaker 2: the podcast or from from the radio show, but there's
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  Speaker 2: just so many avenues to get a hold of me.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to keep track of Sean kidding, but they're asking.
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  Speaker 2: They're one about side and they wanted to reside their house,
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  Speaker 2: and it came with you know, they're talking about redoing
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  Speaker 2: soft and fatia and the gutters, which is stuff that
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  Speaker 2: we do. We don't do siding yet. We'll just leave
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  Speaker 2: that there, but no, we don't do siding. But they
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  Speaker 2: were wondering what type of siding is best? And well,
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  Speaker 2: that is such a loaded question. What type of siding
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  Speaker 2: is best? There are so many different types of siding.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't begin to even go through them all. You've
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  Speaker 2: got steel siding, aluminum siding, you've got seamless steel siding,
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  Speaker 2: you've got vinyl siding, and then within the vinyl siding class.
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  Speaker 2: There's probably twenty different grades of vinyl siding, meaning best
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  Speaker 2: to worst. You've got a lot of what's really taken
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  Speaker 2: over in the past twenty years and become a lot
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  Speaker 2: more relevant is fiber cement siding. You've got el brands
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  Speaker 2: like LP smart siding, and there's a few different kinds
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  Speaker 2: and those are those are made in factories. They're they're
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  Speaker 2: very very hard siding, so they don't wick up a
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  Speaker 2: lot of water. They come prepainted or pre primed, and
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  Speaker 2: all your steel and vinyl, all those sidings come prepainted.
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  Speaker 2: Now you can go back to old school cedar siding
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  Speaker 2: or cedar shakes siding anyway, it's endless. But what is
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  Speaker 2: most common right now are fiber cement sidings and vital sidings,
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  Speaker 2: and I will run through a few pros and cons
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  Speaker 2: of each. You know, steel and aluminum siding used to
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  Speaker 2: be super popular, and seamless steel siding where they came
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  Speaker 2: out with a machine kind of like a gutter machine,
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  Speaker 2: like a gutter shutter machine, and ran it out seamless.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's cool and all, and you don't have any seams,
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  Speaker 2: But as far as like functionability, the seamless aspect to
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  Speaker 2: a siding isn't like the seamless aspect to a gutter.
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  Speaker 2: A gutter, we want the gutter to be seamless so
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't leak. Right everywhere you've got a seam, you've
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  Speaker 2: got sealant, and it leaks. With seamless seamless siding, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. You just get a more quote unquote
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  Speaker 2: seamless look. Although with most sidings it's pretty hard to
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  Speaker 2: see the seams anyway, so I think that's become a
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  Speaker 2: lot less popular. The other thing with any sort of
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  Speaker 2: metal siding is it dentse It can dent pretty easily.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a great lawnmower, like like I am,
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  Speaker 2: the chances of shooting a rock at your house or
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  Speaker 2: slim to none because I've never done that before. But
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  Speaker 2: you put a dent in that metal siding, like, it's
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  Speaker 2: not just something you can easily fit and fix. There's
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of dentless siding repair people out there,
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  Speaker 2: so I guess I tend to lean towards, depending on
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  Speaker 2: what your budget is, vinyl, which a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: will be like, really you like vinyl? I do? I
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  Speaker 2: like vinyl siding a lot. And here's why, it's relatively
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  Speaker 2: inexpensive when as far as a good product. Now, again
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of different grades' yep, what was that.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's exactly what I was going to ask. I
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  Speaker 1: think I was going to say, Andrew. I think one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why people are are shocked to hear
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  Speaker 1: vinyl is a lot of folks experience with vinyl is
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  Speaker 1: that builder grade stuff, and they're going, why would you ever?
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  Speaker 1: And there's a difference between.
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  Speaker 2: There's huge differences, right, So there's something that's a lot thicker,
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  Speaker 2: has better finishes on it. Some of them actually put
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  Speaker 2: like clear coats on it, like protective coats so it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't fade as much. There's also vinyl siding that comes
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  Speaker 2: built in with UH with insulation on the back of it. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what we know about insulation is that insulation that's on
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  Speaker 2: there is probably not going to do anything for you
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  Speaker 2: in the winter simply because if that if that heat
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  Speaker 2: gets to that insulation, it's already outside your house anyway.
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  Speaker 2: But and I don't know what the R value is,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not sure the exact specifications, but it will
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  Speaker 2: it should keep your house cooler in the summer, because
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  Speaker 2: it would it would actually slow down the radiant heat
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  Speaker 2: transfer from outside to inside. So also vinyl siding is okay.
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  Speaker 2: So water can get behind most sidings and some sidings,
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  Speaker 2: if water gets behind it, it can be a real problem
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  Speaker 2: because it's not made for water to get behind it.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't really ventilate. So if certain sidings, if they're
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  Speaker 2: not flashed properly, not done properly, water gets behind there.
