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MADDIE SOTO DEAD: MOM'S BF CLAIMS 'MADDIE STARTED IT' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Gray.
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  Speaker 2: She was supposed to be dropped off at school. Dan't
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  Speaker 2: make it a school, didn't make it aol. It was
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  Speaker 2: walking in that direction. She was rifely through her back.
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  Speaker 3: Beck little Maddie, so to just thirteen, it's found just dumped, dumped.
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  Speaker 4: I sent them to sleep upstairs so that I could
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  Speaker 4: get a good night's sleep.
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  Speaker 3: Years of sex abuse by mommy's live in.
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  Speaker 5: He's a pedophile, thirty five thousand videos and photos.
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  Speaker 2: He's a predator.
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  Speaker 4: I believe the sexual stuff, but I didn't want to
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  Speaker 4: believe that he had done anything.
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  Speaker 6: Equal to her letting the fox and the henhouse? What
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  Speaker 6: was she thinking?
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  Speaker 7: Madeline is thirteen years old. She has been missing since
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  Speaker 7: eight thirty on Monday morning, when mom's boy friend dropped
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  Speaker 7: her off near Hunter's Creek Middle School.
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  Speaker 2: So she was supposed to be dropped off at school,
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  Speaker 2: didn't make it.
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  Speaker 4: To school, didn't make it to school. I went to
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  Speaker 4: pick her up from school today and she never came out.
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  Speaker 4: They announced it over the speaker, and I'm just like,
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  Speaker 4: maybe she walked here, because sometimes she'll walk here to
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  Speaker 4: this office.
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  Speaker 8: I came here nothing.
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  Speaker 9: I went back to the school that was closed.
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  Speaker 4: I got to notice an email from the school thing
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  Speaker 4: she was absent.
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  Speaker 10: But I also messaged her teacher and he.
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  Speaker 4: Looked at her entire tendance today and saw that she.
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  Speaker 9: Was completely not at school today either. Okay, so she
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  Speaker 9: never made it.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, what's her name?
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  Speaker 10: Madeline?
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  Speaker 6: M A d e o I any I'm a d
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  Speaker 6: e out I any last name?
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  Speaker 10: Ohto stop it, stop it.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's your natural reaction to look at the
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  Speaker 3: person speaking. That would be Maddie's mother speaking. The guy
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  Speaker 3: that hands over the cell phone is the living.
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  Speaker 6: I just want to.
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  Speaker 3: Around his neck. How dare he even stand there like that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to a very special guest joining us.
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  Speaker 3: It's Terracina Niles. This is a very dear member of
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  Speaker 3: the family related to Mattie Soto's bio dad wife.
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  Speaker 6: Terrasina, thank you for being with us. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, in the last days, I've been reading all
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  Speaker 3: the new headlines and we went further and got there's
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  Speaker 3: a nine hundred page document that I have been, you know,
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  Speaker 3: wading through. I've got to tell you it just made
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  Speaker 3: my heart stop. And I understand that you and Maddie's
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  Speaker 3: bio Dad, are reeling at the new information, which aspect
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  Speaker 3: of the new information just released is the most concerning
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  Speaker 3: to you.
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  Speaker 11: I think the biggest aspect has been the timelines that.
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  Speaker 10: You know, we weren't.
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  Speaker 11: You're ready to hear, but you're never ready to hear,
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  Speaker 11: and so seeing those kind of layout and I have
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  Speaker 11: seen quite a bit from social media, and it's just
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  Speaker 11: it's just devastating, and the description of how she was
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  Speaker 11: found and just things of that nature. Just you're never
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  Speaker 11: ready to hear something like that.
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  Speaker 7: Well, she last scene where wants something?
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  Speaker 12: Green hoodies, green, white cross, white crosssts.
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  Speaker 13: Black shorts, Yeah, black shorts, Okay, black shorts?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Do you know she has like friends in area?
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  Speaker 9: She does, but she don't where they live.
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  Speaker 3: I want to go out to Shannon Butler. It was
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  Speaker 3: an investigative reporter WFTV nine in Florida. Shannon, thank you
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  Speaker 3: so much for being with us. I gotta tell you
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  Speaker 3: this new release of documents and information, this with the
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  Speaker 3: backdrop of the boyfriend, Steven Stearns, being charged with at
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  Speaker 3: least sixty sex counts on children, be it taking videos, pictures, molesting,
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  Speaker 3: the whole shebang, and look, the mom did not murder
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  Speaker 3: the daughter he did, according to police. But wow, I
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  Speaker 3: can't help but feel blame toward mommy.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think everybody.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, we have been following this case for months
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  Speaker 9: and we have had so many people call an email
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  Speaker 9: and say what are they going to do about Jen Soto.
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  Speaker 9: We still have that piece of the timeline that we
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  Speaker 9: don't know yet of what happened between when she sent
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  Speaker 9: her daughter up to bed to sleep with Stephen Stearns
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  Speaker 9: and then in the morning when he was seen with
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  Speaker 9: her inside that car.
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  Speaker 14: Did she have like Apple Watch walk Away.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe she's got a device.
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  Speaker 3: The only device she's.
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  Speaker 15: Got on right now is a school ofttop. It's not trackable.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think.
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  Speaker 15: I don't think something.
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  Speaker 4: Did she like have any places that you guys know
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  Speaker 4: that she would usually be at any friend's house, any
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  Speaker 4: places that like she had to hang out typically, No, she.
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  Speaker 9: Got dropped off. She was like, so she car so
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  Speaker 9: she didn't want to be.
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  Speaker 10: Dropped off at school.
