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Jaguars Reporters: Monday, April 12 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure that whoever our guys are that
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Speaker 1: we're getting that we'll put them in the best place,
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Speaker 1: you know, position to be successful. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters
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Speaker 1: presented by t I a A Bank with Brian Sexton,
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Speaker 1: John Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan, and J. P. Shadrick. Presented by
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Speaker 1: t I A A Bank starts right now. Welcome in
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters podcasts Ashland Sullivan, J P. Shadrick and John
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Speaker 1: Osier here with you this week a couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: before the NFL Draft, gearing up for that, and that
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Speaker 1: is our big focus. So I won't lie to you guys,
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Speaker 1: and I was building Jaguars this week. Don't talking points
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Speaker 1: this week. It's all draft right now. It's the calm
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Speaker 1: before the storms, we said last week, but it's kind
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Speaker 1: of the same thing this week too. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: there's a few players around and doing their own thing,
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Speaker 1: and then like the official offseason program starts. What nets
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Speaker 1: really not a lot happening right now. It's but there
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Speaker 1: will be very soon. John Well, we got thrown a
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Speaker 1: curve all a little bit. This was supposed to be
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Speaker 1: week two of the first phase, and I think we
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Speaker 1: sort of expected some access points and to talk to
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Speaker 1: some players in intro type stuff, and your Frank, I
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Speaker 1: keep going back to it. That's what it should be
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Speaker 1: for new coaches, teams that change regimes. That's why the
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Speaker 1: calendar feels like there's a little bit of a lag.
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Speaker 1: It's normally we would have probably talked to coach Meyer
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Speaker 1: on the Tuesday or somebody with a voice with the team,
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Speaker 1: and then you know, the quarterback or whoever their leaders are.
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Speaker 1: So it sort of feels like that. And again I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that the coaches and the people who were getting
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Speaker 1: who when you get this thing going, I feel like
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Speaker 1: that too. So it is a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: roll right now. Yeah, I can imagine it's a bit
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Speaker 1: of an annoyance to not have this going right now.
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Speaker 1: And that leads us into one of the talking points,
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Speaker 1: which is the virtual programs start on Monday the nineteen.
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Speaker 1: What does that look like. We're not quite sure. We
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Speaker 1: saw what it was last season, and I think we
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Speaker 1: all agree it probably will be a little bit of
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Speaker 1: that until hopefully something changes where these guys can get
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Speaker 1: on the field, maybe after the draft early May, but
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Speaker 1: as of now, it's it's more teams meetings and trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out. But it seems like coach Meyer is
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Speaker 1: going to address his full team on Microsoft. Yeah. I
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Speaker 1: mean it feels like to me, this is you know,
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Speaker 1: you can get in and work out. It's still voluntary.
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Speaker 1: We get that part. But if there are meetings, and
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Speaker 1: there probably will be if it's Phase one, at some
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Speaker 1: point it will be virtual. And I'm just I'm sure
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Speaker 1: Urban it's just just glad to have something coming up.
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Speaker 1: He I'm sure he has been chopping at the bit
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Speaker 1: just to get in front of the team and get
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Speaker 1: that message across. He's been crafting it and getting it
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Speaker 1: ready to go. We've heard some of it in some
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Speaker 1: public up here in things that he's done here. But
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Speaker 1: you know, he's he can be really good in front
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Speaker 1: of a football team, but he hasn't been in front
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Speaker 1: of the football team yet. He's been here since January
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Speaker 1: so far, and maybe wrong in this this feels like
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Speaker 1: last year in terms of they'll be able to meet virtually.
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Speaker 1: It's not last year in the sense that the players
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Speaker 1: can be in the building and they're working out, which
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Speaker 1: they couldn't do last year. It's also not like it's
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Speaker 1: also last year in the sense that they're not on
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Speaker 1: the field yet, but they wouldn't be anyway. They wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be practicing in this in this phase two. And then
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Speaker 1: there's a I mean, I'm sorry, in this phase one,
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Speaker 1: and then there's a phase two where they can do
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Speaker 1: one on one in a normal off season, where they
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Speaker 1: can do one on one where they can be on
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Speaker 1: the field, but it's not O T A S like
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Speaker 1: we think of them, you know, And just to clarify
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Speaker 1: it for people, they wouldn't be in O T A
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Speaker 1: S yet anyway. They wouldn't be practicing. This wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: that pseudo training camp thing. My understanding and expectation is
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Speaker 1: they will get that. What I want or and what
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Speaker 1: I think will continue to be frustrating for a coach
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Speaker 1: who wants to build culture, camaraderie, whatever you call it. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, he calls it culture, and I know he
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Speaker 1: wants these players together in groups where he can talk
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Speaker 1: to them and start getting a feel for them. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to get that for a while,
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Speaker 1: so have created virtually Yeah, and frankly, there's probably a
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Speaker 1: handful of players, if not more, that he probably hasn't
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Speaker 1: met face to face to face yet, and that's gonna
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Speaker 1: be incredibly frustrating for a new head coach who started
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Speaker 1: late January and it's now almost middle of April, because
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Speaker 1: some guys might not be in town, they might be
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Speaker 1: elsewhere and just haven't been around, or that's just the
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Speaker 1: nature of the NFL in the off season. But even
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Speaker 1: the ones that he has met face to face, I
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Speaker 1: in listening to him talk about this, there's just that
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Speaker 1: you can't go down and hang out in your assistant
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Speaker 1: coaches office for twenty five minutes talking ball, and that's
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Speaker 1: what drives them up the wall. And it should because
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Speaker 1: that's where you know, he talked at the very beginning,
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Speaker 1: and it was in January about in college you can
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Speaker 1: get with the quarterback for these two months, and he said,
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Speaker 1: that's really where you develop a quarterback in college is
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Speaker 1: during those two months right after a season. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: it applies to other positions a the quarterback. I don't
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Speaker 1: think it's that big a deal this year because the
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Speaker 1: quarterback wasn't gonna be here anyway, but not being able
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Speaker 1: to have that hands on it is. It is an
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Speaker 1: adjustment for anybody who's not in the NFL because intrinsically.
