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Advice to Love By · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a bonus episode of Long
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Speaker 2: Story Short the podcast.
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Speaker 1: I'm Megan, I'm Wendy.
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Speaker 2: In today's episode, we are discussing Advice to Love By,
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Speaker 2: the sixth and final Fall Harvest movie from Hallmark Channel.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I have some thoughts, but I'm going to share
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Speaker 2: show notes, and we are going to be giving you
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Speaker 2: the opportunity to vote which of the weekends three movies
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Speaker 2: we will be reviewing next week. We do reserve the
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Speaker 2: right to override your vote. That said, I'm very excited
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Speaker 2: to watch all of this weekends movies, so I would
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Speaker 2: not be upset about any direction that this vote goes.
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Speaker 2: I can't say that for every weekend, but those movies
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Speaker 2: Instagram so you can register your vote.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay here now. If you guys pick that
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Speaker 1: freaking nine Lives cat movie or whatever it is, sequels
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Speaker 1: in your power of veto on that one. Yes, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: it's not happening.
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Speaker 2: So coming back to Advice to Love by Wendy, do
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Speaker 2: you have a synopsis?
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Speaker 1: Nope? Damn it. Advice to Love by when a love
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Speaker 1: advice author crosses pass with a dating columnist and attraction
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Speaker 1: begins to blossom into more starring Aaron Westbrook and Brooks Darnell.
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Speaker 2: Let's hop into some news and notes about this movie.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, why do I have his name written as
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Speaker 2: Darnell Brooks?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what? Wait, let me look,
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Speaker 1: I know it's Brooks Darnell. Yeah, you're right, you're right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So Aaron Westbrook went to Harvard?
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Speaker 1: Did you know that? I? No, I didn't.
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Speaker 2: And she currently plays Tabitha on Riverdale at a high schooler, right,
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Speaker 2: a high schooler? Yeah? Yeah, Well I assume I actually
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Speaker 2: don't currently watch Riverdale. I'm gonna be honest me neither.
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Speaker 2: But I need to look and see how old she
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Speaker 2: is because I mean, look, Luke Perry was forty and
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Speaker 2: played a high schooler. I just need to know how
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Speaker 2: old she is in real life. I'm not shaming her
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Speaker 2: like if you can get that teenage roll, get it.
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Speaker 1: Girl, but get that CW money. She is thirty three
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Speaker 1: years old.
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Speaker 2: Yep, she's like Gabrielle cart Totally.
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Speaker 1: Totally. This movie had a couple of different working titles
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Speaker 1: before landing on Advice to love By. First was Flirting
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Speaker 1: with Romance, which I am shocked that there is not
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Speaker 1: another Hallmark movie called Flirting with Romance. There's got to
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Speaker 1: be right, I.
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Speaker 2: Mean right the second title, there is a Hallmark movie
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Speaker 2: by that title.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they had to get rid of it.
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Speaker 1: Love By the book was a twenty fifteen Hallmark movie,
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Speaker 1: so they had to change it to what is it now,
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Speaker 1: Advise to love By? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I think Advice to love By is a better title
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Speaker 2: than Flirting of Romance for this particular movie.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think so too. Like I'm googling, what
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Speaker 1: the heck? This is breaking news? Executive producer Patti Stanger
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Speaker 1: for this movie? Yes? Can you believe that? Do you
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Speaker 1: guys know who Patty Stanger is?
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Speaker 2: She's better known as the millionaire matchmaker I Stanger up.
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Speaker 1: To these days? I'm like shook, right now? Is it
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Speaker 1: the same? It is the same Patty's Stanger? Wow? Interesting?
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Speaker 1: I don't know which. She's probably matching people and serving
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Speaker 1: as a you know, a council on these movies. Wow.
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Speaker 1: Crazy right, indeed, Wow, I'm like sweating over this news
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Speaker 1: exciting stuff. Uh director Heather Hawthorne Doyle. Yeah, she. I
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Speaker 1: have a lot, a lot of news and notes on
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Speaker 1: the director here.
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Speaker 2: For what it is pouring here, it is.
