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  it's live, huh? All right, again, thanks for
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  listening and tuning in. Got a very important show for
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  you today. As always here on the Trench
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  Talk Edition. Let's see what's going on in
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  life today. I was sharing offline about one
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  of the things that I do throughout the week.
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  Twice a week now, Mondays and Fridays, I mentor 4th and 5th
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  graders around emotional intelligence and just some of
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  the conversations that I hear the children discuss.
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  I reflect back when I was in the 4th grade.
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  I mean, we all have our are eras of, of generational things that
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  we deal with in school. However, it's just some of these
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  conversations that I hear these 4th and 5th graders having.
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  They're like adult topics. Like these are not like children
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  just playing and having fun. They are at like literally
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  having discussions and issues and circumstances at 9 and 10
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  years old that you would think that like where are you learning
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  this from? But as you look at, of course,
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  you know, today's generation with social media, just with
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  things that go on at home. I mean, they hear the music.
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  I mean, it comes from all different aspects of life, I'm
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  sure. But this year, it was last year
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  I did it. It was, it was different this
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  year that just, and even the principles, like there's
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  something going on this right now and very emotional, very the
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  language a couple weeks ago, I had to address the N word with
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  them. And these are a, a group of, you
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  know, between sometimes between 19 to 24 students that we have
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  each week. And like I said, as a, as a, as
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  a grandfather now with, with grandchildren and a five year
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  old grandson, it's like, man, like how do we, how do we help
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  develop our children to where they have the ability to have
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  the space to share 'cause I'm, I don't think they act like that
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  at home. I think they probably hear that
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  in their environment and then come to school and then play it
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  out. But yeah, this year has just
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  been, it's just been different this year for me.
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  And I, I get an hour a week with them.
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  So like 2 hours since it's twice a week now.
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  And I'm just grateful that I'm, I'm able to do that and plant
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  that seed while I'm there to, to just share, you know, life.
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  And, and, and again, they have these affirmations that they
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  say, I, I'm respectful of myself, my peers, my family and
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  my community. And they got them all memorized.
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  But when I came on the scene, I wanted them to talk about and
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  express what it is to be respectful of myself.
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  And what does it feel like when you're not being respectful of
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  myself or of your peers or of your family or your community?
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  And believe me, they know what's going on.
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  They all have, you know, they're different words that they use to
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  describe their experience of what that is and, and, and to
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  hear them share like ways of how they feel when they're not being
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  respectful, even of themselves or their peers.
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  But yet they act like, they don't even act like they like
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  it's just a totally different act on the other side of that.
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  So they know what's going on, but to get them to practice
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  being present to that experience and how you can leave a person.
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  Yeah, we say that, you know what can make you mad or make you
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  anything? Yes.
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  But you have to have that, that strength and that
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  self-confidence and self love for those words not to affect
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  you. But if they but words are
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  powerful, right? And so they do know how they
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  feel in their emotional mindset. But, you know, just creating
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  that space for them to have that talk.
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  I pray that that's enough that, you know, that will start them
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  to get to practice that throughout their classroom
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  because of course it it plays on in the classroom.
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  It plays on on the basketball court playing football.
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  So that's what I'm up to. That's twice a week.
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  The lit live show, the Revolution radio show that has
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  came to an end. That was a four year run over
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  there when it was Dash radio. Now it turned to Lit Live and
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  between the MC Knights and The Who curated that Channel in the
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  negotiations of the new Lit Live platform, they did not come to
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  terms. And so that show has been
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  discontinued for now. I am thinking about bringing it
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  here to MBR, the Christian hip hop talk show.
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  So I'm either going to do that or I, I did send it to SiriusXM
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  to see what, you know, what I could get over there.
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  They do have a Christian hip hop talk show on their app and so I
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  sent it over there. Or I might just take a break.
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  You know, I got, I got a list of shows that I do and so I might
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  just take a break with that one. I'm praying on that to see how
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  that one plays out. What else?
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  Sunday nights, of course, 8:00 PM Pacific Time, KCA radio on
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  that one. The Steel live, that's the
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  variety show with sports as well.
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  That's my, that's my #1 show. This as well.
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  That's my #1 show. Yeah.
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  What else? The Beyond 2D will be coming
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  back soon. Jessica took a break.
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  So that one is on break right now.
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  So we'll be back either this month or next month, but I'll
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  let you know when that comes out.
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  I think that's it. The ABA basketball teams, yeah,
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  we have three ABA basketball teams in EQ athletics.
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  And so we have the Ventura County Orcas, the Riverside
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  County Mavericks and the in the Empire Hounds, the IA Hounds
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  right now my, my partners are only allowing me to launch the
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  IE hounds right now. I, I do want to launch the
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  Riverside team and I would love to launch the Ventura County
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  Orcas as well. But what I did was I, I included
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  them into the ownership. And so now I, I, I don't get the
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  only vote anymore. So I have to share in those
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  conversations. So if I get out voted, I get out
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  voted. So right now we're launching the
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  IE Hounds for sure. They were number 10 out of the
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  entire, out of the 150 teams in the ABA last season.
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  They were #10 up to #5. So we want to keep that momentum
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  going. And also I did, we created a
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  campaign for this season called For the Love of Dogs.
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  And you know, me and one of my partners, Doctor Bonds were
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  talking one day and you know, I've, I've had to put my dog
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  down, my Boxer down after 14 years.
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  And he was talking about how he had his dog for like 17 years.
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  And so we were just, we noticed that both of us was still kind
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  of grieving our animals. And you know, but the eye hounds
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  being the dog, a dog, I was like, well, why don't we just
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  create a campaign and and around in all the different services
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  for dogs and kind of and bring those conversations to the
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  forefront, especially those who have grieving their animals as
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  as we are. And so we're working on
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  launching the campaign for this season for the love of dogs and
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  this we're going to be touching aspects all the way from
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  breeders all the way to the the veterinarians and of course,
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  those places that cremate animals as well.
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  So we're going to get all those communities together, the foster
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  organizations, all the organizations, things that are
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  related to animals, to dogs for sure.
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  We're going to bring them together with our entertainment
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  is basketball and share a lot of stories, share some content,
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  share some information, some resources.
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  I've been looking at stuff on on social media and I guess there's
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  some issues with the president and cutting funding for the
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  animal shelters. So there are things going on in
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  the world around our animals. And so we're going to kick it
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  off with dogs and they were going to ease the cat cat inside
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  of there because I mean, I'm, I'm 55, when I grew up, you
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  didn't have a dog and a cat in the same house because somebody
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  was going to get eaten that day. But people have trained their
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  animals to share the same living space.
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  And so I'm always amazed when I see a dog or a cat hanging out
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  together because like I said in my day, Nah, that that didn't
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  happen. And when I had my dog, for sure
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  that cat was going to be somebody's dinner.
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  So those are the things that we're going to be taking on for
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  the the ABA, that's the American Basketball Association.
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  It's still around. And then we have a couple of
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  franchises over there. I think that's it for now.
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  So, yeah, if you want more information about the sickle
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  cell trade, of course, you can go to WDCON, set.org.
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  There have been some breakthrough conversations
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  around sickle cell trade for sure, because they're starting
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  to document that with sickle cell trait and exercising and
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  the rhythm myelosis. There have been people dying of
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  course from those complications. But the kidneys are are become a
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  problem because the proteins that has been urine in in I mean
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  blood in the urine. And so they're associating some
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  of those issues and even the rare kidney cancer is triggered
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  by sickle cell traits. So they're starting to pay more
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  attention to it because it is causing health complications.
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  So it is not benign. We've been battling that
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  conversation since I've been at at 14 years.
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  Is sickle cell trait benign or not?
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  And so it took, it took some studies from overseas in the UK,
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  not in the United States, but took some studies overseas for
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  them to come together and document that, yes, there could
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  be some problems with sickle cell trait in the kidneys.
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  And, and we've seen people have complications and, and a rare
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  kidney cancer that's connected to sickle cell trait.
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  Oh, somebody put, they put, people have trained their
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  animals pissed on the toilet. Yeah, I've, I've seen videos of
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  animals using the toilet. They don't flush the toilet, but
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  they definitely use the toilet. All right, so we going to play
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  one more PSA and come back. I have a very important
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  conversation for you coming up next.
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  Of course, Big Dre is here. We got another guest coming on
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  at the bottom of the hour about the 45 minute mark and we'll
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  just be having a organic dialogues here.
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  So again, thanks for tuning in. This is the front dose show.
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  through there. All right, we'll be right back.
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  Hey, Mister man, how you doing? Hey, did you see the game last
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  night? But did you see the shot?
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  I lost money from that. Oh man, the shot was old man,
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  but it was good. Yeah, what's the name?
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  You really want to know. I do.
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  Exhaustion, muscle spasm, asthmatic issues, unexpected
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  sickle cell trait trait. Damn are.
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  You serious? When I was young I found out I
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  had sickle cell trait. My mom's told me but I didn't
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  have no knowledge of it. But when I got older I had a
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  child and the doctor told me my daughter had sickle cell trait.
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  You know the. Fact that both parents have
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  sickle cell trait, there's a 50% chance the child may have the
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  trait and 25% chance of trying to have the disease.
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  And that's what's the count. Do you know that 2.5 million
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  people in the United States have sickle cell trait?
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  300 million people globally. I didn't find out I had sickle
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  cell trait until I was in the Army 10 years.
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  Next thing you know, I had a sickle cell trait, exertion
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  site, simple cell. I thought that was a black gene.
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  Or something. Nah man, the black community is
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  number 21 out of 36,000 babies are being born with sickle cell
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  disease. You could be a Caucasian,
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  Mediterranean, European. You got a bloodline, man.
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  There is an inherited gene in our community that has been
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  forgotten. The name is Sickle cell trait.
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  WDCONSCT, also known as What's the Count, is out to bring
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  awareness, education and prevention to people all over
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  the globe. Want more information?
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  Call us now at 323-215-5384 or visit www.wdconsct.org.
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  All right, welcome back to the Frondosa Show on MB Radio.
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  well for all the different shows here on MB Radio.
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  So today's topic is, you know, it's, it's very important.
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  I, I, I lightly glazed over the conversation that I do with the
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  elementary school students because it, like I said, I'm
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  just, I'm just so shocked at their conversation.
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  But really, really at the core of today's topic, I believe it
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  is, you know, what is going on with us as people today, right?
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  And for me, when I, the work that I've done on myself to, to,
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  to be in front of you, that sense of belonging is important,
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  right? And so we know that we all
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  experience some little level of being bullied.
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  We all experience some conversations if we tell the
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  truth to our self that we all experience sometimes not being
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  good enough. So there's something wrong with
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  me. I'm on my own.
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  We want to trust people, but however, I don't really trust
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  myself. So, and really, when I, when I
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  did the research biblically, bigly, I'm not supposed to trust
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  in man anyway. I'm supposed to have confidence
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  in you. I'm not supposed to put all that
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  trust in you because it there's expectations or things that
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  happened. I mean, we're flawed as people,
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  but at some point, what drives a person, what drives a person to
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  want to take another person's life or what level of anger or
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  what level of disappointment or despair does one have to get
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  that that has them want to take another person's life in any, in
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  any circumstance, right? In any level, in any age
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  bracket, right. So the little girl that we
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  talked to on Monday, she's, we discovered for her to be kind of
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  like the ringleader of the, of the, of the, the, the group.
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  And when we asked her like, you know, what's going on, you know,
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  things like that. And she says, well, I was
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  bullied at the, I was bullied at the other school.
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  And so now at this school, to protect herself, she's angry and
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  and she comes across as with her anger, she leads with that upset
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  and that frustration because she was bullied at another school.
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  Now that's not saying it's right or wrong, but we're pointing to
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  is her experience. And so we we talk about it, you
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  know, we glaze over these conversations, but what is
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  really at the root of a person's mindset that gets them to the
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  point of where they want to do harm to another person?
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  What is that? Because the commandments are
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  those #1 and #2 is to love God and to love your neighbors as
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  the same as you love yourself. So how much does one have to
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  love themselves or not love themselves to take another
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  person's life? And we see it all day long.
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  But we have a guest today who's going to share some information
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  and some of his background and, and what he's discovered and
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  some of the things he's experienced around.
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  I believe this top this topic because at the end of the day,
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  and we're human beings, we want to belong, we want to be
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  included. But there are things that
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  happened to us that sometimes our minds make these corrupted
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  decisions and then we start living from these upsets and
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  these frustrations and, and that can cause another person to want
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  to harm another person. And then you have mass
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  shootings. We have things that happen at
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  school. We have all these different
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  things that the media, you know, displays for us.
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  And then how do we take that? Do we tolerate those
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  conversations because it hasn't hit, it hasn't hit my front door
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  yet? Or do we really, you know,
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  search and try to figure out how we can help these subjects?
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  And for me, teaching that emotional intelligence, even at
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  that level of 4th and 5th graders, you know, we pray every
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  day that that they hear and apply something that they hear
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  from us at those schools. So with no further ado, our
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  special guest today is Mr. Bart Womack.
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  Man, how you doing today? Doing well by yourself?
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  I'm good, I'm good. Thank you for hanging out today
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  with us. Yeah, I appreciate you having
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  me. And me, I'm so enthralled with
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  what you've been talking about so far and everything.
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  I'm like, what am I going to go with this?
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  I want to jump in on some of that other stuff.
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  Yeah. Yeah, do me a favor, introduce
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  yourself, and then we'll get started.
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  How's that? Yeah.
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  So I'm Bart Womack commenced our men retired and I say so I may
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  watch her for over 29 1/2 years, honorably retired in 2006.
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  Did did various things since retirement.
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  But now I'm a public speaker and security consultant to provide
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  proactive situation awareness strategies to mitigate insider
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  threat and mass shooting attacks in academic institutions, the
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  workplace, in places of worship. And I, like I said this, this
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  has been going on for since I've been born.
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  I mean, this, this is not brand new conversation.
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  But before we get into that, why that that why you're here?
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  What? What had you joined the service
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  so long ago? Yeah, well, it was, it was, it
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  wasn't intentional. You know, I was 17 when I
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  graduated high school and I was always working like I had a
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  paper route, you know, going way back, that long paper route for
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  your audience, you had to put some down the shoulder.
