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Mark Belling Podcast #141: Evers tries to play King-maker in the chaotic Democrat Governor; race will the NO KINGS voters go along? Can David Crowley be a credible anointed one after he had already dropped out? And, is "The Odyssey" the unlikeliest movie blockbuster ever? Is "The Iliad" next? · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: All this chaos, this debacle that is the Democratic primary
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  Speaker 2: for governor Wisconsin, there's one explanation for all of it,
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  Speaker 2: all of it, and that is Wisconsin Democrats do not
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  Speaker 2: want to leave this decision to actual voters. The party
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  Speaker 2: that's been screaming for two years, no kings, no kings,
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  Speaker 2: no kings. They want to do king making. The people
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  Speaker 2: who talk forever about threats to democracy, they are terrified
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  Speaker 2: of allowing democracy to pick their candidate for governor. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why all of this has happened, all of it.
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  Speaker 2: Some states have already had their primaries. Others, like Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 2: the primary is still the cub For those of you
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  Speaker 2: outside of Wisconsin, there have been other states in which
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  Speaker 2: there's been chaos going on. By the way, in all
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  Speaker 2: almost all cases on the Democratic side, not all, but
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  Speaker 2: almost all, but the one here in Wisconsin is really revealing.
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  Speaker 2: You now have the anointed candidate for governor on the
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  Speaker 2: Democratic side being somebody who only a week earlier dropped
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  Speaker 2: out of the race because of total lack of support
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  Speaker 2: from anyone. The fact that it only took a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks, a little over a week to get from
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  Speaker 2: point A to point B where we are right now.
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  Speaker 2: This is fascinating stuff. So here's the background, and there
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be even much dispute, I think from Democrats on
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  Speaker 2: this background. From the beginning, the front runner and the
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  Speaker 2: race has been one of the least known but certainly
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  Speaker 2: farthest left of the candidate's running Francesca Hag She's a
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  Speaker 2: member of the state Legislature from Madison. She represents a
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  Speaker 2: really lefty district. She ran as a Marxist, got elected
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  Speaker 2: as a Marxist, and a year in which Marxist or
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  Speaker 2: as they call themselves, democratic socialists, are winning everything across
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  Speaker 2: the board in Democratic primary, she decided to winner the
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  Speaker 2: race for governor. Initially, she was not taken seriously because
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  Speaker 2: there were certainly better known candidates running. You had the
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  Speaker 2: sitting lieutenant governor the era parents Sar Rodriguez running. You
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  Speaker 2: had Mendela Barnes, who was the former lieutenant governor and
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  Speaker 2: was their statewide candidate for the United States Senate. You
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  Speaker 2: had the county executive of the largest county in the state,
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  Speaker 2: and a few others. There was simply very little reason
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  Speaker 2: to believe that one little state assembly woman from one
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  Speaker 2: of ninety nine districts would catapult to the lead. But
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  Speaker 2: she did. She catapulted to the lead because of the
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  Speaker 2: remarkable ability of leftists to use social media to tell
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  Speaker 2: their minions who to support, and they've decided to support
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  Speaker 2: Francesca Han And I've been commenting on this for several
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  Speaker 2: months that are the Democrats really going to put up
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  Speaker 2: in Marxist for governor? And they weren't doing anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: And then a few weeks ago they commissioned an internal poll.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to do polling prior to now because hardly
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  Speaker 2: anybody pays any attention to these races. Only political activists
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  Speaker 2: do until you get to a few weeks before the election,
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  Speaker 2: and the election in Wisconsin in the middle of August,
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  Speaker 2: and they commissioned this poll and it showed that if
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  Speaker 2: Francesco Hang is the Democratic nominee, she will be clabbered
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  Speaker 2: by the Republican candidate Tom Tiffany. Furthermore, when the question,
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  Speaker 2: as I'm told by Democrats, when the question Democrats were
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  Speaker 2: trying to stop hauling. When the question was asked generically,
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  Speaker 2: if the Democratic candidate is a socialist and the Republicans
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  Speaker 2: run a conservative, a mega conservative, who would you support?
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  Speaker 2: And the socialists got cloppered. When they changed the question
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  Speaker 2: to a mainstream Democrat, the Democrats actually were prevailing. So
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic leadership realized, we have to stop hauling or
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  Speaker 2: we're going to lose. Now understand why this is. First
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  Speaker 2: of all, the governor Wisconsin is such an important position.
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  Speaker 2: They appoint all the agent almost all the agency heads.
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  Speaker 2: They appoint even the state boards that they don't fully control.
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  Speaker 2: Every judicial vacancy in the state, from state Supreme Court
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  Speaker 2: down to county Circuit Court is filled by appointment by
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  Speaker 2: a Democratic governor, and the Democratic governor. The governor Wisconsin
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  Speaker 2: Democratic Republican has the most expansive veto powers of any
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  Speaker 2: state of the Union. So it's a big deal anyway,
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  Speaker 2: But for Democrats it's an even bigger deal because who
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  Speaker 2: do you think staffs and runs all these agencies of
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  Speaker 2: the massive bureaucracy of state government. Democrats, if they lose
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  Speaker 2: the election, they lose all of those gigs and the
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  Speaker 2: ability to funnel studies and commission work and all of
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  Speaker 2: this to their buddies. Even the University of Wisconsin system,
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  Speaker 2: the majority of the board of regents are appointed by
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  Speaker 2: who the governor, So losing the governorship there's a reason
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  Speaker 2: why they hated Scott Walker. It was mostly because he won.
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  Speaker 2: He beat them, He beat them twice, and he beat
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  Speaker 2: them in a recall election. They can't stand not having this,
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  Speaker 2: and as they become more and more dependent on living
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  Speaker 2: their lives being paid by government directly or indirectly, winning
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  Speaker 2: these elections for president and governors becoming even more important.
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  Speaker 2: They can't afford to lose, and it would be horrifying
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  Speaker 2: for them to lose in twenty six. Now we don't
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  Speaker 2: know how this is going to play out, but if
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  Speaker 2: twenty six is like most off year elections, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a big national year for the Democrats. I
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  Speaker 2: think thirty nine of the last forty one off your elections,
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  Speaker 2: the majority the party that did the best was the
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  Speaker 2: party that did not control the White House. Sometimes it's
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  Speaker 2: a landslide, and sometimes it's only a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a dribevik victory, but usually the party that doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: the White House does well in the off your elections
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  Speaker 2: and for the and Wisconsin's governor's race is always in
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  Speaker 2: and off your race. President is you know four eight, twelve, sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to twenty eight in Wisconsin's governor's two, six, ten,
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  Speaker 2: twenty two, twenty six thirty, it's on So to lose
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  Speaker 2: this race and what it's expected to be a big
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  Speaker 2: win at the back of Democratic candidates, So it as me,
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  Speaker 2: especially night Marrish. So they've sized this up and they
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  Speaker 2: realized we have to do something about hang Right now,
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  Speaker 2: Hawng's going to win the primary and she's going to
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  Speaker 2: lose the election. Furthermore, we know that in Wisconsin there
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  Speaker 2: is overwhelming party line voting, with only one or two exceptions.
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  Speaker 2: When the Democrats win the governorship, they win the attorney
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  Speaker 2: generalship and vice versa with the Republicans, and then all
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  Speaker 2: the down ballot races state Assembly, state Senate. The top
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  Speaker 2: of the ticket in Wisconsin, especially given that we don't
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  Speaker 2: have a Senate race this year, the governorship is the
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  Speaker 2: big deal. So they've now figured it, we got to
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  Speaker 2: get rid of Hang, and they strategized accordingly, most Democratic
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  Speaker 2: voters are not socialists. If we can just get this
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  Speaker 2: down to well, one on one race with somebody else
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  Speaker 2: against Hang, we can beat her. But if seven candidates run,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what it initially was, she could win this
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  Speaker 2: thing with thirty three percent of the vote. So we've
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  Speaker 2: got to get as many of the non socialists out.
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  Speaker 2: They had a separate problem. The other candidate that does
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  Speaker 2: poorly in a one on one matchup with Tom Tiffany
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  Speaker 2: is Mendela bars He does better than Hong did, but
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  Speaker 2: Barnes is a proven statewide loser on an election. As
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  Speaker 2: I've tried to explain to Republicans in the past, if
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  Speaker 2: you lose a state wide election, you're likely to lose
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  Speaker 2: it again. People don't tend to change their minds about
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  Speaker 2: people now. In this case with Barnes, it's a different
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  Speaker 2: job that he's running for, which makes it slightly different,
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  Speaker 2: but still and Barnes has a bag of skeletons in
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  Speaker 2: his closet. So the Democrats don't want it to be
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  Speaker 2: Hong and they don't want it to be Barnes. So
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  Speaker 2: what do they do. Rather than actually they go out
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  Speaker 2: and trying to knock down the support of Hong by
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  Speaker 2: criticizing her, they instead apply pressure on other candidates to
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  Speaker 2: get out of the race, figuring that if they get
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  Speaker 2: out of the race, their supporters will mostly back the
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  Speaker 2: one non Houng candidate remaining. So the first one they
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  Speaker 2: got out of the race is Missy Hughes. She probably,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, was the most qualified of all the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats running. She's a Madison lefty, but one that has
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  Speaker 2: been very competent. She was a member of the Evers cabinet.