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Speaker 1: Like I can hear it inside my closet with the
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Speaker 1: doors closed. Boring. Oh that's nice.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, let's talk Heather Hawthorne Doyle.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So she also directed a little daytime drama which
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Speaker 1: we were so excited for but didn't love in the end.
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Speaker 1: Is there a bit of a parallel to that to
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Speaker 1: this movie? For me? We haven't done first impressions. Go ahead,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna have to really think about it.
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Speaker 1: What else was there? According to Twitter user sleepy Kitty
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Speaker 1: pot which I think we should try to get on
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Speaker 1: the podcast because I don't know how this person knows
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Speaker 1: so much inside Hallmark stuff.
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Speaker 2: If you want the Hallmark insider information, you should be
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Speaker 2: following this person. I in my life have assumed it's
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Speaker 2: a woman. I have done no research. I don't actually
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Speaker 2: know that, but agree with Love. If you're listening, come
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Speaker 2: on the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, how do they know so much insider stuff?
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Speaker 1: It's got to be an inside person who works for Hallmark.
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Speaker 2: It has to be well, but she doesn't. They don't
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Speaker 2: just do Hallmark. If you scroll through their fee they
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Speaker 2: they do know quite a bit about Hallmark. But they
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Speaker 2: were talking all the network's holiday movies.
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Speaker 1: Really wow, all of them? Okay, So anyway, She tweeted
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Speaker 1: that Heather Hawthorne Doyle is also directing an upcoming Christmas
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Speaker 1: movie called a God Wink Christmas Miracle of Love, which
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Speaker 1: is a fourth in a series. Now, please tell me
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Speaker 1: have you seen these God week Wink movies?
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Speaker 2: I've seen one of them because one of them features
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Speaker 2: one of my favorite actresses whose name I cannot remember, Brooke.
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Speaker 2: Do you or say she's a Hallmark actress? But she's
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Speaker 2: been in a lot of things. She was in Royal Pains,
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Speaker 2: which is a show that I loved.
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Speaker 1: I have not seen all of the previous three.
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Speaker 2: But did you happen to see the timeline of what's
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Speaker 2: happening for Heather Hawthorne Doyle in terms of her movie
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Speaker 2: production direction schedule.
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Speaker 1: That this movie is set to begin in November.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, so production on Advice to Love by wrapped
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Speaker 2: on August twenty eighth. Okay, premiered on October sixteenth. That's
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Speaker 2: about a six week turnaround.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Today, October eighteenth, she begins production on a god week
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Speaker 2: Christmas Miracle of Love.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, So because my note says that this Godwink
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Speaker 1: movie it was, is set to begin in November. But
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Speaker 1: maybe that's just old information. I'm pretty sure you have
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Speaker 1: old information and I'll tell you why.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Because on Heather Hawthorne Doyle's Instagram, she had posted
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Speaker 2: a photo on October sixth that said today was signed
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Speaker 2: and a half hours of zoom meetings, which means we're
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Speaker 2: halfway through prep, happy to be doing another Godwinks movie.
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Speaker 2: And then she has an image that says Godwink Christmas.
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Speaker 2: Heather Hawthorne Doyle director, and then she says tomorrow our
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Speaker 2: last movie debuts Monday, we go to camera with our
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Speaker 2: next one. It'll air in December. So it is possible
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Speaker 2: that she's working on two movies. But my ascension is
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Speaker 2: that's the Godwink. Yeah. Yeah, well that's some quick Hallmark turnaround.
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Speaker 1: Yeah is October? When do you think this is gonna
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Speaker 1: come out like December. It's it said December in her posts.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, we don't know where exactly the lineup this
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Speaker 1: is gonna fall. This could be movie number twenty four
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Speaker 1: or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I think the Godwink movies typically are on
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Speaker 2: Hallmark Movies and Mysteries.
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Speaker 1: Oh so I.
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Speaker 2: Can look and see there are nine movies that will
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Speaker 2: be on that channel, and only the first three have names.
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Speaker 2: The Godwink does not have a release date as at
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Speaker 2: this point.
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Speaker 1: Got it?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 1: Update on the IATZI is that how you say it? Yes?
