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- 0:01the upcoming samsung galaxy s27 ultra might go
- 0:06all exynos globally for their cpu choice oh boy
- 0:12so i've been seeing this story all day today
- 0:16and i'm waiting around midday just after lunch
- 0:20time to make this video because i wanted to read
- 0:23a few articles i wanted to get a little perspective
- 0:25i wanted to get my thoughts together on this
- 0:28because some stories i see I want to race to
- 0:32put it online, to upload my thoughts, to get
- 0:36it out there. But on this one, I wanted to do
- 0:40a little deep thought, a little deep thinking
- 0:42on this, because the reason why I did not race
- 0:45to upload this is because you got to wonder who's
- 0:51leaking this story, who's leaking the information,
- 0:54and why. Because... i'm not so sure this is entirely
- 1:00true is there some funny business going on let's
- 1:04take a deep dive let's talk and discuss about
- 1:06what's going on so there's a new report popping
- 1:10up all over line that says the s27 may get the
- 1:14exynos cpu because the new snapdragon 8 elite
- 1:19extreme gen 6 is overheating So Samsung is reportedly
- 1:26testing the Snapdragon 8 Elite Extreme Gen 6
- 1:30for the upcoming S27 Ultra. Now remember, we
- 1:34got news last week that Samsung was going to
- 1:38put this new Snapdragon CPU globally in the S27
- 1:42Ultra. They're also putting it... in the S27
- 1:47Pro. However, the S27 Pro looks like it's going
- 1:51to get a split CPU. Some S27 Pros are going to
- 1:54get the Exynos. Some are going to get the Snapdragon.
- 1:57Now, if you're in the United States, it's going
- 1:58to be getting the Snapdragon. And then the S27
- 2:02and S27 Plus are getting Exynos CPUs worldwide.
- 2:09but i know the main focus is on the ultra that's
- 2:11their most popular model so let's focus on that
- 2:14now initial performance testing have found that
- 2:19the processor in the s27 ultra with the snapdragon
- 2:238 elite extreme gen 6 exceeds acceptable temperature
- 2:29limits under sustained heavy workloads causing
- 2:33performance throttling performance throttling
- 2:38means the cpu it's like a car engine where if
- 2:42you rev up the rpms if you redline an engine
- 2:45well it generates a ton of heat and cpus are
- 2:50very similar you rev it up you redline it it
- 2:53generates a ton of heat and then thermal throttling
- 2:56kicks in where the onboard computer the memory
- 2:59says hey this thing's getting way too hot let's
- 3:02scale down their performance to generate less
- 3:05heat now when it scales down the performance
- 3:08you get less performance so it's not as strong
- 3:11at performing as a redlining cpu that can keep
- 3:17relatively cooler temperatures now the company
- 3:21is considering talking about samsung ditching
- 3:26the snapdragon in favor of the year of exynos
- 3:322700 Unless Qualcomm promptly addresses this
- 3:38issue. Thermal management is particularly important
- 3:41for flagship phones like the S27 Ultra because
- 3:45demanding games, advanced camera processing,
- 3:48on -device AI tasks, editing videos puts a lot
- 3:54of pressure on the CPU and the GPU, right? if
- 3:58the chip cannot maintain stable performance under
- 4:01these high load conditions it will affect the
- 4:06overall user experience of this device it's not
- 4:09going to perform as well you're going to get
- 4:11a lot of stuttering you're going to get a lot
- 4:12of buffering if you're a gamer you're going to
- 4:14lose frame rates so here check this out in this
- 4:18are in these articles it says samsung reportedly
- 4:20shared its concerns with qualcomm last month
- 4:25and requested improvements by mid -October. Well,
- 4:29guess what? We're in mid -October. Both companies
- 4:33are continuing to work on the issue, but the
- 4:36processor has yet to meet Samsung's reported
- 4:38thermal requirements. Now, if Qualcomm cannot
- 4:43resolve the problem in time, the Korean firm,
- 4:47Samsung, could go with the Exynos 2700 globally
- 4:51in the S27 Ultra. Now, switching to the in -house
- 4:56chip could give Samsung greater control over
- 4:59the processor supply and reduce its own reliance
- 5:01on Qualcomm. It would also help Samsung's semiconductor
- 5:05business. Not like they need any more help. Their
- 5:09numbers are astronomical. In fact, they hit record
- 5:12profits. And a little known fact is Samsung chip
- 5:17manufacturing department does not give any discounts
- 5:21to Samsung's mobile. department you would think
- 5:24samsung putting their own chip in there of course
- 5:27they want that right but they don't get any lower
- 5:30cost on their chips and or their memory than
- 5:34any other android manufacturer would it's kind
- 5:36of weird but that's just how it's always been
- 5:38now it would however provide a strong showcase
- 5:44for their new cpus i put new in quotations because
- 5:52Look, I don't really have to explain it. We all
- 5:54know the history of Exynos CPUs. They sucked.
