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Roster Projection 2.0 - Names To Watch. · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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Speaker 1: He Welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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Speaker 1: the Battle Territory Network Tigers podcast. I'm Keirience Steckley with
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Speaker 1: me as always a man who has brought to you
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Speaker 1: courtesy of the Red, White and Blue.
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Speaker 2: He is Cody Steven Eggan. How you doing.
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Speaker 3: I didn't think we were going to be doing Toby
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Speaker 3: Keith references, but I guess the USA one gold.
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Speaker 4: So patriotism is back in style. Yeah, clear on that.
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Speaker 3: Kieran's rocking a Red, White and Blue Tigers hat, So yeah,
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Speaker 3: go USA gold medal?
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Speaker 5: Take it?
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic up next. Just saying, all right, so
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Speaker 1: we got, you know, gold medal. Kind of important. First
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Speaker 1: spring training games, very important. We are recording this Sunday
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Speaker 1: night after the Tigers are winless for the weekend, twenty
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Speaker 1: to three, lost to the New York Yankees and a
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Speaker 1: four to four tie with the Baltimore Orioles.
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Speaker 2: So I ask.
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Speaker 1: You, what was the most important thing that happened in
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Speaker 1: these games?
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Speaker 2: Cody?
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm still thinking about how you started this
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Speaker 3: with a Toby Keith reference. That's such a terrible song,
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Speaker 3: like the message aside, just like it's not a good
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Speaker 3: good musically. I used to sit right behind Toby Keith
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Speaker 3: at Oklahoma basketball games. He's the richest person in the building,
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Speaker 3: and he'd be wearing like a Camo beanie, which I
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Speaker 3: guess you kind of have to respect anyway, Yes, spring
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Speaker 3: training baseball.
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Speaker 4: That first game was rough.
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Speaker 3: Man in the words of AJ Hinch, like everyone walked
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Speaker 3: at least one batter except Bert Smith, so.
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Speaker 4: That was kind of tough one to sit through.
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Speaker 3: But Kevin McGonagall had himself a nice single that was
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Speaker 3: kind of the only real highlight of the Tigers Grapefruit
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Speaker 3: League opener. I guess like timern Loronzo made a nice play,
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Speaker 3: Corey Jolks did hit a home run, and then we
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Speaker 3: had a little more entertainment, although most of it came
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Speaker 3: in the late innings. In Game two, Jack Flaherty only
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Speaker 3: through one inning. I just tried not to read too
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Speaker 3: much into any of this, especially this early in camp,
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Speaker 3: Like guys are still ramping up, guys are still figuring
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Speaker 3: things out, guys are seeing live pitching for the first
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Speaker 3: time in a long time.
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Speaker 4: So sometimes there are small insights.
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Speaker 3: You can glean, But I don't know that I have
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Speaker 3: any grand takeaways.
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Speaker 4: From the first couple of spring training games.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, here's the thing I think, if you're just
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Speaker 1: looking for something fun, which is kind of what my
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Speaker 1: mindset is in these, especially these early spring training games,
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Speaker 1: like not full lineups, obviously far from what opening day
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Speaker 1: will be, just look for something fun. The McGonagall base
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Speaker 1: hit to left one hundred mile an hour pitch.
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Speaker 2: That was fun. That was a fun little moment.
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Speaker 1: And then him kind of doing his you know, raised
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Speaker 1: by Tigers base running to to get a run home
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Speaker 1: like that's fun. And then Max Clark, well, go first
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Speaker 1: to third, though I don't think Joey was actually waving them,
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Speaker 1: but he's still about that after the game.
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Speaker 4: Actually, you know he's supposed to go first, third round here.
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well he's still kitting, he's still learning, all right.
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Speaker 1: And then Max Clark comes up and you know, a
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Speaker 1: clutch situation for a spring training game, gets a base,
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Speaker 1: it delivers the game time run awful lefty and you
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Speaker 1: know goes apo as well.
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Speaker 2: So so like real.
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Speaker 3: Quick, since those are the kids everyone wants to know about, like,
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Speaker 3: I'll just say they man, they've been really impressive, both
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Speaker 3: baseball wise and and just how they carry themselves working
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Speaker 3: on a big McGonagall story. Not sure when that's going
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Speaker 3: to be posted, but soon that I'll tell a little
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Speaker 3: more about him and kind of his upbringing. And I
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Speaker 3: think everyone you know, Max clerk is is so out
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Speaker 3: there and well known, but actually being around them, talking
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Speaker 3: to Max a couple of times already, this spring.
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Speaker 4: Like, man, these guys are pretty mature. You know.
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Speaker 3: Everyone sees Max and the bling and the flash, but
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Speaker 3: it's not like he's doing TikTok dances in the clubhouse
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Speaker 3: like he's He's got a pretty good head on his shoulders.
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Speaker 4: He seems to be meshing with this group.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 3: I know Kevin went golfing with with Riley and Torque
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Speaker 3: the other day. I think they have kind of the
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Speaker 3: right blend of poise and confidence and like they carry themselves.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to say like better than Riley and
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Speaker 3: Torque did at a similar point in their career, but
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Speaker 3: I do think there may be a little more equipped
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Speaker 3: for like when things get hard. I think they were
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Speaker 3: going to be able to handle it well, both mentally,
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Speaker 3: both in terms of how they're acting in front of
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Speaker 3: the cameras. I've just been impressed with both of their demeanors.
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Speaker 3: The more I'm around them, and obviously there's some pretty
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Speaker 3: good baseball players as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, in terms of things that don't matter,
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Speaker 1: but kind of fun to see and I know other
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Speaker 1: guys you know these numbers in spring training and listening
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Speaker 1: to Dan Dickerson, by the way, shat love listening to
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Speaker 1: Dan Dickerson again called baseball game. It felt good to
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Speaker 1: do that this weekend, all the numbers the same, different
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Speaker 1: guys whatever, But it's kind of cool that in this
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Speaker 1: like kind of retro forward uniform that the Tigers wore.