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  Speaker 4: She wanted to be dropped off like half of black
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  Speaker 4: boys or she can walk in the face.
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  Speaker 10: But he dropped her off of a black away and
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  Speaker 10: drove away.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, did she middle school? Was walking in that direction?
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  Speaker 12: She was rifling through her backpack, slip her something thought
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  Speaker 12: maybe she was just looking her headphones before she got
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  Speaker 12: her walking on. Yeah, but she was just kind of,
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  Speaker 12: you know, shambling over in that direction.
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  Speaker 2: Looked the same as in the other morning.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's not true.
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  Speaker 3: He did not drop her off at PC United Methodist
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  Speaker 3: Church because she didn't want to be seen with parents
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  Speaker 3: or because she was embarrassed of the car. She was
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  Speaker 3: murdered and hidden behind a row of bamboo very thick.
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  Speaker 3: Her items were thrown into a dumpster, including her backpack
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  Speaker 3: and her school issued computer, and he Stephan Sterns was
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  Speaker 3: spotted at that dumpster. A male called in with the
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  Speaker 3: tips describing his vehicle and then he was outside the
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  Speaker 3: vehicle with a tire iron.
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  Speaker 6: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 16: Investigators believe the female seen at seven thirty six am
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  Speaker 16: and the surveillance video in the front passenger seat of
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  Speaker 16: Stephan Stern's vehicle is Madelinsoto's dead body propped up and
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  Speaker 16: buckled into the seat to appear as a living person,
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  Speaker 16: but closer inspection of the video shows her head leaning
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  Speaker 16: toward her shoulder with her mouth open. Stern's on surveillance
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  Speaker 16: video again at eight nineteen am, when he is seen
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  Speaker 16: entering the front security gate of the neighborhood with a
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  Speaker 16: female in the same position as the surveillance video captured
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  Speaker 16: at seven thirty six am too.
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  Speaker 3: Shannon Butler joining me WFTV, her dead body is propped
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  Speaker 3: up and buckled into the car. Did I get that right,
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  Speaker 3: Shannon Butler?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, And that was part of his story, right.
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  Speaker 9: So he goes in and out of that apartment complex,
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  Speaker 9: which they did in the morning on the way to school.
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  Speaker 9: So that way, if any of the neighbors or anything
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  Speaker 9: saw him drive out, it wouldn't be unusual for Madeline
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  Speaker 9: to be buckled into the seat. What he said to
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  Speaker 9: us and to investigators is that she slept on the
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  Speaker 9: way to school and she was asleep, I mean, according
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  Speaker 9: to investigators, buckled that seatbelt and let her sit there,
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  Speaker 9: leaned over.
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  Speaker 10: It's just unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: Really, I want you to hear the boyfriend, Stefan Stern,
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  Speaker 3: speaking to police and what a wild story he gives.
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  Speaker 3: Or mind me a little bit of top mom Casey Anthony,
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  Speaker 3: her her story kept changing and changing and getting.
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  Speaker 6: Bigger and bigger and bigger of a lie. Same here, listen,
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  Speaker 6: I had eight.
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  Speaker 17: Ten your car is seen going southbound at this intersection,
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  Speaker 17: so meaning going toward kissing me.
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  Speaker 12: I had forgotten. So I had forgotten my gay clicker.
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  Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I forgot. I had gone back to the
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  Speaker 12: house real quick after we left because I'd forgotten my
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  Speaker 12: gay clicker. I actually had to go through the front
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  Speaker 12: gate and use my parking pass to go on my clicker.
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  Speaker 12: So it was a wrong time. I'm sorry. Like I said,
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  Speaker 12: I was scustimating these times. I'm not a molling person.
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  Speaker 16: Investigators released information about Stephan Stearns and tracking the silver
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  Speaker 16: Lincoln he was driving, but now detectives say they tracked
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  Speaker 16: another vehicle, a white niece On owned by Maddie's mother, Jennifer,
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  Speaker 16: making an identical as was made in the Lincoln, from
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  Speaker 16: the apartment to where Maddie's body was found. Detectives don't
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  Speaker 16: get a clean look at the driver, but the Nissan
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  Speaker 16: was driven from the apartment to the body in the
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  Speaker 16: middle of the night, twelve hours after Stearns was seen
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  Speaker 16: driving his Lincoln to the same area.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, straight out to Shannon Butler, joining us, what can
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  Speaker 3: you tell me about mommy's car going to the location
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  Speaker 3: where Maddie's body is ultimately found.
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  Speaker 9: The running theory is that it was Stephen Sterns that
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  Speaker 9: went back to the alleged scene of that crime. But
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  Speaker 9: there is so much speculation and doubts surrounding Madeleine Soto's
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  Speaker 9: mother that it's hard for people not to question whether
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  Speaker 9: or not she was behind the wheel and went back
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  Speaker 9: down to that same location where Madeleinsoto's body was.
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  Speaker 10: Could it have been Jen Soto?
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  Speaker 3: There are sixty charges against the live in Stefan Stearns,
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  Speaker 3: many of them sex battery on a child, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: wondering if they're not getting a lot of that from
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  Speaker 3: his phone. Of course he said that morning he did
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  Speaker 3: a massive factory reset. Wow, that's quite the coincidence, Is
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  Speaker 3: it not that he does a factory reset on his
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  Speaker 3: phone the moment she goes missing on what are these
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  Speaker 3: sex battery on a child charges predicated?
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  Speaker 9: I think they knew the minute he reset that phone
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  Speaker 9: that they needed to get to that phone. When they
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  Speaker 9: downloaded it, there was horrific, horrific images, seventeen hundred images
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  Speaker 9: on that phone. That was at the moment they realized,
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  Speaker 9: you know, something was terribly wrong here.