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  So you don't say what about it is it is a paper, a newspaper
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  route? What is that thing?
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  And I always, I always work, right?
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  So I told myself because I was 17, I'm going to continue to
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  work for a year. And then when I'm 18, you know,
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  after a year that I would go to college, right?
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  So I didn't make it to that year end up joining the military.
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  And that happened by the fact that I was my next oldest
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  brother had wrecked a car and I used to drive to work and then I
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  had to start catching the bus. I was in between transfers bus
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  and went to recruiter's office. And because it was cold, I went
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  in there to get warm. And they had the whole spiel.
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  You know, one thing led to another and then probably a
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  total of four months later, you know there was in the military.
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  Yeah, wow. Anybody before you proceed, it
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  was in the. Oldest brother had served in the
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  Navy, but so he's like 19 years older than me.
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  So his time and doing it and me actually, I, I never saw him in
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  uniform. So he was in and out and I
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  didn't know anything. I mean, I knew that he had
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  served, but he didn't really talk about anything.
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  So it wasn't like, you know, military family by any means.
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  I wasn't following anybody. I was I was super naive about
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  the military got invasion tried and said, hey, we had have this
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  airborne school or this airborne orientation and I said, what's
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  everyone said jumping out airplanes.
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  I'm undergoing to that. Then it said they paid 55.
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  I was mother like where I going? Where do I sign?
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  I'm chief $55. That was it.
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  OK, I'm ready. Yeah, I I mean to make it to the
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  rank of command * major. I mean, that's, that's the top
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  of the chart looking back on, on each level of rank, if you can
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  remember, how was that for you? I, I, I know for myself, the,
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  the pride and me and my identity going from E4 to E5 from that
• 23:25
  next, that, that level of responsibility, I think for me
• 23:28
  is where I noticed when I, when I reflect back that I, I kind of
• 23:32
  lost myself in, in, in that rank, in that responsibility
• 23:37
  that I became like Sergeant, you know, Sergeant dossier, like I
• 23:40
  became Sergeant, staff Sergeant like, because I say that because
• 23:43
  in my transition out of the service, when that rank in that
• 23:46
  uniform was taken away from my medical retirement, I, I was
• 23:50
  all, I was didn't know who I was.
• 23:52
  So, you know, looking back from your level and looking back, do
• 23:56
  you notice like for you that the different changing 'cause you
• 23:59
  went through the whole, you went through the whole list?
• 24:02
  Yeah, yeah. I think we're always given some
• 24:06
  leadership challenge or opportunity long before we are
• 24:11
  actually in a leadership position and and it's around us.
• 24:15
  So we see it. So we get to make a decision for
• 24:19
  ourselves about how we're going to approach that, you know, when
• 24:22
  it's our turn, even if they're the smallest task, take four
• 24:25
  guys over there and do police call, like how you're going to
• 24:26
  do that, right? Especially when they're your
• 24:28
  peers. So you learn long before you put
• 24:29
  the rank on. So when I put the rank on it, it
• 24:32
  didn't feel any different. The pain, you knew that was
• 24:37
  coming, but did everything else feel any different?
• 24:40
  OK, leading people. But you had done it to a degree,
• 24:43
  you know, so you were comfortable doing it.
• 24:45
  You didn't have, you know, a lot of people as a Sergeant.
• 24:48
  So I, I felt pretty comfortable doing it.
• 24:51
  And then long and behold, shortly after that, you know, I,
• 24:55
  I put in to be a drill Sergeant. I, I was AI was a drill Sergeant
• 25:00
  as a Sergeant. So I'm not sure if you can do
• 25:02
  that now. And I.
• 25:04
  Was 23 years old. Oh wow.
• 25:07
  Yeah, I was a drill Sergeant for two years, about nine months I
• 25:11
  was a Sergeant. The rest of the time I was a
• 25:13
  staff Sergeant, but I started at 23 my my years as drill
• 25:17
  Sergeant, ages 23 to 25. So now, now, now that was
• 25:22
  different. You know, I remember that in
• 25:24
  terms of leadership, because you're taking people who just
• 25:26
  come off the street, don't know anything about the military and
• 25:28
  you have to teach them everything in this eight week
• 25:30
  period of time. So now it's now it's a little
• 25:33
  bit different and they haven't been LED or if they hadn't have
• 25:35
  been LED in this style. And then you have to develop
• 25:38
  your style as a drill Sard versus, you know, versus the
• 25:42
  sardine is completely different. Like it, it's, it's a, you know,
• 25:45
  what's the persona, you know, you're leading the country's men
• 25:49
  and women and you, you, you're, you're making them a soldiers
• 25:52
  going to go out there to a fighting force.
• 25:54
  And you learn very, very quickly that you, you just came from
• 25:58
  that side and you don't want, you don't want a unit getting
• 26:03
  someone who's unfit, untrained, not ready for the military,
• 26:07
  etcetera, etcetera, even though they're going to go into the IT
• 26:09
  and all that type of stuff afterwards.
• 26:10
  So there's another influence of leadership that's involved in
• 26:13
  when you get the permanent party, but still, if you allow
• 26:18
  them to go to AIT, you have to be responsible for that.
• 26:22
  So, so I remember, you know, later on at time first class
• 26:26
  when I was a tourist on and you're getting a new soldier and
• 26:28
  you're like, who's your drill sock?
• 26:29
  I'm going to go smack him in the face.
• 26:32
  Yeah. Especially, you know, imagery
• 26:35
  guy. Imagery guy, right.
• 26:36
  So they come out of ULSA, but they had the same drill, saw him
• 26:39
  for 13 weeks. Like I'm going to slap him in
• 26:41
  the face because he screwed up. But that's the, that's the,
• 26:47
  that's the, that's what you have to embrace as a drill saw.
• 26:51
  And they had to do that at a very young age.
• 26:54
  I, I didn't, I didn't think about the age.
• 26:56
  It was like, well, after my time where I was, I was that old.
• 27:02
  Yeah, pretty good. You know, so I'm not rating
• 27:06
  myself. I'm just saying I could look at
• 27:08
  some 23 year olds and say you there's some things you're ready
• 27:12
  for and some things you aren't ready for, you know what I mean?
• 27:14
  So yeah, so, so that was, that was that's probably when I knew
• 27:19
  I wasn't definitely in charge of people because it was completely
• 27:21
  different than what you had to where you got them and where you
• 27:24
  had to take them to. Right then left there, staff
• 27:26
  started, went to Korea. Now I'm on the now I'm on the
• 27:29
  building, the frontline of Korea where you were actually in and
• 27:33
  out of the JSA with the, with the, you know what enemy, you
• 27:36
  know, the Korean people's Army, right?
• 27:38
  So that that's different when you're squatting literally and
• 27:40
  denying people, you have a real mission that can pop off at any
• 27:43
  time, you know, and it didn't pop off.
• 27:45
  I won't get an act because it's it's it's a short, long story,
• 27:48
  but it it takes a path, but different level of leadership
• 27:52
  when you know you have to do certain things and there's a
• 27:55
  real enemy there and he hadn't done anything in a while.
• 27:57
  But while I was there, we actually got in a firefight with
• 28:00
  the KPAI can say a long story long time ago, but it's that
• 28:04
  level of preparedness that your squad has to be and you have to
• 28:08
  be as a leader, you know, So it's you know, it's eye opening
• 28:11
  and completely different, you know, sort of level and what's
• 28:16
  what's unique about that. And the same thing when you're
• 28:17
  when you're squad leader, you know, you've been the team
• 28:19
  leader, you've been to Joe, you know, all those duties and
• 28:22
  responsibilities. So now you can you can say that
• 28:25
  I won't actually do anything that I haven't done or not
• 28:28
  willing to do. But more importantly, I've
• 28:30
  already, you know, so can't you question, can't.
• 28:33
  You question? Not at that level, no.
• 28:36
  I can perform it right now if I need to show you, but I don't
• 28:39
  think I need to show you. I'm going to tell you you're
• 28:42
  going to do it, but I'm going to tell you that man.
• 28:44
  Will you believe that? Not only do I know what I'm
• 28:47
  talking about, but he actually did, you know.
• 28:49
  So then you have to relay at the squad.
• 28:52
  You know, they come in cognate they're filling their owns too,
• 28:55
  as as a new staff starting and stuff, right, I've been charging
• 28:58
  more people. Now you know what's not?
• 29:00
  You know what, I didn't charge of a team anymore in charge of a
• 29:01
  whole squad. There's more people
• 29:03
  responsibility and after a while, if they're really good,
• 29:06
  they're looking at your job and and I welcome that.
• 29:08
  You know, I'm I'm trying to transmitting me.
• 29:10
  So when I'm not here is going to be taken care of.
• 29:12
  So, but that's what happens each time you go up, you know, then
• 29:16
  your first arms, the same thing with those platoon Sorens.
• 29:19
  And they're little, they're, they're obviously they're
• 29:21
  smarter than a squad leader, but they know they have expectations
• 29:26
  of what the first arms should be.
• 29:28
  And likewise, they've done that job for a year and a half, 18
• 29:32
  months, couple years. They're eyeballing your job.
• 29:35
  They know they need the rank for it.
• 29:36
  And they're like, could you please like be sick for a day so
• 29:39
  I can just. Just be sick one day.
• 29:44
  Just one day. Give me one day.
• 29:47
  I was first on 'cause no one even says how long right it was
• 29:50
  like how long right I was. Yeah, it was actually 23 hours.
• 29:54
  The dude came back an hour, hour early or whatever, right.
• 29:58
  Anyway, but, but, but if it, it keeps you sharp because you
• 30:06
  know, you, you have to go out there and perform every day.
• 30:09
  Everybody's looking at you. Now, we always talk about the
• 30:11
  thing and you're talking about this with those, those students
• 30:14
  in terms of leadership. It's one thing to say, lead from
• 30:20
  the front, be the example and all that type of stuff.
• 30:22
  And it's another thing to say, do it as if, no, do the right
• 30:27
  thing when nobody's watching, but easier to say than it is to
• 30:32
  do. And that was, that was, it
• 30:35
  wasn't the hardest thing. I, I prided myself on actually
• 30:38
  doing that like 24/7 weekends. I might be seen I need to do the
• 30:46
  right thing soon as I'm not doing that at the first arm or
• 30:49
  point as a commands arm major like you, you, your credibility
• 30:53
  is gone #1 and you've created a new standard.
• 30:57
  But you have to live. Not everybody does even the same
• 31:01
  ranks they they everybody does not live it.
• 31:05
  You have to live it. I think that's the separation,
• 31:07
  not not that you're out there like I'm trying to be better or
• 31:09
  separate myself. You have to live it and that
• 31:12
  will show in your soldiers in in the entire post is going to see
• 31:18
  that dude lives that not overboard, not overboard.
• 31:23
  I'm just saying. Not overboard.
• 31:24
  Yeah, exactly. Not overboard, but.
• 31:27
  You're not going to catch me, but I can stay in front of, you
• 31:30
  know, those 4000 troops and say you ain't going to never catch
• 31:32
  me because I'm not doing it. I'm getting caught.
• 31:36
  You're never going to see me do it because I don't.
• 31:41
  It's that level of, of leadership that builds, you
• 31:45
  know, more credibility and really not that you now that
• 31:48
  you're trying to do this in the Army, but you know, it builds a
• 31:51
  brand of, of leader. No kidding.
• 31:57
  And and that's, and that's really, you know, what we want
• 32:00
  in, in our society, you know, and, and, and as you describe
• 32:03
  that, as you say that for me, I've learned to not just do
• 32:07
  that, but to be that and, and experience being that.
• 32:10
  And that's what people, because like you say, your character is,
• 32:13
  is inside of that. And if you get, if you get
• 32:15
  caught doing something, you know, that could mess it, that
• 32:18
  could fracture your character, that could fracture all of that
• 32:21
  stuff that you've built with that little place with those
• 32:23
  soldiers. So, yeah, no, thank you for
• 32:26
  that. That's very, very important.
• 32:27
  So one of the main reasons why you're here is, is to discuss
• 32:31
  some of these topics. And I, I know I want, I want to
• 32:38
  touch on the mental aspect of it, but I want, I want you to
• 32:40
  kind of open up the discussion and then I'll, I'll kind of
• 32:43
  follow along and, and, and ask my questions from there.
• 32:46
  But what do you want to start around this question, this
• 32:48
  conversation of? Yeah, I'll, I'll show this story
• 32:52
  of what people see in the background.
• 32:54
  You can see the embedded, pardon.
• 32:55
  You see a little bit of those letters, but it's embedded in
• 32:58
  here, which is the story of the March 23rd, 2003 insider threat
• 33:02
  attack against 101st Airborne Division by a fellow American
• 33:07
  soldier. So we we were poised, we were in
• 33:09
  Kuwait during across the border going to Iraq.
• 33:11
  You know, it's one O clock in the morning.
• 33:14
  A scenario grenade comes into my tent followed by a frag grenade.
• 33:18
  Chaos ensues the grenades throwing into the next tent.
• 33:21
  There's just a gunshot and then the grenades going throwing to
• 33:26
  the next tent. So at this point in another
• 33:28
  gunshot. So this .2 have been shot.
• 33:31
  Frag grenades have gone into three different tents where
• 33:33
  people are sleeping, the first being mine and that's all shot.
• 33:38
  The, the commander is hit by shrapnel and that first tent I,
• 33:44
  I managed somehow to get out of here about going through through
• 33:47
  all the details right in the second tent after hearing a
• 33:51
  gunshot and and frag grenade, they begin to stand up.
• 33:54
  So grenades thrown in there through them.
• 33:56
  Get it pretty good in there. Then that same thing happens in
• 33:59
  the third tent. So we're searching for
• 34:00
  insurgents, not been able to find them at all.
• 34:04
  And just just Fast forward, we have mass casualties going on
• 34:07
  and trying to get them medevac out of there.
• 34:10
  So complete and utter chaos. I realized something had to have
• 34:13
  changed in the camp. So what changed?
• 34:15
  The learning interpreters come in that night, so it has to be
• 34:17
  them. Go find them.
• 34:18
  We find them, interrogate and learn to have nothing to do with
• 34:21
  it. So now we're back on the
• 34:22
  insurgents that we've seen. No sign up.
