Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Gary McKibben: God’s Perfect Timing, Converging Events & Prophetic Milestones
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:13No topic off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
- 0:19Hey, friends.
- 0:20Thank you so much for tuning in and for sharing the podcast.
- 0:23I hope you had a wonderful Fourth of July and that you're still enjoying summer.
- 0:29We have had so much stinking rain here.
- 0:32It may compete with my friend Gary McKibbin, we're going to talk to you from the UK in a minute.
- 0:38But our producer, Mike Menzel, just texted me this, it's just interesting.
- 0:42We had a fundraiser, I think we got donations from 27, 28 states and three or four countries.
- 0:51And he just texted me this.
- 0:52I find it interesting that the top cities who listen to World View Matters are Dallas, Atlanta,
- 1:01which is surprising, Seattle, Chicago, and Minneapolis.
- 1:05I'm thinking, wow, just you never know how this thing all works.
- 1:09Anyway, we're blessed to have Pastor Gary McKibbin back with us.
- 1:12He is the pastor of victory, church, bell fast.
- 1:16And for those of you keeping score at home and looking at maps, that's over in the UK.
- 1:21So we're just so excited to have him back, talking about his new book that's coming out.
- 1:25My goodness, Gary, welcome, good to see you again, brother, nice connection today.
- 1:30Oh, it's good to be here and it is raining here as well.
- 1:33So you know what though we went from we went from winter to I don't even think I'd call it spring.
- 1:43I'd call it rainy season and it started in like February.
- 1:47So it was mild as far as winter temperatures.
- 1:49Well, anyway, we're in Wisconsin, but it just it was raining and then it just stayed kept raining March, April.
- 1:56And you're thinking, okay, are we done yet?
- 1:58May and it's still raining in June, but or July.
- 2:01So here we are, but let's not complain about the weather.
- 2:04Could God sovereign over that?
- 2:05That's part of what we're going to talk about.
- 2:07God's sovereignty today and Pastor Gary had a great suggestion about talking about God's timing,
- 2:14his prophetic timing, kind of what's going on.
- 2:16Just what's on your heart before we get into your book, maybe an update on your church.
- 2:20Just you're sensing God's timing and what's happening in the world.
- 2:26Yeah, well, the big thing that sort of sits with me and I was teaching about this recently that,
- 2:32you know, quite a lot of people are getting weary within the kingdom within within the brethren.
- 2:37There's quite a lot of talk about weariness.
- 2:39How long are we going to wait for the harp as old the rapture?
- 2:42But that in itself is biblical and we know that God is never late, nor is he going to be early.
- 2:47His timing is perfect.
- 2:49In fact, the word time in Hebrew is the word F and it's made up primarily from two letters,
- 2:56the Aleph in the Tav.
- 2:57And we know that if we look at Revelation one and verse eight, it talks about him being the Alpha
- 3:03and the Omega, the Aleph in the Tav.
- 3:06That sense, it's like his signature is put on all of his timing.
- 3:10So when there's a point of prophetic fulfillment, prophetic conversions,
- 3:15you can't worry about when it's going to be fulfilled because you know the God's timing.
- 3:19He signed his signature on those times.
- 3:23And we see it from everything from Genesis chapter one that the term F or the word F time
- 3:29is left untranslated three times within that scripture is left untranslated
- 3:36because even if you look at it, the F describes, if you take the paleo Hebrew
- 3:41that the Tav is a picture of the cross.
- 3:43So it's a picture of three crosses told from the very first verse of the Bible,
- 3:49something that would be fulfilled two thousand years later or not two thousand years later,
- 3:53two thousand years ago, that it would be fulfilled at Calvary that we know that
- 3:59his timing is for ordained and it's never going to be late.
- 4:03And it's right down to the perfect millisecond.
- 4:06And we're seeing so many prophetic convergences right now that we have to realize
- 4:12that it's still Jesus who in Revelation five is the one who opens the scroll.
- 4:17It's him who ushers in the timing that we're in.
- 4:21So that's the kind of thing that we're looking at.
- 4:24You know, I know that I myself we've been talking about the significant timing of 2025.