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  Speaker 18: We were all going to sleep together in the same bed.
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  Speaker 18: But I needed some good sleep, and.
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  Speaker 8: I got a new job recently. I haven't been one rested.
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  Speaker 18: I needed from sleep, so I asked, Hey, can you
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  Speaker 18: guys go to the guest bedroom upstairs.
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  Speaker 8: I knew he was going to get her ready. I
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  Speaker 8: sent them upstairs, and I went to.
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  Speaker 1: Bed Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 8: I got a new job recently, I haven't been more arrested.
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  Speaker 18: I needed from sleep, so I asked, Hey, can you
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  Speaker 18: guys go to the guest bedroom upstairs.
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  Speaker 8: I knew he was going to get her ready. I
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  Speaker 8: sent them upstairs, and I went to bed.
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  Speaker 3: She sends her daughter to go sleep with her lover
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  Speaker 3: the night before she's dead. If you look at the timeline,
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  Speaker 3: can we just talk about that one moment, because I
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  Speaker 3: have a theory that Maddie was murdered by step On
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  Speaker 3: Stern the night before.
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  Speaker 6: Because we've got him the next morning seven seven thirty am.
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  Speaker 3: He's already throwing out Maddie's backpack and her school laptop.
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  Speaker 6: So why is he.
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  Speaker 3: Getting rid of her possessions At seven thirty a m.
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  Speaker 3: That means she's already dead. At seven point thirty a m.
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  Speaker 3: She's killed in the night and mommy, what just slept
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  Speaker 3: all the way through it? I mean analyzes the timeline
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  Speaker 3: for me, Shannon Butler.
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  Speaker 9: We know for a fact at seven point thirty that
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  Speaker 9: she was in fact at that is what the Orange
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  Speaker 9: County Sheriff's Office believed, the original investigators on this case.
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  Speaker 9: But those hours in the night, that's where all the
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  Speaker 9: question is. They believe she was killed, but they don't
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  Speaker 9: know exactly what time, and it seems the medical examiner
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  Speaker 9: can't figure that out either. But they do know that
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  Speaker 9: in those hours before seven thirty and after they went
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  Speaker 9: to bed, something happened there. The mother never woke up,
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  Speaker 9: she didn't see her daughter before she went to school,
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  Speaker 9: and because of that that is why it's so hard
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  Speaker 9: to pin an exact time. She told the original responding
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  Speaker 9: deputy that she did see her in the morning get
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  Speaker 9: ready for school.
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  Speaker 13: You said, when you woke up around nine. You left
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  Speaker 13: your house at nine thirty for your doctor's appointment, and
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  Speaker 13: Stephan hadn't come home yet, and then he called you
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  Speaker 13: at ten. You're a ten fifteen ten fifteenish.
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, She and want McDonald's and he came home. I
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  Speaker 18: think he had accidentally left his horn at home.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, so he was just.
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  Speaker 18: Letting me know because I had then I had called
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  Speaker 18: him multiple times that he was just returning to my call.
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  Speaker 2: Born.
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  Speaker 10: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 19: I left the worn at home.
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  Speaker 9: I went to the deep store. I waited there for
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  Speaker 9: a little bit and nothing. Nobody was there.
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  Speaker 17: When Madeleine's body was removed from underneath the dry grass
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  Speaker 17: and hay, detectives were able to immediately identify her by
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  Speaker 17: a mole she has on her cheek. Her body shows
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  Speaker 17: signs of decomposition to one side of her face and
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  Speaker 17: her hands. Madeleine is wearing a green hoodie with the
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  Speaker 17: hoodie covering the top of her head, blue jeans, and
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  Speaker 17: white socks. The police report notes that madeline socks were clean,
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  Speaker 17: indicating she did not walk anywhere or the socks would
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  Speaker 17: have dirt on the bottom. Someone carried Madeline to the
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  Speaker 17: place she was found.
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  Speaker 3: Shannon Butler joining us from WFTV nine. Where was she found?
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  Speaker 9: So this is a ranch in rural Osteola County. That
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  Speaker 9: area of Florida has you know, big cattle ranches, orange groves,
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  Speaker 9: things like that along that side of road. Remember, he
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  Speaker 9: got a flat tire, so he had to pull over
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  Speaker 9: and change that flat tire. Right in that area, there
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  Speaker 9: was one of those big ranches, but you can't get
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  Speaker 9: on the ranch because there was a big fence around it.
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  Speaker 9: So the only thing he could do, police.
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  Speaker 10: Say, was to toss her over.
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  Speaker 9: And when the detectives got out there, when they were
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  Speaker 9: searching looking in that area, they called the rancher said, hey,
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  Speaker 9: can you let us on the property? Says, no problem,
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  Speaker 9: right down the street. I'll be right there, And when
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  Speaker 9: they came in, she was actually the first time they looked,
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  Speaker 9: they didn't see her because she was kind of behind
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  Speaker 9: like bales of hay, and so they had to When
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  Speaker 9: they got through, they walked around and they could see
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  Speaker 9: that she was laying there in that wooded area.
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  Speaker 16: Stephen Stearns was arrested while the search for Madaline was ongoing.
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  Speaker 16: Win Orange County Sheriff's Office found disturbing evidence on Stern's phone.
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  Speaker 16: Stephen Stearns turns his phone over to the police to
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  Speaker 16: aid in the search for Madaline and tells them he
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  Speaker 16: accidentally did a factory reset on his phone the day
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  Speaker 16: Madaline vanished.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta show you this video we found of him
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  Speaker 3: in the backseat of the patrol cruiser where he's whining.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to this guy wine. He needs a little cheese
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  Speaker 3: to go with that wine. Listen, I took you there
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  Speaker 3: was like a three or two rover of the shirt.