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  Speaker 2: I think she was hoping that Evers would endorse her,
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  Speaker 2: but he didn't. She wasn't able to raise a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money. She didn't have any name recognition. She bought
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  Speaker 2: out of the race and immediately endorsed Sarah Rodriguez the
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  Speaker 2: lieutenant governor. That was the first signal that the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: were going to try to get everybody to back Rodriguez,
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  Speaker 2: that Rodriguez was the one that they chose to anoint
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  Speaker 2: as the alternative to Hank. The next chew to drop
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  Speaker 2: David Crowley, the Milwaukee County executive, also dropped out of
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  Speaker 2: the race. He was doing very poorly in Democratic polls.
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  Speaker 2: He was around five percent, and despite the fact that
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  Speaker 2: he probably is the office, certainly is the most powerful
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  Speaker 2: of the seven Democrats that were running. Lieutenant Governor's a
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  Speaker 2: nothing job, Mendela Barnes, I don't think has a job.
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  Speaker 2: Francesco Hanks just a little member of the State Assembly,
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  Speaker 2: David Hanks, a county executive of the largest county in
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  Speaker 2: the state of Wisconsin. But he was spinning his wheels
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  Speaker 2: and going nowhere, so he dropped out and he endorsed Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 2: See you see what the master plan here is. There
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  Speaker 2: were two remaining Democrats that come from this general mainstream
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  Speaker 2: of the party that were still in the race. But
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  Speaker 2: the goal, I think would have been to get all
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  Speaker 2: of them out as well. So you've got Crowley out
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  Speaker 2: and Hughes out, and they're all endorsing Sarah Rodriguez. The
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  Speaker 2: one thing that wasn't happening for Sarah Rodriguez is the
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  Speaker 2: most prominent Democrat in the state of Wisconsin. Evers, the
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  Speaker 2: outgoing governor, would not endorse her. If if people ask
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  Speaker 2: me why, that's simple. They can't stand each other. More directly,
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  Speaker 2: Evers's top staffers can't stand Rodriguez. I've heard differing views
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  Speaker 2: as to what happened, but it all had to do
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  Speaker 2: was when Sarah was a let you know, Vandella Barnes
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  Speaker 2: was lieutenant governor chose not to run for a second
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  Speaker 2: term because he chose instead to run against Ron Johnson
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  Speaker 2: for the United States Senate four years ago. So there's
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  Speaker 2: an open Democratic primary. Rodriguez wanted for lieutenant governor and
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  Speaker 2: then she he therefore served on a ticket with Evers.
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  Speaker 2: They won. What I'm told is Rodriguez showed no delicacy
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  Speaker 2: in just coming in and demanding of Evers that she'd
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  Speaker 2: be given a lot of responsibilities. Most lieutenant governors have
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  Speaker 2: given no responsibilities, and they're just in the four years
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  Speaker 2: of her lieutenant governorship, Evers gave her nothing to do.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't like each other anyway, so she didn't have that.
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  Speaker 2: But she was anointed, and the belief was that the
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  Speaker 2: mainstream Democrat partre donor it's the big money, would come
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  Speaker 2: in in a last minute blitz for Rodriguez with the
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  Speaker 2: wink wink, nod nod of Democrat officials. We want Sarah
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  Speaker 2: to be the candidates. She's the one we want. She's
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  Speaker 2: the one we don't want. We don't want Hang, and
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  Speaker 2: we don't want Medela Bards. And then, of course it's
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  Speaker 2: amazing how bats this happened. Sarah Rodriguez absolutely imploded the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats in their first round of king making in this case,
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  Speaker 2: Queen Making endorsed Sarahor without being up to speed on
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  Speaker 2: a how dumb she is and b how awful her
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  Speaker 2: campaign was. Remember there were seven candidates running hard in
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  Speaker 2: that kind of environment to raise money. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: the big Democrat donors want to wait until the primary
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  Speaker 2: is over. Secondly, they don't want to waste money by
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  Speaker 2: backing a loser. If you're gonna give money, correct candidate
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  Speaker 2: for governor, you wanted to give it to somebody who's
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  Speaker 2: gonna win, and nobody's getting a strong feel for who
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  Speaker 2: was ahead out of this other than everybody knew Hoong
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  Speaker 2: was doing. So anyway, Sarah wasn't raising any money, but
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  Speaker 2: she thought she was. She thought she had a million
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  Speaker 2: dollars in the bank, because that's what her campaign manager
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  Speaker 2: told her. Now, I don't want to go too much
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  Speaker 2: over the past because I got to get to the president.
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  Speaker 2: But it's almost impossible to believe that a candidate for
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  Speaker 2: governor did not know that instead of having a million
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  Speaker 2: dollars in a bank the bank, she had like no
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  Speaker 2: dollars in the bank. The reason for that is the
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  Speaker 2: thing that candidates do all day that they're not on
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  Speaker 2: the campaign trial is they work the phones and worked
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  Speaker 2: the emails, contacting individual donors asking for money. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: just telling you, somebody has been around politicians my whole life.
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  Speaker 2: They all know who gives, and they all know how
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  Speaker 2: much they give. They take that very seriously. Lifelong friendships
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  Speaker 2: have been lost when a candidate asked somebody for money
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  Speaker 2: and they found out not only that would they not
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  Speaker 2: give it to them, but they gave it to the opponent. Somehow.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah Rodriguez wasn't even looking to see who was giving
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  Speaker 2: her money and how much, because if she had, she
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  Speaker 2: would have seen that the donations didn't add up to
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  Speaker 2: a million dollars, and in fact, her campaign manager was
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  Speaker 2: reporting a single donation multiple times to fatten the number.
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  Speaker 2: The only explanation that makes any sense is that the
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  Speaker 2: campaign manager was trying to cover up how terrible she
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  Speaker 2: was doing and raising money and was lying to Sarah
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  Speaker 2: about how much money she raised. So anyway, Sarah discovered this,
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  Speaker 2: fired the campaign manager. The story went public, and Sarah
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  Speaker 2: quickly became a laughing sig. Within five days, she dropped
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  Speaker 2: out of the race. She dropped out of the race
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  Speaker 2: because she was told, in no uncertain terms by other Democrats,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to get out of the race. There's no
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  Speaker 2: way you're going to win the primary. Now. You can't
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  Speaker 2: be the one who stops Francesca Haung. Nobody's going to
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  Speaker 2: vote for you. You look ridiculous. So she drops out
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  Speaker 2: of the race. So the Democratic boy since there once
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  Speaker 2: again back to square one, we've got to find somebody
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  Speaker 2: to be the annoying candidate to run against Francesca hagg
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  Speaker 2: They sized up the ones that were still in the race.
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  Speaker 2: One of them is Joel Brennan. Joel Brennan is the
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  Speaker 2: head of the Greater Milwaukee Committee. Before that he worked
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  Speaker 2: in the Evers administration, and before that he ran Discovery World.
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  Speaker 2: He is a mainstream Democrat and kind of in a
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  Speaker 2: democratic way, sort of competent, just like you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think like the Tom Barrett kind of confident. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, none of them are ever going to be
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  Speaker 2: rocket scientist, but he'd be like a technocratic democratic governor
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  Speaker 2: from the kind of center left wing of the party.
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  Speaker 2: But he's been going nowhere. He's not been able to
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  Speaker 2: raise much money, he's been languishing in the polls, and
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  Speaker 2: he has terrible name recognition, so they chose not to
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  Speaker 2: pick Brennan. You've got Mendela Barnes in there, well, they
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  Speaker 2: don't want him. And then you have Kell de Roy,
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  Speaker 2: Senator from Madison. She's very far to the left, but
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  Speaker 2: not quite as far to the left as Hang And
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  Speaker 2: I think that the thought process there is, if we're
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  Speaker 2: going to choose a radical, we may what's the point
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  Speaker 2: of replacing one radical with another radical? So they go
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  Speaker 2: back to where they were in the first place, and
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  Speaker 2: suddenly David Crowley, who dropped out of the race, is
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  Speaker 2: back in the race, and in order to jump start
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  Speaker 2: his campaign, Tony Evers, the outgoing governor, immediately endorses Crowley.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Evers It vowed he wasn't going to adorse a candidate
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: prior to the primary, but he endorsed Crowley because the
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Democratic strategist have to send a message to all their
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: voters out there, this is who you're supposed to vote for.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: An interesting statement from the Republican Governor's Association. That's the
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  Speaker 2: organization as job it is to elect Republicans as governor
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  Speaker 2: national group Colin Crompton watching Wisconsin Democrats is like watching
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: a clown car crash into a parked semi truck. From
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  Speaker 2: financial scandals to relaunching field campaigns, these Democrats shouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: in charge of a lemonade stand, let alone the state
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  Speaker 2: of Wisconsin. You could say that that's a cheap shot,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: except it's accurate, and these cheap shots they right themselves.