- 5:57They have sucked, right? Now, I do think they've
- 6:01turned a corner on this new process, this heat
- 6:05bypass process or whatever it is, where they
- 6:08actually separate some of the chip and actually
- 6:10put in a heat pass block in there where they
- 6:13built this new Exynos 2700 from the ground up
- 6:16with the focus on heat. That's been their number
- 6:20one. uh issue in the past with xno cpus is they
- 6:25just get too hot and they the thermal throttling
- 6:28kicks in right that's why we say they suck they
- 6:31get hot and the performance just isn't there
- 6:34because they get too hot now we do have a statement
- 6:40from qualcomm employees so this just broke qualcomm
- 6:48executive don mcguire has dismissed claims that
- 6:53the snapdragon 80 lead extreme gen 6 overheats
- 6:56in the s27 ultra calling these claims 100 not
- 7:00accurate i knew i was waiting to make this video
- 7:06for you know some deep thought and what do you
- 7:10know qualcomm comes out and says this isn't true
- 7:13this is just flat out not true now it is interesting
- 7:16because it makes you wonder so real quick let's
- 7:20go back to the oneplus 15. do you remember when
- 7:26the one let's go this time last year when the
- 7:28oneplus 15 was getting ready to be released it
- 7:31had the all new it was one of the very first
- 7:33devices that was released with the snapdragon
- 7:36elite gen 5 right the the flagship cpu last year
- 7:42do you remember leading up to the oneplus 15
- 7:45launch all these creators are saying oh my god
- 7:48it's it my phone's getting hot it's overheating
- 7:51it seemed like every pre -launch like before
- 7:54regular people like you and i could get the phone
- 7:57the creators that got the device earlier they
- 7:59were all saying it it was overheating it got
- 8:01too hot and then i get the phone the one plus
- 8:0515 i'm like well i'll just i'll take a chance
- 8:07on it whatever no overheating at all in fact
- 8:10it never even got warm not even once ever since
- 8:13i've owned the phone cool as the other side of
- 8:16the pillow and made me wonder why the hell were
- 8:21they saying it got hot now one of two reasons
- 8:24could have very well been getting hot and they
- 8:27pushed updates out to you know tweak the thermal
- 8:31management on there so it doesn't get as hot
- 8:33or somebody paid them to say that i'm not a tin
- 8:40foil hat type of guy But I will put it out there.
- 8:44I have seen crazier stuff. Let's go back to this
- 8:47story. I wonder what's going on here. Is this
- 8:52the truth? How did this leak out? How did this
- 8:56information leak out? There was an article by
- 9:01a South Korean online publication that put this
- 9:05story out. Who's feeding that South Korean publication
- 9:08that information? is it put there to degrade
- 9:14qualcomm and their products is it there to make
- 9:21them look bad is it there to make samsung look
- 9:23bad uh not exactly sure and here's the thing
- 9:27here's another cat here's another thing i want
- 9:28you to think about qualcomm has a contract with
- 9:33samsung to supply and look each one of these
- 9:35contracts because look uh qualcomm has a contract
- 9:38with apple right that's why when this whole apple
- 9:42i Apple iPhone 18 Pro Max on AT &T issue came
- 9:47out. Everybody was like, well, why does the Pro
- 9:51Max in America have a Qualcomm modem and all
- 9:54the other devices around the world and in America
- 9:57have the new C2 modem? Well, that's because Qualcomm
- 9:59and Apple have a contract that, and again, each
- 10:04contract is different, but one of their devices,
- 10:07at least in America, flagship devices have to
- 10:09have that Qualcomm modem. present and going over
- 10:14to samsung they have a contract with qualcomm
- 10:16so let's say samsung does not put this qualcomm
- 10:20chip in the s27 ultra well where does that leave
- 10:25the samsung has to fulfill that agreement fulfill
- 10:28that contract so if samsung does not put the
- 10:31snapdragon cpu in the s27 ultra and i don't know
- 10:37the details of the contract i'm just simply throwing
- 10:40it out there just simply guessing from the way
- 10:43it was structured even dating back to yesterday
- 10:47in last week and last month it looked like it
- 10:50looked like to me my honest opinion is that that
- 10:54contract looked something like at least one of
- 10:58your flagship devices in the s lineup, meaning
