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DVSN Talks Being Signed To Drake, Collaborating With Mac Miller, Toxic Backlash From New Song +More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club. Morning.
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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
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Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
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Speaker 1: the building, some special guests. Yes, guess Division, What up?
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Speaker 1: What up? What up? Morning? You got individual names? Good
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Speaker 1: night Daniel, Right, Daniel, Welcome, it's your first time here.
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Speaker 1: But people that don't know who Division is, breakdown who
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Speaker 1: you are? Where y'are from? Um? Division is uh singer
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Speaker 1: producer Combo. I'm the singer of the group. This is
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Speaker 1: the producer from Toronto. UM. Yeah, and we are trying
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Speaker 1: to own R and B right now. You're signed the
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Speaker 1: Drake's Ovio sound right? Yeah? How's that been? You know a
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Speaker 1: a lot of people say artist shouldn't sign the other artists.
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Speaker 1: How how's that been? Why? Why do you think people
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Speaker 1: say that, I don't know. I'm not an artist. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. People will usually say that when they signed
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Speaker 1: to an autist, you'll never get bigger than the artist
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Speaker 1: that you actually signed. That's not true. He got signed away, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So it always pans out. I mean, we're we're we're
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Speaker 1: kind of self contained, so we don't really look outside
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Speaker 1: to anybody to like have to give us the alleyup
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Speaker 1: or you know, come in and write the song for
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Speaker 1: us or do anything like that. So we really kind
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Speaker 1: of just stay in our our space, make what we're
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Speaker 1: gonna make, and then kind of go out. We've been
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Speaker 1: lucky to have some dope fans that have kind of
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Speaker 1: really you know, help us get to this place and
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Speaker 1: like showed out to all the shows and know the
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Speaker 1: lyrics and the songs, and you know, um have been
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Speaker 1: supporting the whole thing. I mean, Angela, you know, she's
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Speaker 1: She's I've always loved division. Let me ask you this though,
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Speaker 1: when you guys, when Drake debut, you guys on over
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Speaker 1: your radio, did you already know, like what's the deal done? Okay,
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Speaker 1: So how did all of that happen? Is at that
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Speaker 1: point I was working with him, We were working on Views.
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Speaker 1: I think that's why we're working on the Views album.
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Speaker 1: And I got a spot to do like a DJ
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Speaker 1: segment on Opio Sign Radio, So I was like, I'll
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Speaker 1: play whatever I want, so I might as well play
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Speaker 1: my own group. Oh yeah, do you all feel like
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Speaker 1: he stands next to Yard the way the way that
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Speaker 1: he should, because you know, you look at other artists
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Speaker 1: that are signed. The other artists like you'll see Ross
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Speaker 1: with his guys, you saw it Hold with his guys
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Speaker 1: back and even Wayne. Wayne is the great extent, but
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Speaker 1: always stood next to Young Money. I feel like he
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Speaker 1: stays the next yard the way you should. I feel
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Speaker 1: like it's it's that's up to everybody else to kind
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Speaker 1: of like figure out what they think is what they should.
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Speaker 1: As far as we feel, we just we are thankful
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Speaker 1: for anything that we get at this point, you know,
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Speaker 1: anybody that that has given us the opportunities that that
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Speaker 1: have helped us get here, we're just thankful for. Like
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Speaker 1: in the beginning, but when we signed, he not only
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Speaker 1: put us on Views, which is one of the biggest
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Speaker 1: albums of the time obviously, and right after that we
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Speaker 1: were on a tour with him. We did Summer sixteen,
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Speaker 1: right so that Alane And it's like whether you whether whatever,
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Speaker 1: however much you stand, you post you Instagram or you
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Speaker 1: don't like, please give you. Yeah, We're thankful for We
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Speaker 1: just take anything and turn it into energy. When people
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Speaker 1: were trying to figure out who Division was at first,
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Speaker 1: what are some of the craziest things you heard? Because
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Speaker 1: it was a lot of like who is division? How
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Speaker 1: many people are in the group? I mean people thought that,
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Speaker 1: people thought he was singing, People thought it was me.
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Speaker 1: That was because he had kind of had a name already.
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Speaker 1: He did hotline blame, he did too much, he did
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Speaker 1: What else did you have at the time? Hold on,
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Speaker 1: we're going home? You got some money? He already had
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Speaker 1: all that. So by the time by the time people
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Speaker 1: were trying to figure out division, they were trying they
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Speaker 1: were confused with whether it was him, whether there was
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Speaker 1: like a huge group behind it because they heard like
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Speaker 1: girl voices and choir voices, because we usually used to
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Speaker 1: choir in songs like like too Deep and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: So I think people were kind of like, oh, there
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Speaker 1: girls in it, there's the guys, is it? What is it?
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Speaker 1: And you know it was it was me singing and producing.
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Speaker 1: Too Deep is one of my favorite songs to put
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Speaker 1: on like a love making type of playlist, Right, So
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Speaker 1: can you talk about the meaning behind that because you
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Speaker 1: try to say it's not about like not pulling out, No,
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Speaker 1: it is, but it's the double meaning because it plays
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Speaker 1: on you know, when you're into deep, into you know,
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Speaker 1: a relationship, anything in a situation you don't want to
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Speaker 1: pull back, you know, so it's like we're here, like,
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Speaker 1: let's let's live in the moment. That's so clever. I
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Speaker 1: really just was like, man, they're not pulling out, but
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Speaker 1: then yes, it isn't. Yeah, that's good for people know
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Speaker 1: that because then you know that. Uh. If I get
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Speaker 1: caught recording the first toxic record y'all made, then why
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Speaker 1: is too deep talking? That's toxic? What is the definition record? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: What is the definition of toxic? Not pulling out? Its
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Speaker 1: toxic is child birth and beautiful procreation? M a random woman?
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Speaker 1: Okay you can. You have to have context, then you can't.
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Speaker 1: You didn't say that, you you just said a couple
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Speaker 1: of times I'm married. Do you'll ever listen to home
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Speaker 1: music like when you're sex? No? No, never, never. That's
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Speaker 1: like jacking off to put it off? How do you
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Speaker 1: hook up with your main dore and whose idea was
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Speaker 1: if I can? Okay, Jermaine was well. Shout out to
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Speaker 1: our our management team at helvran Um. They kind of
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Speaker 1: put together the first session and it was it just
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Speaker 1: ended up being me and Jermaine just just there and
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Speaker 1: at in Atlanta, in Atlanta and Suside and yeah. Literally
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Speaker 1: you could fast forward maybe seventy two hours and it
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Speaker 1: felt like we were like brothers. Like that was just
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Speaker 1: like like a big brother children, you know, absolutely five.