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Speaker 1: Crazy subverted. Yeah, they reached a tentative deal Saturday night.
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Speaker 1: It's a true Hallmark ending.
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Speaker 2: I read that as well, and I hope that the
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Speaker 2: IPTO members got the deal that they were hoping for.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet Hamewark was sweating it, like we read
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Speaker 1: we announced forty forty one movies. Whatever it is.
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Speaker 2: Like, you know, there's a way around this, Hallmark, and
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Speaker 2: that's to not create your movies weeks before they debut.
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Speaker 1: Do not put the cart in front of the horse. Geez, Louise.
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Speaker 2: We also have Brooks Darnell in this movie. He was
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Speaker 2: in a winter getaway. All I have to say is
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Speaker 2: welcome Back? Well, that movie was awful, right a Winner
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Speaker 2: get Away? We did not like it?
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Speaker 1: Right, I enjoyed him though, I enjoy him a lot,
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Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed him in this movie too. Except
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Speaker 1: I hated this movie spoiler alert. Oh so that's your
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Speaker 1: first impression. Uh, snoozer, snoozer all around, so hard to watch.
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Speaker 1: I hated it.
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Speaker 2: I also found this boring, but I mostly thought it
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Speaker 2: was a fine movie with just whisper of fall, just
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Speaker 2: the faintest.
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Speaker 1: Like ugh whiff of fall. Okay, but did you like
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Speaker 1: this movie better than South Speech Love Go one billion person?
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Speaker 2: God?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I couldn't stand it. I couldn't. I hate
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Speaker 1: it is so much.
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Speaker 2: Neither were good, neither are rewatchable. But this was a
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Speaker 2: perfectly serviceable. On in the background movie where a South
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Speaker 2: Beach Love I found irritating. Whoops, No, what did you
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Speaker 2: like about this movie?
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Speaker 1: I only liked Brooks therenell is that what? That's it?
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Speaker 1: That's that's it. Yeah. I thought he's like smooth and charmie.
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Speaker 1: He's got a great smile, he's better writing. This movie
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Speaker 1: just was like they were just like wah wah wah
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Speaker 1: wahh it just no, I hated it.
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Speaker 2: Is there something to be said that maybe Homewark doesn't
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Speaker 2: need to be making eighty I don't know what their
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Speaker 2: number is, seventy original movies every single year.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was gonna say. Less is more, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna say you're gonna make Fall Harvest, is
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Speaker 1: gonna be your lineup? Put some freaking fall movies in it.
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Speaker 1: We have talked about it for six weeks. Here, give
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Speaker 1: me two or three, Like, I don't care if there's
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Speaker 1: two or three movies and your Fall Harvest lineup, don't
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Speaker 1: load it with movies that don't fall into that theme.
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Speaker 1: And don't load it with movies that are like perfectly
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Speaker 1: fine standalone movies. They don't need to fall in some
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Speaker 1: sort of you know, themed lineup. But how will they.
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Speaker 2: Create a checklist with them on their app.
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Speaker 1: Well, somebody is doing them a disservice. I think m hm.
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Speaker 1: I just think less is more is what I've learned
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Speaker 1: this year is less is more.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, so since you have nothing else, I will say
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Speaker 2: that the first thing on my list of likes was
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Speaker 2: Brooks starn All Enough said he was a highlight of
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Speaker 2: this movie. One other thing I liked is I think
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Speaker 2: air Westbrook plays the buttoned up and buy the book
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Speaker 2: Kendall very well. I think she was very believable as
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Speaker 2: someone who believed in her checklist to finding true love.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: The final thing that I liked was Joy's artwork. And
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Speaker 2: I tried to do some research to for who is
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Speaker 2: the artist, and I could find nothing. If you know
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Speaker 2: who the artist who created the artwork in this movie.
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Speaker 1: Please let us know.
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Speaker 2: I could not find any information about it. And I'm
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Speaker 2: a pretty good googler, but.
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Speaker 1: I noticed that too, especially the ones in her office
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Speaker 1: right right, And they were great and in Kendall's home.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I think her office was inside
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Speaker 1: her home. I think you're right. Yes, I thought they
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Speaker 1: were great. Yeah, that's so funny. You can't find any
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Speaker 1: information on.