- 11:01the S27 series, at least one of those devices
- 11:04needs to be launched and or sold with a flagship
- 11:10Qualcomm chip present. So that was going to be
- 11:15the S27 Ultra, right? Now, let's say this was
- 11:18true. This leak was true. How does Samsung still
- 11:22fulfill that contract? Are they going to breach
- 11:26the contract? Because those other devices are
- 11:29already spoken for. the s27 pro is said to have
- 11:34a qualcomm chip in the united states but exynos
- 11:37and other regions and that s27 and s27 plus we're
- 11:43already going to going to go with exynos 2700
- 11:46so if this new snapdragon chip overheats why
- 11:51would samsung put that in a smaller device in
- 11:54the s27 pro right it's a smaller device smaller
- 11:58internal area so it has less space less area
- 12:02to dissipate that heat so theoretically it would
- 12:06be even hotter in the s27 pro because it's a
- 12:09smaller device so if samsung didn't go with this
- 12:13snapdragon chip in the in the pro and the ultra
- 12:16how are they going to fulfill that contract now
- 12:20let's say that's true there is an option there
- 12:24is an option for samsung to put if they went
- 12:30with the exynos 2700 in the s27 ultra and they
- 12:36kicked the snapdragon to the curb on the ultra
- 12:39to fulfill that contract qualcomm samsung would
- 12:44have to put a qualcomm ship in the s27 pro now
- 12:47that extreme elite overheats that's what they're
- 12:50claiming so they wouldn't put that in the s27
- 12:53pro because theoretically you would get more
- 12:56hot because less space less internal space to
- 12:59dissipate that heat so there is an option Samsung
- 13:02could go with the water down flagship it's the
- 13:07Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 6 so it's not the extreme
- 13:12version it's just the regular Snapdragon 8 Elite
- 13:17Gen 6. there is that option on the table and
- 13:21honestly I think that is a viable option for
- 13:25the pro look that's just because it's not the
- 13:28extreme does not mean you need to look down upon
- 13:31that i personally would be okay with that look
- 13:35i've had the motorola signature with the watered
- 13:38down version of the snapdragon 8 gen 5 not the
- 13:42elite but the gen 5 i have no issues with it
- 13:46in fact it's been wonderful and i don't think
- 13:49look if you if you handed somebody an s27 pro
- 13:54and you handed them the snapdragon you handed
- 13:57them an s27 pro one had the snapdragon 8 elite
- 14:00extreme gen 6 and one had the snapdragon 8 elite
- 14:03gen 6 and you said here use these phones split
- 14:07time between them 50 50 you know holler back
- 14:10in a month come see me in 30 days and give me
- 14:13your experience i think if that person came back
- 14:15in 30 days they would probably forget which one
- 14:19is which right i'm honestly i don't think there's
- 14:22much of a difference now if you benchmark it
- 14:24sure you're going to see a difference but average
- 14:26daily use you're not going to see a difference
- 14:29now samsung could do that with the ultra but
- 14:35would that make it an ultra so what if samsung
- 14:37put the snapdragon 80 elite gen 6 in the s27
- 14:41ultra to fulfill their agreement terms their
- 14:45contractual terms with qualcomm instead of putting
- 14:49the snapdragon 80 lead extreme gen 6 because
- 14:52it's the extreme gen 6 that's overheating so
- 14:58this could go many different ways this could
- 15:01go many different ways and this is the kind of
- 15:04chess that now qualcomm's claiming this is not
- 15:09true and of course they're going to say that
- 15:10even even if this was true of course they're
- 15:13going to come out and say no no no don't look
- 15:17over here Fake news, lies, you know, they're
- 15:22going to dismantle and or dismiss those claims
- 15:26because that's their baby. That's their flagship
- 15:29CPU, the flagship product, right? Now, if you're
- 15:33wondering what's the difference between this
- 15:36Qualcomm chip that they're going to put in the
- 15:38S27 Ultra and the same Qualcomm chip that they're
- 15:41putting in the OnePlus 16. What's the difference?
- 15:45Or the Xiaomi 18 Pro Max? What's the difference?
- 15:48Well, you remember, Samsung has a custom version
- 15:52of the Qualcomm flagship chip. It's the 4 Galaxy.
- 15:56Sorry, I'm doing a lot of air quotes today. It's
- 15:59one of those days. I'll try to calm down on that.