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Speaker 1: So you know it's the relationship just kind of grew
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Speaker 1: and grew and grew. It's like I'm you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: having Christmas and New Year's Eve that his house just
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Speaker 1: met him is Tina like him and his mom. You know,
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Speaker 1: Like the relationship just really built. And if I get
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Speaker 1: caught was already we were already a bunch of records
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Speaker 1: deep into this project that we're doing. And one day
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Speaker 1: we opened the studio door and he's just humming away.
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Speaker 1: As soon as he opened the door, he's like, and
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know you. And I was like, like,
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Speaker 1: what did you just say? Like and I'm like, that's
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Speaker 1: exactly what I want to say. How did what is that?
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Speaker 1: And so he walked into the studio. B Cox is
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Speaker 1: already there playing strings and keys and stuff. And eighty
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Speaker 1: five came up with this idea of like he's like, Yo,
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Speaker 1: the way we use choir girl choirs, what if we
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Speaker 1: flip it and make it a bunch of guys saying
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Speaker 1: this and make it like a chant, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, and I sat down and I wrote
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Speaker 1: these verses. Now the song, I think I think that
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Speaker 1: on first listen, you people hear one thing, maybe even
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Speaker 1: second and third not a video. The video gives it
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Speaker 1: more content, a little bit more content, but I still
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Speaker 1: feel like, um, some people are still a little bit
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Speaker 1: confused abut what I'm actually talking about. Well, explain, because
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Speaker 1: is it safe to say that record is toxic? No,
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Speaker 1: definitely about that record everybody. Before you explain, continue with
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Speaker 1: the story how the jay Z sample came about and
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Speaker 1: all that, Oh okay you want to say. With the
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Speaker 1: jay Z sample, we were kind of just talking back
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Speaker 1: and forth and I was like, yo, order if you
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Speaker 1: use that line from song cry and cut it up.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, mmm, I don't know if we're gonna
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Speaker 1: get that cleared. And Jemaine's like, yo, you do what
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Speaker 1: you gotta do. I'll make those calls. I'm like you sure,
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Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, you leave that to me. So
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Speaker 1: I did it, and still I was kind of thinking,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna get this to go.
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Speaker 1: And then in the group chat, he just he sent
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Speaker 1: that that same thing that we posted and I was like, Oh,
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Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why people think it's toxic too,
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Speaker 1: because jay Z said it is even more toxic than Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I just hear more women saying that than anything. Nah,
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Speaker 1: it's honestly, it's not. It's not toxic at all. Explain explain. So, Um,
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Speaker 1: people hear the song and they think I'm saying, Yo,
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Speaker 1: I'm cheating on you. Eat that or hold that, you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of that kind of vibe. Um. The record, for one,
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Speaker 1: is not talking about a guy that's cheating at all.
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Speaker 1: The whole song is me talking about being in a
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Speaker 1: situation with somebody who starts to feel like maybe or
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Speaker 1: their person is cheating on them, and I start to
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Speaker 1: address it from the standpoint of somebody that's like noticing that, Yo,
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Speaker 1: everything that used to attract that attracted you to me,
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Speaker 1: as I'll, turned into your insecurity. Ye, you wouldn't want
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Speaker 1: me if other girls didn't want me. Yeah. The whole
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Speaker 1: idea of like, yo, I was I dressed well when
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Speaker 1: you met me. Now it's where you're getting dressed and
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Speaker 1: where you're going. You know, it was I was charismatic
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Speaker 1: and fun to be around when you went out when
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Speaker 1: you met me. Now it's like all you always in
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Speaker 1: people's face. You always got to talk who we always
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Speaker 1: you always got to be entertaining people. You always want
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Speaker 1: to be so funny. I think it's the part I
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Speaker 1: was sucking them girls I was gonna get. I don't
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Speaker 1: say that. It's not that point. It's the it's the
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Speaker 1: it's the hook. But even whatever, let me keep going. No,
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Speaker 1: everything is me addressing, like this is why you like? This?
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Speaker 1: Is this all the things that have turned into and
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Speaker 1: I'm sure we can all be in situations that men
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Speaker 1: and women right right where. It's like everything that you
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Speaker 1: liked about me you are now have not turned to
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Speaker 1: insecurities because you realize other people like them. Correct. I
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Speaker 1: always watch my penis in the sink when I come home.
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Speaker 1: You like, come on, wow, oh my god, what I've
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Speaker 1: actually never done that? You haven't done it a little bit. Never,
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Speaker 1: I've never done the penis sink. You're not gonna give
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Speaker 1: no contact to that. You're just gonna that's what people do.
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Speaker 1: You know, My guys cheat we're talking about I know,
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Speaker 1: y'all cool, Maybe y'all that's why do that? When they cheat,
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Speaker 1: they wash their penis in the sink, Because why do.
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Speaker 1: They can just take a regular show exactly what you
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Speaker 1: get caught. They don't want to run home and take
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Speaker 1: a shower. That's when chet take a shower where you at?
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Speaker 1: Has this happened to you before? I don't know if
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Speaker 1: it's happened because I haven't witnessed it, but I know
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Speaker 1: guys have said that they just bath. It's called the
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Speaker 1: bath when I never heard that either. Back to Penis
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Speaker 1: in the sink and watch. You're a guy, right, aren't y'all?
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Speaker 1: Guys I've never put my I'm trying to Penis. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: I'm back, but let me get back to let im saying.
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Speaker 1: So now the insecurity to turn to the point where
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Speaker 1: it's like you're digging through phones, you're checking laptops, you're
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Speaker 1: doing all these these things to try to find something right,
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Speaker 1: and then you have to get into the psychology of
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Speaker 1: trying to find something. It's like, are you trying to
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Speaker 1: find something to be upset or you trying to find
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Speaker 1: something so you can find a way to leave? Right?