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Speaker 2: That, huh No, So if you know anything, please let
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Speaker 2: me know. I'd love to know more about that artist.
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Speaker 1: I do remember noticing that, right do you guys? Sneeze? Oh, yes,
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Speaker 1: there it is. So I'll tell you what I wished
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Speaker 1: for a better script. I just thought the writing was
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Speaker 1: so poor in this like it this okay, Yes, you
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Speaker 1: have opposites attract. That's basically what we're working with here, right.
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Speaker 1: I thought Kendall's character was super robotic and stiff, like
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Speaker 1: there was like nothing I liked about her, Like I
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Speaker 1: didn't find her warm, I didn't find her compatible to Nathan.
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Speaker 1: I just she was so buttoned up. You're right, she
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Speaker 1: was so buttoned up. And and her outfits. Why did
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Speaker 1: they dress her in these suits like she's a young
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Speaker 1: professional writer. Why is she dressed like she's going to
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Speaker 1: like a business meeting all the time? Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I wish that there had been some affection between the leads.
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Speaker 1: They are actively dating.
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Speaker 2: They don't hold hands now, you're like brush shoulders. They're
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Speaker 2: not like sitting closely and like, oh, tuck a hair
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Speaker 2: behind the ear. We can still be at the hallmark
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Speaker 2: standard of affection and show. I needed some heat from
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Speaker 2: these two, and I got nothing. We got a tiny kiss.
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Speaker 1: At the end.
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Speaker 2: But this is not one of those movies where it's
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Speaker 2: enemies to lovers, where they hate each other the entire
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Speaker 2: time and then they fall in love in the last
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Speaker 2: forty seconds of the movie. They are actively dating. Throughout
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Speaker 2: the movie. They have conversations about, Oh, I really like you.
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Speaker 2: I think this could go somewhere. Let me be honest
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Speaker 2: with you about this thing, because I enjoy spending time
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Speaker 2: with you.
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Speaker 1: Yes, stop telling me and show me right. Yeah, A little.
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Speaker 2: Hug, a little kiss on the cheek for greeting.
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Speaker 1: We can nothing, I know, I know. Why do you
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Speaker 1: think that is? It can't be COVID direction. It can't
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Speaker 1: be COVID.
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Speaker 2: They're all vaccinated. It can't be COVID. There's no difference
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Speaker 2: between sitting next to someone all day long. No, they're
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Speaker 2: unmasked on set. I read something else that everybody on
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Speaker 2: this production was vaccinated. That could be untrue, but regardless,
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Speaker 2: I don't see a difference in walking side by side
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Speaker 2: and sharing.
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Speaker 1: A little affection.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree at some point, I don't think
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Speaker 2: it's a COVID thing. Yeah, I just they had zero
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Speaker 2: chemistry together and maybe it is just bad direction.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I needed to say that. I don't know, but.
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Speaker 2: I thought Brooks Darnell brought the heat. There were a
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Speaker 2: couple moments where he's like given her those smoldering eyes,
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Speaker 2: but there was no reciprocation and there was no attempt,
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Speaker 2: as far as I could tell, to make it seem
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Speaker 2: like these were two people who were flirting with each
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Speaker 2: other and enjoying getting to know each other, and they
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Speaker 2: went on multiple dates together.
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Speaker 1: He's buying her flowers, give me more. Yeah, I absolutely agree.
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Speaker 1: And you know I was wondering too, like what was
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Speaker 1: this a director choice or an actor choice for her?
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Speaker 1: For what's her name.
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Speaker 2: Again, Caggie Kindle, Maggie, Uh think you said the same thing.
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Speaker 1: I know the actress this week, Maggie. Okay, her name Sarah.
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Speaker 1: I just think that, like, why was she so like
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Speaker 1: just stiff, Like I have a hard time believing that
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Speaker 1: this woman who wrote two books about how to find
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Speaker 1: love is not lovable? She's so okay.