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Speaker 1: I always get questions about this, Well, if a player
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Speaker 1: wants to, can he not come in and go down
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Speaker 1: and talk to the linebackers coach about what he did
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Speaker 1: or didn't do last year? Well technically not really very much,
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Speaker 1: you know. So that's really sort of weird and not fair.
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Speaker 1: But it's put in to protect coaches and players from
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Speaker 1: this set from themselves, so to speak. It's going to
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Speaker 1: continue to be weird until we get some answers. So
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Speaker 1: let's we know the personalities of some of these guys.
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Speaker 1: There's never stops churning above the shoulders for a lot
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Speaker 1: of these football minds in here, right, And so if
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Speaker 1: there's not that rule in place, Ashvin, you know, there's
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Speaker 1: there's no there's no offseason at all. None. And that's
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Speaker 1: why the players need it, and that's why the coaches
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Speaker 1: needed to. You know, you have to you have to
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Speaker 1: have that implemented or some organizations will never let off
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Speaker 1: the gas. Yeah, and it is promising. I will say,
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Speaker 1: we've we've been in this building and we've seen guys
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Speaker 1: like d J. Chark, Josh Allen, a bunch of the
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. You're almost every single day taking advantage of
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Speaker 1: being able to come in for that workout wasn't the
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Speaker 1: case last year. So promising to see that you're at
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Speaker 1: least getting that all right, Jake, SAT's get in the
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Speaker 1: big things. That's me. Let me, let's get started. Hey,
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Speaker 1: the draft party has been announced finally Thursday. It's Flenn Show,
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Speaker 1: is what it's gonna be. She's going to be fantastic
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Speaker 1: out on the stage inside t I A bank Field
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Speaker 1: and it's the travel Camp r V Duval Draft twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty one. And you know what, it's it's great to
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Speaker 1: have people back in the building again. We had some
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Speaker 1: people here for the season last year, but it's been
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Speaker 1: a little while so and it's going to be a
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Speaker 1: night to remember. I mean, it's Trevor Lawrence for most
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Speaker 1: likely coming in as a number one pick, and another
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Speaker 1: first round pick later in the night. That's a long
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Speaker 1: evening inside t I A bank Field. But it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be one of those where I think you really want
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Speaker 1: to be here for it because it's one of those
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Speaker 1: milestone moments. Really, it could be Enfranchise history that you'll
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Speaker 1: remember and you'll say, hey, I was there the night
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence or whoever the first pick is was drafted.
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Speaker 1: So that's my big thing. Number One. I'm fired up
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Speaker 1: Shelln about this. I'm excited to I think you can
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Speaker 1: expect a big crowd in one because of the Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence thing, but there just hasn't been a sports event
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville in so long. And even if you're not
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Speaker 1: the biggest jog horspan, just be able to come and
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Speaker 1: be impete in person with people, I think it's a
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Speaker 1: huge deal. I can remember, JP, I think you were there.
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Speaker 1: If you weren't there, you were certainly in the building.
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Speaker 1: But I can remember when they picked Jalen Ramsey, remember
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Speaker 1: the yeah yeah and until the back injuries put him back.
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Speaker 1: But we were sitting out about twenty ft away from
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Speaker 1: here by the coaches UH offices, and we had an
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Speaker 1: impromptu set up for Jaguars dot Com. UH. I think
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Speaker 1: you were probably doing radio. I don't know. I was
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Speaker 1: probably here, I don't know, But where were you, JP?
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Speaker 1: You even but the roar from the crowd when they
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Speaker 1: picked Jalen Ramsey, which was a big deal Florida state guy,
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Speaker 1: but he was a cornerback and I can't imagine what
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Speaker 1: the roar, what the g level would be when they
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Speaker 1: pick whoever quarterback they're gonna pick um, it'll be Uh.