• 34:26
  Then we do accountability check and learn the one person is
• 34:29
  missing. So are grenades, ammunition.
• 34:31
  That becomes our #1 suspect. And of course we find out that
• 34:35
  it was one of our own soldiers who committed the attack.
• 34:38
  He has one of the reasons for doing it that we later found out
• 34:42
  two years after that in the trial we had written anti
• 34:46
  American things. I'll read a couple to you.
• 34:51
  I do not like the military that had too much control over
• 34:53
  people's lives. I suppose I'm just anti
• 34:55
  government. I wrote that in 1990.
• 34:57
  Three. 1996 he wrote anyone who stands in front of me, she'll be
• 35:00
  considered the enemy and dealt with accordingly. 1996 he writes
• 35:04
  Destroying America was my plan as a child and as a juvenile and
• 35:07
  in college on life will not be completed as America is
• 35:10
  destroyed. Destroying America is my
• 35:12
  greatest goal. 1998 he joins the military.
• 35:15
  So this was planned, you know, so we're thinking like we're
• 35:20
  thinking after he's captured like what what did he put out
• 35:23
  there? What was the sign that that we
• 35:25
  that we missed? Well, we didn't miss a sign
• 35:27
  because man, this all along long before he even joined the
• 35:31
  military. So once in the military again,
• 35:34
  this happened March 23rd 2003 in February, he wrote in his diary,
• 35:39
  I'm not going to do anything as long as I stay here at Fort
• 35:41
  Campbell. But as soon as I'm in Iraq, I'm
• 35:43
  going to try to kill as many of them as possible.
• 35:46
  He ends up killing two and wounded thirteen others.
• 35:50
  So we start getting thinking about the mindset of a person
• 35:52
  who does this. Now, why do you why, why are you
• 35:56
  anti government? Why are you anti military?
• 35:59
  Why do you hate America and, and you're American more important,
• 36:02
  why do you join the military? You know, so religion doesn't
• 36:06
  pull the trigger, but you know, it was his religious beliefs.
• 36:10
  He even went on to say that you guys are coming into our country
• 36:13
  and you're going to kill our women and rape our children.
• 36:17
  That's what we said after after we caught them and I had to
• 36:21
  digest what is OUR our mean. Like I said, it was all put
• 36:26
  together later at the trial when we learned that he had those
• 36:29
  things in his diary. So, so my take away from that
• 36:31
  was that, you know, no profession, level of education,
• 36:34
  ideology or religion is above reproach.
• 36:36
  There is no profile inside a threat as closer than you think.
• 36:40
  You know, we would have thought that someone who wore the same
• 36:42
  uniform, took the same oath, etcetera, etcetera would be the
• 36:45
  least capable and having a mindset of doing something like
• 36:49
  this to his own fellow soldiers. But obviously not, you know, so
• 36:54
  I said take away for the world is that if it happened inside a
• 36:57
  close knit brotherhood of the armed forces that could have in
• 37:00
  any campus community or organization at any time and
• 37:03
  anywhere. Domestic terrorism is our new
• 37:05
  reality. You know, someone at the wide
• 37:08
  loss and bodies manually. You start thinking, what do I do
• 37:11
  with this? Like, what am I supposed to do
• 37:12
  with this? You know, God, God save me for a
• 37:15
  reason when other two other people that were in my team was
• 37:18
  three that they were they were wounded and others wanted, like
• 37:21
  I said, two people killed, you know, but but why me?
• 37:24
  You get that survivor's remorse. So I I knew that of course,
• 37:27
  something and so I wrote the book embedded enemy, the insider
• 37:31
  threat. And after you have the story of
• 37:36
  the book, I put in there the situation aware of the
• 37:39
  strategies to try to to enlighten people to have some
• 37:44
  tools they can use to mitigate an insider threat.
• 37:47
  And long behold, you know, mass shooter attack long before they
• 37:50
  were happened as frequently as as frequently as as they are
• 37:53
  now. So.
• 37:56
  Those strategies are trust no one.
• 37:59
  I heard you align what the Bible says about trust.
• 38:03
  I was like, wow, so poignant, so, so timely, right?
• 38:06
  And and and I didn't know that. So I appreciate you sharing
• 38:09
  that, you know, but but our strategy is trust no one.
• 38:13
  And you know, I'll see. I'm going to say that after
• 38:16
  coming out of an attack like that, if it happened in that
• 38:19
  manner, someone's supposed to supposed to have your back,
• 38:22
  shooting you in your back, like one person who killed a shot
• 38:25
  point black in the back, you know, so trust no one.
• 38:28
  And when I say that I want people to think about how they
• 38:30
  trust. I know that they're going to
• 38:31
  trust somebody. I like what you said, what the
• 38:34
  Bible says, I'm going to look that one up.
• 38:37
  But if I say trust no one, people are going to think, well,
• 38:39
  I have to trust somebody. And some people's the way they
• 38:42
  approach that is I'll trust until they give me a reason not
• 38:46
  to. I think wrong.
• 38:48
  So I say no one, they're going to think a little bit harder
• 38:52
  about how they trust. And that's what I want them to
• 38:54
  do. Start thinking about how you do
• 38:56
  it. Next one is observed listening
• 38:58
  report like we might see something, but but are we doing
• 39:02
  anything about it? And it's more than see something
• 39:04
  and say something in my opinion. Like you, you saw it happen.
• 39:09
  You might hear it or you might just see it, but then you need
• 39:12
  to report. I was an apartment building
• 39:15
  manager in in LA and you let me know how we're doing on time.
• 39:19
  And I just took over and realized this one light was was
• 39:24
  out when I came out this door, you know, and it was like
• 39:26
  January, you know, So 5:00 PM starts getting dark, right?
• 39:30
  And I realized the light wasn't on.
• 39:31
  So I go back in the building and I get a pen and a piece of
• 39:34
  paper. And I come back out again and
• 39:36
  I'm checking all the exterior lights so I can get them
• 39:39
  replaced. And I say to myself, if
• 39:41
  someone's watching me right now, they should think this is
• 39:43
  suspicious behavior. This case.
• 39:45
  I'm casing the building now, this apartment building in LA on
• 39:50
  Gately, right across, I mean, directly across the street from
• 39:53
  UCLA. Anybody have been UCLA?
• 39:58
  Most people around here don't look like me unless they play
• 40:01
  football. So you got that going on.
• 40:05
  And so I said, everyone looking at me and said thank, this is
• 40:08
  special behavior. So I go back in, come out
• 40:11
  another door, do some more checks to go back in the house
• 40:13
  and start checking into your lights, right?
• 40:15
  So I get to the fifth floor here.
• 40:17
  Freeze. Well, you know, I've been around
• 40:19
  long enough to know what that means.
• 40:21
  You know, someone's pointing a gun at you and they're behind me
• 40:23
  and I hear the voice. It sounds much younger than
• 40:24
  mine's like, OK, I'm compliant. I want them to be my experience.
• 40:28
  I want, you know, tricky finger, you know, and say put your hands
• 40:31
  up a dude, drop the pen in the paper.
• 40:33
  It has me on my back. I get handcuffed.
• 40:35
  Then they say, well, you think the one that was called in, I'm
• 40:38
  like, no, I am the description because remember, I just told
• 40:40
  myself, no, it is me. All all you did is going to
• 40:44
  happen if someone was paying attention and long and behold
• 40:47
  they were. So I applauded the person who
• 40:49
  was paying attention because it's right up the alley of
• 40:51
  observe, listen to report. There was nothing to hear but
• 40:54
  they observed. Was it to be suspicious behavior
• 40:56
  and then they reported it. Now I'm not sure who escalated
• 41:00
  to the level to have 5 police officers show up armed for the
• 41:05
  first who was called in to have a pen and a piece of paper.
• 41:10
  I don't know if that was dispatched or they had nothing
• 41:13
  else to do so everyone joined in on the call.
• 41:15
  Not sure I'm going to, so I'm coming.
• 41:17
  I don't know what that was. Anyway, in my opinion, the right
• 41:21
  thing was done. And, and so, so when I'm talking
• 41:24
  to the audiences, you know what I'm speaking.
• 41:27
  I, I, I like to share that one because the worst that happened
• 41:32
  was they got the guy, but nothing was wrong.
• 41:34
  No, again, way too many police officers showed up.
• 41:40
  You know, next one is know your neighbor alluded that and and
• 41:43
  you're in the beginning as well. And what I mean by that, I mean
• 41:46
  just the person next door, but I mean like your fellow student,
• 41:49
  your fellow, your your fellow Co worker know begin to know people
• 41:53
  the more you know about them and you have to get all in their
• 41:56
  business. But they will begin to talk.
• 41:58
  And once they begin to talk, they're going to tell you stuff.
• 42:01
  They're going to tell you something to happen at home.
• 42:02
  They're going to tell you on the way to work.
• 42:04
  So and so cut them off. That was the second time.
• 42:06
  It's the same guy on the same route.
• 42:08
  Now I got the license plate. I know somebody that's Pi.
• 42:11
  I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm, you know, if you are paying.
• 42:15
  You are listening to if you. Know them, they'll tell you
• 42:17
  right and it goes, it goes on. You know the more but just take
• 42:21
  some time to know them. Then the next one is listen,
• 42:24
  don't just hear. I used to work at a military
• 42:26
  college and these students were in the classroom, sophomores, 19
• 42:30
  year olds, criminal justice class to get on the subject of
• 42:33
  guns and see what I'm saying. I have a gun and I have a gun.
• 42:37
  This one guy says why have an AK47 and they kind of laugh and
• 42:41
  it's in the trunk of my car. Now the professor was in the
• 42:43
  classroom and he the professor knows that guns aren't allowed
• 42:47
  on campus. All right, but professor doesn't
• 42:50
  do anything, but a fellow 19 year old student was listening
• 42:57
  to the point where it sounded a matter of fact.
• 43:01
  You have to listen to where something sounds a matter of
• 43:07
  fact. Oh, why?
• 43:07
  You just hear, you know, someone told you say hey, you're trash
• 43:12
  and you don't do it right away. And they tell you three times
• 43:14
  like I know you hear me. Yeah, I hear you, but I'm not
• 43:17
  desperate to you right now. You know what I mean?
• 43:19
  So. So it's a big deal.
• 43:22
  It tells me that this is what happened in class.
• 43:25
  Someone said, yeah, AK47 instead of trunk of his car.
• 43:28
  It sounded a matter of fact. I don't know what you're going
• 43:30
  to do with it, but I, I just got to tell you, right.
• 43:33
  So almost along the lines of, of listening, your reporter, right?
• 43:37
  But more importantly, it was the listening of just hearing
• 43:39
  because there's other people in the classroom who did nothing to
• 43:41
  include the adult professor. So he walked him to his car, get
• 43:46
  about 100 yards from his car. So I just want you to know if
• 43:48
  you get to my car and the AK47 in the trunk of my car, no, no
• 43:53
  ill will was playing with that. He was supposed to link up with
• 43:56
  a buddy and take it over to his friend's house, to his friend's
• 44:00
  dad's house, who lived in a rural area.
• 44:01
  And dad was going to lock it up and they would come out there on
• 44:04
  the weekends and shoot it, but they missed the link up to
• 44:06
  death. So but his mistake was like I
• 44:09
  said, no, your neighbors and mistake was running his mouth to
• 44:14
  the point of all day, of all days of class in criminal
• 44:20
  justice class, the day they're talking about guns.
• 44:22
  Guess what you do, you do nothing.
• 44:26
  You don't talk, you know what I mean?
• 44:28
  But they will tell you if you are a situationally aware,
• 44:32
  right? And the last one is gut check.
• 44:34
  Like your gut is your strongest sense.
• 44:37
  It will, it will tell you a lot of things.
• 44:39
  So when these things happen, these shootings, right, no
• 44:42
  matter where they are, we'll hear they will.
• 44:44
  I always thought, I always thought, well, your gut hate
• 44:49
  that, you know, but you didn't do anything with it.
• 44:51
  Now we have dead people and wounded people.
• 44:54
  He even attacked 3 weeks ago, almost 3 weeks ago I think at at
• 44:57
  Florida State University. He was 2020 years old, the son,
• 45:04
  stepson of of a deputy sheriff. That's the guy he used to commit
• 45:10
  the attack. But he was in this, he was in
• 45:12
  this political group on campus there.
• 45:16
  I don't know what they meant this political group and the
• 45:20
  only rule they had was you couldn't be Nazi.
• 45:25
  That was it. And dude, begin to express
• 45:30
  extremism towards, you know, super, super, super far right.
• 45:36
  You know, politics doesn't pull the trigger here.
• 45:38
  I'm just telling you that the guy was in the group, right?
• 45:42
  And and also white Supremes. He got extreme with both to the
• 45:52
  point where the president running the group kicked him
• 45:54
  out. You know, you violated the rule.
• 45:57
  It was obnoxious, but he was so extreme with it that they kicked
• 46:01
  him out. So extreme, yeah.
• 46:03
  Yeah, but when, when did we hear about that?
• 46:05
  After he killed 7 people, eight people.
• 46:10
  That's when it injured others to me that that was the sign.
• 46:14
  You have to pay for what they're giving you.
• 46:17
  I'm paying. You're already in a group.
• 46:19
  So it's already borderline something.
• 46:21
  And I think that, you know, people have a belief and we we
• 46:26
  are encouraging people younger and younger to believe in
• 46:29
  something like believer, whatever or fall for nothing
• 46:32
  type of thing, whatever the saying is.
• 46:33
  But we encourage them to believe in something.
• 46:36
  So we shouldn't be surprised as parents.
• 46:38
  Great. And when they go out and now
• 46:39
  they're believing in the same way.
• 46:40
  I didn't mean that you're not the wrong.
• 46:42
  I meant this not that when someone got to them radicalized,
• 46:48
  radicalized is OK, you know, But then when you are so against
• 46:54
  someone else who's not for what you were for, and then you
• 46:57
  become extreme about it. And after extreme, it just go
• 47:00
  just a matter of time. And that, and that's what
• 47:03
  happened to him now, he didn't even kill people.
• 47:05
  That was against what he was against.
• 47:07
  Two of the people that he killed was a, a, a guy there for the
• 47:12
  day to he, he provided all the food and stuff in the cafeteria.