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  Speaker 10: Wow, could regularly sleeping on the barren metal. First night
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  Speaker 10: it was on the concrete store of.
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  Speaker 2: The balls or the baker for the fellow.
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  Speaker 12: Nelson ells, make it for play head to sleep for
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  Speaker 12: two days.
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  Speaker 3: I love the guy driving the cruiser.
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  Speaker 6: Did you see me?
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  Speaker 3: He's going as he listens to accuse child rapist killer
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  Speaker 3: Stefan Stearn's whine it was like a degree or two
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  Speaker 3: lower than it should have been, and the deputy goes, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: I bet he just wants to ah.
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  Speaker 6: Stepan Stearns.
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  Speaker 16: During autopsy of Madeleine Soto, medical examiner doctor Stephen Giles
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  Speaker 16: express concern over Madeline's hyoid bone in her neck. Giles
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  Speaker 16: stated the right portion of the bone was not intact,
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  Speaker 16: which could possibly be related to her being strangled. The
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  Speaker 16: autopsy determined that Madeleine Soto died by strangulation.
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  Speaker 20: We can go even worse. She's pregnant. That's what questions
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  Speaker 20: last night led me to believe. When we started talking
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  Speaker 20: about her.
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  Speaker 19: Period, I was told that her and her friend and
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  Speaker 19: granted a male, never had a period, but that somebody
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  Speaker 19: found it weird that they were no longer in the
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  Speaker 19: same cycle. Could be different because she's a teenage girl.
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  Speaker 19: Could be that she missed her period. Have you ever
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  Speaker 19: found a pregnancy test at home that wasn't yours?
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  Speaker 20: I have two underneath the kitchen the bathroom sink, but
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  Speaker 20: I haven't seen.
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  Speaker 3: If there's a Larana Hannah mackenzie joining us Fox thirty five.
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  Speaker 3: She says, that's what questions last night led me to believe.
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  Speaker 3: When we started talking about her period. Who was talking
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  Speaker 3: about her period? Hannah McKenzie.
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  Speaker 5: Before the pregnancy test was even brought up, they were
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  Speaker 5: kept asking her about her cycle, about her period, and
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  Speaker 5: Jennifer is on camera saying I tracked her period. I
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  Speaker 5: knew when she was on her period. And the detective
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  Speaker 5: in the office at the time said, well, did you
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  Speaker 5: notice any feminine hygiene products being used in February? And
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  Speaker 5: Jennifer kind of sits back for a second and says, no,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't realize any feminine hygiene products were.
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  Speaker 10: Being used in February. I didn't notice that.
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  Speaker 3: Let's look at Mattie's room. Her room was essentially part
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  Speaker 3: of the downstairs living room, and it was essentially a
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  Speaker 3: bed cordoned off by this see through partition there on
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  Speaker 3: the bottom level of the home. Those boxers right there
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  Speaker 3: belonging to Stephan Stern, and that's Mattie's bedroom area. Those
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  Speaker 3: boxers in her laundry basket were pictured in the videos
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  Speaker 3: that were found on his phone.
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  Speaker 6: And then in the.
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  Speaker 3: Next photo you see her bedding Mattie Soto's betting, which
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  Speaker 3: also appeared in the sex molestation videos.
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  Speaker 6: On Stephan Stern's home.
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  Speaker 3: According to police, that betting proves happened in the home.
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  Speaker 3: So we now know that, according to police, and the
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  Speaker 3: murder happened in the home. We believe this is another
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  Speaker 3: room where Stephan STN's slept on occasion, and we know
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  Speaker 3: that the room where he slept with Mattie at her
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  Speaker 3: mother's direction, had a lock on the door, and I
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: mean not just the kind that go with the doorknob,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: full on locks. You were seeing crime scene photos that
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: we obtained from police files. And speaking of mom Jen
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Soto's response after Mattie first goes missing, this is what
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: she said when.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: You guys showed me the picture of her. I believe
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: the but I didn't want to believe that he had
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: done anything equal to her. I'm like, no, what if
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: she what if he did this stuff buying? But what
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: if she's still missing out there? What if somebody took her.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I still wanted to believe his I believed him. I
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: believed his whole story. So I'm just like, I kept
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: repeating that part. I'm just like, what if she did
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I dropped off? What if she got abducted? What if
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: she's missing?
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, Shannon Butler joining me, investigative reporter WFTV nine.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: Did I just hear Mommy correctly?
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: She says, when you showed me the picture of her,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: which I think is a euphemism for her boyfriend her
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: daughter and videoing it on his cell phone. I think
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: that's the picture that she's talking about.
• 20:46
  Speaker 15: What.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: I believe this sexual stuff, but I didn't.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Want to believe he had done anything evil to her.
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and you can hear from that interaction with those
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: deputies there was a lot of pause that they took,
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: even after we talked about this later on, about why
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: she didn't quite understand that what was happening there at
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: least in that interview was evil and was wrong.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: But that was me assuming that you guys had the
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: wrong guy. I wanted to think he was a good
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: guy still, but clearly he's not. After everything you guys
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: have told me and have shown me, I know he's
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: the worst person on this face of the earth right now.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I started saying to him, like, I think they're focusing
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: in on you, like we need to call your dad,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: and I think we need to.