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Speaker 1: I would expect the most exciting event outside of I
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Speaker 1: was setting football event outside of a game day. Uh,
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Speaker 1: in Jaguar's history. I can't imagine that in this franchise history. Yes. Well,
9:22
Speaker 1: even I was talking to the Action Sports Jacks guys
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Speaker 1: over the weekend when we were talking about even when
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen was picked, what a huge deal that was.
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Speaker 1: Because the Raiders were before and you thought, oh, well
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Speaker 1: they're going to take the tight end out of Iowa T. J.
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Speaker 1: Hawkinson's We'll be ready for that. There's no chance. And
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Speaker 1: when the Raiders passed on Josh Allen, there was like
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Speaker 1: this hush of the crowd thinking is this actually going
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Speaker 1: to happen? And it was a huge moment, like incredibly
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Speaker 1: loud at Daily's place. And but realistically there's probably the
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Speaker 1: crowd didn't know who Josh Allen was, right, but the
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Speaker 1: hardcore football thing thinking this is actually gonna happen. Everybody
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Speaker 1: in that crowd is gonna and that's just you know,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be an energy, no doubt, Yes it will.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to defense. John Oser yeah, and
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm still a bit lost in the wood. I
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Speaker 1: talked to Joe Colin last week, so I'm kind of
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Speaker 1: excited about it. But he's the guy that can get
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Speaker 1: you excited. Yeah, the the U all off season, j
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Speaker 1: P and Schlan. All I hear about is the defensive scheme.
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Speaker 1: What they're gonna play. Is it gonna be three four?
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Speaker 1: Is it gonna be four three? And I've been hearing
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Speaker 1: it for three or four years because everybody hated Todd Wash.
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Speaker 1: They didn't want the four three. All the fans were
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Speaker 1: tired of it. So there's this magic to the three four. Oh,
10:38
Speaker 1: we gotta go to three four. Well, I talked to
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Speaker 1: Joe and I said, Joe, that's his name. I said, Joe, Um,
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Speaker 1: what is this defense gonna look like? How do you
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Speaker 1: describe it? And for all the people who think that
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Speaker 1: when I answered these questions that I'm trying to dodge
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Speaker 1: whether it's going to be a three four or four
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Speaker 1: three or or or whether they're trying to dodge it,
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Speaker 1: it's not. It's going to have base elements of the
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Speaker 1: three four. But he said the reality is it's going
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Speaker 1: to it does not fit in either a three four
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Speaker 1: or four three. It has different looks based on the
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Speaker 1: personnel on the field and based on what the other
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Speaker 1: team is doing. When they play the Tennessee Titans, it's
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Speaker 1: gonna have a different look. Then when they play a
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Speaker 1: spread offense, it's gonna have different personnel. It may look
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Speaker 1: more like a four three, it may look more it's
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Speaker 1: gonna look different in the back. So, uh, I don't
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Speaker 1: understand why we just can't call it a hybrid. Hybrid
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Speaker 1: is what it is, right, but Joe said it was
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Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear it though. It's like you just
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Speaker 1: don't know yet. That's why you're calling it. On Madden
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Speaker 1: you can click three four defense or four three defense
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Speaker 1: with the square button PlayStation. I don't know. I'm just saying, like,
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Speaker 1: that's right, it's that simple. On that it's not that simple.
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Speaker 1: And their base defense probably has the more more of
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Speaker 1: a three or four element. But he said, there's gonna
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Speaker 1: be times where their base defense looks like a fourth three.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna have that look. Put the best
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Speaker 1: players on the field. And I said, so we can't
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Speaker 1: go back to the curly culp days where there's a
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Speaker 1: straight nose four linebackers and Robert Razil's on the outside,
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Speaker 1: and that's a that's an old Houston oilers references in
12:32
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers and so it's in the old days. This worked.
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Speaker 1: In the old days, you played a three four defense
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Speaker 1: and in past situations, you brought in one nickel corner
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Speaker 1: and you pulled out one linebacker for him, and that
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Speaker 1: was your entire defense. There's so many packages now and
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Speaker 1: they have different packages the uh and and look seventy
13:02
Speaker 1: percent of the time you run a nickel anyway. The
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Speaker 1: interesting thing from my conversation with Joe Uh, he loves
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Speaker 1: Miles Jack now and every and why wouldn't you as
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Speaker 1: a football coach. But I've got a lot of questions
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Speaker 1: about where does he fit in this defense? And I
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Speaker 1: know had a couple of answers. He said, well, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna fit him, but he will. It will be exciting
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Speaker 1: to watch how they use Myles Jack because fear not
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Speaker 1: that he's gonna have a role in this thing. That's
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Speaker 1: my big thing that's exciting. It's Jo calling on the
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Speaker 1: ozone podcast. He's not Uh, at some point I hope
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Speaker 1: he will be. But this was more daved Candice and
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Speaker 1: I talked to him. Uh, David was talking to him
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Speaker 1: about the questions for video. I was able to sit
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Speaker 1: in and talk to him afterwards. So it'll be I
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Speaker 1: think JP is already read. I think not yet yet.