• 47:17
  He ran that contract and he was walking around outside with the
• 47:21
  like the cafeteria manager. He didn't know if they how they
• 47:24
  were aligned or anything like that.
• 47:27
  But when you become extreme, it's just a matter of time.
• 47:32
  And when you become extreme, you don't just sit at home and
• 47:35
  become extreme. It'll happen like that.
• 47:38
  You've got to do something, to tell somebody something.
• 47:40
  So that's why we had to be situation aware, you know.
• 47:43
  So when I came up with these strategies, when the book came
• 47:45
  out in 2013, it's still new because you just got to find out
• 47:49
  about it, right? I didn't even, I began to find
• 47:53
  them at the time. They would be relevant for quite
• 47:55
  some time because while I was writing the book, I began to
• 48:00
  watch what I perceive to be inside a threat attacks.
• 48:04
  So I'm not talking about every shooting going on is one.
• 48:07
  I'm saying if it follows the model and it follows that these
• 48:11
  strategies can help them mitigate it, then in the lines
• 48:14
  with it, then I'll talk about and I'll use it as an example.
• 48:17
  So I had hope that it would, that the strategies would, would
• 48:26
  last for a while and, and, and be able to work in these
• 48:30
  situations. I, I couldn't fathom at the
• 48:33
  level of attacks that that have happened since that time.
• 48:38
  I, I, I did not see that. Yeah.
• 48:42
  But to this day, no one's the wiser in in an academic
• 48:46
  institution or the workplace about these attacks because they
• 48:49
  they don't even know that's just about these straight.
• 48:52
  They don't know about anything because no one talks about that.
• 48:54
  That that's why they're proactive.
• 48:56
  Yeah, exactly. Run high and fight once the
• 48:59
  bullets start. But you need that too.
• 49:01
  But when I'm talking about, we'll stop it before it happens.
• 49:04
  Let's stop the shooting. What leads what?
• 49:06
  Leads up to that, Yeah. What's with the patterns that
• 49:09
  leads up to that, right? And.
• 49:11
  You think about the risk of that little group, right?
• 49:14
  And this guy, this guy is this. The disposition was so bad they
• 49:19
  kicked him out, but he didn't go tell anybody on campus like we
• 49:24
  have this ticking time bomb that feels this way.
• 49:28
  Watch out if you are getting you didn't tell anybody, right?
• 49:32
  So that's why I, I, I watched the attack and I wait two or
• 49:35
  three days as they do their investigation because that same
• 49:39
  type thing comes out all the time after the fact.
• 49:43
  After the fact. After the fact.
• 49:45
  The fact after the fact, yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, you
• 49:50
  know, we say we, we, we communicate well, but
• 49:56
  communication is all also listening.
• 50:00
  And we say that we're good listeners, but a lot of times we
• 50:03
  listen to react or to respond. And like you say, you miss those
• 50:08
  key descriptions, those keywords that people say that are on a,
• 50:15
  on a, on a level of extreme versus just a casual
• 50:18
  conversation. Like we, we, we overlook those
• 50:21
  even with our, you know, with our children, you know, with,
• 50:24
  with our, with our loved ones, Like we don't, we hear them.
• 50:29
  But like you said, I, I believe it is there's, there's a level
• 50:34
  of still a level of confidence, a level of self-confidence that
• 50:38
  has to be had for me to say, hey, you know what man, I heard
• 50:41
  you say that. What's going on with you like
• 50:42
  that? That's a different kind of
• 50:44
  person than to be like I heard it and then let it go.
• 50:48
  That's a level of I'd like to tell students that it is cool to
• 50:52
  be correct. I I need you to step in some
• 50:55
  things that are said beg a question.
• 50:58
  Some things that are done in front of you beg a question.
• 51:01
  UNL be a student in in ANBA class comes in in all black
• 51:06
  fatigues in military boots and all that in the NBA.
• 51:11
  That's fine if the subject was that, right?
• 51:15
  But teacher, that professor doesn't say nothing.
• 51:18
  Fellow students don't say a word.
• 51:20
  Now nothing happened. But in your eyes, in this class,
• 51:25
  when a person wears this and hadn't worn that before, it begs
• 51:28
  the question, I don't care if you make a joke about the
• 51:31
  question, but this is the education that that that
• 51:33
  students and people need. They're not they don't they
• 51:36
  can't think fast enough to be sad enough to say you can make a
• 51:38
  joke. Like, OK, do you have an
• 51:40
  audition as a military guy? Did you just join special forces
• 51:44
  or you dealt it or you me, you can make a joke about it, but it
• 51:47
  begs the question, let's hear what's coming out of their mouth
• 51:50
  because we don't know if they're going to go to wherever we go
• 51:52
  right back with the gun. It, you know, they they're
• 51:54
  making an assessment then having this class next week.
• 51:57
  I was coming soon, you know, I gave a warning.
• 52:01
  Doesn't this look odd? Does it happen?
• 52:03
  You an NBA? But no one said anything.
• 52:06
  Nothing happened. My point is, some behavior and
• 52:09
  some things beg a question. They put it right out there in
• 52:12
  front of you. But that type of thing happens
• 52:14
  all the time. Yeah, it's, it's, it's the
• 52:18
  ability to really, you know, we and we talk about, we, we talk
• 52:23
  about pay attention to your surroundings.
• 52:24
  Like I, I tell my daughters, always pay attention to your
• 52:28
  surroundings, like look and see what looks out of place, what
• 52:31
  doesn't fit the environment, you know?
• 52:33
  And so we, we say that. But then again, like you said
• 52:37
  it, it has to be some like some level of skill set to that.
• 52:43
  We have to be able to introduce, you know, scenarios or whatever
• 52:49
  that is. Like, hey, look, you got to be
• 52:51
  able to pay attention. You got to have the confidence.
• 52:53
  Yeah, it's, it's not that you're snitching or you're telling on
• 52:55
  somebody, but it's, it's, it's a level of safety, right?
• 53:00
  You know, it's a level of safety.
• 53:02
  I was, I was traveling one time and I had my golf bag and it's
• 53:05
  kind of a kind of hard plastic container, you know, so it's a
• 53:09
  golf. So it's, you know, it's, it's
• 53:10
  pretty round and tall, right? And I get into a Uber, you know,
• 53:14
  Uber driver says, is that a gun case?
• 53:18
  Like, OK, we obviously never seen a golf bag.
• 53:21
  But again, I appreciated him asking because it begged a
• 53:25
  question. OK, I'm a driver.
• 53:27
  I need to know if there's guns going going to be in my car,
• 53:29
  even though this thing going in the trunk.
• 53:30
  But it begged a question. Wow.
• 53:34
  Yeah, I can tell them all that I applaud as it's a golf bag or
• 53:37
  whatever. I didn't I didn't even applaud
• 53:38
  them for looking at this and and you know, saying a whole begging
• 53:42
  question thing. But my point is, he was
• 53:44
  situationally aware enough to know that.
• 53:48
  What is that? Yeah, having seen.
• 53:51
  I don't want to get it. Yeah.
• 53:54
  So if you got to get guns in there, you might have small
• 53:56
  guns, too. You weren't driving?
• 53:58
  Yes, Nobody. You got a gun in that backpack?
• 54:00
  Right, right. I ain't.
• 54:02
  Trying to get that. My point is, you know, he saw
• 54:05
  something and asked something. Yeah, let me take this
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  Wow. Again, I hope you had an
• 57:19
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• 57:21
  because it is very important for us to, we say, pay attention, we
• 57:26
  say these things, but do we really implement these right?
• 57:31
  And, and, and, you know, for me to, to be able to relate to
• 57:34
  this, maybe not maybe because I was a, a soldier myself 24 years
• 57:39
  and I still have some of that listening ability.
• 57:43
  But then how do we teach this? Like, how do we help other
• 57:46
  people not just talk about it, but talk from it and pay
• 57:51
  attention. I think that is very important
• 57:53
  for people to pay attention. Let me bring in Big Drake.
• 57:56
  Big Drake, man. What's happening, man?
• 57:57
  Hey, you know man, once again, salute man, salute man.
• 58:04
  I was sitting back watching, meditating, thinking about what
• 58:08
  Mr. Womack was saying and he kept in that background 31 years
• 58:13
  security expert. So I know running for City
• 58:16
  Council and that's one of my main measurements is to get
• 58:20
  these incentives in the schools about that assessment of
• 58:24
  schools. And I called the shadow master,
• 58:25
  what I called it, what he was saying when the kids come and
• 58:28
  wearing, you know, all black clothes in school and asking
• 58:30
  that simple question. How I would look at it is pay
• 58:33
  more attention to your surroundings as a student
• 58:35
  individual. Like he was saying, I always say
• 58:38
  a little Bobby in the corner and you got people bullying him.
• 58:41
  You know what he's going through.
• 58:43
  And you know, all of a sudden the parents start changing every
• 58:44
  day. Every day now.
• 58:45
  I love Bobby, got black hair and nails.
• 58:47
  And. Right.
• 58:49
  And he used to be a, he used to be blind.
• 58:51
  And I. Didn't he looked?
• 58:52
  Before in the class and what is Bobby He absent?
• 58:54
  No Bobby sitting right next to you.
• 58:55
  He didn't change your parents. You don't pay attention.
• 58:57
  So then Bobby goes home and gets on on YouTube.
• 59:00
  Oh how do you how do you say more good.
• 59:03
  He told his father to go to the house now Bobby coming school.
• 59:05
  Most schools will stop going through the bags checking bags
• 59:08
  check most of them stop now and let their guard down Some of
• 59:11
  this America we we got it. You don't have it and then the
• 59:14
  kids decided I'm pissed off. I go at school that there has
• 59:17
  mass shooting, you know, so it's it's sad that we're not teaching
• 59:22
  that. So I taught that with my female
• 59:24
  bodyguards. Archangels taught them the best
• 59:27
  when Kevin trained them. Our serratic areas.
• 59:29
  My girls will tell you they are not.
• 59:30
  They don't go nowhere now without that.
• 59:32
  They don't park next to vans and none of that stuff.
• 59:35
  They park the lidded area. So you used well, Mr. Woolman
• 59:38
  was talking. I have I have my body of shield
• 59:40
  armor going on. I'm like, man.
• 59:43
  Let me bring him to the stage. Let me bring him on.
• 59:46
  This. Is real man salute you Sir?
• 59:49
  All right, take the. Good service.
• 59:51
  Yeah. Well, expert, expert.
• 59:53
  I mean, I, I'm an expert in it. My uncle was a CIA Army Ranger.
• 59:58
  He he was, and he came from experience of training with,
• 1:00:02
  with him. I used to go in the and mom
• 1:00:03
  bought it and he had a cabinet trained up in the snow with him
• 1:00:06
  to shoot snipers, shoot with him, all that stuff.
• 1:00:08
  We, we learn hand to hand, you know, the survival stuff.
• 1:00:12
  And I came back, started teaching it.
• 1:00:13
  And I ended up putting A-Team together and we had a team for
• 1:00:16
  all these years. And I got in the game for 31
• 1:00:18
  years. I worked with the biggest names
• 1:00:20
  in the industry. I work with royalty from
• 1:00:22
  Princess Diana to James Brown. I've assisted a lot of people in
• 1:00:26
  different accolades. Then it comes to schools.
• 1:00:29
  The school shootings. I had a measurement.
• 1:00:31
  I went to the the schools to try to put the measurement in the
• 1:00:33
  school. They laughed at me.
• 1:00:35
  They said, oh, yeah, we, we don't need that.
• 1:00:36
  No schools. Oh, you need it in the schools
• 1:00:38
  because that's what the kids are.
• 1:00:39
  Are are are mainly white people dealing with Bulldadism in
• 1:00:43
  schools. You need it there.
• 1:00:44
  And for some reason, Mr. Alberto, I call them big nose,
• 1:00:48
  what I call them because big nose don't don't he don't he
• 1:00:51
  don't put that big nose in no business and make make these
• 1:00:53
  schools a better place in LA. They, they, they give them kids
• 1:00:57
  that are burning these people's their hair out.
• 1:00:59
  The LA students pushing kids on the 2nd floor, burning kids with
• 1:01:03
  with with fire things. That's a threat.
• 1:01:05
  That's consider a actual assessment.
• 1:01:08
  And that's what I did. No one listen, I don't know how
• 1:01:11
  we're going to change that. I mean you got any solutions how
• 1:01:13
  you would change that? Yeah, I, I think they need to
• 1:01:17
  hear that the approach is proactive and, and, and not
• 1:01:21
  reactive. And I was going to say this
• 1:01:24
  earlier that, you know, as parents, really, there's this
• 1:01:30
  thing called a proximity illusion.
• 1:01:32
  And the closer you are to it, the more you believe it ain't
• 1:01:36
  going to happen. It ain't going to be our
• 1:01:37
  children until it's our children.
• 1:01:40
  I feel sorry for parents all the time, except for the ones who
• 1:01:43
  are buying their their kid a gun.
• 1:01:45
  I don't feel sorry for them because I don't know what the
• 1:01:47
  hell you expected, but but for the ones who you know and they
• 1:01:52
  don't see the signs, they don't listen, they don't observe.
• 1:01:57
  They just it's just their kid doing what their kid does.
• 1:02:00
  So even the thing like like you said earlier, it's telling you
• 1:02:04
  that, but do you say that? Well, parents, the closer you
• 1:02:09
  are to it, you don't hear it in the same way.
• 1:02:12
  So you think they care to Florida State, you telling me
• 1:02:16
  that you you have that level of extremism?
• 1:02:20
  I'm not saying it was taught in the home, but you trying to tell
• 1:02:22
  me one that ever came up in that house right now?
• 1:02:26
  It came up. He might not have, he might not
• 1:02:28
  have took the conversation to the extreme, but it definitely
• 1:02:31
  it wasn't a situation where it wasn't mentioned at all at all.
• 1:02:35
  Yeah, at all. Right.
• 1:02:37
  But it's those things, that proximity illusion, the closer
• 1:02:39
  you are to it, the more you believe in it going to happen.
• 1:02:41
  And that's what's happening in the schools.
• 1:02:42
  They think, well, you know, we had nothing like we had some
• 1:02:44
  fights and stuff like that and this stuff doing some stuff, but
• 1:02:48
  it ain't going to be like that. And so they, they try to wish it
• 1:02:51
  away. There was a school shoot in,
• 1:02:56
  they were Santa Fe, TX in 20/18/19.