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Speaker 1: You know this this weekend, Max Clark is where a
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Speaker 1: number eighty four.
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Speaker 2: I got kick out of that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how intentional that was, but I did
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Speaker 1: get a kick out of that.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: Actually, speaking of the uniforms, Cody like, this is our
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Speaker 1: first time like literally seeing them in action.
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Speaker 2: You know, how do they look?
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Speaker 1: Kind of I know the orange on orange thing was
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Speaker 1: kind of funny for social media, but but how.
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Speaker 5: Did an orange man the Tigers debut the orange jerseys, Like, oh,
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Speaker 5: that wasn't great. No one thought that the Orioles might
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Speaker 5: actually also show up wearing orange.
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Speaker 3: You couldn't work that out or maybe delay the debut
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Speaker 3: of the orange per day. Jack Flaherty, not usually wanted
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Speaker 3: to make jokes, even made a joke about that after
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Speaker 3: the game. So look, no, I think the Jerseys look sharp.
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Speaker 3: I just there's a lot of orange on the field
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Speaker 3: that wasn't the best for the unveiling. The Blues looked
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Speaker 3: looked actually pretty nice against the Yankees.
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Speaker 4: So no, they're both okay. Hopefully that's the last orange
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Speaker 4: on orange we will see though.
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Speaker 1: Well, something that we finally got a glimpse of that
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Speaker 1: that were you know, IM going to see throughout the
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Speaker 1: spring training into the season is the challenge system with
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Speaker 1: the ABS and and and and Admittedly, like we could
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Speaker 1: have talked about this prior many times, could have talked
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Speaker 1: with AJ when he was on the podcast, but like
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Speaker 1: I just kind of it was like the back burner
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Speaker 1: of my mind. But now the games are happening, I'm
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Speaker 1: kind of seeing it in action, like it like what
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Speaker 1: what's your interpretation of of of how the ABS system is,
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Speaker 1: and then like how like fluid it is, and.
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Speaker 2: Like all that stuff.
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Speaker 1: Having seen it like a couple of times, including once
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Speaker 1: in the same at BET or twice in the same at.
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Speaker 3: BET, Yeah, I like it, and I don't know if
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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess there was no broadcast Sunday. I
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Speaker 3: don't know if they talked about this on the radio,
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Speaker 3: but Samuel Bassalo from the The Orioles challenge to strike
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Speaker 3: out when Las Diez's call was upheld, and Las kind
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Speaker 3: of stared down Samuel, and you know after kind of
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Speaker 3: like half playfully afterwards. So I got to kick out
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Speaker 3: of that and give inject some ump show into the game,
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Speaker 3: which probably won't be great in the regular season, but
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Speaker 3: it was funny here in spring training.
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Speaker 4: No, I like the ABS.
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Speaker 3: I guess I'm you know, I've allowed to respect for
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Speaker 3: Dan Dickerson, and we go back and forth on this.
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Speaker 3: Dan is like kind of pretty anti ABS and talks
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Speaker 3: about it's changing things for umpires and it's going to
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Speaker 3: raise the walk rate and we should keep an eye
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Speaker 3: on the walk rate and what that means for the game.
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Speaker 3: But I'm pretty pro ABS. It's working so far. The
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Speaker 3: challenge system is a nice happy medium. Me personally, I
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Speaker 3: still think if we have the technology to get every
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Speaker 3: call right, maybe we should just use it for every call.
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Speaker 3: But right now it's probably a nice happy medium. Seems
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Speaker 3: to be integrating well. It's good to be able to
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Speaker 3: test it and get a little more used to it
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Speaker 3: in spring training. I think the average number of challenges
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Speaker 3: per game once we get in the regular season will
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Speaker 3: probably be like more more like three or four. It's
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Speaker 3: not going to hold up the pace of play, I
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Speaker 3: don't think, so. I am all for it at this point.
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Speaker 1: Has Aja or any members of the Tigers like talked
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Speaker 1: about it or like the like sort of like the
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Speaker 1: team rules on it, or or are they just kind
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Speaker 1: of letting the guys do it and then they'll probably
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Speaker 1: kind of square in on a philosophy later.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been talked about a lot.
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Speaker 3: I don't know exactly if they have squared on a
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Speaker 3: philosophy yet or what they're thinking, because I do think
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Speaker 3: that's one of the wrinkles is you know, if you
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Speaker 3: have two challenges.
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Speaker 4: When are you going to use those challenges?
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Speaker 3: It would not be wise to waste a challenge on
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Speaker 3: a one to Ozero pitch in the second inning with
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Speaker 3: no runners on base, for example. So are you saving
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Speaker 3: it for a leverage moment? Are you basing it off
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Speaker 3: of players you trust the most? If you have Juan
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Speaker 3: Soto on your team, does he get to use a
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Speaker 3: challenge whenever, and some rookie who chases a lot never
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Speaker 3: get to challenge like It seems like different teams will
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Speaker 3: probably treat that differently. I think I've seen at least
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Speaker 3: one manager, maybe it was Dave Roberts to talk about.
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Speaker 3: You know, it might be based kind of on player
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Speaker 3: knowing the Tigers, I wouldn't be shocked if they try
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Speaker 3: to make it more about game situation. But it's also
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Speaker 3: kind of an emotional thing. If a hitter thinks he
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Speaker 3: got robbed of a call and he instinctively just touches
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Speaker 3: his head, you know, that might be hard.
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Speaker 4: To resist if you're a player, or a pitcher or
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Speaker 4: a catcher.
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Speaker 3: So I think some of that stuff will will have
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Speaker 3: to be worked out a little bit more, and we'll see,
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Speaker 3: you know, if.
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Speaker 4: The Tigers do adopt some sort of set philosophy.