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Speaker 1: It'll be up in a little while and he's waiting.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the preview, though he say if he hasn't
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Speaker 1: read it, I guess that's not that good after all. Well,
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Speaker 1: speaking of the ozone podcast, I listened to offensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil's ozone podcast with Ozone himself, and what stood
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Speaker 1: out to me is all these connections with this team,
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Speaker 1: especially with the coaching staff, to head coach Urban Meyer.
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Speaker 1: I still find it really interesting that there's not a
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Speaker 1: connection there. And when coach Meyer said on the Hunts
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Speaker 1: that coach Bevel blew him away in his interviews and
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Speaker 1: that's the reason he got the job. He had other
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Speaker 1: guys in mind for this job, and he was that good.
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Speaker 1: It's promising for your offensive coordinator. But I just I
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Speaker 1: still find it so interesting that something that's high profile
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Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator has no connection to the head coach. Well,
14:53
Speaker 1: and I think it speaks to and intriguing things. You know,
14:57
Speaker 1: when you cover this league and you cover a team
15:03
Speaker 1: you learn a lot about the person coaching it, and
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Speaker 1: you can hear about a guy before he gets here.
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Speaker 1: And we had all heard different things about urban Meyer,
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Speaker 1: and there are our perceptions of them college coach. This
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Speaker 1: guy coming in, what he was, um what has struck
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Speaker 1: me and what struck me from the very beginning was
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Speaker 1: his what you heard and thought was that he was
15:28
Speaker 1: sort of a guy who was my way or the
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Speaker 1: highway and came in and I know what's best and
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it this way for better force. That
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Speaker 1: was sort of the thing. Well, that hasn't been the
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Speaker 1: impression I've gotten from listening to him at all. And
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Speaker 1: I think Bevil is a little bit of an example
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Speaker 1: of that. He didn't know bebel urban coach with a
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Speaker 1: lot of people. I'm sure there was somebody who could
15:53
Speaker 1: have coordinated his offense that he, you know, knew from
15:56
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago that he could have to pick
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Speaker 1: up the phone and said, hey, you're the guy. But
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Speaker 1: he said I wanted to hire the best guy, left
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Speaker 1: his mind open, and I think that speaks to what
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Speaker 1: he's done in a lot of cases when I've heard
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Speaker 1: about he wants to know what works right, is willing
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Speaker 1: to listen. Okay, well, we're gonna do this because this
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Speaker 1: is the best way to do it. It may not
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Speaker 1: be the way I've done. I may not know this person,
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Speaker 1: but so I think credit to him for that. And
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Speaker 1: I think there is a small connection between the two.
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Speaker 1: I want to say there's a brad Children's connection from
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Speaker 1: way back, and I could be wrong, and that Urban
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Speaker 1: learned a lot from brad Children's when he was young,
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Speaker 1: and I think Bebel did too. So I think there's
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Speaker 1: some foundation, a right, But I think somewhere the foundation
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Speaker 1: which in coaching, everybody has a connection somehow. But JP,
16:50
Speaker 1: I think it made sense. You know, there's there's a
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Speaker 1: mix on this coaching staff of guys that Urban new
16:55
Speaker 1: from the college days. Obviously Charlie Strong is one of
16:58
Speaker 1: those guys, you know, but he it felt like he
17:01
Speaker 1: really needed NFL veteran coaching experience. At the highest levels
17:06
Speaker 1: of the coaching staff, the guys who immediately report to
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Speaker 1: irban Meyer. Everybody reports to Urban, I get it. But
17:12
Speaker 1: the coordinators, especially Collins, been in the league forever. It's
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Speaker 1: his first chance to be a coordinator though, so you know,
17:19
Speaker 1: but he's getting that opportunity. Bevil has been in the
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Speaker 1: league for even longer as a position coach and a
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Speaker 1: coordinator and then the interim head coached last year in Detroit.
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Speaker 1: So having that, having the experience of working in the
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Speaker 1: NFL for this long, knowing how to approach players, knowing
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Speaker 1: how to present an offense or a defensive package to
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Speaker 1: a team, I think is key for Urban, not that
17:42
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to do that, but maybe it's
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Speaker 1: a different response in the NFL that he might be
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Speaker 1: expecting from the college day. So having that veteran NFL
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Speaker 1: experience at the coordinator level I think was important for Urban,
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Speaker 1: And that leads us right into did you hear this?
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Speaker 1: Speaking of the offensive coordinator he joined John Osier on
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Speaker 1: the podcasts, kind of have feelings of what he likes,
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Speaker 1: what he wants to do, where he's at UM. But
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Speaker 1: then you know, being able to blend I guess where
18:10
Speaker 1: Brian's been, where I've been UM and George has been.