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Speaker 1: And my whole thing with this is, okay, So if
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Speaker 1: it's to leave, why would you why why would you
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Speaker 1: want to leave somebody? Because when even if I was
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Speaker 1: to have done this. If hypothetically I was done this,
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be because I all of a sudden fell
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Speaker 1: out of love with you. It would be because I
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Speaker 1: was being a selfish idiot and maybe did some stupid
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Speaker 1: some stupid things I shouldn't have done. Self indulging, freaking um,
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Speaker 1: being caught up in my ego, maybe trying to stroke
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Speaker 1: my own ego and myself feel good. There's a bunch
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Speaker 1: of reasons that people cheat. I don't think. I don't
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Speaker 1: think people cheat just because all of a sudden I
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Speaker 1: lot people don't think, oh I'm not Guys, don't think
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Speaker 1: I'm not in love with you anymore. So now I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna have sex. That's not what it is. We could
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Speaker 1: We can have the whole woman that we want and
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Speaker 1: still be outside doing stupid things doing That's what the
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Speaker 1: song is about. Yeah, I agree. I think men cheat
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Speaker 1: purely for ego. I mean, like, I know every time
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Speaker 1: that I did it back in the day was literally
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Speaker 1: because I had a a wounded ego. Like it's like
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Speaker 1: it's like pouring water into a cup that got a
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Speaker 1: hole in exact, it never feels it never feels right.
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Speaker 1: So I think that what what what did you find
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Speaker 1: my best apple water? I think that um, that one
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Speaker 1: mistake ruined everything. Oh I wouldn't Yeah, I definitely wouldn't
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Speaker 1: want that to happen. But I mean, it's not saying
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Speaker 1: that it can't though, because at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: it's it's up to you. It's it's everyone's individual decision
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Speaker 1: whether or not if you want to stay. I can
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Speaker 1: have a choice now you now have much or I
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Speaker 1: can leave, which makes people the people know it's not
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Speaker 1: just the j because even even the girls, I know,
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Speaker 1: but even with everything you're saying, I understand the hypothetical,
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Speaker 1: but when you tell a woman, but the truth is,
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Speaker 1: if I do get caught cheating that I don't luck.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even bring that hypothetical up. Yeah, because you
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Speaker 1: don't want to have that honest conversation. And that's what
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Speaker 1: triggered everybody online. But I don't want to have a
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Speaker 1: conversation because I'm not cheating. That's fine, but most people
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Speaker 1: don't want to have to conversation because they've been down there,
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Speaker 1: they've been down that role, they've had to deal with cheating.
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Speaker 1: Neither have to have a pass with it. Somebody did
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Speaker 1: that to them. Somebody someone, someone hurt them there, someone's
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Speaker 1: left uh, some PTSD there, and that's what that's what's
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Speaker 1: caused this this stir. It's triggering. It's yeah, I'm please.
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Speaker 1: I played one time for my wife just to let
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Speaker 1: her hear it. She didn't want to hear that ship
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Speaker 1: to trigger and turner. Yeah, yeah, you know the young
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Speaker 1: I say, how they young? You know going to it.
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Speaker 1: But but let me ask you guys this, do you
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Speaker 1: guys disagree or agree with that statement? Well, if I
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Speaker 1: don't get that, you don't have to fall out of
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Speaker 1: love with somebody, that's an old school listen, by the way,
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Speaker 1: that's that's old I think that classic line. So then
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Speaker 1: what are we really talking about? Is toxic? Or do
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Speaker 1: we just replace toxic toxic with honest? I think it's
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Speaker 1: the other part where you say it's just one little fuss.
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Speaker 1: I can relate to it. If I get called cheating
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Speaker 1: on mean, I don't love you. We've all said that before.
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Speaker 1: I ain't know, told my wife it was just one
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Speaker 1: little fuck. She hit you back, like well, I gave
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Speaker 1: somebody head. It was one little suck. Yeah, exactly, the
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Speaker 1: exact same, the exact same, the exact same, situation. I'm
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Speaker 1: now in a position where it's like, Okay, do am
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Speaker 1: I gonna stay? Am I gonna leave? I'm like, what
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Speaker 1: am I gonna do here? Just the same thing. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Is it frustrating to you that this song got so
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Speaker 1: much attention when you guys put it out and then
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Speaker 1: people for some people that that might be the first
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Speaker 1: like listen of division and yeah, and they're like, these
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Speaker 1: guys are super toxic. Yeah. No, you know, honestly it
14:37
Speaker 1: got us here. We heard the breakfast Club y'all could
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Speaker 1: have been on Hey, I never got to invite y'all.
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Speaker 1: I mean, oh, I didn't know he's cool with you
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Speaker 1: yet that I live service twice that even before you
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Speaker 1: had a form of producer, name was sa I should
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Speaker 1: love y'all a long time ago, long long time ago,
14:55
Speaker 1: before y'all signed with with with Drake, I was gonna relationships.
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Speaker 1: No No, I was about to say, I was gonna say,
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Speaker 1: what did your girls feel about it? No? No, But
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Speaker 1: I mean we've we've heard the women. We've definitely aware
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Speaker 1: people are like, what about I think there's been a
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Speaker 1: lot of women that immediately there's the triggering effect of it,
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Speaker 1: and they're like I can't believe you guys are out
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Speaker 1: here promoting like a cheater's anthem with a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of guys on the hook. And then there's the other
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Speaker 1: women that are like, you know what, I can see
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Speaker 1: why you would say this, because you know, I've been
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Speaker 1: in a situation like that before, or I've done it myself.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of women now, not at first,
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Speaker 1: as the days go by, there's a lot of women
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Speaker 1: now kind of kind of coming out and be like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I've done that, of course happening like like, um, right
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Speaker 1: after we dropped it, we I got a dm um
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Speaker 1: from from a lady saying, you know, um, I love
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Speaker 1: the song. It's super catchy. It's this and this and that. Congratulations.
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Speaker 1: You know, I just can't play it in the house.
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Speaker 1: I cheated on my husband and and you know, he
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Speaker 1: stayed with me, And I said, you know what, at
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Speaker 1: if you don't mind me asking like, you know, why
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Speaker 1: did you cheat? Because that's really what I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: get at here. We were trying to talk about some
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Speaker 1: conversations and I was like, why did you cheat? And
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Speaker 1: she was like, I just had a baby a little
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Speaker 1: while before. You know, me and him were having our
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Speaker 1: little you know times where it's just kind of like
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Speaker 1: we're just involved in our own lives and um, an
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Speaker 1: old fling that I used to talk to. UM, you know,
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Speaker 1: he popped back up and he started, you know, asking
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Speaker 1: me for selfies and pictures, and it made me feel
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Speaker 1: sexy again and again. As soon as she said that,
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Speaker 1: I was like, it's it's the ego over there too.