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  Speaker 2: You can have some major mold issues with vinyl side.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually made, I mean, water can get behind it.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to you always have to have a good
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  Speaker 2: house wrap underneath it. And it actually has wheep poles
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  Speaker 2: on it, so if water gets behind it, the water
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  Speaker 2: can drip out and air can travel through it so
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  Speaker 2: it can dry. Okay, there's vinyl, and it can be
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  Speaker 2: relatively inexpensive, but can actually, i mean really really make
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  Speaker 2: a home look nice. LP Smart or LP I shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: say LPLP is a brand. They're not paying me for this.
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  Speaker 2: I like that brand. I think it's a great brand
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  Speaker 2: of siding. It's what I specifically have on my home,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a very hard fiber cement type siding. Can
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  Speaker 2: mine actually has what's called a diamond cote on it,
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  Speaker 2: so it's pre painted in the factory has like a
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know, twenty or twenty five year warranty
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  Speaker 2: on the paint. So now that takes a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more of a skilled craftman to install. Are it's not
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  Speaker 2: as forgiving as a vinyl siding. You know vinyl siding,
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  Speaker 2: it's got a lot of nail holes on the top flange,
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  Speaker 2: and a big mistake people make is they nail it
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  Speaker 2: too tight. Oh, with heat and cool houses expanding contracting,
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  Speaker 2: so does your siding. So if you're ever driving past
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  Speaker 2: a new housing development and you see the side of
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  Speaker 2: a home and the siding's all wavy, it's because they
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  Speaker 2: nailed the siding too tight. So as soon as it
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  Speaker 2: expands and contracts, it can't move, so it starts to
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  Speaker 2: bow and ripple and it looks horrible. And the only
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  Speaker 2: way to fix that is to tear it all off
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  Speaker 2: and start over. So it has to have a little gift,
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  Speaker 2: so those nails are never nailed tightly. Fiber cement is
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  Speaker 2: completely different. Again, it's a lot more expensive. It gives
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  Speaker 2: you a more traditional wood look to your siding, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not traditional wood. It's made to last longer, pre
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  Speaker 2: painted in the factory, or at least pre primed in
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  Speaker 2: the factory, so your paint's going to last a lot
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  Speaker 2: a lot longer. But the one thing I will say
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  Speaker 2: with all of these is it's kind of like a
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  Speaker 2: roofing system in that the critical details need to be
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  Speaker 2: done before the siding goes on. Like a good roofing system,
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  Speaker 2: like our Ultimate Roofing Solution, we are doing the important
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  Speaker 2: stuff first, the ice and water, the leak barrier, the
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  Speaker 2: roofed wall flashing, the pipe flashing, the chimney flashing, the crickets,
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  Speaker 2: the ventilation. All of that stuff is done first. Then
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  Speaker 2: we put some nice beautiful shingles on over the top
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  Speaker 2: to protect the important stuff, to protect the stuff that
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  Speaker 2: will keep your home from leaking. Siding is the same way,
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  Speaker 2: and siding needs to be done in a step by
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  Speaker 2: step process where flashings are done around windows, windows are taped,
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  Speaker 2: house wrap goes on. House wrap needs to be overlapped
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  Speaker 2: the correct way. You do it bottom up so the
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  Speaker 2: top layer can overlap. Because water will almost certainly get
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  Speaker 2: behind your siding at some point. That's okay, it's meant
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  Speaker 2: to It's meant to get behind a vinyl or aluminum
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  Speaker 2: or a steel siding, so we have to make sure
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  Speaker 2: those critical details are done properly before we put the
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  Speaker 2: siding on. The siding is like the beautiful frosting on
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  Speaker 2: the cake. Okay, the other stuff it doesn't look so nice,
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  Speaker 2: but it's way more important to the siding are way
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  Speaker 2: more important to the integrity of your home, which is again,
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  Speaker 2: don't do siding. I know a lot about it. I've
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  Speaker 2: done a lot of siding, I've sold siding. There's my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting. It's just sing to talk a little bit
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  Speaker 1: too about siding. And when you point out, Andrew, I
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  Speaker 1: think one of the things that really caught my attention
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  Speaker 1: there was part of that last point is is similar
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  Speaker 1: to what when we talk about roofing is is what
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  Speaker 1: you see is really more visually, is more about visuals
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  Speaker 1: and less about performances. As as as a homeowner, it's
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  Speaker 1: what you don't see often times that makes all the difference.
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  Speaker 1: And I talk about you know, I know one of
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  Speaker 1: the great things with largstom services, whether you're doing roofs,
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  Speaker 1: you're doing roofs or any other type of work on
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  Speaker 1: somebody's houses, you love to have, you know, come out,
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  Speaker 1: get that, get that estimate, that get that home inspection.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing with signing is get that get to have
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  Speaker 1: that conversation going. But also making sure who you work
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  Speaker 1: with has a great reputation as well. Is once that
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  Speaker 1: stuff goes on, you're not going to know you know
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  Speaker 1: how well it was done until gosh forbid, you have
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  Speaker 1: an issue. Working with somebody that you trust in these
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  Speaker 1: areas is really really important, isn't it, Andrew?