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Speaker 1: I think just being able to blend all that together
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Speaker 1: to be able to come up with the best plan. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, and the plan starts one way, and then
18:21
Speaker 1: once you start getting the players and start you know,
18:23
Speaker 1: putting those players in and that play then then that
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Speaker 1: plan can morph, you know, and we're going to make
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Speaker 1: sure that whoever our guys are that we're getting that
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Speaker 1: we'll put them in the best place, you know, position
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Speaker 1: to be successful. But right now, you know what what
18:35
Speaker 1: is our core? What's our base? Where are we going
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Speaker 1: to start one day one when they walk in here,
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Speaker 1: and then the more we get to know him, then
18:41
Speaker 1: the more we'll we'll start to move around. So, like
18:43
Speaker 1: we said, all about connections, and he was talking about
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Speaker 1: how this is all going to work with blending all
18:48
Speaker 1: of these new coaches. But I like how he included
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Speaker 1: offensive line coach George warhoppin here, who's not the new guy,
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Speaker 1: but it's still somewhat new because he's around all these
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Speaker 1: new people. How is this going to work altogether having
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Speaker 1: one clear message which is very clear, it's very very
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Speaker 1: important to coach Meyer, one clear message of how this
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Speaker 1: is gonna work. Well, Bebel made it clear that Bevil, Schottenheimer,
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Speaker 1: warhop you know, and all the offensive coaches, but it
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Speaker 1: sounded like particularly those three have a huge voice and
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Speaker 1: how this is being installed. It's always fascinating to me,
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Speaker 1: and this is a little bit lost in the weeds.
19:24
Speaker 1: But as I was talking to Darryl. It always fascinates
19:27
Speaker 1: me when a new coordinator comes in. I would love
19:30
Speaker 1: once to sit in on meetings as you put together
19:37
Speaker 1: an offense. And he said, it's literally page by page
19:41
Speaker 1: where they go in they say, Okay, we're gonna do this,
19:45
Speaker 1: we're gonna huddle this way, we're going to have this,
19:48
Speaker 1: and okay, when we line up this way, what are
19:51
Speaker 1: we gonna name it? And Daryl said, there are some
19:55
Speaker 1: things when they were with the Seahawks because him and
19:56
Speaker 1: Brian Schotenheimer both worked for the Seahawks. Schottenheimer was the
20:00
Speaker 1: coordinator of the Seahawks after Bevil, so they used a
20:02
Speaker 1: lot of that that language. So he said, there will
20:05
Speaker 1: be some language like that, but this is also an opportunity.
20:09
Speaker 1: If they weren't comfortable with what something was called, they
20:12
Speaker 1: can change it. So they've been able to get some
20:15
Speaker 1: situations where they were calling one thing three words were
20:19
Speaker 1: now they're calling a one word. So just the way
20:21
Speaker 1: you name it, they're basically taking a bunch of different
20:25
Speaker 1: languages and making them one and making it. The Jaguars playbooks,
20:29
Speaker 1: everybody loves to talk about what they running the Seahawks
20:31
Speaker 1: offense or they're running the Minnesota Vikings offense. It really
20:34
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. There's always elements in every offense
20:38
Speaker 1: and that's how the league sort of evolves over time.
20:42
Speaker 1: So it's a fascinating time and just once, I'd love
20:45
Speaker 1: to see how those pages actually came. It's probably page
20:47
Speaker 1: anymoretional and it's probably you young kids use like power point,
20:52
Speaker 1: right and what. You can download that on the app store.
20:57
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just wait until what a quarterback
21:00
Speaker 1: is selected first overall shows up on site too, right,
21:04
Speaker 1: because he'll have a say in how things a little
21:07
Speaker 1: bit of a set, you know, because it's built around
21:09
Speaker 1: him and his strengths and what he can and can't
21:12
Speaker 1: communicate and and process and stink for them not knowing
21:16
Speaker 1: who the quarterbacks. I bet they have seven different offenses?
21:20
Speaker 1: Were all the seven different choices? Yeah, you mentioned Warhop
21:25
Speaker 1: and I didn't even think about this till the other day,
21:26
Speaker 1: but Warhop and Urban we're Cincinnati together. I mean, there
21:32
Speaker 1: was a couple of years difference in there, but that's
21:34
Speaker 1: their connection that goes way back. So you know, don't
21:37
Speaker 1: think it's oh he's the hold over, here's the new guy.
21:41
Speaker 1: Warhops and all those guys are are here for a
21:44
Speaker 1: reason because they understand how to get things going together
21:48
Speaker 1: on a new group. Yeah, who I think after talking
21:51
Speaker 1: with Cam Robinson and them keeping that group together, I
21:54
Speaker 1: thought it was so crucial to keep him, which warhop
21:56
Speaker 1: that was a no brainer. To have an incredible situation
21:59
Speaker 1: where the coach and the five offensive linemen are going
22:03
Speaker 1: into their fifth year. I mean, I'm sorry, their third
22:06
Speaker 1: years starting together now, so that's almost unheard of. It's
22:10
Speaker 1: it's a long time in the NFL, and you would
22:14
Speaker 1: hope that you see benefits of that continuity. And it's
22:18
Speaker 1: there's certainly a method of that madness where you have
22:20
Speaker 1: a young quarterback coming in. You've got to think that
22:25
Speaker 1: that's a major reason for keeping that together and for
22:28
Speaker 1: having that continuity. I could not agree more. All right,
22:31
Speaker 1: everyone asked Trevor Lawrence speaking with him, A married man
22:36
Speaker 1: got married this past weekend to his lovely wife Marissa,
22:40
Speaker 1: And if you don't follow, you watch it live on Lauren.