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  Speaker 2: So now at Crowley is the annoying candidate. Through annoying
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  Speaker 2: as a candidate, a guy who was running for the
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: job for nine months and couldn't get any support. They
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  Speaker 2: also have to convince, and time is short here. The
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  Speaker 2: primary is now four weeks away less. You've got to
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: get a lot. It's easier to buy time on social
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  Speaker 2: media on the Internet that it is on television television.
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  Speaker 2: You got to get the buys in because the time
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  Speaker 2: is limited. There's only so much space for certain commercials
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  Speaker 2: on TV media. You can kind of pluck it in
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: theirself infinite number of these pop up ads that'll show
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  Speaker 2: all over the place. But to get the ads on television,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: you need to be able to make the ad by
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  Speaker 2: two weeks in advance because these stations in a political
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  Speaker 2: season can be sold out. And Crowley still doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: any money, so they need to get him a ton
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  Speaker 2: of money fast. So over the weekend, the phones are
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  Speaker 2: big work. Give money to Crawley, Give money to crawling
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  Speaker 2: Give money to Crawley. In the meantime, beg pressure on
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  Speaker 2: Joel Brennan to drop out and big pressure on Mendela
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  Speaker 2: Barnes to drop out. Mendela Barnes came into the race
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  Speaker 2: as the candidate with a lot of name recognition because
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: he ran state wide before. Mendela isn't even his real
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  Speaker 2: first name. His first name is Jesse he's been using
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  Speaker 2: Mendela forever because Nelson Mandela is a better name to
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: run around with than Jesse. Well, Barnes has been number
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  Speaker 2: two in almost all of the polls. He's never budged,
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  Speaker 2: and he's never got to number one. Also, the problem
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: with keeping Mendela Barnes in the races. He's African American,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: as is Crowley. They'd like the African American Democrat vote
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to you unite behind Crowley, so they're trying to get
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Barnes out of the race. So far, the story on
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: JS online today quoting all of the candidates as to
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: what they're saying about Evers, annointing Crowley and so on,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: and they're all saying bland stuffy. The most interesting bland
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: comment came from Hong. Now, I would have thought, you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: you go around the country, these Marxist lefties that are
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: running for office, they do nothing but rip mainstream Democrats,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: AOC and all of them. They just rip and rip
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: and rip them. I'm surprised Hong didn't say this election
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: belongs to the people. Old school Democrats like Tony Evers
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: are trying to dictate to Wisconsin Democrats who they should
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: vote for and they should not. She didn't say that,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: she just babbled. Well, Okay, Crowley's back in the race.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: The more of the marea of blah blah blah. Brennan's
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: still in the race. I'm doing this podcast as of Monday.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: This could change momentarily. Barnes is still in the race.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I think they'll get Brennan out of the race. What
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: can you give Brennan? The problem is, Brennan doesn't need
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a job. He's a qualified guy. He's had the Greater
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee Committee and so on. Barnes needs a job because
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: he's not qualified to do anything. We don't even know
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: if Barnes is a driver's license right now, Mirindola, Barnes
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: is half an idiot, So probably you could get him
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: something to get him to drop up. But Barnes is
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: only going to drop out if he thinks his chances
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: of winning the governor's primary are hopeless. So here's the thing.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Let's imagine they get Barnes out and they get Brennan out,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: so the field is down to hang the fellow lofty Roys,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: and then Crowley and all the Democratic leaders are telling
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: everybody to vote Crowley, Crowley, Crowley, Crowley, Crowley, Crowley, will
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: it work or recent history is instructive? Here? Can you
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: think of a recent election that we've held in which
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Democratic voters had their nominee chosen for them and rammed
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: down their throat so they had no chance to pick
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: who they wanted, and then that candidate went out and
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: lost the general election. Anyway, Kama La. There's a lot
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: of anger within the Democratic Party that they ended up
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: with a dupus of a candidate in Kamala Harris because
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: a Joe Biden didn't drop out earlier, and b they
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: didn't have an open primary where other Democratic candidates could
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: have run for the position. It may well be that
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: some of these Democratic voters aren't going to like being
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: dictated to and may say, screw it, screw Cowley, screw you,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Tony Evers, We're voting for hung Also wonder this, this
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: is a fair observation. How much pull does Tony eversus
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: endorsement have, how many voters in the state of Wisconsin. Well,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I know you have Democrats. I don't know how I'm
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: going to vote for. I think I'll wait and see
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: what old Tony Evers tells me what to do. Remember,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: this is the same Tony Evers that cut a deal
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: with the Republican legislative leaders on school education funding and
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: he couldn't get a single Democrat to vote for it
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: in the legislature. When you are a lame duck public official,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: your poll is very limited. Likewise, I think once we
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: get into the final two years of President Trump's term,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: his endorsements and Republican primaries will not be as strong
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: as they are now. As you're on the way out,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: you become yesterday's news and become less influential. So I
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: think it's possible that all of this is going to backfire,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: that they're not going to get all the Democrats in
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the state to vote for Crowley as opposed to Hang.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Now what other thought on this. I don't want to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: solve problems of Democrats for them, but they've never listened
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to me, so don't expect them to start out. I
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: think if they want to beat Francesca Hank, here's what
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: they have to do. They have to call her out
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: for being a Marxist and say our Democratic Party Wisconsin
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: is not Marxist. Furthermore, we need to win, and Francesca
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Hank's not going to win because most of your fellow
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Wisconsins are not Marxists and she is, so therefore you
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: can't vote for If they come out and bluntly say that,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I think the average Democrats scratching his head in Appleton
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and maybe even Milwaukee, will nod their head and say, yeah,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: we don't want to let that Tiffany is a mega
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: guy win. Crowley's the way to go. We can't let
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: this Marxist get in there. Furthermore, I don't think the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: case is clear that most American Democrats actually are Marxist.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: They may be in a lot of these big, totally
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: blue districts like New York State and so on, But
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin's a swing state. We're a dead even state. Half
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: the time we elect Republican governors, half the time we
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: elect Democratic governors. Presidential election votes are closed. It's a
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: lot easier to jam down people's throats a Marxist in
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: an eighty five percent democratic district like some of these
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: house receipts in New York than it is in a
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: state like Wisconsin. But in order for them to pull
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: that off, they have to stop this whimping around and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: being afraid to say it, and they have to come
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: out and they have to tell people why haung it's
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: terrible and they have to criticize her. But they have
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: been terrified of doing this. The manstream Democrats have you know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: from the beginning of this once ever since the party
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: started to go radical with the anti Semitism, the overtly
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: cheering for the assassination of Trump, the regular old Democrats
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: have been terrified of knocking down their leftist wing. They're
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: afraid of them. And my theory as to why they're afraid,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Republicans are never afraid of argument with anybody. Republicans are
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: fight fighting all the time. Nobody's afraid of the other side.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: They're not even afraid of Trump. The Republicans, they don't
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: like Trump RiPP Trump. They often pay for it, but
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: it doesn't stop him from ripping him. Do you think
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: brand Paul, if he has a disagree with Trump, is
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: not gonna say so. Look at this guy Massy. It
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: cost him his job, but he kept ripping him. But
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the Democrats are terrified, and I think that the answer
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: is there. The Democrats know that their left wing is
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: evil and plays dirty, and they're afraid of what they're
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: going to do. Let's talk about another looney Democratic governor.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: In fact, I can tell you one of the one
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: of the messages, one of the messaging points that the
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Tiffany campaign is strongly thinking about is just running against
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: him walls in Minnesota by saying we don't want to
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: come ount Wisconsin to be Minnesota. And then all, yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the story rights itself the Somali fraud that he his
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: insistence that boys be able to play in girls sports.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: You can just show all of these images plus putting
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Waltz up there. Waltz just looks like a dufus. You
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: don't even explain why you're putting him up there, because
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: you're just putting up the face of a known dupis
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: will that dufus. A couple of weeks ago, gave clemency
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: to a Laotian immigrant to the United States who was
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: convicted better than twenty years ago of child rape. The
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: guy is set to be released on parole. He served
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a lengthy term and is now set to be released.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: If you are a convicted felon, you can be deported
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: from the United States. So Waltz gave him clemency so
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: that he is not considered a felon in the eyes
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: of the law and can't be deported. Like everything else
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: that Waltz has done in immigration, this is created just
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: a firestorm of controversy. Now, big story on Fox News today.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: The biggest newspaper in Minnesota, the Minnesota Star Tribune, has
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: rallied to the defense of Waltz, saying that he did
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: the right thing in offering this clemency to stop Trump's
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: administration from deporting this guy. I want to analyze this. Now,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: let's put yourselves in the shoes of the average nincompoop Democrat. Right,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: why do you go to the mat for a child rapist.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt that the guy did it, victim was
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a miner. In fact, there were multiple victims, one of
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: which was at least one of which was a miner.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt he was guilty. He's Layocean. That's not
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a particular group that the Democrats seem to be in
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: love with or enamored with. It's not like he's a Somalion.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: They're allowed to do anything in Minnesota. Why go to
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the mat for that guy? Seriously, just again, if you're
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a Democrat, you're gonna pick and choose your causes. Why
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: is stopping a child rapist and being kicked out of
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the country something that you're going to fight over and
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: try to defend. First of all, it's a hard case
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: to defend, even if you are a lefty. Second, you
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: know when they the media, when they've tried to do