- 4:31And it is significant.
- 4:33It's certainly seen as significant when it comes to the Luciferian elite and what they're planning.
- 4:40It's significant in terms of globalism.
- 4:43It's also significant if we take the calendar of the Essenes that people like Dr. Ken Johnson
- 4:49or Josh Peck really go into that that's the start of the last Jubilee of the age of grace
- 4:56or as we would determine the age of the church.
- 4:59So that we know that we're in that last frame.
- 5:02And all of the if we take the prophetic significance of that,
- 5:06the majority of prophetic fulfillments of a happen within the first few.
- 5:11Sort of years within the last Jubilee in history.
- 5:15So whenever we look at 25 AD to 75 AD, which we knew was the last Jubilee of the age of Torah,
- 5:25we know that Jesus starts as ministry.
- 5:27He has crucified on the cross.
- 5:28He has resurrected from the day of the church is born.
- 5:32As the church is born, then we see the blossoming off the church through the book of Acts
- 5:36and we see the persecution coming in through Claudius.
- 5:39We see the persecution sort of culminating at that time under Nero.
- 5:42It's all at the beginning section of that prophetic timeframe.
- 5:48But also in terms of the Luciferian elite, you know,
- 5:52I don't teach him recently on the teachings of Alice Bailey.
- 5:56A lot of people are worthy of possibly is, you know, she is or she was a Luciferian.
- 6:04She was the an individual who coined the term New Age.
- 6:08She was a student of Madame Blavatsky.
- 6:10And she formed the Lucifer Trust and the Lucifer Trust.
- 6:15Then for the point of, I guess, visual awareness, you know,
- 6:20to try and sort of hide it a little bit, change his name to Lucius Trust.
- 6:24But then it's headquarter set on at the UN.
- 6:30It has significant, I guess, influence into the United Nations.
- 6:35It runs its med- the United Nations meditation room.
- 6:39So if you were to break that down, basically, we knew that the United Nations
- 6:42has a meditation room that is that world leaders can meet in and it is
- 6:46Ram by a Luciferian organization.
- 6:50Wow.
- 6:51And they, it's amazing.
- 6:52And they talk about 2025.
- 6:54So when Alice Bailey's teaching, she talks about 2025,
- 6:58the time of the externalization of the hierarchy.
- 7:03And what she's talking about in that is that those players behind the same
- 7:09start to come to the fore, one in particular,
- 7:12one that she signifies as someone called the world teacher, or the Matara.
- 7:17The world teacher is this messiatide personality that is going to, according to them,
- 7:24lead the populace into the new age, age of Aquarius, this new age of enlightenment.
- 7:32And we know it is something different.
- 7:34We know it as the rise of the Antichrist.
- 7:37Now, I am not for one minute saying that the Antichrist comes on the scene of 2025.
- 7:42But I am saying that there is an elite, I guess, ushering in or plan or agenda
- 7:51to push things in that direction, certainly from a facet of society that are quite
- 7:57often seen as being in the shadows, but more and more we're seeing them on the fore
- 8:03right now.
- 8:04We're seeing them right there in the midst of things.
- 8:09For instance, we know that a Klaus Schwab is dropped back from the WEEF, but really it's
- 8:14his family that are taken over.
- 8:17And a Klaus Schwab was a student of Henry Kissinger.
- 8:20We know this.
- 8:21Henry Kissinger is famous for saying that if you control the food, you control the people,
- 8:27if you control the energy, you control the nations.
- 8:30If you control the money, you control the world.
- 8:34And we are seeing, I believe, an agenda, a globalist agenda to try and take control of
- 8:40all three of those right now.
- 8:42In fact, the Rothschilds Commerce Trade Conference met last week and they determined that there
- 8:50was a significant approach by certain countries to try and shore up their domestic food products
- 9:00for the purpose that they think that there's a famine of sorts coming.
- 9:03But what that's caused is the price of food around the world to start going into major
- 9:10inflation.
- 9:11And this is biblical.
- 9:12I'm sorry if I'm talking too long here, but no, this is good.