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Speaker 1: It goes both ways, right, And nowadays it's like, if
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Speaker 1: we're being honest, in twenty twenty two, women are cheating
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Speaker 1: just as much, if not more than men. Come up
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Speaker 1: with this statistic. I got this from he We got
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Speaker 1: these from actual professionals. I'm not saying I think this
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Speaker 1: is what I was told from somebody who has studied.
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Speaker 1: I'm just telling giving you guys what the information. I've
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Speaker 1: never cheated on a woman before. Yeah, yeah, And what
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Speaker 1: was the reasons he could he write this song. I've
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Speaker 1: watched a penis in the sit not like i've I've
17:39
Speaker 1: I've been on all sides of that. I've been on
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Speaker 1: the side where I've done it, and been on the
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Speaker 1: side where I've done it and got caught. I've been
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Speaker 1: on the side of it where I've done it and
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Speaker 1: not got caught. I've been on side where I'm pretty
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Speaker 1: sure it happened to me, you know. So that's why
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Speaker 1: I speak about it because it's like, this is this
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Speaker 1: is a real thing. If if this was just some
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Speaker 1: song that had no validity to it, people just ignore it.
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Speaker 1: Would you want somebody to tell you if they cheated
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Speaker 1: on you? Absolutely you would want them to tell y'all. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: if I already didn't know, I don't know that because
18:11
Speaker 1: that happened to you, right, No, I want to know.
18:13
Speaker 1: You wouldn't because also they've said I've seen this and
18:17
Speaker 1: um on telling it. They said, if you don't get caught,
18:20
Speaker 1: you shouldn't tell because that's really to relieve your own guilt.
18:23
Speaker 1: And all that's gonna do is, Yeah, I feel like
18:26
Speaker 1: if we're good and I am not suspecting something you
18:30
Speaker 1: telling me, it's probably going to put me in a
18:32
Speaker 1: position of having like doubts. Yeah, okay, you wouldn't respect
18:36
Speaker 1: the honesty. It really depends where we're at because some
18:41
Speaker 1: of these things, I feel like certain seeds once they're
18:44
Speaker 1: once they're planted, you can't stop it from growing. So
18:47
Speaker 1: if it wasn't already growing for me, I might be
18:51
Speaker 1: better off just not knowing why funk up my life? Yeah,
18:54
Speaker 1: like why like especially if if let's let's say you
18:57
Speaker 1: did it, you're you're you're not gonna do it again.
19:00
Speaker 1: It was a mistake. I'm with you. I think a
19:02
Speaker 1: lot of times the reason we come clean is because,
19:04
Speaker 1: like our conscience is eating us up so much and
19:06
Speaker 1: we end up projecting, you know, our guilt onto our
19:09
Speaker 1: significant others. So we start seeing that blaming them for
19:12
Speaker 1: stuff and saying that they're doing stuff that they're not
19:14
Speaker 1: doing because of what we're doing. So we want to
19:16
Speaker 1: just get that off our chests. That's what I think.
19:19
Speaker 1: What song comes after this down now? See Okay, So
19:22
Speaker 1: that that's because it has to be that's a great question.
19:26
Speaker 1: Your clothes. This album is, this album is a story. Um.
19:32
Speaker 1: We started at the ego, right, and then naturally it
19:36
Speaker 1: goes to all the places where that can get you.
19:39
Speaker 1: You know, Um, there's there's reflections, accountability, there's remorse, there's
19:43
Speaker 1: gross there's um, you know, hopefully reapproaching all these things
19:50
Speaker 1: and situations that that you may have failed that in
19:53
Speaker 1: the in the past. Um, the next record is a
20:00
Speaker 1: step in that direction. I'm not going to say too
20:02
Speaker 1: much about it. It's definitely super R and B produced
20:07
Speaker 1: by j D, produced by B Cox, and it's it's
20:12
Speaker 1: special especials what I like about the record, and we had,
20:15
Speaker 1: you know, we had some debates about this a couple
20:17
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. It's so hard to put out music
20:20
Speaker 1: and have people care, right, even if the music is banging.
20:23
Speaker 1: So the fact that y'all started a conversation, regardless how
20:26
Speaker 1: people feel about the record, in fact, that it started
20:28
Speaker 1: a large conversation, that's a win, no for sure. That's
20:31
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons we well, that's probably the
20:33
Speaker 1: main reason we put this song out. We've had the
20:35
Speaker 1: song for about six months and we would have people
20:37
Speaker 1: come by the studio. We play a bunch of records,
20:40
Speaker 1: and even though there would be a lot of people
20:41
Speaker 1: that said they had other songs as their favorite, that
20:44
Speaker 1: song got people talking and we'd have huge debates for
20:47
Speaker 1: hours sometimes about that record record break out. Maybe that's
20:52
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we need to start the conversation and
20:54
Speaker 1: then we'll fill in the other pieces later. Because there's
20:56
Speaker 1: definitely the songs that would have fit the R and
21:00
Speaker 1: be story better. I'm gonna fit the traditional division you
21:03
Speaker 1: know path way better. But we need we need to
21:07
Speaker 1: start these conversations and have people kind of tune in,
21:10
Speaker 1: you know. And I seeing a lot of people say like, oh,
21:12
Speaker 1: I think Division just did this because you know, for
21:15
Speaker 1: the attention or for the conversation. So but at the
21:19
Speaker 1: same time, it's like, if people weren't talking about what
21:21
Speaker 1: we're doing before, is that our fault to yours? Yeah,
21:23
Speaker 1: and y'all a artists at the end of the day,
21:24
Speaker 1: so there is marketing. So it was wrong with throwing
21:26
Speaker 1: something about that you know, people gonna get people talking,
21:28
Speaker 1: isn't at the point? Not only that, but for me,
21:31
Speaker 1: it's like how how how are we ever going to
21:35
Speaker 1: progress if we don't start having the conversation as a people,
21:40
Speaker 1: you know, like as relationships period. If we just try
21:44
Speaker 1: to keep trying to ignore things, never understand the other
21:47
Speaker 1: the other one, we're never gonna get anywhere. So for
21:51
Speaker 1: us it was important to be like, we know what
21:54
Speaker 1: conversations come from this, we know where it takes us,
21:56
Speaker 1: and that's the that's the way that we're going to
21:58
Speaker 1: start raking down the relationship to start reconstructing the relationship.