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: these cases in criticizing Ice, they're never focusing on the rapists.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: They're never focusing on armed robbers, they're never focusing on carjackers.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: They find some woman who's been here since she was
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: three years old, as a mother of four kids. They're
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: always coming up with that. But in this case, it's
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: child rapist. No, you can say, why don't they just
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: deport him anywhere for being illegal? See that's the thing.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: He's not here illegally, but as a convicted felon, he
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: can be deported. He's not a citizen, so he's a
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: legal immigrant to the United States. But we can and
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: always have had the power of deporting immigrants who are
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: here if they commit serious crimes like a felony. So
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: that Ice was going on the Trump administration, we're going
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: to deport him. So anyway. The Mini Minnesota Star tribute
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: in newspaper rallies to the defense of Waltz. This is
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: one of the real problems that I think is afflicting
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the mainstream media. They're just knee jerk right now in
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: a opposing Trump and b defending anything a Democrat would do.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: And it's the whole problem that was going on with
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the Somali fraud in Minnesota, where everybody was looking the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: other way at it. If this situation, if all of
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: it were reversed, Let's imagine there's a Republican governor and
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: he was cozying up to an ethnic minority and had
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: the support of a lot of them. Let's just take
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I'll come up again. I want to stretch as the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: fake exam in Florida, the Cuban American community is very
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: tight with Ron de Santa's, the Republican governor. Let's imagine
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: there were a number of Cuban Americans that were involved
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: in social service fraud in Florida and Dissanna's did nothing
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: about it and kept handed out the contracts and look
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: at the other way. Do you not think for a
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: minute that the lefties would be outraged and attacking that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: It's not like that they were totally for social service fraud.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: They're just not against it because it's a Democrat and
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the Somalians that were doing it. Most of the Somalians
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: have come to America have been Democrats, elan Omar among them.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: They become a power base in the state of Minnesota,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and Waltz is a Democrat. Likewise, Trump has been granting
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: clemency right and Trump's impardoning people right and left for
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: all matter of things. Can you imagine if Trump pardoned
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: or gave clemency to a child rapist, These same people
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: that are defending Waltz would go nuts over that. So
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: it is that even the they're okay with child rapists,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: it's just that they're going to back anything a Democrat does,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: and they're going to oppose any deportation that prompts people
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: try to do. You just end up looking ridiculous. There
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: have been any number of things the Republicans that Wisconsant
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: have done that I haven't liked, and I've said so
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: when Trump has done things that I haven't liked, I've
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: said so. There's no upside in defending somebody all the time,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: no matter how stupid the decision is, because you end
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: up looking ridiculous, even to your own side. So the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: media's just abandoned any notion of being a watch I get. Instead,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: they're more than just a pr arm for the Democratic Party.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: It's a we'll back you on anything. And in the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: case of Waltz, backing somebody who's no future for him,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: no future as the governor of Minnesota, he's got no future. Naturally,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: he's considered a laughing slide. If there was any Democrat
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: that would be easy to throw under the bus, you'd
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: think it would be him. All right, I've got this
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: story for you, this whole issue we're facing of the
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: new what I call the new industrial revolution. The data
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: centers are going to be as prevalent in not only
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: our country but our world as the auto plants, the
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: steel plants, the paper mills, all of the other rubber,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: all the big giant industries. This is what the big
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: industry is going to be for the twenty first century.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: But a lot of communities don't want them. I haven't
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: heard I'm not saying nobody else has made this point.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I just haven't heard anybody else make it. Maybe Jason's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: made it. I pointed out that if you went back
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: one hundred years and you put the lefties of then
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: if you put the brains of today's lefties into those heads.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Those people would have opposed paper mills, they would have
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: opposed auto plants, they would have opposed steel mills, they
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: would have posed autoparts plants. All the industries that we have,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: they would have opposed all of them too, and almost
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: all of them were way more intrusive than the data centers.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: You think the data centers causing increases in the victory?
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: What do you think we had the great buildout of
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: power plants and the buildout of the electric grid. It
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: was primarily to serve the purposes of manufacturing an industry
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: in America. The data centers don't have smoked stacks. They're
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: not belching pollutants into the air. They do send off
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: a hum, but trust me, the hum is nowhere near
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: the kind of noise that you were outside any major
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: factory in any event. I get that, just as you know.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: The thing about those factories, and they're built back in
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the day. They generally were built in the middle of
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: urbanized areas because that's where the people lived. And in fact,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I think of in Wisconsin the paper bills. Almost all
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the paper mills are built on a river or a lake,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: usually rivers, and that's because the paper mills use huge
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: amounts of water, kind of like the data centers. Do
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: you know why they use a huge amount of water?
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: You're from Illinois, you don't know anything. What do they
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: make in Illinois? I worked in Illinois for five years.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I still can't think of an industry that they had.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: What was what's the big industry in Illinois? They do
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: make cars at the Ford Plan and Central Illinois. They
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: actually had a couple of coal mines. Yeah, but you
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: just don't think of like they you know, they just
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: they have like all these companies that are in Chicago,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: but like Decatur has eight a m and Caterpillars in Purea,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: right they pull out. But I'm just saying that's what
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: their history was. Wisconsin's paper mills and the reason you
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: have to have water that you know, the way you
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: get the I'm simplifying, but the way you turn wood
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: into water is you have to add a lot of
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: moisture to it. The mill that was in my town
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: was actually a pulp mill, which is nothing more than
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: sogged up wood. That's why it's not.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: They're put in the center of towns and likewise, you
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: take a look at the factories that were here in
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee area. Many of them were in the areas
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: that were both kind of half residential and half industrial
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: on the north side of the city. Some on the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: south side had Laddish and some of these are in
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the suburbs kind of and so on. You had Harness
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Uggar's companies on the north side. You had Aosmith and
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Johnson Controls at a company anyway, the lefties that opposed
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: all of those two. So one of the knocks on
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: the data centers has been they're likely to cause an
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: increase in electric rates because we simply don't have enough
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: power capacity right now to provide all the electricity. And
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: this truth to that undeniably. Until we get going on
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: building a lot of power plants, the data centers will
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: drive up electric grades because they use a lot of
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: electricity supply and demand. So one of the things that's
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: been happening across the country. Musk is one of the
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: first to have gone after this, but there are other companies,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: and by the way, just check out all their stocks.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: This is not news. They've been hot for three years.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Companies are building power plants at the data centers. So
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the data center rather than hook themselves up to the
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: grid and depending on the power plants that already stay.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: They're just saying, we'll build our own power plant. Kind
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: of solves the problem. If you build your own power plant,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: you're not creating any demand on the existing electrical red
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: that's in place because you're getting your power from the
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: power plant that's built there. In other words, kind of
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: solves the problem. Solves the problem for the data center
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: because they need power, and solves the problem for the
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: community because it means our utilities don't have to build
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: power plants. When you build power plants, you have to
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: raise rates in order to do it. So there's one
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: of these that's being proposed in Walworth County. It's a
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: natural gas plant, which of course natural gases other than
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: nuclear probably the burning electricity source. I said, burning solar
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't burn anything. Wind doesn't burn anything. The problem with
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: using solar and wind to power a data center, as
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I've explained forever, you don't get much power out of
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: solar and wind. If you wanted to power a data
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: center with windmills, the wind I'm not making this up.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: The wind Felt windmill factory, the windmill site would have
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: to be nine or ten times larger than the footprint
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: of the data center. Well, who wants to have windmills
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: going up five miles leading up to the data center. Well,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: there are residents now complaining about the natural gas plant.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: As I say, I mean, I get in all these things.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Nobody wants it to be built right next to them.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: But we've been putting up power plants in the United
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: States as long as they're in power, and I get
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: most of them are put again, there's water purposes this.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: A lot of the power plants in Wisconsin are on
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Lake Michigan, the nuke plants, the coal plants, and the
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: natural gas plants, so they're off at a certain region,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: but they don't have to be You can put them anywhere.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: The thing that's going on in Memphis in this case,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Memphis is just a city that has terrible poverty forever
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: and they've been open for industrial revolution. Musk is a
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: massive footprint there, His AI plan is there, his big
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: data center is there, and they're putting up multiple power
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: plants in Memphis. And there's a huge jolt of the
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: economy because all the jobs that are created by this,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and the people are going to work and they're all
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: going to be highly paid and so on. But in
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: the meantime, now you're going to have people who just
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: when you try to solve a problem with regard to
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: the siting of a data center, they're just going to
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: come up with a new excuse and a new excuse
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: and a new excuse. I mean, the only thing that
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I would cite is being valid. Is I grant you
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: if you live close to what you want to look at.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Do you want to look at a power plant? No?