22:43
Speaker 1: Was there an okay? Rude? Right? John turned it down.
22:50
Speaker 1: I thought for sure I'd be on the time. John
22:52
Speaker 1: was busy. He couldn't make it anyway. If you want
22:56
Speaker 1: to see great content, follow his wife on Instagram. She
22:59
Speaker 1: posts all the wet picks. You get all the details
23:01
Speaker 1: that way. Trevor posts very little, which I think none
23:04
Speaker 1: of us are surprised by. He's a guys guy. Yeah,
23:07
Speaker 1: you don't have time for Instagram. Marissa does well. The
23:11
Speaker 1: huge takeaway, I think everybody's sort of as Jaguars. Twitter
23:15
Speaker 1: bought them the toaster, awesome, smart and screen. I mean
23:21
Speaker 1: that's fantastic. There's and as much as you know JP,
23:27
Speaker 1: I mean JP is not as all the I'm the
23:29
Speaker 1: old man, so I can see here. As as as social media,
23:31
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the word, you know. But for all
23:34
Speaker 1: the weirdness and sometimes negative things the social media brain, Uh,
23:43
Speaker 1: this is the sort of thing that was that social
23:45
Speaker 1: media would never happen. Uh, we're living in in an
23:49
Speaker 1: incredibly strange interactive time or something like this could happen
23:52
Speaker 1: for whatever Jaguars Twitter specifically Twitter in general. Uh, for
24:00
Speaker 1: ore toxic it can be. Sometimes this is an example
24:03
Speaker 1: of how it's absolutely wonderful. So I guess they got
24:05
Speaker 1: a toaster, so they got a vacuum cleaner, and then
24:07
Speaker 1: the rest goes to a charity of Trevor Lawrence's choice. Yeah,
24:11
Speaker 1: I think, which is pretty cool. Man's seven Yeah, it
24:16
Speaker 1: raised over As of twelve hours ago, they were over
24:19
Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars. And it couldn't be more fun. Yeah,
24:24
Speaker 1: that's awesome. What does a toaster not do? I guess it?
24:28
Speaker 1: Better do everything? Of course, this will be in his
24:32
Speaker 1: lovely home, and better pull the toast out and do
24:34
Speaker 1: it better. Butter butter it with butter jelly after the
24:39
Speaker 1: fact too, it would be walking my dog. Yes, overall
24:46
Speaker 1: very cool and congrats to the newly wed. Congratulations, very
24:49
Speaker 1: very cool. If he shows up here, I mean we
24:51
Speaker 1: might you know now, we're just congratulating to be a
24:55
Speaker 1: good guy. That would be a story. Do they take
24:57
Speaker 1: the toaster back if if he's not? Oh my gosh,
25:00
Speaker 1: the audacity and drama go on. John, Okay, Uh, mine's
25:05
Speaker 1: not as fun, but I'm not as fun as Ashland.
25:09
Speaker 1: That's a fact, makes sense. Uh. Second year players always
25:13
Speaker 1: take a big jump, or they should take sometimes, and
25:17
Speaker 1: this is a big time for that because it's the
25:20
Speaker 1: off season where they usually get a chance to take
25:22
Speaker 1: that big jump. So even though the off season really
25:24
Speaker 1: hasn't begune and we don't know what it's gonna look, like,
25:27
Speaker 1: who do we believe we'll take the biggest such second
25:32
Speaker 1: year jump, Slynn, Who do you? And I'll be the
25:35
Speaker 1: old interviewer where I'll rephrase the question what second year player,
25:41
Speaker 1: meaning somebody who was a rookie last year slim would
25:44
Speaker 1: would improve the most this year. Could be James Robinson,
25:49
Speaker 1: could be any any of the rookies last year? Would
25:52
Speaker 1: you like to list them all? I'm gonna go Caleb
25:57
Speaker 1: and Jason. I'm going to go even further to say
26:00
Speaker 1: I think he has to make a jump. I think
26:02
Speaker 1: this was a guy that was very hyped up after
26:05
Speaker 1: we drafted him. In an overall, I think a lot
26:08
Speaker 1: of to do with Josh Allen and how he played
26:09
Speaker 1: last year, but I would like to see Calebon, especially
26:12
Speaker 1: if they go to a three four hybrid kind of
26:15
Speaker 1: back in three four right after Rid. I don't think
26:27
Speaker 1: I expect Calebon Chason to make a huge jump this year.