- 9:17So if you take this, you know, this is the way we're talking about by timing, right?
- 9:22So I look back, you know, if you take the fig tree prophecy, I know that sometimes people
- 9:26don't take the fig tree prophecy as applying to the Reestablishment of Israel, I do, and
- 9:32I see, in fact, that period certainly 47 to 48 in terms of the Hebrew year, 1947 to
- 9:4148 being like the starter gun of the race, okay?
- 9:47So three major things I know that occurred prophetically in that time.
- 9:52Yes, we take the Reestablishment of Israel and the Reestablishment of Israel will culminate
- 9:57whenever we see Zachariah 12 and Israel is becoming a burdensome storm for the nations.
- 10:02And I thank anybody who is watching the news would be hard push to say that that's not
- 10:07happening right now before our eyes.
- 10:10And that fits in well because we know the fig tree generation and the generation is normally
- 10:1480 years or so, we're coming to the crux of that in 2028.
- 10:21But also, we know that in 1947 there was the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in Khamra.
- 10:28Now that is the fulfillment of prophecy, I believe.
- 10:32Isaiah 29 verse 4 talks about the very dust of the earth speaking out.
- 10:37We know that Daniel 12 verse 4 tells you that the time of end, the end is marked with increased
- 10:43knowledge.
- 10:44That's not talking about notches and internet speeds and all of that.
- 10:48It's talking about biblical knowledge and we see the cooperation of what the Dead Sea Scrolls
- 10:54added to us in terms of calendars, in terms of being able to discern timing, in terms
- 10:59of, you know, cooperating prophecy and adding more to what we're looking at from the background
- 11:04picture.
- 11:05But also in 1947, there was something else that happened.
- 11:10Now, Elie Marzole talks about this, it was him who sort of first told me about it and
- 11:15sort of opened my eyes that Roswell was really the start of what can be seen as Matthew 24
- 11:22verse 37.
- 11:23Right?
- 11:24So Jesus says the end times are marked as like the days of Noah.
- 11:30And the days of Noah, we had the watchers, James 6 verse 4, the Bukavino tells us this,
- 11:36the Bukav Joshua tells us this.
- 11:38Now what we see is that the UFO alien narrative being pushed since 1947 on Roswell, and I personally
- 11:45believe these are not from other worlds.
- 11:48These are interdimensional beings, demons, demonic spirits.
- 11:54But you're seeing 1947, 40, it sort of be like the starter pistol for the race to the
- 12:01end.
- 12:02And as we're in 2024 right now, if that were the case, you would start to see, and like
- 12:07in any race, as you start to see the finished line approach, things start to accelerate and
- 12:13we are seeing this.
- 12:15Like if we take the four horsemen at the apocalypse, we know that Jesus opens the sale for the
- 12:21tribulation to begin and then they're that loose.
- 12:24But if we go back to Sakurai 6 where they're first mentioned, it tells us that they go
- 12:29to and fro.
- 12:31That word in the Hebrew says to patrol.
- 12:34And as you start, they start to sense their time.
- 12:38They started, you know, I think about it like horses in the stalls before horse race.
- 12:43As they know their times about to approach and the race is really going to kick off to
- 12:47that last sprint, they're starting to just so move and really sort of get filled up with
- 12:53adrenaline just before the opening of the sales or the opening of the gates.
- 12:59So that's my thoughts and in terms of timing.
- 13:02I hope that sort of makes a little bit of sense, sorry for speaking so long.
- 13:06It's okay, you're the guest, you know, people hear me all the time.
- 13:10It's fascinating because no, we talk about a lot of different topics on this podcast
- 13:13and the timing, God's timing.
- 13:16We've heard about agenda 2030.
- 13:18It's interesting.
- 13:192025 is very interesting if we get there, right?
- 13:24But so we're talking with Pastor Gary McKibbin, victory church bell fast.
- 13:28I didn't give the website.
- 13:30It's victorychurchbellfast.com.
- 13:32We'll get an update from Pastor Gary on the church.
- 13:36And also he's got a book out that you can preorder guardians at the gate.