• 21:33
  Speaker 20: Get you a lawyer.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I feel like they're focusing on the wrong person. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: he kept saying the same thing. He kept repeating what
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: I was repeating, They're focusing on the wrong person.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: How do you feel? What he said, he's a word.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: He didn't believe me, Like when I told him, why
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: don't you see forensics is closing down the house. They
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: know something or there's something, like they know something, something's happening.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: They wouldn't be locking down the house this way if
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: they didn't have suspicions of something. But in I I
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: wasn't thinking. I don't know why I wasn't thinking him like,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I was just like, no, they've got the wrong guy.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: And he ugly cried in front of the camera too,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: so he was face stop crying.
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: Are you saying that now or do you I'm saying
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: that now.
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: I didn't think that at the time.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: At the time, I thought he was truly heartbroken and
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: not that he had done all the year to her.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I look back at it now, I'm just like he
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: was lying.
• 22:36
  Speaker 14: He was baking.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: What else has he been lying to me about. I
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: know he's like a master liar manipulator because he's done.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: He's done it to his parents, and he's told me
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: and showing me the lies he's done to his parents.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: But I don't know why. I never thought, not me,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: But you.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Didn't know that that they did it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 19: Then you offered a guide who the police suspected, suspected
• 23:00
  Speaker 19: of kidnapping, abducting, assisting the disappearance from the lawyer, and
• 23:07
  Speaker 19: then we don't have to rhund table that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: You went back to what you just said is the
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: sex stuff is fine.
• 23:14
  Speaker 20: It's not fine.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I know it's an emotional thing, and I know it
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: sucks to hear.
• 23:22
  Speaker 19: But where I'm coming from is it seems like something
• 23:25
  Speaker 19: that you can't hide forever. You guys live in a
• 23:27
  Speaker 19: small space in close corners. You sleep in the same bed,
• 23:31
  Speaker 19: you guys all talk, you guys all share things. You're
• 23:34
  Speaker 19: an observant person for the most part, I assume outside
• 23:37
  Speaker 19: of taking medications and going to sleep, it seems very difficult.
• 23:41
  Speaker 19: A lot of grown adults can't hide in the fair
• 23:44
  Speaker 19: with somebody who doesn't live with them, let alone somebody
• 23:47
  Speaker 19: who does live with them.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: So at a certain point, I do believe you became
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: aware of what was going on.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: After she has been warned to tell the truth. They're
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: giving her immunity. This is what she says.
• 24:01
  Speaker 21: So now you've broken up with Stefan in December of
• 24:04
  Speaker 21: twenty twenty two, right, he's still paying rent and he's
• 24:09
  Speaker 21: there full time in bedroom number four. Is that where
• 24:12
  Speaker 21: he goes after you break up?
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: No, he stayed in my room for a few months.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: We've broken up, but we weren't sure how to discuss
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: it with Maddie cause it was the beginning or the
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: middle of the school year, and I didn't wanna affect
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: her in anyway MM, So we just played it off,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: acted like everything was normal and buying for the first
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: six months, and then eventually she caught on, and then
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: once she did, we admitted to her that we were
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: broken up and then yeah, at that point is when
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: he moved up to bedroom four.
• 24:38
  Speaker 21: Okay, it's my understanding that it's December of twenty twenty
• 24:42
  Speaker 21: two that he went Stefan kind of break up. Yes,
• 24:45
  Speaker 21: but he still remains in the town hall.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, Why is that so?
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Even though we were broken up, I still considered him
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: one of my best friends. I wanted to give him
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: the opportunity to live there, and he he had just
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: gotten a job at Disney The Mystery Will, okay, and
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I didn't want him to continue to lose that because
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: give been struggling.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: For a long time to get a job or do anything.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Of his own muntal health, Okay.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: So I just wanted to give him a chance to
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: do something, be something.
• 25:14
  Speaker 21: Once he moved up to bedroom for where there are
• 25:17
  Speaker 21: instances where Madeline would sleep alone upstairs with him.
• 25:21
  Speaker 22: I'm gonna say, I want you to think carefully before
• 25:25
  Speaker 22: he answer, because obviously we've gone through your phone and
• 25:28
  Speaker 22: we've seen all the conversations that you've had with Stefan,
• 25:31
  Speaker 22: so it's clear that that's occurring.
• 25:32
  Speaker 21: So I'm giving you the chance to answer the question.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how many times happened.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, the night that Jen at Soto's condo is searched,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: she and Stearns have to get out.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: So where do they go. They go to a hotel
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: along with Stearns's parents. Listen what happens in the middle
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: of the night.
• 25:55
  Speaker 23: We checked into the rooms, I brought my stuff up,
• 25:58
  Speaker 23: went over to good night, and then hit the sack.
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: After you guys went to your separate wings. When's the
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: next time you talked me?
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: To seven?
• 26:07
  Speaker 23: I got up at six thirty anously and went to
• 26:10
  Speaker 23: the office because I figured he'd be sleeping in, crashed
• 26:13
  Speaker 23: and burned and didn't speak to Gin until ten forty
• 26:19
  Speaker 23: five fish and she called and asked if Stephan was
• 26:24
  Speaker 23: with me, and I said no, Why, well, he's not here.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Here's Stephan Stearn's explanation of why he was missing for
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: three hundred miles. Okay, that's several hours driving through Florida
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the night. Listen, Well, he had
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: an energy drink in his hands.
• 26:46
  Speaker 23: He said, he got lost, you know in the back rows. Hell,
• 26:50
  Speaker 23: I got lost and I had a GPS.
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: So, like my party said, we're not here. Which time
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: you've been in this line of work before.
• 26:55
  Speaker 24: Did he tell you he was in Northport today?
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming he faced.