26:31
Speaker 1: And I think he has to give me a leavisca
26:34
Speaker 1: tion al. And you know, I know he's banged up
26:36
Speaker 1: a bunch last year and was in college too. That
26:38
Speaker 1: was kind of his thing. He was beat up a
26:40
Speaker 1: little bit, but that's just the way he plays. He's
26:43
Speaker 1: a big body receiver, takes a lot of hits, doesn't
26:48
Speaker 1: hit the ground a lot, by the way when he
26:49
Speaker 1: takes those hits. So maybe this offseason. He got a
26:54
Speaker 1: taste of it last year in his rookie year. How
26:56
Speaker 1: physical the game is here in the NFL level, the
27:00
Speaker 1: offseason priorities for him to keep his body in great
27:04
Speaker 1: shape and all that, I think is is big to
27:06
Speaker 1: really have an idea. So he didn't have that last
27:09
Speaker 1: off season, and obviously they didn't have anything last off season.
27:12
Speaker 1: He was a rookie anyway, So now he's had a
27:15
Speaker 1: season of it. He has the off season to build
27:17
Speaker 1: up and get ready. Uh, let's see if he's on
27:20
Speaker 1: the field, if anybody's on the field, um in a
27:22
Speaker 1: team capacity this year, I think that would help him some.
27:25
Speaker 1: But it's more for me with him about the physical
27:29
Speaker 1: part of the game. Can he get through the rigors
27:32
Speaker 1: of a seven team game schedule now in the NFL,
27:36
Speaker 1: because that was a big question for him coming in.
27:37
Speaker 1: So I think for him it'll be big this year.
27:40
Speaker 1: I agree with you, I think it's gonna be Sinalt.
27:45
Speaker 1: I will speak to Schlanz in that Chason does need
27:49
Speaker 1: the jump and he also needs the off season the
27:56
Speaker 1: same thing, because that him in the x is and
28:00
Speaker 1: os on the field, how it works, it looks, how
28:03
Speaker 1: it feels technically all that. Yeah, I didn't have any
28:06
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, eight or nine weeks or the four
28:10
Speaker 1: weeks of just not being able to be on the
28:13
Speaker 1: field with his hand in the ground. However they're going
28:15
Speaker 1: to use him, Well, that wouldn't be three or four right,
28:19
Speaker 1: I thought just said him back last year. Um, for
28:24
Speaker 1: the purpose of this, since you guys both discussed those players, uh,
28:28
Speaker 1: c J. Henderson needs to to I mean, yeah, if
28:34
Speaker 1: he's good, if he's what he's supposed to be, their
28:39
Speaker 1: corners are pretty good. If he's the inconsistent version we
28:45
Speaker 1: saw at times last year, If he's not the number
28:49
Speaker 1: nine overall pick in the draft, then all of a sudden,
28:52
Speaker 1: the secondary looks and feels a lot different. I think
28:55
Speaker 1: your confidence in the secondary, if you knew that he
28:59
Speaker 1: was going to play to the level that he played
29:01
Speaker 1: against the Colts in Week one and was number nine pick,
29:05
Speaker 1: I think you'd be sitting there saying, you know what,
29:07
Speaker 1: maybe one more piece at safety and I really love
29:12
Speaker 1: this secondary. Not knowing about c J. I think he's
29:16
Speaker 1: the Lynch Penzel to speak. I think he's the guy
29:18
Speaker 1: that if if if he's good, they're good. If if
29:23
Speaker 1: he's not, then I think they have some work to
29:25
Speaker 1: do next offseason. I think he's gonna be good. Yeah,
29:30
Speaker 1: and that was pre injury, coming off a big injury,
29:32
Speaker 1: but you know, Shaquille Griffin is going to be the
29:34
Speaker 1: lockdown on one side. You're not worried about that, So
29:38
Speaker 1: all your questions are with c J. Henderson at first.
29:41
Speaker 1: I always I always felt like there was so much
29:44
Speaker 1: pressure on c. J. Henderson, almost too much because look
29:47
Speaker 1: at look at the group he was with, but Trey
29:49
Speaker 1: Herndon and Sydney Jones and it was all right, well,
29:51
Speaker 1: c J, you got to carry all of this. Now
29:54
Speaker 1: is Shaquille Griffin on the other side, it's got to
29:56
Speaker 1: be a weight off his shoulders. To have a guy
29:58
Speaker 1: like that should should be. I think part of how
30:02
Speaker 1: he handles that I think was interesting too. Above the shoulders, right.
30:06
Speaker 1: I know he's banged up and has some things going on,
30:08
Speaker 1: but the circumstances around him were not ideal, not at all.
30:12
Speaker 1: But when are they ideal? It doesn't. I mean, that's
30:15
Speaker 1: it's life, you know, I mean sometimes you have to
30:17
Speaker 1: battle through and I think that part of the game
30:20
Speaker 1: for him, I think will be key moving forward. Can
30:23
Speaker 1: he handle some adversity around him and how does he
30:25
Speaker 1: respond to some of that because there was plenty of
30:27
Speaker 1: adversity last year on those TU talk about a rookie year,
30:30
Speaker 1: I think that would be interesting for a lot of
30:32
Speaker 1: players ain't and Cam Robinson falls into that little bit.