- 13:41We'll be right back on World View Matters.
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- 14:35So Pastor Gary McKibbin, I love this brother from the UK and victorychurchbellfast.com.
- 14:41He's got a book coming out and it's called Guardians at the Gate Commission for the Church
- 14:48in End Times.
- 14:50Gary, you've probably been working on this for a while.
- 14:53Finally, it's like the birthing process is almost here because you can pre-order it.
- 14:58Tell us about the book, give us a basic description of the book and why you decide to write
- 15:03it now.
- 15:04Yeah, well, basically, if I had to sort of sum it up in a nutshell, it's kind of like
- 15:09a remnant go to, you know, where the remnant church and the remnant is mentioned in first
- 15:17Thessalonians and it's talking about how we operate in this season.
- 15:22You know, rather than, I don't believe the church were ever created to be Piusitters.
- 15:26We're never created to just be at 10 days of a church.
- 15:29Everyone, if we go back to Acts, everyone was a living, breathing part of the body.
- 15:34So within that concept, there's a lot of spiritual warfare, I guess, strategies of the enemy
- 15:41revealed so that we can be aware of them.
- 15:43And the process of the book is revealing strategies both corporately and individually
- 15:48upon the brethren and then how we deal with that.
- 15:53For instance, we were talking there about the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
- 15:56I identified those as four Canaanite deities mentioned in the Book of Sounds and how those
- 16:03four Canaanite deities are basically the four point strategy for every single spiritual
- 16:09attack, every single spiritual battle that we go through individually and corporately.
- 16:15And it is all sort of summed up, I'll give you a brief snippet if that's okay.
- 16:19It's summed up if you read a book of Job in Job 1, one of the things that you see come
- 16:24against Job is the four-pronged strategy from the enemy when he attacks Job.
- 16:29The first thing he does is he sends the seabians.
- 16:32Now, the seabians are identified later in the book of Job as slavers and slavers that
- 16:38are there to conquer and enslave people.
- 16:41Now, that to me speaks of an antichrist's spirit because Jesus Christ comes to set us free
- 16:47and free and date, who so it sets free is free and date.
- 16:50The opposite of that, the counter to that would be the spirit of the antichrist and he
- 16:55comes to ensnare and catch it and how he does so is revealed enough first attack.
- 17:01So what the seabians do is they take the oxen and the dunking from Job.
- 17:06Now, when you take the oxen then that stops the offering, but also the oxen and typology
- 17:12represent the teachers and preachers of the word of God.
- 17:16That's why Geoderonomy tells us not to muzzle the oxen and the donkey and typology and
- 17:22Old Testament typology is a foreshadow or a shadow of the authority of the word of God.
- 17:28So when Jesus comes into Jerusalem on the back of a donkey, how Ballam's donkey speaks
- 17:35out in authority, it is the authority of the word of God.
- 17:39And the first thing that antichrist's spirit tries to do that we see rampant throughout
- 17:44society is to take the word of God and the authority of the word of God away from the
- 17:51believer.
- 17:52Now, if we look through the pandemic, that was majorly displayed, majorly displayed,
- 17:58people started to take the text out of the context to create a narrative to shut our
- 18:03doors.
- 18:04You know, they took Romans 13, but everyone was 13, doesn't equate to Hebrews 10, 25 or
- 18:10who's 14 when you start to see that we're never to forsake the gathering of the brethren.
- 18:15This is an, so that would be the white rider or receph if you were to take the cannon
- 18:20like dirty and it shows you basically if you talk to anybody who's going through a spiritual
- 18:25battle right now and you sit them down and you ask them, are you reading your word?
- 18:31You can usually tell that they're not because that's the first port of call that the enemy
- 18:36tries to do.
- 18:37He wants to take away your, I guess, focus on the word of God.
- 18:43And then I ask them, are you praying?
- 18:45And those are the two things that tend to go at the start of a spiritual battle, especially
- 18:51if you're going to fold that spiritual battle or struggle through it and you tend to find
- 18:56that's the case.
- 18:57And if that's the case, then if we're aware of it, you know, as some say, writes, no
- 19:02your enemy, I know yourself and you have nothing to fear for 100 battles.