22:03
Speaker 1: How do you think they response to be if a
22:05
Speaker 1: woman put that song this song out, you guys, would
22:08
Speaker 1: you guys would are you guys? It would be you
22:11
Speaker 1: know what they already started doing responses to talk to ours,
22:15
Speaker 1: and I see the girls as soon as they hear
22:17
Speaker 1: the girls're like yes, go yeah, yeah, women's women's wor
22:24
Speaker 1: women's like getting with a lot When Scissors said, I'll
22:29
Speaker 1: you know, I'll have you on the weekend and then
22:31
Speaker 1: you can go back to whatever you're doing throughout the week, Like,
22:34
Speaker 1: isn't that kind of crazy? Side chick anthems have been
22:36
Speaker 1: around for a long time, isn't that kind of crazy
22:38
Speaker 1: because somebody's cheating in that scenario like s WV, Like
22:42
Speaker 1: I'm so into you all of those records like Little Secret,
22:46
Speaker 1: I like being I like being the same thing with
22:47
Speaker 1: you and your girlfriend. The fact that she don't really
22:50
Speaker 1: turn me on, Yeah like it. I think that I
22:53
Speaker 1: think there would go it would it would go super crazy.
22:55
Speaker 1: I mean we're fortunate to that that The tide is
22:58
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, shifted as far as it went
23:02
Speaker 1: from like shock and almost outraged to like people being like,
23:04
Speaker 1: but it's a bob though, people like, oh, super catchy
23:07
Speaker 1: someone to my head and you know, I'm not gonna lie.
23:09
Speaker 1: I like the song. And it's a lot of women
23:11
Speaker 1: now that are admitting and the ones putting the selfie
23:14
Speaker 1: videos up and playing the song, so it's beautiful. I mean,
23:17
Speaker 1: yesterday we found out, you know, it's the number one
23:19
Speaker 1: most added song Urban radio for this week. So you
23:22
Speaker 1: know I didn't like about the record was the sample.
23:24
Speaker 1: To be honest with, I didn't think you needed. Nah.
23:27
Speaker 1: I like the hook. I mean the hook was better.
23:28
Speaker 1: Oh you just said, oh you didn't like you just
23:31
Speaker 1: think it wasn't necessary. No, I still love that. That
23:33
Speaker 1: made me feel extra. I'm a hip hopcast though, so
23:36
Speaker 1: that just made me feel like And it's even just
23:38
Speaker 1: to read text between Jay and j D just for
23:42
Speaker 1: that that sake alone. I mean, where did Jay tell
23:45
Speaker 1: Jad to put that text out? Was that part of
23:46
Speaker 1: the rollout? No, Jay didn't tell him to do it.
23:49
Speaker 1: They didn't tell him asking you just gonna do that.
23:56
Speaker 1: What do you think about this generation of RB UM.
24:01
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be in great hands with the vision.
24:03
Speaker 1: I think this generation of R and B listener is
24:06
Speaker 1: different than before. Before people would all kind of flock
24:10
Speaker 1: to the same thing. Now, there's so many different types
24:13
Speaker 1: of R and B that you can get into, but
24:15
Speaker 1: people keep complaining about the one they want to hear
24:19
Speaker 1: not being the biggest. But it's like, you can go
24:21
Speaker 1: and listen to whatever you want. It's there. I love
24:24
Speaker 1: the R and bds out right now. There's so much
24:26
Speaker 1: to take in, but there's always this conversation of oh,
24:30
Speaker 1: it's not like the nineties, it's not like the two thousands,
24:33
Speaker 1: but even that stuff it's around, like you can find it.
24:36
Speaker 1: I think it's just so much easier to focus on
24:39
Speaker 1: the toxic R and B or the not as singer
24:45
Speaker 1: songwriter oriented R and B and be like, oh, this
24:47
Speaker 1: isn't what I'm used to. I think a lot of
24:49
Speaker 1: times it's just too much music. It's a lot to consume, right,
24:53
Speaker 1: so you don't sit with stuff as much, you know
24:55
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I will say this, no matter
24:57
Speaker 1: what party i'm djane, if it's a twenty one year
25:00
Speaker 1: old party, an eighteen year old party, or thirty year
25:02
Speaker 1: old party, they know everything from can't stand in the
25:05
Speaker 1: rain to you know, to to y'all. So I think
25:11
Speaker 1: that's dope too. It is it's music that sticks, you know,
25:13
Speaker 1: And as far as toxic content. It's always been toxic content.
25:15
Speaker 1: I just think the only difference is the presentation now,
25:18
Speaker 1: like some of these R and B singers be rapping
25:20
Speaker 1: instead of singing it. You know, a lot of a
25:22
Speaker 1: lot of these singers, a lot of the singers, they're
25:24
Speaker 1: not really singers people. You know, we'd like to hear
25:27
Speaker 1: taxic songs sung beautifully. I think, like if you think
25:31
Speaker 1: about like secret lovers back in the day and like
25:33
Speaker 1: I said, Whitney Houston saving all my love for you,
25:36
Speaker 1: she's you know, he's with his family and I'm here
25:39
Speaker 1: waiting for you. The songs that sung beautifully, but what
25:43
Speaker 1: are they about? Yeah, did you ever think about putting
25:45
Speaker 1: the future on the record? No, shout out the future.
25:52
Speaker 1: Shout out the future. That's that's the homy. But no,
25:55
Speaker 1: we we wanted this. I mean it has such a
26:01
Speaker 1: it has such a traditional R and B M vibe
26:06
Speaker 1: to it. When it's stripped down, I think it's the
26:08
Speaker 1: big eight of weights and the thing that makes it.
26:10
Speaker 1: You know, but that's good because it's what has people
26:12
Speaker 1: singing it in the clubs and bumping it out right.
26:15
Speaker 1: But um, at the core of it, it's like three
26:17
Speaker 1: or four timing ballad that like Jermaine was in there
26:20
Speaker 1: really like on some like blues you know when he
26:23
Speaker 1: made that record. So when he made that try that
26:25
Speaker 1: hook and that that that that part of it. So um,
26:29
Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't imagining some any like a trap
26:32
Speaker 1: rapper or you know any of that. I just he
26:35
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that this was an Armby record.