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: But if you have four miles away, what the hell
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: do you care? I mean, power plans do take you know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: they take up space, and you see them you fly
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: into Milwaukee. There they are. That's always, by the way,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: when I'm flying in a plane, that I can tell
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: where I am because there's the one right the Illinois
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin state line, that's the pleasant Prairie plant the wee
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: energies planned. And then you go farther north and you
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: see the one up to Wisconsin. So I've always running.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Am I still in Illinois? Wisky in Wisconsin? So I
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: look at the lake and I look for the smokestacks.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: That's my because otherwise it all kind of looks the same,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: and you know, there's never much of a especially at night,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: there's never much of a gap in the lights. I
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: mean from downtown Chicago to downtown Milwaukee, it's almost now
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: all filled in. Almost. I mean it is filled in
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: all the way to the state line. I mean a
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: couple of residential areas in Illinois Lake Forest there's just
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: homes that are there. But otherwise it's built up almost
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: all the way through. And I give only ten years
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: that the gaps in Racine and Kenosha Counties will be
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: totally filled in as well. They're close right now along
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the lakefront, and they're filling in as well along the interstate.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Follow that for you, Jason, did you watch the World
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Cup final? You did? I don't quiz people as whether
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: or not they did or they didn't. Have you watched
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: any of the other world Now you're a big sports fan,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: but you've indicated you don't have a lot of interest
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: in soccer. That's you threw it because of this World
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Cup you did. It was like my old producer Paul,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: what was the sport? It might have been women's soccer.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: He would just I couldn't even bring it up, and
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: he'd start barking. I couldn't even bring up like an
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Olympic or I caldn't even bring up like Mia Hamm
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: or anybody famous. He just bark at me and bark
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: at me and bark at me that he didn't care
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: about it. And then I think it was when the
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: women were in the Olympics or one of the women's
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: World Cups. Oh, I'm into this. Do you have any
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: impressions of it? That's true. America came off looking great,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: and everybody who came here from everywhere else they're finding
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: out that a first of all, the message is at
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: messaging drilled into them about America just isn't true. But
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: the thing I think that most foreigners miss and I'll
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: grant you I would miss this going to any other country,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: and I'm not a huge world travel I've been on cruises.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: That's basically it. But when think people think of America,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of foreigners are not aware that
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Texas and Baltimore could be in different universes rather than
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: being in different countries. So they're going and they're eating
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: like Texas barbecue, and then they'll go somewhere else where
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: there's the attractions are totally different. So you end up
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: and if you come to the United States, not ethnic cultures.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: There's just nine or eleven different cultures in terms of
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: the region and what it's all about. You have any
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: other thoughts on watching the World Cup on TV? I
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: mean the last game, the final game, Yeah, I know that,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: any other beyond the game itself. Yeah, yeah. Jason made
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: a good point. Every player on both teams shook as
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: it is Trump's hand, and if the thing was in
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: another country, everybody would have shook the leader of whatever
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: that country is. No. My thought on it is this
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I realized, you know, as somebody who's been soccer resistant
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: forever and again, this game I think just gives you
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: all the It was all the problems that soccer has
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: as a sport were rolled up into the one game.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about this a little bit later, but to me,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: they just sent a clear message. They mean, they just said, belling,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: we're not for you. And that was the halftime show.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: That halftime show was just a strong message to me
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: that we're not aiming at you. I mean, it was
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes of the most I won't even say it
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: was bad. It was just blah. It was just drone,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, lips sinking and like none none interesting dancing
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: and boy open, Now I understand I'm hard to please
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: in this regard. I grew up when the Rolling Stones
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: and the Beatles and the who were making it big.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I grew up during the greatest music of all time.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: So anything that's gonna pass itself off is current. I mean,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: you know what that halftime show struck me as? It
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: struck me as AI. I'm guessing those actually were people.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: There were dancers, and there were singers, and there were
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: people playing instruments. But if they were AI, would it
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: have been any different? It probably would have been redter right,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: would have been holographs. You're not gonna tell me you
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: like that mess of a show, did you? You just
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: tuned out? I mean I wasn't totally paying attention to it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I mean I had the game on. I'm doing two
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: or three other things. Also, Fortunately it's not showing up
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: in my voice yet, but I've been fighting. Friday night,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I got hit with a bad cold and I was
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: just ge I'm in the coughing stage that I'm breaking
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: a little bit here. But all I was doing, yes
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: is coughing, coughing, because so, I mean, not paying full
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: attention to anything. But it certainly was hard to pay
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: attention to understand what was going on during the game.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: The score was nothing, nothing the whole game, and every
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: time you looked up, Spain had the ball in the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: on the Argentinian and it was on the verge of scoring.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Wasn't that the entire game that you watched. I mean,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: when Argentina would get the ball, Argentina, I mean, if
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: you think of like football, Argentina went three and out
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: on every possession they get the ball, and they couldn't
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: even make the first pass. Oh so every time Argentina
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: got the ball, they would always start going backwards and
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: reset up. They couldn't put on any charge of it
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: at all. So I mean, this didn't require any soccer sophistication.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: You could be somebody who doesn't get understand any the
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: nuances of the game, and I would have had that,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: but the halftime show just told me I'm not supposed
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: to get this. I'm not supposed to like it. Just
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: go back and watch American football, and watch baseball, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: watch basketball, watch dock card racing, watch your super horse racing,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: and don't try to get into this because they are
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: clear are clearly not your thing. And all right, message served.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: It's gone for four years. I'll probably pay attention to
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: it again next during what the Olympics. Yeah, in the Olympics,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: and two years, I'll pay attention to it then. But
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: in the meantime, you people from soccer can just know,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: leave me alone and no, go back to not paying
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: any attention to you. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling podcast. So on Thursday night,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Trump did his big shebang talking about election fraud, for
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: an interference in the elections and so on. Now people
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: are arguing that Trump come up with any proof that
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: anything corrupt is going on. Whether redd or he didn't
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: almost to me is irrelevant. If Trump would have come
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: up with absolute proof photos of Chinese filling in ballots,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: it would have gotten the same response. The Left simply
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: isn't going to hear about it, and they're going to
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: put it all in the context of Trump still trying
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: to claim the twenty twenty election was stolen, and I
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: grant you, I think that is the reason Trump is
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: obsessed over this. However, that election isn't going to be undone.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: If it was undone, Trump wouldn't be the president of
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: the United States. Now, the reason all of this is
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: relevant is because of the future. I'm gonna share a
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: piece that was written on this with you in a moment,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: but I want to come up with a couple of
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: observations of my own. The one thing that is not
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: disputed by anyone is that the Chinese did request the
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: voterless for the entire United States of American population. They
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: got their hands on voter rolls all over the nation.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Why no, people say, but there's no medication that we
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: don't have any proof they actually interfered. Let's put that
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: aside for a moment. It doesn't shange the fact that
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: they wanted all of these election records. They wanted all
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: the voter roles. Why now, let me be honest about
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: a point for a moment. There is a long history
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: of foreign countries interfering in elections. You know who the
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: biggest interferer in foreign elections is US. Back in the day,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: that's what our CIA did. When we had a CIA
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: that actually supported the interests of the United States, we
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: would go in and do what was in our best
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: interest we felt in seeing who would be in charge
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: of certain countries. I'm talking the CIA of the fifty
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: sixty seventy, the Cold War CIA. It happened. So don't
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: say that foreign countries can't interfere with elections. We do know, however,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: that China did not want prumpt to be president. China
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: thrived under Obama, by the way, that's not even a
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: knock on Democrats. They thrived under w. Bush. They really
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: thrived under Clinton. They put spies in the United States
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: and put them down a little. The Little Rock Marafia
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: who houred themselves out to China, Charlie Tree and John Wong,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: remember all of those guys. Reagan was kind of a neutral.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: The first Bush, I would say, was pro Chinese. Carter
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: was paying attention, Cauter was having too much trouble with
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: everybody else. But the guy that started all of this
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: was Nixon. Nixon was the guy that empowered China to
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: become the superpower that they are now. They were globally isolated,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: and it was Nixon that went over there and kissed
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: the China. This is was I think Mao was still
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: in charge then, I think that was Yeah, it was
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Joe and Lai was during Reagae as Mao. So I mean,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: this is a log history American presidents sucking up to China,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: and Obama really did. And then Trump came in in
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: sixteen and stopped. He screwed with them on parade and
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: said we're gonna stop rolling over and giving you everything
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: you want. So okay, now we're approaching the twenty twenty elections,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Trump running for a second term. Clearly China did not
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: want Trump in. They wanted to be back to the
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: good old days of having an American president who, along
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: with corporate America, hoard our nation out to China. Now
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I think that what did they do about it was COVID.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I don't have proof of that, but the evidence I
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: think is fairly strong. We know that COVID started in China,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: we know that COVID quickly spread to the United States.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: We know that the United States crippled its own economy
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: during COVID, and we also know that the backlash to