- 19:08So if we know what the enemy is trying to do, he's trying to take away the word of God
- 19:11from us, he tries to cause your circumstances to be dire so that you start to believe
- 19:16the circumstance over the word.
- 19:18You start to believe the counter to the word of God, the anti-Christ, pseudo-Christ narrative
- 19:24as opposed to what Jesus says and Jesus says the word, solar scripture, we need to get
- 19:30back to the word.
- 19:31So that's just a snippet of the first one of what we're talking about.
- 19:33But it's the idea that within Joe one, within Revelation six, within Zacharias six, all
- 19:40the way through the battle, through the Bible, God shows us this prophetic, I guess, construct
- 19:49or blueprint of the devil's strategy against each of us and how we counter that.
- 19:55And so the book kind of centers in on that.
- 19:59We talk about a lot of things, we talk about, you know, how we're guardians of the throne,
- 20:04how it sort of, you know, how it upsets the enemy because the enemy talking about Satan
- 20:09himself, if we look at the Sequel 20th, 20th, and Isaiah 14, he is a covering cherub.
- 20:15So he is a rind of throne of God.
- 20:18But now he's displayed and we are called in Revelation four, as elders, as the church
- 20:24into the throne room, as the menorah or the 24 elders, as into the throne room with God,
- 20:30somewhere he can't go anymore.
- 20:32So that's kind of just some of the stuff that's in the end of the day.
- 20:37Yeah, so it's available September, you can pre-order it now.
- 20:41Will it also be on Amazon?
- 20:43I know we can get it the link on your website, is that right?
- 20:46Yeah, yeah, you'll be able to get it through the link in the website and it will be available
- 20:51on Amazon, I think at the end of September, start of October.
- 20:55Awesome, awesome.
- 20:56Good to get a little synopsis of the book, something about your back on, it's always impressed
- 21:00me.
- 21:01I think you use this to morph into your church or your facility there, that you're a
- 21:07former professional kickboxing champion and master in the art of jiu-jitsu, 7th degree
- 21:13black belt, and so that was your background.
- 21:17So you take this fighting spirit and you put it into spiritual warfare, man, I don't want
- 21:22to mess with you, Gary.
- 21:24You know, it's been a while since I trained, my son is, my son and daughter, they both,
- 21:31I still own the gym, they run that.
- 21:34My eldest son is 23, he's a world champion at the minute, and he's feder than me, stronger
- 21:41than me, faster than me, you get to that peak where you know more, but you start to go
- 21:46down hill, so yeah, I don't mess with him.
- 21:52So really quick, I've noticed some of the guests that you have on over on your podcast
- 21:57and you've done interviews with them as well, JB Hickson, Brandon Holthaus, tell us a little
- 22:02bit more about your YouTube channel or your podcast that you do, tell us a little bit more
- 22:07about that.
- 22:08Yeah, so on a Tuesday night, we do what is called the prophetic I'd like.
- 22:13So we look through stories, but we were always sent around scripture because you know,
- 22:20that's our meat, that's our bones, and then on a Wednesday night, what we'll do is we'll
- 22:23do a Bible study, and again, similar to that, we'll bring in scripture in the sense to
- 22:29connect it with the current events, so teaching the Nigh Word, but we like to have on guests,
- 22:34so we've had a regular guest, would be Pete Garcia, he's back on during the summer here.
- 22:42We've had Pastor Kurt Raid, Lee Brainard's been on quite a lot from South Cape, Brandon
- 22:48Holthaus, Josh Peck, Derek Gilbert, I'm missing loads here up, we've had William Federer,
- 22:56you know, I know you've had William as well, and you know, that's one of those interviews
- 23:00where I just went, right, I put myself on mute for the whole time, brilliant, you know.
- 23:08But yeah, it's all about, it's a little bit like that, it's not as highly polished as
- 23:13yours, but we just like to sort of, I just, I'm so in love with the Word of God that
- 23:19I just want to bring out as much as I can, I want people to be equipped for this time.