26:37
Speaker 1: He's so proud to be like, Yo, they're playing an
26:40
Speaker 1: R and B record in Magic right now and it's
26:43
Speaker 1: going off like like a little baby record in here,
26:46
Speaker 1: you know, and it's an R and B like we're
26:47
Speaker 1: making R and B important like, and it's beautiful to
26:50
Speaker 1: see his his passion like fueled like that and to be,
26:55
Speaker 1: you know, the vessel I want to talk to talk
26:58
Speaker 1: about y'all. This is artist like like, but first of all,
27:01
Speaker 1: how important is Drake to the Toronto music scene? Is
27:05
Speaker 1: there a path for division without a Drake? Really is
27:08
Speaker 1: the Toronto music scene? You know? Because before that there
27:11
Speaker 1: was not a scene that you guys would have known. Yeah,
27:14
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I can think like Cardinal Ficia,
27:17
Speaker 1: you knew people, but there wasn't necessarily a scene. Yeah,
27:20
Speaker 1: you know, it was just like, oh wait, you're from Toronto, right,
27:22
Speaker 1: Oh Deborah Cox, Oh she's from Toronto. But there was
27:24
Speaker 1: no there was nothing that you could kind of attach
27:27
Speaker 1: to anything. Yeah, and now it's like there's a sound.
27:30
Speaker 1: You know, all of our producers, you know, well, we
27:34
Speaker 1: have a few R and B artists. As far as
27:38
Speaker 1: what people attached to Drake is the whole um, I
27:45
Speaker 1: guess like the the honest and moodiness that came with
27:50
Speaker 1: it has almost become like the Toronto sound. But that's
27:54
Speaker 1: in everything though, like across the board, Like you go
27:56
Speaker 1: to the UK, it's there. You go to Atlanta, it's there,
27:59
Speaker 1: you go to Legs there, And I think with that
28:03
Speaker 1: comes the expectation that everything is going to have some
28:08
Speaker 1: sort of Drake lineage, which in some ways it does
28:12
Speaker 1: because it's like he's the one that like opened the
28:14
Speaker 1: door for everybody. Like literally everybody coming out of Toronto
28:18
Speaker 1: has to on some level be like, yeah, Drake's Drake's
28:21
Speaker 1: the guy until your point. He created a scene, He
28:23
Speaker 1: gave us a scene, a visual like oh okay, there's
28:26
Speaker 1: something going on there, so so what about you? Yeah,
28:30
Speaker 1: for sure, I mean everybody's I think everybody, all the
28:32
Speaker 1: artists out of Toronto. They're all talented enough to have
28:36
Speaker 1: you know, um, broken through at some point or had
28:40
Speaker 1: somebody notice and really be like, oh this person like
28:42
Speaker 1: you know from the Weekend to you know, Um Tory,
28:46
Speaker 1: Daniel Caesar, everybody that's from Toronto but party. But Drake
28:54
Speaker 1: kind of like put C four on the door and
28:56
Speaker 1: kind of blew it open for everyone to kind of
28:58
Speaker 1: run in. So I don't think anybody in the city
29:01
Speaker 1: would ever try and take that from him. Though, what
29:03
Speaker 1: did he think about this record? Did you send it
29:04
Speaker 1: to him first? And we haven't. We have literally have
29:07
Speaker 1: not talked to anybody about any song on this project
29:10
Speaker 1: yet at all. Really literally, I'm telling you we've just
29:14
Speaker 1: been in Southside, just literally in our own zone. So
29:18
Speaker 1: you know, it's a good question. We should we should
29:20
Speaker 1: hit him up and be like, what's going on? But
29:22
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, um, I'm I'm positive he's he's
29:28
Speaker 1: seeing and hearing you know, what's going on, and you
29:30
Speaker 1: know he's he's always Um I would I would think
29:35
Speaker 1: always happy when you know this not only the city
29:37
Speaker 1: gets to win, but when you know the team gets
29:39
Speaker 1: to win. I let that you guys are, like you said,
29:41
Speaker 1: just kind of like doing your own thing and being
29:43
Speaker 1: successful without feeling like you have to rely on the coast.
29:47
Speaker 1: We're still doing sould out shows. Like you said, everybody's
29:50
Speaker 1: singing the lyrics and people know you and it's not
29:52
Speaker 1: like we gotta get Drake on the record in order
29:54
Speaker 1: for this to pop up. Some people don't even make
29:56
Speaker 1: that correlation. They just think division's division. I think that.
29:59
Speaker 1: I love that. I love I love the fact that
30:01
Speaker 1: we we stand behind our brand that strong and we
30:05
Speaker 1: are able to, you know, just stand on our own too.
30:09
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's stronger if you can, you can do that.
30:12
Speaker 1: I think. So what was the vision doing prior to
30:14
Speaker 1: all of this, Like, what's the scene like in Toronto
30:17
Speaker 1: when you're just some aspiring artists trying to get on
30:20
Speaker 1: Is it open mics? Is it going to the radio
30:22
Speaker 1: station with your music? Like what is this? This whole
30:25
Speaker 1: city was like that, the that there's one radio station
30:29
Speaker 1: that will play your music. We was doing that for
30:31
Speaker 1: a little bit, but like blow, yeah, you were you. Yeah,
30:35
Speaker 1: I think we're talking about Donald Trump too much at
30:37
Speaker 1: the time, and it got us right out of it.
30:39
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was it was like that, you know,
30:41
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's really it's super crabbing. It's almost
30:46
Speaker 1: like what people you used to hear about New York
30:49
Speaker 1: and other places where it's like, you know, if you
30:51
Speaker 1: can make it there, you can make it anywhere type thing,
30:53
Speaker 1: because literally nobody was making it. There was nobody that
30:57
Speaker 1: had made it. Wow, it's like and we've been here
30:59
Speaker 1: just as long as everyone else. So that's what the
31:01
Speaker 1: city is kind of in its own special thing because
31:03
Speaker 1: almost like we waited way longer than everyone else. And
31:07
Speaker 1: I know, you guys, for you guys, it's like, you know,
31:10
Speaker 1: Canada over there somewhere. But because we're so close to
31:13
Speaker 1: New York, we and we have New York stations, Buffalo stations, USTv,
31:19
Speaker 1: we feel like we're right there. So we're almost watching
31:23
Speaker 1: every city blow up before us and nothing happening over here.