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  Speaker 2: It's extremely important because again it has to be done right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I drive by housing developments all the time,
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  Speaker 2: and this is the stuff I look at. Okay, we've
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  Speaker 2: talked about this before. It is a disease, it's an illness.
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  Speaker 2: I can't get rid of it. I look at gutters, roofing, facia, trim, soffit, siding,
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  Speaker 2: That's what I look at. And I see that waviness
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  Speaker 2: all the time, and I think to myself, a does
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  Speaker 2: that homeowner even notice it? Because some people don't look
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  Speaker 2: at stuff like that. Some people don't have an illness
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  Speaker 2: like I have. Right, they don't look at that type
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  Speaker 2: of stuff, and if they did look at it, they
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't really know what's going on. Anyway. I see it
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  Speaker 2: from a mile away and well that was that was
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  Speaker 2: done by a rookie. Right, that's a rookie mistake. Very simple,
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  Speaker 2: very simple, something very simple to happen. But I will
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  Speaker 2: say this, a lot of people call us and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: do you do siding. No, you know, we don't do siding.
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  Speaker 2: We do soft in facia, we do gutters, we do rooking,
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  Speaker 2: we do instalation. That's what we try to be experts in.
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  Speaker 2: I think the day might come that we do do siding. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I've done a ton of it. I know a lot
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  Speaker 2: about it. It's relatively easy to do. Just making sure
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  Speaker 2: you do the things, the important details correctly, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: the most important part. But a lot of people think
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  Speaker 2: they need to do new siding to dress their house up.
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  Speaker 2: We do soft and facial work every single week. So
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  Speaker 2: if you're not sure, like, okay, do I hate my
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  Speaker 2: siding or do I hate my trim color. There's so
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  Speaker 2: many houses that were built twenty years ago that were
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  Speaker 2: a beige, A beige house with white trim. Yes, I
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  Speaker 2: mean right, yeah, some sort of gray, some sort of
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  Speaker 2: beige with white trim. We can come and we can
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  Speaker 2: redo the trim part of the house. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: people are going to black black soft and in facia
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  Speaker 2: with black gutters, it's super sharp. Now you take that
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  Speaker 2: same beige siding you had, you put black trim on,
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  Speaker 2: and then you maybe put some black shutters on. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just saying that that is way less intrusive, a lot
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  Speaker 2: less expensive, and we can put some gutter shutter on.
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  Speaker 2: So now your gutters are maintenance free and you would
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  Speaker 2: be amazed at the difference it would make on your
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  Speaker 2: home without tearing all the siding off. Now, if you
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  Speaker 2: do that and it's not enough, you can always do
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  Speaker 2: the siding after that. So we do the soft in
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  Speaker 2: infacia and gutter all the time because our reps say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you want to do the gutters. Now's a great time
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  Speaker 2: to maybe redo your soft and in facia as well, because
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  Speaker 2: now instead of only being able to look at putting
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  Speaker 2: white gutters on, now we have a whole array of
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  Speaker 2: colors and we can match the soft and in facia
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  Speaker 2: trim to it, and now we can really change the
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  Speaker 2: look of your entire home. So just something to throw.
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  Speaker 1: Out, it's a really great option for folks as well.
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  Speaker 1: As we talk with Andrew Larson from Larsen Home Services,
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  Speaker 1: also by the way. Just just kind of a timely
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  Speaker 1: conversation as well. And Andrew, I think folks need to
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  Speaker 1: think about this is you guys are going year round
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  Speaker 1: as well for people are and I know we're still
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  Speaker 1: in summer, and I certainly don't want to start getting
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  Speaker 1: the winter and fall mentality in people's heads, but the
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  Speaker 1: reality is it will come soon. Folks need to realize.
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  Speaker 1: Lars Home Services, you guys are here for people year round.
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  Speaker 1: Now is the time, though, to start having those conversations
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  Speaker 1: about about having your house looked at, whether you're looking
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  Speaker 1: new roof, you're looking for facia, gutters, all that great stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew and the team love to talk with you. It's
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  Speaker 1: a really great, really great opportunity to learn a little
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  Speaker 1: as well about your home. All I got to do
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  Speaker 1: is give them a call. Six oh eight five three
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  Speaker 1: five forty three forty three. That's six oh eight five
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  Speaker 1: three five four three four to three. The website Larsenhome
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  Speaker 1: Services dot com. That's l A R. S o N
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  Speaker 1: Home Services dot com. Andrew, it's always great chat with
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  Speaker 1: you a Fred. You have a great day. We'll do
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  Speaker 1: it all again super soon.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to you next week.
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