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Speaker 1: All right, we are going to talk about more set philosophies,
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Speaker 1: including a public appearance by Tiger's owner Christopher Illich.
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Speaker 1: All right, coming back here as we reference the Tigers
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Speaker 1: had you know these games this weekend broadcast via the
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Speaker 1: radio and Dan and Dan.
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Speaker 2: That's almost said Dombrowski.
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Speaker 1: Diggerson and feature a lot of dance, and Chris Ilich
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Speaker 1: made appearance on Sunday's broadcast.
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Speaker 2: He was there for a full inning and and you know,
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Speaker 2: had some interesting things to say.
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Speaker 1: Nothing like groundbreaking, uh, but but from my perspective, kind
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Speaker 1: of interesting that like company, the company line was towed
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Speaker 1: by even the guy at the very top.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: So Scott Harris has talked for years about, you know,
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Speaker 1: building up the organization, you know, things behind the scenes, infrastructure, analytics, technology,
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. That's essentially what what Chris said, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, when he was talking with Dan and Dan
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Speaker 1: and then also probably the most interesting thing, the most
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Speaker 1: interesting thing was he said that the idea of signing
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Speaker 1: from Bervaldez uh was broached to him by Scott Harris
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the off season. And then there's
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Speaker 1: a little teas in there about as the season off
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Speaker 1: season progressed, you know, the idea he Chris claims it
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Speaker 1: was his idea, kind of tongue in cheekly to sign
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Speaker 1: from ber and Justin Verlander. And of course that's obviously
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Speaker 1: how it ended up working out. So nothing groundbreaking, but
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Speaker 1: like I would say, the more interesting parts of it
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Speaker 1: is that He talked about the team being in position
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Speaker 1: to spend, which again, it's something that Scott Harris has
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Speaker 1: said over and over and over again, and we got
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Speaker 1: an example of it this offseason after back to back
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Speaker 1: playoff burst. But Chris saying that like Fromber was an
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Speaker 1: early offseason idea was probably the most interesting thing of
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Speaker 1: the bullet That was interesting.
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Speaker 4: And the scene he painted, you know, he said.
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Speaker 3: Scott Harris was mid presentation about from Bervaldez sounded like
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Speaker 3: maybe they had already discussed justin Erlander, and Chris made
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Speaker 3: it sound as though he kind of interjected and said,
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Speaker 3: what if we just signed them both? And Scott kind
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Speaker 3: of said, hold up, let me finish. That's where I
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Speaker 3: was going. So that was an interesting nugget. I do
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Speaker 3: wonder if that's like how that actually went down. I
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Speaker 3: do also wonder like if it was more like sure,
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Speaker 3: I'll pony up and pay Fromber, maybe we should go
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Speaker 3: get JV two because it addition to the fact he
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Speaker 3: can pitch, that's gonna boost some gate revenues and some
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Speaker 3: merch sales.
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Speaker 4: I already saw some Verlander T shirts. Ver Legend shirts
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Speaker 4: are for sale in England.
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Speaker 3: Uh, So I don't know if that, you know, I
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Speaker 3: would love the full accounting of how all that went down.
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Speaker 3: But certainly interesting, you know. He Chris Solich talked about
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Speaker 3: sitting with a minor league nutritionist and she said, you know,
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Speaker 3: people are other teams are asking me like, what are
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Speaker 3: you guys doing?
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Speaker 4: How are your players getting so big and so strong?
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Speaker 3: And Chris said, well, I hope you didn't tell them,
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Speaker 3: which was which.
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Speaker 4: Was kind of funny.
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Speaker 3: So a lot of talk of the infrastructure. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 3: all fine and good again. Chris Olich popularity rating probably
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Speaker 3: the highest bit it's been in a long time. He
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Speaker 3: spent he invested on this team and.
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Speaker 4: Does it certainly deserve props for doing so. I did
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Speaker 4: come away wondering, like, what what did he say about Schooble?
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Speaker 3: What did what did he say about the about like
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Speaker 3: if they'll pay the luxury tax?
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Speaker 4: No, like if he supports a salary cap.
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Speaker 2: Or anything like that.
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Speaker 3: Oh wait, he didn't actually talk to actual journalists. He
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Speaker 3: did an interview with team sponsored media. Tigers Beat collectively
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Speaker 3: inquired I believe twice if Chris Zilich would talk to reporters.
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Speaker 3: He normally doesn't. But you know what that says prerogative.
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Speaker 3: That's fine. Instead of guying in no, we were told
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Speaker 3: twice once maybe in the second time, we were told
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Speaker 3: he will endeavor to do it tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: We will endeavor to do it tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: Chrisilitch did not address actual reporters, So anything beyond like
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Speaker 3: talking about how great their infrastructure is, we will not
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Speaker 3: know what he thinks about that.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, the I will say, there should be no
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Speaker 1: you know, he's the owner, so like like there's a
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Speaker 1: certain responsibility that comes with that being like you know,
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Speaker 1: the public face and the number one guy of an
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Speaker 1: organization or in his case, two organizations. Uh, if there's
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Speaker 1: any concern about his ability to speak on the team,
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Speaker 1: like I thought, he conducted like an interesting interview, like
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Speaker 1: like he answered you know, the questions well, like again,
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Speaker 1: it's not like he was being pressed, but he answered
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Speaker 1: the questions.
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Speaker 2: Well, he was able to paint a picture. Well. So
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Speaker 2: the reason I bring that up is.
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Speaker 1: That I do believe he is fully capable of answering
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Speaker 1: the questions that you laid out there, Cody, and and
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Speaker 1: and by the way, like there are like everyone says
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Speaker 1: like there are two people that can I guess maybe
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Speaker 1: three that can decide whether this where the school situation goes.
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Speaker 1: Christopher Illich is one of them, right, So, so like that,
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Speaker 1: you know, there's ways to do this. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: from a pr standpoint, you talked about early in camp,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to talk about it again. Uh So,
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Speaker 1: like there there are ways to do that. But in
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Speaker 1: terms of this radio interview specifically, I thought he painted
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Speaker 1: a good picture.