31:28
Speaker 1: So I think the whole city was kind of almost
31:32
Speaker 1: clicking up on their own, trying to be the first
31:35
Speaker 1: to make it. And if you weren't a part of them,
31:37
Speaker 1: then you know, whatever, we don't care. So it wasn't
31:40
Speaker 1: it was not a huge support as far as the
31:43
Speaker 1: locals until you until Drake happened. And when Drake happened
31:47
Speaker 1: and it started becoming cooler to say, hey, you know
31:51
Speaker 1: they did it, I mean we did it, you know,
31:53
Speaker 1: to start feeling that that ownership with things. That's when
31:56
Speaker 1: things started really changed in the city. Like now it's like,
32:00
Speaker 1: you know, the city loves division, the city loves you know,
32:04
Speaker 1: Drake Xol everybody like that, and so it's just you
32:07
Speaker 1: guys also did that whole collab. But ty Dollars signed
32:10
Speaker 1: Cheers to the How is that balanced working with ty
32:13
Speaker 1: Dollars sign, you know, and going and doing a whole
32:16
Speaker 1: project with him and even making that decision. First off,
32:19
Speaker 1: Tie is crazy. Tie is Tie bounces off off the
32:24
Speaker 1: wall every day. It's it's it's crazy. His creative process
32:29
Speaker 1: is nuts. Like he'll literally sit there and make easily
32:32
Speaker 1: make six seven songs a day, every day, every day,
32:35
Speaker 1: every single day. He is the kind of guy that
32:37
Speaker 1: will be like, Yo, come to the studio at seven.
32:40
Speaker 1: You'll come to the studio at seven and he call
32:42
Speaker 1: me on outside. He'll be like, oh, I'm in Oakland.
32:47
Speaker 1: What you know. He's that kind of guy. He's just
32:50
Speaker 1: like he's so in the moment and he's such a
32:54
Speaker 1: creative that it's it's um, I don't know, it's it's
32:58
Speaker 1: it's it's hilarious to watch. But he that that process
33:01
Speaker 1: that we had was literally came about because of that,
33:04
Speaker 1: because he told me to come out there and do
33:07
Speaker 1: a record with him. So I flew out. He was
33:08
Speaker 1: on tour, hopped on the tour bus. He's like, I
33:10
Speaker 1: gotta studio on the tour bus. Cool, let's make a song,
33:14
Speaker 1: sat in the back. Three days later, we have five songs.
33:18
Speaker 1: He's talking about putting out an EP together, and I
33:21
Speaker 1: was just like, this is not what what the plan was.
33:24
Speaker 1: You know, every day with him is like a whole
33:25
Speaker 1: new adventure. Shout out the tide, by the way, but
33:28
Speaker 1: a whole new adventure that he just like head first
33:32
Speaker 1: jumps into, which which I think is what keeps his
33:35
Speaker 1: energy in the songs and his like spontaneousness so high
33:39
Speaker 1: because you can hear it in the records. Right. He's
33:40
Speaker 1: just kind of like it's whatever. He can be on
33:43
Speaker 1: a rock song one day, a d M song the
33:46
Speaker 1: next day, or you know, a hip hop song and
33:48
Speaker 1: then break it down, just do R and B. When
33:51
Speaker 1: did you guys do? I believed it because Mac Miller's
33:53
Speaker 1: preached on that song. I think that's such a standout
33:55
Speaker 1: song that was right before he passed, literally right before
33:58
Speaker 1: he passed, when we got his final verse because he
34:01
Speaker 1: came to the studio. Matt came to the studio. UM
34:04
Speaker 1: heard the record, loved it. He recording, and then he
34:07
Speaker 1: left and he said, I don't really like my verse.
34:08
Speaker 1: I'm a son. Another one, sent another one back and
34:11
Speaker 1: if and maybe like a week and like three days
34:14
Speaker 1: after that he was gone. Damn. So it was. It was.
34:18
Speaker 1: It was tough. It was tough, and I was just
34:19
Speaker 1: getting to really know him, and you know, UM understand
34:24
Speaker 1: how why he was such a loved person, because when
34:26
Speaker 1: once you get around him, he's just like, oh, it's
34:27
Speaker 1: kind of dope. Good dude. You know, good dude. How
34:30
Speaker 1: much how much other work have y'all done behind the
34:31
Speaker 1: scenes in the industry, like you was far production writing? Um,
34:35
Speaker 1: I done a lot. I did uh one dance. I
34:39
Speaker 1: did get Along Better on the Last Trick album. I
34:41
Speaker 1: did Truffle Butter, I did on the Way Black Time.
34:49
Speaker 1: I did, um what else I do? I've done so
34:55
Speaker 1: many things. I did the Bryson Tiller Drake single, I
34:59
Speaker 1: did oh. I did get the fuck out for Mariah Carey.
35:07
Speaker 1: I did I've done so many, so many things that
35:12
Speaker 1: are just kind of like I do it, keep it moving.
35:14
Speaker 1: But it's kind of been interesting the last few years because, like,
35:18
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a whole double career that
35:20
Speaker 1: people don't know. Like people who know me as nineteen
35:23
Speaker 1: eighty five producer a lot of times don't necessarily know
35:25
Speaker 1: I'm in division. People that know me from division don't
35:28
Speaker 1: necessarily know, like I've been making hits on the other
35:31
Speaker 1: side of the things. So whenever they hear the two
35:34
Speaker 1: come together, they're like, oh, like, how do you like?
35:37
Speaker 1: How do you even have time to balance that? I'm like, honestly,
35:39
Speaker 1: I don't even know how I do it, because I'm
35:40
Speaker 1: just like going back and beside division. Besides Dreck, who
35:43
Speaker 1: do you like to work with? More creative? And why?
35:45
Speaker 1: Who I like to work with? Um? I loved working
35:48
Speaker 1: with Travis I did um coffee Bean on Astra World
35:54
Speaker 1: Future added tricks on me? Who else do I love working?
36:00
Speaker 1: You've been out here? Can you sing it all? I
36:05
Speaker 1: can sing enough to tell him what to sing? Have
36:09
Speaker 1: you ever done a reference track? I can been like
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Speaker 1: I should No, I really like I can tell somebody
36:15
Speaker 1: like sing it like this, But have I done a
36:17
Speaker 1: reference track. I maybe recorded something just for someone to
36:20
Speaker 1: like mimic that, But I've ever been like, I might
36:23
Speaker 1: want to just hap on this a little something. Yes,
36:27
Speaker 1: and no, like I do that in my own It's
36:29
Speaker 1: the first time I've done that at my own time,
36:32
Speaker 1: because I'm just like that creative. So yeah, I've made
36:36
Speaker 1: records before, and I've recorded myself. I've wrapped a song. Um.
36:41
Speaker 1: I used to be in a punk band. Um. I.
36:46
Speaker 1: My thing is if I were to do that, I
36:48
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily want to be in producer mode while doing
36:51
Speaker 1: that at the same time. But I love producing in
36:54
Speaker 1: the punk band. Did you play an instrument or yeah?
36:56
Speaker 1: I was the backup singer and the guitar player. I
37:00
Speaker 1: wrote all the songs. What was the bedest name? We
37:02
Speaker 1: had a bunch of horrible names, but coffee double the Cream.