- 23:25I think that's, you know, I love seeing this, I love seeing the likes of your podcast here,
- 23:32the things that Lee does on South Cape and Pastor Kurt, and it's all equipping the remnant
- 23:38for this time.
- 23:39Amen.
- 23:40Now I've got Lee coming up in a few weeks, he'll be on, just great brothers in the Lord,
- 23:45I'm just glad we get weary, you know, I'm glad to be in this fight with other men of
- 23:50God from around the country, around the world, knowing that we're not alone, and we're
- 23:56the remnant, now there's not a large number of us, you, especially the pastors, the ones
- 24:01on the front lines, but I'm just so thankful for different ministries and people, you
- 24:07mentioned something about equipping and one reason I think these programs and the podcasts
- 24:12like you're putting out the content, the topics, what you're doing is so important because
- 24:16a lot of people, Gary, and you probably heard this to contact us and say, we can't find
- 24:21a good Bible teaching church or we can't find a church that tackles Bible prophecy and
- 24:28connects it to current events.
- 24:29I know you've heard that a lot, so that's why what you're doing and what others that
- 24:33we mentioned, the guests that I have on the show, so important, I'm very thankful that
- 24:38we can do this.
- 24:39Well, we have, I was on with Pete Garcia and I had an individual contact me from probably
- 24:48about 60 miles, 70 miles away from the church and they were struggling, they wanted a church
- 24:55to go to, they ended up, they're now a member of the church.
- 24:59We had, I got contacted this week because we're having baptisms in a few weeks, someone
- 25:05who watches the online YouTube channel, but they live in Liverpool, they ask, could they
- 25:13be baptized?
- 25:14So they're coming over for the baptism.
- 25:16So it's funny that we are spread out, we are, like the church of Philadelphia, smaller
- 25:22numbers, smaller, you know, strength, we can strengthen our sense, but we're overcomers
- 25:28and we're gathering together and it reminds me of in state 11, it says that in the end times
- 25:34there will be a famine and not a famine in the land, not a bread and not of water, but
- 25:41if the word of God, and times of famine, just like in the time of Joseph, people search
- 25:46site, the nourishment, and that's what we're finding, people travel right to, like we
- 25:53said, they're tuning in from all over the world just to connect.
- 25:56Yeah, it's fascinating because even as things converge, events happen and demonic activities
- 26:03off the charts today, and so more of these things we see in our culture and around the world,
- 26:08people tend to go, okay, what does the Bible say about that?
- 26:12Are they're going to go to try to find someone that can explain this to them?
- 26:16By the way, I think I'm pretty sure Pete Garcia is the one that contacted me about you,
- 26:23or I don't remember how that worked out, but I'm so glad, so thankful.
- 26:27Yeah, he's a good brother too, blessings on all that he does, and God's just moving.
- 26:32God's using different people, different spheres of influence, and we all have one,
- 26:37and friends, I just want to encourage you to, and Pastor Gary would say the same thing,
- 26:41whether you have a radio show or a podcast or you're a pastor of a church or whatever,
- 26:45maybe you don't even have a surveyed ministry in church, you still have a sphere of influence,
- 26:51and so we just have to be biblical. You mentioned, I think earlier in the show,
- 26:55the authority of God's Word. We have to make sure this, Jesus, the Word is our ultimate authority.
- 27:02That's our standard. That's what we have to make sure that we are discerning,
- 27:06right, and then proclaiming. So your final thoughts in the last 30 seconds, Gary?
- 27:11Well, I would agree with you that there is an increase in demonic activity.
- 27:15We were out in straight church on Monday, saw it firsthand at people attacking, people just
- 27:21full and proclaiming Lucifer and serving Satan on the straight. So therefore, the church,
- 27:28the remnant, have to be so entrenched in the Word and gathering together,
- 27:33connecting together, whether it's home churches or whether it's online, we need to be together on
- 27:38this. Amen, brother. Stay strong, and I know you will be in touch. Thanks for all you do.
- 27:44God bless. God bless you, friends. Thanks for sharing the podcast, and as always,
- 27:49keep speaking the truth about things that matter.