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: COVID was a big part of the problem that a
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: curb with Trump tried to get himself reelected. Do I
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: think that they deliberately allowed that virus to get out
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: of the laboratory. I can't go that far yet, but
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I think it's possible. Unlike people on the left of
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: not just going to say something because I feel like
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: saying And the reason they say that it's possible, but
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not totally buying into it is in the long run,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: COVID has casted China more proper. In the United States,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: they still have COVID outbreaks that are severe over there. Anyway,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: going back to the elections, we know they didn't want
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Trump to win. We know that nobody's gonna argue they
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: wanted Trump to win. They didn't. And then they got
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: all these election records. Why it's possible they got them,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: tried to cheat and couldn't figure out how to do it.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Is it possible? And I think this is a real
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: possibility that they got all of these voter records to
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: see how many Chinese American Chinese that are now American
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: citizens or Chinese nationals that weren't American citizens were in there.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they have a database of every Chinese that's
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: here in the United States, so they could communicate to
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: them about out of it. I don't know. What I
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: do know is that China asked for all these records.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Though the Wisconsin Election Commission is saying China didn't steal
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: our records because anybody can request our that's true. Anybody
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: can buy the Wisconsin voter rolls, and I think that
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: that's proper. Voter rolls are a public record and therefore
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: anybody can access them. However, they do charge a lot
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: of money for them. Whether China access them to a
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: public records request or just stole them, I don't know,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: but it is certainly true that anybody in the state
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: of Wisconsin can get them. The fact that China was
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: doing this is a red flag, and that's I think
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: if Trump perhaps is overstating what did happen, or maybe isn't,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: the potential for what could happen is a real thing.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Always remember, always, always, always remember this that I tell
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: you all the time. Whatever the left accuses the right
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: of doing, that's what the left in fact is doing.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: The entire time they were accusing of Trump, they were
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: accusing Trump of colluding with the Russians. Were they colluding
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: with the Chinese? We know this Russia collusion was a lie.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: It was never happening. Well, what better lie to make
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: up than one that's alleging Trump is doing what in
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: fact you yourself is currently doing. There's an interesting piece
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: at the spectator Spectator dot com. It's behind a paywall,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna link it up for you. For
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: those you can fight, you can fight it. Roger Kimball,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: he's a right winger. He wrote a piece and here's
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: the headline. You can tell where he's coming from with
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: his headline, only cheats fear the Save Act. And he's
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: right about that. The only people that have any reason
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: to oppose to Save America Act, that's the voting reforms,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: are people that are cheating. It's like, before I get
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: into this, I'll go back to my philosophy on drug
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: testing in the workplace. And I have never worked for
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: a company that drug tested. I know why. And I've
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: been and you know, I've been in radio since I
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: was in several things, been in college, but then I'm
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: been in radio as my professional calling ever since college
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: eight hundred years ago. You were kind of in other
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: things with radio, right, mostly sports, But I mean was
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: it sports on the radio or sports in other so
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: it was mostly radio? Yeah, all right, Now I know why.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: None of the radio companies that I've ever done has
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: drug tested. Do you know why? You don't know why?
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna remember I got into radio in the late
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventies because they were not a fire everybody. When
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: I got into radio, I swear I was the only
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: guy who didn't smoke cigarettes, the only one. They all drank,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: including me, and there are yeah, a lot of them
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: were doing a lot of other stuff. I would just
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: think the country guys seem to be doing pills. There's
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of pot smoking going on. I mean rock
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: and roll radio in the eighties, I mean everybody. I
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: mean the coke caine. That's you know, the old Playola
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: scandals when they were getting people to play records and
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: you just gave somebody and gave a DJ a lot
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: of coke. That's what happened. So if radio stations started
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: drug casting, I mean they would have had anybody to
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: work there. They probably ought to do it now instead
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: of just firing everybody as they're doing, just run through
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: drug testing and the white pot a few morphs. Anyway,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: they never have. But let's imagine just go back. I
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: could say before iHeart Battis or one of the other
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: companies that I had worked for before I got to
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee and so on. Worked for a company in the
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: eighties called Midwest Family Radio, Let's imagine they said drug
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: testing and you had to have a mandatory drug test.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: That would have worked there. I would have been perfectly
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: fine with it. You know why, I wasn't using drugs.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I've never I smoked. I would think fewer than ten
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: joints of pot in college. That's it. I did cocaine
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: once in my life in the early eighties. I was
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: at a party. I don't even know if I inhaled it, right,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton on this, I don't remember anything. If it
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: had any effect on me seventy I might have still
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: been in college. It's just it's over over forty years ago,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: nearly fifty years ago. My god, I am old, and
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: I've always been honest tho with that. That's my drug.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just I it was never my thing,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: including in the era ies going to college. I mean
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: that was the decade that pot was everywhere. I just
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I drank beer was my pot. So if they came
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: in and they said, let's you're a drug cast, they
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: got me perfectly fined because I'm not using drugs, what
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: do I care. I'm pragmatic about all of this. It's
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: like all these cities are now taking out the cameras
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: under the flock cameras because all this is potential for abuse.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I'm for cameras everywhere because I owned I'm not doing anything. Dude,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: do you want a camera to be out there? You're
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: just walking down the street. I'm fine with it. I'm
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: not doing anything wrong, and I'm walking down on the street.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: I don't do anything wrong. What do I care if
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: this camera is everywhere? Now, if I was doing a
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: bunch of bad things, but I like the fact that
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: there are cameras doing, yeah, I would. I wouldn't like
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: that if I was using illegal drugs, but I wanted
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: to be drug testing. It's the same with the Save Act.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Photo yd for voting. I'm not breaking any election laws,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: so why would it be against photo I d for voting.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I'm only voting for one person, me and I have
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: a photo YDA. I'm a citizen, so why would I
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: be i'sproving citizenship. So the statement that is made in
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: the headline the only people opposed the Save Act of
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: the cheaters is correct? All right. Here's a few paragraphs
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: on Kimball's PA's potus, provided it is provided in this
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: thirty minute speech, chapter and verse about two great threats
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: to America's the electoral system, foreign interference, especially by China.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Let me interject, Let's go backward in time. Let's imagine
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: what they were saying about Russia. Illusion was true, it wasn't.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Let's imagine the Russians were colluding in twenty twenty to
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: reelect Trump. Wouldn't you lefties want to prevent that? Now?
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I know you all made it up, But what if
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: some unethical Republican was cooperating with a foreign power. We
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: know that the Israelis have meddled in American affairs. What
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: if there were indications that Israel was taking American voting
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: records for the purposes of electing a Republican there was
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: pro Israel, would you be a favor of that? See
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: your lefties that are out there against this, Just remember
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: there's a long history of corruption on both sides. Watergate
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: was a Republican thing, especially by China, and systemic vulnerabilities
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: of the processes through which our elections are conducted. Those
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: vulnerabilities have two sorts, active efforts to manufacture fake votes
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: and bureaucratic efforts to conceal the truth about election fraud
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: on the part of those entrusted with policing our elections.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: There was no quote evidence on viewing his speech or
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: the mountains of the classified documents he released at the
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: White House website. No quote evidence only evidence. In other words,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: he's doing a play on words here. Okay, there wasn't evidence,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: but there's evidence, and the evidence. You get all that
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: here by my change in tone. Here the way I
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: use inflection to communicate this, so you can learn from me. Jason,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: you're only sixty nine years old. I'm older than that,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: and I've been a radio longer than you. How long
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: have you been a radio? Did you do it straight
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: out of college? That's what I was kind of wondering.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I went straight into this thing. No evidence,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: only evidence, realms and reams of incontrovertible evidence of election
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: interference by China and other countries, as well evidence of
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: various weaknesses in our election infrastructure. And here's the rub.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: If voters cannot trust the elections are on the up
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: and up, that votes are counted accurately and only those
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: eligible to vote are allowed to vote, then the social contract,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: the assumption of legitimacy bestowed by the people on their government,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: is broken. In a phrase that I hope will gain currency.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: The President summed up the situation, No Trust, no greatness.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: President Trump outlined several ways in which American elections have
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: been compromised. The details are there for all to see
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: in the cash of declassified intelligence contained on that White
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: House website. Vulnerabilities in electronic voting and balloting, ballot counting systems,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: China's acquisition and exploitation of American voter data, Michigan voter
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: registration investigation, and non citizens on state voter rolls. It
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: was a serving, sobering recitation that the President provided, but
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: it was not simply a news report. It was also
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: a practical call to action. Following up on his slogan,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: no Trust, no Greatness. He ended with a plea that
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Congress passed to Save America Act. And what does that
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: act require? One voter ID? Those presenting themselves to vote
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: must produce a valid picture ID. This is a requirement
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: if you want to check into a hotel and are
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: most city buildings, board an airplane, or send a FedEx package.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: How could it not also be a requirement to vote?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Two A proof of citizenship. Only American citizens may vote
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: in American elections. Some proof of citizenship must be provided,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: just as it must be provided if you want to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: work in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Three.