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Speaker 2: Franny's strategy for finding love is I'm going to do
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Speaker 2: all the right things to create chemistry. That's a direct
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Speaker 2: quote from the movie. Her strategy. She had a board
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Speaker 2: like she was trying to catch a serial killer in
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Speaker 2: terms of how she was going to make this relationship work.
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Speaker 2: She was not supposed to be charming and lovable because
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Speaker 2: her strategy is check, check, check, check, look deeply into
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Speaker 2: his eyes, do the things that he likes to do. Like,
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Speaker 2: I hated her method for finding love. And when her
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Speaker 2: sister is in a relationship and she was like it
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Speaker 2: was love first sight and she's like, yeah, that doesn't exist.
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Speaker 1: That's not for you to say totally so, but okay,
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Speaker 1: this is reminding me of like, what's the you know,
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Speaker 1: was there a book about like the Rules to Dating
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Speaker 1: or some crap like that. Yeah, from the Rules? Is
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Speaker 1: that what it's called the Rules? Like in the early
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Speaker 1: two thousands? Like, is that like a riff of this?
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Speaker 1: Is this movie like a riff of that? Hold on
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Speaker 1: the I don't think The Rules is early two thousands?
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Speaker 2: Hold on, is it nineties? The Rules is nineteen ninety five?
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, time tested secrets for capturing the heart of
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Speaker 2: mister Wright. But The Rules is less about how to
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Speaker 2: fall in love and more finding mister Wright how to
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Speaker 2: make him love you, which I think are very different things.
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Speaker 2: Because Kendall in this movie is trying to manufacture chemistry
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Speaker 2: by doing all of these things. She's not trying to
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Speaker 2: get him to fall in love with her. She's trying
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Speaker 2: to create a love connection by following a formula, which
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Speaker 2: is not.
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Speaker 1: Really how it works. I mean, feel free to disagree
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Speaker 1: with me, don't disagree with you at all.
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I could see this being a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a riff on the rules. But the rules is
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Speaker 2: more like d's and don't like you know, I don't
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Speaker 2: have any idea of the content of it. But it's
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Speaker 2: more like don't you don't initiate contact or wait for
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Speaker 2: him to call you, or yeah, don't talk to a
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Speaker 2: man first, don't meet him halfway, or go dutch on
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Speaker 2: a date, don't call him and rarely return his calls.
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Speaker 2: The rules isn't about manufacturing chemistry. The rules is about like,
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Speaker 2: how do I keep him wanting more?
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Speaker 1: Oh?
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Speaker 2: All right, well but nice callback? Okay, you five? Man?
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Speaker 1: I know, like that was you know, twenty So maybe
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Speaker 1: I was a sophomore in high school. Well I'm just saying, like, man,
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Speaker 1: I was trying to land somebody. So maybe that's why
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Speaker 1: it's like sticking in my brain. I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I did. I did meet my future husband
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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six, so but I did.
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Speaker 2: Not bobby him halfway or go down to on a date.
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Speaker 1: I don't remember, rarely returned his phone calls. That was
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Speaker 1: a long time ago, so I don't really remember. You
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Speaker 1: should ask him. I don't remember. You think he's gonna remember?
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Speaker 1: Come on, now, come on, now, can we move on
20:41
Speaker 1: to did you see that? Please? I only have one. Okay,
20:47
Speaker 1: book salad? Is that the stupidest name for a book store?
20:54
Speaker 2: I couldn't even make it make sense?
20:56
Speaker 1: No, because in Los Angeles there is a famous bookstore
20:59
Speaker 1: called book Soup, right, And I was like, okay, is
21:02
Speaker 1: this is this like some play on that, but books salad?
21:06
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand book soup either, Like I don't
21:08
Speaker 1: know the origin of that story, but I don't understand
21:12
Speaker 1: book salad even more. Yes, I thought it was a
21:15
Speaker 1: dumb name. We could do better. Hold on, I mean,
21:18
Speaker 1: is there because salads are full of variety and that
21:23
Speaker 1: bookstore it's full of book for you know, a variety
21:27
Speaker 1: of books. I don't know. Okay, I hear you. I
21:32
Speaker 1: don't know. I thought it was stupid. And they even
21:34
Speaker 1: said he's like booksell a great name, terrible name.