- 16:02They have the 4 Galaxy chipset. Now, what is
- 16:07the 4 Galaxy chipset? What's the difference between
- 16:10a Samsung Qualcomm chip and a OnePlus? qualcomm
- 16:14chip well they essentially just overclock it
- 16:17that's it that's it all right they just turn
- 16:21to turn the power up a little bit more and it's
- 16:24just a little bit theoretically it may score
- 16:28you a couple more points on it on a benchmark
- 16:29but it really doesn't do much now what if they
- 16:33take out that for galley is that is that if if
- 16:38these claims are true if these cpus are overheating
- 16:41Is that what is causing the overheating? Because
- 16:44we haven't heard anything about overheating in
- 16:46the Xiaomi 18 Pro Max or the OnePlus 16 or these
- 16:49other devices. The devices running this Qualcomm
- 16:52chip are getting smaller and smaller by the year.
- 16:54And kind of in, I'm not going to lie, across
- 16:58my mind, I thought, what if Samsung wants this
- 17:03to happen? What if Samsung wants to show off
- 17:07their latest and greatest? exynos 2700 i'm actually
- 17:12interested in trying to find a device and use
- 17:15one with this cpu in it and of course the s27
- 17:17and s27 plus will have it in there so i guess
- 17:21theoretically you can go to t -mobile or at t
- 17:23or wherever you buy one you should have it i'm
- 17:26interested in using one but i wonder but that
- 17:30but those don't sell well the ultra is samsung's
- 17:33baby as far as that's their flagship product
- 17:37this is their night shining armor is the s27
- 17:40ultra the ultra series phone so trust me five
- 17:46years from now ten years from now all samsung
- 17:48all samsung galaxy phones the s 36 ultra that
- 17:53sounds crazy we'll be running exynos i'll put
- 17:58my youtube channel on that like and well i guess
- 18:02i shouldn't say that but trust me at some point
- 18:05in the future Samsung wants to run their Exynos
- 18:08CPUs, just like Google does Tensor, just like
- 18:11Apple does the Bionic chip, just like Xiaomi
- 18:15has the X -ring. They want to run their own chip.
- 18:19Part, I'm not going to lie, it did cross my mind.
- 18:21I was like, I wonder why this is coming out now.
- 18:25That's part of the reason why I waited a couple
- 18:27hours to make this video. I wanted to sit and
- 18:29think and marinate on this for a minute and kind
- 18:31of get my mind going. Because it was going a
- 18:33bunch of different ways. I could see this being
- 18:35true. I could see this being fake. I could see
- 18:37this being put out there by Samsung. Suddenly
- 18:40it wasn't put out there by Qualcomm, right? They're
- 18:43like, whoa, we're catching strays over here.
- 18:45What are y 'all talking about? Our CPUs don't
- 18:48overheat. Look at OnePlus 16. Perfect reviews.
- 18:51Look at the Xiaomi 18 Pro Max. Nothing happened
- 18:53over there. So I believe Qualcomm, honestly,
- 18:57which makes me wonder, did Samsung put this out?
- 19:02Did somebody internally from Samsung put this
- 19:03out? Are they really having problems? Or are
- 19:06they putting this out there trying to generate
- 19:09problems to give them an excuse to go with their
- 19:12Exynos 2700? What if this is some grand scheme
- 19:15to finagle their way into using their own CPU
- 19:19in this phone? You know what I'm saying? I can
- 19:22see it going either way. It just makes me wonder
- 19:24what's going on. I have no clue, but this is
- 19:27getting really juicy. i guess we'll have to wait
- 19:33and see but that's what they're claiming that
- 19:35um and look it's coming down it's it's literally
- 19:38coming down to the last second because if these
- 19:42claims are true samsung is sweating bullets because
- 19:46i mean look they can tone it down a bit right
- 19:50like they can like ramp the if the claim when
- 19:54i when i told you about the one plus 15 story
- 19:56when those were overheating well by the time
- 19:59i got mine from the content creators reviewing
- 20:02theirs before launch to when i got mine that's
- 20:05maybe a three week or four week period it was
- 20:09fine well guess what there was a day one update
- 20:11when i pulled it out of the box with the oneplus
- 20:1315 and i could have tweaked the thermal management
- 20:16on that cpu right like this is done all the time
- 20:19remember that story when the iphone was it the
- 20:2215 or 16 series got really really hot at launch
- 20:25and it was a huge story well guess what they
- 20:27did they pushed an update and fixed it all right
- 20:30they tweaked the thermal management on the cpu
- 20:32they can ramp it down so that's why i'm i'm i'm
- 20:36looking at this story taking it with a little