• 1:02:59
  And I'll tell you about the attacker in a minute.
• 1:03:02
  But I went to hug this little girl because she said this.
• 1:03:07
  I always knew it was going to happen here.
• 1:03:10
  Now where did she get that from? Like.
• 1:03:14
  Our. Standpoint.
• 1:03:16
  But. Say that.
• 1:03:17
  But guess who was saying it? The administration, the
• 1:03:20
  administrators wasn't saying it. Bingo.
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  But the students are saying it. So they're like begging for for
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  something, you know, so the dollars has to be put into to
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  the training, you know, so when I go speak, I mean, it didn't
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  cost that much to bring me in and, and facilitate a class to
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  do a training and, you know, all that stuff and whatever to save
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  lives versus some other stuff that they're spending money on,
• 1:03:46
  you know, so it, it, it does, it does cost you some money.
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  But you know, I get AI get a college and I say, what do you
• 1:03:53
  charge? I say, what's the, what's the
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  student's life worth? OK.
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  What's your life worth? Obviously, silence happens,
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  right? Budget, let's negotiate.
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  But you know. How Bentley you're driving as a
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  principal? Yeah, yeah.
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  One student's life. I know that my talks are going
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  to say what? We'll save all of this in the
• 1:04:14
  audience, but how much? One student might work.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  But then you you can afford me if you care about that.
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  So, I mean, I understand your job as administrator, but you
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  have students. You have nothing, you know, so
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  but that's high school when you're talking about the kid
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  changing their nails and all that.
• 1:04:30
  He he wore the school he had wore it at a time a certain he
• 1:04:35
  said born to kill. I mean, you know what I mean
• 1:04:41
  something right. And then he frequently wore.
• 1:04:45
  In Santa Fe, TX, he frequently wore, like almost daily, a
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  trench coat. Yep, when it's 8595°.
• 1:04:54
  Darn straight. Yeah, most of the time, right.
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  And and now now 85, nine degrees like OK, it rained full time
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  during school year. Maybe 5, maybe 5.
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  Yeah. Wow.
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  I'm content for the host. Yeah.
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  Wearing it on days, those 10 days plus those other days.
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  It begged a question. I want to hear what would come
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  up, what would have come out of his mouth to me.
• 1:05:20
  If I see that and it's 85°, whether it ain't raining or
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  whatever. And I said two days in a row.
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  I mean, as an administrator, and I don't care how old they are,
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  they need to know some history. What?
• 1:05:32
  But what does that mean, Miss Adams?
• 1:05:34
  You I mean with the church coating school just.
• 1:05:36
  About well well, see what what? Does.
• 1:05:39
  It mean what what what associated to me is that your
• 1:05:42
  whole mindset and your whole body mean that you're shameful.
• 1:05:45
  You're shame of something happened to you.
• 1:05:47
  When you cover the body up when it when it's when I'm learning
• 1:05:49
  martial arts, when you cover it, it shows that your abundantly of
• 1:05:53
  your your your confidence is not good.
• 1:05:55
  When you cross your hands mean you don't really care.
• 1:05:58
  When I teach people, when I was learning my Tai chi back in the
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  in the keto, my sensei had always tell me when you do this
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  right here and you greet your your, your, your opponent, you
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  never take your eyes to your opponent.
• 1:06:08
  They always bow More people come down and do this right here and
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  you so you bow. It's like a deer.
• 1:06:15
  People say, why did the horses have this right here?
• 1:06:17
  They have to concentrate and they're running so they can't
• 1:06:19
  see what's next to them. It's about the horses.
• 1:06:22
  So when you put them triscoat on, you're you're blinding
• 1:06:24
  everybody to the point that I'm selfish.
• 1:06:27
  I'm tired of it. I'm a cover up and no one can
• 1:06:29
  see me. It's in their mindset that no
• 1:06:31
  one's going to see me pull this 12 gauge shotgun out.
• 1:06:35
  And the kids are coming to school doing it.
• 1:06:36
  The Columbine prime example, Those doors just walked around
• 1:06:39
  for weeks. That's how I want it.
• 1:06:41
  That's that's what I saw because I think this is a copycat world.
• 1:06:45
  People are seeing it and they are doing it.
• 1:06:46
  How can I pull it off? Even even attack that embedded
• 1:06:49
  aim attack that that I survived, you know, six years later, a
• 1:06:53
  major in the Army did it at Fort Hood, TX.
• 1:06:55
  Yeah, I mean with. That then some years after that
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  a kid in 2021, this kid joined the military to.
• 1:07:02
  Learn to just learn to trade. He was.
• 1:07:03
  He was. Working with ISIS and giving
• 1:07:08
  them military plans to attack our troops when they were
• 1:07:12
  deployed, giving our fighting taxes to do that.
• 1:07:15
  And he wanted to deploy so he could help them kill fellow
• 1:07:19
  soldiers. It it is a copycat world.
• 1:07:21
  So they saw this guy do it in 2003 and like, well, I can do it
• 1:07:25
  too because they didn't change. But when I was writing the book,
• 1:07:28
  I said if they don't change nothing, keep doing what you're
• 1:07:31
  doing. Keep doing.
• 1:07:32
  What I want to try as well for the City Council, I want to make
• 1:07:35
  it put a city manager in LA and let the voters know you can vote
• 1:07:40
  on it or get some private funds to teach the school that the
• 1:07:43
  principal teaches teachers proper way of training, certain
• 1:07:46
  drills. We you can vote, the voters can
• 1:07:49
  vote that measurement to put money inside.
• 1:07:51
  If it's if it's a dollar inside gasoline tax for school safety
• 1:07:54
  that we need to do the next election and stop playing games.
• 1:07:57
  You want to put another another $0.25 on gas tax?
• 1:08:00
  How about 2510 on some security tax, you know, for secure our
• 1:08:04
  schools. So that's why I look at it.
• 1:08:05
  That's why I want to. I'm going to put managements I
• 1:08:07
  want to have. I start running the City Council
• 1:08:09
  that's meant for my main job is to secure.
• 1:08:14
  We'll call you * Major. It's Mr. Womack that the, the,
• 1:08:19
  the conversation we're having is like you said, that this like
• 1:08:22
  the end result. It's like the after the fact,
• 1:08:24
  right? And you want to implement these
• 1:08:25
  conversation beforehand. And again, as, as I open up the
• 1:08:30
  conversation, the, the heart of people, the heart of the man,
• 1:08:37
  the identity crisis, like we just why, why do parents not
• 1:08:42
  think that children don't deal with these identity crisis?
• 1:08:47
  I mean, to me, that's what I'm looking at.
• 1:08:49
  At this end of the day, human beings, we want to belong.
• 1:08:53
  And if we don't have some type of identity, even if it's sports
• 1:08:56
  or whatever, I'm susceptible to political parties to find that
• 1:09:02
  connectedness. And especially if I don't feel
• 1:09:04
  like I'm connected to my family. Like there's a lot of stuff that
• 1:09:07
  leads up to even this part of the conversation that to me,
• 1:09:12
  it's just still missed. It's still not there.
• 1:09:15
  Yeah, I mean, you know, parenting is, is a tough job.
• 1:09:17
  You know, it's more than just having the kids.
• 1:09:19
  It's especially, I mean, the parents have to keep up to date
• 1:09:22
  with what's happening in society, what could be happening
• 1:09:25
  at school. I mean, watching the news and
• 1:09:26
  see what's happening. Something that's happened in
• 1:09:28
  Iowa can happen in in California, you know, just just
• 1:09:32
  a matter of time. And, and, and with this thing
• 1:09:34
  right here, your 13 year old student is finding out about it
• 1:09:37
  for you to come home from work because they're already seeing
• 1:09:39
  the thing to happen in Iowa And they, they decide whether
• 1:09:42
  they're going to follow it, take toward it, share with somebody
• 1:09:46
  else. You can see that.
• 1:09:47
  And they, they are much smarter now and where they can outsmart
• 1:09:50
  the parent and parent and parents don't have their
• 1:09:53
  household in in some form of order.
• 1:09:59
  And that, that's what makes it hard.
• 1:10:00
  In addition to, like I said, that whole proximity illusion
• 1:10:03
  that the closer you are to it, the more you don't think it is
• 1:10:05
  going to happen just right there in front of you.
• 1:10:07
  But I mean, I couldn't fathom that you hear that too.
• 1:10:11
  The the the parent who thought they knew in the end, once
• 1:10:14
  they're interviewed, I never would have thought that's the
• 1:10:18
  proximity. Of moving well I'm in the
• 1:10:21
  process now with my team developing the Actors Student
• 1:10:25
  school app that's going to be implemented when when we a kids
• 1:10:29
  alert can see some of the people who can see that going to happen
• 1:10:32
  can alert there's a possible school threat in the school
• 1:10:36
  alert not the kids be just pulling just be pushing it.
• 1:10:39
  You'll go straight to operators and look we have a possible kid
• 1:10:43
  is pretty hostile. We walk around there acting kind
• 1:10:45
  of weird and you and you alert the the the principal's office.
• 1:10:48
  They let the whole world go on, school go on, panic reach the
• 1:10:50
  school or no, because school police are just a waste of time.
• 1:10:54
  Why, they even got uniforms on. I see them at a donut shop
• 1:10:57
  during the school hours. Don't you put me on the school
• 1:11:00
  property the whole time while school's in.
• 1:11:01
  I've been seeing them everywhere in LA, boy, don't you?
• 1:11:04
  And then that LAP took over them, so they had to be on
• 1:11:06
  campus now, and they put them in plain clothes now.
• 1:11:09
  Now put them. You need to put them in plain
• 1:11:11
  clothes and you need to be like janitors.
• 1:11:12
  Well, you should be doing them every day.
• 1:11:14
  Remember, we had proctors in high school.
• 1:11:16
  That's where they should be at in plain clothes Proctors when
• 1:11:19
  they should be. They blend in.
• 1:11:21
  You'll never know. When I'm talking to schools, you
• 1:11:24
  know, because sometimes it may, they want to try to protect the
• 1:11:27
  students. The students shouldn't hear
• 1:11:28
  this. I think the students should hear
• 1:11:30
  at every level because there's nothing I'm talking about that
• 1:11:34
  they don't know. And I'm providing proactive
• 1:11:37
  strategies to mitigate it. And those aren't scary.
• 1:11:40
  It's just situation awareness that they don't know anything
• 1:11:42
  about, you know, but they think that they're protecting the
• 1:11:45
  student from OK, well, let's talk to this, the, the faculty
• 1:11:47
  and staff there because you don't know either.
• 1:11:50
  You're not, you're not doing it either.
• 1:11:51
  So let's talk to you. And then you, you'll filter it
• 1:11:54
  down. But they, they don't, they, they
• 1:11:57
  don't get it as well. But I think for a school who the
• 1:12:02
  the start again, the better you, the more you know your student,
• 1:12:07
  which is the know your neighbor part, the more you're going to,
• 1:12:11
  the more you're going to find out.
• 1:12:12
  So if I'm a principal, I'm trying to get the best
• 1:12:17
  communicators of my faculty and staff.
• 1:12:20
  You know, like you went to school when you went when we
• 1:12:22
  went to school, Mr. so and so, Miss so and so now I can go tell
• 1:12:26
  her anything, man. We was cool.
• 1:12:28
  And they were the football culture, whatever they were.
• 1:12:30
  There was always 1 teacher, if not a few that you can just go
• 1:12:34
  talk to, right? That's who they need to use.
• 1:12:38
  Let Mr. or Mr. so and so befriend as many students as
• 1:12:41
  possible, because when this thing is going to go down over
• 1:12:44
  here, like like you talked about Mr. Evans and some that that
• 1:12:47
  happened in some of the schools or whatever, the people won't
• 1:12:50
  care. But something happened.
• 1:12:51
  Well, that's already planned. It's not, it's not, it's not a
• 1:12:56
  hasty thing that happened. It's already planned and
• 1:12:59
  students know some of them just want to be onlookers.
• 1:13:02
  They want to film it or whatever the case may be.
• 1:13:04
  So they know one of them can go tell Mister so and so who
• 1:13:08
  befriends all the students. Hey, this is going down.
• 1:13:10
  But I just want you to know about you.
• 1:13:12
  Don't tell anybody I told you you.
• 1:13:14
  They have to have that person that that's a start on the
• 1:13:17
  inside right there because they can make it.
• 1:13:19
  They're not going to the resource officer.
• 1:13:21
  They ain't going there in. In fact, when the shooting is
• 1:13:25
  going down, these kids, the 14151617 year olds, they're so
• 1:13:29
  smart and they're attacked. They're taking out the resource
• 1:13:32
  officer first. That's the only threat.
• 1:13:33
  Let's get that one first. Now I'm going to do whatever I
• 1:13:36
  want to that's happening. But I I would love to let go you
• 1:13:40
  off the air and put something together.
• 1:13:43
  The workplace and school. I have a lot of connections,
• 1:13:45
  principals and stuff. I would love to do that with
• 1:13:47
  you. I can get us in the schools.
• 1:13:50
  OK. Let me, let me bring to the
• 1:13:53
  deck. Oh, oh, oh, the legend.
• 1:13:59
  The one the only the legend. Frozen.
• 1:14:02
  Yeah. Ronnie, you got a good signal
• 1:14:04
  over there. Man, Riley, he got, he got the.
• 1:14:06
  Name. Hey, I should I?
• 1:14:07
  Should I had a signal? Wait a minute.
• 1:14:09
  What in the world? Let me see.
• 1:14:10
  Give me double. Jacks give me double Jack.
• 1:14:15
  I was wondering why that that image looked the same.
• 1:14:17
  It didn't. I'm like is he looking in the
• 1:14:18
  screen down there? He froze down there.
• 1:14:20
  That's why he. Looked, you know, the movie
• 1:14:22
  froze. He froze it froze it.
• 1:14:24
  But a jumper jacket is hand. Come on.
• 1:14:26
  That yeah, legendary, you know what I mean?
• 1:14:28
  But yeah, we, we, I would love to do that, man.
• 1:14:30
  Definitely. We have an icon legend man over
• 1:14:33
  the couple of ladies and gentlemen, a legend we got.