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: Under the action.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: So what does steph on Sterens' mother, Debor have to
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: say when she finds out he showed up at her
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: house one hundred and fifty miles away in the middle
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: of the night to log onto her Wi Fi and
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: delete photos.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: Listen, you know what?
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: You know what stopped you from getting in the house.
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: He didn't have a garage store opener.
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: The front thar lock is not working well, yeah, and
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: I had I had put the.
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: Luck on the slider.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Now, speaking of his walk about gone six hours in
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the middle of the night while Maddie is apparently missing.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: This is what Steph on STN's has to say happened
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: that night?
• 27:42
  Speaker 25: Is there some explanation of the I came up Wednesday
• 27:46
  Speaker 25: morning next at the hotel early in the morning, and
• 27:50
  Speaker 25: is there some explanation why you rest and went where
• 27:53
  Speaker 25: you went?
• 27:54
  Speaker 26: I was driving around.
• 27:56
  Speaker 15: I had wanted to grab a few stags and get
• 28:00
  Speaker 15: my ducks in a row, kind of prepare myself for
• 28:03
  Speaker 15: whatever was coming. But I couldn't find what I was
• 28:06
  Speaker 15: looking for, and then I ended up just kind of
• 28:08
  Speaker 15: driving around nameless me you.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Were hearing a video call from behind bars. This is
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: what father Christopher Stearns has to say.
• 28:19
  Speaker 23: Look, he spent a lifetime lying to us, okay, and
• 28:23
  Speaker 23: it's just never gotten better. Before I left the house
• 28:25
  Speaker 23: the other night, I turn to my wife and the city.
• 28:28
  Speaker 23: Do we really know Stefan? Can we honestly say we
• 28:31
  Speaker 23: really know? And she got really kind of offended defensive
• 28:36
  Speaker 23: a little bit.
• 28:37
  Speaker 24: I said, I'm not saying that he did something, but can.
• 28:39
  Speaker 23: We honestly say we really know that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 18: I've always told him that my biggest fear is that
• 28:43
  Speaker 18: this would turn into a Woody Allen situation where the
• 28:47
  Speaker 18: stepdaughter follower, the jad grooms the child, and the child
• 28:51
  Speaker 18: turns eighteen running away with him. I told him that
• 28:54
  Speaker 18: that was my biggest fear and I don't ever want
• 28:56
  Speaker 18: that happening.
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: Like, you can't do that to me.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Like, so we go back to twenty.
• 29:01
  Speaker 19: We're looking at a minimum of three and a half years,
• 29:05
  Speaker 19: three and a half years where I'm sure you.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Guys are sexually active. Yes, So for three and.
• 29:14
  Speaker 19: A half years under your care and your house, not
• 29:18
  Speaker 19: only is he being sexually active with you and had
• 29:20
  Speaker 19: a sexual.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Relationship with.
• 29:29
  Speaker 27: Crime stories with Nancy Gray straight out to Shannon Butler
• 29:35
  Speaker 27: joining US investigative reporter to FTV Channel nine in Florida,
• 29:40
  Speaker 27: where this happened, Shannon Butler, those little gulps should have
• 29:48
  Speaker 27: happened when she first thought she had a quote Woody Allen,
• 29:54
  Speaker 27: situation between her living boyfriend Stephan Stearns and her little
• 30:00
  Speaker 27: girl then twelve.
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, early on in this investigation, when we first talked
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: to investigators right after those interviews, just hours after those interviews,
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: they felt the tears and the anguish was much more
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: about Stephan Stearns and what was going on there than
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: about her daughter, and that always troubled those investigators early
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: on in those interviews there.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I want you to see new video that we have
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: obtained of the defendant, Stephan Stearns, acting out how Maddie
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: was asleep in his car.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: She's gonna say, do you think she was just asleep?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: She was just reclined in the chair sleeping. Hey explain
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to me like reclining backwards.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Nice?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: Go ahead to turn around hand and wall put your
• 31:03
  Speaker 11: hands behind your back.
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: Did you get a really good picture.
• 31:07
  Speaker 20: Of this right here, this whole area?
• 31:16
  Speaker 14: Were you expecting these charges now? The murder charge. Well, okay,
• 31:25
  Speaker 14: so you got blindsided by that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 26: Yeah, obviously that you know it's not true. You know
• 31:32
  Speaker 26: I never would have wanted her go to any reason,
• 31:34
  Speaker 26: So you know, premeditated first degree is kind of a
• 31:38
  Speaker 26: kind of a kick punch.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I want you to hear the dad asking how did
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: this whole thing come about? As Stephan Stearns essentially says,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: she started it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 14: Listen, you know you and I can have a conversation
• 31:54
  Speaker 14: that all of us could have a conversation to understand
• 31:58
  Speaker 14: what what's taken place, how how this came about, how
• 32:02
  Speaker 14: how you arrived here, because it would help us, help
• 32:06
  Speaker 14: us better understand the situation, because we're just rather lost
• 32:12
  Speaker 14: her understanding how all this came about. I mean, it
• 32:18
  Speaker 14: was just totally totally baffled.
• 32:20
  Speaker 26: Well when they started.
• 32:23
  Speaker 14: You didn't start it, but you participated in it, which
• 32:26
  Speaker 14: is just as that is not starting it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 15: But some woman got on a YouTube thing and said
• 32:31
  Speaker 15: that you weren't.
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: Even at the party party, Yeah, her birthday party.
• 32:39
  Speaker 26: Yeah, I hadn't gotten there yet. I went up there
• 32:41
  Speaker 26: Sunday evening and got there after she was done at
• 32:44
  Speaker 26: her party.