- 20:38bit of grain of salt like something doesn't sound
- 20:41right here because they tweak these things all
- 20:45the time like why is this coming out now like
- 20:49why haven't they been able to fix this already
- 20:52or if that's the case because they fix stuff
- 20:56like this all the time like like like this is
- 20:58part of the process into making a smartphone
- 21:01right is um tweaking stuff so I'm kind of looking
- 21:07at this story like I don't really know what to
- 21:10do with this or where this is going or how true
- 21:12this is or who leaked it but it is getting down
- 21:16to crunch time because these phones are said
- 21:18they they had planned to move forward the release
- 21:22date of this s27 ultra or this s27 series so
- 21:25you know how lat traditionally it's been in january
- 21:27they released them in february last year was
- 21:30a little bit of delay they announced them in
- 21:32february february released them in march well
- 21:35this year they were planning on going back to
- 21:36their old schedule announcing in january releasing
- 21:39in february but if they want to stay on that
- 21:42schedule production has to start next month in
- 21:46november astus remember they're producing 12
- 21:50million of these i mean this is a huge like we're
- 21:55right on the cusp of hey samsung's like hey we
- 21:58got to make a decision by next week like what
- 22:01are we doing here that's kind of like what the
- 22:03story or and or some of these articles hinted
- 22:05at uh in a nicer way than what i put it but you
- 22:09know me i'm i'm on your level here i'm not a
- 22:12uh online public well i guess technically i am
- 22:14but whatever it's getting it's coming down to
- 22:18nut cutting time where look We got to send this
- 22:22off to the manufacturing plants by in nine days.
- 22:27What's up, Qualcomm? And that's why when that
- 22:30story kind of released it like that, I was like,
- 22:33I don't know what to do with this. But it is
- 22:38coming down to the last minute. So regardless
- 22:41if they can't figure this out or they have to
- 22:45make an immediate emergency meeting and, you
- 22:50know. maneuver a bunch of exynos 2700s to these
- 22:54manufacturing plants and putting them in this
- 22:56s27 ultra boy what a way to introduce your exynos
- 23:00cpu you want to talk about sink or swim here's
- 23:04your time go throw you in the pool and see if
- 23:07you you can swim i guess that's not out of the
- 23:11realm of possibilities to be honest with you
- 23:13i just don't know where this is coming from and
- 23:16again i don't want to repeat myself but something's
- 23:19kind of fishy with this story certainly not coming
- 23:22from qualcomm uh but it does smell a little fishy
- 23:26i'm not gonna lie it does smell a little fishy
- 23:31so just be prepared i'm not gonna say uh this
- 23:35is nonsense i'm not gonna say y 'all they're
- 23:38gonna go with with qualcomm there's something
- 23:40behind this and i don't know what but i'm gonna
- 23:43keep my eye on this story subscribe to esim studios
- 23:46because i'm going to keep you updated on this
- 23:48i'm going to keep a very very close eye on this
- 23:51and i know i do have a bunch of samsung users
- 23:54on this channel including myself i'm going to
- 23:56be interested in this to see where they go with
- 23:58this and to be honest with you i would i prefer
- 24:02qualcomm over exynos that's just me but let's
- 24:07say they did go with exynos and let's say it
- 24:12was a last -ditch effort. They can't work it
- 24:15out with Qualcomm. They got to make some tweaks
- 24:16behind the scenes, and they put the Exynos 2700
- 24:19in this S27 Ultra. Look, if it performs well,
- 24:25you're not going to hear any complaints from
- 24:27me. Honestly, I don't have a problem with Exynos
- 24:31if it performs like the Qualcomm variant, meaning
- 24:36if it's right up there with... the very best
- 24:38qualcomm chip it performs well it does not overheat
- 24:41i'll use it i don't have a problem i just always
- 24:46on xmos because they've used they they have a
- 24:49history of sucking but if they turn it around
- 24:52more power to samsung i don't have a problem
- 24:55with that so we'll have to now could go the other
- 25:00way what if they put the xms 2700 in this s27
- 25:03ultra and it blows oh we are gonna tear them
- 25:07a new pause We are going to roast them forever.
- 25:14So Samsung knows this. They're smart. Samsung
- 25:17knows this, right? They watch these channels.
- 25:20They know their own history. So they're on thin
- 25:24ice. Oh, this is getting good. Stay tuned. I'm
- 25:30going to cover lots of this for you. Peace.