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  Speaker 2: Finally, since mail in ballots are more susceptible to manipulation
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: than regular ballots, their use must be limited to clearly
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: defined categories of voters, those who are ill or disabled,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: those who are traveling, and military personnel who are deployed overseas.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: But that's all just common sense. You say, you're right,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: it is just common sense. But it is one of
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: the great, if almost corrosive features of our age. The
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: common sense is one of the least common virtues. President
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Trump was correct. The only reason to be against the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Safe America Act is because you want a cheat. There
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: is no other reason. Let me end, as did the President,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: with a recommendation, call your congressman and let him know
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: him or her know that you do not like cheating
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: and elections, and therefore you want Congress to pass the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Save America Act. That is a patriotic and rational thing
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: to do. By the way, here in Wisconsin, all of
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: the Republican members of the House do support the Save
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: America Act, and the Republican Senator Ron Johnson does as well.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Every one of the Democrats is opposed to it. But
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: this is not one of the issues in which any
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: of the Republicans in Wisconsin are backsliding. There are a
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: few National Republicans in other states obviously, that are The
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Umbrook schoolboyd voted last week to put a one hundred
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: million dollar referendum on the ballot in the November election.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: One hundred million. Now I have a gone through all
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: of the details, and usual it happens in these referendums
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: is local residents who oppose them. When a community will
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: be and some of these communities people have gotten really
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: good at it. They'll dig into the numbers and break
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: down the ridiculous things in there. The elmberk referendum is
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: too new. I haven't had anybody do that, and it's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: just been passed one hundred million dollars. They're going to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: put it on the ballot in the November election. The
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: thing that's there's so many things that are shocking to
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: me about this number, but one of them is it's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: going to cost them one hundred million and they're not
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: even going to build one new school. I've always been
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: blown away at the amount of money that it costs
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: to put up a school, because it just seems to
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: me that any type of I'm going to call it
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: a commercial building even though it's governmental, because it's a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: commercial type structure, it's not a residential building. I think
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: the type that would require the least amount of frills
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: would be a school. School is the most tilitarian building
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: that you can think of. You put up a bunch
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: of cubicles, you make the buildings sturdy on the outside,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: and otherwise what else is there to do? I know,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: ada acted. Everybody has to comply with that one hundred million.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: The thing that makes all of this interesting is we
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: are in the early stages of an America a property
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: tax revolt. Part of it is it's now generational. The
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: group that has mostly bitched about property taxes are older people,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: because the overwhelming majority of older people own their own
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: homes and therefore pay property taxes. But now affordability is
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: being cited by younger people as the biggest obstacle to
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: owning housing, and in wisconsinder a huge chunk of the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: affordability as the property taxes. In many instances, the property
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: taxes are as big a burden as the mortgage itself,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: and they have to be paid every year. You can
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: finance that house over thirty years and really knock down
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: your housing payments. But the property taxes have to be
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: paid every year, and the schools are an increasing part
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: of that burden. And the schools in Wisconsin, we haven't
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: done away with them yet because we still have a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Republican legislature. But Wisconsin does have limitations as to how
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: much you can increase your property taxes from year to year.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: But the out is you can get around that by
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: having the voters pass a referendum. A few of them
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: failed in the last election, but the trend has been
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: that they pass and pass, and pass and pass. As
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: I've said in the past, don't bitch to me about
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: your property taxes if you're going to vote for a
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: school referendum. One of the things that's being debated in
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: many local communities is fire is referendums for public safety,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: fire stations, police funding, and so on. I'm usually against
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: those as well, but to me, they are an easier
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: sell than raising taxes for schools because almost all school
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: districts are seeing drastic declines in enrollment. When enrollment declines,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: when you have fewer customers students to serve it would
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: seem to me that you should be able to reduce
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: your spending, not increase it. So don't gripe to me
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: about your property taxes if you're going to turn around
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: and look for your school reference. But there's a need,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: but there's any everybody can say that there's a need.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: It's never a need. It's never a need. I've not
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: in all the years that I've done this show and
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: commented in school reference, have I ever seen one where
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: it was needed. I've seen many where, to be nice,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: I've never seen one that was needed. And every time
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: at school dis tokas one and they lose, they always
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: manage to get by without getting the increase in the funding.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: So the young Brook one will be an interesting one.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: With the pressure of property taxes going on and affordability
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: being this big thing. Well the voters go in past
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: this thing. Now here's the biggest problem. And I don't
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: have an answer for it, but it is a problem.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: We don't have property tax referendums in which only property
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: tax payers vote. I don't know what the percentage in
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Elmbrook would be. What I would guess, I'm not going
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: to guess how many, what percentage of the people who
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: will vote in the November election in and the n
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: brook district is largely Brookfield and Elmgrove own property, particularly
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: not counting the kids who are still living at home
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: of parents who do all the renters and so how
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: many of owned property. Now you could say renters pay
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: property taxes indirectly, and it is indirect you don't see it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Rents are basically determined by competition in the marketplace, so
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: rehdders see it as a freebie. And then you've got
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: all the commercial properties in which the owner may be
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: a business owner from another city or a corporation, they've
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: got no say in it at all. It really is
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: taxation without representation. The same problem has been in place
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: when we talk nationally under the state about income taxes.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Some people pay such little income taxes because if you're
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: in the lower brackets, the percentage of your income that
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: goes to taxes is extremely low. But in property taxes
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: it's a real problem. I live four months of the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: year in Florida, eight months in Wisconsin. I don't vote
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: in Florida. By voting is in Wisconsin because I'm here
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: more of the time, and you're supposed to base it
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: on where you are more at the time, So I
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: don't vote in Florida. But they've got this referendum coming
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: up in November and Florida in which they're going to
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: eliminate residential property taxes. The home has to be five
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars or less, you have to have lived
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: in it for a certain number of years, and so on.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Now I would vote for it if I was voting
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: in Florida, even though I rent in Florida rather than
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: one because philosophically, I'm fair for cutting all taxes. But
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: I'll admit the level of property tax exations in Florida
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: may affect me in terms of rent that I pay
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: as a renter. But I do know the rent is
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: set primarily by the incredible amount of money landlords can
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: get in Florida from running properties out. They have to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: build in all of their costs. The competition still determines
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: market rates. So the big problem that we face in
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: these referendums and having such a huge portion of the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: schools being funded by property taxes and municipalities is lots
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: and lots of people don't pay property taxes that are
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: voting in these elections. In which way determine what the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: property taxes are real quickly this story I'm killing you
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: that The Odyssey. I don't know how many of you
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: know this, but the Odyssey was the big moving to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: open this past weekend. Christopher nolan' is the director, and
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: apparently that's the entire point. Christopher Nolan is one of
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: the few directors that's become a brand. All Street Journal
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: has a story today in which the people that you know,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: they survey people who go to these movies. More than
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: half the people who went to the Odyssey said they
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: went because Christopher Nolan is directing the movie. That's gotta
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: be the first time that's ever happened. I'm a fan
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: of Martin Scorsese the director, and I'm a huge fan
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: of Clint Eastwood, the director. I actually will watch a
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: movie when it comes out if it's a Clint Eastwood movie,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: because you know Clinton his nineties. No, the last one
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: wasn't was the last one wasn't the greatest, But I mean,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: some of his movies are so spectacular. I watch it
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: just because the same thing of Scorsese. But I don't
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: think most people do that. Most people don't couldn't name
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: any director, but Christopher Nolan. He started, He's done a
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: lot of me, did one of the Batman movies. He's
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: done blockbusters, and his name has become a brand. I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: think Spielberg and George Lucas perhaps would be others, you know.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: I think Spielberg's first huge he did Close Encounters of
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: the Third Kind. He had done movies before that, but
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: that was the first huge one. And George Lucas, you know,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: that was sire wars put their names behind it. That
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: brings in a draw. Still if you went to I
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: don't know about now because I don't know what they're
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: teaching in schools anywhere, but I would say the schools
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: that still have classical educations. At some point, and I
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: admit I don't remember if it was grade school or
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: high school, at some point they make you read the Odyssey.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: And there isn't anybody who wanted to read the Odyssey.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Other wasn't anybody for which it ever stuck with them.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: The Iliad and the Odyssey were these two epic poems
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: by Homer. If you would have told me that they
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: could have turned the Odyssey into a hit movie, I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: would Every kid I know was born to tears by
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: this Now, obviously the subject matter isn't anywhere near as
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: important as the spectacle that's made, and there's a bunch
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: of superstar actors in it, and it's built on this
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: grand stage. Still epic classic was Homer Greek? You don't
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: know either, do You don't know either? That's the thing
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: I should I should do. I think it was grade
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: school that we had to read it. I'm just telling you.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: None of it stuck with me. I don't remember anything
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: about what it was about. Nothing. It just didn't stick
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: with me at all. And I bet most kids who
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: went to school don't remember it either. But it's a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: classic piece of literature, and for that reason we had
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: to learning it might have been an English cuss I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: just don't even remember. He is great, and it has
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: to be so suddenly. Now Greek literature, you know there?