21:39
Speaker 2: Okay, IMDb is getting on the digits that stop it.
21:44
Speaker 1: They had a are they giving us credit via section.
21:48
Speaker 2: That says the married couple in the coffee shop is
21:52
Speaker 2: an actual married couple?
21:55
Speaker 1: Big effing deal. I'm on, so one bit of trivia
21:59
Speaker 1: they got, that's it? Well, I guess some more trivia.
22:02
Speaker 1: The dude that played Grant. This is like her friend,
22:05
Speaker 1: the owner of the bookstore. Uh huh oh. Yeah. He
22:09
Speaker 1: was also in Raise a Glass to Love from the
22:12
Speaker 1: Hall from the Fall, from the Fall movies. My boyfriend,
22:18
Speaker 1: his name was Aiden, I don't remember. That's her boyfriend,
22:22
Speaker 1: the chef guy that she was pissed off about her Okay, yeah,
22:27
Speaker 1: and he was also in Don't Go Break in My Heart,
22:30
Speaker 1: which was also from twenty twenty one previously. Yeah. He's
22:34
Speaker 1: you know, he's one of those he's one of those guys.
22:37
Speaker 2: I think, busy supporting, actoring.
22:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was pleased to say that I did
22:44
Speaker 2: spy Fall in this movie at the farmer's market. Look,
22:48
Speaker 2: at the very least we knew this was not summer.
22:50
Speaker 2: They were wearing long sleeves. There's some outdoor scenes that
22:53
Speaker 2: feel fall like, there's no actual fall content, but they
22:58
Speaker 2: do go to a farmer's market, and in the background
23:00
Speaker 2: of the farmer's market there's kind of a small motif
23:03
Speaker 2: that has some like pumpkins and.
23:05
Speaker 1: Leaves set up.
23:06
Speaker 2: So at least we had that moment going for us.
23:11
Speaker 1: They tried real hard.
23:13
Speaker 2: This is barely a Fall movie, but at least it
23:15
Speaker 2: is not blatantly a summer movie, right, So.
23:19
Speaker 1: I appreciated that it still didn't do it for me
23:21
Speaker 1: in terms of, like I really wanted, like Fall. Everything
23:27
Speaker 1: like this, the Fall lineup makes me want to watch Christmas.
23:31
Speaker 2: Movies, right, because there's yes, because you know, Christmas movies
23:35
Speaker 2: are gonna go hard on all the Christmas motifs. Right,
23:39
Speaker 2: as we've said, we will likely be very tired of
23:42
Speaker 2: some of those things early on, But I, as of
23:45
Speaker 2: this moment today, I'm very ready for it. In the
23:48
Speaker 2: opening scene where Kendall is being interviewed on television and
23:51
Speaker 2: she on the fly sets up audience members Jill and Mitchell,
23:55
Speaker 2: very risky move because she does not know who they are,
23:58
Speaker 2: and she finds Jill, well, what if Mitchell's a seventy seven.
24:01
Speaker 1: Year old dude? Like they could have been very much
24:05
Speaker 1: of a mismatch. How did she know?
24:08
Speaker 2: Also, zero chance I would have gone out on the
24:11
Speaker 2: date with the stranger from the audience.
24:13
Speaker 1: But no, have you ever heard of the dating game killer? No?
24:17
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, I actually haven't. But what not? No, that's
24:25
Speaker 1: terrifying to me. I'll leave a link in her show notes.
24:28
Speaker 2: Not going to do that, but hey, they found true love, so.
24:31
Speaker 1: Well you know then maybe that was that Patti Stanger
24:33
Speaker 1: influence was like this could work. I've done this. I
24:38
Speaker 1: don't know.
24:38
Speaker 2: You know, there was some confusion for me because she
24:43
Speaker 2: writes these books about how to find love right, But
24:46
Speaker 2: then all of her friends.
24:47
Speaker 1: Are like, can you set me up? Can you set
24:49
Speaker 1: me up?
24:50
Speaker 2: Is someone who writes books about their fine love? Is
24:52
Speaker 2: she the same thing as a matchmaker? Is that the
24:54
Speaker 2: same thing?