• 1:14:35
  We got Mr. Mr. Bill Montgomery over here in the What's
• 1:14:39
  happening? Bill.
• 1:14:40
  Bill. Hey, man, I'm just, I'm just
• 1:14:43
  happy to be on with you, with you brothers, man.
• 1:14:45
  I'm going to listen in. Salute you, Mr. Hidden Figures.
• 1:14:48
  Powerful man. Lord on.
• 1:14:50
  Yeah, man. I mean, I hear you guys talking
• 1:14:52
  about some schools, man, you know that?
• 1:14:54
  That's my sweet spot. Yeah.
• 1:14:57
  Sweet spot, sweet spot. Sweet spot.
• 1:15:01
  The sweet spot is not that sweet.
• 1:15:03
  It's it's an after the fact discussion.
• 1:15:05
  Man, we're trying to keep people safe.
• 1:15:11
  Sometimes it works right, but everybody has to be involved.
• 1:15:16
  So the year 2018, a 14 year old student had posted on Julian
• 1:15:23
  Edelman's account his his Instagram account, right?
• 1:15:26
  You know who Julian elements also on this account that he was
• 1:15:30
  going to shoot up? He said watch the news because
• 1:15:34
  I'm going to shoot up the school.
• 1:15:36
  Oh wow, I remember that, I remember that.
• 1:15:38
  Didn't see it, but someone saw it and it told him.
• 1:15:44
  Then he told his assistant he went in Boston at times.
• 1:15:47
  Told his assistant who was in Boston.
• 1:15:49
  She told the Boston police who contacted the Ford Huron police
• 1:15:53
  in Michigan and they were able to foil the attack.
• 1:15:57
  You know, so, so it works. But when it started with someone
• 1:16:00
  being situation aware to see where this kid had posted that
• 1:16:02
  thing, said he's going to do that, right?
• 1:16:05
  And then there's another one. There's an exchange student.
• 1:16:09
  He told his friend that, hey, don't come to school on, you
• 1:16:12
  know, a certain date because I'm going to shoot up the school and
• 1:16:18
  had the courage to be a hero and go report it.
• 1:16:22
  So that attack was foiled. So you think about this, the
• 1:16:24
  exchange student, so you had to come over here for some place
• 1:16:26
  else has a guard close to it. You get the what if you get
• 1:16:31
  that, that proximity illusion where they don't know what's
• 1:16:33
  going on. This kid had bought various
• 1:16:36
  parts online to put a gun together.
• 1:16:40
  See that don't happen in Los Angeles.
• 1:16:42
  That's a beat down LA. You tell your your fellow friend
• 1:16:46
  man, I'm going to shoot up lock high school on modern day or
• 1:16:50
  Dorsey, you get this Damn man, I love you brother.
• 1:16:56
  I put you behind what happened to do so?
• 1:16:57
  I know what happened LA at all. You know what happened?
• 1:17:00
  No, we don't pay that up here. It's a whole new ball game.
• 1:17:03
  So yeah, all the other places, man, I exchange ass with
• 1:17:08
  exchange students. Exchange yourself back to your
• 1:17:10
  country, exchange your hands. What you want to do.
• 1:17:16
  It's crazy, man. The world, it's the parents.
• 1:17:19
  The parents ain't paying attention to their kids.
• 1:17:21
  Yeah, man, that's, that's, that's that's why, you know,
• 1:17:24
  that's why at least the ability to go into these, you know,
• 1:17:27
  elementary and middle schools at at that level.
• 1:17:31
  Bill has the power to do that. I do have the power to do that
• 1:17:34
  because people listen to people who have, who have initiatives
• 1:17:37
  go in and tell these kids, hey, have a National Safety Day.
• 1:17:40
  We'll never have it for school. We have this.
• 1:17:42
  We have a pie day and a famous hot dog.
• 1:17:45
  Ease burger days and French fry day and.
• 1:17:48
  It's crazy the national hot dog day, really the head with your
• 1:17:53
  kid getting shot at school on Thursday.
• 1:17:55
  Eat that hot dog, but you have national hot dog day.
• 1:17:57
  It's, I mean we, we, we pick our.
• 1:17:59
  Like you say, like you say, we don't.
• 1:18:01
  We don't pay attention until it's at your front door and
• 1:18:04
  then. Now it's going to happen.
• 1:18:06
  They're going to start talking about like what we should have
• 1:18:08
  done right? How do we miss the signs and but
• 1:18:12
  we never pay attention alone. That's how Yeah, so far removed
• 1:18:15
  from it. You ain't never going to go
• 1:18:17
  going to solve it, man. They didn't do anything.
• 1:18:20
  So but I'd love to Mr. Mr. Woman, get with you and put some
• 1:18:24
  big thing together. I have a couple connects to the
• 1:18:26
  mayor's office. So we send the council people I
• 1:18:28
  could talk to the Holly Mitchells and about in different
• 1:18:31
  districts. Yes, Hey, we do a safety day for
• 1:18:33
  women, for kids, teaching kids how to defend themselves when it
• 1:18:38
  comes back to attackers. So yeah, I love to do that and.
• 1:18:40
  And and and that and that and that listening skill.
• 1:18:42
  We, like I said, we say we listen, we say we pay attention,
• 1:18:45
  but a lot of it is reactive. A lot of it is is not.
• 1:18:48
  We don't. I don't pertain to me, so I'm
• 1:18:50
  not paying attention. I don't care about all this.
• 1:18:54
  It does. You do though.
• 1:18:55
  It does. So you got to pay attention, you
• 1:19:00
  got to get off this thing for for a minute and.
• 1:19:07
  Your attention, that's that's that's a huge distraction.
• 1:19:08
  I call the future. I call the future ex-wife.
• 1:19:22
  What's going on? What's up, man?
• 1:19:23
  I've been telling you about the last few days.
• 1:19:26
  I said Roddy, go be on. The hey, I'm glad.
• 1:19:27
  Oh my. God.
• 1:19:30
  We had a little technical difficulties there, logging in,
• 1:19:33
  so many people crashes. He's crashing the Internet for
• 1:19:36
  Ron and it's all y'all fault. My bad man, my bad man, my bad.
• 1:19:44
  There we go, man, ladies and. Gentlemen, it's all good.
• 1:19:46
  The. Man the man 1970s if y'all was
• 1:19:48
  around in the 70s and didn't know what a burger was, I was.
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  Dripping. Until Rodney came along and said
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  it's too big my mouth. Everybody, Black said We going
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  to try it anyway. My mother bought like 15.
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  Tumblr neck. That's right.
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  She came home and said that's. Right.
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  Commercial Last night when y'all were in the bed I told that we
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  were we going to eat. He said where he was
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  jack-in-the-box he was going to tell you he had two team jump
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  jacks bro. After that day, it was hooked on
• 1:20:17
  every Friday with Jumber Jack night.
• 1:20:19
  Every Friday I. Found a house for over 10 years
• 1:20:21
  man. I saw it and before his picture.
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  Now I'm thinking. That's what I wanted right
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  there. That's what we.
• 1:20:54
  Brother, listen, I've been knowing I've been knowing for
• 1:20:56
  Ron for a while, been knowing Dre for a while.
• 1:20:59
  Bill, man, these are these are class act people because they
• 1:21:03
  care about the community. They care about a positive
• 1:21:07
  message. They care about helping the
• 1:21:08
  youth. I like being around good people
• 1:21:11
  and like you, brother. It's a pleasure meeting you too,
• 1:21:14
  man, because we we're very this time that we're in more than
• 1:21:19
  ever, we need to keep the youth motivated.
• 1:21:22
  We need to show them opportunities.
• 1:21:25
  That's why, you know, Trey's doing what he's doing, Mr. Adams
• 1:21:28
  and and going to be making his mark in local politics and doing
• 1:21:32
  his thing for Ron. He's been doing such great
• 1:21:35
  things, you know, telling his story and and being able to
• 1:21:39
  really help shine a light on sickle cell and so many
• 1:21:42
  different other things. And I, I'm just fortunate enough
• 1:21:46
  to be able to be in the collection of good people.
• 1:21:50
  And my career, yes, I started out 1972 and worked with all the
• 1:21:57
  greats from Sammy Davis junior to George Burns to Mel Brooks to
• 1:22:02
  I can go on and on and on. And but now is the time that
• 1:22:06
  we're building. And so, you know, between being
• 1:22:10
  with Bill and the hidden pioneers and work with Bill and
• 1:22:13
  you know, Bill's, you know, Bill and I are developing ATV show
• 1:22:18
  called Hidden Garages with young people.
• 1:22:20
  And, you know, it's just a, a real cool time for us to be all
• 1:22:25
  working together and making our mark in broadcast, in business
• 1:22:31
  and politics and, and, and definitely through education.
• 1:22:36
  Yes, yes. Now one thing I want to say, I'm
• 1:22:41
  sure everybody feel the same way after people that are listening
• 1:22:43
  right now. Rodney is inspiration for us
• 1:22:46
  black Americans because for a brother like him for like him
• 1:22:51
  being in seven and all these years of Hollywood, never heard
• 1:22:54
  of Rodney going to jail. Never see no mug shots.
• 1:22:57
  And that's a that's a that's man.
• 1:22:59
  How many you people you know in the industry right now and and
• 1:23:02
  get a mug shot in Hollywood almost every other day.
• 1:23:05
  Robert Downey Junior, he broke the record and he was he was
• 1:23:09
  they would let him. They would let him out of jail
• 1:23:10
  to do movies and stuff they had never been done.
• 1:23:13
  Let a brother go to jail. He was you get no Vin rings but
• 1:23:15
  get out of jail. You do no no part in the movie.
• 1:23:17
  You. Going to stay, right?
• 1:23:19
  Right. But but, but hey.
• 1:23:20
  Yeah, well, see that's honestly I didn't want to Dre brother, I
• 1:23:27
  didn't want to test the system. I didn't want to.
• 1:23:30
  And so I had because it apparently for us it don't work
• 1:23:35
  the same. So I decided not to try that at
• 1:23:37
  all and. Exactly.
• 1:23:40
  Being and, and me, you know, growing up in Long Beach, I grew
• 1:23:44
  up with a family who, you know, I saw my dad, he was a hard
• 1:23:48
  working man. And my mom, she always took care
• 1:23:51
  of everything and just to be able to be a part of it.
• 1:23:54
  And once my career started, you know, my brother and sister, my
• 1:23:58
  sister Beverly Lee and my brother Kenneth Wayne, we all
• 1:24:02
  were signed up. It wasn't like I was some golden
• 1:24:04
  child. My, my sister actually was the
• 1:24:06
  first one in our family to land a commercial and she landed a
• 1:24:11
  commercial and then my brother, he went out for the audition for
• 1:24:16
  the famous Coca-Cola commercial. Remember, I like to teach the
• 1:24:20
  world to sing in perfect Harmon. So my brother, he auditioned and
• 1:24:24
  went out and was a part of that. And then I was the baby of the
• 1:24:28
  family. I got the call for
• 1:24:29
  Jack-in-the-box and was just blessed and fortunate to land a
• 1:24:34
  career or or an actually an, an audition with jack-in-the-box.
• 1:24:39
  And at the time, what a lot of people didn't know back in 1972,
• 1:24:43
  jack-in-the-box was in foreclosure.
• 1:24:46
  They were all the way on the East Coast and they were losing
• 1:24:50
  the company and they got all the way to Texas.
• 1:24:53
  And that's when they made a corporate decision to say, if we
• 1:24:56
  let this go any further, we're losing this company.
• 1:25:00
  So when they were just a West Coast operation from Texas to
• 1:25:03
  California, that's when they decided to do this last ditch
• 1:25:09
  effort to have this campaign, this jack-in-the-box commercial.
• 1:25:12
  They just wanted a boy, a girl, white, black.
• 1:25:15
  They didn't care. They just called 100 kids in and
• 1:25:18
  they were hoping for the best. And I landed the commercial.
• 1:25:22
  And you? Got and so and that's what
• 1:25:25
  pulled them out of pull them out of bankruptcy.
• 1:25:28
  And so, you know, 50 years later, the company still in
• 1:25:33
  they, they've got a, they got a little bit of hiccup going right
• 1:25:36
  now, but you never know. That creates an opportunity for
• 1:25:39
  me to to re emerge again with them.
• 1:25:42
  And do some. Work.
• 1:25:45
  I. Would already ready to go.
• 1:25:54
  And Mr. Womack, you know I am you hate you know me I call
• 1:25:58
  about online on the air all the time.
• 1:25:59
  I'm going to call you out again All you corporates at
• 1:26:02
  jack-in-the-box. Y'all know for a fact the reason
• 1:26:05
  why people eating eating the jumbo Jack is cousin's brother
• 1:26:08
  over here to the. You think that hey, now in in
• 1:26:12
  the industry, it's like they they're taking a few chances on
• 1:26:17
  new things, but they're going back and doing sequel or prequel
• 1:26:21
  or recall. They they got so many cools
• 1:26:23
  going on. We don't know what they are
• 1:26:24
  exactly. Oh yeah, the audience, right.
• 1:26:28
  But I just think about that. You think about that Mister
• 1:26:30
  Ribby of of 72 and now a world was then they'll show that
• 1:26:35
  commercial then and then, oh man, that's.
• 1:26:37
  A That's a It's a classic beginning all over again all.
• 1:26:42
  Over again all. Over.
• 1:26:50
  Again, hey, you know what, it's a no brainer.
• 1:26:52
  It's a marketing no brainer because our generation now have
• 1:26:58
  kids and families and and if they say, you know, I remember
• 1:27:02
  back in the day when I was a young man and like you, Dre and
• 1:27:06
  and eating a jumbo jacket now shoot, you know, you, you still
• 1:27:10
  get to take a pit stop by and grab one and and you know,
• 1:27:14
  that's what it's all about. Yeah, What do you ever do?
• 1:27:16
  I'm going to feel myself. I'm going to go up and say, hey,
• 1:27:18
  it's two bits from my mom. How do you been telling me?
• 1:27:21
  Jumbo Jack. That's right.
• 1:27:38
  That's right. And that man should be ashamed
• 1:27:40
  to say a little box head man with the little jacket box of
• 1:27:42
  his head hide in his face. I'm afraid that he you get a
• 1:27:45
  check. That's what it is.