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: You know the old smart I guess, the Roman movies
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: and some of that. They've been the subjects of big
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: motion pictures in the past. But apparently anything, the reviews
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: I guess are pretty good, and it was the big
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: winner in the box office over the weekend. Some final
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: thoughts on the World Cup, which is finally over. Next
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: on the Mark Belling podcast, we covered a little bit
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: in the World Cup earlier. Spain beat Argentina went to nothing.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: I think that this game, in a microcosm, explains the
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: problem with soccer for those of us who have a
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: problem with soccer. For those of you who watched the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: game and I didn't see what the number is, I'm
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: sure it's huge. Spain totally dominated this game. They're clearly
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: the better team. Argentina barely had the ball. It wasn't
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: until the final few minutes of the game, and there
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: were thirty extra minutes put onto the game because of
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: a tie that Argentina had a shot. Argentina ended up.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that was the total, but with
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: five minutes left in the game they had taken no shots.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: They got two shots off toward the end, and I
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: think that the number endited two. They shot only twice.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: They couldn't even get the ball down to the their
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: end of the field to shoot. The whole game was
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Spain trying to attack the Argentinian defense and score the
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: player who as somebody who's I mean, I could pick
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: out how great mess he is. If you can't pick
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: out a great MESSI is in watching MESSI play soccer,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: then you really can't kick. There's a reason why he's
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: always the guy that does the inbound kick in because
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: he's so incredible. But other than something really obvious like that,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: the standal player in the game was the goaltender for Argentina.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: What was his name, Martinez. He's flying all over the
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: place having to make all of these seas because Spain
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: always had the ball and they were always attacking the goal.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Yet despite this overwhelming dominance, it's only one to nothing.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: And to me, that's part of the problem with soccer.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Since it is so hard to score, you can I
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: would just think it would be easier to have fluky outcomes.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: You know, an American football, you get down. You know,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: we have games in which teams get down into the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: red zone a lot and maybe score all the once
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  Speaker 2: or twice, but usually you get a field goal or
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  Speaker 2: something out of that usual. They say, in an American
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  Speaker 2: football or most of our other sports, a team that's
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  Speaker 2: totally dominant, it's somehow reflected on the scoreboard. The only
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  Speaker 2: time it wouldn't be is in a sport where it
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  Speaker 2: is so hard to score that you can dominate, dominate dominated.
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  Speaker 2: It and still be zero zero. In fact, the commentators are
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  Speaker 2: saying that the one thing that Argentina has is they
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  Speaker 2: have better offensive attackers, including say Messi, that if the
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  Speaker 2: game eventually did go down to a shootout, which is
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  Speaker 2: what it would have been had it's still been tied
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  Speaker 2: after the thirty minutes of extra time, Argentina would have
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  Speaker 2: had the advantage because that's the one element of the
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  Speaker 2: game that they're better at. So you could have had
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  Speaker 2: a team that was completely outplayed actually turn out to
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  Speaker 2: win the game. As it turns out, Spain finally scored
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  Speaker 2: a goal late in the game and Argentina did have
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  Speaker 2: a chance to tie the game and a guy pick
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  Speaker 2: the ball over the goal we did an open shot
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  Speaker 2: toward the end of the game, in Spain ended up
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  Speaker 2: winning the game one to nothing. I wanted Argentina to
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  Speaker 2: win for reasons I explained last week, but it's clear
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  Speaker 2: that Spain was the better of the two teams, and
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  Speaker 2: probably the best team of all, and they certainly deserved
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  Speaker 2: to win. One of the points that I've made about
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  Speaker 2: almost every sport here in America is the rules are
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  Speaker 2: changed all the time to improve the game. Football is
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  Speaker 2: the biggest example Whenever teams figure out the ability to
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  Speaker 2: do something, the rules are changed to make that thing
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  Speaker 2: harder to keep in place the competitive balance for the game.
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  Speaker 2: We've changed rules on just about everything in football. Baseball
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  Speaker 2: was the one sport that was reluctant to change any rules.
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  Speaker 2: They finally did, and the game has been much greater
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  Speaker 2: because of it. The NBA is changing rules and interpretations
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  Speaker 2: all the time. I mean basketball, for example, the high
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  Speaker 2: schools are going to finally start experimenting with a shock clock,
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  Speaker 2: but otherwise the NBA brought in the shot clock I
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  Speaker 2: think in the nineteen forties. My point is that you know,
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  Speaker 2: initially American football, the forward pass was illegal. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: until a few years into it that they legalized the
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  Speaker 2: forward pass. Rules are changed all the time for the
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  Speaker 2: better but of the game now, I admit I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a great student of soccer, but have they ever changed
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  Speaker 2: an important rule? Ever? Why have they not over the
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  Speaker 2: years addressed the fact that it's so hard to score?
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, I know what the simplest way to
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  Speaker 2: do it would be make the goal bigger. What if
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  Speaker 2: they ran the goal from one end of the field
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  Speaker 2: at the other. And again I'm not seriously suggesting that
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  Speaker 2: you do this. But when indoor soccer came to the
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  Speaker 2: United States, and it's kind of in a bomb. The
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  Speaker 2: Milwaukee Wave is one of the few teams that's actually succeeded,
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  Speaker 2: and you know they had an ownership turnover a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times as well. The notion when indoor soccer came
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  Speaker 2: in is that you would be able to take the
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  Speaker 2: skills of soccer but put it in a much more
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  Speaker 2: high scoring game in which there'd be more fans that
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  Speaker 2: would be attracted to it. And the reality is indoor
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  Speaker 2: soccer actually has not been that big of a hit.
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  Speaker 2: Outdoor soccer in America is still a bigger deal than
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  Speaker 2: indoor soccer. But for those of us, and you can
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  Speaker 2: say that it's American jingoism and all of this, I
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  Speaker 2: just I watch a pro football game. On every play,
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  Speaker 2: there's so many complicated things that are going on and
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  Speaker 2: so many interesting things. You could score on almost any play.
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  Speaker 2: If you have to say a running play, you've got
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  Speaker 2: five or six different things going on with individual players.
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  Speaker 2: There's complication and intrigue on it. Even in a baseball game,
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  Speaker 2: there's so many different components and things that can happen
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  Speaker 2: at any time, whereas in soccer, it's just they've been
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  Speaker 2: trying to force us to like a game in which
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  Speaker 2: you've got this big, giant field in which more most
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  Speaker 2: of the game is just going back and forth, back
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  Speaker 2: and forth, back and forth, a few chances for scoring,
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  Speaker 2: and hardly any goals. Ever, so I don't much like soccer.
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  Speaker 2: I like it to the extent that I like any sport.
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  Speaker 2: I don't much like soccer because I don't much like soccer,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm tired of people telling me that that's somehow
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  Speaker 2: my flaw, as opposed to me sizing this up and
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  Speaker 2: saying I've decided that this is a game I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to pay much attention to. I don't pay much
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  Speaker 2: attention to the game of lacrosse, I don't pay much
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  Speaker 2: attention to rugby. Nothing in any of those games has
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: tripped my trigger. But because the whole world has been
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: into soccer, we've been told that we have to be
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  Speaker 2: against soccer. The one thing that I think does make
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: soccer great is it is a truly global sport that
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: almost every nation plays. So therefore, when you have an
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: international event like the World Cup, it's a battle of
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: all the countries. In the world, and almost all of
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: them play soccer. Only the best countries get to have
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: a team that come in. They have been talking about
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  Speaker 2: expanding it, which I would think would be a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: Why not, you know, since the World Cup at all
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  Speaker 2: these preliminary games, why not put in ninety six teams.
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  Speaker 2: Why not put in one hundred and forty or whatever
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  Speaker 2: and just have a full tournament. I think clearly they
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: showed that they could sell out all of the games
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  Speaker 2: by scouting them around, and it probably would only be
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: one or two additional games, right, I mean, they've the
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  Speaker 2: same thing's been happening in the NCAA basketball tournament forever,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: the expanding and expanding it and expanding it. I would
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: not have a problem with college basketball eliminating the conference
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: tournaments altogether and just letting every team be in the
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: NCAA Championship. You would only really need two additional games
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: to whittle the field. To go from two fifty six
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: to sixty four is just two games, right, Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 2: And I'd get rid of the conference tournaments. I'd look
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: at rid of the conference tournaments and let every team
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: be in there so you have a crappy season it's
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: just like high school basketball. Every high school basketball team
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: gets to play on the state tournament, no matter how
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: good or how bad you are, And every now and
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: then a Cinderella team emerges in goes farther than you
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  Speaker 2: would think that they would go. All right, that's it
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  Speaker 2: you on Wednesday. Talk to you then.
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