• 32:46
  Speaker 14: I'm ok, thanks, And it was we were very.
• 32:49
  Speaker 26: Happy that I was there with the were very happy with.
• 32:51
  Speaker 15: The history of us, were together. It was shaking up.
• 32:53
  Speaker 26: To be a great week and a great visit.
• 32:55
  Speaker 14: You know, there was.
• 32:56
  Speaker 15: There's no reason crazing to happen.
• 32:58
  Speaker 26: That happened.
• 33:04
  Speaker 15: I think they do it just a mess with the Honestly,
• 33:06
  Speaker 15: this place is filthy and undertand carrying one little thins
• 33:10
  Speaker 15: factory will blanket surrounded like crazies all the time.
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: Well, it's not the rits.
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: Not the rits.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: You're charged with murder, Stephan Stearns, the murder of a
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: fourteen year old little girl. Hello, I know you're watching
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: the jailhouse TV on your phone. According to police, thousands
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: of images of fourteen year old Mattie's Soto were found naked,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: being raped and more. Okay, that's you, and now you're
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: complaining about your mattress, going so far as to give
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: the jail a one star review on yelp.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: What are you thinking?
• 33:55
  Speaker 15: Just seeing her pale face and through lifts and how
• 33:58
  Speaker 15: I was cold she was It's great, I stay, yeah,
• 34:03
  Speaker 15: that's definitely.
• 34:04
  Speaker 14: I remember seeing my my brother when he had passed away,
• 34:07
  Speaker 14: and this the last thing I remember seeing of him.
• 34:12
  Speaker 15: So there noses you can tell, Yes, you can, my dad. Yeah,
• 34:21
  Speaker 15: it's just when they're gone, really really truly gone, It's
• 34:26
  Speaker 15: just there's nothing you can do just coming back.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Well, you could get the death penalty, you could do that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: But whoa whoa, whoa whoa wo Okay with me, an
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: all star pound makes sense of what I'm hearing.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: And I've got a ton of these jail house calls.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I can even get through them
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: all because each one is a bombshell.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: This is going to be hard. But Joe Scott Morgan,
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: Professor Forensics.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: One word, what was this girl's cod cause of death?
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: One word?
• 34:52
  Speaker 24: Yeah, it was strangulation Nancy up close and personal with
• 34:56
  Speaker 24: his hands wrapped around her neck.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: You know, Stepan, I can't help forget the feeling that
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: none of this that was on the phone with a surprise.
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: She was aware that had certain feelings towards me. Yeah,
• 35:12
  Speaker 15: well then why considering to sleep with you. She used
• 35:15
  Speaker 15: to joke about it, you know, call it an electric complex.
• 35:19
  Speaker 15: He used to joke, wasn't you better not leave me
• 35:22
  Speaker 15: for my daughter when she's older? Things like tax laugh
• 35:26
  Speaker 15: about it, and they's both ogal over me and comments
• 35:29
  Speaker 15: on me and talk about me together and giggle and
• 35:34
  Speaker 15: talk about how nice I loved and it was. It
• 35:38
  Speaker 15: was not an appropriate situation.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Now Here, he seems to blame Maddie's murder on lack
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: of boundaries and poor quote sleeping arrangements.
• 35:53
  Speaker 14: Listen, No, I.
• 35:54
  Speaker 15: Always had an issue with boundaries. She never respected any
• 35:59
  Speaker 15: boundary that I tried to say. You know, he'd gotten
• 36:02
  Speaker 15: argument on more than one occasion about the sleeping arrangements.
• 36:05
  Speaker 15: How I, you know, would bake her, you know, please
• 36:07
  Speaker 15: may go sleep her own room and said one nose,
• 36:10
  Speaker 15: he's here this way for me to wake her up
• 36:11
  Speaker 15: when she'd hear me.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: And what is Stephan Starng's response?
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: He says, no one respected my boundaries and then he.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Blames the whole thing.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Because Jen is so too didn't give him any privacy.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: You have got to hear this.
• 36:34
  Speaker 15: We didn't have any privacy and you know, just get
• 36:37
  Speaker 15: have any space for ourselves. And she said this, well
• 36:40
  Speaker 15: maybe you should go sleep. Medie statements like, you know,
• 36:42
  Speaker 15: it's like a twin bed and I'm you know, six
• 36:45
  Speaker 15: plus feet and no, why would I want to do
• 36:49
  Speaker 15: that instead of sleeping our King's highs begging us.
• 36:52
  Speaker 26: We should have broken up for a long time ago.
• 36:55
  Speaker 15: We were all very happy to you reunited anything months.
• 36:58
  Speaker 26: If we'd all seen each other.
• 36:59
  Speaker 15: And there's no reason that I would have taken all
• 37:02
  Speaker 15: of that up for literally no reason to hurt her
• 37:04
  Speaker 15: and treated always for this.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: No, there isn't.
• 37:08
  Speaker 15: But there's jealousy on the other side too. I mean,
• 37:11
  Speaker 15: he told you, I hope you don't need you've heard
• 37:14
  Speaker 15: my daughter. That tells me that she was thinking about
• 37:16
  Speaker 15: that for a while.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: We hear Stephan Stearns and mother Deborah Stearns stating Jen
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Soto had been thinking about this for a long time.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: They're basically trying to blame Jen Soto for her daughter's murder.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: Guys, there's more of Stephan Stearn's whining.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: And I haven't even gotten him whining about his mattress
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: and the food.
• 37:43
  Speaker 15: So far.