24:55
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't either. My other question
24:59
Speaker 1: is her editor, yeah, that woman? Yeah?
25:02
Speaker 2: Can someone please in the book industry, My understanding is
25:06
Speaker 2: that your editor, this woman was acting like her agent
25:09
Speaker 2: or her publicist. I feel like they needed to give
25:13
Speaker 2: her a better title because it really chopped my high
25:17
Speaker 2: that they kept calling her her editor. Her editor is
25:19
Speaker 2: not involved in the creation of her next book. Her
25:23
Speaker 2: editor is not involved in selling that book to the
25:25
Speaker 2: marketing department. Her editor is not showing up at her events.
25:27
Speaker 2: These are the work of your publicist or your agent.
25:30
Speaker 2: Please give her a better title.
25:31
Speaker 1: Please.
25:32
Speaker 2: Someone in these movies have any knowledge of how the
25:34
Speaker 2: book industry was because she called her her editor eight
25:37
Speaker 2: hundred times and it didn't work for me.
25:40
Speaker 1: Okay, did you notice like her whiteboard in her office
25:44
Speaker 1: where it was like next book ideas, she would have
25:49
Speaker 1: them written down on there. Did you notice that at all?
25:51
Speaker 2: Okay, I did notice that, but her white point in
25:54
Speaker 2: her office when she gets angry, she finds out that
25:59
Speaker 2: Nathan has been not telling the truth about being mister Gabby. Yeah,
26:05
Speaker 2: and she comes back and she angrily tries to erase
26:08
Speaker 2: the whiteboard, but things have been written on the whiteboard
26:10
Speaker 2: for so long that they won't erase, and so she
26:13
Speaker 2: doesn't get that moment. I just love that she just
26:16
Speaker 2: like scrubs at it and nothing goes away. And I
26:19
Speaker 2: just you know, they can't do that scene twice because
26:24
Speaker 2: it's been like a progressive crossing out and you know, they.
26:26
Speaker 1: Haven't been rewriting it. Why would you.
26:28
Speaker 2: But I don't think they had prepared for the fact that, oh,
26:30
Speaker 2: if these things stay on the whiteboard for two weeks,
26:32
Speaker 2: they're not.
26:33
Speaker 1: Gonna come off very easily.
26:35
Speaker 2: And it doesn't quite have the same ooph as coming
26:38
Speaker 2: at it with a little clean spray and a paper down.
26:42
Speaker 2: I just imagine the production team like, good enough, she
26:48
Speaker 2: kind of smeared it.
26:49
Speaker 1: Around a little bit. That'll do. Oh my god, I
26:52
Speaker 1: wish we had a podcast called good Enough. That is
27:00
Speaker 1: so funny. I didn't really notice that, but that thank
27:04
Speaker 1: you for pointing that out. That is so funny. That
27:08
Speaker 1: made me laugh. Yeah, do you have more? Did you
27:10
Speaker 1: see that?
27:11
Speaker 2: No?
27:11
Speaker 1: But I have a interesting review on IMDb that I
27:16
Speaker 1: want to just run way wait wait wait wait? Is
27:19
Speaker 1: it the one that asks for American values? Yes?
27:22
Speaker 2: It is. Okay, read it and it's so funny. Read it,
27:28
Speaker 2: and then I have some commentary about it.
27:31
Speaker 1: Okay, all right. It is titled another Hallmark Media flop.
27:37
Speaker 1: This movie is straight out of the high volume movie factory,
27:40
Speaker 1: which I note I kind of agree. No thought or
27:42
Speaker 1: creativity in the storyline, no personal on screen connection between actors.
27:48
Speaker 1: They simply recite memorize lines. This could be broadcast on
27:52
Speaker 1: Lifetime Movie channel, how dare you CBS or any broadcast
27:57
Speaker 1: channel simply by changing the title screens. The core problem
28:02
Speaker 1: of Hallmark Media today is their senior leadership lacks leadership,
28:08
Speaker 1: a sense of Hallmark culture, and a respect for American values.