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Speaker 2: Like it was.
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Speaker 1: I've listened to these throughout the years. This was definitely
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Speaker 1: the best one he's done. And it probably is not
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Speaker 1: a coincidence that coincides with the most complete? Is that
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Speaker 1: a good way to say it? Most complete, best whatever?
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Speaker 1: Like roster he's had since he's you know, been head
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Speaker 1: honcho of the Tigers.
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Speaker 3: That does help make the interviews more interesting when you
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Speaker 3: got some good stuff to talk about, even if it
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Speaker 3: is just touting the positive it is is that like
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Speaker 3: the Verlander from or anecdote it is you know, it's.
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Speaker 4: More like, oh okay, that's interesting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So we'll see if if these requests come to fruition,
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Speaker 1: and if they do, we will talk about them here
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Speaker 1: on this podcast. All right, Before we get to the
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Speaker 1: roster projection, Cody, I did want to spend a couple
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Speaker 1: of minutes on Kerry Carpenter because you know, nothing groundbreaking.
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Speaker 1: We all know how dangerous he is, but it seems
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Speaker 1: like when we talk about him, when you guys ride
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Speaker 1: about him, even Dan Diggers and on the radio today,
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Speaker 1: like talking about Carry Carpenter, there's that there is a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a yeah. But with him, with the
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Speaker 1: with the injuries, and and last year it was very
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Speaker 1: apparent that the lower body was betraying him a little bit.
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Speaker 1: He he just couldn't go one hundred percent when he
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Speaker 1: wasn't in the box a lot of times like that's
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Speaker 1: that's like a parent, and everyone kind of knew why.
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Speaker 1: But you recently talked with him and and and he
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Speaker 1: shed a little bit more light on on the situation.
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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of curious, a, how is Carry Carpenter?
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Speaker 2: And then be like, I.
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Speaker 1: Don't know what you do and maybe maybe he hopefully
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Speaker 1: he has an answer, but I don't know what you
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Speaker 1: do with these kind of soft tissue injuries to try to, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, prepare for them to not be as much
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Speaker 1: of a factor in an upcoming season. So I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you know any any any light on that,
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Speaker 1: But how is Carrie.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think Carr's doing well. I think carry feels
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Speaker 3: like he's in a good place. I think he had
17:58
Speaker 3: a good offseason. I think he came into camping in
18:01
Speaker 3: good shape.
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Speaker 4: You know.
18:02
Speaker 3: Kind of the the headlining thing was was like talking
18:11
Speaker 3: to him, he we all know he had a hamstring injury,
18:14
Speaker 3: and he played through a hamstring injury, and there were times.
18:17
Speaker 4: Last year I was like, why is he not going
18:19
Speaker 4: on the IL if he can't run? There was a
18:22
Speaker 4: time he tweaked it. But the kind of the.
18:24
Speaker 3: Revelation was like he said, it was four different pulls.
18:27
Speaker 3: It wasn't like he pulled it and it lingered. He
18:30
Speaker 3: pulled it, and he pulled it again, and he pulled again.
18:33
Speaker 3: So it wasn't healing, not because it was just still sore.
18:36
Speaker 3: He was continuously pulling it. The two in the middle
18:39
Speaker 3: were diagnosed as Grade one hamstring strains, So that to
18:45
Speaker 3: me certainly stands out as interesting. Maybe not a great sign,
18:49
Speaker 3: but he did change up his offseason workouts.
18:51
Speaker 4: A little bit.
18:52
Speaker 3: It's interesting how everything has a cause and effect in baseball.
18:56
Speaker 3: Like bo Brisky was talking about, he hurt his ankle,
18:59
Speaker 3: which kind of made him alterate his mechanics, which he
19:02
Speaker 3: wonders if led to his flexert and injury. Carrie like
19:06
Speaker 3: he was lifting heavy weights, doing heavy squats, trying to
19:09
Speaker 3: get stronger.
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Speaker 4: He heard his back. He changed up some stuff there.
19:12
Speaker 4: He wonders if.
19:12
Speaker 3: That hurt his core or his lower half, which led
19:15
Speaker 3: to him continuously pulling the hamstring.
19:18
Speaker 4: So that all kind of factors in right.
19:22
Speaker 3: Certainly, we hope he doesn't pull any more hamstrings this
19:25
Speaker 3: coming year, and I do think that gets to the
19:28
Speaker 3: center of the conversation carry Carpenter, when healthy can be
19:31
Speaker 3: a really good player.
19:32
Speaker 4: His walk rate cratered last year. I would argue that.
19:35
Speaker 3: Was probably related to the injuries. He felt it he
19:38
Speaker 3: didn't have as much power. He's just kind of started
19:40
Speaker 3: getting over aggressive, started chasing more. So you want to
19:43
Speaker 3: see Kerry walk a little bit more this year, and he.
19:46
Speaker 4: Might just do that.
19:47
Speaker 3: It might work in concert with him staying healthy. And
19:52
Speaker 3: so we'll see if his changes were enough to fend
19:54
Speaker 3: off more hamstring injuries and if he can find off
19:56
Speaker 3: other injuries as well. That's really just a big question.
20:00
Speaker 3: Often can he be on the field, how often can
20:02
Speaker 3: he play in the outfield, and does that impact his
20:05
Speaker 3: availability overall.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it's simple, but you you know, you get
20:11
Speaker 1: It's another example of you know, every motion in baseball
20:15
Speaker 1: is a full body motion in some regard, and so
20:18
Speaker 1: if one thing is deficient, there's gonna be some compensation
20:22
Speaker 1: that happens elsewhere. And again it's it seems simple, but
20:25
Speaker 1: you don't. No one talks about it that way until
20:27
Speaker 1: the past couple of years with some of the biomechanics
20:30
Speaker 1: stuff that you know that has been injected into the game.