• 1:27:46
  But you put Snoop Dogg with a munchie meal and and you give
• 1:27:51
  Ice Cube his own and Ice Cube would say what?
• 1:27:53
  What did they say? Wait, what Snoop saw you?
• 1:27:56
  Tell me what Snoop told you when he saw you for the first time.
• 1:27:59
  I I actually, I bumped in the Snoop and I was at the the night
• 1:28:05
  that actually was really funny. My homeboy is flavored Flav from
• 1:28:07
  Public Enemy. And so that was the night that
• 1:28:10
  they roasted flavored Flav on MTV and, and what happened was
• 1:28:18
  Snoop was there as part of the people that was roasting Flav.
• 1:28:22
  And I'm tell they said some of the most horrendous stuff to
• 1:28:26
  Flav. I I just ran, I just, it was, it
• 1:28:28
  was so rough that it was funny and I was just like, Oh my God.
• 1:28:32
  But you have, you know, if you going to be roasted, you got you
• 1:28:35
  open yourself up for that. But we were all backstage.
• 1:28:38
  And so I saw Snoop. I never met him.
• 1:28:41
  You know, he's from Long Beach. I'm from Long Beach.
• 1:28:43
  He was on the east side. I was on the West side.
• 1:28:45
  And I said, man, I want to meet Snoop.
• 1:28:47
  So we're backstage and I just welcome to him.
• 1:28:49
  And I, I tapped him on the shoulder and he turned around.
• 1:28:52
  I said, hey, man. I said, I just want to say hello
• 1:28:54
  to you. And he's like, yeah, man.
• 1:28:56
  I said, hey, I'm Long Beach, man, Rodney Allen Rippy.
• 1:28:59
  And he said, what? Rodney Allen Rippy?
• 1:29:01
  And he freaked out. He was like, man.
• 1:29:04
  Hey everybody, is Rodney. Allen Rippy.
• 1:29:08
  And I was like, I was like, I couldn't believe he freaked out
• 1:29:10
  like. That I mean he really.
• 1:29:11
  Did I was like, and I was like, yeah, man, it, it was really
• 1:29:17
  cool. And I'm I'm happy to see him
• 1:29:19
  with all his success and all the things that he's done and the
• 1:29:22
  Olympics and so many other things.
• 1:29:24
  And it, it's just when you see that type of push and that type
• 1:29:31
  of reach within the masses, not just in California, globally,
• 1:29:37
  he's a he, he's an influencer. And so, you know, what do you
• 1:29:41
  expect? So that's how the big, the big
• 1:29:44
  offers come in. That's how a lot of stuff
• 1:29:46
  happening. So I'm looking at between
• 1:29:49
  working with Bill and for Ron and you, Dre and and Mr. Womack.
• 1:29:53
  I mean, I, I want to be able to use what I have as an act as a,
• 1:30:00
  you know, as an access to the city of Los Angeles, the
• 1:30:04
  education, the youth, not only just here, but across the
• 1:30:07
  country. And I mean, we've got everything
• 1:30:11
  from technology. I'm part of a group called
• 1:30:14
  Matrix Capital. And Matrix Capital is a great
• 1:30:18
  group of leaders. I mean, we've got generals that
• 1:30:22
  are part of Matrix Capital. We have the president of the
• 1:30:26
  West Point Society. I mean, we have so many
• 1:30:30
  different people who have built industries in communities.
• 1:30:35
  There are grant writers that are part of Matrix Capital who've
• 1:30:38
  closed $1,000,000 deals and they're doing, they're doing a
• 1:30:41
  big development in Las Vegas now they're down in North, you know,
• 1:30:46
  North Las Vegas like downtown and they're building a, a stem
• 1:30:51
  center down there. These are the type of things
• 1:30:53
  that our community need and should know about.
• 1:30:57
  And you know, I'm happy to just to be a part of good things in
• 1:31:02
  in the community. Yeah, I found about now I know
• 1:31:05
  for a fact you work for LA Vets. What?
• 1:31:07
  What are you doing with LA Vets for them?
• 1:31:08
  Then we talked a couple of times.
• 1:31:10
  Well, I'm, yeah, LA Vets, you know, they are.
• 1:31:14
  That's US Vets. US Vets, you know, that's a
• 1:31:17
  major, major veterans organization.
• 1:31:20
  They help veterans who have went through a tough transition.
• 1:31:24
  Some of them need a place. And US Vets is directly connect
• 1:31:28
  to the VA, so they make sure that they get housed housing and
• 1:31:33
  health and mental health services.
• 1:31:36
  And so that's what I'm wanting to do I'm, I'm in the process of
• 1:31:40
  starting the Rippy Foundation. I'm going to work with at risk
• 1:31:43
  youth, senior citizens and veterans.
• 1:31:45
  There shouldn't be one homeless veteran anywhere on any St. in
• 1:31:49
  America. Thank you.
• 1:31:51
  Let alone let alone Los Angeles. That's right.
• 1:31:56
  And they have given their all, believe it or not.
• 1:31:59
  I actually knew a veteran and it was sad because he was trying to
• 1:32:04
  get VA services and the line and the the medical care was kind of
• 1:32:09
  sketchy and he actually died waiting on services.
• 1:32:14
  And I'm hoping that, you know that these.
• 1:32:17
  Yeah. So you know, we.
• 1:32:20
  Right. And these are the type of things
• 1:32:22
  that should not happen. So hopefully you know, better
• 1:32:26
  times will come for our veterans and better opportunities,
• 1:32:30
  repurposing them, getting them trained, you know, and, and they
• 1:32:35
  should be the first in line for a home, you know, with all the
• 1:32:40
  available real estate. Our veterans should be better,
• 1:32:43
  you know, better taken care of, OK.
• 1:32:45
  I always say that the, in my experience, Steven, I didn't go
• 1:32:50
  to the VA until seven years after I got a military just just
• 1:32:54
  because of the myth. And then I finally said, I'm
• 1:32:56
  going to and I'm going to either confirm or deny the myth.
• 1:33:00
  And I confirm the myth. Like I made an appointment and I
• 1:33:06
  had to wait three months for it or four months.
• 1:33:08
  And then then they called and they canceled.
• 1:33:13
  I made another one and on the day of my appointment I'm
• 1:33:17
  driving and I'm like 5 minutes away.
• 1:33:18
  They called and said oh we have to cancel your appointment.
• 1:33:20
  No you're not I'm coming right now.
• 1:33:22
  I'll come here and talk to you then right?
• 1:33:26
  And they said well what happened?
• 1:33:28
  And they called a emergency meeting last night.
• 1:33:30
  But I said well you got my number why don't you call and
• 1:33:32
  tell me why? Why do you have to wait till
• 1:33:33
  10:30 in the morning as I'm driving here to do that right?
• 1:33:36
  The reason I got to be in the 1st place.
• 1:33:38
  Just confirm or did not admit and it's not a myth y'all got.
• 1:33:41
  I didn't use profane, I refrained.
• 1:33:44
  I didn't turn, sorry. I made it from I said this is
• 1:33:53
  about me in terms of my appointment.
• 1:33:55
  I said the way you guys treat people, it ain't it ain't going
• 1:34:00
  to affect me right now, but you know it's going to affect that
• 1:34:02
  person. That's 7075, whatever the age
• 1:34:05
  are, they don't have they don't have the vigor to put up with
• 1:34:10
  this to fight you. So they'll just going to go home
• 1:34:13
  and die? My uncle 74.
• 1:34:17
  And that's going to be on you, but you're not going to know
• 1:34:19
  because you, your appointment, they didn't even get here after
• 1:34:24
  that. They hurry up.
• 1:34:24
  You got me in. That was my first.
• 1:34:26
  That was my intake that just do the blood work and all.
• 1:34:28
  That's all it was because they say all the doctors are in the
• 1:34:34
  meeting upstairs would take me up there.
• 1:34:36
  This is a great time to tell them what the heck they doing.
• 1:34:39
  We're going to change the focus of the meeting.
• 1:34:41
  Right now we lost Bill. Bill, how to pick?
• 1:34:46
  Someone has to fight for him. You got someone has to fight for
• 1:34:51
  him. Yeah, that's right.
• 1:34:53
  I want to piggyback what Rodney was saying about your US Vance
• 1:34:56
  Bill. I know you and Rodney work
• 1:34:58
  simultaneously on a lot of things, so tell me about who you
• 1:35:01
  are, Mr. Bill. Yeah, so I'm CSI Bill stands for
• 1:35:04
  Common Sense Intelligence at the high school students gave me
• 1:35:08
  that nickname because I've come from military family.
• 1:35:12
  My dad was in Marines for 22 years and and he's always,
• 1:35:15
  besides spank that butt, he would say use your common sense,
• 1:35:17
  boy. So I grew up saying use your
• 1:35:21
  common sense, use your common sense.
• 1:35:23
  And I did. I started teaching in high
• 1:35:26
  schools and I said the same thing.
• 1:35:28
  And the kids got to get said Mr. Montgomery, you always tell my
• 1:35:30
  common sense. We're going to make a nickname
• 1:35:33
  CSI Bill. And I was like, OK, so I've been
• 1:35:36
  that since eight years ago. How'd you how'd you meet Rodney?
• 1:35:40
  Oh, man, I met, I met Ronnie. I meant what I mean, Rodney at
• 1:35:44
  man, it's been. Jack-in-the-box.
• 1:35:46
  Jack-in-the-box. Like all, like all of us.
• 1:35:49
  What you talking about? You going to go back to 1972?
• 1:35:54
  I was two years old. Yeah, there you go.
• 1:35:57
  From a guy named Al Ramirez, radio guy and he talked about
• 1:36:04
  Rodney's man. You got to, you know, you got to
• 1:36:06
  meet this guy and. And I met Rodney and ever since
• 1:36:10
  we connected up, we got some of the same views.
• 1:36:13
  And yeah, man, we, we, we started connecting up.
• 1:36:16
  And then I think for Ron came maybe a little bit later.
• 1:36:20
  Same thing, man. So I met for Ron, you know,
• 1:36:22
  quickly for Ron went to the schools, man and, and just
• 1:36:26
  dynamic man. So, you know, we're, we're on
• 1:36:28
  the same. Page of.
• 1:36:29
  Course, I was 18 years old, I was jumping on airplanes.
• 1:36:32
  So I went into the 82nd Airborne down in North Carolina, had a
• 1:36:37
  had a great time man and, and actually.
• 1:36:40
  I was going to do. I was going to do 20 years, but
• 1:36:44
  it, it, it started getting soft, you know, even back then.
• 1:36:47
  So I was like, man, I, they, they, I got to get out of here,
• 1:36:49
  man. Yeah, even back then.
• 1:36:50
  So now it's really, really soft. Oh my God they can't recruit.
• 1:36:54
  Their recruiting levels are the lowest ever.
• 1:36:56
  Bill, we can't see your face. Bill, we need to see your face.
• 1:36:58
  You see some sexy lips, man? What's your face there?
• 1:37:00
  You go? Yeah.
• 1:37:02
  Yeah, yeah, I got you. Lying one time Roku TV we on TV.
• 1:37:14
  That's right. And actually.
• 1:37:17
  We want to get. Kicked off the TV.
• 1:37:19
  Bro no, I'm glad you guys said it and obviously you can see the
• 1:37:23
  NASA shirt because. There you go.
• 1:37:26
  With with NASA and yeah, man, I'm just I'm happy to be able to
• 1:37:30
  give the information on this platform and thank you guys so
• 1:37:34
  much because media exposure. That's.
• 1:37:38
  Everything these days. So thank you guys for having me
• 1:37:41
  on and I'm just going to kick it back to you guys.
• 1:37:43
  I'm just happy to be here. I got.
• 1:37:45
  A question also, if you if you want to know, if you want to
• 1:37:49
  know more about Bill, just go to Hidden Pioneers dot com.
• 1:37:53
  That's hidden HIDDEN pioneers.com.
• 1:37:57
  We're really excited because Bill is connected to some great
• 1:38:00
  people. There's a lady named Emmeline
• 1:38:03
  King. Emmeline.
• 1:38:04
  She is the first African American female hired by the
• 1:38:08
  Ford Motor Company in the design division.
• 1:38:11
  So she was recently at a big event that we had out here.
• 1:38:15
  The lady plays a mean saxophone. She's an artist and she's got a
• 1:38:19
  big heart. She cares about the kids and
• 1:38:22
  Bill every what is it every Monday night Bill?
• 1:38:26
  Has a, a, a. Stream that he does and we go
• 1:38:30
  live and we just kind of work together with people who come in
• 1:38:34
  to talk about solutions. Not just talk, but we're looking
• 1:38:38
  for solutions for the community through STEM education and STEAM
• 1:38:44
  that science, technology, engineering, the arts and math.
• 1:38:47
  And Bill is kind of bringing back, you know, the shop classes
• 1:38:52
  and the lab classes for the young people.
• 1:38:54
  And that's what that's what the Hidden Pioneers is all about.
• 1:38:56
  And that's my measure, too. I'm running for city
• 1:38:58
  councillors. They bring it back, me and Riley
• 1:38:59
  talking about that. Karate's my campaign manager.
• 1:39:02
  And that's what's going to happen to the point that we know
• 1:39:05
  for a fact it's evolutionizing with these kids all to come to
• 1:39:09
  tech, everything we had all in high school when they took it
• 1:39:12
  all out and the Pledge of Allegiance, well, what happened
• 1:39:13
  to your school? They turned to prisons.
• 1:39:15
  Their minds have got slaves knocked out.
• 1:39:17
  In their minds, that's what the kids all messed up at.
• 1:39:20
  So NASA is like they well they're doing ads now they're
• 1:39:23
  doing the CIA doing ads. They ain't never did the CIA
• 1:39:26
  done never did we want you in the CIA.
• 1:39:27
  I'm like what? At midnight you get an ad for
• 1:39:30
  CIA to apply for a job that NASA too.
• 1:39:33
  Now the astronauts that was stuck in space for 11,000 years.
• 1:39:39
  When they came down they said they was paying them what, $5 a
• 1:39:43
  day? Did you see that?
• 1:39:45
  Is that true? They got they overtime they.
• 1:39:48
  Got a trillion dollars in space? That's a trillion dollars,
• 1:39:51
  though. OK, I got you.