28:15
Speaker 2: Okay, what, First of all, what's an American value? No
28:20
Speaker 2: such thing, Like, I know, lots of different people.
28:23
Speaker 1: Lots of different values. But the thing about this review that.
28:26
Speaker 2: Got me is it's broken into two paragraphs visually, and
28:30
Speaker 2: the first paragraph is what you read, how about it's
28:33
Speaker 2: a poorly produced movie. We have talked earlier in this
28:38
Speaker 2: about perhaps Hallmark needs to focus on the less is
28:41
Speaker 2: More philosophy. I agreed with that, but the second I
28:44
Speaker 2: read the focus on American values. First of all, I
28:47
Speaker 2: don't know in what way this movie violates someone's sense
28:50
Speaker 2: of American values. We know, people get really up in
28:52
Speaker 2: arms when there's the same sex couple in a Hallmark movie. Right,
28:57
Speaker 2: perhaps the leads weren't white, so all of a sudden,
28:59
Speaker 2: that's their issue.
29:00
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think that's the issue? I
29:04
Speaker 1: mean that feels like a big yellow arrow pointing to it.
29:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, like their Karen on a giant I'm a racist sign.
29:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, because somebody else could possibly be offensive about this movie.
29:15
Speaker 1: It's offensively boring.
29:17
Speaker 2: But other than that, so I could not bring myself
29:22
Speaker 2: to agree with the first part of their comment because
29:24
Speaker 2: the second part of their comment calls them out as
29:26
Speaker 2: being a terrible human being.
29:27
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, like I said, less is More.
29:31
Speaker 1: That's why I think I do agree with this straight
29:33
Speaker 1: out of the high volume movie factory. But all everything
29:36
Speaker 1: else is terrible. Like and it goes back to because
29:42
Speaker 1: we talked about Hallmark did have some senior leadership who
29:46
Speaker 1: was ousted, right, and now he is the head of GHAK.
29:53
Speaker 1: Is that correct? So this person is unhappy with the
29:57
Speaker 1: current leadership at Hallmark. But what does it mean a
30:01
Speaker 1: sense of Hallmark culture? I don't know. I don't know
30:07
Speaker 1: what that means. I'm just gonna click on this person
30:10
Speaker 1: because I like to see what else that they are.
30:11
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow, they've done a lot of movies from
30:17
Speaker 1: fall lineup. They hated South Beach Love. Oh but here,
30:23
Speaker 1: this is funny. There have been so many Hallmark movie
30:26
Speaker 1: flops in the last eighteen months. I believe the only
30:28
Speaker 1: way to fix the problem is a wholesale clean out
30:32
Speaker 1: of Hallmark Media's executive suite. Oh. Interesting, This person is
30:37
Speaker 1: just not happy that Hallmark is taking baby steps in
30:42
Speaker 1: diversifying their actors and lineups and storylines and so on
30:47
Speaker 1: and so forth.
30:48
Speaker 2: Right, I hate to break it to this person, but
30:50
Speaker 2: Hallmark is trying to make their lineup look a little
30:52
Speaker 2: bit more like the actual America than the Hallmark America, light,
30:58
Speaker 2: straight Christian America that they would like to live in.
31:00
Speaker 1: Right right, Oh, my gosh, there's a lot of bad
31:04
Speaker 1: reviews in the photos. It's like the cast is made
31:12
Speaker 1: up of people of color. Several movies in the movie
31:17
Speaker 1: A Christmas House that is a same sex storyline? Is
31:20
Speaker 1: it not? It has the same sex storyline? Yep, hated
31:23
Speaker 1: that movie. They said, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's just like,
31:28
Speaker 1: you know, putting their racism all over IMDb.
31:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, so racism is showing and your homophobia and yeah,
31:37
Speaker 2: you're a garbage person.
31:39
Speaker 1: Totally.
31:41
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, you know what's not garbage? Christmas starts Friday.
31:49
Speaker 2: That's tomorrow, Tomorrow, October twenty second.
31:53
Speaker 1: Hey, hot tip too. I have already set my DVR
31:57
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32:02
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32:07
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32:09
Speaker 1: for me, Yes, five pm.
32:10
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32:50
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