20:34
Speaker 1: So another example there. So we'll have to see a
20:36
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20:37
Speaker 2: A dangerous carry carpenter, that is for sure.
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21:53
Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, Cody, you had on Sunday
21:56
Speaker 1: a roster projection, and you know, I was like, okay,
22:00
Speaker 1: I'll go through this and be like, all right, I
22:02
Speaker 1: don't know about this. I don't know about that.
22:04
Speaker 2: It's pretty on the nose with how I would do it.
22:07
Speaker 1: And I think that speaks more than anything else to
22:11
Speaker 1: the fact that this roster seems relatively set with a
22:15
Speaker 1: couple obvious like, you know, could this happen, then what
22:19
Speaker 1: would be the ripple effect? Obviously Mcgonaga will be a
22:21
Speaker 1: big piece of that. I don't want to spoil everything
22:24
Speaker 1: about this roster projection. I want people to go read
22:26
Speaker 1: it and read your reasoning. But like, was there any
22:30
Speaker 1: faction of this roster projection that you spent more time on,
22:35
Speaker 1: struggled with, went back and forth, like, you know, take
22:38
Speaker 1: us through your exercise here.
22:39
Speaker 2: I guess.
22:41
Speaker 3: These are easier than they have been at a lot
22:43
Speaker 3: of times. Again, I think when I sat down to
22:46
Speaker 3: do a roster projection, the whole, the whole kind of
22:50
Speaker 3: theme of this was.
22:51
Speaker 4: Like, what's that.
22:52
Speaker 3: There's a quote in literature like the only plot, there's
22:55
Speaker 3: only one plot. Things are not as they seem, And
22:58
Speaker 3: I wonder if that's the case for the Tigers, because
23:00
Speaker 3: you look at this from the outside and be like,
23:02
Speaker 3: all thirteen position players are set, and your rotation is set,
23:05
Speaker 3: and maybe a couple things are up for grabs in
23:07
Speaker 3: the bullpen. So by the nature, like I guess bullpen
23:10
Speaker 3: was probably the hardest decision, even if it's not the
23:13
Speaker 3: sexiest part of the roster. A more interesting conversation maybe,
23:18
Speaker 3: like are things as simple as they seem? Because let's
23:21
Speaker 3: look at our position players. It looks sorry that I
23:25
Speaker 3: if you're watching YouTube, Riley Green is left handed, and
23:28
Speaker 3: I left that off of here, right, great apologies if
23:30
Speaker 3: anyone is grieved by that. These are thirteen guys who
23:34
Speaker 3: are on your team last year. This is pretty much
23:36
Speaker 3: how you ended the season, and it's.
23:39
Speaker 4: Pretty good, right.
23:41
Speaker 3: One thing that probably hasn't been talked about enough, the
23:44
Speaker 3: Tigers right now would break camp with.
23:48
Speaker 4: Basically six outfielders.
23:49
Speaker 3: Riley Green, Parker, Metto's, Kerry Carpenter, Winsel Perez, Jami Jones,
23:53
Speaker 3: Matt Vierling is playing primarily outfield in this camp as well,
23:57
Speaker 3: not to mention Hovey Bias who's gonna play a lot center,
24:00
Speaker 3: Zach McKinstry, who appeared in a lot of games in
24:02
Speaker 3: the outfield. They are pretty heavily tilted outfield over infield,
24:08
Speaker 3: and it's worth wondering, like, are they actually going to
24:12
Speaker 3: break camp that way? And I pointed out, like, is
24:15
Speaker 3: Jamai Jones vulnerable despite crushing left handed pitching last season? Like,
24:24
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that, but I think
24:25
Speaker 3: the short list of guys who could be most vulnerable,
24:28
Speaker 3: jamais on it now. Jami does not have options. He
24:31
Speaker 3: would have to be DFA. So if they wanted to
24:34
Speaker 3: keep him, would they option a Winsle, Perez or a
24:38
Speaker 3: Matt Vierling. Winsle obviously great and switch hit are very valuable.
24:43
Speaker 3: Vierling when he's healthy, when he's playing, he's good. We
24:45
Speaker 3: just haven't seen.
24:46
Speaker 4: Him in a while.
24:47
Speaker 3: This conversation could be as simple as, if you want
24:50
Speaker 3: Kevin McGonagall in the opening day roster, someone has to go.
24:53
Speaker 3: Who is that gonna be, I'm not sure, Or if
24:56
Speaker 3: they want to balance things a little bit and bring
24:58
Speaker 3: up an infield or whether that how you lee Max Anderson,
25:03
Speaker 3: that Trey Cruz, who again also is gonna play a
25:06
Speaker 3: lot of outfield, even Eduardo Valencia, a right handed bat.
25:10
Speaker 3: I think the Tigers might have some interest in carrying
25:13
Speaker 3: an infielder who hits right handed. But to do that,
25:16
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to take off a fairly established player,
25:20
Speaker 3: which is kind of an interesting concept and something certainly
25:24
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on in this camp.
25:26
Speaker 4: I'm looking at this talking.
25:28
Speaker 3: I talked to some people about it one Sunday, and
25:30
Speaker 3: I almost thought, like, would there be room to bring
25:33
Speaker 3: in someone else like a right handed Zach McKinstry type
25:37
Speaker 3: move from a couple of years ago might not be
25:39
Speaker 3: out of the question. Also, the usual caveat applies, We're
25:42
Speaker 3: one injury away from this whole conversation looking a lot
25:45
Speaker 3: lot different.
25:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jamai Jones thing is like, you just have
25:55
Speaker 1: to come at it. In my opinion, you have to
25:57
Speaker 1: come at it from a realistic approach.
26:00
Speaker 2: This is last season.