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: He's been blaming Jen Soto for Maddie's death. And we're all.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Angry that Gen Soto allowed a situation where her daughter
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: slept night after night after night with her mooch living boyfriend.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: But to blame her for the murder itself is a
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: whole another thing, And that sounds like what he and
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: his mommy and daddy are cooking up. Remember the mommy
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: and the daddy not charged with anything. Oh and I
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: haven't even got to them. Claiming that he has PTSD because.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: He found the body. I mean, really, but that said,
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: listen to this.
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  Speaker 15: I wish I had done the correct thing to begin with.
• 38:23
  Speaker 15: I wish I would run downstairs and shaken her awake
• 38:27
  Speaker 15: and cold, nine one one and all that, and deserved
• 38:31
  Speaker 15: the wish she had too. I wish he had too.
• 38:34
  Speaker 16: Maybe she could have done things, but you.
• 38:36
  Speaker 26: Know she was she was beyond that.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: Listen to the new theory emerge.
• 38:43
  Speaker 15: He was in a different part of the house.
• 38:46
  Speaker 26: Yeah, she wasn't with you.
• 38:49
  Speaker 15: Well, she had going to be with me earlier in
• 38:53
  Speaker 15: the night, but I left her alone her quite a while.
• 38:58
  Speaker 25: Were you awake when she was her into the room
• 39:02
  Speaker 25: with you?
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and she was fine.
• 39:04
  Speaker 14: When she came into your room. What what not at night?
• 39:07
  Speaker 15: Was that hating eleven inch or so? I'm not sure?
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, so she was fine.
• 39:12
  Speaker 25: So what happened between eleven and whenever you found it?
• 39:16
  Speaker 14: Oh?
• 39:17
  Speaker 15: That's the manly old question, isn't it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 26: Oh?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: The devil is in the detailed stern, Please keep talking
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: listen to this.
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  Speaker 15: Well, I discovered her in the in the state that
• 39:34
  Speaker 15: she was in after everything was said and done. So
• 39:36
  Speaker 15: I mean, I get obviously I can't get into detail.
• 39:38
  Speaker 15: But no, I was not aware that she had passed on.
• 39:45
  Speaker 15: And you know, I'm up and down throughout the night
• 39:47
  Speaker 15: and I was not in the room the whole time.
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: Mm hmm.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: So he wasn't aware she was passed on, yet he
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: found her a call to the touch with her lips blue.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: Now the dad realizes this story is not yelling.
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: Listen, It's not like you.
• 40:04
  Speaker 15: You know, you just suddenly feel someone's goes to pass
• 40:07
  Speaker 15: away from them. You know, it's it's a discovery. Well,
• 40:10
  Speaker 15: I'm assuming that they are treating you for PTSD because
• 40:14
  Speaker 15: you found the body, not to mention everything else that
• 40:18
  Speaker 15: went along with that. No, not treating me for anything
• 40:22
  Speaker 15: except my blood pressure. Well they needed to do the
• 40:26
  Speaker 15: PTSD because you're not sleeping. Wow. You know, I keep
• 40:34
  Speaker 15: telling myself that I have to maintain my face, self,
• 40:37
  Speaker 15: chase and rust in God. I have nothing.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: Now listen to this. Does anybody know the meaning of narcissist?
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: Here we hear step On.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Stearns asking his parents to dump money into an account
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: for a trust fund for him for him after they die.
• 40:56
  Speaker 15: Shall prospect it's going to be difficult to come by
• 40:59
  Speaker 15: and might need sort of police forces to help me
• 41:01
  Speaker 15: get that company seat immediately and so they can work
• 41:03
  Speaker 15: out the unco situation.
• 41:06
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I don't know what that would be, but because
• 41:10
  Speaker 14: maybe maybe we may be gone by the time you get.
• 41:13
  Speaker 15: Out, I know, I don't know if a way we
• 41:16
  Speaker 15: might be able to sit up to sort of trust
• 41:18
  Speaker 15: truck or something.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Scott Morgan, have you seen it all now? Stefan Stearns
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: once a trust fund set up my mommy and daddy.
• 41:26
  Speaker 24: Yeah. One of the most glaring things is that when
• 41:28
  Speaker 24: his dad actually said, well we might be gone, did
• 41:33
  Speaker 24: you hear that? And then he just continues on with
• 41:37
  Speaker 24: this through line of all about him. He didn't pause
• 41:41
  Speaker 24: for a moment and say, well, my god, that that's horrible.
• 41:45
  Speaker 24: Please don't say that dad, that you're gonna be gone,
• 41:48
  Speaker 24: or that mom is going to be gone, and that's
• 41:50
  Speaker 24: not what it's about. That shows you the level of callousness.
• 41:53
  Speaker 24: And he's doing this to his parents. How much more so,
• 41:57
  Speaker 24: how much more so Nancy, teen year old little girl
• 42:01
  Speaker 24: that he's been victimizing allegedly lo these many years. He's
• 42:07
  Speaker 24: that callous. He's that very callous. He's not genetically connected
• 42:11
  Speaker 24: to her, Nancy. He just views her as something that
• 42:14
  Speaker 24: is disposable, and as we found out, she was kind
• 42:18
  Speaker 24: of tossed away like rubbish, wasn't she.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Maddie Soto.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: Was not disposable.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: We remember American hero Deputy Sheriff can Terrast Taylor, bib
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: County Sheriff's killed in the line of duty, survived by
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: grieving fiance Jamisa Children killing London Carter. American hero Deputy
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Sheriff Canterras Taylor.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: Thank you to all of our guests for being with us,
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: but especially to you, Nancy Ray.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Signing off, I'll see you tomorrow night, and until then,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: good night friend,