30:36
Speaker 1: There's a lot of players that I'll be interested this
30:38
Speaker 1: year to see now that things are going in in
30:45
Speaker 1: a different direction last year with one in fifteen, even
30:49
Speaker 1: at the start of the year, you wondered sort of,
30:52
Speaker 1: you know, if if everybody was in lock Steton with
30:56
Speaker 1: all the COVID stuff and with the you know, they
31:00
Speaker 1: brought everybody back after six and ten, They're never it
31:06
Speaker 1: never felt new, It never felt like there was energy.
31:09
Speaker 1: Um So, now that things are going in a different
31:14
Speaker 1: direction and it feels like everybody knows what they're supposed
31:17
Speaker 1: to buy into, how much will that help some of
31:20
Speaker 1: the players who were inconsistent. How much will it help
31:23
Speaker 1: guys who uh weren't quite where you hope they would
31:28
Speaker 1: be at. I think you'll see some guys improve because
31:30
Speaker 1: everything around them is improving, there can be that sort
31:33
Speaker 1: of snowball effect, and I wonder if guys like c
31:36
Speaker 1: J and Cam won't benefit from that as well. For sure?
31:40
Speaker 1: What you got? Okay, Well, you mentioned earlier that Trevor
31:43
Speaker 1: Lawrence is not a big Instagram guy, but I know
31:46
Speaker 1: one guy who is, Gardner Minshew. The second is a
31:50
Speaker 1: big Instagram guy. He put out some photos I think
31:54
Speaker 1: over the weekend with a brand new, well an updated
31:58
Speaker 1: mullet haircut. So my question, and everyone asks, is would
32:03
Speaker 1: you ever consider a mullet haircut? John? Uh, Well, I
32:08
Speaker 1: lived through the days when mullet was a thing, and
32:16
Speaker 1: I'm from where mullet is still a thing, but I
32:19
Speaker 1: did not. I went ponytail five the inaugural season, I
32:26
Speaker 1: celebrated with a ponytail, So that's as close as I
32:30
Speaker 1: got to a mullet. I can't pull them allet off, Schlynn.
32:35
Speaker 1: I could pull them all at off. My hair might
32:36
Speaker 1: even look like a mullet this morning, it's an off
32:39
Speaker 1: camera day. Lord knows, what you're getting does not look
32:42
Speaker 1: anything closed now to a mullet. In the nineties, when
32:47
Speaker 1: I started out the paper mullet was was more common
32:53
Speaker 1: than not in that era. It was was it a
32:58
Speaker 1: tight in front or in the front, party in the back? Right?
33:02
Speaker 1: That was sort of the uh. And my cohort, Pete Prisco,
33:06
Speaker 1: almost had a mullet. It wasn't quite a mullet, but
33:10
Speaker 1: it was. It was a business in front, long in
33:13
Speaker 1: the back. It was. There are photos high school. I
33:18
Speaker 1: had long hair down but we couldn't have it passed
33:21
Speaker 1: our collar because of school rule. It was a public
33:23
Speaker 1: school rules and you can only have it down to there.
33:25
Speaker 1: So I would have gone longer. But it was very thick.
33:27
Speaker 1: And but I never thought about, you know, business in
33:31
Speaker 1: the front, party in the back. I was just party everywhere.
33:33
Speaker 1: Business in the front, party in the back. Maybe one
33:35
Speaker 1: of the best lines, right, but you know there was
33:40
Speaker 1: I'm from that air from right. There's that's just been.
33:45
Speaker 1: That's you know certain places out there, and this is
33:48
Speaker 1: what it is. So I guess the answer to the
33:49
Speaker 1: question for you is would consider no? No, No, I
33:53
Speaker 1: would not. You would not, I'm not. I'm I would.
33:57
Speaker 1: I can't now I can't do much now we just
34:00
Speaker 1: what hap what it is. I've kind of given up
34:03
Speaker 1: the battle. It's over. The war is over in terms
34:06
Speaker 1: of hair. Interesting tidbits is Gardner posted on his Instagram
34:10
Speaker 1: asking who can handle this mullets and apparently he had
34:14
Speaker 1: hundreds of hairdressers respond pick me, pick me to cut
34:18
Speaker 1: your hair, and he went with a guy that cuts
34:21
Speaker 1: a lot of the Jaguar staff haircuts in Jacksonville Beach.
34:26
Speaker 1: So we had the trust of like the equipment guys
34:28
Speaker 1: and the trainers went that route. And now look at
34:31
Speaker 1: him and he was like leaned up against like some
34:34
Speaker 1: fence post open. It's all he needs now is like
34:38
Speaker 1: a country music album like Terry Bradshaw or something. It
34:42
Speaker 1: was something complete, the whole of something. Yeah, it's something. Yeah,
34:47
Speaker 1: it's something, all right, all right? And what better way
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