26:01
Speaker 1: This was a guy that was vital to the way
26:05
Speaker 1: that you being aj the Tigers whatever, want to play baseball,
26:09
Speaker 1: which is matchup dependent, situation dependent. Here's a guy who
26:13
Speaker 1: had a track record over most of the season of
26:15
Speaker 1: crushing left handed pitching. All right, so that is a
26:18
Speaker 1: skill that you obviously highly value. However, he happens to
26:24
Speaker 1: be one of your more limited in terms of what
26:27
Speaker 1: you trust skill sets on the on the team and
26:30
Speaker 1: among roster options. Right, my mind is that as long
26:34
Speaker 1: as he continues to crush lefties, I feel like he
26:37
Speaker 1: should have a spot on this roster because those situations
26:41
Speaker 1: are gonna come up more frequently than if you have
26:45
Speaker 1: to spot him in the outfield for an ending, like
26:48
Speaker 1: you know, put him in right field and just like
26:51
Speaker 1: hope that it's not gonna be a crucial situation where
26:53
Speaker 1: maybe he misplays something. Obviously, he's a professional ball player.
26:56
Speaker 1: He can play defense, we saw other professional ball players
26:58
Speaker 1: not play defense this weekend. All right, but like liked
27:03
Speaker 1: by Jones, upside is.
27:04
Speaker 2: High enough, especially when you got rid of like.
27:06
Speaker 1: Justin Henry Malloy in the offseason and you and I like,
27:10
Speaker 1: I just think that is a valuable thing to have.
27:14
Speaker 1: But also if he struggles, the backside of that is
27:19
Speaker 1: now you don't now that roster spot is being held
27:22
Speaker 1: by somebody whose job sole job he is not doing well,
27:27
Speaker 1: and then it gets dicey, especially because of the option
27:29
Speaker 1: thing that you mentioned. So like, I am prepared for
27:32
Speaker 1: that possibility just because it's baseball.
27:34
Speaker 2: Things happen year to year. But until I'm.
27:37
Speaker 1: Proven otherwise, I feel Jones should be safe.
27:42
Speaker 2: So I hope I articulated that well, but I.
27:45
Speaker 4: Just I just agree with you.
27:47
Speaker 3: But I think it's certain like the reason he's on
27:50
Speaker 3: here is because he is probably the most one dimensional
27:54
Speaker 3: chess piece on the team in terms of not being
27:56
Speaker 3: able to play in the field, in terms of really
27:58
Speaker 3: the only being useful for the pinch hit or if
28:01
Speaker 3: you're facing a lefty starter. I agree, I would not
28:04
Speaker 3: get rid of Jami Jones from the organization. I mean,
28:06
Speaker 3: will he repeat what he did last year. Who knows,
28:08
Speaker 3: but I think he at least have to give him
28:10
Speaker 3: a month or two to see because if he can,
28:14
Speaker 3: he's one of the best right handed platoon bats in
28:17
Speaker 3: the entire league. So yeah, I'm with you. But the
28:22
Speaker 3: question do you want to get rid of winstle Perez
28:24
Speaker 3: a valuable switch hitter? Do you wanted to option Matt
28:27
Speaker 3: Vierling who was one of your best players just two
28:29
Speaker 3: years ago? Like, for as much as this team seems set,
28:32
Speaker 3: I think there are gonna be some wrinkles ahead.
28:36
Speaker 1: And we talked about how spring training is hard to
28:39
Speaker 1: you know, get like moments or whatever. I would like
28:42
Speaker 1: to see eventually once he's ramped up in all that stuff,
28:44
Speaker 1: a couple of Matt Vierling moments just to kind of
28:46
Speaker 1: like put that back in the frontal vortex. You know,
28:50
Speaker 1: it's like what he can do because because he was,
28:52
Speaker 1: like you, he just basically didn't play last season, so
28:54
Speaker 1: he's kind of, you know, out of sight, out of
28:56
Speaker 1: mind a little bit, but you have to keep remind
28:59
Speaker 1: himself what he used to be able.
29:00
Speaker 2: Do we want to see a couple.
29:01
Speaker 1: More examples just to kind of formulate that picture a
29:04
Speaker 1: little bit more accurately. We should note that Tray Sweeney,
29:08
Speaker 1: he's been shut down from from throwing, has a you know,
29:11
Speaker 1: an arm issue, So well, hopefully he's okay or whatever.
29:15
Speaker 1: But that is in theory, one less body up in
29:19
Speaker 1: the middle of the field to compete with Kevin McGonagall,
29:23
Speaker 1: although I believe I'm correct on this that McGonagall was
29:26
Speaker 1: probably ahead of Sweeney in the pecking order. But who
29:31
Speaker 1: knows that?
29:31
Speaker 7: We?
29:31
Speaker 2: You know, I can't.
29:32
Speaker 4: Probably, but who who really knows? Again?
29:36
Speaker 3: Is there any world where McGonagall skips triple A? We
29:38
Speaker 3: don't know that Sweeney had not been talked about at all,
29:41
Speaker 3: but he had changed his swing, He had played the
29:45
Speaker 3: most games at short stop of last year. He was
29:48
Speaker 3: arguably a guy we had forgotten about, like too much.
29:53
Speaker 3: But now he's hurt. We don't quite know the extent
29:55
Speaker 3: of his injury. A. J. Hinchmans and they were also
29:57
Speaker 3: interested in having him move around, play some second and
30:00
Speaker 3: play maybe some third, just kind of expand his horizons.
30:03
Speaker 3: We'll have to see how much time he actually misses
30:05
Speaker 3: with his shoulder strain before we know what it means
30:07
Speaker 3: for him.
30:10
Speaker 1: Well, can you tell us about Eduardo Valencia? In addition
30:13
Speaker 1: to the forty man he's he's no longer low key.