• 1:39:52
  There you go. And, and President Trump said,
• 1:39:55
  well, I paid overtime. What is it?
• 1:39:56
  What? It's $14.53.
• 1:39:58
  So of course you're going to pay overtime at $14.00, but you stay
• 1:40:01
  in space nine months with your family, all you got is $11.00
• 1:40:05
  overtime. They didn't want to pay it
• 1:40:06
  nothing. That's crazy, man.
• 1:40:09
  So your bill not not. So is that how?
• 1:40:14
  How do they get paid? Probably astronaut to go up.
• 1:40:17
  Well, you know, it's almost like, like, like the military,
• 1:40:20
  you know, you're, you're on a contract and you, you know, you
• 1:40:22
  sign up and you know. $0.65 an hour man for 24 hours man.
• 1:40:26
  OK, there you go. That's good money man 65.
• 1:40:29
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:40:30
  So so. Yeah, back in them days, $0.65.
• 1:40:33
  Yeah, I got back in them days, Yeah.
• 1:40:37
  How do you pay and how do you go by the overtime?
• 1:40:39
  How do they come up with $11.53 overtime?
• 1:40:43
  Well, I don't know, man, whatever, whatever that, like I
• 1:40:46
  said, whatever the they're part of the military.
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  So whatever that track is, you know, you know, it's like
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  private, you know, first class, you know, and you get a little
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  bit more. Yeah, I think.
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  I think astronauts get a, you know, a little bit more because
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  of the hazard pay, but it's it's not.
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  You would think there'd be a lot, but Nope.
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  It's. I won't be fine with space no
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  time soon, but you try to think $3,000,000 to go up to the upper
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  part and then come back on. You try the $3,000,000 to go up
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  to the upper part of space to come back on.
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  That's crazy. Bill, how much was how much was
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  jump pay? Well, jump pay was was was $83 a
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  month when I was there. 80. 2 I don't know what it it might be
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  100. What year was that?
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  What year was that? This was a 888383 to 86.
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  Did they give you a tip if you turn your ankle it?
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  Was 55. Dollars, sorry sorry mentioned
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  that he was getting $55 back in in his days. 77 Who $50.
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  Hey I'm I'm trying I'm trying to get service connected now as we
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  speak. Oh my.
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  God, my my ankle. He.
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  Turned his ankle. I'm messing up, but I tell you.
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  But but yeah, there's there's so much information.
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  Offline, there you go. But it's an honor, man, to see,
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  you know, these these these gentlemen here today and people
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  understand behind all this experience and this knowledge
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  and this God-given talent. You know, it's here to help
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  society what society is all about.
• 1:42:23
  It's about our kids. And what are we going to do,
• 1:42:26
  gentlemen, about these kids generation?
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  Is it talking to the parents? Is it What do you think?
• 1:42:31
  Is it the parents talk first we to the.
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  Reconciliation. Malachi 4-5 and six, says that
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  we can return the hearts of our parents back to our children,
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  the hearts of our parents back to the children, back to their
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  parents. So yeah, it's the direction we
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  can get our children to, to, to, to develop and go home and share
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  what they learn from an emotional, from mental toughness
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  standpoint that parents going to come to the school.
• 1:42:55
  And be like, what are you? Teaching my child, because now
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  they're talking different. They ain't talking like they
• 1:42:59
  used to. Now we draw that right or we
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  have the parent come in and have a conversation one way or
• 1:43:04
  another. That's where it starts for me.
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  It starts at that family dynamic and that we can restore that
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  heart of that child back to that parent.
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  And I and I truly honor my father and mother.
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  I'm not going to want to hurt you.
• 1:43:18
  I'm not going to because my, I'm going to think about what my mom
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  and dad's going to say if I steal that candy.
• 1:43:24
  What if I steal that? What is my mom and dad going to
• 1:43:27
  say first? I'm not going to do that.
• 1:43:29
  But why do we have to wait till we get in jail or get in our 40s
• 1:43:33
  and 50s to discover that that's what life should have been
• 1:43:35
  about, you know, 40 years ago. We can make those collections
• 1:43:39
  today. Those that are willing,
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  everybody ain't willing to do that.
• 1:43:44
  Those that are. Willing to look at that.
• 1:43:45
  Conversation. That's right.
• 1:43:47
  Like a famous Eddie, the famous Eddie, Griffin said.
• 1:43:51
  We, my black folk were so fast. We had to.
• 1:43:53
  We had to beat that street light though.
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  Hey. Let me tell you, it's just.
• 1:44:00
  It's just passive being in the house and going in the.
• 1:44:03
  House yeah you go to the house so brother 193 so you know what
• 1:44:08
  if we like you know as. Soon as it blinked, it was a
• 1:44:12
  rap. Drop the bat, drop the football.
• 1:44:18
  Nowadays 11 years old, out there until 11:00 on school nights
• 1:44:23
  running around shooting the. Gun no man.
• 1:44:25
  I have, I have 1/5 grader when I was when I started last year and
• 1:44:31
  we were talking about what is it to be respectful of my, of my
• 1:44:34
  family. And he said, oh, I know my, my
• 1:44:39
  mom stutters when she's lying. And I'm like, what?
• 1:44:43
  Like he already got his mother figured out that when she
• 1:44:46
  stutters, she's lying. Now what happened?
• 1:44:50
  He caught what happened where he discovered that that stutter was
• 1:44:54
  connected to something she said that was not true.
• 1:44:58
  Now that's how he listened to his mother when she stutters,
• 1:45:01
  she's lying. And he's 50.
• 1:45:03
  He. Was a 50 year I'm going to tell
• 1:45:06
  you what I was brought up in a little bit of different way my
• 1:45:09
  Mama could tell me anything and I believed it I'm.
• 1:45:15
  Going to tell you. I had I had the type of parents
• 1:45:18
  that whatever mom or daddy said, I believe it.
• 1:45:21
  I and there was no questioning if that you couldn't ask why.
• 1:45:25
  I mean, because that that that would entail the Hickory stick
• 1:45:29
  that if you started asking why that would the Hickory stick
• 1:45:33
  would come out and I I didn't need the Hickory stick so well.
• 1:45:37
  Well, let me tell you guys something in, in high school, I,
• 1:45:40
  I've done the R&D, OK? The, the couple things they say,
• 1:45:42
  first of all, like you said, soon as you say something, why
• 1:45:45
  what? OK.
• 1:45:47
  And then they they say when they get in trouble.
• 1:45:50
  So they say nobody told me. Nobody told me.
• 1:45:53
  So those, those, those are the things that that the kids say.
• 1:45:56
  Now why what? And nobody told me.
• 1:45:59
  Yeah. Wow.
• 1:46:01
  And Bill, Bill also has a great thing and it's it's called the
• 1:46:06
  you're, you're the cell phone curriculum that Bill has.
• 1:46:09
  It's it's the pocket computer. And Bill is, you know, also has
• 1:46:13
  a curriculum that's teaching the young people how to, you know,
• 1:46:18
  confidently use a cell phone and not to abuse it and not to get
• 1:46:22
  addicted to it. Because so many kids, you know,
• 1:46:25
  parents say, hey, you know, you used to be able to put a kid on
• 1:46:28
  restriction. All you got to do is take the
• 1:46:30
  cell phone. They'll freak out.
• 1:46:31
  So, you know, the whole thing is.
• 1:46:34
  But now we know that there's a lot of very good uses of the
• 1:46:39
  cell phone and all of the access and, and everything.
• 1:46:43
  But there's a lot of, there's a lot of bad.
• 1:46:47
  Yeah, it's too much. It's overkill.
• 1:46:49
  And if your and if your child is not properly using the the phone
• 1:46:54
  and the tablet and the computer in a wise way, because they
• 1:46:57
  really can get into some deep, deep trouble.
• 1:47:01
  Rodney, you're a campaign manager for.
• 1:47:04
  So I want to make sure. We we, we get that in that
• 1:47:06
  pocket computer curriculum. I'll put it into.
• 1:47:10
  It's got to get into our schools.
• 1:47:11
  It's I, I man, I let me tell you what T they don't want none of
• 1:47:14
  me. You got 6 foot 4300 plus that's
• 1:47:17
  running the City Council. I, I I'm not running.
• 1:47:20
  So you can you can make a threat and daddy can make threats.
• 1:47:22
  I mean, I'm highly trained. So I would would approach my,
• 1:47:26
  my, my podium. Please approach it and say what
• 1:47:29
  you're going to say. I want people to know that it's
• 1:47:32
  your fault as a parent, your fellow as a parent, because by
• 1:47:34
  your kids out there at 17 St. doing drive by mini bikes up and
• 1:47:39
  down the street at night time go karts and and we allow the
• 1:47:42
  police allow them to drive around the streets like that.
• 1:47:44
  Now it's like. I got a question.
• 1:47:47
  I got a question because I I just happened to be in Hollywood
• 1:47:50
  the other night and and I was Mandy still came down the street
• 1:47:56
  stunting on dirt bikes. No, yeah.
• 1:47:58
  Lights. No.
• 1:47:59
  Hell yeah. And the police was on the other
• 1:48:02
  side of the street and I was like, I remember back in the
• 1:48:05
  day, if you had a mini bite, it was over.
• 1:48:08
  They confiscated. Your mini bite.
• 1:48:12
  Done. I mean no.
• 1:48:14
  If they stopped you, if they stopped you, your bike got
• 1:48:18
  confiscated. Your parents had to get
• 1:48:20
  involved. It was a ticket.
• 1:48:23
  And now, I mean the police were just sitting there on Sunset and
• 1:48:26
  these dudes came down, came down Hollywood Blvd. study and it had
• 1:48:31
  to be 30 of them. That was for Yeah on 3rd.
• 1:48:33
  That was for Instagram. That was for.
• 1:48:35
  Instagram, man, that's Instagram.
• 1:48:37
  Tick tock money, Tick tock money.
• 1:48:39
  Wow. I'm going to stop there with the
• 1:48:40
  street takeovers. That's my main, one of my
• 1:48:42
  initiatives. If your parents got a kid under
• 1:48:44
  18 driving that and tree takeovers we snatch in your car,
• 1:48:47
  we're going to dissemble it and the parents are going to pay to
• 1:48:49
  get it out. So you're going to get a piece
• 1:48:50
  of it out. You didn't get the whole car.
• 1:48:53
  You want the two. You want the you want the
• 1:48:54
  steering wheel, both tires. Here you go.
• 1:48:58
  All right, gentlemen, we got to get out of here.
• 1:49:02
  It's our major man. I I thank you for.
• 1:49:05
  Hanging out with us, man. Thank you for your information,
• 1:49:08
  for your book, for your knowledge, and and as you can
• 1:49:11
  see, we are we're all on the same page with you.
• 1:49:13
  So we look forward to having some more discussions and
• 1:49:15
  figuring out how to implement these conversations that are
• 1:49:18
  missing. They're missing in our
• 1:49:20
  community, in our school. So that's what.
• 1:49:24
  We're up to write a book, man called Why?
• 1:49:26
  Why bully me? But Drake, it hurt you.
• 1:49:27
  What do you call the book you scared of kid?
• 1:49:30
  Bring back scare straight bring it back.
• 1:49:33
  Bring it back. That's.
• 1:49:34
  Right. I told Doctor Bond, yes, on
• 1:49:39
  Monday, like man, we need to have a boot camp.
• 1:49:40
  I'd say because man, LA, you know, if LAUSD is so protective,
• 1:49:44
  you can't really say nothing because the child could be like,
• 1:49:47
  oh, he said something to me or he.
• 1:49:48
  He in jail. Be in trouble but I'm like bro
• 1:49:51
  like I can. You can only say so much.
• 1:49:54
  Yeah, right. You need to have a boot camp so
• 1:49:57
  so we could do some front leaning rest or something.
• 1:49:59
  Everything but they messed up like you directive, you don't
• 1:50:03
  get in shape at the same time or something.
• 1:50:05
  But there's this. They're so protected, not in the
• 1:50:08
  wrong way, but you really can't even say much to them without.
• 1:50:12
  Right. Trying to get it.
• 1:50:14
  You might be in trouble for saying something, but you can't
• 1:50:15
  do that. You can't.
• 1:50:16
  Say that and listen, at Washington Prep High School,
• 1:50:19
  they had two ROTC instructors. One was there for a long time
• 1:50:25
  and he had his uniforms like that in the front lobby, blah,
• 1:50:28
  blah. Man, he, he, he said something
• 1:50:31
  to kid kids and he said something.
• 1:50:32
  They, they, they got rid of him. Man, yeah.
• 1:50:35
  The kids are the winners. The kids are the winners.
• 1:50:38
  So definitely. So Mr. Woman, what we're going
• 1:50:41
  to do with you is make sure we get our information and then of
• 1:50:45
  course we would love to you guys come out again.
• 1:50:48
  Me and for Ron is doing a grand opening for all male salon
• 1:50:54
  called Yeah it's called Hammer and Nails yeah so all males not
• 1:50:58
  have a bar it's done for the for the gentleman to get pampered
• 1:51:02
  the owner of Fred's Russell we going to be doing live so you go
• 1:51:05
  out and get yourself done Rodney we we have a day let.
• 1:51:08
  You know. I'll let you know and it's
• 1:51:10
  going. Yeah, hey, I'm coming down.
• 1:51:12
  Yeah, come out, support your vets, come.
• 1:51:15
  We're going to have vets there. We have some special guests
• 1:51:17
  there coming out. So look out for me and for Ron
• 1:51:19
  doing, you know. Bags to canvas live sports show
• 1:51:22
  from Hammer Nails at SB 12121 Olympic Blvd. in the city of
• 1:51:28
  near Brentwood area. So nice area right in the middle
• 1:51:30
  of the conference. So feds.
• 1:51:33
  Mel Russell is the CEO owner. There's a franchise.
• 1:51:35
  Anyone can own one. Anybody can own a Hammer Nails
• 1:51:38
  on Salon for Men. I appreciate y'all for hanging
• 1:51:41
  out with with us tonight on on on the Trench Talk edition.
• 1:51:44
  Thank you for Ron. For your time, I appreciate
• 1:51:46
  y'all good seeing y'all All right, take care.
• 1:51:51
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• 1:51:53
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