37:06
Speaker 1: All types of things, the worst, the worst that didn't
37:11
Speaker 1: happen happened coffee double the Cream. We don't need Nobody
37:15
Speaker 1: says that. Nobody comes up and it just said, yeah,
37:26
Speaker 1: you coffee. Oh my god. Can we look this up
37:31
Speaker 1: and find this online? Can we hear some songs on?
37:35
Speaker 1: You know? I'm happy that coffee double Girl. Need you
37:39
Speaker 1: ever hear any of this? No more? The industry is
37:45
Speaker 1: the industry everything you thought it would be. That's far Yeah,
37:49
Speaker 1: I think so everything and not at the same time,
37:53
Speaker 1: it's everything they told like you would hear people talking about.
37:56
Speaker 1: I think you just didn't realize how much it really
37:58
Speaker 1: is that and I really learned that when um I
38:02
Speaker 1: remember people always just tell me you don't want to
38:04
Speaker 1: meet your idols. And then I met a certain producer
38:08
Speaker 1: artist I won't name them, and that experience, I was like, Oh,
38:12
Speaker 1: that's not what I was hoping it would be. You know.
38:15
Speaker 1: I had such high expectations, and then it was a
38:17
Speaker 1: bit of a letdown. And that's why even us working
38:20
Speaker 1: where Jermaine has been so amazing, because he is exactly
38:24
Speaker 1: who you would hope him to be. You know, where
38:26
Speaker 1: a lot of people do not. You know, the industry,
38:28
Speaker 1: it's a lot of smoking mirrors. Oh maybe that is them,
38:31
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Maybe that is them. You
38:32
Speaker 1: just don't know different. Yeah, I wonder should we have
38:34
Speaker 1: expectations with people, like when when when people don't meet
38:38
Speaker 1: our expectations, that aren't fault of their fault, because that's
38:42
Speaker 1: our fault and because the expectation is an assumption, right, Yeah,
38:45
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that goes into who
38:47
Speaker 1: you think they are as an artist or who you
38:49
Speaker 1: think they're projecting to the world as whatever. Meanwhile, that
38:53
Speaker 1: might just be the stage person, right, you know, that's
38:55
Speaker 1: they're they're forward facing h image. But they might go
39:01
Speaker 1: home and be completely different. Well, people are a bad
39:03
Speaker 1: days could have been a bad day. If day he
39:04
Speaker 1: could have an argument with his wife, he couldn't anything. Yeah,
39:08
Speaker 1: is everything moving for y'all? Uh, as far as division
39:11
Speaker 1: is concerned, things moving the way y'all want them to, Like,
39:13
Speaker 1: you feel like y'all should be further along. I mean
39:17
Speaker 1: one thing I've learned. I mean, yeah, I could say that.
39:20
Speaker 1: I think we could all say that though you know,
39:21
Speaker 1: we were even someone with a one hundred million dollars
39:25
Speaker 1: could be like, you know, I should be at a billion,
39:27
Speaker 1: you know by now, Um, But I've learned to just
39:31
Speaker 1: be like, yo, you know, God's timing, God's playing. Let's
39:36
Speaker 1: get into the r. I do have one more question,
39:38
Speaker 1: because I you know, I look at the artists drinking.
39:41
Speaker 1: I feel like drake features and and co signs of
39:44
Speaker 1: artists do more than artists being actually signed his label, dude,
39:48
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, because party is fantastic. I think that,
39:52
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. His approach is very respectful
39:57
Speaker 1: the creative process, and because we are signed, I think
40:00
Speaker 1: a lot of time he's kind of just like, yo,
40:02
Speaker 1: do you do your thing and you you call me
40:04
Speaker 1: in when it's time. Yeah, call me in when it's time.
40:07
Speaker 1: But before that, I don't want to even want to, like,
40:09
Speaker 1: I don't want to overstep like you guys, do what
40:11
Speaker 1: you're doing and then let me know, you know, let
40:13
Speaker 1: me know when you want to pass the ball off.
40:15
Speaker 1: But that's not me, that's on you. I don't think
40:17
Speaker 1: this way was was better because a lot of people
40:19
Speaker 1: who don't know you know you for you, not the
40:22
Speaker 1: Drake Coson. A lot of people didn't know y'all was
40:24
Speaker 1: the heart true and love the music, and now when
40:27
Speaker 1: they hear it's the Drake Cosign, now it's like, oh,
40:28
Speaker 1: even more I like this group. So that's what I think.
40:31
Speaker 1: So at what point do y'all do bring him in
40:32
Speaker 1: on the process because he said he hasn't heard anything yet.
40:35
Speaker 1: Just want to make sense musically. You know, when we
40:37
Speaker 1: have something that what it works, you know works for
40:40
Speaker 1: where he's at, where we're at. You know, I think
40:43
Speaker 1: it's all really just timing with him. As you can see,
40:45
Speaker 1: he's very smart about his music, you know, so for us,
40:49
Speaker 1: it's like it just has to make sense for both. Well,
40:52
Speaker 1: let's get into this toxic single right now. It's if
40:58
Speaker 1: it triggers people, is toxic a little bit? Yeah? Yeah,
41:00
Speaker 1: it's something triggers you that doesn't make it toxic. Yeah,
41:03
Speaker 1: this toxic to the individual. You've never seen a movie
41:08
Speaker 1: that's just like touched you in some kind of way,
41:09
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now you're just blaming the
41:10
Speaker 1: movie and said that this is toxic. No, well, it's
41:12
Speaker 1: because we have trauma on heal trauma, Yeah, trauma with
41:17
Speaker 1: what was delivered. But cheating is a very traumatic thing.
41:20
Speaker 1: But cheating is just real. Let's get the record. Is
41:23
Speaker 1: toxic back been in a situation. It's the time when
41:29
Speaker 1: you might turn the radio off the radio. Listen to
41:33
Speaker 1: Daniel's explanation about the sime. Daniel's explanation, I understand it,
41:40
Speaker 1: but I can hear a woman saying that's some bullshit. No,
41:43
Speaker 1: they've been, they've been, they've been hearing it, and they've
41:46
Speaker 1: been receiving it. Shout out to the ladies out there.
41:49
Speaker 1: Let's get into the record. I want to introduce it.
41:50
Speaker 1: If we go, this is our new record. This is division.
41:53
Speaker 1: This is if I get caught right here Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 1: It's two minutes, thirty seconds. Good mo way