30:19
Speaker 1: Now he's a guy that everyone's like, everyone wants to
30:21
Speaker 1: talk about the same, talking about how much they like him,
30:23
Speaker 1: what he can do, you know, hitting the baseball. But
30:27
Speaker 1: he is still a guy who's probably lost in the
30:29
Speaker 1: sauce of some high end catching prospects, or at least
30:33
Speaker 1: more hype to catching prospects. Obviously stellar major league catchers,
30:37
Speaker 1: and then the Tomasnedo you know, comfort level there, but
30:41
Speaker 1: people are.
30:42
Speaker 2: Talking about at Wardo. So I'm curious what your thoughts are.
30:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's a really interesting young player.
30:47
Speaker 3: Obviously raked in the minor leagues last year, had a
30:50
Speaker 3: terrific season, and I think the question for him this
30:53
Speaker 3: spring everyone's kind of trying to figure out, Okay, what
30:55
Speaker 3: is he going to look like in the big leagues.
30:58
Speaker 3: I think there's some data suggests he can hit the
31:00
Speaker 3: really hard, good exit velocities. I believe he handled velocity
31:03
Speaker 3: well in Triple A, so that bodes well for him. Defensively,
31:07
Speaker 3: How good does he behind the plate?
31:09
Speaker 4: Probably not great.
31:10
Speaker 3: Was he good enough to catch back there at an
31:13
Speaker 3: adequate level in the major league That's one of the questions,
31:15
Speaker 3: And he can also play some first base, And that's
31:18
Speaker 3: why I'd keep an eye out for him, because again
31:21
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I'm talking about the opening
31:22
Speaker 3: day roster, but I think there's a part of aj
31:25
Speaker 3: Hinch I would love to have three catchers just for
31:28
Speaker 3: some of the Shenanigans he could do with that, especially
31:31
Speaker 3: if one of those catchers can play another position in
31:33
Speaker 3: first base. There's a world where at some point this year,
31:38
Speaker 3: I could see Valencia being a right handed bench bat
31:41
Speaker 3: who could just kind of be used differently, who could
31:43
Speaker 3: allow you know, if Dylan Dingler is getting a day off,
31:47
Speaker 3: maybe he can get Dingler in ab for Jake Rogers
31:51
Speaker 3: mid game and not have to worry, or maybe he
31:53
Speaker 3: can spell Valent Like think, I think it expands some
31:59
Speaker 3: things AJ could do, and there would certainly be some
32:01
Speaker 3: interest in that, and again some of the bad at ball,
32:04
Speaker 3: Like there's a world where this guy might be more
32:06
Speaker 3: ready to hit in the major leagues than Max Anderson
32:08
Speaker 3: or how you leave right now, Like I'm not saying
32:11
Speaker 3: that's true, but I'm saying it's possible. And so if
32:14
Speaker 3: this guy ends up being your best blatoon bat, st
32:18
Speaker 3: Jami Jones gets injured or has a rough first couple
32:21
Speaker 3: of months and they do pull the plug. I wouldn't
32:24
Speaker 3: be shocked to Valencia see some time in the big
32:26
Speaker 3: leagues this year. He's he's pretty interesting in a lot
32:28
Speaker 3: of people like him.
32:31
Speaker 1: I know it's not sexy, but like I am kind
32:33
Speaker 1: of curious. And there would be guys, and we know
32:36
Speaker 1: who they are, that are gonna like play some first
32:38
Speaker 1: base behind Torq, but like a like a Torque injury,
32:43
Speaker 1: Like how they would handle that would be fascinating as well,
32:47
Speaker 1: because because you know what I mean, because there are
32:50
Speaker 1: some guys in the system that could play first base
32:52
Speaker 1: that offer higher offensive upside and then still allow you
32:55
Speaker 1: to do everything else with the rest of the rosters.
32:57
Speaker 1: So like the plan behind Torq, how what it actually
33:00
Speaker 1: would be, I would be curious to read, you know,
33:04
Speaker 1: from from the desk of A. J.
33:06
Speaker 2: Hinchin Scott Harris.
33:08
Speaker 1: All right, well, sorry, Rotation, we all know that, but
33:11
Speaker 1: I guess it is worth noting since last week did
33:13
Speaker 1: a roster projection. Valdez is here, Verlander is here. Obviously
33:18
Speaker 1: that pushes down Troy Melton and and Montero and and
33:22
Speaker 1: you know some guys obviously you know, are gonna get
33:24
Speaker 1: some endings this year. But you know, in terms of
33:28
Speaker 1: like the pitching as a whole, I guess Cody, it's
33:32
Speaker 1: another example of what can you make a plan for Montero,
33:38
Speaker 1: Like what is what is actually the best usage of
33:41
Speaker 1: him from an organizational perspective, because they love him, They've
33:47
Speaker 1: trusted him a lot the past two years, including the
33:49
Speaker 1: playoffs last year, And it's like, you put it in here,
33:53
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna, you know, paraphrase you, what if
33:57
Speaker 1: he's one of your best, do you just like throw
33:59
Speaker 1: him just because you just have to, yes to still
34:02
Speaker 1: be a starter? Or do you try to figure it out?
34:04
Speaker 1: And then also I would say again overall pitching plant,
34:08
Speaker 1: because then he would bleed into the bullpen bow risky.
34:12
Speaker 1: Like you know, we talked about him before, like is
34:15
Speaker 1: he safe as long as he's healthy or is there
34:17
Speaker 1: something to prove here? He's in your he's in your
34:20
Speaker 1: roster projection as well as a as a right handed
34:24
Speaker 1: bullpen arm. So I'm just kind of curious, Like you know,
34:27
Speaker 1: I'm connecting them in my mind, Cody. I don't know
34:29
Speaker 1: if they actually are connected in terms of the formulation
34:31
Speaker 1: of this roster, but I'm kind of connecting guys like
34:33
Speaker 1: that in my mind as as what could take shape
34:37
Speaker 1: over the next I don't know what six weeks.
34:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think these are good questions. I think
34:42
Speaker 3: let's look again this rotation provided everyone stays healthy, which
34:47
Speaker 3: might not happen, but let's.
34:48
Speaker 4: Say they do.
34:49
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty it's it's obviously set right, and
34:52
Speaker 3: I think we can say with a pretty high degree
34:54
Speaker 3: of confidence the Tigers would prefer Troy Milton remain stretched
34:57
Speaker 3: out as a starter and would sence him to triple A.
35:00
Speaker 3: Toledo wouldn't be shocked if he get some early spot
35:03
Speaker 3: starts or doubleheader starts, and as soon as there's an injury,
35:06
Speaker 3: he could get a call. But Cater Montero is more
35:09
Speaker 3: interesting because he's been around the block a little bit more.
35:12
Speaker 3: He can be a starter, but man, what he did
35:15
Speaker 3: out of the pin in the playoffs I think opened
35:18
Speaker 3: a lot of eyes, and I wonder will they take
35:22
Speaker 3: a similar approach and be like, hey, you're starter until
35:25
Speaker 3: you're not, or would they say, maybe he's one of
35:28
Speaker 3: our best thirteen pitchers, Maybe we should just bump him
35:31
Speaker 3: to the bullpen.
35:32
Speaker 4: I don't know.
35:33
Speaker 3: We did see Cater start the Tigers first spring training game.
35:36
Speaker 3: His command was not great, but the velo was up
35:39
Speaker 3: on all of his pitches. He talked about kind of
35:42
Speaker 3: trying to come out throw with more intent from pitch one,
35:45
Speaker 3: regardless of how many innings he's going. Maybe almost a
35:47
Speaker 3: lesson he learned from some bullpen outings. So I wouldn't
35:52
Speaker 3: rule out the idea that cater Montero could be in
35:54
Speaker 3: this bullpen. One reason I would have some pause there again,
35:57
Speaker 3: who you had taken out, it would probably be a
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Speaker 3: right handed pitcher such as Brendan Hannafy who's been very good,
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Speaker 3: or bo Briski bo I put him on my roster projection.
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Speaker 3: I think he still kind of has an upward battle
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Speaker 3: to the roster, whether it's Montero or beating out Hannafee
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Speaker 3: or beating out a third lefty. Bo Brisky was really
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Speaker 3: good for the Tigers at the end of twenty four,
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Speaker 3: but last season was just injury riddled, and it's kind
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Speaker 3: of like starting over for him a little bit.
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Speaker 4: I think it's important to remember how good he could be.
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Speaker 3: This guy who was hitting one hundred and pitched in
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Speaker 3: six of the tigers seven playoff games in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 3: That's why I have him on this roster projection if
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Speaker 3: he can recapture that at all. But again, if they
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Speaker 3: bump Montero to the pin, maybe he's the first guy out.
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Speaker 3: And also I only put two left handers in this
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Speaker 3: roster projection. I think that's very much up in the air.
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Speaker 3: Some of that will depend on how other teams get
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Speaker 3: through camp that the Tigers face in the first ten
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Speaker 3: days of the season. You're going to the Padres, who
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Speaker 3: are pretty balanced, I think, maybe a little more right handed,
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Speaker 3: The Diamondbacks slightly left handed. The Cardinals right now look
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Speaker 3: like they could be really left handed. So I actually
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Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked if someone like Drew Summers gets on
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Speaker 3: this roster. You have some other interesting lefties in Manuel DeJesus,
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Speaker 3: even Brian Sammons who's actually working a little more as
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Speaker 3: a starter. Sean Gunther, another forgotten face from twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 3: So that's all to say, like, there's certainly a lot
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Speaker 3: of factors that are kind of interconnected to your point.
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Speaker 1: You know, we probably don't talk about Brendan Handifye enough
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Speaker 1: just in terms of how much he was relied on
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Speaker 1: really the past. You know, he was really good in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and he was used a lot in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. The list of relievers that were used
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Speaker 1: more than him that are right handed is Will Vest
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Speaker 1: and Tommy Canley. Wow, that's it and yeah, and we
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Speaker 1: know how much those and that's a high usage for
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Speaker 1: the guys in front of him too, right, So like Handafy,
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Speaker 1: I would probably say, less effective in twenty five than
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Speaker 1: twenty four, but still like high, you know, highly valued,
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Speaker 1: and we probably don't give him enough like credit in
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Speaker 1: terms of like the hierarchy in which AJ would like
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Speaker 1: go to him in certain situations. So I just wanted
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Speaker 1: to shout that out, just a reminder Brendon Hanaffy, Like
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Speaker 1: it's not sexy like some of the other names on
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Speaker 1: that list, but highly effective and highly relied upon.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I certainly think there's a use for hand
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Speaker 3: Ifee a really good right handed sinkerballer. I will point
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Speaker 3: out his roster case, he needs to do a little
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Speaker 3: better against left handed batters. Left He's had a five
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Speaker 3: to sixty slugging percentage against him last year, which is
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Speaker 3: not good. He's pretty much right handed only, which limits him,
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Speaker 3: which maybe could hurt his roster case. If someone like
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Speaker 3: a Bowbriskie really does emerge with a strong spring.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm also curious to see how Dylan Smith
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Speaker 1: looks throughout the spring. And you know, it's a guy
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Speaker 1: with obviously major league experience and he's on the forty man.
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Speaker 1: So like I, I guess, don't discount Dylan Smith. It's
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Speaker 1: a guy that seems like they like a lot, and
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Speaker 1: you got a little taste in majors.
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Speaker 2: So I'm just just keeping an eye out. It's all
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Speaker 2: just just keeping an eye out, all right. Anything else
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Speaker 2: from this.
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Speaker 1: Projection of this exercise or anything else from this weekend
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Speaker 1: you wanted to get into before we get out of here.
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Speaker 4: No, I think I think that covers the main stuff,
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Speaker 4: all right.
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